Will the Libs stick with Abbott towards Election Oblivion?
There is a remarkable unhinging taking place in the Liberal Party right now and it extends to its fractious relationship with the Nationals.
Despite the Tony Abbott’s public bravado, cracks are appearing with the ranks of the LNP and spilling over into the public domain as the reality sinks in that the LNP is heading for an electoral annihilation sometime within the next 18 months.
Although the date is yet to be set, consistent polling shows that Labor would romp home if an election were to be held anytime during the past 14 months. The writing’s on the wall for the Abbott government and it’s not going to be pretty.
Despite promising to “end the age of entitlement” and bring the budget back to surplus within its first term of office and every year thereafter, the Abbott government has presided over a period of a burgeoning budget deficit with no end in side for what Treasury calls “decades to come.”
By almost any measure this government has been a failure of unprecedented scale. Pre-election promises not to slash funding for the ABC, SBS, health and education were dumped as soon as they came into power with a fervent disregard towards the public outrage that followed.
The manufacturing industry has collapsed and Abbott’s self-proclaimed title to be “The Infrastructure PM” has seen him preside over a falling investment in infrastructure spending.
Some within the ranks of the born-to-rule mob now find themselves in the unenviable position of considering their respective futures beyond the next election with an impatient public becoming increasingly disillusioned over the Abbott government’s backward position on issues from marriage equality and renewable energy.
Recently, Joe Hockey declared that the Liberal Party “could not be bought” presumably as it has already been sold to the mining industry on a no returns no refund basis.
Nationals Leader Barnaby Joyce has been well and truly shafted by the Libs and is now just a walking talking shell of man.
The Bronwyn Bishop scandal has taken a life of its own, so much so that she has becoming a living caricature of the arrogance and born to rule mentality that so accurately characterises the Liberal psyche.
Abbott hoped to pin his hopes on issues of national security and fear mongering over terrorists and asylum seekers but even then, the public can only be bludgeoned over the head with that hysterical rhetoric so many times before it just becomes blasé.
No, it’s all over for Tony Abbott, and the Libs are now beginning to realise they missed the opportunity to oust him when the chance arose earlier in the year.
The question remains as to whether they’ll have the gumption to come close to a challenge again, but with Labor showing no signs of losing its election winning lead, many within the LNP must be becoming increasingly anxious.
theguttertrash.com 
They seem determined to stick with him.
He deserves to face the public and suffer a humiliating defeat for his arrogant, hubristic, ideological governing circus.
The ALP’s greatest weapon is PM Abbott.
“The ALP’s greatest weapon is PM Abbott.”
This is true. But changing the leader will not change the outcome of the election. And the Libs are not quite as mercenary as ALP faction bosses. (This was a funny comment from last round of leadership ructions.)
On the other hand the ALP would probably benefit from changing leader. In fact Shorten is the Libs’ last best hope. Nothing else will save them.
True.
“The ALP’s greatest weapon is PM Abbott”
“In fact Shorten is the Libs’ last best hope. Nothing else will save them.”
Then I suggest both “leaders” remain where they are …
That picture of Bishop is grating. In fact, Bishop is grating.
toilet’s mates (TM), many of whom are wildly conservative, xenophobic & generally soft targets for an AbbottCorp government, are fucking riled by the ongoing uncovering of The Speaker’s largesse; not to mention the hypocritical response of her bitch Abbott towards it.
An interesting barometer.
Abbott is fucked. It’s just a question of how soon (which is up to him I suppose, whenever he grows a big enough pair to call the election & face his overdue reckoning).
… whenever he grows a big enough pair to call the election …
Well no-one in the Libs seem to have any nads … other-wise there would be a move … but of course The mad Abbott has bullied and angered and shoved and pushed and disrespected himself into a corner …
And the Libs don’t want to be accused of doing what they crucified the ALP for Rudd/Gillard/Rudd …
What goes around comes around …
And the country is slowly grinding to a halt under this government …
“And the Libs don’t want to be accused of doing what they crucified the ALP for Rudd/Gillard/Rudd … ”
And therein lies the crux of the matter.
I also think the ALP is gun shy, not pulling the trigger on Shorten, for similarly obvious reasons.
“What goes around comes around … ”
The Mill grinds slowly… 😉
“And the country is slowly grinding to a halt under this government …”
But it grinds things into dust…
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jul/26/bill-shorten-has-used-the-alp-conference-to-claw-back-some-authority
“A few months ago Tony Abbott was sure he had Bill Shorten’s measure.
The Labor leader’s confidence was ebbing by the day and huge challenges loomed – his appearance “in the dock” at the royal commission into trade union corruption, the ugly reminders in the ABC’s Killing Season and his party’s national conference which was already shaping as a treacherous Labor family outing.
The shock victory of the British conservatives had cemented the Australian Coalition’s certainly that a similar strategy would see off Shorten’s Labor despite Abbott’s disastrous first year – an attack focussed on a weak leader and Labor’s alleged incompetence and predilection for taxing the rich and helping the very poor and ignoring the hard-working middle.”
Shorten is the Libs’ last best hope.
Because of course the libs/ltdnews dirt machine wouldn’t dare run a #getalbo smear campaign, would they ❓
The Labor leader’s confidence was ebbing by the day a so said the oracles of truthiness in our media landscape. The same muppets who called “it’s on” for three fucken years of rudds dirty backstabbing.
Shortens had everything but the kitchen sink tossed at him after being dripped through the septic lens oif murdors minions, and he’s still standing, and his party is winning. The kitchen sink is coming, but, if the people really take any note by then after this latest #turd reveal// who knows.
Meanwhile, yabots as unpopular as he is with the benefit of incumbency, a first term grubmint, and daily applications of lipstick on the pig. All of yabots unpopularity is earned and owned by him alone, whereas Shortens is the result of smear, fear and having to play down in the muck with the most ruthless, negative, poisonous PM the cuntry has ever known (and hopefully ever will know) and supported and guided by a media organisation that has been exposed in England for the depths of depravity it will sink to enabling and coaxing him along.
