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July 21, 2016

 

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  1. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2016 11:51 am

    No, no one ever thinks about me do they?

    How could you say such a thing yomm!

  2. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2016 11:52 am

    Oh, and just … cos

    http://www.pindex.com

  3. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 21, 2016 12:19 pm

    “No, no one ever thinks about me do they??”

    Of course we do. Who else would put up with this menagerie of moronic misfits? This is our spiritual home. Why else would we spend so many happy hours here posting bilious bullshit, blowing smoke out of our sorry arses and explaining our colleagues’ shortcomings to them in a frank and straight-forward manner. It will be a sad, sad day when this weird little community closes down.

    If you want us to send gifts please provide PO Box details.

  4. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 21, 2016 1:35 pm

    Albo, the factional hit-man, and identity politics:

    Leader of the Left faction in NSW Anthony Albanese is being accused of orchestrating the deal because of his “blind hatred” of Senator Carr, who supported Bill Shorten against him in the 2013 leadership ballot.

    “The use of Linda Burney as cover for this move against Carr is a sickening and callous exploitation of race to disguise a factional hit,” one senior member of the Victorian left executive told The Australian.

  5. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2016 1:45 pm

    Students Say A Story About A School Banning The Word “Girls” Is “Misleading Clickbait”

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/lanesainty/students-say-a-story-about-a-school-banning-the-word-girls-i?utm_term=.lh4NMbY4p#.bjXrkQ79v

    well DUH, it’s murdoch, of course it’s clickbait.

    Just like splatts story above.

    The libs have just created the largest ministry in the hopes of making the the factions happy while civil war lurks the corridors, and apparently, it’s Labor that has all the issues. Yes, the Labor that just re-elected Bill Shorten unopposed.

    Just remember, this trolling started with massola, who hasn’t got facts right once since he started his jihad against Shorten.

    But I’m sure he’s making sure his options at ltdnews are open when farfax finally kicks the bouquet

  6. July 21, 2016 2:12 pm

    “explaining our colleagues’ shortcomings to them in a frank and straight-forward manner.”

    This too, I find very satisfying..

    It’s a form of civic duty really.

  7. July 21, 2016 2:42 pm

    “It will be a sad, sad day when this weird little community closes down.”

    I’ll probably have a drink that day.

  8. TB Queensland permalink
    July 21, 2016 2:51 pm

    Nice sub-title for the blog, reb.

    About eight at last count …

    If you want us to send gifts please provide PO Box details.

    is someone going on a cruise?

    “explaining our colleagues’ shortcomings to them in a frank and straight-forward manner.”

    Colleagues! WTF?

    It’s a form of civic duty really.

    Civic fkn duty … providing a soap box for a bunch of old windbags …

    I’ll probably have a drink that day.

    I bet you’ve already had one? I’ll drink to that “clink” … 😀

    Ah well, back to work …

    retirement a state of work without pay; a misnomer for sitting around with old windbags and enjoying it; a misguided hope for a de-stressed after-life on the conveyor belt of life …

    Live long … and then ya die …

  9. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 21, 2016 2:52 pm

    Tom R, the Tele article (at least the one I looked at) said that the change had been “requested” not that the word “girls” had been banned.

    The fact that some moron teacher is requesting the elimination of gendered words is bad enough.

    If you get the hate-mongering Marxist and LGBTI fanatics out of it and let change happen over time in stead of demanding total change right now then something sensible might happen.

  10. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2016 2:59 pm

    Live long … and then ya die …

    Death death death, it’s all about death with ya

    “there are more things in heaven and earth that are dreamt of in your philosophy”

  11. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2016 3:05 pm

    The fact that some moron teacher is requesting the elimination of gendered words is bad enough.

    Can you show where even this is true?

    Assuming that the story has now been changed, as the original one was unequivocal.

  12. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2016 3:14 pm

    reading the comments from the original is as hilarious as it is disheartening

    They start off with ‘ban’, get pointed out that the story is bullshit, then continue on regardless, and, get the result I’m sure the novelist is looking for. They all want their little darlings to go a good, private (yet publicly funded) xtian school.

    Indoctrination of the blind AND stupid.

  13. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2016 3:17 pm

    haha, Conroys getting all Conrovian again. But this time, he’s right!

    news Labor Senator Stephen Conroy has obtained legal advice that the NBN company’s referral of whistleblowers to the Australian Federal Police was illegal, and has demanded that NBN chair Ziggy Switkowski resign from his post as a result and that the AFP cease its investigations into the matter.

    https://delimiter.com.au/2016/07/06/afp-nbn-raids-illegal-says-conroy-ziggy-must-resign/

    Keep twisting that knife, and keep the NBN on the burner until the next election, with malcayman front and center

  14. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 21, 2016 3:19 pm

    “Can you show where even this is true?”

    I looked at it yesterday and the allegation is that in a teachers’ meeting a couple of months ago a request was made to drop gendered terminology. I haven’t seen any rebuttal of that specific point.

    My view of all this is that there has been no ‘ban’ implemented yet but some demented mongrels are pushing for one.

    This is not much different to the call from the dogfuckers at the Teachers Federation:

    Teachers have been advised to no longer use the terms ‘mum’ or ‘dad’ and young boys are being encouraged to dress up as girls in new education guidelines.

    The instructions have been released by the NSW teachers’ union on ways to address LGBTI issues within the school environment, reported The Daily Telegraph.

    The latest guidelines for ‘non-gender-specific free play,’ come in the wake of a string of drastic political correctness measures taken by Australian schools.

  15. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 21, 2016 3:23 pm

    Free speech or hate speech?

    Good riddance to yiannopoulos. These right wing fascists are despicable racists, sexists and homophobes, they lower all social media interactions to the level of a young libs, young fogeys conference. People are victimised, bullied and harassed beyond belief.

    How a racist, sexist hate mob forced Leslie Jones off Twitter
    http://fusion.net/story/327103/leslie-jones-twitter-racism/

    Milo Yiannopoulos: Twitter banning one man won’t undo his poisonous legacy
    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/20/milo-yiannopoulos-twitter-ban-leslie-jones-bad-idea

    …It’s actually not that hard to see why Yiannopoulos is an icon for a certain gleeful, anarchic base who finds the language of progressivism alienating. He is gay but homophobic; he is Jewish but antisemitic; he despises feminism but once published a poetry chapbook about his childhood trauma which borrowed heavily from Tori Amos song lyrics. It’s a neat trick that lets Milo and his ilk accuse detractors of being the ones who are really trying to suppress gay voices when they criticize him.

    Beyond that, Yiannopoulos’s public performances promise his fans that you can have traits perceived to confer sociopolitical disadvantage yet still be part of a supposedly wealthy, unflappable elite; his identity factors let him market a kind of old-fashioned idea of power to other people who feel disenfranchised. It’s no coincidence that the first seeds of his wild fanbase were sown in video game culture, among young men who felt threatened by the perceived intrusion of progressive politics into their private, escapist power fantasies…

  16. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 21, 2016 3:34 pm

  17. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 21, 2016 3:37 pm

    “People are victimised, bullied and harassed beyond belief.”

    Yep. Anyone who dares differ from the fascist bully-boy hyenas of the left gets that treatment from the pack (and they are pack-animals). Like Sonia Kruger.

    Looks like Milo has got the left rattled when they have to resort to a permanent Twitter ban to try to shut him up.

  18. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2016 4:20 pm

    My view of all this is that there has been no ‘ban’ implemented yet but some demented mongrels are pushing for one.

    As I said, of course, now, after reading initially there was a ‘ban’, which has now been reworded to ‘advise’ your ‘view’ is precisely what the novelist desired.

    Of course, the reality is not even that, but, don’t let that get in hte way of your now fomented view

    But Guardian Australia understands there was never any instruction given to avoid use of “girls”, “ladies”, “women” or other gender-specific terms at Cheltenham Girls high school, and there was no basis to the Daily Telegraph’s report.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jul/20/teachers-at-sydney-high-school-never-told-to-use-gender-neutral-language?CMP=share_btn_tw

    I understand this link has already been up, so it won’t help posting it again.

    Perhaps some ribald Vogon Poetry is in order instead?

    “If miranda found a truth to tell
    You’d know for sure it’s cold in Hell
    Cos truth and her go just like
    Splatts second name upon a pike”

  19. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2016 4:25 pm

    The Unions are going Conrovian too.

    Are we heading Turkeys way. The police have become the libs political plaything, just as they have used the courts for over the years.

    Two more cases brought against the CFMEU by the Trade Union Royal Commission Police have failed in court in Brisbane this week.

    On Monday, CFMEU official Chad Bragdon was found Not Guilty of intimidating or obstructing a Commonwealth official and on Wednesday CFMEU official Mark O’Brien was found to have no case to answer in relation to obstructing a Commonwealth Official.

    CFMEU National Construction Secretary Dave Noonan said the decisions in the union’s favour in relation to cases launched by the Trade Union Royal Commission Police demonstrate once again, that the police is being used for political purposes.

    https://www.cfmeu.org.au/news/more-failed-cases-against-cfmeu-brought-royal-commission-police

  20. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2016 4:36 pm

    Free speech or hate speech?
    Good riddance to yiannopoulos

    He’s been shown the door 😉

  21. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 21, 2016 4:53 pm

    Political Correctness Goes Mad Resulting In Wild Outbreak Of Politeness
    http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/article/2016/07/21/political-correctness-goes-mad-resulting-wild-outbreak-politeness

  22. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 21, 2016 4:58 pm

    TomR, that cartoon is a message the left seem never to get – unless it can be applied to the targets of their hatred. That is precisely why leftists who try to take over meetings they don’t like are fucking fascists – they have no right to other peoples’ platforms and they have no right to shut other people up.

    I don’t think Twitter has an obligation to host Milo. But I do think Twitter have outed themselves as political activists rather than as neutral platform. This is appropriate as Twitter has long been the home of the plug-stupid leftist. It is a format that suits leftists – ideal for smart-arsed quips by people with a short (142 character) attention span and too dumb to actually think things through.

    Also your “poem” is not quite lugubrious to be truly Vogon.

  23. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2016 5:05 pm

    I know splatt, I’m far too chirpy to be lugubrious, but I’m hoping more exposure to your posts will remedy that

  24. Walrus permalink
    July 21, 2016 5:29 pm

  25. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 21, 2016 5:31 pm

    “Chirpy”!!! Is that what you call it. I think a right pain in the arse is more like it, and a hyperactive one at that.

  26. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 21, 2016 5:33 pm

    You’re terrible, Walrus!

  27. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2016 6:24 pm

    I think a right pain in the arse is more like it

    hmmm, reminds me of chirpy Vogon poetry 🙂

    You’re terrible, Walrus!

    Is that you Muriel?

  28. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 21, 2016 6:58 pm

    I don’t think Twitter has an obligation to host Milo. But I do think Twitter have outed themselves as political activists rather than as neutral platform.

    hmmm

  29. July 21, 2016 7:20 pm

    team-cheerer,,,,Death death death, it’s all about death with ya,,,,

    # ,, for others, its all death-cult, death-cult, death-cult (-:

  30. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 21, 2016 7:40 pm

    So the left has banned someone from posting something? Natural totalitarians do things like that.

  31. July 21, 2016 8:01 pm

    pom-poms,,,,,the Labor that just re-elected Bill Shorten unopposed,,,,

    # ,, are you confirming my prediction blib will be a multi-term opposition leader (-: #yaaay.blib

  32. TB Queensland permalink
    July 21, 2016 10:04 pm

    Natural totalitarians do things like … accusing others of doing exactly what they do … a familiar ploy engaged in by right wing nut jobs … “look what they do” … as they fiddle, fiddle and fart around in the background … until caught out …

  33. TB Queensland permalink
    July 21, 2016 10:06 pm

    Wonder what the name of wally’s psychiatrist is … I think he’s getting more paranoid by the day …

  34. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 22, 2016 3:16 am

  35. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 22, 2016 10:01 am

    So we have a new ALP faction- with 4 people in it!

    Go factions! Go hacks! Go union overlords!

  36. Walrus permalink
    July 22, 2016 10:02 am

    “Am tired of feather brained media folk eg Panahi who call any view different to their master’s, as “leftist” ”

    Am tired of feather brained media folk eg Jonathon Green who call any view different to their communist master’s, as “denialist”

    Fixed that for ya !

  37. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 22, 2016 11:39 am

    Walrus, that Fabric chap you quoted is a genius. His nuanced argument has definitely convinced me. And thank you KL for the rigorous intellectual standard of your cutting and pasting. I am so blessed.

    As for your trite restatement of it, Walrus, that was just another jaundiced twitter opinion.

  38. Walrus permalink
    July 22, 2016 11:47 am

    “………….that was just another jaundiced twitter opinion.”

    Yeah………….goes without saying LOL

  39. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 22, 2016 12:09 pm

    How to be polite in a many-gendered world:

  40. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2016 12:15 pm

    How to be polite in a many-gendered world:

    But he forgot all about himself, the bigots.

    Liked the round of applause he got lol

    Speaking of bigots (just so youse don’t feel ‘left’ out 😉 )

  41. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 22, 2016 12:44 pm

    …agatek0101 18m ago

    “Haven’t we learnt anything?” No, that would be un-Australian.

    Btw – I’m always shocked by the amount of bullying going on in this country, starting at a very young age and for whatever reason. I’ve never seen anything like it before. There are statistics that say that 75% of school kids experience bullying. And every single friend of mine of South or Eastern European origin has a story to tell. Same with anyone even remotely ‘Asian’ appearance. And the number of really disrespectful or even vicious remarks made about Indigenous people by seemingly well mannered and reasonable people. What’s wrong with this country?

    RobInger agatek0101 5m ago

    Agreed!

    I suffered it even as a white-skinned Pom coming to Australia to live. Extreme and beyond friendly teasing.

    Even my daughters as children of a Pom suffered extensive bullying and teasing becasue of the way they pronounced certain words, even though their pronunciation is correct English!

    I have friends of different races and colours and they will all attest to bullying and bigotry…

  42. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2016 12:52 pm

    Haven’t we learned anything?

    Yea. It was all the Muslims fault all along!

  43. Walrus permalink
    July 22, 2016 1:25 pm

    Khaled Elomar the “peaceful” bearded muslim who asked a question to Pauline Hanson on Q&A this week appears to have a few interesting “peaceful comments” on his Facebook page……..

    ” Other posts on Elomar’s Facebook account includes criticisms of “Zionist Israel” as well as capitalism. One post said: “The Zionists and capitalists of the world ‘Go fuck yourself’ … We want peace motherfuckers.” ………”

    Seems quite a lovely chap………..No doubt our resident Troll will denounce The Guardian as another agent of Murdoch

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jul/22/qa-abc-backs-screening-process-after-news-corp-criticises-khaled-elomar

  44. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 22, 2016 1:34 pm

    Cannot wait to see TB of Queenslands next link to his hero, the Grand Mufti of Australia

  45. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2016 1:39 pm

    No doubt our resident Troll will denounce The Guardian as another agent of Murdoch

    Not sure why I would. They are not hte ones who have attacked him on a front page, and claimed the abc did wrong in letting him ask a question.

