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The Returnification of Tony Abbott!

January 27, 2016

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Former Prime Minister Tony Abbott has reportedly turned down a stellar line-up of top senior executive roles with some of Australia’s largest multi-national corporations in order to continue his selfless vocation as a “servant of the people.”

Confirming his intention to contest the seat of Warringah at the next election, Mr Abbott said that he had received “many letters of support” from his constituents which swayed his decision to remain in politics.

The news has been well-received amongst Mr Abbott’s political allies, including the affable Tasmanian Senator Eric Abetz who insists that Mr Abbott should be allowed to choose his own ministry and be returned to a prominent position on the front bench.

A popular proponent of ‘traditional values’ (whatever they are), Mr Abbott is taking his message of hope and equality for all to the pro-Christian, US based “Alliance Defending Freedom” religious group later this week.

The ADF believes that so-called “religious liberty” is “under threat” and it must fight legal battles “for the soul of our nation”.

Launched in 1994, the ADF has been training like-minded lawyers to legally challenge laws that aim to provide for marriage equality and protection for those seeking abortions.

It has also fought on behalf of Christian business owners who fell foul of the law for discriminating against people on the basis of sexual orientation.

The alliance says it shares a belief in “a fundamental truth that people have the God-given constitutionally guaranteed right to freely live out their faith, and that freedom, that truth, must be defended”.

“Now more than ever those very freedoms and values we cherish are under fierce and relentless legal attack being drawn into the shadows by those who are determined to silence people of faith and redefine the US constitution.”

The alliance’s President and Chief Executive, Alan Sears co-wrote a book in 2003 titled “The Homosexual Agenda: Exposing the Principal Threat to Religious Freedom Today.”

The book sought to prove that the US was “not only becoming more tolerant of homosexuality, through the indoctrination of children, positive exposure on TV, and the support and approval of corporate America, it is becoming less tolerant of those who disagree”.

The organisation’s lawyers frequently clash with the American Civil Liberties Union, which is active in bringing cases. The ACLU says it is committed to “full equality for lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgender people; establishing new privacy protections for our digital age of widespread government surveillance; ending mass incarceration; or preserving the right to vote or the right to have an abortion”.

The alliance has set up a legal academy to train attorneys in constitutional law and a biblical world view, as part of efforts to build “an enduring legal force of allies” who can fight these battles in the courts.

A so-called “fellowship program” also aims “to equip a new generation of lawyers who will rise to positions of influence as legal scholars, litigators, media commentators and judges”.

In the US, the ADF is widely lampooned as a desperate group of right-wing god-botherers who want to take the country back to somewhere near the third century. Literally.

Mr Abbott should feel right at home.

Labor leader Bill Shorten however, said that he was concerned about Abbott’s planned attendance at the event.

“Some of those people have been associated with the worst excesses of the far religious right in America – everything from their trenchant and radical opposition to the right to choose, right through to people talking about criminalising homosexuality,” Shorten said.

“What Mr Abbott does is up to him but he’s the former Liberal prime minister of Australia. What worries me is that his views are commonly held within the right wing of the Liberal party.”

Right on cue, Eric Abetz has declared that Coalition MP’s will not be bound to vote in accordance with the forthcoming plebiscite on marriage equality rendering the $160 million poll a waste of public funds and a meaningless exercise.

Abbott’s decision to remain in politics and his decision to lend his support to the ADF has reinvigorated conservative supporters within the ranks of the Coalition who resent current leader Malcolm Turnbull.

The move should play well into the hands of Labor MPs and Opposition Leader Bill Shorten who has been struggling to gain ground against the popularity of Malcolm Turnbull.

 

 

 

 

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  1. January 27, 2016 9:42 am

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  2. Tom R permalink
    January 27, 2016 9:46 am

    The news has been well-received amongst Mr Abbott’s political allies

    I think his political opponents are just as chuffed.

    When people start to see (hopefully) that not only is yabot still there, but that malcayman continues to pursue his policies, malcayman will no longer be “not tony”. Rather (again, hopefully) that tag will fall back onto Bill Shhhhhhorten.

    AND

    IF

    the media ever decide to acknowledge the role malcayman had in the stifling of their information on the NBN (god forbid they ever learn of the wanton destruction malcayman himself has wrought on our infrastructure) we might actually see a turn in the polls.

    As was mentioned briefly elsewhere, malcaymans numbers a large, but fragile. Those that leave, won’t be coming back. yabot abused their trust too much, and malcayman has promised them too much that he cannot deliver.

  3. Tom R permalink
    January 27, 2016 9:47 am

    who endorsed the idea of the death penalty for gays

    Maybe he’s gone over there to shirtfront them?

  4. Tom R permalink
    January 27, 2016 9:48 am

  5. January 27, 2016 10:57 am

    lt is good to see the returnification of the rabbit to give hope to the imbeciles, and some head-aches for talkbull (after all blib won`t), and embarrass the nation on the international stage. lt is good to see the `entertainment` will be maintained.

  6. January 27, 2016 11:28 am

    The,,,,,,move should play well into the hands of Labor MPs and Opposition Leader Bill Shorten who has been struggling to gain ground,,,,,,

    #l don`t think it will reb. One of my neighbors was an alp `helper`, door-knocking and leaflets etc pre-kevin07, he is still quite bitter they just pissed their kevin07 victory against the wall

    #just after xmas l was speaking to him, he reckons there is another five `helpers` that have dumped helping the team any more, and are now `greenz-fans`, he reckons that `the only thing blib will do for the team is get them to single digits in the polls, blib is a constant reminder to the public of the `joolya-years` and pissing victory against the wall`

    (l don`t know if `helpers` are `members` or just supporters)

    #of course l won`t claim this has happened `everywhere`, but l wouldn`t bet it hasn`t happened elsewhere either

  7. January 27, 2016 11:41 am

    t,,,,,,,I think his political opponents are just as chuffed,,,,,,

    #yes, but not in the way you imply team-cheerer, xeno`s woman looks like belting the rabbit

  8. TB Queensland permalink
    January 27, 2016 12:05 pm

    Affable? Did you say fkn … Affable? FFS!

    Has TGT gone down the path of the ABC and been threatened by the government or sumfink?

    Affable?!!

  9. Tom R permalink
    January 27, 2016 12:30 pm

    One of my neighbors was an alp `helper`

    Does he help you count coloured cartons too?

  10. January 27, 2016 12:59 pm

    “”Affable? Did you say fkn … Affable? FFS!””

    🙂 🙂 🙂

  11. Tom R permalink
    January 27, 2016 1:11 pm

    Perhaps he meant Laffable ❓

  12. January 27, 2016 2:05 pm

    nah, he didn`t mention blib

  13. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 27, 2016 2:12 pm

    Love the photo you picked reb, all he needs is a halo 🙂

    …Right on cue, Eric Abetz has declared that Coalition MP’s will not be bound to vote in accordance with the forthcoming plebiscite on marriage equality rendering the $160 million poll a waste of public funds and a meaningless exercise…

    Well, since the MP’s don’t have to abide by the plebiscite of the people, what’s the point in having them as our supposed representatives? Time to get serious and start demanding true representation – BoR, CIR etc

  14. January 27, 2016 2:39 pm

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  15. January 27, 2016 2:53 pm

    “”Kevin Andrews will become the second Liberal backbencher in a week to address a right-wing US lobby group when he speaks at the largest conservative think tank in Washington on Tuesday.

    Mr Andrews, who was dumped as defence minister by Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull in September as part of a purge of Tony Abbott-backers, will miss the first week of Parliament to deliver a speech on “Australia’s Global Security and Defense Challenges” to the influential Heritage Foundation.

    Mr Andrews’ decision to fly to the US rather than attend the first sitting of Parliament in 2016 is likely to be interpreted as another conservative Liberal flying the flag for the hard right.””

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/kevin-andrews-skips-parliament-to-address-conservative-lobby-group-in-washington-on-defence-20160127-gmeyg6.html#ixzz3yPgxhDlt

    And all paid for by the taxpayer no doubt…

  16. January 27, 2016 2:55 pm

    noel needs his head read,

    (l might call him uncle tom too if l was racist, but l won`t)

  17. TB Queensland permalink
    January 27, 2016 3:10 pm

    I’m still struggling with fkn affable!

    Ansd along comes Pearson poncing about at the Press Club …

    Mr Andrews’ decision to fly to the US rather than attend the first sitting of Parliament in 2016

    Doesn’t this actually prove politicians (particularly the Krusaders) are not interested in what most Aussies or need but their own ideological agenda? Fucking Missionaries …

    Affable … Jesus fkn wept!

  18. Tom R permalink
    January 27, 2016 4:09 pm

    are not interested in what most Aussies or need but their own ideological agenda?

