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The Ultimate Humiliation of Tony Abbott is Only Just Beginning

December 14, 2015

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Former PM Tony Abbott could be forgiven for thinking that his ultimate humiliation took place on the evening of September 14 when he was unceremoniously dumped by his own party and replaced by his long-time rival Malcolm Turnbull.

Despite issuing a heartfelt promise not to engage in any “backgrounding” or “sniping,” Abbott has since engaged in a number of high-profile interviews with media friendly accomplices Ray Hadley and Alan Jones.  More recently he has taken to the airwaves demanding that Australia escalate its military intervention in Syria with inflammatory anti-Islamic rhetoric.

The desperation is palpable.  The fear of dissolving into irrelevance must play on the minds of most public figures, but when it occurs at a time of not of one’s choosing the sense of defeat must be particularly fierce.

It’s clear that Abbott remains bitter and resentful.   However if he was under any illusion that his removal was the ultimate humiliation then he’s in for a rude awakening.

His recent forays into the media have resembled nothing other than pathetic and desperate attempts to protect and promote his so-called “legacy.”  Here is a man who would like us to think that his two years in office were all about serving in support of Australia’s best interests, but they were really all about enforcing his archaic, conservative views on a population that is considerably more mature and progressive.

Even his friend and confidante Bronwyn Bishop betrayed him, throwing her support behind Talcum Humbull after the #choppergate fiasco.

Et tu Bronwyn…?

Abbott may like us all to think that he “stopped the boats,” perhaps his only claim to fame that can be regarded with some skerrick of credibility (yet even that remains debatable), but his ultimate humiliation is only just beginning.

The Turnbull government is wasting no time dismantling the anti-environment and pro-coal agenda inflicted upon Australia during Abbott’s regime and more is set to follow.

Already Turnbull has removed Abbott’s ban on wind energy – a draconian measure that prohibited the $10 billion green bank from investing in new wind power projects.

The plan to deregulate universities has also been dumped, as have ”Knights and Dames,” and CSIRO funding that was slashed by Tony Abbott has been reinstated by Turnbull.

Abbott’s legacy, one that he is desperately attempting to recreate, is being dismantled piece by piece in favour of a more progressive, forward thinking agenda.

Perhaps this is what PM Turnbull means when he says ‘there’s never been a more exciting time to be an Australian.’

Regardless of where you sit on the political spectrum, it’s in Australia’s and arguably the world’s best interests, that Abbott is no longer running the show.

Abbott would be well-served to disappear quietly into the background, but that’s unlikely to happen.  His ego won’t allow it.

A failed priest, a failed journalist and now a failed Prime Minister. Is there anything Tony Abbott can’t turn his hand to?

Goodbye Tony. You won’t be remembered fondly.

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278 Comments leave one →
  1. December 14, 2015 10:37 am

    l`m over-dosing on glee that the rabbit will stick around and agitate the zombies during their reheating, we all know blib won`t be able to agitate them

  2. December 14, 2015 10:44 am

    l also suspect the `death-cult` will be rather pleased to see their `brand-ambassador` has returned to the public-eye to make primitive vocalizations too

  3. December 14, 2015 11:24 am

    THE TEABAGS didn`t corner the market on short-sighted crappy leaders this year #enjoy

    +

    Bill Shorten’s unelectable but he probably won’t be dumped

    As 2015 comes to a close and the new year ushers in a federal election campaign, it is fast dawning on Labor MPs and senators that they won’t win the next election under Bill Shorten’s ”leadership”.

    This doesn’t necessarily mean they will panic and remove him. The situation in opposition can be very different from that in government. Because Labor won only 55 seats at the 2013 election it is hard to see MPs losing their seats even if Shorten fails to inspire a change in voter sentiment. The 2013 election was a landslide. Shorten won’t go backwards from that devastating result. MPs and senators aren’t being dictated to by the law of self-interest when it comes to what to do with Shorten. The opportunity cost of missing out on a return to government next year is the only risk.

    The final Newspoll this year saw Shorten’s preferred prime minister rating dip to 14 per cent, and Labor trails the Coalition by six points on the two-party vote. It’s a sharp contrast to how last year ended, with Tony Abbott languishing in the polls and struggling for internal unity. The latter remains an issue for the Coalition, but the removal of an unpopular PM has exposed Shorten’s ­unelectability.

    Abbott likes to believe he would have won the next election, and who knows .. he may be right. Thinking that must help him sleep at night as he mulls over his failures (assuming he has reached that stage of grief). However, Abbott’s public comments suggest he thinks knighting Prince Philip was his only blunder and the only promise he broke was ABC funding. Were that true he’d be the most virtuous PM in Australian history. Either way, when Abbott was PM, Shorten was in the hunt. Not any more. The preferred PM differential highlights how far Labor is from returning to government. Giving voters a reason to change governments isn’t easy when only 14 per cent of people prefer Shorten over Turnbull. When squaring off against Abbott, Shorten led on this rating, which in turn saw Labor comfortably lead the Coalition on the two-party vote.

    While no first-term opposition has won an election since 1931, the gaffes, blunders, mismanagement, broken promises and unpopularity of the former PM gave Labor hope it could do the unthinkable. Abbott’s unwillingness to recognise his mistakes (a failure he continues to live by) amplified his errors.

    Because Labor was shooting for the stars it didn’t do what newly minted oppositions must .. look inward and take stock of what reforms will set it up for a return to power. Frankly, Labor didn’t do much of this across the nearly 12 years it was in the wilderness during the Howard years. In the end it returned to power largely on the ”it’s time” factor and a popular alternative PM (even if the passage of time eventually unveiled the real Kevin Rudd).

    Neither of these preconditions is in play now. The Coalition has been in office for only one term and the Opposition Leader ain’t a Kevin07 figure inspiring change.

    But could anyone else lift Labor’s stocks? Perhaps, but not enough to overcome the government now that it has jettisoned Abbott. So even Shorten’s leadership rivals aren’t urging a change at the top of the Labor Party because taking over only to take on Turnbull (in a government’s first term) looks to be a poisoned ­chalice.

    Another leader might pick up more seats than Shorten, who also will pick up seats, but not enough to win government. That’s the calculation being made by supporters of Anthony Albanese, within his Left faction and within the Right.

  4. December 14, 2015 11:26 am

    Where Shorten had hoped to win against Abbott or do well enough to get a second opportunity, now the Liberals have changed leaders the odds are Shorten gets one chance and, if he loses, he is moved on for Albanese.

    The Labor Left then hopes Albanese can prise the prime ministership off Turnbull via contrast. While this may make for depressing reading among Labor supporters, the battle plan for the party’s Right has an even longer horizon strategy. They aren’t convinced Albanese is electable but they do accept he has the numbers in the aftermath of a Shorten defeat. He therefore will get his chance to lead if Shorten falls short, and the Right will use a second term in the wilderness to groom one or more alternatives .. names such as Chris Bowen, Jason Clare or perhaps a Richard Marles, or even a Jim Chalmers as a new generation (and Queensland) candidate.

    The Right is hoping to build itself up under the new members’ voting system in the years ahead so it can stave off a Tanya Plibersek run. Just ask former NSW state Labor secretary, now senator, Sam Dastyari, who spends his time contemplating this stuff when he’s not going after multinationals to raise his own profile.

    But the missing link in all of the above is: when is Labor going to modernise the party? And who is going to sacrifice political capital to make it happen?

    While Labor doesn’t want to become a pale imitation of a liberal organisation, it does need to recognise facts about the globalised world in which we live.

    Our industrial relations system is built for another time; so is the tax system. Labor’s organisation cedes too much power to unions, which represent a shrinking share of the workforce.

    While Shorten’s ”year of ideas” has included the odd light bulb moment, modernising Labor’s mindset hasn’t been one of them. And there hasn’t been sufficient renewal.

    The risk for Labor is that it emulates what the party did under Kim Beazley’s leadership as the 1998 election approached. If Turnbull opts for serious tax reform, and especially if increasing the GST is in the mix, Labor will lunge for the electoral line.

    It won’t seek to modernise or renew; rather, it will fall back on a scare campaign to win. For an unpopular opposition leader, a bold reform agenda by the government, which includes new taxes, is manna from heaven .. just as Julia Gillard’s carbon tax was for ­Abbott.

    If the scare campaign works, and Mr 14 Per Cent does the unthinkable and wins the next election, Labor will be like the dog that catches the car: It won’t know what to do with power so soon after the Rudd and Gillard debacle. Modernising Labor certainly won’t be at the top of the agenda.

    If Labor loses despite running an anti-GST scare campaign, having done little by way of reform, it will have wasted three years in opposition. In all likelihood it will morph into what Labor was in the early years of opposition when John Howard was prime minister: indolent and slothful.

    The party needs to find its inner Bob Hawke and Paul Keating strength.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/peter-van-onselen/bill-shortens-unelectable-but-he-probably-wont-be-dumped/news-story/bc113866f53a5b5b79354d41642c83dc?nk=5d49a342531ac4c09da23dc04f96fad0-1450051434

    #FULL-POST #yaay.blib

  5. December 14, 2015 11:32 am

    Where Shorten had hoped to win against Abbott or do well enough to get a second opportunity, now the Liberals have changed leaders the odds are Shorten gets one chance and, if he loses, he is moved on for Albanese.

    The Labor Left then hopes Albanese can prise the prime ministership off Turnbull via contrast. While this may make for depressing reading among Labor supporters, the battle plan for the party’s Right has an even longer horizon strategy. They aren’t convinced Albanese is electable but they do accept he has the numbers in the aftermath of a Shorten defeat. He therefore will get his chance to lead if Shorten falls short, and the Right will use a second term in the wilderness to groom one or more alternatives .. names such as Chris Bowen, Jason Clare or perhaps a Richard Marles, or even a Jim Chalmers as a new generation (and Queensland) candidate.

    The Right is hoping to build itself up under the new members’ voting system in the years ahead so it can stave off a Tanya Plibersek run. Just ask former NSW state Labor secretary, now senator, Sam Dastyari, who spends his time contemplating this stuff when he’s not going after multinationals to raise his own profile.

    But the missing link in all of the above is: when is Labor going to modernise the party? And who is going to sacrifice political capital to make it happen?

    While Labor doesn’t want to become a pale imitation of a liberal organisation, it does need to recognise facts about the globalised world in which we live.

    Our industrial relations system is built for another time; so is the tax system. Labor’s organisation cedes too much power to unions, which represent a shrinking share of the workforce.

    While Shorten’s ”year of ideas” has included the odd light bulb moment, modernising Labor’s mindset hasn’t been one of them. And there hasn’t been sufficient renewal.

    The risk for Labor is that it emulates what the party did under Kim Beazley’s leadership as the 1998 election approached. If Turnbull opts for serious tax reform, and especially if increasing the GST is in the mix, Labor will lunge for the electoral line.

    It won’t seek to modernise or renew; rather, it will fall back on a scare campaign to win. For an unpopular opposition leader, a bold reform agenda by the government, which includes new taxes, is manna from heaven .. just as Julia Gillard’s carbon tax was for ­Abbott.

    If the scare campaign works, and Mr 14 Per Cent does the unthinkable and wins the next election, Labor will be like the dog that catches the car: It won’t know what to do with power so soon after the Rudd and Gillard debacle. Modernising Labor certainly won’t be at the top of the agenda.

    If Labor loses despite running an anti-GST scare campaign, having done little by way of reform, it will have wasted three years in opposition. In all likelihood it will morph into what Labor was in the early years of opposition when John Howard was prime minister: indolent and slothful.

    The party needs to find its inner Bob Hawke and Paul Keating strength.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/peter-van-onselen/bill-shortens-unelectable-but-he-probably-wont-be-dumped/news-story/bc113866f53a5b5b79354d41642c83dc?nk=5d49a342531ac4c09da23dc04f96fad0-1450051434

    #FULL-POST

  6. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2015 11:46 am

    Regardless of where you sit on the political spectrum, it’s in Australia’s and arguably the world’s best interests, that Abbott is no longer running the show.

    I always thought it was impossible to have another PM worse than John Howard … until the Prefect of the Private School Bullies stuck up his southpaw for the job … maybe he should apply for with this vicious lot!

    The next Budget had better be better than the 2013/14 fiasco of Abbott/Hockey or the electorate just might turn on the Liberals again … because despite all the BS … it was the Abbott government’s first budget that highlighted just how far out of touch the Liberals are …

    The changes above, wind farm funding, knighthoods and the funding to CSIRO is still way short of what was removed … and I’m not convinced that privatisation of the higher education system is actually off the books …

    … and battered wives and children are still suffering all over the bloody country, with nowhere to turn to because this heartless, misinformed, incompetent bunch of head up their arses, Liberal nincompoops cut funding to shelters!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    And tbagz, if you’re going to quote Peter van Onselen at least give him credit for doing all the WORK …

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/peter-van-onselen/bill-shortens-unelectable-but-he-probably-wont-be-dumped/news-story/bc113866f53a5b5b79354d41642c83dc

  7. December 14, 2015 12:17 pm

    Have we reached “”peak Blib??””

    Shorten back on Indigenous issues: It is wrong that our little precious babies [if they’re Indigenous] are less likely to survive..

    Bill Shorten says coal will be important into the future, then says people can’t stick their heads in the sand on climate change.

    Is anyone listening anymore….?

    Does anyone actually give a rat’s arse what Blib has to say about anything……….?

    Maybe he should just take the rest of the year off and come back after the next election cos nothing he can say or do will arrest his monumental decline or the complete lack of voter interest.

  8. December 14, 2015 12:23 pm

    hey dumb-arse, NOT quoting, sent #full-post as l somehow bounced over the paywall, it was too big for one comment, so cut it in two, 2nd part got stuck, then un-stuck when sent by `boo`

  9. December 14, 2015 12:30 pm

    Was there ever a `peak`? #yaay.blib

  10. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2015 1:25 pm

    … cos nothing he can say or do will arrest his monumental decline or the complete lack of voter interest.

    Not yet convinced, sreb … all it takes is a few silly policy backflips and Milkum rambling sarcastic BS and eventually – in 12 months – something may change …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    hey dumb-arse, NOT quoting, sent #full-post

    Dumb arse, hey?

    That’s fkn rope is getting longer … and part or full it is a “quote” … dumb arse …

    Perhaps something along the lines of …

    “”TB, somehow bounced over the paywall, it was too big for one comment, so cut it in two, 2nd part got stuck, then un-stuck when sent by `boo'”” – with link …

    And I might have apologised …

    But adding “dumb arse” … ??? That’s dumb.

  11. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2015 1:37 pm

    It must the surname Bishop … but they both seem to live in Lalal Land where everything is free … $590 for a fkn bean chair! x3!!!!!

    Innovation 101 check out Freedom or Ikea …!

    Beanbags for Bishop program cost $1770

    Taxpayers forked out more than $1700 for three beanbags as part of the federal government’s innovationXchange initiative.

