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January 17, 2016

malcolm-turnbull

It’s hard not to like Malcolm Turnbull.   The self-made multi-millionaire who, from humble beginnings, went on to become the Member for Goldmann Sachs before assuming the highest office in the land, that of Prime Minister.

But it always wasn’t this way. Malcolm grew up in a rented flat, son of a single mother who struggled to pay the bills and the rent. From an early age, Malcolm recognised the importance of hard work and more importantly, the comparative ease of getting others to do it on your behalf.

Despite his eloquent accent and impeccable dress sense, he wasn’t born with a silver spoon in his mouth. No, Malcolm grew up in a rented flat, a studio apartment, a bedsit even.

His electorate of Wentworth is home to some of the wealthiest Australians alive and dead, and encompasses the affluent suburbs of Double Bay, Potts Point, Edgecliff and Woolahra.

But it wasn’t always this way. Once, Malcolm had to work for a living, just like ordinary people and so one day, realising an opportunity, decided to invent the internet. People were grateful and such innovation afforded Malcolm the opportunity to move out from the hostel and buy a brick and tile home for him and his destitute mother in West Ryde.

Years later, he realised that the environment was quite important too, but less important than making money, so he decided to put his plans for an environmental revolution on hold in favour of making $200 million dollars and investing in lucrative offshore investment schemes in the Cayman Islands.  Just like ordinary people.

Now, as Prime Minister, Malcolm is loved and adored by Australians across this grateful nation and will be gloriously re-elected unopposed in an election yet to be set for a date sometime this year.

And we the people will be forever grateful, because the only other alternative is someone else who’s name escapes me but I’m sure is doing something meaningful, somewhere…

 

Did I mention He once lived in a rented flat?

 

 

 

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285 Comments leave one →
  1. Tom R permalink
    January 18, 2016 9:53 am

    Everybody loves Talcum!

    Except perhaps Scott McIntyre and Nick Ross 😉

  2. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 18, 2016 9:53 am

    Also poor Malcolm was bullied at school, not that he likes to talk about such personal matters. And then there is his legendary kindness to animals.

  3. Tom R permalink
    January 18, 2016 10:24 am

    someone else who’s name escapes me

    I’m pretty sure teambagger could remind you, he seems to have a fixation 😉

    It also seems that malcaymans long history of bullying public broadcasting employees has a long history. Some were ridiculed back when for highlighting this, but, in the fullness of time, the truth will out.

    “… there now seems to be a policy of trying to intimidate ABC personnel,” Conroy told Faine, although Faine had not asked about the issue. “Malcolm Turnbull is constantly attacking and trying to bully some of your journalists.”

    https://delimiter.com.au/2013/03/08/hands-off-nick-ross-conroy-warns-the-abc-and-the-australian/

  4. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 18, 2016 10:52 am

    Oh, is this why the ABC was directed to ask the white male, aboriginal representative, andrew bolt to appear on their show?

  5. Tom R permalink
    January 18, 2016 11:15 am

    How will we cope

    By watching the abc investigative series into the nobn 😉

  6. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 18, 2016 11:20 am

  7. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 18, 2016 11:30 am

  8. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 18, 2016 12:25 pm

    The Tennis World Reacts To BuzzFeed News’ Match-Fixing Expose
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicagarrison/the-tennis-world-reacts-to-buzzfeed-news-match-fixing-expose#.dpqZLRj8q

    …What We Know So Far
    BuzzFeed News and the BBC exposed secret files containing evidence of widespread match-fixing by players at the upper level of world tennis.
    A core group of 16 players — all of whom have ranked in the top 50 — have been repeatedly flagged to the world tennis authorities over suspicions that they have thrown matches at tournaments including Wimbledon, allowing corrupt gamblers to cash in by betting against them.
    None of those players have ever faced sanctions. More than half of them are playing at the Australian Open, which starts on Monday.
    Separately, a data analysis by BuzzFeed News identified 15 players who regularly lost matches in which heavily lopsided betting appeared to substantially shift the odds — a red flag for possible match fixing. Four players showed particularly unusual patterns…

  9. TB Queensland permalink
    January 18, 2016 12:46 pm

    How Uber Kapitalism is destroying society … every move is controlled by $$$ decisions … legal or illegal … never what is good for society and its people …

    Robber Barons at work …

    And why does Mal Turnbull invest in the Cayman’s anyway?

  10. Tom R permalink
    January 18, 2016 1:17 pm

    And why does Mal Turnbull invest in the Cayman’s anyway?

    Because it is goof for Australia

  11. Tom R permalink
    January 18, 2016 1:26 pm

    goof? 😯

    Victoria’s Innovation Minister has described the ABC’s treatment of its former technology editor Nick Ross as “appalling” and has expressed a desire to meet with the journalist and take his case directly to the managing director of the broadcaster.

    https://delimiter.com.au/2016/01/18/appalling-treatment-vic-it-minister-takes-rosss-cause-to-abc-md/?utm_content=bufferf87ca&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    How hard will the msm go to bury this, or will they go the character assassination route?

  12. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 18, 2016 2:02 pm

    Bernie Sanders is campaigning on universal health care

  13. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 18, 2016 2:26 pm

    And why does Mal Turnbull invest in the Cayman’s anyway?

    I am no fan of Turnbull but he did give a reason. To avoid a conflict of interest. I doubt it would be because it is of financial benefit. It would not matter where Turnbull put his money, his enemies and i may be one of them would find some fault.

  14. Tom R permalink
    January 18, 2016 2:46 pm

    To avoid a conflict of interest.

    You don’t think a debate about offshore tax avoidence conflicts at all with offshoring investments into a well know tax haven?

    I doubt it would be because it is of financial benefit

    No, of course not 😉

  15. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 18, 2016 2:53 pm

    Well he stated most investment funds invest in Telstra shares and as Minister for Communications it could be classified as a conflict of interest. And i know it sounds funny but i do not believe Turnbull invests overseas for financial benefit.

    Now if you want to say Turnbull is power mad i would agree with you.

  16. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 18, 2016 4:34 pm

    Well he stated most investment funds invest in Telstra shares and as Minister for Communications it could be classified as a conflict of interest.

    So one would hope he divests himself of any investment portfolio containing telstra

    I doubt it would be because it is of financial benefit

    yeah, all those millions invested he surely must be losing losing money there 😉

    Any fool can see it’s a conflict of interest with taxation policy.

  17. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 18, 2016 4:39 pm

    What a great move!

  18. TB Queensland permalink
    January 18, 2016 5:17 pm

    I like the idea of Mabo Day!

  19. TB Queensland permalink
    January 18, 2016 5:20 pm

    Thought I’d transfer this comment here …

    Note a reference to Gina Rinehart and her $14 billion last year …

    Anyone doesn’t think we need to balance international and national wealth distribution must be a Robber Baron or a wannabe … wealth and power at the cost of other peoples’ welfare …

    KEY POINTS FROM THE REPORT:

    – The world’s richest 1% now hold more wealth than the rest of the planet

    – The richest 10 per cent of Australians hold more wealth than the other 90 per cent combined

    – The gap between Australia’s richest and poorest is accelerating

    – In 2015, the wealth of Australia’s richest 1% outstripped the poorest 60%

    – Australia’s richest person is worth more than all of the wealth held by the poorest 10 per cent of Australians

    Source: Oxfam’s An Economy for the 1% report

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/rich-aussies-get-richer-as-poor-stay-poor/news-story/49ef86aac5cb7b9b4f169d6b68c2cfc5

    And why:

    I prefer to live in a society … not survive in an economy – for the RICH!

  20. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 18, 2016 5:43 pm

    So one would hope he divests himself of any investment portfolio containing telstra

    I think that is a good point. I wonder what Conroy did with his money?

    The gap between Australia’s richest and poorest is accelerating

    However everything is relative. All Australians are rich compared to most of the planet. I remember visiting Egypt many years ago and we went of the tourist paths and went into the back streets of Cairo. After being there i conclude there are no poor people in Australia.

  21. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 18, 2016 5:46 pm

    I like the idea of Mabo Day!

    I wonder if they have mabo day flags, I would really like to take a mabo day flag into work, wave it around and then plonk it down to ‘claim’ the day for mabo!
    Would be a good discussion starter I think.

    aarghh, the pirate party, one of the senate parties that I will vote for

  22. TB Queensland permalink
    January 18, 2016 5:46 pm

    After being there i conclude there are no poor people in Australia.

    Economics 101 is a very good read … you know nuthin’ Kneel of Sydlee … winter is cumming!

  23. TB Queensland permalink
    January 18, 2016 5:53 pm

    http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/school-life/why-are-people-outraged-by-these-cheap-school-uniforms/news-story/0ec889e856ef0e16fb99cf0960e7c05c

    Here’s an interesting story on who’s rich and who’s not and how twisted peoples’ values have become …

  24. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 18, 2016 5:55 pm

    you know nuthin’ Kneel of Sydlee

    Poor people in Australia have flush toilets something people who live in the backstreets of Cairo do not have.

  25. January 18, 2016 6:11 pm

    OH FCUK TEABAGS AND TEAM-CHEERERS

    #here`s roy agreeing with me about ABS mythology (again) sigh

    roy,,,,,,,,*The ‘under-employed’ are those people who are in part-time work or consultants who are looking for more work. (Unfortunately the ABS does not release this figure in their monthly unemployment survey results).,,,,,,,,

    http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/6622-australian-unemployment-estimates-december-2015-201601040451

  26. TB Queensland permalink
    January 18, 2016 6:36 pm

    did it again … bbbbbbbbbbzzbzzzzbzbzbzbbnznznzznn znb znb znz … WHACK!

  27. January 18, 2016 7:03 pm

    roy,,,,,,,,Now 2.69 million Australians (20.7% of the workforce) are unemployed or under-employed in December(#2015) as students hit the jobs market.,,,,,,

    #ballpark, 13% of population

    #YET BOTH TEAMS AND ABS CONTINUALLY DEFRAUD PUBLIC WITH MYTHICAL 6ish% NUMBER

    #COWERING-MEDIA AID AND ABET THIS FRAUD

  28. TB Queensland permalink
    January 18, 2016 7:09 pm

    Mr Morrison conceded it was a “worrying time” for financial markets but the Chinese slowdown was not unanticipated.

    The government would not be “spooked” and its plan was “exactly as we need it to be” in the face of volatility in financial markets.

    “The fundamentals of the Australian domestic economy, I think, are very encouraging,” the treasurer told 2GB on Monday.

    He hinted the budget may not return to surplus by 2020/21 as flagged in December’s mid-year budget update, insisting “particularly in this global environment, things change a lot”.

    Changing the tax mix was one of the biggest opportunities for growing the economy.

    Mr Morrison cited the merits of a plan put forward by the Financial Services Council to hike and broaden the GST.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/australian-economy-very-sound-morrison/news-story/f63d99bf2cd58744ae17f4fc03ff5054

    So tell me .. what’s actually changed in the government … NOWT!

  29. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 18, 2016 7:10 pm

    #YET BOTH TEAMS AND ABS CONTINUALLY DEFRAUD PUBLIC WITH MYTHICAL 6ish% NUMBER

    I think you have to assume that the ABS is not as stupid as you think. The method used for determining unemployment is used in all OECD countries. So many countries are being defrauded according to you.

    If you work one hour/week you are counted as employed in OECD countries.

    How should unemployment be defined? It may not be as easy as you think.

  30. January 18, 2016 7:30 pm

    Wow.,,,,,Murdochs pull the plug on flailing @theboltreport10. Getting fired from your own conservative political show in an election year. Ouch!,,,,,,

  31. January 18, 2016 7:34 pm

    ‏@MargeAbbott10,,,,,,,,,,,@TheMurdochTimes @AngryGranny1 @1_linz @theboltreport10 I loved it for the comedy. The “Miranda Devine” character was a classic.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,#GUFFAW:-)

  32. January 18, 2016 7:38 pm

    k,,,,,,If you work one hour/week you are counted as employed in OECD countries.,,,,,,

    #Yep. That`s the fraud. .. Well done kneel.

  33. TB Queensland permalink
    January 18, 2016 8:37 pm

    We watched The Revenant a couple of nights ago and we’re watching The Man in the Wilderness tonight just to see just how many similarities there actually are … !

    We watched The H8FUL Eight last night and In The Heart of the Sea about a week ago …

  34. January 18, 2016 9:05 pm

    “”Poor people in Australia have flush toilets something people who live in the backstreets of Cairo do not have.””

    This is very true.

    Barbados is where you will find palm trees. Broadmeadows is where you will not.

  35. January 18, 2016 9:06 pm

    I started watching the Hateful 8 the other night, but got bored and switched it off. Does it get any better after they reach the cabin?

  36. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 18, 2016 10:15 pm

    Yep. That`s the fraud. .. Well done kneel

    It was this topic which got me kicked out of AIMN. WE found this on the ILO (International Labor Organization) website from a `1982 conference

    145. In order to account fully for underemployment and casual wage labourers, the term “some work” in the definition should be interpreted as including all persons who worked at least one hour during the reference period

    The worse thing is that if you work for one hour for free you are still counted as employed. Obviously it makes no sense to us but we have to assume they have a good reason for using this definition of unemployment.

  37. January 18, 2016 10:52 pm

    k,,,,,,this topic which got me kicked out of AIMN,,,,,,

    #it`s not up to me (or roy) who is allowed into `coffee-2`, or they choose to have coffee with, but their `first-choice` probably isn`t teabags

  38. TB Queensland permalink
    January 18, 2016 11:19 pm

    Does it get any better after they reach the cabin?