    I’d have thought the Affable One (and others this morning saying they would ignore the electorate on a SSM plebiscite pretty much confirmed that TB 😉

  19. January 27, 2016 4:36 pm

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  20. Tom R permalink
    January 27, 2016 4:51 pm

    Just what does Malcolm Turnbull stand for these days?

    • nobbling the abc
    • Innovatively destroying innovative infrastructure
    • opposing meaningful action on Climate Change
    • opposing ssm
    • supporting tax havens
    • replacing Australian workers with cheaper imports
    • opposing a republic (we could see that from his previous work)
    • removing penalty rates
    • imposing a higher GST
    • supporting multinational tax avoidance
    • destroying public education
    • destroying public health

    he’s building quite a list

    btw, he’s not “Comprising his principles to keep his job”, he’s following the path he always has, as a neo-con. Emphasis on con. History proves this.

  21. TB Queensland permalink
    January 27, 2016 5:36 pm

    See, ToM, its not just “my opinion” about Your Glamour Boi … its what he’s fkn UP to (for himself) …

  22. TB Queensland permalink
    January 27, 2016 5:51 pm

    http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/coolangatta-residents-are-fuming-that-a-sign-with-a-glaring-spelling-error-is-welcoming-people-to-queensland/news-story/b85b207364404885a3e0a37594aa6d8b

    This really takes the cake … don’t tell me that spelling and grammar skills aren’t disappearing fast!

    How many people would have seen this before it was put up …

    Although I bet the Mexicans can’t see anything wrong … I suppose that’sho the sign is for anyway?

    Victoria – The Place to Be on number plates and they’re driving around Queensland … miles away from Mexico!

  23. Tom R permalink
    January 27, 2016 6:18 pm

    Labor’s refrain that Turnbull was merely Abbott in a better suit, had glanced off in the heady atmosphere of the time, appearing faintly desperate. “All their policies are the same,” Bill Shorten had protested lamely.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/turnbulls-moderate-vision-begins-to-fray-20160127-gmezdn.html#ixzz3yQVkG8Sh
    Follow us: @theage on Twitter | theageAustralia on Facebook

    yea mark, except, the “atmosphere”, as you so daintily put it, IS YOU! You stupid bloody muppet!

    But there was something to this.

    Oh, is that another way of saying, Bill Shorten was absolutely right, and “teh Atmosphere” got it all wrong …………again!

    It was as if his reputation as a forward leaner on global warming, marriage equality, the republic, and the internet, cut more ice with voters than the pesky details and squalid compromises necessary to secure the leadership.

    Wow. I wonder if “teh Atmosphere” had anything to do with that ice cutting? Perhaps your next column, you’ll mention a quaint little name like Nick Ross, and a tiny little endeavour called the NBN. See how “teh Atmosphere” goes with that. You stupid little twat!

  24. Tom R permalink
    January 27, 2016 6:22 pm

    don’t tell me that spelling and grammar skills aren’t disappearing fast!

    Well, to be honest TB, to some of us southerners, it’s kinda seems a bit like getting on a boat up that way lately 😉

  25. Tom R permalink
    January 27, 2016 6:24 pm

    Either that, or it’s the recognition that Queensland really is a state renting off the rest of Australia 🙂

  26. January 27, 2016 6:31 pm

    So today, one of my work colleagues told me that he’s “a christian.”

    Talk about rubbing your nose in it.

    Now I’m as open-minded as the next person, but it’s the children, and in particular those vulnerable youngsters, that I’m worried about. Who’s going to protect them?

    I know that so-called “science” isn’t for everyone, but what about those impressionable young people that haven’t made up their minds yet? Don’t they deserve the right to an education free of some fabricated “sky fairy” nonsense?

    Pretty soon, these religious types will be indoctrinating our vulnerable children in schools to adhere to their lifestyle choices, and then where will we be?

    I have it on good advice, that some of these so-called “christians” are going around actively lobbying our politicians, and I’ve been told some of them are self declared politicians themselves!

    As a practising homosexual (actually, I’ve got it down to a fine art) myself, I find this shameless promotion just DISGUSTING.

    Society was a much better place when these SICK individuals kept their sordid behaviour to themselves and just left the rest of us in peace.

    Signed

    Disgusted of Melbourne

  27. TB Queensland permalink
    January 27, 2016 6:57 pm

    Well, to be honest TB, to some of us southerners, it’s kinda seems a bit like getting on a boat up that way lately

    O, yeah I’ve heard about all your rain and floods!

    Either that, or it’s the recognition that Queensland really is a state renting off the rest of Australia

    Now I think you’re referring to a certain Mrs Palmers boy and her five sisters …

    And we all know who’ll be the “borders” in a few months when the crow eaters have to start … well … eating crows … instead of building stuff!

    My suggeion talk to Milkum Turncoat … he seems to avoid have all the answers …

    Did I tell you how happy I am that one of my meds had quadrupled in price … the one that helps me play here … ahah now I see the “plan” …

  28. TB Queensland permalink
    January 27, 2016 7:11 pm

    So, sreb, I hope you pushed the benefits of the atheist faith* when your colleague declared his pagan beliefs … 🙂

  29. January 27, 2016 7:13 pm

    “Did I tell you how happy I am that one of my meds had quadrupled in price … the one that helps me play here … ahah now I see the “plan” …

    Would that be this one….?

  30. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 27, 2016 8:05 pm

    I’ve been busy, what’a the ?zica virus about and how do you get it? I

  31. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 27, 2016 9:11 pm

    Paul Kelly in the oz:
    …In their face-to-face encounter two months ago, Turnbull tried to counsel Abbott, given the profound personal trauma involved in losing the prime ministership. While he made no formal offer, Turnbull let Abbott know that the post of high commissioner in London could be available at some point for him…

    …The alternative career Abbott considered in recent weeks was heading up a new well-financed think tank where he had the chance to build an institution, be involved in the world of ideas and retain complete freedom in giving speeches and shaping the nation’s political agenda.

    Abbott told colleagues his decision to stay in politics was “line ball”…

    What was that new ultra conservative, political party called, remember the teabags going off in a sulk after abbott got the boot?

    I wish his electorate was re-thinking abbott as chief bomb thrower after the next election.

    Never mind that Abbott was tossed out because the public hates him, we can still hand out a fancy job for him if he wants it. The nepotism and cronyism in politics is amazing.

    …Abbott is planning a series of articles to expound upon and defend his policy record as prime minister. They will begin in March with a detailed account of his economic policies…

    I guess neil will have a read, any guesses as to which fine newspaper will be running them?

  32. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 27, 2016 9:33 pm

    Sean Kelly says the nation has been so easily distracted, once again, from the real issue with abbott’s frolic overseas with the RWNJ’s.

    I do not think that word means what you think it means
    https://www.themonthly.com.au/today/sean-kelly/2016/27/2016/1453873624/i-do-not-think-word-means-what-you-think-it-means

    …I’m not just talking about anti-gay marriage, either – after all, we knew Abbott was against that. This is a group which has actively fought against the repeal of anti-sodomy laws, both in the United States and overseas. It is not just against gay marriage: it wants homosexuality itself to be illegal.

    That is offensive in America. In countries like Belize, where the Alliance Defending Freedom has worked to preserve criminalisation (the offence carries a ten-year gaol sentence) it is dangerous. As the Southern Poverty Law Center puts it: “What American groups like the ADF are doing amounts to pouring fuel on an exceedingly volatile fire. They are aiding and abetting anti-LGBT forces in countries where anti-gay violence is endemic.”

    …But defending Abbott’s right to speak – as several Liberal MPs have by now, including the prime minister, who we’ll get to in a second – is facile and naïve. The question isn’t is he allowed to speak to them (he’s not a five-year-old), it’s should he speak to them.

    And that’s when you remember that this isn’t just some Liberal backbencher. This is a recent prime minister of our country…

  33. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 28, 2016 12:26 am

    Bob Hawke’s old seat shows why Labor is vulnerable in Victoria
    http://www.afr.com/news/bob-hawkes-old-seat-shows-why-labor-is-vulnerable-in-victoria-20160127-gmetbz#ixzz3yRzmEawk

    …Open Labor is committed to prising open Labor’s stultified pre-selection processes to genuine competition in which local branch members have a reasonable say, a reduction in factional influence and deal making, and an end to the corrosive and widespread practice of branch stacking.

    As one of the principals in Open Labor says: “We’re committed to a process that will end the addiction to backroom deals.”