So reflect on that next time some numpty complains about “a pox on both their houses”
dunny””The ALP`s greatest weapon is PM Abbott””#agree, and equally true,
#the teabags greatest weapon is blib
#like dunnys mates, bagz neighbors that were previously `pliable` to the other mobs rhetoric, until the knifing, one which did some of the volunteering, door-knocking or handing out the `how-to`vote cards at various times under beazley, went greenz and won`t return, for knifing kevin07, working for them for 12-years to get`em into power, for them only to flush it down the gurgler was too much.
#For the other two, they dumped the team after knifing joolya, which was too much for them, one went greenz, probably for good too, the other won`t support`em while blib and other knifers are still around.
#l reckon the next election will be decided on who is `hated` least, and it is interesting that some of the most hurt are the biggest `haters` and were previous `lovers`.
guardian””Shorten, like Abbott, remains deeply unpopular. Neither is seen as exciting or authentic.
Abbott says the line of the day three times to make sure we`ve heard it.
Shorten often seems to forget what it is.””via-dunny
#yaaaaaaaaaaaaay.blib #way.to.go.blib
tr””pox on both their houses””
#The ””pox on both their houses”” exists, BECAUSE both `teams` spread their own brand of `pox` thru-out their own `house`, don`t blame observers for noticing.
ls there `anything` the teabags won`t lie about.
https://theconversation.com/factcheck-does-coal-fired-power-cost-79-kwh-and-wind-power-1502-kwh-44956
(mediawatch got`em too armchair)
l was expecting some solid reporting from `somebody` on their return from the team-conference. #silly.me
ls there `anything` the teabags won`t lie about.
No.
The problem is, the media help them and perpetuate their lies. They are muppets of the regime now, yabot and his cronies have stifled and stacked theirabc into irrelevance.
Fran Kelly was recently pushing the libs line for Robb that the ChAFTA agreement protected Australian jobs. And got busted.
The CFMEU were correct. yabot has sold us out.
https://theconversation.com/factcheck-could-foreign-workers-be-paid-less-under-the-china-australia-fta-44898
Thanks to youtube, I didn’t have to watch masterchef last night
But, I think the ad itself is misleading. They reckon yabot stuffed up. I disagree, I think he got exactly what he wanted. Death to my Hometown!
“Send the Robber Barons straight to Hell”
l was expecting some solid reporting from `somebody`
fer u teamnothin’
Baptism by Conference: a factionless account by a long time Labor member of what it’s like to attend National Conference.
https://thelab.laborherald.com.au/party-on/baptism-by-conference-a-factionless-account-of-national-conference/
“Because of course the libs/ltdnews dirt machine wouldn’t dare run a #getalbo smear campaign, would they “
Albo will be just fine provided he stays away from the local knock shops.
Shifty is a bald-faced liar with a very limited understanding of corrupt practices. He stands for absolutely nothing apart from his own vaulting ambition. Even so, he should beat Abbott handily. However, with any other leader Labor would be unassailable. With Shifty in charge Labor may yet prove to be unsaleable.
Shifty is a bald-faced liar with a very limited understanding of corrupt practices.
Perhaps you could show examples of these “corrupt practices” because the $90million #turd seems to have missed them. yabot would be most interested in your insight 😉
lolz, theoz at peak stupid. The heading is modified, but is actually representative of the article. lolz
In fact Tom R, the TURC laid out Shorten’s corrupt practices for all to see. Obviously ALP blind-monkey trolls will not see: objectivity is not your strong point.
the TURC laid out Shorten’s corrupt practices for all to see.
And they exposed ……….. best practices being achieved in a collegiate manner.
Otherwise wouldn’t we see the courts being dragged in if something illegal was going on?
The latest essential poll makes interesting reading, with the Libs taking another body blow…
Click to access essential_report_150728.pdf
If this keeps up reb, we won’t be having an election for years
Most people I know didn’t notice much (if any) difference with or without the carbon tax …
And its not deliberate deception – it plain and stupid lying …
Its like that other crap term “quantitative easing” … ie printing money … with no value!
it plain and stupid lying …
That gets rinsed and repeated in the media far more than it is ever corrected, or even highlighted as bullshit
NewsCorpse is at it again …
http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australias-live-export-trade-deal-with-china-slammed-but-not-bad-for-everybody/story-e6frflo9-1227460626208
Of course there’s no mention of our skills and qualification requirements not only nationally but by each state … Nationally Recognised Training and
… not to mention WH&S legislation and regulations and codes of practice … all of which incorporate Aust/NZ Standards … and trade licencing …
Or does the ChAFTA negate all that?
Not sure they should have put the photo of Mr Bennetto at the bottom of the article …
And anything that Andrew Robb is, is, is, involved in os usually misinformed and dodgy … not the brightest bulb on the christmas tree!
…The latest essential poll makes interesting reading, with the Libs taking another body blow…
That was interesting reb, especially the penalty rates issue not supported by most people. So it seems a lot of these things get a big push from a very vocal minority [Libs, IPA, Business]. The trumpet the airwaves with the rubbish to try and change public opinion.
…There was strong majority support for forcing multinational companies to pay a minimum tax rate on Australian earnings (79%), increasing income tax rate for high earners (63%) and removing superannuation tax concessions for high earners (59%). There was strong majority opposition to increasing the GST (65%)…
GST also not supported by voters, but guess what is getting presented as the only option?
Abbott thinks he’s been real clever to get baird who is more popular to present the scare campaign so he can’t be accused of breaking yet another promise.
The libs really are a piece of work!
There’s nowhere too low for them to go, they’ve shown it time and time again.
And the usual deadbeat Lefties cheer for a return to the White Australia Policy
http://dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/chafta/fact-sheets/Pages/chafta-myths-versus-realities.aspx
And the usual deadbeat Lefties cheer for a return to the White Australia Policy
WTF are you snorting?
And the usual deadbeat Lefties cheer for a return to the White Australia Policy
It never left.
