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Casual Racism, it’s back!

September 20, 2016
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The following article is by Alex McKinnon and first appeared at SBS…

If you have trouble understanding why British Colonial Co is offensive, remember the response when a tragic moment of white history was commodified.

Much like a cold sore, Australia’s long-running tendency to treat other people’s cultures like bin liners is acting up again.

Yesterday the internet cottoned on to the existence of British Colonial Co., a Brisbane bar and restaurant taking the heyday of the British Empire as its thematic cue. Inspired by “the stylish days of the empirical (sic) push into the developing cultures of the world”, on its website British Colonial Co. promises “a refined and modern dining experience with the adventure of east meets west in a plantation style, club setting”.

For those not up on the finer points of Britain’s imperial history, looking back with fondness at the ‘glory’ days of Empire is about on par with having nostalgic pangs for the pre-Civil War South, or sighing wistfully for the bygone times when you could chase Aboriginal people over cliffs or give them food laced with strychnine for fun and get away with it.

Exactly what’s meant by a “plantation style setting” is unclear, but presumably getting a coffee at the bar doesn’t involve press-ganging countless thousands of Sri Lankan, Indian and Burmese people into slavery to grow the beans.

Eating establishments and parties with racially questionable themes have become a domestic genre lately. In February, Melbourne eatery FAT Fried and Tasty came under fire from comedian Aamer Rahman for its murals incorporating racist iconography of black people, including one depicting rap icon Biggie Smalls holding a drumstick of fried chicken.

In 2012, the University of Sydney’s St Paul’s College threw a shindig themed around the British Raj (the Empire’s regime in India that subjugated the local population for almost 100 years), complete with “largely sub-continental wait staff” serving the mostly white, overwhelmingly wealthy crowd of revellers.

Every time one of these controversies raises its head, a counter-argument immediately springs up that goes something like this: no one meant anything malicious or mean-spirited by it, people are too sensitive about what’s clearly just meant to be a bit of harmless fun, and it’s yet another sign that political correctness is devouring our rights to free speech and expression.

People take sides, furiously agree with each other, belittle anyone who says anything different, and quietly seethe until something similar inevitably happens again.

But instead of going round in circles like these debates usually do, it’s worth using this latest debate to try and see things from a different perspective.

Happily, we can do that pretty easily: by looking at times where a tragic piece of white Australian history was commodified, seeing how society at large reacted, and asking ourselves why.

Last year, Woolworths tried to piggyback off the 100th anniversary of the ANZAC landings at Gallipoli with the toweringly misguided ‘Fresh in our Memories’ campaign.

WOOLWORTHS ANZAC COMMEMORATION WEBSITE

Understandably, people were rather upset at seeing the Woolies logo slapped over photos of dead soldiers, but the usual claims of hyper-sensitivity and political correctness gone mad were nowhere to be heard.

The same thing happened back in 2002, when a proposal to christen the Australian national athletics squad the ‘Diggers’ prompted a public outcry and the idea’s swift booting.

A governmental report released shortly after noted that “the use of the word Diggers in relation to a sports team was not accepted by the Australian community because the use of the word, in association with sport, served to dilute or trivialise the horrendous sacrifice and loss suffered by Australian and New Zealand Defence Force personnel in the first and second world wars”.

That consideration is largely why terms like ‘ANZAC’ are prohibited by law for commercial use — and yet that ban attracts no criticism as an example of political correctness run amok.

The reasons Australians get so het up about the ANZAC legacy being misused are largely the same reasons people are angry at British Colonial Co., and why things like wearing blackface to a party or climbing Uluru evoke extremely passionate responses — because trivialising suffering for frivolous reasons like making money or having a laugh is a fairly awful thing to do.

The only difference between the former example and the latter ones is that most white Australians don’t have to think about the horrific legacy of racism very much, because we are overwhelmingly beneficiaries of it.

That’s why a bar evoking British colonialism means very different things to different people. For white Australians, it means fancy clothes, funny accents and elegant cocktails.

It’s fairly unlikely that the millions of African, Asian, native American and Middle Eastern people that suffered under British occupation would have such rosy memories of the Empire’s “push into developing cultures” — or that the tens of thousands of Aboriginal and Pacific Islander people who were coerced into unpaid labour in Queensland’s immense sugar cane plantations throughout the 1800s would be overjoyed that a place making light of their enslavement is doing trade in downtown Brisbane.

For their part, British Colonial Co. have released a statement saying they are “upset and saddened by today’s media reports that our brand is causing offence and distress to some members of the community. This certainly was not our intention.”

Good to know. If they’re serious about that, though, they might want to consider a rebrand.

Alex McKinnon is a journalist based in Sydney. Most recently he served as political and opinion editor of pop-culture website Junkee and editor of the Star Observer, Australia’s longest-running LGBTI newspaper.

 

 

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189 Comments leave one →
  1. September 21, 2016 6:04 am

    Hopefully no Gutter Trash readers have ever enjoyed endured a Singapore Sling at Raffles Hotel, what with its ‘classic colonial architecture’ and ‘liveried Sikh doormen’.

    Because that would be casually racist, surely.

  2. Walrus permalink
    September 21, 2016 9:49 am

    Outrage of the Day !

    I was at Raffles last year. I didn’t see and Sikh doormen

  3. Walrus permalink
    September 21, 2016 9:59 am

    I’m outraged at “whiteface” too

  4. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 21, 2016 10:14 am

    I just noticed that TGT has passed the million!

    Congratulations reb! And everyone else that makes this place of fun!

  5. TB Queensland permalink
    September 21, 2016 10:24 am

    HEY! HEY!

    CONGRATULATIONS SREB!

    AND ALL HANDS!

    PIPE THE VICTORY!

  6. Walrus permalink
    September 21, 2016 10:26 am

    “We asked the Blacktown Aboriginal community and discovered the situation was quite the reverse – they are proud to live in Blacktown,” Cr Bali said.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-02/blacktown-council-votes-not-to-change-its-name/7215646

  7. TB Queensland permalink
    September 21, 2016 10:30 am

    The real problem with people and the issues raised here, is that most don’t think past their fkn noses … stomachs?

  8. September 21, 2016 12:20 pm

    If you say so.

  9. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 21, 2016 1:19 pm

    This is where identity group politics gets us – Political bukkake: the sneering horde of SJW’s frothing and frottaging around the kneeling accused as their pious ejaculations bear their sins away. Until the next time when an even more excuse for this ritualised wankery is invented.

    The very existence of middle-class whites is a provocation. Alex McKinnon ought to provide moral leadership and top himself immediately.

    But then I read Alex’s website and found this gem:

    Some Melbourne Cafe Is Serving A “Blue Algae Latte”, Proving That Melbourne Can Fuck Right Off

    Anyone as clear-thinking as that is not beyond redemption!

  10. September 21, 2016 2:10 pm

    Yes. Alex is clearly well versed in decor-as-racialism as well as being expert in acceptable coffee colours and ingredients.

