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November 15, 2016

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President-elect Donald Trump has given his first televised interview since winning the electoral vote – sitting on a gold throne.

CBS correspondent (and woman) Lesley Stahl was sent to interview Mr ‘Man of the People’ Trump at his penthouse in Trump Tower.

Rather unfortunately for his populist, down to earth, standing-up-for-the-little-guy rhetoric – already demonstrably ridiculous coming from a billionaire reality TV star – he and his family chose to appear seated on a set of bizarre golden thrones.

While the gold thrones were distracting, it’s also worth noting what we actually learned from the interview itself.

Stahl questioned Trump on many of his most notorious campaign pledges, and he appeared to backtrack on several major issues.

For example, he will not be appointing a special prosecutor to investigate the Clintons. He says they are “good people” who he “doesn’t want to hurt”, which is somewhat of a change in tack from calling Hillary a “nasty woman” and Bill a rapist.

Stahl asked Trump again whether he would be releasing his tax returns. His response?

“The only one who cares is, you know, you and a few people that asked that question. Obviously, the public didn’t care because I won the election very easily.”

(Actually, Trump lost the popular vote by a margin of over one million people.)

Stahl also pointed out to Trump that he had, in the past, criticised lobbyists for “owning politicians because they give them money”.

His current transition team is a panel of lobbyists, with a few of his older children thrown in for good measure – who owe him everything.

Stahl pressed him on his plans to deport millions of immigrants from the country, and build a wall to stop others entering.

He was then joined by his Slovenian-born wife, Melania.

Melania reiterated that her cause of choice would probably be campaigning against bullying on social media.

Her husband’s has, to date, directly insulted almost 300 people and indirectly offended millions with his astonishingly inappropriate tweeting.

Trump said again: “We’re going to knock out Isis.”

Stahl replied: “Now, how are you going to do that?”

Trump snapped: “I don’t tell you that. […]

Why do I have to tell you that? […]

I don’t want to tell anybody anything.”

Ms Stahl summarised the interview by saying “some of his signature issues at the heart of his campaign were not meant to be taken literally, but as opening bids for negotiation.”

That ever-so-subtle distinction appears to have been lost on his voters.

Source: Indy100

 

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  1. November 15, 2016 5:42 pm

    Trump said again: “We’re going to knock out Isis.”

    Stahl replied: “Now, how are you going to do that?”

    Trump snapped: “I don’t tell you that. […]

    Why do I have to tell you that? […]

    I don’t want to tell anybody anything.”

    I couldn’t help wondering why Indy100 used those ellipses […]. Were they just saving space, or were they witholding information from the reader? So I went to the transcript.

    Lesley Stahl: You have said that you’re gonna destroy ISIS. Now, how are you going to?

    Donald Trump: I don’t tell you that. I don’t tell you that.

    Lesley Stahl: Yeah, but what can —

    Donald Trump: I’m not like the people going in right now and fighting Mosul and they announced it four months before they went into Mosul and everybody now is — it’s a tough fight because, number one, the people from the –leaders of ISIS have left. What do you– why do I have to tell you that?

    Lesley Stahl: Troops on the ground?

    Donald Trump: I’m not gonna say anything. I don’t want to tell them anything. I don’t want to tell anybody anything.

    Indy100 is part of the left-leaning Independent, apparently. As usual, they’re campaigning, not reporting.

  2. November 15, 2016 6:05 pm

    (Actually, Trump lost the popular vote by a margin of over one million people.)

    But in the actual elections, it’s a sea of red. Read ’em and weep, lady.

  3. November 15, 2016 6:20 pm

    “”As usual, they’re campaigning, not reporting.””

    Unlike the right-leaning NewsCorpse of course, which can be relied upon for its unwavering unbiased and objective reporting..

    ROFLO!

  4. November 15, 2016 6:23 pm

    “Why celebrity endorsements didn’t help Hillary at all”

    http://pagesix.com/2016/11/12/why-celebrity-endorsements-didnt-help-hillary-at-all/

    FLOORMOP!

  5. November 15, 2016 6:24 pm

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  6. November 15, 2016 6:36 pm

    “Unlike the right-leaning NewsCorpse of course”

    True, but the Independent is still campaigning – after the election. I suppose they just can’t work out how their candidate lost.

  7. November 15, 2016 6:41 pm

    “”but the Independent is still campaigning – after the election””

    Hint: The interview happened after the election..

  8. November 15, 2016 6:44 pm

    “Hint: The interview happened after the election..”

    Yes. And they used selective editing to try and paint Trump in a bad light. After the interview.

  9. November 15, 2016 6:52 pm

    “they used selective editing to try and paint Trump in a bad light”

    Yeah! It’s all the media’s fault!

  10. November 15, 2016 6:55 pm

    Whatever.

  11. November 15, 2016 7:04 pm

    pssst reb-a-roo! l saw the interview on sbs/AJ/F24 before it was shown on the network. The braying-media above have mangled the story, and made it fact-free, but don`t tell the pinkists. There is an out-break of canberra-panic at the moment over work visas, ponzi-jobs and ponzi unemployment numbers. The arse-end of 2016 is looking good for big-bad-bagz predictions, for cheer squads and braying-media, not-so much! lt seems the `rba` is joining me and `roy` on ponzi unemployment numbers. Just don`t tell the teabags. #end.of.whisper

  12. November 15, 2016 7:16 pm

    “The braying-media above have mangled the story, and made it fact-free”

    Really. I watched the interview too. And the words came out of Trump’s mouth.