You only have to see the reclaim australia mob protesting in the streets along with current MP’s supporting them [christensen] and abbott who stands out by saying nothing at all in tact approval. Our muslim abuse and vilification, the AS scare campaigns tell us all that the white australia policy and xenophobic hatred has never left us. We are a very racist country, even the first peoples are vilified, look at the outright public racism directed at adam goodes by disgusting football ‘fans’
POWER CORRUPTS:
How network companies lined their pockets and drove electricity prices through the roof
https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2014/july/1404136800/jess-hill/power-corrupts?utm_source=Today&utm_campaign=20c69b5ebf-Today_28_July_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_673b6b002d-20c69b5ebf-302918369
In the past few years, our electricity prices have doubled. While the media has feasted on the likes of pink batts, Peter Slipper and Craig Thomson, the astonishing story behind these price hikes has been all but ignored. And yet, it may be one of the greatest rorts in Australia’s history.
https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2014/july/1404136800/jess-hill/power-corrupts?utm_source=Today&utm_campaign=20c69b5ebf-Today_28_July_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_673b6b002d-20c69b5ebf-302918369
…Since 2009, the electricity networks that own and manage our “poles and wires” have quietly spent $45 billion on the most expensive project this country has ever seen. ..
…For a Coalition intent on destroying the carbon tax, the price hikes have been a gift – “proof” that the carbon tax is as ruinous as they predicted. Chris Dunstan, from the Institute for Sustainable Futures, thinks that what the networks have done over the past five years may actually be the secret to Tony Abbott’s success. “If electricity prices hadn’t doubled,” he says, “the carbon tax would not have been anything like the issue it was…
Wow TB, that ltdnews article is trying to defend chafta with an already debunked line
“it is a myth that companies will have unrestricted access to Chinese workers for major projects,”
Keep up rupe, that was exposed as bullshit days ago. Reprinting it just reaffirms peoples belief that you are ideologically driven to lie.
Hours of fun for the whole family who can’t rort taxpayers
http://bronnycopter.com/
Reprinting it just reaffirms peoples belief that you are ideologically driven to lie.
Too funny coming from someone who said the Coalition abolished funding to the car industry when funding was legislated till 2020.
LOOK OVER THERE!
Border farce
The absurd double standard behind the government’s “sovereignty” message
https://www.themonthly.com.au/blog/richard-king/2015/10/2015/1436495903/border-farce
…It is the special achievement of the Abbott government to have raised this plonking double standard to the level of a bad opera, to have brought together in a single spectacle the insistent march of globalisation with the crashing notes of nationalism…
…While the trade talks are too important for the public to know about, the rhetoric of betrayal and banishment, of Them and Us, is given the megaphone treatment…
It is the special achievement of the australian public to be so stupid and so shitscared that they can’t see they are being led through the nose to the ballot box by ruthless politicans.
hehe
Bronwyn Bishop ‘had to attend secret hearings’ on Mirabella wedding trip
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jul/28/bronwyn-bishop-under-pressure-over-expense-claim-for-mirabella-wedding
…Speaker’s office says she had to hold anonymous hearings of the balancing work and family inquiry in the area that weekend and could not give further details of what business she used to justify claiming expenses…
…A spokesman for Bishop’s office said that on the weekend in question she had to meet people in the area on an anonymous basis because they did not want to attend public hearings of the inquiry. When asked how many people Bishop met and what date the spokesman said he was not going to go into the details of Bishop’s diary.
Asked what rule that came under the spokesman said 3.25 in the travel allowance determination which says: “The chair of a parliamentary committee shall be paid travelling allowance in respect of each overnight stay in a place other than his or her home base when travelling on Parliamentary Committee business.”
Bishop did not claim travel allowance on the weekend, just her flights and a taxi…
…Labor’s spokeswoman for education and early childhood, Kate Ellis, was also on the committee and said if there was an official committee reason for Bishop to be in Albury that weekend then documentation would exist…
😉
Adam Goodes: why his critics’ arguments just don’t stack up
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/jul/28/adam-goodes-why-his-critics-arguments-just-dont-stack-up
Yep Bronnie needs to go. What a disgrace.
“We’re Not Racist” Say Fans Who Only Boo Black Player:
http://www.theshovel.com.au/2015/07/28/were-not-racist-say-fans-who-only-boo-black-player/
…“It’s got absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he doesn’t play the role I’ve decided I’m comfortable with an Aboriginal man playing, and nothing to do with the fact that he needs to just pull in his head a bit and be thankful for everything this country and this sport has given him. It’s because he stages for free kicks,” another said.
But one fan said it wasn’t just Adam Goodes who is booed, claiming booing was part of the game. “I’ll boo a player for a quarter or so if he’s hit another player, or for a lifetime if he’s hit a nerve”…
😆
Too funny coming from someone who said the Coalition abolished funding to the car industry
Link!
hey blubbers, l wouldn`t go putting too much faith in that dfat link ya`dropped, the tpp will probably shoot to shit any of the weak dfat (non)protections anyway, keep in mind too, many 457-slaves are extorted at the off-shore end, (even if the Aust end is doing the correct thing) anyway.
Speaker’s office says she had to hold anonymous hearings
Secret bronnie business?
Goodes has been booed and it is shameful, a win for the rednecks. Goodes has been an amazingly talented player and a real role model for indigenous people. He is intelligent, thoughtful and articulate.
If he decided to enter politics, he would represent far more than a footballer parachuted in.
The worst booing offenders are West Coast and Hawthorn.
Anti indigenous racism is rife in WA and these types would be well represented in the Eagles membership, while Hawthorn supporters reflect the demographics of Melbourne’s eastern suburbs – middle class bigots.
hey blubbers
So throw the towel in, is that your solution?
Reprinting it just reaffirms peoples belief that you are ideologically driven to lie.
And I’ll note that nil prefers to make shit up rather than face the fact that his oracle of information is a habitual liar that doesn’t even try to hide the fact anymore.
Lots of Labor people believe the Coalition cut all funding to the car industry. Here is another leftie journalist telling this falsehood
https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2015/july/1435672800/richard-denniss/clowns-and-treasurers
Rather than help the manufacturing industry recover as the exchange rate finally began to fall, it decided that the end of the mining boom was the right time to end all assistance to the car industry. Ford and Holden will soon leave Australia once and for all.
