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Budget Night Bingo!

May 2, 2016

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It’s back!

Our fun-filled budget night extravaganza that happens only once a year – Budget Night Bingo!  Brought to you by our valued new sponsors Berocca and Smirnoff.

For those who are unfamiliar with the territory here’s how it works…

You will need:

At least two bottles of an acceptable red wine (or equivalent)

Some snacks

A piece of cardboard

A pair of scissors

Some glue or sticky tape

A pen (or pencil)

Instructions:

  1. Print out the “”EXCLUSIVE”” Gutter Trash Bingo card pictured above
  2. Stick it on to the piece of cardboard using the glue or some sticky tape, or blu-tack even.
  3. Tune in to the ABC to watch ScoMo’s Federal Budget speech on Tuesday night.
  4. When he says something that’s printed on the Bingo card, have swig of grog.
  5. Repeat until pissed.

P.S. The Gutter Trash encourages responsible drinking. Enjoy alcohol in moderation or drink a much as you like. Whatever.

P.P.S. You can also suggest your own Bingo catchphrases,or just make it up as you go along.

 

 

 

 

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306 Comments leave one →
  1. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 3, 2016 2:21 am

    Here in San Diego it’s warm and few seem interesred in the budget

    If the budget starts at about 8pm . that’s 3am here and I’ll be talking to Fifi’s Californian cousin , though probably about the budget or something

  2. Tom R permalink
    May 3, 2016 7:08 am

    While you are there yomm, ask her how the hell the USA can spend more on health than Australia, yet nobody is bloody well covered over there?

    And that’s the model the libs want to replicate?

  3. May 3, 2016 7:38 am

    Reblogged this on The Grovely Gazette.

  4. Tom R permalink
    May 3, 2016 7:46 am

    Why do my eyes water and legs involuntarily cross when I see this?

  5. Tom R permalink
    May 3, 2016 7:47 am

    And murdor has definitely chosen his side in this election, and the polishing has begun in earnest.

  6. jayess permalink
    May 3, 2016 9:22 am

    I love this it is so true. This Murdoch backed Government is the cruellest in Australia’s history. 1 more slogan which will win a few drinks is “Stopped the boats”.

  7. Tom R permalink
    May 3, 2016 9:46 am

    So, after you get past the polishing the media are currently giving the budget, it seems this is really the libs first two budgets with even more polish than the previous two.

    The first Turnbull budget will be propped up by about $13 billion of so-called “zombie measures”, which are still on the books from the first and second Abbott budgets but have not yet been passed by the Senate.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/federal-budget/budget-2016-tony-abbotts-zombies-add-billions-to-malcolm-turnbulls-first-budget-20160502-gok2hr.html#ixzz47XIyMiyn
    Follow us: @smh on Twitter | sydneymorningherald on Facebook

    And, if the election is called on the weekend, will this be the first grubmint to never have passed a budget?

  8. May 3, 2016 9:50 am

    “1 more slogan which will win a few drinks is “Stopped the boats”.”

    Good lord how could I have forgotten about that one?

    Hope to see you here tonight jayess …😊

  9. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 3, 2016 11:12 am

    Build a wall and send the bill to Mexico

  10. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 3, 2016 11:43 am

    Don’t let him destroy Obama’s legacy

  11. Walrus permalink
    May 3, 2016 12:30 pm

    “A Stronger Australia”

    “A Better Future”

    “Responsibe Policy”

  12. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 3, 2016 1:15 pm

    And murdor has definitely chosen his side in this election, and the polishing has begun in earnest.

    TomR will not be happy until all the media supports Labor. Labor already has the taxpayer funded ABC and Fairfax supporting them. But TomR want Murdoch as well. Lefties do not like criticism. I think lefties are natural totalitarians and will not be happy until they conquer the world.

  13. Tom R permalink
    May 3, 2016 1:36 pm

    I don’t know about budget night, but I gets the feeling election night is gonna be looooooooooooong for poor ol nil 🙂

  14. Tom R permalink
    May 3, 2016 1:52 pm

  15. Tom R permalink
    May 3, 2016 2:06 pm

  16. Tom R permalink
    May 3, 2016 2:14 pm

    Oh noes, it seems the libs used bs shrapnel to help them with their baccies claims of “black holes”, and are curently having it turned back on their faces, courtesy no less than from a pro smoking numpkin

    Budget 2016: Fresh tobacco forecasts puts cloud over government’s ‘budget black hole’ claim on Labor policy

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/federal-budget/fresh-tobacco-forecasts-puts-cloud-over-governments-budget-black-hole-claim-on-labor-policy-20160503-goktl0.html#ixzz47Yx81oPW
    Follow us: @smh on Twitter | sydneymorningherald on Facebook

  17. Walrus permalink
    May 3, 2016 3:40 pm

    “…and are curently having it turned back on their faces, courtesy no less than from a pro smoking numpkin…..”

    If you are going to ask the PBO pretty much the same question then dont be surprised if you get pretty much the same answer.

  18. May 3, 2016 4:56 pm

    Fun Flashbacks!

    Shadow treasurer Joe Hockey in 2013:

    “They (the RBA) are not cutting interest rates because the economy is doing well. Interest rates are being cut to 50-year lows because the economy is struggling.”

  19. May 3, 2016 5:45 pm

    I’ve got all the supplies except the scissors. Scissors and alcohol don’t mix well. As my mother used to say, “you could have someone’s eye out”.

  20. May 3, 2016 6:21 pm

    Some people think our economy is in trouble. I was talking to a friend in Venezuala today. They are experiencing hyper-inflation, rationing, shortages and blackouts.

    She told me food for her dogs 3 months ago cost 5,000 bolivares. Today the same amount of food costs 25,000 bolivares.Two weeks ago eggs were 1250 bs. Today 2,500 bs.

    She says there are shortages of food, medicine, tyres, spare parts, etc.She says everything there is imported. They don’t make anything that they could buy and sell in the same currency.There are blackouts daily.

    Some people are going to neighbouring countries where the can get paid in US dollars. Dollars have intrinsic value. Bolivares depreciate by the minute.

    I asked her if she had liked Hugo Chavez. She had not.

  21. May 3, 2016 6:46 pm

    I’ve got all my supplies too..

  22. May 3, 2016 6:50 pm

    A certain sub-set of Australian had liked Mr Chavez.

  23. May 3, 2016 6:51 pm

    Reb, that doesn’t seem enough. Aren’t you worried you may have undercatered?

  24. May 3, 2016 6:59 pm

    Good point. I’ll send out for more…

  25. May 3, 2016 7:06 pm

    There was a consensus among experts this morning: the Reserve Bank would keep interest rates on hold. They cut by 25 basis points to 1.75%.

    “It’s Difficult to Make Predictions, Especially About the Future”

  26. May 3, 2016 7:08 pm

    The rate cut fired up the share market with yield investors more likely to switch from cash to shares.

  27. May 3, 2016 7:14 pm

    Now, let us address so-called negative gearing.

    Individual investors must declare other income. Interest, dividends, rent etc. They can then deduct any expenses involved in earning that income. This is just basic common sense, or in politically correct language, it is fairness.

    To arbitrarily change this basic tenet of accounting and exclude just one asset class defies logic. It’s the politics of class warfare.

  28. May 3, 2016 7:16 pm

    *Individual taxpayers

  29. May 3, 2016 7:20 pm

    “”This is just basic common sense””

    I know you’re taking the piss. Have you already started drinking?

  30. May 3, 2016 7:23 pm

    Of course.

  31. May 3, 2016 7:26 pm

    🙂

  32. May 3, 2016 7:26 pm

    I’m getting excited…!

  33. May 3, 2016 7:28 pm

    I know. Just four minutes out from some of the greatest speechifying in history.

  34. May 3, 2016 7:31 pm

    I wonder if Barnaby’s gonna be sober?

  35. May 3, 2016 7:32 pm

    extraordinary time

  36. May 3, 2016 7:32 pm

    haha, no chance.

  37. May 3, 2016 7:32 pm

    This Budget is an economic plan, WTF else has it ever been??

  38. May 3, 2016 7:32 pm

    jobs and growth

  39. May 3, 2016 7:33 pm

    “ideas boom”

    boom boom

    *slurp

  40. May 3, 2016 7:34 pm

    “hard working Australians”

    Sip

  41. May 3, 2016 7:35 pm

    “ensure govt lives within its means”

    *shot

  42. May 3, 2016 7:36 pm

    “jobs and growth”

    *large swig

  43. May 3, 2016 7:36 pm

    “practical, targetted and responsible Economic Plan”

    Guzzle

  44. May 3, 2016 7:37 pm

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  45. May 3, 2016 7:37 pm

    “disciplined restraint”

    A new one!

    *shot and chaser

  46. May 3, 2016 7:38 pm

    “hard working Australians and their families”

    *refilling the glass

  47. May 3, 2016 7:38 pm

    “The budget – best viewed through a fishbowl of pinot”

    Or shiraz.

  48. May 3, 2016 7:40 pm

    What happened to mum and dad investors?

  49. May 3, 2016 7:41 pm

    small business got all the perks

  50. May 3, 2016 7:42 pm

    Looks like it.

  51. May 3, 2016 7:43 pm

    “not remove or limit negative gearing”

    There’s a surprise

  52. May 3, 2016 7:44 pm

    “We prefer to leave a dollar in your pocket than to take it for government”

    Too right!

    *Skol

  53. May 3, 2016 7:44 pm

    Morrison: Those earning less than $80,000 a year in taxable income make up two thirds of those who use negative gearing.

    #Alittlebitbullshit

  54. May 3, 2016 7:45 pm

    “diverted profits tax”

    What the?

  55. May 3, 2016 7:45 pm

    #Alittlebitbullshit

    😀

  56. May 3, 2016 7:46 pm

    I think I prefer “Shouty” Morrison, this guy’s an imposter.

  57. May 3, 2016 7:47 pm

    Fuck! They’re reducing the concessional cap for certain ages (mine) from $35,000 to $25,000. CUNTS!

  58. May 3, 2016 7:48 pm

    “this guy’s an imposter”.

    That’s prime-time Scotty right there.

  59. May 3, 2016 7:48 pm

    There’s some disquiet in the house.

  60. May 3, 2016 7:50 pm

    Who wrote this so-called “speech” an accountant?

  61. May 3, 2016 7:50 pm

    Smokers Tax!

    (I thought that was a hit on the poor.)

  62. May 3, 2016 7:50 pm

    Walter.

  63. May 3, 2016 7:52 pm

    “Innovation and skills technology.”

    Words with no meaning.

    Oops. better take a drink. Getting dry.

  64. May 3, 2016 7:52 pm

    Has he mentioned health or education yet? No didn’t think so.

  65. May 3, 2016 7:53 pm

    Very slow train, dams, pipelines. The North!

    Gulp

  66. May 3, 2016 7:53 pm

    Looks like Julie’s acid trip is kicking in.