    What a fuckwit.

  11. September 21, 2016 2:13 pm

    I actually agree with ToSY to some extent.

    Although I haven’t had a Singapore Sling at Raffles, I have wandered inside to admire the surroundings. I wouldn’t have really considered myself racist to have eaten there.

    Similarly I’ve been a few times to the Rangoon Racket Club in Crows Nest and never really been plagued with guilt afterwards.

    Does admiring a particular type of interior design make one racist?

  12. September 21, 2016 2:15 pm

    Besides everyone knows that the Nazis had the best looking uniforms in the war. I don’t think that necessarily means one is a Nazi sympathiser…

  13. September 21, 2016 2:16 pm

    BTW, thanks for the congrats. It’s usually about the one million mark I decide to close the place down.

    We live in precarious times.

  14. September 21, 2016 2:18 pm

    And another thing.

    I think racism generally only raises its ugly head when times are economically though.

    Cue the rise of Islamaphobia both here, and in the US and Europe..

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/half-of-all-australians-want-to-ban-muslim-immigration-poll-20160920-grkufa.html

  15. September 21, 2016 2:22 pm

    Don’t know where to get your blue coffee fix?

    You’re welcome.

  16. September 21, 2016 2:25 pm

    “I actually agree with ToSY to some extent.”

    I’d ‘like’ that comment if we had a ‘like’ button.

  17. September 21, 2016 2:27 pm

    Yes, congratulation reb.

    Eleventy bazillion hits is pretty good.

  18. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 21, 2016 2:38 pm

    “Islamophobia” raises its ugly head when Muslims go about slitting people’s throats all over the world and are responsible for over 90% of global terrorism. Marrying and fucking young girls doesn’t do the brand much good either. Most people do worry a bit when blood-thirsty savages are running amok in the community. It is all very well for the Pope to advocate turning the other arse-cheek, but he is old and desperate. Other people are more interested in self-preservation than having an over-sized Bedouin bazooka bunged up their back botty.

  19. September 21, 2016 2:42 pm

    Eloquently put, as always SB….. 😉

  20. September 21, 2016 2:56 pm

    “Besides everyone knows that the Nazis had the best looking uniforms in the war.”

    Well, obviously.

    http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/57d64bfe6795042f2177665328350595?width=1024

  21. September 21, 2016 2:58 pm

    I guess that must be the militant Big Queer army that rectum is always reeling about.

  22. TB Queensland permalink
    September 21, 2016 3:01 pm

    … than having an over-sized Bedouin bazooka bunged up their back botty.

    Interesting closure, sb … and appropriate for the fred I suppose … racism and obverse sexuality all in one …

  23. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 21, 2016 3:48 pm

    Indeed, TB. The big Bedouin bazooka thing can be a jolly lot of fun but also has its downsides. When last in Saudi Arabia I was astounded that a country which had so much petrol had virtually no petroleum jelly!

  24. Neil of Sydney permalink
    September 21, 2016 4:07 pm

    Besides everyone knows that the Nazis had the best looking uniforms in the war.

    The Nazis also built the Autobahns and produced the Volkwagen

  25. September 21, 2016 4:22 pm

    “Another great piece from Helen Razer…”

    I’ll have to take your word for it, reb. Helen’s a bit wordy for my taste.

    (According to Word, she took 3435 of them to make her point. No thank you.)

  26. September 21, 2016 4:34 pm

    She does to go on, but I guess that’s part of her charm.

    I realise that her work may be a bit of struggle for those who are accustomed to 350 word spurts in the Telegraph…

  27. September 21, 2016 4:39 pm

    “I realise that her work may be a bit of struggle for those who are accustomed to 350 word spurts in the Telegraph…”

    Telegraph? Please, I wouldn’t dream of it.

    The Herald Sun is my Rupert of choice.

  28. September 21, 2016 5:05 pm

  29. Walrus permalink
    September 21, 2016 5:10 pm

    “Helen’s a bit wordy for my taste.”

    Anyone referencing Clementine Ford is not worth a portion of my Life

  30. TB Queensland permalink
    September 21, 2016 5:23 pm

    … had so much petrol had virtually no petroleum jelly!

    The buggers are hopeless at flying planes too … four crashes in one day!

    They only go in for reality TV as well … beheadings, hangings, stonings, whipping … a cup of fermented camel milk (or two) and a bag of fried goats balls and its an afternoons entertainment … apparently!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The Nazis also built the Autobahns and produced the Volkwagen

    No?

    The first is absolutely brilliant … and the Liberal Party is so much like them … as for the second … what a bombe out!

    And don’t forget the first jet fighters, rockets and the ubiquitous U BOATS!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’ll have to take your word for it, reb.

    That seems to be the theme for the day … If you say so. … but I can’t help sensing that there was more politeness in the reply to you, sreb?

    New York fears ranked
    1. Pushed into subway tracks
    2. Seamless outage
    3. Have to go to Times Square
    4. Fav dive bar gentrified
    1,563: ISIS

    Source? Link? Or just Septic Tank neohype?

  31. TB Queensland permalink
    September 21, 2016 5:24 pm

    Anyone referencing Clementine Ford is not worth a portion of my Life

    As if! LOL!

  32. September 21, 2016 5:24 pm

    Why say something in 3435 words when you can say it in 350?

    Narcissism?

  33. September 21, 2016 5:30 pm

    “Source? Link? Or just Septic Tank neohype?”

    The link is the tweet. 🙄 (Ask armchair opinionator if you don’t get it.)

  34. September 21, 2016 5:35 pm

    !

  35. TB Queensland permalink
    September 21, 2016 6:33 pm

    The link is the tweet.🙄 (Ask armchair opinionator if you don’t get it.)

    This is a BLOG not a twitter account … and for your info … I generally find the “source” on KL’s comments …

    If I can’t, I ask … as I did with you … I asked you … ’cause its your comment! Not KL’s …

    I don’t tweet and asked for your help … 🙂

  36. September 21, 2016 6:41 pm

    “I don’t tweet and asked for your help …🙂”

    Fair enough. Click on the tweeter’s name. That will take you to their account.

    As for their meaning, ask them.

  37. September 21, 2016 7:45 pm

    “but I can’t help sensing that there was more politeness in the reply to you, sreb?”

    Grow up baby.

  38. TB Queensland permalink
    September 21, 2016 8:07 pm

    Grow up baby.

    Jeesus … ya keep pushing it!

    Even sb will tell ya I’m polite … up to a point!

    And I can’t tell ya how many times I’ve said here that I react … I don’t instigate …

    Happy to comment adult to adult … OK?

    Thanks for the info … I did click on the tweeter’s name but there was no link to the “survey” …

  39. Walrus permalink
    September 21, 2016 10:47 pm

    “And I can’t tell ya how many times I’ve said here that I react … I don’t instigate …”

    You do comedy well

  40. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 22, 2016 9:28 am
  41. TB Queensland permalink
    September 22, 2016 10:01 am

    .

