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Polygamy: “Political Correctness Gone Mad” says Pauline Hanson

December 12, 2016

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Pauline Hanson has taken aim at the Department of Human Services over allegations that Centrelink is paying spousal benefits to the second and third wives of Muslim men all living under the same roof.

A clearly rattled Ms Hanson said that mainstream political parties were “too gutless” to condemn the practice.

“If we keep ­appeasing these groups they will want more and more,” Ms Hanson said.

“They will keep going on and abusing us, our generosity and our culture.”

The One Nation leader took aim squarely at the major political parties, “We have been taken for fools”.

“Second marriages and all that are not ­acknowledged in this country or their children, and they should not be funded at all,” Ms Hanson said.

“It is against the law to have multiple marriages, but we are condoning it as taxpayers.”

Pentecostal christian and acting “Federal Treasurer” Scott Morrison also took aim saying that instances where polygamy was being used to claim multiple spousal benefits were “100 per cent wrong”.

But he did admit that said it would be more expensive for the government if each wife claimed an independent welfare allowance.

“The law and its implementation cannot condone polygamy. It’s against our values, it’s 100 per cent wrong,” he said.

Centrelink does not hold data based on polygamous relationships or religion, something Liberal Senator Cory Bernardi labelled “a convenient excuse”.

“We are always told the data is not kept,” he said as he joined Ms Hanson in her condemnation, saying the payments were “political correctness gone mad”.

“The lack of will to confront some individuals who seek to apply a different law to themselves means politicians are afraid to speak out,” he said.

But not anymore, apparently.

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  1. December 12, 2016 6:28 pm

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  2. TB Queensland permalink
    December 12, 2016 6:57 pm

    Centrelink does not hold data based on polygamous relationships or religion, something Liberal Senator Cory Bernardi labelled “a convenient excuse”.

    “We are always told the data is not kept,” he said as he joined Ms Hanson in her condemnation, saying the payments were “political correctness gone mad”.

    Perhaps he could ask for a Border Force Special Raid on Centrelink and then get the information? Oh, wait … that fkn “operational secrecy” will kick in …

    This really does need to be checked before too many people overwhelm our underfunded hospital system with burst blood vessels and arteries, heart attacks and stroke … someone might slip in the blood and seriously injure themselves …

    … however, it seems that most people with high blood pressure (from living in a Catholic/Liberal economy and not a caring society) are receiving the age pension, so that could be a win-win in so many ways … hey?

    Is being a politician … someone on welfare?

  3. john o'callaghan permalink
    December 12, 2016 8:29 pm

    Who cares that the wifes are getting paid,the bloody politicians have all got their filthy snouts in the public trough,so good luck to the girls getting the money,which by the way will most probably be spent on their kids for food and education anyway.

  4. TB Queensland permalink
    December 12, 2016 11:18 pm

    That’s a really tricky* comment there, jo’c …

    ToM and Mr Wallace will be along soon I should imagine …

    *read interesting

  5. Tom R permalink
    December 13, 2016 8:01 am

    We are always told the data is not kept

    Says one of the muppets who argues to cut funding at every turn. Cry me a fucken river!

    You know when the libs are in the shit. Time to Kick the fear can can along the road by kicking the most vulnerable.

    Why not kick the multinationals bleeding $Billions from our economy every year?

  6. Tom R permalink
    December 13, 2016 9:00 am

  7. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 13, 2016 9:35 am

    Generally Australia is too soft on welfare and there should be a form of mutual obligation (ie work to the extent of their capacity) for all welfare recipients other than old aged pensioners

  8. TB Queensland permalink
    December 13, 2016 9:46 am

    Nothing changes, nothing is new … only the technology* to do whatever you do …

    * unintentional pun …

    An affidavit filed by Moriarty states that police attended her Brisbane law firm on 14 November after her office manager “forwarded emails on to me emailed to the firm over the weekend, one of which, linked to the Weekend Australian article, read: ‘We are coming to get you’.

    “For reasons relating to my particular family circumstances I found that particularly distressing,” she said.

    The message contained the subject line “blackmail and extortion”, stating it was from “Readers of The Australian ”.

    Prior’s lawyers have argued in court that the Australian’s extensive coverage of her case has enabled a “platform” for those campaigning to wind back section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, which makes it unlawful to “offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate” others on the grounds of race, colour or ethnicity.

    They filed material showing coverage of the case, mainly by the Australian, had received 24,500 online comments, include alleged calls for violence against Prior.

    Moriarty told Guardian Australia a female police officer investigating her complaint had advised her to contact the Australian and ask them to disable online comments on its coverage of the case “because they were inciting violence”.

    A Queensland police spokesman confirmed officers provided that advice but said they did not launch an investigation, as Moriarty did not make a formal complaint. Moriarty said she did not contact the Australian as she doubted it would take action.

    The solicitor said she was shocked at this response by police, adding: “I can assure you they attended my office because I made a complaint.”

    https://theguttertrash.com/2016/12/12/polygamy-political-correctness-gone-madsays-pauline-hanson/#comment-135450

  9. Tom R permalink
    December 13, 2016 11:06 am

    Generally Australia is too soft on welfare

    yomms feelpinions break free again. Or is that post-truth? Fake News?

    The OECD report suggests the job-search requirements in Australia are more onerous than those in the other countries studied.

    https://theconversation.com/ideas-for-australia-welfare-reform-needs-to-be-about-improving-well-being-not-punishing-the-poor-56355

    Or were you referring to ‘welfare’ for rich people and/or multinationals?

  10. Tom R permalink
    December 13, 2016 11:19 am

    The grubmint of more taxes?

  11. December 13, 2016 11:23 am

    “”Todays link””

    chuckle..

  12. TB Queensland permalink
    December 13, 2016 11:30 am

    Or were you referring to ‘welfare’ for rich people and/or multinationals?

    You aren’t referring to the negative gearing – capital gains dodge for tax bludgers, TR?

    ToM’s, partisan comments are coming thick and fast …

    Can’t wait for his “review” of Shane’s link for the day …

  13. Tom R permalink
    December 13, 2016 11:31 am

    chuckle..

    Yes, it was 🙂

    Nicely played Shane

  14. Tom R permalink
    December 13, 2016 11:35 am

    You aren’t referring to the negative gearing – capital gains dodge for tax bludgers, TR?

    Not specifically, but it is an extensive list

  15. December 13, 2016 11:51 am

    “Todays link”

    No worries Shane. I’ll have a look at it for you. Just as soon as you respond to my snarkiness questions from your last link.

  16. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 13, 2016 1:12 pm

    I don’t mean just job search. I said welfare recipients

  17. Tom R permalink
    December 13, 2016 1:21 pm

    I said welfare recipients

    Again, that is an extensive list. Are you able to specify? We’ve just worked out it is NOT the unemployed you are referring to. Who then?

    Retirees?
    Disabled?
    Lutheran?

  18. Tom R permalink
    December 13, 2016 1:24 pm

    Just as soon as you respond to my snarkiness questions from your last link.

    Goalpost shifting? [snark]

  19. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 13, 2016 1:49 pm

    I think i did specify – everyone to the extent of their ability, with the exception of old aged pensioners

  20. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 13, 2016 1:50 pm

    Including people on the dole

  21. December 13, 2016 3:13 pm

    .“” I’ll have a look at it for you. Just as soon as you respond to my questions from your last link.””

    What, the one where you asked Shane if he “was ashamed….?”

    Allow me to proffer a response on Shane’s behalf.

    GET FUCKED!

  22. TB Queensland permalink
    December 13, 2016 3:37 pm

    Now that’s … chuckle … big time!

  23. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 13, 2016 3:38 pm

    That’s really interesting. I’d like to have all my comments in BIG writing. Can you post instructions?

  24. Walrus permalink
    December 13, 2016 3:47 pm

    Mmmmmm……………I don’t think its unreasonable to ask if a financial planner derives his income from commission based products as opposed to charging an hourly rate.

    Something about…………………………….Robber Barons

  25. Walrus permalink
    December 13, 2016 3:51 pm

    “Prior’s lawyers have argued in court that the Australian’s extensive coverage of her case has enabled a “platform” for those campaigning to wind back section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, which makes it unlawful to “offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate” others on the grounds of race, colour or ethnicity. ”

    Oh heaven forbid that a newspaper would want to report on a story about a public servant sueing some university students for something they never did.

    Oh that’s right…………the Left like to censor things

  26. Tom R permalink
    December 13, 2016 4:17 pm

    Including people on the dole

    But not just job search (which is, essentially, ‘people on the dole”), cos, as we have seen, the requirements are already quite onerous.

    So, are you able to perhaps flesh out for us what you mean with a throwaway line like “Generally Australia is too soft on welfare” but perhaps not for job search requirements (ie, ‘people on the dole”) which as I showed was NOT “too soft on welfare” ?