    Not sure how that makes it “fact-free”.

  13. November 15, 2016 7:32 pm

    psst, it becomes fact-free (advertising) when edits deceive the viewer on the `context` and/or `topic`

  14. TB Queensland permalink
    November 15, 2016 7:48 pm

    Fuck how morons warble bullshit … and in the end when the bomb hits them they say … “I had no idea!”

    Well … BOOM! Morons … so fucking frightening its sickening …

    How To Cheat The People And Fool Your Followers 101 …

  15. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 15, 2016 7:57 pm

    Fortunately we can now stop worrying about any media bias, because the election of Trump proves a biased media has absolutely no bearing on the outcome of the election!

  16. November 15, 2016 8:10 pm

    “Well … BOOM! Morons … so fucking frightening its sickening …”

    Someone needs to have a powder and a lie down.

    BEX!

  17. November 15, 2016 8:33 pm

    l saw a cracker of a yarn on one of the foreign/abc24 shows last night about the-ronald victory, save-the-swampers were blaming facebook.

  18. TB Queensland permalink
    November 15, 2016 10:26 pm

    Someone needs to have a powder and a lie down.

    Off ya go then …

    ZZZZZ!

  19. November 15, 2016 11:48 pm

    proves,,,,a biased media has absolutely no,,,, #chuckle

    # ,, Proves that a know nothing braying-media `can` be played like a fiddle.

    # ,, You know how it is. (-;

  20. November 16, 2016 7:25 am

    When women are lining up for long-term contraception in a mournful, pragmatic farewell to their reproductive autonomy; when the chief strategist is accused of enabling racism and antisemitism; when the vice-president-elect signed legislation requiring women to hold and pay for funerals for miscarried foetuses; when the president-elect has vowed to deport three million immigrants; when he has at least 12 allegations of sexual misconduct outstanding against him; when he has announced a cabinet that includes his own three children: this looks nothing like a democracy. It looks nothing like reconciliation. It looks despotic, inflammatory, extreme and violent: it looks, in short, exactly as Trump promised it would look, as he campaigned on a pledge to imprison his opponent. His adversaries respond that he probably doesn’t mean what he says, a position for which there is precisely no evidence. Their desire to normalise has put them in the fantastical state of seeing the forthcoming presidency as they wish it, and not as it plainly is.

    But, but, but it’s the media’s fault…!!!

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/15/dangerous-fantasy-donald-trump-normalisation-us-president-elect-barbarism

  21. November 16, 2016 8:46 am

    “when the president-elect has vowed to deport three million immigrants”

    Gee, that sounds like a lot.

    MEDIA!

  22. November 16, 2016 9:24 am

    “when the chief strategist is accused of enabling racism and antisemitism”

    Accused, you say? Interesting.

  23. armchair opinionator permalink
    November 16, 2016 9:28 am

    You can be the first lady of the US, but if you’re black…

    Michelle Obama ‘ape in heels’ post causes outrage
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37985967

    Of course none of this happens in the white community, only minorities and blacks

  24. Walrus permalink
    November 16, 2016 9:29 am

    “Fuck how morons warble bullshit … and in the end when the bomb hits them they say … “I had no idea!” ………….”

    Listen up you pack of intolerant moronic Leftist c*nts…………………….

    Apparently it’s World Tolerance Day so stick your failed Leftist moronic ideas up ya collective arses just for one day

  25. November 16, 2016 9:38 am

    “when the vice-president-elect signed legislation requiring women to hold and pay for funerals for miscarried foetuses”

    Not exactly.

    Pence did sign a law that requires fetuses to be “cremated or interred,” so it would be accurate to say that the law requires funerary services for any aborted or miscarried fetus “irrespective of gestational age or duration of pregnancy.”

    But the law also states that the health care facility that has “possession” of the fetus is responsible for the burial or cremation, and the parents are only liable for costs associated with the burial or cremation if they choose a location and method other than what the facility normally uses. Also, the law says that fetuses younger than 20 weeks can be cremated in bunches, and the law also specifies that you don’t have to name your miscarried or aborted fetus.

  26. shaneinqld permalink
    November 16, 2016 9:39 am

    Our illustrious government claims we are broke and have to tighten our belt. While sacking staff at the ATO and many other departments it has generously given all cross bench senators an extra 3 staff. An increase from 4 to seven for each of them. An increase of 75% in staff. One Nation now has 28 staff. This smacks so disgustingly of political opportunism to persuade the senators to vote in favour of LNP policy. How on earth an MP needs 7 staff is beyond me. What a despicable waste of money. Pauline Hanson who screeches hysterically about our debt and government interference, is totally silent on this and happily takes the money.. Just shows the morals and standards of the woman who I was prepared to give a fair hearing to. They all make me sick.

  27. November 16, 2016 9:40 am

    Oops.

