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No, no one ever thinks about me do they?
How could you say such a thing yomm!
Oh, and just … cos
http://www.pindex.com
“No, no one ever thinks about me do they??”
Of course we do. Who else would put up with this menagerie of moronic misfits? This is our spiritual home. Why else would we spend so many happy hours here posting bilious bullshit, blowing smoke out of our sorry arses and explaining our colleagues’ shortcomings to them in a frank and straight-forward manner. It will be a sad, sad day when this weird little community closes down.
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Albo, the factional hit-man, and identity politics:
Students Say A Story About A School Banning The Word “Girls” Is “Misleading Clickbait”
https://www.buzzfeed.com/lanesainty/students-say-a-story-about-a-school-banning-the-word-girls-i?utm_term=.lh4NMbY4p#.bjXrkQ79v
well DUH, it’s murdoch, of course it’s clickbait.
Just like splatts story above.
The libs have just created the largest ministry in the hopes of making the the factions happy while civil war lurks the corridors, and apparently, it’s Labor that has all the issues. Yes, the Labor that just re-elected Bill Shorten unopposed.
Just remember, this trolling started with massola, who hasn’t got facts right once since he started his jihad against Shorten.
But I’m sure he’s making sure his options at ltdnews are open when farfax finally kicks the bouquet
“explaining our colleagues’ shortcomings to them in a frank and straight-forward manner.”
This too, I find very satisfying..
It’s a form of civic duty really.
“It will be a sad, sad day when this weird little community closes down.”
I’ll probably have a drink that day.
Nice sub-title for the blog, reb.
About eight at last count …
If you want us to send gifts please provide PO Box details.
is someone going on a cruise?
“explaining our colleagues’ shortcomings to them in a frank and straight-forward manner.”
Colleagues! WTF?
It’s a form of civic duty really.
Civic fkn duty … providing a soap box for a bunch of old windbags …
I’ll probably have a drink that day.
I bet you’ve already had one? I’ll drink to that “clink” … 😀
Ah well, back to work …
retirement a state of work without pay; a misnomer for sitting around with old windbags and enjoying it; a misguided hope for a de-stressed after-life on the conveyor belt of life …
Live long … and then ya die …
Tom R, the Tele article (at least the one I looked at) said that the change had been “requested” not that the word “girls” had been banned.
The fact that some moron teacher is requesting the elimination of gendered words is bad enough.
If you get the hate-mongering Marxist and LGBTI fanatics out of it and let change happen over time in stead of demanding total change right now then something sensible might happen.
Live long … and then ya die …
Death death death, it’s all about death with ya
“there are more things in heaven and earth that are dreamt of in your philosophy”
The fact that some moron teacher is requesting the elimination of gendered words is bad enough.
Can you show where even this is true?
Assuming that the story has now been changed, as the original one was unequivocal.
Looks like the original has been modified (but even htat is questionable in hteir claims. There is no longer the word ‘ban’
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/cheltenham-girls-high-teachers-at-exclusive-girls-school-told-to-preach-gender-neutral/news-story/c9777cad2f4e9bdccde15d3972820d21?nk=6d2daae5e317646e34dd60f0bda24ea6-1469077556
Unfortunately, other murdochians aren’t so quick to update
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3697821/Cheltenham-Girls-High-School-bans-teachers-calling-students-girls-ladies-women-telling-use-gender-neutral-labels-instead.html
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/school-life/calls-for-intervention-over-sydney-girls-school-gender-neutral-language-policy/news-story/37c0d140a109d9c6a592b1a80ec0af6e
reading the comments from the original is as hilarious as it is disheartening
They start off with ‘ban’, get pointed out that the story is bullshit, then continue on regardless, and, get the result I’m sure the novelist is looking for. They all want their little darlings to go a good, private (yet publicly funded) xtian school.
Indoctrination of the blind AND stupid.
haha, Conroys getting all Conrovian again. But this time, he’s right!
news Labor Senator Stephen Conroy has obtained legal advice that the NBN company’s referral of whistleblowers to the Australian Federal Police was illegal, and has demanded that NBN chair Ziggy Switkowski resign from his post as a result and that the AFP cease its investigations into the matter.
https://delimiter.com.au/2016/07/06/afp-nbn-raids-illegal-says-conroy-ziggy-must-resign/
Keep twisting that knife, and keep the NBN on the burner until the next election, with malcayman front and center
“Can you show where even this is true?”
I looked at it yesterday and the allegation is that in a teachers’ meeting a couple of months ago a request was made to drop gendered terminology. I haven’t seen any rebuttal of that specific point.
My view of all this is that there has been no ‘ban’ implemented yet but some demented mongrels are pushing for one.
This is not much different to the call from the dogfuckers at the Teachers Federation:
Free speech or hate speech?
Good riddance to yiannopoulos. These right wing fascists are despicable racists, sexists and homophobes, they lower all social media interactions to the level of a young libs, young fogeys conference. People are victimised, bullied and harassed beyond belief.
How a racist, sexist hate mob forced Leslie Jones off Twitter
http://fusion.net/story/327103/leslie-jones-twitter-racism/
Milo Yiannopoulos: Twitter banning one man won’t undo his poisonous legacy
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/20/milo-yiannopoulos-twitter-ban-leslie-jones-bad-idea
…It’s actually not that hard to see why Yiannopoulos is an icon for a certain gleeful, anarchic base who finds the language of progressivism alienating. He is gay but homophobic; he is Jewish but antisemitic; he despises feminism but once published a poetry chapbook about his childhood trauma which borrowed heavily from Tori Amos song lyrics. It’s a neat trick that lets Milo and his ilk accuse detractors of being the ones who are really trying to suppress gay voices when they criticize him.
Beyond that, Yiannopoulos’s public performances promise his fans that you can have traits perceived to confer sociopolitical disadvantage yet still be part of a supposedly wealthy, unflappable elite; his identity factors let him market a kind of old-fashioned idea of power to other people who feel disenfranchised. It’s no coincidence that the first seeds of his wild fanbase were sown in video game culture, among young men who felt threatened by the perceived intrusion of progressive politics into their private, escapist power fantasies…
“People are victimised, bullied and harassed beyond belief.”
Yep. Anyone who dares differ from the fascist bully-boy hyenas of the left gets that treatment from the pack (and they are pack-animals). Like Sonia Kruger.
Looks like Milo has got the left rattled when they have to resort to a permanent Twitter ban to try to shut him up.
My view of all this is that there has been no ‘ban’ implemented yet but some demented mongrels are pushing for one.
As I said, of course, now, after reading initially there was a ‘ban’, which has now been reworded to ‘advise’ your ‘view’ is precisely what the novelist desired.
Of course, the reality is not even that, but, don’t let that get in hte way of your now fomented view
But Guardian Australia understands there was never any instruction given to avoid use of “girls”, “ladies”, “women” or other gender-specific terms at Cheltenham Girls high school, and there was no basis to the Daily Telegraph’s report.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jul/20/teachers-at-sydney-high-school-never-told-to-use-gender-neutral-language?CMP=share_btn_tw
I understand this link has already been up, so it won’t help posting it again.
Perhaps some ribald Vogon Poetry is in order instead?
“If miranda found a truth to tell
You’d know for sure it’s cold in Hell
Cos truth and her go just like
Splatts second name upon a pike”
The Unions are going Conrovian too.
Are we heading Turkeys way. The police have become the libs political plaything, just as they have used the courts for over the years.
Two more cases brought against the CFMEU by the Trade Union Royal Commission Police have failed in court in Brisbane this week.
On Monday, CFMEU official Chad Bragdon was found Not Guilty of intimidating or obstructing a Commonwealth official and on Wednesday CFMEU official Mark O’Brien was found to have no case to answer in relation to obstructing a Commonwealth Official.
CFMEU National Construction Secretary Dave Noonan said the decisions in the union’s favour in relation to cases launched by the Trade Union Royal Commission Police demonstrate once again, that the police is being used for political purposes.
https://www.cfmeu.org.au/news/more-failed-cases-against-cfmeu-brought-royal-commission-police
Free speech or hate speech?
Good riddance to yiannopoulos
He’s been shown the door 😉
Political Correctness Goes Mad Resulting In Wild Outbreak Of Politeness
http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/article/2016/07/21/political-correctness-goes-mad-resulting-wild-outbreak-politeness
TomR, that cartoon is a message the left seem never to get – unless it can be applied to the targets of their hatred. That is precisely why leftists who try to take over meetings they don’t like are fucking fascists – they have no right to other peoples’ platforms and they have no right to shut other people up.
I don’t think Twitter has an obligation to host Milo. But I do think Twitter have outed themselves as political activists rather than as neutral platform. This is appropriate as Twitter has long been the home of the plug-stupid leftist. It is a format that suits leftists – ideal for smart-arsed quips by people with a short (142 character) attention span and too dumb to actually think things through.
Also your “poem” is not quite lugubrious to be truly Vogon.
I know splatt, I’m far too chirpy to be lugubrious, but I’m hoping more exposure to your posts will remedy that
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/35f818e59d9d0ca93b3880a0c45010fb?width=1024
“Chirpy”!!! Is that what you call it. I think a right pain in the arse is more like it, and a hyperactive one at that.
You’re terrible, Walrus!
I think a right pain in the arse is more like it
hmmm, reminds me of chirpy Vogon poetry 🙂
You’re terrible, Walrus!
Is that you Muriel?
I don’t think Twitter has an obligation to host Milo. But I do think Twitter have outed themselves as political activists rather than as neutral platform.
hmmm
team-cheerer,,,,Death death death, it’s all about death with ya,,,,
# ,, for others, its all death-cult, death-cult, death-cult (-:
So the left has banned someone from posting something? Natural totalitarians do things like that.
pom-poms,,,,,the Labor that just re-elected Bill Shorten unopposed,,,,
# ,, are you confirming my prediction blib will be a multi-term opposition leader (-: #yaaay.blib
Natural totalitarians do things like … accusing others of doing exactly what they do … a familiar ploy engaged in by right wing nut jobs … “look what they do” … as they fiddle, fiddle and fart around in the background … until caught out …
Wonder what the name of wally’s psychiatrist is … I think he’s getting more paranoid by the day …
So we have a new ALP faction- with 4 people in it!
Go factions! Go hacks! Go union overlords!
“Am tired of feather brained media folk eg Panahi who call any view different to their master’s, as “leftist” ”
Am tired of feather brained media folk eg Jonathon Green who call any view different to their communist master’s, as “denialist”
Fixed that for ya !
Walrus, that Fabric chap you quoted is a genius. His nuanced argument has definitely convinced me. And thank you KL for the rigorous intellectual standard of your cutting and pasting. I am so blessed.
As for your trite restatement of it, Walrus, that was just another jaundiced twitter opinion.
“………….that was just another jaundiced twitter opinion.”
Yeah………….goes without saying LOL
How to be polite in a many-gendered world:
How to be polite in a many-gendered world:
But he forgot all about himself, the bigots.
Liked the round of applause he got lol
Speaking of bigots (just so youse don’t feel ‘left’ out 😉 )
…agatek0101 18m ago
“Haven’t we learnt anything?” No, that would be un-Australian.
Btw – I’m always shocked by the amount of bullying going on in this country, starting at a very young age and for whatever reason. I’ve never seen anything like it before. There are statistics that say that 75% of school kids experience bullying. And every single friend of mine of South or Eastern European origin has a story to tell. Same with anyone even remotely ‘Asian’ appearance. And the number of really disrespectful or even vicious remarks made about Indigenous people by seemingly well mannered and reasonable people. What’s wrong with this country?
RobInger agatek0101 5m ago
Agreed!
I suffered it even as a white-skinned Pom coming to Australia to live. Extreme and beyond friendly teasing.
Even my daughters as children of a Pom suffered extensive bullying and teasing becasue of the way they pronounced certain words, even though their pronunciation is correct English!
I have friends of different races and colours and they will all attest to bullying and bigotry…
Haven’t we learned anything?
