Turnbull: Won by One

Yep, it’s all our fault!

The emergence of the report comes as IS released the latest edition of its propaganda magazine Dabiq. The terror group takes aim at liberals and nonbelievers before detailing why militants should attack western targets.
The editorial ‘Why We Hate You & Why We Fight You’ not only mocks the idea that Islam is a peaceful religion and those who refuse to call the group Islamic because it’s “politically incorrect”.
It begins by talking about the “blessed attack on a sodomite nightclub and how it was indeed a hate crime because Muslims hate liberalist sodomites”.
“We hate you, first and foremost, because you are disbelievers”, the editorial reads.
“It is for this reason that we were commanded to openly declare our hatred for you and our enmity towards you.”
It then goes on to list the other five reasons IS hates the west which include;
* Secularists: Because their liberal societies permit things that Islam has prohibited
* Atheists: Because they disbelieve in the “existence of your Lord and Creator”
* The west: For committing crimes committing crimes against Islam and for “transgressions against our religion”
* Western forces: For crimes against Muslims directly with people killed by fighter jets and drones
* Finally, the entire west for invading Muslim lands and territory
The editorial concludes the hatred will continue until the entire West embraces Islam.

http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/isis-why-we-hate-you-magazine-details-six-reasons-for-war-on-liberalist-sodomites/news-story/c512bf5c5407f97aef3ad19e7dfd27a4

Does this mean that yomm and sb don’t blame malcayman for the perpetual stuff ups. It’s because of ISIS?

And it would have been in approximately the same situation if Bull Shittin had lied his way to power.

So, does that mean that you are glad Blob Shiftin DIDN’T lie, or wish he had?

So Yom and Arsehole agree with Pauline Hanson?

I’d always had my suspicions. Especially yomm, whose obviously held a flame for redheads for a while now.

I object to Bill Leak racially stereotyping all indigenous people as bullying policemen.

I saw a lot of comments on twitter this arbo along those lines Tony

“Why isn’t the policeman considered racist, or the little boy”

Not sure why they assumed it was the dad that it was being considered racist against, hey 😯 (DOH)

blindingly stupid these anti-racist racists.

I cannot wait for theirabc to interview the professional racist blot to get his racist opinion about why it isn’t racist to be a racist.

So what is your opinion of the Leak cartoon Tom R?

bill leaks a racist fuckwit

Good argument. Very convincing.

To be fair tosy, you asked for my opinion, not an argument

#just saying.

Although, if I need to explain to you why drawing a black man in a manner to represent that his childs problems stem from the fathers assumed indifference alone then no amount of argument could convince you anyway.

Charlie Hebdo is a racist fuckwit !

Or perhaps this is a better view of Bill Leaks cartoon ?

“Sometimes the truth hurts”

We need a Royal Commision into indigenous parenting

“Sometimes the truth hurts”

You mean like bill the fuckwit zeroes in on a caricature of an Aboriginal father who doesn’t know his sons name, but (repeatedly) ignores both

a) The Don Dale atrocities that brought this back to our attention.

b) The system, that bred the Don Dale center, and which these ‘alleged’ fathers grew up in.

But not to a racist like leak. Na, let’s focus on the minority that is easiest to bash, not the systems around them that keep them as a minority that is easy to bash.

I can see, should he survive that long, the child from Don Dale being vilified in the same manner twenty years from now, and poor innocent leak asking “why are they like this? it must be their culture!”

In fact perhaps the onus is on others to explain why it “isn’t racism” .

Why do I get the feeling we are about to be lectured on ‘free speech’ again?

“In fact perhaps the onus is on others to explain why it “isn’t racism” .”

Perhaps then you should ponder who in that cartoon has actually “made a go of things” in his life as a direct contrast to the one that hasn’t.

What skin colour is the cop ?

I note it fails to register with you that Bill Leak could have depicted a white cop. He chose not to introduce a powerful message into his cartoon.