    I assume that, god forbid, you ever ask a question on qanda, that you are happy for the lolstralian to go through some of your choicest comments and then claim you shouldn’t be asking questions.

    At least the Guardian put context to the story. I mean, did the lolstralian mention his job at all, or just that he has sworn on facebook (the FUCKER!!)?

  46. Walrus permalink
    July 22, 2016 1:54 pm

    “I assume that, god forbid, you ever ask a question on qanda,……..”

    In the name of Allah, the most gracious the most merciful, if in future Allah wills I be present in an ABC studio so it will be.

    But on present indications as to my affinity and following of Allah’s various teachings….

    …I’d rather fucking top myself then be found on an episode of Q&A

  47. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2016 2:13 pm

    …I’d rather fucking top myself then be found on an episode of Q&A

    qanda, and the people of Australia, thank you for your consideration.

    Of course, you are still ok with the lolstralian having a go at you for ever questioning anything anywhere because of comments you have made here, aren’t you, and declaring that you shouldn’t have that right because of said comments.

  48. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 22, 2016 2:26 pm

    ” Other posts on Elomar’s Facebook account includes criticisms of “Zionist Israel” as well as capitalism. One post said: “The Zionists and capitalists of the world ‘Go fuck yourself’ … We want peace motherfuckers.” ………”
    Seems quite a lovely chap………..

    I have no doubt that if elomar came over here and read through your posts, he would be thinking the same thing!

  49. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 22, 2016 2:46 pm

    Re – Khaled Elomar

    The left never regard it as racism if the hate speech is directed to Israel or Jews

  50. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 22, 2016 3:07 pm

    Meanwhile, President Museveni of Uganda shows his deep understanding of world affairs:

    It is a bit long, but dip into it anywhere.

  51. Walrus permalink
    July 22, 2016 3:33 pm

    “I have no doubt that if elomar came over here and read through your posts, …”

    We wont see him here.

    This site is mostly occupied by the Brothers and Sister(s) of “the Enlightnment”

    Happy to teach him how to shave

  52. TB Queensland permalink
    July 22, 2016 3:36 pm

    …I’d rather fucking top myself then be found on an episode of Q&A

    Invitation has just been sent …

    … compulsory attendance or The Turnbull Government will backdate taxes on your super … 😀

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The left never regard it as racism if the hate speech is directed to Israel or Jews

    As long as its based in religion … any fkn religion … WGAFF?

    Holier than thou, cleaner than thee, more virtuous than all … is just plain fkn stupid … fairytales are fairytales for childish and/or childlike hoomans …

    What’s the difference between the stories from Egypt’s Ra/Pharaohs, Jewish First Testament, Christianity’s Second Testament and the wobbly ramblings of a goatherder called Mohammed who made shyte up too and got others to write it down, or a sci-fi author who wrote more sci-fi and called it Scientology, or a band who sang religious songs who now make millions flogging songs about Dog to unsuspecting embiciles … and what a dopey name Hillsong … most of the authors of all this tripe were born hundreds (thousands?) of years after any “event” – and very few are actually real or in most cases nicked from the Druids and Egyptians, who nicked it from camel drivers and cave men … gullible or what …

    Just another way to rip of the masses for a quick quid … and in some cases a grope in the dark …

  53. TB Queensland permalink
    July 22, 2016 3:38 pm

    It is a bit long, but dip into it anywhere.

    I did … zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz …

    He reminds me of Trump …

  54. July 22, 2016 3:41 pm

    Nations built on race-based `superiority` are always a success!

  55. TB Queensland permalink
    July 22, 2016 3:44 pm

    FFS! sreb … will you change that fkn photo at the top!

    Every time I post a comment I end up a metre away from my keyboard … new chair and really good wheels on porcelain tiles admittedly … Hanson’s face give’s me the fkn frights!

    (Aside: watching Ray Donovan TV series at the moment – last night he’s walking thru a graveyard, said to The Minister, “There’s Pauline!” I got the slow stare as only wives can command … big gravestone in the background – HANSON … 😉

  56. TB Queensland permalink
    July 22, 2016 3:45 pm

    Nations built on race-based `superiority` are always a success!

    That explains all the micks in Federal Government I suppose …

  57. Walrus permalink
    July 22, 2016 3:56 pm

    “Nations built on race-based `superiority` are always a success!”

    You might be right on that

  58. Walrus permalink
    July 22, 2016 3:59 pm

    Although that’s not right all the time……………..

  59. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 22, 2016 4:04 pm

    So is it possible to be racist about the “Americans”? Or Germans?

    I think people that don’t like Italians, Greeks, Vietnamese are racist.

    But is dislike of a particular cultural inclination “racism”?

    How is it possible for the left to so broadly criticise Israel (and Jews) and Catholics and yet call criticism of Islam ” racism”

    I’m actually interested to understand the logic of all this, if there is any.

  60. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2016 4:22 pm

    I’m actually interested to understand the logic of all this, if there is any.

    There is none yomm. It’s the fact that you ignore it at once, and then scream blue murder when it is turned back on you.

    Nobody has said the guy on qanda isn’t racist (or has uttered racist words).

    In fact, I’ve said quite often that it goes both ways.

    But, hanson is an elected politician spouting racist crap, ON AIR.

    The lolstralian is quite happy with that.

    This guy asked a very valid question, but, has said some racist remarks elsewhere.

    The lolstralian wants him banned because of it.

    The only thing is, I see their twisted logic. They want to silence dissent.

    Do you get it yet?

  61. TB Queensland permalink
    July 22, 2016 4:22 pm

    I’m actually interested to understand the logic of all this, if there is any.

    I’m trying to figure out WTF you’re talking about …?

  62. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 22, 2016 4:38 pm

    I wasn’t talking directly about Q and A. It’s just an observation, that the label ‘racist’ is applied to people that express anti Islamic sentiments, but not to anti catholic, anti American, anti Israel…

    I can understand that many don’t like the attitudes of overbearing/dominant cultures, but I struggle with the notion that criticism of some of the teaching of (or the followers of) Islam is ‘racism’

    It’s culturalism, and thats quite different.

  63. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2016 6:15 pm

    I wasn’t talking directly about Q and A.

    Yea yomm, neither was I 😉

    I can understand that many don’t like the attitudes of overbearing/dominant cultures

    C’mon, it’s a bit of a stretch to refer to Melbourne as a ‘culture’

    It’s more like a sentence.

    It’s culturalism, and thats quite different.

    Well, sorry if your pedantry get’s the better of you when bigots are there to defend, But, as we saw before, ‘race’ is a debatable subject anyway, pedantically speaking.

    So you get lost in your ‘is this or that a race’ and ignore the bigotry that is going on meanwhile.

    Because, if you want to get pedantic, zionism isn’t really a race, it”s a political movement. Not all (many?) Jews are zionists. And, it was quite clear that, from his comments, it was the overt capitalist nature of the zionist movement he was referring to.

    And capitalism …. I’ll leave you to argue the racism of that 😉

  64. July 22, 2016 6:23 pm

    On a blog where most of us don`t believe in `any` flavor sky-fairy, it is rather stupid of the `few` that spout endless bile sourced from Limited-News about the 1% of demented muslims, while totally ignoring, anglican-pedos and jew-pedos, and the cover-ups, particularly in boltland, and the global catlick pedo-machhine. #teabags

  65. TB Queensland permalink
    July 22, 2016 6:37 pm

    Like I said WTF is ToM yabbering about?

  66. July 22, 2016 7:07 pm

    from the guardian ,, ,,

    Limited-News questions,,,,extent to which QandA vets its audience,,,,

    # ,, What a load of pig-shit, `duncan` and now `elomar`, Limited-News would do much better cleaning their own death-star of assorted phobes, bigots and convicted racist`s, instead of sticking its nose up my abc`s arse all the time.

  67. July 22, 2016 7:35 pm

    AO,,,,,Good riddance to yiannopoulos. These right wing fascists are despicable racists, sexists and homophobes, they lower all social media interactions to the level of a young libs, young fogeys conference. People are victimised, bullied and harassed beyond belief,,,,,

    # ,, while l`m not disagree-ing with you armchair, it looks to me like hunting `sardines` while the `whales` get-off. Keep an eye out to see if twitter/fakebook/`any` give any of the corporate/astroturf trolls the boot. Bet they don`t. What about Limited-News???? Still allowed to peddle their bile via these platforms????

  68. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 22, 2016 8:45 pm

    On a blog where most of us don`t believe in `any` flavor sky-fairy, it is rather stupid of the `few` that spout endless bile sourced from Limited-News about the 1% of demented muslims, while totally ignoring, anglican-pedos and jew-pedos, and the cover-ups, particularly in boltland, and the global catlick pedo-machhine. #teabags

    I was thinking of that this afternoon after reading tomM’s comment re zionists/israel.

    If a muslim [or any qanda questioner] dares to poke their head up and ask a question in the national interest that is anathema to the right wing warrior journalists at the ‘Catholic Boys Daily’ and their life is suddenly under the microscope, whether they are equipped to cope with it or not. The catholic boys daily doesn’t want australia to even see these people as human beings, they have to be hated and abused. Of course any christian representative is feted as if they are the one-true-god in person. No talk about paedophilia or the sexism and bullying that’s rife in the institution, in the hallowed halls of their good christian educational colleges [funded by the public] heaven forbid, the cultural fiction as created by white australia and it’s institutions must be maintained and preserved at all cost.

  69. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 22, 2016 9:27 pm

    Australia once banned Catholics from mass and vilified the Irish. Haven’t we learned anything?

    Well the Irish govt did support the nazi’s

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092138/Irish-minister-admits-time-Jews-fleeing-Nazis-denied-visas-1930s-morally-bankrupt-regime.html

    Ireland has admitted for the first time that its ‘morally bankrupt’ regime of the 1930s denied visas to desperate Jews trying to escape from Nazi persecution.

    Justice Minister Alan Shatter said that, following Adolf Hitler’s rise to power, Ireland’s anti-semitic Berlin ambassador Charles Bewley ensured ‘the doors to this state were kept firmly closed to German Jewish families trying to flee’…….He said the ‘shameful position’ was further compounded by de Valera’s visit to the German Ambassador in 1945 to express his condolences on the death of Hitler.

    He added: ‘At a time when neutrality should have ceased to be an issue, the Government of this State utterly lost its moral compass.

  70. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 22, 2016 10:10 pm

    Well the Irish govt did support the nazi’s

    So has the australian govt, we’ve given many nazi criminals a safe haven from prosecution for decades.

    Some of the royals supported them and the liberal party has nazi roots too.

    Stop looking at irish history and look at the present.

    Fascist, authoritarian rule, fear mongering and propaganda, it’s the hallmark of the conservatives. Look at the abbott/turnbull regime.

  71. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 22, 2016 11:10 pm

    The only people I’ve ever observed saying – ban him – are left oriented types.

    Though they’ve tended to be the unintelligent ones

  72. Tom R permalink
    July 23, 2016 9:32 am

    So you missed all those lolstralian articles calling for certain questioners not being allowed to ask questions because …… wrong colour or wrong bank balance?

  73. TB Queensland permalink
    July 23, 2016 10:02 am

    ToM, I think I’ve come up with the most simple answer to your question yesterday …

    When you accuse someone of being racist, sexist, ageist etc … its because because the people you are insulting have no choice … with their race, their gender or their age …

    However, religion is a choice, nationality is a choice (for some of us anyway) … any lifestyle decisions are choices …

    The vagaries of nature are not choices and therefore calling someone an old, Asian, poofter … is insulting three times over … calling them a communist isn’t (if its true) …

    Just as I call you ToM the Tory (from now on) … or RWNJ … ’cause you are … and you choose to be a Mexican, ’cause you are …

    I don’t mind being called a Queenslander – my choice … but I take offence at my intelligence being insulted because of my age – because I have no choice in getting older (if only I did) …

    In conclusion – CHOICE determines whether you are accused of an “ism” … if the person has NO CHOICE … you’re an “ist!”

  74. TB Queensland permalink
    July 23, 2016 10:03 am

    I guess that was ToM the Tory’s “Please explain, moment” …

  75. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 23, 2016 10:44 am

    So you missed all those lolstralian articles calling for certain questioners not being allowed to ask questions because …… wrong colour or wrong bank balance?

    Yes, The Catholic Boys Daily does not like the natural order of things to be questioned in the public domain by anyone, especially the hoi polloi. The culture warriors employed by the TCBD will hunt them down with merciless, snarling fury and expose their sorry lives to public scrutiny and ridicule. How bloody dare they? Outrageous!

  76. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 23, 2016 10:57 am

    However, religion is a choice,

    That’s good TB, so criticism of Islam (or Catholics etc) isn’t “racism” in your view.

  77. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 23, 2016 11:33 am

    What if there is no freedom to choose a religion in a country? Or no freedom not to choose?

  78. July 23, 2016 11:45 am

    Hey teebz, l disagree with your `choice` explainer. What flavor dog do you have on your birth certificate. With all their pedo-defending and moosi-bashing, it`s a pretty safe bet that splatts, boo-melb and tinfoil`osy have catlick on their birth-certs. ln many places there is no `choice` pakistan, saudi, iran and turkey, all very different islamic countries, but l think they `do` stamp `all` birth-certs with an `islam` flavor of dog. Point being it may not be `individual-choice`, the one that counts in my mind anyway. lsrael????

  79. Tom R permalink
    July 23, 2016 11:53 am

    Yes ao, which is what made Sam Dastyaris comment to hanson so revealing, in more ways than one

  80. Tom R permalink
    July 23, 2016 11:55 am

    So yomm, what is your term of choice for the vilification of dark skinned Muslims, just so we can keep you happy and concentrate on the actual issue instead of the terminology

  81. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 23, 2016 12:00 pm

    What if there is no freedom to choose a religion in a country? Or no freedom not to choose?

    And that seems to be an entirely legitimate reason to criticise a religion, but some seem to shy away from that, particularly as it applies to Islam.

  82. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 23, 2016 12:02 pm

    I tend to think prejudice on the basis of colour is racism.

    And religion isn’t a “race”

  83. TB Queensland permalink
    July 23, 2016 1:39 pm

    That’s good TB, so criticism of Islam (or Catholics etc) isn’t “racism” in your view.

    No … (and I criticise their ACTIONS not their CHOICE)

    What flavor dog do you have on your birth certificate.

    C of E (you’d know that if your kept up) I was actually christened when I was seven yo …

    … but I CHOSE/choose to be agnostic …

    … and oddly enough when I was conscripted I was asked and said agnostic and I was recorded as CofE … no agnostic padres you see … but you had to “have” a religion in the ADF in ’70 … thankfully the ADF have become more adult and intelligent in the 21st Century …

    I also CHOOSE to be Australian (I’m eligible for a UK passport and, at the moment, an EU passport too) … my nationality is my choice … and I choose to be a proud Australian and a parochial Queenslander … or I could move to Mexico and be a dick …

    but some seem to shy away from that, particularly as it applies to Islam.

