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Voters give PM David Cameron “the big finger”

June 24, 2016

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With concerns over unchecked immigration, its floundering economy and harsh austerity measures, the British people have given toffee nosed Prime Minister David Cameron “the big finger” and voted to leave the European Union.

Cameron gambled big and lost, with the public rejecting his fear campaign of economic Armageddon should the ‘Leave’ campaign win the vote.  It’s a massive snub to his leadership, the political elite and the status quo (not the band).

His position as PM now appears untenable and there’s already speculation that he will be forced to resign.

There are suggestions that the next PM could be former London Mayor, the colourful Boris Johnson, who campaigned for the ‘Leave’ vote.

Questions also hang over what comes next for the nations that make up the United Kingdom that voted to ‘Remain.’

Voters in both Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to ‘Remain,’ unlike Wales and England.

 

 

 

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  1. June 24, 2016 4:18 pm

    “”Westminster was the target of this referendum as much as Brussels – and the scale of the public’s demand for change is breathtaking””

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/24/brexit-earthquake-has-happened-the-rubble-will-take-years-to-clear?CMP=share_btn_tw

  2. Walrus permalink
    June 24, 2016 4:20 pm

    But what happens to Eurovision ?

  3. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 24, 2016 4:49 pm

    When the entire political class, the bureaucrats, the intelligentsia, the unions, big business and the banks are all trying to scare the ordinary voter into remaining the answer is clear.

    The political class is on the nose everywhere. People are sick of being governed by lying self-serving careerists.

  4. June 24, 2016 4:51 pm

    Eveyone waiting for Cameron to speak. The London Stock Exchange opens in 10 minutes.

  5. June 24, 2016 4:52 pm

    “People are sick of being governed by lying self-serving careerists.”

    Indeed.

  6. June 24, 2016 4:56 pm

    Christiane Amanpour on CNN: “But, but, but, all the experts said this is a bad idea. How could this happen to me us Europe Britain?”

    Stupid plebs.

  7. Walrus permalink
    June 24, 2016 5:05 pm

    “Stupid plebs.”

    Indeed……………….seems you just cant trust them with Referendums……………or even perhaps Plebescites*

    LOL

    * from Latin plebiscitum, from plebs, pleb- ‘the common people’ + scitum ‘decree’ (from sciscere ‘vote for’). The sense ‘direct vote of the whole electorate’ dates from the mid 19th century.
    Roman History a law enacted by the plebeians’ assembly.

  8. Walrus permalink
    June 24, 2016 5:10 pm

    Keith Vaz, the MP for Leicester East has called this a ………

    “crushing, crushing decision.”………….”it’s a terrible day for Britain with immense consequences.”…………….. “It will be catastrophic for our country, for Europe and the rest of the world.”

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/brexit-poll-live-the-uk-votes-in-eu-referendum-20160623-gpqo5d.html#ixzz4CTjEOfzw

    Oh spare us all.

    The Markets will adjust…………the sun will shine………………..the rain will fall…………..and the birds will still sing.

  9. June 24, 2016 5:14 pm

    “The Markets will adjust…………the sun will shine………………..the rain will fall…………..and the birds will still sing.”

    And Britain will be better off in the long run. Now Scotland should leave Britain.

    As a basic principle, government should be as close and accountable as possible to the people being affected by its decisions.

  10. Walrus permalink
    June 24, 2016 5:23 pm

    Londoner Beverly Davis, 33, sitting outside a tube station in Islington with friend Rosie Ellis, 32, said ……………….

    “I just can’t believe we’ve done this. ………….I can’t believe we live in a country that’s so insular and inward-looking and filled with bigotry and hate……………….. I just don’t understand what’s not to love about Europeans. They’re so embracing of us, they learn our language, they learn our culture and I don’t understand why we don’t want to be a part of it.”…….

    “We’re going to rue this day, we really are. In a world where everyone is joining trading blocs…I just don’t understand why you wouldn’t want to be part of something bigger than yourself. It’s so little England. It’s so generational as well. I feel like the old people in this country don’t have a future here and yet they’ve stopped us from having one too.”……“There are a lot of people who are going to be really angry about this.”

    However Martin Smith, 42, also returning from the pub said he is thrilled with the result.

    “I think it’s awesome. I think we’re going to take control of our future, our destiny and it might be painful in the short term but it’s going to be awesome in 10 years’ time.“..“I go skiing in the Swiss Alps every single year. I go on a summer holiday every single year and I’m going to keep on doing that and there’s not going to be an issue with that.”

    http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/mixture-of-brexit-shock-and-elation-on-streets-of-london/news-story/237d68b0c701e02fa3e6cdd60a5a7a2f

  11. June 24, 2016 5:29 pm

    The wetters across the channel are already starting to panic, nederlandz and france want a ned-exit and fr-exit. #my.abc.24

    Closer to home, we already have a prime-meddler that has wanted to partially `abdicate` his role of collecting-tax and said states should collect-tax. Could you imagine, there may never be a more `exciting` time in canberra having a fed-exit vote (-:

  12. June 24, 2016 5:30 pm

    Cameron’s resigned. He’ll be caretaker until a new PM is chosen. FTSE 100 down around 6.5%.

  13. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 24, 2016 5:38 pm

    Cameron’s resigned. He’ll be caretaker until a new PM is chosen. FTSE 100 down around 6.5%.

    How come when the world gets spooked share prices drop? Why can’t housing prices drop instead? I don’t think the GFC affected housing prices at all.

  14. June 24, 2016 5:44 pm

    As,,,,,a basic principle, government should be as close and accountable as possible to the people being affected by its decisions,,,,,

    # ,, Well said tinfoil`osy.

    # ,, Maybe we should start a Federal exit (fed-exit) campaign???? (-:

  15. June 24, 2016 5:45 pm

    “How come when the world gets spooked share prices drop?”

    It’s a knee-jerk reaction by the herd, Neil. Not necessarily logical. Besides, you can sell shares in seconds. It takes a lot longer to sell a house.

    Remember, too, that for every panic seller of shares there’s a careful buyer who thinks they are good (or at least fair) value.

  16. June 24, 2016 5:48 pm

    After 45 minutes of trading, the FTSE is down “only” 4.9%. Not exactly Armageddon.

  17. TB Queensland permalink
    June 24, 2016 5:59 pm

    But what happens to Eurovision ?

    nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The London Stock Exchange opens in 10 minutes.

    Serves ’em right … er left … or sumfink!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Roman History a law enacted by the plebeians’ assembly.

    Indeed … “a law” that over-rode the Senate (ie ruling class) … but in a couple of millennia bastardised by the Australian Parliament … to have no value whatever …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Oh spare us all.

    The Markets will adjust…………the sun will shine………………..the rain will fall…………..and the birds will still sing.

    Absofknlutely! These pricks still think they rule a fkn empire!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Now Scotland should leave Britain

    Couple of issues there, ToSY, Scotland leaving … too late … and its not Britain … it the United Kingdom these days … as opposed to Great Britain – unless that’s what you meant – jus Britain not Great … ??

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Cameron’s resigned. He’ll be caretaker until a new PM is chosen. FTSE 100 down around 6.5%.

    That was fkn quick! My cousin in Sussex will be pleased tho’ … bit silly its wasn’t an election just a basic SPQR decision …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    How come when the world gets spooked share prices drop?

    ‘Cause the world is full of Dickheads© trying to make money from fear … and making it …

    Brexit was just a LIBERAL PARTY conspiracy!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Mmmmmm … QLDexit!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Voters in both Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to ‘Remain,’ unlike Wales and England.

    That sounds familiar somehow … wonder how significant that is … ?

  18. Walrus permalink
    June 24, 2016 6:00 pm

    Italian Banks are down between 13 and 26%. Unicredit is off 16%

    It’s the “Club Med” countries that are getting whacked

  19. TB Queensland permalink
    June 24, 2016 6:02 pm

    After 45 minutes of trading, the FTSE is down “only” 4.9%. Not exactly Armageddon.

    Indeed, ToSY, and proves your reply to neel … (yours was much “nicer” than mine but similar) …

  20. TB Queensland permalink
    June 24, 2016 6:03 pm

    It’s the “Club Med” countries that are getting whacked

    You sound surprised, wally??? Aren’t they still the weakest?

  21. Walrus permalink
    June 24, 2016 6:08 pm

    Athens Exchange

    Piraeus Bank, National Bank and Alpha Bank all down 26 to 29%

    Go You Bears ……………!

  22. June 24, 2016 6:08 pm

    Sportsbet odds for Next Conservative Party Leader (after David Cameron):

    Boris Johnson $1.67; Theresa May $3.50; Michael Gove $7.50; George Osborne $7.50.

  23. Walrus permalink
    June 24, 2016 6:12 pm

    “You sound surprised, wally???”

    Not at all.

    One of the EU’s financial powerhouses has hit the eject button which leave just Germany and to a lesser extent France to do the bailing on a sinking ship.

    And I’m not so sure Scotland would go indi now just to perhaps seek its own EU entry if the whole EU experiment is now under threat.

    Scotland the Brave ?………………..Maybe not

  24. June 24, 2016 6:13 pm

    “and its not Britain … it the United Kingdom these days”

    I stand corrected.

  25. Walrus permalink
    June 24, 2016 6:14 pm

    Boris Johnson is my pick. They need someone who wants to own this and who really believes in it

  26. Walrus permalink
    June 24, 2016 6:24 pm

    Football Catastrophe as well………………………..

    http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/what-the-brexit-could-mean-for-your-english-premier-league-team-20160624-gpr899.html

  27. June 24, 2016 6:25 pm

    “The time to buy is when there’s blood in the streets.”

  28. June 24, 2016 6:27 pm

    “”He was never that good, he was just cocky. It was never luck, it was just Teflon. And now it’s worn off.””

    Sounds bit like someone closer to home…

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/24/david-cameron-resign-teflon-cockiness

  29. June 24, 2016 6:30 pm

    “Sounds bit like someone closer to home…”

    Heh. We need a Malspulsion and Billdundancy.

  30. June 24, 2016 6:50 pm

    “Lord’s Prayer – 66 words

    10 Commandments – 179 words

    Gettysburg address – 286 words

    EU regulations on the sale of cabbage – 26,911 words”

    (I’d like to add the Declaration of Independence – 1337 words.)

  31. June 24, 2016 6:53 pm

    “The U.S. Constitution has 4,400 words. It is the oldest and shortest written Constitution of any major government in the world.”

  32. June 24, 2016 7:04 pm

    “I have made this longer than usual because I have not had time to make it shorter.”

  33. TB Queensland permalink
    June 24, 2016 7:19 pm

    I stand corrected.

    I were jokin’ lad … a bit .. 🙂

  34. TB Queensland permalink
    June 24, 2016 7:20 pm

    (I’d like to add the Declaration of Independence – 1337 words.)
    No mention of the katlik bible?

  35. June 24, 2016 7:37 pm

    “No mention of the katlik bible?”

    No. But here’s George Orwell mentioning the (Church of England) King James Bible:

    I am going to translate a passage of good English into modern English of the worst sort. Here is a well-known verse from Ecclesiastes:

    I returned and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

    Here it is in modern English:

    Objective considerations of contemporary phenomena compel the conclusion that success or failure in competitive activities exhibits no tendency to be commensurate with innate capacity, but that a considerable element of the unpredictable must invariably be taken into account.

  36. June 24, 2016 8:35 pm

    considerable,,,,element of the unpredictable must invariably be taken into account,,,,

    # ,, lnteresting the KJ moldy-book has that in it teebz, the translation looks like a `corporatized` version for `new-franchise` buyers, too bad teh-west couldn`t hold on to some of that `deeper` thought, instead of the `me,me,me` attitude of l-earned, l-deserve etc l think the asians particularly china do well with this reality, and annually acknowledge `good-fortune` (luck) which l suspect helps them remain humble and not fall into the arrogance based problems teh-west has plowed head-first into.

  37. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 24, 2016 8:51 pm

    I happened to be speaking to a Scottish lass today. She was devastated. Another independence vote may be an outcome.

  38. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 24, 2016 9:22 pm

    I happened to be speaking to a Scottish lass today. She was devastated.

    History is interesting. It was news to me but Scotland was allied with France against England for centuries. The Union was a miracle. When England play Scotland in Rugby they play Flower of Scotland. God save the Queens gets drowned out with expletives

    If the Scots want Europe, let them have it. But i doubt Europe will pay for the welfare the Scots want

  39. June 25, 2016 6:39 am

    FTSE 100 closed down “just” 3.15%.

    Crisis averted. Normal programming will resume shortly.

  40. TB Queensland permalink
    June 25, 2016 9:01 am

    Here ya go, neel …

    The page, set up by William Oliver Healey, reads: “We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the Remain or Leave vote is less than 60% based on a turnout less than 75%, there should be another referendum.”

    If a petition receives more than 100,000 signatures, they will be considered for debate in parliament.

    The Petitions Committee considers all petitions that have received 100,000 signatures by Friday afternoon, at its subsequent meeting.

    The next meeting is on Tuesday 28 June, where the committee has the power to schedule petitions for debate in Westminster Hall on a Monday from 4.30pm, for up to three hours.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/24/petition-second-eu-referendum-crashes-house-of-commons-website

  41. TB Queensland permalink
    June 25, 2016 9:04 am

    BTW … the sky hasn’t fallen here … but seems to have lost a bit in Mexico … 🙂

  42. TB Queensland permalink
    June 25, 2016 9:13 am

    MALfunctions Equality Games v4.0 …

    “The consequence of a ‘yes’ vote in the plebiscite will be that same-sex marriage will be legal in Australia”, he told parliament, as if saying it with conviction would actually make it happen.

    But he can’t guarantee that. He conceded on Friday that Coalition MPs would have a free vote in the parliament after a national plebiscite had succeeded.

    And crucial details, with a real bearing on that vote, have been so hotly disputed that the attorney general, George Brandis, shelved a final cabinet decision on the conduct of the plebiscite until after the election.