  28. TB Queensland permalink
    November 16, 2016 9:41 am

    This about sums it up here too …

    Some Republicans who previously ostracised Trump are returning to the fold but not always with success. Eliot Cohen, a senior state department official under George W Bush, launched a stinging attack on the transition effort. He tweeted:

    “After exchange [with] Trump transition team, changed my recommendation: stay away. They’re angry, arrogant, screaming ‘you LOST!’ Will be ugly.”

    If I recall the same could be said for TurnAbbott’s “landslide” victory too … strange how the “winners” get all angry, aggressive and possessive …

    Assad was “democratically” elected too … just like his father and brother …

    And nepotism has already reared its ugly head in Trump Towers … bit like a medieval Robber Baron fortress, hey?

  29. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 16, 2016 9:51 am

    Trump was clearly democratically elected, and comparing the US electoral system to Assad’s Syria is just ignorance. TB just has some prejudices about the outcomes of democracy

    As for Tim Dunlop’s article, he neglects to point out that Trump is protectionist and interventionist like the Greens. And Pauline Hanson

  30. November 16, 2016 9:55 am

    “when he has announced a cabinet that includes his own three children: this looks nothing like a democracy.”

    This is like shooting fish in a barrel. Trump had not announced his cabinet when that Guardian article was published, and – as of 9:55 AEST, still hasn’t. (Let alone naming three of his children.).

    ROLO!

  31. November 16, 2016 10:07 am

    “When women are lining up for long-term contraception in a mournful, pragmatic farewell to their reproductive autonomy”

    A “mournful, pragmatic farewell to their reproductive autonomy”? (What on earth has this got to do with Trump, anyway?}

    The share of American women on birth control who use long-acting reversible methods like intrauterine devices and implants has nearly doubled in recent years, the federal government reported Tuesday.

    The share of women on birth control who use the devices rose to 11.6 percent in the period from 2011 to 2013, up from 6 percent in 2006 to 2010, according to the National Center for Health Statistics. The share is still smaller than for the pill (26 percent) or condoms (15 percent), but it is the fastest-growing method. In 2002, just 2.4 percent of women on birth control in the United States used the long-acting methods.

    Women’s health advocates say long-acting birth control is giving American women more say over when — and with whom — they have children. About half of the 6.6 million pregnancies a year in the United States are unintended, and health experts contend that broader use of long-acting methods could help reduce that number, because the methods work better than other types.

  32. November 16, 2016 10:29 am

    So theoretically, if the Trump children were willing to give up a salary, they might be able to get by. On Sunday night’s ’60 Minutes,’ Trump told Lesley Stahl that he would not take a salary as president.

    So, what could happen if Trump did it anyway?

    “While it’s true that the penalty for violation of the statute is just to withhold salary or other financial remuneration from the wrongfully appointed employee, there’s also the possibility that any action taken by such a wrongfully appointed employee could be subject to legal challenge and potentially even be voidable,” Steve Vladeck, professor of law at the University of Texas School of Law told CNN.

  33. TB Queensland permalink
    November 16, 2016 10:33 am

    TB just has some prejudices about the outcomes of democracy

    That’s ludicrous outcomes … we’re not all well balanced like ToM …

    BOO!

  34. TB Queensland permalink
    November 16, 2016 10:34 am

    This is like shooting fish in a barrel. Trump had not announced his cabinet when that Guardian article was published, and – as of 9:55 AEST, still hasn’t. (Let alone naming three of his children.).

    Bet on it, he will!

    POP!

  35. TB Queensland permalink
    November 16, 2016 10:37 am

    On Sunday night’s ’60 Minutes,’ Trump told Lesley Stahl that he would not take a salary as president.

    But he will … $1 apparently … but its the perks and control and power that he wants … not a measly $400K … shimples is as shimples be …

    GOES!

  36. TB Queensland permalink
    November 16, 2016 10:40 am

    A “mournful, pragmatic farewell to their reproductive autonomy”? (What on earth has this got to do with Trump, anyway?}

    Jesus Christ, ToSY, its about the mindset of the people Trump surrounds himself with and the decisions they will make …

    Just like the Catholic Church acolytes in the TurnAbbott government … back to the earth is flat and the centre of the universe teachings of the Vatican …

    Although wars amongst Catholic states in that period of “enlightenment” did have to be ratified by the then Pope …

  37. November 16, 2016 10:52 am

    “Bet on it, he will!”

    You won’t be surprised that I’m not taking betting advice from you.

    The betting markets say it’s unlikely.

    Ivanka Trump for Secretary of State $26.

    Donald Trump Jr for Defense Secretary $51.

    There are no prices for Eric Trump or Jared Kushner

  38. November 16, 2016 10:57 am

    “Jesus Christ, ToSY, its about the mindset of the people Trump surrounds himself with and the decisions they will make …”

    GUFFAW!

    So all those women who – since 2006 – have been increasingly using reversible, long-acting birth control were all predicting a Trump Presidency.

    That’s fucking stupid, even from you.

  39. Walrus permalink
    November 16, 2016 11:11 am

    “That’s fucking stupid, even from you”

    It’s……………………………

    Even if they are chronically Stupid

  40. November 16, 2016 11:15 am

    “World Tolerance Day”

    Does that include intolerant bigots?

    TOLERATE!

