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Lazarus Rising: The Returnification of Tony Abbott

October 5, 2016

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*****AN EXCLUSIVE GUTTER TRASH INVESTIGATION*****

  • Abbott back in the race for the top job
  • Turnbull’s dramatic slump in the latest polls
  • Liberal MPs ponder future under Turnbull’s fledgling popularity

It takes a peculiar kind of loyalty to kick a leader in the guts when he’s already down but that’s exactly what former PM Tony Abbott has done during his whirlwind taxpayer-funded tour of the UK and Europe.

Speaking to an audience of diehard conservatives at a Tory Party Conference in Birmingham, Mr Abbott declared that he had what it takes to lead Australia once again.

Previously, Mr Abbott had indicated that he was prepared to live out the rest of his political career on the sidelines, toying with the idea of being revered as some sort of self-proclaimed ‘father figure.’

Bank in April, he told Sky News – ‘the Abbott era has been and I think my role is to be occasionally perhaps an elder statesman, certainly a very vigorous and forthright member for Warringah… to be a standard bearer for liberal conservative values.’

However since then, we have witnessed the marvellous unravelling of his successor Malcolm Turnbull, who is now considered anathema amongst the increasingly vocal conservatives within his own party, and a disappointing failure amongst the electorate at large.

Less than a Third of Voters are Satisfied with Turnbull’s Performance

The Coalition’s primary vote dipped below 40 per cent for the first time under Malcolm Turnbull’s leadership last week, which is lower than where Tony Abbott was when he was dumped as leader a year ago.

It would take a particular kind of stoicism and strength of character to show support for a leader during these trying times and unfortunately, for Malcolm Turnbull, Tony Abbott is not that man.

Make no mistake, Tony Abbott is positioning himself for the top job and is planning to stage a coup.  He already has the support of the right-wing conservatives within the party, and it will only take one or two of the moderates who must now be ‘considering their future prospects’ in the increasing likelihood of electoral defeat at the next election to switch allegiances.

The man who said ‘there will be no wrecking, no undermining, and no sniping’ a mere 12 months ago, is now firmly ensconced in the mainstream media here and overseas offering his opinions on everything from the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 to Brexit and the European immigration crisis.

These aren’t the musings of someone quietly pondering life on the backbenches.

A Labor insider told The Gutter Trash that he did not expect Mr Turnbull to last more than 18 months as leader, let alone a three-year parliamentary term.

‘You don’t suddenly start going around the country giving speeches on the economy as a backbencher from Warringah.’

‘He’s not walking around giving these speeches, building up these issues, reminding people he’s around, talking about his legacy, for any reason other than this is a guy who’s having another tilt at the leadership.’

A senior Liberal source close to Mr Abbott told us that the former prime minister maintained a “good chance” of returning to the job because he is popular with the party membership compared to Malcolm Turnbull.

The conservatives in the LNP are still reeling from their near death experience at the last election and the resurgence of Pauline Hanson and her ilk aided and abetted by Malcolm Turnbull’s own senate changes.

They will see this as a clear sign that their time has emerged again and the Turnbull experiment has failed.

 

Related: Newspoll: Government Loses Support In Every State Since Election

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89 Comments leave one →
  1. October 5, 2016 1:44 pm

  2. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 5, 2016 3:30 pm

    Well it’s great news. Maybe since Kevin didn’t get to be boss of the UN, he could make a comeback too!

  3. Tom R permalink
    October 5, 2016 5:30 pm

    Sounds saucy

    I note with yabot leading the charge for Aus to have another fantastic ‘free trade agreement’ wit Britain, wouldn’t a journo be more interested in finding out if he has actually relinquished his British citizenship yet or not?

    Kind of pertinent one would have thought?

    I mean, he’s not or never was an Indonesian citizen, yet they gave our car manufacturing away in that one.

    What else is he willing to sell out for the ‘motherland’?

  4. Tom R permalink
    October 5, 2016 5:33 pm

    ohoh, even their paid puppet couldn’t bring himself to recommend an ABCC


  5. October 5, 2016 5:54 pm

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  6. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2016 9:36 am

    So, brandis is full of shit. Who’d have thought?