    The bags were purchased at a cost of $590 each, the Department of Foreign Affairs revealed in an answer to Labor Senate leader Penny Wong.

    “This was cheaper, more practical and adaptable than a three-seat couch, which was valued at approximately $2300,” DFAT said.

    Staff also get to use a table tennis table, which converts to a large conference table for meetings and workshops during the day.

    The opposition quizzed the department about Foreign Minister Julie Bishop’s description of her brainchild initiative as a “gorgeous little funky, hipster, Googly, Facebooky-type place”.

    “The foreign minister’s description relates to a collaborative workspace and a new way of working that encourages creativity and innovation,” it said.

    The innovationXchange, launched in March, aims to get the best and brightest thinkers to develop more effective aid programs.

    The government has set aside $140 million over four years for the program.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/beanbags-for-bishop-program-cost-1770/news-story/8e5ff48daebc900875e19012c926cf78

  12. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 14, 2015 5:30 pm

    So… remember how depressing it was having a voice between Abbott and Shorten?

    Now its only about 75% as depressing.

  13. Walrus permalink
    December 14, 2015 6:30 pm

    There are bean chairs and then there are bean chairs……………..

  14. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2015 8:41 pm

    There are dicks and there are dicks …

    Would you like a link with that?

  15. December 14, 2015 9:36 pm

    limited.news,,,,,,,,,The opposition quizzed the department about Foreign Minister Julie Bishop’s description of her brainchild initiative as a “gorgeous little funky, hipster, Googly, Facebooky-type place”.

    “The foreign minister’s description relates to a collaborative workspace and a new way of working that encourages creativity and innovation,” it said.

    The innovationXchange, launched in March, aims to get the best and brightest thinkers to develop more effective aid programs.

    The government has set aside $140 million over four years for the program.

    Originally published as Beanbags for Bishop program cost $1770,,,,,,,#LOL

    #yep, the teabags `nbn-savings` are being spent wisely

    +

    ,,,,,,And I might have apologised,,,,,,

    #no you wouldn`t (it`s an adf/a thing)

  16. Walrus permalink
    December 14, 2015 11:32 pm

    “There are dicks and there are dicks …

    Would you like a link with that?”

    Don’t get the Blogmaster too excited.

    Interesting that you have finally come out of the closet though

    Waiting for you Dick Link

    Just a link please no photo required

  17. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2015 11:48 pm

    #no you wouldn`t (it`s an adf/a thing)

    You have no idea, tbagz ………..

  18. Tom R permalink
    December 15, 2015 7:50 am

    Waiting for you Dick Link

    Here’s one 🙂

  19. December 15, 2015 8:52 am

    Here’s another…

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  20. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 15, 2015 9:24 am

    Cory Bernardi is spot on!

  21. December 15, 2015 10:16 am

    tweet,,,,,,The Paris agreement is a load of hot air that wastes a pile of cash. .. Cory Bernardi (@corybernardi) December 14, 2015,,,,,,,

    #l really dislike cory agreeing with me, he should refrain from it.

  22. December 15, 2015 10:32 am

    The Ultimate Humiliation of Tony Abbott is Only Just Beginning, as more teabags line-up to be humiliated:-)

    my-abc,,,,,,,,Obviously I felt I had more to offer regional Queensland and regional Australia, that has not been the view of the LNP and I accept that,” he said.

    “I’ll make an announcement in the New Year.”

    Mr Macfarlane denied his bid to join the Nationals was a miscalculation.

    “I felt that this was the only way I’d be able to continue to be an effective voice in my electorate,” he said. Joyce denies decision shows fractures in Coalition

    Deputy Nationals Leader Barnaby Joyce told the ABC he was disappointed with the decision by the LNP executive.,,,,,,,,,

    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-14/ian-macfarlane-blocked-from-moving-to-nationals/7026920

  23. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2015 11:09 am

    Interesting … but is it just hot air … costing a pile of cash

    http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/saudis-announce-antiterror-islam-alliance/news-story/76739d6b7c29b9a5e1e1251d2fab82c6

    #l really dislike cory agreeing with me, he should refrain from it.

    I just dislike the prick – period!

  24. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 15, 2015 11:17 am

    Tony abbott might be a long time going through the 5 stages of grief, we can see denial and anger now but I wonder whether he’ll ever get to bargaining, depression and acceptance.

    He might even add another stage of his own- revenge, before he can finally move on, or maybe he will be forever stuck in anger. Who in the liberal party will get him out of the credlin/loughnane flat where the unemployed government-in-exile resides and into therapy? Will the greatest therapy be plotting & scheming to overthrow malcolm?

    I just saw a lovely shot on TV of malcolm almost stroking a nice shiny solar panel, looking very pleased with himself.
    You know that Lucy has had a big involvement in german-australian relations in science, innovation and technology?

    Lucy Turnbull’s innovation push:
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/economy/2015/12/12/lucy-turnbulls-innovation-push/14498388002739

    A strong connection with Germany and investment in emerging technologies have seen Lucy Turnbull drive the innovation debate…

    …Now, her views on the importance of innovation and science have also fed into the government’s first major policy shift since her husband won the leadership three months ago.

    Lucy Turnbull wants to foster connections between science and industry.

    That’s not to suggest that the wide-ranging innovation statement, unveiled by the prime minister this week, was devised around the Turnbulls’ breakfast table.

    Rather, Lucy’s views have fed into it via her involvement with a high-level Australia–Germany Advisory Group, which predated her husband’s promotion.

    Until recently, the bridges she has been trying to build between these two countries have never really progressed beyond diplomatic niceties.

    But both sides are now making a concerted effort to deepen their relationship and forge new trade ties, as German company ThyssenKrupp bids for a multibillion dollar contract to build submarines for Australia and Australian gas exporters eye off new markets in Europe.

    This advisory group made recommendations covering a range of topics, including greater collaboration on science, with a focus on the commercialisation of research.

    These recommendations fed into the prime minister’s innovation statement, unveiled on Monday.

    “I think the Germans have a very good track record in commercialisation of innovation,” says Lucy Turnbull, who joined the advisory group in her role as president of the German–Australian Chamber of Industry and Commerce.

    “The relationship between Germany and Australia could potentially be, in certain respects, a marriage made in heaven, where you combine a strength in basic scientific research [in Australia] with a strength in commercialisation and applied research [in Germany].”…

    A worthwhile read.

  25. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 15, 2015 11:47 am

  26. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 15, 2015 12:01 pm

  27. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2015 12:23 pm

    Now if I was a cynic* …

    “I think the Germans have a very good track record in commercialisation of innovation,” says Lucy Turnbull, who joined the advisory group in her role as president of the German–Australian Chamber of Industry and Commerce.

    “The relationship between Germany and Australia could potentially be, in certain respects, a marriage made in heaven, where you combine a strength in basic scientific research [in Australia] with a strength in commercialisation and applied research [in Germany].”…

    Only one reason multi millionaires enter politics … and its not to serve the people …

    My Teutonic mate will love this …

  28. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2015 12:24 pm

    Fracking is fucking frightening for the future!

  29. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 15, 2015 12:50 pm

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/treasury/deficits-fuel-600bn-debt-nightmare-as-revenue-plunges/news-story/9ebf9498d48be5e78e196ae7a4de38c1

    The nation’s debt will climb past $600 billion as the Coalition’s struggle to reduce spending is reflected in another blowout in the budget deficit to be revealed today.

    Gross debt is now tracking to reach the nightmare scenario flagged by the Coalition in its first budget statement after it won the 2013 election, when it warned of the “massive” burden and declared it would not leave the problem for another day………..The figures will highlight the impact of Senate decisions to block major savings but they will also focus attention on Treasury’s failure in 2013 to accurately forecast revenue, which will fall about $100bn short over the four years of the budget forward estimates. In particular, Treasury massively overestimated the price of iron ore. Today’s budget update is likely to include an iron ore price forecast of no more than $US38 a tonne, compared with the $US48 prediction in the May budget and the $US96 forecast in last year’s budget.

  30. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 15, 2015 1:20 pm

  31. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 15, 2015 1:28 pm

    Federal politicians claim almost $48 million in expenses: Find out how much your local MP spent
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-03/federal-politicians-claim-almost-48-million-in-expenses/6999498

    …Federal politicians claimed almost $48 million in expenses over the first six months of 2015, new documents have revealed.

    The latest expenditure report for MPs and senators found that Agriculture Minister Barnaby Joyce had the highest total, registering $1,073,991.45 in expenses during the period, followed by Justice Minister Michael Keenan and Foreign Minister Julie Bishop.

    Mr Joyce also claimed the largest amount on office fit outs, totalling more than $670,000…

    Australian Public Service spends $10 billion on consultants
    http://www.bordermail.com.au/story/3566414/australian-public-service-spends-10-billion-on-consultants/?cs=7

    …Procurement spending by the Australian Public Service soared by $10 billion in the past financial year with Commonwealth agencies splashing nearly $60 billion of taxpayers’ cash in 2014-2015.

    New figures from the Finance Department show nearly $10 billion of the total went to pay external “management and business professionals” and on “administrative services” in the wake of the loss of thousands of full-time public service jobs.

    Another $13 billion was spent on “politics and civic affairs” as spending on external services grew to $39 billion, twice the $20 billion spent on goods.

    The figures, compiled from contracts notified on the AusTender website, reveal the procurement spending by the Australian Public Service has exploded by nearly 100 per cent since 2010-2011, when $32.6 billion was spent, to more than $59 billion in 2014-2015.

    At the same time, the number of public servants has fallen from 166,000 to 152,000, with more job cuts expected. The government also remains locked in a bitter pay dispute with the main public service union…

  32. December 15, 2015 1:29 pm

    a,,,,,,,Lucy has had a big involvement in german-australian relations in science, innovation and technology,,,,,,

    ,,,,,,stroking a nice shiny solar panel, looking very pleased with himself,,,,,,,

    #innovation, science, technology, NBN!!!

    #the solar-powered, renew-loving germans would be well aware of what he`s `stroking`, only taking a break from `stroking` to allow lucy to do some `stroking`, the germans don`t live in a bubble and would be well aware of the clown she resides with

  33. December 15, 2015 1:40 pm

    tony windsor`s tweets are always fantabulous aren`t they

  34. December 15, 2015 2:07 pm

    tweet,,,,,,Company tax receipts written down by $1.1 billion in 2015-16,,,,,,,

    #so, abdicating collecting required tax via loop-holes, while relying on plummeting `dig-up` prices remains `innovation`, so l guess increase to 15%-gst will remain being touted as `reform`, and fracking-up water and farm-land will still be considered good `science` by talkbulls zombies

  35. Walrus permalink
    December 15, 2015 3:45 pm

    “…tony windsor`s tweets are always fantabulous aren`t they”

    LOL…………Yes he’s such a non hypocrite……….

    “I think we should terminate this conversation”.

    “You listen to me pal, you mind your own business, it’s my family’s business. If you want to make up some bullshit story, go for your life, I don’t care,” he said before hanging up.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/independent-mp-tony-windsor-in-league-of-his-own-on-farm-sale/story-fn59niix-1225911091227

  36. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 15, 2015 3:54 pm

    Some more ALP mess

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/qld-debt-to-fall-slightly-before-rising/news-story/5ac19fee195134567d2c1f6dc8709631

    Queensland’s debt is still on track to hit almost $80 billion within four years.

    Treasurer Curtis Pitt’s mid-year economic statement shows the government will cut net debt from $74.1 billion in 2014-15 to $73.8 billion this financial year.

    However, net debt is still set to march towards a figure of $79.6 billion in 2018-19.

  37. December 15, 2015 4:17 pm

    For Neil…

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  38. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2015 4:50 pm

    The federal government will cut bulk-billing incentives for pathology services and ratchet up its welfare crackdown as the first budget update of the Malcolm Turnbull era revealed the deficit had blown out by $26bn over four years.

    The government is continuing its budget rule of not cutting to make up for revenue write-downs, but has found offsets for new spending announced since the last budget such as the innovation plan and $909m for the increased refugee intake.

    The new cuts in the health portfolio include $650m over four years from changes to bulk-billing incentives, $595m from “streamlining” health workforce programs, and $472m from adjusting aged care funding formulas.

    The government says it will remove incentives for pathology services and reduce the incentive for MRI services. It says it will align incentives for diagnostic imaging services to the ones that apply to GP services, with incentives continuing to apply for patients with concession cards and children under 16.

    Morrison is also banking on $1.3bn by expanding the welfare payment integrity measure announced in the last budget, which was already slated to achieve $1.7bn.

    The government says the new measure will focus on recovering money from a greater number of people where discrepancies exist between the employment income they declare to Centrelink and the “pay as you go” information provided to the tax office.

    A further $695m is to be saved from the welfare system by increasing other forms of data-matching. The government will also gain $318m from a new cap on the number of green army projects.

    So nothing has changed at all …

    No mention of:

    ► Negative Gearing welfare

    ► Trust Fund welfare

    ► Super Tax Breaks for the rich welfare

    ► Multi-national Tax dodge welfare

    ► Present pollie’s expenses welfare

    ► Post pollie’s expenses welfare

    ► Bean bag wastefulness

    ► International Travel wastefulness

    Nah, just keep kids ignorant and the population sick and tired of greedy, self-serving, hypocritical politicians … who are obviously blind, stupid, or just plainly incompetent

  39. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2015 4:51 pm

    The above is grabbed from KL’s link @ December 15, 2015 1:20 pm

  40. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 15, 2015 5:24 pm

    Australia’s net foreign debt since 1989:

    If that graph is correct that would be total foreign debt both public and private. Public (govt) debt exploded under Rudd/Gillard. The graph means that companies stopped borrowing money under Rudd/Gillard.

  41. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2015 7:45 pm

    The graph means that companies stopped borrowing money under Rudd/Gillard

    Qualified in statistical analysis are you, Kneel?

  42. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2015 7:54 pm

    Kneel for your edification.

    From the Wiki page for that graph:

    The Australian government debt[3] is the amount owed by the Australian federal government. The Australian Office of Financial Management, which is part of the Treasury Portfolio, is the agency which manages the government debt and does all the borrowing on behalf of the Australian government.[4]

    As of 28 February 2014, the gross Australian government debt was A$300,628 million;

    … at 15 August 2014 it was A$326,552 million;

    and at 13 March 2015 it was A$361,085 million (A$361.085bn), an increase of AUD$2.051bn from 6 March 2015.[5]

    Australian government debt does not take into account government funds held in reserve within statutory authorities such as the Australian Government Future Fund which at 31 December 2014 held $109 billion. Australia’s net international investment liability position (government debt and private debt) was $875.3 billion at 30 September 2014, an increase of $9.4 billion (1%) on the liability position at 30 June 2014, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics.[6][7]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_government_debt

    Now … when did the Liberal Party (and the wagging tail Nats) take government?