Yea. It was all the Muslims fault all along!
Khaled Elomar the “peaceful” bearded muslim who asked a question to Pauline Hanson on Q&A this week appears to have a few interesting “peaceful comments” on his Facebook page……..
” Other posts on Elomar’s Facebook account includes criticisms of “Zionist Israel” as well as capitalism. One post said: “The Zionists and capitalists of the world ‘Go fuck yourself’ … We want peace motherfuckers.” ………”
Seems quite a lovely chap………..No doubt our resident Troll will denounce The Guardian as another agent of Murdoch
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jul/22/qa-abc-backs-screening-process-after-news-corp-criticises-khaled-elomar
Cannot wait to see TB of Queenslands next link to his hero, the Grand Mufti of Australia
No doubt our resident Troll will denounce The Guardian as another agent of Murdoch
Not sure why I would. They are not hte ones who have attacked him on a front page, and claimed the abc did wrong in letting him ask a question.
I assume that, god forbid, you ever ask a question on qanda, that you are happy for the lolstralian to go through some of your choicest comments and then claim you shouldn’t be asking questions.
At least the Guardian put context to the story. I mean, did the lolstralian mention his job at all, or just that he has sworn on facebook (the FUCKER!!)?
“I assume that, god forbid, you ever ask a question on qanda,……..”
In the name of Allah, the most gracious the most merciful, if in future Allah wills I be present in an ABC studio so it will be.
But on present indications as to my affinity and following of Allah’s various teachings….
…I’d rather fucking top myself then be found on an episode of Q&A
…I’d rather fucking top myself then be found on an episode of Q&A
qanda, and the people of Australia, thank you for your consideration.
Of course, you are still ok with the lolstralian having a go at you for ever questioning anything anywhere because of comments you have made here, aren’t you, and declaring that you shouldn’t have that right because of said comments.
” Other posts on Elomar’s Facebook account includes criticisms of “Zionist Israel” as well as capitalism. One post said: “The Zionists and capitalists of the world ‘Go fuck yourself’ … We want peace motherfuckers.” ………”
Seems quite a lovely chap………..
I have no doubt that if elomar came over here and read through your posts, he would be thinking the same thing!
Re – Khaled Elomar
The left never regard it as racism if the hate speech is directed to Israel or Jews
Meanwhile, President Museveni of Uganda shows his deep understanding of world affairs:
It is a bit long, but dip into it anywhere.
“I have no doubt that if elomar came over here and read through your posts, …”
We wont see him here.
This site is mostly occupied by the Brothers and Sister(s) of “the Enlightnment”
Happy to teach him how to shave
…I’d rather fucking top myself then be found on an episode of Q&A
Invitation has just been sent …
… compulsory attendance or The Turnbull Government will backdate taxes on your super … 😀
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The left never regard it as racism if the hate speech is directed to Israel or Jews
As long as its based in religion … any fkn religion … WGAFF?
Holier than thou, cleaner than thee, more virtuous than all … is just plain fkn stupid … fairytales are fairytales for childish and/or childlike hoomans …
What’s the difference between the stories from Egypt’s Ra/Pharaohs, Jewish First Testament, Christianity’s Second Testament and the wobbly ramblings of a goatherder called Mohammed who made shyte up too and got others to write it down, or a sci-fi author who wrote more sci-fi and called it Scientology, or a band who sang religious songs who now make millions flogging songs about Dog to unsuspecting embiciles … and what a dopey name Hillsong … most of the authors of all this tripe were born hundreds (thousands?) of years after any “event” – and very few are actually real or in most cases nicked from the Druids and Egyptians, who nicked it from camel drivers and cave men … gullible or what …
Just another way to rip of the masses for a quick quid … and in some cases a grope in the dark …
It is a bit long, but dip into it anywhere.
I did … zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz …
He reminds me of Trump …
Nations built on race-based `superiority` are always a success!
FFS! sreb … will you change that fkn photo at the top!
Every time I post a comment I end up a metre away from my keyboard … new chair and really good wheels on porcelain tiles admittedly … Hanson’s face give’s me the fkn frights!
(Aside: watching Ray Donovan TV series at the moment – last night he’s walking thru a graveyard, said to The Minister, “There’s Pauline!” I got the slow stare as only wives can command … big gravestone in the background – HANSON … 😉
Nations built on race-based `superiority` are always a success!
That explains all the micks in Federal Government I suppose …
“Nations built on race-based `superiority` are always a success!”
You might be right on that
Although that’s not right all the time……………..
So is it possible to be racist about the “Americans”? Or Germans?
I think people that don’t like Italians, Greeks, Vietnamese are racist.
But is dislike of a particular cultural inclination “racism”?
How is it possible for the left to so broadly criticise Israel (and Jews) and Catholics and yet call criticism of Islam ” racism”
I’m actually interested to understand the logic of all this, if there is any.
I’m actually interested to understand the logic of all this, if there is any.
There is none yomm. It’s the fact that you ignore it at once, and then scream blue murder when it is turned back on you.
Nobody has said the guy on qanda isn’t racist (or has uttered racist words).
In fact, I’ve said quite often that it goes both ways.
But, hanson is an elected politician spouting racist crap, ON AIR.
The lolstralian is quite happy with that.
This guy asked a very valid question, but, has said some racist remarks elsewhere.
The lolstralian wants him banned because of it.
The only thing is, I see their twisted logic. They want to silence dissent.
Do you get it yet?
I’m actually interested to understand the logic of all this, if there is any.
I’m trying to figure out WTF you’re talking about …?
I wasn’t talking directly about Q and A. It’s just an observation, that the label ‘racist’ is applied to people that express anti Islamic sentiments, but not to anti catholic, anti American, anti Israel…
I can understand that many don’t like the attitudes of overbearing/dominant cultures, but I struggle with the notion that criticism of some of the teaching of (or the followers of) Islam is ‘racism’
It’s culturalism, and thats quite different.
I wasn’t talking directly about Q and A.
Yea yomm, neither was I 😉
I can understand that many don’t like the attitudes of overbearing/dominant cultures
C’mon, it’s a bit of a stretch to refer to Melbourne as a ‘culture’
It’s more like a sentence.
It’s culturalism, and thats quite different.
Well, sorry if your pedantry get’s the better of you when bigots are there to defend, But, as we saw before, ‘race’ is a debatable subject anyway, pedantically speaking.
So you get lost in your ‘is this or that a race’ and ignore the bigotry that is going on meanwhile.
Because, if you want to get pedantic, zionism isn’t really a race, it”s a political movement. Not all (many?) Jews are zionists. And, it was quite clear that, from his comments, it was the overt capitalist nature of the zionist movement he was referring to.
And capitalism …. I’ll leave you to argue the racism of that 😉
On a blog where most of us don`t believe in `any` flavor sky-fairy, it is rather stupid of the `few` that spout endless bile sourced from Limited-News about the 1% of demented muslims, while totally ignoring, anglican-pedos and jew-pedos, and the cover-ups, particularly in boltland, and the global catlick pedo-machhine. #teabags
Like I said WTF is ToM yabbering about?
from the guardian ,, ,,
Limited-News questions,,,,extent to which QandA vets its audience,,,,
# ,, What a load of pig-shit, `duncan` and now `elomar`, Limited-News would do much better cleaning their own death-star of assorted phobes, bigots and convicted racist`s, instead of sticking its nose up my abc`s arse all the time.
AO,,,,,Good riddance to yiannopoulos. These right wing fascists are despicable racists, sexists and homophobes, they lower all social media interactions to the level of a young libs, young fogeys conference. People are victimised, bullied and harassed beyond belief,,,,,
# ,, while l`m not disagree-ing with you armchair, it looks to me like hunting `sardines` while the `whales` get-off. Keep an eye out to see if twitter/fakebook/`any` give any of the corporate/astroturf trolls the boot. Bet they don`t. What about Limited-News???? Still allowed to peddle their bile via these platforms????
On a blog where most of us don`t believe in `any` flavor sky-fairy, it is rather stupid of the `few` that spout endless bile sourced from Limited-News about the 1% of demented muslims, while totally ignoring, anglican-pedos and jew-pedos, and the cover-ups, particularly in boltland, and the global catlick pedo-machhine. #teabags
I was thinking of that this afternoon after reading tomM’s comment re zionists/israel.
If a muslim [or any qanda questioner] dares to poke their head up and ask a question in the national interest that is anathema to the right wing warrior journalists at the ‘Catholic Boys Daily’ and their life is suddenly under the microscope, whether they are equipped to cope with it or not. The catholic boys daily doesn’t want australia to even see these people as human beings, they have to be hated and abused. Of course any christian representative is feted as if they are the one-true-god in person. No talk about paedophilia or the sexism and bullying that’s rife in the institution, in the hallowed halls of their good christian educational colleges [funded by the public] heaven forbid, the cultural fiction as created by white australia and it’s institutions must be maintained and preserved at all cost.
Australia once banned Catholics from mass and vilified the Irish. Haven’t we learned anything?
Well the Irish govt did support the nazi’s
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092138/Irish-minister-admits-time-Jews-fleeing-Nazis-denied-visas-1930s-morally-bankrupt-regime.html
Ireland has admitted for the first time that its ‘morally bankrupt’ regime of the 1930s denied visas to desperate Jews trying to escape from Nazi persecution.
Justice Minister Alan Shatter said that, following Adolf Hitler’s rise to power, Ireland’s anti-semitic Berlin ambassador Charles Bewley ensured ‘the doors to this state were kept firmly closed to German Jewish families trying to flee’…….He said the ‘shameful position’ was further compounded by de Valera’s visit to the German Ambassador in 1945 to express his condolences on the death of Hitler.
He added: ‘At a time when neutrality should have ceased to be an issue, the Government of this State utterly lost its moral compass.
Well the Irish govt did support the nazi’s
So has the australian govt, we’ve given many nazi criminals a safe haven from prosecution for decades.
Some of the royals supported them and the liberal party has nazi roots too.
Stop looking at irish history and look at the present.
Fascist, authoritarian rule, fear mongering and propaganda, it’s the hallmark of the conservatives. Look at the abbott/turnbull regime.
The only people I’ve ever observed saying – ban him – are left oriented types.
Though they’ve tended to be the unintelligent ones
So you missed all those lolstralian articles calling for certain questioners not being allowed to ask questions because …… wrong colour or wrong bank balance?
ToM, I think I’ve come up with the most simple answer to your question yesterday …
When you accuse someone of being racist, sexist, ageist etc … its because because the people you are insulting have no choice … with their race, their gender or their age …
However, religion is a choice, nationality is a choice (for some of us anyway) … any lifestyle decisions are choices …
The vagaries of nature are not choices and therefore calling someone an old, Asian, poofter … is insulting three times over … calling them a communist isn’t (if its true) …
Just as I call you ToM the Tory (from now on) … or RWNJ … ’cause you are … and you choose to be a Mexican, ’cause you are …
I don’t mind being called a Queenslander – my choice … but I take offence at my intelligence being insulted because of my age – because I have no choice in getting older (if only I did) …
In conclusion – CHOICE determines whether you are accused of an “ism” … if the person has NO CHOICE … you’re an “ist!”
I guess that was ToM the Tory’s “Please explain, moment” …
So you missed all those lolstralian articles calling for certain questioners not being allowed to ask questions because …… wrong colour or wrong bank balance?
Yes, The Catholic Boys Daily does not like the natural order of things to be questioned in the public domain by anyone, especially the hoi polloi. The culture warriors employed by the TCBD will hunt them down with merciless, snarling fury and expose their sorry lives to public scrutiny and ridicule. How bloody dare they? Outrageous!
However, religion is a choice,
That’s good TB, so criticism of Islam (or Catholics etc) isn’t “racism” in your view.
What if there is no freedom to choose a religion in a country? Or no freedom not to choose?