    One of the most contentious issues was whether the Australian Electoral Commission would report the results of the national vote on an electorate-by -electorate basis – something that would allow MPs to vote against a national “yes” vote if their own constituency had voted “no”.

    And several have said this is exactly their intention. Andrew Hastie said so during the Canning byelection. Andrew Nikolic reportedly announced a similar intention at an election forum last week in Bass. Eric Abetz left open the possibility earlier in the year in an interview with Guardian Australia. Craig Kelly has also reserved the right to oppose same-sex marriage if his electorate voted against it. Cory Bernardi has said he won’t be voting yes under any circumstances.

    MALfunctions Climate Games v1232.0

    And there’s a similar crunch coming on climate policy. The Climate Institute asserted in its policy “report card” this week that it was feeling encouraged because “the Coalition, Labor, Greens and Nick Xenophon Team (NXT) now all support emissions trading”. It says this is a fact because it is what all those with deep interest in the policy are being assured will occur.

    But again, imagine if the prime minister who promised he would never lead a party that was not as committed to action on climate change as he was failed to deliver, if the conservatives were unwilling to allow the ramping up of the baseline and credit scheme that has always been embedded within Direct Action.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jun/24/election-2016-malcolm-turnbull-eu-refendum-liberal-party-marriage-equality

  43. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 25, 2016 9:19 am

    to implement a rule that if the Remain or Leave vote is less than 60% based on a turnout less than 75%, there should be another referendum.”

    I tend to agree with that. When you are going to change the status quo a large number in favor is preferable.

  44. TB Queensland permalink
    June 25, 2016 12:30 pm

    Yep, I suspect a lot of people will now be saying WTF have we done …

  45. June 25, 2016 2:16 pm

    Ol’ Sancty tweets:

  46. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 25, 2016 2:29 pm

    When you see the types who are bitterly angry about #Brexit you can relax knowing the UK have dodged a massive bullet.

    Agree with that. I personally would have voted for exit. I must admit i was happy with the result but for major changes it would be nice if it was 60:40.

    Scotlands no vote was expected but NI was a surprise.

  47. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 25, 2016 3:00 pm

    So English people want to leave the EU.

    Scotland will leave England to it’s self imposed isolation

  48. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 25, 2016 3:15 pm

    Scotland will leave England to it’s self imposed isolation

    The strange thing is that the Scots went close voting not so long ago to become a free and independent nation. But they will sell their souls to Brussels.

    Same goes for the Irish. They wanted independence from Britain. As soon as they got it they became members of the EU and sold their souls to Brussels.

    I would rather be isolated than be a member of the EU.

  49. Tom R permalink
    June 25, 2016 3:17 pm

    Ol’ Sancty tweets:

    Yea well, it’s not like he’d be out snorkling the reef anymore, is he. 😉

    So, the poms have left. Who cares?

    Poms doing what they have always done, whinging.

    Yesterday, it was “woe is us, it’s all the EU’s fault.”

    Today it’s, “woe is us, it’s all the EU’s fault.”

    Some things never change, you know, like judith sloane making shit up.

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2016/06/24/still-counting/#comment-2067404

    One week to go, and my work has just gone into overdrive, so I’m going to miss all the ‘fun’

    Behave yourselves peeps!

  50. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 25, 2016 3:21 pm

    WTF? Scotland has shown itself to be more outward looking than England. More European rather than brown nosing to the English.

    They will do well out of remaining in the EU

  51. Tom R permalink
    June 25, 2016 3:25 pm

    Scotland has shown itself to be more outward looking than England

    As nil has alluded to above yomm, they have for centuries. Although, in truth, back then, it was more for their own survival than any idealistic yearning.

  52. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 25, 2016 3:25 pm

    More European rather than brown nosing to the English.

    That is true. For centuries the Scots were allied with France against England.

    But the recent campaign was for Scotland to be free and independent. Wrong. They want to live under Brussels and want nothing to do with the English. Same goes for the Irish.

    Trouble is would the EU want the Scots?

  53. Tom R permalink
    June 25, 2016 3:27 pm

    OUCH

  54. Tom R permalink
    June 25, 2016 3:31 pm

  55. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 25, 2016 3:56 pm

    They will do well out of remaining in the EU

    Lets say the Scots declare their Independence and leave Britain and then apply for EU membership. Would the EU accept them? Most probably not. Then what would the Scots do?

  56. June 25, 2016 5:32 pm

    Scotland will do what it has done for centuries. Sell itself out to the highest bidder. #ye.olde.habits.are.hard.to.break.laddie

  57. June 25, 2016 5:34 pm

    “”Scotland will do what it has done for centuries. Sell itself out to the highest bidder. “”

    History isn’t your strong point is it.

  58. Tom R permalink
    June 25, 2016 5:41 pm

    Does boo HAVE a strong point?

  59. June 25, 2016 6:11 pm

    Wallace evaded capture by the English until 5 August 1305 when John de Menteith, a Scottish knight loyal to Edward, turned Wallace over to English soldiers

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wallace

  60. June 25, 2016 6:14 pm

    On 10 February 1306 Robert Bruce participated in the killing of John Comyn before the high altar of the Greyfriars Church in Dumfries.[6] Legend, possibly apocryphal, says Robert the Bruce called Comyn to a meeting, stabbed him and rushed out to tell Roger de Kirkpatrick. Kirkpatrick went in to finish the job

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_III_Comyn,_Lord_of_Badenoch

  61. June 25, 2016 6:17 pm

    Bruce, like all his family, had a complete belief in his right to the throne. However, his actions of supporting alternately the English and Scottish armies had led to a great deal of distrust towards Bruce among the “Community of the Realm of Scotland”. His ambition was further thwarted by John Comyn, who had been much more resolute in his opposition to the English. Comyn was the most powerful noble in Scotland and was related to many more powerful nobles both within Scotland and England

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_the_Bruce

  62. Tom R permalink
    June 25, 2016 6:51 pm

    Just curious

    Has any journo asked malcayman just what his plan for jobsongrowth is?

    I mean, yabot got in without being asked how, are we seeing a repeat?

  63. June 25, 2016 7:14 pm

    History,,,,,isn`t your strong point is it,,,,,

    http://www.trumpgolfscotland.com

    #ye.olde.habits.are.still.hard.to.break.laddie (-:

    ,

    Good to see the return of the team-cheerer, blib needs 20+ seats to `win`, has he got`em yet???? (-:

  64. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 25, 2016 8:29 pm

    Yeah!!

    About 5 centuries ago some Scot made a bad decision so that meant that the entire nation always sells out to the highest bidder!

  65. June 25, 2016 8:59 pm

    Scotland love teabag-theory as much as you. We only have to wait`n see if the `highest-bidder` is britannia or teh-eu.

  66. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 25, 2016 9:58 pm

    We only have to wait`n see if the `highest-bidder` is britannia or teh-eu.

    I really doubt that the EU would want Scotland. I have seen comments that there are separatists movements with the EU eg Spain. Allowing Scotland in would encourage other regions to declare their independence if they think they could join the EU.

    So i suspect Scotland would be on its own if they separated from Britain

  67. June 26, 2016 12:04 pm

    FMD, watching my abc24, the teabag `launch`. Talkbull has used the term `our-cause` several times in opening blather. Other times l`ve heard the term `our-cause` used, it was applied to topics like, voluntary euthanasia, gay marriage, preserving planet, wildlife and people, not making the richest even richer. Talkbull then blathered on about previous teabag `great-leaders` john-w and rabbit. (#guffaw) While talkbull was blathering, the camera showed viewers john-w and rabbit, the rabbit didn`t look at all impressed with talkbull`s oozing blather, l`m sure he would have rather been anywhere else.

  68. June 26, 2016 12:37 pm

    Talkbull`s blather spent quite a bit of time trying to instill panic in voters and urging them to vote teabag in the house `and` senate, and the `dangers` of a blib-led watermelon-govt.

    (Later, Toolman added 20 seats are in play and `minors` are the big attraction/s to voters this time)

    # ,, Between toolman and talkbull (yeah, yeah, no quality assurance) seem to indicate there will NOT be an `outright` blib govt.

  69. June 26, 2016 4:32 pm

    Did somebody mention global cooling????

    The,,,,,,,,,,former Liberal leader John Hewson addressed hundreds of people protesting in the Sydney suburb of Double Bay – minutes from Malcolm Turnbull`s harbourside mansion – calling on the prime minister to take stronger action on climate change.

    Speaking at the same time as Turnbull addressed the party faithful at the Coalition`s campaign launch, Hewson told protesters the Coalition`s lack of action on climate change was a “national disgrace”.

    “I think climate change should be the dominant issue of this campaign .. it should have been for quite some time,” said Hewson, who was once the local member for the seat of Wentworth, which includes Double Bay,,,,,,,,,,

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/jun/26/climate-change-john-hewson-accuses-coalition-of-national-disgrace

    ,,,,,,,,,,,He said “short-term politicking” from both sides left targets that were inadequate and policies that were not going to meet those targets.

    “The one thing that hasn’t failed is people like yourselves,” he said. “The community is way ahead of the political leaders and the business leaders on this issue.”

    He urged the crowd to push political leaders for a bipartisan approach to climate change. “Enough is enough, it’s time to act,” Hewson said,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    # ,, (from TV) hewson then went on to say the `neglect` of using our plentiful solar renews, when your `slogan` is jobs`n growth, pilloried the teabags for dumping the `most-shovel-ready` industry we have. lt was quite a bollocking from hewson, and worth digging up the clip if`ya miss the news tonight folks. lt also says quite a bit about the teabags, that hewson didn`t attend the pep-rally launch and bath in the glow emanating from john-w and the grim emanating from rabbit.

  70. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2016 5:31 pm

    Historical and cultural deficiency

    Overlayed with with intelligence and spelling deficiency

  71. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 26, 2016 6:02 pm

    ,,former Liberal leader John Hewson addressed hundreds of people protesting in the Sydney suburb of Double Bay – minutes from Malcolm Turnbull`s harbourside mansion – calling on the prime minister to take stronger action on climate change.

    Yeah lets abolished coal fired power stations and run the country on windmills and tidal power.

  72. TB Queensland permalink
    June 26, 2016 7:08 pm

    Overlayed with with intelligence and spelling deficiency

    I think you meant … overlaid …

    ironyk … hey?

    Just sayin’ …

    Chuckle … 🙂

  73. June 26, 2016 7:16 pm

    l keep hearing the journo`s saying how exciting it is to be a `passenger` on the `blib-bus`, tho l`ve never heard them say who gets to drive it. l`d like a shot at driving the blib-bus, l reckon l could get him.

  74. June 27, 2016 10:44 am

    Do we only see what we want to see in our Social Media feeds? Dr Max Wilson talks about the social media filter-bubble:

    .

  75. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 27, 2016 10:47 am

    I hope you have the Rectinol handy, TB. The latest Newspoll will doubtless inflame your arse-grapes and sour your mood somewhat.

  76. June 27, 2016 10:49 am

    ASX 200 up slightly (0.2%), so still no end-of-times.

  77. June 27, 2016 11:00 am

    Looks like Cameron’s not the only party leader under pressure:

    ‘The resignations from the shadow cabinet feature on the majority of Monday’s front pages. The Daily Mirror reports Jeremy Corbyn faces a bruising fight to retain his leadership, while the Times suggests the resignations were sparked by a belief he is not capable of winning a snap general election. The Daily Mail describes it as a “chaotic day in which the Labour Party went into meltdown“‘

  78. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 27, 2016 11:48 am

    Maybe Labour have realised, post Brexit, that an old-school dinosaur socialist is not the best person to be leader.

  79. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2016 11:51 am

    The latest Newspoll will doubtless inflame your arse-grapes and sour your mood somewhat.

    Two massive assumptions based upon another, sb …

    1. I’m lucky enough not to suffer from hemorrhoids* despite the years of laying on my back on cold, concrete workshop floors.

    2. I have a sour mood … I have a sour mood?

    3. The fat lady sings … not yet … sunshine … ~(;-)

    *not something I ever think about … obviously it was on your mind … 😦

    From your link …

    It must be said the polls have been pretty confusing throughout this campaign. They’ve been bouncing either side of 50 on a two-party preferred basis and not really reflecting what the parties have been hearing on the ground.

    It’s been a long campaign, voters have been disengaged and it could be some methodology but the ABC has done its own investigation recently and the general consensus is Labor is looking like it will win 10 seats which leaves it 10 seats short of winning government.

    But it is only Monday – there is still five days to go until the polls close.

  80. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 27, 2016 12:07 pm

    Yes the polls are confusing. For the first time in my life i will not be putting my local Liberal member No 1. This person will go second so will get my preference. But this person was one of the 53.

    In the Senate i will put Labor and Greens towards the bottom but vote for Conservative parties egALA. as my first preferences

  81. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 27, 2016 12:13 pm

    Ah, TB it was just a gentle comment on your Sense of Humour Gauge.

    “But it is only Monday – there is still five days to go until the polls close.”

    Seems to me that people are seeing right through Bull Shittin’s Mediscare lies. He should either have left it until this week so people had less time to wise up or he should have stuck to half-truths rather than indulge in outright lies.

  82. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2016 1:45 pm

    He should either have left it until this week so people had less time to wise up or he should have stuck to half-truths rather than indulge in outright lies.

    Well, it is in the “timing”, sb … election black-out starts Thursday (I think) …

    BTW … Ah, TB it was just a gentle comment on your Sense of Humour Gauge.

    I knew that – ya grumpy old bastard …

  83. June 27, 2016 2:26 pm

    ASX up 0.7%. The sun came up this morning and might even do so tomorrow.

  84. June 27, 2016 2:46 pm

    ‘Virtually every week, a letter would appear in one of the broadsheets signed by a collection of hoary-headed grandees: industrialists one week, green activists the next, actors the next.