    Yet the Wills pre-selection gives every indication of being subject to the same sort of deal-making in the modern equivalent of smoke-filled back-rooms that has turned Labor into something of a closed shop over the years – and risked alienating it from the electorate more generally…

    …Wills may well be secure, but Labor cannot be sure which is why the pre-selection process is attracting more than usual attention, and why the stakes on a marketable candidate – as opposed to a factional stooge – are high…

  34. January 28, 2016 7:19 am

    AO,,,,,zica virus about and how do you get it?,,,,,

    #tropical mosquito spread virus/bacteria (like-malaria) from the americas, believed to have reached bananaland

    #results in pregnancy problems, small heads/brains in babies

  35. January 28, 2016 7:34 am

    Konsidering the zombies are `taxpayer-employed` to attend Parliament, but are pursuing their own dog-club fetish off-shore, then the krusading-knuts should not be submitting any `expenses` to treasury either, should they?

  36. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 8:15 am

    actually, I’ve got it down to a fine art

    modest too 😉

  37. January 28, 2016 8:32 am

    This,,,,,,is shameful. It’s time for Australia to take real action on climate change now. No more talk, need action.,,,,,,

    #yet when kevin07 did try to `take-action` both jooliar and blib persuaded kevin07 to `shelve` it, then `knifed` kevin07 for accepting their `advice`, this subject is no help to blib, and only a baton to beat blib about the head with

  38. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 9:18 am

    Do you mean the same Julia and Bill who actually implemented a Carbon Price, and who still have that as their policy

    Those ones?

    Stick to counting coloured cartons you dope

    ……………..

    woof woof

  39. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 9:22 am

    According to the reptiles at hte oz, it’s STILL all Labors fault

    Scott Morrison is under pressure to find savings of at least $5 billion a year in this year’s budget to pay for the National Disability Insur­ance Scheme, as a fund set up by the former Labor government to finance the scheme will start running down from next year and be depleted by 2019-20.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/treasury/5bn-budget-hit-as-ndis-fund-dwindles/news-story/06d2055212899849a233a978a5fd9b2c

    They had a big headline in their daily shit sheet blaming Labor also for the fact that the libs can promise an NDIS, but cannot fund it.

    So, there goes another big ticket item. The polls might be bad now, but once people realise that the NDIS and Gonski are goneski, we’ll see.

    google the headline if you dare

    $5bn budget hit as NDIS fund dwindles

  40. January 28, 2016 9:51 am

    Yes l do recall after the knifing, jooliar and blib did introduce a carbon-price-not-a-tax-not-a-levy–oh-okay-its-carbon-tax making the knifing look even worse to many, all the while jooliar was stuck arguing the toss by stubbornly clinging to the `price` bullshit` instead of `tax`, even on the long-shot of blib managing to win, blib too will waste airtime on `price/tax` `label`, they won`t have learned a thing #yaay.blib

  41. January 28, 2016 10:04 am

    THE DAILY BLIB

    ACHIEVING GENDER QUOTAS EDITION

    blib’s chief spin doctor, Kimberley Gardiner, is leaving the Opposition Leader’s office by mutual agreement following an internal review ahead of the next election.

    Gardiner is leaving the role of communications director after more than three years working for blib.

    Gardiner was a long serving staffer to joolya when she was deputy prime minister and worked for blib when he was a minister in the former Labor government as well as in opposition.

    She has clocked up almost a decade of service in total with the `team`.

    Her exit, after that of deputy chief of staff Sarah Adams last year, means there are now no women in senior roles in blib’s office.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bill-shortens-chief-spin-doctor-kimberley-gardiner-exits-as-labor-struggles-in-the-polls-20160121-gmam5f.html

  42. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 28, 2016 10:36 am

    😆 gold!

  43. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 10:37 am

    lol, the “daily” blib, from a weak ( 🙂 ) ago

    too busy counting coloured cartons to keep up you dope.

  44. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 10:39 am

    has his account been hacked AO, or is Jerry messing his i-phone?

  45. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 28, 2016 10:45 am

    Know anybody who might benefit from a free online self help type program for depression/anxiety? I would think that they should be slightly motivated to take part in the research. I can recall directing a niece to it [anxiety, depression & panic attacks] but she wasn’t motivated, too easy to just get help from family.

  46. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 10:53 am

    We need to invest in our hospitals – before it’s too late

    Another massive lib fail. And yet, even IF they get the GST through, they don’t want to put that money into hospitals. No, they want to use it to further line the pockets of their mates.

    As of next year public hospital funding will become the biggest financial challenge faced by state and territory governments, a report from the peak organisation representing doctors the Australian Medical Association, warns.

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jan/28/public-hospitals-biggest-financial-challenge-state-governments

  47. January 28, 2016 10:58 am

    considering team-cheerers are usually unhappy with the reporting the team receives, whether that be fake-balance from my frightened abc, or the total lies from the zombies at limited-news,

    the daily blib only exists to ensure blib receives the coverage blib truly deserves

  48. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 28, 2016 11:05 am

    Why is there so much taxpayer funded alcohol freely available to MP’s?

    Jamie Briggs says he made wrong choices with alcohol when travelling
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/jamie-briggs-says-he-made-wrong-choices-with-alcohol-when-travelling/news-story/6d68e1ed88ba1bc5fc4ad86c42846a74?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20TheAustralianNewsNDM%20(The%20Australian%20%7C%20News%20%7C)

    …Former Liberal frontbencher Jamie Briggs says he “found it really difficult” being away from home 165 nights last year as a minister and that he made the wrong choices with alcohol when travelling.

    …“I think I’ve got to consider some of my behaviours and some of the choices I’ve made, particularly when I’ve been travelling,” the South Australian federal MP said.

    “I was away 165 nights last year. I flew 150 odd times and I’ve found it really difficult.

    “I’ve found the pace and the intensity … not the work but the being away … I probably too often used alcohol as a way to deal with that so I think in that sense, that’s probably part of the reason for the decision (to resign)”.

  49. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 11:09 am

  50. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 28, 2016 11:16 am

    I have been saying for some time that these affiliations need to be exposed, stop presenting our pollies as having no ownership/baggage from third parties. Chris Uhlmann is another failed priest like abbott.

  51. January 28, 2016 11:19 am

    the total absence of self-awareness in rupert tweets always make them great comedy, sooner or later l`m sure we will see one complaining about people interfering with police kidnapping investigations, or communication electronics intrusion:-)

  52. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 11:20 am

    the daily blib only exists because apart from counting coloured cartons, you have nothing else?

    Chris Uhlmann is another failed priest like abbott.

    He’s another failed journalist too, which is probably why he went so well at theirabc

  53. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 11:22 am

    the total absence of self-awareness in rupert tweets always make them great comedy

    teambag IS rupe 😯

  54. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 11:28 am

  55. January 28, 2016 11:45 am

    tweet,,,,,,@davrosz puts Chris Uhlmann in his place by outing the real reason behind Uhlmann’s support of Abbott,,,,,,

    #twitter is a little slow today, it`s all old(correct) info on toolman

  56. January 28, 2016 12:11 pm

    there is no vaccine or medicine to treat Zika virus, and no way to prevent it other than by trying to avoid mosquito bites.

    Obama was briefed on the situation by top science experts in the US government, including the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Health and Human Services, and the National Institutes of Health, according to a White House statement.

    The CDC also expanded its travel warning for pregnant women and those considering becoming pregnant to avoid 24 areas in Latin America and the Caribbean that have seen cases of Zika virus.

    http://www.9news.com.au/health/2016/01/28/05/40/us-president-barack-obama-urges-swift-action-on-zika-virus

    Zika virus is spread to people primarily through the bite of an infected Aedes species mosquito, according to the CDC.

    Symptoms are usually mild and may include fever, rash, joint pain and conjunctivitis.

    However, the virus can pass from a pregnant women to her fetus, and global health authorities are concerned by an apparent link between Zika virus and nearly 4,000 cases of babies born with unusually small heads — a condition known as microcephaly — in Brazil.

  57. TB Queensland permalink
    January 28, 2016 12:19 pm

    Healthcare austerity is a one way road to an underfunded, dysfunctional hospital system

    Leading to a dysfunctional COUNTRY! Fkn morons …

  58. TB Queensland permalink
    January 28, 2016 12:22 pm

    “I was away 165 nights last year. I flew 150 odd times and I’ve found it really difficult.

    Why do politicians think they are the only people who have to travel away from family to earn a living?

    Politicians are unique in that they don’t actually DO anything!

  59. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 28, 2016 12:27 pm

    We need to have a national dialogue about ‘the model’, what is the point of a republic when it rests in the hands of the executive govt? and if politicians decide the model and the head of state, not the people? We already know that they don’t represent we, the people.

    The perils of centralisation

    The republic, the res publica or public thing, is generally understood to be a political system that encompasses the common good in two ways.