  42. September 22, 2016 10:49 am

    “I did click on the tweeter’s name but there was no link to the “survey” …”

    It’s satire.

  43. Tom R permalink
    September 22, 2016 3:44 pm

    It’s satire.

    I see some of the ‘other side’ are getting the hang of twitter, and embracing it. Better late then never.

    When will ‘teh Left’ finally realise that murdoch is just satire too.

    Daily Tele’s dole bludger mea culpa that wasn’t

    The Daily Telegraph has admitted its front page exclusive on two dole bludgers was not true.

    https://www.crikey.com.au/2016/09/21/daily-telegraphs-dole-bludging-kids-not-dole-bludgers/

    Too be honest, most of the country should have realised that the moment they saw the source. It’s kinda like bolt and truthfulness, they really shouldn’t be used in the same sentence.

  44. Neil of Sydney permalink
    September 22, 2016 8:13 pm

    I really liked TB’s last comment. Shows what his brain is like.

  45. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 23, 2016 1:14 am

    yeah, where is the tony abbott dog toy or the ABC program At Home with Tony/Malcolm?

  46. Tom R permalink
    September 23, 2016 11:29 am

    I really liked TB’s last comment. Shows what his brain is like.

    So Full(it)Stops 🙂

  47. Tom R permalink
    September 23, 2016 11:35 am

    So, is cash incompetent or duplicitous (or both)?

    Powerful Senate committee given ‘outdated’ workplace agreement

    A Senate committee tackling the controversial CFA dispute was given an outdated version of the contentious workplace agreement between the union and management.

    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/powerful-senate-committee-given-outdated-workplace-agreement-20160921-grlhvz.html

  48. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 23, 2016 1:12 pm

    Victoria’s Metropolitan Fire Brigade chief officer Peter Rau has resigned because he is “gravely ill”.

    But that didn’t stop that man of compassion Danny Andrews from declining to express confidence in him.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-23/mfb-chief-officer-peter-rau-resigns-over-health-reasons/7870944

  49. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 23, 2016 1:48 pm

    But that didn’t stop that man of compassion Danny Andrews from declining to express confidence in him.

    Could he be gravelly ill and also non-performing? Hasn’t he been on extended leave for quite some time?

    How long would private enterprise have kept him on extended leave for?

    Did daniel andrews say he was “not pure of heart” or something?

  50. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 23, 2016 1:49 pm

    make that gravely, not gravelly

  51. September 23, 2016 1:54 pm

    I prefer gravelly.

  52. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 23, 2016 2:24 pm

    “I really liked TB’s last comment.”

    He was just having his period.

  53. September 23, 2016 2:31 pm

    “He was just having his period.”

    He seems to have come to a full stop.

  54. September 23, 2016 2:33 pm

    “I really liked TB’s last comment.”

    Final, or most recent?

  55. Tom R permalink
    September 23, 2016 3:25 pm

    But that didn’t stop that man of compassion Danny Andrews from declining to express confidence in him.

    Is that your assumption?

    He was just having his period.

    😆

  56. September 24, 2016 4:38 pm

    Nah reb, l don`t find razer much good myself, strikes me as somebody extremely educated and without much in the way of common sense, for example can write lots of tit-4-tat on the `overington` teabag, but doesn`t have the brains to stay away from limited-news in the first place.

    razer,,,the fragmentation of identity politics and to build a true `left`,,,

    # ,, at least she acknowledges there is isn`t a `true-left`, but why would there be when there is no `true-left` party anymore #razer.missed

    # ,, the `fragmentation of identity-politics` phrase seems a little bit bullshit the way razer is referring to it, isn`t `identity-politics` what the abbott-abetz bernardi-monkey-pod engaging in, the gay-bashing over marriage, and paulines asian-now-moosie bashing, phobes being phobes?

    ls the `fragmentation` of the phobes, meaning the prefixes of xeno and homo by razer? To me they`re all ku-klux-teabags.

  57. September 24, 2016 5:24 pm

    The `verbaliza` must be a feminista and getting unhinged over the joolya chew toy. l`m pretty sure they made a couple of others too, kevin07 and john-w l think. They won`t make a show about the rabbit, my abc`s ratings aren`t that good and rabbit doesn`t really offer anything. l could see a show made of a globe trotting talkbull trying to woo businesses to innovate and relocate to his copper-network and having to herd his zombies away from the edge of the cliff. (-:

  58. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 26, 2016 11:12 am

  59. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 27, 2016 12:25 pm

    Apparently Clinton is winning the debate. That’s hardly surprising because the more people see of Trump the more they will realise he’s a complete C**T. And maybe that’s being unfair on other complete C**TS

  60. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 27, 2016 6:13 pm

    And maybe that’s being unfair on other complete C**TS

    no, not unfair at all.

    Besides all the lies, I don’t like trumps effete hand waving/ finger circled pointing and pursed lip insults, I have to turn away, he annoys me.

    I’d like to sigh and say “only in the US” but we have our own ‘trumps’ holding legitimate political power right now – the liberal party hard right [known as ‘the taliban’],the national party, the hanson party, derryn hinch, david lleyonhjelm, bob day

    I might as well hibernate for the next three years, very depressing to think of the quality and the calibre of that lot – self interest, self promotion, sell-offs and snouts in troughs 🙄

  61. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 27, 2016 9:57 pm

    White Privilege, White Australia, One Nation: One agenda
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/white-privilege-white-australia-one-nation-one-agenda,9516

    …THE DEMOGRAPHY of this nation is not reflected in our parliaments, which remain the citadels of “White Privilege”, bastions unleashing vice like assimilation.

    The racists of my generation are the parliamentarians of today.

    They may disguise themselves as “progressives” but they perpetuate racism.

    Those who control the Australia we live in carry on with a hostile denial to the racism, to the oppressor/oppressed dichotomy, to the pain they inflict and exploit. They damn the One Nation Party but they are all as bad as each other…

    Saw you on twitter today TB

  62. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 28, 2016 9:13 am

    I think Clive Palmer was our version of Trump. A rich bully who is used to using bulls**t and bluster to get his way.

    I like the US system of primaries and nomination, how it is open to anyone, but Trump is an absolute disgrace.

  63. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 28, 2016 4:06 pm

    Yes tomM, I like the primaries too, the pollies have to compete with each other to get the job. Our lot could do with some competition, they have sidelined the public and basically force the party’s choice down our throats. They’ve grown fat and lazy in a system where they are coddled and protected and any public engagement is accidental and frightening for them. They spend their time and our money on spinning and refusing to inform us about their political decisions and policies.

  64. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 28, 2016 5:44 pm

    Hoping tomR and toiletboss remain well through the SA storms and power losses. I just heard that power is out until 4:00 am tom.

    I phoned my aunty and cousin who live in adelaide [hallet cove and clovelly park] and the power has just gone off, they’ve got the torches out and planning to drink wine “might as well enjoy it”

  65. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 28, 2016 5:45 pm

    My family thought that the power was out in adelaide only, I just heard on TV that it’s the entire state!