  7. October 6, 2016 12:43 pm

    Exhibit A:

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  8. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 6, 2016 12:45 pm

  9. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 6, 2016 1:47 pm

    Tony was bravely representing the voters of Warringah by speaking at a Tory party conference in the motherland when he let slip he wanted another crack at being PM. Here are just a few of the things we need him to save us from…

  10. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 6, 2016 2:18 pm

  11. October 6, 2016 4:20 pm

    Smuggler-gate court decision pending. Will the Budgie Nine be jailed or worse for the heinous crime of exposing their Speedos?

  12. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2016 4:27 pm

    “Malaysian authorities would be wise not to over react”??

    typical lolstralian

    Malaysia would be wise not to read their rot.

    which reminded me of this, just .. cos 🙂

  13. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2016 4:39 pm

    Will the Budgie Nine be jailed or worse for the heinous crime of exposing their Speedos breaking the law of the country they are in?

  14. October 6, 2016 4:44 pm

    Anti-climax. They have been cautioned and discharged. (The judge must have read the Oz editorial.)

    LOL

  15. October 6, 2016 4:54 pm

    I’m sure all the moralisers on The Twitter will be pleased.

    ROFL

  16. Walrus permalink
    October 6, 2016 4:59 pm

    “I’m sure all the moralisers on The Twitter will be pleased. ”

    You mean from idiots like this ?

  17. October 6, 2016 5:10 pm

    It’s hard keeping up with everything we should be outraged about.

  18. Walrus permalink
    October 6, 2016 5:18 pm

    Indeed !

  19. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2016 5:22 pm

    It’s hard keeping up with everything we should be outraged about.

    Keep it Simple S####

    Just StayAngry with Wind Farms 😉

  20. October 6, 2016 5:26 pm

    “Just StayAngry with Wind Farms😉”

    Yes, but it just doesn’t seem enough.

    LMAO

  21. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 7, 2016 10:12 am

  22. October 7, 2016 10:18 am

    The “pitchfork crowd” not happy with Uhlmann.

  23. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 7, 2016 10:28 am

    These people are just shitbags in suits, they know the price of everything and the value of nothing. The IPA should have their charitable status removes and James bloody Paterson should be kicked out of parliament! The good thing about paterson and the useless freedom boy is that their very presence in parliament reinforces that democracy is just a word, what we have is imported US libertarian/teabag fools.

  24. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2016 10:31 am

    “It’s insensitive but they don’t care.”

    Of course I don’t care! And I don’t care about you you moralising mongrel – you’re just another moaning divisive leftist fucking up society with stupid identity politics. Cry me a river, you inane pantywaist.

  25. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2016 10:33 am

    Another 10 column feet of inane tweets. AO, you need a twitterectomy!

  26. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 7, 2016 10:34 am

    oops, blue poles story for the above here:

  27. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 7, 2016 10:36 am

    Another 10 column feet of inane tweets. AO, you need a twitterectomy!

    No, I need a liberalpartyshitbagectomy. The whole country needs one.

  28. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 7, 2016 10:47 am

    You just don’t like twitter because it’s fast and furious sb and the rubbish the pollies spoon feed everyone on TV and radio is completely exposed as exercises in spin and propaganda aided by journalists who just parrot the press releases of the day without scrutiny or are completely biased and owned by corporate australia.

  29. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 7, 2016 10:53 am

    A tweet especially for sb

  30. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2016 10:57 am

    OK, I liked that last lot, KL. 🙂

  31. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2016 11:03 am

    And I’ll have you know that every day is smile day for me. Whenever I catch myself frowning I make a conscious effort to put a smile on my dial. And today I walked around the office doling out chocolate on account of it being the first sighting this year of the Merryteaser a truly great choccy snack. Plenty of smiles there. World peace through chocolate:

  32. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 7, 2016 11:04 am

  33. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 7, 2016 11:08 am

    World peace through chocolate

    My family would be making a huge contribution to that sb!

  34. October 7, 2016 11:09 am

    I much prefer James Paterson’s earlier work, like when he wrote crime fiction novels and stuff.