    Could I suggest that the people who “shy away” from accusing Muslims before there is any evidence that Islamists are involved is what really mean … its always been easy to blanket blame a group of people that are tainted by a small number … are all catliks pedophiles? Of course not … are all Muslims terrorists?

    I tend to think prejudice on the basis of colour is racism.

    And religion isn’t a “race”

    So do I … and a “race” is not a nationality (as was hinted at above) …

  84. TB Queensland permalink
    July 23, 2016 1:41 pm

    “”” No … (and I criticise their ACTIONS not their CHOICE) “””

    I’ll correct that I do criticise their choice … I think religion is based on playing with immature minds, brainwashing, control and power … through the ages … it has always been so … from caveman to cosmonaut …

  85. July 23, 2016 1:45 pm

    On my abc24, l`ve just seen blib announce the teams shadow-puppets.

    All the way thru it blib said `he` decided this, and `he` decided that. lt seems strange to me that the team continually use language that always makes them look `greasy`. The team-cheerer continually tells us, `the team decides the leader`, and in that same vein, didn`t the `factions` just negotiate and `decide` which puppet got which `shadow`???? Why don`t the team understand that the continual `greasy` language spooks NON-aligned punters???? Look at all the teams resources gobbled-up defending the greasy `carbon-price` language in the jooLiar-era. The team are still failing to learn their own lessons from their `own` errors. #yaaay.blib

  86. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 23, 2016 2:06 pm

    I think religion is based on playing with immature minds, brainwashing, control and power … through the ages … it has always been so … from caveman to cosmonaut …

    Yes the “opium for the masses”

    Lest they realise what the ruling class is doing to them. Religion has always worked with governments to maintain the power and control of the very systems that do the oppressing.
    Some countries have religion as government. Here we pretend we don’t but they creep into parliament in ever increasing numbers.

    We must demand a Bill of Rights.

  87. Tom R permalink
    July 23, 2016 3:19 pm

    I tend to think prejudice on the basis of colour is racism.
    And religion isn’t a “race”

    Thanks for clearing THAT up then 😯

    So that would mean calling the latest dark skinned guy on qanda to ask an awkward question a racist because he was attacking zionism and capitalism racist would be incorrect then?

  88. July 23, 2016 4:05 pm

    So pom-poms, Why don`t the team understand that the continual `greasy` language spooks NON-aligned punters???? #yaaaay.blib

  89. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 23, 2016 4:08 pm

    racism
    ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
    noun
    the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race
    racism
    ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
    noun
    the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
    “theories of racism”
    prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.
    “a programme to combat racism”
    synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice/bigotry, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, bias, intolerance;

  90. Tom R permalink
    July 23, 2016 4:17 pm

    Why don`t the team understand that the continual `greasy` language spooks NON-aligned punters?

    I get the feeling that, even if I could be bothered deciphering your gibberish, I still wouldn’t care what you are rambling about. Anything to do with colouredcardboardcartons perchance?

  91. Tom R permalink
    July 23, 2016 4:19 pm

    the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

    It’s interesting that dolt, a convicted racist, still doesn’t understand just what it is, as he continues to complain that Aborigines are treated differently than others, but refuses to acknowledge WHY.

    He would be salivating at the thought of hanson spouting his ignorance for him.

  92. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 23, 2016 4:43 pm

    It’s interesting that dolt, a convicted racist

    What never ceases to amaze me about you lefties is how shameless you are. Bolt was saying disadvantaged Aboriginal people should be getting the grants that white people with 1/1000 percent aboriginal blood were getting. I agree with Bolt.

    What you should be doing TomR is apologising for the 8,469 children Rudd/Gillard locked up and the $15B-$20B we spent locking up 50,000 boat people. There were only 6 boat people in detention in 2007.

  93. July 23, 2016 4:57 pm

    even,,,,,if I could be bothered,,,,,

    # ,, Oh, sorry l `bothered` you @1:45 team-cheerer,

    # ,, l will leave you to paddle in the shallow end of the intellectual-pool with boo-melb and kneel then. (-:

  94. July 23, 2016 5:05 pm

    Teabag Panic

    miami-herald,,,,,,,Kinsey, a 47-year-old married father of five who has worked at the MacTown center for the Developmentally Disabled for more than a year, was shot Monday afternoon while trying to coax an autistic man he cared for back into the center,,,,,,,,

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article91406042.html

  95. July 23, 2016 5:07 pm

    More Teabag Panic

    reutrers,,,,,,,,The mall is next to the Munich Olympic stadium, where the Palestinian militant group Black September took 11 Israeli athletes hostage and eventually killed them during the 1972 Olympic Games,,,,,,,

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-crime-munich-idUSKCN1021YZ

  96. Tom R permalink
    July 23, 2016 5:43 pm

    Bolt was saying disadvantaged Aboriginal people should be getting the grants that white people with 1/1000 percent aboriginal blood were getting.

    No he wasn’t, he was saying, incorrectly, that certain people weren’t Aboriginal, for various reasons. His various reasons were factually incorrect, and did not apply to those people he then wantonly vilified.

    sorry l `bothered` you

    Good.

  97. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 23, 2016 5:51 pm

    even if I could be bothered deciphering your gibberish, I still wouldn’t care what you are rambling about.

  98. Tom R permalink
    July 23, 2016 6:04 pm

    So yomm, come up with nomenclature we can use yet that suits your sensibilities, or still prefer sniping from the thickets about irrelevances

  99. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 23, 2016 6:15 pm

    Huh?

  100. Tom R permalink
    July 23, 2016 6:21 pm

    Huhist?

  101. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 23, 2016 6:34 pm

    No he wasn’t, he was saying, incorrectly, that certain people weren’t Aboriginal, for various reasons.

    Yes, Bolt thinks that people with 1/1000per cent Aboriginal blood should not be getting grants. That is not being racist.The grants are for disadvantaged Aboriginal people.

    Now Bolt may be wrong but he is not being racist.

    I believe something similar happened in North America where Indian tribes were allowed to start up casino’s and anybody with part Indian blood wanted some of the profits.

  102. July 23, 2016 6:36 pm

    Here Come The Teabags!

    reuters,,,,,,,,Duke, a Republican, is a former Louisiana state legislator and unsuccessful candidate for governor who served a 15-month federal prison sentence after pleading guilty in 2002 to felony charges of tax evasion and mail fraud,,,,,,,,

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-davidduke-idUSKCN1021WA

  103. July 23, 2016 7:04 pm

    team-cheerer,,,,,prefer sniping from the thickets about irrelevances,,,,,

    # ,, oh give him some credit, he has dedicated to sharing his `selfies` with us (-:

  104. July 23, 2016 7:57 pm

    So while you lot have been busy arguing amongst yourselves, I on the other hand, have been meeting new and interesting ppl. One chap I met yesterday who was making some extra cash driving uber, mentioned to me that he used to work in the casinos at Macau. Interestingly he mentioned that he’d see a lot of desperate people – especially mainland Chinese.
    Rd
    He says that it wasn’t uncommon for ppl to lose all their money and then borrow more from the loan sharks. If they lost that they’d sometimes end up killing themselves by jumping from the top of the building. He said it happened at least once a day…

  105. July 23, 2016 8:09 pm

    Hey walrus, guess where I am….?

    I took these just for you, no don’t thank me.

  106. TB Queensland permalink
    July 23, 2016 10:07 pm

    Huh?

    Some of us took the effort to answer your questions and received zilch in reply …

    What do you think we’ll do next time, Tory ToM?

  107. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 23, 2016 10:26 pm

    What do you think we’ll do next time

    Well you locked up 8,469 children last time. Most probably double that next time.

    Natural totalitarians never change their spots

  108. TB Queensland permalink
    July 23, 2016 11:20 pm

    Find a new fkn tune!

  109. TB Queensland permalink
    July 24, 2016 9:34 am

    Here’s those fkn lefties – at it again … fancy denying Trump supporters their freedom of speech like that … and what a stupid concept – only a loonie leftie would come up with a little sign that said – “no racism no hate” …

    Hey?

    http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/watch-these-trump-supporters-desperately-try-to-cover-a-womans-no-racism-no-hate-sign-with-an-american-flag/news-story/b80f06cc41ff4b51c3346700dd6202c5

  110. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 24, 2016 9:55 am

    Hi reb
    Glad you are having a good time and savouring the culinary delights. I imagine walrus’ mouth is watering. Wish I was there!

    I’ve cut & pasted in full because this is $walled. I was thinking along similar lines when referencing the IRA attacks

    White men can’t terrorise: race, religion and terror in the media
    https://www.crikey.com.au/2016/07/22/keane-race-religion-and-terror-in-the-media/

    White male perpetrators of violence receive understanding from the media, while Muslims are seen as the very definition of terrorists.

    So everyone’s all over LNP MP and repugnant anthropoid George Christensen for prematurely using the incident at Merrylands Police Station in Sydney last night to attack Islam. Christensen himself, not without reason, blames the ABC, which like other outlets initially talked about a terrorist attack. Christensen wasn’t the only Islamophobe to seize on the incident. Far-right head of the “Australian Conservative Party” Peter Wallace was insisting long after the actual nature of the event was clear that it was terrorism.

    What’s interesting isn’t that bigots gonna bigot — they don’t need an excuse to demonise Muslims — nor for that matter eager journalists not bothering to confirm things before yelling “terrorism”, it’s what the incident reveals about what how “terrorism” is defined.

    For people with memories longer than five minutes, terrorism used to be about politically motivated violence. And there was plenty of it: France was racked with right-wing terrorism in the 1960s (multiple attempts to kill De Gaulle), then left-wing terrorism in the 1970s. Italy’s “years of lead” saw over 2000 people murdered by left-wing and right-wing terrorists; left-wing and right-wing terrorists killed dozens in Germany in the 1970s; the Troubles in Ireland and the UK cost 3600 lives — remember the IRA’s regular “Christmas bombing campaigns” on the mainland, funded by generous donations from the American Irish community?

    Now, despite white supremacist groups being identified by US police as the biggest terrorist threat in that country, despite Anders Breivik’s 77 victims, despite the now forgotten murder of MP Jo Cox, terrorism is almost, by definition, any violent behaviour by Muslims. Or, put another way, the threshold for “terrorism” is far, far lower for brown people than white people.

    If Peter Zhurawel had been a Muslim, we wouldn’t be reading about his “mental health issues” or his looming legal battle with his brother, or how he felt “overwhelmed”. But his white skin and his non-Muslim status give him access to a special place reserved for white perpetrators of violence, where efforts are made to understand their grievances, determine if they have been suffering mental health or drug problems — where, in short, his actions will be assessed in their actual context.

    Violent white men get understanding and pleas for their circumstances to be taken into account. Violent Muslims get “who radicalised them”. It’s media racism — or media bigotry, if you want to get hung up on the “Islam isn’t a race” excuse — in action.

    Now, belatedly, there seems to be a dawning realisation that mental health might actually be relevant not merely for understanding why angry white men commit violence but for some violent Muslim extremists as well. The role of mental illness in the background of terror attack perpetrators certainly needs more study — some experts say it plays no significant role (and people with mental illness are no more likely to be violent than the rest of the community), but time and again, mental illness, drug addiction and homelessness feature in the background of perpetrators. So, too, does domestic and sexual violence, as the case of Man Haron Monis indicates.

    These are all tools for enabling us to better understand what drives some men — and they’re nearly always men — to violence, but they’re loaded with political baggage. Attempting to understand what drives Islamist terrorism is likely to lead to criticism that you’re excusing and justifying terrorism, that these people are simply evil, or “hate us for our freedom” and any effort to understand their actions further is simply being “soft on terrorism”.

    Attempting to understand white male grievance, however, gets the opposite response. In both Pauline Hanson’s initial foray into politics and now her return, for example, “liberal elites” are blamed for facilitating her success because they fail to sufficiently understand and sympathise with the concerns of the angry white males who support her. You’re irresponsible if you don’t try to understand angry white males, but irresponsible if you try to understand angry Muslims.

    Nowhere does this play out more clearly than in the connection between Western military action and violent responses from radical Muslims. This connection is now so well-established and so widely accepted that it’s laborious to document — it has been made by the CIA, by MI5, the Pentagon, by all UK intelligence agencies advising Tony Blair before the Iraq War, by counter-terrorism experts, and even made by Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull. And yet when an Australian Islamic cleric made the same connection, he was demonised as a terrorism apologist by News Corp and government ministers for doing so.

    The double standard doesn’t extend merely to the bigotry of the Murdoch press or the casual inconsistency of thoughtless journalists. Earlier this week, at least 73 Syrian civilians, including 35 children, were killed in airstrikes in the Syrian town of Manjib, with the casualties confirmed by several different monitors of civilian casualties. The United States is the only air force operating in the area and now says it is “investigating” what happened — such investigations tend to take many months and the results only emerge long after the relevant incident has long been forgotten.

    The news of scores of civilians, including dozens of children, being killed in what was almost certainly a Western airstrike received minimal attention here — news outlets ran some wire copy, but it wouldn’t have received 1% of the coverage of the Nice attack. The deaths would have been accidental, and Western air forces have much stricter rules to prevent civilian casualties than the Russians, whose airstrikes in support of the Assad regime are conducted with a near-contemptuous disregard for civilians.

    But the problem is that such events — exactly like drone strikes that incinerate civilians, including children, across the Middle East — perpetuate exactly the anger and disaffection that provides such fertile soil for Islamic extremists. And the indifference of Western media, and the West itself — i.e. us — to those casualties reinforces the impression of a profound double standard, of a lack of interest in dead Muslims, even those killed at our own hand, compared to white people.

    Meantime, Aussie Muslims, ordinary people going about their lives, mums and dads and kids struggling with the same pressures the rest of us deal with, people no better or worse or more or less religious than the rest of us, face a rising tide of hate, abuse and attacks, increasingly legitimised by elected politicians. But it’s the angry, bitter white people abusing and attacking them that we’re urged to understand and empathise with. It’s a double standard with a real human cost…

  111. Tom R permalink
    July 24, 2016 10:22 am

    guess where I am….?

    The toilet?

  112. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 24, 2016 10:31 am

    Further reading for those who are interested.

    Why the ‘Islam is not a race!’ argument doesn’t stack up:
    http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/why-the-islam-is-not-a-race-argument-doesnt-stack-up/news-story/3a1b34e106fbe22a17f003edb842a4ee

    The anti-Islam crusade endorsed by Bolt, Kruger is already happening:
    https://www.crikey.com.au/2016/07/22/muslim-discrimination-already-happening/

  113. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 24, 2016 10:37 am

    The toilet?

    😛

  114. TB Queensland permalink
    July 24, 2016 10:40 am

    guess where I am….?

    Cooking walrus blubber satays? 🙂

  115. Tom R permalink
    July 24, 2016 10:44 am

    muslim-discrimination-already-happening/

    Well duh.