    First, it encourages its citizens to participate and exercise their virtue so as to enhance the life of their community.

    Second, it advocates a system of checks and balances to ensure that no one person or group becomes too powerful. There are mechanisms to ensure that power is constrained and not allowed to become despotic.

    Having a so-called Australian head of state will do little to achieve either of these goals. It may well lead to the opposite consequence: more power being concentrated in the hands of the executive government…

  60. TB Queensland permalink
    January 28, 2016 12:28 pm

    Tuhlman … where does the mainstream media get off dictating who a politician can speak to

    When the taxpayers are their EMPLOYERS and pay the BILLS!

    Fuckwit©

  61. TB Queensland permalink
    January 28, 2016 12:39 pm

    We need to have a national dialogue about ‘the model’, what is the point of a republic when it rests in the hands of the executive govt? and if politicians decide the model and the head of state, not the people? We already know that they don’t represent we, the people.

    We actually already have the model, KL … (as above) … we just break all ties from the UK being our head of state born to rule (no matter how dopey he/she is …

    As it stands the GG is selected but is “answerable” to the UK …

    Just sect a GG Australian citizen and he/she represents Australia not the QUEEN of Australia …

    Its not really complicated … unless you want it to be … and we DO NOT want a USA style President …

    Parliament has quite enough power … but to elect a political president would be fatal … just look at the USA right now and the government grinding to a halt …

    I’d much prefer a non party democracy in the house of reps … eg ALL Independents and split election times like the Senate … keep the mix moving … and limited terms … no more than say four terms … ie 12 years …

  62. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 28, 2016 12:43 pm

    …An Indonesian spy server has been tracked to a street in Sydney, prompting the concern that Australia could get the blame for spying being carried out by other countries…

  63. TB Queensland permalink
    January 28, 2016 12:43 pm

    RE Mr Affable Abetz and the plebiscite … how I wish he would get out!

    Why have a plebiscite if politicians don’t follow it … waste of money … and spending is the current budgetary issue we are led to believe!

  64. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 12:49 pm

  65. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 12:56 pm

    My favourite part of Labor’s #Gonski announcement is the taxation fairness that will fund it.

    Gonski and NDIS “should” be big movers come election time, and the libs have thrown booth out with their desire to feed their mates our tax dollars.

  66. January 28, 2016 12:56 pm

    An,,,,,,Australian head of state won`t save us from being a de facto monarchy,,,,,,

    #An Australian head of state won`t save us from being a de facto oligarchy either, nationally, we have already slid well along the scale to the despotic end and nuzzled-up to fascism on many subjects, treatment of boaties and off-shore gulags stand out well, then all the privacy invasion, none of the canberra critters can really be trusted not to fcuk us

    #the standard they `enact` is the standard they `want`

  67. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 1:02 pm

    All that is wrong with the pathetic and totally owned abc (lib lite)

  68. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 28, 2016 1:18 pm

  69. January 28, 2016 1:27 pm

    l wonder if my frightened abc think release `order` is team `priority`, meaning last on list has least priority #justsaying

  70. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 1:29 pm

    I think Greg Sheridan is forgetting about a certain prime minister named Julia Gillard

    I don’t think he forget, I think he saw it more as “putting that fucking woman in her place” rather than vitriol or personal abuse AO

    He seems like that kind of tosser

  71. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 28, 2016 1:51 pm

    The US model of presidency is better than the reward for time serving politicians model we have.

    I quite like the idea of an executive that can be made up of non politicians.

    The parliamentary gene pool in federal politics is so small, the idea of a couple of state premiers (or anyone else) nominating for presidency is appealing too.

  72. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 1:55 pm

    Heydon just can’t hide his hatred. (and bias)

    Why did the Royal Commission begin by quoting the author of “The White Man’s Burden”? The only explanation, it seems, is that the commission sees the union movement as Viking raiders. Australian union workers, in the commission’s eyes, are a foreign army threatening the security of the “nation.” And they don’t need to be reformed — they need to be crushed.

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/01/australia-royal-commission-report-union-dyson-heydon/

  73. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 2:00 pm

    I quite like the idea of an executive that can be made up of non politicians.

    Who gets to pick them?

  74. January 28, 2016 2:14 pm

    teabag,,,,,,(or anyone else) nominating for presidency is appealing too,,,,,,

    #Total unhinged meltdown if cmfu2 member tho:-)

  75. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 2:35 pm

    As they say, a picture is worth

  76. January 28, 2016 2:52 pm

    after reading the monthly .. considering the adf kristians are much like the westboro and kkk-kristians with much `hate` cloaked within .. considering rabbit is an ex-prime meddler .. considering talkbull claims on qandaland repeatedly his gay-marriage support

    talkbull is really quite a hypocrite and coward by not saying the simplest `l-don`t-like-it`

  77. TB Queensland permalink
    January 28, 2016 4:18 pm

    So where has the TGT far right faction disappeared to (I see ToM as just right … mm …mmm )

    Is there a Liberal HQ Briefing Session on somewhere?

  78. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 28, 2016 5:24 pm

    All those uniforms getting medals, it wouldn’t be out of place in nth.korea.
    Look what we’ve come to!

  79. TB Queensland permalink
    January 28, 2016 5:58 pm

    yer right, KL … why would an aerial ping pong footballer get a medal …

    Cosgrove is veteran who served overseas … don’t know about the others …

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Cosgrove#Honours_and_awards

  80. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 6:06 pm

    why would an aerial ping pong footballer get a medal

    Might have something to do with all the work he does to further Indigenous causes?

  81. January 28, 2016 6:40 pm

    “”All those uniforms getting medals, it wouldn’t be out of place in nth.korea.
    Look what we’ve come to!””

    I know.

    And religious nut jobs like Abbott and Andrews fleeing off overseas to mix amongst other religious nut jobs to spread their message of hate and intolerance.

    All paid for by the taxpayer no doubt.

    cunts.

  82. January 28, 2016 6:41 pm

    “Cosgrove is veteran who served overseas …”

    I guess that makes him alright then. 😯

  83. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 6:45 pm

    All those uniforms getting medals

    Not that any of them aren’t worthy of it, but, so are many others. It’s just a vivid image displaying the militarization of our country .. or so it seems 😉

  84. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 28, 2016 7:10 pm

    Who gets to pick them?

    You elect the president, (s)he chooses the executive. A bit like when Bob Carr was put in the Senate to be Foreign Minister (I think he did a good job by the way)

  85. January 28, 2016 7:14 pm

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  86. TB Queensland permalink
    January 28, 2016 9:30 pm

    I guess that makes him alright then.

    😯

    … and neither of you had a choice …

  87. TB Queensland permalink
    January 28, 2016 9:31 pm

    Is there a Liberal HQ Briefing Session on somewhere?

    Shit no! Its a Hillsong Meet!

  88. Tom R permalink
    January 28, 2016 9:34 pm

    You elect the president

    So a politician chooses. malcayman made some wonderful choices on the nobn board 😉

  89. TB Queensland permalink
    January 28, 2016 11:43 pm

    What if gays are just people and nobody’s “plan” …

  90. January 29, 2016 7:52 am

    Know,,,,,,anybody who might benefit from a free online self help type program for depression/anxiety?,,,,,,

    http://team.alp.org/shit-we-really-fcuked-ourselves-running-with-blib/

  91. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 29, 2016 8:55 am

    What a great job Bill is doing!

    According to a Fairfax-Ipsos federal poll, Labor’s primary vote in Victoria collapsed by nine percentage points to 28 per cent in October.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/liberals-eye-labor-marginals-after-turnbull-ascendancy-20160128-gmg7zr.html#ixzz3yZpFKxKb

  92. January 29, 2016 9:06 am

    BOARDROOMS SHOULD NEVER ALLOW PENALTY RATES

    But how much does this role pay? Starting rate is $17.32 per hour before tax, plus super, plus entitlements

    This is a permanent position which means 5 days a week, though the hours vary, but we only work Monday to Friday.

    http://www.seek.com.au/Job/30215419

  93. January 29, 2016 9:10 am

    omitting the resident feminista would be sexist:-)

    http://www.seek.com.au/Job/30176339

  94. January 29, 2016 9:33 am

    age,,,,,,,,,The Liberal Party has set its sights on the federal Labor seats of Chisholm and Bruce, claiming Bill Shorten is now weighing on Labor’s Victorian vote almost as heavily as Tony Abbott did for the Coalition.