  27. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 13, 2016 4:22 pm

    Moriarty’s account of the alleged threats forms part of her case for the federal court to allow Prior’s appeal outside the deadline for lodging it. The application will be heard on Friday.”

    Sounds like Moriarty and/or her client were asleep at the wheel, missed the deadline and are now looking for sympathy. Neither Shakedown Cindy nor her ambulance-chasing lawyer deserve anything other than contempt.

  28. Walrus permalink
    December 13, 2016 4:29 pm

    “Neither Shakedown Cindy nor her ambulance-chasing lawyer deserve anything other than contempt.”

    There is a great deal of schadenfreude to enjoy.

    Its sounds to me that Moriarty is simply incompetent whereas Cindy is just a lazy vindictive public servant.

    I hope they are both driven to some sort of financial ruin

  29. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 13, 2016 4:33 pm

    Fine. People receiving other forms of welfare should have the mutual obligation and preform some community service

    Why limit it to people on the dole?

  30. Tom R permalink
    December 13, 2016 4:38 pm

    So retirees should “perform” some community service?
    The disabled?

    I have no argument about Lutherans doing that 😉

  31. December 13, 2016 4:44 pm

    that,,,,Centrelink is paying spousal benefits to the second and third wives,,,,

    # ,, as if they`d actually fcuking know. The stupid cnuts can`t even find the `actual` unemployed payment numbers the way the bullshit is at the moment. They`d have fcuk-all chance of finding `actual` multi-spouse numbers. All tho, as braying-media make hanson and `pentacostal` all shrill, that` fine too.

    ,,,,Pentecostal christian and acting `Federal Treasurer` Scott Morrison,,,,

    # ,, another fcuking tyrant crushing everybody he can to please his sky-fairy.

  32. December 13, 2016 4:59 pm

    GET FUCKED!

    Right back at youse!

  33. December 13, 2016 5:02 pm

    ha ha ha, the resident dumb-fcuk bleating from his tinfoil cubicle

    ,,,,on welfare and there should be a form of mutual obligation,,,,

    for some reason thinks ,,,,mutual obligation,,,, is not already imposed. FcukWit!!!

    # ,, hint, go do some research on `jobactive` contractors that receive a million(ball-park) service-fees off treasury(per-month) for `managing` job-seekers, when there is `usually` less than 100,000 jobs(mostly junk-jobs) available(per-month); before you make a total fcuking imbecile of ya`self. #teabags

    # ,, or are ya`still relying on braying-media to fully inform`ya.

  34. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 13, 2016 6:24 pm

    So retirees should “perform” some community service?
    The disabled?

    Why do I have to repeat all my comments!?

    I’ve said all welfare recipients except old aged pensioners, others should perform a mutual obligation activity to the extent of their capability.

  35. Tom R permalink
    December 13, 2016 6:30 pm

    others should perform a mutual obligation activity to the extent of their capability.

    Others?

    Are you able to elaborate?

    We have ruled out ‘dole bludgers’ (because we worked out they aren’t really ‘bludgers’ after all)

    You have ruled out ‘retirees’

    some ‘disabled’; to ‘the point they are able’ (I’d not want to be in charge of managing THAT particular segregation)

    What’s left?

  36. December 13, 2016 6:51 pm

    Ideas for Australia: Welfare reform needs to be about improving well-being, not punishing the poor

    https://theconversation.com/ideas-for-australia-welfare-reform-needs-to-be-about-improving-well-being-not-punishing-the-poor-56355

    # ,, l don`t really like/agree with this title. lt would be better titled; Federal cnuts punishing folks that have had their jobs thrown `away` by Federal cnuts.

    # ,, l just don`t think it would get past the censor. (-:

    thecon,,,,(#work-for-dole)Evidence on the effectiveness of these approaches is mixed. A study on work for the dole`s pilot phase found participants in the program were NO-MORE likely to move off welfare payments in the 12 months than a comparable group of payment recipients who did not participate,,,,

    thecon,,,,The explanation for this finding includes the observation that for people to move off welfare, new jobs need to be available,,,,

    # ,, why don`t thecon tell viewers that; when they work for their `dole`, usually at a `charity` like the salvos for X-hrs/week for 26-weeks(per-head); that the salvos receive a $3000 `service-fee`(per-head) for receiving `free-labor`; and because of this, many so-called charities have sacked their own low-paid laborers and put them on the dole.

    # ,, yes teabags, this is costing `you` way more than `you` think. #jokes.on.you

  37. TB Queensland permalink
    December 13, 2016 7:17 pm

    You’d think all those companies that aren’t paying taxes would be putting on employees by the hundreds … imagine if they paid even less tax … oh, wait!

    Didn’t Rudd’s missus become a multi millionaire because the government privatised the Government Labour Exchange (that worked really well)?

  38. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 13, 2016 7:20 pm

    So just to crystalise the point.

    Anyone in receipt of welfare (other than old aged pensioners) should perform a mutual obligation activity or community service. This is already required of those on the dole.

    Therefore those receiving various parenting allowances, disability pensions…whatever else, should perform a community service obligation to the extent of their capability.

  39. December 13, 2016 7:20 pm

    “others should perform a mutual obligation activity to the extent of their capability.”

    Maybe we could start with politicians.

  40. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 13, 2016 7:27 pm

    And I see Trump plans to appoint 5 or 6 billionaires to his administration. BUT…he’s no teabag, and I don’t suppose they are either…. all non-teabags with backgrounds like-
    * Petrochemical company board member
    * Professional rasslin’ owner
    * Son of rich dad

  41. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 13, 2016 7:28 pm

    Yep, all those non-teabags should do a really great job for the workers!

  42. December 13, 2016 8:30 pm

    lt is `always` nice to have a resident imbecile or two around the place. They can always be relied upon to be wrong.

    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/06/as-trump-pushes-back-on-boeing-consider-his-private-jet-cost-a-fraction-of-air-force-one.html

    cnbc,,,,One reason Donald Trump is pushing back on the cost of Air Force One is that his own plane cost less than a tenth of Air Force One.

    The president-elect`s private 757-200 is known as Trump Force One, and Trump has long boasted that it`s better than the president`s ride.

    Trump`s plane has gold seat buckles, gold faucets, gold inlaid in the wood and gold lighting hardware. It`s also got a state-of-the-art multimedia system for watching movies and live TV anywhere in the world, and it`s got leather seats custom-dyed with Trump`s favorite color, and the Trump family crest is embroidered on all the sofas, seats and cushions.

    Trump bought the plane from Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen in 2010. Trump said he paid $100 million, but sources close to the deal said it cost less than $50 million. He then spent less than $10 million on the renovation and refit,

    so the total cost of the plane was under $60 million.

    Compare that to Air Force One, where two planes are expected to cost $1.65 billion, or around $830 million per plane ,, more than 13 times Trump`s,,,,

    # ,, seems the-ronald is doing ,,,a really great job for the,,, taxpayers.

  43. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 13, 2016 11:03 pm

    “…others should perform a mutual obligation activity to the extent of their capability…”

    “…Maybe we could start with politicians…”

    Yes, everyone who is getting something from the taxpayer eh?

    I take it that includes the rent seeking, subsidised corporations? perhaps they could see their way clear to paying us in taxes to the extent of their capability.

  44. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2016 12:10 am

    Mmmmmm……………I don’t think its unreasonable to ask if a financial planner derives his income from commission based products as opposed to charging an hourly rate.

    Do you derive your income from commission based products or charging an hourly rate?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    … a community service obligation to the extent of their capability.

    Could you expand on “their capability”, please … ?

    Yep, all those non-teabags should do a really great job for the workers!

    Yep, we agree on that …

    I just had guests telling me how a friend of theirs owns six robot trucks “two stories high!” working in in WA … conversation died a bit when I pointed out that’s five workers without jobs … no tax … five families on the dole … how many mine-sites are there in Oz … how do they survive?

    And then I got … if I was in the government I’d have a Coastal Police … a what? … a force that monitors all the surfers to find the dole bludgers along the East Coast …

    Then I said, I can name one now! 🙂

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    cnbc,,,,One reason Donald Trump is pushing back on the cost of Air Force One is that his own plane cost less than a tenth of Air Force One.

    The president-elect`s private 757-200 is known as Trump Force One, and Trump has long boasted that it`s better than the president`s ride.

    That’s a great news … its all about the “ride” apparently … fuck the security … what fkn Dodo Trump is … but good news for the rest of us …

    Mmmmm … Dodo Trump!

  45. M.O. permalink
    December 14, 2016 1:46 am

    (Mmmmm … Dodo Trump!

    If we fly, consider carbon off-setting where, for example, we can contribute to a tree planting or habitat restoration scheme to balance the carbon emission from our flights.”)

  46. Tom R permalink
    December 14, 2016 8:25 am

    Then I said, I can name one now!