    ‘The message was always the same: “Little people! We’re terribly important, and we’re ordering you to vote Remain!” It wasn’t Project Fear so much as Project Sneer.

    ‘Well, we saw what voters thought of that when the first big Leave tally was declared in Sunderland.’

  85. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 27, 2016 3:07 pm

    I’ve heard it said that the Brexit “Leave” vote was the fault of uneducated riff-raff. The problem with that theory is that it doesn’t really explain why Scotland voted to stay.

  86. Walrus permalink
    June 27, 2016 3:34 pm

    “The sun came up this morning and might even do so tomorrow.”

    Yeah as some have pointed out there was no plague of frogs or mass slayings of all newborns.

    QBE Insurance looking pretty cheap around $10.24

  87. Walrus permalink
    June 27, 2016 3:36 pm

    “I’ve heard it said that the Brexit “Leave” vote was the fault of uneducated riff-raff. ”

    I saw and heard a reort from London where they interviewed a barista who slammed all those uneducated people outside of London for the vote.

    I didn’t realise London baristas were so highly educated.

  88. Ol' Sancty permalink
    June 27, 2016 3:47 pm

    Hello there.

    I was alerted via Twitter that there may exist some concern at my ability to enjoy one of my favourite pastimes, sailing and snorkelling on the Great Barrier Reef. That concern is not without foundation. Since the arrival of Li’l Master Sancty over 5 years ago, and the subsequent arrival of Li’l Miss Sancty a couple of years later, my capacity for such expeditions has been somewhat limited (read non-existent). There is, however, some good news. I am in the market for a new (old) 28ft yacht which will be moored at Hamilton Island. It still won’t be good enough for Mrs Sancty but, sadly, nothing ever is (why DO those nongenderstereotypical types want to get married anyway? I can’t work it out for the life of me.)

    My information is that despite the apocalyptic warnings earlier this year, complete with Tim Flannery’s testimony that he “knows what death looks like” the coral bleaching event was limited to an area north of Cooktown and the remainder of the reef is good as gold. And the 22% that was affected will return to health as it always has.

    As to #brexit, whoever thought that the various very different cultures of Europe could operate under a single unit of currency was profoundly stupid. And yes, that is a lot of apparently very educated people. May all the European nations exit end that monumentally stupid anti-human experiment.

  89. Walrus permalink
    June 27, 2016 4:05 pm

    “As to #brexit, whoever thought that the various very different cultures of Europe could operate under a single unit of currency was profoundly stupid. ”

    Exactly !

    Good to hear from you by the way.

  90. June 27, 2016 4:43 pm

    G’day Sancty. 😉 Now we just need a visit from toiletboss and it’ll be like old home week.

  91. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 27, 2016 5:03 pm

    Hilarious – Dogs are the best people:

    Which brings us to Tony Windsor and a beautiful border collie-cross named Mack.

    Mack belongs to Windsor and his wife Lyn, and last Monday he starred in ABC’s Four Corners program about the battle for the NSW electorate of New England, where Windsor is hoping to unseat Nationals leader Barnaby Joyce, by fair means or foul.

    To help with the latter, hard-left unions including the Maritime Union of Australia and GetUp! have moved into the electorate to wage the mother of all anti-Barnaby campaigns in aid of Windsor. …

    Which brings us to Mack, the insightful border collie. He was easily the most handsome dog at the Great Nundle Dog Race, and appeared on screen initially refusing to sit when Windsor commanded him.

    Mack then urinated on Windsor’s leg, which was either a gesture of anxious submission or non-verbal how-to-vote advice for New Englanders.

    This prompted some red-faced bluster from Windsor as his loyal wife Lyn went into plaintive damage control: “He’s weed on everybody! He’s weed on me!”

    But wily Mack’s message was precisely targeted for the cameras.

    Of course, you don’t need a dog to tell you what kind of person Windsor is.

  92. June 27, 2016 5:22 pm

    profoundly,,,stupid. And yes, that is a lot of apparently very educated people,,,,,#isn`t it always tho, inflicted with education degrees and not an ounce of common-sense or wisdom

    very,,,different cultures of Europe,,,,,#the `cultures` weren`t the problem so much as the `economic` and `governmental` differences, governmental being like italy that fails run a taxation system that works and has had a revolving-door parliament, economic being basket-cases like greece, remember `pigs`. Of course failing members were going to piss-off the populations of original members once it became the `look-how-big-we-are` club.

    # ,, nice to see`ya snacy, enjoy the boats (-:

  93. Cofunctions permalink
    June 27, 2016 5:47 pm

    (Purely for rhetorical argument’s sake, and by one method of ready-reckoning, the core agenda would seem almost-characteristically clear; SSM represents a fantastic opportunity for the state to (re)initiate, to (re)endorse, and to (re)entrench hitherto-(un(der)recognised, unilateral private rites and private lore as universally-binding, effectively-incontestible public rights and public law, via appropriat(iv)e, appropriat(iv)ely-drafted legislation(s):

    “As prime minister, I made the decision that it would be easier for Australians who feel strongly about same sex marriage to accept a decision – either way – if it were made by the whole people and not just by the parliament.

    So after the next election, if the government is returned, MPs who support same sex marriage will be asked to finalise a bill to make it legal, along with protections for people and for religions that disagree. That bill will then be put to the people at a plebiscite.”)

  94. June 27, 2016 5:55 pm

    Hello snacty… 🙂

  95. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2016 6:04 pm

    I think you’re all forgetting the people that wanted to stay 48% and the people that didn’t think their vote “counted” and they wouldn’t leave EU … and probably missing the real reason for the Exit vote … something politicians here need to be more conscious of …

    … I quote – from a relative (who lives on the south coast of Sussex) …

    You have probably heard, much against our wishes, UK is leaving the EU. The Brexit vote was won in the industrial NE which has been neglected for years. The normal strong Labour vote there has turned away and voted to leave. Not surprising, they have been abandoned by all political parties for way too long. I feel sorry for the region, they are hoping for better times but I fear not in the near future.

    Locals always have a different perspective …

    The story below is very interesting … very … there are none so blind … but there have been many people misled during the campaign …

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/25/view-wales-town-showered-eu-cash-votes-leave-ebbw-vale

    G’day James … nice to see yer still floating about … 🙂

  96. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2016 6:12 pm

    … will be asked to finalise a bill to make it legal, along with protections for people and for religions that disagree.

    That’s not “equality” … that’s discrimination …

    MPs who support same sex marriage will be asked to finalise a bill to make it legal,

    But the MPs who don’t support same sex marriage don’t get a look in? That’s a wormy basket of trickery if ever I saw one …

    Still they won’t privatise Medicare that’s a relief … LOL!

  97. June 27, 2016 6:59 pm

    Not,,,surprising, they have been abandoned by all political parties for way too long,,,,,

    # ,, and it seems to be playing-out in canoeland, xeno-team is looking like being the big winner from canoeland voters in both `senate` and `house`, while greenz and indis will be growing elsewhere.

    # ,, the major problem as l see it is replicated here, first, all the `economic-benefit` promises with those benefits only going to the few. Second, `long-distance-idiots` making decisions that effect folks locally. We in Aust have the identical problem, usually referred to as `the-canberra-state-blame-game` where the buck is continually passed between them, and leaving the voter with `NO-recourse`. Really, wouldn`t most states(citizen) here be better-off ditching canberra and not having them muck-up each states decisions.

  98. Tom R permalink
    June 27, 2016 7:00 pm

    They won’t privatize medicare 😂

    Everything they have said and done points to this exactly as Labor have claimed

    I see snacty has pulled his head our of the sand simply so he can plunge it back in further than it ever was

    Unsurprisement

  99. June 27, 2016 7:29 pm

    How gracious.

  100. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2016 7:32 pm

    Your majesty?

  101. June 27, 2016 7:34 pm

    oh teabags, reportland are tailing me again, fake-jobs for 457-visa scam

  102. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 27, 2016 7:47 pm

    Hello James.

    Did you hear that lots of left types thought Tim Flannery’s “I’ve seen the Barrier Reef with my own eyes” research was widely applauded.

    These days it seems the “I’ve seen it with my own eyes” method of research is quite acceptable to Tom R and his mates.

  103. June 27, 2016 8:08 pm

    how are those 20+ seats going team-cheerer???? tonights news reckons canoetown will dump kate ellis and go teabag

  104. June 27, 2016 8:32 pm

    the silence of the team-cheerer this time round has been deafening hasn`t it folks, under a blib opposition (instead of albo) the team seems set to gain the much cherished role of opposition, with the benefit of ditching albo and plib for greenz and ellis for a teabag, around 2019 the blib opposition will build future `successes` ditching seats for xeno as well (-:

  105. Tom R permalink
    June 27, 2016 8:37 pm

    You’ll have to expand on that claim a bit yomm, as it is scientists highlighting the state of the reef

  106. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 27, 2016 8:43 pm

    Tim Flannery pops wh to the Barrier Reef with a camera was, goes diving and declares that it’s just about dead

    He saw this with his own eyes, he said

    James makes a point based on his own observations and that wasn’t acceptable to you

  107. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 27, 2016 9:06 pm

    You’ll have to expand on that claim a bit yomm, as it is scientists highlighting the state of the reef

    I suspect it is scientists telling lies trying to maintain their grant funding to survive. It is amazing what bad things you can find when your job depends on it.

    Furthermore perhaps not even lies. Humans are so biased and can unconsciously can bias their results to what they think the answer should be.

  108. June 27, 2016 9:12 pm

    the reef condition mirrors the blib opposition condition, they`re `about` 1/4 fcuked now, and will be `more` fcuked in the future (-:

  109. Tom R permalink
    June 27, 2016 9:41 pm

    Flannery AND all the scientists vs snacty.

    Lols at yomm

    Are you truly saying that all those scientists (and David Attenborough) are running a conspiracy

    I’m surprised you didn’t bring tehUnions in on it too.

  110. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2016 9:47 pm

    James makes a point based on his own observations and that wasn’t acceptable to you

    Didn’t James say he hadn’t been able to get to the reef for fatherly reasons …?

  111. Tom R permalink
    June 27, 2016 9:51 pm

    Now there’s a conspiracy TB

  112. June 27, 2016 9:53 pm

    on my abc 4corners talkbull and blib edition, it was a big yawn, more of the same horse-shit offering yet again, another non-choice in 5-days time

  113. June 27, 2016 11:41 pm

    on my abc, just saw penny wong on latelineland, she finally called-out the teabags on their bullshit plebiscite, said talkbull wasn`t a leader and he wouldn`t stand-up to his own RWNJ`s in his party, and there has been no details released of `any` plebiscite so far, she thought it was designed by the RWNJ`s cory, abetz, and ultimately talkbull knows his RWNJ`s will `sabotage-it`, it was quite a strong performance by wong (who looked a bit pissed-off, upset) and l really think it is a shame she didn`t have the nads to do this on qandaland back in the jooLiar days, when it would have had a good effect, instead of toe-ing the jooLiar line-of-the-day

  114. June 28, 2016 7:18 am

    This is one of the few occasions where I understand what Teabag is saying and agree wholeheartedly.

  115. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 28, 2016 9:14 am

    Penny Wong thinks the people can’t be trusted with a democratic referendum because some of them might say mean things. Yet it seems like only yesterday when, as part of the Gillard ministry, Senator Wong herself opposed gay marriage . Now it seems that people who hold that view exist only to be mocked and vilified by the morally superior elite. What a stinker Penny is – a moron, a hypocrite, a posturing poseur all rolled into a taught little turd-ball of hatred.

  116. TB Queensland permalink
    June 28, 2016 9:15 am

    This is one of the few occasions where I understand what Teabag is saying and agree wholeheartedly.

    Actually Tanya Plibersek was pretty good on the bit of Q&A I saw last night … Cormann continues to make me cringe every time he opens his mouth … does anyone believe his dribble … ?

    Interesting little interactive at the bottom of this article …

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/sarah-ferguson-puts-malcolm-turnbull-and-bill-shorten-under-the-microscope/news-story/b7e800105da117fd1b74c970f1d0e4d9

    ++++++++++++++++++

    Didn’t James say he hadn’t been able to get to the reef for fatherly reasons …?

    Someone did mention it was like “the good old days” >>>

    I chuckled at this too … I was alerted via Twitter … his majesty called?

  117. Walrus permalink
    June 28, 2016 9:37 am

    “Flannery AND all the scientists vs snacty.”

    Umm…………….No

    You dont need to be a scientist to be able to tell if something is dead or not

  118. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 28, 2016 10:00 am

  119. Norwegian Blue permalink
    June 28, 2016 10:06 am

    (‘E’s dead, that’s what’s wrong with it! No, no, ‘e’s uh,…he’s resting. Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I’m looking at one right now.)

  120. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 28, 2016 10:09 am

    I recall that James made a comment that he’d been diving on various parts of the reef. He passed on his observation and was ridiculed.

    Tim Flannery says – I’ve seen it with my own eyes – and he’s credible

  121. TB Queensland permalink
    June 28, 2016 10:20 am

    Let’s get a couple of things straight, ToM …

    1. Tim Flannery is a Dickwit …

    2. James is not a scientist

    3. While James has been struggling with fatherhood and Flannery has been making a bigger twit of himself – many scientists from around the world and locally – “other” than Flannery (or James) – have seen, surveyed, analysed and summarised their findings …

    The Great Barrier Reef is in trouble …

  122. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 28, 2016 10:22 am

    Why it’s time to bring on a hung parliament:

    What about the 8,469 children Rudd/Gillard locked up? That article confirms to me that voting Labor is a religion. And a false one at that

  123. TB Queensland permalink
    June 28, 2016 10:23 am

    You’ve lost me this time … M …

    Are you suggesting that the reef will recover by itself or will just die more slowly?