  35. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2016 11:12 am

    🙂

  36. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2016 11:16 am

    “Time to stop pointing the finger at clean energy”

    It should be fisted rather than fingered – fucking the economy, killing jobs, making bankers wealthy and not changing the temperature on little bit. Truly a leftists wet dream.

  37. Walrus permalink
    October 7, 2016 11:16 am

    “Today is World Smile Day!”

    Sure is all because it’s a great day for the Australian Taxpayer with the last Ford rolling off the production line in less than an hour

  38. October 7, 2016 11:22 am

    “If Australia were to ratify the Paris Agreement and miss its first target then there would be few ramifications. Technically, parties to Paris are not required to meet their pledges.”

    Good.

  39. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2016 11:48 am

    I see ulman is calling experts in the field ‘heretics’ now.

    What is with religious nutjobs and their prediliction for playing a martyr?

    “Still burning heretics under our skies
    Religion’s still burning inside”

  40. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2016 12:00 pm

    And ulman, who has been pushing the ‘wind farms did it’ barrow before the lines had even finished falling, doesn’t seem to care too much about the other failures across the board. Like, why did the gas go missing … again!

    South Australia: Where was gas generation when it was needed?

    http://reneweconomy.com.au/2016/south-australia-gas-generation-needed-68026

    (That will probably (rightly?) be blamed on a storm that passed through around that time) 😉

    As some twitter twit mentioned with wtte

    “SA still gets the majority of its electricity from fossil fuels. Shouldn’t we blame that?”

  41. October 7, 2016 12:21 pm

    “I see ulman is calling experts in the field ‘heretics’ now.”

    Not really. Unless you think Uhlmann himself is an ‘expert in the field’.

    Now to dare suggest that the state’s heavy reliance on wind generation might have made its grid more vulnerable to a blackout is heresy.

    So, since this column raised that heresy last week, let’s examine it again, in the light of the AEMO’s preliminary report on the event

    […]

    Finally, we know that the energy market is in transition to cleaner forms of power and that is unstoppable. In time the engineering difficulties posed by wind will be overcome.

    Or they will be as long as people aren’t burned as heretics for daring to point out the real and well documented problems with integrating new forms of energy into an old grid.

  42. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 7, 2016 12:30 pm

    This is work related, but worth passing on for yourselves or your children/grandchildren due to the controversies.

    There’s been a bit of a quiet revolution in child health policy for the Introduction to Solids for babies. It was thought previously that we should encourage BF for as long as possible [many health benefits] and not introduce solids until 6 mths of age.

    Well, the experts have now found that the higher incidence of food allergies that we have today is related to previous policy and they now recommend exclusive BF until around 4 – 6 mths [but NOT before 4 mths] and they recommend that an infant receive all foods in the first 12 mths of life, including egg and peanut.

    Here is the website with all the info:
    https://www.allergy.org.au/

    Here is the public education in handy, printable pdf formats

    Infant feeding & Allergy Prevention:
    https://www.allergy.org.au/images/pcc/ASCIA_guidelines_infant_feeding_and_allergy_prevention.pdf

    How to Introduce Solids:
    https://www.allergy.org.au/images/pcc/ASCIA_PCC_How_to_introduce_solid_foods_2016.pdf

    and a video:
    http://www.healthed.com.au/clinical-articles/expert-interviews/transitioning-to-solids/

    Just keeping you all educated and up to date with current evidence based practice!

  43. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2016 12:33 pm

    Now to dare suggest that the state’s heavy reliance on wind generation might have made its grid more vulnerable to a blackout is heresy.

    No, it is more like an unproven assumption, not really something a political commentator should be lecturing electrical engineers on

    And he didn’t just ‘suggest’ it, he pointed the finger as the only possible cause, ignoring everything else.

  44. Walrus permalink
    October 7, 2016 12:34 pm

    “Just keeping you all educated and up to date with current evidence based practice!”

    I reckon its all caused by not eating enough mud while you are a kid these days plus all the artificial colourings etc.

  45. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 7, 2016 12:40 pm

  46. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 7, 2016 12:42 pm

    I reckon its all caused by not eating enough mud while you are a kid these days plus all the artificial colourings etc.

