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February 19, 2016

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Hello everybody

It’s a been a while since we had an open discussion thread.  Usually coz “you lot” just talk about whatever you like anyway… 🙂

Anyway, here is an official open discussion thread where you may express your inner most feelings…

 

enjoy.

 

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  1. TB Queensland permalink
    February 19, 2016 6:26 pm

    Anyway, here is an official open discussion thread where you may express your inner most feelings…

    No …

  2. TB Queensland permalink
    February 20, 2016 9:02 am

    And doth the toll knell
    For Cardinal Pell?
    Deeds from the past
    Arisen at last?

    http://www.news.com.au/national/cardinal-george-pell-under-investigation-over-allegations-of-child-abuse/news-story/5d2f12f27a554b296331dc7a77797e20

  3. Tom R permalink
    February 20, 2016 9:33 am

    No …

    hmm, TB’s innermost feelings? very yabottish 😉

    My innermost feelings. Pretty simple atm 🙂

  4. Tom R permalink
    February 20, 2016 10:54 am

    Looks like the big scare campaign is off to a bad start. They need to follow Labors lead on “scare” campaigns. Back policies that are fair, it’s quite simple really.

    Oh, and don’t bullshit”The Labor Party’s negative gearing policy and its wind-back on the capital gains discount – its increase in tax on capital gains – is a very dangerous one. It’s been very, very poorly thought out,” Mr Turnbull said on Friday.

    “The consequence of it will be a decline in property prices, every home owner in Australia has a lot to fear from Bill Shorten.”

    But independent modelling shows there will be “significant” long-term savings from Labor’s proposal to quarantine negative gearing to new housing investments from July 2017, eventually raising between $3.5 to $3.9 billion a year.

    It also shows Labor’s proposal to cut the capital gains tax discount from 50 per cent to 25 per cent would raise about $2 billion a year in the long term.

    It shows the vast majority of savings would be at the expense of the top 10 per cent of earners who negatively gear their properties.

    It also estimates that by restricting negative gearing to new housing, the policy would “increase the share of investment housing devoted to newly built housing” by 10 to 20 per cent.

    It does not say house prices would drop.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/independent-modelling-backs-labors-negative-gearing-policy-20160219-gmyl8o.html#ixzz40f1rwWp1
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  5. Tom R permalink
    February 20, 2016 11:01 am

    I blame Saturday formatting 😦

  6. TB Queensland permalink
    February 20, 2016 11:02 am

    Another One Bite’s the Dust!

    Maverick Liberal senator Bill Heffernan will bow out of politics at the next federal election.

    Senator Heffernan told AAP on Saturday that he did not nominate for the NSW Liberal Party Senate ticket but declined to comment further.

    The outspoken 72-year-old farmer is well known for smuggling a fake pipe bomb into parliament and for making false claims under parliamentary privilege about a former High Court judge.

  7. TB Queensland permalink
    February 20, 2016 11:02 am

    Is it Saturday already?

  8. Tom R permalink
    February 20, 2016 11:17 am

    Is it Saturday already?

    It better be, or me boss is gonna be pissed 😉

  9. TB Queensland permalink
    February 20, 2016 11:23 am

    It also estimates that by restricting negative gearing to new housing, the policy would “increase the share of investment housing devoted to newly built housing” by 10 to 20 per cent.

    And as I noted yesterday it would boost the economy! By increasing business transactions, trade incomes, training apprentices, and churning the economy … increasing the opportunity for new home and young families to opt into the market and own rather than rent …

    Decisions made with “investment” as the foundation only help the rich … decisions based on providing homes for Australians will do the ECONOMY more good than providing WELFARE for wannabe Robber Barons.

  10. TB Queensland permalink
    February 20, 2016 11:25 am

    Chuckle … mine keeps giving jobs around the house … “could you have a look at this?” “how can I do this?” – Its all a plot to get me off here!

    National????

  11. Tom R permalink
    February 20, 2016 11:29 am

    Its all a plot to get me off here!

    Sounds remarkably similar TB. But, it does make Monday mornings much more approachable 🙂

    Although, like me, I note you’re still there 😉

  12. February 20, 2016 11:32 am

    The Herald Sun claims,,,,,,Victoria Police Sano taskforce has a collection of documents alleging Cardinal Pell committed `multiple offences` while he was a priest in Ballarat and also the Archbishop of Melbourne,,,,,,

    http://www.news.com.au/national/cardinal-george-pell-under-investigation-over-allegations-of-child-abuse/news-story/5d2f12f27a554b296331dc7a77797e20

    #it`s all very frightening, where does a devout teabag go with this one? ,, On one hand they need to defend their dog-club leader from the boltsville-plod documents and pretend they are lies ,, But on the other hand, this is being reported by limited-news, and as we all know everything the ruperts write is 100%-true! ,, l guess we`ll all have to wait for the `wisdom` of tinfoil-oops-i-may-be-a-pedo-defender`osy and boo-gosh-i-may-be-one-too-of-melb to explain away the facts to us.