  41. Walrus permalink
    November 16, 2016 11:22 am

    “Does that include intolerant bigots?”

    Too late for that…………………….

  42. November 16, 2016 11:41 am

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  43. November 16, 2016 11:51 am

    JOBSON GROWTHE….!!!

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  44. TB Queensland permalink
    November 16, 2016 12:37 pm

    That’s fucking stupid, even from you.

    You meant … that’s fucking stupid, even from you.

    You said that I didn’t … picking up bad habits, making shyte up …

    you were doing so well …

    THE!

  45. TB Queensland permalink
    November 16, 2016 12:45 pm

    JOBSON GROWTHE….!!!

    Yep, there’s political rhetoric … then there’s out and out incompetence and lying …

    What’s disturbing is how the majority of people (admittedly a small majority) are lulled into such a false sense of security … by “business” people (I’m not a politician ~ D. Trump … Like Mr Trump, I’m a “business” man ~ Malfunction TurnAbbott …)

    And its the people who voted in the “businessmen” … who’ll get screwed!

    Karma?

    WEASEL!

  46. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 16, 2016 1:58 pm

    YEAH!!! Who could possibly disagree with TB?

    Things were much better when we had long serving politicians taking it in turns to be Prime Minister! Those were the days!

  47. November 16, 2016 1:58 pm

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  48. November 16, 2016 2:28 pm

    “you were doing so well …”

    I was, wasn’t I?. I don’t think there’s any doubt who won the interwebs this morning.

    LOLLZZ.

  49. November 16, 2016 4:09 pm

    Fresh.

    ,

    Before.

  50. armchair opinionator permalink
    November 16, 2016 5:00 pm

  51. November 16, 2016 5:40 pm

    You`re comparison of the-ronald and talkbull is wrong teebz. You won`t see the-ronald filling a fiber network with copper and strut around calling it an `achievement`. You also won`t see the-ronald trotting-off to asia meetings to try and convince s-korea and singapore business to relocate their tech behind his great wall of copper.

    On the political, talkbull barely dragged his judgement-free arse over the line, with added senate losses, despite the swooning of braying-media. The-ronald not only got himself solidly over the line, he also dragged over the line a slew of senate, house, governers and other teabags despite their own stupidity and braying of braying-media.

  52. TB Queensland permalink
    November 16, 2016 7:12 pm

    Things were much better when we had long serving politicians taking it in turns to be Prime Minister! Those were the days!

    WTF! You said that … not me … what is it with you lot? You read so much into other people’s comments I don’t think you actually comprehend even half of ’em … either that or its twisting around in yer mind … what’s astounding is that you and the other RWNJs here have been reading my comments for over a decade and still make shit up!

    Absolutelyfkastounding.

    And especially for the kindergarten kid … WOOF! WOOF!

  53. TB Queensland permalink
    November 16, 2016 7:14 pm

    I was, wasn’t I?. I don’t think there’s any doubt who won the interwebs this morning.

    Well that was a short concession speech but I accept … thanks …

  54. TB Queensland permalink
    November 16, 2016 7:21 pm

    I could go on … and I will because there is a long list of issues where government inaction is widening the inequality gap and ignoring the needs of Australian workers.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/16/confecting-a-moral-panic-around-18c-is-easier-than-solving-our-real-problems?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    JOBSON GROWTHE at play …

  55. TB Queensland permalink
    November 16, 2016 7:27 pm

    You`re comparison of the-ronald and talkbull is wrong teebz. You won`t see the-ronald filling a fiber network with copper and strut around calling it an `achievement`. You also won`t see the-ronald trotting-off to asia

    You’re so wise and obviously informed, tbagz, what will we see from Donald McTramp … ?

    The-ronald not only got himself solidly over the line, he also dragged over the line a slew of senate, house, governers and other teabags despite their own stupidity and braying of braying-media.

    Yo a DonnyTramp fanboi, boy? 🙄 Ho Ho!

  56. November 16, 2016 7:33 pm

    “Well that was a short concession speech but I accept … thanks …”

    LULL!

  57. TB Queensland permalink
    November 16, 2016 7:56 pm

    Nah!

    LOL! Keep trying. 🙂

  58. November 16, 2016 8:01 pm

    Yeah! We should all just forget that Trump has proven himself to be a racist, misogynistic cunt by his.very.own.words.

    Doesn’t everyone deserve a second chance?

    (Even though he hasn’t actually asked for it).

    But hey, let’s give him the benefit of the doubt..

    🙄

  59. November 16, 2016 8:08 pm

    Too right. Or as the talking heads say: absolutely!

  60. November 16, 2016 8:09 pm

    who,,,,won the interwebs this,,,, last 3-days #hint tinfoil`osy did

    ,

    obviously,,,,informed, tbagz, what will we see,,,,

    # ,, nobody will really know until 20-Jan (mainly braying until then)

    ,

    a,,,,DonnyTramp fanboi,,,,

    # ,, even with jooliar, talkbull, rabbit, l always try to give`em a go and let them `earn` my like/dislike

    ,

    # ,, Quite some time ago l commented somewhere(here? coffee2?) that on the way in teh-west, both politicians and media behaved, l said at the time something along the lines of, lying politicians (and blind-media allowing them) go about corralling herds of imbeciles using nonsense statements, that sooner or later, somebody would be smart enough to rustle `both` teams herds of imbeciles ,, DA-DAA! #ages.ago

  61. TB Queensland permalink
    November 16, 2016 9:16 pm

    Too right. Or as the talking heads say: absolutely!