    Yep, good clean dirt is missing in kid’s lives these days isn’t it? Kids aren’t allowed to do anything anymore!

  47. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2016 12:42 pm

    Just keeping you all educated and up to date with current evidence based practice!

    Cheers ao. Although, I get the feeling that to some, this will just prove AGW is a crock 😉

    Why is it our problem? Staff it

    So, colesworth have sacked a heap of people, and now taxpayer funded police officers are doing their jobs for them.

    wtf?

  48. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2016 12:43 pm

    Yep, good clean dirt is missing in kid’s lives these days isn’t it?

    Not all ao, ours had a healthy diet of mud cakes and dirt pies. May explain a lot of their behaviour now though 😉

  49. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2016 12:49 pm

    Yes, it is. Especially since the AEMO report has been released.

    heretic ulman, what say you?

    It seems like a good time to ask: is privatisation of electricity networks ever a good idea?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/07/it-seems-like-a-good-time-to-ask-is-privatisation-of-electricity-networks-ever-a-good-idea?CMP=share_btn_tw

  50. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 7, 2016 12:57 pm

    So, colesworth have sacked a heap of people, and now taxpayer funded police officers are doing their jobs for them.

    Exactly, that is the reason I have steadfastly refused to use the DIY registers, they have done kids out of jobs. Now we are expected to fund short sighted company policies!

    To expect the public purse to fund what is a private enterprise problem of management lacking foresight, should be seriously debated in public.
    The community should be outraged at police being used instead of paid security. Talk about privatising profits and socialising the losses – we should be given shares and the public become owners.
    I don’t expect too much though because imo, labor has been as gung ho neoliberal as the libs, which is what made me move to the greens.

  51. October 7, 2016 1:08 pm

    “Like, why did the gas go missing … again!”

    In the events leading up to SA region Black System, generation reduction occurred at six wind farms. There was no reduction in thermal generation. Each reduction coincided with a drop in voltage observed at the wind farms’ connection points. (Section 3.3)

    The generation mix just prior to the event was: Wind generation 883MW; Thermal Generation 330MW; and Import from Victoria 613MW.

    You don’t have to be a heretic to work out that SA has an over-reliance on electricity imported from Victoria.

  52. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 7, 2016 1:09 pm

    I’ve noticed a lot of frantic tradie activity and drilling noises outside my house while getting ready for work. They tell me they are installing the wiring for the NBN!

  53. October 7, 2016 1:22 pm

    When 315MW of that 613MW wind generation disconnected (for some as-yet-unknown reason), it placed extra demand on the Victorian interconnector, which became overloaded, tripped, and SA blacked out.

    The uncontrolled reduction in generation resulted in increased flow on the main Victorian interconnector (Heywood) to make up the deficit. This resulted in the Heywood Interconnector overloading. To avoid damage to the interconnector, the
    automatic-protection mechanism activated, tripping the interconnector. In this event, this resulted in the remaining customer load and electricity generation in SA being lost (referred to as a Black System).

  54. Walrus permalink
    October 7, 2016 1:56 pm

    “Most appalling thing I’ve seen in almost 40 years writing about politics.”

    It’s a pretty stupid comment by Leyonhjelm. There would be very few journalists who have not made certain enemies over the years.

    I trust he will now be consistent and comment in the same way every time a journo dies

  55. Walrus permalink
    October 7, 2016 2:05 pm

    I notice Neil is not around anymore.

    Which kind of confirms my suspicions that Neil was actually TB

  56. October 7, 2016 2:11 pm

    “It’s a pretty stupid comment by Leyonhjelm.”

    It’s a statement of fact that most Western Sydney Wanderers fans wouldn’t feel like going to Rebecca Wilson’s funeral. Dennis Atkins has turned up the outrage meter to Righteous Indignation.

    http://cdn.barstoolsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/outrageometer.gif?b51f67

  57. October 7, 2016 2:19 pm

    “Which kind of confirms my suspicions that Neil was actually TB”

    LULZ…

  58. October 7, 2016 2:22 pm

  59. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2016 2:49 pm

    You don’t have to be a heretic to work out that SA has an over-reliance on electricity imported from Victoria.