    Nah! Just typical Tarantino bloodthirsty graphics of people being killed wounded or hung – hanged – strung up …

    And yeah ’tis a film that bored me titles … Tarantio’s films have been pretty much the same since Pulp Fiction … on the “era” seems to change …

  39. TB Queensland permalink
    January 18, 2016 11:20 pm

    titles … and titles too! 🙂

  40. TB Queensland permalink
    January 18, 2016 11:20 pm

    fkn TITLESS … jeeez …

  41. January 18, 2016 11:27 pm

    k,,,,,,,determining unemployment is used in all OECD countries,,,,,,

    #maybe so, but that doesn`t over-ride any country from acting in it`s best interest does it.

    #maybe canadia decides all citizens should be shoving their heads up grizzly-bear`s arses, and maybe the rest of the `oecd` countries think its a good idea to also have their citizens shove their heads up grizzly-bear arses, does that mean the Aust-govt should go to great expense importing grizzly-bear`s and enforcing citizens have their heads shoved up the grizzly-arses

    #in the same vain that the Aust-govt should avoid the `oecd` approved grizzly-bears, the Aust-govt and ABS should avoid the `oecd` approved iLo-fiction/fraud which in not in the `national-interest` and only fcuks-up the ability to plan down-stream services.

  42. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 19, 2016 8:38 am

    #maybe so, but that doesn`t over-ride any country from acting in it`s best interest does it.

    Apparently the method is the same in all OECD countries so we can compare unemployment rates between countries. If every country used a different method we could not compare unemployment rates.

    http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/products/FBE517ECA9B07F63CA257D0E001AC7D4?OpenDocument

    The ABS uses internationally agreed standards in defining unemployment and the key indicators have been measured in a consistent way since 1966.
    To be classified as unemployed a person needs to meet the following three criteria:

    – not working more than one hour in the reference week ;…………………………………………………..The International Labour Organization (ILO) defines unemployed people as those who are: not working one hour or more;

  43. Tom R permalink
    January 19, 2016 9:56 am

    61 agencies demanding warrantless access to your data

    Yea, what could go wrong

    A former Ohio police officer has been charged with raping a woman in 2014 and then using the police database to stalk her after she reported the crime.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/ohio-cop-uses-police-database-to-stalk-his-rape-victim-after-she-reports-him-prosecutors/

    it makes no sense to us but we have to assume they have a good reason for using this definition of unemployment.

    It was more political fix to make the African countries unemployment figures seem not so horrifying when compared to the rest of the world, from memory. It has no real use in our environment, yet financial institutions are built on them.

    The libs blasted Keating for doing what every other country in the world did, but used it when howard got into power to mask the rapidly swindling rate of full employment and escalating rise of under-employment.

    It’s a (imo) stupid measurement, but, will anything be perfect? and, at least we have an internationally standardised measurement.

    Better to concentrate on the under employment figures for a meaningful analysis of what is actually happening in our society, which have been steadily rising. Not that the unemployment figures are anything to crow about either.

  44. Tom R permalink
    January 19, 2016 10:34 am

  45. TB Queensland permalink
    January 19, 2016 10:57 am

    Was this deliberate, TR? … brilliant! (Looks Freudian)

    the rapidly swindling rate of full employment and escalating rise of under-employment.

  46. TB Queensland permalink
    January 19, 2016 11:03 am

    Is that Michaelia’s, Thatcher look or Hitler? Maybe a mixture …

    Another catlyk with a string of uni degrees … indicating very little knowledge of what happens in the real world after half a lifetime cloistered away in private schools and unis in Pommie Land and Oz … bet she’s a fan of Churchill too …

    Jesus wept!

    Whose destroying my country!

  47. TB Queensland permalink
    January 19, 2016 11:07 am

    I just said HOLY SHIT!

    GLENN Frey, a founding member and guitarist for the Eagles, has died aged 67.

    http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/eagles-guitarist-glenn-frey-dead-at-67/news-story/75b9901e5d15ec7f3af2493f4f51d7b4?sv=d21cbcc16d2c4c907bbdaa5b3e05aa08

    This guy revived my interest in singing with “No More Cloudy Days”!

    Stunned …

  48. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 19, 2016 11:10 am

    The libs blasted Keating for doing what every other country in the world did,

    Really? Link please TR.

    The big thing i remember is lefties saying Howard introduced a new method for determining unemployment to make his figures look better. Unemployment went from 8% to 4% under Howard so you lefties said he introduced a new rule. If you work one hour/week you are employed.

    Too bad this new rule has been used since 1966. It is why i find you lefties so deceitful and stupid. If Howard did that the Labor opposition would have exploded. It was a lie that is still told on leftie blogs that Howard fudged the unemployment rate.

  49. January 19, 2016 11:17 am

    Good news, we are not running out of resources.

  50. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 19, 2016 11:18 am

    What a cheek! If she wins that it can only reflect poorly on her electorate. They would vote for donkey if it wore the lib colours. You can only wonder about her motivation, she’s old enough to retire and she will retire very comfortably thanks to her taxpayer funded perks of office. Is it pure bile that keeps her going?

  51. TB Queensland permalink
    January 19, 2016 11:23 am

    More here on Glenn Frey …

    http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/jan/18/glenn-frey-eagles-founder-dies-aged-67

  52. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 19, 2016 11:24 am

    Good news, we are not running out of resources.

    I can vaguely remember him tosy, but my recall is he is one of the ‘magic pudding’ club, where the earth just magically provides never ending resources for some to plunder, right?

  53. January 19, 2016 11:34 am

    “If she wins that it can only reflect poorly on her electorate.” 🙂

    ‘After the uprising of the 17th of June
    The Secretary of the Writers Union
    Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
    Stating that the people
    Had forfeited the confidence of the government
    And could win it back only
    By redoubled efforts.

    ‘Would it not be easier
    In that case for the government
    To dissolve the people
    And elect another?’ ~ Bertolt Brecht

  54. Tom R permalink
    January 19, 2016 11:46 am

    nil, petty sure finding a link for lib attacks on Labor pre internet might be difficult, but I’ll put this here just for interests sake

    The LFS remained essentially unchanged until April 1986, when the underlying employment definition was changed to align with changes to international standards made in 1982 by the International Labour Organisation (ILO). The definition of employed persons was changed to include persons who worked without pay between 1 and 14 hours in the survey reference week, in a family business or on a farm (i.e. contributing family workers). Prior to this change, these unpaid workers were counted as employed only if they worked at least 15 hours in the reference week.

    http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Previousproducts/1301.0Feature%20Article162005?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=1301.0&issue=2005&num=&view=

    As for this one

    It was a lie that is still told on leftie blogs that Howard fudged the unemployment rate.

    read on 😉

    In 2001 the LFS questionnaire underwent its first major redesign since 1978. This new questionnaire allowed the collection of new or extended data on: future starters; job tenure; underemployment; hours worked; duration of unemployment; and marginal attachment to the labour force. The new questionnaire also incorporated minor definitional changes to employment and unemployment relating to: short term absences; unavailability due to illness; and contributing family workers. These changes were made principally to improve alignment of the employment and unemployment definitions with ILO standards. Most of these changes were reflected in LFS statistics from April 2001.

  55. Tom R permalink
    January 19, 2016 11:56 am

    malcayman and dutton have a lot to explain about this. Will the media ask?

  56. TB Queensland permalink
    January 19, 2016 12:02 pm

    It was a lie that is still told on leftie blogs that Howard fudged the unemployment rate.

    TR, maybe you should inform the whiner that the International Labour Organisation – ie ILO is a LABOUR organisation and therefor “leftie” organisation by function and design.

    The ILO was founded in 1919, in the wake of a destructive war, to pursue a vision based on the premise that universal, lasting peace can be established only if it is based on social justice. The ILO became the first specialized agency of the UN in 1946.

    I have a suspicion that like everything else in this world its become a prostitute to $$ Uber Kapitalism

  57. TB Queensland permalink
    January 19, 2016 12:12 pm

    ILO

    The unique tripartite structure of the ILO gives an equal voice to workers, employers and governments to ensure that the views of the social partners are closely reflected in labour standards and in shaping policies and programmes.

    http://www.ilo.org/global/about-the-ilo/lang–en/index.htm

    And some of us actually studied IR (and the ILO) long before commenting on blogs …

    But its nice to know the mozzie knows something … but as usual just keeps repeating it … broken records still sound broken how often they are played … with

  58. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 19, 2016 12:31 pm

    “…The goal of revenue reduction has all but been stated by the Turnbull Government in its persistent claim that spending is too high rather than the observation that revenue is too low.

    In this environment the further loss of substantial public revenue in the form of capital gains concessions, negative gearing, superannuation and other wasteful tax concessions (to say nothing of the absence of a wealth tax, or of tax avoidance and evasion) skews the ‘debate’ at the outset.

    It is not a ‘scare tactic’ to point out that increasing the rate of a regressive tax (or extending its base to include food) will, all other things left the same, redistribute income to higher groups…”

  59. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 19, 2016 1:21 pm

    –]piratesahoy Can you offer a basic, high-level timeline of what’s happened to you over the last three years? (With whatever redactions you feel are necessary!)
    Edit: And what are you planning to do next?

    [nick ross] …Feb 2013: Published “The vast differences between the NBN and the Coalition’s alternative”
    Feb/March 2013: Article starts going epic viral. Two weeks later The Project uses it to grill Turnbull on air. For once he seems very uncomfortable in a media interview about the NBN.
    A few days later: The Australian suddenly publishes two articles about me. One erroneously saying I’d been disciplined by the ABC. Another from an “expert” saying why my article was wrong (laughably bullshit).
    Next day: Stephen Conroy slamming Mark Scott for “gagging me” on Jon Faine radio show
    Later that day: I meet with senior ABC manager who tells me to keep quiet, go home, and that ABC is preparing for Liberal government etc. Also some questions from Media Watch about content of site.
    Following Monday: Media Watch beat-up appears. It’s all about me. I’d been told it was about NBN coverage in the media in general.
    April: Write article on how Liberal/Turnbull claims about how price of internet under Libs will be cheaper is factually incorrect. Told not to publish it because of the political environment. Article is never published.
    May: Complete my Copper Network article (it was actually done in an earlier version in March). Told there’s “nothing wrong with it per se” but that “the NBN is dead and there’s no point in causing a fuss”
    July 2013: Diagnosed with stress and getting ill from it.
    Election: Emma Alberici finally publishes her NBN article. I publish mine on Copper and Telehealth
    Following months: Almost all requests for other media (TV radio) have vanished. Daily news conference calls involve me telling News team about NBN stuff but that I can’t cover it and perhaps someone else might like to. Only Science Editor and Environment Editor ask why.
    2014: Vertigan and Ergas “reviews” appear. Can’t cover them.
    2015: Waiting to be absorbed into main News Online team.
    Around July: Told ABC Tech site is closing and I’d need to build a tech audience with the Business Section to keep working.
    I contact unions, legal people and Comcare. I also blow the whistle on what happened to me. Internal investigation occurs. Eventually says nothing wrong.
    Christmas 2015: My time to build an audience with is over. I’ve been let down by Whistle Blowing people, my councillor, boss, Heda of HR and job is basically untenable. Get offered almost a year’s salary to leave (I thought they had no money for a tech editor). Tried not to snap their arm off.
    That’s Extremely basic. It also should probably have Senate Estimates in there but ultimately while I was talked about I had no input…

  60. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 19, 2016 1:27 pm

    link here for more conversation

    https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/410n4q/i_am_outgoing_abc_technology_editor_nick_ross_ama/

  61. TB Queensland permalink
    January 19, 2016 4:39 pm

    So that confirms pretty much what we’ve been saying here about NBN … the Prime Minister actually SABOTAGED the project and then has the gall to talk INNOVATION …

    Just another part of the Hypocrites Party …

    Had a soldier or spy sabotaged the communication infrastructure to the extent that it was under Turncoat’s “watch” he or she would now be languishing in jail … or a foreign embassy!

  62. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 19, 2016 5:06 pm

    So that confirms pretty much what we’ve been saying here about NBN

    That whole article smells false. Why would an organisation like the ABC which hates the Coalition stop news which is bad for the Coalition? Makes no sense.

    Anyway the current NBN is still Labors NBN and we are stuck with it. The big difference is the Coalition is doing FTTN rather than FTTP. So instead of digging up every street in Australia, streets will be dug up to the street corner and then the copper telephone line already installed will be used for the last bit. FTTN has to be cheaper and faster to build.

  63. TB Queensland permalink
    January 19, 2016 5:28 pm

    KABOOM!

  64. TB Queensland permalink
    January 19, 2016 5:31 pm

    … the further loss of substantial public revenue in the form of capital gains concessions, negative gearing, superannuation and other wasteful tax concessions (to say nothing of the absence of a wealth tax, or of tax avoidance and evasion) skews the ‘debate’ at the outset.

    I’m surprised Matilda didn’t use my list … 🙂

    ► Negative Gearing welfare

    ► Trust Fund welfare

    ► Super Tax Breaks for the rich welfare

    ► Multi-national Tax dodge welfare

    ► Present pollie’s expenses welfare

    ► Post pollie’s expenses welfare

    ► Bean bag wastefulness

    ► International Travel wastefulness

  65. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 19, 2016 7:16 pm

    Matilda should use my list

    – spend less

  66. TB Queensland permalink
    January 19, 2016 7:39 pm

    Pay yer fk taxes!

    Is anyone else having trouble logging into WordPress?

  67. January 19, 2016 8:20 pm

    The main reason I’ve commented seldom, in recent times, is because my link to here (or wordpress, by extension) has caused my tower to crash; multiple times.

    That said, I’m halfway through replacing suspect bits of hardware…

    Peace all

  68. January 19, 2016 8:26 pm

    I don’t like Malcolm much…but I don’t hate him nearly as much as the Conservatives who think he took over the Liberal Australian Conservative Party.

    Morons all.

    They still don’t get it.

    They know Bolt speaks for them (along with sundry other fringe arsehats), but they don’t realise his choir preaching only invigorates them (whilst merely amusing most of the rest of us).