    Economic managers? About as good as you …

    No mention of:

    ► Negative Gearing welfare

    ► Trust Fund welfare

    ► Super Tax Breaks for the rich welfare

    ► Multi-national Tax dodge welfare

    ► Present pollie’s expenses welfare

    ► Post pollie’s expenses welfare

    ► Bean bag wastefulness

    ► International Travel wastefulness

    Following the 2013 Australian federal election on 7 September, the Coalition defeated the second Rudd Government

  43. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 15, 2015 7:59 pm

    😆
    He just can’t help himself!
    Now Abbott has written a letter to the editor, complaining about Peter van onselen’s book “battleground”

    http://m.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/stitch-up-tony-abbott-writes-letter-to-the-editor-complaining-about-new-biography-20151215-glnqxj.html

  44. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 15, 2015 8:15 pm

    Kneel for your edification.

    From the Wiki page for that graph:

    Yes and the legend for the graph said this

    Australia’s net foreign debt (including all sectors) as a percentage of GDP since 1989.

    The graph Reb showed net foreign debt both public and private. For some reason private debt stabilised under Rudd. But govt debt exploded.

  45. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 15, 2015 8:35 pm

    Companies don’t hold debt on my behalf. Governments do.

    The government owes more on my behalf than I owe personally.

  46. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2015 8:47 pm

    BTW, what is interesting are the dips at the end of the Keating government … and at the end of the Rudd/Gillard governments … AND

    The shooting star increases when Howard came to power and then Abbott/Turnbull …

    … I can see a pattern there …

    Economic managers – my arse … last of the big spenders!

    Bean bags … how much!

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bean-Bag-Funky-Indoor-Outdoor-Pool-Lounge-Chair-Water-Resistant/141852458216?_trksid=p2045573.c100034.m2102&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140410092834%26meid%3Ddcf23ef772a347e6b8faf8bab9acc721%26pid%3D100034%26rk%3D8%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D281591607014

  47. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2015 8:49 pm

    For some reason private debt stabilised under Rudd. But govt debt exploded.

    Not according to graph above …

  48. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2015 8:59 pm

    This is Dopey Dutton …

    A “minister” with absolute power over other people’s lives … and the intelligence of a worm …

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/comment/the-zone/you-be-the-judge-should-this-man-be-thrown-out-of-australia-20151117-gl0quo.html

  49. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 15, 2015 9:03 pm

    Not according to graph above …

    The graph is deceitful. Most probably put in there by a lefty to confuse people. The graph combines both private and public debt. Why put a graph which contains private debt in an article on govt debt unless you were trying to confuse people? Govt debt exploded under Rudd/Gillard. And it is continuing to explode under Abbott/Turnbull

  50. December 16, 2015 8:26 am

    l agree with teebz comments on `finance`

    On my abc this morning morrison was crapping on about the usual austerity for the masses, trioli asked about `returning-to-surplus`, then the tap-dancing began, morrison claiming it`s a `political` question and didn`t want discuss it

    trioli then said `it was so important when you were in opposition` and morrison tap-danced some more

    #the zombies may have stuck a new label on it with talkbull, but it`s definitely the same can of crap, they`re now reheating the 2014 budget #yaaay.zombies

  51. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2015 10:32 am

    Little things demonstrate how regressive we’ve become with conservative Liberal governments that live in the 1950’s …

    The Canadian flag:

    What’s expected to be the new Kiwi flag:

    The Australian flag:

    Under the tories nothing changes …

  52. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 16, 2015 10:54 am

    Yeah TB. All those ALP types that have put their cash and time into the republican movement really made a difference.

    Turnbull did nothing to support the republican movement – f**king tories!

  53. Tom R permalink
    December 16, 2015 11:16 am

    Turnbull did nothing to support the republican movement

    It’s almost as if he is a far right liberal with a left leaning varnish. Scratch the surface……..

    and he aint even “Labor-lite” ™

  54. Tom R permalink
    December 16, 2015 11:19 am

    Looks like Peter Martin has finally opened his eyes. Just wait until the rest of the throng finally work out that malcayman is as much bullshitting them as yabot ever was. And why are they the last to work it out?

  55. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 16, 2015 11:32 am

    Well it looks like we are in trouble

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/treasury/myefo-debt-bomb-builds-after-surplus-slip/news-story/1980dd365fc32d759f050b07622dec09

    The government is on track to spend more than $21 billion a year on interest payments on commonwealth debt — more than it spends on public hospitals — as it puts off a budget surplus until early next decade……..The gross debt will reach $647bn in 2025-26, close to the figure of $667bn forecast more than two years ago when Tony Abbott and Mr Hockey warned of a “budget emergency”.

  56. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2015 11:40 am

    WTF! The Mad Abbott’s lap dogs causing shit around the world AT OUR EXPENSE!

    More politician’s welfare … how much did this little trip of ignorant nonsense cost!

    I see Chrissy is still the little lad … “It wasn’t me mum, it was them” … what does he think “led by … ” entails …

    Bunch of fkn dorks! Palestine? GMAFB!

    Palestinian criticism of Pyne delegation

    A Palestinian minister has criticised a delegation of federal politicians led by Innovation Minister Christopher Pyne, saying they were not “well educated”.

    Palestinian Education Minister Dr Sabri Saidam told the ABC a meeting with Australian representatives, including former Speaker Bronwyn Bishop and Human Rights commissioner Tim Wilson, was “very explosive”.

    “The delegation had false information and twisted facts,” he said following the meeting.

    showing Ms Bishop “quizzing” the minister – and another saying it was a “curious meeting”.

    When asked by the ABC about Dr Saidam’s comments, Mr Pyne said some of the members of the delegation were potentially “too robust”.

    “I very diplomatically asked the prime minister and the higher education minister questions which I thought would be useful for understanding the Palestinian attitudes to the peace process,” he said.

    “Other members of the dialogue were slightly more robust and could be accused of quizzing them.

    “I didn’t quiz anyone.”

    Also photographed at the meeting was outgoing Liberal Party federal director Brian Loughnane, Labor MP Tim Watts and opposition senator Glenn Sterle.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/palestinian-criticism-of-pyne-delegation/news-story/9edb8a62363a789c64d3369b9e8100ec

  57. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2015 11:56 am

    It’s almost as if he is a far right liberal with a left leaning varnish. Scratch the surface……..

    Yep, the Emperor has no clothes, TR … just a bankfull of $$$ on the Cayman Islands …

    He’ll share it with us one day I’m sure …

    As for this tripe …

    Yeah TB. All those ALP types that have put their cash and time into the republican movement really made a difference.

    Turnbull did nothing to support the republican movement – f**king tories!

    What has a modernisation (innovation if you will) of the Australian flag to do with cash and time into the Republican movement ..?

    I suspect that you think Turnbull did more than any “ALP type” … once again without any evidence just your personal speculation …

    As for TURNCOAT’s role in the Republic Referendum of 1999 … ain’t it funny, a Liberal wannabe PM leads the Republican Movement into a trap set by the very man (John Howard) who later gives him a ministry … and is now PM!

    Not that I’m a cynic … especially when it comes to multi-millionaire, long term planning!

    As for putting up cash … for whose benefit?

    As a krystian you would know that it’s not the value of the donation in $$ value but in personal circumstance … Turncoat could invest $1m but someone on a pension may donate a $100 and have donated far more based on personal circumstances …

    My original comment BTW was concerning the lack of innovation and creativeness within the tory ranks …

    You decided to defend the Emperor Turncoat … with no evidence …

    Having to explain all this to you simply demonstrates my argument …

  58. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 16, 2015 12:20 pm

    Revealed: Prince Charles has received confidential cabinet papers for decades
    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/dec/15/revealed-prince-charles-has-received-confidential-cabinet-papers-for-decades?CMP=share_btn_tw

    …“He is not just a figurehead, he has become a participant in national debate and there is no control over his lobbying,” Flynn said. “This means that he is not only the most influential lobbyist, but the best informed and he is lobbying for his own interests, which are not always benign or sensible.”…

    Secret papers show extent of senior royals’ veto over bills
    http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jan/14/secret-papers-royals-veto-bills

    The extent of the Queen and Prince Charles’s secretive power of veto over new laws has been exposed after Downing Street lost its battle to keep information about its application secret.

    …Whitehall papers prepared by Cabinet Office lawyers show that overall at least 39 bills have been subject to the most senior royals’ little-known power to consent to or block new laws. They also reveal the power has been used to torpedo proposed legislation relating to decisions about the country going to war…

  59. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 16, 2015 1:44 pm

  60. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2015 1:46 pm

    The Firm is just that, KL, a business they just happen to be the richest Robber Barons … Royal Robber Barons … in the world …

    Birthright … AND money … are they really “benevolent authoritarians”?

    ‘Cause they ain’t elected … even Milkum Turncoat was elected … BUT … does The Firm tinker with Australian political decisions … ??

  61. Walrus permalink
    December 16, 2015 1:56 pm

    “Under the tories nothing changes …”

    My Dog you are so full of crap

    Over the last 45 years 22 have been ALP governments. I think you might like to include the ALP in your generalised BS

  62. Walrus permalink
    December 16, 2015 2:02 pm

    Oh Yeah………….Palestinians dedicated to the Peace process. Who are you trying to kid ?

  63. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 16, 2015 2:03 pm

    BUT … does The Firm tinker with Australian political decisions … ??

    I bet they do, nothing would be done without their approval, the only people who aren’t in the know are australian citizens. The young royals seemed to be invited here a lot when abbott was PM.

    The Queen did recently refuse to see the ex-PM tony abbott when he asked for an audience while in london giving a speech. Poor tones, none more proud of the monarchy and his birth nation than himself. After all he’s done for Sir Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, Order of the Garter, Lord High Admiral of the Royal Navy, Field Marshal of the British Army, Marshal of the Royal Air Force, elder of the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glucksburg too!

  64. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 16, 2015 2:10 pm

    …Palestinian Education Minister Dr Sabri Saidam told the ABC a meeting with Australian representatives, including former Speaker Bronwyn Bishop and Human Rights commissioner Tim Wilson, was “very explosive”….

  65. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 16, 2015 3:14 pm

  66. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2015 3:39 pm

    Over the last 45 years 22 have been ALP governments. I think you might like to include the ALP in your generalised BS

    And the 23 tory governments have all been backward looking and regressive … (I didn’t know it was 22/23 – interesting …)

    Oh Yeah………….Palestinians dedicated to the Peace process. Who are you trying to kid ?

    There you go again … putting your brain farts into my comments …

    I didn’t even mention the Palestinians* or peace … (*Palestine in my comment meaning why? What was the hidden agenda … just another holiday at taxpayers expense …

    I commented on the ignorance, rudeness and arrogance of a bunch of no-hopers waltzing into someone else’s country and demonstrating just how not to develop international relationships …

    I think the tweets from KL’s comment @ December 16, 2015 2:10 pm … sum it up pretty well …

  67. Tom R permalink
    December 16, 2015 3:40 pm

    and Human Rights commissioner Tim Wilson

    I can just see #freedomboy arguing with the Palestinians about the Israeli’s “freedom” to steal land whilst simultaneously bombing htem back into the dark ages (and then wonder why they act like they are from the dark ages)

  68. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2015 3:45 pm

    Breaking News: Federal Court throws out Dallas Buyers Club #piracy case #copyright…

    If we have all these FTA around the globe … how come we still have DVD and BD regiojnal zones … ?

    Free Trade my arse!

  69. Tom R permalink
    December 16, 2015 3:49 pm

    just how not to develop international relationships …

    yabot style relationships 😉

  70. Tom R permalink
    December 16, 2015 3:52 pm

    Free Trade my arse!

    Ya gotta be careful how you phrase things around here TB 😉

    But, as for “free trade”, the only “free” is for the rich

  71. Walrus permalink
    December 16, 2015 4:02 pm

    “……a Liberal wannabe PM leads the Republican Movement into a trap”

    That’s rubbish as well.

    There was a very big split in the Republican Movement over the model.

    Just ask Ted Mack (former MP for North Sydney)

    Would you like Ted Mack’s phone number ?

  72. Walrus permalink
    December 16, 2015 4:12 pm

    “I commented on the ignorance, rudeness and arrogance of a bunch of no-hopers waltzing into someone else’s country ……”

    Someone else’s country ???????????????????

    Er……………………….WRONG again.

    You really do have to pick up your act before you drag the collective intelligence of the Lefties on here into the completely undetectable zone

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine

  73. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 16, 2015 4:27 pm

    What a turn-up for the books: a big spending, big taxing Liberal party http://

    Well Abbott/Hockey tried to do something about it but were called mean and nasty.

    Fact is we are domed because of ALP policies.

    I suspect Hockey just gave up and decided to make a future that was good for his family.

  74. Walrus permalink
    December 16, 2015 5:06 pm

    Here you go you little Green Lefties cop this…………………………ROFLMAO

    http://www.afr.com/news/politics/sa-government-in-energy-market-crisis-talks-with-industry-suppliers-20151214-gln55j

  75. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2015 5:14 pm

    You really do have to pick up your act before you drag the collective intelligence of the Lefties on here into the completely undetectable zone

    Little chance of that … with the waffle from you …

    The Palestinian National Authority (PA or PNA; Arabic: السلطة الوطنية الفلسطينية‎ as-Sulṭa al-Waṭanīya al-Filasṭīnīya) is the interim self-government body[6] established to govern the Gaza Strip and Areas A and B of the West Bank, as a consequence of the 1993 Oslo Accords.[7][8] Following elections in 2006 and the subsequent Gaza conflict between the Fatah and Hamas parties, its authority had extended only in areas A and B of the West Bank. Since January 2013, the Fatah-controlled Palestinian Authority uses the name “State of Palestine” on official documents.[9][10][11]

    An Australian-led delegation to the West Bank featuring Minister Christopher Pyne, former speaker Bronwyn Bishop, Labor MP Tim Watts and Human Rights Commissioner Tim Wilson has been criticised by a minister in the Palestinian Authority, who said the group had “false information” and were “not well educated”.

    Country or elected authority … not really the point is it …

    … none of the delegation live there and they ARE representing Australia … that’s the sad part …

    They were guests … and were obviously discourteous to their hosts, the Prime Minister and the Education Minister who represent the majority of Palestinians …

  76. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2015 5:15 pm

    Fact is we are domed because of ALP policies.

    Strange, its the Liberal timewarp dome that we seem to live in …

  77. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 16, 2015 5:30 pm

    Strange, its the Liberal timewarp dome that we seem to live in

    Please speak english.

    Fact is Rudd/Gillard and the people who voted for them created a runaway debt train.

    Can we stop it? Most probably not.

  78. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2015 5:32 pm

    Here you go you little Green Lefties cop this…………………………ROFLMAO

    Don’t get too cocky!