The journalist, Richard Denniss could not be bothered to check the facts. I have seen the lie that the Coalition cut all funding to the car industry many times.
…Anti indigenous racism is rife in WA and these types would be well represented in the Eagles membership, while Hawthorn supporters reflect the demographics of Melbourne’s eastern suburbs – middle class bigots…
I find it so very sad that a person with goodes sporting credentials can be treated that way.
It seems to have defeated him, he looks depressed and weary. As big, tough and brave as he is in fighting racism, it appears to have affected him greatly. I guess that’s how racism works though. Yes, it is a disgrace and I think it’s taken way too long for the AFL to denounce it.
tr””’So throw the towel in, is that your solution?””
#Both `teams` have freely gifted 457-slaves to their biz-buddies
#l wouldn`t have done this in the first place, as it fcuks the job-market
#another teabag and teabag-lite misadventure
#Both `teams` have freely gifted 457-slaves to their biz-buddies
Labor have only done it with massive projects, and with many strings attached. Most specifically, when the project can show it cannot source the jobs locally. Trying to link it with what is happening now is laughable.
Yes, it is a disgrace and I think it’s taken way too long for the AFL to denounce it.
Again, the AFL is acting after the fact and only because of public outcry. The AFL are gutless and toadying to their constituents, the racist boofheads who fill their seats.
They forget the number of non racist boofheads who go or who would go if not for the other contingent.
They showed with the gay issue and the drugs in sport that their preference is to remain at arms length and hope it either sorts itself out, or goes away with time. They say the nice words, but their actions prove their resistance and/or support of the status quo. The most obvious being their complicity with essendon over their drug cheating fiasco. And the most depressing part of that was when the Hawkes player recently got reprimanded for quite rightly reminding the essendon players of their cheating past. That is wrong on so many levels
The secrecy around the libs is astounding. bronnie can’t tell us about her official business cos it’s “secret” official business, and yabot STILL cannot prove he isn’t a pom. And their favourite “advisors” are still birthers
And how long will the libs try and keep us in last century instead of embracing the future, like the industry itself seems to be doing
“The companies, led by AGL and Energy Australia, have announced that they will close their fleet by 2050, one by one. And they won’t be building other ones to replace them, so we have to deal with that.”
http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2015/07/29/coal-miners-back-labors-renewable-energy-plan/
Ignoring the inanity of measuring success or otherwise of a policy by counting coloured cartons in the gutter, this shows just how desperate tobaccy companies are to get rid of this policy
Australia’s legal bill for defending its cigarette plain packaging legislation is set to hit $50 million as it battles to contain a case brought by tobacco giant Philip Morris before a tribunal in Singapore.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-faces-50m-legal-bill-in-cigarette-plain-packaging-fight-with-philip-morris-20150728-gim4xo.html#ixzz3hEBD1swm
one wonders though, considering the IPA’s stance against hte policy, and the dollars received by the libs from said baccy companies, just how much their heart is in this, and just how much of a case they will actually launch.
But, a loss here in the shadow of the TPP and other “free” trade deals and the ISDS clauses written within might make life even more politically dangerous for them.
This is criminal, yet it the way thisgrubmint wants us to go
The maker of the Forester SUV has won over U.S. drivers with its socially responsible image. Another key to success: Its supply chain relies on hundreds of migrant workers who are far cheaper to employ than Japanese laborers.
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/japan-subaru/
And yet, we still managed to compete successfully with a small grubmint subsidy in place of the tariffs and other Government assistance these other international companies rely on.
“The union has won Labor Party support for a special government agency to ensure income support and priority job placement for those displaced in the industry.
Rather than the dole, the union wants the maintenance of their existing annual wage rate, which is often $100,000 or more.
Coal industry workers want to ‘maintain their standard of living’ amid changes in the industry.
“We are talking about income support necessary to maintain their standard of living,” Mr Maher said.”
The CFMEU and its bludging workforce !
“And yet, we still managed to compete successfully with a small grubmint subsidy in place of the tariffs and other Government assistance these other international companies rely on.”
ROFLMAO !
You are just full of crap !
And yet, we still managed to compete successfully with a small grubmint subsidy in place of the tariffs
No we didn’t. Under Rudd/Gillard local sales went from 25% of the market in 2007 to only 10% in 2013. Nobody wanted to buy the crap.
The ACCC confirms $550 pa saving per household following abolishion of Carbon Tax
http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/accc-report-real-cost-of-carbon-tax-revealed-in-monitoring-report/story-e6frflo9-1227460824789
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/adam-goodes-considering-early-retirement-over-booing-saga-reports/story-fndv7pj3-1227461144803
Adam Goodes considering early retirement over booing saga: reports
It would be an absolute disgrace if Goodes retired now, if redneck bogans and bigots forced him out.
The AFL and football community needs to (belatedly) step up on this-
• Every club president, coach and captain to sign a joint statement condemning the behavioiur
• Every cheer club to have a banner this weekend supporting indigenous players, denouncing the booing
• Indigenous players encouraged to perform “the war dance”
• Ground cameras to show people booing Goodes (shame them)
• People in the ground to call out “RACIST” at those that boo Goodes
“It would be an absolute disgrace if Goodes retired now, if redneck bogans and bigots forced him out. ”
I agree………..!
Someone should just say to them if you want to Boo him then stand up and do it and be proud of yourself knowing that he regards your actions as racial and if you choose to remain seated those around you should point you out and perhaps pass you a white hood to wear rather than have you remain seated to hide amongst those that choose not to boo.
The CFMEU and its bludging workforce !
You forgot to quote this bit 😉
“That’s how they did it in Germany
#justsayin’
Nobody wanted to buy the crap.
Cherry picking figures is what denialist do I note. It’s true our car industry has become the most open in the world. Counting figures like that do note indicate it is not viable, just that we are a very diverse market. Holden was still one of the top sellers in their categories. And considering their were plans for new models into the future, it is highly likely those numbers would have gone back up, given time, and given Government support. They got neither.
You still haven’t provided your link for your claim. That would be because my claim has always been that they “threatened” to take the subsidies away. And hockey made it clear from his meltdown in question time that they would.