  66. September 28, 2016 5:46 pm

    It’s just as well SA isn’t a State full of serial killers.

  67. Walrus permalink
    September 28, 2016 5:54 pm

    So the sun has stopped shining and the wind is so strong the turbines aint turning.

    Sounds like SA needs some coal base power LOL

    How come the more we reduce our carbon emissions the more severe the storms are LOL

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/state-in-the-dark-south-australias-major-power-outage-20160928-grqmn2.html

  68. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 28, 2016 5:57 pm

    😆

  69. September 28, 2016 6:41 pm

    l enjoyed the hilary-V the-ronald televised spectacle immensely. l am also enjoying the professional talking-head pundits pontificating they thought hilary `won` the spectacle. (-:

  70. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 28, 2016 7:56 pm

    Keep South Australia in the dark

  71. Tom R permalink
    September 28, 2016 9:52 pm

    Someone said the power was out, but I didn’t notice anything different

    I see wally has gone with the stoopid again lol

  72. September 28, 2016 10:17 pm

    This has to be casual racism:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mariamveiszadeh/status/778883826554548225

  73. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 29, 2016 12:00 am

  74. Tom R permalink
    September 29, 2016 6:28 am

    Surely it’s professionally embarrassing for Fairfax staff to put a story under their masthead saying this is from renewables.

    Well, when you think about it, we have so many wind turnbines, they blew the bloody transmission poles over 😉

  75. September 29, 2016 7:25 am

    “”Sounds like SA needs some coal base power LOL””

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  76. Walrus permalink
    September 29, 2016 9:11 am

    “Blaming renewable energy when THIS is the problem ”

    Funny how there is no mention of turning off the Wind Turbines LOL

  77. September 29, 2016 9:52 am

    Funny how you always put ‘lol’ at the end of your comments as if it adds a sort of supercilious righteousness… lol.

  78. September 29, 2016 10:01 am

    “Funny how there is no mention of turning off the Wind Turbines LOL”

    Or the fact that they rely on other states to provide their back-up electricity, mainly Victoria, and mainly from coal-fired power stations. Yesterday’s blackout appears to have been caused by the interconnector with Victoria being cut off.

    LOL

  79. Walrus permalink
    September 29, 2016 10:15 am

    “Yesterday’s blackout appears to have been caused by the interconnector with Victoria being cut off.”

    The second time this year if I recall correctly.

    But there’s no problem of course…………………move along

  80. Walrus permalink
    September 29, 2016 10:17 am

    It just all comes down to if you want “Green” policies then you gotta learn to live with them.

    Here starts the lesson

    South Australia………………Enjoys yourselves 🙂

  81. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 29, 2016 11:44 am

    If there are a few gas plants scattered around, as there are in Victoria, there is no need to be totally reliant on the interconnector.

  82. Walrus permalink
    September 29, 2016 11:51 am

    As usual TomR misses the point.

    Even if the transmission wires had not come down you still would have no power because they switched the Wind Farms to “OFF”

  83. Tom R permalink
    September 29, 2016 1:32 pm

    Even if the transmission wires had not come down you still would have no power because they switched the Wind Farms to “OFF

    It had nothing to do with wind farms you idiot.

    You recall the last time they blamed wind, it was gas, and their gouging.

    We had no wind then, but we had power, just at ridiculous prices.

    What we had was a major infrastructure breakdown. Even coal needs wires to be transmitted

    The stoopid is strong here today

  84. Walrus permalink
    September 29, 2016 1:42 pm

    “What we had was a major infrastructure breakdown.”

    Yeah……………..you had to switch the Wind Farms to “Off”

  85. Tom R permalink
    September 29, 2016 1:46 pm

  86. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 29, 2016 2:19 pm

    If your only source of reliable base load power is via an interconnector joining the Victorian grid, then you’ll be vulnerable and power supply will be unreliable.

    Any argument about that?

  87. Tom R permalink
    September 29, 2016 3:26 pm

    yomms onboard with the stoopid too.

    Read Weatherills comment in the tweet above dopey

  88. Tom R permalink
    September 29, 2016 3:29 pm

    Can You Spot The Reason South Australia Doesn’t Have Power?

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/bradesposito/its-always-the-wind-even-when-its-not-the-wind?utm_term=.mekR0L4Kr#.igRDrKQwV

  89. Walrus permalink
    September 29, 2016 3:38 pm

    “Read Weatherills comment in the tweet above dopey”

    That accounts for one power station.

    It does not account for Playford or the various Gas ones you are putting out of business for which you scream in outrage when it costs a lot more to bring them up to full capacity every time the fucked up wind turbines fall over

  90. Walrus permalink
    September 29, 2016 3:46 pm

    All the towers knocked over were in the mid North.

    All it does is camouflage the problem and act as a convenient excuse to not mention the fact of turning the Wind Turbines “Off”

    As I said even if the towers had not fallen the blackout would have occured.

    https://www.electranet.com.au/what-we-do/solutions/network-map/

  91. Tom R permalink
    September 29, 2016 4:09 pm

    Ooh wally knows more than the experts now, he even has a map

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-29/sa-weather:-no-link-between-blackout-and-renewables-expert-says/7887052

  92. Walrus permalink
    September 29, 2016 4:15 pm

    “Ooh wally knows more than the experts now”

    As usual you mislead. The transmission problem is part of the problem not all of it

    So do they give an opinion on why the turbines were shut off.

    You are very reluctant to answer that question…………and I’m not surprised…….

    ROFLMAO at YOU

  93. Tom R permalink
    September 29, 2016 4:16 pm

    “Just how widespread those failures were was revealed later. More than 20 transmission towers were ripped from the ground by winds of cyclonic force, at least one generator was reportedly hit by lightning, and the whole grid blacked out – as it is designed to do in the event of such catastrophic failure.

    It wouldn’t have mattered if the Northern brown coal generator was operating or not, or even if there were 20 such large scale generators online, the blackout would still have occurred, as the grid owner, the Australian Energy Market Operator, the Premier and even federal energy minister Josh Frydenberg made clear”

    http://reneweconomy.com.au/2016/is-abcs-chris-uhlmann-the-new-face-of-the-anti-wind-lobby-90343

    Not that facts will slow down the stoopid, hey wally 😉

  94. Tom R permalink
    September 29, 2016 4:28 pm

    Xenophone has shown he’s just a liberal toady too

  95. Walrus permalink
    September 29, 2016 4:37 pm

    “Not that facts will slow down the stoopid”

    Pity they are actually not the FACTS though. I especially like the way they leave out so much detail……………… LOL

    Great independent link by the way…………ROFLMAO

  96. Walrus permalink
    September 29, 2016 4:45 pm

    What a basket case

    The highest electricity prices in the country and the least reliable.