Hillarious………………a link to John Pilger.

ROFLMAO

Hillarious………………a link to John Pilger.

So, this is what wally finds amusing. It’s no wonder you get oyur jollies with the likes of leak.

Andrew Bolt, columnist on Murdoch’s Melbourne Herald-Sun tabloid, is currently the defendant in a racial vilification case brought by nine prominent Aborigines, including Larissa Behrendt, a professor of law and indigenous studies in Sydney. Behrendt has been an authoritative and outspoken opponent of Howard’s 2007 “emergency intervention” in the Northern Territory, which the Labor government of Julia Gillard has reinforced. The rationale to “intervene” was that child abuse among Aborigines was in “unthinkable numbers”. This was a fraud. Out of 7,433 Aboriginal children examined by doctors, four possible cases were identified – about the rate of child abuse in white Australia. What this covered was an old-fashioned colonial grab of mineral-rich land in the Northern Territory where Aboriginal land rights were granted in 1976.

What was the name of the tosser who pushed that fraud? Why is he no longer in parliament?

(*Anthony Dillon is a postdoctoral fellow at the Australian Catholic University.)

(*Anthony Dillon is a postdoctoral fellow at the Australian Catholic University.)

So the Left lurches to its racist “Uncle Tom” mode when their heads collectively explode in horror

http://s535.photobucket.com/user/madcat1974/media/uncle-Tom-1.jpg.html

“And they are too dumb to write their own protest letters, apparently.”

The coffee shops of inner Sydney will be filled to the brim with fuckhead Lefties gnashing their teeth all weekend.

Great time to grab their cash if you are a RWDB barista

‘Leak was referring to the havoc that alcohol abuse and irresponsible parenting are having on many Aboriginal children today …

and

So, Amanda, in answer to your question, I was trying to say that if you think things are pretty crook for the children locked up in the Northern Territory’s Don Dale Youth Detention Centre, you should have a look at the homes they came from.
Then you might understand why so many of them finished up there.

What amazes me is leaks inate ability to completely ignore the documented cases of abuse happening at the Don Dale Youth Detention Centre, skip directly to assuming that this is directly a result of the Aboriginal fathers (except, of course, not all were Aboriginal, many were simply from lower socio economic backgrounds. Is there something to that perhaps?). He then applies the brakes there, and doesn’t bother once to examine the reasons that, if true, why are the fathers like this?

“does anybody else believe this comment by Pilger?”
Not really.

I’ll pull a yomm, and ask you to show just where Pilger is shown to be wrong. Quote the relevant section.

“and ask you to show just where Pilger is shown to be wrong. ”

So where did he get his figures from ?

and ask you to show just where Pilger is shown to be wrong.

Tony answered that question

https://theguttertrash.com/2016/08/04/turnbull-won-by-one/#comment-131271

One Nation senator-elect Malcolm Roberts wrote bizarre ‘sovereign citizen’ letter to Julia Gillard

well done malcayman. What an ‘agile’ and ‘innovative’ election that was lol

Actually nil, I have a better idea, YOU provide the section that disproves Pilgers claims?

You reckon Tony is onto something, so it should be easy.

John Pilger got his figures from

As it says, from very hard to find (and pssoibly deleted now) government resources.

If you want to call bullshit, do it, but with evidence.

I did find this

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjXmoCuq6nOAhXD64MKHbmsAQsQFgg7MAY&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aihw.gov.au%2FWorkArea%2FDownloadAsset.aspx%3Fid%3D60129542752&usg=AFQjCNF6AGYbTh-feXGRvO2kH5P4ZVlKkw&bvm=bv.129391328,d.amc

The reasons for the over-representation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children in
child protection substantiations are complex. The legacy of past policies of forced removal,
intergenerational effects of previous separations from family and culture, lower
socioeconomic status and perceptions arising from cultural differences in child-rearing
practices are all underlying causes for their over-representation in the child welfare system

There is also a chart on page 18 (29 in a pdf reader) that shows the cases of sexual abuse is actually lower as a percentage in Indigenous children

Not sure if that link will work. But that corresponds with Pilgers claims. Unlike Tony’s links, which led to ….. still waiting on someone to highlight the relevant section?