    It’s ;looking like he’s the only one left on his hit list of ” People receiving other forms of welfare should have the mutual obligation ”

    He got down to kicking single mums, but his ignorance was showing

    The fact is, single parents like Alanna are already required to seek part-time employment and half are already in some form of paid work.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-12/goldie-single-parent-payments/4064496

    So, we are left with ‘some disabled’

    Oh, and ‘some surfies’ 😉

    Mind you, I get the feeling that ‘some disabled’, while being a far cry from his original “we are soft on welfare’ cry, might argue that being disabled may just limit their ‘mutual obligation’

    My guess is, yomms been supping at the murdoch koolaid too much, and ignoring the reality

  47. Walrus permalink
    December 14, 2016 8:33 am

    “Do you derive your income from commission based products or charging an hourly rate?”

    Strictly hourly rate.

  48. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2016 9:02 am

    Are you mad! 😀

  49. Walrus permalink
    December 14, 2016 9:12 am

    Probably !

  50. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 14, 2016 9:17 am

    Even injured workers return to work in accordance with their capacity. But welfare recipients can’t?

  51. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2016 11:00 am

    Even injured workers return to work in accordance with their capacity.

    Or have to go onto a disability pension.

  52. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 14, 2016 11:05 am

    I’m wondering if Walrus, shane or TB have the answer to this problem.

    My daughter’s retired & pensioner in-laws have just lost their pension, something that has caused this liberal voting elderly couple great anger against the government!
    I don’t know their personal circumstances other than to say they are originally from the uk, both met and served in the defence force and have been settled and working in australia for many years, their adult kids were born here [oldest is 32 yo] and they also collect a UK pension. They have been retired for a few years now, took a trip to europe last year. For some reason they have recently ‘lost’ the aussie pension they had been getting. I assumed it must be because they have too much money sitting somewhere or a new law has come into effect…why do you think it has happened to them?

    Well this certainly didn’t stop the FBI from interfering!

    The tainted election: How Donald Trump won is horrifying
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/the-tainted-election-20161212-gt9ncs

    …The CIA, according to The Washington Post, has now determined that hackers working for the Russian government worked to tilt the 2016 election to Donald Trump. This has actually been obvious for months, but the agency was reluctant to state that conclusion before the election out of fear that it would be seen as taking a political role…

    And now they introduce an NBN levy which will add more to each bill.

  53. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 14, 2016 11:19 am

    Well done students!

  54. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2016 11:22 am

    KL, see below … the assets test is changing …

    https://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/enablers/changes-pension-assets-test

  55. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2016 11:24 am

    This is the “guts” of it …

    New asset limits

    The assets test free area is increasing. Your assets don’t affect your payment if they are below the assets test free area. The new assets test free areas will be:
    •$250,000 for a single homeowner
    •$375,000 for a homeowner couple
    •$450,000 for a single non-homeowner
    •$575,000 for a non-homeowner couple

    The family home is still exempt from the assets test.

    Asset limits for allowances will also increase. There will be no reduction or cancellation of allowances as a result of this change.

    How assets over the limit will affect your payment

    Currently, for every $1,000 of assets you own over the assets test free area, your pension is reduced by $1.50 per fortnight. This is called the taper rate.

    From 1 January 2017, your pension will reduce by $3 per fortnight for every $1,000 of assets you own over the asset free area.

  56. Walrus permalink
    December 14, 2016 11:40 am

    Yep that’s it !

  57. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 14, 2016 11:48 am

    Thanks TB, I just passed that on to my daughter, she thinks that the f-i-l will be looking into it.

    She says that they don’t have investments, they have a car, a caravan, their own house and a vacant block of land somewhere.

  58. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 14, 2016 11:48 am

    And thanks to you too walrus!

  59. Walrus permalink
    December 14, 2016 11:54 am

    “………..and a vacant block of land somewhere.”

    That will be the killer

  60. Walrus permalink
    December 14, 2016 11:55 am

    “……………..they have a car, a caravan……….”

    Something like this ?

  61. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 14, 2016 12:04 pm

    Something like this ?

    hehe, no, I think she would have noticed a motorhome! 😆

  62. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2016 12:14 pm

    Yes, KL, I agree with wally, if they are a homeowner couple (see above) … $375,000 is quickly chewed up by a block of dirt etc … problem they have of course is that if they sold it the asset simply becomes the increased bank balance …

    Home is exempt of course and contents asset value are an arbitrary fire sale $5,000 …

    People have an odd sense of value sometimes, a friend of ours, in his 80’s (who is ineligible because of a commercial property he owns and he can’t sell to pay off the mortgage on his home – asset rich, income poor!) … thought his Merc was worth around $25,000 … a quick Redbook check revealed $87,000!

    My Hyundai Santa Fe – now five years old – holds its value well and has the same value I paid for it … (I did get a good deal at the time through a friend of a rellie) … but it does affect our part pension …

  63. Walrus permalink
    December 14, 2016 12:14 pm

    “…………….and a vacant block of land somewhere.”

  64. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2016 12:17 pm

    Chuckle!

    KL, this is a pretty good calculator for what we are talking about …

    http://yourpension.com.au/APCalc/index.html#CalcForm

  65. Snarktomonious Snarketeer permalink
    December 14, 2016 1:30 pm

    “Do you derive your income from commission based products or charging an hourly rate?”

    How dare you ask such a thing! Have you no decency?

  66. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2016 1:39 pm

    Ah, but I didn’t ask “are you ashamed”?

    Missed the point again … also way out of the original context …

  67. Walrus permalink
    December 14, 2016 1:51 pm

    “Ah, but I didn’t ask “are you ashamed”?”

    I dont know what the fuss was about. I just thought ToSY was being sarcastic .

    Dont we do “sarcasm” anymore ?

  68. Tone of Snark permalink
    December 14, 2016 1:57 pm

    Ah, but I didn’t ask “are you ashamed”?

    A fair question, too, in its “original context”.

  69. Snark Bait permalink
    December 14, 2016 2:01 pm

    “I just thought ToSY was being sarcastic .”

    No. I was told by the Internet Morality Police, Local Branch, that I was being snarky.

  70. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 14, 2016 2:21 pm

  71. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 14, 2016 2:43 pm

    In Coalition’s 4th year in office you really need to do better than blame Labor for the state of the Budget.

    Not really. Labor has not allowed the Coalition to govern. They block everything. The Coalition may be in govt but they cannot get their budget cuts through the Senate

  72. Tom R permalink
    December 14, 2016 3:39 pm

    Labor has not allowed the Coalition to govern.

    But isn’t that what oppositions are supposed to do?

    Or have to go onto a disability pension.

    SNARK! 🙂

  73. Tom R permalink
    December 14, 2016 3:42 pm

  74. Tom R permalink
    December 14, 2016 4:23 pm

    Grate Minds hey yomm 😉

    Perhaps yomm can help us out here. What job can someone with a ‘bad back’ do?

    You can’t sit, you can’t stand, and you are in constant pain, that alternates between painful and agonizing. I’m sure there is something out there. Steel Fixer perhaps?

  75. Walrus permalink
    December 14, 2016 4:31 pm

    “— Michael Taylor (@AusIndiMedia)”

    Oh please do spare us from that total utter fuckwit

  76. Tom R permalink
    December 14, 2016 4:45 pm

    Oh please do spare us from that total utter fuckwit

    Your wish is my …………….

    oops 🙂

  77. Tom R permalink
    December 14, 2016 4:49 pm

    Yea, somehow I get the feeling that the libs see this as a feature, not a bug.

  78. Walrus permalink
    December 14, 2016 4:49 pm

    OK……………so you want Total War

  79. Tom R permalink
    December 14, 2016 5:01 pm

    OK……………so you want Total War

    But it’s Kylie Minogue, and I’m a PATRIOT! (with a rock in me fist) 😉

  80. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 14, 2016 6:16 pm

    Looks like we are about o lose our AAA credit rating and nobody cares. We should have cut spending by 10% in 2014.

    Fact is we are in trouble.

    I think all ALP supporters are traitors to Australia

  81. Tom R permalink
    December 14, 2016 6:31 pm

    nil, spending was trending down when the libs took office, now it is rising again. That’s this grubmints doing, no one else’s fault

  82. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 14, 2016 7:03 pm

    Oh please do spare us from that total utter fuckwit

    IATW is correct

  83. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2016 7:27 pm

    No. I was told by the Internet Morality Police, Local Branch, that I was being snarky.

    And you know you were … do you really want to be arrested? 😡

  84. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2016 7:30 pm

    Or have to go onto a disability pension.

    SNARK!

    C’mon, TR, that’s not snark … it’s a fact … 🙄

  85. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2016 7:34 pm

    OK……………so you want Total War

    Which asteroid do you exist on?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I think all ALP supporters are traitors to Australia

    There goes another brainfart … can’t be too many left?