    It’s interesting watching hanson latching onto the latest bigots target.

    Whatever happened to dems asians?

  116. Tom R permalink
    July 24, 2016 10:46 am

    From ao’s link

    Call it racism, call it prejudice, call it bigotry — it’s still discrimination.

    So yomm, which term suits your delicate sensifuckenbilities?

    Or are you happier stuck in that thicket?

  117. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 24, 2016 10:57 am

    But I did acknowledge that I even agreed with your comment TB.
    —–
    But generally, why is it that when we get –
    • one variety of religious extremist saying homosexuality is evil, the left protests

    • another religious extremist saying homosexuality is evil and execution of adulterers is an appropriate penalty,

    …the left doesn’t protest, and calls those protesting “racists” and “right wing extremists”?

  118. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 24, 2016 11:08 am

    Call it racism, call it prejudice, call it bigotry — it’s still discrimination.

    So if i am anti-Nazi am i guilty of racism, prejudice or bigotry?

  119. Tom R permalink
    July 24, 2016 11:21 am

    the left doesn’t protest

    Why are merging one issue with another.

    As far as I know, ‘teh’ left protest about the actions of muslims when they attack minorities. You probably hear more about it locally here because Muslims don’t attack homosexuals etc so much here, it is the other religious extremists that do that.

    Just because you don’t hear it, doesn’t mean it is not happening.

    But, particularly here in Australia, that is all overshadowed by the extreme bigotry being put onto the Muslims here.

    Of course, being bigotted assholes towards a religion that has many horrendous aspects itself isn’t really going to advance either cause.

    And you STILL can’t come up with a terminology I see, you Huhist you!

  120. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 24, 2016 12:09 pm

    That’s fine, but there is marginal guy named Dan (not Andrews – the church one) who gets plenty of attention from the left for his outrageous views on homosexuality.

    I’m not sure, but his he more or less influential that the Muftis that preach their outrageous fundamentalist views about homosexuality, adultery etc?

    I think the left are willing to overlook outrageous opinions based on who is expressing them.

  121. TB Queensland permalink
    July 24, 2016 12:16 pm

    …the left doesn’t protest, and calls those protesting “racists” and “right wing extremists”?

    Who are these “leftists” you keep talking about? (And accusing in absentia)

    And why on earth do you think I, and/or anyone else here condones any of the crap that all religions seem to indulge in … don’t you actually comprehend the comments from KL, sreb and myself about religionS (don’t recall any from TR) … or do you just choose to be bloody minded … and hit the goad button?

    But I did acknowledge that I even agreed with your comment TB.

    Could you please point me to that?

  122. TB Queensland permalink
    July 24, 2016 12:19 pm

    I think the left are willing to overlook outrageous opinions based on who is expressing them.

    That’s your opinion … that’s fine …

  123. Tom R permalink
    July 24, 2016 1:51 pm

    That’s your opinion … that’s fine …

    I think the right are proven to try to shut out other opinions based on who is expressing them.

    And also not addressing issues, such as, what are we allowed to call racists Huhists?

  124. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 24, 2016 1:58 pm

    A dislike of a culture that promotes execution of adulters and homosexuals isn’t really a bad thing.

  125. Tom R permalink
    July 24, 2016 2:09 pm

    A dislike of a culture that promotes execution of adulters and homosexuals isn’t really a bad thing.

    Nobody is saying it is. But acting in a bigoted and “racist” manner against people belonging to that culture is.

  126. TB Queensland permalink
    July 24, 2016 2:27 pm

    A dislike of a culture that promotes execution of adulters and homosexuals isn’t really a bad thing.

    Tru dat!

    Nobody is saying it is. But acting in a bigoted and “racist” manner against people belonging to that culture is.

    Dat tru 2!

  127. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 24, 2016 2:48 pm

    Amazing that we seem to agree!

  128. Tom R permalink
    July 24, 2016 3:26 pm

    Amazing that we seem to agree!

    Yep

    DOWN WITH ALL HUHISTS!

  129. TB Queensland permalink
    July 24, 2016 4:11 pm

    Amazing that we seem to agree!

    er, hate to burst yer bubble, ToM … we always did … its just that a particular few of commenters here chose to “decide” what the rest of us “think” …

    Enlightenment is truly amazing … why, even Georgie Brandis, is beginning to understand that it’s very easy to become part of a lynch mob … (other pollies prefer to arouse the rabble!)

    “It’s very important to be careful in our use of language,” Brandis told the ABC’s Insiders program on Sunday. “Not every mass casualty attack is an act of terrorism. Not every premeditated act of violence is an act of terrorism.

    “Our law has a very specific definition of terrorism. Terrorism is an act of violence or a threat of violence perpetrated for a political, religious or ideological cause, to coerce government or to intimidate the public.

    “If we’re going to understand this problem we have to anatomise it correctly. We must be very careful in our use of language so that we don’t spray the word terrorism around too loosely.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jul/24/george-brandis-warns-against-assuming-all-attacks-are-terrorism-after-munich-shooting

  130. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 24, 2016 4:53 pm

    It’s amazing how enlightened this govt has become since ditching Abbott.

    Maybe it’ll take awhile for people to wean themselves off fear mongering and pantzwetting.

  131. TB Queensland permalink
    July 24, 2016 5:56 pm

    Hope springs eternal, KL … but I fear the fear mongers will be spreading fear till the end is nigh …

  132. July 24, 2016 7:23 pm

    l mostly agree with your crikey/paywall/copy/paste armchair. To me when john-w, george-w and bliar invaded iraq particularly, and afghanistan, they `refused` to count the `collateral` kills. To me this sent the message that brown, arab, moosi (or whatever `demographic` they want to use) are `less` than human and `unworthy` of even being acknowledged, not even in death. Compare that to `we`, `teh-west` are continually reminded of jewish misery in ww2 and 6-million were murdered. We are much-less often `reminded` that at least triple the number of ruskie`s were murdered and died in battle too. Those that lead `teh-west` DO tend to be rampant phobes or/and racists.

  133. July 24, 2016 7:46 pm

    teabag,,,,,But generally, why is it that when we get,

    1.one variety of religious extremist saying homosexuality is evil, the left protests,,,,,

    2.another religious extremist saying homosexuality is evil and execution of adulterers is an appropriate penalty,,,,,,

    ,

    FOR CLARITY, is this what you mean?????

    1.one variety of religious extremist(acl-lib-catlick-teabags) saying homosexuality is evil #while mass-murdering iraq citizens, mass murdering afghanis(mostly), ignoring sky-fairy pedo-clubs, but are highly visible, highly vocal political interfere`ers of voluntary euthanasia, abortions, gay-marriage and other personal liberties.

    2.another religious extremist(saudi) saying homosexuality is evil and execution of adulterers is an appropriate penalty #while armed, funded, proped-up and protected by teabags of teh-west.

  134. July 24, 2016 8:02 pm

    boo-the-teabag,,,,,,,,,A dislike of a culture that promotes execution of adulters and homosexuals isn`t really a bad thing,,,,,

    # ,, the `culture` you keep referring to emits from saudi, if`ya have a problem with it, take it up with teabags of `teh-west` instead of bleating `lefties` like an imbecile, kneel aint the `gold` standard dopey

  135. July 24, 2016 8:30 pm

    ha ha ,,,,,It`s very important to be careful in our use of language, Brandis told,,,,,

    # ,, oh what a fcuking hypocrite the brandis cane-toad is, l saw this on telly, after all the bile that has come from his mouth, teabag-panic has set in and he wants to change the tune now that the `security` things he deluded himself the teabags could control, obviously can`t be

  136. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 24, 2016 9:33 pm

    There was an Iraqi on Q&A and he agreed with the removal of Sadam and by implication the invasion

    http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s4470729.htm

    MICHAEL YOUSIF: I think we needed that help to get rid of Saddam Hussein, because he wasn’t behave properly because he’s wasting his time for – he’s wasting money of Iraqis in weapons and spending that on fancy houses and cars, and spending – spending his time killing people. So there was no democratic election and nothing at all because we couldn’t even talk badly about Saddam Hussein or his follower. If you do that – if we did that, we will get into trouble and you have to go to investigation and you have to answer all the Government question why do that. We needed that help. Even if British or America didn’t find weapons of mass destruction, we needed democratic country, you know.

    GEORGE BRANDIS: Hear, hear!

  137. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 25, 2016 9:29 am

    Well I can tell you that my family will be boycotting this year. I do not trust the government with personal information at all. I believe they will give or sell info to interest groups, use it for party political purposes and for no-good purposes that I can’t even think of!. They have no need to keep the data, no longer is it anonymous.

    Very concerning about a non-secular state of government, where are the people who should be ringing the alarm bells?

    This is the leadership that we should be seeing from Turnbull.

    Is this really necessary?

  138. Walrus permalink
    July 25, 2016 9:53 am

    “Hey walrus, guess where I am….?”

    YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYY !

    I know exactly where you are, Penang. That place and Newton Circuit in Singapore must be in the top 10 of street food places in Asia.

    Chicken over charcoal………………..the best way to have satay

  139. Walrus permalink
    July 25, 2016 9:59 am

    I must say I am feeling pretty disgusted by the conduct iof Turnbull and Shorten over the weekend.

    Its the 100th anniversary of the Battle of Fromelles and both those c*nts are swanning about with bugger all to do until Parliament goes back.

    Unfucking believable that they didn’t see fit to get there arses over to Europe for the ceremonies.

    Neither of them are fit to be PM.

    There is no way Abbott, Gillard, Rudd, or Howard would have ignored the anniversary

  140. July 25, 2016 10:30 am

    “”Chicken over charcoal………………..the best way to have satay””

    Isn’t it…? That’s the same stall you would’ve eaten at at Batu Ferringi… 🙂

    Arrived back in Melbourne an hour ago and it’s fkn freezing !

  141. Walrus permalink
    July 25, 2016 10:36 am

    “Arrived back in Melbourne an hour ago and it’s fkn freezing !”

    Not much better in Sydney. The wind coming out of the west is fuckin’ freezing

  142. Walrus permalink
    July 25, 2016 10:38 am

    “Isn’t it…?”

    Indeed.

    We BBQ cook over charcoal almost exclusively these days plus we like to “smoke” a lot of stuff as well.

  143. July 25, 2016 10:54 am

    “”plus we like to “smoke” a lot of stuff as well.””

    Well that explains a lot of your comments then… 🙂

  144. Walrus permalink
    July 25, 2016 11:06 am

    “Well that explains a lot of your comments then… ”

    LOL….yes hickory and apple wood does have a definite effect.

  145. Tom R permalink
    July 25, 2016 11:39 am

    yes hickory and apple wood does have a definite effect.

    I think that’s a debate you should be having with toiletboss isn’t it?

    Mind you, it may not prevent some from experimenting.

  146. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 25, 2016 11:54 am

    The Australian corrects their page 1 story from earlier in the week.

    TomR

    What is your point? The story is still true. The wind turbines were using more power than they were producing. However it was minus 2MW not minus 50MW as published.

  147. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 25, 2016 12:08 pm

    Danny Andrews is obviously trying to regain his credibility with that letter (AO’s comment)

    His complete ineptitude probably cost the ALP a few seats, and therefore the chance of governing.

    Danny is a dill, an oaf, a complete klutz, and example of a hack made good. He should go.

  148. Tom R permalink
    July 25, 2016 12:14 pm

    The story is still true

    Yea, you mean except for all the stuff they got wrong.

    And of course the (deliberate?) ignoring of the elephant in the room.

    The biggest spike in electricity prices in South Australia in the last week of June was caused by the failure of a unit at one of the state’s biggest gas generators, according to the latest report by the Australian Energy Regulator.

    http://reneweconomy.com.au/2016/failed-gas-unit-caused-biggest-spike-in-electricity-price-regulator-says-54442

  149. Tom R permalink
    July 25, 2016 12:24 pm

  150. Walrus permalink
    July 25, 2016 12:28 pm

    Hilarious, TomR blames the failure of fossil fuel energy generation for the failure of renewable energy to generate enough electricity.

    This is what the Link says………

    “It says the cause of this was the delayed return to service of unit 4 in the Torrens A gas fired power station, which had tripped earlier in the day, taking it out of service…………..The AER reports for previous weeks also noted most of the major price spikes were caused by the unexpected loss of capacity at various coal and gas plants, including the Eraring coal generator in NSW, and the Loy Yang B brown coal generator in Victoria.”………..On top of this, capacity at two gas plants was withdrawn at the last moment because the operator decided it would not be economic to switch them on. And of course, there were record gas prices which pushed up the price of gas fired generation. ………..So, it’s not all the fault of wind energy or the lack of it, ”

    You only read logic like that wherever TomR posts

  151. Walrus permalink
    July 25, 2016 12:37 pm

    “This Pensioner’s Status About Being Denied Cancer Treatment Is Going Viral”

    Already rubbished by Health Minister.

    Strangely it seems impossible to find out what clinic this occurred at…………………..I wonder why ?

  152. Tom R permalink
    July 25, 2016 1:21 pm

    Hilarious, TomR blames the failure of fossil fuel energy generation for the failure of renewable energy to generate enough electricity.

    You do understand that, the gas companies were contracted to fill in for the wind. The Government knows that, until they have more capacity from other sources (eg solar or tidal), wind alone will not supply the requirements at all times.

    Even when we used coal, we still had backups ready for when that wasn’t available, or enough. We used to get rolling blackouts every summer due to not enough available power in heatwaves. This has now been remedied. Can you guess how?

    Now, the gas companies are gouging the Government, when called on to do precisely what they are contracted to do.

    I hope the State Government calls a commision into this.

    I also hope it helps push for more investment into other forms of renewables. The fossils at the fossil fuels have gouged us enough for my liking.

  153. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 25, 2016 1:47 pm

    Yea, you mean except for all the stuff they got wrong.

    The story was that wind turbines were using more power than they generated. The tweet conformed the story. They got some of the numbers wrong. They generated minus 2MW rather than minus 50 but the point of the story is true. Wind turbines in SA were using more power than they were producing.

    What has SA got against coal? No wonder our manufacturing has left. Cheap coal produced electricity was one of our strong points.

  154. Tom R permalink
    July 25, 2016 1:56 pm

    The tweet conformed the story.

    conformed, yes lol

    They got some of the numbers wrong

    Massively wrong. 2MW is a LOT different from 50.

    No wonder our manufacturing has left.

    Don’t go there you mindless regurgitor of lib stupidity.

    We KNOW why Holden left. It was because hockey kicked them out the door, when he should have been working with them.

  155. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 25, 2016 1:59 pm

    Massively wrong. 2MW is a LOT different from 50.

    Yes but the point of the story is true. Wind turbines were using more energy than they were generating. By the way it appears that wind turbines need power. Where do they get it from?

  156. Tom R permalink
    July 25, 2016 2:36 pm

    Yes but the point of the story is true.