  124. True Blue permalink
    June 28, 2016 10:24 am

    (I must admit, I, too, was surprised by the instant Flannery-inspired controversy; especially as it seemed to involve a relatively simple exercise in distinguishing: ‘I recall seeing <1% of the Reef with mine own eyes, therefore 100% of the reef seemed/seems/was/is as good as rose-tinted-gold, per that ad hoc sampling method and its protocols, if any’ vis-a-vis ‘–>100% of the Reef, and reefs, have been sampled, per the GBRMA aerial survey and its protocols, and this <1% of Reef is exemplary of the kind of good-as-white-gold state in which c.22% overall of the Reef, and its reefs, are found to be in; less, or more, or much, much more, depending on latitude, and GBRMA Reef trisectioning'; but, now, apparently, perhaps, it's slightly more complex than I'd initially been led to believe.)

  125. TB Queensland permalink
    June 28, 2016 10:25 am

    That article confirms to me that voting Labor is a religion. And a false one at that

    Deleted …

  126. Walrus permalink
    June 28, 2016 12:36 pm

    How amusing…………………..

    Seems the English Twitterati didn’t even bother to vote………………

  127. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 28, 2016 12:50 pm

    I see Tony Windsor is in the news about something he may have done when he was at school. I do not like Windsor but bringing up things so long ago is a low act. Beats me why anybody goes into politics

  128. Bother permalink
    June 28, 2016 12:51 pm

    (Seems the English Twitterati didn’t even bother to vote………………

    That’d make matters a bit (squ)iffy, then; why, it’d almost be fraudulent, or manipulative at the very least, to claim any kind of decisive majority for Brexit; say, by claiming c.38%>=50%+1; hypothetically speaking.)

  129. June 28, 2016 1:10 pm

    crikey,,,,,,,,neither a minority government, nor the mining tax, nor a 30% company tax rate, discouraged investors,,,,,,#chuckle

    # ,, the blubbering twit screeched bullcrap when l told you folks the junk-job number had hit 31% ,, Last night TV talking-head reckoned it was 40% but included `contractors` (which probably meant `sham` contractors too) l am waiting to see at what level `roy` will end-up agreeing, my bet is the junk-job numbers are rising still, and the 457-frauds shown on reportland are helping drive the junk-job numbers.

  130. June 28, 2016 1:28 pm

    (Ahoy Matey! Captain T.Flannery (according to some) pilots a Tanker involved in delivering regular cargoes of battery-acid to the reef-region for `G.R.Eeenz-Shipping International` under the command of Admiral B.Brown.)

  131. June 28, 2016 1:48 pm

    (Holy Britannia! ,,,,,,Seems the English Twitterati didn`t even bother to vote,,,,,, Hint, Abstain.)

  132. Walrus permalink
    June 28, 2016 1:50 pm

    Labor Party hero Eddie Obeid found guilty of Misconduct in Public Office.

    Gee that came out of the blue………………… LOL

    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/verdict-eddie-obeid-found-guilty-of-misconduct-in-public-office-20160621-gpo8xz.html

  133. Walrus permalink
    June 28, 2016 1:51 pm

    “Hint, Abstain”

    OK so they abstained. Which means they have even less of a right to argue against the vote

  134. June 28, 2016 3:06 pm

    whether it is `team-go` or `team-stay` or `team-abstain`, they `all` made their choice, and bleating about the result seems a little silly (because you didn`t get your way)

  135. TB Queensland permalink
    June 28, 2016 3:13 pm

    Which means they have even less of a right to argue against the vote

    Indeed, wally!

    Or blame those who voted for the result!

  136. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 28, 2016 3:38 pm

    So Windsor is a genuine private school bully. No surprise there.

  137. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 28, 2016 3:48 pm

    Labor Party hero Eddie Obeid found guilty of Misconduct in Public Office.

    What i do not understand is why some mud does not stick to Bob Carr? He appointed Obeid

    Bjelke Peterson had some corrupt Ministers and he paid for it.

  138. June 28, 2016 4:10 pm

    ASX down 0.6% today. Nobody jumped out the window in Collins St. Maybe tomorrow.

  139. June 28, 2016 4:20 pm

    Reports of the Great Barrier Reef’s demise are greatly exaggerated.

  140. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 28, 2016 4:33 pm

    So Windsor is a genuine private school bully. No surprise there.

    I don’t like Windsor but i also do not like the way he is being treated. Going back to what people may or may not have done when at High School is below the belt. Why would anybody go into politics if what you did at school comes out?

  141. Walrus permalink
    June 28, 2016 4:40 pm

    “ASX down 0.6% today”

    QBE dipped below $10 briefly…………………I couldn’t resist………just a few

  142. Walrus permalink
    June 28, 2016 4:54 pm

    “Or blame those who voted for the result!”

    What I find profoundly amusing is that……………..

    The British citizens who can vote have just voted to Brexit and keep their English born Head of State

    The Scottish citizens who can vote might vote to leave and cut ties with their and cut ties with their English born Head of State

    The Northern Irish citizens who can vote might vote to leave and cut ties with their English born Head of State

    American citizens who can vote will soon be voting for a Head of State who must be an American born citizen

    Yet all Australian citizens who can vote are banned from voting for an Australian citizen born here or otherwise to become their Head of State

  143. June 28, 2016 4:55 pm

    Reports of the Planet`s Roundness are greatly exaggerated. Amen.

  144. TB Queensland permalink
    June 28, 2016 5:05 pm

    So Windsor is a genuine private school bully. No surprise there.

    Yep I’m afraid he was … encouraged as a CHILD to oppress younger children at the private school he attended – part of the “policy” I read … later joining the NATIONAL Party (ultra conservative) …

    Luckily he became an INDEPENDENT … and saw the error of his ways …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yet all Australian citizens who can vote are banned from voting for an Australian citizen born here or otherwise to become their Head of State

    Didn’t know you were a Republican, wally … neel, will love that …

  145. TB Queensland permalink
    June 28, 2016 5:07 pm

    Reports of the Planet`s Roundness are greatly exaggerated. Amen.

    Which nursing home are you in, tbagz … and you wonder why people have no idea what you’re talking about sometimes?

  146. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 28, 2016 5:15 pm

    Yet all Australian citizens who can vote are banned from voting for an Australian citizen born here or otherwise to become their Head of State

    The English don’t get to vote for their head of State. It is appointed by birth. I guess if they wanted a vote to remove the monarchy they could arrange one. But affection for the monarchy seems high.

    I think the monarchy is useful for the Brits. At the very least it is a tourist attraction. Also when some disaster occurs they get a member of the royal family turning up rather than a politician.

    For us it is not as useful. The main problem is what to replace it with and nobody can agree on that.

  147. June 28, 2016 5:18 pm

    lf Britannia was smart (history shows it usually isn`t) they would move to unite lreland in this time of peace, as north-ireland too, wanted to remain in teh-eu. This could be a win-win-win-win-win situation. 1.north ireland happy, reunified island, get off `their` island, and stay off 2.teh-eu happy 3.north ireland happy, still in teh-eu 4.republic ireland happy reunified 5.britannia extracts itself from the island of mess in a manageable fashion.

    When it comes to scotland, britannia should do all it can to support its independence and off-loading to teh-eu. The win-win-win will stack-up better here too.

  148. TB Queensland permalink
    June 28, 2016 5:26 pm

    The more I think about this election Turnbull is rooted … (gut feeling stuff) …

    If, as I suspect, the LibNits scrape in … with a minority …

    … they will still have a hostile Senate …

    … and Labor will be closer to winning the next time (maybe with Plibersek?) …

    … because the Liberal “policies” (really just “ideas”) won’t actually stop the budget rot … but they will increase the family budget rot …

    … Morriscum is really out of his depth and the more I see of TurnAbbott he’s just an actor playing a part badly, that’s scripted and directed by the RWNJ …

    … if Labor do happen to get home, they too will have a minority government but their policies are better scripted to suit the majority of the population … IF they stick to the script they will be hard to shift in four years …

    And Abbott is still able to rear his ugly head in the next four years … just ask, neel …

    Just musin’ …

  149. TB Queensland permalink
    June 28, 2016 5:29 pm

    1.north ireland happy, reunified island, get off `their` island, and stay off 2.teh-eu happy 3.north ireland happy, still in teh-eu 4.republic ireland happy reunified 5.britannia extracts itself from the island of mess in a manageable fashion.

    And I thought, neel, had limited understanding of the history of Great Britain … especially the Irish Troubles …

  150. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 28, 2016 5:35 pm

    if Labor do happen to get home, they too will have a minority government but their policies are better scripted to suit the majority of the population

    Well the majority of the population locked up 8,469 children last time. How many do you think the ALP will lock up if they win the election?

  151. Walrus permalink
    June 28, 2016 6:02 pm

    Civil War anyone………………………?

    Geoffrey Robertson QC :

    “MPs are entitled to vote against it and are bound to vote against it, if they think it’s in Britain’s best interest. It’s not over yet,”

    “MPs will have to do their duty to vote according to conscience and vote for what’s best for Britain. It’s a matter for their consciences. They have got to behave courageously and conscientiously.”

    “Democracy in Britain doesn’t mean majority rule… it’s the representatives of the people, not the people themselves, who vote for them.”

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/it-s-not-over-yet-top-legal-expert-says-brexit-vote-has-no-force-whatsoever-and-mps-will-try-to-a3282071.html

  152. Walrus permalink
    June 28, 2016 6:14 pm

    Oh dear……………..I hope Jamie Oliver and all the other Lefty luvvies are not looking in our direction………..

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1348325/pro-eu-celebrity-luvvies-like-kate-beckinsale-and-jamie-oliver-join-chorus-of-super-rich-remainers-bemoaning-brexit/

  153. June 28, 2016 6:21 pm

    By all means TB, as you imply, it`s much better for britannia to have a pissed-off north-island on their door-step and return to their explosive habits, maybe they can teach scotland.

  154. TB Queensland permalink
    June 28, 2016 6:44 pm

    “MPs will have to do their duty to vote according to conscience and vote for what’s best for Britain. It’s a matter for their consciences. They have got to behave courageously and conscientiously.”

    “Democracy in Britain doesn’t mean majority rule… it’s the representatives of the people, not the people themselves, who vote for them.”

    Nor here … I hope people consider the waste of $160 million could actually be!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Once again, tbagz – I did not “imply” anything … I grew up in the 1950’s in the UK … and as an adult I understand the awful history of what the English ROBBER BARONS did to the Irish … particularly in The Potato Famine!

    We were advised not to go North when we visited in ’97 and were very, very, very quickly ushered off the ferry when we first arrived in Ireland …

    Religion played a big part too … god luvs the katiks… hey?

  155. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 28, 2016 6:54 pm

    Yeah!

    All those katilk rubber barrons that imposed katilikism on the poor people of island

  156. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 28, 2016 7:54 pm

    Leigh Sales struggles with discussion related to economics.

  157. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 28, 2016 8:14 pm

    So are the accounts of Windsor’s bullying less worthy of reporting than Abbott’s wall punching?

  158. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 28, 2016 8:32 pm

    So are the accounts of Windsor’s bullying less worthy of reporting than Abbott’s wall punching?

    Interesting to see what happens. I suspect the media will rally around Windsor and let it die. Something they never did with Abbott.

    But the record for gong back a long way goes to David Marr writing an article about what John Howards father may or may not have done in 1927.

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/the-secret-howard-plantations/2006/06/10/1149815326249.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap2

    How some politicians don’t lose their temper is beyond me

  159. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 28, 2016 8:53 pm

  160. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 28, 2016 9:23 pm

    “…Interesting to see what happens. I suspect the media will rally around Windsor and let it die. Something they never did with Abbott…”

    BS

    The Murdoch media refused to criticise abbott at all, the journos refused to ask any hard questions of him, they let him do daily stunts in high vis at lib friendly businesses and then let him walk away without taking any questions! Didn’t that nonsense go on for about one or two years? Abbott was spoon fed to the electorate because murdoch wanted his kickbacks and no NBN.

    The media downplayed abbott’s lunatic ways and sold him to the public as a half way decent person. Some of us knew his vainglorious character from the start, in the end, his weirdness was there for all to see, it couldn’t be hidden, he was shown to be totally unfit and incompetent for the job.

    Legacy? How do you defend a military and corporate takeover of the country and jackbooted fascism?

  161. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 28, 2016 9:40 pm

    his weirdness was there for all to see, it couldn’t be hidden, he was shown to be totally unfit and incompetent for the job.

    Anything that drives you lefties nuts must be OK. Abbott had his problems but he was a decent man. Turnbull is the first person to lead the Coalition in my lifetime who loves himself more than the country so i will not be voting Liberal No 1 for the first time.

    Abbott did not lock up 8,469 children. The ALP/Greens did. That tells me all i need to know what is in the heart of a leftie.

  162. Tom R permalink
    June 28, 2016 9:41 pm

    I see in the dying days of an 8 week campaign the libs have finally admitted this year’s budget is still 2014s

    I didn’t give Labor much hope a couple of days ago but now……

  163. TB Queensland permalink
    June 28, 2016 9:51 pm

    So are the accounts of Windsor’s bullying less worthy of reporting than Abbott’s wall punching?

    What wall punching? Abbott denied it …

    To answer another way … the wall punching was alongside a woman by a man … at uni …

    Windsor’s alleged bullying was at a school when he was “directed” by teachers at that school …

    So YES – less worthy …

  164. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 28, 2016 10:05 pm

  165. June 28, 2016 10:16 pm

    Network-7 (mark-riley???) was the only one that managed to show what a true imbecile rabbit was before election, remember the clip when rabbit was glaring and nodding for several minutes without even managing a three word slogan. That was the true exposure of the rabbit zombie, and only true imbeciles could be impressed with it. Which explains Limited-News.

  166. June 28, 2016 10:28 pm

    I,,,didn’t give Labor much hope a couple of days ago but now,,,,,

    # ,, oh team-cheerer, my team-cheerer (-: your silence has been deafening (-: this time next week, we will all be discussing how the team has yet again failed to `clean-house` (-: some good news for you tho, there is genuine teabag-panic that they too are worried about not retaining `outright` govt.

