New Research confirms “Religious People” Struggle with Reality.

Looks like – TB the early years

(Ignorance is bliss?)

I tend to think there would be a lot more outrage from “the left” if the US or Israel was bombing Aleppo.

Really TB, I think we get a huge reaction for “the left” if Israel responds to some missiles, but there’s Russia, just bombing the crap out of civilians, and nothing from “the left”

I see… so it’s no use marching and protesting unless it’s our side dropping the bombs

Yep, the left went into a lather about Israel and wanted to boycott a chocolate shop or something, but Russia bombs the crap out of a civilian area….

CMFEU fined $4 million for protesting against Grocon. Grocon fined just $250K for killing three people through bad safety practices

Something very wrong with laws when this is the outcome ao.

Looking after business before people, it’s called priorities.

I would love to find out who the secret person was who was going to ‘save’ bob day? Did he have connections to the libs? After the story I read yesterday about the libs handing him almost $2million to fund about 20 building trades (in a pretty dodgy manner imo) then I wouldn’t put it past them. Anything so they can get their ABCC back to so they treat construction workers worse than criminals.

Did someone mention spivs and shonks?

The Abbott government approved Bob Day’s potentially unconstitutional office deal against the advice of its own bureaucrats, who raised specific concerns about his financial stake in the building.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/government-approved-bob-days-office-deal-despite-departmental-advice-not-to-20161102-gsg8rf.html

Just as a matter of interest I found THAT cartoon by Bill Leak offensive and confronting… but it was also very pointed.

I don’t think it should be illegal to draw/write that cartoon

Sucked shit!

Carlton & United Breweries facing ‘excessive’ costs from industrial dispute

http://www.afr.com/news/policy/industrial-relations/carlton–united-breweries-facing-excessive-costs-from-industrial-dispute-20161104-gshwxu

As an aside, I no longer drink Carlton Cold, I’ve gone back to our foreign owned local brew.

Yaaay Choice!

In fairness Leak also showed an Aboriginal policeman requesting responsibility from an Aboriginal parent.

It’s not as if there was an insinuation that it was whites reqesting it.
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Today I saw a house displaying a Trump flag. It was untouched by graffiti. I found that quite odd as i felt inclined to pop into a shop and purchase a can of spray paint.

Is, sb, becoming more irrational

perhaps yor just reading him more TB? 😉

depictinga rich mayor grafting millions to already well of whites while ignoring the underclass under his very nose

I’ve just had a look at a sample of his cartoons, and I’d suggest that he considers any subject suitable for his work. That’s what cartoonists do

I’ve never been to New Zealand. I think it is a place I’ll visit when I’m TB’s age.

Tom R thinks cartoons should be policed.

You’ll have to walk me through yer analysis there tosy.

As far as I’m concerned, dickheads can draw what they want, but they shouldn’t complain about being called dickheads for doing so. If they don’t want to be called dickheads, then maybe they should, of their own volition, reflect on what they are drawing.

Until then, they’ll continue to be called dickheads.

I see yomm reckons leak does a a wide variety of crap. But fails to highlight even one that might be considered supportive of Aborigines and the predicament they have been forced into.

ls everybody enjoying the teabag-panic as much as l am???

I get the feeling that they are more relieved he’s not going to be hammered as much as was earlier predicted. But then, he still might be. Here’s to hoping 🙂

Is there a formal protocol for removing Senators or MPs who become clinically insane while in office?

I think it’s pretty clear he left the plantation quite a while ago. But as to the question, this seems to fit this grubmints modus operandi 😉

In your world “being called dickheads” is the same as being called before the HRC to plead before Grand Inquisitor Triggs.

Again tosy, you’ll have to highlight from my comments what leads you to this belief?

Of course, IF he has a case to answer, he should. But then, I recall a couple of guys got in similar bother for drawing a guy copulating with a dog (and fair enough too, it went too far imo)

So please, are you able to back up your assertion?

Or will you do a yomm and just keep making them regardless?

Ergo, in his own words, Tom R thinks cartoons should be policed.

If you mean in the same way that EVERYTHING in the public sphere is policed, then yea.

You know, the same way the dog botherer ‘policed’ the chaser 😉

“Empirically” insane before he was “in office” …

fair point 🙂

FBI clears Hilary Clinton again.

What will the F***KWIT Trump have to say now? He should just F**K OFF!

“Sorry, link here”

Pity John Pissant failed to give any solid examples to back up his claims. Just his opinion dealt out as fact

In fact why didn’t Gillian soil her undies over it.

Something about ‘truth to power” rings true there.