Someone should just say to them if you want to Boo him then stand up and do it and be proud of yourself
Lets hope chopper stays around for a while hey
Labor were stuck with what they had because of the hung parliament, why is yabot holding onto her? Or is it the other way around?
Mark Kenny reckons Abbott has Bronwyn Bishop in his pocket. As usual with him, the official press gallery bunny of this blog, Kenny has it the wrong way around.
http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/07/the-wrong-way-around.html?m=1
http://www.pc.gov.au/inquiries/completed/automotive/preliminary-findings-report
Read that one wally. They reckoned removing the industry would have “negligible” impact. It also deliberately ignored that Mining was one of those industries that would be impacted. It was a report written for an outcome, as evidenced by its content and what it deliberately ignored.
The CFMEU and its bludging workforce !
Says the shiny arse who makes more than a miner shifting numbers on a computer to avoid paying tax …
And who’s never been to a remote mine* in his life and probably has trouble finding the keys to his car … let alone be able to climb onto a dragline …
*Dust, flies, isolation, limited facilities, 12 hour shifts, extremes of temperature (one instance -6° to 46° C depending on time of year), FIFO …
I see, so do TB and Tom R think it is a great idea to use taxpayer money to pay miners $100,000 a year (to maintain their lifestyle) when other people that become unemployed people get the dole?
Coughing up that amount of cash is just a rort for union mates.
The ACCC confirms $550 pa saving per household following abolishion of Carbon Tax
Ya’reckon … and how much has the government just paid polluters in tax payer money? To continue to pollute?
Lie, damned lies and statistics …
(And I did read the link)
“And who’s never been to a remote mine* in his life and probably has trouble finding the keys to his car … let alone be able to climb onto a dragline … ”
Well you obviously have not taken any notes over the years or have just relied on that elderly brain of yours and its fast fading retention skills.
I was for a period of 4 years the CFO of a medium gold and copper sized miner (a houseshold name with ops in WA, Vic, and Qld). I’ve been to plenty of mines open cut, alluvial and fines operations (yes even spooky underground ones ,………………….Boooooo!)
So do just fuck off !
I see, so do TB and Tom R think it is a great idea to use taxpayer money to pay miners $100,000 a year
Well I don’t … and have never said that …
I do believe that miners and their families need assistance to transform into new areas of work (most are highly skilled) … what a great idea it would be for renewable energy to be set up in the mining areas most affected? Solar and wind farms with manufacturing workshops near the towns … and wave/wind farms on the coast … FIFO is something miners and associated specialists are familiar with … this is a massive country covered in sun, with geothermal, wind and wave energy across the country … we have deserts just waiting to be turned into the food bowl of Asia … if Israel could do it in the 1950’s/60’s then surely we can do it now …
Trouble is, we need a government, or three, with vision for the future for our kids and grandkids … shutting businesses down to “save money” is all very well but with no new businesses being supported … ? (eg $4 billion assistance for negative gearing – non-productive … against $240 million for start up assistance – productive … something drastically wrong!)
The mining towns certainly need support to stay alive … and diversify.
I was for a period of 4 years the CFO of a medium gold and copper sized miner (a houseshold name with ops in WA, Vic, and Qld). I’ve been to plenty of mines open cut, alluvial and fines operations (yes even spooky underground ones ,………………….Boooooo!)
And shone yer arse in A/C offices no doubt … you certainly have no respect for the dirt diggers … but then you have no respect for anyone it seems …
Unfortunately for you I made a lifestyle choice and chose to be born … and I ain’t fucking off anywhere …
And I also have plenty of experience in the construction and property deverlopment industries specifically shopping centres, residential and as far as construction is concerned aluminium and glass (AKA Curtain Walls)
“… but then you have no respect for anyone it seems … ”
Certainly not a sponger like you
“Unfortunately for you I made a lifestyle choice……….”
Yeah retire early with insufficient funds meaning you can always fall back on Centrelink which you do.
Just sponge off the taxpayer and illegally download games and fantasy and whinge about “Robber Barons” whilst shouting hypocritical slogans like “I prefer to live in a Society not an Economy”
” … we have deserts just waiting to be turned into the food bowl of Asia … if Israel could do it in the 1950’s/60’s then surely we can do it now …
Trouble is, we need a government, or three, with vision for the future for our kids and grandkids …”
ZOMFG!
TB is scaper?!
“I do believe that miners and their families need assistance to transform into new areas of work (most are highly skilled)”
They have been paid enough over the years. They can now pay for their own training for a change just like white collar workers have been.
The game has now changed in favour of those in service industries (mainly white collar) that can now deliver services internationally via the various FTAs and its now their turn to reap the rewards.
If the mining workers have squandered their $ on consumption then too bad.
They priced themselves out of their jobs and they should have saved for a rainy day like sensible people do
Certainly not a sponger like you
Like I said …
They priced themselves out of their jobs and they should have saved for a rainy day like sensible people do
Ahhh … finally, a compliment aimed at me …
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
TB is scaper?!
No flies on me, mate! 😉
The mining towns certainly need support to stay alive … and diversify.
A focus of the discussion in the article was Victoria’s Latrobe Valley – which is certainly not a FIFO region.
The Latrobe Valley has had plenty of opportunity to diversify.
Paper manufacturing investment lost interest long before the dollar was strong – due to the level of industrial activity. There was simply no investment appetite for plant upgrade, because unions saw upgrade, overhaul, shut downs as an opportunity to advance their claims.
Then some wealthy types were looking at technology to reduce the emissions of brown coal to that of black, but even the testing plant was fraught with industrial problems.
There is an industrial culture in places like the Latrobe Valley that is killing the towns more effectively than the long term reduction in the operations of the power stations.
“Not since Deirdre Chambers turned up to dinner in Muriel’s Wedding have we seen such a coincidence.”
😆
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jul/29/the-dog-ate-bronwyn-bishops-travel-expenses-homework-twice?CMP=share_btn_tw
so do TB and Tom R think it is a great idea to use taxpayer money to pay miners $100,000 a year
No, I don’t. I think miners are far over paid now, and have made it very difficult for local manufacturers to compee. If anything, more money from mining should have been ploughed back into manufacturing, as they are the ones who trained and supplied the workforce for the miners to grab as they need.