  67. May 3, 2016 7:54 pm

    PATH: prepare, trial and hire. What about the A?

    Sip.

  68. May 3, 2016 7:55 pm

    LOLOL

  69. May 3, 2016 7:55 pm

    “”What about the A?””

    🙂

  70. May 3, 2016 7:55 pm

    He’s blocking one of the nodding blondes.

  71. May 3, 2016 7:56 pm

    Barkeep, another scotch. And leave the bottle.

  72. May 3, 2016 7:57 pm

    The other blond and Prissie have been sharing the same fake tan.

  73. May 3, 2016 7:58 pm

    I think education has been allocated 50 bajillion Gonski dollaros already.

  74. May 3, 2016 7:58 pm

    Heehee. You are correct.

  75. May 3, 2016 7:59 pm

    “upbeat and optimistic”

    That deserves a double.

  76. May 3, 2016 8:00 pm

    Jobs and growth..

    *Skol

  77. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2016 8:01 pm

    Jobs and Growth!

    You should all be pissed out of yer brains by now!

  78. May 3, 2016 8:01 pm

    “Jobs and growth”

    He said that 30 times at least. My liver blocked out that phrase.

  79. May 3, 2016 8:01 pm

    It’s not the same when he’s not shouting *sigh*

  80. May 3, 2016 8:02 pm

    Where were you TB?

    You have a lot of “catching up” to do.

  81. May 3, 2016 8:02 pm

    He did say growth and jobs right at the end, Credit where it’s due.

  82. May 3, 2016 8:03 pm

    The Budget Lockup looked like a giggle. *eyeroll*

  83. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2016 8:05 pm

    Let’s just say I had an extremely good night on SATURDAY! And I am banned from even smelling grog ’til Friday … a terrible punishment – but one I shall take with dignity …

  84. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2016 8:06 pm

    That monkey looks almost human!

  85. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2016 8:07 pm

    And where is that fkn A in PATH what a bunch of stupids!

  86. In_the_sticks permalink
    May 3, 2016 8:24 pm

    Looks like Ricky Muir is a Guttertrash fan too

  87. May 3, 2016 8:27 pm

    “Looks like Ricky Muir is a Guttertrash fan too”

    I knew there would be at least one intellectual reader. Does he have many followers?

  88. May 3, 2016 8:29 pm

    About 6.000 hoons motorists. Just looked it up.

  89. On The Rocks permalink
    May 3, 2016 8:44 pm

    (“Now, after the Cube, I still don’t have any plans to make anything like it.” – Erno Rubik)

  90. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 3, 2016 9:24 pm

  91. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 3, 2016 9:28 pm

    ooh, hello toiletboss

    So nice to see you. You’ve been away far too long!

    I knew there would be at least one intellectual reader. Does he have many followers?

    I know I’m one of them 😉

  92. May 3, 2016 9:32 pm

    Tolietboss!! 🙂

  93. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 3, 2016 9:36 pm

  94. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 3, 2016 10:08 pm

    Budget 2016: Why the super crackdown could add fuel to the housing affordability fire
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/federal-budget/budget-2016-super-and-negative-gearing-20160503-golfbm.html#ixzz47arefGmE

    …A crackdown on superannuation tax concessions for the rich, coupled with a budget day cut to interest rates, could increase the flow of funds into negatively geared investment property.
    Ahead of the 2016-2017 federal budget announcement, two of the country’s leading actuaries, Rice Warner chief executive Michael Rice and Mercer senior actuarial partner David Knox, warned that any crackdown on super tax concessions for the rich without any changes to the negative gearing rules could have the unintended consequence of pushing more money into property…

  95. May 3, 2016 11:16 pm

    tb

    😯

  96. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 4, 2016 12:01 am

  97. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 4, 2016 12:06 am

  98. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 4, 2016 1:44 am

    Funny.

    stop the boats build a wall

  99. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 4, 2016 1:51 am

    Hi HD

  100. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2016 7:36 am

    wow, $4/hr jobs “growth”, tax relief for the 1% while kicking the poorer harder.

    As hard as it is to comprehend, this is worst than the 2014 budget.

    Why are they fighting so hard to get Labor elected? Do they know something we don’t?

  101. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2016 7:46 am

    😆

    😯

  102. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2016 9:47 am

    G’day, toylet!

    The Prodigal Son! Noice to see ya!

  103. Walrus permalink
    May 4, 2016 9:56 am

    “Why are they fighting so hard to get Labor elected? Do they know something we don’t?”

    I agree

    I cannot believe how hard they have gone on people saving for a moderate income retirement. Restricting after tax contributions to a $500K limit (fucking well back dated to 1 July 2007) is going to significantly affect those looking to down size (or inherit) especially where there is say a 3 to 5 year difference in ages of partners where there is one plus the reduction of the $35K for over 50s and $30K caps for under 50s is just so fucking shortsighted its beggars belief.

    How many fucking times are these caps going to be changed.

  104. Walrus permalink
    May 4, 2016 9:58 am

    Tax people reasonably on the way out not on the way in

  105. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 4, 2016 10:09 am

  106. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2016 10:34 am

    Clive Palmer not contesting seat!

    Go Clivey! Thank you!

  107. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2016 10:48 am

    How many fucking times are these caps going to be changed.
    Depends how many times #TeamShorten rope the dopes in.

    I have seen much about this budget being a “checklist” budget. I haven’t seen much in the way of acknowledging that the checklist is largely the items Labor has brought into play.

  108. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2016 10:53 am

    It appears Nick Ross is getting mightily fed up (rightly so) with his treatment from theirabc

  109. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 4, 2016 10:54 am

    Scott Bridges has the budget arights. We all feel a bit that way sometimes.

  110. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2016 11:07 am

    But this budget? it doesn’t undo any of the cruel 2014 stuff but it doesn’t really do anything else either.

    FirstDog has it right, again. It struck me when morriscum said wtte “the poor got given stuff earlier, so they get nothing now”

    Well, by all measures, the “poor” got sweet fa from the past two budgets, so I’m not sure what he is talking about. Yes, he is talking about Carbon Price measures specifically, but, the budget, as a whole, did nothing for the lower socioeconomic, in fact, it hurt them (or tried to)

  111. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2016 11:11 am

  112. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2016 11:13 am

    Must be a good budget, wally’s pissed off … ~(:-)))

  113. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2016 11:24 am

    wally’s pissed off

    How can you tell?

  114. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 4, 2016 11:53 am

  115. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2016 11:53 am

    LOL! 😀

  116. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2016 11:57 am

    Last @ TR … KL’s comment re NBN certainly ain’t funny!

  117. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2016 12:02 pm

    LOL!

    That’s not how you spell SOB :sob:

    So, we not only have a Ford Anglier NoBN for the same cost of the Rolls Royce, we also have found out we can’t afford it?

    Now that IS agile.

    It also appears that growth (which this/last month was at 1.5%) is going to be 4.5% next year.

    Do Treasury even believe their figures anymore, or is it simply a case of “his masters voice”?

  118. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2016 12:08 pm

    Last @ TR … KL’s comment re NBN certainly ain’t funny!

    whew

  119. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 4, 2016 12:13 pm

    “FirstDog has it right, again.” = First Dog has a leftist viewpoint, again.

  120. Walrus permalink
    May 4, 2016 12:14 pm

    This is a welcome change……………

    “…….from July 1, the government will make it cheaper to produce deer velvet in Australia. It will stop charging an excise levy on the production and sale of deer velvet, and will also remove the charge on exports of deer velvet and the customs charge on live deer exports. Looks like there will be more Aussie deer heading overseas.”

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/federal-budget/federal-budget-2016-you-wont-believe-what-theyve-cut-and-spent/news-story/ab7b192c8f463714c075bc47c1c42385

  121. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 4, 2016 12:22 pm

    I do not think yesterdays interest rate cut is good for the country. It will just get people to put more money into investment properties.

    Apparently Stephens is on $1M/year. I wonder what he does to deserve that.

  122. May 4, 2016 12:33 pm

    “the government will make it cheaper to produce deer velvet”

    They’re pandering to Big Venison.

  123. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 4, 2016 12:33 pm

    Apparently that stupid gapeseed Neil is allowed to breathe oxygen. The sooner this unwarranted privilege is terminated the better the world will be.

  124. Walrus permalink
    May 4, 2016 12:45 pm

    “They’re pandering to Big Venison.”

    Well their not pandering to the population upwards of 40 y/o saving for retirement.

    I cant believe that people already on transition to retirement pensions are being whacked.

  125. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2016 1:08 pm

    “FirstDog has it right, again.” = First Dog has a leftist viewpoint, again.

    Sense of humour = ?

    Looks like there will be more Aussie deer heading overseas.”

    Very punny! Deer “heading” … BTW, don’t the Chinese use velvet for medicines or something? Must be a trade agreement agreement …

    more money into investment properties.

    You obviously don’t follow the share market … 🙂

    I cant believe that people already on transition to retirement pensions are being whacked.

    They’re not doing it to everyone, wally, just the rich pricks … I’m happy with that … you could invest in a solar system … 🙂

  126. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2016 1:26 pm

    just the rich pricks

    I did read an article this morning that claimed this will just send them into an already distorted the housing market.

    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/credit-suisse-the-budget-is-bad-for-the-share-market-2016-5

  127. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 4, 2016 1:27 pm

    pparently that stupid gapeseed Neil is allowed to breathe oxygen. The sooner this unwarranted privilege is terminated the better the world will be.

    What did i say to deserve that comment? Obviously SB has leftists tendencies. People are not allowed to have an opinion.

    And i do not think yesterdays interest rate cut is good for Australia. It just adds more fuel to property prices. It would be better for Australia if people put their spare cash somewhere else other than in property.

  128. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2016 1:46 pm

    It would be better for Australia if people put their spare cash somewhere else other than in property.

    That’s IF they have “spare” cash, that is.

  129. Walrus permalink
    May 4, 2016 1:58 pm

    “I did read an article this morning that claimed this will just send them into an already distorted the housing market. ”

    It is now more attractive to use NG for all asset classes other than Cash of course.

  130. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 4, 2016 2:11 pm

    It is now more attractive to use NG for all asset classes other than Cash of course.

    Then why did the Reserve Bank drop interest rates yesterday?

  131. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2016 3:12 pm

    It is now more attractive to use NG for all asset classes other than Cash of course.

    I’m sure all those young families looking to buy their first home will appreciate that 😉

  132. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 4, 2016 4:22 pm

  133. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2016 5:21 pm

    Out of 224 members of Parliament 97 have properties other than their home … this does not include ownership by other family members … or holiday accommodation …

    No to Negative Gearing – I wonder why!

  134. Walrus permalink
    May 4, 2016 5:34 pm

    Australian Financial Review today, ……..columnist Philip Baker said…

    “The hunt for yield just got really serious… any stocks with a decent dividend will be very hard for local investors to ignore now the cash rate has been lowered for the first time in a year.