    Liberal strategists have mischievously evoked the memory of Mr Abbott – widely regarded as political poison in Victoria – to describe Mr Shorten’s impact on his home state,,,,,,,,

    #all this blathering on `other` seats in boltsville is fine l suppose,

    #but lets face it, `every` australian would enjoy seeing Moonee Ponds going to the greenz

  95. January 29, 2016 10:00 am

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  96. TB Queensland permalink
    January 29, 2016 10:34 am

    Yep … nothing has changed … nor will it …

    … someone’s photoshopped the puppet strings out of the “image” of Milkum I see … 😀

  97. January 29, 2016 10:41 am

    the zombies have mr-poodle doing some unhinged mincing over this up-coming $150mill gay-marriage vote, after forcing the `cost` and `vote` onto the public unnecessarily, the zombies are now insisting they won`t up-hold it if the zombies don`t like the outcome

  98. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 29, 2016 11:49 am

  99. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 29, 2016 12:20 pm

    So where has the TGT far right faction disappeared to

    If you are talking about me – my NBN service died. On Tuesday night i went to bed with working NBN and woke up Wednesday morning with a non-working internet. Firstly because the NBN and phone are connected i had no land line. Luckily i had a mobile phone to ring up about my non-connection. I had to wait till Friday morning for someone to come out and fix the fault.This never happened when i had ADSL. If i had any problems i rang up and the fault was fixed over the phone. I suspect Labors NBN will be the greatest stuff up in Australian history.

    But if i could comment i would have said you are responsible (ie TB of Queensland) for every rape, murder and act of abuse that happened in detention centers that Rudd/Gillard built. There is a greater responsibility for those who create a problem when the problem had been previously solved.

  100. Tom R permalink
    January 29, 2016 12:31 pm

    Firstly because the NBN and phone are connected i had no land line

    I don’t have nobnm, and my internet is connected to the same line as the phone

    phunny that 😉

    Looks like talcum has done a wunnerful job of destroying the NBN hey nil 😉

    Labor’s primary vote in Victoria collapsed by nine percentage points to 28 per cent in October.

    so, nothing newsworthy to report, so they go back to polls from October.

    If only Labor would do something, you know, like release details of how they will fund Gonski or something [facepalm] They have one story in the politics section on it, which doesn’t even show up on their front page, but the “Bill sux” certainly does.

    Why oh why can’t Labor “cut through”? 😯

    Meanwhile, the libs continue to kill Australian jobs, and give them away.

  101. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 29, 2016 12:35 pm

    I don’t have nobnm, and my internet is connected to the same line as the phone

    Lucky for you. With Labors NBN the phone and computer are connected to the NBN fibre network, meaning that if NBN dies you have no home phone. That did not happen with ADSL

  102. Tom R permalink
    January 29, 2016 12:41 pm

    That did not happen with ADSL

    Heard of Naked DSL dopey?

    Didn’t you say you phoned out still. Think on that a bit before sounding even dumber than you are

  103. TB Queensland permalink
    January 29, 2016 12:42 pm

    But if i could comment i would have said you are responsible (ie TB of Queensland) for every rape, murder and act of abuse that happened in detention centers that Rudd/Gillard built.

    So be very, very careful when there is a knock at your door … 🙂

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    How ironic … unions fight for people’s rights … Liberal governments fight to remove people’s rights … but the unions are the bad guys … go figure??

  104. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 29, 2016 12:47 pm

    Didn’t you say you phoned out still.

    No, like most people i use my mobile for most things. But there are still people who use their land lines. If the NBN dies, the home phone dies. I think the NBN will be the biggest disaster in Australian history. What people want is mobile.

  105. TB Queensland permalink
    January 29, 2016 12:50 pm

    Try streaming Netflix to you TV with a mobile phone … Dickwit©

    Thick as thirty three planks … You only need to walk to the shop but I bet you’ve got a tricycle …

  106. TB Queensland permalink
    January 29, 2016 12:52 pm

  107. TB Queensland permalink
    January 29, 2016 12:56 pm

    :jawdrop:

    (experiment)

  108. TB Queensland permalink
    January 29, 2016 12:57 pm

    F! … ail

  109. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 29, 2016 12:57 pm

    Try streaming Netflix to you TV with a mobile phone … Dickwit©

    And how many people over 70 years of age could do something like that? Could your wife do that?

    Dickwit©

    I did not lock up 2,000 kids. You did.

  110. January 29, 2016 1:01 pm

    nice to see somebody enjoying the `fruits` of their copper-class network #GUFFAW

  111. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 29, 2016 1:03 pm

    nice to see somebody enjoying the `fruits` of their copper-class network

    You are just displaying your stupidity. Under Labors NBN the land line and internet are connected. If one dies they both die. That did not happen with the previous system

  112. January 29, 2016 1:04 pm

    keep an eye on windsor armchair, he hasn`t decided to run yet, l hope he does, l want to see him kick bananasby to the kerb:-)

  113. January 29, 2016 1:35 pm

    l don`t think you can blame teabag-media for `blib-sux` team-cheerer, it does seem to be the consensus, poll, after poll, after poll #justsaying

  114. Tom R permalink
    January 29, 2016 2:19 pm

    That did not happen with the previous system

    That’s because the previous system only had copper cables.

    If the cable went down, so did your phone.

    If only your internet went down, that is usually your ISP

    If you lost all communications through the NBN, then that means the fiber cable is down, and you were as stranded as you were with only copper cable if that went down.

    Except of course, as you mentioned, you had a mobile, which meant you still phoned someone.

    Really, your level of stupid is quite amazing.

  115. Tom R permalink
    January 29, 2016 2:25 pm

    it does seem to be the consensus, poll, after poll, after poll

    except, if it’s NOT consensus, just an ongoing character assassination that no lib leader ever gets, no matter how much they complain about it. Add to that incompetence.

    There seems to be some kind of issue there. Based on those party scores and the primaries Shorten’s better-PM should be at least 25 not 19. Something is wrong –

    http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2016/01/22/reachtel-55-45-to-coalition-2/?wpmp_switcher=mobile&comments=200#comment-2322892

    DOYLEY – We haven’t heard back from ReachTel. I think it can be safely assumed that:
    1. You were right that there was a big contradiction in their figures for the PPM (despite which, it made headlines all over Australia); and
    2. The idiots can’t even count. What does that say about polling in this country. Good grief.
    Well spotted

    http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2016/01/22/reachtel-55-45-to-coalition-2/?comment_page=51/#comment-2325384

  116. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 29, 2016 2:25 pm

    If the cable went down, so did your phone.

    But that never happened under the old system.

    Under Labors system if the internet fails so does your home phone

  117. January 29, 2016 2:47 pm

    crikey,,,,,,UPDATE 2 (26/1/16): The latest fortnightly face-to-face and SMS poll from Roy Morgan, which went from being the Coalition’s worst poll series to its best when Malcolm Turnbull took over, has given the government its weakest result since September. The Coalition is down 3.5% on the primary vote to 43.5%, but Labor is likewise down a point to a dismal 28%, with the Greens up two to 15%.,,,,,,

    #teabags 43.5% ,, team 28% ,, greenz 15%

    ,,,,,,On the headline respondent-allocated two-party preferred figure, the Coalition lead narrows from 56-44 to 55-45, while the previous election

    two-party result goes from 55.5-44.5 to 54-46.,,,,,,

    ,,,,,,The accompanying press release also informs us that the Nick Xenophon team is outpolling Labor in South Australia, where the primary votes are

    Coalition 31.5%, Labor 21.5% and NXT 22.5%.,,,,,,,

    #really, this only `proves` blib sux team-cheerer

  118. Tom R permalink
    January 29, 2016 3:48 pm

    But that never happened under the old system.

    So if the telephone cable went down, you didn’t lose your land line?

    I almost want to move to your reality now ROFL

    this only `proves` blib sux team-cheerer

    You mean the ‘team’ that saw off a first term pm in record time? That team?

    Did your phone NEVER go out either I wonder 😉

  119. January 29, 2016 3:57 pm

    t,,,,,,You mean the `team` that saw off a first term pm in record time? That team?,,,,,,

    #well l wasn`t going to mention kevin07 or jooLiar, but as you brought them up:-)

  120. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 29, 2016 4:19 pm

    So if the telephone cable went down, you didn’t lose your land line?

    But that never happened.

    But with the Queensland floods some people lost their NBN connection. With ADSL that would not have happened

  121. Tom R permalink
    January 29, 2016 4:32 pm

    With ADSL that would not have happened

    Better to educate yourself first before looking even dumber

    Support in emergencies and natural disasters

    …….
    “unlike copper, fiber optics aren’t damaged by the water. As part of this process, crews have already pulled fiber up the major corridors.” More here.

    http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2013/02/21/3695094.htm

  122. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 29, 2016 4:33 pm

    With the Queensland floods, power failures meant that people with Labors NBN were knocked out. People with copper wires could still use their phones and internet

  123. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 29, 2016 4:36 pm

    unlike copper, fiber optics aren’t damaged by the water

    But if their is a power failure the NBN does not work.