  97. September 29, 2016 4:54 pm

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  98. September 29, 2016 4:54 pm

    “”The highest electricity prices in the country and the least reliable.””

    I think you mean…

    “The highest electricity prices in the country and the least reliable. LOL.”

  99. Blacked Out permalink
    September 29, 2016 4:59 pm

    (So, we had very sunk-time and money expensive grid, and grid-attachments, quite vital to modern life, at very significant risk, many components at absolute risk, of sustaining damage in a very significant, but transient, weather phenomenon event, potentially causing weeks, months, and years worth of intensive and extensive repairs, here and there and everywhere, beyond obvious, immediate structural damages, on patent and latent damages across applied widgets of various kinds and of various intrinsic, longevity-related, and longterm-reliability-related risk-ratings under uncontrolled and uncontrollable overstress and understress load conditions, with not significant consequential short- and longer-term public safety and liability implications: known knowns and known unknowns. What to do? Keep all the ‘appliances’ switched on, under conditions way, way outside normal operating parameters; or advise peoples, including direct-subject-matter-expert self, to ‘switch off’ as many ‘home’ appliances as possible, ideally all, until other than highly abnormal
    operating conditions prevail, shortly?)

  100. Walrus permalink
    September 29, 2016 6:20 pm

    Gold old Premier Jay does not want an independent enquiry………I wonder why LOL ?

  101. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 29, 2016 6:21 pm

    So the entire state was blacked out because SA is entirely reliant on a HV power cord from Victoria for base load power

    Other states will have gas turbines scattered around, that can be quickly switched on but not SA, they have a government that knows better.

    That’s not a commitment to renewables, it’s a commitment to poor planning and stupidity.

  102. Blacked Out permalink
    September 29, 2016 6:24 pm

    (….as it is designed to do in the event of such catastrophic failure….

    Stop lying. You know it makes perfect sense to want high-voltage electricity of questionable quality, from whatever source, flowing through a badly damaged, and still being damaged, grid, without affixing the extent of extant damage, which is made somewhat problematic during an ongoing damaging event, and without ameliorating extant and further damages as a direct consequence of the very act being suggested.)

  103. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 29, 2016 7:40 pm

    So do they give an opinion on why the turbines were shut off.

    An act of god? LOL

  104. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 29, 2016 11:32 pm

    I see there’s even more conspiracy stuff attempting to blame the people that fired a missile at a civilian aircraft for shooting it fown and killing everyone.

  105. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 30, 2016 2:16 am

  106. Tom R permalink
    September 30, 2016 5:39 am

    Pity they are actually not the FACTS though. I especially like the way they leave out so much detail../

    What kind of ‘detail’? the kind you claim? “So do they give an opinion on why the turbines were shut off.”

    or this kind?

    Wind turbines were actually providing more than 800MW of power when the lights went out (see graph above). So it wasn’t the lack of wind that was the problem. They didn’t operate after the blackout because they can’t. No plant can, not gas and not coal, until the grid is re-established.

    Nether Uhlmann, nor the mainstream ABC news reports, made mention of the gas plants, which were also operating at the time of the blackout, and were also unavailable to generate after the event – because the grid was not working.

    ”The highest electricity prices in the country and the least reliable.”

    Leave NSW out of it (according to murdor anyway)

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/power-shock-nsw-families-pay-highest-electricity-prices-in-the-world/news-story/75368ed35e0a817d403868636253e616?nk=d6d4e67c33b6496b67a6bd776df93528-1475176603

    So the entire state was blacked out because SA is entirely reliant on a HV power cord from Victoria for base load power

    yomm, you REALLY need to read some of the links out up, before making more stoopid remarks than you already have.

    Has anyone asked the question where the electrical pylons in the #SAstorms were sourced & what strength steel was used in their construction

    Why would you do that when you have a tired old whipping biy you can use as long as nobody actually THINKS about it.

    But I would love to see the answer to those questions AO. I do know that, since the system was privatised, they no longer have preventative maintenance. Fo instance, transformers are no longer maintained, they are simply replaced when they blow up. Having been on the end of this, and watching as all of our destroyed electrical appliances were gerry rigged back into working order with the cheapest and dodgiest methods and parts available, I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. And it is all legislated that it be done in that manner (we tried legal recourse, but were advised of the hopelessness of any action)

    This is interesting. It also highlights that SA’s power problems stem way back, funnily enough back to the privatisation era, which was well before renewables.

    The other consequence of privatisation has been a decline in service reliability, with the regular failure of fuses and transformers across South Australia. Before privatisation ETSA had maintenance teams which monitored transformers and replaced them before they failed, thus ensuring minimal interruption to the electrical supply.

    One theory for the increased failure of transformers after privatisation is that these teams were discontinued and instead transformers were left in place till they failed, giving them a slightly longer life of a year or two.

    https://www.uow.edu.au/~sharonb/afr-power.html

    So yes, we should have an enquiry, but not into renewables, but rather into the state of the infrastructure itself.

    Mind you, the poles could have been structurally fine, but with cyclonic winds being reported in an area that is not designated as cyclonic, the integrity may have been fine for their rating, it’s just that the actual weather exceeded the areas rating.

    If only there was an explanation for extreme weather events like this this? This is about the fourth year in a row we have had a once in 50 year weather event. It will soon be downgraded to simply ‘weather event’ at this rate.

  107. Tom R permalink
    September 30, 2016 5:51 am

    In my 70 years have never seen this exploitative behaviour during a natural disaster.

    The naked politicisation of this event is just appalling. And turnbull has finally shown his true denial colours for even the most willfully ignorant churno to see.

    I would hope that this extinguishes forever the faint hope that he was ever a ‘progressive’. He always was a conservative spiv, who just bullshitted to a gullible media, who never looked at his actions, only his slippery words.

    Unburdened by evidence, anti-wind campaigners used the South Australian blackout to kick off a debate about renewables while others waited for facts

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/29/is-this-a-new-low-politicians-using-a-natural-disaster-to-push-a-fact-free-agenda?CMP=share_btn_tw

  108. Tom R permalink
    September 30, 2016 6:01 am

    I see there’s even more conspiracy stuff attempting to blame the people that fired a missile at a civilian aircraft for shooting it fown and killing everyone. wind generators that were actually operating at a high capacity when the power went down due to ???? (climate change? privatisation? both?)

    Funny how there is no mention of turning off the Wind Turbines LOL

    That “LOL” was more accurate than I anticipated wally 😆

    Will you being using another “LOL” when you retract that statement? 😆

  109. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 30, 2016 6:50 am

    If only there was an explanation for extreme weather events like this this?

    I know!

    If only they could find out what is behind it all.

    What are the scientists and experts doing about it? where are they? LOL

  110. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 30, 2016 6:53 am

    Will they strip him of his citizenship? I think he needs to be met by the AFP with some metal bracelets at the airport!