    # ,, Go.Watermelon (-:

  167. June 29, 2016 9:51 am

    FTSE 100 up 2.64%. Dow Jones up 1.57%.

    Is that the Horsemen of the Apocalypse I hear? No, wait. It’s a horse and buggy.

  168. Walrus permalink
    June 29, 2016 10:15 am

    If I was part of a “family” of arsehole like this I’d want out too

    “Mr Lamy, a Frenchman who was also the EUs trade negotiator for five years and now heads the Notre Europe…………………. says he believes ……….

    Johnson is partly motivated by an Oedipus complex, a desire to rebel against his father Stanley who was a senior EC official with soft-left greeny tendencies who worked closely with Mr Lamy……..

    “My impression is that there is an Oedipal reaction in Boris’s stance. He wanted to be the nasty part of the family and he succeeded.”

    Read more: http://www.afr.com/news/pascal-lamy-warns-britain-to-expect-tough-brexit-talks-20160628-gptkx6#ixzz4CvHc0u5w
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  169. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 29, 2016 10:54 am

    I’d dearly love to see Malcolm lose this election but I can’t get beyond the way the Andrews government has unleashed the UFU thug-mongrels on volunteer fire-fighters.

    There is no doubt that Bull Shitten is similarly indebted to his union paymasters who are funding his Mediscare lies. And there is no doubt that Shitten will govern like a unionist and sell out the people of Australia to union bosses. That’s the way things work in Unionland.

  170. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 29, 2016 11:49 am

    “So YES – less worthy …”

    So Windsor, in fifth form, slashed the fingers of a first form boy with a knife – should he apologise?

    Did the teachers make Windsor take a knife to the younger boy – is that your argument? More likely Windsor is just another sadistically self-absorbed leftist politician. At least Wilkie apologised for his Nazi bullying.

  171. Walrus permalink
    June 29, 2016 11:49 am

    Now I know why Green Groups are so pro public transport.

    It kind of fits in with their personal hygeine levels……………..

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/the-disgusting-truth-about-germs-on-public-transport-20160627-gpsw2x.html

  172. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 29, 2016 12:09 pm

    Selling out the CFA volunteers was about the clearest example of ALP / union duplicity I can recall.

  173. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 29, 2016 12:16 pm

    So know Bothways Bill wants to have a bit each way on the same sex marriage plebiscite. He seems to be both flexible and versatile.

  174. Buying In permalink
    June 29, 2016 12:48 pm

    (Not interested in the on-the-ground consequences of Brexit; not interested in the under-the-surface consequences of business-as-usual; not interested in public health consequences of transforming universal healthcare into user-pays healthcare; not interested in the humanitarian component of missions with military elements, or basic obligations under international law; not interested in a FICAC; not interested in fire risk, fire safety, firefighter safety, or fire forward-planning; not interested in basic equality under law, with or without manufactured consent for plebiscites reinforcing discrimination; not interested in discussing how corporate tax cuts will necessitate future regressive imposts; not interested in much, really, other than not-barracking?)

  175. Walrus permalink
    June 29, 2016 1:07 pm

    That’s interesting. Malcolm has made a surprise visit to the notionally Labor seat of Barton which is currently held by the LNP but was expected to go back to the ALP.

    Barton covers the area just south of Sydney Airport (the Botany Bay area) and includes some affluent and lower middle class areas. Main ethnicities are Greek, Italian, Chinese.

    The ALP are running a “parachuted” by Head Office former pretty ordinary performing ALP minister ( in the former corrupt state ALP government) against the LNP member.

    Perhaps some internal polling turned up a pleasant surprise for the LNP

  176. June 29, 2016 1:12 pm

    ‘”m worried Brexit has made me ageist,” a friend said, following the shock of the referendum result on Friday morning. “I saw this older couple in the street and just felt this sudden, enormous wave of fury towards them and their generation. It was almost physical.”’

  177. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 29, 2016 1:28 pm

    “not interested in fire risk, fire safety, firefighter safety, or fire forward-planning;”

    And here was I thinking for a moment that you might have a fucking brain.

  178. June 29, 2016 1:49 pm

    “The resignation of Prime Minister David Cameron has thrown the Conservative majority into turmoil, but a revolt within the minority Labour Party against its leader, Jeremy Corbyn, is also ongoing. It is an ugly reflection on Labour and the left in general that it took a failed plebiscite on Europe to finally wake the party up to what a noxious, paranoid, graceless figure their leader truly is … It wasn’t Corbyn’s conspiratorial thinking, his anti-Semitism, his flirtation with violent autarky, or his apologies for terrorists that robbed Labour of confidence in their eccentric leader. It was his failure to campaign hard enough to preserve European subsidies that did him in. That fact alone exposes how truly deep the rot within the British left goes.”

  179. Brane Drane permalink
    June 29, 2016 2:16 pm

    “Over to Commentary…. So, basically he is moving from a blog with neoconservative leanings; to a full on neocon blog. Nice.”

  180. June 29, 2016 3:41 pm

  181. Walrus permalink
    June 29, 2016 4:09 pm

    Remember I said the if the ALP fucks Sydney around on the WestConnex Motorway they will lose the election in Western Sydney.

    Well this has absolutely blown up Talkback Radio today and is also on FM Radio……..

    “LABOR is stalling the start of construction on the WestConnex road project by refusing to allow the federal government to sign final ­approval because of the election caretaker convention.

    The delaying tactic is costing $750,000 a day in contract penalties for the NSW government, with the total payments on the shovel-ready job already at $20 million thanks to the ALP’s stalling.

    The federal Department of Environment recommended on May 31 that final approval be given for the NSW government to start work on the $15 billion Western Sydney ­motorway. WestConnex is considered the state’s most crucial road ­infrastructure project and would cut Western Sydney commuter travel times by up to half an hour.

    However, Labor has been caught using the caretaker provisions of the election campaign to stall its start.

    Correspondence obtained by The Daily Telegraph shows federal Environment Minister Greg Hunt wrote to Mr Shorten’s shadow environment minister Mark Butler on May 31 seeking his endorsement for ­immediate sign-off on final approval………”

    Mr Butler wrote back two weeks later claiming he wouldn’t allow it go ahead in caretaker mode because it would commit an incoming government to the project ”

    So another $20M down the toilet just to save Anthony Albanese in the inner city

  182. TB Queensland permalink
    June 29, 2016 4:23 pm

    Did the teachers make Windsor take a knife to the younger boy – is that your argument?

    It wasn’t even the question and at the moment its “alleged” … and quite honestly I don’t GAFF either way …

  183. TB Queensland permalink
    June 29, 2016 4:38 pm

    An industry insider said it was not yet clear if Mr Cross’ departure signalled a new approach for the NBN Co, and a backflip for the Government, but engineers behind the project were critical of the current network.

    “There’s more chance of finding rocking horse (poo) in the corridors of the NBN than finding an engineer who supports a multi-technology mix over copper,” the insider said.

    http://www.news.com.au/technology/national-broadband-network-chief-architect-quits-the-day-before-federal-election/news-story/ea13256de6a000579bfcee46853b488d

    It would be funny if it wasn’t so serious and such a waste of taxpayers hard earned – just to prove an ideological point … and FAIL!

    MALfunction really is an accident waiting to happen …

  184. New Life For Astroturf permalink
    June 29, 2016 4:43 pm

    (Do diligent accountants usually write blank-checks due billion-dollar big-deals?; and other personnel secrets of tradecraft.)

  185. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 29, 2016 4:54 pm

    Engineers always want things to be over engineered. Just recall how the ALP was critical of the ‘gold plated’ power and electrical distribution network.

    ‘Over engineered’ was the criticism. Engineers are inclined to over engineer things and that’s why they don’t have final sign off on projects, there is always review for cost effectiveness.

    Engineers understand engineering but they’re not At interested in cost efficiency

    NBN is the contemporary version of the gold plating the ALP was so critical of.

  186. Walrus permalink
    June 29, 2016 4:57 pm

    Firstly its not a blank cheque and it (or similar) have been planned for many many years and it is a big deal as it links up (and widens) another motorway and links Western Sydney to the airport directly and will then be able to at a later stage link up to the F6 extension which is now in planning stage and if having builders and bean counters on its main board makes it a big secret then I wish there was more of it.

  187. Walrus permalink
    June 29, 2016 5:01 pm

    “… and quite honestly I don’t GAFF either way …”

    Seems TB is quite OK with violence and abuse against children.

    Maybe TB should have been a Catlick Priest……………….?

  188. June 29, 2016 5:01 pm

    “As for reasons to vote for Brexit: there are many, but one stands out. The European Union is not a meaningfully democratic body. Members of the European Commission—the EU’s powerful executive arm—are not appointed by simple majority action in the European Parliament; likewise, members of the European Commission are not removable by simple majority action in the European Parliament. Had the Remain Camp and the EU’s leadership put forward a real programme to make the Commission subject to normal, parliamentary democratic controls, then a majority of the U.K. electorate might very well have voted to continue with and in the wider European project.”

  189. Walrus permalink
    June 29, 2016 5:12 pm

    Now this is highly illustrative of what the EU really is

    Let’s talk about all that hot air around Carbon Dioxide………………….

    “It is perhaps the most outlandish of the European Union’s excesses; a £130 million travelling circus that once a month sees the European Parliament decamp from Belgium to France.

    Over the course of the weekend, some 2,500 plastic trunks will be loaded on to five lorries and driven almost 300 miles from Brussels to Strasbourg.

    On Monday, about 1,000 politicians, officials and translators will then make the same journey on two specially chartered trains hired at taxpayers’ expense.

    A few thousand more will go to Strasbourg by other means, as the European Parliament switches from Brussels, its permanent base, to its “official” home in northern France.

    For the first time, the full detail of this “madness”, contained in official European documents, can be disclosed today by The Telegraph – and the price to taxpayers is astonishing. …………….”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/10565686/The-farce-of-the-EU-travelling-circus.html

  190. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 29, 2016 5:20 pm

    Here’s what TB said: “Windsor’s alleged bullying was at a school when he was “directed” by teachers at that school …”

    Here is what I asked TB: “Did the teachers make Windsor take a knife to the younger boy – is that your argument? “

    TB replied with: “It wasn’t even the question and at the moment its “alleged””

    Both TB and I agree that it was “alleged”. However, TB excused the alleged behaviour saying that Windsor was “directed” by teachers at that school.

    Now TB doesn’t even want to own his own argument. I wouldn’t either if I was TB – I’d just say that I don’t GAFF. Bullying a younger boy with a knife should be ignored if it can’t be used to bash Tony Abbott. Everyone knows that!

  191. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 29, 2016 5:24 pm

    “There’s more chance of finding rocking horse (poo) in the corridors of the NBN than finding an engineer who supports a multi-technology mix over copper,” the insider said

    If i understand the English language that sentence means they prefer copper over MTM.

    To the question of do people want FTTP, the answer is yes. But if they were told it would cost $500/month what would the answer be?

    If people were asked would they like a Rolls Royce what would the answer be?

  192. Walrus permalink
    June 29, 2016 5:31 pm

    No doubt brought to our streets by the CFMEU

  193. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 29, 2016 5:40 pm

    Another reason to Brexit from the EU bureaucratic gravy train: 10,000 European Union officials better paid than David Cameron

  194. June 29, 2016 5:44 pm

    Accountancy based ,,,,,,review for cost effectiveness,,,,,, will always impress easily impressed cubicle dwellers and deep-throaters of boardrooms, even tho history show the ,,,,,review for cost effectiveness,,,,,, is behind most commercial air-crashes and doomed the Titanic before it left the dock.

  195. TB Queensland permalink
    June 29, 2016 5:47 pm

    Seems TB is quite OK with violence and abuse against children.

    You really are an abusive prick, wally!

    With a really nasty mind … and so has your catlik mate … <Bullying a younger boy with a knife should be ignored if it can’t be used to bash Tony Abbott. Everyone knows that!

    I don’t agree with violence of any sort and fought it all my life – all my fkn life – even your kind!

    This is the gotcha question from ToM … So are the accounts of Windsor’s bullying less worthy of reporting than Abbott’s wall punching?

    I replied … Abbott was a n adult and should have known better – Windsor was a child and under the duty of care of teachers …

    Legally the events would be treated differently …

    … not realising that, the bully pack would salivate and attack again … in hindsight I should have known better …

    And you lot question a “placid” debate over same sex marriage … you prove that wrong every day …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    To the question of do people want FTTP, the answer is yes. But if they were told it would cost $500/month what would the answer be?

    They would say bullshit … cause that what that statement is …

    If i understand the English language that sentence means they prefer copper over MTM.

    Yes, neel, it is worded very badly but it is a link to a news.com.au article 😉 … what it means is a MTM “delivered” over copper not fibre …

  196. TB Queensland permalink
    June 29, 2016 5:50 pm

    No doubt brought to our streets by the CFMEU

    Still making shit up … it could be brought to you by the Liberal Party … they seem to have plenty of money for covert ops …

  197. Walrus permalink
    June 29, 2016 5:57 pm

    “You really are an abusive prick, wally!”

    LOL…………….you only just noticed………hehehehehehehehehe……!

  198. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 29, 2016 6:01 pm

    How To Tell Whether Brexit Is A Good Thing:

    Is the British people’s vote for Brexit a good thing or a bad thing? How do you tell? It’s easy! Just look at the list of personages and pooh-bahs who have gone into full meltdown. And then look at the ridiculous statements they make to try to instill fear in everyone else and maybe get this thing reversed. They’ve become completely unhinged!

  199. Walrus permalink
    June 29, 2016 6:14 pm

    From your Link Splatter

    “………..This losing side, sometimes known as the “elite,” is the coalition of the “leaders,” the academics, the journalists, the crony capitalists, and the government functionaries who believe that they and others like them are the experts and they should run the world with no accountability, and issue the orders to the productive people who pay the bills.