    The faux-energised Trump Base will find out same, in due course.
    Which leads me to ponder, do serious libertarian/conservatives here (you know who you are) not see the imbecility of belligerent, policy-lite Trump? I suspect yooze do…

  69. January 19, 2016 8:31 pm

    Now that Tony Abbott is no longer PM, Andrew Bolt says “I now don’t feel so much that I have a dog in the next election fight.”

    The very same puissant Icon whom has a purchased TV show which carries the always ridiculous, now even more laughable, slogan…’Without Fear Or Favour’.

    Sad tnuc.

  70. TB Queensland permalink
    January 19, 2016 8:31 pm

    G’day bro … noice ta see ya … the “libertarians” have been a bit lite on here lately … maybe you need to stir ‘t pot a bit lad!

    And Happy New Year … its nearly 2017 FFS!

  71. January 19, 2016 8:31 pm

    Toilet!

  72. January 19, 2016 8:43 pm

    Happy New Year!

    My friends!

    Best Thing about h8tful Eight was the Hollywood Choice, Channing Tatum getting his comeuppance. Very Slow to get going, but I love the nihilistic ending. MagFUCKINGnificent!
    The Revenant was faaaar worse, in terms of drawn out, inevitable brutality & boredom (but beautifully shot?).

  73. January 19, 2016 8:45 pm

    Still reading halfway down the thread, so comments may seem a lil disjointed!

  74. January 19, 2016 8:48 pm

    The best thing about being absent for a protracted period is there’s lots to talk about!

    Did I mention, Fuck James Hird? #andnow, you’ve cometoclaimyourjustreward

  75. January 19, 2016 8:56 pm

    “Good news, we are not running out of resources”

    Good news indeed.

    But I’m reasonably certain we’ll run out of sun & wind far later; on a geographical timescale.

  76. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 19, 2016 9:04 pm

    Pay yer fk taxes!

    I don’t apply for anythings in your list. But increasing taxes if the lefties first thought when we need more money. Spending more wisely does not occur to a leftie.

  77. January 19, 2016 9:10 pm

    Interestingly, my own collective bargaining has been drawn out for over six months now…and, in an unprecedented move for the site, the company wasted $25000+ engaging anti-CFMEU lawyers (can dig up the name of the Firm, if need be; they are notorious) to try & block a ballot for protected action. At the very least, they’ve saved themselves from six months of any pay increase (backpay being a pipedream nowadays)…if I was to put my cynical hat on.

    I’d love to say more, and will when I’m able.

    It’s like the Corp’s are trying to sniff the political breeze. But, like the groundwork they and small business are hard at work doing on attacking penalty rates; they forget…THERE ARE MORE OF US THAN THEM (dumb cunts…suffer, bastards).

  78. Tom R permalink
    January 19, 2016 9:39 pm

    Did I mention, Fuck James Hird?

    Which reminds me of something I read elsewhere the other day

    Q) What do you call a group of drug cheats?

    A) A Hird

    Nice to see ya back toilet (that sounds quite weird on re-reading)

    Yep, the big corps have won, kicking the small worker down, whilst at the same time victimising them for all their perceived troubles.

  79. Tom R permalink
    January 19, 2016 9:43 pm

    and then has the gall to talk INNOVATION …

    And the same media who turned a blind eye to this destruction are the same ones lapping it up and telling the masses that this shit is caviar.

    If we can find another technology writer who held a candle to the bullshit the libs pushed like Nick Ross did, using nothing but facts, I would love to see it. They all either turned a blind eye, or simply played the ‘he said, she said’ game favoured by our media.

  80. January 19, 2016 10:10 pm

    TB,,,,,,,,,The ILO became the first specialized agency of the UN,,,,,,,,

    #that little line kind`a fills-in all the blanks doesn`t it, where else would you go for a global-effort to waste time and resources on the `point-less`

  81. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 19, 2016 10:19 pm

    And the same media who turned a blind eye to this destruction

    The only broadband destruction i am aware of is this

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it-old/conroy-scraps-opel-deal/story-e6frgalx-1111115952960

    FEDERAL Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has canned the former Coalition government’s billion dollar regional broadband deal with the Opel consortium of Optus and Elders……………The former Coalition government awarded Opel the billion dollar deal to rollout broadband to the bush using a blend of fixed and wireless technology in June last year.

  82. January 19, 2016 10:22 pm

    TB,,,,,,actually SABOTAGED the project and then has the gall to talk INNOVATION,,,,,,,

    #Yep teebz we have been well ahead timid-media on wreckage and copper-class-innovation, all we can hope for now is the greenz get ross to work with them during the election and make lots of noise about it, blib`s lot won`t have the nads

  83. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 19, 2016 11:54 pm

    The main reason I’ve commented seldom, in recent times, is because my link to here (or wordpress, by extension) has caused my tower to crash; multiple times.
    That said, I’m halfway through replacing suspect bits of hardware…
    Peace all

    I wonder what that’s all about?
    I can vouch that reb hasn’t sabotaged the site, we’re all going ok!
    Can you come at it from another link? [I’m no techie I hasten to add]

    Not a senate enquiry, I’d say it needs a RC! [along with a few more liberal party stunts]

    Wed 17th July, 1912

  84. January 20, 2016 12:04 am

    Tucked away at the bottom of a limited-news post, we only get this about the blot-report,

    ,,,,,,,,News Corp columnist Andrew Bolt is also on the radar to be part of the Sky News line-up later in the year. His Sunday morning show, The Bolt Report, has not been renewed by Network Ten. He told Media a number of options had been put to him, although he was not in a position to confirm his plans.,,,,,,,

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/sky-news-invests-in-shows-as-news-pushes-for-takeover/news-story/17130b646802627cc3c92b69db3ba6d5?nk=ac9437faadb0c2d6affe91828fa3f0ea-1453208173

  85. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 20, 2016 1:12 am

    The Bolt is busy with his *cough* ABC filming obligations, he is our white australian authority on our indigenous peoples you know 😉

    Now that the ABC has completely capitulated to the murdoch/IPA [along with the government] there’s only the guardian left to offer a progressive voice and any scrutiny of the corporocracy.

    No hope of any ‘governing for all australians’ is there?

  86. Tom R permalink
    January 20, 2016 8:30 am

    FEDERAL Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has canned the former Coalition government’s billion dollar regional broadband deal with the Opel consortium of Optus and Elders

    because………..

    The original deal, the documentation of which were kept secret by then minister Coonan, didn’t meet with the conditions laid out in hte funding agreement. I cannot find anywhere where the original deal has been released, it would be interesting, but, the funding agreement had a minimum coverage laid out, which the Communications own internal analysis determined was far from the mark.

    However in a sign of potential litigation over the move, SingTel has disputed the government’s claim, saying the Opel consortium met all of its contractual agreements.

    And, if they HAD met the contractual agreements, then they would have been paid a pretty penny in the courts. How did that go again?

    Looks like the Labor Government has again saved the taxpayers from lining the pockets of a develoer who canot achieve an outcome, much like the recent example in Victoria, where a developer has a contract signed on the eve of an election.

  87. Tom R permalink
    January 20, 2016 8:36 am

    The Bolt is busy with his *cough* ABC filming obligations

    Unbelievable that this is the only person the abc can find for ‘balance”, a convicted racist. Is there nobody on the stoopid side they could find who hasn’t been found guilty in a court of law to have lied on this very topic?

    theabc is lost, and has been for some time.

    The headline next morning on ABC News radio was something to the effect that Bob Brown was critical of the Prime Minister appointing Peter Slipper at Speaker. Once again your ABC was dutifully reducing this appearance of Bob Brown on one of its programmes to what the News Ltd narrative required that news be in the form of how it could be critical of Julia Gillard and the government and so return more corporate friendly government to Australia.

    http://utherssay.com/tag/tony-jones/

  88. Tom R permalink
    January 20, 2016 8:49 am

  89. Tom R permalink
    January 20, 2016 8:53 am

    I think the comment about malcayman deleting things is in relation this

  90. Tom R permalink
    January 20, 2016 9:03 am

    Oh, and a bone for tone

    I know how much you like to see scientists proven wrong. 😉

    A few years back, a famous psychologist published a series of studies that found people could predict the future — not all the time, but more often than if they were guessing by chance alone.

    The paper left psychologists with two options.

    “Either we have to conclude that ESP is true,” says Brian Nosek, a psychologist at the University of Virginia, “or we have to change our beliefs about the right ways to do science.”

    Nosek is going with Option B — and not just for psychology experiments. He thinks there’s something wrong with the way we’re doing science. And he launched a massive project to try to fix it.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2016/01/15/463237871/episode-677-the-experiment-experiment

    But, that’s the beauty of science, if you see something wrong, you can fix it.

  91. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 20, 2016 9:19 am

    And, if they HAD met the contractual agreements, then they would have been paid a pretty penny in the courts. How did that go again?

    Still ongoing.

    http://www.budget.gov.au/2015-16/content/myefo/html/15_appendix_c-04.htm

    Termination of the funding agreement with OPEL Network Pty Ltd

    As at 31 October 2015, the Australian Government is a party to legal action brought by OPEL Networks Pty Ltd (in Liquidation) (OPEL) and Optus Networks Pty Ltd (Optus) in relation to an agreement under the Broadband Connect Infrastructure Programme. OPEL is a joint venture between Optus and Elders Telecommunications Infrastructure Pty Ltd. The outcome of that litigation is unknown as the proceedings are ongoing.

  92. Tom R permalink
    January 20, 2016 9:31 am

    So, Optus having difficulty supporting their case I see.

  93. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 20, 2016 9:40 am

    No. Litigation takes a long time. The bush would have broadband by now if it wasn’t for Labor.

  94. Tom R permalink
    January 20, 2016 10:19 am

    The bush would have broadband by now if it wasn’t for Labor.

    And, thanks to Labors satellite (opposed by malcayman) much of it does.

    Can you point to an instance where Optus has achieved what it promised (which we don’t even know, thanks to Coonan’s blackout WHAT was promised)

  95. January 20, 2016 10:23 am

    AO,,,,,,,Now that the ABC has completely capitulated,,,,,,,

    #l`m not certain about that armchair, wait`n see what mediawatch says about nbn/ross first before writing-off my abc completely, l also expect some leaking to saturday-paper, smh, the-monthly, and guardian over ross/board-bullying/nbn (swoon-free blib is still fcuked tho) and 4corners will be another one to watch

  96. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 20, 2016 10:27 am

    Looks like the Labor Government has again saved the taxpayers from lining the pockets of a develoer who canot achieve an outcome, much like the recent example in Victoria, where a developer has a contract signed on the eve of an election.

    TomR why are you so dishonest?

    The events of last week in Victoria where the government is spending $600 million to $1bn to not build a vital road link isn’t just a colossal trashing of taxpayers’ money, but something much more.

    The Victorian taxpayers is spending hundreds of millions of dollars to stop building a road.

    And the bush would have had broadband years ago if it was not for Labor.

    When will you learn? Nothing the ALP works like you think it does.

  97. Tom R permalink
    January 20, 2016 10:41 am

    The Victorian taxpayers is spending hundreds of millions of dollars to stop building a road.

    OR

    The Victorian taxpayers is spending hundreds of millions of dollars to stop building a road that would have wasted billions more and simply added congestion to already congested roads. (see where this white elephant terminated)

    AND

    Why did the previous grubmint sign a secret deal that guaranteed the conglomerate got paid hundreds of millions of dollars if the voters chose not to have this white elephant

    There needs to be an rc into that.

    And the bush would have had broadband years ago if it was not for Labor.

    Simply going on the libs actions before and since, that is fairy tale talk

  98. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2016 10:56 am

    Simply going on the libs actions before and since, that is fairy tale talk …

    An’ that’s not all …

  99. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 20, 2016 11:00 am

    Ratbag feminist has a bright idea: a curfew for men!

  100. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 20, 2016 11:09 am

    Simply going on the libs actions before and since, that is fairy tale talk

    It was Labor who promised broadband for all Australians at the 2007, costing only $4.7B and finished by 2013. It was a lie of course.

  101. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2016 11:59 am

    sb, the alternative is gender change for all males or dick demounting or delimiting surgery … a new money earner for ISIL! … I prefer Meghan’s suggestion* …

    A bit of (academic) knowledge appears to be very dangerous …

    http://www.feministcurrent.com/about/

    The places you visit is a little disturbing too, sb????

    Why are we all tarred and feathered … ? again … does not help the “movement” one bit …

    *sarc alert …

  102. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2016 11:59 am

    Would the “curfew” include police officers?

  103. Tom R permalink
    January 20, 2016 2:40 pm

    It was Labor who promised broadband for all Australians

    And that is what we are getting

    But, if you want actual lies, try this (more stuff the internet creator is trying to remove from his creation)

    Why the Coalition’s NBN plan is superior – and why it will be better for the bush too

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:C0BzupcuAWEJ:www.malcolmturnbull.com.au/media/why-the-coalitions-nbn-plan-is-superior-and-why-it-will-be-better-for-the-b+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au

    Pretty much every claim has since been shown to be crap, yet it was swallowed by most of our media as scripture, even though simple facts exposed it as bullshit, thanks to Nick Ross, the only one who applied his knowledge of tech to the claims and showed they were rubbish. Other tech writers just worshiped at the feet of almighty mal the agile.

  104. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 20, 2016 3:45 pm

    But, if you want actual lies,

    Labor lied. Rudd said their election promise would cost $4.7B and be finished in 5 years( ie in 2013)

    They canned signed contracts for regional Australia who would have had broadband years ago and now we are being sued because Conroy broke the contract

  105. Tom R permalink
    January 20, 2016 4:16 pm

    who would have had broadband years ago

    As I said, that is, by the libs own evidence, bullshit.

    and now we are being sued

    tell me when they won something, until then, they got nothing.