No flies on me, mate!
😆
It sounds like the dog ate Bronwyn Bishop’s homework – twice.
She’s the grift that keeps on grifting
A fair bit in the press today about Bishop.
Presumably, duuuuh-Abbott has finally had the penny drop & decided that his allegiance to her, in the face of further exposure of her hubristic rorting of taxpayers, is increasingly untenable.
Julie Bishop has this morning stated, multiple times, that The Speaker is ‘considering her position’ (code for, about to be pushed).
http://www.news.com.au/national/politics/bronwyn-bishop-under-pressure-to-quit-as-malcolm-turnbull-takes-v-line-train-to-geelong/story-fns0jze1-1227461494870
Conroy takes the AFP refusal to investigate [stagnating in Finance] to the Law Enforcement Ombudsman
Turnbull rubbing it in.
http://www.afr.com/news/bronwyn-bishop-considering-her-position-20150729-gimlui
Mr Turnbull took to Twitter to show himself using public transport to travel from Melbourne to Geelong, the same journey Ms Bishop chose to take by helicopter for a Liberal Party fundraiser.
hoochie gucci fiorucci mama wants to pretend he’s a “man of the people”
Awkward that
Another “man of the people” in a spot of bother
Would Rudd take Public Transport?
Would Rudd take Public Transport?
WTF?
laborherald””’On the last day of conference, I caught a taxi in with a colleague.
The driver asked why I was going to the Melbourne Convention Centre when all that was happening over there was `bullshit.`
`They should be wearing buckets around their necks to catch all the bullshit they talk,` he said.””’via-tr””#ROFL
#yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.blib
How Uber Kapitalism and associated GREED killed the Olympic Games …
http://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/the-olympics-have-become-so-expensive-host-cities-are-baulking/story-fno61i58-1227461860713
One of the reasons …
I prefer to live in a society rather than survive in an economy!
limited-news”””the days of cities splurging billions on `white-elephant` stadiums and facilities were coming to an end.
It comes after the highly publicised Boston 2024 Olympics bid withdrew yesterday, almost six months after the United States Olympic Committee (USOC) selected it ahead of Los Angeles to be its candidate to host the Games in nine years.
Recently, Oslo (Norway), Krakow (Poland) and Stockholm (Sweden) also pulled out of the race to host the Winter Olympics in 2022.””’via-teebz
+
”””bidding for the right to host the Olympics because they are hoping to make an international political statement.
Cities like Boston do not need to make a political statement.
The public costs involved in the Boston bid attracted stern opposition from locals concerned the city could be left with a huge debt.
The Boston bid team claimed its budget for public funds would be just $4.5 billion to host the Games and another $6 billion on new roads and parks.”””’
#good on the locals for not letting themselves be stuck with huge public-debts for benefit of already mega-rich, #go.boston
#l said similar long ago on another post, nice to see the limited-news teabags catching up with reality, maybe one day, the earth will no-longer be flat.
Interesting heritage … hey?
Mmmm … and here’s me thinking that Goodes had apologised to the girl, once he knew her age … seems not …
I guess the point is that Goodes does know the age of the child by now … and still hasn’t talked to her … still he is just a footballer …
secrecy is this grubmint
on last nights late tv, l saw the smug odwyer teabag doing a lot of non-talking about having more-but-not-more women in team-teabag, l was wondering what this was a `look-over-there` for
so now we have finance-dept keeping secrets over bronny-copter, l guess the noise is trying to indicate that with too few women-teabags, we just can`t go getting rid of bronny, that`d be `sexist` (or some such shit)
…Another “man of the people” in a spot of bother…
Pyne has been extremely quiet lately, or I’ve been lucky and missed his media appearances.
so now we have finance-dept keeping secrets over bronny-copter,
More like dept. of finance secretary jane halton of ‘children overboard’ infamy doing her level best to cover it all up. There will be a lot of scrutiny on her handling of this issue.
She’s on record as stating [prior to finance getting handballed the brief from the IPA] that if bronny was a man, this wouldn’t even be an issue – that should rule her out, but public servants and government members can’t seem to recognise conflict of interest anymore.
Thanks to whomever it was who first linked me (here) to The Intercept; sincerely.
Tons of great shit to be had. unfound in contemporary media, and well worth discussion.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/28/dylan-roof-terrorist-animal-rights-activists-free-minks/
So fucking typical…and cnuts wonder why I rant about fearsquirting.
Transparent monopoly enthusiasts…
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/29/turkeys-american-lobbyists-work-defeat-military-aid-isis/
finance secretary jane halton of ‘children overboard’ infamy
And her name appeared in the article about the plain packaging ISDS case. That also doesn’t bode well.
that should rule her out
Except that under this lot, that would make her perfect. Think of the time and effort saved when the outcome has already been decided. They did promise to cut down on “waste” (obviously, helicopter flights aren’t waste, whereas investigating issues of corruption from the libs side of the fence is)
bronny ensuring weeks of free kickings from Labor
And I’m sure Labor will be working very hard to make sure that the Australian people know your very belated apology means nothing. 😉
And so it begins 🙂
The libs still want to destroy another industry that is performing well and getting outcomes in preference for their mates, who don’t do any of the above
The Federal Government’s proposed changes to the governance of superannuation funds will undermine Australia’s high preforming Industry Super Funds and could see millions of Australians retire with less in their super.
The ACTU submission on the Treasury Department’s Reforms to Superannuation Governance exposure draft outlines the threat to Industry Super Funds should the Abbott Government succeed in its bid to require one-third of the directors on their boards be so-called ‘independents’.
Unions warn so-called ‘independent’ directors the government wants appointed are likely to come from the business sector, tipping the balance on Industry Super boards away from members.
Industry Super Funds operate on an ‘all-profits-to-members’ model with an equal balance of employer and union representatives on boards.
This model ensures decisions are made in the best interests of super fund members and has seen Industry Super Funds consistently outperform retail super funds by around two per cent.