    Gotta …

    LINK?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    who,,,,won the interwebs this,,,, last 3-days #hint tinfoil`osy did

    Pickin’ sides, tbagz, how unyou …

    a,,,,DonnyTramp fanboi,,,,

    Ahhh … so revealing …

    # ,, even with jooliar, talkbull, rabbit, l always try to give`em a go and let them `earn` my like/dislike

    How average …

    Tramp “earned” my dislike long before he ran for POTUS … the prick is a Robber Baron of the first degree! Long Live the King as he rips us off and sends us to war, rapes and pillages while we’re away!

    Peasants never seem to learn …

    POTUS … FMD … is that the best the US can do … we are all in deep shit!

    Welcome to the Dark Ages 2.0 …

    None so blind …

    All these comments are now saved for posterity (maybe) be interesting to re-visit in 12 months …

  62. November 16, 2016 9:43 pm

    Hey teebz, l was watching all the repug primaries, were you??? The-ronald has played braying-media like a banjo from the start, and l realized this early in the teabag primaries. l am not at all surprised he ended-up winning. You may have even noticed on election-day l posted `prepare to be drained`. l left various other comments along the way, but you lot didn`t seem interested beyond `cheer-squading`.

  63. armchair opinionator permalink
    November 16, 2016 11:24 pm

    The controversial French satirical magazine, Charlie Hebdo weighed in on the Republican’s victory, and the artists, as usual, pulled no punches.
    https://www.indy100.com/article/charlie-hebdo-donald-trump-barack-obama-7418526

    …Obama—an ordinary citizen once again.

    It depicts a fearful Obama running away from two white police officers shooting. A burst of bullets surround him.

    The white supremacist group, the Ku Klux Klan endorsed Trump’s presidency, and racially motivated incidents in the US have increased since the election…

  64. TB Queensland permalink
    November 16, 2016 11:59 pm

    … but you lot didn`t seem interested beyond `cheer-squading`.

    Cheer-squading …? I would have said the same about Herr Hitler and Comrade Stalin … Trump isn’t interested in running a country for “the people” – they were conned … politics is not the issue but the lying, cheating and deception to gain power … (apart from the fact that he’s a nasty piece of work) … Trump took politicking to new heights of disgust for me …

    I wait with interest at the blunders, gaffes, and dangerous decisions to come out of a lopsided Congress and WH … if a boat tips to far one way it’ll sink very quickly … especially if it has an incompetent captain …

  65. November 17, 2016 1:20 am

    Take a look at your `own` comment, all the frightener-finding and pre-squirting before 20-Jan, seems like cheer-squading to me. l know, it`s all very frightening, a democratically elected leader being democratically elected. Hold on to your pussy. l won`t be surprised if sometime in the future, it turns out that the pussy grabbing video was re-dubbed the week before it was released/leaked to braying-media. The-ronald played the brayiny-media brilliantly, starting at the teabag primaries. Would you be pants-cacking so spontaneously if the-ronald had produced the identical result for the democats????

  66. Walrus permalink
    November 17, 2016 9:59 am

    “It depicts a fearful Obama running away from two white police officers shooting. A burst of bullets surround him.”

    If I was a white French police officer I’d be sooooooooooooooooo offended and hurt by that cartoon.

    If only they had an 18c I’d be able to do something about it.

  67. TB Queensland permalink
    November 17, 2016 10:17 am

    Would you be pants-cacking so spontaneously if the-ronald had produced the identical result for the democats????

    Its about the PERSON not the POLITICS … I repeat … he’s a nasty piece of work …

    Turnbull said all the right things … and then morphed into TurnAbbott … and Abbott is a nasty piece of work too … I have no time for Gillard OR Rudd as people …

    Let’s see what transpires over the next twelve months … as usual it won’t affect me at all … just the 50% …

  68. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 17, 2016 11:37 am

    What I like is the moderate and civilised demeanour of Hillary supporters:

    I dare say it is Bill Clinton holding the sign.

  69. TB Queensland permalink
    November 17, 2016 12:02 pm

    I dare say it is Bill Clinton holding the sign.

    Talk about moderate and civilised … pot kettle etc … 😀

    LOL!

  70. November 17, 2016 12:19 pm

    HAWHAW!

  71. Walrus permalink
    November 17, 2016 12:40 pm

    Apparently the Secret Service is very happy to see the back of Michelle Obama.

    Supposedly a total bitch

  72. November 17, 2016 3:35 pm

    Its,,,,about the PERSON not the POLITICS,,,,

    # ,, No, not always teebz. l think things/topics are playing the biggest part now-a days. Take brexit, surely the rust-belters of britannia being arse-fcuked under their system, are probably being fcuked-over with `excuses` of `eu-responibilities`. ln short, a london/eu `blame-game` from the-uk latte-belt, is probably very similar to our `federal/state/s `blame-game` from our latte-belt, which most aussies don`t like.