    Changes to superannuation concessions announced in the federal budget will also make property and the sharemarket a compelling investment…”

  135. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2016 6:07 pm

    What an ignorant, arrogant, out of touch prick, MALfunction TurnAbbott, has proven to be …

    The radio announcer sounds fkn dopey too …

    Malcolm Turnbull has defended his record of paying tax and recommended a Melbourne radio host “shell out” for his children to buy a house if he was worried they could not enter the property market.

    On ABC radio on Wednesday, Jon Faine asked Turnbull whether his refusal to touch negative gearing was creating generational conflict, with young people resenting the difficulty of entering the housing market.

    “They’re saying: ‘For goodness sake, you baby boomers want everything and you’re locking us out,’” Faine said. Turnbull asked if Faine’s children were locked out of the market, and he said they were.

    “Well you should shell out for them – you should support them, a wealthy man like you,” Turnbull said.

    Faine chuckled and said: “That’s what they say!”

    “Well exactly. There you go – you’ve got the solution in your own hands,” Turnbull replied. “You can provide a bit of intergenerational equity in the Faine family.”

    The comments made light of criticisms that negative gearing and capital gains tax arrangements disproportionately benefit wealthy people.

    And then to add to the “everybody’s a fkn dill” replies …

    The prime minister said Labor’s mooted negative gearing changes were not a battle between generations but rather a choice between “jobs and growth and standing in the way of enterprise”.

    On the fairness of leaving negative gearing untouched, Turnbull said it was “very much an investment approach that’s taken by middle Australia, by millions of people”.

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/may/04/malcolm-turnbull-defends-his-personal-tax-record-and-negative-gearing-policy

    WE KNOW its not a battle between generations … its a battle between RICH and POOR … and its not middle Australia benefitting the most … its the rich pricks like TurnAbbott who owns EIGHT PROPERTIES!

  136. May 4, 2016 6:23 pm

    ” its the rich pricks like TurnAbbott who owns EIGHT PROPERTIES!”

    So? Unless your claiming he acquired them illegally, what’s your problem? Would you prefer he sold them and put the money – where? – into some DiNatale recommended windmill project? Or is your problem that he is rich? (Disclaimer: I don’t like Turnbull, but not because he’s a “rich prick”.)

  137. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 4, 2016 6:26 pm

    What an ignorant, arrogant, out of touch prick, MALfunction TurnAbbott, has proven to be

    The difference between the Coalition and Labor on this topic is as usual the Coalition is more honest, Labor may say they will do something and may indeed do something but it will make no difference.

    But as usual it will sooth the conscience of loyal ALP supporters that even though Labor is useless they at least thought about doing something

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/how-property-investing-politicians-have-skin-in-the-game-on-the-negative-gearing-debate-20150326-1m8s36.html

    The Greens own 16 properties. Number of properties for Coalition is 2.7 and for Labor is 2 per person

  138. May 4, 2016 6:27 pm

    By the way, home loan interest rates are about to be the lowest ever, which may have been Neil’s point: this can only put upward pressure on housing prices. So unfair!

  139. May 4, 2016 6:55 pm

    Donald Trump is the presumptive Republican candidate. Hillary should win the Dems candidature, but who knows. Bernie Sanders just trounced her in Indiana. Either way, the next POTUS will be a caricature of … something.

  140. May 4, 2016 7:20 pm

    “”So? Unless your claiming he acquired them illegally, what’s your problem? “”

    It’s that sense of empathy for those less fortunate that’s always so endearing about tory supporters.

  141. May 4, 2016 7:28 pm

    “It’s that sense of empathy for those less fortunate that’s always so endearing about tory supporters”

    I know. It’s much better to say how good you are.

  142. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 4, 2016 7:44 pm

    Either way, the next POTUS will be a caricature of … something.

    Go bernie!

    haha 😆

    What cormann hasn’t stated is the jobs & growth will take decades to achieve, it is very much a long term strategy.

  143. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2016 10:10 pm

    (Disclaimer: I don’t like Turnbull, but not because he’s a “rich prick”.)

    Because he thinks he’s better than anyone else and he’s just a smarmy, long winded Dickhead … making decisions for people who he has no respect for, and certainly no understanding of … or how they live – survive …

    Money does not make you smart – it does make living easier tho’ …

    Whatever these dicks do I’m pretty well covered … but I’ve been down to my last dollar, with a mortgage, two kids and no job … in fact I mowed over the $1 note and I have it laminated in a frame in my study …

    I don’t GAFF how many houses MALfunction has b ut I object to him and others in POWER slurping at the trough of other taxpayer’s efforts who are far worse off than they are … greed is greed …

  144. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2016 10:12 pm

    Jobs and Growth – legalising vacuum economics … nothing trickling down …

  145. Tom R permalink
    May 5, 2016 7:09 am

    So? Unless your claiming he acquired them illegally, what’s your problem?

    Wow, talk about Strawman. It’s nothing to do with illegality. It has nothing to do with him being rich. It has everything to do with taxpayer dollars being given to already rich people which does nothing but help that rich person get richer, and gives them an advantage over somebody else who is trying to buy their first house.

    It SHOULD be illegal. It is at the very least immoral.

    Number of properties for Coalition is 2.7 and for Labor is 2 per person

    You miss the elephant in the room … again. Labor are moving to fix the problem.

    I also hear rumours of a “ten year plan” mentioned in the bludget yesterday, but they forgot the ten year funding bit 😯

  146. May 5, 2016 7:32 am

    “”they forgot the ten year funding bit””

    Yeah, funny that. But even if they had fully costed it, they would’ve just abandoned after being re-elected anyway. You know “changing circumstances” and all that…

  147. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2016 7:34 am

    You miss the elephant in the room … again. Labor are moving to fix the problem.

    Didn’t you read my post? Labor will huff and puff and then do nothing. According to the link one Coalition guy has 40 properties. take away the outliers and the 2.7 versus 2.0 homes per person for the two major parties would become much closer. I think the days of Labor MPs being from the working class are over.

  148. May 5, 2016 8:17 am

    “It SHOULD be illegal.”

    A completely different argument. Currently it’s perfectly legal.

    “It is at the very least immoral.”

    Just as well we have the rule of law, then, and not the rule of someone’s version of morality.

  149. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 5, 2016 8:52 am

    …Apparently that stupid gapeseed Neil is allowed to breathe oxygen. The sooner this unwarranted privilege is terminated the better the world will be…

    Yes. I blame neil for toiletboss leaving our community. He must tick the box to get an email every time some of us make a comment. I noticed that every time toiletboss logged on, neil would immediately stalk him with his inane, mindless and repetitive drivel. In the end, toiletboss just got sick and tired of it. he got into neil a couple of times, but it made no difference, neil is shameless and brainless, he continued stalking toiletboss with his gormless nonsense. And he’s proud of it!

    Just as well we have the rule of law, then, and not the rule of someone’s version of morality.

    How come the religious lobby expect [and get] their version of morality to be the rule of law?

    We have a property based rule of law, the social and moral legislation is meant to keep the rapacious greed of corporations in check, obviously it is not working.

    We citizens have the right to be consumers [whether we want to or not] and that is all that we get in a capital system.

    toiletboss has been sighted!

  150. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 5, 2016 8:57 am

    How the ‘rule of law’ works.

    …Tony Abbott, who has been quiet of late, made a speech last night that contained an observation that you could either characterise as incredibly naive, or laying bare the grimly transactional character of modern politics.

    Abbott was paying tribute to the sterling qualities of the former resources minister Ian Macfarlane, who is retiring at this election. Macfarlane while in government had swept away Labor’s mining tax, “a job-destroying, investment-killing tax, which didn’t raise any revenue”. (I know a tax can’t simultaneously destroy an industry and have no impact on an industry but let’s move past that, because logical inconsistency is not our problem.)

    It was a magnificent achievement by the [member] for Groom in his time as minister … and I hope the sector will acknowledge and demonstrate their gratitude to him in his years of retirement from this place.
    I know you might need a minute to let that sink in, so I’ll give you a few seconds to read back over that statement.

    Just in case your mind still blocks the meaning of that sentence let me decode: Abbott (a former prime minister, not some loose-lipped neophyte) is saying now the resources minister has been so kind to give the mining sector a big commercial benefit, now the sector should look after him.

    Now you might say to me isn’t that how politics works? Isn’t this just a statement of the obvious? I would say to you that statement is nothing we should be complacent about, or just lapse into cynicism about – it’s dropping the mask moment that should make us all ropably angry.

    In that rubric, public policy making is not about public interest, it’s about transactions, appeasing sectional interests. It’s about delivering for your mates (who happen to donate to the Liberal party), then having your mates look out for you. Meanwhile the public look on powerless, at the bottom of the decision-making pile.

    That glancing statement from Abbott doesn’t make me cynical, it doesn’t confirm my biases, it doesn’t make me shrug my shoulders lightly and move on, it spurs me again to say the comfy and relaxed disposition sitting behind this observation from Abbott is appalling, and it has to change…

  151. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 5, 2016 9:14 am

    Unfortunately, labor is as neoliberal as the libs, we’re screwed by the zombie economics of both sides.

  152. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 5, 2016 9:33 am

    Aged care is already woefully underfunded. Don’t people care about the elderly anymore? Is this the society we have become, investment properties for the wealthy and negligence and abuse of the vulnerable elderly?

    Don’t forget the IPA and the other front groups for business interests. These are all taxpayer funded, so-called ‘charities’

  153. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2016 10:05 am

    I have a gut feeling that while the “intern” program seems to be a good concept, the application of it is wide open for rorting … and serious problems …

  154. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 5, 2016 11:01 am

    …Abbott: it gets worse: Gabrielle Chan

    While we are all still digesting Tony Abbott’s comments on Ian Macfarlane, there was a little nugget from his speech that we haven’t yet covered.

    Abbott in the adjournment debate was also singing the praises of the integrity of retiring Liberal senator Bill Heffernan as “the only member of this parliament I have ever met who never sought promotion”.

    Abbott then moved to a personal anecdote. The former prime minister told the parliament that as a “relatively new member of parliament”, he was invited to drinks by a well-known millionaire.

    As I was leaving he gave me an envelope and said, ‘That’s your Christmas present. When I opened it up it contained $5,000 in cash. I can tell you, the Abbott family in those days could have used that money, but it did not feel right. I rang Bill Heffernan for his advice and he said: ‘Once bought, always bought. Give it back and say to that person, “Please write out a cheque for the campaign.’

    There are two things about this story.

    The first is the spectre of politicians being offered envelopes full of cash. What for? We don’t know. But remember he is talking about an experience at the beginning of this career. Not at it’s height.

    The other is that while the cash was rejected, the “softer path” is to make a donation as a party donation. That is, the knowledge of an potential expectation tied to a specific member can be attached to a particular apparently generic donation made out to a political party.