  13. TB Queensland permalink
    February 20, 2016 12:40 pm

    See 9:02 am above tbagz … 🙂

    Sounds remarkably similar TB

    ‘Tis a conspiracy oi tell ‘ee, Jim, lad!

  14. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 21, 2016 10:45 am

  15. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 21, 2016 11:00 am

    So what I have to undergo every time I fly is too demeaning for julie bishop. I have a public frisk because of metal in my leg. Julie says she’s ‘just the same as everyone else’…except for when they actually want to do it to her too!

  16. February 21, 2016 11:03 am

    David Marr nails it on Insiders:

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  17. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 21, 2016 11:25 am

    Why lie about it?
    Every time I go through the scanners and get frisked I have to worry about where my handbag and shoes have ended up and whether anyone may have ‘lifted’ my unattended handbag left on the counter. None of the security staff care.

    http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/julie-bishop-complained-after-pat-down-at-melbourne-airport-documents-show-20160220-gmz6up.html#ixzz40l06wKIL

    …An email shows Julie Bishop did complain about her treatment at Melbourne Airport last year…

    …The airport detailed how Ms Bishop had been chosen for scanning but her jacket set off the alarm due to “buttons or a brooch”, leading to her being asked to remove the jacket.
    “In the course of being scanned a staffing change occurred and the lane swapped. This led to the Foreign Minister’s belongings (including her shoes) to be not where she was and she was left without her belongings (and her shoes) for over a minute after the scanning was complete,” Department of Infrastructure director Cathy Murphy told colleagues in an email.
    “The CCTV shows the Foreign Minister’s face which could be described as unhappy.”…

  18. TB Queensland permalink
    February 21, 2016 11:51 am

    Why lie about it?

    Insiders

    Exactly what I thought as I watched her straight faced comedy skit … another waffler too BTW … said absolutely nothing that anyone could have said … how much do we pay these well dressed clowns?

    David Marr came across as bearing a cross but as he said, it had to be said!

    Stop the boats by all means … but its how its done and how asylum seekers and refugees are treated as guilty until proven innocent that erks most intelligent Australians …

  19. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 21, 2016 11:51 am

    Bill Shorten heckled by own crowd at rally protesting health cuts
    http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bill-shorten-heckled-by-own-crowd-at-rally-protesting-health-cuts-20160220-gmzcfh.html#ixzz40l3mSLDM

    …”People from the crowd started shouting ‘Shorten, close the camps’ which led to almost unanimous chanting of ‘let them stay’,” she told Fairfax Media.
    “It was disappointing to see Shorten speak about protecting vulnerable people from Medicare cuts whilst hurting the most vulnerable people fleeing war by locking them up in Nazi-like concentration camps.” she added.
    Labor’s policy on refugees is similar to that of the Liberals. Labor supports the current government policy of boat turnbacks and mandatory detention…

    We’re all battlers now. Government handouts are demanded for everything, you need it for your kid’s private schooling and your private hospital membership so you can jump the queues that the ‘other battlers’ have to remain in. Remember when it used to be a bad thing to have to rely on government handouts to get by, to shop and pay off your mcmansions?
    Howard & costello made it cool though, they also made it OK to be nasty, divisive and hateful to minorities, they are too aspirational and they might need the government handouts that good australians rely upon, asylum seekers are bad people even if their situations are far worse, far more barbaric and inhumane than ours will ever be.

    The four-letter word you won’t hear spoken by politicians
    http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/the-fourletter-word-you-wont-hear-spoken-by-politicians-20160216-gmv5o4.html#ixzz40l57QHK8

    …It’s OK to want to be rich because that’s aspirational. It takes hard work, sweat, determination and possibly some government assistance to haul yourself up through the ranks of society. But it’s not OK to be rich because that could expose you to all sorts of possible trouble such as the suggestion that you don’t need handy tax breaks like the superannuation offset and negative gearing.