    The point of the story is bullshit. Only a fool would believe that wind alone could or would provide a permanent power source. The point of the story is to highlight the bleeding obvious, and disregard the thoroughly corrupt manner that fossil fools are gouging the electorate.

    And it is because of thoroughly inaccurate (deliberately?) stories like this that they are able to get away with it.

  157. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 25, 2016 4:22 pm

    The point of the story is true. There were some factual errors which did not alter the story. One factual error was The Australian said wind farms were producing 5780MW when it should have been 189.72MW. That is an error in FAVOR of wind farms approx 30 fold in favor

  158. July 25, 2016 5:27 pm

    Big,,,,W is expected to make a loss of up to $17 million this year,,,,

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-25/woolworths-to-cut-500-jobs/7657166

    has,,,,,announced that 30 stores will close, including 17 supermarkets in Australia, six supermarkets in New Zealand, four Woolworths metro stores and three hotels,,,,,

    #yaaaay.boardrooms #they`re.worth.every.penny

  159. July 25, 2016 6:18 pm

    So,,,,,,,there is a person here who has the potential to contribute positively to the country – but no, we lock her up in detention.”

    Mr Jafari, who will have to leave his family and job to follow Mojgan to Darwin, said all he wanted was the chance for a normal, safe life,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    # ,, saw this on telly, more fcuking disgusting treatment of folks by the cnuts in canberra

    https://t.co/4I4aqXW1Ak

  160. July 25, 2016 6:32 pm

    Also check-out the photo, they are dressed `aussie`, no hijab in sight, they`re `fully` assimilating and yet the teabags `still` treat them like shit. Massive teabag fail. Very kristian of them l suppose.

  161. July 25, 2016 7:10 pm

    ha-ha

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2016/mar/30/2016-is-census-year-but-you-can-stick-your-census-in-your-ear-you-wont-get-any-data-here

    # ,, moon-dog, disobedient penguin and the guardian pinkists seem to be following `my` Love of the ABS now-a-days (-:

  162. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 25, 2016 8:41 pm

    Also check-out the photo, they are dressed `aussie`, no hijab in sight, they`re `fully` assimilating and yet the teabags `still` treat them like shit. Massive teabag fail. Very kristian of them l suppose.

    Just saw the story on abc australian story, it’s heartwrenching.
    The 4 Corners on the abuse of kids in detention that follows it looks to be pretty harrowing viewing. Nothing justifies that shit, it’s inhumane. You wouldn’t treat animals like that.

    WTF have we become as a nation?

  163. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 25, 2016 9:11 pm

    Interesting article from crikey which brings the liberal party’s fascist connections back into focus.

    I remember this 2014 article about the libs and their fascist mates.

    Tony Abbott, the NDH and the Liberal Party’s fascist affair
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/tony-abbott-the-ndh-and-the-liberal-partys-fascist-affair,6411

    …Why did Liberal MP Craig Kelly give a speech at a function celebrating the creation of a Croatian fascist state on behalf of PM Tony Abbott? Dr Binoy Kampmark looks at the uncomfortably close links between the NSW Liberal right and European neo-Nazi extremists…

  164. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 25, 2016 9:29 pm

  165. July 25, 2016 9:30 pm

    I watched that too AO. Unbelievable!

  166. July 25, 2016 9:34 pm

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  167. July 25, 2016 9:58 pm

    Yes, it is wonderful, in that teabag sort of way, that we as a nation have successfully transplanted our off-shore gulag system, to an on-shore gulag system for kids in the NT so seamlessly. #4corners

    ,

    # ,, great moon-dog link too armchair, thanks

  168. TB Queensland permalink
    July 25, 2016 10:07 pm

    I too just watched Four Corners (we have it on record) – Abu Graib shyte alright!

    I seethed at that vision and that fkn minister! Heartless, incompetent prick he is! Fancy going to a TV interview without viewing ALL of the footage – from 2014!

    Training was the problem, he said – MY ARSE that was plain dumb management!

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Not a good day here either!

    Been at the hospital all day … The Minister suddenly passed out sitting at her computer this morning … our computer locations mean we sit back to back and it took me a couple of seconds to react to – “I’m going to pass out” … not something that happens every day!

    … ambulance was there within five minutes (daughter within five seconds – “T, get here now!” is not the way I talk to her normally) … luckily she ran her own training business – in First Aid … and with my time in OH&S we had her on the floor in the “position” by the time the paras turned up …

    She’s fine at the moment – they’ll do some more checks on her heart tomorrow … everything else checks out fine but she had very low blood-pressure …

    Very unnerving to say the least …

    The lesson of course is get basic first aid training NOW if you don’t already have it!

  169. July 25, 2016 10:20 pm

    sorry to hear that TB, must’ve been one hell of a fright, hope things are ok.

  170. July 25, 2016 10:28 pm

    tb,,,,,MY ARSE that was plain dumb management!,,,,,

    # ,, disagree, the 5or6 kids staying in their cells, 2 of which were playing cards, that was `willful` assault, gassing and child-abuse (5or6 counts of), the `one` kid going-off was the `only` kid the guards had `any` right to `take-action` with, and what they did was `over-kill`

    ,,,,,going to a TV interview without viewing ALL of the footage,,,,,

    # ,, blatant fcuking Lie, l reckon, he didn`t want to answer awkward questions

    # ,, hope all goes well with mrs-tb, over-night observation at hospital l take it

  171. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 25, 2016 10:38 pm

    Similar thing happened to my mum while we were at a shopping centre TB, we got an ambulance quick too.

    She was on antihypertensives and her B/P went too low the ambos said.

    It’s really scary!

    Sending best wishes and hope the minister is feeling better now and getting lots of TLC from hubby at home!

    I watched that too AO. Unbelievable!

    You can see how it can happen when there is widespread racism and prejudice throughout the NT and it’s government systems.

    The NT News is more worried about croc photos and hobnobbing with the people who think themselves important than doing any investigative reporting.

  172. TB Queensland permalink
    July 25, 2016 10:45 pm

    Yes, sreb, tbagz, she’s staying overnight but was looking fine when I took some things up for her … (watching bloody MasterChef!) 🙂

    She’s a Viking remember (born in Friesland) … tough as nails …

    Probably shouldn’t have popped in here … but … its so fkn quiet!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    disagree, the 5or6 kids staying in their cells etc etc …

    Disagree … tbagz ? NONE of what I saw should have happened … management created the situation … try sitting in your bedroom for a week and you’ll get a bit of an idea! And that’s comfortable (I hope?) 😉

    From The Minister down it was blatant child abuse, cruelty and unwarranted viciousness.

    They all should go!

  173. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 25, 2016 10:46 pm

    blatant fcuking Lie, l reckon, he didn`t want to answer awkward questions

    Me too, can’t go for plausible deniability if you do know anything about it.

    Training was the problem, he said – MY ARSE that was plain dumb management!

    It would’ve been the NT type training, full of racist hatred, attitudes and beliefs. The cops and correctional services people might as well wear KKK hoods [actually they have been accused of doing so in the past].

  174. TB Queensland permalink
    July 25, 2016 10:49 pm

    Thanks KL. Scary alright! She’ll get the TLC tomorrow … (we think?? hope?) 😉

    You can see how it can happen when there is widespread racism and prejudice throughout the NT and it’s government systems.

    Agree, KL, and it really does start with government policies and legislation and whoever the minister is administering it … (just have a look at Dopey Dutton) …

    Suspect a busy day tomorrow … sleep well everyone …

  175. Tom R permalink
    July 25, 2016 11:02 pm

    TB, all the best to your best. Hope she is feeling better tomorrow

    Sounds scary, but it quite often is really nothing. But always good to check it all out. You’re a lucky man to have such a support network around you. Although, I don’t think it is ‘luck’ that they are there when needed.

    But I do hope it doesn’t turn out to be anything serious.

  176. July 25, 2016 11:24 pm

    tb,,,,,try sitting in your bedroom for a week,,,,,

    # ,, yeah, fair point, l forgot that bit

    tb,,,,,From The Minister down it was blatant child abuse, cruelty and unwarranted viciousness. They all should go!,,,,,#agree

    ao,,,,,he NT and it’s government systems,,,,,

    # ,, don`t expect it to get any better, they `re-opened` for business in the asbestos saturated old berimah prison, no `foreseeable` problems there

    ao,,,,,doing any investigative reporting,,,,,

    # ,, what, you want nt-limited-news to `rebel` against the rest of the Limited-News monster (-:

  177. Compounded Fractures permalink
    July 26, 2016 12:54 am

    (Well you locked up 8,469 children last time. Most probably double that next time.

    Natural totalitarians never change their spots.)

  178. July 26, 2016 1:14 am

    (Wishing you and yours well, and better soon, too, TB.)

  179. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 26, 2016 6:01 am

    Thanks meta, the UN Convention on theRights of the Child is a wonderful document, pretty sure that no politician in this country [or any other] has taken much notice of it.

    More and more, I want to agitate for a Bill of Rights in Australia. The calibre of our politicians [mediocre people] and their obvious bias [white, middle aged males] means 50% of the population and minorities are not represented. The creeping religious influence in our politics and policies [spreading outwards] means our so-called democracy isn’t working and is unrepresentative for so many of us. Human rights have always been anathema to a liberal, they believe property and corporations have more rights than human beings.

  180. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 26, 2016 8:05 am

    Hope your wife is ok TB.

    I’ve always thought she must be wonderfully tolerant. A woman of tremendous forbearance

  181. Walrus permalink
    July 26, 2016 10:19 am

    Yeah

    I hope all goes well TB

  182. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 26, 2016 2:10 pm

    “it`s a pretty safe bet that splatts, ……… have catlick on their birth-certs.”

    Wrong again, Retardland. Methodist.

    +++++++++++

    All the best for the Minister, TB.

  183. TB Queensland permalink
    July 26, 2016 3:08 pm

    Thanks for your thoughts everyone (especially ToM) 😉 … still waiting for final tests …

  184. Walrus permalink
    July 26, 2016 6:26 pm

    Hellooooooooooooooooooo !

    Is there anybody out there ??????????????????????????

    Pretty quiet around here today

  185. July 26, 2016 7:19 pm

    yes it is isn’t it.

  186. July 26, 2016 7:58 pm

    my-abc,,,,,Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has announced he will establish a royal commission into Northern Territory juvenile detention after revelations raised on ABC`s Four Corner`s program,,,,,

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-26/turnbull-calls-for-royal-commission-into-don-dale/7660164

    # ,, of course he did, how else will a north-shore, water-front dwelling teabag be able to strut the international stage and convince everybody his off-shore gulags doesn`t treat captives any different to captives in his on-shore gulags, we have to keep-up the `superior-kristian` illusion don`tcha know

  187. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 26, 2016 8:41 pm

    Of course this has nothing for do with religion or Islam…

    POLICE say two men with knives have been shot dead after they took several people hostage in a church in a town in France’s northern Normandy region.

    According to French media reports in Le Point, sources said the men shouted “Daesh”, an Arabic word in its own right meaning ‘a group of bigots who impose their will on others’.

    http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/hostages-taken-in-french-church-in-normandy-region/news-story/77883e137bf0b52683640764527f5c96

  188. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 26, 2016 11:08 pm

    ACCC’s Rod Sims ‘exasparated’ as privatisations ‘increase prices’
    http://www.afr.com/news/economy/acccs-rod-sims-exasparated-as-privatisations-increase-prices-20160726-gqdyjv#ixzz4FVoOx9s1

    …The head of the competition regulator has called out governments for blatantly structuring asset sales to maximise profits at the expense of consumers and businesses.

    Australian Competition and Consumer Commission chairman Rod Sims said he had been a strong advocate of privatisation for 30 years because he believed it enhanced economic efficiency but he now believed “people in the street” who oppose privatisation because it raises prices had it right based on recent port sales in NSW.

    He said he was now “almost at the point of opposing privatisation” because state and federal governments were becoming increasingly blatant about structuring sales to maximise proceeds at the expense of competition…

    .https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/757891781673426944

  189. Walrus permalink
    July 27, 2016 9:37 am

    “# ,, of course he did, how else will a north-shore, water-front dwelling teabag be able to……………….”

    Teabagz,

    He lives in Point Piper……………….that’s Sydney’s Eastern Suburbs and certainly not North Shore

    http://www.domain.com.au/news/inside-malcolm-turnbulls-point-piper-mansion-20150206-137xhj/

  190. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 27, 2016 9:55 am

  191. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 27, 2016 10:06 am

    Beheading an elderly priest! Must have been asking for it… it’s a religion of peace you know

  192. Walrus permalink
    July 27, 2016 10:18 am

    “Beheading an elderly priest!”

    Clearly the work of extremist Catklicks

  193. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 27, 2016 10:55 am

    Ain’t multiculturalism grand? France is paying the price of having a large Muslim community.

  194. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 27, 2016 11:42 am

    Self-fisting leftist of the week goes to the BBC editor who came up with the headline: “Syrian Migrant Dies in German Blast”.

  195. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 27, 2016 11:49 am

    , of course he did, how else will a north-shore, water-front dwelling teabag be able to strut the international stage and convince everybody his off-shore gulags doesn`t treat captives any different to captives in his on-shore gulags

    The current off-shore gulags and the people locked up was done by the ALP from 2007-2013. ie the govt you voted for.

    There were only 6 boat people in detention in 2007

  196. Walrus permalink
    July 27, 2016 12:00 pm

    “Syrian Migrant Dies in German Blast”.

    And perhaps “Two Saudi Arabians on joyflight crash jetliners into World Trade Towers”

    Or ” Tunisian Truck Driver loses control of truck on Nice roadway”

  197. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 27, 2016 12:05 pm

    More like “Saudi migrants killed in New York building demolition”

    Or “Two Muslims die after walking into Catholic Church”

  198. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 27, 2016 2:08 pm

    Elderly Catholic priest dies of natural causes.

    (I mean, it’s only natural that they want to cut his head off)

  199. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 27, 2016 2:39 pm

    I go to the US from time to time. Maybe the people I know aren’t typical, because they all think Trump is drradful.

    He’d be a huge disaster

  200. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 27, 2016 2:40 pm

    …dreadful.

  201. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 27, 2016 3:03 pm

    Just heard on the radio that Tony Windsor and Rob Oakshot both got $70,000 because of the votes they got. Even though they lost.

  202. July 27, 2016 5:24 pm

    Thanks blubbers, (-:

    domain,,,,,,Like so many Australians, one of the wealthiest members of federal parliament has much of his money tied up in the family home, which in his case is a vast waterfront estate in Point Piper on a scale and grandeur similar to the nearby mansion Altona which sold for $52 million. Malcolm and Lucy Turnbull have proved to be savvy real estate investors,,,,,

    # ,, further down,

    domain,,,,,Agents familiar with the Point Piper market say the Turnbull home is in a similar price range to its waterfront neighbour. “It has all the same, key attributes as Altona in terms of size, quality of home, view and waterfrontage,,,,,

    # ,, okay it`s not `north-shore`, but is `east-shore`, which really only reinforces my previous spouting, not diminish it (-: (-: (-: #micro.details (-: (-: (-:

  203. July 27, 2016 5:42 pm

    While hanging-out with the `surfing-pinkists` at venice-beach sounds lovely, they`re probably not the largest `demographic` (-:

  204. Walrus permalink
    July 27, 2016 5:59 pm

    “Julie Bishop recognises that it’s in Australia’s national interest to support Kevin Rudd,”

    – Penny Wong July 2016

    However, for too long, Kevin Rudd has been putting his own self-interest ahead of the interests of the broader labour movement and the country as a whole, and that needs to stop.”