    Most of the members of this coalition currently live off some kind of government salary or grant or handout, and the rest of them expect to do so at some point. Honestly, are these people you want to be aligned with? Not me! And I guess I was not the only one………..””

  200. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 29, 2016 6:16 pm

    TB: “I replied … Abbott was an adult and should have known better – Windsor was a child and under the duty of care of teachers …

    What you actually replied was “Windsor’s alleged bullying was at a school when he was “directed” by teachers at that school …” (emphasis added).

    There is a big difference between those two statements. It takes a particularly sadistic prick to cut a boy five years younger with a knife. Your attempt to blame the teachers for that is complete bullshit.

  201. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 29, 2016 6:16 pm

    So there we have it –

    1.Windsor is a private school bully, who apparently, as a 17 year old used a knife on 11year olds.
    2. Over engineering infrastructure is fine, unless it is the ‘gold plated’ power grid

  202. June 29, 2016 6:18 pm

    While kneeling in front of the zipper, corporate fluffers may like to recall the 1999 ,,,,,,,review for cost effectiveness,,,,,,, decided commercial airline pilots didn`t really need to be able to lock the cockpit door.

  203. June 29, 2016 6:31 pm

    The bottomless well of stupid flowing strongly today.

    ,,,,,,Engineers always want things to be over engineered,,,,,,

    # ,, Hint, engineers design`n build to `customer` specifications.

  204. TB Queensland permalink
    June 29, 2016 6:54 pm

    It takes a particularly sadistic prick to cut a boy five years younger with a knife.

    I agree … but I was asked to draw a distinction … and I did – a legal one … one was an adult responsible for his actions and attacking a woman … one a child (legally) under the direction as defined by the original article by the school teachers …

    You choose to play emotional bullshit … just to goad … enjoy … won’t work …

    As I said I really don’t GAFF …

  205. Tom R permalink
    June 29, 2016 6:55 pm

    All this attention from the msm over windsor and something he may or may not have done years ago as a minor.

    But no interest at all over the libs paying for their re-election via Parakeelia?

    Looks like it’s going to be close Saturday night. Either way, whoever wins, is on for some tough times I think.

  206. Tom R permalink
    June 29, 2016 6:57 pm

    The bottomless well of stupid flowing strongly today.

    it’s only going to get deeper in the coming days I reckon 😉

    eg “Over engineering infrastructure is fine, unless it is the ‘gold plated’ power grid”

  207. June 29, 2016 7:02 pm

    kneel,,,,multi-technology mix over copper,,,,,

    # ,, yeah, l agree with TB kneel, Limited-News is arse-fcuking you, my bet is the word `fiber` has been swapped for `copper`, as both copper and the multi-mangle-mix is `yesterdays` tech and `inferior`-tech.

  208. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 29, 2016 7:09 pm

    “As I said I really don’t GAFF …”

    Obviously. Although I had thought better of you.

  209. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 29, 2016 7:11 pm

    Well I was only quoting (your) Julia Gillard in referring to the unnecessary and expensive “gold plated” infrastructure.

    Although it must have seemed like a good idea to the engineers at the time. It just wasn’t regarded as cost effective by a career politician/labour lawyer.

    That happened because public sector engineers enjoyed engineering power infrastructure beyond the point of being cost effective.

    That’s what happens in when engineers run public sector infrastructure programs.

  210. TB Queensland permalink
    June 29, 2016 7:34 pm

    As I said I really don’t GAFF …”

    About your … manipulative comments … or just bloody mindedness … I should have expected it of you … sucked in again … last time …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Now to the Brexit …

    As most of you know I have relatives both in the North and South of UK (and what you won’t know -living in Brittany too) … this is an extract from my relative in the South …

    Everything over here is absolute chaos, pound dropped almost 10%.

    Labour Party in complete disarray with a vote of no confidence in the leader and he refusing to move.

    Conservative Party selecting new leader who looks likely to be a buffoon …

    … race hatred rearing its head and no plan for the future.

    I feel sorry for a lot of the people in the deprived areas, many of them voted out on the lies being told by the Brexit people and now they are learning many of them won’t happen.

    Its also opened up huge divides between North and South, young and old and those with an education and those without. Guess we are in for difficult times.

    Be careful what you wish for …

  211. Tom R permalink
    June 29, 2016 7:42 pm

    “gold plating” infrastructure is not the same as over engineering something yomm, it’s a simple, greedy grab for cash.

    Of course, I’d have thought you’d understand that.

    Which is why I held your comment (which wasn’t Gillards) as a prime example of prime stoopid.

  212. Tom R permalink
    June 29, 2016 7:42 pm

  213. June 29, 2016 7:48 pm

    Now`ya claiming jooLiar is `quote-worthy` #Giggle

  214. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 29, 2016 8:29 pm

    I see. When exactly did all the gold plating of the power infrastructure occur?

  215. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 29, 2016 8:57 pm

    TB, you weren’t “… sucked in again …”. You made a silly comment and, as usual, you couldn’t bring yourself to back away from it. Windsor wasn’t “directed by the teachers at the school” to cut the much younger student.

    And you wouldn’t even answer my simple question of whether Windsor owed his victims an apology. All you have done is to twist and spin so that you can bash Abbott and not criticise the Gillard Government’s coalition partner Windsor. What Windsor did to the much younger boy was cruel and vile and he should man up and apologise – at the very least. But you just avoided that question.

  216. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 29, 2016 9:39 pm

    …Did the teachers make Windsor take a knife to the younger boy – is that your argument? More likely Windsor is just another sadistically self-absorbed leftist politician. At least Wilkie apologised for his Nazi bullying…

    Doesn’t make any difference with private school bullying whether you dress left or right, the common element is private schooling and private school culture ‘some call it ‘tradition’]

    … “I saw this older couple in the street and just felt this sudden, enormous wave of fury towards them and their generation. It was almost physical.”’…

    Yes, young australians feel the same way about the climate change clean up debt that will be left for them and the negative gearing and superannuation/tax avoiding rorts that have their taxes paying for the wealth creation of older australians.

    …The ALP are running a “parachuted” by Head Office former pretty ordinary performing ALP minister ( in the former corrupt state ALP government) against the LNP member…

    According to the Sydney Morning Herald, Varvaris in parliament is “perhaps best known for falling asleep and accidentally voting for Labor”.[wiki]

    Rob Oakeshott takes out election ads on Alan Jones and Ray Hadley shows
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jun/29/rob-oakeshott-takes-out-election-ads-on-alan-jones-and-ray-hadley-shows?CMP=share_btn_tw

    …Oakeshott, who is challenging the National MP Luke Hartsuyker in Cowper, told Guardian Australia he had decided to announce his candidature late – on 10 June – owing to the expected campaign against him in sections of the media.

    “I decided to roll myself up into as small a ball as possible – just be a normal member of the community – and then go late and hard in order to neutralise the expected rubbish from commercial media,” he said.

    “Otherwise, as is now on full display, [media] come in and muddy the waters. If it was me versus the Nats, it would be a very different strategy. But it’s not. It’s me versus the Nats, 2GB and the Oz. Thankfully, the majority in the community can see it for what it is.” …

    …“Some media are getting personal and the question we need to be asking is who is talking to who? Who is paying who? What are the kickbacks to make them go in so hard for a certain side of politics?

    “This is a serious unanswered question that is unhealthy for democracy. I am just a bloke in a community that expresses ideas through politics – that’s it. So this top-shelf demonising raises a lot of questions. I might have run away before but that is exactly the reason I am running now.”

    Oakeshott said he was concerned that the political debate was controlled by media voices and the community was ceding the “public square”, which has traditionally encouraged debate.

    “This is therefore a battle for the ownership of the public square,” he said. “I am a traditionalist in that I think community should be heard.

    “Commercial media – media for profit – are challenging this, and trying to overtake community voices because they prey on dividing community to suit their own commercial interests.” …

    Pork barrelling ‘r’ us

  217. June 29, 2016 10:00 pm

    lt seems your relo`s are getting swept-up in the teabag-panic teebz, (which is what it is) it will take two years or so for Britannia to `exit` (eventually)

  218. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 29, 2016 10:01 pm

    “the common element is private schooling and private school culture “:

    Of course. All private schools are the same according to the plug-stupid leftist view of the world. Stereotype, pontificate, masturbate – the very essence and the raison d’etre of the chattering classes.

  219. June 29, 2016 10:20 pm

    guardian,,,,,,media are getting personal and the question we need to be asking is who is talking to who? Who is paying who? What are the kickbacks to make them go in so hard for a certain side of politics? This is a serious unanswered question that is unhealthy for democracy,,,,,,

    tweet,,,,,,Nothing says `stable government` like senior ministers refusing to say how they`ll vote on a plebiscite,,,,,,,

    # ,, we only have 48-hours left to enjoy the teabag-panic as Lib`n Lab feverishly swap preferences between themselves armchair, did you enjoy the teabag-funded fakeTradie advert as much as l did, l`m sure it has actually helped xeno, greenz and indi`s instead of the teabags (-: (-: (-: (-: (-:

  220. June 29, 2016 10:54 pm

    hey teebz, volkswagon decision in teh-usa, VW just got arse-fcuked big-time on both the `consumer-cheating` aspect, AND the `environmental-fraud` aspect.

  221. June 30, 2016 8:26 am

    ‘#SafetyPin campaign shows solidarity with immigrants and EU citizens against rise of hate crime: A Twitter user is rallying for Britons to wear a silver pin on their person in support of the victims of post-referendum hate crimes.

    ‘Twitter user @Cheeahs has suggested that people simply wear an empty safety pin on their breast as a badge to symbolise solidarity against racism – and to let any potential victims know that the wearer is friendly face.’

  222. June 30, 2016 8:30 am

  223. June 30, 2016 8:39 am

    ‘FTSE 100 erases post-Brexit losses as buying bonanza fuels rebound

    ‘A buying bonanza fuelled the FTSE 100’s remarkable rebound, erasing all of its post-Brexit losses in just two days.

    ‘London’s benchmark index enjoyed its best day in almost five years, soaring 219.67 points, or 3.58pc, to a two-month high of 6,360.06.

    ‘The rebound follows an 8.7pc plunge in the immediate aftermath of the Brexit vote. The blue chip index now trading up 0.5pc since the referendum outcome was announced.’

  224. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2016 9:47 am

    What a stuff up! This just about sums it up … from another Pom, living here …

    Let me see if I have got this right!

    If Britain wishes to continue to have favourable access to the EU, where 70% of its exports go it will, post Brexit, have to:

    1. Contribute to the EU budget,

    2. Accept free movement of people from Europe and,

    3. Be bound by EU regulations.

    All this with no input to EU policy and possibly without Scotland.

    A Pyrrhic victory for Brexit?

    A pyrrhic victory for Boris Johnson and the tories …

  225. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2016 9:53 am

    You made a silly comment and, as usual, you couldn’t bring yourself to back away from it.

    I made a comment based on what both a man and a child were accused of … violent bullying … from a legal perspective …

    You chose to turn it into a moral argument accusing me of condoning violence … now that’s a silly statement if you have spent so much time here reading my comments …

    In fact from gutter political to gutter comments from gutter commenters … ironic …

  226. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 30, 2016 9:56 am

    A pyrrhic victory for Boris Johnson and the tories …

    Do you have any stats about how people voted? I thought the Tories were against leaving. The leader of the Tories, Cameron was against and has now resigned.

    I suspect it is working class people who wanted to leave

  227. Walrus permalink
    June 30, 2016 10:04 am

    “Let me see if I have got this right!”

    To whoever you have quoted TB………………….

    Well no you dont you Leftist fucking retard !

    Unless the USA,Canada, Norway, Switzerland, South America, all of Asia, all of Africa, Australia, New Zealand et al also

    1. Contribute to the EU budget,

    2. Accept free movement of people from Europe and,

    3. Be bound by EU regulations.

    But they dont ……………do they ?……………….you fucking dickhead

  228. Walrus permalink
    June 30, 2016 10:06 am

    “All this with no input to EU policy and possibly without Scotland.”

    Unlikely.

    Spain wont let it happen because of Catalonia seeking independence and then being a member of the EU as well separate from Spain

  229. Walrus permalink
    June 30, 2016 10:07 am

    “I suspect it is working class people who wanted to leave”

    Not quite right NoS……

    I suspect it is the majority of those who bothered to actually vote who wanted to leave

  230. Walrus permalink
    June 30, 2016 10:10 am

    Tony Windsor………………….

    “Peta Credlin always made a nice cup of tea during hung parliament.”

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/credlin-tea-comment-a-compliment-windsor/news-story/b81cd22e08c5825f753d71b583161081

  231. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 30, 2016 10:20 am

    “Peta Credlin always made a nice cup of tea during hung parliament.”

    Imagine if Abbott had said that

    I suspect it is the majority of those who bothered to actually vote who wanted to leave

    Not a good answer. I suspect a lot of working class people could see their jobs being taken by Eastern Europeans who wanted to leave. I think the Tories wanted to stay. Cameron certainly did.

  232. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2016 10:43 am

    Just tried Cluey Voter for Senate … (122 candidates in Qld) worked for me …

    http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/diy-howtovote-cards-to-give-voters-control-in-just-a-few-clicks-20130830-2sup6.html

  233. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2016 10:53 am

    I suspect it is the majority of those who bothered to actually vote who wanted to leave

    Not quite right … either … lot of misleading statements from pollies confused many voters … and many “working class” people in the North felt abandoned … whether true or false – perception is as powerful as the truth sometimes …

    I think the Tories wanted to stay. Cameron certainly did.

    Yes, neel, he did in the end … Boris just played for himself and fuck everyone else …

    Pretty hard to comment if we don’t live there I think …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    To whoever you have quoted TB………………….