    The aspirational voter has come to dominate the minds of politicians and has done so ever since John Howard redefined who was a Liberal voter with his march through western Sydney in 1996. The Howard years were accompanied by a period of economic golden times complete with plenty of hand outs for everyone deemed to be doing the right thing such as working, preferably raising a family and trying to get ahead.
    One of the ways people get ahead is by negative gearing…

  20. February 21, 2016 12:04 pm

    The only disappointing bit about that clip of David Marr is that it missed the bit where he slammed Gerard Henderson’s feeble attempts to defend the govt’s handling of asylums seekers as “utter bullshit”!

    #slapdown!

  21. TB Queensland permalink
    February 21, 2016 12:11 pm

    Re BS … absofknlutely!

    Henderson’s a Liberal lap dog but at least people like Marr have someone to whack!

    Did they agree on anything … think there was one?

  22. TB Queensland permalink
    February 21, 2016 12:27 pm

    Just what is the TurnAbbout Agenda?

  23. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 21, 2016 12:32 pm

    Hendo: “You’re just emoting david” 🙄
    Morals and ethics are foreign to the liberals [and labor] on this.

    When doctors start civil disobedience it’s time to take notice
    http://www.bmj.com/content/352/bmj.i996

    …Australia must repeal provisions of an act that can imprison doctors for doing the right thing

    Doctors have an ethical code that has been in development since the time of the Hippocratic physicians on the Greek island of Kos nearly 2500 years ago. It was this ethical code that marked out the Hippocratics from their Aesculapian predecessors, and the code’s persistence and development from that time to the present day are proof enough of its importance to us as individuals and to wider society. At some time in our lives we will all be patients, and we all need to be able to have absolute trust in our doctors to do the right thing for us, whatever actions others may wish them to take.

    Set against this 2500 year old ethical code we now have a recently passed law in Australia, the Border Force Act, that gags healthcare professionals and others involved in caring for asylum seekers and that compels them to follow the instructions of the government, even if they believe that this might be to the detriment of their patients. And, in a double whammy, not only can they be rendered powerless to protect the welfare of their patients as they see it, but they can be imprisoned even for disclosing that fact….

  24. TB Queensland permalink
    February 21, 2016 1:14 pm

    Pity the ALP can’t take up the Human Rights cudgel, KL … the Greens too …

    Its all about the Economy!

    Results are OK but its the modus operandi that’s in question and I agree when health professionals stand up for Human Rights we should all stand up!

  25. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 21, 2016 3:34 pm

  26. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 21, 2016 4:12 pm

  27. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 21, 2016 5:05 pm

    Legal questions over Robb, Ruddock special envoy jobs
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2016/02/20/legal-questions-over-robb-ruddock-special-envoy-jobs/14558868002912

    …‘Office of profit’

    Dreyfus, a Queen’s counsel, believes the two appointments could potentially be found in breach of section 44 of the constitution, which renders anyone seeking to claim a seat in parliament ineligible if he or she holds a separate “office of profit under the Crown”…

    …Neither Ruddock nor Robb – whose job had not been announced when Senator McEwen asked her questions – are being paid for their new jobs…

    …“It does not matter that a person declines to claim any payment while a member of parliament. As long as the right to payment attaches to the office, that is enough to make it an ‘office of profit’ and to cause the person to be disqualified.”…

    The case for a federal ICAC:
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2016/02/19/the-case-federal-icac/14558429172911

    …Resistance to a federal corruption commission is expected to be intense from within the political parties and the Murdoch press because, as in NSW, its very existence would confront Australia’s corruptible and influence-peddling political and commercial cultures.

    Examples of corruption will be fobbed off as “just a few bad apples”. As in NSW, such an investigative body will be likened to a “star chamber” or a Russian show trial…

    But the need and the benefits are manifest.

    …The NSW ICAC, with a budget of $25 million, assesses an annual state public-sector budget of $70 billion. With the Commonwealth’s annual expenditure now running at $434 billion, the case for an adequately funded countermeasure for a culture vulnerable to corruption would seem to be self-evident…

  28. TB Queensland permalink
    February 21, 2016 5:49 pm

    With the Commonwealth’s annual expenditure now running at $434 billion, the case for an adequately funded countermeasure for a culture vulnerable to corruption would seem to be self-evident…

    Absolutely!

  29. Tom R permalink
    February 22, 2016 10:14 am

    So, the libs have come up with another wonderful idea to kill off compulsory super. while att the same time complaining about the rising cost of pensions. What a joke.

    They reckon those poor people who don’t earn a lot need everything they can get. This is of course just weeks after pushing for penalty rates to be stripped. I’ll give them one thing, they’ve got Balls!

    New Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce has said low income households would benefit greatly if they were allowed to opt out of making compulsory super contributions.