    From your link …

    “The state government recognises we must do more to address issues in the market as we transition to a low-carbon economy,” said Mr Koutsantonis, who also serves as Energy Minister.

    keyword … transition

    If the Liberal Party and its wafflers got off their arses and stopped throwing money at coal
    and sequestration (a most expensive pipe dream) and supported renewable energy instead … the cost of states building railway lines will end and the cost of power would actually fall … and the air would be cleaner and safer for all …

    With the right innovative management renewable energy is only a decade away …

    The next big breakthrough in energy storage (batteries to you) will break the stranglehold of coal powered electricity generation … so;

    Here you go you little Righty fossil fools cop this …

    If others can do it so can Australia …

    In less than 10 years, Uruguay has slashed its carbon footprint without government subsidies or higher consumer costs, according to the country’s head of climate change policy, Ramón Méndez.

    In fact, he says that now that renewables provide 94.5% of the country’s electricity, prices are lower than in the past relative to inflation. There are also fewer power cuts because a diverse energy mix means greater resilience to droughts.

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/dec/03/uruguay-makes-dramatic-shift-to-nearly-95-clean-energy

    BTW you can keep your horse and buggy … but please clean up the horseshit you leave behind … 😉

  79. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 16, 2015 5:33 pm

    I always suspected vegetarians were dangerous anti-social arseholes: Lettuce is ‘three times worse than bacon’ for emissions and vegetarian diets could be bad for environment

  80. Walrus permalink
    December 16, 2015 5:55 pm

    “…In fact, he says that now that renewables provide 94.5% of the country’s electricity, prices are lower than in the past relative to inflation. There are also fewer power cuts because a diverse energy mix means greater resilience to droughts…”

    As usual you only disclose part of the real picture.

    Now how much of those renewables come from Hydro and not Solar or Wing ?????????????????????

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_Uruguay#Installed_capacity

  81. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 16, 2015 5:55 pm

    [This article was written by a Labor Party member]
    EXCLUSIVE: Struggling Shorten parties on over Labor’s Terrigal NSW problem:
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/exclusive-struggling-shorten-parties-on-over-labors-nsw-problem,8496

    …Bill Shorten is holding on by his fingernails, according to Labor insiders.

    Fairfax journalist James Massola reported on October 12:

    ‘But as one recently said to Fairfax Media, if the party recorded three consecutive primary votes of less then 35 per cent in published opinion polls, “come and see me”.’
    He’s well in that zone leading into Christmas, with no sign of an uptick.

    Massola also spoke of a ‘bleak’ mood among Right faction hard heads ‘particularly in NSW’…

    Between two stools:
    http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/12/between-two-stools.html

  82. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2015 6:10 pm

    Now how much of those renewables come from Hydro and not Solar or Wing ?????????????????????

    Once again you nit pick or really don’t know how renewable energy works … you could have, solar, wind, wave, hydro, biomass, geothermal … and a few more …

    Depending on your geography and resources … ‘frinstance Uruguay may have a lot of mountains and rivers … we have a lot of land mass and sun … difference is Uruguay utilises its terrain to create energy by using hydro … Australia has only just begun to utilise its terrain by building solar and wind farms …

    And the more alternatives you have the better …

    It doesn’t matter how Australia does it … as long as we do it …

    Wonder what power we could generate by hooking up all those exercise bikes in gyms? 💡

    Renewable energy is about thinking creatively ie … innovation … and into the future …

  83. Walrus permalink
    December 16, 2015 6:23 pm

    “”Depending on your geography and resources … ‘frinstance Uruguay may have a lot of mountains and rivers … we have a lot of land mass”” and coal and gas

    That looks much better !

  84. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 16, 2015 6:34 pm

    If the Liberal Party and its wafflers got off their arses and stopped throwing money at coal

    And what did the ALP do from 2007-2013? I will believe an ALP supporter when the ALP stops exporting coal.

  85. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2015 7:08 pm

    That looks much better !

    Might to you … but how will you RENEW coal and gas?

    None so blind …

    And what did the ALP do from 2007-2013? I will believe an ALP supporter when the ALP stops exporting coal.

    Do you really think anyone cares what you believe, Kneel?

  86. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 16, 2015 7:12 pm

    Do you really think anyone cares what you believe, Kneel?

    Well you cared enough to make a comment.

    But i will believe an ALP supporter when the ALP and its supporters stop exporting coal which is our second biggest export.

  87. December 17, 2015 8:40 am

    THIS,,,,,,Prince Charles has received confidential cabinet papers for decades,,,,,,

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/dec/15/revealed-prince-charles-has-received-confidential-cabinet-papers-for-decades?CMP=share_btn_tw

    #is PRETTY MUCH ignorance bait for repugs and lefties to make them squirt.

    #it is NOT new info, there is at least one documentary (shown at least twice in aust) on the royals which includes that Liz gets a box of papers from parliament containing `all` details, Liz also receives all `security` info, (tho doco didn`t `state` details mi5/6/british-intel/scotland-yard/interpol/etc) and is well updated on `security` too, it is no surprise what-so-ever charlie gets it too as `heir`, (william probably in the loop too)

  88. December 17, 2015 9:01 am

    CORRECTION,,,,,,,,This article was amended on Tuesday 15 January 2013 because it stated that Prince Charles has used the veto on more than a dozen occasions when it should have said that he has been asked to consent to 20 pieces of legislation.,,,,,,,

    ,,,,,,,,,,A Buckingham Palace spokeswoman said: “It is a long established convention that the Queen is asked by parliament to provide consent to those bills which parliament has decided would affect crown interests. The sovereign has not refused to consent to any bill affecting crown interests unless advised to do so by ministers.”

    A spokesman for Prince Charles said: “In modern times, the prince of Wales has never refused to consent to any bill affecting Duchy of Cornwall interests, unless advised to do so by ministers. Every instance of the prince’s consent having been sought and given to legislation is a matter of public record.”

    Graham Smith, director of ###Republic, the campaign for an elected head of state, has also called for full disclosure of the details of the occasions when royal consent has been refused.,,,,,,,,,

    #this post too, seems to be more squirt to bait repugs and lefties

    #in Aust we should be more concerned that every prime-meddler we have, trots-off to find rupert and lick him between the cheeks

  89. December 17, 2015 9:07 am

    DOH,,,,,December 17, 2015 9:01 am,,,,

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jan/14/secret-papers-royals-veto-bills

  90. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 9:08 am

    Same old same old from the same old mob

    The government will consider taking industrial relations changes to the next election as part of its push to generate economic growth and tackle burgeoning debt and deficit, Treasurer Scott Morrison says.

    And he vowed to take to the election $13.9 billion in cuts to welfare and other areas left over from the notorious 2014 budget, saying they would only be replaced if renegotiated or alternative savings were offered by the Senate.

    Read more: http://www.afr.com/news/politics/scott-morrison-flags-taking-industrial-relations-reform-to-next-election-20151215-gloika#ixzz3uWXBO8YJ
    Follow us: @FinancialReview on Twitter | financialreview on Facebook

    Yes, they really have taken so much from yabots rejection, that they will still try pass the previously rejected budgets measures.

    Labor have been highlighting this since malcayman took over, same retrogrades with a fresh coat of paint, while the press cheerers kept telling us that he is a brave new world.

    Well, it is now obvious they were sucked in by the shiny new thing

    Will the press pack at large join Peter Martin in acknowledging it though, that is the question?

  91. Walrus permalink
    December 17, 2015 9:09 am

    “… but how will you RENEW coal and gas? ”

    Simple…………then you start using the other natural resources like Uranium.

    That should get you through the next couple of hundred thousand years by which time solar might just be economic

  92. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 9:10 am

    DOH,,,,,

    Kind of redundant on one of your posts aint it cheerbag? 🙂

  93. Walrus permalink
    December 17, 2015 9:15 am

    “PRETTY MUCH ignorance bait for repugs and lefties to make them squirt. ”

    LOL

    They are continually outraged and ashamed of their own country and their fellow citizens.

    Just look at angry old TB. I have no idea why he doesn’t just pack up and go back to Yorkshire. Surely a bit of English air might cool him down a tad,. Instead he wakes up at about 11am every morning gnashing his teeth all day squirting out something about economy and society, robber barons etc until he has his dinner at 5pm then falls asleep around 7pm until groundhog day starts again at 11am

    It’s weird !

  94. December 17, 2015 9:15 am

    blubbering,,,,,,,then you start using the other natural resources like Uranium,,,,,,,

    #the dumb-fcuk factory is in full production l see

    #who/what will be buying nukie power, when biz and citizens will be off-grid

  95. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 9:18 am

    Here you go you little Green Lefties cop this

    Not too sure what their point there is? Except that it appears that coal is price gouging whilst they can. Trying to blame the exhorbidant costs of electricity though doesn’t really gel with the facts

    In 2014–15, there was a continuing link between times of high wind generation and low spot prices for
    the region. Very high spot prices tended to occur when wind generation was low, while low spot prices
    occurred when wind generation was high.
    Negative spot prices were observed in 154 price intervals in 2014–15, the second highest level in five
    years. Negative spot prices typically coincided with high wind energy penetration during the trading
    interval.

    From the PDF link here

    “2015 South Australian Wind Study Report”

    http://www.aemo.com.au/Electricity/Planning/South-Australian-Advisory-Functions/South-Australian-Wind-Study-Report

    Or the fact that the culprit for high electricity prices has already been fingered

    Mr Thistlethwaite says that the inquiry was presented with many examples of infrastructure being built where it wasn’t needed.
    …………..
    All of this extra wind and solar, combined with the fall in energy demand, has driven down the wholesale cost of coal-fired power.

    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/2014-04-27/5406022#transcript

    Seems to me there are vested interests trying the old “look over there” tactics.

    This isn’t to say that SA isn’t being charged a premium when wind is low, and that the State Government is trying to minimise this, but, considering how much extra cheap power the state is getting via wind is not likely to be offset by this gouging, don’t forget the elephant in the room, the ‘gold plating’ that has pushed up prices.

    And, SA do need to look elsewhere than just wind to meet it’s needs into the future.

    but how will you RENEW coal and gas?

    Kill more dinosaurs? 🙂

  96. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 9:21 am

    #the dumb-fcuk factory is in full production l see

    That one requires no “DOH” though 😉

    I’d suggest wally look to Japan for the glowing success of nuclear as an alternative …… or not, as the case may be.

  97. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 17, 2015 9:28 am

  98. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 17, 2015 9:30 am

  99. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 17, 2015 9:30 am

  100. Walrus permalink
    December 17, 2015 9:31 am

    The Jap plants are old but these are not

    http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Country-Profiles/Countries-A-F/China–Nuclear-Power/

  101. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 17, 2015 9:40 am

    So Turnbull’s enforcer, Duncan Lewis of ASIO, says that free speech is counter-productive in his war to protect our freedoms, like free speech. Logic like that is why we love you, Big Brother.

  102. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 9:53 am

    What a turn-up for the books: a big spending, big taxing Liberal party

    Except it’s not really a “turn-up for the books” is it. It’s a long history of the libs being big spenders, and Labor being spendthrift

    While the libs simultaneously cut services and Labor replace them, work THAT one out? OR, just WHO is the money being spent on?

    The Jap plants are old but these are not

    And your point being … we have to renew them ten times more regularly? And then still deal with the mess?

  103. December 17, 2015 9:56 am

    blubbering,,,,,,The Jap plants are old but,,,,,,,,but,but,but,but

    #if you want to lose money, invest in nukies at every opportunity, they need consumers `on-grid` to make money

    #HINT consumers will be `off-grid` in the not to distant future

  104. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 9:58 am

    says that free speech is counter-productive in his war to protect our freedoms, like free speech.

    Do you have a link to that, as I saw something in the oz this morning that wasn’t quite like that.

    He was basically saying that using the language of yabot etal is playing into the hands of the terrorists. I didn’t notice anything about “free speech”. But, I didn’t read it closely, as it is basically just what many have been saying for a long time.

    Telling people not to be stupid isn’t the same as stopping free speech. it’s just trying to stop them from looking stupid.

  105. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 17, 2015 10:20 am

    Not Whitlam, nor Keating, nor Rudd, nor Gillard ever taxed this high A big spending, big taxing Liberal party

    Koukoulas is insane. It used to be that the Howard tax cuts destroyed the budget. Now Koukoulas is saying we are being taxed higher than ever.

  106. Walrus permalink
    December 17, 2015 10:38 am

    “#HINT consumers will be `off-grid` in the not to distant future”

    Only if they are OK with having no power when the sun don’t shine

  107. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 10:46 am

    It used to be that the Howard tax cuts destroyed the budget. Now Koukoulas is saying we are being taxed higher than ever.

    Which brings me back to this

    “OR, just WHO is the money being spent on?”

  108. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 11:01 am

    Only if they are OK with having no power when the sun don’t shine

    It’s not like the massive advances in batteries hasn’t been shown to you.

  109. December 17, 2015 11:06 am

    blubbering,,,,,,,Only if they are OK with having no power when the sun don’t shine,,,,,,

    #denial?? we did this to death a few posts back #HINT `powerwall` #teabags

  110. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 17, 2015 11:13 am

    Shhhhhhh, Tom R. Don’t mention the war. Islam is a religion of peace. We need more duckspeak. Tony Abbott is doubleplusungood!

  111. Walrus permalink
    December 17, 2015 11:21 am

    “It’s not like the massive advances in batteries hasn’t been shown to you.”

    “#HINT `powerwall` ”

    ROFLMAO……………….now I kinda had an inkling your 2 dullards would write something like that…………………..

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2015/05/01/why-teslas-powerwall-is-just-another-toy-for-rich-green-people/

  112. TB Queensland permalink
    December 17, 2015 11:24 am

    It’s not like the massive advances in batteries hasn’t been shown to you.

    Its obvious that someone’s home but its also obvious they aren’t generating enough power for the lights to go on …

    You know when Wally has no real argument … when he resorts to what he thinks is a personal attack … just to throw you off the ball …

    Not my fault I spent 12 years in the wrong country …

    Wally didn’t have a choice if he was born in Australia … I did and glad I of it …

    Perhaps that’s why I appreciate the variety of people here … not just the rich and wearisome …

  113. Walrus permalink
    December 17, 2015 11:33 am

    “………………until groundhog day starts again at 11am”

    LOL………………..good morning TB………………….Welcome to Groundhog Day

  114. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 11:35 am

    Don’t mention the war.

    I hope you aren’t impinging on my freedoms there 😉

    why-teslas-powerwall-is-just-another-toy-for-rich-green-people/

    I’m going to guess that it is because it threatens their rich oiled up mates 😉

    OR

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2015/05/11/ok-so-maybe-teslas-powerwall-isnt-only-for-rich-green-people/

  115. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 11:38 am

    You know when Wally has no real argument … when he clicks the “Post Comment” button 🙂

  116. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 11:40 am

  117. December 17, 2015 11:59 am

    blubbering,,,,,,now I kinda had an inkling,,,,,

    #yeah, your forbes link may-2015, this in last few days,

    smh,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,CSR has expanded into home batteries, sealing an alliance with the world’s best-known battery maker, Tesla Energy, to sell the Powerwall system to Australian households through its Bradford division.