But, if they had a problem, then perhaps they should have gone through the correct channels (you know, like 18c or something). But no, there were just summary sackings, based on ‘gut feeling’ and ‘all my friends say’.

Talk about ‘policing cartoonists’ We had execs as judge, jury and executioner there. No law, just ‘gut feeling’ and ‘all my friends say’. At least leak is given the opportunity to mount his defense. Mind you, still waiting to see him comment on the actual abuse at Don Dale, rather than ‘look over there’ ………

The thin argument “I’m offended” becomes an unbeatable trump card

See above, and reflect on ao’s comment about the RWNJ’s, and the insightful “guff” which was all you could manage.

“ROOF!”

Sorry ToSY I’m trying to work out what your comment might mean. Is it something to do with this ………..?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=roofing

(Sorry, link here: Traditional Rights and Freedoms—Encroachments by Commonwealth Laws (ALRC Report 129)

Sorry, link here: PRIOR v QUEENSLAND UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY & ORS )

And back on ‘message’ with leak

It is completely impossible to explain to thick-witted, dumb reptiles of the Shanahan kind that after a couple of centuries of enduring black bashing, more even black bashing, dressed up in the guise of “truth telling” remains, at its ignoble heart, black bashing …

“A message? A valid argument? Just draw a cartoon that’s funny. Messages are for Western Union. If you’ve got a message, send a telegram. Or write a leaden column for the reptile Oz. If the Oreo and the fundamentalist Catholic can do it, anyone can.”

Dorothy gets the reptiles in the pond, and loons the perfect descriptor

http://loonpond.blogspot.com.au/2016/11/please-wont-someone-end-reptile.html#.WCCmz_l_eUk

I still don’t know which cartoon comic you’re talking about.
LOLL!

Yea, cos reading back is so difficult for some.

Here’s a hint

In fact why didn’t Gillian soil her undies over it.

(you know, the comment I was responding to)

It is a bit rich for Lying Mongrel Triggs to accuse Turnbull of being misleading.

So does the fact that she was badgered into saying something she very quickly corrected excuse the lolstrayan and turnbull for making shit up (and not correcting the record)

http://www.budget.gov.au/2012-13/content/speech/html/speech.htm

The four years of surpluses I announce tonight are a powerful endorsement of the strength of our economy, resilience of our people, and success of our policies.

Wayne Swan 8/5/2012

Its pretty clear that Triggs is a serial liar

7:30 Report last night.

Triggs to Leigh Sales………………

“On that particular matter … what we did was do what we normally do which is investigate the facts, get a sense of what each of the parties is saying and then attempt to conciliate the matter….“And in good faith we tried for 13 or 14 months. I think this one was difficult because the parties took different points of view. There were a number of students that had said different things and so the issues in relation to each of them was different.”

From Calum Thwaites one of the students

“They never had any contact with us. I never received one piece of correspondence from the commission. There is absolutely no truth in what she said about that last night on 7.30 and to Fairfax Media. She was claiming that the students were being consulted from the start by the commission and that there was this ‘good faith’ dialogue but that is completely false.

facts, they seem to be a moving feast don’t they 😉

However, the Herald later took a harder line and informed Carlton he was suspended from writing his weekly column for four to six weeks. Carlton resigned immediately.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/aug/06/sydney-morning-heralds-mike-carlton-resigns-over-gaza-column-reaction

“You’ll have to highlight where she said that, as here actual words are…..”

Why dont we start right here…………..

“So the first obligation is to accept the complaint and then to investigate it and conciliate it.

So what does the word “conciliate” mean in your World ?

Good

Labor will vote against the Turnbull government’s lifetime ban on refugees and asylum seekers who arrive by boat from entering Australia, casting doubt on whether the controversial plan can pass the Parliament.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/labor-to-vote-against-turnbull-governments-lifetime-refugee-visa-ban-20161108-gskaup.html

by mis-quoting her

fixed it wally 😉

which is investigate the facts, get a sense of what each of the parties is saying and then attempt to conciliate the matter.

How long did that take?

She also specifically mentioned that at least one student they were unable to contact for a period of time.

She spoke in sentences wally, but the lolstrayan cherry picks a section here, and a section there, and creates an accusation out of that, ignoring the actual content of what she is saying.

They’ve been shown to be wrong previously in regards to Triggs doing exactly the same thing before.

One of the problems with 18c and the HRC (in my opinion) is that it encourages conciliation based on the payment of money.

On the other hand, and equivalent mechanism in the Fair Work Commission – about settling claims of bullying, specifically excludes conciliation about payment.