This means millions of Australians have received tens of thousands of dollars more in their retirement savings.
The Abbott Government wants to change this successful model to one similar to the financial advice industry, which is one of the most distrusted sectors in the economy.
http://www.actu.org.au/actu-media/media-releases/2015/abbott-government-s-industry-super-fix-will-hurt-retirement-savings
“……….wants to change this successful model to one similar to the financial advice industry, which is one of the most distrusted sectors in the economy. ”
A mate of mine reckons he rang the Greek Consulate yesterday and the person who picked up the telephone greeted him with
……………… “Guten Morgen!”
……………… “Guten Morgen!”
lol
I have been listening to the last couple of podcast here, and the “AudioBook” ones especially are hilarious and depressingly accurate in his take on the financial industry in general, and their central role in the GFC
http://thebuglepodcast.com/
Absolute power corrupts absolutely!
http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/speaker-bishop-finally-apologises/story-e6frfku9-1227462685297
… depressingly accurate in his take on the financial industry in general, …
Well, we do have our own “expert” on board here who depressingly demonstrates that lack of respect for the average punter every day.
“”Money, money, money … must be funny In the rich man’s world””
I cannot believe the libs are letting this go on. She must hold some extreme sway, or extreme secrets.
Will the Libs stick with Madam Chopper towards Election Oblivion?
Madam Speaker, sorry is supposed to be a feeling, not a tactic.
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jul/30/saying-sorry-shouldnt-be-a-tactic-bronwyn-bishop-it-should-be-a-feeling?CMP=share_btn_tw
firstlook””’what did they do?
They poured hundreds of millions of dollars and tens, thousands of tons of weapons into anyone who would fight against Assad
except that the people who were being supplied were al`Nusra and al`Qaeda and the extremist elements of jihadis coming from other parts of the world””””””via-dunny
#`partnership` is a beautiful thing #eye.roll
#re-run of afghan/ussr
Bronwyn’s bio reads like an abundance of embarrassments
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronwyn_Bishop
My view is that BB should have been sacked 15 years ago when elderly residents were forced to have kerosene baths under her watch. How she did not have to resign is beyond me to understand. A bit like catholic priest criminal behaviour, she commits an offence then she’s shuffled off somewhere else only to repeat her behaviour.
…Minister for Aged Care from 21 October 1998 to 26 November 2001.[1] It was in this role that she endured her greatest scandal, the kerosene baths controversy of 2000.[6] The revelation that some residents at Melbourne’s Riverside private nursing home had suffered blistering after being bathed in a weak kerosene solution as a cure for scabies led to a national outcry over the standards of care maintained by Bishop’s department…
Bronwyn Bishop expenses row: historic claims reveal another 15 trips
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jul/30/bronwyn-bishop-expenses-row-historic-claims-reveal-another-15-trips
…Bronwyn Bishop claimed taxpayer-funded travel benefits for her work as a committee chairwoman on more than 15 occasions for times and places when the committee was not conducting hearings, a review of historic travel claims reveals…
The Final Solution…?
All credit to Travis Ryan…
“Falling from grace forever damning the human race
A parable amongst mortals, for we were damned from the start
Mass creators of population, yet destroyers of civilization
With piss and bile coursing through veins that flood an ashen heart
God damned this world — that is if “god” exists
God hates this world — left his “son” tied to a stick?
God as sadist — this is the portrait you paint
God is within and we ruin everything…
We ruin everything.
Slow death (in the garden) unnatural selection
Sodomy (unwillingly) of everything
Our debts will never be paid, our mark left unerased
The sands of time now a suffocating desert
Devoid of color, grey matter produces greyer skies
The will to power — a suicide
Leave no trace — eliminate the human race
Killers.
Murderers.
Civilians…
The gardeners of Eden
Wreckers.
Ruiners.
Terrorists…
Addicted to death
God damned this world — that is if “god” exists
God hates this world — left his “son” tied to a stick?
God as sadist — this is the portrait you paint
God is within and we ruin everything…
Leave no trace — eliminate the human race”
Makes sense…
lol ao, from the wikipedia
Born in Sydney as Bronwyn Kathleen Setright, Bronwyn Bishop undertook a five-year LLB program at the University of Sydney.[1] However, she was deemed ineligible to continue after failing a number of subjects multiple times.[2] Bishop failed a total of 11 subjects over six years.[2] In her first year in 1960, she failed all four core subjects. In 1964, she failed four subjects again, and repeated them in 1965, in which she failed three again. The policy of the University of Sydney at the time was that a student was required to show cause why a student should be allowed to repeat a subject for a third time, and Bishop was deemed ineligible to continue.[2]
I think this speech should be getting more airplay right now
The Speaker is the guardian of parliamentary standards. The Speakership is one of the most important offices in the Parliament. The Speaker is there to uphold the integrity of the Parliament ………………
The Prime Minister, to uphold the integrity of the Parliament, needs now to require the Speaker to step down until these matters are resolved. It’s also incumbent upon the Australian Federal Police to swiftly investigate the potentially criminal allegations that have been made against the Speaker.
Of course, there is the presumption of innocence. So let the AFP, the only ones who actually have the ability to determine that, investigate the issue.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-31/farm-employers-manipulate-backpackers-into-sex/6635252
A good breakdown here of just how politicised (on one side of the fence) our AFP have become.
If there was ever to be a royal commission under Labor, it needs to be here imo.
http://nofibs.com.au/2015/07/25/choppergate-investigation-fact-check-by-margokingston1/
Bishop adopts Abbott’s tactic of contrition but absolution is something else
http://theconversation.com/grattan-on-friday-bishop-adopts-abbotts-tactic-of-contrition-but-absolution-is-something-else-45437
Apologies and seeking absolutions are Abbott’s thing. They are not part of Bishop’s repertoire…
…While she still insists she was acting within the rules, Abbott and Bishop agreed at their meeting that all her entitlement claims going back a decade will be examined by the Finance Department…
…Then there is the question of transparency. Finance Department reviews are not made public. But to have a shred of credibility, the government will need to release this one. If it just puts out bald findings, it will be a joke.