    Mr Joyce said they would be better off using the extra money to buy their own homes, setting them up materially for when they start drawing on the pension.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/barnaby-joyce-backs-allowing-low-income-earners-to-opt-out-of-compulsory-super-20160221-gmzja6.html#ixzz40qaVPeab
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    I think between them, Kenny and Divine have hit the nail on the proverbial (yes TB, you said it first 😉 )

  30. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 22, 2016 10:18 am

    Stephen Fry must have read KL’s twitter dump:

    Let us grieve at what Twitter has ­become. A stalking ground for the sanctimoniously self-righteous who love to second-guess, to leap to conclusions and be offended — worse, to be offended on behalf of others they do not even know. It’s as nasty and unwholesome a characteristic as can be imagined. It doesn’t matter whe­ther they think they’re defending women, men, transgender people, Muslims, humanists … the ghastliness is absolutely the same. It makes sensible people want to take an absolutely opposite point of view. I’ve heard people shriek their secularism in such a way as to make me want ­instantly to become an evangelical Christian.

  31. Tom R permalink
    February 22, 2016 10:24 am

    It’s as nasty and unwholesome a characteristic as can be imagined.

    Shit, imagine what he’d say about the GutterTrash then 😯

  32. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 22, 2016 10:32 am

    The ALP locked up 8,000 kids. Apparently none of them got sick. That is until the Coalition got into power and there are now less than 80 kids in detention.

  33. Tom R permalink
    February 22, 2016 10:37 am

    A good question from a twit-ter

  34. TB Queensland permalink
    February 22, 2016 10:47 am

    Just noticed the number of “hits” = almost a million … 🙂

    Big party at sreb’s place soon … 😉

  35. TB Queensland permalink
    February 22, 2016 10:48 am

    Anyone else having to log in for every comment?

  36. Tom R permalink
    February 22, 2016 10:58 am

    Wait.. we’re supposed to log in? 😯 🙂

  37. TB Queensland permalink
    February 22, 2016 11:00 am

    This needs to be fixed too! And swiftly …

    Transgender advocates claim that taking a case like this through the court system can cost up to $30,000 and take many months. They also cite the emotional distress this places on the child and their family …

    …. Backing up his daughter, Andrew questions why children and their families must be put through this “pointless” legal process.

    “When you’ve got the child, her family, and the doctors all in agreement about what’s going on, why does the court need to be involved?”

    http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/kids/fighting-for-isabelle-the-battle-for-transgender-kids-to-get-access-to-crosssex-hormones/news-story/1083395b247646e0db8b6888a5d8334e

  38. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 22, 2016 11:04 am

    Stephen Fry must have read KL’s twitter dump

    Yes well, stephen would say that wouldn’t he? He’s not always covered himself in glory on twitter. He deactivates his twitter account on a regular basis, usually after being very melodramatic or a bit of a prat. He usually comes back after a sulk 😆

    Stephen Fry quits Twitter following uproar over ‘bag lady’ jibe
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/12157533/Stephen-Fry-quits-Twitter-following-uproar-over-bag-lady-jibe.html
    The star’s Twitter account appears to have been deactivated in the wake of fierce criticism of his comments at the BAFTAs

  39. TB Queensland permalink
    February 22, 2016 11:07 am

    Wait.. we’re supposed to log in?

    Seems its only if I use Win 10 Edge – useless piece of shite …

    IE is OK …

    Checked the trailer for Chinese film The Assassin last night … if you like films like Red Cliff this looks really well made (best director @ Cannes) …

  40. TB Queensland permalink
    February 22, 2016 11:09 am

    He deactivates his twitter account on a regular basis, usually after being very melodramatic or a bit of a prat

    Ahhhh … the vagaries of a super brained gay laddie … 😉

  41. February 22, 2016 11:12 am

    “”the vagaries of a super brained gay laddie …””

    I know.

    It’s a curse.

  42. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 22, 2016 11:24 am

    Big party at sreb’s place soon … ;)”

    Yeah!! Live it up TB!!!!

  43. TB Queensland permalink
    February 22, 2016 11:46 am

    Yeah!! Keep it up ToM!!!!

  44. February 22, 2016 11:52 am

    LOL… 🙂

  45. February 22, 2016 12:47 pm

    TB,,,,,we should all stand up!,,,,,

    #Not necessarily teebz. Voting at 3000-yards may require a different position:-)

  46. TB Queensland permalink
    February 22, 2016 1:09 pm

    I can hit a target over open sights at 300m … with a .308, tbagz … what about you? 😉

  47. February 22, 2016 2:31 pm

    age,,,,,she said she never personally complained about it.