    Anthony Tannous, executive general manager of CSR Bradford, said the move to broaden the product range came after keen interest from home-building developers and directly from consumers and was a logical add-on to the company’s solar business.

    “This for us was a perfect fit,” he said. “We think there is going to be good interest in the new-home market, as well as the retrofit market.”

    CSR Bradford expected to charge “under $10,000” to supply and install a seven-kilowatt-hour Powerwall, with installations beginning in early 2016, Mr Tannous said. Advertisement

    A complete 4kWh solar PV system, with inverter and battery, could be installed for less than $15,000.,,,,,,,,,,

    #l too had an `inkling` some teabag would manage to cram his arse in his own mouth today:-)

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/energy/csr-in-tesla-energy-deal-to-sell-powerwall-20151213-glmqly.html

  118. Walrus permalink
    December 17, 2015 12:03 pm

    “CSR Bradford expected to charge “under $10,000” to supply and install a seven-kilowatt-hour Powerwall, with installations beginning in early 2016, Mr Tannous said.
    A complete 4kWh solar PV system, with inverter and battery, could be installed for less than $15,000.,,,,,,,,,, ”

    ROFLMAO @ YOU Bagz

    Oh Yeah…………..I’m sure plenty of peoples have a spare $10 to $15K stuck somewhere amongst the cracks in the couch

  119. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 12:09 pm

    I’m sure plenty of peoples have a spare $10 to $15K stuck somewhere amongst the cracks in the couch

    Well, if it is like us, you do maths, and see if what you will save in years to come on electricity prices that have been pushed up by corporate greed (not renewables) then it might make sense.

    Or, as with the panels (and with everything), they WILL get cheaper over time.

  120. December 17, 2015 12:13 pm

    blubbers,,,,,,,,ROFLMAO @ YOU Bagz,,,,,,

    #keep laughing, and think of me, every month when you pay`ya electric bill 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

  121. Walrus permalink
    December 17, 2015 12:16 pm

    So you dont think he is being a tad sarcastic in your link TomR………?

    “– Nerds who have the time and inclination to try to game the power grid by charging up their Powerwall with cheaper electricity at night, then selling the power back into the grid during the day when prices are higher.”

    LOL………………..Think about it ???????????????????

  122. TB Queensland permalink
    December 17, 2015 12:20 pm

    ROFLMAO……………….now I kinda had an inkling your 2 dullards would write something like that…………………..

    Dullards, hey?

    Three years ago I spent $6000 for a 3.5kW system to add to my existing 1kW … total 4.5kW … (down now to about $4000 – early adoption has its price … my original calculations before I retired came out to $24,000!!! Not viable)

    We have not paid an electricity bill in three years … in fact we have been paid for generating electricity … we now owe $130 on the system having amortised the cost with credit from the power company …

    Now that tells you that we can operate and store from a 4.5kW system … in fact you can calculate your usage using calculators on the interwebby … we require 3.7kW… anything over that is, at this stage, sent back to the grid … when we do finally go off grid the excess will be stored …

    All our security lighting is solar powered … even our xmas lights … and both garden sheds’ interior lights …

    Our home is completely lit by LED … including flouro replacement tubes …

    Yeah, dullards alright …

    … we never expect to pay for power again … any upgrades will be paid for by the PROFIT we make from our INVESTMENT …

    BTW, some of the figures used in the Forbes article are not only dodgy but relate to the USA, not Oz …

  123. TB Queensland permalink
    December 17, 2015 12:23 pm

    LOL………………..good morning TB………………….Welcome to Groundhog Day

    Not all of us sit around on our shiny silver spoons all day, Sir Walter …

    I’m retired not fkn retarded …

    I was picking a member of my family up at 6:30 this morning while you were still in bed blubbering …

  124. December 17, 2015 12:25 pm

    “”while you were still in bed blubbering …””

    Guffaw… 🙂

  125. TB Queensland permalink
    December 17, 2015 12:31 pm

    “– Nerds who have the time and inclination to try to game the power grid by charging up their Powerwall with cheaper electricity at night, then selling the power back into the grid during the day when prices are higher.”

    That’s about the only thing you’ve got right in the last two days … a record perhaps …

    No one is rushing out to buy a powerwall nor the system AGL has on offer … as long as the grid pays me (and of course I get a concession – learn the system and use it to your advantage) …

    But there will come a time when:

    ♦ Prices exceed my returns

    ♦ Battery efficiency improves (there are a number of breakthroughs close in speed and capacity

    ♦ Battery costs reduce

  126. Walrus permalink
    December 17, 2015 12:40 pm

    “I was picking a member of my family up at 6:30 this morning while you were still in bed blubbering …”

    WRONG !

    I was here at 5:30am this morning http://www.anytimefitness.com.au/ (that’s me in the greentop)

    And at 6:30 I was readin’ da paper (the Oz of course) sitting with my hounds having a cappucino at the local coffee shop overlooking the Tasman Sea

  127. December 17, 2015 1:03 pm

    blubbering,,,,,,I was readin` da paper (the Oz of course),,,,,,,

    #1.reading limited-news `and` 2.not learning a damn thing

    #l wonder if there is any `connection`:-)

  128. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 1:04 pm

    I was readin’ da paper (the Oz of course)

    that can be read?

    So you dont think he is being a tad sarcastic in your link

    “I’m going to guess that it is because it threatens their rich oiled up mates”

    I think he is beaing a ‘tad’ sarcastic in both

  129. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 1:07 pm

    I see the nasty unions are “blackmailing” struggling business owners again

    One of Sydney’s biggest cleaning companies has been accused of systematic underpayment of international students. But the company says it’s the victim of union blackmail over an unsigned new agreement.

    ……..

    Cheeravit is not the only cleaner claiming to be underpaid by BIC. On Friday, the union took the company to the Federal Court with claims of breaches of the Fair Work Act.

    http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2015/s4374002.htm

  130. Walrus permalink
    December 17, 2015 1:17 pm

    “One of Sydney’s biggest cleaning companies has been accused of systematic underpayment of international students.”

    Exploitation of cleaners ?

    Is Bill Shorten advising the Company ?

  131. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 1:29 pm

    Is Bill Shorten advising the Company ?

    Another exhibit of just why #turc was set up, to promulgate bullshit.

  132. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 1:38 pm

    Who to believe?

    The Australian Taxation Office has cut 4400 jobs in the past 19 months with one staff member telling a Senate hearing many of them were “our go-to” people.

    On Thursday, the Community and Public Sector Union told the hearing into corporate tax avoidance Australia’s tax collection would be hurt by the workforce reduction – a contrary line to the ATO’s official view.

    Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/public-service/australian-taxation-office-axes-4400-jobs-in-19-months-20150409-1mhhgq.html#ixzz3uXdiNEPM
    Follow us: @canberratimes on Twitter | CanberraTimes on Facebook

    Considering this

    And, thanks to a link from Ben Eltham, this little line caught my eye

    As the legislation does not allow for the reporting of an amount of zero or less these fields are left blank.

    https://data.gov.au/dataset/corporate-transparency/resource/237d7ede-3a63-4b9b-9434-2f79b9d70ce8?view_id=be58448a-dbf9-41af-9e20-7e9ee2796633

    Well, I’m pretty interested in the “less”. Didn’t newscorpse get “less” a couple of years ago after re-arranging their business model after their business model got busted bugging a dead girls phone for profit purposes?

    In other words, it is even “less” tax (from “them”) than we can see.

  133. Walrus permalink
    December 17, 2015 1:44 pm

    “On Thursday, the Community and Public Sector Union told the hearing into corporate tax avoidance Australia’s tax collection would be hurt by the workforce reduction ….”

    Yeah…….its not as though they have a vested interest in keeping a fat and lazy public service afloat

  134. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 1:45 pm

    Bloody filthy leftist think tank their abc is!

  135. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 1:47 pm

    its not as though they have a vested interest in keeping a fat and lazy public service afloat

    Another way of phrasing that could be “its not as though they have a vested interest in making sure there is a check on unscrupulous accountants gaming the system”

    After all, cushioned chairs won’t spin themselves

  136. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2015 2:36 pm

    key emphasis here on the “as Labor planned” bit 😉

  137. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 17, 2015 2:45 pm

    key emphasis here on the “as Labor planned” bit

    http://www.budget.gov.au/2012-13/content/speech/html/speech.htm

    The four years of surpluses I announce tonight are a powerful endorsement of the strength of our economy, resilience of our people, and success of our policies.

    In an uncertain and fast‑changing world, we walk tall — as a nation confidently living within its means.

    This Budget delivers a surplus this coming year, on time, as promised, and surpluses each year after that, strengthening over time.

    Wayne Swan May 2012

  138. Walrus permalink
    December 17, 2015 3:52 pm

    “as Labor planned”

    Yeah…………….didn’t Swan announce we’d be in surplus >500 times and never delivered one

    Now that really got the tears going as I ROFLMAO.

    Yeah…..instead that filfthy fucking halfwit Gillard lumped the nation with unfunded promises.

    What c**t of a leader she was !

  139. TB Queensland permalink
    December 17, 2015 4:27 pm

    WRONG !

    Actually I was …

    Just because you BS … green top indeed!

    I was here at 5:30am this morning http://www.anytimefitness.com.au/ (that’s me in the greentop)

    And at 6:30 I was readin’ da paper (the Oz of course) sitting with my hounds having a cappucino at the local coffee shop overlooking the Tasman Sea

    Like I said!

  140. TB Queensland permalink
    December 17, 2015 4:49 pm

    Yeah…….its not as though they have a vested interest in keeping a fat and lazy public service afloat

    The people that keep tax avoiding cheats from cheating … take ’em away and what happens?

    Now that really got the tears going as I ROFLMAO.

    One day we’ll just forget to call 000!

    Yeah…..instead that filfthy fucking halfwit Gillard lumped the nation with unfunded promises.

    What c**t of a leader she was !

    I guess that shiny spoon up your arse really, really hurts at times … Abbott’s dick must have been so soft a floppy!

    You’re* still whinging and your* lot have been in control government for over TWO FKN YEARS!

    Grumpy? You are the epitome of grumpy, greedy and grandiloquent !

    (Disclaimer: I was never a fan of Prime Minister Gillard … but the alternatives are obviously pretty disgusting!)

    * Fer ToM

  141. TB Queensland permalink
    December 17, 2015 5:02 pm

    Shhhhhhh, Tom R. Don’t mention the war. Islam is a religion of peace. We need more duckspeak. Tony Abbott is doubleplusungood!

    WTF are you on, sb …

    To speak rubbish and lies may be ungood, but to speak rubbish and lies for the good of “The Party” may be good

    doubleplusungood — The make-up of this word is as follows:
    doubleplus – as opposed to just ‘plus’, which would mean ‘really’
    ungood – opposite of ‘good’, or ‘bad’

    What fkn nonsense … you do know that 1984 is fiction …

    Is this the country you want Australia to become?

    Leave me and mine out of your religious hatred …

    http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/new-breed-of-white-supremacists-in-us/news-story/0fca2e441715d5d1ca0a71cb0c780af8

  142. Walrus permalink
    December 17, 2015 5:21 pm

    “Actually I was … ”

    COMPREHENSION 101………………..it was directed at you describing me as “blubbering’ beneath the sheets. Not whether you were for once in a decade up early.

  143. TB Queensland permalink
    December 17, 2015 8:03 pm

    Oh an attempt at … something humorous …

    Gurney Slade, revisited …

    Wonder if, sreb remembers …?

  144. December 18, 2015 8:45 am

    l hope all the east-coast dumb-fcuks are enjoying their weather of `record-lows`, `total-esky-bans` and several days of blizzards #teabags

    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-17/summer-heat-spell-grips-much-of-south-australia/7037720

  145. Walrus permalink
    December 18, 2015 9:15 am

    “l hope all the east-coast dumb-fcuks are enjoying their weather………”

    Absolutely !

    Gazing out over the water as I speak thinking ………

    “You know what ?………..fuck this client estate planning stuff it can wait until next week …………..I might just head down to the golden sands soon and enjoy the day”

  146. December 18, 2015 9:43 am

    watch the talking-head feminista continue to demand `quotas`, while they ignore (yet-again) the women that do make it to the top are usually as crap or corrupt as the blokes, even at the `international` level, #HINT quotas won`t solve any other problem

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/international-monetary-fund-chief-christine-lagarde-to-face-french-trial-over-tapie-affair-20151217-glqfc1.html

  147. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 18, 2015 10:43 am

    …watch the talking-head feminista continue to demand `quotas`, while they ignore (yet-again) the women that do make it to the top are usually as crap or corrupt as the blokes, even at the `international` level, #HINT quotas won`t solve any other problem…

    So that is the reason that women should be held back in wages, top jobs and boardrooms? Because they will become as corrupt as men? Well it’s not for men to make a moral argument against women when they refuse to have morals applied to themselves.

    Sounds like a pretty crap argument for maintaining the status quo. Why shouldn’t women be given the same opportunities as men to succeed, whatever the outcome?

    However, with more women in the boardrooms, they have a better chance of changing the prevailing culture of cosy ‘men’s rules’ if they are inclined to do so, rather than continuing the same behaviour. They can do zilch if they’re not included.

  148. December 18, 2015 11:04 am

    coffee-wreckage,,,,,,,,,,,,,,The crash occurred just metres from the Lygon Street milk bar where Mr Shorten clashed with shop keeper Annie Huang over a ”soft” meat pie,

    after he mistakenly believed she had criticised Julia Gillard.,,,,,,,#guffaw

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/bill-shorten-delayed-reporting-carlton-car-crash/news-story/aa81b3f1f539917163b06890f589419d?nk=b31045b441f235766193933503726543-1450395989

  149. TB Queensland permalink
    December 18, 2015 11:08 am

    Sounds like a pretty crap argument for maintaining the status quo.

    Absofknlutely!

  150. TB Queensland permalink
    December 18, 2015 11:12 am

    … .fuck this client estate planning stuff it can wait until next week …

    That says so much … :/

  151. TB Queensland permalink
    December 18, 2015 11:23 am

    Australians are getting older …

    Data from the Bureau of Statistics shows Australia’s population is continuing to age

    You don’t fkn say!!!

    Chuckle …

    The main contributor has been growth in the population aged 65 and over.

    Chuckle … and when did WWII end again?? How long have we known this???