Not only does the issue of Bishop herself have to be resolved but the government should tackle the matter of entitlements, if it wants to flag to the public that it understands why people are outraged…
…Behm writes in part: “The creation of a spurious ‘public’ event to justify a private expenditure should be prohibited. Tacking on a conversation with a parliamentary mate in some distant electorate, or imposing on the hardworking staff of a hospital or a school, to justify a taxpayer-funded journey across the continent should be seen for what it is – fraud.The same should apply to the use of publicly funded vehicles to attend private events.”
Beyond tightening the rules, the government should set up a small independent secretariat to process MPs’ claims quickly and with scrutiny. This arrangement should be more hands-on than the present system. The payments should be made public more regularly than now, when they come out twice yearly. Publication every two months would be better…
Bronwyn Bishop: Do the right thing and go: Laurie Oaks
http://m.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/bronwyn-bishop-do-the-right-thing-and-go/story-fni0fha6-1227465395548
it is no surprise that the 457-417-slave-visa has now morphed into a 417-rape-sexual-harassment-visa, it is also no surprise that the `protection` of having state-plod being able to sign for the visa-holder has been (intentionally)accidentally overlooked too, which would discourage the criminally-inclined
#but that would get too close to being `fair` or `just` for the teabags
#from another aspect, notice the feminsta talking-heads missed this too
“I think this speech should be getting more airplay right now”
Strongly agree!
This is a good point but, politically speaking, now would be a great time for Labor to push for a federal ICAQ
Sure, they might be worried about what it might uncover, but, if they really want to keep themselves honest……
The fact that so few cases of Labor MP’s rorting the existing system compared with the seemingly habitual manner with which libs MP’s (yabot especially) do it needs to be highlighted also. It is dangerous ground for Labor to raise, but, considering you know ltdnews would have been trawling Labors claims and would have tried on anything they would have found, I can’t see the downside in it.
Her behaviour makes a mockery of Abbott’s comment to this paper in October 2013 when he said he expected his hand-picked Speaker to show no mercy to either side of politics in order to restore dignity to the Parliament.
Abbott said Bishop’s “natural instinct” would be to maintain a disciplined House.
Bishop is not the first biased Speaker but she is up there with the worst. While this is not a hanging offence, it explains why there is not the slightest scintilla of sympathy for her in these troubled times
In reality, appointing such a warrior to the Speaker’s chair was just another university politics prank designed to get a rise from the Left.
Right up there with reinstating knighthoods. And look how well that went.
http://www.afr.com/news/politics/why-bronwyn-bishop-is-a-disaster-of-tony-abbotts-own-making-20150731-gimqf4?stb=twt
Breaking!
http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/speaker-bishop-triggers-rules-rethink/story-e6frfku9-1227465679772
And Julie Bishop says “let’s not take focus of MH17 and MH70 … another $50 million thrown into the ocean!
tr””I can`t see the downside in it.””’
#l agree team-cheerer, why isn`t blib out kicking heads, as it is quite obvious that limited-news would have flogged the shit out of kevin07, joolya or blib `if` any `real` evidence existed, it would have saved them having to make-up shit. #where.are.ya.blib
The fact that so few cases of Labor MP’s rorting the existing system compared with the seemingly habitual manner with which libs MP’s (yabot especially) do it needs to be highlighted also
I think the ALP does digging for dirt much better than the Coalition does. They are different people. I have never been able to work out what sets a leftie off. Take the flag thing. I am sure there were lots of times with Rudd/Gillard standing in front of lots of flags. But Abbott does it and lefties go bananas.
Lefties also do outrage much better. Sins which the Coalition commits sends a leftie into orbit. The same sins committed by Labor do not raise an eyebrow.
I am sure there were lots of times with Rudd/Gillard standing in front of lots of flags.
Find one … BTW international photos don’t score …
I think the ALP does digging for dirt much better than the Coalition does.
ROFL
Find one …
I’m sure there are a few around, especially when meeting foreign dignitaries.
But it is the fact that they have now been used for almost every press release, and the fact that the large percentage of press releases are now about “tewwa” that it has become such a laughing stock.
He was surrounded by Aussie flags when he asked us to pick his “team”, and when he attacked the abc for not being on his team.
It is now being used for divisive purposes, and it is belittling to it. And to us.
The biggest rorter of them all. No wonder he’s protecting bronnie
And this is just unbelievable. Criminalizing Union powers.
Lomax charge puts Australia on path to tinpot dictatorship: union
Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/lomax-charge-puts-australia-on-path-to-tinpot-dictatorship-union-20150729-gin3yk.html#ixzz3hWsmUUe1
Wow, this is fantastic, and unsuspected good news .. if true
AUSTRALIA will not sign up to the trans-Pacific partnership trade deal in the current round of talks.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/trade-minister-andrew-robb-confirms-australia-will-not-sign-trans-pacific-partnership-deal/story-fni0xs63-1227465915303
Had to laugh about the TPP deal story in the daily tewwa “AUSTRALIA will not sign up ”
Heard a story on newsradio and apparently the stumbling blocks are the deals between the US and Japan on cars, and NZ with (they didn’t specify, seemed like with everyone) on Dairy.
Nothing at all about Australia not agreeing on anything.
So “AUSTRALIA will not sign up ” means that other nations have not concluded, so NOBODY will not sign up, and make it look like we are being tough in negotiating. ROFL
Typical murdor drivel. Half the story, if you even believe that half.
Its Time For The White Collar Workers Apparently.
http://www.theage.com.au/comment/tony-abbotts-support-of-bronwyn-bishop-is-crippling-the-government-20150731-giozsj.html
…The first time Bronwyn Bishop splurged public monies on a helicopter ride for a trivial reason was not a year ago, or a decade ago, but a generation ago, according to a former member of her staff.
The staff member, Ellis Glover, told Bishop’s biographer that she hired a helicopter on the taxpayer’s tab soon after she first entered Parliament in 1987. ..
http://www.news.com.au/finance/money/privilege-in-a-time-of-global-inequality-incredible-photos-show-life-of-the-one-per-cent/story-fnu2po3p-1227466598522