  124. January 29, 2016 4:39 pm

    zombie,,,,,the land line and internet are connected,,,,,

    #well done, obviously you can plug a `modem` or a `phone` into the socket, if the phone is dead, then obviously the modem is dead

  125. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 29, 2016 4:46 pm

    if the phone is dead, then obviously the modem is dead

    When i had ADSL sometimes the internet did not work but the phone line did. That does not apply with Labors NBN. If one dies they both die.

  126. TB Queensland permalink
    January 29, 2016 4:52 pm

    Really, your level of stupid is quite amazing.

    This sentence is vague but interesting, TR …

    And how many people over 70 years of age could do something like that? Could your wife do that?

    Apart from obviously not understanding the technology … 😀

    And here’s confirmation … (no proof tho’ …)

    With the Queensland floods, power failures meant that people with Labors NBN were knocked out. People with copper wires could still use their phones and internet

  127. January 29, 2016 5:02 pm

    k,,,,,I had to wait till Friday morning for someone to come out and fix the fault,,,,,

    #and what did the telco dude tell you was the `fault`

  128. January 29, 2016 5:09 pm

    zombie,,,,if their is a power failure the NBN does not work,,,,

    #if THERE is a power failure then`ya dial-up and computer won`t work FFS

  129. January 29, 2016 5:38 pm

    for those that remember me saying world fisheries are all on the same page in reply to some of dumptys-denial, l saw on tv earlier, `somewhere` in bananaland they are worried about reef-fish unable to grow/mature properly due to heat/acid of the ocean

  130. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 29, 2016 5:49 pm

    I think people might find that the old copper network is supported by UPS – phones still work during a power failure. The fibre network doesn’t run off that.

  131. January 29, 2016 6:13 pm

    Well done. Correct.

  132. Tom R permalink
    January 29, 2016 6:29 pm

    With the Queensland floods, power failures meant that people with Labors NBN were knocked out.

    Except of course, there was no NBN at the time of floods

    Yes, in “some” situations, the phone might work when a fibre cable doesn’t, but they would be few and far between. Copper (especially the pits) suffer badly in floods.

    http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/sydney-weather-how-storms-slow-the-internet-20150422-1mql6c.html

    Try reading the links in the Nick Ross article, it might open your eyes.

    #and what did the telco dude tell you was the `fault`

  133. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 29, 2016 6:46 pm

    Yes, in “some” situations, the phone might work when a fibre cable doesn’t,

    It is not the line that causes the trouble. The NBN needs an additional power supply to work something the current system does not need. If the power supply is knocked out the NBN does not work.

    if THERE is a power failure then`ya dial-up and computer won`t work FFS

    I think ADSL will work during a power failure and as long as you have some battery power in your laptop you should be able to use the internet for a few hours until your battery dies.

  134. TB Queensland permalink
    January 29, 2016 6:48 pm

    I think people might find that the old copper network is supported by UPS – phones still work during a power failure.

    Not in this QUEENSLAND household … and I live on a fkn hill with regard to flooding … and no they don’t with regard to power outage … modern phones are powered – via the POWER outlet on YOUR wall …

    I do wish people would do some research before they waffle about technology they obviously don’t understand …

    As the name suggests, fibre optic technology uses pulses of light to carry data along strands of glass or plastic … Traditional copper wires transmit electrical currents, while fibre optic technology sends pulses of light generated by a light emitting diode or laser along optical fibres.

    http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2010/10/21/3044463.htm

    Come back when YOU’RE fully charged!

  135. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 29, 2016 6:52 pm

    Almost every phone in the country is supported by UPS. Batteries in metro areas generally. Does not work with fibre.

    I think you’ll find that phones work in power outages TB.

  136. January 29, 2016 7:09 pm

    Who uses a landline these days anyway.

  137. January 29, 2016 7:16 pm

    Boo of melb is still correct teebz (old-copper, think telecom) and using a stock-standard `handset-phone`, your power-grid could go down, exchange has its own generator, converter and battery systems, Yep, was TA for tradies a couple of times over the years doing fit-outs.

  138. TB Queensland permalink
    January 29, 2016 7:23 pm

    Who uses a landline these days anyway.

    Chuckle … I do!

    I think you’ll find that phones work in power outages TB.

    No they don’t … I recently had the problem … as did everyone in my street!

    Modern landlines are powered by … POWER!**

    Thank goodness for mobile in an emergency … you may recall my family lives in three houses in the same street … landline is FREE with most packages … why use mobiles …

    **Apologies to ToM … there are new cordless phones that operate in a blackout …

    ‘Works During Blackout ‘ Power Failure Talk System –
    This series can be used even if power fails (in a black out). With enhanced anti-blackout features there is no interruption even if you are in mid-call when the power goes out.
    To continue talking, the user simply places the handset on the base* (to power the phone) and will then be able to continue ⁄ make & receive calls from the base using speakerphone. (If an additional handset is handy, calls can easily be made from the comfort of the 2nd handset).

    As I said earlier it pay to research … technology moves so fast its easy to get left behind … and I confess I haven’t been looking at landline phones (pointless) … just fkn NBN that’s all around us!

  139. TB Queensland permalink
    January 29, 2016 7:27 pm

    … exchange has its own generator,

    Yep, tbagz but if it an open circuit nothing will get through … but the same would apply to fibre optic … however, FO is far more robust in water than copper could ever be!

  140. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 29, 2016 7:39 pm

    The grey telecommunicatios boxes you see on the street usually contain a battery bank to keep phones going for a hours during a power failure. Traditional phones aren’t connected to the power grid. It’s low voltage.

  141. January 29, 2016 8:10 pm

    They`re separate systems ya`silly ol`bunt, by you`re logic, if ya`landline stops working, neither will ya`solar panels.

  142. TB Queensland permalink
    January 29, 2016 8:51 pm

    They`re separate systems ya`silly ol`bunt, by you`re logic, if ya`landline stops working, neither will ya`solar panels.

    TRUE – sort of! My panels will supply power to my home and THEN to the grid during the day! … I only feed off the grid at night … and if the power is down so am I …

    ya`silly ol` c**t …

    I actually posted a comment apologising to ToM … see above … battery power obviously keeps the phones operating …

  143. TB Queensland permalink
    January 29, 2016 8:53 pm

    battery power obviously keeps the phones operating … the phone line have always been on a separate circuit … but “cordless” phone systems need to be charged via line POWER …

  144. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 29, 2016 9:02 pm

    If War ever comes to Australia the NBN would be easy to knock out. Without power it does not work.

    And i never had to have someone come out and enter the premises when i had ADSL. And the guy was here to almost 2 hours before the NBN was working again. And getting the NBN installed was also a nightmare. It took several months of the technicians coming back 3 times before it was working. The only good thing is that the NBN is wireless so i do not need to stick a cable into my computer.

  145. TB Queensland permalink
    January 29, 2016 9:18 pm

    If War ever comes to Australia the NBN would be easy to knock out. Without power it does not work.

    ALL our comms are easy to knock out … FFS!

    The only good thing is that the NBN is wireless so i do not need to stick a cable into my computer.

    What can I say?

  146. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 29, 2016 9:34 pm

    They`re separate systems ya`silly ol`bunt,

    I can remember having internet trouble and ringing up on my landline for help when i had ADSL. That is something you could not do with the NBN. Luckily these days most people have mobile phones

  147. Tom R permalink
    January 29, 2016 10:10 pm

    Without power it does not work.

    Without power, nothing works.

    http://www.acma.gov.au/Industry/Suppliers/A-Type-of-equipment/Telecommunications-equipment/new-rules-for-service-providers-about-backup-power-supply-for-nbn-voice-services

    If War ever comes to Australia the NBN would be easy to knock out.

    Look into the history of the internet, and reflect on that statement lol

    That is something you could not do with the NBN.

    Read the first link nil 😉

  148. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 29, 2016 10:18 pm

    Read the first link nil

    Yep your link said this

    During a power failure, all services supplied over an optical fibre connection will stop working unless an alternative backup power supply—typically a battery—is installed at the individual’s premises to power the network termination device and a fixed-line telephone.

    The NBN will not work during a power failure but the old phone lines will.

  149. Tom R permalink
    January 29, 2016 10:31 pm

    The NBN will not work during a power failure unless an alternative backup power supply ……….. in other words, it can.

    but the old phone lines will.

    unless they don’t (eg, flood, as shown above).

    And in addition to that, are you able to even buy a phone that doesn’t require power anymore? So what’s the point of having a line, but a phone that doesn’t work without power?

  150. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 29, 2016 10:45 pm

    in other words, it can.

    Yes you need a backup power supply but who wants to pay for that?