Hey teebz, l disagree with your `choice` explainer. What flavor dog do you have on your birth certificate. With all their pedo-defending and moosi-bashing, it`s a pretty safe bet that splatts, boo-melb and tinfoil`osy have catlick on their birth-certs. ln many places there is no `choice` pakistan, saudi, iran and turkey, all very different islamic countries, but l think they `do` stamp `all` birth-certs with an `islam` flavor of dog. Point being it may not be `individual-choice`, the one that counts in my mind anyway. lsrael????
Yes ao, which is what made Sam Dastyaris comment to hanson so revealing, in more ways than one
So yomm, what is your term of choice for the vilification of dark skinned Muslims, just so we can keep you happy and concentrate on the actual issue instead of the terminology
What if there is no freedom to choose a religion in a country? Or no freedom not to choose?
And that seems to be an entirely legitimate reason to criticise a religion, but some seem to shy away from that, particularly as it applies to Islam.
I tend to think prejudice on the basis of colour is racism.
And religion isn’t a “race”
The Bolter test …
http://loonpond.blogspot.com.au/2016/07/the-bolter-test.html#.V5LdFrh97IU
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/2016/07/23/gadfly-hoist-with-his-own-pedantry/14691960003516
http://loonpond.blogspot.com.au/2016/07/in-which-polonius-provides-safe-pair-of.html#.V5LeL7h97IU
That’s good TB, so criticism of Islam (or Catholics etc) isn’t “racism” in your view.
No … (and I criticise their ACTIONS not their CHOICE)
What flavor dog do you have on your birth certificate.
C of E (you’d know that if your kept up) I was actually christened when I was seven yo …
… but I CHOSE/choose to be agnostic …
… and oddly enough when I was conscripted I was asked and said agnostic and I was recorded as CofE … no agnostic padres you see … but you had to “have” a religion in the ADF in ’70 … thankfully the ADF have become more adult and intelligent in the 21st Century …
I also CHOOSE to be Australian (I’m eligible for a UK passport and, at the moment, an EU passport too) … my nationality is my choice … and I choose to be a proud Australian and a parochial Queenslander … or I could move to Mexico and be a dick …
but some seem to shy away from that, particularly as it applies to Islam.
Could I suggest that the people who “shy away” from accusing Muslims before there is any evidence that Islamists are involved is what really mean … its always been easy to blanket blame a group of people that are tainted by a small number … are all catliks pedophiles? Of course not … are all Muslims terrorists?
I tend to think prejudice on the basis of colour is racism.
And religion isn’t a “race”
So do I … and a “race” is not a nationality (as was hinted at above) …
“”” No … (and I criticise their ACTIONS not their CHOICE) “””
I’ll correct that I do criticise their choice … I think religion is based on playing with immature minds, brainwashing, control and power … through the ages … it has always been so … from caveman to cosmonaut …
On my abc24, l`ve just seen blib announce the teams shadow-puppets.
All the way thru it blib said `he` decided this, and `he` decided that. lt seems strange to me that the team continually use language that always makes them look `greasy`. The team-cheerer continually tells us, `the team decides the leader`, and in that same vein, didn`t the `factions` just negotiate and `decide` which puppet got which `shadow`???? Why don`t the team understand that the continual `greasy` language spooks NON-aligned punters???? Look at all the teams resources gobbled-up defending the greasy `carbon-price` language in the jooLiar-era. The team are still failing to learn their own lessons from their `own` errors. #yaaay.blib
I think religion is based on playing with immature minds, brainwashing, control and power … through the ages … it has always been so … from caveman to cosmonaut …
Yes the “opium for the masses”
Lest they realise what the ruling class is doing to them. Religion has always worked with governments to maintain the power and control of the very systems that do the oppressing.
Some countries have religion as government. Here we pretend we don’t but they creep into parliament in ever increasing numbers.
We must demand a Bill of Rights.
I tend to think prejudice on the basis of colour is racism.
And religion isn’t a “race”
Thanks for clearing THAT up then 😯
So that would mean calling the latest dark skinned guy on qanda to ask an awkward question a racist because he was attacking zionism and capitalism racist would be incorrect then?
So pom-poms, Why don`t the team understand that the continual `greasy` language spooks NON-aligned punters???? #yaaaay.blib
racism
ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race
racism
ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
“theories of racism”
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.
“a programme to combat racism”
synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice/bigotry, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, bias, intolerance;
Why don`t the team understand that the continual `greasy` language spooks NON-aligned punters?
I get the feeling that, even if I could be bothered deciphering your gibberish, I still wouldn’t care what you are rambling about. Anything to do with colouredcardboardcartons perchance?
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
It’s interesting that dolt, a convicted racist, still doesn’t understand just what it is, as he continues to complain that Aborigines are treated differently than others, but refuses to acknowledge WHY.
He would be salivating at the thought of hanson spouting his ignorance for him.
It’s interesting that dolt, a convicted racist
What never ceases to amaze me about you lefties is how shameless you are. Bolt was saying disadvantaged Aboriginal people should be getting the grants that white people with 1/1000 percent aboriginal blood were getting. I agree with Bolt.
What you should be doing TomR is apologising for the 8,469 children Rudd/Gillard locked up and the $15B-$20B we spent locking up 50,000 boat people. There were only 6 boat people in detention in 2007.
even,,,,,if I could be bothered,,,,,
# ,, Oh, sorry l `bothered` you @1:45 team-cheerer,
# ,, l will leave you to paddle in the shallow end of the intellectual-pool with boo-melb and kneel then. (-:
Teabag Panic
miami-herald,,,,,,,Kinsey, a 47-year-old married father of five who has worked at the MacTown center for the Developmentally Disabled for more than a year, was shot Monday afternoon while trying to coax an autistic man he cared for back into the center,,,,,,,,
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article91406042.html
More Teabag Panic
reutrers,,,,,,,,The mall is next to the Munich Olympic stadium, where the Palestinian militant group Black September took 11 Israeli athletes hostage and eventually killed them during the 1972 Olympic Games,,,,,,,
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-crime-munich-idUSKCN1021YZ
Bolt was saying disadvantaged Aboriginal people should be getting the grants that white people with 1/1000 percent aboriginal blood were getting.
No he wasn’t, he was saying, incorrectly, that certain people weren’t Aboriginal, for various reasons. His various reasons were factually incorrect, and did not apply to those people he then wantonly vilified.
sorry l `bothered` you
Good.
even if I could be bothered deciphering your gibberish, I still wouldn’t care what you are rambling about.
So yomm, come up with nomenclature we can use yet that suits your sensibilities, or still prefer sniping from the thickets about irrelevances
Huh?
Huhist?
No he wasn’t, he was saying, incorrectly, that certain people weren’t Aboriginal, for various reasons.
Yes, Bolt thinks that people with 1/1000per cent Aboriginal blood should not be getting grants. That is not being racist.The grants are for disadvantaged Aboriginal people.
Now Bolt may be wrong but he is not being racist.
I believe something similar happened in North America where Indian tribes were allowed to start up casino’s and anybody with part Indian blood wanted some of the profits.
Here Come The Teabags!
reuters,,,,,,,,Duke, a Republican, is a former Louisiana state legislator and unsuccessful candidate for governor who served a 15-month federal prison sentence after pleading guilty in 2002 to felony charges of tax evasion and mail fraud,,,,,,,,
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-davidduke-idUSKCN1021WA
team-cheerer,,,,,prefer sniping from the thickets about irrelevances,,,,,
# ,, oh give him some credit, he has dedicated to sharing his `selfies` with us (-:
So while you lot have been busy arguing amongst yourselves, I on the other hand, have been meeting new and interesting ppl. One chap I met yesterday who was making some extra cash driving uber, mentioned to me that he used to work in the casinos at Macau. Interestingly he mentioned that he’d see a lot of desperate people – especially mainland Chinese.
Rd
He says that it wasn’t uncommon for ppl to lose all their money and then borrow more from the loan sharks. If they lost that they’d sometimes end up killing themselves by jumping from the top of the building. He said it happened at least once a day…
Hey walrus, guess where I am….?
I took these just for you, no don’t thank me.
Huh?
Some of us took the effort to answer your questions and received zilch in reply …
What do you think we’ll do next time, Tory ToM?
What do you think we’ll do next time
Well you locked up 8,469 children last time. Most probably double that next time.
Natural totalitarians never change their spots
Find a new fkn tune!
Here’s those fkn lefties – at it again … fancy denying Trump supporters their freedom of speech like that … and what a stupid concept – only a loonie leftie would come up with a little sign that said – “no racism no hate” …
Hey?
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/watch-these-trump-supporters-desperately-try-to-cover-a-womans-no-racism-no-hate-sign-with-an-american-flag/news-story/b80f06cc41ff4b51c3346700dd6202c5
Hi reb
Glad you are having a good time and savouring the culinary delights. I imagine walrus’ mouth is watering. Wish I was there!
I’ve cut & pasted in full because this is $walled. I was thinking along similar lines when referencing the IRA attacks
guess where I am….?
The toilet?
Further reading for those who are interested.
Why the ‘Islam is not a race!’ argument doesn’t stack up:
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/why-the-islam-is-not-a-race-argument-doesnt-stack-up/news-story/3a1b34e106fbe22a17f003edb842a4ee
The anti-Islam crusade endorsed by Bolt, Kruger is already happening:
https://www.crikey.com.au/2016/07/22/muslim-discrimination-already-happening/
The toilet?
😛
guess where I am….?
Cooking walrus blubber satays? 🙂
muslim-discrimination-already-happening/
Well duh.
It’s interesting watching hanson latching onto the latest bigots target.
Whatever happened to dems asians?
From ao’s link
Call it racism, call it prejudice, call it bigotry — it’s still discrimination.
So yomm, which term suits your delicate sensifuckenbilities?
Or are you happier stuck in that thicket?
But I did acknowledge that I even agreed with your comment TB.
—–
But generally, why is it that when we get –
• one variety of religious extremist saying homosexuality is evil, the left protests
• another religious extremist saying homosexuality is evil and execution of adulterers is an appropriate penalty,
…the left doesn’t protest, and calls those protesting “racists” and “right wing extremists”?
Call it racism, call it prejudice, call it bigotry — it’s still discrimination.
So if i am anti-Nazi am i guilty of racism, prejudice or bigotry?
the left doesn’t protest
Why are merging one issue with another.
As far as I know, ‘teh’ left protest about the actions of muslims when they attack minorities. You probably hear more about it locally here because Muslims don’t attack homosexuals etc so much here, it is the other religious extremists that do that.
Just because you don’t hear it, doesn’t mean it is not happening.
But, particularly here in Australia, that is all overshadowed by the extreme bigotry being put onto the Muslims here.
Of course, being bigotted assholes towards a religion that has many horrendous aspects itself isn’t really going to advance either cause.
And you STILL can’t come up with a terminology I see, you Huhist you!
That’s fine, but there is marginal guy named Dan (not Andrews – the church one) who gets plenty of attention from the left for his outrageous views on homosexuality.
I’m not sure, but his he more or less influential that the Muftis that preach their outrageous fundamentalist views about homosexuality, adultery etc?
I think the left are willing to overlook outrageous opinions based on who is expressing them.
…the left doesn’t protest, and calls those protesting “racists” and “right wing extremists”?
Who are these “leftists” you keep talking about? (And accusing in absentia)
And why on earth do you think I, and/or anyone else here condones any of the crap that all religions seem to indulge in … don’t you actually comprehend the comments from KL, sreb and myself about religionS (don’t recall any from TR) … or do you just choose to be bloody minded … and hit the goad button?
But I did acknowledge that I even agreed with your comment TB.
Could you please point me to that?
I think the left are willing to overlook outrageous opinions based on who is expressing them.
That’s your opinion … that’s fine …
That’s your opinion … that’s fine …
I think the right are proven to try to shut out other opinions based on who is expressing them.
And also not addressing issues, such as, what are we allowed to call
racistsHuhists?A dislike of a culture that promotes execution of adulters and homosexuals isn’t really a bad thing.
A dislike of a culture that promotes execution of adulters and homosexuals isn’t really a bad thing.