He may be having an off day today

So perhaps you can point to the part/s of Tonys link that supports his assertion.

Or show some data that disproves the data I put up that confirms his assertion?

Shouldn’t be too hard, even on an off day 😉

“in need of protection” under state or territory law was found to be true.

And there is the kicker “in need of protection” and “under state or territory law”

Yet when medically examined, only 4 were found to be actually abused. THAT was what Pilger claimed. And, as yet, has not been proven false.

And it aligns with the Child Protection report of 2011-12 I linked to.

And, from your quote

they do show a consistent pattern of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children being substantially over-represented in every area of the child protection system

And this is was explained in my comment above from that report. It does not mean more were abused, just that more ended up away from their families.

What was that apology for the Stolen Generation over again?

Government interference into private lives.

By the champions of small Government.

For the time being, unless you can find those elusive “barely reported government statistics” he refers to, then we can return to Pilger.

Just to be a bit pedantic, but the figures from the report I linked to corroborated his, so, unless you find something else, I think we can safely assume he has been proven correct.

In the meantime I think we have established that there is an over-representation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children in all areas of abuse.

Interesting, because the report I linked to by the Government in 2011-12 disagrees.

That is not to say that there is not an over representation of Aboriginal children being removed from their families, (ergo, their fathers), there quite obviously is, but the report also highlighted the reasons.

Just to remind you

The reasons for the over-representation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children in
child protection substantiations are complex. The legacy of past policies of forced removal,
intergenerational effects of previous separations from family and culture, lower
socioeconomic status and perceptions arising from cultural differences in child-rearing
practices are all underlying causes for their over-representation in the child welfare system

Yes Bill Leak concentrated on neglect.

And that is ALL he concentrates on. Go through his other scribbles. It is ALWAYS the ‘neglect’ BY the Aboriginal people he concentrates on, not the neglect TO the Aboriginal people. You might even get the impression he does not think this exists.

You got stats on that one?

Watch Four Corners. And keep up!

Ppl are no longer talking about the abuse inflicted on the kids in custody, now it’s all the parents’ fault.

BINGO!

They all acknowledge there are big problems, but none have been able to solve them.

Obviously, drawing a gratuitous cartoon re-enforcing a racist stereotype, and bravely sidestepping any responsibility from any other directions, is the way to achieve this.

So, just because the Sexual column is ‘only’ 9% of the total, does not prove Pilger’s claim that only 4 cases had been proven.

Of course it is not equal to, they are done years apart.

But the resultant determination that Indigenous children are no more likely to be abused as are white children is proven. Which was Pilgers claim.

The fact remains, Indigenous children are eight times more likely than non-Indigenous children to be victims of abuse of all kinds.

I think you mean they are eight more times more likely to be separated, but this also includes for neglect, for which Aboriginal children were of a higher percentage, but this would be quite obviously for financial reasons.

It’s an actual problem

No shit.

Of course, locking up these kids and abusing them should be swept under the carpet, lets focus on the fathers who themselves were quite probably forcibly removed from their parents at a young age, instead of focusing on the policies that perpetuate this behavior.

Seriously, why do I bother, for all the gratitude I get.

And thanks for all the fish Tony 😉

Anyone who has superannuation is part of the “investment class”.

I guess that completely eludes him.

I have not been following the comments too closely but how come all this child abuse stuff only comes out when the Coalition is in power?

One possibility is that child abuse only occurs when the Coalition is in power.

The other possibility is that nobody and especially the ABC cares until the Coalition is elected.

I don’t know why you like that phrase. It’s meaningless.