  151. TB Queensland permalink
    January 29, 2016 11:36 pm

    La de da …. here we go round the BS bush …

  152. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 30, 2016 9:21 am

    Traditional landlines work in a power failure. The fibre network doesn’t have the UPS.

  153. TB Queensland permalink
    January 30, 2016 9:43 am

    http://www.kadansky.com/files/newsletters/2014/2014_08_31.html

    Should you get another UPS for other devices besides your computer?

    Ask yourself:

    •Beyond my computer, are there other powered devices that I also want to keep using for a few minutes during a power failure?

    For example:

    •Do you do a lot of work online that might get lost during a power failure? If so, you could put your cable or DSL internet modem and router on a UPS which (assuming your ISP is still functioning during the outage) would give you a few more minutes of online time to save your work. (This is known as “internet by candlelight.”) If you also use a VoIP phone (voice over IP telephone interface, e.g., your “Vonage box”), you could put that on a UPS as well.

    •Does your landline (or cordless) phone base unit need power to operate? Putting it on a UPS would give you a few minutes to make an emergency call or two, assuming your phone service was still active during the outage.

    •Would losing power to your cable TV box (or DVR, VCR, etc.) create a big inconvenience when power is restored (e.g., waiting hours for it to download your TV schedule)? Put it (or any low-power device where losing power will be inconvenient or annoying) on a UPS and hopefully save yourself that trouble.

    •While keeping a battery-powered flashlight nearby is best, consider putting your desk lamp on the UPS to provide a little emergency lighting.

    Now I actually own one of these big, clunky things … not sure who “owns” responsibility for the telephone lines themselves (still Telstra?) …

  154. TB Queensland permalink
    January 30, 2016 10:04 am

    NOTHING HAS CHANGED – EXCEPT THE GOVERNMENT’S COSTLY IDEOLOGY!

    It seems every decision from the Liberal Government is based on twisted krystian “beliefs” … and they COST and waste income … in an income strapped government that is incompetence of the highest level …

    Hypocrites working for the church and big business … the ultimate ROBBER BARONS …

    Abbott declined to take up Turnbull’s less-daft option in favour of the (for him) more politically expedient “kicking it into the long grass” option. And since he has become prime minister, Turnbull has also ignored his own advice because of the politically-expedient need to keep the conservative Liberals and the Nationals onside.

  155. TB Queensland permalink
    January 30, 2016 10:10 am

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jan/29/same-sex-marriage-turnbull-pushes-on-with-abbotts-plebiscite-and-its-still-daft

    A plebiscite was, of course, a truly daft idea. It would cost $150m at least. But it could not legally bind the parliament, which would have to hold a conscience vote on a new law anyway. Unless parliamentarians agreed to abide by the will of the people, it was pointless.

    Abbott knew it was daft because he had said so just three months earlier. After the Irish vote, he rejected the idea for Australia because “questions of marriage are the preserve of the Commonwealth parliament”.

    Malcolm Turnbull knew it because he said so very clearly in the days after the party room meeting. “The reason I have not advocated a plebiscite … after the next election is that … it will mean, that this issue is a live issue all the way up to the next election,” he said.

  156. Tom R permalink
    January 30, 2016 10:27 am

    Traditional landlines work in a power failure. The fibre network doesn’t have the UPS.

    But, you can provide a backup yourself. And, as I said, try to buy a phone these days that doesn’t require power to operate.

    http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/553033/acma_requires_nbn_warning_backup_power/

  157. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 30, 2016 11:40 am

    and they COST and waste income … in an income strapped government that is incompetence of the highest level …

    Strange comment for someone who voted for Rudd in 2007. In a burst of morality Rudd abolished the Pacific Solution that cost us $12B housing the 50,000 boat people who turned up. That is $12B spent under Rudd/Gillard and most probably 4 or $5B more since Labor lost office. Yes that is b for billions of dollars. Close to $20B spent/wasted because of your moral vanity.

    There were only 6 boat people in detention in 2007

  158. January 30, 2016 1:51 pm

    via/TB/guardian,,,,,,A plebiscite was, of course, a truly daft idea. It would cost $150m,,,,,,

    #l also followed thru to rabbits-sister and david-marrs posts. When l look at the performance of these canberra critters, they really are such sub-standard fcuking things, look at all the damn waste and bullshit that is going on, being spent on rigorously opposing about 3% (plus some in the closet l suppose) of citizens getting married, all, largely because the sky-fairy`s pedo-protectors think `gay` is immoral. l think the whole lot of them just prove how bankrupt the system and they are.

  159. TB Queensland permalink
    January 30, 2016 5:35 pm

    Opposition Leader Bill Shorten has accused the federal government of playing politics over a confidential volume of the trade union royal commission’s final report.

    Employment Minister Michaelia Cash has confirmed crossbench senators will be allowed to see the volume to help them deliberate on draft laws cracking down on union corruption, but it won’t be made public.

    “The royal commissioner said that no-one should see the confidential report. The Liberals are ignoring that and selectively showing some parts to some people for political gain,” Mr Shorten told reporters in Brisbane on Saturday.

    http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2016/01/30/govt-playing-politics-report-shorten

    Whatever happened to transparent government? Who owns that report! The people!!!

    What fkn morons!

    Nothing has changed … Abbott wrapped in Turnbull skin!

  160. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 30, 2016 5:51 pm

    Traditional landlines work in a power failure. The fibre network doesn’t have the UPS.

    My opinion of the ALP is that it is the party of the unforeseen stuff up. I cannot think of to many things that could go wrong because the NBN does not have UPS but who knows? Maybe during surgery at a hospital there may be a power failure and the doctor cannot use the phone. Labor just knows how not to think about the consequences of its policies.

    PS. I see you lefties are worried about $150M being spent on a plebiscite but do not blink an eyelid at the $15-$20B wasted because Rudd abolished the Pacific Solution. And that is the cost of just one ALP mistake. There are many others.

  161. Tom R permalink
    January 30, 2016 7:00 pm

    Is nil posting on dial up from 1980?

    Who owns that report!

    I hear it is currently sequestered in the Caymans 😉

    Not that there is anything wrong with that (according to our witless press thong anyway)

  162. Plank's Constants permalink
    January 30, 2016 7:28 pm

    Beam me ups, beam me downs.

  163. January 30, 2016 7:34 pm

    Just watching a Dusty Springfield retrospective. She was ostracised in her home town in the north-east of England because she was Catholic. TB might be able to enlighten us on this. It probably explains his bigotry.

  164. Will, To Power permalink
    January 30, 2016 7:37 pm

    We need engine(ering)s to make things go: Meet the first Australian family to get a Tesla Powerwall on their house

  165. January 30, 2016 7:40 pm

    Hello again, Meta.

  166. TB Queensland permalink
    January 30, 2016 8:06 pm

    Is nil posting on dial up from 1980?

    Could be … he was obviously born in 1880 … 😀

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Re: Dusty …

    … She was ostracised in her home town in the north-east of England because she was Catholic. TB might be able to enlighten us on this. It probably explains his bigotry.

    You don’t provide a link, ToSY … just a YouTube …

    I may be wrong but if I recall she and brother Tom came from London … not the North …

    Anyhoo!

    As for “bigotry” I call it enlightenment … as a child and teenager growing up in a CofE family I know all about bigotry, deceit and BS … especially if its challenged …

    And then my parents hit Oz … and were astounded that the CofE in Oz is High Church of England … in other words they go through all the katlyk crap of eating biscuits and drinking wine … and sucking little kids in their white dresses and shorts at around six … or should I say sicks …

    Bigotry my arse … try honesty and truth … for a change!

    My last encounter with a katlyk The Minister and I were called psychos .. because we had tried to help her addicted son with the truth instead of her lies …

    But its not just katlyks (they just seem to be the most nasty hypocrites) but ALL organised religions … you obviously don’t get that!

    The truth will always win!

    I wonder who has the better chance if the Pearly Gates actually exist?

  167. January 30, 2016 8:30 pm

    You’ve just confirmed your hatred. You can’t even bring yourself to write the word. To you it’s katlyk, or catlick, or whatever else your bigoted mind makes you write. Henry VIII would have been proud of you.

  168. January 30, 2016 8:35 pm

  169. January 30, 2016 8:53 pm

    Another Catholic who would not have been welcome in TB’s era of English ‘enlightenment’.

  170. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 30, 2016 9:14 pm

    Better Dusty

  171. armchair opinionator permalink
    January 30, 2016 9:15 pm

    And here it is, the justification for charging his US trip to the taxpayers.