Nobody is saying it is. But acting in a bigoted and “racist” manner against people belonging to that culture is.
A dislike of a culture that promotes execution of adulters and homosexuals isn’t really a bad thing.
Tru dat!
Nobody is saying it is. But acting in a bigoted and “racist” manner against people belonging to that culture is.
Dat tru 2!
Dat tru 2!
dis tu
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/stephen-hawking-angers-trump-supporters-with-baffling-array-of-long-words
Amazing that we seem to agree!
Amazing that we seem to agree!
Yep
DOWN WITH ALL HUHISTS!
Amazing that we seem to agree!
er, hate to burst yer bubble, ToM … we always did … its just that a particular few of commenters here chose to “decide” what the rest of us “think” …
Enlightenment is truly amazing … why, even Georgie Brandis, is beginning to understand that it’s very easy to become part of a lynch mob … (other pollies prefer to arouse the rabble!)
“It’s very important to be careful in our use of language,” Brandis told the ABC’s Insiders program on Sunday. “Not every mass casualty attack is an act of terrorism. Not every premeditated act of violence is an act of terrorism.
“Our law has a very specific definition of terrorism. Terrorism is an act of violence or a threat of violence perpetrated for a political, religious or ideological cause, to coerce government or to intimidate the public.
“If we’re going to understand this problem we have to anatomise it correctly. We must be very careful in our use of language so that we don’t spray the word terrorism around too loosely.”
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jul/24/george-brandis-warns-against-assuming-all-attacks-are-terrorism-after-munich-shooting
It’s amazing how enlightened this govt has become since ditching Abbott.
Maybe it’ll take awhile for people to wean themselves off fear mongering and pantzwetting.
Hope springs eternal, KL … but I fear the fear mongers will be spreading fear till the end is nigh …
l mostly agree with your crikey/paywall/copy/paste armchair. To me when john-w, george-w and bliar invaded iraq particularly, and afghanistan, they `refused` to count the `collateral` kills. To me this sent the message that brown, arab, moosi (or whatever `demographic` they want to use) are `less` than human and `unworthy` of even being acknowledged, not even in death. Compare that to `we`, `teh-west` are continually reminded of jewish misery in ww2 and 6-million were murdered. We are much-less often `reminded` that at least triple the number of ruskie`s were murdered and died in battle too. Those that lead `teh-west` DO tend to be rampant phobes or/and racists.
teabag,,,,,But generally, why is it that when we get,
1.one variety of religious extremist saying homosexuality is evil, the left protests,,,,,
2.another religious extremist saying homosexuality is evil and execution of adulterers is an appropriate penalty,,,,,,
,
FOR CLARITY, is this what you mean?????
1.one variety of religious extremist(acl-lib-catlick-teabags) saying homosexuality is evil #while mass-murdering iraq citizens, mass murdering afghanis(mostly), ignoring sky-fairy pedo-clubs, but are highly visible, highly vocal political interfere`ers of voluntary euthanasia, abortions, gay-marriage and other personal liberties.
2.another religious extremist(saudi) saying homosexuality is evil and execution of adulterers is an appropriate penalty #while armed, funded, proped-up and protected by teabags of teh-west.
boo-the-teabag,,,,,,,,,A dislike of a culture that promotes execution of adulters and homosexuals isn`t really a bad thing,,,,,
# ,, the `culture` you keep referring to emits from saudi, if`ya have a problem with it, take it up with teabags of `teh-west` instead of bleating `lefties` like an imbecile, kneel aint the `gold` standard dopey
ha ha ,,,,,It`s very important to be careful in our use of language, Brandis told,,,,,
# ,, oh what a fcuking hypocrite the brandis cane-toad is, l saw this on telly, after all the bile that has come from his mouth, teabag-panic has set in and he wants to change the tune now that the `security` things he deluded himself the teabags could control, obviously can`t be
There was an Iraqi on Q&A and he agreed with the removal of Sadam and by implication the invasion
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s4470729.htm
MICHAEL YOUSIF: I think we needed that help to get rid of Saddam Hussein, because he wasn’t behave properly because he’s wasting his time for – he’s wasting money of Iraqis in weapons and spending that on fancy houses and cars, and spending – spending his time killing people. So there was no democratic election and nothing at all because we couldn’t even talk badly about Saddam Hussein or his follower. If you do that – if we did that, we will get into trouble and you have to go to investigation and you have to answer all the Government question why do that. We needed that help. Even if British or America didn’t find weapons of mass destruction, we needed democratic country, you know.
GEORGE BRANDIS: Hear, hear!
catlicks
http://www.educatoronline.com.au/news/principal-pleads-guilty-to-18-abuse-charges-212560.aspx
Well I can tell you that my family will be boycotting this year. I do not trust the government with personal information at all. I believe they will give or sell info to interest groups, use it for party political purposes and for no-good purposes that I can’t even think of!. They have no need to keep the data, no longer is it anonymous.
Very concerning about a non-secular state of government, where are the people who should be ringing the alarm bells?
This is the leadership that we should be seeing from Turnbull.
Is this really necessary?
“Hey walrus, guess where I am….?”
YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYY !
I know exactly where you are, Penang. That place and Newton Circuit in Singapore must be in the top 10 of street food places in Asia.
Chicken over charcoal………………..the best way to have satay
I must say I am feeling pretty disgusted by the conduct iof Turnbull and Shorten over the weekend.
Its the 100th anniversary of the Battle of Fromelles and both those c*nts are swanning about with bugger all to do until Parliament goes back.
Unfucking believable that they didn’t see fit to get there arses over to Europe for the ceremonies.
Neither of them are fit to be PM.
There is no way Abbott, Gillard, Rudd, or Howard would have ignored the anniversary
“”Chicken over charcoal………………..the best way to have satay””
Isn’t it…? That’s the same stall you would’ve eaten at at Batu Ferringi… 🙂
Arrived back in Melbourne an hour ago and it’s fkn freezing !
“Arrived back in Melbourne an hour ago and it’s fkn freezing !”
Not much better in Sydney. The wind coming out of the west is fuckin’ freezing
“Isn’t it…?”
Indeed.
We BBQ cook over charcoal almost exclusively these days plus we like to “smoke” a lot of stuff as well.
“”plus we like to “smoke” a lot of stuff as well.””
Well that explains a lot of your comments then… 🙂
“Well that explains a lot of your comments then… ”
LOL….yes hickory and apple wood does have a definite effect.
yes hickory and apple wood does have a definite effect.
I think that’s a debate you should be having with toiletboss isn’t it?
Mind you, it may not prevent some from experimenting.
The Australian corrects their page 1 story from earlier in the week.
TomR
What is your point? The story is still true. The wind turbines were using more power than they were producing. However it was minus 2MW not minus 50MW as published.
Danny Andrews is obviously trying to regain his credibility with that letter (AO’s comment)
His complete ineptitude probably cost the ALP a few seats, and therefore the chance of governing.
Danny is a dill, an oaf, a complete klutz, and example of a hack made good. He should go.
The story is still true
Yea, you mean except for all the stuff they got wrong.
And of course the (deliberate?) ignoring of the elephant in the room.
The biggest spike in electricity prices in South Australia in the last week of June was caused by the failure of a unit at one of the state’s biggest gas generators, according to the latest report by the Australian Energy Regulator.
http://reneweconomy.com.au/2016/failed-gas-unit-caused-biggest-spike-in-electricity-price-regulator-says-54442
Hilarious, TomR blames the failure of fossil fuel energy generation for the failure of renewable energy to generate enough electricity.
This is what the Link says………
“It says the cause of this was the delayed return to service of unit 4 in the Torrens A gas fired power station, which had tripped earlier in the day, taking it out of service…………..The AER reports for previous weeks also noted most of the major price spikes were caused by the unexpected loss of capacity at various coal and gas plants, including the Eraring coal generator in NSW, and the Loy Yang B brown coal generator in Victoria.”………..On top of this, capacity at two gas plants was withdrawn at the last moment because the operator decided it would not be economic to switch them on. And of course, there were record gas prices which pushed up the price of gas fired generation. ………..So, it’s not all the fault of wind energy or the lack of it, ”
You only read logic like that wherever TomR posts
“This Pensioner’s Status About Being Denied Cancer Treatment Is Going Viral”
Already rubbished by Health Minister.
Strangely it seems impossible to find out what clinic this occurred at…………………..I wonder why ?
Hilarious, TomR blames the failure of fossil fuel energy generation for the failure of renewable energy to generate enough electricity.
You do understand that, the gas companies were contracted to fill in for the wind. The Government knows that, until they have more capacity from other sources (eg solar or tidal), wind alone will not supply the requirements at all times.
Even when we used coal, we still had backups ready for when that wasn’t available, or enough. We used to get rolling blackouts every summer due to not enough available power in heatwaves. This has now been remedied. Can you guess how?
Now, the gas companies are gouging the Government, when called on to do precisely what they are contracted to do.
I hope the State Government calls a commision into this.
I also hope it helps push for more investment into other forms of renewables. The fossils at the fossil fuels have gouged us enough for my liking.
Yea, you mean except for all the stuff they got wrong.
The story was that wind turbines were using more power than they generated. The tweet conformed the story. They got some of the numbers wrong. They generated minus 2MW rather than minus 50 but the point of the story is true. Wind turbines in SA were using more power than they were producing.
What has SA got against coal? No wonder our manufacturing has left. Cheap coal produced electricity was one of our strong points.
The tweet conformed the story.
conformed, yes lol
They got some of the numbers wrong
Massively wrong. 2MW is a LOT different from 50.
No wonder our manufacturing has left.
Don’t go there you mindless regurgitor of lib stupidity.
We KNOW why Holden left. It was because hockey kicked them out the door, when he should have been working with them.
Massively wrong. 2MW is a LOT different from 50.
Yes but the point of the story is true. Wind turbines were using more energy than they were generating. By the way it appears that wind turbines need power. Where do they get it from?
Yes but the point of the story is true.
The point of the story is bullshit. Only a fool would believe that wind alone could or would provide a permanent power source. The point of the story is to highlight the bleeding obvious, and disregard the thoroughly corrupt manner that fossil fools are gouging the electorate.
And it is because of thoroughly inaccurate (deliberately?) stories like this that they are able to get away with it.
The point of the story is true. There were some factual errors which did not alter the story. One factual error was The Australian said wind farms were producing 5780MW when it should have been 189.72MW. That is an error in FAVOR of wind farms approx 30 fold in favor
Big,,,,W is expected to make a loss of up to $17 million this year,,,,
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-25/woolworths-to-cut-500-jobs/7657166
has,,,,,announced that 30 stores will close, including 17 supermarkets in Australia, six supermarkets in New Zealand, four Woolworths metro stores and three hotels,,,,,
#yaaaay.boardrooms #they`re.worth.every.penny
So,,,,,,,there is a person here who has the potential to contribute positively to the country â but no, we lock her up in detention.”
Mr Jafari, who will have to leave his family and job to follow Mojgan to Darwin, said all he wanted was the chance for a normal, safe life,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
# ,, saw this on telly, more fcuking disgusting treatment of folks by the cnuts in canberra
https://t.co/4I4aqXW1Ak
Also check-out the photo, they are dressed `aussie`, no hijab in sight, they`re `fully` assimilating and yet the teabags `still` treat them like shit. Massive teabag fail. Very kristian of them l suppose.
ha-ha
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2016/mar/30/2016-is-census-year-but-you-can-stick-your-census-in-your-ear-you-wont-get-any-data-here
# ,, moon-dog, disobedient penguin and the guardian pinkists seem to be following `my` Love of the ABS now-a-days (-:
Also check-out the photo, they are dressed `aussie`, no hijab in sight, they`re `fully` assimilating and yet the teabags `still` treat them like shit. Massive teabag fail. Very kristian of them l suppose.
Just saw the story on abc australian story, it’s heartwrenching.
The 4 Corners on the abuse of kids in detention that follows it looks to be pretty harrowing viewing. Nothing justifies that shit, it’s inhumane. You wouldn’t treat animals like that.