  86. December 14, 2016 7:35 pm

    “Oh please do spare us from that total utter fuckwit”

    I’ve been blocked from ‘following” Minglo on twitter, even before I actually said anything…

    sensitive petals.

  87. December 14, 2016 7:37 pm

    “I was being snarky.”

    No.

    You were being a cunt.

    Feel free to fuck off somewhere else anytime it suits you.

  88. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2016 7:37 pm

    MALfunction TurnAbbott, Dopey Dutton, SloMo Morrison … what chance do we really have?

    And whatever happened to Pyne In The Arse?

  89. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2016 7:39 pm

    C’mon, sreb, it is Christmas … and we have our very own Grinch! ⭐

  90. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2016 7:41 pm

    And on reflection, the way this Dysfunctional Bunch of Keystone Kops in Kanberra is acting … this may be the last Kristmas … ever …

    I blame the ALP!

  91. December 14, 2016 7:42 pm

    “C’mon, sreb, it is Christmas …”

    Oh ok..

    Message for ToSY..

    Happy Christmas

    Cunt face.

  92. December 14, 2016 7:43 pm

    “No. You were being a cunt. Feel free to fuck off somewhere else anytime it suits you.”

    No. You feel free to ban me anytime it suits you.

  93. December 14, 2016 7:44 pm

    “Happy Christmas Cunt face.”

    Same to you.

  94. December 14, 2016 7:46 pm

    “No. You feel free to ban me anytime it suits you.”

    Said Joe Hockey to Holden.

  95. December 14, 2016 7:48 pm

    So what do you do for a living again ToSY and how is your remuneration paid?

  96. December 14, 2016 7:49 pm

    Go on. Ban me. Do us both a favour.

  97. December 14, 2016 7:50 pm

    Yeah you’re right..

    See ya.

  98. December 14, 2016 7:51 pm

    “So what do you do for a living again ToSY and how is your remuneration paid?”

    Again? I’ve never said. Are you going to?

  99. December 14, 2016 7:51 pm

    Your pictures were shitting me to tears anyway..

    Even though I gave you your own gallery space.

    But I guess “that’s gratitude”.. lol.

  100. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 14, 2016 7:55 pm

    nil, spending was trending down when the libs took office, now it is rising again. That’s this grubmints doing, no one else’s fault

    You mean like this?

    The four years of surpluses I announce tonight are a powerful endorsement of the strength of our economy, resilience of our people, and success of our policies.

    In an uncertain and fast‑changing world, we walk tall — as a nation confidently living within its means.

    This Budget delivers a surplus this coming year, on time, as promised, and surpluses each year after that, strengthening over time.

    Wayne Swan Budget Speech 8/5/2012

  101. December 14, 2016 7:55 pm

    “I’ve never said”

    Exactly. But quite happy to cast aspersions on others who have.

    Kind of a bit piss weak don’t you think . (rhetorical question)..

    Hint: which means you don’t need to answer.

  102. December 14, 2016 8:04 pm

    “Even though I gave you your own gallery space.
    But I guess “that’s gratitude”.. lol.”

    Gee, that must have been so difficult for you. Sorry to have put you out.

    Not really.

  103. December 14, 2016 8:05 pm

    Hey, I thought I was banned. I guess it takes a while to go through. I can wait.

  104. December 14, 2016 8:10 pm

    In fact, without wishing to appear immodest, I think I’ve been quite welcoming to you ToSY, creating a dedicated space with “ToSY’s Art Corner” for you to express your interest in art and post your own paintings and photography.

    Many ppl here have posted comments offering support and encouragement as well as acknowleging your skills in photography.

    I have to say that I find it a bit hard to swallow that you’ll launch a salvo against the pretty much inoffensive “Shane of QLD” about his career and how he is remunerated, and then take some sort of umbrage when it’s pointed out.

  105. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2016 8:10 pm

    … now there’s a chuckle … fancy trying oneupmanship with a Blogmeister … LOL!

  106. TB Queensland permalink
    December 14, 2016 8:12 pm

    I’ll come back tomorrow … :/

  107. December 14, 2016 8:12 pm

    “I guess it takes a while to go through.”

    Whaddaya want?

    A ‘certificate’ so you can put it next to scraper’s ….?

  108. December 14, 2016 8:16 pm

    Yeah, no worries. I’ve obviously contravened some kind of unwritten hate-speech law. You are assuming the role of arbitrary thought/speech policeman. Which is your right, since it’s your blog. I think you’re wrong, but who cares. Like I said, ban me, or ready yourself for more unauthorised commentary. Your choice.

  109. December 14, 2016 8:20 pm

    “You are assuming the role of arbitrary thought/speech policeman. ”

    Am I…?

    But you’re still here.

    Kind of defeats your point don’t you think.

  110. December 14, 2016 8:22 pm

    “But you’re still here. Kind of defeats your point don’t you think.”

    No. You’ve invited me to leave, but I’ve declined. The power is with you.

  111. December 14, 2016 8:29 pm

    “The power is with you.”

    This is true.

  112. December 14, 2016 8:47 pm

    That’s right. Youtube videos are a good diversion.
    That’s piss weak, if anything is. Like you said several times, I’m a cunt. So why don’t you ban me?

  113. In_the_sticks permalink
    December 14, 2016 9:22 pm

    Geez Tony, you really mustn’t have much of a life if this is the best use of your time that you can come up with. Nowhere else to go then ???

  114. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 14, 2016 10:46 pm

    I like the contributions of both Shane and Tony

  115. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 15, 2016 2:24 am

    I like the contributions of both Shane and Tony

    I like everyone’s comments 🙂

    So now we are really expected to swallow another lib concoction, that lib debt is good but labor debt is bad, who knew debt was so partisan? The usual rusted ons will parrot and defend that without a thought to the stupidity of it all.

    We hear from abbott again, he pretends he’s helping the team and jumps in to remind people of his certainly gets more media attention than any other extreme right backbencher.

    Get off your knees tony, we know she’s a threat but it’s too obvious for you to try and get her jailed again…or…could ashby be a lib plant??? …or…is tony being so creepy nice because ashby knows too much??? hmmm

  116. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2016 8:59 am

    Talk about Dumb & Dumber! Interesting that the GRU and the FSB were the perpetrators, considering Putin’s KGB background …

    According to the New York Times, the Obama administration was slow to respond to the hacking threat, underestimated its seriousness and fluffed several opportunities to stop it. The resulting email furore damaged Clinton’s election prospects and helped Trump to victory, as the Kremlin had almost certainly intended.

    After the data breach the DNC hired CrowdStrike, a cybersecurity company. It quickly established the hack had originated in Russia and identified two groups, Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear. Cozy Bear, linked to Russia’s FSB spy agency, had begun its phishing operation in summer 2015, the paper reported.

    Fancy Bear joined the attacks in March 2016. The hacking group is linked to the GRU, Russian military intelligence. It was Fancy Bear that hacked Podesta’s email account, the paper said. The two Kremlin hacking groups were seemingly unaware of each other, sometimes stockpiling the same stolen documents.

    Dmitri Alperovitch, CrowdStrike’s co-founder and chief technology officer, told the paper there was no doubt Russia was responsible. “There’s no plausible actor that has an interest in all those victims other than Russia,” he said. Additionally, the hacking groups were active at times matching Moscow’s timezone, he added.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/14/dnc-hillary-clinton-emails-hacked-russia-aide-typo-investigation-finds

  117. Walrus permalink
    December 15, 2016 9:59 am

    If anyone is interested former AUSTRALIAN LABOR PARTY numbers man Eddie Obeid cops his sentence today. You can follow it Live here………..

    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/eddie-obeid-sentenced-for-circular-quay-corruption-20161214-gtbb50.html

    If he does not get a jail sentence there will be a storming of the gates of State Government

  118. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2016 10:22 am

    Not particularly the man was found guilty of fraud and corruption … the courts will deal with him appropriately … as they should with any guilty criminal … from any political party …

    Shimples …

  119. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 15, 2016 10:27 am

    When Nathan Rees relegated Obeid’s mate Tripodi to the backbench Kristina Keneally was the chosen stooge to replace him by the powers that be in NSW Labor i.e. Obeid and his mates. The thieving cnut is typical of NSW Labor.

  120. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 15, 2016 10:28 am

    Too funny: KL and TB have fallen for the latest “Reds Under The Beds” scare campaign!

  121. Walrus permalink
    December 15, 2016 10:46 am

    “KL and TB have fallen for the latest……………..”

    Yep………being good Lefties they are still struggling emotionally with the Trump victory.

    They should form a group of like minded people and just go to a room, close the door and let out a loud collective blood curdling primal scream just to get some of their resentment out of their systems.

  122. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2016 10:46 am

    “Reds Under The Beds”

    You betcha! Especially if Trumps in bed with Putin!