    If you want to feel just a bit sick, think about that…

  155. Tom R permalink
    May 5, 2016 11:36 am

    A completely different argument.

    You started it

  156. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 5, 2016 11:40 am

    Doesn’t this sound a lot like Turnbull’s plans for a compulsory slave labour workforce at $4.00/hr?

    Cameron’s government rocked by major defeat just days before election time:
    http://www.thecanary.co/2016/04/29/cameron-rocked-by-major-defeat-just-days-before-election-time/

    …Workfare was ruled illegal in 2013. But instead of complying with the orders of the court, the government has continued to appeal the decision – suffering defeat after defeat. And now, the highest court in the land has told Cameron’s government that its workfare schemes are illegal, and they must pay back benefit claimants who were forced into these unlawful programmes…

    …Firstly, as a society, we have agreed that forced labour is against the law. Article 4 of the European Convention of Human Rights clearly states – No one shall be required to perform forced or compulsory labour. If the government threatens to withdraw a person’s sole lifeline unless they supply their labour, then it can clearly be argued that this labour has been obtained forcibly. The labour is also clearly compulsory.

    Secondly, it creates state-subsidised forced labour for private companies. It is completely unconscionable to many, that whilst the government is taking a chainsaw to the welfare state on the stated grounds of ‘austerity’– it chooses to use taxpayers’ money to fund forced labour for private corporations…

    …Thirdly, it entirely subverts the minimum wage. We agreed as a society that we needed a minimum wage in order to provide a balance between a corporation’s rational ambition to reduce its labour costs and a workers need to gain a fair, living wage. This policy not only allows corporations to avoid paying a minimum wage, but any wage at all…

  157. Tom R permalink
    May 5, 2016 11:59 am

    Look like another lib Treasurer is putting us further into Structural Defect

    The Australian Financial Review has been told the cost of the government’s company tax cut plans over 10 years is close to $50 billion but the government is steadfastly refusing to say anything publicly.

    Read more: http://www.afr.com/news/politics/election/election-2016-scott-morrison-steps-up-high-tax-attack-on-labor-20160504-gommwl#ixzz47k7rdcI2
    Follow us: @FinancialReview on Twitter | financialreview on Facebook

    They crapped on for the last 3 years that Labor hadn’t funded Gonski etal, even though they had, but now, on the eve of a losing election, AGAIN load the books with further debt. Has Costello been helping them out with this bludget?

  158. Tom R permalink
    May 5, 2016 12:04 pm

    Doesn’t this sound a lot like Turnbull’s plans for a compulsory slave labour workforce at $4.00/hr?

    So, anything good in the bludget, they stole from Labor, and everything bad (and there is a lot of that) is stolen from other right wing loons.

    Is there ANYTHING here they thought up themselves? And some muppets think this is a great way to Govern

  159. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2016 12:22 pm

    Look like another lib Treasurer is putting us further into Structural Defect

    It is comments like that which reaffirms my belief in Labor supporters. Totally deceitful.

    Costello ran 9 surplus budgets out of 11. So lefties spend time on how to trash Costello. So they bring up this concept nobody knows much about. But lefties say Costello ran structural deficits and everybody believes it.

    There were no structural deficits under Costello.

  160. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 5, 2016 12:28 pm

    So, anything good in the bludget, they stole from Labor, and everything bad (and there is a lot of that) is stolen from other right wing loons.

    Yes, they copy the cons a lot.
    I would suggest the only reason they get away with slave labour for corporations here is our lack of a bill of rights. Ever wondered why the pollies are so dead set against a BoR here?

    another steal

  161. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 5, 2016 12:36 pm

    There were no structural deficits under Costello.

    Don’t fkn lie

    Howard & Costello left a huge structural deficit, remember all that upper/middle class welfare? Right at the start of a GFC too. Grossly negligent behaviour of a government and completely forgetting a duty of care to the nation.

    http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2013/05/the-secret-of-the-howard-governments-surpluses/

    …From the structural balance’s biggest surplus in 2002-03 to its biggest deficit in 2011-12, the structural level of revenue fell by about five percentage points of GDP, while the structural level of spending rose by about one percentage point…

    The budget office says more than two-thirds of the initial five percentage point decline in structural revenue was caused by the cumulative effect of the six tax cuts in a row delivered or promised by Costello… A further quarter of the five points, the office tells us, results from a decline in excise receipts, caused [mainly] by Costello’s decision to end the indexation of petrol excise in the 2001…

    The Libs keep saying the problem is Labor’s unrestrained spending but, in fact, it’s almost all on the tax side. The tax weakness arises overwhelmingly from Costello’s eight delivered or promised tax cuts.

    As you can see, household debt levels literally exploded during the 11 years that Howard/Costello Government was in power. This extra demand (spending) by the household sector meant that the Federal Government was able to run bigger surpluses, without adversely affecting overall demand in the economy (see next chart)…

  162. Tom R permalink
    May 5, 2016 12:42 pm

    There were no structural deficits under Costello.

    You are slow nil. Even the lolstralian agrees

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/treasury/decade-of-tax-cuts-blamed-for-australias-severe-structural-deficit/story-fn59nsif-1226648141748

  163. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2016 1:00 pm

    Howard & Costello left a huge structural deficit

    No they did not. This structrural deficit crap was introduced by evil people to try and trash Costello. Treasury has had several goes at measuring this concept and comes up with a different result every time. This from AO’s link.

    Using the mid-point of estimates from the OECD and IMF] the budget began the noughties in structural surplus, but then the structural balance declined steadily between 2002-03 and 2011-12, from a surplus equivalent to about 2.5 per cent of nominal gross domestic product to a structurally balanced budget in 2007, before falling to a structural deficit of about 3.75 per cent of GDP in 2011-12…

    Itis not possible to accurately a SD but AO’s link said the budget was in structural balance in 2007. It did not go into SD territory until Rudd/Gillard.

    Supposedly this SD crap was caused by Costello tax cuts. Swan gave tax cuts in all his budgets but for some reason he gets no blame even though they took their tax policy to the 2007 election and everybody voted for it.

    Also some lefties say Costello taxed too much and some say he taxed too little. Which is it?

  164. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 5, 2016 1:02 pm

    No they did not. This structrural deficit crap was introduced by evil people to try and trash Costello.

    dickhead tosser.

  165. Tom R permalink
    May 5, 2016 1:19 pm

    Right at the start of a GFC too.

    You beat me to it AO 😉

  166. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 5, 2016 1:25 pm

    They all appear to be in damage control mode, some frantic <strike.pedalling peddling from the coalition.

    The bolter too!

    Turnbull in a tangle: up is down, costed is not
    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/

    …This precis does not do justice to the full train wreck caused by David Speers’ simple question: “How much does it cost?”:

    Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has told Sky News the government’s plan to cut company tax is ‘clearly affordable’ but has not named a specific cost.

    ‘Treasury has not identified the dollar cost of that particular item – what it has done is set out a medium term outlook which takes account of the company tax cut and all the other tax arrangements,” Mr Turnbull said.

    The company tax rate will be cut to 25 per cent over the next ten years, but outside of a noted cost of just under $5 billion over the forward estimates it is unclear what the plan will cost over the decade.

    Asked if a projected cost of $55 billion was accurate, Mr Turnbull initially said it ‘may well be right’ before saying it ‘may or may not be correct’ when pressed.

    In fact, Turnbull:
    – first claimed the cost had not been modelled by Treasury, and then said it had.

    – said Speer’s question on the cost of the cut was answered on a page of the Budget that actually referred only to the claimed surplus by 2011.

    – seemed to confirm a cost estimate of $55 billion and then backed away.

    – had no clue and ummed and aahed.

    Elsewhere in the interview Turnbull claimed he was cutting taxes in the Budget and that tax receipts as a percentage of the economy was falling.

    He insisted this was true even when Speers told him a couple of times the Budget papers proved him wrong. And so they do:

    …Incredible. How could a Liberal Prime Minister not know that he is raising the tax burden, not cutting it?

    Watch the full disaster here.

    Treasurer Scott Morrison, ringing in to 3AW’s Neil Mitchell later to clear it up, just made it worse. He, too, refused to say what the business tax cut would cost…

  167. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 5, 2016 1:46 pm

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/federal-budget/budget-2016-live-from-parliament-house-20160504-gomnsc.html#ixzz47kVWnW6o

    😆

    …Mr Turnbull’s interview this morning “was not a train wreck,” Michael writes, “but it went as close as you can to having one without an ambulance being called”…

    comments on that site are definitely not pretty.

  168. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2016 2:00 pm

    dickhead tosser.

    No i am correct. This structural deficit crap was only introduced to trash Costello. When it was first published the SD ocurred several years before Howard lost office lefties said. Then Treasury had other goes and now the SD occurs just before the GFC when Labor was in power and it was in structural balance when Howard lost office according to Leith van Onselen. If they had another go they would get a different result.

    Also Leith van Onselen is a liar. he said this

    While the inexorable rise in commodity prices under Howard/Costello’s reign and the unwind under Labor’s watch has been well documented,

    This is an easily verifiable falsehood.

    http://www.rba.gov.au/chart-pack/commodity-prices.html

    Commodity prices did not start to rise until 2004 and then exploded under Rudd/Gillard.The biggest boom in history happened under Labor. Prices are still higher then from 1996-2004 and we stillhave boom prices just not as high as under Labor

  169. May 5, 2016 2:04 pm

    Turnbull deserves to lose this election. The self-proclaimed ‘great communicator’ is just a dithering, waffling fuckwit with no plan, and no idea. And that’s on a good day.

  170. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2016 2:10 pm

    Turnbull deserves to lose this election. The self-proclaimed ‘great communicator’ is just a dithering, waffling fuckwit with no plan, and no idea. And that’s on a good day.

    I tend to agreewith that. I atcually do not know what i will do on election day. I could never vote Labor. Turnbull loves himself more than he loves the country and is Howards biggest mistake. I think Turnbull may have made a good Treasurer. Abbott should have got rid of him or made him Treasurer.

  171. Growth And Tonic permalink
    May 5, 2016 2:12 pm

    (That’s IF they have “spare” cash, that is.

    Erm, there’s almost always plenty of spare cash available to the suitably-qualified, for a price. And, I was almost led to believe that’s a virtue of the investor-oriented growth presaged in the Budgeteer’s quietly-confident, cautiously-brave new economy: living within our means explicitly means enhanced private dissavings and burgeoning private debt loadings, with rapid public revenue write-offs, to stimulate the kind of on-paper productivity gains essential to realising fiscal consolidation’s harmonisations with world-class monetary policies, and vice versa.

    Also some lefties say Costello taxed too much and some say he taxed too little. Which is it?