  106. Tom R permalink
    January 20, 2016 4:18 pm

    Meanwhile, the shonks best friends want to curtail the best performers

    Industry funds top Chant West MySuper rankings

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/industry-funds-top-chant-west-mysuper-rankings-20160119-gm9mr7.html

  107. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2016 4:40 pm

    Industry Super Australia chief executive David Whiteley said the data “highlighted the ongoing underperformance of bank-owned super funds”.

    “The average difference in performance could translate into a difference of many thousands of dollars in Australians’ retirement savings,” he said.

    If it ain’t broke don’t “fix” it!

    Can these turkey do anything that’s POSITIVE for the “rest” of us?

    And a great big THANKS to sreb for reducing that photo of a fkn Cheshire Kat at the top of the fred!

    I almost got my darts out!

  108. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 20, 2016 5:36 pm

    As I said, that is, by the libs own evidence, bullshit.

    And this is Labors 2007 election promise

    Labor commits to investing up to $4.7 billion into a new high speed national broadband network for 98 per cent of Australians. This will be fibre optic to the node. 12 megabits per second – and capable of upscaling. It will be laid out over 5 years in partnership with the private sector. In the 19th century, nation builders laid out the railway network. In the 21st century, nation builders are laying out high speed broadband networks

    Bullshit.

    Lies just to win an election

  109. Tom R permalink
    January 20, 2016 5:37 pm

    If it ain’t broke don’t “fix” it!

    Except, Labor fixed it (well, they took steps), and the libs promptly broke it again.

    Looks like movement at the Nick Ross station (he has a few things to say in reply to the tweet

  110. Tom R permalink
    January 20, 2016 6:07 pm

    Lies just to win an election

    You forget, they took their upgraded version to the next election. And won.

    So, stop with the lies rubbish. It’s not backed up by reality

  111. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 20, 2016 6:19 pm

    You forget, they took their upgraded version to the next election. And won.

    So telling lies in 2007 to win an election is OK as long as they tell the truth at the next election.

    Guess what? I think Labor were telling lies again because that is what Labor does.

    Labor just tells lies to win elections. Always have always will.

  112. Tom R permalink
    January 20, 2016 6:41 pm

    nil, Labor tried to get the smaller version of the nbn going, so you cannot say they didn’t follow through with their election promise. Telstra wouldn’t come to the party

    Labor fixed it, and fixed the Telstra mess in prossess. And took the fix to an election.

    Up until the libs came and broke it again. Thanks malcayman

  113. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 20, 2016 6:49 pm

    Yada yada yada blah blah blah

    Why dont you go back to locking up 2,000 kids

    And the Coalition had a better broadband policy in 2007 but you voted against it.

  114. Tom R permalink
    January 20, 2016 7:08 pm

    Another bone 4 tone

    https://twitter.com/AdrianaCioci/media

  115. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2016 7:12 pm

  116. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2016 7:14 pm

  117. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2016 7:16 pm

  118. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2016 7:17 pm

  119. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2016 7:18 pm

  120. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2016 7:19 pm

  121. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2016 7:20 pm

  122. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2016 7:21 pm

    And the classic

  123. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 20, 2016 7:23 pm

    TB Of Queensland

    You locked up 2,000 kids.

    You should be apologising rather than giving your ignorant opinion.

    I know you want Labor to win the next election so you can start locking up kids again

  124. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2016 7:23 pm

    Yes it gets tedious … so does the mozzie … BANG!

  125. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 20, 2016 7:31 pm

    TB of Queensland

    I have posted this before but it needs to be posted again

    https://www.humanrights.gov.au/publications/asylum-seekers-refugees-and-human-rights-snapshot-report/2-onshore-detention-and

    2.4 Mental health impacts of detention

    Between January 2011 and February 2013 there were 4,313 incidents of actual, threatened and attempted serious self-harm recorded in immigration detention facilities in Australia.[73] In the 2012–2013 financial year there were 846 incidents of self-harm across the immigration detention network.[74]

    Between 1 July 2010 and 20 June 2013, there were 12 deaths in immigration detention facilities. Coroners have found that six of those deaths were suicides.[75]

    Every death, rape, murder and everything else is on your head because you voted for Rudd in 2007.

    TB you voted for everything that Happened in Rudd/Gillard detention centers

  126. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2016 8:51 pm

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz… boofhead!

  127. Tom R permalink
    January 20, 2016 9:32 pm

    boofhead!

    You spelt dickhead wrong TB

    justsayin’

  128. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2016 10:46 pm

    Its actually Dickwit@ ,TR, but that’s for those who know what it means … 😀

  129. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2016 10:49 pm

    Always worth a look …

    http://www.australiandebtclock.com.au/history

  130. January 20, 2016 11:04 pm

    l enjoyed todays squirting over `the-ronald` receiving sarah-palins support, it has the rest of the grand-old-loonies having quite an episode of teabag-panic #GUFFAW:-)

  131. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2016 10:11 am

  132. Tom R permalink
    January 21, 2016 10:58 am

    Then meet me there TB 😉

    “Hands Full of Money
    All in Debt”

    And, after dismantling Gonski, we have this.

    A worrying number of private schools are refusing to enrol students with a disability or asking them to leave, a peak advocacy group says.
    …………
    She said public schools accommodated 80 per cent of students with disabilities, and there should be a greater representation of these students in private schools.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/disabled-children-shut-out-of-private-schools-20160120-gma5f9.html#ixzz3xpej20Kb
    Follow us: @theage on Twitter | theageAustralia on Facebook

    Just ANOTHER reason why public schools should be getting more, and why Gonski was needed, now more than ever.

    But malcayman, the “lefty” PM, has killed it.

  133. Tom R permalink
    January 21, 2016 11:13 am

    How dumb is this idea? OR, is it just a devious way to destroy people superannuation … again!

    The plan would allow younger workers to retire their HELP debts using superannuation savings, then require them to make catch up super payments later in their career to ensure they were no worse off in retirement.

    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-21/morrison-urged-to-let-students-pay-study-debt-with-super/7103120

    How does putting off super until later in life help anyone? Oh wait, perhaps it does help “someone” 😉

    The ABC understands modelling from the Parliamentary Budget Office shows the idea would save in excess of $500 million over the forward estimates if included in this year’s budget.

  134. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 21, 2016 11:20 am

    Some links to peruse at your leisure today.

    Detailed analysis of NBN Co’s finances shows FTTP better value than FTTN:
    https://delimiter.com.au/2016/01/04/detailed-analysis-of-nbn-cos-finances-shows-fttp-better-value-than-fttn/

    The Inside Track: No, the ABC did not gag Nick Ross:
    https://delimiter.com.au/2016/01/15/the-inside-track-no-the-abc-did-not-gag-nick-ross/

    Truth: The Govt’s data retention project has already spun out of control:
    https://delimiter.com.au/2016/01/19/truth-the-govts-data-retention-project-has-already-spun-out-of-control/

    Truth: Simon Hackett proven right on “insane” NBN pricing, POIs
    https://delimiter.com.au/2016/01/14/truth-simon-hackett-proven-right-on-insane-nbn-pricing-pois/

    …History has proven Simon Hackett right: The pricing and Points of Interconnect models set up by the NBN company and the ACCC have helped destroy broadband competition in Australia and are actively helping Telstra re-establish its odious monopoly in an NBN world.
    blank…

  135. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 21, 2016 11:24 am

    Some links to peruse at your leisure today.

    You know team cheerer i think you know as much as i do about the NBN. That means almost nothing.

    You only support the NBN because your team supports it. I am against it because my team does not like it. But my team is right more times than your team is.

  136. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 21, 2016 11:32 am

    …How dumb is this idea? OR, is it just a devious way to destroy people superannuation … again! …

    As the young adults get older, they tend to take on more debt, house, children etc, they won’t be able to afford the extra payments later. This is a blatant cash grab upon our youth [again].

    It’s disgusting tomR, shows the contempt that the libs have for young people and the base ideology, they have never supported superannuation for workers.

    If the population doesn’t start screaming about the ongoing attacks upon the working population [and no reduction in rorts for the wealthy] then they are just sleepwalking or so fkn exploited, already slaves to the corporate monster that they can’t raise the energy to protest.

  137. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 21, 2016 11:39 am

    You know team cheerer i think you know as much as i do about the NBN. That means almost nothing.

    I know it was a fantastic vision to take us into the future and that it has been destroyed by politicians who should be strung up for their neglect and irresponsible failure to deliver on a national asset.

    You do know that it’s health programs that won’t be able to run to their full potential with the dud NBN don’t you?

    Perhaps I do know a little more about it than you then.

  138. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 21, 2016 11:41 am

    You only support the NBN because your team supports it.

    Which team is that?

  139. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 21, 2016 11:46 am

    You do know that it’s health programs that won’t be able to run to their full potential with the dud NBN don’t you?

    No i do not know. But i do know you only support the NBN because your team supports it even if lives are destroyed.

    The Coalition had a broadband program in 2007 which you voted against

  140. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2016 11:50 am

    “Hands Full of Money
    All in Debt”

    Don’t laugh we’ve just been checking our super … and this fkn market … I used to think that Keating had a brilliant plan but I now know he threw us to the wolves … of Wall St and China!

    Anyhoo my calculators tell me all is well … just!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    And, after dismantling Gonski, we have this.

    Have the Liberals constructed anything useful yet?

    Like ISIL they just seem to wander around blowing stuff up!

    She said public schools accommodated 80 per cent of students with disabilities, and there should be a greater representation of these students in private schools.

    And I have it from the horse’s mouth that the local catlyk school ebcourages kids with disabilities for the FUNDING!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    then require them to make catch up super payments

    That’s if they can get a job?????

    (Good news in our neck of the woods tho’ … last year’s high school grad (two more to go) has been offered his double degree in Business/Science (Maths) by UQ … much excitement) … he’s still hoping QUT will come good with Business/Maths … oh, to have choices!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It’s disgusting tomR, shows the contempt that the libs have for young people and the base ideology, they have never supported superannuation for workers.

    Agree, KL, because they can pay upfront for their kids to go to uni and get a 10% discount to do it … and if you’ve got enough locked up in the Cayman’s you’ll never need no be eligible for the age pension … so they simply don’t GAFF!

    I think they see it as if they aren’t trying to make someone else miserable then they will be miserable …

    You can’t buy happiness … but if you’ve got enough money you can rent it … !

    I prefer to live in a society … not survive in a shonky economy!

  141. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 21, 2016 11:57 am

    It’s disgusting tomR, shows the contempt that the libs have for young people and the base ideology, they have never supported superannuation for workers.

    Coalition supporters have always been suspicious of Superannuation. 9.5% of our wages are taken from us when we could be using it to pay off our home loans.

    Not necessarily against it but i am suspicious.

  142. Tom R permalink
    January 21, 2016 12:05 pm

    I read the delimiter article “The Inside Track: No, the ABC did not gag Nick Ross” the other day ao, and was gobsmacked. It is just Renai making a conjecture, saying he knows more than anyone else, and therefore, Ross is making it up. From the comments

    According to his post in the comments above, he didn’t even post anything substantive behind the paywall; he still knows more than us, apparently.

    He has lost a lot of readership over that article, as he should. He has been a lickspittle for malcayman for a long time. Leading up to the election, he was very accommodating and it is only after the election and after he got his site going again he started examining it clearly. But then he does this.

    Personally, I think he bells the cat when he mentions his drive to get into the press gallery. And article like that, making an absolute pronouncement like that and refusing to put any evidence whatsoever about it into an article (paywalled or not) sits quite well with our current press galleries operation.

    Just take his word for it, and that’s it.

    The dumbest thing is, he even claimed that it seemed the abc had been silenced a long time ago. All of a sudden, on the eve of his press gallery drive, he comes out with this.

    With friends like that…….

  143. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 21, 2016 12:11 pm

    Team cheerleader is out in force again.

    My observation is that Labor supporters do not care about people.

  144. Tom R permalink
    January 21, 2016 12:11 pm

    lol@nil

  145. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 21, 2016 12:15 pm

    The Coalition had a broadband program in 2007 which you voted against

    Yes, i put the national interests before partisan political parties.

    Coalition supporters have always been suspicious of Superannuation. 9.5% of our wages are taken from us when we could be using it to pay off our home loans.

    And tell me, if you are a PAYE worker and haven’t had the opportunity though family wealth to enrich yourself, if you have to do it all by yourself, what would support you in your retirement days, if you haven’t had superannuation?
    You can’t eat a house.

    Unlike you, I don’t support a particular party, I support policies and the common good.

    The coalition policies are a direct assault on workers, their wages & conditions and the education & livelihoods of their children.

  146. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 21, 2016 12:17 pm

    My observation is that Labor supporters do not care about people.

    My observation is that liberal supporters have no idea, they vote against their own interests, they have been fooled from cradle to grave, they think that voting liberal is a status symbol!

  147. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 21, 2016 12:19 pm

    It is just Renai making a conjecture, saying he knows more than anyone else, and therefore, Ross is making it up. From the comments

    That’s my opinion too tomR, I thought I should share the link though.

    Gotta go, work beckons!

  148. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 21, 2016 12:20 pm

    AO/Kittylitter

    Please speak English.

    And the Coalition broadband policy in 2007 that was good for Australia. But YOU voted against it

  149. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 21, 2016 12:43 pm

    Not my fault that you can only speak & understand coalition gobbledygook neil.
    You’re the kind of person they rely upon to get over the line – cognitive impaired.

  150. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 21, 2016 12:47 pm

    Yep. Cannot admit you were wrong.

    And guess what? You will never admit you were wrong.

  151. Tom R permalink
    January 21, 2016 1:08 pm

    Cannot admit you were wrong.