    Personal email I’m afraid, wally …

    But they dont ……………do they ?……………….you fucking dickhead

    I’m assuming that’s directed at the author (won’t pass it on) … but we don’t actually know what the outcomes will be … that’s the irony … how can you vote for something that no-one actually knows?

    Having said that its a bit like elections tho’ … hey?

  234. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 30, 2016 11:00 am

    Yes, neel, he did in the end

    What do you mean “in the end”? I think from beginning to end the Tories/Cameron wanted to stay. I bet you lots of working class people wanted to leave because they could see greedy Eastern Europeans taking their jobs.

  235. Walrus permalink
    June 30, 2016 11:06 am

    My bet is the UK wont implode (devaluation of the GBP helps immensely) but Brussels will

  236. Walrus permalink
    June 30, 2016 11:11 am

    “I’m assuming that’s directed at the author”

    Correct……..I could never be so vicious to you TB………….LOL

  237. June 30, 2016 11:47 am

    Talkback radio in Melbourne has gone into meltdown with CFA volunteers ringing to express their sadness and upset at Chief Fire Officer Joe Buffone’s resignation this morning. This won’t help Labor’s chances on Saturday.

  238. Walrus permalink
    June 30, 2016 11:53 am

    I expect TomRoll will be here shortly to condemn the highest echelons of the CFA for their lack of foresight

    And the ex-minister of course LOL………………..all of whom are obviously wrong

  239. June 30, 2016 12:25 pm

    I expect to see CFA members out in force at the polling places on Saturday advocating for grass-roots volunteerism.

  240. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2016 1:06 pm

    Correct……..I could never be so vicious to you TB………….LOL

    That’s a relief … o_O

    That CFA thing seems very, very stupid timing on the surface?

  241. June 30, 2016 1:46 pm

    11 Countries Gearing Up to Strike Trade Deals With Britain:

    ‘While Brexit doom-mongers have been focussing on the challenges of keeping access to the EU’s single market (16% of global trade – less once we’re gone), they forget there is a world elsewhere.

    ‘Green shoots are already emerging, as other countries start to realise the possibilities of free trade deals with a newly-liberated Britain, less than a week after the referendum.’

  242. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 30, 2016 1:56 pm

    made a comment based on what both a man and a child were accused of … violent bullying … from a legal perspective …

    Really? The corroborated behaviour of Windsor would be criminal. Is punching a wall criminal behaviour?

    How many standards do you have TB?

  243. June 30, 2016 2:02 pm

    Sportsbet is offering the following odds about “Sworn-In Government”: Coalition $1.08. Anyone brave enough to back Labor can avail themselves of $8.00! Or, if you fancy a Hung Parliament you can get $5. ($1.15 for No Hung Parliament.)

    Come on TB. What’s your humour-meter telling you?

  244. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 30, 2016 2:47 pm

    I suspect some of the British exist vote has to do with open borders deadbeat ALP supporters who say- lets fly them in.

    Don’t bother training local people. Lets drop the borders and fly fulling trained people in.

    I have seen what has happened in the first profession with no borders. Science is the first profession with no borders. There are 20,000 scientists from Eastern Europe and China who want a job in Australia. Worse the people in power fly these people in because they will work for half wages.

  245. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 30, 2016 2:58 pm

    Another CFA Chief gone. But don’t worry Danny, it’s important to appease your union mates. Far more important than protecting the safety of Victoria.

    Danny Andrews is a hack in the mould of Bill Shorten.

    On Thursday morning Mr Buffone stepped down, saying: “I believe the agreement will tie the hands of those who are obliged by law to protect the safety of Victorians.”

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/cfa-crisis-chief-fire-officer-joe-buffone-quits-20160629-gpv46z.html#ixzz4D2GSUy00

  246. Walrus permalink
    June 30, 2016 3:38 pm

    “Come on TB. What’s your humour-meter telling you?”

    LOL !

    I’d suggest it’s telling him to run a hot bath, jump in,……… then slash his wrists

    ALP not doing itself any favours to win back seats just days out from election. In the seat of Macarthur (south west Sydney) ALP volunteer allegedly (via witnesses) pushed to the ground an elderly Liberal volunteer.

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/macarthur/battle-heats-up-between-volunteers-in-macarthur/news-story/42fbdb8f2385badc08e5c69968fcd194

  247. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2016 4:12 pm

    Really? The corroborated behaviour of Windsor would be criminal. Is punching a wall criminal behaviour?

    How many standards do you have TB?

    One … and obviously a bit more knowledge than you …

    As a child (Windsor wasn’t an adult) but he was allegedly over ten years old (today that is chargeable) and he could have been charged with a criminal offence (I stand corrected I understood that he had to be over 21 in those days) … but with no complaint no charge of course …

    FYI, you don’t actually have to make contact with anyone for a charge of assault … just the threat is enough … and I reiterate … Abbott was an adult … and as I understand it witnesses to the threat have come forward … but no complaint therefore no charges were laid at the time …

    And finally my answer to your question was objective … I support neither pollie … as I said WGAFF anyway … except the gotcha team …

    As if I support fkn violence of any kind … that’s not just silly – its downright insulting (more than you will ever realise) … and deliberately so to anyone reading this …

    And statute of limitations would have kicked in decades ago …

    Fin

  248. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2016 4:17 pm

    ToSY

    Come on TB. What’s your humour-meter telling you?

    Its fine … the fat hasn’t started to sing yet … and knife edge polls have a way of suddenly falling over …

    I’ll stick to my last comment – that you obviously didn’t read …

    Re:

    June 28, 2016 5:26 pm

  249. June 30, 2016 4:24 pm

    “Its fine … the fat hasn’t started to sing yet … and knife edge polls have a way of suddenly falling over …”

    Then $8 is a good price. The more you bet, the more you win!

  250. Walrus permalink
    June 30, 2016 4:41 pm

    “Then $8 is a good price. The more you bet, the more you win!”

    Yeah………go for it TB.

    Perhaps you’ll win enough to blow the pension assets test asunder never to darken Centrelink ever again

  251. £sd permalink
    June 30, 2016 5:12 pm

    (The more you bet, the more you win!

    Probably. Especially, if they are the punters and you are setting up House?)

  252. June 30, 2016 5:14 pm

    l think it is quite funny seeing `our` teabags being useful idiots for, Let me guess, Limited-News, and foaming over what school-kids did in the first half of `Last` century. #windsor (-:

  253. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 30, 2016 5:22 pm

    l think it is quite funny seeing `our` teabags being useful idiots for, Let me guess, Limited-News, and foaming over what school-kids did in the first half of `Last` century.

    Agree. But this is hard to beat. Fairfax/David Marr trying to trash John Howard for what his father may or may not have done in 1927

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/the-secret-howard-plantations/2006/06/10/1149815326249.html

  254. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 30, 2016 5:33 pm

    “I made a comment based on what both a man and a child were accused of … violent bullying … from a legal perspective …

    Actually, you suggested that the teachers “directed” Windsor to bully the younger student with a knife. And you call that a legal argument? Life must be grand on Planet Fucktard!

    And you think that a 17 year old (because he is a child) is not a sadistic cunt for using knife on a much younger kid. Well you must be a total fucking genius then, eh? Or maybe just too clever by half.

  255. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2016 5:59 pm

    Then $8 is a good price. The more you bet, the more you win!

    obviously still haven’t read my previous comment …

    It’s like talking to a bunch of bricks trying to build a wall …

    It does tell me one thing tho’ …

  256. Walrus permalink
    June 30, 2016 6:07 pm

    ROFLMAO………seems the UK Lefties cant even run their own newspaper……..

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/media-and-marketing/guardian-asking-readers-to-donate-money-to-continue-its-intelligent-journalism-20160630-gpv80k.html

  257. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 30, 2016 6:12 pm

    TB didn’t simply “suggest” teachers directed it – according to TB, it’s a fact –

    Windsor’s alleged bullying was at a school when he was “directed” by teachers at that school …

  258. Walrus permalink
    June 30, 2016 6:29 pm

    This is sure to fill Toilet with pangs of lust………LOL

    http://www.smh.com.au/video/video-news/video-national-news/gina-rinehart-sheds-40-kilos-20160630-4haqa.html

  259. Suggestions, Suggestions permalink
    June 30, 2016 6:29 pm

    (Or maybe just too clever by half.

    Probably. Or not even a quarter as smart as those who might think it’s a good idea to continue to ignore the most basic tenets of due process, even as they continue to make factually incorrect, prejudicial, and likely libelous assertions all of their own, very loosely based on untested allegations, if they were even that, published by Sharri Markson in the popular(?) press, as some kind of ‘legal argument’, on a blog.)

  260. June 30, 2016 6:42 pm

    “obviously still haven’t read my previous comment”

    Correct. Even if you think Labor is just a 50-50 chance of winning, that’s an even money chance, or 1 to 1. Whereas $8 is 7-1!

    Any Labor barracker worth their copy of Das Kapital should be having their house on young Billy Shorten becoming our next PM.

  261. June 30, 2016 7:36 pm

    For the life of me, I just can’t imagine how the Australian public are prepared to vote Talcum back in for a 2nd term despite everything he’s never stood for.

    The logic leaves me gobsmacked.

  262. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 30, 2016 7:38 pm

    The logic leaves me gobsmacked.

    Because they do not want to go back to locking up 50,000 boat people. As soon as Labor gets back in the people smugglers will start the boats again and Labor does not have the stomach to stop them.

  263. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2016 7:42 pm

    Correct.

    Politics affects millions of lives – hard working men and women and their children and grandchildren … betting on that is abhorrent …

    … and … as usual … ToSY …

    You miss the point, … MALfunction – won’t even be able to do that … malfunction …

    Bet the odds all you want … emphasis on YOU! Making money on the backs of others’ misery is Robber Baron thinking …

    This DD has actually made TurnAbbott’s situation worse than it was … just like the UK’s Cameron … political decision making is just not his forte …

    Put odds on Abbott’s attempt to return … after a stalling in the senate and many broken Turnbull promises …

    And Australia’s Brexregret …

    I’ll not be affected one iota by the results of this election … but millions of families will … by believing the lies … and once again suffering … to feed the ROBBER BARONS!

    Gloat while you can … the world keeps turning … nothing is new …

  264. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 30, 2016 7:44 pm

    Here’s 2 reasons –
    1. He’s not Abbott
    2. He’s not Shorten

  265. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2016 7:48 pm

    The logic leaves me gobsmacked.

    As I said, sreb, the fat lady is awfully quiet …

    The final poll may be interesting …

    I still reckon there may be thousands of pens sitting over Liberal and slowly shifting to Labor … and ………….. 1 …

    At least Saturday TV will be worth watching …

    And no matter the outcome and despite the most expensive smear campaign in Aussie history … Billy Shorten has done extremely well!

  266. June 30, 2016 7:48 pm

    “betting on that is abhorrent …”

    What utter crap.

  267. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2016 7:50 pm

    Here’s 2 reasons –
    1. He’s not Abbott
    2. He’s not Shorten

    TurnAbbott? Do you mean?

    Or can’t you remember “his” name?

  268. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2016 7:51 pm

    What utter crap.

    Why?

  269. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 30, 2016 7:52 pm

    Leigh Sales is making mice meat of Shorten and she hasn’t even tried to push him.

    Once a hack, always a hack.

  270. June 30, 2016 7:52 pm

    “As I said, sreb, the fat lady is awfully quiet …”

    She’s clearing her throat. I’m going to have a bet on Labor to win. The odds are too juicy to ignore. Plus, all the polls were wrong on Brexit don’t forget. I’m a contrarian investor.

  271. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2016 7:54 pm

    Once a hack, always a hack.

    I like Leigh Sales …

  272. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2016 7:54 pm

    I’m going to have a bet on Labor to win.

    GUFFAW!

  273. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 30, 2016 7:56 pm

    Me too TB, and I have no idea why she went so easy on Shorten, maybe she felt sorry for the prick

  274. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 30, 2016 7:57 pm

    But typically Shorten just crapped on when challenged about his “overreach” (ie dishonesty)

  275. June 30, 2016 8:01 pm

    I just backed Labor at $8. So, on Saturday night, I can’t lose. If Labor wins, I win. If the Coalition wins, Australia wins.

  276. June 30, 2016 8:02 pm

    “when challenged about his “overreach” (ie dishonesty)”

    I think the term now is “mis-spoke”.

  277. June 30, 2016 8:12 pm

    Just watching Turnbull on Kitchen Cabinet. Apparently his grandson calls him Baba. And he uses a mouli. “Do you think I should wilt something green into this?”

    *cringe*

  278. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 30, 2016 8:15 pm

    If the Coalition wins, Australia wins.

    Maybe not. It might be better for Australia if the ALP wins. Turnbull will just take the Coalition further left and we will end up with the ALP anyway.

    Better for Australia if the ALP wins and then we can all sit back and watch them destroy the country and then hopefully people will wake up and never vote for them again.

  279. June 30, 2016 8:22 pm

    “we can all sit back and watch them destroy the country”

    You mean like Daniel Andrews is doing to Victoria? No thanks. At least Turnbull is not a union lackey.

  280. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 30, 2016 8:32 pm

    Yep, Danny Andrews is really helping Victoria!

    While (former AMWU official) now Fair Work Commissioner is ushering in UFU control over volunteers, the (former ACTU official) President of Fair Work Australia is doing political backroom deals to soften the control.

    That “independent umpire” is just so “independent, and no wonder Danny is doing so well.

    AN EMAIL has exposed desperate backroom dealing between Dan Andrews’s top bureaucrat and Australia’s chief industrial judge to better protect Country Fire Authority volunteers, the very day the Premier was publicly claiming the 60,000-strong army had nothing to worry about.
    The emergence of Fair Work Commission president Iain Ross’s role in secret talks on the controversial union takeover of the CFA undermines the integrity of the process, after the Premier championed Mr Ross’s colleague, Commissioner Julius Roe, as an “independent umpire’’.
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/cfa-crisis-email-reveals-premiers-secret-cfa-side-deal/news-story/8a438d39be727f6b4c08fbd174b262b5

  281. Re Deployment permalink
    June 30, 2016 8:44 pm

    (Oh, I knoo. Ain’t it awful whenever some civilian plebs organise to demand that their principle-of-subsidiarity rights be respected by an overpaid bureaucratic elite kitted out in shiny uniforms and big hats; still, it’s interesting to see who thinks that their position is or isn’t compromised beyond redemption when just vetoing a partial ground-up challenge to absolute top-down authority is become practically impossible.