    Ah… dear …

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/abs-survey-finds-an-ageing-australia-and-jumps-in-victoria-queensland-populations-20151217-glppkc.html

  152. December 18, 2015 11:25 am

    ao,,,,,,with more women in the boardrooms, they have a better chance of changing the prevailing culture,,,,,,,

    #l was thinking `politics`

    ,,,,,with more women in POWER##, they have a better chance of changing the prevailing culture,,,,,

    #except the evidence doesn`t stack-up, what the evidence of history does show, is the same type of corrupt-critter is attracted, and behaves just as bad

    #take a look at the teabags, the well entrenched, entitled, arrogant bronny-copter has trained-up joolee rather well in the `flights` department

    #likewise condi-rice was up to her neck in george-w`s bullshit based war

    #the unmarried atheist woman didin`t support single-mums, gay-marriage or voluntary-euthanasia and was a complete teabag

  153. December 18, 2015 11:41 am

    ao,,,,,,crap argument for maintaining the status quo,,,,,,,#wrong

    # I SAID,,,,

    ,,,,,#HINT quotas won`t solve any other problem,,,,,

    #when the trough-snouts are gobbling from the taxpayer funded trough, going a long and counting the quantity of `nads` and quantity of vaginas beneath the curly tails and making sure there is an equal number, just won`t solve any other problem the nation has

    #and when it comes to the `status-quo` of the taxpayer funded trough, l would like to see the quantity of items in the trough reduced, and the amount of time feeding at the trough reduced, but the type of critter attracted to the `trough` will never allow that, no matter what is under the curly-tail.

  154. December 18, 2015 1:50 pm

    age,,,,,,,,,,,,Over the past five years alone, 477 respondents said they had been sexually harassed by colleagues, with up to 10 saying they were victims of serious sexual assaults, including rape.

    But data from Victoria Police revealed that only 12 officers had been disciplined since 2010 over harassment or predatory behaviour, revealing a shameful culture of coercion, cover-ups and silence.,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victoria-police-commissioner-graham-ashton-pledges-compensation-for-victims-of-sexual-harassment-assault-within-the-force-20151208-gliwqb.html

    #when the system is clearly misogynistic, particularly in boltsville, yet the feminista of boltsville are mia (yet-again) or trailing the topic, really, how the fcuk are female vic-plod meant to help women in domestics when they`re unable to enforce their own work-rights, where is the plod-onion and talking-heads

  155. December 18, 2015 2:00 pm

    my-abc,,,,,,,,,A female road construction worker subjected to assaults, sexual harassment, bullying and rape threats at a Melbourne workplace,,,,,,,,,,,

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-17/female-construction-worker-awarded-1.3m-sexual-harassment/7039062

    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,tried very hard to bring the behaviour to her employer’s attention, but her complaints were “laughed off”,,,,,,,,,,

    #there is a problem in boltsville, yet those feminista talking-heads don`t seem to help much

  156. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 18, 2015 2:12 pm

    #except the evidence doesn`t stack-up, what the evidence of history does show, is the same type of corrupt-critter is attracted, and behaves just as bad

    Exactly my point, so why is it corrupt-critter women are excluded from the men’s corruption club?

  157. December 18, 2015 2:41 pm

    lf the parliament is going to enforce `quotas` the 50/50ish fe/male is a `not-much` target, that even if it happened would produce a `not-much` result.

    A better `quota` to enforce would be `social and financial demographic`, which would actually represent society better than just genitals. From memory 3%-gay, 3%-aboriginal, 79%-working-class, a percentage for taxpaying business (no representation without taxation) etc

    #and yeah sure, my 79% working class could end-up all women and fine by me, but just ensuring both teams of zombies are half (or-more) women is a `not-much` idea to me

  158. December 18, 2015 2:52 pm

    Exactly my point, so why is it corrupt-critter women are excluded from the men’s corruption club?

    #l somewhat disagree with this, the democrates had a lot of women in charge/leaders, l don`t know the membership numbers/demographics, or whether `quotas` existed, before they imploded, but they did have corrupt-critter women, getting their go at the `trough`:-)

  159. TB Queensland permalink
    December 18, 2015 4:33 pm

    Australia wins Singapore case against tobacco Robber Barons … plain packaging will continue … and looks like other countries too … France, UK, Canada, Ireland …

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/dec/18/australia-wins-international-legal-battle-with-philip-morris-over-plain-packaging

  160. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 18, 2015 6:22 pm

    “Sounds like a pretty crap argument for maintaining the status quo.

    All the arguments are pretty crap – it’s the specialty of that source of non stop crap.

    ,,,,,#### as well as ###,, and “””””””””

  161. Tony permalink
    December 18, 2015 7:04 pm

    Still the same few bickering about the same old shit.

    This really has become a very boring place.

    The 2003 original.

    The 2015 version.

  162. December 18, 2015 7:06 pm

    Oops. This is the official video for the 2015 version.

  163. December 18, 2015 7:08 pm

    Haha. No it isn’t. This is.

  164. December 18, 2015 7:31 pm

  165. December 18, 2015 7:34 pm

  166. December 18, 2015 7:36 pm

    I’m giving youse the benefit of my impeccable taste in music. You’re welcome.

  167. December 18, 2015 7:38 pm

  168. December 18, 2015 7:39 pm

  169. December 18, 2015 7:43 pm

  170. December 18, 2015 7:43 pm

    No, don’t thank me.

  171. December 18, 2015 7:44 pm

  172. December 18, 2015 7:52 pm

    “This is fucking awesome.”

  173. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 18, 2015 7:54 pm

    Tony is Nasking?

  174. December 18, 2015 7:58 pm

    Yes. A non-insane version.

  175. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 18, 2015 8:05 pm

    So, does that mean posting music videos isn’t you “professsion”?

  176. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 18, 2015 8:06 pm

    hmmm –
    “your profession”

    TB might be on the job, but he’s correct me – “you’re…”

  177. December 18, 2015 8:07 pm

    Nasking’s profession was blog-pest. You and reb cost him his job. Bastards!

  178. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 18, 2015 8:29 pm

    I was all reb’s fault. I had nothing to do with it, if people had listened to me, Nasking would still be posting here. Along with scaper and Catching Up.

  179. December 18, 2015 8:40 pm

    I know. It’s a crying shame.

  180. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 18, 2015 8:46 pm

    Yes. reb teased them.

    He’s teased others too, but Nasking, scaper and Catching Up were the types of contributors that don’t turn up very often.

    Scaper was very important (apparently)

  181. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 18, 2015 8:49 pm

    I hear scaper was at one of those important political dinners.

    Gina spoke to him. She said – “go fetch my car”

  182. December 18, 2015 8:50 pm

    There may have been some banning along with the teasing.

  183. December 18, 2015 9:01 pm

  184. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 18, 2015 9:02 pm

    Could be. Only nice people.are banned from blogs (in my experience)

    Remember when Nasking was banned at Miglos place and then he posted some very amusing emails around the blogs!

    Those were the days.

  185. December 18, 2015 9:16 pm

    Yes, Yes they were.

  186. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 18, 2015 9:30 pm

    I believe everyone has done very well for themselves. Miglo now has his own blog!

  187. December 18, 2015 9:45 pm

    That’s nice.

  188. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 18, 2015 9:51 pm

  189. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 18, 2015 9:52 pm

  190. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2015 12:02 am

    Tony is Nasking?

    Read my mind!!!!

    Still the same few bickering about the same old shit.

    This really has become a very boring place.

    The 2003 original.

    So you post the same old shite!

    You have a choice … engage or …

    TB might be on the job, but he’s correct me – “you’re…”

    You bet you are … you bet I am!

    You and reb cost him his job

    Nah … ’twere sreb and me, I ‘ve got the “accusation” somewhere …

    BTW, ToM I’ve never been “on the job” … I’m too pretty … 🙂

    … but Nasking, scaper and Catching Up were the types of contributors that don’t turn up very often.

    … and others we could name! 😉

    I believe everyone has done very well for themselves. Miglo now has his own blog

    No?

    Does Nasking have a blog? He was so professional …

  191. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2015 12:23 am

    As an aside … one of the things Nasking never told anyone was that while he joined Migs and Min to strat up Café Whispers … he specifically insisted that they not to tell me about it …

    I’ve got the emails from Migs telling me so …

    Dontcha luv karma …

    Oh, the tangled webs we wove a decade ago …

    Onward and upward say I … and fuck the past, for ’tis gone forever!

  192. December 19, 2015 12:39 am

    guardian,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,The Greens senator Peter Whish-Wilson said Australia had “dodged a bullet” because of the jurisdictional ruling, but kept signing trade deals that gave corporations “the right to sue us for making laws that might impinge on a foreign corporation’s profits”.

    Whish-Wilson renewed his concerns about the 12-country Trans Pacific Partnership and said such clauses were “the Damocles Sword hanging over Australia’s sovereignty and our right to legislate in the public interest”.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    #suck it up teabags

    #going beyond the `self-abuse` of baccy, will team-nanny-roxon have the nads to apply military-grade packaging to booze, kentucky-duck, krusty-burger and supermarket junk-food tho #yaay.team

    ,,,,,,,cannot stand in the way of public health measures,,,,,,,

  193. December 19, 2015 12:56 am

    “Scaper was very important (apparently)”

    He likely still believes that self-perpetuant internet meme?

    I missed tosy by 24hrs, apparently.

    Anyone else on a star wars trip right now? …in spite of the disneytastic marketing campaign?

    Happy to not just show up and argue; when I am able.

    Vladimir loves Donald…whodathunkit?!

  194. December 19, 2015 1:02 am

    “Yes. A non-insane version.”

    Immeasurably more ‘non-insane’.

    Far less demonstrably prone (almost to the point of absolute negation) to emotive outbursts too; which is the measure of a rational person (whilst recognising that we all have our moments).

    Snacty fled (or was crushed under the not inconsiderable weight of child raising).ToSY stuck around until he became the target of opportunity.

  195. December 19, 2015 1:06 am

    guardian,,,,,,,,,,,,,The foreign affairs minister, Julie Bishop, and the trade minister, Andrew Robb, said the government was committed to defending the international challenges because the plain packaging laws were “an important and legitimate measure” designed to protect public health.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    #watch the teabags oppose team-nanny-roxon in the future (if they go after booze, kentucky-duck, etc with military-grade packaging)

  196. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 19, 2015 11:10 am

    Not that they would vote for anyone but a liberal

    Tony Abbott should go, say most voters in his electorate: poll
    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-should-go-say-most-voters-in-his-electorate-poll-20151218-glqto3.html#ixzz3uiixd1qC

  197. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 19, 2015 11:28 am

    Tony Abbott should go, say most voters in his electorate: poll

    Why do you people keep mentioning this guys name?

  198. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2015 11:48 am

    Nah … ’twere sreb and me, I ‘ve got the “accusation” somewhere …

    Correction … checked this morning ToM gets a mention … I’d forgotten just how delusional Fluffy Bear was … dated Mar 2011.

    The Bear is full bore at sreb, migs, min, adrian, ToM, me …

    It actually reminded me of just how childish the whole thing was …

  199. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 19, 2015 12:20 pm

    Why do you people keep mentioning this guys name?

    Because he’s still there.

    And he’s keeping himself in the news with his sniping, backgrounding and white anting in order to mount a coup on turnbull.

    C’mon neil, the public has had more than enough of him, go abbott, just go and leave us in peace.

  200. December 19, 2015 12:21 pm

    fairfax,,,,,,At least three Melbourne Airport workers were suspended – and a security guard has lost his job – as a result of the botched security screening of Foreign Minister Julie Bishop.

    Fairfax Media can reveal the Turnbull government played a direct role in forcing the airport’s investigation into the departure gate debacle, despite the repeated insistence of Ms Bishop’s office that “no official complaint” was made.,,,,,,,

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/julie-bishop-screening-worker-sacked-after-government-questions-airport-20151218-glqw1r.html

    Ms Bishop was singled out to be scanned on her way through Melbourne Airport to New York on September 22.

    ,,,,,,,,Workers at the screening position were later suspended amid evidence their selection of the Foreign Minister was `not random` and therefore breached airport security protocol.,,,,,

    #of course it was `not-random`, ya`need a `burka` for it to be `random`, preferably the `letter-box` model

    #but wait, l know you want more!

    ,,,,,,,,,,,,The female worker who conducted the scan was found to have “not adhered to standard security screening procedures” but has since been reinstated after undergoing further procedural and customer service training.

    But the male co-worker who instructed her to screen Ms Bishop has been sacked.

    Melbourne Airport said in a statement: “A male ISS worker’s employment was terminated as a result of not adhering to standard security screening as required at an Australian international airport.”

    It is understood that a third worker, a woman, at the same position was also stood down as the matter was investigated.

    The sacked worker initially sought advice on an unfair dismissal action, but is believed to have reached a financial settlement with the airport that may have included a confidentiality agreement, a source close to the disciplinary process said.

    He was covering in the screening position for a fellow worker who needed a bathroom break when he recognised the Foreign Minister, a regular VIP through the airport.

    During the investigation, the man was told that Ms Bishop had felt `uncomfortable` at his presence in the screening.,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    # l don`t fly, but l do wonder if other folks have to suck-it-up when/if they feel `uncomfortable`, and do airport-staff lose their jobs when those other folks complain about feeling `uncomfortable` #yaay.zombies

  201. December 19, 2015 12:30 pm

    Over at my abc,

    age,,,,,,,,,The ABC will defy Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull by refusing to split the roles of managing director and editor-in-chief,,,,,,,,,,

    http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/abc-to-defy-malcolm-turnbull-on-editorinchief-split-20151218-glqvux.html

    age,,,,,,,,,,,,Turnbull’s proposal is seen as a step too far within the ABC, because the head of the organisation will always be ultimately responsible for the material it broadcasts. The ABC is also wary of being seen to be dictated to by the government on such a change,,,,,,,,,,

    #same can of crap under the talkbull zombie, the teabags are still trying to mangle my abc #fcuk.the.teabags

  202. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 19, 2015 12:38 pm

    C’mon neil, the public has had more than enough of him, go abbott, just go and leave us in peace.

    You want Abbott to leave because he is dangerous to your cause.

    Turncott however is much more easy to manipulate by lefties.

  203. December 19, 2015 12:48 pm

    AO,,,,,,,,,go abbott, just go and leave us in peace,,,,,,,,,,,

    #Nah, fcuk that! .. l hope the rabbit sticks around and gives talkbull the `nbn-treatment`, and inspire lots hope against the shiny new copper-class leader, only to have their souls crushed when the electorate dumps the rabbit .. share the misery:-)

    #(we can only hope blib`s electorate wakes-up to themselves too)

  204. December 19, 2015 1:10 pm

    THE DAILY BLIB !!

    BILL Shorten’s approval rating has sunk to an all-time low of 14%, but all is not lost. He is still more popular than unfurling toilet paper from the back of the roll (by a single percentage point) according to a survey of bathroom habits released last month.

    Considering the list of things that have him trumped, he should take any positive affirmation available at this point. Stuff more popular than Bill Shorten includes…

    SADISM

    A 2008 survey found 30% of Brits admitted deriving pleasure from other people’s misfortune. That explains One Direction’s popularity, then.