Here’s a hint 😉

Guess who first lady Lucy Turnbull was having coffee with at exactly the same time her husband, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, joined his Treasurer Scott Morrison to announce a tough new “accountability” measure for the big four banks?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/margin-call/spilling-the-beans-on-coffee-club/news-story/3598b22fba0328b78c93d31646ba336f?nk=d6d4e67c33b6496b67a6bd776df93528-1470400221

(psst wally, don’t take things so literally, it doesn’t suit you)

Oh dear …

Was that for nil?

Why? Do you disagree that one abused child is too many?

TB

How much child abuse happened from 2008-2013? There were 50,000 boat people locked up by the govt you voted for. 8,469 children were locked up by Rudd/Gillard and the people who voted for them.

Lefties only get out of bed when the Coalition is in power.

And the original issue is slowly drowned …

No, as Tony pointed out, the fact that Aboriginal fathers abandon their children at a rate of 8 times that white fathers do is still On The Table!!

Or something like that?

Go Danny!

Daniel Andrews’ contentious deal with the militant firefighters’ union could end up costing taxpayers nearly $700 million, with leaked documents suggesting the Premier may have misled Parliament – and the public – about the true price of the agreement.
Victoria’s financial watchdog will be called to investigate, after Fairfax Media obtained figures estimating that the cost of the industrial deal could be in the order of at least $663 million – dramatically higher than the $160 million figure previously cited by Mr Andrews, Treasurer Tim Pallas and Emergency Services Minister James Merlino.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/firefighter-union-deal-could-cost-almost-700-million-leaked-documents-20160806-gqmmli.html

That’s not a relavant analogy … except can you imagine the chaos in the army if soldiers were unionised and the officers had to consult and agree with the union about operational decisions!

That’s the CFA situation and it’s a long way from the clear lines of command and confrol the RC recommended

(Queue TB to chime in that this would improve decisions)

YEAH! TB!

FMD.. . if you live 200 km from the nearest fire station with paid firefighters who do you think is going to attend the fire in the bush that’s threatening your house?

Are you for real?

Why he hates our freedom? Why haven’t people of his religion condemned his actions?

As the “investment class” sit back and pat each other on the back for a job well done.

Yep, good managers know when to consult and when to make decisions. That’s the military model and apples to most organisations.

Imagine the army with unionised soldiers and an EBA that required officers to consult and agree, with disagreements going to FWA!

Yep, that would really provide unambiguous command and control!

By the way…

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/9/9a/Dumbad.gif/revision/20070617171944

Blame them.

So, they handed you a shovel. It doesn’t mean you had to keep digging.

Not the local Firestone Fops!

I’d tread warily disparaging the volunteers TB, they do a fantastic job. As I’ve worked out, it isn’t the actual volunteers who are stirring this pot, although many had initially been sucked in by the fear mongering. It’s the chiefs in their little fiefdoms worried about their cushy little thrones being under threat from accountability.

The likes of yomm etal are only concerned with the union bashing angle, as is his M.O.

analingus: common term to describe splatarse Speak

Premier Daniel Andrews has dismissed claims his wage deal with the firefighters union could cost almost $700 million, claiming it is based on old information, politically motivated and wrong.

In further comments aimed at the beleaguered public agency, Mr Andrews on Sunday suggested the estimate was politically motivated, out of date, and based on incorrect assumptions.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/andrews-dismisses-claims-cfa-pay-deal-could-cost-700-million-as-wrong-20160807-gqmtmw.html

Yea, perhaps yomms been whispering in their ears ‘veto, veto, veto’ 🙂

deliberate decision to sacrifice volunteerism for union power

You’ll have to point out where that has happened, except if you mean that volunteers rushing into harms way are going to be required to be prepared to rush into harms way?

I understand that the current push is for LESS ‘red’ tape, but, with asbestos now rushing into our country on the back of this LESS ‘red’ tape, is that really a better outcome?

or something
or something

on the grounds he isn’t an Australian citizen?