    Both. Manipulating the velocity and volume of money resulted in Pineapple Pete taking credit for being the best credit card skimmer in the world for over a decade, an entrenched structural deficit, the economy overheating, a latent property bubble (one which the RBA continues to express strong concerns about), higher exposure to a Credit Crunch, and internal and external (forget about the original debt truck, left idling since ’96) debt overhangs .

    Libs refusing to reveal huge cost of 25% company tax rate because the revenue hole it creates can only be filled by a higher GST

    Back to the glorious Costello days of double-skimming the credit cards, with added interest, ‘ey?)

  172. Tom R permalink
    May 5, 2016 2:31 pm

    and vice versa.

    You make it all sound so simple (I’m off for a tonic or two soon I reckon)

  173. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2016 2:35 pm

    Both

    Well f true which it is not why didn’t Swan fix the problem? By the way what do you think of this statement by Swan from his very last budget?

    http://www.budget.gov.au/2013-14/content/overview/html/overview_41.htm

    The Government has delivered $47 billion of tax cuts in our first four years since coming to office. In addition, we have provided further tax cuts as assistance for the cost of living impact of the carbon price from 2012‑13. Even after accounting for the small increase in the Medicare levy in 2014‑15 we will be delivering total tax cuts of around $20 billion a year over the next four years compared to the 2007‑08 tax scales.

    He even provides a column (the last one)which shows how much better his tax cuts were compared to Costello’s

  174. Tom R permalink
    May 5, 2016 2:49 pm

    Well f true which it is not why didn’t Swan fix the problem?

    Do you recall the GFC at all nil?

    Do you accept it as a ‘thing’?

  175. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2016 2:51 pm

    The GFC finished years before Swan lost office. Why didn’t Swan say after the 2010election we are putting the income tax scale up?

  176. Tom R permalink
    May 5, 2016 2:55 pm

    pwned

  177. Tom R permalink
    May 5, 2016 2:58 pm

    The GFC finished years before Swan lost office.

    So, I’ll take that as a “didn’t really accept the GFC as a ‘thing’ ” 😉

  178. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2016 3:27 pm

    So, I’ll take that as a “didn’t really accept the GFC as a ‘thing

    Well then stop blaming budget problems on the Costello income tax cuts which SWan had 6 years to increase.

    In fact the 6 years of tax cuts Swan gave were not Costello tax cuts. They were cuts Labor took to the 2007 election and then Swan in his very last budget bragged about

  179. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 5, 2016 3:34 pm

    If you think this is an incoherent mess, imagine if it was an Abbott and Hockey production. We’ve got Delcons to the right of us, ShortCons to the left and here we are stuck in the middle with Malcolm (as Mr Blonde).

  180. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2016 4:31 pm

    The fact is there needs to be massive spending cuts to get the budget back into surplus. Howard had the courage to do that in his first budget in 1996 and caused a Parliament House riot. But it got the budget back into surplus which never would have happened otherwise.

    Nobody in the current lot has the courage to do that. The voting public does not help. Most Labor voters want stuff and do not care about the country.

  181. Tom R permalink
    May 5, 2016 4:39 pm

    here we are stuck in the middle with Malcolm (as Mr Blonde).

    The voters being the cop?

  182. May 5, 2016 4:49 pm

    Why can’t we pick our own colors?

  183. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2016 5:09 pm

    … incredible. How could a Liberal Prime Minister not know that he is raising the tax burden, not cutting it?

    Because he’s not as clever as he thinks he is … as many others are now discovering … and we’re not as dumb as he thought we were …

    He waffles … in areas such as economics, science, engineering and education/training waffling demonstrates one thing – they don’t know what they are talking about … find a Keating interview on YouTube and see the difference!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The fact is there needs to be massive spending cuts to get the budget back into surplus.

    Where should those cuts be made, neel?

  184. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 5, 2016 5:35 pm

    “The voters being the cop?”

    ‘Ear. ‘Ear.

    We are bound up and helpless as the psychopath, having attained a position of power, wields it almost for his own amusement and certainly not in any responsible way. He is looking more unhinged by the minute. In fact I’m not sure Abbott and Hockey could have done much worse.

  185. Tom R permalink
    May 5, 2016 6:10 pm

    and we’re not as dumb as he thought we were

    i think that is the most plausible answer.

    He’s not stupid, you don’t get that successful by being dumb.

    BUT, you CAN get that successful taking advantage OF those that are dumb.

    Why can’t we pick our own colors?

    It doesn’t matter the coloUr, as long as you know ……..

  186. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2016 6:11 pm

    The French, the British, the Yanks, the Russians, the Germans et al … all got pissed off with the Robber Barons in their history at one stage … a heady time for some!

    Maybe its back again …

    Tumbrils are well greased … edge is quite sharpish!

    Plenty of “jobs” available … -(:()>

  187. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2016 6:13 pm

    What an exciting time to be a Robber Baron!

  188. IvImmm permalink
    May 5, 2016 6:14 pm

    (Just say FU to the neoliberals

    Err, no, and, no, again?

    ———————

    Just as well we have the rule of law, then, and not the rule of someone’s version of morality.

    Too right!

    ———————

    toiletboss has been sighted!

    That he has; and, as is usual with absented friends, we often continue to wish him and his well, his once-mentioned erratic hardware better, and recapitulation of the familiar demands of high-schooling all the best.)

  189. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2016 6:14 pm

    When the RWNJ become shrill you’ve hit the mark … when they become silent they are really in the shite!

    Emperor MALfuction has been revealed … no clothes …

  190. May 5, 2016 6:14 pm

    Hah! So Ch 7 news is reporting that leaked internal polling has the Libs shitting themselves as they’re likely to lose the bellwether seat of Eden Monaro..

  191. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2016 6:21 pm

    Ahhh! Kohlberg … thanks for the reminder, M … part of my studies – out of mind but like riding a bike when mentioned …

    Like this … evergreen gem …

    http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/bierce/bierce.html

  192. May 5, 2016 6:22 pm

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  193. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2016 6:22 pm

    … they’re likely to lose the bellwether seat of Eden Monaro..

    Yep, just overheard …

  194. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2016 6:31 pm

    The fact is there needs to be massive spending cuts to get the budget back into surplus.

    Where should those cuts be made, neel?

    Don’t know but cuts are a better option than tax increases. Politically it is most probably impossible. The next election will be a good one to lose since we will lose our AAA rating soon.

  195. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 5, 2016 6:57 pm

    “…Don’t know but cuts are a better option than tax increases. ..”

    Why neil? And where should the cuts go?

    “…Shock Liberal polling leaked to 7 News predict Coalition losses in 5 out of 7 key NSW seats…”

    Was that before or after the budget? Any guesses as to who might have leaked?

  196. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2016 7:05 pm

    Any guesses as to who might have leaked?

    Someone who thinks they are a better leader than MALfunction?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Don’t know but cuts are a better option than tax increases.

    Why? If you don’t know then its just a hollow statement … like most of your comments … no substance just vitriol … and ignorance …

    My taxes have gone up and down all my life … whoever was in government …

  197. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2016 7:30 pm

    The next election will be a good one to lose …

    Labor fixes it and then we have an Abbott who lies promises spends like a madwoman, followed by MALfunction who also spends like its going out of fashion and cuts tax for his mates – who don’t pay enough anyway

    And that’s what happens … the Liberal fuck it up … don’t spend on things that keep the society ticking while in power … so schools are in need, the health system falters, infrastructure lags (ie NBN), emissions increase, corporate cheating gets out of control, the economy begins to fail … but they increase the order for F35s that Canada cancelled because of the disastrous development … and then instead of building on the skills and knowledge gained from 1990 on the Collins sub – that’s 26 years – the Liberals farm it out to the French …

    A election to lose means that …

    … the Liberals throw up their hands and say … “the next election would be a good one to lose” … and Labor win and clean up … Liberals badmouth the cleanup – ALP – and the gullibles believe the lies and deceit … and the stealing Liberals start the cycle over …

    We should be spending money on living … not killing machines …

    The country has a revenue problem … because of greed … and a spending problem because of …

    ► Negative Gearing Welfare
    ► Trust Fund Welfare
    ► Super Tax Breaks for the Rich Welfare
    ► Multi-national Tax Dodge Welfare – Emphasising the PANAMA PAPERS
    ► Present Pollie’s Expenses & Perqs Welfare
    ► Post Pollie’s Expenses & Perqs Welfare
    ► Pollies International Travel Wastefulness
    ► Liberal Party Economic Incompetence

  198. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2016 7:34 pm

    Why? If you don’t know then its just a hollow statement … like most of your comments … no substance just vitriol … and ignorance …

    I am not getting paid to answer questions like that. But spending cuts are better for the country than tax increases. I think we are seeing the surplus budgets of Costello were an amazing achievement most probably never to be repeated.

    It also shows how foolish are Labor supporters who say Costello surplus budgets were due to dumb luck, world economic conditions or whatever. They were due to good government.

  199. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2016 7:57 pm

    Labor fixes it

    That comment is very deceitful. Labor abolished the Pacific Solution and let in 50,000 boat people, locked up 8,469 children and reopened a problem Howard had solved.

    Same goes for every major problem we now face.

    infrastructure lags (ie NBN)

    Labor stopped this

    http://www.techworld.com.au/article/395910/opel_would_serving_bush_broadband_today_turnbull/

    Federal opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull has used his National Press Club address to argue the decision to scrap the Howard government’s OPEL network for an NBN has denied the bush broadband services over the past three years…..It is no accident the technologies to be deployed by the NBN are the same as those which would have been used by OPEL. And, had that scheme not been cancelled by Labor in 2008 would today be providing fast broadband to Australians in those areas.”

  200. May 5, 2016 8:03 pm

    Wow! Blib slayed the Libs tonight!

  201. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2016 8:04 pm

    HEAR! HEAR!

    Brilliant … and MALfunction really was!

  202. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2016 8:05 pm

    Malfunctioning …

  203. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2016 8:10 pm

    Yer a fuckwit of the highest order, neel, after all the links and information we’ve provided over the last two years you stick up a piece by MALfunction TurnAbbott defending his fuck up …

  204. May 5, 2016 8:22 pm

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  205. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2016 8:23 pm

    you stick up a piece by MALfunction TurnAbbott defending his fuck up …

    The NBN is the stuffup. Overpriced, most probably take 50 years to build if ever and will most probably bankrupt the country. But if Labor gets back in it would be very easy to go back to Labors FTTP and you lot can show us how it is done.

  206. May 5, 2016 8:24 pm

    Leigh Sales is soooo annoying. I wanted to hear what Mr Shorten had to say, but she interrupted consistently. He stayed calm and handled her well.

    I don’t like Turnbull, but couldn’t vote for Labor, especially when they are promising “real action on climate change”.

    I’ll be looking for a ‘third way’. 🙂

  207. May 5, 2016 8:25 pm

    *constantly, not consistently

  208. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2016 8:35 pm

    what’s wrong with creating a renewable energy manufacturing and research industry, ToSY?