    😆

  152. Tom R permalink
    January 21, 2016 1:32 pm

  153. January 21, 2016 2:54 pm

    Hey twatface Neil…

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  154. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2016 5:04 pm

    and the USA now has a lower unemployment figure than Oz … after GFC in 2008 the USA collapsed to 10% now recovered to 5%!

    Oz now 5.8!

    And the Liberals watch and wonder at how business could slowly whither and die now they are in “charge” …

    Here’s a clue to the clueless … ’cause they sit on their shiny arses and talk instead of listening and doing …

  155. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 21, 2016 5:12 pm

    Labor had lowest Unemployment in OECD

    Don’t blame Swan for that, it had nothing to do with him.

  156. Tom R permalink
    January 21, 2016 6:26 pm

    it had nothing to do with him.

    Are you able to explain how the Treasurer of the country, who launches a massive stimulus to create jobs, has nothing to do with the unemployment rate?

  157. Tom R permalink
    January 21, 2016 6:35 pm

    “realpolitik” OR, how malcayman bullies to hide his destruction of Australia’s future

    ……….despite “having no problems” with the specific story, he (Belsham) can’t publish it because “the Turnbull camp and my superiors will come down on me like a tonne of bricks”.

    https://newmatilda.com/2016/01/21/false-balance-abc-news-boss-directed-journalist-nick-ross-to-target-alps-nbn-plan-for-insurance-against-coalition-attacks/

    malcayman has a long history of bullying our public broadcasters, so these claims should come as not surprise. What should come as a surprise is that theirabc buckled to it.

  158. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 21, 2016 8:24 pm

    Are you able to explain how the Treasurer of the country, who launches a massive stimulus to create jobs, has nothing to do with the unemployment rate current debt level?

    …there fixed if for you.

  159. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 21, 2016 8:51 pm

    Oz now 5.8!

    And it was at 5.8% in 2013 when Rudd lost office and it was at 4.3% when Labor won govt in 2007.

  160. January 21, 2016 8:57 pm

    zombie,,,,,I am against it because my team does not like it,,,,,

  161. Tom R permalink
    January 21, 2016 9:45 pm

    current debt level?

    Level of debt doesn’t help your argument that Swan had nothing to do with low unemployment, in fact, it kind of does the opposite.

    I’m not denying the level of debt went up. But, is it better to have low debt, and high unemployment, or high debt, and low unemployment.

    But what about a high debt level, with an accompanying high level of unemployment? It is now 5.8 (if you can believe the numbers even the ones doing them tell us is a guess) Hows that debt? The one that would have been cleared if Labors policies had remained.

  162. Tom R permalink
    January 21, 2016 9:47 pm

  163. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 21, 2016 9:48 pm

    It is now 5.8

    And that is what Labor left us with in 2013.

    In 2007 it was 4.3%. Hundreds of thousands of people lost their jobs under Rudd/Gillard

  164. Tom R permalink
    January 21, 2016 9:50 pm

    The nobn blackout is everywhere

  165. January 21, 2016 9:54 pm

    delimiter.click.bait.and.membership.drive,,,,,,,,The Inside Track: No, the ABC did not gag Nick Ross .. By Renai LeMay .. To get access to the rest of this article, you’ll need to become a member of Delimiter,,,,,,,,

  166. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2016 9:55 pm

    has nothing to do with the unemployment rate current debt level?

    …there fixed if for you.

    So you prefer tens of thousands of ordinary people to be out of work … standing in line for GOVERNMENT handouts that YOU pay for … as someone with Economics qualifications you certainly don’t understand HISTORY …

    Had we followed the Liberal “tighten the belt” philosophy we would be challenging Greece for it economic place in the OECD right now …

  167. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2016 9:58 pm

    In 2007 it was 4.3%. Hundreds of thousands of people lost their jobs under Rudd/Gillard

    Classic LIberal mindset … I don’t remember 2008 GFC!

  168. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 21, 2016 9:59 pm

    Had we followed the Liberal “tighten the belt” philosophy we would be challenging Greece for it economic place in the OECD right now …

    Says the man who voted for Keating when unemployment was at 11%. The highest rate since the great depression.

  169. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2016 10:00 pm

    … you’ll need to become a member of Delimiter,,,,,,,,

    Just read the comments, tbagz!

    That’s enough …

  170. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2016 10:01 pm

    mozzies brains are the size of a needle point … bbbbbbzzzzznnnnn zzz … GRENADE!

  171. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 21, 2016 10:24 pm

    Had we followed the Liberal “tighten the belt” philosophy we would be challenging Greece for it economic place in the OECD right now …

    Had we had Costello during the GFC unemployment would be below 5% and our budget would be in much better shape.

    And we would not have locked up 2,000 kids like you did.

  172. January 21, 2016 10:49 pm

    1. fiber to user is superior technology to the copper-class-hodge-podge

    2. the `return-on-investment` and `X% cheaper` are known fraudulent arguments to those of us that know Aust infrastructure history, NEED was the reason for electric, phone, sewer, water, and snowy, (all would have failed under ROI and `X%` cheaper in their day) NEED is also the reason for nbn

    3. politicians chanting mindlessly `ROI`, `X% cheaper`, and other corporate slogans and buzz-words only show they don`t know there is(and meant to be) a difference between government and corporations

    #Yeah TB/AO, l checked all 4 delimiters, and didn`t deflect, change, add or subtract from my core (1+2+3 above) view on the nbn or/and it`s progress

  173. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2016 12:01 am

    If Queensland NIckel expect a bailout … why do we have private enterprise at all … big companies don’t pay tax on profits but expect taxpayers to pick up the bill for corporate losses … why don’t we all own the fkn things from the start?

    Oh, wait … greed fkd that idea too …

    How wonderful is the market economy?*

    Nothing changes … nothing is new …

    Remember Barter Card … greed killed that idea as well … and legislation …

  174. January 22, 2016 8:18 am

    Oh Teabags, lt`s so shameful. First `roy` starts agreeing with me, now `matilda` is too. *sigh*

    matilda,,,,,,New Matilda also received a response from Alan Sunderland, ABC Director Editorial Policies, in relation to a specific inquiry from New Matilda that ABC journalists are operating in a climate of fear, and that the organisation has built a

    culture of `false balance` in order to be able to manage the political attacks on the ABC.,,,,,,,

    https://newmatilda.com/2016/01/21/false-balance-abc-news-boss-directed-journalist-nick-ross-to-target-alps-nbn-plan-for-insurance-against-coalition-attacks/

    alan replied,,,,,,but it doesn`t involve `false balance` or giving all sides in a discussion the same weight,,,,,,

    #GUFFAW .. WHO THE FCUK DOES ALAN THINK HE`S FOOLING? #only.himself

  175. January 22, 2016 8:25 am

    reddit,,,,,,,,,,One of the more interesting exchanges in the meeting – and the one most likely to incite fury in the tech community – is when Belsham delivers his own views on the NBN.

    BB: … I do think that for a range of reasons, that plan, [Labor’s] NBN plan, is not going to be the one the country gets.

    NR: Well only if everyone was uninformed about it, I would have thought.

    BB: No, well that’s, that may or may not be the case. But in the end the NBN and the NBN company will be a failure, however you categorise it.

    NR: I couldn’t disagree more.

    BB Oh, It will be a failure.

    NR: How?

    BB: It will be a failure, because it won’t be delivered and that’s a marketing and political failure.

    This was FOUR MONTHS before the election.,,,,,,,,

    https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/41yv79/nick_ross_story_abc_directed_journalist_to_target/?ref=readnext

    #reddit user `teheditor` is nick ross

  176. January 22, 2016 8:43 am

    matilda,,,,,,,,In the lead up to the 2013 federal election, amid a fierce political debate between the major parties over the roll out of the National Broadband Network, an ABC editor-journalis(#ross)t was directed by his boss(#alan) to find any story he could that was critical of the Labor Party`s NBN Plan in order to provide `insurance` against attacks on the ABC by the Coalition.,,,,,,,

    #alan seems to be a bit of a `weak-cnut`, technology is not political, there will not be a single `foot` of fiber-cable voting for either team, too bad sweet alan didn`t have the nads to just ensure technology-fact was reported

  177. January 22, 2016 8:50 am

    oooops .. January 22, 2016 8:43 am BRUCE, not alan

    matilda,,,,,,meeting between Nick Ross, the ABC’s former Games and Technology Editor, and Bruce Belsham, the Head of ABC’s Current Affairs division,,,,,,

  178. January 22, 2016 9:26 am

    from what l can see, my friends of my abc are still `dormant` on the ross/nbn issue

  179. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2016 11:02 am

    from what l can see, my friends of my abc are still `dormant` on the ross/nbn issue

    They all are, even the Guardian

    The smaller ones (those not permitted to join the Press Gallery) have taken it up. But that’s about it

    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/turnbulls-media-censorship-and-his-nbn-mess,8600

    They’ll do the ashbygate treatment by the looks. Leave it until the NoBN is beyond repair, and then put some dribs out.

    I thought that maybe murdor would go the attack on ross, but they seem to be playing the ‘son’t look, don’t see” reportage tactic.

    As some have posited, the abc have been exposed to have actively helped get this grubmint elected, along with murdor and farfacts

    A totally beholded msm, who have led the country by the nose. Pitchfork time?

  180. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2016 11:07 am

    Perhaps we need another thread, “abc fears talcum”

    Although, it seems they have feared the libs, collectively, for some time now.

    https://newmatilda.com/2015/06/21/bad-aunty-seven-years-how-abc-lateline-sparked-racist-nt-intervention/

  181. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2016 11:14 am

    Had we had Costello during the GFC unemployment would be below 5% and our budget would be in much better shape.

    Tip Custard only had to count the money as it was raked in … and even then he lost $10 BILLION!

    He didn’t see the “tsunami” until it was way too late and the Liberals policy even then was one of austerity … not to keep the economy churning …

    The present economy is being vacuumed dry and will eventually stall and founder if those sucking it up don’t start paying their way … and putting money back into THEIR economy …

    The wider the gap between the rich and poor the slower the economy and the worse the country performs …

    $$ sitting in the coffers of The Robber Barons waiting for the “right opportunity” does nothing … and living and using society’s infrastructure and facilities for free must end!

  182. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2016 12:25 pm

    Milestone today … we have now amortised the cost of our solar system,

    From now on its all PROFIT!

    On another note the BCC are nearing the completion of an aqua-centre near here … I keep waiting to see the large water storage tanks being install. Might be a long wait, methinks …

    How quickly people forget …

  183. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2016 12:31 pm

    He didn’t see the “tsunami” until it was way too late

    He didn’t see the “tsunami” at all TB, he thought it was China that was going to implode. Which, is even scarier, as he had banked everything on them growing.

  184. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2016 12:45 pm

    we have now amortised the cost of our solar system

    But did you take into account a new planet that throws out our conception of the Solar System? 😉

    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/01/feature-astronomers-say-neptune-sized-planet-lurks-unseen-solar-system

  185. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 22, 2016 12:46 pm

    Tip Custard only had to count the money as it was raked in

    Has it ever crossed you mind that it was wise spending and good management that lead to Costello success?

    He didn’t see the “tsunami” until it was way too late

    Swan was preparing his May 2008 budget (his first) and did not see the GFC coming only a few months away. His budget was a budget to fight inflation.

    Your comments just further emphasize your deceitfulness.

  186. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 22, 2016 12:55 pm

    “…Has it ever crossed you mind that it was wise spending and good management that lead to Costello success?…”

    Costello left a huge problem for future governments with his middle class welfare.
    John Howard was bribing people to vote for him and the result is structural deficits for future govt. Very short term thinking.

  187. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2016 1:13 pm

    Your comments just further emphasize your deceitfulness.

    And your comments further emphasise your addled perception of the world as it really is …

  188. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 22, 2016 1:26 pm

    And your comments further emphasise your addled perception of the world as it really is …

    No TB your comments are deceitful. Costello was not in power when the GFC happened. Rudd was. And the ALP in May 2008 produced a budget to fight inflation not the GFC which they did not see coming just a few months latter.

    Why don’t you go back to locking up 2,000 kids.

  189. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2016 1:31 pm

    Here’s the April 2013 #NBN article

    A few years too late AO.

    Imagine what an electorate informed with accurate articles might have voted like in 2013? #NBN #Gonski #CarbonPrice #TaxRorts

    Costello was not in power when the GFC happened.

    Thank fuck for that. Speaking of which, yommy hasn’t come back with an explanation yet? Surprisement much?

  190. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2016 1:35 pm

    Imagine what an electorate informed with accurate articles might have voted like in 2013? #NBN #Gonski #CarbonPrice #TaxRorts

    The current NBN plans sees $27bn being invested on behalf of the tax payer but as can be seen, if the average revenue per user is met (and it doesn’t look particularly ambitious – especially with business customers being included in the figures) then the tax payer gets all of that money back plus around seven per cent profit.

    However, the Coalition still seeks to spend $20bn of public money on its alternative but it isn’t clear how that will be repaid

    http://www.itwire.com/it-industry-news/telecoms-and-nbn/71165-issues-with-coalition-nbn-costs-2013-exclusive

    (cheers ao) 😉

  191. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 22, 2016 1:38 pm

    Thank fuck for that

    Why? Unemployment and debt would be lower if Howard won in 2007.

    You should be like TB and go back and work out ways to lock up 2,000 kids.

    Everything you people do destroys the lives of people

  192. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2016 1:44 pm

    Ah well, TR … seems Kneel is the only RWNJ still commenting here … maybe the others have figured out what a fkn mess Abbott & Turnbull have made of country …

  193. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 22, 2016 1:52 pm

    maybe the others have figured out what a fkn mess Abbott & Turnbull have made of country …

    Get stuffed you immoral piece of filth. The economic numbers have not changed since 2013. unemployment is the same (5.8%) and the budget deficit is smaller.