On the grounds that he has dual citizen ship, which we know he did, but which has never been shown that he hasn’t revoked his British one.

If you think THAT is birther crap, then it could be legitimately claimed that you yourself are a Birther.

Unless you can supply the information he has refused, to date (even after holding the highest position in the land) to show.

Just because others ask stupid questions, doesn’t mean that legitimate ones can’t be asked.

Or do you not care about the requirements to be a parliamentarian?

Is splatteredanalingus getting more shrill, or is it just me?

You’ve always been shrill.

Be that the case or not, I note you didn’t address the actual question.

Again 😉

I did answer the question
……….
You see, I have learned something from you. Are you going to give me a gold star for mastering this aspect of trolldom?

Unhingement Gold Medal lol

And both are accused of being dual citizens of Australia and another country, while serving in the Australian Parliament

Except, only one can legally be (and we know, WAS) a dual citizen.

The other cannot be, under Australian citizenship laws. Therfore, HE CANNOT be a dual citizen.

So, now we KNOW that Sam Dastyari is not a dual citizen, what about yabot?

bricks or planks

I’ll go with BRICKS!

But he’s a Muslin innit….?

Well, a wannabe Muslim, or sumfink like that

So Dastyari know Iran cancelled his citizenship?

YEAH! DASTYARI MUST PROVE HE ISN’T A CITIZEN OF A FOREIGN POWER!!

San Dastyari doesn’t have to renounce it, because, Australia doesn’t recognise it as a dual citizenship (probably because of the intransigence of the Iranian Government)

Unlike abbott, who we have an agreement on dual citizenships with in the form of Britain

As your quote mentioned

Australian governments have however had no power to affect citizenship laws, or their administration, in other countries. Australian governments have not, in particular, had the power to require immigrants from countries that do not allow it (such as Greece) to divest themselves of former citizenships when taking out Australian citizenship.

So Sam Dastyari doesn’t have to renounce it, as he cannot, but, as it highlighted earlier, we do not recognise it as dual citizenship, because of the manner in which Iran behaves. yabot has no such excuse.

That’s not true TB, you, me and everyone else form opinions about the character of people, whether or not the police have investigated, charged or successfully prosecuted

Wow, that was a surprisingly self aware comment yomm.

and presented his views as facts, ACMA believed his use of overblown language would have made the ordinary person realise he was only giving an opinion

So, acma tell the punters not to believe anything from the source they are supposed to be regulating., simply because of ‘overblown language’

Speaks volumes

And puts into doubt everything I ever heard from Professor Julius Sumner Miller

Fucken overblown bullshit artist he must have been!

Sorry acma, but when a dickhead tells us it’s a fact, then the punter should take that at face value, irrespective of the ‘overblown’ language used.

But now, we must just assume that everything we see and hear on your mediums is just plain bullshit, just presented as ‘fact’

Which is worrying, because, should I even believe the story that told us that?

Fuck you, TB Queensland. You are a bitter, nasty

Something about that seems incongruous. I just can’t put my finger on it 😉

Lolyomm

Even on this thread alone Thomson was equivilated (?) with a person who had a criminal conviction.

Meanwhile splatalingus said ‘drone drone drone ‘

On this issue there is a sharp distinction between those on the left side of things who called out Craig as unfit to enjoy the confidence of the government (like the blogmaster) and those rusted on arse-lickers who kept muttering about the presumption of innocence as though that was the relevant question.

Exactly, that’s the point, not whether there was a successful criminal prosecution.

“Maybe I should have gone to a wifi hotspot to fill it out.”

Yeah then some smart Nigerian sitting in a dark room 15,000kms away could have hacked your bank account and drained it.

who called out Craig as unfit to enjoy the confidence of the government

And others who went quite a bit further than that.

To me, the census is so unthreatening that I went back, put down my real name, ticked the declaration, and signed off.