    And its all God’s fault – apparently …

    “Please remember what country you’re representing — remember your own country’s track record and then you can start opining from the position of moral supremacy,” Mr Churkin responded.

    He also said it was up to God who was ultimately to blame.

    http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/samantha-power-speech-on-aleppo-at-the-un-have-you-no-shame/news-story/ea0d0b4775cd441f51a3d733999f7c8e

    Its always someone else’s fault!

  123. December 15, 2016 10:47 am

    They should throw the book at him (amongst other things)..

  124. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2016 10:49 am

    Yep………being good Lefties they are still struggling emotionally with the Trump victory.

    But, but, but KL and I are commies, socialist scum according to you, wally … how can we be opposed to Putin (and his behaviour) but be for him at the same time?

    Off the meds again, are we?

    Watch that chair spin!

  125. Tom R permalink
    December 15, 2016 10:52 am

    If anyone is interested former AUSTRALIAN LABOR PARTY numbers man Eddie Obeid cops his sentence today.

    I hope the proverbial book is thrown at him. No easy sentence for him like his lib mates.

  126. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 15, 2016 10:54 am

    “They should form a group of like minded people and just top themselves or leave the country. go to a room, close the door and let out a loud collective blood curdling primal scream just to get some of their resentment out of their systems.”

    TB, Red’s under the beds was real last time around when Whitlam had a communist minister in cabinet! This time around it is just a bunch of sore losers.

    The establishment elites have been given a well-deserved boot up the backside by the people and they will now do anything possible to bring Trump down. They are very worried about Trump’s promise drain the leftist swamp.

  127. Tom R permalink
    December 15, 2016 10:59 am

    They are very worried about Trump’s promise drain the leftist swamp.

    “Leftist”? How did that word get in there> History being re-written as we watch.

    Perhaps he meant, ‘drain the swamp of Americans, and replace it with Russian sympathisers?

    U.S. Officials: Putin Personally Involved in U.S. Election Hack

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-officials-putin-personally-involved-u-s-election-hack-n696146

    Or Denialist rumps

     Normalizing Denial: Trump, Tillerson, and Climate RealityM

    https://www.thenation.com/article/normalizing-denial-trump-tillerson-and-climate-reality/

  128. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 15, 2016 11:01 am

    “how can we be opposed to Putin (and his behaviour) but be for him at the same time?”

    Shimples, lefties have no grasp of logic and feel no shame whatsoever about mouthing inconsistent ideas. Demented leftist loser Hitlery Klintoon said she needed “both a public and a private position”.

    After Bill said Hillary ate more pussy than he did I figured that the old beanflicker’s private position was usually with her head between Huma’s legs. No wonder Huma’s poor long-suffering husband was reduced to taking pics of his underutilised schlong!

  129. Tom R permalink
    December 15, 2016 11:01 am

  130. Tom R permalink
    December 15, 2016 11:03 am

    mouthing inconsistent ideas

    You mean like telling the world you are going to shirt front someone, and then congratulate the winner of an election said shirt front recipient helped create?

    THAT kind of inconsistent idea?

  131. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 15, 2016 11:07 am

    What a stupid and desperate response. You can do better than that, Tom R. And I thought you were a first-class troll.

  132. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 15, 2016 11:08 am

    Too funny: KL and TB have fallen for the latest “Reds Under The Beds” scare campaign!

    I can’t recall mentioning anything about ‘teh reds’ at all. Could you remind me please?

  133. Tom R permalink
    December 15, 2016 11:09 am

    Do WHILE SplatteredarsePOSTS
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            What a stupid and desperate response.
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  134. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 15, 2016 11:15 am

    KL, see your comment on this thread at December 14, 2016 11:05 am

  135. Tom R permalink
    December 15, 2016 11:21 am

    KL, see your comment on this thread at December 14, 2016 11:05 am

    I’ll bite.

    What does evidence of a foreign power manipulating a US election have to do with “reds under the bed”?

  136. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 15, 2016 11:21 am

    The establishment elites have been given a well-deserved boot up the backside by the people and they will now do anything possible to bring Trump down. They are very worried about Trump’s promise drain the leftist swamp.

    I think those on the establishment of the right are just as worried, remember, the repugs didn’t want him either, they all denounced trump and whatever he stands for.

    The political establishment of the left and the right are right to be worried, there is a groundswell of unhappiness coming from the people, from the bottom up. We are not represented by politicians, people are sick and tired of the corporocracy and the collusion between politicians, the wealthy elite and corporations. The Trickle down economics of neoliberalism [of the left and the right] has not and never did work, all it did was make the wealthy even wealthier. The revolution is in the air and if trump fails to deliver or manages to enrich himself and his mates at taxpayers expense, they’ll be baying for his blood.

  137. Tom R permalink
    December 15, 2016 11:29 am

    there is a groundswell of unhappiness coming from the people, from the bottom up.

    I’m sure those at the bottom who voted for trump to do anything for them are already considering buyers remorse AO. They got sold a dud by putin it seems

  138. Tom R permalink
    December 15, 2016 11:32 am

    Is yomm yabot?

  139. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 15, 2016 11:33 am

    Pauline hanson cashes in on the political revolution because the wealthy have diverted the blame of trickle down economics to immigrants. Guess who loves all the immigration? busiiness does, they try to keep wages down through low paid and exploited migrants. The govt targets the poor boat people [doing the dirty work of the wealthy again] and they get the hansonites and the bernardi’s screaming hate talk because they seriously are racist. Meanwhile business is trucking in the migrants by the tens of thousands each year and the stupid hansonites accept it without a murmer.

    It is the effects of globalisation and the way that has made inequality in wealth that hanson et al should be targeting, it is the angry people that vote for them that have been affected by the job losses and downturns, not the flotsam and jetsam of the sea.

    Guess who is laughing all the way to the caymans? 🙂

  140. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 15, 2016 11:33 am

    murmer = murmur

  141. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2016 12:07 pm

    Shimples, lefties have no grasp of logic and feel no shame whatsoever about mouthing inconsistent ideas. Demented leftist loser Hitlery Klintoon said she needed “both a public and a private position”.

    LOL!

    WITH a single tweet yesterday, Donald Trump wiped $2.7 billion off the share price of Lockheed Martin, after he slammed the cost of its F-35 stealth fighter.

    And a week ago, a Trump tweet caused Boeing shares to fall by more than one per cent.

    Those tweets were actually from Trump. However, a recent Twitter discussion got me thinking. What if a similar Trump tweet in the future is actually from hackers looking to profit? For example, let’s say a hacker buys shares in Boeing competitor Airbus. They then hack into Trump’s Twitter account, and tweet “I hear Airbus make very nice planes”. Shares in Airbus would probably go up as traders jump on the stock, figuring Trump may give the aircraft manufacturer some US government business. The hacker would then sell their shares at a profit, before anyone realised Trump had been impersonated.

    Now, this couldn’t possibly happen. Could it? Well, it turns out Trump’s Twitter account was “seriously hacked” in 2013.

    http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/hacking/what-if-donald-trumps-twitter-account-got-hacked/news-story/a13ff3e4ce10b0699a7de85f79dc6dc2

  142. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2016 12:12 pm

    The revolution is in the air and if trump fails to deliver or manages to enrich himself and his mates at taxpayers expense, they’ll be baying for his blood.

    Will history repeat?

  143. December 15, 2016 12:17 pm

    //platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  144. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2016 12:20 pm

    Sets a standard?

    We’ll see …

  145. Tom R permalink
    December 15, 2016 1:51 pm

    Guess who is laughing all the way to the caymans?

    Laughing in the Hiding Bush

    WITH a single tweet yesterday, Donald Trump wiped $2.7 billion off the share price of Lockheed Martin

    Jobsen Groewth! How much did he add to the cost of our orders?

    Let this be a lesson to fellow politicians

    Yea, the libs are just quaking in their boots aren’t they. Parakeelia who?

  146. Tom R permalink
    December 15, 2016 2:02 pm

  147. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2016 4:14 pm

    BREAKING: We’re a Christian society: Dutton. “Founded on values like locking up foreigners until they set themselves on fire”, he added.

    Isn’t that a Christian Tradition … ?

    There’s actually quite a few … I could be creative but it may attract a second cumming! 😉 😉

  148. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2016 4:31 pm

    erm, we are a Secular Society …

    Australia is a secular country. But it is not one where the majority of the population has turned their backs on religion, even if the numbers doing so are increasing with each census. Nor is Australia a country where the state has no interaction with religion. Secularism in Australia means no state church.May 13, 2015

    Section 116 of the Constitution provides: The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.[80]

    So why do they say a prayer in Parliament at each sitting and why do they foist chaplains on state schools and why do the Prime Meddler and the Wannabe sit in the same church before each new Parliament … and why was I asked for my religion on so many occasions by the government … and why does Dopey Dutton deliberately persecute people of a different faith to himself … (hint he went to St Paul’s Anglican) …

    His paranoid website is interesting to say the least …

  149. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2016 4:34 pm

    I suppose you can check it yourself … beware the automatic collection of PC data tho’ …

  150. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2016 4:34 pm

    Here ya go …

    http://www.peterdutton.com.au/PrivacyPolicyDisclaimer/tabid/67/Default.aspx

  151. Walrus permalink
    December 15, 2016 5:47 pm

    “… beware the automatic collection of PC data tho’ …”

    Kinda like an arsehole blogger we all know who ran off with some email addresses.