    600,000 souls lost their jobs under Rudd/Gillard. 2,000 kids were locked up. Debt exploded. Unemployment went from 4.3% to 5.8% in no time flat. Rudd/Gillard were an economic disaster

  194. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 22, 2016 3:08 pm

    Apparently some people think Abbott is misogynist.

    Yeah, if only we had accepted the assurance of the ALP and made Mark Latham Our Prime Minister…

    During his one-off “Lathamland” show, the former Labor leader said men used domestic violence as a “coping mechanism” and described the issue of being a political bargaining chip for a “feminist left”.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/mark-latham-blasted-by-white-ribbon-over-domestic-violence-comments-20160122-gmbsyc.html#ixzz3xwVkhOxy

  195. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2016 3:10 pm

    Get stuffed you immoral piece of filth

    Oh, dear …

    Obviously a catlyk mozzie …

    To the left then …

  196. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2016 3:17 pm

    Apparently some people think Abbott is misogynist.

    Yeah, if only we had accepted the assurance of the ALP and made Mark Latham Our Prime Minister…

    The Mad Abbott is demonstrably a misogynist …

    …and …

    Latham was/is just a Fuckwit™ who is only quoted by right wing ideologues … to try and make a point … sometimes …

    Your point (or two?) being? The Mad Abbott is a misogynist and Latham was/is just a Fuckwit™?

    See you can get stuff right … 😀

  197. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 22, 2016 3:22 pm

    so Tb mocks 600,000 souls who lost their jobs because he voted for Rudd in 2007. Says what i always knew about TB

  198. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 22, 2016 3:31 pm

    Has there ever been a conservative politician who basically said – domestic violence is due to men having self esteem issues and it’s a left feminist issue?

    That has to be the most outrageous example of misogyny, but you TB would have recommended a vote for him.

    HE’S A F**KING MISOGYNIST, NOT MERELY A F***WIT

  199. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2016 3:41 pm

    latham is a misogynist, therefore, yabot isn’t

    Hard to argue against that sound reasoning 😯

    The second NM article is up.

    https://newmatilda.com/2016/01/22/false-balance-abc-coverage-of-the-nbn-since-september-2013/

    This begs the question: how has the ABC covered the NBN since the election of the Coalition?

    New Matilda has analysed ABC coverage of the NBN since September 2013. A total of 1,289 articles with the search term “NBN” listed by the search database Factiva were perused. Articles were read for content and for political skew, both in terms of partisan politics and in regards to the technology controversies that continue to dog the network. Needless to say, this was a qualitative analysis.

    No party-political skew is apparent – the ABC can’t be said to be more positive towards the Coalition than to Labor in terms of the aggregates.

    But after a close reading of much of the ABC’s coverage, what emerges is a pattern of relatively positive coverage of the Malcolm Turnbull’s policy agenda. In covering the NBN, the ABC has tended to make a relatively critical assessment of the NBN under Labor, and, in contrast, a relatively benign assessment of the progress of the NBN under the Coalition.

  200. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2016 5:19 pm

    But did you take into account a new planet that throws out our conception of the Solar System?

    I’d forgotten about this very clever comment, TR!

    And I’ve forgotten my reply but I know it included Uranus somehow … 😉

    ____________________________________________________________

    That has to be the most outrageous example of misogyny, but you TB would have recommended a vote for him.

    You have proof of that … I have always detested the man …

    HE’S A F**KING MISOGYNIST, NOT MERELY A F***WIT

    Shouting at me even tho’ I agree … was it something I said? Or my catlyk remark again?

    _____________________________________________________________

    Now here’s another true Fuckwit™ …

    so Tb mocks 600,000 souls who lost their jobs

    Why is it that tories always attempt to write something untrue that you supposedly said when you didn’t say it … to bolster their twisted opinion … I only mock certain commenters here – can you guess which one’s, kiddies?

    😀

  201. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2016 8:37 pm

    Turncoat 81%

    Shortfall 19%

    BUT do the electorate know that the 2014 Budget LIVES … don’t dare get sick … your medication has just taken a massive hike!

    Nothing has changed … The Mad Abbott still controls your DESTINY! Not Milkum Turncoat … he’s just the smiley face behind the SINISTER Liberal policies …

  202. January 22, 2016 9:02 pm

    teabag,,,,,Apparently some people think Abbott is misogynist,,,,,

    #He was a wonderful minister for chicks. The chicks were thrilled.

  203. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 22, 2016 11:28 pm

    …During his one-off “Lathamland” show, the former Labor leader said men used domestic violence as a “coping mechanism”

    Oh, well ok then, just batter away if it makes them feel better and release the tensions! 🙄
    That would have to be one of the most stupid things ever said, defending males because they react with violence to any problems or stressors.

    Perhaps men could try and practice some self control and not take their ‘stresses’ out on their partners and kids. Perhaps they could have some therapy or see a GP – they’re not hard to find.

    What does Latham think the victims of this domestic terror should do for their stress?

    Latham gets rolled out by the media and the anti PC RWNJ’s these days when they want to have a go at the feminists, he’s pretty predictable and he plays up to it. Organ grinder monkey singing & dancing to the tune of his employer! He must be selling his soul these days, being a stay-at-home-dad has made him angry and sexist.

    teabag,,,,,Apparently some people think Abbott is misogynist,,,,,

    It would be hard for anyone to defend his sexism over the years I would think, there’s so much of it on public record. Abbott’s particular brand of aggressive ‘muscular christianity’ his deep faith and commitment to the catholic church [misogynistic in itself] and his lifelong commitment to fighting against a secular world [equality between sexes, homosexual recognition & acceptance, and secular government]

  204. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 23, 2016 12:00 am

    The plot thickens in the ABC’s NBN (lack of) coverage:
    http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/414038,the-plot-thickens-in-the-abcs-nbn-lack-of-coverage.aspx#ixzz3xyg5S3HM
    http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/414038,the-plot-thickens-in-the-abcs-nbn-lack-of-coverage.aspx#ixzz3xyfoFS8g

    …I fundamentally disagree that technology reporting is the same as reporting on social issues or current affairs. In many cases, a technical plan is either good or bad. It’s not generally subjective. There is certainly a best case scenario with the NBN and it’s been proven time and time again. Labor’s NBN was the subject of extraordinary amounts of FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) and mis-reporting for years up until it lost the 2013 election, with the Coalition keeping much of the detail of its plan vague until the lead up to election day itself.

    In the end, this comes down to ideology. The MTM (Multi Technology Mix) was never going to be cheaper or faster; Ross knew this. Many technology outlets that weren’t required to pat the Coalition on the back noted this. The plan relied heavily on the idea that the existing technology did not require much to bring it up to spec, which, again, was called on and has turned out to be a furphy. Most of the blowouts have been due to suspected copper remediation costs, higher costs for nodes and more upgrades to the HFC network…

  205. TB Queensland permalink
    January 23, 2016 12:11 am

    The Liberals will want to redesign cars to accept leaded fuel next …

  206. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 23, 2016 12:16 am

    I can recall thinking that there was nothing much being said about the NBN at all when the Libs came to power, it was as if the NBN was wrapped in silence. No criticisms were being published and no praise either, just silence. Except for the techie’s on social media, they always knew the coalition plan wouldn’t and couldn’t work.

    Analysis: The destruction of the NBN
    by James Pinnell | Monday 7 December 2015
    http://www.pcauthority.com.au/Feature/412733,analysis-the-destruction-of-the-nbn.aspx#ixzz3xyhJqEOv

    …From one of Australia’s best political ideas to a smouldering mess of ideology trumping the good of nation, the NBN looks likely to fail in almost spectacular fashion…

    FALSE BALANCE: ABC coverage of the NBN since September 2013
    https://newmatilda.com/2016/01/22/false-balance-abc-coverage-of-the-nbn-since-september-2013/

    …This is the second in a series of articles from New Matilda about tech journo Nick Ross and the ABC’s NBN coverage. Read Part One.

    In a blog post yesterday, John Menadue, a former Secretary of the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet (and the original founder of New Matilda more than a decade ago) argued that the ABC’s coverage of the NBN under the Coalition has been below par.

    “There is a continuing pattern of failure by the mainstream media to expose the mess that Malcolm Turnbull has left us in the NBN,” Menadue wrote…

  207. January 23, 2016 1:14 am

    For those with some grasp on technology and reality,

    l have noticed one aspect being over-looked in the nbn-noise, while copper will be a dud aspect which is high-lighted, l haven`t seen anything on pay-tv cable, which l think will be part of the copper-class hodge-podge. From what l remember, galaxy-cable, rupert-cable, optus-cable and the rest of the pay-tv cable is sub-standard to rudds-rollout too. Anybody seen anything on galaxy-cable/etc? (compared to fiber)

  208. January 23, 2016 10:17 am

    BOARDROOMS SHOULD KILL WHO THEY WANT TO

    my-abc,,,,,,,,The men’s deaths brought the state’s workplace death toll to 16 people in less than six months.

    In the previous financial year, 22 West Australians died at work, the highest number in seven years.,,,,,,,,

    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-22/jaxon-construction-industry-poor-safety-standards-whistleblower/7098220

  209. January 23, 2016 10:20 am

    HORSE-SHIT OF THE WEEK

    limited-news,,,,,,,,,,JULIE Bishop will urge America`s top businesses to invest in Australian innovation(#GUFFAW), using a landmark speech to declare the nation`s future is bigger than mining.

    In her first pitch to the lucrative US market since the Turnbull Government announced a $1 billion innovation(#GUFFAW) package, Ms Bishop will today tell top American business chiefs that the world`s next top creators can be from Australia.

    The Foreign Minister will hold meetings in the US aimed at driving investment and entrepreneurship in Australia ahead of the celebrity G`Day US gala next week in LA.

    Ms Bishop`s bid to drive investment down under will coincide with Hollywood celebrity Chris Hemsworth launching Tourism Australia`s new campaign in New York on the eve of Australia Day.

    Today`s pitch, attended by Fortune 500 companies, will see Ms Bishop describe a new wave of innovation(#GUFFAW) coming out Australia.

    “We are unleashing the full potential of our entrepreneurs and our high value-added creative industries onto the global market,” she says.,,,,,,,,,,,,

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business/companies/how-foreign-minister-julie-bishop-will-woo-americas-top-businesses-to-invest-in-australia/news-story/28fb716d7094845c490650352c87dfb0?nk=1fd855fb4235db375068cb0f10d9a1ea-1453503355

  210. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 23, 2016 1:31 pm

    I can recall thinking that there was nothing much being said about the NBN at all when the Libs came to power, it was as if the NBN was wrapped in silence.

    It is still Labors NBN. However the Coalition is doing FTTN rather than FTTP. Meaning instead of digging up every street in Australia, streets will only be dug up to the street cornet. From the corner the already installed telephone lines will be used. That has to be cheaper and faster to build.

  211. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 23, 2016 1:38 pm

    Everyone hates Shorten. Mr 19% for good reason.

  212. TB Queensland permalink
    January 23, 2016 1:56 pm

    That has to be cheaper and faster to build.

    And that comment dramatically highlights the ignorance of every other comment you have made concerning the NBN!

  213. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 23, 2016 2:13 pm

    And how much would it cost to build FTTP? Is the extra price worth the supposed speed increase?

    Labor supporters say yes.

  214. A Bit Slow permalink
    January 23, 2016 5:03 pm

    Is the extra price worth the supposed speed increase?

    Is the extra price worth the supposed BANDWIDTH increase?

    ITC literacy supporters say yes.

  215. January 23, 2016 8:07 pm

    zombie,,,,,,It is still Labors NBN,,,,,,

    #nope it the teabag mangled mess, (no node, no copper in rudds-rollout, 100%-fiber)

  216. January 23, 2016 8:27 pm

    zombie,,,,,,That has to be cheaper,,,,,,

    #nope, it will end-up costing more, double to triple when the fiber upgrades go thru, and then there is the `cost` of losing `atlassian` and others that won`t be able to host their servers at `their` location, but hey, keep chanting the mindless zombie-lines even tho you have been well and truly arse-fcuked by `your-team`, so has ya`kids and grandkids

  217. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 23, 2016 8:32 pm

    #nope it the teabag mangled mess, (no node, no copper in rudds-rollout, 100%-fiber)

    Why should anybody believe anything Labor says? This was their 2007 election policy

    Labor commits to investing up to $4.7 billion into a new high speed national broadband network for 98 per cent of Australians. This will be fibre optic to the node. 12 megabits per second – and capable of upscaling. It will be laid out over 5 years in partnership with the private sector. In the 19th century, nation builders laid out the railway network. In the 21st century, nation builders are laying out high speed broadband networks.

    It went nowhere. NBN1 was a lie. Now we have Labors NBN 2. The current policy was thought up by Conroy/Rudd on the back of a drinks coaster on a plane flight from Sydney to Brisbane.

    And we are stuck with it because Labor signed unbreakable contracts

  218. January 23, 2016 8:52 pm

    so which teabag site/s did you copy`n paste that clap-trap from (yesl can tell it`s not your own words), l see you didn`t have the nads to include the link/url

  219. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 23, 2016 9:04 pm

    so which teabag site/s did you copy`n paste that clap-trap from (yesl can tell it`s not your own words), l see you didn`t have the nads to include the link/url

    It was the 2007 ALP election policy which fooled all of Australia. A lie to win an election. Also you could have done a cut and paste and done a google search

  220. January 23, 2016 9:24 pm

    zombie,,,,,,you could have done a cut and paste and done a google,,,,,,

    #the `onus` is not on me (or anybody else) to google for teabag-links to match zombie text, the `onus` is on the zombie to supply the link

    #can`t see video/youtube/audio, it`s stripped-out of my computer, permanently

  221. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 23, 2016 9:34 pm

    can`t see video/youtube/audio, it`s stripped-out of my computer, permanently

    Why? Just copy and paste this

    Labor commits to investing up to $4.7 billion into a new high speed national broadband network for 98 per cent of Australians. This will be fibre optic to the node. 12 megabits per second – and capable of upscaling.