  111. Tom R permalink
    September 30, 2016 7:31 am

    I think he needs to be met by the AFP with some metal bracelets at the airport! LOL

    In a phone call with The Huffington Post Australia, Roy insisted he did not travel in a “declared area” which would have led to criminal prosecution on terrorism charges on his return to Australia.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/09/29/former-assistant-minister-wyatt-roy-defends-dangerous-iraq-trip/

    Imagine it. A liberal pollie on Tewwa charges ROFL (that’s like LOL with steroids) LOL

  112. September 30, 2016 7:39 am

    I guess Wyatt Roy hoped to garner some street red by going to Iraq.

    Looks like it’s backfired… LOL…

    Did I mention – “LOL”?

  113. September 30, 2016 7:48 am

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  114. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 30, 2016 8:54 am

  115. Walrus permalink
    September 30, 2016 9:30 am

    “If only there was an explanation for extreme weather events like this this? ”

    Oh how we laughed…………..at them ROFLMAO

    “A negative IOD typically results in above-average winter–spring rainfall over parts of southern Australia as the warmer waters off northwest Australia provide more available moisture to weather systems crossing the country.”

    http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/iod/

  116. Tom R permalink
    September 30, 2016 9:35 am

    So having flogged all energy generation to the private sector we are now in a panic on energy security vs renewables. Dereliction of duty.

    Which is why he is a journalist, and I’m just a pissed off blogger. He’s concise!

    In 2002 South Australian households paid 30 per cent more than in non-privatised NSW (compared with 10 per cent more pre-privatisation and the opening of markets). When some 2800 middle-sized businesses became contestable and had their electricity prices deregulated in July 2001, they experienced price increases of between 30 per cent and 80 per cent.

    https://www.uow.edu.au/~sharonb/afr-power.html

    Yes, let’s examine the privatisation of our core infrastructures. See where THAT leads

  117. Tom R permalink
    September 30, 2016 9:40 am

    “Oh how we laughed” LOL

    Doesn’t mention (another) “one in 50 year” storm, or hurricanes where we don’t get hurricanes.

    If course, “weather” can be described. And, those same scientists who described that for you, also have an explanation for recurring “one in 50 year” storms.

    Any ideas? 😉

  118. Tom R permalink
    September 30, 2016 9:44 am

    oops, wallys gotta say sorry AGAIN LOL

  119. Walrus permalink
    September 30, 2016 9:45 am

    Oh, how we laughed…………………………….

    Tim Flannery 11 February 2007
    “So even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams and our river systems, and that’s a real worry for the people in the bush. If that trend continues then I think we’re going to have serious problems, particularly for irrigation.”

    http://realtimedata.water.nsw.gov.au/water.stm?ppbm=STORAGE_SITE&da&3&dakm_org

  120. Tom R permalink
    September 30, 2016 9:48 am

    wow, wally’s doubling down on the stoopid (actually, tripling down by now)

    Or has his account been hacked by the infamous grodo?

  121. Walrus permalink
    September 30, 2016 9:53 am

    Oh, how we laughed…………………………….

    https://www.sawater.com.au/community-and-environment/our-water-and-sewerage-systems/water-sources/reservoir-data

  122. Tom R permalink
    September 30, 2016 9:57 am

    or perhaps wally is sloane?

  123. September 30, 2016 10:43 am

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  124. Walrus permalink
    September 30, 2016 11:57 am

    Oh how we laughed at them………………

    “I love a sunburnt country,
    A land of sweeping plains,
    Of ragged mountain ranges,
    Of DROUGHTS and FLOODING RAINS.
    I love her far horizons,
    I love her jewel-sea,
    Her beauty and her terror
    The wide BROWN land for me!
    .
    Core of my heart, my country!
    Her pitiless BLUE sky,
    When, sick at heart, around us
    We see the cattle die
    But then the GREY clouds gather,
    And we can bless again
    The drumming of an army,
    The STEADY SOAKING RAIN

    Core of my heart, my country!
    Land of the rainbow gold,
    For FLOOD and fire and famine
    She pays us back threefold.
    Over the THIRSTY paddocks,
    Watch, after many days,
    The filmy veil of greenness
    That thickens as we gaze …”

    Dorothea Mackellar 1904

  125. Tom R permalink
    September 30, 2016 12:03 pm

    Of DROUGHTS and FLOODING RAINS.

    Of yearly “50 year” weather events LOL

  126. Tom R permalink
    September 30, 2016 12:19 pm

    Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has slammed Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull for promulgating “ignorant rubbish”

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/it-seems-tony-abbotts-back-premier-rounds-on-malcolm-turnbull-over-renewable-energy-20160929-grrw5y.html

    wally, yomm, ignorant rubbish LOL

  127. Tom R permalink
    September 30, 2016 1:34 pm

    Culprit Discovered!

  128. Tom R permalink
    September 30, 2016 2:01 pm

    Good question

  129. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 30, 2016 3:39 pm

    Now that is genuinely hilarious Tom R. The ALP has been on government in SA for 14 years but the infrastructure problems are due to Xenephon and the Liberals of almost 20 years ago!!!!

    That’s a genuoine lol

  130. Tom R permalink
    September 30, 2016 6:31 pm

    That’s a genuoine lol

    So, it’s the fault of people who had to live with the bad decision, not the fault of those who MADE the bad decision.

    That’s a genuoine lol

  131. September 30, 2016 7:06 pm

    (The canoeland pinkists have engaged in greenist tewwa by running their windmills at full throttle to blow over pylons and create a cyclone.)

  132. September 30, 2016 8:02 pm

    #teabagz makes a lot of sense… 😯

  133. and CO2 storage permalink
    October 1, 2016 1:04 am

    (And turnbull has finally shown his true denial colours for even the most willfully ignorant churno to see.

    Stop knocking ideologyfree Malcolm; he has his hands full pragmatising States’ Rights relationships via his Environment Minister; and his Science Minister is no less aspirational.)

  134. and CO2 storage permalink
    October 1, 2016 1:17 am

    (Environment Minister*)

  135. Tom R permalink
    October 1, 2016 7:55 am

    Now thats an aspir atio nal set of links CO2 😯

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ItsBouquet/status/781251576040157184

  136. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 1, 2016 7:57 am

    The formal ?entrenched racism of the white privilege variety.

  137. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 1, 2016 8:09 am

    Is that really wyatt roy above or is it matty newman letting off steam?

    He was also going to be a priest before entering journalism. There is something fundamentally cross wired about the workings of your brain once you are a dogbotherer. Uhlmann could easily join malcolm roberts alongside hanson.

  138. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 1, 2016 9:02 am

    The coalition should be held to account more than politically for the deliberate sabotage of a planned and shared national infrastructure. There should be criminal convictions and financial penalties – the same for their climate denial lies and policies which have held the country back and lined the pockets of their donors.

  139. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 1, 2016 10:29 am

    Tom R, if they’ve been in government for about 14 years, and have chosen not to change the policy of a government from last century, it seems a little LOL and odd to blame the government from last century

    LOL

  140. Tom R permalink
    October 1, 2016 11:06 am

    and have chosen not to change the policy

    Wow, so, buying back an EXTREMELY lucrative business from an international multi billionaire is as simple as “changing a policy”??