This means that the parties have to deal with the behaviour, and corrective actions, and can’t just claim and argue about “go away money”

I think this model should be introduced into the HRC proceedings, and if a party seeks actual damages – take it to an actual court.

Well, I think the HRC will conciliate about money during their conciliation process, whereas the Fair Work Commission is specifically prevented from that during conciliation and arbitration about bullying.

HRC should only be able to conciliate about the behaviour and corrective actions (such as statements).

The availability of conciliation about money just encourages claims that lack substance.

…but this QUT case demonstrates that the review of 18c is warranted.

(I think this model should be introduced into the HRC proceedings, and if a party seeks actual damages – take it to an actual court.

A bit like the Federal Circuit Court? Where it could still be sent to conciliation, once an action was effectively commenced, at the time that it was effectively commenced? And primary respondents could be made responsible for notifying secondary respondents, and at relatively short notice? And such a court could entertain joint-and-several matters, not just the very special 18C sub-component which preoccupies the kiddies, in what could still be a live and ongoing case, despite journalisms to the contrary?

Nah, because the OZ’s OTT beatup/Morris QC’s latest, if not greatest, cheaptalk, especially concerning the AHRC/Triggs, would be seen through instantly, for the BS it is.

(Particularly since young and aggrieved Calum apparently has provided a Stat. Dec. stating on oath that someone other than his goodself must have commandeered his Facebook account to post text which was published (on a QUT affiliated? Facebook page) of a kind which an interested observer may have supposed might have lent some substance to a certain aspect of Prior’s more involved and more extensive (workplace?) complaint(s); and since a court has accepted that Stat. Dec. and has determined that Prior or Prior’s representatives provided no evidence to the contrary in response to application(s) for summary dismissal(s), and effective severance of some of those secondary parties, but, significantly, not application(s) for summary judgement, the only real person left who could potentially be being defamed, per Morris QC’s looming legal threat, as reported today by Hedley Thomas, by implication, is Mr/Ms Nobody.)

Or, without the OZ’s half-arsed reporting and OTT campaigning, one might almost have some chance of working out what a rather unexciting piece of (in)judicious administrivia might be about.)

Thomas has reported matters accurately

yea, he’s got such an exemplary history of that doesn’t he. AWU and Gillard ring a bell?

AO – I’m not aware that the students involved in this case were liberal party members. Were they?

he suggested that people take some personal responsibility.

Unless of course you work at Don Dale it seems.

i can’t wait to see Trump make a total tool of himself by either –
* declining to concede, or
* conceding in his self righteous, pompous COMPLETE F***WIT manner!

(The HRC should be required to apply the same standard and prevent this crap that is just based on go away money.

I was vaguely under the impression that go-away/money was why so much of the ‘efficient administration of justice’ was devolved to conciliation/mediation as the dispute resolution mechanism of (almost mandatory) first resort; even the Federal Circuit Court appears to reflect a bit of informal ‘compromise’; so what, exactly, would make one think that the court(s), and/or the governments and/or the taxpayers underwriting any such ad hoc intuitions, would want to be first in line for being subject/ed to clogging with/in even a relatively small number of the thousands of complaints/cases, typically involving relatively uncontroversial matters and relatively insignificant quanta, which parties usually can, and very often do, resolve among themselves, with a bit of non-arbitral prompting; unless the instant cross-jurisdictional cross-fertilisation is apt to spawn new and much-increased-but-(in?)appropriately-delimited powers for the Star Chamber so-called (by some) and prospect of enhanced concurrent/consequent jurisdictional exposure(s)? Particularly when the apparent cause for the good idea involves a singular case in which, thus far, an actual judge has specifically declined a clear opportunity to deem ‘this crap’ as being ‘crap’, aka frivolous or vexatious, and the matter appears to involve relief being sought for loss of wages, aka money, among other reliefs which have, or might (have) be(en) sought, which claim(s) wouldn’t necessarily disappear, or not at least without (being seen to be) running foul of equitable notions about wrongs having remedies, or necessarily become abandoned, possibly, and probably, merely diverted, or, and better yet, duplicated/dispersed/fragmented among and between fora.)

Trump remains a F***WIT!

(Prepare to be Drained!!!! (-:

Guilty confession: part of me has secretly been hoping that Joe Wurzelbacher‘s dream finally comes true, and that the Trump Truck Competition really pays off; but only because I’m a bit of a fan of Vermin, err, Beef Supreme.)

lol

Just wondering, if any yanks try to get here by boat………………??

Blame the media????

Strange thing is i think Clinton is for free trade and open borders. Trump wants to build a wall and look after American workers.