    # ,, Last night l saw mike-moores clip on the news of, the-ronald in the rust-belt telling rustbelters he would bring `needed-change` for them and crooked hilary is just more(rust) of the same. l agree with this part of mike-moores opinion/write-up, even tho l didn`t see it at the time, l did see the-ronald pound the other 16-teabags with exactly the same argument 4-or 5-times during the primaries.

    # ,, it was all about up-ending the latte-belt and getting the rust-belt heard, which have been ignored by both teams for decades

  73. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 17, 2016 3:49 pm

    I think Trump won because the USA lost control of its borders. They are getting 15,000 people/month crossing the Rio Grande. The Poms left the EU because they are getting swamped by the Eastern Europeans.

  74. November 17, 2016 3:57 pm

    >From memory, from various TV autopsies, some data you lot might like to check,

    # ,, bernies team didn`t folow-hilary, as predicted, most stayed-home, more went to the-ronald

    # ,, 87%? of rust-belt, reason for vote, `bring-much needed change`

    # ,, hilary `did` get the college latte-belt women, the-ronald got the `rust` of them

  75. November 17, 2016 6:17 pm

    and,,,,part of a long-term pattern of the ABS retreating from its confidence in the (#own)data,,,,

    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/face-it-australias-monthly-jobs-data-is-a-mess-and-treasurer-scott-morrison-needs-to-do-something-about-it-2016-10

    ,,,,More than 50,000 full-time positions were lost,,,,

    ,,,,But the ABS itself is putting asterisks on the data, saying, well, we`re not really sure about this,,,,

    # ,, shhh, don`t tell the teabags (-: (-: (-: (-:

  76. TB Queensland permalink
    November 17, 2016 8:22 pm

    HAWHAW!

    Supposedly a total bitch

    er, your lot won???

    Tolerance day must be over then?

  77. Americans First permalink
    November 18, 2016 4:27 am

    (“When people feel themselves powerless, out of control of their own lives, and fearful for themselves and their loved ones, it is all too easy to convert that sense of panic and impotence into blame, and the “othering” of outsider groups: immigrants, racial minorities, women. They have taken our jobs.”
    Anger, Disgust, Fear: Powerlessness and the Politics of Blame, by Martha Nussbaum)

  78. TB Queensland permalink
    November 18, 2016 10:26 am

    Australia is now paying for mistakes the former prime minister Malcolm Fraser made in letting certain people into the country, Peter Dutton says.

    The immigration minister said many foreign fighters getting involved in conflict zones were the children or grandchildren of migrants who came during the 1970s.

    “The reality is Malcolm Fraser did make mistakes in bringing some people in the 1970s and we’re seeing that today,” Dutton told Sky News on Thursday. “We need to be honest in having that discussion. There was a mistake made.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/nov/18/australia-paying-for-immigration-mistakes-made-by-malcolm-fraser-says-peter-dutton

    There was obviously a lot of mistakes made with immigration from 1776 onwards … and don’t forget the alien invasion at Uluru …

    Where does Dopey Dutton get all this shit from … the twit is obviously paranoid …

    If you can’t handle the heat get out of the fkn kitchen … always someone else’s fault! Blame, blame, blame …

  79. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 18, 2016 10:50 am

    Sometime TB, when you’re next in Melbourne, try walking along Victoria St Abbotsford, lots of great restaurants combined with very efficient drug distribution

  80. Walrus permalink
    November 18, 2016 1:03 pm

    ” lots of great restaurants combined with very efficient drug distribution”

    You could substitute Abbotsford any time for Lakemba in Sydney.

    Or should I say like the rest of Sydney does……..Lebkemba

    TB is as usual completely blind to the reality

  81. Walrus permalink
    November 18, 2016 1:04 pm

    Meanwhile at the National Workers Union………………

    “Disgraced former union leader Derrick Belan and his niece have been arrested on more than 170 fraud charges relating to misuse of hundreds of thousands of dollars in union money and for “participating in a criminal group”.”

    Read more: http://www.afr.com/news/policy/industrial-relations/former-nuw-boss-derrick-belan-faces-fraud-charges-20161117-gss69c#ixzz4QK2C7Yva
    Follow us: @FinancialReview on Twitter | financialreview on Facebook

  82. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 18, 2016 1:06 pm

    and,,,,part of a long-term pattern of the ABS retreating from its confidence in the (#own)data,,,

    Is that true? It is possible with the rise of blogs people are asking more questions and the data is being scrutinized more. I think Roy Morgan posts much higher results for unemployment using a protocol that would be different to the ABS.

  83. TB Queensland permalink
    November 18, 2016 2:17 pm

    TB is as usual completely blind to the reality

    To what? That only children and g/children of migrants from the 70’s deal and do drugs?

    … you are in your usual lalalal land … I see you think only union leaders are fraudulent too … I have no time for any fraudsters including banks, financial advisers, insurance companies and accountants – quite a few of them too …

    None so blind as cannot see … you can lead a person to thought but you can’t make ’em think … !

  84. November 18, 2016 2:17 pm

    (Or was it just `all too easy` to throw a big, fat, juicy `outrage` into the echo chamber each day and use braying-media against itself?)

    ,

    (And at home, everybody`s favorite tweet ,,,,Halfwits on my ABC wrongly blame,,,, is `still` in play too.)