Which is for the best to Tony, as lying about your name would bring the same (potential) fine/s as not filling it in so I have heard.
Me, I’ve folded, since everything is already so out there already, there’s really just nothing left to ‘hide’
I’m just debating if I put “radical mushroom” for religion or not?

Url’s probably not the right term, but Tom will know what I mean. An identifying number thingy.

IP is what you are looking for Tony, and, although you could use a VPN, it’s kinda redundant, as the code they give you tells them the address anyway.

And others who went quite a bit further than that.

Was that Patricia of WA?

(Yes, that is so, Splatterbottom of Tarsus. The Holy Roman Umpire has an astoundingly long, much-storied, and too-little-recognised historical role in railing against unChristian injustices visited upon so-called sodomites (a surprisingly extensive term, when in intensive, catholic use) for their imagined intrinsic evil, propensity for crimen pessimum, and aptness for imposition of penitence unto God’s preordained standard. Why, even the contemporary Catholic Church, today, considers its Mission, particularly in Christianised Africa, Asia, and the Americas, is to ameliorate the plights of the still- and increasingly-criminalised, unto death in some temporalities, by promoting respect for the dignity of persons, especially those who are deemed inherently disordered and are to have no place in the Kingdom of God.

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How Uber Kapitalism is destroying the world

“Yep, all good here.”)

“Yep, all good here.”)

Did anybody consider the fact that perhaps they are just “Exiles”?

no nations, no borders

Why do lefties want One World Govt?

Is it because we only have one World?

Well at least you admit it. Some Conservatives think AGW is a trojan horse to bring about one world govt.

Some Conservatives think

LINK! 🙂

” “some conservatives think” LOL!” 😉

That would definitely make the world a better place.

Lead from the front splatts 🙂

In fact, Section 18D gives those who want to push the envelope on matters of race, religion and ethnicity a range of exemptions….

And bolt failed them all lol.

Even taking into account his ‘hyperbole’ 😉

In a nutshell: “Guess which side of the political spectrum the author identifies with.” so you can ignore their arguments.

A game the whole political spectrum can play

Masturbation is like that

Sounds like the voice of experience to me 😉

anyone can muster basic insults …

It’s all so dismissive!

Speaking of dismissive, I note nobody cared about yer link earlier TB

It can cost more to fire up gas in a home here — about 65 per cent more — than in a Japanese residence that uses Australian gas, according to a survey by the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/money/costs/aussies-pay-65pc-more-for-our-gas-than-japan/news-story/946a61f218534bdd9e218232a63fcb03

I wonder why that is? The Wind got their tongue perhaps?

Best protest of the year Award goes to:

It was the ALP who opened the camps that lady is talking about. There were only 6 boat people in detention before the ALP abolished the Pacific Solution in 2008.

I’m convinced neel is a LNP bot …

I think that’s a given TB.

The real question we need to know the answer to though is, does the bot sit, or squat?

Now abbott is in the media saying that he should have agreed to it and not been so hyperpartisan.

I cannot believe how reprehensible that is. To basically allow people to continue drowning, to KNOWINGLY stop an attempt at stopping those drowning for PURELY POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY.

And for our media to just look at that statement and go ‘meh, that’s just our abbott, isn’t he entertaining’

He has basically admitted that he was happy to see more people drown, as long as he could continue to blame the Labor party.

I said at the time it was nothing but purely political bastardry. He’s now admitted it.

And our CPG don’t give a rats.

Which is why they/he is allowed to get away with it.

Electricity price spikes caused by energy companies ‘gaming’ the system, report finds

The Wind has been “Dismissed” for now I think ao 😉

I think you mean worse.

YAAAY

sum peeps thinks spelin is most importaint than are brutality.

Speeks volyumes

Perhaps things would have been different altogether if the libs had not destroyed genuine co-operative efforts by all with the expert led and internationally approved malaysian solution.