WTF have we become as a nation?
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/c5fe486cec8708db4bb026ecfad258d35c1ca578/0_0_2400_4355/master/2400.jpg?w=940&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=c6915df47d24bc4f4424d5d88579ea4d
Interesting article from crikey which brings the liberal party’s fascist connections back into focus.
I remember this 2014 article about the libs and their fascist mates.
Tony Abbott, the NDH and the Liberal Party’s fascist affair
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/tony-abbott-the-ndh-and-the-liberal-partys-fascist-affair,6411
…Why did Liberal MP Craig Kelly give a speech at a function celebrating the creation of a Croatian fascist state on behalf of PM Tony Abbott? Dr Binoy Kampmark looks at the uncomfortably close links between the NSW Liberal right and European neo-Nazi extremists…
I watched that too AO. Unbelievable!
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Yes, it is wonderful, in that teabag sort of way, that we as a nation have successfully transplanted our off-shore gulag system, to an on-shore gulag system for kids in the NT so seamlessly. #4corners
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# ,, great moon-dog link too armchair, thanks
I too just watched Four Corners (we have it on record) – Abu Graib shyte alright!
I seethed at that vision and that fkn minister! Heartless, incompetent prick he is! Fancy going to a TV interview without viewing ALL of the footage – from 2014!
Training was the problem, he said – MY ARSE that was plain dumb management!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Not a good day here either!
Been at the hospital all day … The Minister suddenly passed out sitting at her computer this morning … our computer locations mean we sit back to back and it took me a couple of seconds to react to – “I’m going to pass out” … not something that happens every day!
… ambulance was there within five minutes (daughter within five seconds – “T, get here now!” is not the way I talk to her normally) … luckily she ran her own training business – in First Aid … and with my time in OH&S we had her on the floor in the “position” by the time the paras turned up …
She’s fine at the moment – they’ll do some more checks on her heart tomorrow … everything else checks out fine but she had very low blood-pressure …
Very unnerving to say the least …
The lesson of course is get basic first aid training NOW if you don’t already have it!
sorry to hear that TB, must’ve been one hell of a fright, hope things are ok.
tb,,,,,MY ARSE that was plain dumb management!,,,,,
# ,, disagree, the 5or6 kids staying in their cells, 2 of which were playing cards, that was `willful` assault, gassing and child-abuse (5or6 counts of), the `one` kid going-off was the `only` kid the guards had `any` right to `take-action` with, and what they did was `over-kill`
,,,,,going to a TV interview without viewing ALL of the footage,,,,,
# ,, blatant fcuking Lie, l reckon, he didn`t want to answer awkward questions
# ,, hope all goes well with mrs-tb, over-night observation at hospital l take it
Similar thing happened to my mum while we were at a shopping centre TB, we got an ambulance quick too.
She was on antihypertensives and her B/P went too low the ambos said.
It’s really scary!
Sending best wishes and hope the minister is feeling better now and getting lots of TLC from hubby at home!
I watched that too AO. Unbelievable!
You can see how it can happen when there is widespread racism and prejudice throughout the NT and it’s government systems.
The NT News is more worried about croc photos and hobnobbing with the people who think themselves important than doing any investigative reporting.
Yes, sreb, tbagz, she’s staying overnight but was looking fine when I took some things up for her … (watching bloody MasterChef!) 🙂
She’s a Viking remember (born in Friesland) … tough as nails …
Probably shouldn’t have popped in here … but … its so fkn quiet!
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disagree, the 5or6 kids staying in their cells etc etc …
Disagree … tbagz ? NONE of what I saw should have happened … management created the situation … try sitting in your bedroom for a week and you’ll get a bit of an idea! And that’s comfortable (I hope?) 😉
From The Minister down it was blatant child abuse, cruelty and unwarranted viciousness.
They all should go!
blatant fcuking Lie, l reckon, he didn`t want to answer awkward questions
Me too, can’t go for plausible deniability if you do know anything about it.
Training was the problem, he said – MY ARSE that was plain dumb management!
It would’ve been the NT type training, full of racist hatred, attitudes and beliefs. The cops and correctional services people might as well wear KKK hoods [actually they have been accused of doing so in the past].
Thanks KL. Scary alright! She’ll get the TLC tomorrow … (we think?? hope?) 😉
You can see how it can happen when there is widespread racism and prejudice throughout the NT and it’s government systems.
Agree, KL, and it really does start with government policies and legislation and whoever the minister is administering it … (just have a look at Dopey Dutton) …
Suspect a busy day tomorrow … sleep well everyone …
TB, all the best to your best. Hope she is feeling better tomorrow
Sounds scary, but it quite often is really nothing. But always good to check it all out. You’re a lucky man to have such a support network around you. Although, I don’t think it is ‘luck’ that they are there when needed.
But I do hope it doesn’t turn out to be anything serious.
tb,,,,,try sitting in your bedroom for a week,,,,,
# ,, yeah, fair point, l forgot that bit
tb,,,,,From The Minister down it was blatant child abuse, cruelty and unwarranted viciousness. They all should go!,,,,,#agree
ao,,,,,he NT and it’s government systems,,,,,
# ,, don`t expect it to get any better, they `re-opened` for business in the asbestos saturated old berimah prison, no `foreseeable` problems there
ao,,,,,doing any investigative reporting,,,,,
# ,, what, you want nt-limited-news to `rebel` against the rest of the Limited-News monster (-:
(Well you locked up 8,469 children last time. Most probably double that next time.
Natural totalitarians never change their spots.)
(Wishing you and yours well, and better soon, too, TB.)
Thanks meta, the UN Convention on theRights of the Child is a wonderful document, pretty sure that no politician in this country [or any other] has taken much notice of it.
More and more, I want to agitate for a Bill of Rights in Australia. The calibre of our politicians [mediocre people] and their obvious bias [white, middle aged males] means 50% of the population and minorities are not represented. The creeping religious influence in our politics and policies [spreading outwards] means our so-called democracy isn’t working and is unrepresentative for so many of us. Human rights have always been anathema to a liberal, they believe property and corporations have more rights than human beings.
Hope your wife is ok TB.
I’ve always thought she must be wonderfully tolerant. A woman of tremendous forbearance
Yeah
I hope all goes well TB
“it`s a pretty safe bet that splatts, ……… have catlick on their birth-certs.”
Wrong again, Retardland. Methodist.
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All the best for the Minister, TB.
Thanks for your thoughts everyone (especially ToM) 😉 … still waiting for final tests …
https://www.change.org/p/hon-adam-giles-mla-end-the-abuse-of-young-people-in-nt-detention?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=621248&alert_id=uOTajSzSaC_N4V9CwzGmSP6u7yxbsxymI6sT0Z2cQ2zPSqMrUgpK1Y%3D
Hellooooooooooooooooooo !
Is there anybody out there ??????????????????????????
Pretty quiet around here today
yes it is isn’t it.
my-abc,,,,,Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has announced he will establish a royal commission into Northern Territory juvenile detention after revelations raised on ABC`s Four Corner`s program,,,,,
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-26/turnbull-calls-for-royal-commission-into-don-dale/7660164
# ,, of course he did, how else will a north-shore, water-front dwelling teabag be able to strut the international stage and convince everybody his off-shore gulags doesn`t treat captives any different to captives in his on-shore gulags, we have to keep-up the `superior-kristian` illusion don`tcha know
Of course this has nothing for do with religion or Islam…
http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/hostages-taken-in-french-church-in-normandy-region/news-story/77883e137bf0b52683640764527f5c96
ACCC’s Rod Sims ‘exasparated’ as privatisations ‘increase prices’
http://www.afr.com/news/economy/acccs-rod-sims-exasparated-as-privatisations-increase-prices-20160726-gqdyjv#ixzz4FVoOx9s1
…The head of the competition regulator has called out governments for blatantly structuring asset sales to maximise profits at the expense of consumers and businesses.
Australian Competition and Consumer Commission chairman Rod Sims said he had been a strong advocate of privatisation for 30 years because he believed it enhanced economic efficiency but he now believed “people in the street” who oppose privatisation because it raises prices had it right based on recent port sales in NSW.
He said he was now “almost at the point of opposing privatisation” because state and federal governments were becoming increasingly blatant about structuring sales to maximise proceeds at the expense of competition…
.https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/757891781673426944
“# ,, of course he did, how else will a north-shore, water-front dwelling teabag be able to……………….”
Teabagz,
He lives in Point Piper……………….that’s Sydney’s Eastern Suburbs and certainly not North Shore
http://www.domain.com.au/news/inside-malcolm-turnbulls-point-piper-mansion-20150206-137xhj/
Beheading an elderly priest! Must have been asking for it… it’s a religion of peace you know
“Beheading an elderly priest!”
Clearly the work of extremist Catklicks
Ain’t multiculturalism grand? France is paying the price of having a large Muslim community.
Self-fisting leftist of the week goes to the BBC editor who came up with the headline: “Syrian Migrant Dies in German Blast”.
, of course he did, how else will a north-shore, water-front dwelling teabag be able to strut the international stage and convince everybody his off-shore gulags doesn`t treat captives any different to captives in his on-shore gulags
The current off-shore gulags and the people locked up was done by the ALP from 2007-2013. ie the govt you voted for.
There were only 6 boat people in detention in 2007
“Syrian Migrant Dies in German Blast”.
And perhaps “Two Saudi Arabians on joyflight crash jetliners into World Trade Towers”
Or ” Tunisian Truck Driver loses control of truck on Nice roadway”
More like “Saudi migrants killed in New York building demolition”
Or “Two Muslims die after walking into Catholic Church”
Elderly Catholic priest dies of natural causes.
(I mean, it’s only natural that they want to cut his head off)
I go to the US from time to time. Maybe the people I know aren’t typical, because they all think Trump is drradful.
He’d be a huge disaster
…dreadful.
Just heard on the radio that Tony Windsor and Rob Oakshot both got $70,000 because of the votes they got. Even though they lost.
Thanks blubbers, (-:
domain,,,,,,Like so many Australians, one of the wealthiest members of federal parliament has much of his money tied up in the family home, which in his case is a vast waterfront estate in Point Piper on a scale and grandeur similar to the nearby mansion Altona which sold for $52 million. Malcolm and Lucy Turnbull have proved to be savvy real estate investors,,,,,
# ,, further down,
domain,,,,,Agents familiar with the Point Piper market say the Turnbull home is in a similar price range to its waterfront neighbour. âIt has all the same, key attributes as Altona in terms of size, quality of home, view and waterfrontage,,,,,
# ,, okay it`s not `north-shore`, but is `east-shore`, which really only reinforces my previous spouting, not diminish it (-: (-: (-: #micro.details (-: (-: (-:
While hanging-out with the `surfing-pinkists` at venice-beach sounds lovely, they`re probably not the largest `demographic` (-:
“Julie Bishop recognises that it’s in Australia’s national interest to support Kevin Rudd,”
– Penny Wong July 2016
However, for too long, Kevin Rudd has been putting his own self-interest ahead of the interests of the broader labour movement and the country as a whole, and that needs to stop.”
– Wayne Swan February 2012
“Rudd wasn’t someone who was easy to work with in that way, and his vanity and his exercise of power as prime minister was contrary ultimately, to me, to what good leadership is………….He was [a megalomaniac]. I am not the only one to think it either…………So I am critical of him that’s true, I am very critical but for good reason……………His career is a series of passionate embraces of issues that he then walks away from of you know running government one way in a certain direction and then turning around and heading off in another direction a couple of days later,”
-Peter Garrett October 2015
While keeping-up the `superior-kristian` illusion, and strutting the international stage, the EAST-shore, water-front dwelling teabag may be requested to supply VIDEO of his off-shore gulags treatment of captives, to prove they are treated as `good` as his on-shore gulags captives.
PJ O”Rourke was speaker the the National Press Club today, hilarious and insightful – such a pointed (conservative) observer.