  85. November 18, 2016 3:18 pm

    Did anybody else notice that reportland quietly ditched their `many-fluff` segments format and returned to the kerry-format of fewer-deeper and more investigative reports this week??? Looks like reportland production do not wish to remain in the braying echo chamber. l wonder how long it will last.

  86. Walrus permalink
    November 18, 2016 3:45 pm

    “I see you think only union leaders are fraudulent too …”

    Not at all….but I’ll rephrase that to ………………..

    You think only union leaders are above any requirement of greater transparency just as Companies currently are.

    As I said earlier TB is as usual completely blind to the reality

  87. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 18, 2016 3:55 pm

    Yes, one of the ABCC changes is to require unions to adopt governance rules similar to those of companies.

    TB thinks there should be more stringent governance requirements for companies, but thinks seeking the same standards for unions is somehow anti union!!

    Figure that out!

  88. Walrus permalink
    November 18, 2016 4:09 pm

    Yes ToM

    It’s anti corrupt Union leader and pro Union member.

    “Figure that out!”

    He can’t……………because as I said earlier TB is as usual completely blind to the reality.

    Actually quite delusional

  89. November 18, 2016 4:17 pm

    We should do all we can to crush the working class as fast and as hard as we can while letting the elite off scotch free. After all, what could happen.

  90. November 18, 2016 4:37 pm

    “scotch free”

    That counts me out.

  91. November 18, 2016 4:43 pm

    Well, good: “Europe is in danger of falling apart”

    (A small wager on Marine Le Pen for next French President might be in order.)

  92. TB Queensland permalink
    November 18, 2016 5:39 pm

    TB thinks there should be more stringent governance requirements for companies, but thinks seeking the same standards for unions is somehow anti union!!

    More made up shit, ToM … I actually believe any organisation dealing with money – private, government, charity, church, mosque, or tabernacle should have transparency …

    Stop attempting to write childish comedy scripts and ask questions (without your own answers) … wally, will end up on the floor having a fkn fit! (Well, a bigger fit than usual …)

    RWNJs corrupt anything – even blog comments …

  93. TB Queensland permalink
    November 18, 2016 5:45 pm

    BERLIN (Reuters) – The European Union is in danger of breaking apart unless France and Germany, in particular, work harder to stimulate growth and employment and heed citizens’ concerns, French Prime Minister Manuel Valls said in the German capital on Thursday.

    Valls said the two countries, for decades the axis around which the EU revolved, had to help refocus the bloc to tackle an immigration crisis, a lack of solidarity between member states, Britain’s looming exit, and terrorism.

    “Europe is in danger of falling apart,” Valls said at an event organized by the Sueddeutsche Zeitung newspaper. “So Germany and France have a huge responsibility.”

    He said France must continue to open up its economy, not least by cutting corporate taxation, while Germany and the EU as a whole must increase investment that would stimulate growth and job creation, as well as boosting defense

    CHORTLE!

    Same old trickle down mantra that has ceased to work for decades … like a scratchy old Tory record no-one listens to now …

  94. Walrus permalink
    November 18, 2016 5:50 pm

    So let me get this right. The Left thought the US election had something to do with how good the respective sides makeup department’s were???????????????

    Talk about deluded

    Caroline
    ‏@JamboR1989

    “Watching Hillary Clinton- makeup free yet elegant- speaking at the CDF broke my heart & resolved my resistance to Trump’s bigotry & hate.”

  95. Walrus permalink
    November 18, 2016 5:55 pm

    “… like a scratchy old Tory record no-one listens to now …”

    Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…………….he’s a member of the Socialist Party

    Did someone say TB is as usual completely blind to the reality ?

  96. Walrus permalink
    November 18, 2016 5:56 pm

    “I actually believe any organisation dealing with money – private, government, charity, church, mosque, or tabernacle should have transparency … ”

    I notice Unions don’t get a specific mention

  97. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 18, 2016 6:16 pm

    More made up shit, ToM …

    Then I must be imagining all the “Unions BOO!” comments you post in response to my suggestions about union governance

  98. November 18, 2016 6:19 pm

    “he’s a member of the Socialist Party”

    Yes, and even the Euro-socialists have been mugged by reality. If they don’t join in the bidding war and lower corporate tax rates, companies will go elsewhere. Australian government, take notice. (And just ignore the humourless TB Queensland. To him, it’s all about Tories and Robo Barrens.)

  99. November 18, 2016 6:43 pm

    Oops. I should add …

    ROLF!

  100. November 18, 2016 7:32 pm

    So far, Save-the-swampers have blamed the FBI, facebook, today google.

    Tomorrow they will blame this lot.

    http://www.metrolyrics.com/american-idiot-lyrics-green-day.html

  101. Tom R permalink
    November 19, 2016 9:32 am

    If they don’t join in the bidding war and lower corporate tax rates, companies will go elsewhere.

    You mean, like the Caymans?

    Oops. I should add …
    ROLF!

    Unnecessary tosy

    I get that as an automatic reaction when I read most of the posts here anyway 😉

  102. TB Queensland permalink
    November 19, 2016 9:49 am

    “I notice Unions don’t get a specific mention … ”

    Including unions … “”I have no time for any fraudsters “” … you can “read between the lines” when it suits you to make shit up … or your comprehension level is even worse than I thought …

    Nor did I say … especially accountants and financial advisers … preying on the hard work of other people … like fraudulent UNION ORGANISERS!