    `I didn’t complain, but airport authorities found that I had been inappropriately targeted and treated inappropriately,` Ms Bishop told Insiders host Barrie Cassidy.

    Mr Cassidy then asked her: `Somebody complained on your behalf?`

    Ms Bishop replied: `It would seem so. It wasn’t me. I didn’t make any complaint.`

    `But there was an investigation into it and it was found that there were breaches of security protocols and that I was given, let me put it this way, an inappropriate amount of attention,` she said.,,,,,,

    +

    age,,,,The 18 documents show Ms Bishop’s complaint quickly led to departmental officials demanding an explanation from airport management.,,,,,

    +

    age,,,,,The explanation appears to hinge on the word `official` becaus,,,,

    #the teabags really are weak cnuts aren`t they? ,, JooLie and/or `office` has done all they could to `infer` a complaint while claiming `not-official` over the frisk that anybody and everybody else has to have. Maybe armchair should bleat incessantly to the prime meddlers office about the frisks that piss her off (and everybody else) at airports and see if their complaints get treated the same as jooLies. #teabags

    +

    #Nah teebz, l need the `enhanced` voting kit:-)

  48. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 22, 2016 5:09 pm

    Maybe armchair should bleat incessantly to the prime meddlers office about the frisks that piss her off (and everybody else) at airports and see if their complaints get treated the same as jooLies…

    Hmmm, the response I get might just be worth it, good idea 🙂

    Andrew Bolt lashes out at Herald Sun reporter over George Pell story
    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/feb/22/andrew-bolt-lashes-out-at-herald-sun-reporter-over-george-pell-story

    …Pell has strongly denied allegations of involvement in child sexual abuse, saying they are without foundation and utterly false.

    In his column in Monday’s paper Bolt said the Pell report published in the Herald Sun on Saturday was worse than “vicious and shameful” and the leak to the paper “stinks”.

    “It smells like an attempt to destroy a man without giving him a chance to defend himself,” Bolt said.

    “Now the campaign to destroy Pell has become sinister as well, after it was joined by – in my view – elements of Victoria Police.”…

    The cops are finally doing their jobs and the plutocracy don’t like it one bit.

  49. TB Queensland permalink
    February 22, 2016 5:52 pm

    The cops are finally doing their jobs and the plutocracy don’t like it one bit.

    Realising they are the peasants after all and not knights of the fkn square table! And Being screwed by the Robber Barons and Bishops!

  50. Tony permalink
    February 27, 2016 7:35 pm

    Is this thing on?

  51. February 27, 2016 8:13 pm

    The Lizard King

  52. February 27, 2016 8:28 pm

    Lizard eater:

  53. February 27, 2016 8:34 pm

    Breakfast

  54. February 27, 2016 8:40 pm

    Oh why don’t you stick your paintings up your Catholic paedophile-defending arse and start inhabiting the real world for a change ToSY…

  55. February 27, 2016 9:08 pm

    “Oh why don’t you stick your paintings up your Catholic paedophile-defending arse and start inhabiting the real world for a change ToSY…”

    I’m not sure where the real world is. Are you?

  56. February 27, 2016 9:21 pm

  57. February 27, 2016 9:32 pm

    “”I’m not sure where the real world is. Are you?””

    No not at all, although I’m 100% sure it’s not the “real world” according to the tims.

  58. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 28, 2016 11:28 am

    I never did understand the paintings, what do they mean?

    The real world, where do you draw the line, who gets to decide and why?
    The real world is something you talk about when someone doesn’t like yours.
    All I know is, we need to find a happy place somewhere in a corner of this stink’n real world or we’ll go mad.

    I have always loved that song tosy, but this is how I remember it

  59. February 28, 2016 3:24 pm

    “I have always loved that song tosy, but this is how I remember it”

    So do I, but remember Noddy Holder on ‘Slade Alive’ introducing it as a song by John Sebastian.

  60. TB Queensland permalink
    February 28, 2016 7:14 pm

    14 YEARS! 14 FKN YEARS! FOURTEEN FUCKING YEARS!

    Germany has twisted judges too!

    Two bullets are cheaper … maybe China gets some things right! Fourteen years for the death of a woman and her eight month old child!

    A FATHER-to-be has killed his heavily pregnant teenage girlfriend, by burning her alive, to avoid becoming a dad.

    Maria Peiner, 19, was lured into the woods on the outskirts of Germany by Eren Toben and his 20-year-old friend Daniel Mueller, The Mirror reports.

    http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/expectant-mother-burned-alive-by-fathertobe/news-story/ff934bdea93bb4259bb608109205f915

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