And Bill Clinton’s speech at the Democrat convention – that guy knows how to deliver great sentiment, pity he can’t run. But Hilary will do well with Bill running international policy
“But Hilary will do well with Bill running international policy”
And all the new hiring of interns that will be required
l agree blubbers, bill is hanging-out for the fresh interns (-:
# ,, hillary won`t make it, bernies opening sounded desperate, and his `followers` weren`t buying it, they`ll stay-home or go the-ronald, they`re NOT `establishment` voters
VIDEO of his off-shore gulags treatment of captives,
I dealt with this comment before. They are not his off-shore gulags they are yours. It was the ALP the party you voted for who locked up 50,000 boat people.
Lots of “look over there’s” here … when the BIG story is right here at home … well in the NT (and STATES!) …
What an uneducated, ill informed, isolated, Dickhead Bernardi is …
Ohhhhhhhh TEABAGs!!!!
my-abc,,,,,,Police are investigating multiple child abuse allegations levelled directly against Australia’s most senior Catholic cleric Cardinal George Pell, the ABC’s 7.30 program has revealed.
Key points
* Victoria Police investigating multiple complaints of sexual abuse by Cardinal George Pell * Complaints range from the 1970s to the 1990s, when Pell established the Catholic Church’s response to sexual abuse allegations * Pell describes the claims as “totally untrue and utterly wrong”
Victoria Police’s Taskforce SANO, which investigates complaints coming out of the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse, has been examining the allegations by complainants from Ballarat, Torquay and Melbourne for more than a year,,,,,
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-27/victoria-police-investigating-george-pell-over-abuse-complaints/7664674
Where is he????? Where is `my` fcuking pedo-defending Teabag???? Yes, the teabag from boltland???? Come-Out, Come-Out, where ever you are.
lt was absolutely fcuking delicious that reportland showed the clip of john-w defending his pedo-mate pell tonight, l hope it gets replayed loudly and often.
When an east-shore, water-front dwelling teabag takes `occupancy` of his prime-meddlers office, certain items are attached to his office by default and cannot be separated from his office, his on-shore gulags, his off-shore gulags, his vietnam-like wars predestined to absolute failure, and his party negotiated preconditions that hang around his neck millstone-like. Other items `may` at first-look appear to be attached to his office, such as a long-term opposition leader, but they are not. #yaaay.blib
Cardinal Pell …
nuff said …
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I’m a little surprised that it took IS so long to take on a “soft” Catholic church … and a poor old bugger who was 81 years old … not something to “joke” about I would think … but by all accounts someone to admire … condolences to his family …
The same pattern emerges … suspect arrested, jailed, released, poorly monitored and an attack …
Pollies and PS around the world are so incompetent it really is becoming frightening … almost like a “plan” with so much – “coincidence” ‘..
“Cardinal Pell …
nuff said … ”
More like …………….
ABC
nuff said
I suppose 7:30 Report ran it in between it daily reports on “Man Made Climate Change” and its weekly “Australia is Full of Racists” segments
Coal is behind the attacks on wind turbines. It’s fighting for its life
http://www.theage.com.au/comment/coal-is-behind-the-attacks-on-wind-turbines-its-fighting-for-its-life-20160727-gqeln3.html
…The complaint is about spot prices, those instant short-lived prices the big industrial users have to pay if they haven’t insured against sudden movements, as a lot have not. Spot prices did indeed jump into the stratosphere a week or so back when the wind wasn’t blowing. The typical spot price facing an industrial customer is $100 per megawatt hour. Suddenly they faced $14,000 – a more than 100-fold increase. Ever since South Australia closed its last coal-fired power plants and mothballed its newest and most efficient gas plant it has had to import extra power from interstate when the wind has been low.
Normally, this isn’t much of a problem, but as it happened the main cable used to import power from the eastern states was operating way below capacity when the wind dropped. It was being upgraded from a maximum capacity of 460 to 650 megawatts. That’ll mean fewer problems in the future, but it created an awfully big problem at the time. So much so that the South Australian government directed the Pelican Point gas-fired power near Adelaide to get back on line.
It had been closed because the owner could make more money selling its gas contracts to exporters. So South Australia faced special circumstances. The gas export boom had closed one backup power supply and work on upgrading a line had closed another…
…And guess which industry has been most heavily promoting the canary in the coalmine argument? Yes, the coal industry, through the Minerals Council of Australia…
…That’s the future facing our traditional generators as more turbines get built. Not blackouts, not big price spikes, but extinction. I reckon it’s the real reason their friends are upset…
Turnbull government’s green shift to back renewables:
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/turnbull-governments-green-shift-to-back-renewables-20160727-gqf6kv.html
…And he has stated that recent price spikes in South Australia – where energies such as wind and solar power make up 40 per cent plus of supply, and Tasmania where the figure is above to 90 per cent – were not solely the fault of high renewable energy dependencies but to a “complex of factors” including the failure of other energy distribution infrastructure such as Basslink, as well as the effects of drought, a cold snap, and high gas prices arising from inadequate supplies and suppliers…
Hillary Clinton is copping the same sexist rubbish as Julia Gillard:
http://www.theage.com.au/comment/clinton-is-coping-the-same-sexist-rubbish-as-gillard-20160727-gqeolc.html
…At the Republican Convention last week, attendees had the chance to wear their sexist derision for Hillary Clinton with pride. Just outside, hawkers sold T-shirts emblazoned with “Trump vs Tramp”, bumper stickers proclaiming “Life’s a bitch, don’t vote for one,” and the badges printed with “KFC Hillary Special: 2 fat thighs, 2 small breasts, one left wing”…
AO- Hillary Clinton is copping the same sexist rubbish as Julia Gillard:
“Trump vs Tramp”, bumper stickers proclaiming “Life’s a bitch, don’t vote for one,” and the badges printed with “KFC Hillary Special: 2 fat thighs, 2 small breasts, one left wing”…
I think those stickers and badges are outrageous.
But can you identify when people displayed similar badges and stickers about Gillard?
I don’t think we have an equivalent of the masses of Trump supporters here, perhaps only pockets of Queensland that supported Palmer.
I don’t think mainstream politics in Australia has any similarity to the bizarre Trump circus and it’s appeal to some in the USA
I suppose 7:30 Report ran it in between it daily reports on “Man Made Climate Change” and its weekly “Australia is Full of Racists” segments
Unions == BOO! or “Will Bob Shorton survive as leader NOW()?”
The only difference is, the exampled you used are based in facts, the ones I used are based on … wishes?
But can you identify when people displayed similar badges and stickers about Gillard?
I guess that’s the main difference, the attacks here emanated from the liberal party itself, not crazies with stickers
“But can you identify when people displayed similar badges and stickers about Gillard?”
I think the Lefties are trying to parallel it with the famous Chicken Menu similarly describing that grub Gillard.
But they conveniently forget that Germaine Greer on Q&A also spoke of the size of Gillard’s arse
The difference between Clinton and the grub we know as Gillard is that Gillard was pretty well universally loathed (hence they got rid of her) but not so Clinton
That’s true and maybe that’s a fair point. But people like Palmer/Trump have marginal appeal here.
Trump is an awful prospect. Ego overwhelms judgement
“What an uneducated, ill informed, isolated, Dickhead
BernardiTB is …”Bernardi, on the other hand is correct. It is about time to look at the massive contribution of leftist PC fuckwits to the destruction of families, with predictable outcomes.
I think the Lefties are trying to parallel it with the famous Chicken Menu similarly describing that grub Gillard.
Amongst others, one of which you highlighted.
Oh how we yearn for the idyllic days of peaceful reflection on the size and shape of the PM’s earlobes.
Yeah! Not to menion the hair on Abbott’s chest
I recall a former contributor saying- hubby wears board shorts, so should Abbott
Thereby demonstrating complete ignorance about the difference between ocean swimming/surf lifesaving and paddling in the shallows
I find it amazing that in a country of 300 million people the USA cannot get better candidates. I guess talented people do not want to put up with the abuse no matter what you do.
Yeah! Not to menion the hair on Abbott’s chest
Well, if he stopped his ‘virility’ angle, we wouldn’t have to see it, would we
What…people that participate in physical activity such as surf lifesaving are displaying a virility angle?
All those volunteers at the beach that rescue drowning drunks and pull people in from a rip are just doing it to prove virility?
That’s actually f**king ridiculous
Why do left types hate volunteers so much?
At the Pier to Pub a couple of years ago, I saw Steve Bracks and John Thwaites participating in the swim.
Bracks had on one of those small wetsuits that display the back fat, Thwaits was wearing speedos. Those blokes weren’t just swimming in an event with thousands of other people, they were displaying their “virility angle”!!
“…..they were displaying their “virility angle”!!
LOL………….Obviously
“Why do left types hate volunteers so much?”
Surf Life Savers
Country Fire Authority
Salvation Army ?????
Tony Abbott was a member of the New South Wales Rural Fire Service.
So we can add them to the list too
All those volunteers at the beach that rescue drowning drunks and pull people in from a rip are just doing it to prove virility?
How many sent a callout to reporters to attend these events?
We know yabot was famous for that.
Also, I don’t recall too many major news outlets focussing on that, in fact, most comments towards that were wtte, why focus on Gillard and her body, when yabots running around half naked half the time?
“Why do left types hate the politicization of volunteers so much?”
Really? We know he called reporters? Which ones?
“The difference between Clinton and the grub we know as Gillard is that Gillard was pretty well universally loathed (hence they got rid of her) but not so Clinton”
Two thirds of Americans don’t trust Klintoon. The other third are obviously very gullible.
Which ones?
You can be sure murdochs minions would have been top of the list
We’ll… I’ll have to take your infallible word for it, because you have no idea.
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On the other hand, ALP/unions mistrust volunteers. Just look at the way (that dill) Danny Andrews treated the volunteers at the CFA. Just look at the broadly directed disparaging remarks about surf lifesavers in speedos, the hostility that the HEF shows towards hospital volunteers, the restrictions teacher unions seek to place on parent’s associations in schools
The left don’t trust volunteers – probably because they think all work should be paid.
“Why do left types hate the politicization of volunteers so much?”
Bullshit. The CFA got shafted because Andrews and the UFU are Unionland mongrels.
blubbering,,,,,,,,,,,,,ABC ,, ,, nuff said ,, ,, I suppose 7:30 Report ran it in between it daily reports on `Man Made Climate Change` and its weekly `Australia is Full of Racists` segments,,,,,,,,,,,,
# ,, l suppose some prefer to jump straight into the deep-end of `catlick-pedo-defending` instead of `actually` watching reportland now-a-days #i.suppose
treated the volunteers at the CFA
He didn’t treat them in any way. That was all in the minds of politicians and journalists.
The left don’t trust volunteers
Why is then that not for profits are always targetted only by the libs?
So, apart from within your head, it seems the ones who don’t like volunteers are libs, who are happy to use them for political purposes, but are their worst enemy when the rubber hits the road.
Has saintmal done anything about the non existent issue with the CFA yet?
the non existent issue with the CFA
Yeah! non existent alright.
* The responsible ALP minister resigned rather than submit to Andrews
* There was a Supreme Court injunction against the agreement
* The CFA Board resigned rather than sign the toxic agreement
* The CEO was forced out
* The CFO was forced out
…still as long as Danny’s union mates are happy, it’s all fine.
Unionland mongrels.
lol, yea, that’s it ROFL
You mean all those ‘mongrels’ who are constantly being set free from the turc rubbish charges? THOSE mongrels, whose biggest sin appears to be innocence.
teabag,,,,,people like Palmer/Trump have,,,,,
# ,, Wrong Comparison
# ,, try abbott/trump
teabag,,,,,Trump is an awful prospect. Ego overwhelms judgement,,,,,
# ,, never stopped rabbit
# ,, the-ronald is running the rabbit `play-book`
teabag,,,,,can you identify when people displayed similar badges and stickers about Gillard?,,,,,
# ,, rabbit and friends standing in front of `ditch-the-b/w-itch` signs not enough for`ya dummy?????
CFA Board resigned … because they couldn’t accept that they had issues, and preferred to ignore the recommendations from the commission into the Victorian forest fires.