    And you don’t need to be heretic electrical engineer to work out that the gas turbines that are supposed to be a backup never operate when they are required (as the link I put up but you seem to have ignored showed)

    When 315MW of that 613MW wind generation disconnected

    You forgot the bit from the report tosy “Generation initially rode through the faults, but at 16:18, following an extensive number of faults in a short period, 315 MW of wind generation disconnected”

    read the comments in my previous link 😉

    http://reneweconomy.com.au/2016/south-australia-gas-generation-needed-68026#comment-2935940848

  60. October 7, 2016 3:04 pm

    “following an extensive number of faults in a short period”

    Yes, following, not caused by. There’s a big difference. As yet we don’t know what caused the disconnection.

    Here’s an idea, though: what if the failure of wind generation and the failure of transmission lines had the same cause (high winds for example)? One did not necessarily cause the other.

  61. October 7, 2016 3:08 pm

    “And you don’t need to be heretic electrical engineer to work out that the gas turbines that are supposed to be a backup never operate when they are required.”

    It’s a bit naive to think that cold gas generators can be instantly fired up in the event of a total blackout. If that’s SA’s Plan B, then they have more problems than just over-reliance on Victoria.

  62. Walrus permalink
    October 7, 2016 3:43 pm

    He added: ‘Furthermore, death does not suddenly absolve us of what we did when we were alive.’

    Maybe………but it kinda limits your ability to defend your actions.

    If he had a problem with her he should have expressed such whilst she was alive (which perhaps he did) and today just politely shut the fuck up.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3826296/Senator-David-Leyonhjelm-s-horrid-Rebecca-Wilson-tweet-slammed.html#ixzz4MN50MDwE
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

  63. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2016 4:10 pm

    Yes, following, not caused by. There’s a big difference. As yet we don’t know what caused the disconnection.

    Yes, there is a big difference. Yet ulman etal have assumed it is because of the wind generators. Considering everything else in the state went to shit at the same time, that’s a pretty big call.

    The gas generators being just another one of the electrical infrastructure that didn’t perform as they were supposed to

    It’s a bit naive to think that cold gas generators can be instantly fired up in the event of a total blackout.

    Did you read the link?

    It goes through the many failures of the gas generators (many of which were already running at 33% capacity) to perform the job they were allegedly designed for

    At 16:18 Transmision Towers get flattened, SA generating capacity & Victorian Interconnector overloads and trips – SA grid collapses.So, let’s start with Plan A of the Back Start procedure.

    At 16:32 SRAS #1 (Presumably Origin’s Quarantine PS Unit), black-start capable with multiple units (216MW in total), ordered to power up with ElectraNet switching to facilitate power to auxillaries and main units at Torrens Island PS next door.

    At 17:13 SRAS #1 starts supplying power to Torrens PS to enable auxillaries, but by 17:55 it is diagnosed they can’t supply enough power to enable any Torrens PS main unit restarts. [Suspect one of the Quarantine PS units not available].

    It really looks to be a cluster f### of monumental scale. Across the board.

    Laying the blame for a rolling cluster f## at the feet of wind generators is lazy at the best, complicit at the worst.

  64. October 7, 2016 4:11 pm

    If he had a problem with her he should have expressed such whilst she was alive (which perhaps he did)

    He did.

    Speaking of politeness and “snuffing it”, why do we have so many euphamisms for “kicking the bucket”?

  65. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2016 4:15 pm

    Leyonhjelm’s a perfect example of a white privileged bully who can’t take it when the shoes on the other foot.

    http://junkee.com/the-chaser-got-david-leyonhjelm-his-very-own-wicked-camper-van-and-he-didnt-even-say-thank-you/81399

  66. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2016 6:39 pm

  67. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 7, 2016 7:23 pm

    Walrus
    October 7, 2016 3:43 pm

    Good comment walrus. Lleyonhjelm shows no human decency at all. I think he loves to create a controversy to get people talking about him.

  68. October 7, 2016 8:01 pm

    “why do we have so many euphamisms for “kicking the bucket”?

    I like the last one on the list.