  152. Tom R permalink
    December 15, 2016 6:15 pm

    Kinda like an arsehole blogger we all know who ran off with some email addresses.

    Wow, talk about ‘reds under the beds’ (going by your definition anyway 😉 )

  153. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2016 6:29 pm

    LOL!

  154. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 15, 2016 7:37 pm

    Kinda like an arsehole blogger we all know who ran off with some email addresses.

    Correct!

  155. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2016 9:24 pm

    it wasn’t just that it was naming commenters …

  156. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2016 9:25 pm

    whoooo … so bitter! I almost feel liberalated!

  157. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2016 10:39 am

    Thank God for a Christensen* upbringing …

    *sarc alert

    Controversial coalition MP George Christensen has praised Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte’s drug war while calling for a “round up” of all suspected drug traffickers and producers.

    Posting a link to an article on his Facebook page about Mr Duterte’s boast about having killed criminals himself while he was mayor of Davao, Mr Christensen wrote “A leader who personally sees off drug dealers? And the problem is?”.

  158. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 16, 2016 12:09 pm

    Fine chap that Christiansen!

  159. Walrus permalink
    December 16, 2016 12:29 pm

    “Fine chap that Christiansen!”

    A man of decisive action

  160. Tom R permalink
    December 16, 2016 1:14 pm

    A man of decisive action

    INdecisive I think you mean 😉

  161. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 16, 2016 1:22 pm

    Christensen tries to be as outrageous as possible to keep the votes of the extreme right, he’d be worried about his voters choosing to go hanson. Especially as the Nats don’t get much value out of their partnership with the libs, it wouldn’t take much to shift them, so christensen is going to be as ‘hanson’ as he can possibly be. Has he wrapped himself in the flag yet?

  162. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2016 3:52 pm

    INdecisive I think you mean

    Are they comparing dick sizes or brain sizes in the photos?

  163. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2016 5:43 pm

    “Fine chap that Christiansen!”

    A man of decisive action

    Like I said … nothing like a Christensen* upbringing … thanks again for proving my point … 😀

  164. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 16, 2016 6:13 pm

    And the were those here who made similar comments to Terri Butler.

    Now she has been forced to make an insincere apology AND pay up cash!

  165. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2016 7:08 pm

    Now she has been forced to make an insincere apology AND pay up cash!

    Don’t be a, wally, ToM, Butler made a “public” apology … and paid up for a political blunder … comments here are not held to the same scrutiny …

    … although we could … particularly with screaming accusations against certain unions BOO! subsequently found to have no substance … I’ve never seen an apology yet …

    In fact apologies on TGT are few and far between … I should know! (Having made a couple and expected a few)

  166. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 16, 2016 10:24 pm

    …Now she has been forced to make an insincere apology AND pay up cash!…

    oh? so the snot nosed young lib who has been funded for the entire case, doesn’t believe n free speech, or, he’s happy for free speech but only when it’s his?

  167. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2016 9:12 am

    So they’re snot nosed young libs? I’d be interested in your evidence for that.

    In any event, a characteristic of the left is the wide brush slander, and it’s great to see a dumb ALP politician make a forced grovelling (but insincere apology) AND cough up plenty of cash!

  168. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2016 9:16 am

    And TB, you’re another that goes for the broad brush bulls**t

    I’ve never been critical of unions as institutions.

    I’ve been very precise of my criticism-
    * Union bullying as an industrial tactic
    * Unions in construction, parts on manufacturing
    * The unsavoury influence of many affiliated unions over ALP preselection and policy

    I’ve never ben critical of lots of unions and in fact I’ve complimented a number of them over the years. So cut the crap.

  169. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2016 9:17 am

    * Unions in construction, parts of manufacturing and mining

  170. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2016 11:19 am

    I’ve been very precise of my criticism-

    ROFL. Yea, like you were with your recent welfare comments lol

    I’d be interested in your evidence for that.

    FREE SPEECH! 😉

  171. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2016 11:20 am

    and in fact I’ve complimented a number of them over the years

    I’d be interested in your evidence for that.

  172. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2016 11:24 am

    the billionaires have taken over @nobby15 America is officially an Oligarchical Collectivism

    Yea, but putin IS an Oligarch

    One thing about Russia, they never do things by halves. From the Czars, to Communism, and now Capitalism, it all in at the deep end with them.

  173. December 17, 2016 11:48 am

    “I’ve never been critical of unions as institutions.”

    That’s kind of like saying you’ve never been critical of society, just the people who inhabit it.

  174. December 17, 2016 11:49 am

    BTW where’s ToSY.

  175. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2016 11:58 am

    That’s kind of like saying you’ve never been critical of society, just the people who inhabit it.

    🙂

    BTW where’s ToSY.

    Perhaps he banned himself, since you weren’t going to comply.

  176. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2016 12:13 pm

    I see malcayman has been out sucker punching just like the norty Unions were allegedly doing. Larfable.

  177. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2016 12:16 pm

    dutton shown to be a tool again

    “It would be smart for Peter Dutton to check his facts before talking down a great local state school,” the spokesman said.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/brisbane-school-accused-of-political-correctness-revels-in-christmas-cheer-20161216-gtcpwm.html

  178. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2016 12:51 pm

    You see, that’s just dumb and shows a lack of attention.

    Which union outside construction, manufacturing or mining have I been critical of?

  179. Shane in QLD permalink
    December 17, 2016 1:19 pm

    Apparently somewhere along the line Tony had a go at how I derive my income. I never saw it as I have been away with one of the worst weeks of my life including getting out of Emergency again only yesterday.
    I will tell you all how my income is derived.
    Unlike a financial planner who charges for their service then gets a commission for products recommended where the commission actually materially reduces the income of their clients. I know I have a financial planner and the cost is revealed at 1% of my fund IRRESPECTIVE if it makes money for me or not.
    I operate like this.
    1) My clients are charged $0 by me no matter how long or how much the cost to myself is involved.
    2) I do not charge my clients anything if finance is not secured, not one cent for my time or any costs associated and in this market there are many.
    3) The fees and rates my client receives from a financial institution are EXACTLY the same as they would receive if they went to the financial institution direct themselves. In other words there is ABSOLUTELY NO COST to my client in any way shape or form.
    4) A financial institution pays a commission as it is cheaper than employees who they would have to pay regardless of whether they write a loan. They also would have to provide a building, super, long service leave, holidays and all the other requirements along with payroll tax.
    5) I NEVER recommend a client refinance if it is of no material benefit to them. Not only is it against my own standards it is actually illegal to do so under the NCCP.
    6) If a loan is repaid within 12 months 100% of my income is taken back from me. For the following 12 months it is 50%. Who else risks their income being taken from them 23 months after they have provided the service. There is no leeway on this so even if a customer dies the money is taken back.

    Clients use brokers for convenience and also because many of us have been in the industry for many years with long term experience in finance. Clients like someone also to shop around for them and come up with options for them to choose from in relation to their finance.

    I take the good with the bad and hope that my service is rewarded with recommendation.

    Once again the cost to my clients is NIL.

    Yes there are cowboys and those of us with honesty and integrity cheer when they are caught. However I can tell you there is far more cowboy activity in the institutions themselves and their own employees as I have refused loans a client could not afford only to have the financial institution give them the loan via their own branch employees.

    So I am proud of how I derive my income.

  180. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2016 2:53 pm

    Which union outside construction, manufacturing or mining have I been critical of?

    Health Workers?

    I’m pretty sure you’d be behind the SDA though 😉

  181. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2016 2:58 pm

    Once again the cost to my clients is NIL.

    I was horrified when I first read this, and then realised you meant ZERO 😉

  182. TB Queensland permalink
    December 17, 2016 3:15 pm

    I’m pretty sure you’d be behind the SDA though

    And the FFA, ACCI, ABA … MTIA, AIG … yep there’s a lot you haven’t condemned … oh, of course … the Master Builders Federation of Aus. 😀

  183. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2016 3:35 pm

    Health Workers?

    No, I don’t think you’ll find any evidence of that. I think even AO might agree that I’ve said her union needs more support.

    I think you’re confused because I’ve pointed to the growth in health bureaucracy over the past 20 years, rather than devoting the resources to direct nursing and health care.

  184. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2016 3:48 pm

    No, I don’t think you’ll find any evidence of that.