The Greens voted against it also. And the High Court ruled it invalid so it never would have got off the ground. It was an abomination of a policy that never would have worked. Part of the so-called Malaysian solution was to drag people screaming onto the flight to Malaysia and film the screams and show the world what happens.

I cannot believe how reprehensible that is. To basically allow people to continue drowning

What Abbott said was perhaps govts should be allowed to govern even if the policy sucks.

to KNOWINGLY stop an attempt at stopping those drowning for PURELY POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY.

TomR i have yet to see you apologise for abolishing the Pacific Solution. The drownings continued until Abbott was elected because Labor was too proud to admit they got it wrong.

Ever drowning at sea is the responsibility of those who voted for Rudd in 2007.

That’s pretty much a prerequisite in Hollywood

Schwarzenegger and Eastwood are in furious agreement there!

(to name but two inconsequentials) 😉

What did Abbott actually say?

WTTE that if they weren’t playing such base partisan politics, then they would have voted with the Government of the day

By the way the ALP blocked Hockeys first budget

They blocked them on policy grounds.

The libs don’t have an issue with pushing people back to see, or dumping them on any hell hole. What policy reason can they have for their refusal for Malaysia?

(The ALP never admitted they were wrong, they never went back to what worked under Howard but spent all their time trying things rather than what worked before.

True; it was very, very wrong of the ALP to pursue John *swoon* Howard’s Bali Process; and very right of Abbott to trash Howard’s near-forgotten legacy in architecting it; and very, very right of Abbott to frustrate any Australian leadership attempt at progressing a more-comprehensive, more-enduring regional solution to an otherwise-(under?)acknowledged broader problem of a globe and a region awash with unsettled and unsettling refugees; just so he could be in a more advantageous position to reresurrect a notoriously successful Pacific Solution of Anywhere-But-Here and Guano Island as his real-time contribution to more-Jakarta-than-Geneva diplomacies; and, now, here we are, with Abbott waxing revisionary about his waned fortunes and utterly inoffensive conduct from the backbench; beginning with his (un)capitulation on amending s.18C, on the premise that the best defence of Team Abbott is to be had in an eternal return to scapegoating others for one’s own persecution complex, and in giving a good offence to nominal internal and external frenemies of a crumbling Broad Church.)

I take that as saying elected govts should be allowed to govern no matter how bad their policies are.

Concentrate on the “hyper-partisanship” section, and reflect on where and when that kind of politicking started, and more importantly, by whom.

Concentrate on the “hyper-partisanship” section, and reflect on where and when that kind of politicking started, and more importantly, by whom.

Too funny. I do not recall the ALP giving much support to the Howard govt. Remember the GST and rollback?

Even scum morrison doesn’t want to be reminded of how petty and spiteful politics was when they were in opposition.

Scott Morrison has blamed Tony Abbott for the now infamous decision to block attempts by the previous Labor government to stop people smuggling, saying he was just following orders.

http://www.afr.com/news/politics/scott-morrison-hangs-tony-abbott-out-to-dry-over-over-malaysia-plan-20160817-gqv702

Tom R – you started it!!!

NOS – No. You did!!

Tom R – did not!

Etc

Lol that huh was meant for tosy, but works well with yomms too

It also appears that yomm doesn’t care that the libs were happy for deaths to continue at sea for purely political purposes

There’s a difference between opposing viewpoints, and what abbott did

What? Abbott thought the Malaysian would not have worked. And he was right. We give them 800 and they give us 4,000. What happens when the next 800 turn up? Well we get another 4,000.

What Abbott did say is perhaps they should let the govt govern rather than oppose bad policy. You have twisted his words to say something different.

(Colourless, odourless, tasteless, weightless, trace ideas plainly wright themselves.

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You have twisted his words to say something different.

I am so very, very sorry.

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I find it amazing that anyone would be critical of…

Yeah, under the 3-Ts doctrine of charitability, palming off a fiver abundantly illustrated that time, treasure, and thought can all make a real difference.)