  172. January 30, 2016 11:18 pm

    “You’ve just confirmed your hatred. You can’t even bring yourself to write the word. To you it’s katlyk, or catlick, or whatever else your bigoted mind makes you write””

    It’s always amusing when bigots accuse others of being bigots. Talk about rank hypocrisy.

    I’m old enough to remember how feared catholic priests were in the UK. The catholic Church held great power. Fortunately it’s no longer the case, and this is largely due to people waking up to the hypocrisy of the church lecturing others as to how to live their lives while they’re busy going around sexually, psychologically and physically abusing young children across the land.

    The reality is that in today’s enlightened times, reasonably intelligent people have realised that they don’t need a bunch of sick old pedophiles in funny outfits telling them how to live their lives.

  173. TB Queensland permalink
    January 31, 2016 12:41 am

    To you it’s katlyk, or catlick, or whatever else your bigoted mind makes you write.

    Because if I write catholic … mmm … until recently it came out Catholic …

    But its not just Christians (see? Automatic cap) or muslims (no cap see) or jews (no cap see) … hindu (no cap?) or Buddhist (ahh auto cap) …

    Certainly no auto cap for atheist, or in my case agnostic …

    And as for “hatred” I don’t use that word hate, nor do I hate anyone … religious people seem to use it … like bigot … its the hypocrisy that annoys me … JC (if he exists) must cringe as he watches organised religion break every “rule” put into place by him and his “dad” … Joseph always sounded like a nice bloke to me … it was the other one wot sounded so cruel and unforgiving …

    I’m sorry, ToSY, (for you) but the reality just doesn’t stack up to the myth …

    Believe it or not … I neither disbelieve in an all seeing god nor do I believe in one – I don’t know … but I’ll tell you one thing … I don’t lie, I don’t cheat, I don’t steal and I try to help people who are worse off than me …

    I do believe that I live in the best place there is right now … not when I’m dead … and try to do the best I can now … not when I’m dead … just do it!

    Bigoted? Hate? Nah, pissed off with the hypocrisy!

    Maybe its my life experiences that I write about … there’s been more than a few!

    Happy New Year … 🙂

  174. January 31, 2016 6:09 am

    Telstra,,,,,,used waterproof gel to seal its copper network joints and keep out the water. This caused several issues, all of which are poorly documented. Firstly a batch of the gel immediately corroded around three per cent of the joints.,,,,,,

    ,,,,,,Telstra acknowledged and dealt with the matter. The problem was that the gel also sealed existing water into the copper cables leading to additional corrosion.,,,,,,

    ,,,,,,Everyone in management is denying there is any problem here, but it’s a huge one,,,,,,

    ,,,,,,Seal the CAN!” That was the catch cry by managers about 15-20 years ago, The CAN is [the copper] Customer Access Network.,,,,,

    ,,,,,,We had managers stand up and gleefully tell us that this would mean the end of us all, as soon as everything was sealed they would get rid of everyone.,,,,,,

    ,,,,,,They were so sure that they put in place systems to track everyone’s use of the product and were following us around to make sure that it was used. This was from top management all the way down. If lower-level managers weren’t policing it they were in the gun. Three strikes and you’re out was another familiar catch cry, if they found you failed to use it on three joints you would be sacked on the spot. That was the policy and so the gel was poured into hundreds of thousands of joints all over the country.,,,,,,

    ,,,,,,,management continued to ignore it and escalated surveillance measures again because they thought it was a plot to keep our jobs. It took probably 10 or more years before it was accepted that it was causing problems, then several more years before we were allowed to stop using it. We were never officially told that it was a problem and to stop using it, managers suddenly were just very quiet about it.,,,,,,,

    http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2013/09/19/3851924.htm

    #as l`ve tried to point-out to boo-melb many a time, `managers` are often the `less` intelligent of all the critters in the system, and are usually behind the majority of `wreckage` in any biz(not-onions) and the `script` above is common across multiple biz/industry`s that end-up `wrecked`. .. #worshiping.false.dog

  175. Tom R permalink
    January 31, 2016 9:10 am

    Catholics have a long and proud history. It’s no wonder they refuse to reform.

  176. January 31, 2016 10:05 am

    THE WEEKLY ORBITER

    FLAT LAND-MASS SCIENCE EDITION

    Around 6000 years ago, a herd of primates tumbled out of the tree-top onto a perfectly flat land-mass to scavange meat from the carcass of the dead animal below.

    While feeding, a sky fairy fluttered down nearby and said to the primates `your dining skills are impecible` and ,,,,Henry VIII would have been proud of you.,,,

    As the snake was slithering by, the snake told the sky fairy `stop mocking the simple primates, you always say you love them, but`,,,,You`ve just confirmed your hatred.,,,

    The sky fairy retorted to the snake, `you hypocrite` ,,,,To you it`s katlyk, or catlick, or whatever else your bigoted mind makes you write.,,, ,,,,You can`t even bring yourself to write the word.,,,, as the snake slthered off.

    “l don`t recall the snake writing much” said the burning bush to the sky fairy, “as some fcuker forgot to give him hands”

  177. TB Queensland permalink
    January 31, 2016 10:23 am

    … a long and proud history …

    Got link for that? Especially the “proud” bit? 😈

    And now it seems I’m a snake?

    “But I don’t want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.

    “Oh, you can’t help that,” said the Cat: “we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.”

    “How do you know I’m mad?” said Alice.

    “You must be,” said the Cat, “or you wouldn’t have come here.”

    ― Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    … they don’t need a bunch of sick old pedophiles in funny outfits telling them how to live their lives.

    No-one seems to notice that organised religions are all organised by MEN … and EXCLUSIVE to MEN running them … what’s sad is the number of women who support this hypocrisy …

  178. TB Queensland permalink
    January 31, 2016 10:32 am

    Why didn’t we just knock down the old one and build four more?!

    Welcome inside the Lodge, the prime minister’s official Canberra residence, which has reopened after $9.4m of refurbishments.

    Work began in 2013 with an expected cost of $3.2m and aimed to deal with several health and safety issues including a rotten roof, broken slate titles, dangerous cloth wiring and significant amounts of asbestos. But the project later widened in scope.

    Elizabeth Kelly, deputy secretary of the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet, says one of the problems was that the house had not been waterproof for a long time.

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jan/31/the-lodge-has-seen-prime-ministers-come-and-go-and-that-was-just-during-the-renovations

    What was that about leaners and lifters … and expenditure being the real problem not income … and nary a mention of:

    ► Negative Gearing welfare

    ► Trust Fund welfare

    ► Super Tax Breaks for the rich welfare

    ► Multi-national Tax dodge welfare

    ► Present pollie’s expenses welfare

    ► Post pollie’s expenses welfare

    ► Bean bag wastefulness

    ► International Travel wastefulness

    ► Gay marriage plebiscite wastefulness

    ► $9.4 billion Lodge wastefulness

  179. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 31, 2016 11:52 am

    Why didn’t we just knock down the old one and build four more?!

    You would have to ask Gillard since she authorised the renovations. But i suspect it is a heritage building so could not be knocked down

    and expenditure being the real problem not income

    We had no problems until you voted for Rudd in 2007. Just one policy change, the abolition of the Pacific Solution by Labor, has cost us $15-$20B with nothing to show in return except a bunch of newly built detention centers.

  180. TB Queensland permalink
    January 31, 2016 12:55 pm

    The Libs stopped the boats (at great hidden expense – including a wasteful $400 million on medals) and stopped the carbon tax and stopped paying for everything else … pay and conditions for the ADF … PBS medicine for the sick … pap smear tests … Gonski funding … NDIS funding … uni funding … the ABC from reporting the damage to the NBN …

    … but they didn’t stop the spending on The Lodge … nah, it increased from $3 million to $9 million under the Libs watch … like everything else in the economy!

    More hypocrisy …

  181. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 31, 2016 1:35 pm

    nah, it increased from $3 million to $9 million under the Libs watch

    Yeah and there have never been cost blowouts before. Lesson- never trust Labor.

    Hard to beat the extra spending because Labor abolished the Pacific Solution. We went from housing 6 boat people most probably because they could not get a security clearance costing not much, to housing 50,000 boat people costing/wasting $15-$20B.

    Top that

  182. January 31, 2016 3:05 pm

    blib was waffling on my frightened abc24 a little earlier, he was managing to say all the correct words, unfortunately my eyes started to glaze-over, which l was well aware of, and l thought to myself `oh fcuk, this is a nationwide transmission, and here is blib, probably boring most of the nation bat-shit`. l remember kim-beazly having a similar effect, and wasn`t that the gift that just kept on giving for john-w?

    TB,,,,,,the number of women who support this hypocrisy,,,,,

    #nah not really teebz, the dog-club females are basically the demographic the feminista spent years belting over the head that `career` must be their goal, not `breeding`

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