    With support like this, what more could the Unions want 😉

    Unions (and employer organisations) now days have a range of training and superannuation funds that provide “overseas study tours”. I wonder whether a review of expenditure during these “study tours” would reveal similar patterns of personal expenditure on escorts and prostitutes.
    I don’t think Thomson’s behaviour is particularly isolated

    https://theguttertrash.com/2012/08/02/damning-hsu-report-claims-scalp-of-union-boss/#comment-3560

    So, ‘support’ as in, a witch hunt 😉

    Well, we had that, how’d that work out fer yawl?

  185. shaneinqld permalink
    December 17, 2016 3:59 pm

    Tom R : LOL

  186. TB Queensland permalink
    December 17, 2016 4:02 pm

    Chuckle …

  187. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2016 4:08 pm

    So… that’s anti union? You’ll have to do better.

  188. December 17, 2016 4:40 pm

    “So… that’s anti union?”

    It didn’t really strike me as a ringing endorsement.

  189. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2016 6:02 pm

    Which union outside construction, manufacturing or mining have I been critical of?

    Firefighters?

    Here is Victoria, the ALP government is about to sell out a volunteer organisation (CFA) to appease a unionised metro group of firemen.

    https://theguttertrash.com/2016/05/30/newspoll-coalition-could-lose-election/#comment-127946

    This is becoming as embarrassing as your recent ‘soft on welfare’ outburst that wasn’t 😉

  190. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2016 6:19 pm

    Where’s a sane person who supports Peter Marshall? That’s right… there are none.

    But you’re wrong about health unions. You really get confused between being critical of the unsavoury and thuggish behavior of some officials and being critical of actual unions.

  191. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 18, 2016 12:51 am

    Well, I like the way you operate shane 🙂

    I do hope you are well?

  192. Shane in QLD permalink
    December 18, 2016 9:25 am

    The last sentence of this link shows the hypocrisy of the Republicans. Much like the LNP here at home.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/trump-appoints-mick-mulvaney-to-white-house-budget-director-20161217-gtdegn.html

  193. shaneinqld permalink
    December 18, 2016 9:25 am

    Thanks AO. All good at the moment.

  194. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 18, 2016 10:18 am

    What a great gift idea! A coffee machine that replaces a teaspoon. Ideal for TB.

    (I’ve always thought instant coffee shouldn’t be called “coffee” in the same way cordial can’t be called fruit juice. Instant coffee should be labelled “coffee flavoured drink” )

  195. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 18, 2016 10:58 am

    The perfect christmas gift for TB “and a majority of Queenslanders.”

    hehe, I know reb. When those machines first started appearing I took a closer look at them and saw they were made for blend 43. I wondered who on earth would buy a machine to put in instant coffee? Instead of just adding water to a spoonful of powder in a mug, these machines work by making the process more complicated – what a brilliant marketing idea!!

    Does anyone buy them?

  196. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 18, 2016 11:08 am

  197. December 18, 2016 11:23 am

    “”I wondered who on earth would buy a machine to put in instant coffee? “”

    Bogans from Queensland who want to appear “sophisticated”.

    To be fair tho, I imagine TB would have one for “international roast..”

  198. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 18, 2016 11:55 am

    I went to a friend’s for our xmas get together (8-10 of us get together about 3-4 times a year to catch up) and with the help of much alcohol, reflect upon 20 years of enduring friendship, life and work.

    I made a tiramisu for the first time and finished it at 0030 hrs before getting up at 0530 hrs for work and thought it really wouldn’t be very nice. Well, the heavy blend of tia maria, XO coffee liqueur and amoretto in the dish went down quite well! Those liqueurs are not usually found in my home so i bought the miniature bottles just for the dessert. I’ve decided that I love all the different shaped bottles of alcohol, all the creative and fancy designs, a bit like perfume bottles, they take my eye. I always think I could start a collection of them but would have nowhere to put them.

    Tell me folks, enduring blog friends, if you could or do already, collect something, what is it?

  199. TB Queensland permalink
    December 18, 2016 12:22 pm

    To be fair tho, I imagine TB would have one for “international roast..”

    Actually I haven’t touched “instant” coffee for decades, hate the stuff

    I own one of these (used to have a machine I loaded up with beans and water – but when I pulled it apart it was covered in green gunge – straight into the bin!)

    I now own one of these …

    .

  200. TB Queensland permalink
    December 18, 2016 12:34 pm

    KL, I actually have a collection of … miniature and full size liquors many from our overseas trips … (we have a cocktail cabinet) … my daughter just gave us a bottle of Pavan as a thank you (she “borrows” bits of booze for her cooking now and then) now there’s a lovely bottle.

    I also have decent collection of books The Minister gave me a copy of Charles Bean’s Official History of Australia in the War of 1914-18 Vol I & Vol II … The Story of Anzac – books are over 80 years old …

  201. Tom R permalink
    December 18, 2016 12:47 pm

    Tell me folks, enduring blog friends, if you could or do already, collect something, what is it?

    Calories 😦

  202. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 18, 2016 2:04 pm

    I have a collection of antique maps and atlases.

    It’s interesting to see how the world changes.

  203. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 18, 2016 2:14 pm

    my daughter just gave us a bottle of Pavan as a thank you

    Ooh, that is pretty TB.
    A cocktail cabinet eh, that’s a really neat idea, I’m sure if i had one, it would have been depleted many times over, no pretty bottles to keep.

    It’s interesting to see how the world changes.

    Is it the world or the maps?

    I mean the interpretations, I didn’t realise that there are some maps [?projections] that showed the western countries as larger than they really were.

    Or is that a myth?

    An interesting read…and debate below.

    Review — ‘Not Quite Australian: How temporary migration is changing the nation’
    https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/review–not-quite-australian-how-temporary-migration-is-changing-the-nation,9852#.WFW4amaFY2A.twitter

  204. Tom R permalink
    December 18, 2016 3:01 pm

    A station in Victoria’s south-west would reduce the smelter’s vulnerability to outages and could access Clean Energy Finance Corporation funds, Hunt says

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/dec/18/greg-hunt-offers-alcoa-new-power-station-in-bid-to-save-portland-smelter?CMP=share_btn_tw

    One would hope that the new power station would be run via clean energy then. Also, it would have been nice if they had fought this hard for Holden etc.

    This part piqued my interest though

    Earlier this month, the smelter was crippled when it lost power for five-and-a-half hours after an interconnector from Victoria to South Australia failed.

    Where were the headlines blaming wind power for ……………. supplying Alcoa with cheap power?

    Or did the wind farms take down the inter-connector

    Maybe uhlmann can clear this up for us 😉

  205. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 18, 2016 3:31 pm

    Do you seriously think aluminum smelting can run off windpower?

    Aluminum is described as electricity solidified.

  206. shaneinqld permalink
    December 18, 2016 3:47 pm

    My 80 year old mother just rang me all upset and stressed. She got a letter stating that as she had not returned a form her pension is being stopped. Naturally she was so distressed on the phone. This LNP mongrel government that seems to not care how many people they upset. They sack so many in Centrelink and then have no one to actually look at a file before sending threatening letters out. They also sent a letter to my friends who have a SEVERELY DISABLED 25 year old son asking their son to advise why he should remain on the DSP. What do they think he is going to do, miraculously recover after 25 years. This heartless government deserves the wrath of anyone with conscience. PS. Their son died last Friday week while I was at my mothers celebrating her 80th. Died on my mothers birthday. Terrible last 2 weeks and now mum rings me all upset and sick with worry.

    No doubt she will have to call and spend dog knows how long in a queue for no reason at all.

    I detest this heartless government more every week. $50,000,000,000 tax cuts while slashing services. now I am pissed

  207. December 18, 2016 4:16 pm

    I have quite a collection of prescription medications.

  208. December 18, 2016 4:17 pm

    That’s just awful Shane.

  209. TB Queensland permalink
    December 18, 2016 4:33 pm

    Cruel stuff, Shane.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    And now its seems a REPUBLIC is more important than jobs n growth, AAA rating, floundering economy, nil wage growth and the heartless crap that Shane has just highlighted …

    Wasn’t a republic to be put on the “back burner”?

    Does TurnAbbott realise that many republicans and I believe HE was the reason we lost the last Referendum?

    Has this rich dick ever actually achieved anything for Australia?

  210. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 18, 2016 4:41 pm

    I think the govt deserves every bit of your wrath shane, sorry about your sad times.

    I note that malcolm’s had to perform some robocalling because the pensioners are worried about losing their pensions, these elderly people are their voter base, if that’s what they do to them, what’s in store for the rest of us?

    Oh well, as long as gina, the other cronies and corporate rent seekers are happy, they don’t care about anything else, it’s big time neoliberalism with malcolm, trickle up and out to the caymans.