  209. May 5, 2016 8:54 pm

    Nothing, as long as taxpayers aren’t subsidising companies that otherwise would not be viable. But that’s not what I’m referring to, as you well know.

  210. Viability Subsidies permalink
    May 5, 2016 9:19 pm

    (What might a Julian Simon devotee make globally of the industro-capitalist powers-that-be concentrating efforts on developing next-gen tech for sourcing, storage, and distribution of intrinsically more abundant and eventually even cheaper energy; while last-gen energy and tech, especially petroworld, is exceedingly busy selling off its sovereign-national wealth at a brought-forward future-discount, to liberate liquidity for a present-day buy-in and market-making-and-share-taking stake in the inevitable susbstitutionary-emergent?)

  211. May 5, 2016 9:22 pm

    Dunno, but as far as I can tell Simon argued that human ingenuity would solve problems of scarcity. Not government subsidies.

  212. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2016 10:26 pm

    But that’s not what I’m referring to, as you well know.

    Sorry, I don’t “know”?

    BTW human ingenuity doesn’t always come for free …

  213. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 6, 2016 2:37 am

    And where should the cuts go?

    I’d start with huge cuts to the public service. Get rid of the direct employment model and have one based on accountability and contestability.

    Reduce state funding. States are bloated and inefficient – they haven’t felt the fiscal pressure and just throw a tantrum at the first suggestion of restraint and reform.

    Then get rid of middle class welfare and introduce a system of work for welfare for all recipients other than old aged pensioners.

    Disability pensioners can do some form of community service to the extent of their ability

    ,..but I’m also ok with negative gearing reform and tightening of on the multinationals.

    Nice surf here, but junkets conferences can be hard work.

  214. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 6, 2016 9:15 am

    I’d start with huge cuts to the public service. Get rid of the direct employment model and have one based on accountability and contestability.

    I think you’ll find that it’s already gone that way.

    I’d start with making religion pay tax. As is said in the article I link to

    …If religions wish to become highly politicised — under the guise of ‘religious freedom’ — then it’s high time they became financially transparent, factually honest, and started to pay their fair share of tax…

    If religion paid tax, the deficit would disappear. We can’t afford to have these private corporations whose business is religion, not paying tax.

    Why the public want religion to be taxed
    http://theaimn.com/public-want-religion-taxed/

  215. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 6, 2016 9:52 am

    “I am not getting paid to answer questions like that. “

    You mean the Libs are only paying you to provide a basic trolling service here rather than the deluxe version?

  216. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 6, 2016 10:39 am

    You mean the Libs are only paying you to provide a basic trolling service here rather than the deluxe version?

    What are the lib party internet troll wages these days?

    The basic service must be repetition of the same lines over and over again, no imagination, embellishment or independent thought required, just straight out propaganda repetition..

    The emptiness of Tony Abbott:
    https://www.themonthly.com.au/blog/eleanor-robertson/2016/28/2016/1461818948/emptiness-tony-abbott

    …The ex-PM’s latest failed apology shows he still has no idea where he went wrong..

    …This woman’s doubt that Abbott could convey a subjective account of something as simple as the weather – the default small-talk topic in our culture – reveals the real problem: Abbott doesn’t really live on the same planet as the rest of us. Even worse, he just doesn’t realise it. He’s got no idea…

  217. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 6, 2016 10:57 am

  218. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 6, 2016 11:18 am

    The average public servant os paid more than the average private sector worker.

    That’s the entitlement mentality of the public service.

    Brown nosing, time wasting tim tam eaters leeching off battling workers

  219. TB Queensland permalink
    May 6, 2016 11:19 am

    Shorten must have hit the mark … very QT here today … LOL!

  220. May 6, 2016 3:26 pm

    Ha-ha (-: (-:

    # ,, Glad to see ricky enjoyed ya`bingo card (and the amount of `marks` on it)

    # ,, l hope the idiots of boltland have enough brains to return ricky to annoy talkbull, tho not if moonee fcuking ponds is any measure of intellect.

  221. May 6, 2016 3:56 pm

    teabag,,,,introduce a system of work for welfare,,,,

    # ,, Good to see `our` imbecile-herd haven`t learned a damn thing `between` budgets, first, there `is` work-for-dole and IS/HAS costing jobs,

    # ,, Just as this will too,

    # ,, second, the `dcikhead-tosser`s denial and defending of the vision-less john-w regime that didn`t build an nbn/network, but instead flogged-off telecom at the DAWN of the DIGITAL age is a structural deficit

  222. May 6, 2016 4:09 pm

    Good to see`ya dunny, l hope you folks in canoeland aren`t swooning for talkbull`s empty promise of being allowed to build canoes.

    (did you manage to incinerate a few table-cloths this week)

  223. May 6, 2016 4:12 pm

    teabag,,,,Brown nosing, time wasting tim tam eaters leeching off battling workers,,,,

    # ,, they could easily be mistaken as `cubicle-dwellers` (-:

  224. TB Queensland permalink
    May 6, 2016 6:48 pm

    AS I said very QT! G’day BOO!

  225. TB Queensland permalink
    May 6, 2016 7:32 pm

    Dickus Incridibilus!

    The federal environment minister has argued in court that coal from Australia’s largest coalmine would have no “substantial” impact on climate change and as a result he did not need to consider whether it would affect the Great Barrier Reef.

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/may/06/greg-hunt-argues-theres-no-definite-link-between-coal-and-climate-change

    Can this government get anything RIGHT … oh!

  226. TB Queensland permalink
    May 6, 2016 7:36 pm

    Oh! Dear! Shades Of The Minister for Everything in the JBP government in QLD … Rus Hinze …

    The ministerial mouthpiece for these measures is Troy Grant, a National Party politician and former country copper who is deputy premier. He holds an agglomeration of potentially conflicting portfolios: justice and police, racing and the arts.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/06/we-have-an-orwellian-shadow-government-and-your-liberty-is-at-risk

  227. May 6, 2016 8:08 pm

    “Donald Trump is the presumptive Republican candidate. Hillary should win the Dems candidature, but who knows. Bernie Sanders just trounced her in Indiana. Either way, the next POTUS will be a caricature of … something.”

    Indeed!

    InMyHumbleOpinion, a Trump Presidency will reduce the Republicans to a rump for several terms; I see him as a cynical, Elite (with a capital E), populist & non-religious (yay, but that’s not what ‘they’ want) arsehat who now has skin in the game.
    I still think he’ll likely get his arse handed to him in any actual race for POTUS; but stranger things have happened I suppose.
    The ‘will of the people’, even though the US cries foul when ‘other people’ democratically choose something (repugnant) like Hamas?
    No fan of dynasties; certainly not a Clinton dynasty. Sanders has no hope because (misunderstanding of in North America)…”SOCIALIST”-[boo!]…

    Trump, however, is an entirely different kettle of arsehats; don’t even get me started on the fundamentalist shitwipe, Cruz, who would’ve likely been faaaar worse if ascended. Dumb populism should be anathema to serious government, but it is The New Way of harvesting votes; I suppose it was/is inevitable.

    Go The Tiges tonight, btw. Was mortified with their performance against portscum last week… 😦
    Mitchell out, chickenhawks vulnerable: Richmond with something to prove (hopefully).

    Crows travelling well. Litmus tomorrow night.

    Peace all…

  228. TB Queensland permalink
    May 6, 2016 8:10 pm

    Luv ya bro!

    Trans Tas man on now! Real football! ~(:-)

  229. May 6, 2016 8:11 pm

    The,,,,federal environment minister has argued in court that coal,,,,,

    ,,,,he did not need to consider whether it would affect the Great Barrier Reef,,,,

    # ,, They`re just greedy fcuking idiots, on the west-coast there is/was a pristine reef `nin-gah-loo`, if ocean-acid is the cause of trashing the barrier-reef, then no doubt, the west-coast reef will be stuffed too (the oceans are `all` connected teabags)

  230. May 6, 2016 8:42 pm

    “Trans Tas man on now! Real football! ~(:-)”

    NoNecKRunBall continues to be a travesty & laughing stock in this last week, so far as I am lead to believe. Sorry TeeBee.

    Adelaide…fussball premiership, next AFL premiership ( 😯 ).

  231. TB Queensland permalink
    May 6, 2016 9:02 pm

    Chuckle! Oz 10 – Kiwis 0 @ 1/2 time …

    I just watch the games, HD, the side shows are for the freaks (as in your chosen one) … referees/umpires are open season!

  232. May 6, 2016 9:16 pm

    Bubbling is a Main Event, not a sideshow!

  233. May 6, 2016 9:18 pm

    But what about dem TurnAbbotts doe?! 😯

    seriously.

    whodathunkit (except Andrew ‘delcon’ Bolt and his fellow travellers, coz they wrote their script years before it was widely released in public).

  234. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 7, 2016 12:08 am

    Personally I think Adelaide FC is quite undeserving of football success.

    Is Tony Modra still kicking all their goals?

  235. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 7, 2016 12:11 am

    I’ve been here for a week and I have yet to meet anyone who likes Trump. But i don’t mix with red neck bogans and racists.

  236. May 7, 2016 12:10 pm

    Enjoy the `cover`. The-Ronald make you look like a genius. (As long as`ya keep ya`trap shut.) (-;

  237. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 7, 2016 12:14 pm

  238. TB Queensland permalink
    May 7, 2016 2:53 pm

    A Seven-ReachTel poll — the first to rate the parties since Tuesday’s Budget — puts the two-party result at 50-50, as the Prime Minister is poised to visit Governor-General Sir Peter Cosgrove tomorrow to ask for a double dissolution election.

    And my sense of humour gets better each week …

  239. TB Queensland permalink
    May 7, 2016 2:58 pm

    KL, Rudd walked into a similar “trap” set by Howard … I could never understand why he allowed Liberal leaning department heads to continue …

  240. TB Queensland permalink
    May 7, 2016 3:28 pm

    Duh!

    I hope Labor just stick to delivering what Shorten said in his Budget Reply.

    Avoid the silly crap that the Liberals have already begun. Treating us like dills again still.

  241. May 7, 2016 4:20 pm

    canadia blizzard in fort macmurray, glad it`s not related to tar-sands teabags

  242. May 7, 2016 4:25 pm

    prediction, tomorrow blib will prove to barrie`s viewers how bat-shit stupid, voters in moonee fcuking ponds are #insiders

  243. May 7, 2016 5:40 pm

    But,,,,anything goes now with victim feminism. The only acceptable Women are perpetually victimised even if they pay for the cab fare. Even if they slept with someone of their own free will and went home, the patriarchy, invisible as it is, punishes them by having men not text them, or ask them the right questions at the right time about their art,,,, (-: (-: (-: (-: (-:

    http://newmatilda.com/2015/12/09/the-new-feminism-death-by-1000-online-cuts/

  244. Neil permalink
    May 7, 2016 6:49 pm

    glad it`s not related to tar-sands teabags

    The day the ALP stops coal exports which is our second biggest export is the day i will take any notice of what the ALP says about global warming

  245. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 7, 2016 7:32 pm

    Reagan ‘voodoo economics’ at the heart of Scott Morrison’s budget
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/economy/2016/05/07/reagan-voodoo-economics-the-heart-scott-morrisons-budget/14625432003219

    …Following a sponsored visit by Reagan adviser Arthur Laffer, Malcolm Turnbull’s budget is based on the fallacy of his trickle-down economics…

    …Kelly had put her finger on one of the big flaws of the supply-side theory, though. Far from maximising revenue to government, it reduces it. Therefore, its proponents argue, government should get smaller. But voters demand government services and so governments increasingly take on debt.