    Perhaps you could explain how, since the state Government is seemingly unable to even restrict the gouging the Federal Government seems to permit?

    “I will be writing to the Federal regulator and to the Prime Minister Tony Abbott to say that it is unacceptable for a regulated company like SA Power Networks to make super profits from its customers,’’ he said.

    SA Power Networks is asking the Federal Government for two more price rises, one of which would add $20 to the average annual power bill.

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/sa-power-networks-owned-by-billionaire-li-kashing-makes-four-times-more-profit-out-of-us-than-its-uk-group/story-fni6uo1m-1226943633683

    oops LOL (sob)

  141. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 1, 2016 11:17 am

    Yep. In government for 14 years. But blame their predecessor!!

  142. Tom R permalink
    October 1, 2016 11:36 am

    Yep, get all the holes in your whinge pointed out, continue to whinge the original whinge.

    So, when the seas are lapping up over the carparks of beach suburbs and storms flattening THREE main electrical distribution lines, I suppose you’ll blame the wind turbines that are designed to ameliate these weather conditions rather than the conditions themselves?

    LOL

  143. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 1, 2016 12:04 pm

    LOL

  144. October 1, 2016 12:34 pm

    (I am thoroughly enjoying seeing talkbull reduced to rabbit`s puppet on so many fronts; the `resounding` popularity victory; wooing businesses from singapore and s-korea to their copper-network at `asean` with `innovation`; economically `responsible` marriage un-binding poll; canoeland weather conditions; while young wyatt gallivants around the middle east, thumbing his nose at zombie recommendations.)

  145. Tom R permalink
    October 1, 2016 12:43 pm

    LOL

    One of yor more lucid comments, well done 😉

  146. October 1, 2016 12:44 pm

    (Other news you may enjoy might be; how decrepit old war criminals without `honor` are gathering `honorary` doctorates again. Do they come with `honorary` hex-debts. l wonder.)

  147. Tom R permalink
    October 2, 2016 1:11 pm

    wow, in the lolstralian too

    The operator of South Australia’s high-voltage electricity transmission infrastructure was warned of the risk of tower collapse a decade ago because of poor maintenance, sparking calls for more investment in Australia’s power network in the wake of South Australia’s statewide blackout.

    ……
    ElectraNet said its towers were “fit for purpose” as they had worked satisfactorily for the past 50 years.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/electranet-was-warned-of-tower-risk-long-ago/news-story/abc21f33acf2b752e6ec3e6fcb6e1999?nk=6d2daae5e317646e34dd60f0bda24ea6-1475374017

    I still can’t quite figure out why that Chinese billionaire makes so much more from his SA investment than elsewhere?

  148. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 3, 2016 11:43 am

    I see an article in The Guardian that says half the women working for UK’s Unite (a union) have claimed they have experienced harassment or bullying by other union officials.

    I’m sure that couldn’t happen here.

  149. October 3, 2016 6:04 pm

    ln the non-battle between `this` team verses `that` team, l notice penny wong is making a goose of herself again. Does everybody remember when under joolya, sweet penny went on qandaland to argue the `team-cause` and against her own family interest of not supporting gay marriage. ln this same manner, l saw sweet penny arguing the rabbits `shirt-fronting` bullshit over the ukraine war-zone flight shot-down; so it seems team-blib is now goose-stepping to rabbits tune. Me-too, me-too, cry all those unfit to rule over us. No fcuking difference yet again. No fcuking judgement either.

  150. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 4, 2016 8:36 am

  151. Tom R permalink
    October 4, 2016 8:49 am

    Hearing reports a large number of complaints have been made about Chris Uhlmann’s blackout coverage

    And he’s doubling down on the stupid today

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-04/electricity-security-complex-in-sa-says-koutsantonis/7899302

    He might even have a basis in truth in this this time because, yes, the NEM is failing us. Except, in his eyes, it’s renewables fault, not the infrastructures

    Has he once asked WHY 22 towers fell over?

  152. Unaccompanied Diplomatic Mail permalink
    October 4, 2016 1:26 pm

    (No fcuking judgement either.

    Check your luggage before boarding?)

  153. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 4, 2016 5:50 pm

    Another vignette from the theatre of the absurd which is played out daily on university campuses throughout the west:

    “Forty or so “social justice” protestors disrupt a keynote address at DePauw University, holding signs that scold the audience for being insufficiently deferential to the protestors’ racial fixations and delusions of being oppressed. Being schooled in “privilege and identity,” and therefore suitably cowed and pretentious, the audience starts applauding the disruption, and applauding the scolding being aimed at them. And then those applauding are promptly scolded for doing so. …

    The only question is which party is the more wretched and degenerate. The vain little scolds who claim to be oppressed at a university where tuition fees are a mere $50,000 a year, or the cowed and pretentious dupes who applaud their own scolding.”

  154. Tom R permalink
    October 4, 2016 6:20 pm

    Another vignette from the theatre of the absurd

    #Iblamewindfarms

  155. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 5, 2016 10:26 am

    Typical AFP blatant bias toward the Libs.

  156. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 5, 2016 11:36 am

  157. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 5, 2016 12:57 pm

    It really is bizarre that people face gaol for wearimg underwear that has a flag on it.

  158. Tony permalink
    October 5, 2016 1:35 pm

    “It really is bizarre that people face gaol for wearimg underwear that has a flag on it.”

    Don’t you get it ToM? They weren’t wearing underwear, they were wearing budgie smugglers. Budgie smugglers!

  159. Tom R permalink
    October 5, 2016 2:12 pm

    It really is bizarre that people face gaol for wearimg underwear that has a flag on it.

    Not as bizarre as dopes thinking wind farms blew over power lines.

  160. Tom R permalink
    October 5, 2016 2:13 pm

  161. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 5, 2016 4:17 pm

    It really is bizarre that people face gaol for wearimg underwear that has a flag on it.

    When they were planning their adventure and buying the undies, did no-one think that there could be problems with the gag in a very conservative country? Anyone? Not even chrissie pynes staffer?

    There have been people in australia calling for citizens to be gaoled for any flag abuse

    .

  162. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 5, 2016 4:29 pm

    The energy regulator has preliminary report out – cause still unclear. Luckily this place is blessed with trolls who are more knowledgeable and certain about the causes.

  163. Tony permalink
    October 5, 2016 5:02 pm

    SA blackout due to ‘transmission system faults’ in extreme weather, report finds

    That’s Grog and the Guardian spinning the report to suit their renewables-will-save-us-from-dangerous-climate-change narrative.

    In fact, the report sets out a timeline whereby the system was coping despite the loss of three 275kV transmission lines. It was only after 315 MW of wind generation “disconnected” that the Black System occurred.