    – Wayne Swan February 2012

    “Rudd wasn’t someone who was easy to work with in that way, and his vanity and his exercise of power as prime minister was contrary ultimately, to me, to what good leadership is………….He was [a megalomaniac]. I am not the only one to think it either…………So I am critical of him that’s true, I am very critical but for good reason……………His career is a series of passionate embraces of issues that he then walks away from of you know running government one way in a certain direction and then turning around and heading off in another direction a couple of days later,”

    -Peter Garrett October 2015

  205. July 27, 2016 6:03 pm

    While keeping-up the `superior-kristian` illusion, and strutting the international stage, the EAST-shore, water-front dwelling teabag may be requested to supply VIDEO of his off-shore gulags treatment of captives, to prove they are treated as `good` as his on-shore gulags captives.

  206. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 27, 2016 6:24 pm

    PJ O”Rourke was speaker the the National Press Club today, hilarious and insightful – such a pointed (conservative) observer.

  207. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 27, 2016 6:26 pm

    And Bill Clinton’s speech at the Democrat convention – that guy knows how to deliver great sentiment, pity he can’t run. But Hilary will do well with Bill running international policy

  208. Walrus permalink
    July 27, 2016 6:33 pm

    “But Hilary will do well with Bill running international policy”

    And all the new hiring of interns that will be required

  209. July 27, 2016 6:50 pm

    l agree blubbers, bill is hanging-out for the fresh interns (-:

    # ,, hillary won`t make it, bernies opening sounded desperate, and his `followers` weren`t buying it, they`ll stay-home or go the-ronald, they`re NOT `establishment` voters

  210. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 27, 2016 7:04 pm

    VIDEO of his off-shore gulags treatment of captives,

    I dealt with this comment before. They are not his off-shore gulags they are yours. It was the ALP the party you voted for who locked up 50,000 boat people.

  211. TB Queensland permalink
    July 27, 2016 7:21 pm

    Lots of “look over there’s” here … when the BIG story is right here at home … well in the NT (and STATES!) …

    The Labor senator Pat Dodson has called on Malcolm Turnbull to widen the royal commission into Northern Territory juvenile detention to examine systemic practices across all states, while making the link between juvenile detention and Australia’s treatment of asylum seekers.

    At the same time, the conservative Liberal senator Cory Bernardi has urged the prime minister to examine the “system and parenting” that resulted in the children being held in detention at the Don Dale facility.

    In his weekly newsletter, Bernardi suggested children had been left with dysfunctional families because “authorities are fearful of being accused of racism or similar slurs by PC [politically correct] leftists”.

    What an uneducated, ill informed, isolated, Dickhead Bernardi is …

  212. July 27, 2016 7:27 pm

    Ohhhhhhhh TEABAGs!!!!

    my-abc,,,,,,Police are investigating multiple child abuse allegations levelled directly against Australia’s most senior Catholic cleric Cardinal George Pell, the ABC’s 7.30 program has revealed.

    Key points

    * Victoria Police investigating multiple complaints of sexual abuse by Cardinal George Pell * Complaints range from the 1970s to the 1990s, when Pell established the Catholic Church’s response to sexual abuse allegations * Pell describes the claims as “totally untrue and utterly wrong”

    Victoria Police’s Taskforce SANO, which investigates complaints coming out of the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse, has been examining the allegations by complainants from Ballarat, Torquay and Melbourne for more than a year,,,,,

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-27/victoria-police-investigating-george-pell-over-abuse-complaints/7664674

  213. July 27, 2016 7:35 pm

    Where is he????? Where is `my` fcuking pedo-defending Teabag???? Yes, the teabag from boltland???? Come-Out, Come-Out, where ever you are.

  214. July 27, 2016 8:36 pm

    lt was absolutely fcuking delicious that reportland showed the clip of john-w defending his pedo-mate pell tonight, l hope it gets replayed loudly and often.

  215. July 27, 2016 9:15 pm

    When an east-shore, water-front dwelling teabag takes `occupancy` of his prime-meddlers office, certain items are attached to his office by default and cannot be separated from his office, his on-shore gulags, his off-shore gulags, his vietnam-like wars predestined to absolute failure, and his party negotiated preconditions that hang around his neck millstone-like. Other items `may` at first-look appear to be attached to his office, such as a long-term opposition leader, but they are not. #yaaay.blib

  216. TB Queensland permalink
    July 27, 2016 9:24 pm

    Cardinal Pell …

    nuff said …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’m a little surprised that it took IS so long to take on a “soft” Catholic church … and a poor old bugger who was 81 years old … not something to “joke” about I would think … but by all accounts someone to admire … condolences to his family …

    The same pattern emerges … suspect arrested, jailed, released, poorly monitored and an attack …

    Pollies and PS around the world are so incompetent it really is becoming frightening … almost like a “plan” with so much – “coincidence” ‘..

  217. Walrus permalink
    July 28, 2016 9:37 am

    “Cardinal Pell …

    nuff said … ”

    More like …………….

    ABC

    nuff said

    I suppose 7:30 Report ran it in between it daily reports on “Man Made Climate Change” and its weekly “Australia is Full of Racists” segments

  218. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 28, 2016 10:16 am

    Coal is behind the attacks on wind turbines. It’s fighting for its life
    http://www.theage.com.au/comment/coal-is-behind-the-attacks-on-wind-turbines-its-fighting-for-its-life-20160727-gqeln3.html

    …The complaint is about spot prices, those instant short-lived prices the big industrial users have to pay if they haven’t insured against sudden movements, as a lot have not. Spot prices did indeed jump into the stratosphere a week or so back when the wind wasn’t blowing. The typical spot price facing an industrial customer is $100 per megawatt hour. Suddenly they faced $14,000 – a more than 100-fold increase. Ever since South Australia closed its last coal-fired power plants and mothballed its newest and most efficient gas plant it has had to import extra power from interstate when the wind has been low.

    Normally, this isn’t much of a problem, but as it happened the main cable used to import power from the eastern states was operating way below capacity when the wind dropped. It was being upgraded from a maximum capacity of 460 to 650 megawatts. That’ll mean fewer problems in the future, but it created an awfully big problem at the time. So much so that the South Australian government directed the Pelican Point gas-fired power near Adelaide to get back on line.

    It had been closed because the owner could make more money selling its gas contracts to exporters. So South Australia faced special circumstances. The gas export boom had closed one backup power supply and work on upgrading a line had closed another…

    …And guess which industry has been most heavily promoting the canary in the coalmine argument? Yes, the coal industry, through the Minerals Council of Australia…

    …That’s the future facing our traditional generators as more turbines get built. Not blackouts, not big price spikes, but extinction. I reckon it’s the real reason their friends are upset…

    Turnbull government’s green shift to back renewables:
    http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/turnbull-governments-green-shift-to-back-renewables-20160727-gqf6kv.html

    …And he has stated that recent price spikes in South Australia – where energies such as wind and solar power make up 40 per cent plus of supply, and Tasmania where the figure is above to 90 per cent – were not solely the fault of high renewable energy dependencies but to a “complex of factors” including the failure of other energy distribution infrastructure such as Basslink, as well as the effects of drought, a cold snap, and high gas prices arising from inadequate supplies and suppliers…

    Hillary Clinton is copping the same sexist rubbish as Julia Gillard:
    http://www.theage.com.au/comment/clinton-is-coping-the-same-sexist-rubbish-as-gillard-20160727-gqeolc.html

    …At the Republican Convention last week, attendees had the chance to wear their sexist derision for Hillary Clinton with pride. Just outside, hawkers sold T-shirts emblazoned with “Trump vs Tramp”, bumper stickers proclaiming “Life’s a bitch, don’t vote for one,” and the badges printed with “KFC Hillary Special: 2 fat thighs, 2 small breasts, one left wing”…

  219. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2016 11:08 am

    AO- Hillary Clinton is copping the same sexist rubbish as Julia Gillard:

    “Trump vs Tramp”, bumper stickers proclaiming “Life’s a bitch, don’t vote for one,” and the badges printed with “KFC Hillary Special: 2 fat thighs, 2 small breasts, one left wing”…

    I think those stickers and badges are outrageous.

    But can you identify when people displayed similar badges and stickers about Gillard?

  220. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2016 11:14 am

    I don’t think we have an equivalent of the masses of Trump supporters here, perhaps only pockets of Queensland that supported Palmer.

    I don’t think mainstream politics in Australia has any similarity to the bizarre Trump circus and it’s appeal to some in the USA

  221. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 11:22 am

    I suppose 7:30 Report ran it in between it daily reports on “Man Made Climate Change” and its weekly “Australia is Full of Racists” segments

    Unions == BOO! or “Will Bob Shorton survive as leader NOW()?”

    The only difference is, the exampled you used are based in facts, the ones I used are based on … wishes?

    But can you identify when people displayed similar badges and stickers about Gillard?

    I guess that’s the main difference, the attacks here emanated from the liberal party itself, not crazies with stickers

  222. Walrus permalink
    July 28, 2016 11:29 am

    “But can you identify when people displayed similar badges and stickers about Gillard?”

    I think the Lefties are trying to parallel it with the famous Chicken Menu similarly describing that grub Gillard.

    But they conveniently forget that Germaine Greer on Q&A also spoke of the size of Gillard’s arse

  223. Walrus permalink
    July 28, 2016 11:31 am

    The difference between Clinton and the grub we know as Gillard is that Gillard was pretty well universally loathed (hence they got rid of her) but not so Clinton

  224. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2016 11:33 am

    That’s true and maybe that’s a fair point. But people like Palmer/Trump have marginal appeal here.

    Trump is an awful prospect. Ego overwhelms judgement

  225. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 28, 2016 11:51 am

    “What an uneducated, ill informed, isolated, Dickhead Bernardi TB is …”

    Bernardi, on the other hand is correct. It is about time to look at the massive contribution of leftist PC fuckwits to the destruction of families, with predictable outcomes.

  226. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 12:00 pm

    I think the Lefties are trying to parallel it with the famous Chicken Menu similarly describing that grub Gillard.

    Amongst others, one of which you highlighted.

    Oh how we yearn for the idyllic days of peaceful reflection on the size and shape of the PM’s earlobes.

  227. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2016 12:35 pm

    Yeah! Not to menion the hair on Abbott’s chest

    I recall a former contributor saying- hubby wears board shorts, so should Abbott

    Thereby demonstrating complete ignorance about the difference between ocean swimming/surf lifesaving and paddling in the shallows

  228. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 28, 2016 12:45 pm

    I find it amazing that in a country of 300 million people the USA cannot get better candidates. I guess talented people do not want to put up with the abuse no matter what you do.

  229. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 12:59 pm

    Yeah! Not to menion the hair on Abbott’s chest

    Well, if he stopped his ‘virility’ angle, we wouldn’t have to see it, would we

  230. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2016 1:17 pm

    What…people that participate in physical activity such as surf lifesaving are displaying a virility angle?

    All those volunteers at the beach that rescue drowning drunks and pull people in from a rip are just doing it to prove virility?

    That’s actually f**king ridiculous

    Why do left types hate volunteers so much?

  231. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2016 1:21 pm

    At the Pier to Pub a couple of years ago, I saw Steve Bracks and John Thwaites participating in the swim.

    Bracks had on one of those small wetsuits that display the back fat, Thwaits was wearing speedos. Those blokes weren’t just swimming in an event with thousands of other people, they were displaying their “virility angle”!!

  232. Walrus permalink
    July 28, 2016 1:26 pm

    “…..they were displaying their “virility angle”!!

    LOL………….Obviously

  233. Walrus permalink
    July 28, 2016 1:32 pm

    “Why do left types hate volunteers so much?”

    Surf Life Savers
    Country Fire Authority
    Salvation Army ?????

  234. Walrus permalink
    July 28, 2016 1:34 pm

    Tony Abbott was a member of the New South Wales Rural Fire Service.

    So we can add them to the list too

  235. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 1:36 pm

    All those volunteers at the beach that rescue drowning drunks and pull people in from a rip are just doing it to prove virility?

    How many sent a callout to reporters to attend these events?

    We know yabot was famous for that.

    Also, I don’t recall too many major news outlets focussing on that, in fact, most comments towards that were wtte, why focus on Gillard and her body, when yabots running around half naked half the time?

  236. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 1:37 pm

    “Why do left types hate the politicization of volunteers so much?”

  237. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 1:42 pm

  238. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2016 1:54 pm

    Really? We know he called reporters? Which ones?

  239. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 28, 2016 2:05 pm

    “The difference between Clinton and the grub we know as Gillard is that Gillard was pretty well universally loathed (hence they got rid of her) but not so Clinton”

    Two thirds of Americans don’t trust Klintoon. The other third are obviously very gullible.

  240. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 2:07 pm

    Which ones?

    You can be sure murdochs minions would have been top of the list

  241. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2016 2:15 pm

    We’ll… I’ll have to take your infallible word for it, because you have no idea.
    ————–
    On the other hand, ALP/unions mistrust volunteers. Just look at the way (that dill) Danny Andrews treated the volunteers at the CFA. Just look at the broadly directed disparaging remarks about surf lifesavers in speedos, the hostility that the HEF shows towards hospital volunteers, the restrictions teacher unions seek to place on parent’s associations in schools

    The left don’t trust volunteers – probably because they think all work should be paid.

  242. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 28, 2016 2:21 pm

    “Why do left types hate the politicization of volunteers so much?”

    Bullshit. The CFA got shafted because Andrews and the UFU are Unionland mongrels.

  243. July 28, 2016 2:26 pm

    blubbering,,,,,,,,,,,,,ABC ,, ,, nuff said ,, ,, I suppose 7:30 Report ran it in between it daily reports on `Man Made Climate Change` and its weekly `Australia is Full of Racists` segments,,,,,,,,,,,,

    # ,, l suppose some prefer to jump straight into the deep-end of `catlick-pedo-defending` instead of `actually` watching reportland now-a-days #i.suppose

  244. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 2:27 pm

    treated the volunteers at the CFA

    He didn’t treat them in any way. That was all in the minds of politicians and journalists.

    The left don’t trust volunteers

    Why is then that not for profits are always targetted only by the libs?

    So, apart from within your head, it seems the ones who don’t like volunteers are libs, who are happy to use them for political purposes, but are their worst enemy when the rubber hits the road.

    Has saintmal done anything about the non existent issue with the CFA yet?