    An OECD study from last year, “Sovereign Debt Composition in Advanced Economies: A Historical Perspective”, illustrates the phenomenon graphically. The debt-to-GDP ratio of all major nations had fallen sharply from its peak in World War II until the 1970s. Then, coincident with the ascent of the supply-siders, it began to rise. And then rise even faster after the global financial crisis. By 2010 – the end point of the OECD numbers – it had trebled. It continues to zoom upwards even as economies sink into deflation.

    “Jobs and Growth”

    For decades, the dominant belief was that if you look after the rich it will ultimately benefit all, but there is actually precious little evidence that is true. To the contrary, there is growing evidence that it does the exact opposite and increases inequality, which in turn reduces economic growth. The empirical data are increasingly leading people to the conclusion that the current global malaise is substantially a consequence of misplaced faith in trickle-down economics.

    Which is where the 2016 budget comes in…

  246. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 7, 2016 8:18 pm

    The debt-to-GDP ratio of all major nations had fallen sharply from its peak in World War II until the 1970s. Then, coincident with the ascent of the supply-siders, it began to rise.

    Except for us of course. Debt went from 6% of GDP to18% of GDP from1983 to1996.In one of the great achievements in Australian history Howard/Costello took debt from 18% of GDP to zero in 2006

    Of course that great achievement was destroyed by Rudd/Gillard

  247. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 7, 2016 9:39 pm

    It’s not even legal.

    Internship scheme faces Senate hurdle
    http://www.afr.com/brand/afr-magazine/internship-scheme-faces-senate-hurdle-20160506-gooa5i#ixzz47y7aljL5

    …Employment Minister Michaelia Cash told AFR Weekend that changes to the Social Security Act would be required before the Coalition could implement the scheme from April next year…

    …ACTU president Ged Kearney said unions would support the legislative changes being blocked, given union opposition to employers being given $1000 to engage a young jobseeker for up to 25 hours a week below the minimum wage.

    Greens employment spokesman, Adam Bandt, said that ‘from what we know at the moment, we can’t support the government’s scheme to lure young people to work for less than the minimum wage”.

    “The scheme doesn’t just open up young people to exploitation, it may also drive down wages as employers use cheap labour rather than hire an employee at the usual wage,” he said…

    THE 0.01 PER CENT: THE RISING INFLUENCE OF VESTED INTERESTS IN AUSTRALIA
    https://www.themonthly.com.au/rising-influence-vested-interests-australia-001-wayne-swan-4670

    …Back in July 2011, just before Howard lost to that rascal Rudd, then environment minister Malcolm Turnbull showed how it is done by wasting $10 million on a bat crazy idea to make rain without clouds…

    See? Easy.
    The money, by the way, went to Rupert Murdoch’s nephew, Matt Handbury. And no, it didn’t rain.

    We are entering rorting season. You can smell the IPA mustard gas…

  248. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 8, 2016 5:59 am

  249. May 8, 2016 8:52 am

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  250. TB Queensland permalink
    May 8, 2016 7:06 pm

    T–

    Earlier today I announced a federal election for July 2.

    In just eight weeks’ time, our country will vote in a critical election where both Houses of the Parliament have been dissolved.

    With the stakes this high, we need your help to stop the Labor Party (https://www.liberal.org.au/donate?utm_source=Liberal+Party+E-news&utm_campaign=01962f0ddb-It_s_On5_8_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_51af948dc8-01962f0ddb-57938261) from hitting Australians with higher taxes and more debt that will stop the economy dead in its tracks.

    Australians have an important decision to make. My team has a plan for a strong new economy that will create new, higher paying jobs for the 21st century.

    In contrast, Labor has no plan for Australia except to increase taxes by $100 billion over ten years.

    T, will you chip in $50 today to help us deliver our message to Australians? (https://www.liberal.org.au/donate?utm_source=Liberal+Party+E-news&utm_campaign=01962f0ddb-It_s_On5_8_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_51af948dc8-01962f0ddb-57938261)

    The opportunity for our country has never been greater. With your support, our plan will deliver a secure future for families and ensure political stability for Australia.

    Regards,

    Malcolm Turnbull
    Prime Minister

    Chip in fifty fkn dollars … $50 where does this Dickhead™ live again?

    Wanker! Wanker! Wanker! Oi! Oi! Oi!

  251. May 8, 2016 9:02 pm

    lnteresting aint it, in Aust our multi-multi-millioneer imbecile-herd leader begs punters ,,,,will you chip in $50 today to help us deliver our message to Australians?,,,, which indicates much less self-belief in own ability,

    at least `the-ronald` has enough self-belief to fund his own stupidity, not punters

  252. May 8, 2016 9:54 pm

    Good to see toiletboss on the interwebs.

    (Real) Football didn’t turn out correctly this weekend. But that can and should change. Don’t be a stranger!

  253. TB Queensland permalink
    May 8, 2016 9:59 pm

    Hear! Hear! ToSY!

    BTW … is that yours? Very clever stuff! Is that minimalist?

  254. TB Queensland permalink
    May 8, 2016 10:03 pm

    “Not a lot of people know about this, she can cry on queue. I could point at her now and she could produce the tears,” Shane Bourne said.

    http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/awards/logies/live-blog-all-the-action-from-the-2016-tv-week-logie-awards/news-story/49b8903d785385c4573ee1bf16dc6c22

    CUE! You journalistic imbecile!

  255. May 8, 2016 10:08 pm

    That is mine TB. Categories are a lot harder,

  256. TB Queensland permalink
    May 9, 2016 11:16 am

    I’d be happy to frame and hang that here, ToSY.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ToM, in Californiya … Labor 51% – Coalition 49% … LMAO … sense off humour improving daily!

    Has it rained in Californya yet?

  257. TB Queensland permalink
    May 9, 2016 11:19 am

  258. TB Queensland permalink
    May 9, 2016 12:19 pm

    Australian savers facing fresh record-low interest rates may be better off hiding their money under the mattress.

    They’re set to lose up to $1.9 billion in interest on their savings following the Reserve Bank’s rate cut last week, according to comparison website finder.com.au.

    Households currently have $778.4 billion in deposit and savings accounts across the country, the latest data from banking watchdog, the Australian Prudential Regulations Authority, shows.

    Presuming the 0.25 per cent rate cut is passed on in full by Australian banks, this would wipe out a staggering $1.94 billion in interest over the course of a year.

    That equates to a loss of $210 on average for every household, according to Australian Bureau of Statistics 2011 census data.

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/breaking-news/aussie-savers-to-lose-19b-after-rate-cut/news-story/f68e099e5d9541d7f0194e67b88e865c

    Jobs & Growth … mmmm … ? Or … Putting People First?

    Decisions … decisions …

  259. TB Queensland permalink
    May 9, 2016 2:48 pm

    Takes 4-5 minutes …

    https://votecompass.abc.net.au/

  260. May 9, 2016 4:56 pm

    lnteresting talking-head anthony green was saying (yesterday) that the boltland seats are pretty entrenched and doesn`t expect any to change (Let`s hope that applies to ricky muir and any other thorn-in-teabag-sides senators too) and to expect most of the seats that change will be in bananaland, and some in jonesland

    # ,, it would seem then, that the canoe-bribe is expected to work on canoeland, returning the ever-so-lovable crazy-cory and prancing-poodle safely to their patch, unfortunately

  261. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 9, 2016 10:58 pm

  262. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 10, 2016 9:08 am

    So who is it going to be? The <a href="http://orig09.deviantart.net/7515/f/2007/282/2/7/strangled_kitty_by_cupcake73.jpg"cat-strangling Turncoat? Little Billy Two-knives? No doubt some are hoping for the glory days of another dysfunctional hung parliament.

  263. Tom R permalink
    May 10, 2016 11:08 am

    Greens-Liberal preference deal makes a Coalition victory more likely – at the expense of actual progressive govt.

    I wish the Greens and Labor would stop with their petty little gotchas. Every time they do it, they are not only shown to be wrong, it takes attention away from the REAL enemy.

    Not helping Albo!

    Luckily for me, I’m to busy to be really concerned with the matters of mere mortals. 🙂

    Sydney was fantastic, now I still have Adelaide to go. It doesn’t get much better than this

  264. TB Queensland permalink
    May 10, 2016 11:10 am

    After watching Q&A and Lateline last night I’m already over this campaign …

    Duncan should run as an independent (that would also give him a massive payrise) star of Q&A! … Kelly O’Dwyer has certainly reached her “level of incompetence” (thick as a brick) …

    Innes Willox was just a pillox … Adam Brandt said some odd things … Andrew Leigh should be promoted (at least he had a clue) … the silly woman from ACOSS needs to stop talking so much …

    On Lateline … Steven Ciobo should have a lie detector strapped on for every interview … and poor old Anthony Albanese still didn’t tell us where the refugee kids would be housed other than in detention …

    … well done Emma and Tony BTW!

  265. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 10, 2016 11:20 am

    Albo under pressure. I wish labor would see the libs as the competition and enemy and not the greens. A labor/greens coalition is much better for the country than the RWNJ party. Labor shouldn’t be trying to hug the polices of the libs closely, they should be more progressive and force the libs back to the centre rather than occupying the extreme right. Labor should represent the views of the population, not the Liberal Party.
    I would have no problem with a hung parliament, there is too much power given to one party if they have a decisive win. Look what Abbott and Howard did when they romped in!

  266. Tom R permalink
    May 10, 2016 11:38 am

    I wish labor would see the libs as the competition and enemy and not the greens

    I AGREE!

    But, it is a two way street. I heard DiNatale’s comments with wtte about Shorten “opening the campaign at a mine” on the weekend.

    That was pretty low imo. Considering WHY Shorten was at Beaconsfield mine.

  267. TB Queensland permalink
    May 10, 2016 11:53 am

    I think both Labor and Greens need back off and use their energy against the Libs … not each other …

  268. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 10, 2016 12:13 pm

    Yeah, I didn’t catch dinatale’s comment but have seen some twitter comments saying it was an unfortunate lapse on his part. What did he say?

  269. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 10, 2016 12:24 pm

    A good article.