# ,, rabbit and friends standing in front of `ditch-the-b/w-itch` signs not enough for`ya dummy?????
Yep, the stoopid, it burns.
preferred to ignore the recommendations from the commission into the Victorian forest fires.
We have discussed that point before and I looked at the report, and you had nothing
But apparently the ALP minister wanted to ignore that too, so did the ALP appointed CEO
pom-poms,,,,,,,Will Bob Shorton survive as leader NOW,,,,,
# ,, blib is safe, he will successfully manage them thru their decade in the wilderness with many claims of `nearly-victory` along the way, the team has stuck gold so rapidly in finding in finding their very-own `beazley` replacement, learning the lesson of `cleaning-house` will not be anywhere near as rapid #yaaay.blib
And Tom R, where in the Royal Commission Report does it recommend to come up with an EBA that requires about a hundred clauses requiring reaching union agreement?
We have discussed that point before and I looked at the report, and you had nothing
This is yomms ‘nothing’
But Tom R thinks, it’s only about them not doing what the Royal Commission recommended!!
https://theguttertrash.com/2016/06/30/its-the-election/#comment-129360
reaching union agreement?
What the fuck happened to “VETO!!” ROFL
Oh, was that bullshit?
From ao’s link to Peter Martin, this was interesting
On the face of it, it’s an odd idea: that adding a new and very cheap source of power should push up prices (wind turbines cost next to nothing to operate). And for the record, it’s not true. South Australia has more wind turbines than any other state. They supply more than one-third of its power. Yet a graph prepared by the Australian National University’s Hugh Saddler shows that South Australia’s average electricity price was much higher when they only provided 10 per cent.
Cos, that’s what I said before also. We’ve had crap power issues for years in SA, they were always bad, but they got atrocious once we privatised. Renewables, as shown by Peter Martin, is way of fixing this.
Are you kidding? If one party is required to reach agreement with another about hundreds of items, the agreement can be withheld – therefore they are able to veto decisions.
Renewables, as shown by Peter Martin, is way of fixing this.
Peter martin is almost as corrupt as Stephen Koukoulas.
Any body who believes anything these two people say is also as corrupt as they are
the agreement can be withheld
It is always at the discrimination of the Fair Work commission, therefore, there is no veto!
The Union may not agree, but the agreement can still progress.
I thought you worked in this field yomm?
Peter martin is almost as corrupt as Stephen Koukoulas.
Any body who believes anything these two people say is also as corrupt as they are
blubbers,,,,,,,,the grub we know as Gillard is that Gillard was pretty well universally loathed,,,,,
# ,, hillary is very well known and has very strong opinion of her, LOVE or HATE
,,,,,Life`s a bitch, don`t vote for one,,,,,
# ,, this type of crap will be used and hillary-cheerers will try to play the `feminista-card`, `misogyny-card` or `whatever-card` to no avail, as the rednecks and crackers have already lined-up behind the-ronald during the teabag-preselections
# ,, ultimately, this election is for the-ronald to lose, not hillary to win
Oh…ffs
What world do you inhabit?
FWA will determine the operational decisions and hear from the union and management? But 90% of the firefighting resources are volunteers
What world do you inhabit?
The one where “veto” means what it says. The union has no power of veto, unless you can show somewhere how?
But 90% of the firefighting resources are volunteers
And what % of fires are fought by them?
“lol, yea, that’s it ROFL”
Yep. That’s what a troll does!
A decent minister would, of course, sacrifice her career rather than be complicit in Unionland bastardry. But Tom the Troll just rolls around laughing!
Unionland bastardry
Protecting fire fighters safety, in line with a Royal Commissions findings, is “Unionland bastardry” 😯
And an ALP minister resigned… rather than sign it. Why do you ignore that fact?
…and perhaps just point out exactly where this agreement was recommended by the Royal Commission
…and perhaps just point out exactly where this agreement was recommended by the Royal Commission
Just for the record, it is the other way around. …………….and
But Tom R thinks, it’s only about them not doing what the Royal Commission recommended!!
https://theguttertrash.com/2016/06/30/its-the-election/#comment-129360
Hey TomRoll,
Your answer missed a bit………..
“And an ALP minister resigned… rather than sign it. Why do you ignore that fact?
Care to answer ToM’s question ?
Care to answer ToM’s question ?
Well, considering I have no idea about the personal or ootherwise machinations behind the decision, how can I?
Of course, I could speculate, but I’ll stick with the facts.
Which is, the Union is putting forward a proposal that adds safety to professionals (and, by extension, volunteers) working conditions
In a manner of what the Royal Commission recommended.
Is that enough of an answer for you?
I’ll put my money on ‘not’ 😉
I think the Lefties are trying to parallel it with the famous Chicken Menu similarly describing that grub Gillard. But they conveniently forget that Germaine Greer on Q&A also spoke of the size of Gillard’s arse
So if germaine makes a sexist remark that makes it OK for everyone else to follow suit?
Oh how we yearn for the idyllic days of peaceful reflection on the size and shape of the PM’s earlobes.
Yes, tomm was a prime offender there, her earlobes, the way she spoke, the way she walked, her wardrobe wasn’t up to fif’i’s couture either, her bosom and decollete, her hair colour, pretty much every thing she did and everything she said wasn’t it tomM?
She has now been proven to have presided over a much more stable government than abbott could ever hope for, despite all the sexism that was fueled by abbott and his flunkies.
I really haven’t noticed any commentary on any of the other woman in parliament, then or since. Certainly no-one is telling us how bad the blokes look in their outfits or how they wear their hair [the rare ones who have any]. I haven’t heard anything about what I think is quite inappropriate work wear of the foreign minister julie bishop, who often looks like she’s off to a hollywood event, dressed by the same designers too. Or those long, large pearl bobbydazzler earrings that really don’t suit her at all. Nope, no-one has said anything in word or print, here or in the media.
Gillard was a swot, she was more into policy than dressing for male pleasure. If she had a suitable neat and tidy outfit showcasing an aussie designer that also happened to be comfortable to wear all day, she was happy.
# ,, rabbit and friends standing in front of `ditch-the-b/w-itch` signs not enough for`ya dummy?????
Yes
.
“pretty much every thing she did and everything she said wasn’t it tomM?
Yes, I don’t like bogans.
Which recommendation of the Royal Commission proposed this agreement?
AO,,,,,Nope, no-one has said anything in word or print, here or in the media,,,,,
# ,, keep waiting patiently armchair, sooner or later an antique-feminista will turn-up on qandaland and screech about malcoms-arse and malcolms-jackets, once that`s done with, malcolm will have to face-down loud-mouth radio-dills over Lucy`s implied `lesbian-ness` and `sham` marriage-partnership. (-:
Which recommendation of the Royal Commission proposed this agreement?
You really are digging a hole aren’t you yomm.
The Royal Commission didn’t propose THIS agreement. But even someone with blinkers wrapped as tight as yours could see that.
It did propose unambiguous command and control
Which some idiot tried to argue away with
I think “unambiguous command and control” is quite different to giving the union the right of veto over operational decisions.
Which, as we have seen, isn’t related to the actual point, and, even worst, is just plain bullshit. There is no veto.
But, the agreement does give “unambiguous command and control” to professional firies in certain circumstances.
Which aligns with the recommendations.
And which certain, and becoming more obviously minor, sections of the CFA seem to bristle at.
In the end, it is about firefighters safety. Which becomes obvious when you note that these elements in CFA have now largely quit rather than stand for a principle that is obviously flawed, and is backed by a political party who have NEVER cared for grunts safety or conditions.
but,but,but, ,, according to pell on telly news, ,, its `all a conspiracy by my abc and boltland plod for a, ,, wait for it, ,, a `trial`by media #guffaw
the orourke press club is being re-run, yep, quite funny (-:
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Unambiguous command and control apparently means consult and agree!
The English language, amaing!
“but I’ll stick with the
factsparty line. As the world’s best troll, I owe it to my Unionland paymasters not to deviate from the party line.”“Nailed it.”
For a very smart guy Turnbull cant even make the most simple decision to tell Rudd to fuck off. The ALP told us he was a complete and utter madman
Unbelievable…………………..what is there to think about ?
And if the argument goes that denying Rudd goes against precedent………………..then surely it shows just how fucked precedents are……………………..afterall we are just talking about jobs for the boys/girls within the Beltway
People are fucking fed up with politicians treating decisions affecting themselves as somehow more important than running the cuntry.
# ,, keep waiting patiently armchair, sooner or later an antique-feminista will turn-up on qandaland and screech about malcoms-arse and malcolms-jackets, once that`s done with, malcolm will have to face-down loud-mouth radio-dills over Lucy`s implied `lesbian-ness` and `sham` marriage-partnership.
Yeah, wasn’t that a time for our media jocks to shine.
The only time malcolm’s suit has been mentioned has been when abbott’s observed that he’s got better ones than those hair suits that he wears [another ‘donation’ that he accepts]
NT Juvenile Detention Abuse Royal Commissioner Needs No Introduction To Black Territorians
https://newmatilda.com/2016/07/28/nt-juvenile-detention-abuse-royal-commissioner-needs-no-introduction-to-black-territorians/
The ALP told us he was a complete and utter madman
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3438348.htm
STEPHEN CONROY, COMMUNICATIONS MINISTER: Kevin Rudd had contempt for the cabinet, contempt for the cabinet members, contempt for the caucus, contempt for the Parliament. And ultimately what brought him down a year or two ago was the Australian public worked out that he had contempt for them as well.
“……And ultimately what brought him down a year or two ago was the Australian public worked out that he had contempt for them as well………”
Yep
And Turnbull has to ignore the political risk of throwing Rudd supporter Julie Bishop “under a bus” if he tells Rudd to fuck off.
Afterall with her supporting Rudd she’s the one that ran out in front of the “bus” in the first place
And again on precedent. Anthony Albanese’s hypocrisry is totally exposed by the way he blocked John Howard’s approach to become the first head of the NRL
“The brutal execution of John Howard’s hope to be the Chief Commissioner for a new independent Rugby League Commission by the Labor Left hard man, the Federal MP Anthony Albanese, was totally predictable.”
http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/24/john-howard-is-out-of-his-rugby-league/
The rumour is that NBN Mark 2 was thought up on a plane flight. The reason it was done this way was because Conroy could never get time with Rudd so he could make a decision so he managed to lasso him on a lane flight. Rudd was totally disfunctional. There may be some similarities between Rudd and Turnbull
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Australia’s sporting bodies: big bucks and the same old faces
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jul/29/griffith-review-essay-see-how-they-run-sports-governance-in-australia?CMP=share_btn_tw
…In a major essay for the Griffith Review on sports governance, Gideon Haigh finds that despite a demanding fan base and TV money supporting multimillion-dollar businesses, much of Australian sport still relies on a ‘curious mix of cosy privilege and noblesse oblige’…
…‘You look at these boards and committees, and it’s always the same set of white male faces, from the same schools, the same universities, the same metropolitan circles,” complained a senior manager at a big sport. “Where is the cultural diversity, the regional diversity, the educational and social diversity?”
Not to mention gender diversity, because in this respect sporting Australia makes corporate Australia look like a bunch of lesbian separatists. The proportion of women on the boards of sports organisations has only recently grown beyond the derisory, and mainly through coercion. Under Winning Edge, the ASC mandated that each national sporting organisation “should seek to achieve a target of 40% representation of females on their boards” by 2015 – a target the ASC itself actually failed to achieve, its nine-member board featuring just three women…
“If governments want fewer Don Dale correction centres, then take a tougher stand on school attendance, welfare to work and enabling real economies in Indigenous communities where enterprise can grow. And implement mandatory diversionary programs for juvenile offenders, requiring them to go into jobs and education instead of detention.”