  69. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 7, 2016 8:09 pm

  70. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 7, 2016 8:09 pm

  71. October 7, 2016 8:26 pm

    The eleventy`n rabbit legacy beeps loud today as most auto-plants start to close. Hey teabags, how spooky is it that `Ted-Bullpit` also died today.

  72. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 7, 2016 8:53 pm

    The eleventy`n rabbit legacy beeps loud today as most auto-plants start to close.

    Ford announced they were leaving under the Rudd/Gillard govt

  73. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 7, 2016 9:14 pm

    Senator paterson must have been given the nod to throw the dead cat on the table – even if he looks completely stupid!
    Anything to get brandis’ shenanigans off the front page.

  74. October 7, 2016 9:16 pm

    tweet,,,,Without alcohol, cultural insensitivity & boorishness bordering on cretinism, what`d be left of Australian manhood?,,,,

    # ,, rest assured armchair, 9-more junior recruits for a team that appreciates boorishness and cretinism and have a soon-to-return leader that knows about `smugglers`

  75. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 7, 2016 9:41 pm

    FFS, a group of guys in their 20s wears speedos at a car race, and the hand wringers whine about cultural sensitivity.

    There are parts of KL that are just as seedy as Bangkok, the cultural police turn a blind eye to all that because of the desire to attract tourists.

    Get over it.

  76. October 7, 2016 10:40 pm

    l agree tinfoil`osy. The `pitchfork-crowd` should realize by now that toolman being toolman is nothing to worry about. When toolman engages in random outbreaks of `proper-journalism`, well that could be a time to fret. But when it is just `classic-toolman` doing blot-like posts, swanny-interviews, or swooning over teabag guests at teh-press club, the `pitchfork-crowd` should just sit back and enjoy.

  77. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 8, 2016 8:29 am

    Get over it.

    Yeah! Aussie white males of privilege must be able to behave as they wish, whenever they wish, even if that juvenile, immature and arrogant behaviour causes offence in another country.

    Kids of 13 yo are locked up in the NT as adults and violated, yet these ‘boys’ in their mid 20’s are written up by the media as young school boys just having fun. One of them is a Lib staffer which is the pipeline for political party representation. Just a bunch of young libbers having fun as was their habit at their private boys school.
    These men are the products of the best education system that money here can buy, the bastions of white male privilege and born and bred to rule.
    Get over it [and the cultural cringe]

    oink oink oink!

  78. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 8, 2016 9:04 am

    A bunch of handwringers get hung up by a group of guys in their 20s who have behaved in a slighly yobboish manner overseas!

    Heavens!!! I don’t think I’ve EVER seen that before!! And apparently it’s an issue because of the school they attended!!

    I’ve never heard of young men from public schools behaving like yobbos.

    What a crock.

    Handwringers.

  79. October 8, 2016 9:11 am

    “Aussie white males of privilege”

    Or, as I like to call them, Awmops!

  80. October 8, 2016 9:26 am

    Apparently police at Bathurst this weekend are on high alert for potential copy-cat speedo wearing.

    The horror!

  81. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 8, 2016 1:56 pm

    Without doubt, these culturally insensitive young men (below) went to private schools. It’s all just so typical of the sense of privilege that white male from private schools have!!

  82. October 8, 2016 2:34 pm

    “Normally such serious matters of power system engineering where people’s lives are potentially at risk are left to, well, the power system engineers.”

    They still are, Tristan. But anyone can comment on them, same as they comment on just about any other thing that makes the news.

  83. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 8, 2016 3:25 pm

    YEAH! Tom R is right!

    Why should anyone respect Hindus!

  84. October 8, 2016 5:33 pm

    By the way, Tristan. You’re no power system engineer, either, yet you eagerly finger lightning as the cause of the SA blackout.

    Critical thinking is not something you’re familiar with, evidently.

  85. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2016 1:50 pm

    Critical thinking is not something you’re familiar with, evidently.

    Actually yosy, it’s critical thinking he is applying, going on previous evidence.

    There is no previous evidence of wind farms just stopping for no reason, and the fact that lighting has a tendency to take out ANY form of power generation, which we know from previous experience. Couple that with the multitudes of lighting strikes which had already taken out gas generation in locations then …………..

    It’s kinda how critical thinking works. 😉

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