  245. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2016 2:32 pm

    the non existent issue with the CFA

    Yeah! non existent alright.
    * The responsible ALP minister resigned rather than submit to Andrews
    * There was a Supreme Court injunction against the agreement
    * The CFA Board resigned rather than sign the toxic agreement
    * The CEO was forced out
    * The CFO was forced out

    …still as long as Danny’s union mates are happy, it’s all fine.

  246. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 2:34 pm

    Unionland mongrels.

    lol, yea, that’s it ROFL

    You mean all those ‘mongrels’ who are constantly being set free from the turc rubbish charges? THOSE mongrels, whose biggest sin appears to be innocence.

  247. July 28, 2016 2:37 pm

    teabag,,,,,people like Palmer/Trump have,,,,,

    # ,, Wrong Comparison

    # ,, try abbott/trump

    teabag,,,,,Trump is an awful prospect. Ego overwhelms judgement,,,,,

    # ,, never stopped rabbit

    # ,, the-ronald is running the rabbit `play-book`

  248. July 28, 2016 2:49 pm

    teabag,,,,,can you identify when people displayed similar badges and stickers about Gillard?,,,,,

    # ,, rabbit and friends standing in front of `ditch-the-b/w-itch` signs not enough for`ya dummy?????

  249. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 2:52 pm

    CFA Board resigned … because they couldn’t accept that they had issues, and preferred to ignore the recommendations from the commission into the Victorian forest fires.

  250. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 2:52 pm

    # ,, rabbit and friends standing in front of `ditch-the-b/w-itch` signs not enough for`ya dummy?????

    Yep, the stoopid, it burns.

  251. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2016 2:55 pm

    preferred to ignore the recommendations from the commission into the Victorian forest fires.

    We have discussed that point before and I looked at the report, and you had nothing

    But apparently the ALP minister wanted to ignore that too, so did the ALP appointed CEO

  252. July 28, 2016 2:57 pm

    pom-poms,,,,,,,Will Bob Shorton survive as leader NOW,,,,,

    # ,, blib is safe, he will successfully manage them thru their decade in the wilderness with many claims of `nearly-victory` along the way, the team has stuck gold so rapidly in finding in finding their very-own `beazley` replacement, learning the lesson of `cleaning-house` will not be anywhere near as rapid #yaaay.blib

  253. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2016 3:03 pm

    And Tom R, where in the Royal Commission Report does it recommend to come up with an EBA that requires about a hundred clauses requiring reaching union agreement?

  254. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 3:07 pm

    We have discussed that point before and I looked at the report, and you had nothing

    This is yomms ‘nothing’

    But Tom R thinks, it’s only about them not doing what the Royal Commission recommended!!

    https://theguttertrash.com/2016/06/30/its-the-election/#comment-129360

  255. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 3:19 pm

    reaching union agreement?

    What the fuck happened to “VETO!!” ROFL

    Oh, was that bullshit?

  256. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 3:25 pm

    From ao’s link to Peter Martin, this was interesting

    On the face of it, it’s an odd idea: that adding a new and very cheap source of power should push up prices (wind turbines cost next to nothing to operate). And for the record, it’s not true. South Australia has more wind turbines than any other state. They supply more than one-third of its power. Yet a graph prepared by the Australian National University’s Hugh Saddler shows that South Australia’s average electricity price was much higher when they only provided 10 per cent.

    Cos, that’s what I said before also. We’ve had crap power issues for years in SA, they were always bad, but they got atrocious once we privatised. Renewables, as shown by Peter Martin, is way of fixing this.

  257. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2016 3:28 pm

    Are you kidding? If one party is required to reach agreement with another about hundreds of items, the agreement can be withheld – therefore they are able to veto decisions.

  258. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 28, 2016 3:37 pm

    Renewables, as shown by Peter Martin, is way of fixing this.

    Peter martin is almost as corrupt as Stephen Koukoulas.

    Any body who believes anything these two people say is also as corrupt as they are

  259. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 3:41 pm

    the agreement can be withheld

    It is always at the discrimination of the Fair Work commission, therefore, there is no veto!

    The Union may not agree, but the agreement can still progress.

    I thought you worked in this field yomm?

  260. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 3:42 pm

    Peter martin is almost as corrupt as Stephen Koukoulas.
    Any body who believes anything these two people say is also as corrupt as they are

  261. July 28, 2016 3:48 pm

    blubbers,,,,,,,,the grub we know as Gillard is that Gillard was pretty well universally loathed,,,,,

    # ,, hillary is very well known and has very strong opinion of her, LOVE or HATE

    ,,,,,Life`s a bitch, don`t vote for one,,,,,

    # ,, this type of crap will be used and hillary-cheerers will try to play the `feminista-card`, `misogyny-card` or `whatever-card` to no avail, as the rednecks and crackers have already lined-up behind the-ronald during the teabag-preselections

    # ,, ultimately, this election is for the-ronald to lose, not hillary to win

  262. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2016 3:49 pm

    Oh…ffs

    What world do you inhabit?

    FWA will determine the operational decisions and hear from the union and management? But 90% of the firefighting resources are volunteers

  263. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 3:54 pm

    What world do you inhabit?

    The one where “veto” means what it says. The union has no power of veto, unless you can show somewhere how?

    But 90% of the firefighting resources are volunteers

    And what % of fires are fought by them?

  264. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 28, 2016 4:02 pm

    “lol, yea, that’s it ROFL”

    Yep. That’s what a troll does!

    A decent minister would, of course, sacrifice her career rather than be complicit in Unionland bastardry. But Tom the Troll just rolls around laughing!

  265. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 4:11 pm

    Unionland bastardry

    Protecting fire fighters safety, in line with a Royal Commissions findings, is “Unionland bastardry” 😯

  266. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2016 5:15 pm

    And an ALP minister resigned… rather than sign it. Why do you ignore that fact?

  267. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2016 5:23 pm

    …and perhaps just point out exactly where this agreement was recommended by the Royal Commission

  268. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 6:01 pm

    …and perhaps just point out exactly where this agreement was recommended by the Royal Commission

    Just for the record, it is the other way around. …………….and

    But Tom R thinks, it’s only about them not doing what the Royal Commission recommended!!
    https://theguttertrash.com/2016/06/30/its-the-election/#comment-129360

  269. Walrus permalink
    July 28, 2016 6:30 pm

    Hey TomRoll,

    Your answer missed a bit………..

    “And an ALP minister resigned… rather than sign it. Why do you ignore that fact?

    Care to answer ToM’s question ?

  270. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 6:48 pm

    Care to answer ToM’s question ?

    Well, considering I have no idea about the personal or ootherwise machinations behind the decision, how can I?

    Of course, I could speculate, but I’ll stick with the facts.

    Which is, the Union is putting forward a proposal that adds safety to professionals (and, by extension, volunteers) working conditions

    In a manner of what the Royal Commission recommended.

    Is that enough of an answer for you?

    I’ll put my money on ‘not’ 😉

  271. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 28, 2016 8:09 pm

    I think the Lefties are trying to parallel it with the famous Chicken Menu similarly describing that grub Gillard. But they conveniently forget that Germaine Greer on Q&A also spoke of the size of Gillard’s arse

    So if germaine makes a sexist remark that makes it OK for everyone else to follow suit?

    Oh how we yearn for the idyllic days of peaceful reflection on the size and shape of the PM’s earlobes.

    Yes, tomm was a prime offender there, her earlobes, the way she spoke, the way she walked, her wardrobe wasn’t up to fif’i’s couture either, her bosom and decollete, her hair colour, pretty much every thing she did and everything she said wasn’t it tomM?

    She has now been proven to have presided over a much more stable government than abbott could ever hope for, despite all the sexism that was fueled by abbott and his flunkies.

    I really haven’t noticed any commentary on any of the other woman in parliament, then or since. Certainly no-one is telling us how bad the blokes look in their outfits or how they wear their hair [the rare ones who have any]. I haven’t heard anything about what I think is quite inappropriate work wear of the foreign minister julie bishop, who often looks like she’s off to a hollywood event, dressed by the same designers too. Or those long, large pearl bobbydazzler earrings that really don’t suit her at all. Nope, no-one has said anything in word or print, here or in the media.

    Gillard was a swot, she was more into policy than dressing for male pleasure. If she had a suitable neat and tidy outfit showcasing an aussie designer that also happened to be comfortable to wear all day, she was happy.

    # ,, rabbit and friends standing in front of `ditch-the-b/w-itch` signs not enough for`ya dummy?????

    Yes

    .

  272. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2016 8:14 pm

    “pretty much every thing she did and everything she said wasn’t it tomM?

    Yes, I don’t like bogans.

  273. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2016 8:59 pm

    Which recommendation of the Royal Commission proposed this agreement?

  274. July 28, 2016 9:20 pm

    AO,,,,,Nope, no-one has said anything in word or print, here or in the media,,,,,

    # ,, keep waiting patiently armchair, sooner or later an antique-feminista will turn-up on qandaland and screech about malcoms-arse and malcolms-jackets, once that`s done with, malcolm will have to face-down loud-mouth radio-dills over Lucy`s implied `lesbian-ness` and `sham` marriage-partnership. (-:

  275. Tom R permalink
    July 28, 2016 9:34 pm

    Which recommendation of the Royal Commission proposed this agreement?

    You really are digging a hole aren’t you yomm.

    The Royal Commission didn’t propose THIS agreement. But even someone with blinkers wrapped as tight as yours could see that.

    It did propose unambiguous command and control

    Which some idiot tried to argue away with

    I think “unambiguous command and control” is quite different to giving the union the right of veto over operational decisions.

    Which, as we have seen, isn’t related to the actual point, and, even worst, is just plain bullshit. There is no veto.

    But, the agreement does give “unambiguous command and control” to professional firies in certain circumstances.

    Which aligns with the recommendations.

    And which certain, and becoming more obviously minor, sections of the CFA seem to bristle at.

    In the end, it is about firefighters safety. Which becomes obvious when you note that these elements in CFA have now largely quit rather than stand for a principle that is obviously flawed, and is backed by a political party who have NEVER cared for grunts safety or conditions.

  276. July 28, 2016 11:00 pm

    but,but,but, ,, according to pell on telly news, ,, its `all a conspiracy by my abc and boltland plod for a, ,, wait for it, ,, a `trial`by media #guffaw

  277. July 29, 2016 1:07 am

    the orourke press club is being re-run, yep, quite funny (-:

  278. July 29, 2016 7:28 am

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  279. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 29, 2016 8:23 am

    Unambiguous command and control apparently means consult and agree!

    The English language, amaing!

  280. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 29, 2016 9:20 am

    “but I’ll stick with the facts party line. As the world’s best troll, I owe it to my Unionland paymasters not to deviate from the party line.”

  281. Walrus permalink
    July 29, 2016 9:54 am

    “Nailed it.”

    For a very smart guy Turnbull cant even make the most simple decision to tell Rudd to fuck off. The ALP told us he was a complete and utter madman

    Unbelievable…………………..what is there to think about ?

    And if the argument goes that denying Rudd goes against precedent………………..then surely it shows just how fucked precedents are……………………..afterall we are just talking about jobs for the boys/girls within the Beltway

    People are fucking fed up with politicians treating decisions affecting themselves as somehow more important than running the cuntry.

  282. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 29, 2016 10:11 am

    # ,, keep waiting patiently armchair, sooner or later an antique-feminista will turn-up on qandaland and screech about malcoms-arse and malcolms-jackets, once that`s done with, malcolm will have to face-down loud-mouth radio-dills over Lucy`s implied `lesbian-ness` and `sham` marriage-partnership.

    Yeah, wasn’t that a time for our media jocks to shine.

    The only time malcolm’s suit has been mentioned has been when abbott’s observed that he’s got better ones than those hair suits that he wears [another ‘donation’ that he accepts]

    NT Juvenile Detention Abuse Royal Commissioner Needs No Introduction To Black Territorians
    https://newmatilda.com/2016/07/28/nt-juvenile-detention-abuse-royal-commissioner-needs-no-introduction-to-black-territorians/

  283. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 29, 2016 10:17 am

    The ALP told us he was a complete and utter madman

    http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3438348.htm

    STEPHEN CONROY, COMMUNICATIONS MINISTER: Kevin Rudd had contempt for the cabinet, contempt for the cabinet members, contempt for the caucus, contempt for the Parliament. And ultimately what brought him down a year or two ago was the Australian public worked out that he had contempt for them as well.

  284. Walrus permalink
    July 29, 2016 10:22 am

    “……And ultimately what brought him down a year or two ago was the Australian public worked out that he had contempt for them as well………”

    Yep

    And Turnbull has to ignore the political risk of throwing Rudd supporter Julie Bishop “under a bus” if he tells Rudd to fuck off.

    Afterall with her supporting Rudd she’s the one that ran out in front of the “bus” in the first place

  285. Walrus permalink
    July 29, 2016 10:27 am

    And again on precedent. Anthony Albanese’s hypocrisry is totally exposed by the way he blocked John Howard’s approach to become the first head of the NRL

    “The brutal execution of John Howard’s hope to be the Chief Commissioner for a new independent Rugby League Commission by the Labor Left hard man, the Federal MP Anthony Albanese, was totally predictable.”

    http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/24/john-howard-is-out-of-his-rugby-league/

  286. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 29, 2016 10:38 am

  287. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 29, 2016 11:06 am

    The rumour is that NBN Mark 2 was thought up on a plane flight. The reason it was done this way was because Conroy could never get time with Rudd so he could make a decision so he managed to lasso him on a lane flight. Rudd was totally disfunctional. There may be some similarities between Rudd and Turnbull

  288. July 29, 2016 11:28 am

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  289. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 29, 2016 11:29 am

    Australia’s sporting bodies: big bucks and the same old faces
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jul/29/griffith-review-essay-see-how-they-run-sports-governance-in-australia?CMP=share_btn_tw

    …In a major essay for the Griffith Review on sports governance, Gideon Haigh finds that despite a demanding fan base and TV money supporting multimillion-dollar businesses, much of Australian sport still relies on a ‘curious mix of cosy privilege and noblesse oblige’…

    …‘You look at these boards and committees, and it’s always the same set of white male faces, from the same schools, the same universities, the same metropolitan circles,” complained a senior manager at a big sport. “Where is the cultural diversity, the regional diversity, the educational and social diversity?”

    Not to mention gender diversity, because in this respect sporting Australia makes corporate Australia look like a bunch of lesbian separatists. The proportion of women on the boards of sports organisations has only recently grown beyond the derisory, and mainly through coercion. Under Winning Edge, the ASC mandated that each national sporting organisation “should seek to achieve a target of 40% representation of females on their boards” by 2015 – a target the ASC itself actually failed to achieve, its nine-member board featuring just three women…

  290. Walrus permalink
    July 29, 2016 11:56 am

    “If governments want fewer Don Dale correction centres, then take a tougher stand on school attendance, welfare to work and enabling real economies in Indigenous communities where enterprise can grow. And implement mandatory diversionary programs for juvenile offenders, requiring them to go into jobs and education instead of detention.”