    GEORGE W. BUSH

    Even at his lowest point, the 43rd president of the United States had an approval rating of 22%. Not bad for a semi- literate warmonger who, in a Freudian slip, once boasted the country’s enemies “never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we”.

    PEEING IN THE SHOWER

    If you are not already doing it, chances are someone in your house is. The same survey of 1000 Americans that told us about the dunny roll habits found a whopping 61% of men and women had no issue making their bladder gladder while rinsing their armpits.

    BECOMING A TEEN MUM

    A study run by the statistically reputable Tyra Banks Show revealed one in five of the 10,000 young girl respondents actually wanted to be a teenage mother.

    BRUSSELS SPROUTS

    Heinz asked folks about their most hated vegetables and found those crunchy green balls of boredom had an approval rating of 61%. That is four times higher than Shorten.

    ROBOT SEX

    Not sure if the Brits are just a tad weird, but apparently one in five would indulge in a bit of how’s your father with a lifelike robot if the chance arose. If you believe the 2014 survey of 2000 people, it truly gives new meaning to the term “sex machine”. And Silicon Valley, come to think of it.

    FLAWED HISTORY

    The Australian Academy of Science’s 2013 report card of the country’s science literacy uncovered some fairly damning stuff. For instance, 27% of us think humans and dinosaurs lived side by side. For which I blame the tremendous ’90s cartoon Dino-Riders, in which humans did battle while riding on the backs of large scaly beasts strapped with laser guns and missiles. I thought it was a documentary.

    GEOCENTRISM

    The idea of heliocentrism – that the earth revolves around the sun – has been fairly well accepted for a while now. Copernicus came up with the first geometric model for it in the 16th century, and clever ducks like Kepler and Galileo built on the theory. But the National Science Foundation’s study of 2200 people found 26% still believed the sun revolved around the earth in 2012.

    SURVEY RESULTS

    Perhaps most damning, even the dubious statistics relied on for this column are more popular than Bill Shorten. Data investment company Kantar conducted a poll in 2013 that found 19% of people believed surveys were not biased.

    http://www.northernstar.com.au/news/nine-things-more-popular-than-bill-shorten/2876801/

    #yaaaay.blib

  205. December 19, 2015 3:57 pm

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  206. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2015 5:15 pm

    You want Abbott to leave because he is dangerous to your cause.

    I prefer that he stay … ’cause he’s dangerous to the Liberal Party cause … 😉

  207. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2015 5:43 pm

    Closed office stops card delivery

    Workers hoping to deliver more than 2000 Christmas cards to a Tasmanian MP calling on the prime minister to protect weekend penalty pay rates have been unable to drop off their mail as the MP’s office was closed for the weekend.

    Nurses, carers, disability support and aged-care workers as well as those in the retail and hospitality sector went to the office of Bass MP Andrew Nikolic on Saturday to deliver the cards with the message “Merry Christmas? Mr Turnbull, Don’t be a Scrooge. Protect Penalty Rates.”

    It was shut and the letters couldn’t be delivered, but the group is planning to return to the office during the week, Unions Tasmania spokesman Adam Clarke told AAP.

    Mr Nikolic previously said he supported a reduction in workers’ weekend pay.

    The productivity commission will release its full report into the workplace relations system next week.

    The draft report recommended cutting Sunday penalty rates.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/tas-mp-to-get-2000-payprotest-cards/news-story/8e9d6b4ca7423e2c319592ee4708de7f

    Bio.

    https://www.google.com.au/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=ZPx0Vq3zLafu8wf6t6f4CQ&gws_rd=ssl#newwindow=1&q=andrew+nikolic

  208. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 19, 2015 6:27 pm

    Closed office stops card delivery

    I think that is the point some people are trying to make. Penalty rates stops some people from opening.

    I was listening to the radio and some business guy was saying he does not mind paying time and a half but he cannot afford double time for Sunday so he does not open.

  209. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2015 6:54 pm

    o_O

    Amazing insight, Kneel …

    You’ll love these …

  210. Tony permalink
    December 19, 2015 7:26 pm

    Fuck youse all.

    Russian writer Garshin by Russian painter Repin.

  211. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2015 7:37 pm

    Fuck youse all.

    Why thanks, Tony of South Yarra … 🙂

  212. December 19, 2015 7:48 pm

    Dr Pozzi At Home, John Singer Sargent, 1881.

  213. December 19, 2015 7:56 pm

    Rembrandt selfie, 1660.

  214. December 19, 2015 8:00 pm

    Old Stables, Frederick McCubbin, 1884.

  215. December 19, 2015 8:03 pm

    Rouen Cathedral, Monet, 1894.

  216. December 19, 2015 8:22 pm

    Selfie, Anders Zorn, 1915.

  217. December 19, 2015 8:36 pm

    Hilaire Rene de Gas, Edgar Degas,1857.

  218. December 19, 2015 8:48 pm

    Self Portrait in White Jacket, Hugh Ramsay, 1902.

    http://content.ngv.vic.gov.au/retrieve.php?size=1280&type=image&vernonID=70432

  219. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 19, 2015 10:52 pm

    The culture vulture is back – and not a moment too soon I say 😉

    I think that is the point some people are trying to make. Penalty rates stops some people from opening.

    Very obtuse neil, I thought the point they were making was that the office was closed on a week-end, funny that.

    You know, practice what you preach, hypocrite!

    No-one is stopping people from opening at all, unless they somehow think they are owed a living just because they have a business.
    Are there enough customers for all these cafes that are just bursting to open their doors on week-ends or do they just want to drive all wages in the country down, starting at the bottom and working up [except for themselves of course, they would be pocketing the difference].

  220. December 20, 2015 8:59 am

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  221. December 20, 2015 12:24 pm

    Sunshine, lollipops`n rainbows everywhere

    ever since `talcum` took the leadership l hear

  222. TB Queensland permalink
    December 20, 2015 2:01 pm

    http://www.news.com.au/travel/world-travel/europe/norway-is-the-best-place-to-live-on-earth-what-can-we-learn-from-this-scandinavian-beauty/news-story/ef902b59d8a1d3beb4e80e778132b077

    I think the Norwegians got rid of Robber Barons a couple of centuries ago … apart from the silly concept of a king a Coy. …

    Australia has a monarch half a world away full of non taxpaying leaners … and we so many Robber Barons you could carpet Canberra with them!

    Reading the article above its a no-brainer … get rid of the leaners … and lift the whole bloody country!

  223. December 20, 2015 4:05 pm

    bananaland,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I think the Norwegians got rid of Robber Barons a couple of centuries ago … apart from the silly concept of a king a Coy. …

    Australia has a monarch half a world away full of non taxpaying leaners … and we so many Robber Barons you could carpet Canberra with them!

    Reading the article above its a no-brainer … get rid of the leaners … and lift the whole bloody country!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    #Wow! that`s a great effort of trying to link unrelated clap-trap

    #could it be that norway has a govt that puts nation and citizens first, not corporations, unlike both teams in canberra

    #and as ya`thru in the repug aspect, take a look at rebs tweet-link 2 comments above

    #yaay.repug.leader

  224. TB Queensland permalink
    December 20, 2015 7:48 pm

    #Wow! that`s a great effort of trying to link unrelated clap-trap

    #could it be that norway has a govt that puts nation and citizens first, not corporations, unlike both teams in canberra

    WoW! Thanks for the clarification, tbagz… never thought of that … wonderful comment … and here I am just struggling with claptrap … sorry about “”” ..the Norwegians got rid of Robber Barons a couple of centuries ago “”” … maybe that’s why the Norwegian government got rid of the Robber Barons, hey?

    Y’know “bananaland” thinking, an’ all …

    Really looking forward to your next original comment … keep up the good work! 😉 *

  225. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 20, 2015 8:10 pm
  226. Tony permalink
    December 20, 2015 9:34 pm

    Eaglemont, Arthur Streeton, 1889.

  227. December 20, 2015 9:42 pm

    The Purple Moon’s Transparent Light, Arthur Streeton, 1896.

  228. December 20, 2015 10:11 pm

    Is there a point to all of this….?

  229. Princess Harriet permalink
    December 20, 2015 11:23 pm

    Is there a point to all of this….?

    A Denial of Service attack? It takes SO long to load all of the images Tony is posting, people give up and go elsewhere.

  230. Tom R permalink
    December 21, 2015 8:05 am

    Still the same few bickering about the same old shit.

    This really has become a very boring place.

    It’s a cryin’ shame aint it tosy.

    At least you pop in from time to time to liven the place up with some kulcha 😉

    Is there a point to all of this….?

    He’s simply providing a lead in for MORE spam 😉

  231. Tom R permalink
    December 21, 2015 8:11 am

    I also hear along the vine of grapes that the oo actually got a story right last week. It appears that the head of ASIO WAS playing politics when he warned yabot etal to perhaps tone down the rhetoric. Word is, that came from malcayman himself.

    So, we have another pm using our security agencies for their own political ends.

    Yes, it appears, we have come Full Circle tosy 😦

    The country is led again by an empty vessel

    Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull came, he saw – and was upstaged by an innovative Japanese robot that displayed surprising agility.

    Read more: http://www.afr.com/news/politics/malcolm-turnbulls-tokyo-dash-lays-down-markers-20151220-glrvnf#ixzz3uthEaOKP

    malcayman, slayer of fibres!

  232. Tom R permalink
    December 21, 2015 8:26 am

    It is amusing watching the oo attack turnbull for having the temerity to replace their Chosen One against their wishes. It’s like watching the Labor years all over again, the oo gettin all tanty on the pm, except, in this instance, they have a point. Of course, they are completely oblivious (or not) that yabot had the same tendency to use our security forces for his own political purposes. Which makes shananas bile even more hilarious.

    Malcolm Turnbull should sort out this incredibly messy business of misusing ASIO to enforce political uniformity on the coalition. He should make some statement about the non-political nature of the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation and he should equally make it clear he welcomes respectful but wide debate about all aspects of extremism and terrorism.

    This has been a remarkably untidy episode by Turnbull, but it also signals deeper problems, especially an uncertainty, a lack of instinctive touch and feel by the Prime Minister for security issues.

    Tactically, it has been a shambles. Consider what might loosely be described as the official narrative. The PM, you understand, never asked ASIO director-general Duncan Lewis to ring any Liberal politicians to tell them to toe the PM’s line on Islam.

    Lewis and the backbencher, Andrew Hastie, were well-known to each other — so the apologists for Lewis’s extraordinary actions attest — so an admonishing phone call from the former to the latter was absolutely routine.

    Imagine the ASIO director-general’s surprise when he couldn’t find Hastie’s number.

    Who to ask? The Prime Minister, of course; it’s not as if he has anything else to do with his time.

    So the PM texted Hastie’s number to Lewis so Lewis could ring Hastie and tell him to fall into line. But this, you understand, does not constitute the PM asking the ASIO chief to ring Hastie.

    This has been an incredibly clumsy and unwieldy episode, poorly handled by Turnbull and Lewis. At his press conference in Tokyo, Turnbull was left arguing that because Lewis was a former general, and had actually fought against terrorists, people should not disagree with him. Really?

    The PM was really evoking the moral authority of khaki to settle a political argument?

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/greg-sheridan/pms-khaki-moment-a-bad-look/news-story/968e429f4cd93cd724f6228d5fe1e384

    Cos heaven forbid that yabot would ever “evoke the moral authority of khaki to settle a political argument” 😉

  233. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 21, 2015 9:40 am

    I think Princess Harriet can F*** OFF! Just as a matter of my opinion.

  234. TB Queensland permalink
    December 21, 2015 10:25 am

    Is there a point to all of this….?

    Artistic hacking?

  235. TB Queensland permalink
    December 21, 2015 10:30 am

    malcayman, slayer of fibres!

    Copper Man?

    NonFibre Man?

    Copper Con Man?

    Smiley Fuckwit?

    I like the last one …

  236. TB Queensland permalink
    December 21, 2015 10:32 am

    Lewis and the backbencher, Andrew Hastie, were well-known to each other — so the apologists for Lewis’s extraordinary actions attest — so an admonishing phone call from the former to the latter was absolutely routine.

    Mmmm … didn’t take Hastie long to get involved in the shite, hey?

    I think Princess Harriet can F*** OFF! Just as a matter of my opinion.

    Although Harriet purports to be a princess (sarcastically or otherwise) I do believe she’s right …

  237. Tom R permalink
    December 21, 2015 10:40 am

    I like the last one …

    The last one is more apt, as tax payers plough more money into a failed private enterprise instead of investing in our countries future. and all at the hand of ‘teaman” malcayman.

  238. Tom R permalink
    December 21, 2015 10:43 am

    And fer tosy, in order to perhaps keep him mildy interested in the goings on here in the blog of circular blogs 😉

    https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/explore-the-collection

  239. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 21, 2015 10:56 am

    Mmmm … didn’t take Hastie long to get involved in the shite, hey?

    I saw that. He’s a ‘war hero’ too, we’ve forgotten about cutting off people’s hands and the unresolved military investigation etc.
    He is also a fundy religious nut himself, refuses to talk about his own religious belief [why are aussie pollies so cowardly and sly on their own religious affilitions?] Hastie was handpicked by abbott to give his conservative rump more power in warding off a turnbull attack. I’d say abbott is ‘reforming’ from within himself 😉

    With all these military, borderfarce and security clowns taking over the country it won’t be long and we’ll be living under martial law! perhaps we already are and we just don’t know it 🙂

  240. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 21, 2015 11:05 am

  241. December 21, 2015 11:08 am

    Try this princess harriet

    http://www.google.com/gwt/n?u=https://theguttertrash.com/2015/12/14/the-ultimate-humiliation-of-tony-abbott-is-only-just-beginning/&whp=3Acomment-120744

    This link will by-pass all of tinfoil`osys page-bloat,

    you can add the `url` prefix to most public urls, google will hijack the page and send you a light-weight, stripped of bloat, mobile-ready copy, but you can`t comment thru it, (read-only)

  242. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 21, 2015 11:13 am

    I’ll accept it when i can walk into a bank or any business and their offices on a week-end and when tradies don’t charge extra for week-end call outs.

    Why don’t we go all out with reform and have a 24 hr economy, let’s never sleep!

    …Speaking ahead of the Productivity Commission’s release of its final report into the industrial relations system, ACTU boss Dave Oliver said the notion of a seven-day economy was a myth.
    “We’ll accept that if we can start sending our children to school on weekends, or we can celebrate our sporting grand finals on a weekday or maybe even Parliament decides to sit on a weekend,” Mr Oliver told the ABC on Monday…

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/well-cop-cuts-to-penalty-rates-when-parliament-sits-on-a-weekend-says-actu-20151220-gls6jb.html#ixzz3uuQkcKfL

  243. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 21, 2015 11:20 am

    NBN Co to pay Telstra to fix its own copper network

    Fkn ludicrous!