    Youtube link = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW2eK3sk7tE

    It was the biggest lie to win an election. Broadband costing only $4.7B and be finished by 2013

  222. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 23, 2016 10:01 pm

    so which teabag site/s did you copy`n paste that clap-trap from

    It was the official ALP policy which Rudd took to the 2007 election. The words are almost a word for word post of what Kevin Rudd said.

    Just copy and post the text.

  223. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 23, 2016 10:41 pm

    l see you didn`t have the nads to include the link/url

    I didn’t think i needed the “nads” because the words were spoken by Kevin Rudd and was the official policy the ALP took to the 2007 election.

  224. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 23, 2016 10:57 pm

    …It is still Labors NBN. However the Coalition is doing FTTN rather than FTTP…

    The public want the NBN, don’t we get a say in any of this? The only way we can get decent policy is by ditching the libs and their vested interests?

  225. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 23, 2016 10:59 pm

    Labor supporters say yes.

    A lot of liberal supporters say yes too.

  226. January 24, 2016 12:18 am

    AO,,,,,,liberal supporters say yes too,,,,,,,

    #l agree armchair, kevin07 was quite shrewd by putting fiber to user on the north shore in eleventy`s, bronny-copter`s and mr-rabbit`s seats, nothing will piss-off their voters more than their businesses in the west unable to have fiber-speed benefits that their own kids at home have, both the copper-class-leader and credlin and her puppet have been fully wedged by their own nonsense:-)

  227. TB Queensland permalink
    January 24, 2016 9:38 am

    Milkum Turncoat may have the poll numbers … but is this what we’ll end up with?

    … an “illiberal democracy.” …

    “You’re supposed to listen, not listen in,” read one of the banners. The proposed changes would expand the government’s access to digital data and loosen the legal framework of using surveillance in law enforcement.

    The ruling party, which scored a landmark election victory in October, says it has to swiftly amend the bill in order to implement a constitutional court ruling.

    “Our privacy, intimacy is under threat, we can be followed, watched over both in our homes, and online,”

    http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/poles-rally-against-new-surveillance-law/news-story/6dc54f7729f44408d0865e7982ca9239

  228. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 24, 2016 12:56 pm

    God is money, we need to become atheists.

    By every meaningful measure, today’s elites are gods. This should make us angry
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/21/by-every-meaningful-measure-todays-elites-are-gods-this-should-make-us-angry

    …Today, though, the notion that our 62 god-kings can be in any way constrained or controlled by Joe and Jane Citizen dropping their votes in a ballot box is too ludicrous for serious contemplation. On the contrary, the multibillionaire relates to the pauper as predator does to its prey, with the vast human flock simply a resource that, in Pushkin’s phrase, can be “either slaughtered or shorn”…

    …Warren Buffett puts it like this: “Sure there is class war, and it is my class, the rich, who are making it and we are winning.”…

    …In an era such as ours, it’s easy for progressives to develop a protective layer of cynicism, an ironic detachment predicated on the conviction that nothing can actually be changed.. But we can’t afford that now.t’s way past time to rediscover some anger…

  229. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 24, 2016 1:17 pm

  230. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 24, 2016 2:35 pm

    so which teabag site/s did you copy`n paste that clap-trap from (yesl can tell it`s not your own words), l

    Clap-trap? I copied and pasted the words of Kevin Rudd from the 2007 election launch of Labors NBN policy. It should be noted it was just a lie to win the election. After the election the policy went nowhere. The policy let us call it NBN1, was thrown into the bin.

    The current policy let us call it NBN 2, was thought up on a plane flight and written down on a drinks coaster during a plane flight from Sydney to Melbourne. The drinks coaster should be framed.

    This NBN was a disaster from the beginning.

  231. TB Queensland permalink
    January 24, 2016 7:29 pm

    armchair opinionator permalink

    January 24, 2016 1:17 pm

    KL

    I remember the look of fear on my mother’s face as she literally dragged me to the village doctor in a long queue of similar mothers and children … when the UK had a smallpox outbreak in the early 1950’s (I guess was five yo) … and visiting some of my childhood friends who had succumbed to poliomyelitis …

    Between six and seven years old I experienced whooping cough, measles, German measles and chickenpox … I can assure the memory of that (and the foundation learning I lost at primary school) has had a profound impact on my life …

    My own children suffered measles and chickenpox … I can assure you, as a parent, watching your children suffer, is far worse than suffering it yourself!

    We say silly phrases like “We will remember them” … but we fkn DON’T!

    The collective memory of this – and every other country in the Western world particularly – is akin to a mass dementia* epidemic … but then the bulk of generations following since the 1960’s have ad it so good … they not only don’t know, they don’t care …

    Nature knows … and Nature whacks us constantly … and so we just keep fighting each other …

    The Spanish Flu killed more people in 1919 than WWI but we were still stupid enough to have WWII … instead of helping Germany recover … France made the German pople suffer for the stupidity of their “leaders” …

    And still 62 people own 50% of t world’s wealth!

    FFS! When does the stupidity END!

    * Apologies to families who experience dementia (my Mum did – she once said to me – “I know I can’t remember things, love, but I haven’t lost y sense of humour …” And she certainly hadn’t … )

  232. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 24, 2016 8:02 pm

    Yep. Only a fool would question the ALPs pledge to build the NBN for about $4bn.

    It seems we have an clear example of one that did just that

  233. TB Queensland permalink
    January 24, 2016 8:31 pm

    It seems we have an clear example of one that did just that

    You obviously forget (conveniently) that I also said that $4.7 billion was pie in the sky shite …

    What you also conveniently AVOID .. is that the LIBERALS deliberately FUCKED UP the NBN for political purposes … and a few years BIG BUSINESS will wake up and shift their support …

    Meanwhile this country now rates 44th in the world for broadband speed!

    THANK YOU MR TURNCOAT and puppeteer THE MAD ABBOTT! Welcome … innov va t I wel lc ome in nov vati t io n …………………………

    For someone who claims qualifications in economics … suggest you go back to school and stop listening to the same garbled bandwidth as Kneel and the rest of the Liberal blue rinse set … who don’t understand the global commercial value of a fibre optic broadband system for the NATION!

    And fuck the catlyk church and keeping everyone in the 15th Century !

  234. TB Queensland permalink
    January 24, 2016 9:01 pm

    So ToM are you saying that we should abandon the NBN … or that the Liberal Party government under The Mad Abbott got it right under Milkum Turncoat … OR

    Are you too just playing politics …

    If the Labor plan was no good do you accept the mish mash that the Prime Meddler has lumbered us with or should we just stick with copper and Wi-Fi and 4G?

    You being our economics and tech expert?

    What should have happened?

    And what should happen to lift us out of the 44th spot?

  235. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 24, 2016 10:00 pm

  236. Tony permalink
    January 24, 2016 10:08 pm

    Still lifes are winning all the art shows at the moment.

  237. January 24, 2016 10:12 pm

    Victor Harbour.

  238. January 24, 2016 10:15 pm

    Box Hill 2015, Lee Machelak.

  239. January 24, 2016 10:30 pm

    David Leffel, one of my favourites.

  240. January 24, 2016 10:34 pm

    Edouard Manet, Trois Pommes (Three Apples).

  241. January 24, 2016 10:37 pm

    Van Gogh, Still Life with Mackerels

  242. January 24, 2016 10:39 pm

    Claude Monet, Still Life with Pears and Grapes.

  243. January 24, 2016 10:42 pm

    Man does not live by politics alone.

    Pity him if he does. 😯

  244. January 24, 2016 11:07 pm

    Qiang Huang, Vine Tomatoes.

  245. January 25, 2016 7:35 am

    TB,,,,,,For someone who claims qualifications in economics,,,,,,

    #the dot-point-dill is just as much a mindless zombie as the other fool, cheering the wreckage of their own kids`n grandkids future

    #neither of them have a fcuking clue about economics, self-evident by their own statements

  246. January 25, 2016 8:14 am

    as Aust-day nears, my frightened abc is peddling `repug` as usual, the talking-head they just had on said team-repug only had 4000 signatures, OUT OF 16-MILLION ELIGIBLE VOTERS #fringe.issue

  247. January 25, 2016 9:40 am

    l liked this bit too armchair,

    guardian,,,,,,,,What, for example, can democracy possibly mean in a society resting on such disparities between the blessed and the damned?

    `All men are created equal,` explained the Declaration of Independence.

    At the time, Thomas Jefferson`s slaves might have found that assurance rather hard to swallow,,,,,,,,

    #democracy is also a bit of a `luxury`, people need the `time` to be able to participate properly, and that means `stress-free` time, (not worrying if they can pay for food, rent, medical tomorrow) so they can `study` the issues, junk-jobs combined with waffling-politicians and teabag-media also contribute to `reducing` citizens ability to participate properly

  248. January 25, 2016 11:03 am

    Excellent find armchair,

    pilger,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Australia is the envy of European governments now fencing in their once-open borders while beckoning fascism, as in Hungary. Refugees who dare set sail for Australia in overcrowded boats have long been treated as criminals, along with the “smugglers” whose hyped notoriety is used by the Australian media to distract from the immorality and criminality of their own government. The refugees are confined behind barbed wire on average for well over a year, some indefinitely, in barbaric conditions that have led to self-harm, murder, suicide and mental illness. Children have not been spared. An Australian Gulag run by sinister private security firms includes concentration camps on the remote Pacific islands of Manus and Nauru. People often have no idea when they might be freed, if at all.

    The Australian military – whose derring-do is the subject of uncritical tomes that fill the shelves of airport bookstalls – has played an important part in `turning back the boats` of refugees fleeing wars, such as in Iraq, launched and prolonged by the Americans and their Australian mercenaries. No irony, let alone responsibility, is acknowledged in this cowardly role.

    On this Australia Day, the “pride of the services” will be on display. This pride extends to the Australian Immigration Department, which commits people to its Gulag for `offshore processing`, often arbitrarily, leaving them to grieve and despair and rot. Last week it was announced that Immigration officials had spent $400,000 on medals which they will award their heroic selves. Put out more flags.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

  249. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 25, 2016 12:12 pm

    The main problem with the NBN is that it is an entrenched monopoly. The massive payment to Telstra was an abomination. Both of those are Labor’s doing. Turnbull should have just written of the project as a bad joke and let the market do most of the work.

    The NBN is a fabulous example of political incompetence, starting as a $5bn promise, going through a bungled tender process and finally inaugurated by Underpants Conroy and Kevni on the back of a napkin in a plane to nowhere.

    Turdball’s half-arsed attempt to rescue it failed because he kept it as a government monopoly. And for those politicised wanking leftists who want an enquiry, I presume you will start with the appointment of Labor mates to highly paid unadvertised positions – ain’t life grand in Unionland.

  250. TB Queensland permalink
    January 25, 2016 12:23 pm

    Last week it was announced that Immigration officials had spent $400,000 on medals which they will award their heroic selves. Put out more flags.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    The Mad Abbott Legacy Week?

    Speaking of Legacy … that 1/2 a million dollars could have been better spent … especially by a government that robs from the poor … and gives to the rich …

    I’m a Republican always have been … but seriously, what difference does it make who sits as Head of State … the pillaging and commercial rapine will continue unabated …

    The French, the Russians, the United States of America, the Germans … and, for a wobbly moment in time, the Poms, all revolted because of the oppression caused by greed and corruption at the top end of town …

    Australians … we just say … oh, well it ain’t broke so why fix it?

    Well it IS broke … seriously broke!

  251. January 25, 2016 12:25 pm

    Pie in the sky armchair,

    satpaper,,,,,,,,extensive recruiting has increased the size of ASIO to 1700 staff,,,,,,,

    ,,,,,which may cause some refreshment of thinking within ASIO,,,,,#it.won`t

    #the rest is wishful thinking by the author

    #with all the `new` privacy invasion tools available, and laws that go against the citizen, asio/asis/spooks will be hoovering-up the interwebs searching for death-cult `leftists` hiding under every `modem`:-) #fcuking.wankers

  252. January 25, 2016 12:47 pm

    TB,,,the pillaging and commercial rapine will continue,,,,#agree

    TB,,,,but seriously, what difference does it make who sits as Head of State,,,,,

    #if that`s the case, why bother being repug

    ,

    TB,,,,,I`m a Republican always have been,,,,,

    #considering the nbn, deliberately sabotaged, and by who. Maybe you should consider the trust you were putting in your copper-class-repug-leader back in 1999, and maybe team-NO may have saved your kids/grandkids from having their `rights` stripped off them at a much greater rate. Look at the critter you were following, do you really think he would not have copper-classed you on the republic.

  253. January 25, 2016 1:03 pm

    zombie,,,,,,Clap-trap? I copied and pasted the words of Kevin Rudd,,,,,

    #chuckle #so now you`re claiming kevin07`s not clap-trap

  254. January 25, 2016 1:26 pm

    The,,,,main problem with the NBN is,,,,,,teabags didn`t have any fore-sight at the dawn of the digital-age, so they sold telstra, which locked-in huge additional costs to any future Govt that did possess any kind of fore-sight on digital technology.

    Looking foolish over digital on the international stage, teabags decided to try and make technology `political`, talkbull intentionally mangled the technology and increased costs, and all the while falsely provoked easily agitated imbeciles to scream about the nbn, and not open-cheque-book wars and dud military aircraft spends.

  255. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 25, 2016 1:46 pm

    #considering the nbn, deliberately sabotaged, and by who.

    This was the sabotage.

    http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/210894/government_kills_opel_broadband_network/

    The federal government has terminated the funding for the OPEL broadband network.