    -Warren Mundine AO

    Read more: http://www.afr.com/opinion/a-royal-commission-satisfies-the-outrage-of-the-elites-20160728-gqg97k#ixzz4Fl73Ew3d

  291. Tom R permalink
    July 29, 2016 12:10 pm

    As the world’s best troll

    Do I get a plaque at least?

    afterall we are just talking about jobs for the boys/girls within the Beltway

    Not that I would want to see rudd unloaded on any other poor souls, the fact that they unloaded the likes of hockey and downer on other countries doesn’t really support them saying no in this case. And if they do, should not be surprised at the cries of hypocrisy that will, quite rightly, arise.

    Anthony Albanese’s hypocrisry

    Are you able to highlight the hypocritical point in relation to Anthony Albanese?

    The rumour is that NBN Mark 2 was thought up on a plane flight.

    Does it really matter? I mean, the idea of facebook came up at the pub. Ideas germinate anywhere/everywhere.

    Look to the implementation. By any measure, the ALP’s rollout was far superior to the dogs breakfast going on now.

  292. Tom R permalink
    July 29, 2016 12:18 pm

    Very brave/stupid of malcayman. Doesn’t he remember what rudd did to his own party when he was crossed?

    Turnbull government won’t nominate Kevin Rudd for UN secretary-general role

    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2016-07/28/21/asset/buzzfeed-prod-web01/sub-buzz-20023-1469757222-1.jpg?resize=625:417&no-auto

  293. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 29, 2016 12:35 pm

    Does it really matter?

    It shows how disfunctional Rudd was. His own Ministers had trouble meeting him. Conroy could only latch on to him on a plane flight.

    By any measure, the ALP’s rollout was far superior to the dogs breakfast going on now.

    By any measure? There were only 100,000 homes connected to the NBN when Labor lost office. Only 12 million to go.

  294. Tom R permalink
    July 29, 2016 12:37 pm

    nil, you should probably refrain from exposing your unique stupidity quite so often.

    #justsaying

  295. Walrus permalink
    July 29, 2016 12:43 pm

    “And if they do, should not be surprised at the cries of hypocrisy that will, quite rightly, arise.”

    So Rudd is no longer a madman is that now the case?

  296. Tom R permalink
    July 29, 2016 12:49 pm

    So Rudd is no longer a madman is that now the case?

    WOW, talk about ignorantly oblivious to what was written.

    NO, I am definitely not saying that.

    I am simply saying, he’s not the ONLY madman, and others have been given very high profile roles that affect our relationship with other trading partners

  297. Walrus permalink
    July 29, 2016 12:54 pm

    “WOW, talk about ignorantly oblivious to what was written.”

    Perhaps because its not worth responding to.

    But you are quite OK with a madman in charge of the UN.

  298. Walrus permalink
    July 29, 2016 12:56 pm

    And you conveniently forget that Tony Abbott extended Kim Beazley’s appointment.

  299. Tom R permalink
    July 29, 2016 12:58 pm

    Perhaps because its not worth responding to.

    But ‘feeding teh troll” is just too alluring, aint it 😉

    And you conveniently forget that Tony Abbott extended Kim Beazley’s appointment.

    Up until hockley needed a ‘none leaning’ position, yea…. not so much

  300. Tom R permalink
    July 29, 2016 12:59 pm

    And you conveniently forget to explain about Anthony Albanese

  301. Walrus permalink
    July 29, 2016 1:03 pm

    “And you conveniently forget to explain about Anthony Albanese”

    Not at all. Why did he block Howard’s appointment to the NRL board but is now in favour of a madman ruling the World

  302. Tom R permalink
    July 29, 2016 1:19 pm

    Why did he block Howard’s appointment to the NRL board

    Could it be because Albanese knows rugby, unlike howard, and knew he would be a poor choice.

    But yes, he shouldn’t have got involved. pollies should stay out of those things, at all times. Because, IF howard had got the job, after bank rolling them, how would that look?

    I note he never got the job though, even after Albanese stopped interfering.

    I’d also add, it is poor choices like this made by Albanese that highlight why Shorten was the better choice.

  303. Walrus permalink
    July 29, 2016 1:33 pm

    “Could it be because Albanese knows rugby”

    It’s Rugby League not Rugby Union………. and Albanese ( a South Sydney supporter) knows about as much about it as Howard (a St George-Illawarra supporter)

  304. Tom R permalink
    July 29, 2016 1:43 pm

    It’s Rugby League not Rugby Union

    Don’t the fellas spend most of the game with their heads stuck up their team mates arses in both codes.

    Seems the same enough to me 😉

  305. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 29, 2016 3:30 pm

    “Don’t the fellas spend most of the game with their heads stuck up their team mates arses in both codes.”

    Don’t criticise it until you’ve been there!

  306. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 29, 2016 3:32 pm

    Just giving you a heads up, Tom R.

  307. July 29, 2016 3:50 pm

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  308. Tom R permalink
    July 29, 2016 3:51 pm

    Just giving you a heads up, Tom R.

    😆 😆

  309. Tom R permalink
    July 29, 2016 3:53 pm

    Good to see the Coalition’s 1st Cabinet meeting was water-tight

    Good to see they are so divided and crystal on what is really a minor matter.

    Imagine if they had to formulate a response to a GFC or something with actuall consequence.

    Actually, that would be easy come to think of it.

    “Rupe, wadda we do now!”

  310. Tom R permalink
    July 29, 2016 4:17 pm

  311. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 29, 2016 5:01 pm

    Who gave ex lib leader Brenda Nelson his current role?

    “…And you conveniently forget that Tony Abbott extended Kim Beazley’s appointment…”

    Who pulled out ex vic premier Steve bracks?

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/former-victorian-premier-steve-bracks-sacked-by-julie-bishop-in-vindictive-decision-20130909-2tgtp.html

  312. Co-Operative Fuderalism permalink
    July 29, 2016 5:08 pm

    (More conciliation…Don Dale: NT Government withdraws counter-claims against detainees, Chief Minister’s office says

    AND We further declare that you are not required by these Our Letters Patent to inquire, or to continue to inquire, into a particular matter to the extent that you are satisfied that the matter has been, is being, or will be, sufficiently and appropriately dealt with by another inquiry or investigation or a criminal or civil proceeding.)

  313. Walrus permalink
    July 29, 2016 5:33 pm

    “Who pulled out ex vic premier Steve bracks?”

    And who supported Gareth Evans to be head of UNESCO

    The Howard government did. We could go on and on…………

    So we can therefore assume that had the ALP been in office they would have nominated Rudd to the UN ????????????????

    If so it means that …………..

    a) The World has just dodged a bullet

    b) The UN has just been saved from destruction

    c) Australia has just been saved from becoming a laughing stock around the World

    And finally it confirms that the ALP has not learnt one fucking thing from the last time it was in Office.

  314. Walrus permalink
    July 29, 2016 5:38 pm

    And its now being reported (in papers tomorrow apparentlt) that Turnbull told KRudd in early May that he was not going to be nominated. Turnbull apparently suggested to Rudd that he quietly slip away to avoid embarrassment.

    Rudd did no such thing hoping for an ALP election win and if not try and embarrass Turnbull post election by getting Bishop on side.

    Typical ego driven Rudd

  315. Walrus permalink
    July 29, 2016 5:49 pm

    No wonder South Australia is a financial basket case if this shit is the norm

    “HANDS off our schnitz.”

    “That’s the rallying cry of punters in Adelaide, where a bizarre plan has been hatched to crackdown on oversized portions of chicken schnitzel………The nanny state has hit its peak in South Australia, with government-funded waste watchdog Keep South Australia Beautiful calling for the serving size of the classic pub fare to be regulated………KSAB boss John Phillips says the organisation is in talks with the State Government to trial the measure, which would force pubs and restaurants to downsize their schnitz……”

    Obviously yet another wasteful government department in a bloated public service.

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/other-industries/bizarre-plan-to-regulate-the-size-of-chicken-schnitzels/news-story/8825a817e801eb3de7aee54a90dd6022

  316. Walrus permalink
    July 29, 2016 6:08 pm

    LOL…………now who first coined this slogan and got pilloried for it

    “Sometimes nation is more important than party, and we should take a ‘Team Australia’ approach to this issue,” Senator Wong told ABC AM.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-27/kevin-rudd's-bid-to-be-un-boss-set-for-cabinet-consideration/7665096

  317. Walrus permalink
    July 29, 2016 6:11 pm

    And then we have Kristina Kenneally on Kevin Rudd…………….

    “I’m just going to say what no other Labor figure – because they’re all still in office, won’t say, the man is a psychopathic narcissist and that’s not just my opinion, that’s the opinion of a whole range of people who are currently sitting in the parliament,” ………….I can think of 12 Australians off the top of my head who would be a better secretary-general and one of them is my Labrador so let’s be blunt here, she has a lot more empathy than Kevin Rudd.”

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/kristina-keneally-rudd-is-a-psychopathic-narcissist/news-story/fa86daa11496d6338e88e49810632ac1

    But the ALP insisted he be nominated

    The ALP have not learnt a fucking thing

  318. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 29, 2016 6:35 pm

    b) The UN has just been saved from destruction

    That is the only good reason to send Rudd to the UN

  319. July 29, 2016 8:19 pm

    blubbers,,,,,c) Australia has just been saved from becoming a laughing stock around the World,,,,

    # ,, too late, that horse has bolted

    ,,,,,b) The UN has just been saved from destruction,,,,,

    # ,, actually, that makes a good reason to send kevin07 (-:

  320. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 29, 2016 11:01 pm

    Oh well, it could have been worse, tony abbott might have wanted the job and we all know the loony right would have demanded his nomination 😮

    The Other People Opposed To Kevin Rudd’s UN Bid
    https://newmatilda.com/2016/07/29/the-other-people-opposed-to-kevin-rudds-un-bid/

  321. UN Suitable permalink
    July 29, 2016 11:03 pm

    (Presumably, a member nation providing a UNSG (candidate) might be expected to have its international obligations house in exemplary order; does Australia? Would that sort of calculus, perhaps, have some slight bearing on domestic decision-making, and, also, implications for a(n ir)responsible Government?)

  322. July 29, 2016 11:22 pm

    (Look closer dummy. A brexit-like UNexit might be the strategy of loud`n proud operators of gulags off-shore and on.)

  323. July 29, 2016 11:34 pm

    “Don’t criticise it until you’ve been there! Just giving you a heads up, Tom R.”

    Funny.

  324. July 29, 2016 11:35 pm

    AO,,,,,,it could have been worse, tony abbott might have wanted the job,,,,

    # ,, can`t happen armchair, rabbit would have to quit his seat, even the zombies know they can`t afford a by-election or/and seat-loss

  325. UN Suitable permalink
    July 30, 2016 1:00 am

    (# ,, can`t happen

    I don’t know, In my judgment you have neither the interpersonal skills or the temperament to be a UN secretary-general”, might cut both ways.

    Otherwise

    Bishop put a powerful case for Rudd’s nomination. She shot down the arguments of those ministers who had claimed Rudd was not qualified for the UN job. She quoted a submission from the new head of the foreign affairs department, Frances Adamson, supporting the nomination of Rudd. And she pointed out that the government should be concerned about the current favourite, Antonio Guterres, because he has been a strong critic of Australia’s asylum seeker policies as UN High Commissioner for Refugees.)

  326. July 30, 2016 12:58 pm

    (Powerful case`s, shot down arguments, and submission`s from new head`s delivered with death-stares to a prime-meddler under total zombie control, can only be ignored when self-preservation of prime-meddler`s position is always on the table. Beyond spite, convincing zombies of accepting as a `national-symbol` one so deeply and publicly `cruelled` by his own, is a step too far for zombies.)

  327. July 30, 2016 1:47 pm

    (When pinkists crept thru the night to UNgough the gough-like07 at the start of the season,

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/programs/killing-season/

    the pinkists UNwittingly created UNsuitable leaders at home, yaay.blib, and permanent records and scripts to ensure that the UNgoughed and others remain high risk and UNsuitable UNywhere.)

  328. UN Seasonal permalink
    July 30, 2016 5:21 pm

    (Still, perhaps, reported time dilations and dilatory tactics within and without the Golden Triangle do seem a little intriguing…

    The UN Security Council will consider nominated candidates from next month, before taking a resolution for the role to the General Assembly.

    The five Security Council permanent member nations – including the United States, United Kingdom, Russia, China and France – can veto any nominee for the job.

    A secret ballot will take place, before the next secretary-general is due to take office on January 1.)

  329. July 30, 2016 7:30 pm

  330. UN Popularity Contest permalink
    July 30, 2016 8:02 pm

    (the pinkists UNwittingly created UNsuitable leaders at home, yaay.blib, and permanent records and scripts to ensure that the UNgoughed and others remain high risk and UNsuitable UNywhere

    Indeed; there may or may not be more or less than something or nothing in a Grand disUNification Theoretic.)

  331. Tom R permalink
    July 31, 2016 9:48 pm

    Tony, that is not Baloney.

    That is really very good (imo), you’re really hitting your stride I’d say.

    Inspirational stuff.

  332. July 31, 2016 10:07 pm

    (The `antonio` option looks good, an UNhappy option for proud gulag owners maybe, tho much happier for those UNboated.)

  333. August 1, 2016 8:38 am

    Thanks Tom R. Flattery will get you everywhere. 😉

  334. Tom R permalink
    August 1, 2016 9:28 am

    Flattery will get you everywhere

    That’s what I’m counting on 😉

    Although, seriously, I assumed it was another random painting you’d put up, until I looked at the source and followed it.

    Not that I am an artistic intellectual or anything, I just like what I like. And I liked.

  335. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 1, 2016 9:57 am

    Thanks Tom R. Flattery will get you everywhere.

    Wow! Did you do that yourself tony?
    Like tomR, I thought it was ‘just’ a painting that you posted. I glanced over it and thought that the light was painted and captured really well [I’ve read that it is hard to do] and wondered what that brownish blob near the people sitting on the beach was.

    It looks like the work of a professional artist. You deserve to be very proud.

  336. Tom R permalink
    August 1, 2016 10:26 am

    ” what that brownish blob”

    Me at the beach, just before the greenies roll me back in

  337. August 1, 2016 10:50 am

    Thanks AO. Feedback much appreciated. 🙂

  338. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 1, 2016 10:53 am

    😝 😱

  339. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 1, 2016 12:31 pm

    Yes. Outstanding!

    … not only that but it’s prompted Tom R to admit he is ignorant . A work of art in itself!

  340. August 1, 2016 12:43 pm

    I suppose I should say I thought it was quite good too.

  341. Tom R permalink
    August 1, 2016 1:19 pm

    … not only that but it’s prompted Tom R to admit he is ignorant .

    yomm yomm yomm, you trooly have issues with your chosen language, don’t you.

    Unless you consider everyone who is not an art critic to be ignorant?

    Is that what you really mean?

  342. August 5, 2016 3:47 pm

    Can’t unsee…

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