    The predicted weather front moved through SA on the afternoon of Wednesday 28 September 2016, including high winds, thunderstorms, lightning strikes, hail, and heavy rainfall.

    The weather resulted in multiple transmission system faults. In the short time between 16:16 and 16:18, system faults included the loss of three major 275 kV transmission lines north of Adelaide.

    Generation initially rode through the faults, but at 16:18, following an extensive number of faults in a short period, 315 MW of wind generation disconnected (one group at 16:18:09, a second group at 16:18:15), also affecting the region north of Adelaide.

    The uncontrolled reduction in generation resulted in increased flow on the main Victorian interconnector (Heywood) to make up the deficit.

    This resulted in the Heywood Interconnector overloading. To avoid damage to the interconnector, the automatic-protection mechanism activated, tripping the interconnector. In this event, this resulted in the remaining customer load and electricity generation in SA being lost (referred to as a Black System).

    This automatic-protection operated in less than half a second at 16:18.

    The event resulted in the SA regional electricity market being suspended.

    The report also states “Additional analysis is required to determine the reasons for the reduction in generation and observed voltage levels before any conclusions can be drawn. (Section 3.3)

  164. October 5, 2016 5:17 pm

    “There have been people in australia calling for citizens to be gaoled for any flag abuse”

    Maybe. I, for one, know tasteful flag-themed swimwear when I see it.

  165. Walrus permalink
    October 5, 2016 5:27 pm

    Mmmmmm…………nice

    You do realise you by posting that and me by commenting probably makes us both sexists ?

  166. Walrus permalink
    October 5, 2016 5:30 pm

    “It was only after 315 MW of wind generation “disconnected” that the Black System occurred. ”

    In other words if you want to rely on wind power you need to have spare capacity of 100% of your needs running in other states at all times. Otherwise the gigantic extension cord will “trip over”

    What idiots !!!!!!!!!!

  167. Tom R permalink
    October 5, 2016 6:07 pm

    following an extensive number of faults in a short period, 315 MW of wind generation disconnected

    Yes, shut down, in the same way the interconnector did, for self preservation, because of the extensive number of faults

    The lines came down from between “16:16 and 16:18”, the wind turbines disconnected “one group at 16:18:09, a second group at 16:18:15”

    Or did the wind just happen to stop just after these “extensive number of faults in a short period”

    The stupid is growing stronger here by hte minute. I can’t wait for ulman (lectrodeMan) to give us his warped interpretation of this.

    “The transmission towers fell down, resulting in a cessation of wind!”

    oops LOL

  168. October 5, 2016 6:11 pm

    “Yes, shut down, in the same way the interconnector did, for self preservation, because of the extensive number of faults”

    You better tell AEMO, then, because they say “Additional analysis is required to determine the reasons for the reduction in generation and observed voltage levels before any conclusions can be drawn.”

    But I repeat myself.

  169. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 5, 2016 6:43 pm

    That lass seems to be very patriotic

  170. Tom R permalink
    October 5, 2016 6:57 pm

    So why did they disconnect tosy?

  171. October 5, 2016 7:07 pm

    “So why did they disconnect tosy?”

    Nobody knows yet. Not even Grog or The Guardian. Or you.

  172. Tom R permalink
    October 5, 2016 7:10 pm

    .Exactly,yet you ulman and the other haterz have immediately blamed wind power

  173. October 5, 2016 7:19 pm

    “.Exactly,yet you … have immediately blamed wind power”

    Link?

  174. Tom R permalink
    October 5, 2016 9:43 pm

    My bad tosy, I must have mistaken you for wally/yomm for a minute

  175. Walrus permalink
    October 5, 2016 10:36 pm

    “.Exactly,yet you ulman and the other haterz have immediately blamed wind power”

    Well ………your only alternatives are to blame coal power or the giant extension cord that relies on………………………….. COAL POWER

  176. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 5, 2016 11:10 pm

    No. I said they were too reliant on other states for base load power.

  177. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2016 7:40 am

    your only alternatives are to blame coal power or the giant extension cord that relies on

    Or piss weak infrastrucutre?

    No. I said they were too reliant on other states for base load power.

    No, you said they were TOTALLY reliant

    And even after the initial report lays the blame at the feet of the power lines coming down, it’s somehow still all about the wind farms.

    Why the farms came off line is just one of many unanswered questions.

    Another is, why did all of the gas turbine backups fail … again?

    The biggest is why did the power lines come down on such a massive scale to begin with.

    But yea, it’s all about the Wind Farms, isn’t it, not the infrastructure, as the report highlights.

  178. October 6, 2016 9:09 am

    “But yea, it’s all about the Wind Farms, isn’t it, not the infrastructure, as the report highlights.”

    You either didn’t read the report or didn’t understand it.

  179. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2016 9:13 am

    ulman plays the ‘hysterical’ card. You know, like he was as the storm was unfolding.

  180. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2016 9:23 am

    You either didn’t read the report or didn’t understand it.

    Considering I had to highlight the bits between what you bolded, then that view can easily be turned around.

    Others get it, why can’t you?

    The Australian Energy Market Operator has pointed to South Australia’s extreme weather last week as the prime cause of “multiple transmission system faults” resulting in a statewide blackout.

    In a preliminary report the regulator cites severe weather as the factor triggering the transmission system failures “including, in the space of 12 seconds, the loss of three major 275kV transmission lines north of Adelaide.”

    In addition to the transmission lines, Aemo notes in the late afternoon, after “multiple faults in a short period”, 315mW of wind generation disconnected, which affected the region north of Adelaide.

    …..

    Energy economist Bruce Mountain told Guardian Australia the report, while preliminary, made it abundantly clear that the South Australian event was “a transmission failure, not a generation failure.”

    He said it was clear the primary event creating the sequence leading to the blackout was the failure of three major transmission lines. By the time the third transmission line went out, it was “game over”, he said.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/oct/05/sa-blackout-due-to-transmission-system-faults-in-extreme-weather-says-report?CMP=share_btn_tw

    So the question. Why did it disconnect?

    Bigger question, why did the line come down to start with?

  181. Walrus permalink
    October 6, 2016 12:21 pm

    “Another is, why did all of the gas turbine backups fail … again?”

    Oh…….its fossil fuel’s fault as well.

    Perhaps they need a bit of time to “ramp up” from “idle” ?

  182. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 6, 2016 12:25 pm

  183. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2016 12:58 pm

    Perhaps they need a bit of time to “ramp up” from “idle” ?

    I suppose that’s the wind farms fault then LOL

    If a power station is “forced to shut down to protect itself from a storm, it doesnt matter what the energy source is”

    if? Why so many questions still? It’s interesting that this is ‘unknown’ even now.

  184. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 6, 2016 1:15 pm

  185. Walrus permalink
    October 6, 2016 4:39 pm

    “I suppose that’s the wind farms fault then LOL”

    Yep…….you finally got the concept.

    You need to keep fossil fuel power running at full pelt in SA and Vic in case nature’s fart power fails to deliver

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