    This is John Howard’s legacy, costing us billions. Telstra should have been split up into retail and wholesale, howard should be charged with wilful and culpable negligence in his duty to the national finances!

    [enter neil, stage left, trumpet blaring]

  244. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 21, 2015 11:44 am

    The five worst political decisions of 2015
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-21/matthewson-the-five-worst-political-decisions-of-2015/7044964

  245. December 21, 2015 11:48 am

    TB,,,,,,WoW! Thanks for the clarification, tbagz,,,,,,

    TB,,,,,,apart from the silly concept of a king a Coy,,,,,,

    #just pointing-out that your swooning for the copper-class-repug-leader may not have much to do considering you said ,,,king-a-coy,,,, and Liz are in both countries, to which l pointed-out that maybe norway had a more ethical govt with interests `beyond` looting it`s own treasury, l think you`re very mistaken that anything would be better if the copper-class-repug-leader had got his way, take a look at canberra, it`s full of `yank-ophiles` always putting flesh and blood citizens way down their priority list, in favor of paper-entities(corps/dog-clubs) (fcuk they won`t even let gays get married) and other non-living things like teh-economy

  246. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 21, 2015 11:53 am

    Yes you are hastie, you’re a johnny-come-lately and cory bernardi look alike/talk alike.

  247. December 21, 2015 11:56 am

    Hello everybody.

  248. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 21, 2015 12:00 pm

    Hello reb
    Nice to see you hereabouts. How are things with you?

  249. December 21, 2015 12:10 pm

    AO,,,,NBN Co to pay Telstra to fix its own copper network .. Fkn ludicrous!,,,,#agree

    ,,,,,This is John Howard’s legacy, costing us billions.,,,,,#tick

    ,,,,,Telstra should have been split up into retail and wholesale,,,,,

    #disagree, ask any teabag, they will remind you of the `golden-john-w` years of booming economy, so, we didn`t NEED to flog-off telecom did we

    ,,,,,howard should be charged with wilful and culpable negligence in his duty to the national finances!,,,,,

    #he should have charged with `treason` and `fraud` against the treasury/nation

  250. TB Queensland permalink
    December 21, 2015 12:23 pm

    Hello everybody.

    Welcome, reb of Melbourne … any relation to the reb of Hobart that used to comment here?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    #just pointing-out that your swooning for the copper-class-repug-leader may not have much to do considering you said ,,,king-a-coy,,,, and Liz are in both countries, to which l pointed-out that maybe norway had a more ethical govt with interests `beyond` looting it`s own treasury, l think you`re very mistaken that anything would be better if the copper-class-repug-leader had got his way

    I have no idea what you are mumbling about, tbagz … just a jumble of words … as for swooning … either that’s another insult or you have no idea of the meaning of the word … I’ll give you latitude with the latter – again …

    … but the blade is cranking higher and higher each time … I believe in a clean cut …

  251. December 21, 2015 12:38 pm

    Hello KL,

    I am good thanks. Heading off to Penang this Wednesday for two weeks woo-hoo!

    How are things with you?

    “”any relation to the reb of Hobart that used to comment here?””

    Very funny Mr B.

  252. December 21, 2015 12:50 pm

    Gday reb (of penang) 🙂 enjoy your trip.

    Reminder. Check your flight-paths if you go elsewhere from penang, teh-usa has been tormenting china with military fly-overs of `islands` china is building, (sooner or later these idiots will cause trouble somewhere)

  253. December 21, 2015 1:01 pm

    Thank you bagz. We’ll be going to Bangkok too. Apparently there are some tewowists on the loose!

  254. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 21, 2015 1:07 pm

    Thanks reb, I hope you have a lazy [and a little bit crazy] holiday. Much love and good wishes to you and your man.

    I’ll have 3 days off soon, the last of them is xmas day, which is the first xmas day I’ve had off in two years. Looking forward to the family cheer. Not looking forward to the panic of food preparation on xmas eve, some alcohol will help ease the pain I’m sure. I’ve tried out nigella’s special pedro ximenez sherry saturated pudding this year. I hope they all like it because I’ve also put it in the truffles!
    I just had a thought – why didn’t I get good xmas recipes from your partner, has he got a great pav recipe? brown sugar pav seems to be all the rage!

    Guess what? my special news…
    I’m going to be a first time grandmother next year, that was a nice surprise. I’m already collecting little baby things, but still determined that I won’t be an interfering g/mo, I’ll only step in when invited to offer my ‘expertise’ and look forward to being of practical help.
    I’m really divided about a grandparent name, my sister has nanny and poppy covered and I’d like to be a bit different, can my blog friends suggest something?

    A good year this year, the last 6 have had some immediate family deaths which we’re still sad about and this time of year has been a painful reminder, but there has been another birth in the extended family and a wedding in-between it all in case we get too maudlin. We’ll all be drunk by the time we finish toasting to all the events and the dear departed!

  255. December 21, 2015 1:09 pm

    l thought you were swooning for team-repug, maybe it was another kweezlander:-)

    Have you noticed `our` pro-corporate teabags haven`t mentioned the $8-bill float on teh-usa stock exchange, it`s some kind of internet company made by aussies, l think their HQ is based in london, and they built this `innovation` company while the copper-class-innovation-leader was `innovating` the zombie-model-copper-class-nbn. Unfortunately l didn`t catch the name of the company.

  256. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 21, 2015 1:19 pm

    Thank you bagz. We’ll be going to Bangkok too. Apparently there are some tewowists on the loose!

    I’ve got metal in my leg, I can’t tell you how much I’ve come to hate being publicly frisked every time I go through the detectors. They always say [when they see my annoyance, I can’t help it] that we can go into a private room and that only makes me frightened about what they’ll do away from public gaze. I always refuse that thoughtful request! “do your worst right here while I’ve got witnesses I say” They get a bit huffy, I understand they’ve got jobs to do, but some [like all people that you give power and a uniform to] go completely over the top just to show they can. I guess that’s life under ‘strong on terror’ these days and some airports seem to have the metal detectors set on a higher detection level than others and every little thing like zips and bra clasps set the alarms off.

  257. Tom R permalink
    December 21, 2015 1:23 pm

    Andrew Hastie: I’m no leaker.

    Is the media missing (again) the REAL story here. That the libs are AGAIN using our security forces for it’s own political purposes?

    oh, btw, welcome back reb of rebville. enjoy yer break. We’ll clean up here when we’re done. TRUST US!

  258. December 21, 2015 1:29 pm

    Ha-ha, bloody typical, 10 seconds after l posted the other comment, it came on tv about thailand. lt`s two different groups of tewwawists, `death-cult` and `jay-islam-eer` running around `plotting`, my abc didn`t say they had `actually` done any damage yet. l hope the red`n yellow shirts don`t get out of hand on you either.

  259. Tom R permalink
    December 21, 2015 1:34 pm

    I’ve come to hate being publicly frisked every time I go through the detectors.

    Me too 🙂

  260. December 21, 2015 2:02 pm

    “”why didn’t I get good xmas recipes from your partner, has he got a great pav recipe?””

    He only does Asian food I’m afraid, and doesn’t do too many many desserts, mainly the savoury stuff.

    “”I’m going to be a first time grandmother next year, that was a nice surprise””

    Congratulations! KL that’s wonderful news…!

    “I’m really divided about a grandparent name, my sister has nanny and poppy covered and I’d like to be a bit different, can my blog friends suggest something?”

    I’m thinking: “The Oracle” 🙂

  261. December 21, 2015 2:29 pm

    AO,,,,,I`m going to be a first time grandmother,,,,,

    #Congrats armchair:-)

    #but this,,,,,,,,determined that I won’t be an interfering g/mo, I’ll only step in when invited to offer my `expertise`,,,,,,,is total bullshit and won`t be shown to `she` who is doing the `birthing`:-)

    #Green-Ma and Green-Pa (assuming mr-armchair likes the greenz too)

  262. Tom R permalink
    December 21, 2015 3:18 pm

    can my blog friends suggest something?”

    The Armchair Granulator

  263. Tom R permalink
    December 21, 2015 3:32 pm

    malcayman continues to protect his rich mates (himself included)

    Malcolm Turnbull has defended an exemption allowing 1,400 companies associated with Australia’s business elite to avoid financial reporting requirements but said he would remove one of his own companies from it because it was now a “relatively small … passive investment company”.

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/nov/24/malcolm-turnbull-defends-financial-reporting-exemption-for-business-elite?CMP=share_btn_tw

    and at the same time, are trying to push through budgetary measures that hit the worst off, and are still trying to work out ways to attack penalty rates and raise the GST.

    The most important finding of the Productivity Commission’s new report isn’t that some workers should receive lower penalty rates on Sundays. It’s that almost everything conservative commentators say about the industrial relations system is wrong. It works well, it isn’t creating wages explosions, and it isn’t pricing people out of work.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/sunday-rates-aside-the-productivity-commission-finds-we-set-wages-pretty-well-20151220-gls1ox#ixzz3uvR4fU00

    It made me think of this again.

    “High times on Wall Street, and hard times on Main Street”

  264. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 21, 2015 3:49 pm

    #disagree, ask any teabag, they will remind you of the `golden-john-w` years of booming economy, so, we didn`t NEED to flog-off telecom did we

    To get our AAA rating back which we lost under Hawke/Keating as soon as possible, debt needed to be reduced as quickly as possible and asset sales are the quickest way to reduce debt.

    Debt tripled under Hawke/Keating from 6% of GDP to 18% of GDP. It was not until debt was reduced to 5% of GDP that we got our soon to be lost again AAA credit rating.

  265. December 21, 2015 4:48 pm

    Oh it`s so sweet having a resident dumb-fcuk who`s every answer contains even more dumb-fcukery within it.

    ,,,,,,we got our soon to be lost again AAA credit rating,,,,,

    #yep, flog-off the telco to boost a mythical credit-rating at the dawn of the digital age, then you have to build a second telco(nbn) at 100`s times the price, only to have team-zombie mangle it for fictional `savings`, which will immediately need `upgrading` as soon as it is finished

    #all the while allowing ZERO-tax corporations

    #as l said, there is nothing like having a resident dumb-fcuk, too fcuking stupid to look after his own kids interest, or his own #yaaay.zombies

    ,,,,,,debt needed to be reduced as quickly as possible,,,,,

    #only total dumb-fcuks believe this in an environment where corporations get off scott-free and pay no tax ,,but,,but,,but,,but,,joolya ,,but,,but,,kevin07

  266. TB Queensland permalink
    December 21, 2015 5:37 pm

    Very funny Mr B.

    Your very welcome Mr sreb … BTW what does “woo-hoo” entail?

    Our regards to whatsisname … 😉

    And best wishes to you both for Christmas …

    And while we’re on the subject, many thanks for maintaining TGT for all of us for another year of fun and frolic (sympathies to ToSY) … I can only imagine how hard it must be with the likes of ToM and Wally and Kneel commenting here …

    You do a great job mediating too … and some of the most in depth thread headers I’ve ever read … they’re even funny sometimes …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Unfortunately l didn`t catch the name of the company.

    Look up Atlassian, tbagz …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    … every little thing like zips and bra clasps set the alarms off.

    Never had a problem, KL, you may not know this but Lowes pants have nylon zips and I don’t need an underwire in my bras … 😉

    Congrats on the upcoming grandchild … you’ll love it – and interfere like buggery! 🙂

    A most exciting time for you!

    er, names … The Minister, is Grandma and I’m Granda, (for the same reason you want something a bit different different) … my parents were Nanna and Pa … and we also considered Oma and Opa – Dutch grandparents’ name …

  267. TB Queensland permalink
    December 21, 2015 5:40 pm

    Debt tripled under Hawke/Keating from 6% of GDP to 18% of GDP. It was not until debt was reduced to 5% of GDP that we got our soon to be lost again AAA credit rating.

    If that ideological bubble does burst its going to be very messy in the Kneel household …

  268. December 21, 2015 6:51 pm

    Thanks TB.. 🙂

  269. December 21, 2015 7:03 pm

    atlassian, thanks teebz (and take note resident dumb-fcuk)

    ,,,,,,,,Over the years, few have had a bad word to say about the Atlassian founders – even Barrie blames a lack of Australian government support rather than faulting Cannon-Brookes and Farquhar.

    “They’re a fantastic team, great guys, well-respected, well-liked, and I think the government should be doing everything it can to keep them in the country. It’s a tragedy for the country that they’re going offshore,” he said.

    “Tech really is out of sight and out of mind in Australia. It slips between the cracks of various [ministerial] portfolios and responsibilities: broadband, communications, innovation and others.,,,,,,

    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/atlassian-the-untold-story-how-two-australian-young-guns-built-a-company-headed-for-a-billion-dollar-ipo-2014-2

    #and the copper-class-innovation-leader said

    ,,,,,,,,It is unclear how the establishment of a British holding company might impact Atlassian’s day-to-day operations.

    Australian Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull downplayed the decision in a public Q&A this year, describing it as a “corporate move” that did “not involve moving their team or business there”. To many, though, it’s a bit like a lover moving all their things out of an apartment while saying the relationship’s still intact.,,,,,,,,

  270. TB Queensland permalink
    December 21, 2015 7:22 pm

    Thanks TB..

    Your very welcome, sir …

    … you may recall I have a regular Christmas gig … it was last Saturday … (I did one for another client this year and, it turns out, I will be next year too).

    Anyhoo … about four years ago my regulars decided to pay me $250 and they have ever since (I have always been given a bottle of Wild Turkey and dinner for The Minister and me) …

    I initially did it for a friend of mine who was part of the group … this year I didn’t get a cheque but a bottle of WT – not too bothered, as I said I did it for a friend …

    … however, I just opened my mail and … a noice $300 cheque … $100 an hour to enjoy yourself and entertain folks ain’t bad in my books!

    Pretty cool, wot!

  271. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 21, 2015 8:02 pm

    Hehe, you’re all very funny. Maybe I’ll just wait to see what the baby comes up with herself (we know it’s going to be a girl – is that bad?)
    Good on ya for making money off your musical talents TB!
    Guess we’ll all just keep on keeping on for another year!

  272. December 21, 2015 8:10 pm

    “”Guess we’ll all just keep on keeping on for another year!””

    We don’t really have many other options do we…

  273. December 21, 2015 8:30 pm

    We could always relieve The Planet (peace be upon her) of the burden of our existence. If we were that way inclined.

  274. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 21, 2015 8:55 pm

    Congratulations AO!

  275. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 21, 2015 9:00 pm

    “… you may recall I have a regular Christmas gig …”

    …and the women went wild for TB!!

  276. December 21, 2015 9:05 pm

    LOL 😆

  277. TB Queensland permalink
    December 21, 2015 11:54 pm

    She’s pissed, ToM … I could be a Wally and say is that yer Mum?

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