    OPEL, a joint venture between Optus and Elders, was to have been allocated $958 million for the construction of a rural and regional broadband network under a deal by the Howard government.

    After Rudd won the 2007 they broke signed contracts to deliver broadband to rural areas

  256. TB Queensland permalink
    January 25, 2016 3:24 pm

    … do you really think he would not have copper-classed you on the republic.

    erm, he did, tbagz, ever wonder why I refer to the Prime Meddler (oh, how that fits!) as:

    Milkum TURNCOAT?

    And if he did it once – he’ll do it again … and again … and again … Robber Baron at work and at play …

    (The Milkum is because that’s exactly what his current job is to milk the electorate … The Mad Abbott and Jhockey tried to bully us – Milkum got the job to fool us … and he’s got 81% of the population fooled … demonstrating the gullibility of most of the Australian population!

    (and that’s fkn frightening!)

  257. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 25, 2016 3:44 pm

    Milkum got the job to fool us

    Rudd/Gillard were the biggest deceivers who deceived people who enjoy being deceived. The economic numbers in 2007 were the best for a generation.

    Rudd promised broadband to only cost $4.7B and be finished by 2013. It was thrown in the bin because they could not find anybody to build it.

    They then went and locked up more people than anybody in Australian history. Most probably will only be beaten by the next Labor govt.

  258. DJ Vu permalink
    January 25, 2016 5:27 pm

    Pity him if he does.

  259. January 25, 2016 7:36 pm

    (Hello Meta.)

  260. TB Queensland permalink
    January 25, 2016 8:47 pm

    Check this out … the Australian of the Year is Gen. Morrison …

    But whose smiley face head up the story … ? You guessed it The Crocodile, Milkum Turncoat …

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/australian-of-the-year-to-be-crowned/news-story/5e36ce8db48489b0a018b4a030b32f46

    And people here don’t believe the Murdoch is fiddling with Australian politics … Robber Barons at work …

  261. Tony permalink
    January 25, 2016 8:58 pm

    Anthem for tomorrow.

  262. January 25, 2016 9:17 pm

    A bit more Ozzie music. OI!

  263. January 25, 2016 9:37 pm

    I’m pretty sure this was recorded on Australia Day.

  264. January 25, 2016 9:58 pm

    “Still lifes are one of the five main genres found in Western art. The origins of still lifes can be traced back to Ancient Greco-Roman art (found on Greek vases, Roman wall paintings, and floor mosaics) and Medieval art … A still life is an artwork that depicts inanimate and everyday objects, such as flowers, food, dead animals, plants, books, jewelry, vases, drinking glasses, skulls, etc. The objects that comprise of the still life are generally assumed to not move nor change, and are arranged by the artist. This affords the artist much more freedom than the other genres, as they are able to arrange the compositions as they see fit … Still lifes are often meant to be pleasant and to cater to the senses. Each object depicted in turn relates to one of the senses: smell the flowers, taste the fruit, listen to the musical instruments … As the Academies in Europe began to lose power in the 19th century and Impressionism rose to the forefront, technique and color harmony became more important than subject matter. Suddenly, still lifes became a genre that artists began practising with more fervor, and was triumphed by such esteemed artists as Claude Monet and Edouard Manet.”

    http://www.saatchiart.com/paintings/still-life

  265. January 25, 2016 10:59 pm

    Nice to see you’re making yourself at home, I suppose….

  266. TB Queensland permalink
    January 25, 2016 11:22 pm

    dejavue?

  267. Tony permalink
    January 26, 2016 3:26 pm

    “Traveling in a fried-out combie
    On a hippie trail, head full of zombie
    I met a strange lady, she made me nervous
    She took me in and gave me breakfast
    And she said:

    “Do you come from a land Down Under?
    Where women glow and men plunder?
    Can’t you hear, can’t you hear the thunder?
    You better run, you better take cover…”

  268. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 26, 2016 6:56 pm

    “… and he’s got 81% of the population fooled … demonstrating the gullibility of most of the Australian population!”

    Yeah!! But according to TB, the population wasn’t gullible in 2007 when they elected Rudd, or maybe they were. I’m not sure.

    Apparently sometimes the population is gullible (when they don’t agree with TB) and sometimes they show a remarkable lack of gullibility (when they agree with TB)

  269. TB Queensland permalink
    January 26, 2016 8:06 pm

    On the attack again ToM … my, my …

    Although I’m not sure.

    And WTF does this mean …

    Apparently sometimes the population is gullible (when they don’t agree with TB) and sometimes they show a remarkable lack of gullibility (when they agree with TB)

    From all of the above I get that your not sure … and WTF did Rudd come from — next you’ll be saying I’m responsible for all the thousands of refugees put behind chain wire fences …

    In fact in 2007 the voting population were sick and tired of Howard … in 2013 the voting population were sick and tired of the ALP power plays …

    In 2014 the voting population were sick and tired of the crap PM The Mad Abbott was always going to be …

    In 2016 we still have a crap PM but people have been gulled into thinking he’s just like them … and he wants to help them … they are gullible because Milkum Turnbull doesn’t GAFF about you, me or any other ordinary Australian …

    Nothing has changed since the 2014 Budget …

    No constructive discussion about

    ► Negative Gearing welfare

    ► Trust Fund welfare

    ► Super Tax Breaks for the rich welfare

    ► Multi-national Tax dodge welfare

    ► Present pollie’s expenses welfare

    ► Post pollie’s expenses welfare

    ► Bean bag wastefulness

    ► International Travel wastefulness

    and no action at all on:

    ► Marriage equality (I’ll add as we go).

    And its the little things that the Liberals still chew away at – the poor, the sick, the weak, the uneducated, the young, the old …

    As a for instance the daily medication that thousands of Australians take daily (of ALL ages) (that Wally belittled by calculating a per tablet price) has now increased in price from $3 for two packs on PBS prescription to $12 for two packs …

    And just FYI … I’ve reached the conclusion that the democratic process in this country and indeed across the Western capitalist countries has now been thoroughly infested by rich, krystchan, arsehole Robber Barons … who simply don’t GAF!

    Apparently sometimes the population is gullible (when they don’t agree with TB)

    Just a reminder too … that this is a blog … you don’t have to agree with my opinions … nor do I have to agree with the majority … ’cause usually they are wrong!

    Happy Australia Day ….

  270. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 26, 2016 8:54 pm

    …Nothing has changed since the 2014 Budget …
    No constructive discussion about
    ► Negative Gearing welfare
    ► Trust Fund welfare
    ► Super Tax Breaks for the rich welfare
    ► Multi-national Tax dodge welfare
    ► Present pollie’s expenses welfare
    ► Post pollie’s expenses welfare
    ► Bean bag wastefulness
    ► International Travel wastefulness
    and no action at all on:
    ► Marriage equality (I’ll add as we go)…

    The Murdochracy at work. It is cheerleeding from the front so no liberal party ‘criticisms’ are allowed. Since the ABC has completely rolled over for Murdoch, there is now silence on all those pesky issues, why it would be almost unaustralian to think differently these days.

  271. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 26, 2016 9:18 pm

    Richard Di Natale wrote in the smh today. There was one sentence in his article that frightened me in a way that I’m sure he didn’t mean.

    Universal values define our national character
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/universal-values-define-our-national-character-20160125-gmdhbp.html

    ….To look at what it means to be Australian, we must look at who we are as a country and what we want to be…

    Judging by our national discourse, I find that to be a truly frightening thought 😯

  272. January 26, 2016 11:15 pm

    teabag,,,,,,,the population is gullible (when they don’t agree with TB),,,,,,,

    #Nice attempt boo, well done, the trouble is comparing the gough-like, `its-time`, kevin07 to any following election is wrong tho, as they don`t have the true popularity and change factors that kevin07 had much more `organically` among voters

    #talkbull is receiving `manufactured-swoon` from my frightened abc, and `relief-swoon` for not being mr-rabbit (or-blib) at the moment

  273. January 26, 2016 11:29 pm

    TB,,,,,,Marriage equality (I’ll add as we go).,,,,,,

    #Voluntary Euthanasia

    #Copper-class nbn wreckage

    #Marble Coffee-table wreckage

    #Off-shore Atlassian innovation loss

  274. January 26, 2016 11:47 pm

    mike.1,,,,,,Its about time republicans grew up. They are the ones who are cringing, unable to face what we are,,,,,,,

    di-natale,,,,,,We expect newly arrived migrants to share our values but we also learn from theirs.,,,,,,

    mike.2,,,,,,Exactly – and most migrants do NOT want a republic. Many of them have experienced how bad other systems of government can be. Now that they have arrived in a peaceful and politically mature country, they don’t want to change it.,,,,,

    #Yep, l`ve heard my local wogs basically saying the `mike.2` part myself over the years

    #l also reckon the `team-repug` aspect of the greenz has kept more voters away from them, than they gain

  275. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 27, 2016 12:21 am

    The World’s Most Popular Website Just Ripped The Rug Out From Under Australia Day
    https://newmatilda.com/2016/01/26/the-worlds-most-popular-website-just-ripped-the-rug-out-from-under-australia-day/

    …In a stunning departure from convention, today’s ‘Google Doodle’ – the picture that adorns the Google logo, and changes based on the significance of the day – has delivered what surely must be the most overtly political statement in world Google history…

  276. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 27, 2016 12:56 am

  277. January 27, 2016 1:02 am

    it`a all good`n well that google is showing respect for aboriginals and displaying apartheid-art,

    too bad google won`t show the same respect for taxpayers, instead of bludging off`em

  278. Tom R permalink
    January 27, 2016 7:53 am

    Turnbull should have just written of the project as a bad joke and let the market do most of the work.

    Yea, because waiting for over a decade for it to happen worked a treat, didn’t it?

    was to have been allocated $958 million for the construction of a rural and regional broadband network under a deal by the Howard government.

    And, because Optus is so good on delivering (just like they had not been for the decade preceding this election eve tranfer of tax payer dollars). Come back when you have any proof they could have delivered, because all information on the table shows otherwise

    The economic numbers in 2007 were the best for a generation.

    By 2007 we were in structural deficit. We are now paying for that profligacy.

    …Nothing has changed since the 2014 Budget …

    But it has TB. It just changed for the worst

    Alan Austin analyses the Turnbull Government’s economic performance since Scott Morrison took over the reins as Treasurer and concludes that rather than improving, things really are “spiralling out of control”.

    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/does-scott-morrison-really-have-a-clue,8607

    Still lifes are often meant to be pleasant and to cater to the senses.

    But not always 😉

  279. Tom R permalink
    January 27, 2016 8:01 am

    No constructive discussion about

    Of course not, all we are allowed to discuss is the GST, which of course, is all that is on the table, but, isn’t happening (except when it is) 😉 😉

  280. Tom R permalink
    January 27, 2016 8:11 am

    Thanks for the link AO, it is a wonderful piece of art in ti’s own right imo

  281. Tom R permalink
    January 27, 2016 8:30 am

    The prominent conservative senator Eric Abetz says every Coalition MP will be free to decide how to cast their parliamentary vote on same-sex marriage, contradicting the prime minister and, according to the marriage equality lobby, rendering the promised $160m national plebiscite pointless.

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jan/27/eric-abetz-coalition-mps-will-not-be-bound-by-plebiscite-on-marriage-equality

    So, more snake oil from a habitual snake oil salesman. Will turnbull “make a stand”

    He hasn’t so far, on anything from the republican debate to GST to industrial relations. It is all as it was, nothing has changed, except the rhetoric. Do you recall when Gillard “knifed” rudd, and the almost immediate calls for her to show her worth? And when she did, they called for more. Not with malcayman from our press gallery, who are so overwhelmed that he replaced that last tosser they helped get elected, are willing to let him drift along with meaningless words and asking his own questions.

    Tony Abbott’s decision to stay may finally force Turnbull to take a stand

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/25/tony-abbotts-decision-to-stay-may-finally-force-turnbull-to-take-a-stand

    Sorry mstaylor, but he is a leader, and threats from his own side forcing him to “make a stand” isn’t leadership, it’s desperation.

    And, while I’m at it, why has no major media outlet mention the Nick Ross. Like ashbygate, this is a massive story being deliberately shunnned by our media. They are simply reinforcing Ross’s story.

    The ABC is primarily at fault here for forgetting that its charter calls for balanced treatment of a subject. That can be achieved when one is dealing with myriad topics. But when it comes to technology, there is often black and white, and not so many shades of grey.

    But when it comes to technology, things could not be more different. For example, a laptop battery that can last seven hours is definitely better than one which lasts three hours. There is no argument, no shade of grey. It is black and white.

    Ross’s articles were based on technological details. Nobody in this country has delved into the NBN in such a forensic manner as he has; in the course of doing so, he came to the opinion that a FttP network would, in the long run, be the better option for the country.

    Now this just happened to be the option chosen by the Labor party.

    Ross’s boss, Bruce Belsham, looked at the issue from a purely political angle and asked him to write something that cast the Coalition’s NBN policy in a good light, judging from a transcript of a conversation between Ross and Belsham.

    In other words, Belsham was asking Ross to write something that concluded that FttN was the more suitable option for the country!

    http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/71187-nbn-abc-is-in-a-mess-of-its-own-making

  282. January 27, 2016 10:41 am

    l suppose the next thing my frightened abc will be telling us is, `solar-to-user` burns more coal per jiggy-watt hour than electricity coming from the `power-node` #belsham.tech

  283. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 28, 2016 8:42 am

    Malcolm on a 1994 portrait of himself:

    “That artist of yours is no good,” Mr Turnbull told Mr Hughes.

    “He’s made me look like a big, fat, greedy cunt.”

    Mr Hughes supposedly replied: “He is a realist painter you know.”

  284. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 8:57 am

    He is a realist painter you know.

    lol

    I see malcaymans history of bullying people into hiding himself hasn’t changed over 20 years

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