-Warren Mundine AO
Read more: http://www.afr.com/opinion/a-royal-commission-satisfies-the-outrage-of-the-elites-20160728-gqg97k#ixzz4Fl73Ew3d
As the world’s best troll
Do I get a plaque at least?
afterall we are just talking about jobs for the boys/girls within the Beltway
Not that I would want to see rudd unloaded on any other poor souls, the fact that they unloaded the likes of hockey and downer on other countries doesn’t really support them saying no in this case. And if they do, should not be surprised at the cries of hypocrisy that will, quite rightly, arise.
Anthony Albanese’s hypocrisry
Are you able to highlight the hypocritical point in relation to Anthony Albanese?
The rumour is that NBN Mark 2 was thought up on a plane flight.
Does it really matter? I mean, the idea of facebook came up at the pub. Ideas germinate anywhere/everywhere.
Look to the implementation. By any measure, the ALP’s rollout was far superior to the dogs breakfast going on now.
Very brave/stupid of malcayman. Doesn’t he remember what rudd did to his own party when he was crossed?
Turnbull government won’t nominate Kevin Rudd for UN secretary-general role
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2016-07/28/21/asset/buzzfeed-prod-web01/sub-buzz-20023-1469757222-1.jpg?resize=625:417&no-auto
Does it really matter?
It shows how disfunctional Rudd was. His own Ministers had trouble meeting him. Conroy could only latch on to him on a plane flight.
By any measure, the ALP’s rollout was far superior to the dogs breakfast going on now.
By any measure? There were only 100,000 homes connected to the NBN when Labor lost office. Only 12 million to go.
nil, you should probably refrain from exposing your unique stupidity quite so often.
#justsaying
“And if they do, should not be surprised at the cries of hypocrisy that will, quite rightly, arise.”
So Rudd is no longer a madman is that now the case?
So Rudd is no longer a madman is that now the case?
WOW, talk about ignorantly oblivious to what was written.
NO, I am definitely not saying that.
I am simply saying, he’s not the ONLY madman, and others have been given very high profile roles that affect our relationship with other trading partners
“WOW, talk about ignorantly oblivious to what was written.”
Perhaps because its not worth responding to.
But you are quite OK with a madman in charge of the UN.
And you conveniently forget that Tony Abbott extended Kim Beazley’s appointment.
Perhaps because its not worth responding to.
But ‘feeding teh troll” is just too alluring, aint it 😉
And you conveniently forget that Tony Abbott extended Kim Beazley’s appointment.
Up until hockley needed a ‘none leaning’ position, yea…. not so much
And you conveniently forget to explain about Anthony Albanese
“And you conveniently forget to explain about Anthony Albanese”
Not at all. Why did he block Howard’s appointment to the NRL board but is now in favour of a madman ruling the World
Why did he block Howard’s appointment to the NRL board
Could it be because Albanese knows rugby, unlike howard, and knew he would be a poor choice.
But yes, he shouldn’t have got involved. pollies should stay out of those things, at all times. Because, IF howard had got the job, after bank rolling them, how would that look?
I note he never got the job though, even after Albanese stopped interfering.
I’d also add, it is poor choices like this made by Albanese that highlight why Shorten was the better choice.
“Could it be because Albanese knows rugby”
It’s Rugby League not Rugby Union………. and Albanese ( a South Sydney supporter) knows about as much about it as Howard (a St George-Illawarra supporter)
It’s Rugby League not Rugby Union
Don’t the fellas spend most of the game with their heads stuck up their team mates arses in both codes.
Seems the same enough to me 😉
“Don’t the fellas spend most of the game with their heads stuck up their team mates arses in both codes.”
Don’t criticise it until you’ve been there!
Just giving you a heads up, Tom R.
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Just giving you a heads up, Tom R.
😆 😆
Good to see the Coalition’s 1st Cabinet meeting was water-tight
Good to see they are so divided and crystal on what is really a minor matter.
Imagine if they had to formulate a response to a GFC or something with actuall consequence.
Actually, that would be easy come to think of it.
“Rupe, wadda we do now!”
Who gave ex lib leader Brenda Nelson his current role?
“…And you conveniently forget that Tony Abbott extended Kim Beazley’s appointment…”
Who pulled out ex vic premier Steve bracks?
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/former-victorian-premier-steve-bracks-sacked-by-julie-bishop-in-vindictive-decision-20130909-2tgtp.html
(More conciliation…Don Dale: NT Government withdraws counter-claims against detainees, Chief Minister’s office says
AND We further declare that you are not required by these Our Letters Patent to inquire, or to continue to inquire, into a particular matter to the extent that you are satisfied that the matter has been, is being, or will be, sufficiently and appropriately dealt with by another inquiry or investigation or a criminal or civil proceeding.)
“Who pulled out ex vic premier Steve bracks?”
And who supported Gareth Evans to be head of UNESCO
The Howard government did. We could go on and on…………
So we can therefore assume that had the ALP been in office they would have nominated Rudd to the UN ????????????????
If so it means that …………..
a) The World has just dodged a bullet
b) The UN has just been saved from destruction
c) Australia has just been saved from becoming a laughing stock around the World
And finally it confirms that the ALP has not learnt one fucking thing from the last time it was in Office.
And its now being reported (in papers tomorrow apparentlt) that Turnbull told KRudd in early May that he was not going to be nominated. Turnbull apparently suggested to Rudd that he quietly slip away to avoid embarrassment.
Rudd did no such thing hoping for an ALP election win and if not try and embarrass Turnbull post election by getting Bishop on side.
Typical ego driven Rudd
No wonder South Australia is a financial basket case if this shit is the norm
“HANDS off our schnitz.”
“That’s the rallying cry of punters in Adelaide, where a bizarre plan has been hatched to crackdown on oversized portions of chicken schnitzel………The nanny state has hit its peak in South Australia, with government-funded waste watchdog Keep South Australia Beautiful calling for the serving size of the classic pub fare to be regulated………KSAB boss John Phillips says the organisation is in talks with the State Government to trial the measure, which would force pubs and restaurants to downsize their schnitz……”
Obviously yet another wasteful government department in a bloated public service.
http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/other-industries/bizarre-plan-to-regulate-the-size-of-chicken-schnitzels/news-story/8825a817e801eb3de7aee54a90dd6022
LOL…………now who first coined this slogan and got pilloried for it
“Sometimes nation is more important than party, and we should take a ‘Team Australia’ approach to this issue,” Senator Wong told ABC AM.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-27/kevin-rudd's-bid-to-be-un-boss-set-for-cabinet-consideration/7665096
And then we have Kristina Kenneally on Kevin Rudd…………….
“I’m just going to say what no other Labor figure – because they’re all still in office, won’t say, the man is a psychopathic narcissist and that’s not just my opinion, that’s the opinion of a whole range of people who are currently sitting in the parliament,” ………….I can think of 12 Australians off the top of my head who would be a better secretary-general and one of them is my Labrador so let’s be blunt here, she has a lot more empathy than Kevin Rudd.”
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/kristina-keneally-rudd-is-a-psychopathic-narcissist/news-story/fa86daa11496d6338e88e49810632ac1
But the ALP insisted he be nominated
The ALP have not learnt a fucking thing
b) The UN has just been saved from destruction
That is the only good reason to send Rudd to the UN
blubbers,,,,,c) Australia has just been saved from becoming a laughing stock around the World,,,,
# ,, too late, that horse has bolted
,,,,,b) The UN has just been saved from destruction,,,,,
# ,, actually, that makes a good reason to send kevin07 (-:
Oh well, it could have been worse, tony abbott might have wanted the job and we all know the loony right would have demanded his nomination 😮
The Other People Opposed To Kevin Rudd’s UN Bid
https://newmatilda.com/2016/07/29/the-other-people-opposed-to-kevin-rudds-un-bid/
(Presumably, a member nation providing a UNSG (candidate) might be expected to have its international obligations house in exemplary order; does Australia? Would that sort of calculus, perhaps, have some slight bearing on domestic decision-making, and, also, implications for a(n ir)responsible Government?)
(Look closer dummy. A brexit-like UNexit might be the strategy of loud`n proud operators of gulags off-shore and on.)
“Don’t criticise it until you’ve been there! Just giving you a heads up, Tom R.”
Funny.
AO,,,,,,it could have been worse, tony abbott might have wanted the job,,,,
# ,, can`t happen armchair, rabbit would have to quit his seat, even the zombies know they can`t afford a by-election or/and seat-loss
(# ,, can`t happen
I don’t know, “In my judgment you have neither the interpersonal skills or the temperament to be a UN secretary-general”, might cut both ways.
Otherwise…
Bishop put a powerful case for Rudd’s nomination. She shot down the arguments of those ministers who had claimed Rudd was not qualified for the UN job. She quoted a submission from the new head of the foreign affairs department, Frances Adamson, supporting the nomination of Rudd. And she pointed out that the government should be concerned about the current favourite, Antonio Guterres, because he has been a strong critic of Australia’s asylum seeker policies as UN High Commissioner for Refugees.)
(Powerful case`s, shot down arguments, and submission`s from new head`s delivered with death-stares to a prime-meddler under total zombie control, can only be ignored when self-preservation of prime-meddler`s position is always on the table. Beyond spite, convincing zombies of accepting as a `national-symbol` one so deeply and publicly `cruelled` by his own, is a step too far for zombies.)
(When pinkists crept thru the night to UNgough the gough-like07 at the start of the season,
http://www.abc.net.au/news/programs/killing-season/
the pinkists UNwittingly created UNsuitable leaders at home, yaay.blib, and permanent records and scripts to ensure that the UNgoughed and others remain high risk and UNsuitable UNywhere.)
(Still, perhaps, reported time dilations and dilatory tactics within and without the Golden Triangle do seem a little intriguing…
The UN Security Council will consider nominated candidates from next month, before taking a resolution for the role to the General Assembly.
The five Security Council permanent member nations – including the United States, United Kingdom, Russia, China and France – can veto any nominee for the job.
A secret ballot will take place, before the next secretary-general is due to take office on January 1.)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BIekRTfA4BO/
(the pinkists UNwittingly created UNsuitable leaders at home, yaay.blib, and permanent records and scripts to ensure that the UNgoughed and others remain high risk and UNsuitable UNywhere
Indeed; there may or may not be more or less than something or nothing in a Grand disUNification Theoretic.)
It’s not easy being Green…
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jul/29/greens-acrimony-bob-brown-unloads-on-lee-rhiannon-and-nsw-party?CMP=soc_567
Release the hounds
https://www.themonthly.com.au/blog/mungo-maccallum/2016/18/2016/1468811595/release-hounds
Tony, that is not Baloney.
That is really very good (imo), you’re really hitting your stride I’d say.
Inspirational stuff.
(The `antonio` option looks good, an UNhappy option for proud gulag owners maybe, tho much happier for those UNboated.)
Thanks Tom R. Flattery will get you everywhere. 😉
Flattery will get you everywhere
That’s what I’m counting on 😉
Although, seriously, I assumed it was another random painting you’d put up, until I looked at the source and followed it.
Not that I am an artistic intellectual or anything, I just like what I like. And I liked.
Thanks Tom R. Flattery will get you everywhere.
Wow! Did you do that yourself tony?
Like tomR, I thought it was ‘just’ a painting that you posted. I glanced over it and thought that the light was painted and captured really well [I’ve read that it is hard to do] and wondered what that brownish blob near the people sitting on the beach was.
It looks like the work of a professional artist. You deserve to be very proud.
” what that brownish blob”
Me at the beach, just before the greenies roll me back in
Thanks AO. Feedback much appreciated. 🙂
😝 😱
Yes. Outstanding!
… not only that but it’s prompted Tom R to admit he is ignorant . A work of art in itself!
I suppose I should say I thought it was quite good too.
… not only that but it’s prompted Tom R to admit he is ignorant .
yomm yomm yomm, you trooly have issues with your chosen language, don’t you.
Unless you consider everyone who is not an art critic to be ignorant?
Is that what you really mean?
Can’t unsee…
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