    Australians crave change. But this election won’t deliver it.
    http://gu.com/p/4jxef?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

  270. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 10, 2016 1:22 pm

    A labor/greens coalition is much better for the country than the RWNJ party.

    Why?

  271. TB Queensland permalink
    May 10, 2016 2:36 pm

    The Border Protection Act allows asylum seekers to be flown to Australia for medical care in exceptional circumstances, but the court heard that Dutton did not believe her case to be exceptional. He had her flown to Papua New Guinea for the procedure instead, despite abortion being illegal in that country and the hospital lacking the expert staff and equipment required to make the operation as safe as possible. The abortion would have placed the woman at risk of criminal prosecution, Bromberg found.

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/may/10/peter-dutton-will-not-appeal-ruling-pregnant-asylum-seeker

    Dopey Dutton! Despite the fact that any expat in PNG wouldn’t be seen in a PNG hospital … they fly to Cairns Base Hospital!

    Don’t our pollies know that PNG Nationals are bigger dog botherers than themselves?

  272. Walrus permalink
    May 10, 2016 4:18 pm

    “Especially when the reason for that is [that] I didn’t get a good education and made the wrong choices at 13. When you know it’s your own fault that you’re not making a lot of money, it hurts.”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/election-2016-qa-star-duncan-storrar-puts-a-human-face-on-the-budget-battle-20160509-goqc7d.html#ixzz48ENGtDI8

    Whuilst I do have sympathy for his children if you admit to making the wrong choices at 13 then dont start whingeing about it later in life and expect the taxpayer to put their hand in pocket to continually help you out.

    And I’ll just wait here for the teary eyed Lefties on here to shout “you have no empathy”.

    Guess what ?………………………………..you absolutely correct.

    He had his choices…..he chose poorly.

    Others fronted up to school every day they could, went to Uni based on merit, kept studying part time after graduation and worked plenty of unpaid overtime to get where we are today.

    Then this dick gets on Q&A and complains about people on $80K a year getting a tax break.

    Well tooooooooooooo fucking bad.

  273. TB Queensland permalink
    May 10, 2016 4:43 pm

    Guess what ?………………………………..you absolutely correct.

    We always is … and we known that anyway* … ~(8-(

  274. May 10, 2016 5:02 pm

    …………………………..you absolutely correct.

    And let’s not forget about the dickheads who skipped grammar class and ended up counting other people’s money for a living.

  275. Walrus permalink
    May 10, 2016 5:31 pm

    “And let’s not forget about the dickheads who skipped grammar class and ended up counting other people’s money for a living.”

    And let’s not forget about the dickheads who skipped grammar class and ended up counting other people’s money for a very high standard of living.

    Fixed it for ya !

  276. TB Queensland permalink
    May 10, 2016 5:32 pm

    Noice to see the krystian principles of the 21st Century so obviously displayed … and in stark contrast to what the founder of the religion was purported to say … believe and demonstrate …

  277. TB Queensland permalink
    May 10, 2016 5:46 pm

    … for a very high standard of living.

    You really believe that other people don’t work hard … you really believe that everyone has the breaks that you had early in life?

    This country is not run for the rich and infamous … it is a society of many!

    Maybe we should shift all the “entitled” off to Nauru or Manus Island for five years … no-one to fix yer car (if you have one), or TV, plumbing, power (solar is good) etc …

    And some people left school early and graduated much later in life … is that ’cause they were dumb? Or because they had other responsibilities and didn’t have the family resources to fall back on …

    And some people struggle with academia but are brilliant at other skills and knowledge …

    Next you’ll be telling us that footballer millionaires are geniuses …

    There are always people worse off than you and always people better off than you … the BIG difference is how they live together …

    You must be a very lonely soul, Walter. (And you may not even know it)

    Scrabble, scrabble … isn’t living … its surviving.

  278. TB Queensland permalink
    May 10, 2016 6:19 pm

  279. Walrus permalink
    May 10, 2016 6:30 pm

    “”You really believe that other people don’t work hard “”

    I knew the teary eyed fanatics would shuffle out of their caves

    As usual that”s not what I said

    He said this …………………………..

    “” I didn’t get a good education and made the wrong choices at 13. When you know it’s your own fault that you’re not making a lot of money, it hurts.”

    I could have also””retired””to the beach at 13 but I didn’t

    “”Others fronted up to school every day they could, went to Uni based on merit, kept studying part time after graduation and worked plenty of unpaid overtime to get where we are today””

    “”You must be a very lonely soul, Walter””

    Actually………………………………………………Nope !

    And this bit might surprise iyou

    I dont give a flying rats arse about what you think of moi LOL

  280. Walrus permalink
    May 10, 2016 6:33 pm

    The Hollies………………………………Oh Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease

    Teary eyed wealth hater as usual

  281. TB Queensland permalink
    May 10, 2016 6:35 pm

    I could have also””retired””to the beach at 13 but I didn’t

    Said that …

    I dont give a flying rats arse about what you think of moi LOL

    Ya think … 😀

    Numbers ain’t psychology … obviously … LOL indeed …

    So what happened to all those krystian beliefs, wally? What are the Seven Deadly Sins again?

  282. TB Queensland permalink
    May 10, 2016 6:41 pm

    BTW walter … wealth is not just about money … and I’m quite comfy BTW (well off in many circles) as I’m sure you’ve figured out … we just have a different take on humanity …

    You’d be happy with Bill Shorten’s attack on retrospective laws governing superannuation I’m sure …

    The Liberals are only progressive when its regressive … odd

  283. TB Queensland permalink
    May 10, 2016 6:42 pm

    Teary eyed wealth hater as usual

    What a strange reaction … for most people …

  284. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 10, 2016 6:46 pm

    Here in Australia… we don’t have Donald Trump. It’s really quite civilised

  285. TB Queensland permalink
    May 10, 2016 6:48 pm

    Just as greedy tho’, ToM …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Wally, I don’t hate wealth … I do dislike greed tho’ …

  286. TB Queensland permalink
    May 10, 2016 7:12 pm

    You’d be happy with Bill Shorten’s attack on retrospective laws governing superannuation I’m sure … ?

    You missed this, wally …

  287. TB Queensland permalink
    May 10, 2016 7:14 pm

    Wonder if all the Diggers will remember their poor pay increase and reduced work conditions …

    Just sayin’ …

  288. May 10, 2016 8:02 pm

    it has taken a while, but it is good to see you`re up to speed on the odwyer critter (-: #qandaland

  289. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 11, 2016 9:20 am

    Clearly Vox has not heard of Tom R.

  290. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 11, 2016 9:23 am

    Just as greedy tho’, ToM …

    I’m not so sure about that TB. Trump is a bully, narcissist, bombastic, blowhard.. with no experience and no sense.

    With Trump as a benchmark, it is bizarre to use the word “misogynist” on so many other people.

    Clive Palmer is about the closest. There is no way someone like Trump would get a look in in a mainstream party here.

    He is a true F**KWIT

  291. Walrus permalink
    May 11, 2016 10:22 am

    LOL

    Seems I am not alone afterall

    “DUNCAN Storrar pleaded for a tax break for people on minimum wage but it turns out he is already getting one.”

    “Just another bludger with an inflated sense of entitlement,”

    “Just a simple ‘thank you’ to those of us who support you would have been more appropriate, Duncan,”

    “How dare he ask for more from the people who already put food in his mouth, that of his kids, and that of the housing commission dwelling ex.”

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/federal-budget/aussie-battler-who-asked-for-a-tax-break-already-pays-no-net-tax/news-story/913bd82a60618bfb08d28437a3bae1a0

  292. TB Queensland permalink
    May 11, 2016 10:24 am

    Seems I am not alone afterall (sic)

    Well there is a lot of kristyanitee going about, walter …

  293. TB Queensland permalink
    May 11, 2016 10:28 am

    There’s at least three of you , wally …

    But not everybody shares that view.

    “Just another bludger with an inflated sense of entitlement,” one commenter wrote on a recent story.

    Others wrote: “Just a simple ‘thank you’ to those of us who support you would have been more appropriate, Duncan,” and “How dare he ask for more from the people who already put food in his mouth, that of his kids, and that of the housing commission dwelling ex.”

    And four if you count the “journo” …

  294. Walrus permalink
    May 12, 2016 9:45 am

    You bunch of Leftist fools. You believe any stupid cnut with a sob story to tell…………

    “Duncan ­Storrar’s son, Aztec Major, paints a very different picture of his ­father.

    Mr Major, 20, said he couldn’t believe it when he saw people ­donating tens of thousands of dollars to a Go Fund Me page set up for Mr Storrar, who captured the nation’s attention when he appeared on the ABC’s Q&A on Monday, saying he didn’t make enough money to take his kids to the pictures.

    “He doesn’t deserve it,” said Mr Major, who uses his mother’s surname. “He’s used drugs. He’s not the person he’s making himself out to be.”

    Mr Major said he moved in with his father when he was 17 ­because “I guess I wanted to get to know him but it was while I was living with him, he was using drugs, and I got addicted with him and that was the start of my downward ­spiral”. He said it took all his courage to break free of his father “and I’ve been clean since November 2014”. ………………”

  295. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 12, 2016 10:07 am

    Leftists are soooooooooooo dumb. Anything that looks like a “victim” stirs their loins. Soon their hands are pumping, their faces red and there is so much sticky stuff covering the screen that it really needs windscreen wipers which are packaged with every TV sold to a known leftist. The life of the leftist is validated by such outpourings. They have an insatiable lust for victims. Their lives have no meaning without victims. Without them they have no reason to strut and posture and disport their exquisite consciences. Thus all their supposed remedies are calculated to increase the number of victims rather than actually help them.

  296. TB Queensland permalink
    May 12, 2016 10:17 am

    Guffaw! LOL! So-oooo funny … shrillier and shrillier … retrospective taxes inclusive … chuckle …

  297. TB Queensland permalink
    May 12, 2016 10:21 am

    TurnAbbott is victim too I suppose …

    FEDERAL Police will today make a court application that could lead to Malcolm Turnbull’s election campaign being derailed close to polling day.

    The AFP will ask the Federal Court for access to records related to the James Ashby affair — the claim that a former staffer to Peter Slipper copied his employer’s confidential diary and gave the information to others.

    This comes as Mr Turnbull was linked to a company named in the Panama Papers. He was a former director of a company incorporated by embattled law firm Mossack Fonseca, but there is no suggestion Mr Turnbull had acted improperly.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/turnbulls-ticking-time-bomb-how-slipper-affair-could-derail-campaign/news-story/961389c63aee3b2549edfd02859789b4

  298. Walrus permalink
    May 12, 2016 10:39 am

    “This comes as Mr Turnbull was linked to a company named in the Panama Papers.”

    Of for fucks sake.

    I wish I had another $100 for every Pty Limited compant I’ve set up for clients over the years where I would be appointed it first director ( a shell company at that stage) before handing it over to the small business owner who wanted it in the first place

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