    FMD how desperate are you …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    No Robber Barons, ya reckon? Proof’s in the puddin’ …

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/09/25/how_the_rich_conquered_the_economy_in_one_chart.html

  103. November 19, 2016 9:57 am

    “You mean, like the Caymans?”

    I mean like Singapore, or a Trump-led US.

    TORIES, BOO!

  104. Tom R permalink
    November 19, 2016 1:19 pm

    I mean like Singapore, or a Trump-led US.

    You mean like Singapore, where companies are already siphoning off Australia’s tax dollars

    Here’s a thought, why not put people back in the ATO to stop this, instead of essentially closing it down like hockey did so we can’t even track whats going on, let alone stop them doing it.

    Because, no matter how cheap the tax rate is in the Caymans, it is still this country in which they are profiting.

  105. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 19, 2016 1:46 pm

    Here’s a thought, why not put people back in the ATO to stop this, instead of essentially closing it down like hockey did so we can’t even track whats going on, let alone stop them doing it.

    So tax evasion only occurred from 2013? How about you stop telling lies and then we may be able to do something.

    This tax evasion topic has been raised by the left because they are trying to shift the blame for the Swan deficits. The ALP is totally incapable of admitting they have done anything wrong.

    Here is a thought. How about we cut govt spending?

  106. Tom R permalink
    November 19, 2016 2:24 pm

    Here is a thought. How about we cut govt spending?

    yea, because it’s not like that hasn’t been tried, has it.

    The issue, they argue, is not necessarily about the numbers of cuts, but about the quality of people leaving.

    It is depriving the agency of seasoned tax professionals and leaving nearly untouched the layer of middle management – who either don’t have skilled knowledge or whose expertise is arguably more centred on human resources than taxation.

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/blood-letting-at-tax-office-takes-hold-20141229-12f2kc.html

    And they did that as they wound back Labors attempts to lose loopholes

    The Gillard government announced the abolition of deductions under section 25-90 of the Income Tax Assessment Act 1997 as part of a package to combat tax minimisation by global corporations, at a projected benefit to the taxpayer of $600 million.

    In November last year, Mr Hockey and the then Assistant Treasurer, Arthur Sinodinos, announced they would not legislate Labor’s package, saying it would impose “unreasonable compliance costs on Australian companies” with subsidiaries offshore.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/hockey-backflips-on-tax-laws-to-target-multinational-profit-shifters-20141216-128ebg.html

  107. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 19, 2016 2:32 pm

    yea, because it’s not like that hasn’t been tried, has it.

    Howard did it in1996 and it worked. Hockey tried in 2014 and as blocked by the Senate.

    Costello ran surplus budgets because he spent less than he got as revenue.

    This tax avoidance crap is a smokescreen by ALP supporters to cover up their evil and wasteful spending.

  108. Tom R permalink
    November 19, 2016 2:40 pm

    Howard did it in1996 and it worked.

    I’ll mention yor favourite phrase, “structural deficit” 😉

  109. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 19, 2016 2:43 pm

    I’ll mention yor favourite phrase, “structural deficit

    Further proof how deceitful ALP supporters are. How long did Swan spend thinking up that concept? Fact is Costello ran surplus budgets.

    You ALP supporters keep finding ways to cover up your incompetence.

    Saying ALP supporters are evil is an understatement.

  110. Tom R permalink
    November 19, 2016 3:16 pm

  111. November 19, 2016 5:31 pm

    Labors,,,,attempts to (#c)lose loopholes,,,,

    The,,,,Gillard government announced the abolition of deductions,,,,

    # ,, All this shows is the team hasn`t learned a fcuking thing. The ,,,,attempts,,,, are failures, but the team won`t stop crowing about their failures. The ,,,,announced,,,, means they didn`t present/table/pass in both houses, but the team won`t shut-up about that either. lnstead, the team prefer to run with 14%-blib, instead of 24%-albo or 25%-plib and call 66-seats next time an achievement too. Drowning the average non-aligned voter(most-of-us) in waffle of `announced`, `attempts`, and other such non-events only pisses them off. #yaaaay.blib

  112. November 19, 2016 5:47 pm

    “”You mean like Singapore, where companies are already siphoning off Australia’s tax dollars””

    Very true! Up until recently, Australian companies advertising on Google in Australia had to pay Google in Singapore so that Google could avoid having to pay tax in Australia.

  113. November 19, 2016 7:36 pm

    pay,,,,Google in Singapore so that Google could avoid,,,,

    # ,, both teams are so corrupted with bullshit and squander every chance to do anything meaningful for people or nation, trying to chase wisps of smoke tax-revenue over the internet when they have failed so miserably to raise sufficient tax-revenue from bricks`n mortar business sounds a bit like a unicorn round-up to me. Of course l could be wrong and the ato might successfully gallop across the interwebs and rope large herds of unicorn and we all get rich selling unicorn pelts, and fat from dining on unicorn-roast.

  114. TB Queensland permalink
    November 20, 2016 2:58 pm

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