    Never mind, Malcolm will fix it; the professional firefighters on the ground are probably 30% overpaid, anyway; especially for cushie jobs, say, like responding to the Hazelwood Coal Mine fire, given that local volunteer bushfire veterans know the area best and naturally are best-equipped to take charge of the situation, no questions asked or consultations had.)

  282. June 30, 2016 8:58 pm

    l don`t think tinfoil`osy will be collecting on his bet this time teebz, that 7to1 will be for an `outright` blib-govt, blib will be`lucky` to make a watermelon-govt, and with 25% of voters claiming they won`t support either major team, maybe the result will even be a teabag-xeno govt (which has had the teabags cacking themselves over for weeks now)

  283. June 30, 2016 9:16 pm

    Geez. If you want some of the $8.00 youse had better hurry up.

  284. June 30, 2016 9:23 pm

    Just had a saver on Hung Parliament.

  285. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2016 9:32 pm

    I just backed Labor at $8. So, on Saturday night, I can’t lose. If Labor wins, I win. If the Coalition wins, Australia wins.

    Ya reckon …

    At least Turnbull is not a union lackey.

    Indeed not … just a Big Business and Extreme Right Wing lackey …

    Just had a saver on Hung Parliament.

    WoW! What a decision maker you are, ToSY …

    There used to be a popular saying … more money than sense …

    GUFFAW!

  286. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2016 9:33 pm

    … and with 25% of voters claiming they won`t support either major team,

    That;s an interesting %age … got a link?

  287. June 30, 2016 9:41 pm

    “WoW! What a decision maker you are, ToSY …”

    Yes. I can’t lose.

  288. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 30, 2016 10:02 pm

    I just visited Youtube and there was an ALP add on saying Turnbull was going to privatise Medicare.

    It was an official ALP add. The people involved in making that add should be in prison.

  289. Walrus permalink
    June 30, 2016 10:23 pm

    So Boris a advocate for Brexit now don’t want to be PM

    He now looks like the dog that caught the car and doesn’t know what to do with it

  290. Innsmouth Inn permalink
    June 30, 2016 11:00 pm

    (The people involved in making that add should be in prison.

    Not a privatised prison, I trust.)

  291. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 30, 2016 11:07 pm

    Just paid another visit to Youtube. Some lady said she was going to die if cervical cancer because of Coalition health policies.

    The party of deceit strikes again. Never met anything more deceitful than a ALP supporter

  292. June 30, 2016 11:52 pm

    credlin,,,,,,,,The problem for our country when an election becomes a choice between big party leaders perceived to be ”bad versus worse” is that voters look elsewhere.

    Unlike US voters who have primary campaigns, Australian voters can’t support insurgencies inside the main parties so express their dismay with politics-as-usual by voting for independents and minor parties,,,,,,,

    # ,, can`t argue with that, but for some reason Limited-News always needs a reference to teh-usa, which l think is a fetish

    ,

    credlin,,,,,and that’s why I think we are cruising for a total disaster in the Senate unless something changes.,,,,,,(#include some frighteners)

    credlin,,,,,,The most confident prediction anyone can make so far, with 25 per cent of voters opting for neither the Coalition nor Labor, is that the new Senate will be even more populist than the last.,,,,,(#l`d be more comforted if they linked that 25%, preferably to `roy`)

    # ,, and now, some MORE frighteners!

    credlin,,,,,,This should worry every Australian who elects a government to get on with governing because an obstructionist Senate means that securing the economic reform and budget repair our country needs will be harder than ever.,,,,,,

  293. July 1, 2016 12:09 am

    boris just announced he WON`T be the new teabag prime meddler

  294. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 1, 2016 8:22 am

    “The logic leaves me gobsmacked.”

    But for the actions of the Victorian government at the behest of Unions, particularly the attack on the CFA, I would vote for the ALP. Volunteerism is an important part of Australian society and should not be sacrificed to the wishes of a mongrel union no matter how much they have donated to the ALP.

    Shorten is similarly indebted to unions, if not more so, and we can expect similar bastard acts if he becomes PM.

    Unions now have massive political influence due to their financial clout and their ability to put boots on the ground to campaign. They are a cancer on Australian society. (And there is no way the Unions will allow Albo to become the ALP leader. As before, they will use their clout to keep Little Billy Two-Knives.)

  295. Walrus permalink
    July 1, 2016 8:43 am

    “And there is no way the Unions will allow Albo to become the ALP leader.”

    Albo in a fairly marginal seat, Tanya (the deputy) in the seat right next door, both from Sydney and both from the Left, ……………..and both open to onshore processing.

    Mmmmmmmmmmmm…………..looks interesting

  296. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 1, 2016 10:22 am

    …credlin,,,,,and that’s why I think we are cruising for a total disaster in the Senate unless something changes.,,,,,,(#include some frighteners)
    credlin,,,,,,The most confident prediction anyone can make so far, with 25 per cent of voters opting for neither the Coalition nor Labor, is that the new Senate will be even more populist than the last.,,,,,(#l`d be more comforted if they linked that 25%, preferably to `roy`)
    # ,, and now, some MORE frighteners!
    credlin,,,,,,This should worry every Australian who elects a government to get on with governing because an obstructionist Senate means that securing the economic reform and budget repair our country needs will be harder than ever.,,,,,,

    That’s music to my ears!
    I hope it does work out like that. perhaps the majors will realise that we are demanding political change, demanding a real democracy and that we need much more than they choose to give. It means the public does not trust either of the two majors to govern us as they see fit.

    Windsor’s alleged bullying was at a school when he was “directed” by teachers at that school …

    It’s not the person, it’s the schooling. The private school system’s ‘culture’ is what produces the pricks, they either fit in and go along with it, or they melt down and become the target for bullying.

    This article is about the english boarding schools, but australian elite schools follow the british ‘traditions’, tony abbott views the uk as his spiritual home.

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/jun/09/boarding-schools-bad-leaders-politicians-bullies-bumblers?CMP=share_btn_tw

    …It leaves them ill-prepared for relationships in the adult world and the nation with a cadre of leaders who perpetuate a culture of elitism, bullying and misogyny affecting the whole of society…

    …To change our politics, we’ll have to change our education system…

    Neoliberalism and ‘freedom for property rights’ politics is the cause of the xenophobia and fear based anti-immigration politics. Neoliberal economic policy should be he target of all the anger, not people.

    Pretending we can halt migration is a lie. But we can stop employers from abusing cheap foreign labour
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/30/migrants-workers-rights-migration-employers-cheap-foreign-labour

    …Open societies, whose citizens wish to study and holiday abroad, whose markets depend on capital and goods flowing across borders, cannot also live with the draconian policing required to close them to foreigners. Only totalitarian regimes have achieved that sort of control. To promise it, as Ukip and some on the right have, is to disappoint dangerously and give comfort to nationalism.

    The left needs to say that more loudly. To fudge it won’t do. Access to the single European market without free movement is not on offer. Even if it were, rejecting free movement would risk a return to the period before EU enlargement, which gave east Europeans the right to come and work in the UK, to a time when hundreds of thousands of foreign-born Europeans were in the country anyway but often illegally, and therefore with no rights. They came on tourist visas, on student visas, on temporary work schemes, and stayed…

    …Depriving foreign workers of rights does not stop migration, but it does create an environment in which employers exploit them as cheap labour and undermine the conditions of British workers, creating resentment and fear. The way to tackle it instead is to give all workers, regardless of origin, labour rights and to enforce them.

    Labour rights have been under sustained assault in the UK since 1979. One of the great myths of neoliberalism is that the market must be freed, but there has been nothing laissez-faire about the steady stream of new regulations introduced to prevent organised labour from exercising its collective muscle…

    Australian election 2016: Coalition’s promised tax cut from 1 July not possible, says ATO – politics live…
    …Xenophon warns of backlash ‘if political elites don’t listen’. Fairfax-Ipsos poll puts major parties at 50-50 with just one day to go, suggesting a hung parliament may be a live possibility after Saturday’s election…

  297. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 1, 2016 10:26 am

    The private school system’s ‘culture’ is what produces the pricks, they either fit in and go along with it, or they melt down and become the target for bullying.

    That’s a rather broad statement, got any evidence? or is it just based on observation? (like James’ re the barrier reef)

  298. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 1, 2016 10:49 am

    We vote tomorrow with this govt delivering higher unemployment, a collapse in business investment, falling company profits & higher debt

    Stephen Koukoulas really is shameless. Unemployment is unchanged and the budget deficits are unchanged.

    But this is a man who says debt does not matter unless we have a Coalition govt

  299. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 1, 2016 12:48 pm

    …That’s a rather broad statement, got any evidence? or is it just based on observation? (like James’ re the barrier reef)…

    You can’t study bullying culture in australia due to the fact that public schools have to take all children within their catchment area while private schools can pick and choose, they have no such requirement which will skew any statistics. Besides, what private school is going to advertise [or even acknowledge] their bullying stats or even their culture of bullying?

    I believe that if schools accept any taxpayer funding they should be compelled to conform to the same criteria as public schools.

    Our elitist private schools run on the long cultural history of their inherited british counterparts, look at the recent media attention given to the drinking and bullying scandals at the top private boys schools.

    Fagging was still evident in the 60’s and 80’s when I would imagine windsor was in his private school

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging

    General Election 2010: Nick Clegg’s fag had an easy ride
    As TV documentary -maker Louis Theroux reveals that he was Nick Clegg’s fag at Westminster, a fellow former pupil recalls the bizarre school rituals
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/election-2010/7607920/General-Election-2010-Nick-Cleggs-fag-had-an-easy-ride.html

    Authoritarian Schooling: A Catalogue of Damage compiled by David Gribble:
    http://www.authoritarianschooling.co.uk/index.php/my-secondary-education
    Fagging doesn’t happen any more, because even our traditional public schools have seen how unreasonable it is, but when I was at school it was part of the culture.
    We were beaten at Eton, too, in those days. We were not beaten by the teachers, but by the house prefects, the Library.

    Closed shop at the top in deeply elitist Britain, says study
    Elitism so embedded in Britain that it could be called social engineering, social mobility commission concludes
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/28/closed-shop-deepy-elitist-britain

    Elitism in Britain – breakdown by profession
    https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/aug/28/elitism-in-britain-breakdown-by-profession

    http://www.boardingconcern.org.uk/item.php?itemid=33

    http://woundedleaders.co.uk/books/wounded-leaders-the-psychohistory-of-british-elitism-and-the-entitlement-illusion/

    The new elitism of internships
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/feb/17/internships-elitism-conservative-auction

    Xavier snob’s bullying contained uncomfortable truths about our education system
    http://www.theage.com.au/comment/xavier-snob-exposes-private-schools-scorn-as-taxpayers-entrench-gap-with-public-counterparts-20151103-gkq6zq.html#ixzz4D7VeFqoS

    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/private-school-backlash-after-bullied-kids-told-to-stop-playing-the-victim-20160516-gow3vx.html#ixzz4D7HCFsfI

    …Brighton Grammar has been accused of victim blaming after it released controversial advice saying that some bullying victims were “passive doormats”, “whingers” and “loose with the truth”.
    It called on bullying victims to accept responsibility for their plight…

    Snobby parents rule key in school battle
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/snobby-parents-rule-key-in-school-battle/story-fn5sqiu3-1225887515724

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/private-school-scholarships-not-always-a-winwin-20160226-gn4pxi.html#ixzz4D7LMPmun

    …Instances of sexual harassment, such as girls being pressured to send nude photos, were glossed over by the school’s ‘boys will be boys’ mentality, and left me feeling profoundly upset and helpless…

    Rosie Waterand: ‘Private schools can be beautiful on the outside, ugly on the inside.’
    http://www.mamamia.com.au/rosie-waterland-writes-about-private-school-dick-heads/

    Did public school kids ever have a chance?
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-29/douglas-did-public-school-kids-ever-have-a-chance/4850542

    http://www.saveourschools.com.au/national-issues/the-price-of-privilege

    Ties that bind prove a private education has its awards
    http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/ties-that-bind-prove-a-private-education-has-its-awards-20101203-18jx0.html#ixzz4D7POXWyM

    How privilege rules over school funding
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/how-privilege-rules-over-school-funding-20130428-2imiu.html

  300. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 1, 2016 2:44 pm

    So who knows? Does the private system produce more bullies than the public? And it is generally accepted that the UK has a far more entrenched class system than Australia

  301. Thick And Thin Of It permalink
    July 1, 2016 4:39 pm

    (I don’t know; given the broadly-acknowledged nature of (in)discriminate, systemic culture(s) of objective abuse fostered by those who were effectively acting in loco parentis, it perhaps still makes as much sense that there were n+1 victims as there were n, (inter)relationally-speaking.

    Further, that a fundamental fault component, amounting to a subjectively or an objectively guilty mind, could or should be attributed to, or an admission of like demanded of, a probable +1 victim, as a means of approach to ascertaining systemic fault, and to attributing an objectively guilty mind to those who were ultimately responsible for cultivating a manifestly-dysregulated, Stanford-Prison-Experiment-esque microcosm, doesn’t seem all that nice per se, morally compelling in and of itself, especially given the select format of broadsheet broadside, or legally likely.

    None of which serves somewhat to explain a(n un)willingness to adopt an impressive social licence for enthusiastic piling(s)-on and role-enhancement(s) issuing from a gazetted outing, in context of hotly-contested terrain, I guess.)

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