  211. Tom R permalink
    December 18, 2016 8:08 pm

    Sad to hear the story Shane, hope the pension stuff gets worked out. From what I hear, there is so much going wrong with welfare, that they are basically reverting any changes until they sort it, so hopefully that gets reverted too.

    Do you seriously think aluminum smelting can run off windpower?

    Well, maybe not one of them, but then, that is misunderstanding the new power system structure.

    Obviously, wind power WAS powering it to some degree, before the inter-connector went down …. again.

    I’m still waiting to hear from uhlmann about how that one was wind powers fault to, and how then the smelter shut down because of wind ‘intermittency’ lol

    malcolm’s had to perform some robocalling

    I think you mean ‘coward’s punch’ AO 😉

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/the-cowards-punch-of-australian-politics-ministers-livid-over-robocaller-leanne-20161215-gtbp06.html

  212. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 18, 2016 8:20 pm

    Is it the world or the maps?

    I mean borders and boundaries. Maps are records of how countries have changed and developed or conquered, or lost their empires.

    My favourites are the ones with dotted lines to show unmapped parts of the coastline. Cartographers used to just put dotted lines to estimate the shape of the cost -for example when it was presumed that Tasmania was joined to Australia.

    I’m quite keen on them, but I don’t have so much time to find more these days.

  213. Tom R permalink
    December 19, 2016 9:58 am

    fer yomm, just to wet yer whistle perhaps 😉

    http://www.openculture.com/category/maps

  214. Walrus permalink
    December 19, 2016 10:14 am

    “Tell me folks, enduring blog friends, if you could or do already, collect something, what is it?”

    I have 7 barbeques

  215. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2016 10:38 am

    LOL! I thought you’d collect money, wally? 😀

  216. Walrus permalink
    December 19, 2016 10:45 am

    “LOL! I thought you’d collect money”

    That too………..I am addicted to BBQ shops and different cooking methods like smoked meats, tandoor and spits and even hibashi style cooking.

  217. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 19, 2016 10:45 am

    That looks interesting Tom R . I’ll have to look later

  218. Walrus permalink
    December 19, 2016 10:46 am

    I think subconsciously I’m trying to fuck up the Greenies by having the largest carbon fucking footprint on the planet 🙂

  219. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 19, 2016 11:13 am

    I used to have a collection of teapots, there was something about the different sizes, the shapes and the decoration. One year, I decided that there was too much clutter in the house and they had to go, so off to a charity they all went.

    I still can’t go past a shop with a nice teapot on display without stopping to have a look and a feel of it in my hands and enjoy the artwork.

    The thing is, more clutter has replaced the old, there is going to be another de-clutter coming up very soon!

  220. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 19, 2016 11:15 am

    That too………..I am addicted to BBQ shops and different cooking methods like smoked meats, tandoor and spits and even hibashi style cooking.

    What is your favourite meat to eat walrus?

  221. Tom R permalink
    December 19, 2016 11:19 am

    Apparently “projections” is the new “non core”

  222. Walrus permalink
    December 19, 2016 11:34 am

    “What is your favourite meat to eat walrus?”

    Lamb shoulder hickory smoked on a kamado for 40 minutes then wrapped in a foil tray,with the fat well scored with a Stanley knife and seasoned with olive oil salt pepper loads of garlic, rosemary, a good sized sliced onion and then completely sealed in foil in the foil tray then slow cooked a further 4 hours minimum

    No need to slice it up as at the end of cooking process the fat should have dissolved into the meat along with the onion and much of the garlic. It literally falls of the bone when you pick it up

  223. December 19, 2016 11:40 am

    “”The thing is, more clutter has replaced the old, there is going to be another de-clutter coming up very soon!””

    Reminds me of the old joke..

    LETTERS TO THE EDITOR

    Dear Editor

    Thank you for your recent article on hoarding…

    I’ve put it with the others…

  224. December 19, 2016 11:41 am

    So when are we all going round to Walrus’s place for a barbie….?

    I’ll go, as long as TB doesn’t get to the choose the wine..

  225. Walrus permalink
    December 19, 2016 12:01 pm

    Pork baby back ribs, pork belly and beef brisket also work well in a smoker. Slow and Low cooking is the best

    And the hibashi does fantastic salmon and prawns on skewers. I try not to use gas as the different flavours of wood with charcoal tastes much better.

  226. Walrus permalink
    December 19, 2016 12:03 pm

    Every household should have one of these.

  227. December 19, 2016 12:05 pm

    What is it, a bomb?

  228. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 19, 2016 12:05 pm

    Mmm, that meat does sound very yummy!

    I think subconsciously I’m trying to fuck up the Greenies by having the largest carbon fucking footprint on the planet

    I still don’t buy the argument that to lift people in third world countries out of poverty, we need to make people here just as poor by job and industry losses along with the total destruction of our own environment.

    We’ve yet to see how Trump’s capitalist mates will help the mostly poor and less educated people who voted him in.

    The Hypocrisy of ‘Helping’ the Poor

  229. December 19, 2016 12:06 pm

    My barbeque comes complete with staff…

  230. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2016 12:19 pm

    It literally falls of the bone when you pick it up

    I’m impressed, wally! Will try that next year …

    The Minister “talked me into” 😉 getting a Cordon Bleu outdoor kitchen from BBQ’s galore (liked it ’cause its modular) … I love it! 4 burner rotisserie, with pretty good sized grill and plate (breakfast for ten on Saturday), bench then, corner unit and then two gas burners one with a with plate …

    This model (not configuration)

    https://images.easyweddings.com.au/s3/nop-images/Live/ProductPrimary/4e96e081-b762-4f55-9200-614737ef65e8.png?quality=80&format=jpg&scale=canvas&width=616&height=450

    I’m also a big fan of the original BBQ liners from …

    http://www.bbqezy.com.au/

    My son smokes a lot of meat too … makes a fab beef jerky …

  231. Walrus permalink
    December 19, 2016 12:24 pm

    “This model (not configuration)”

    That’s an outdoor kitchen

  232. Walrus permalink
    December 19, 2016 12:25 pm

    “What is it, a bomb?”

    Its a Kamado

  233. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 19, 2016 12:26 pm

    My son smokes a lot of meat too … makes a fab beef jerky …

    ugh, sounds ‘orrible TB!

  234. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2016 12:28 pm

    Rich benefactors promise to lift the poor out of poverty, but it was their outsourcing decisions that made people poor in the first place.

    That’s what Herr Hitler said to the German people in 1936 … and a decade later?????

    Many ordinary folk are blissfully unaware of the way they are actually misinformed, deceived, cheated and misled … constantly …

    What really pisses me off is that we all suffer the same fate, even tho’ we have no opportunity for a say in the decision … global markets and trickle down economics are just two of the western world myths … we all pay for …

  235. Walrus permalink
    December 19, 2016 12:31 pm

    “Will try that next year ”

    You should end up with something like this……..

  236. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2016 12:35 pm

    ugh, sounds ‘orrible TB!

    ‘Til ya try it, KL! I’m lucky if I get any … my grandkids usually beat me to the lot!

    Bet, wally, has tasted properly smoked meat? (I’m a big fan of hickory)

  237. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2016 12:38 pm

    You should end up with something like this……..

    OK, wally! I have a variety of smoking chips, only used them once … with a chicken …

  238. Walrus permalink
    December 19, 2016 12:59 pm

    “(I’m a big fan of hickory)”

    Ditto………..I prefer it savoury flavour over apple or maple. As you probably know mesquite should be used sparingly.

    I suggest you get yourself a smoking box (Bunnings $10 from memory) which is a metal box about 200mm long and 100mm wide with a metal lid with holes in it top and bottom. Soak the chips for 30 minutes then toss them in it and place box on top of coals.

    Also try and steer clear of fire starters when using charcoal or other solid fuels. I use one of these to light the charcoal

    Once lit I attach this to side of smoker ($49.95 Bunnings) to circulate air into the charcoal

    Then I reach into my esky

    and cruise into the afternoon

    Happy Daze 🙂

  239. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2016 1:33 pm

    Hey! Like the esky (although not an esky really) …

    Also try and steer clear of fire starters when using charcoal or other solid fuels. I use one of these to light the charcoal

    I’ve just built somewhere to place my renovated garden bench (mentioned a few months ago) I’ve got a deep, three legged, cast iron, fire pit (table topped in summer), I burn charcoal (gone away from timber) … thanks for the advice …

    Love the “esky” … would look good on our deck too!!!!

  240. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2016 1:36 pm

    Then I found this little bewdy …

    http://www.tommybahama.com/en/Mahogany-Rolling-Party-Cooler/p/TH33751-498

  241. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 19, 2016 2:00 pm

  242. Walrus permalink
    December 19, 2016 2:01 pm

    “Then I found this little bewdy …”

    Mmmmm…….thats quite nice too.

    Although because we are a bit elevated here we do tend to get alot of salty air so timber finishes start to look pretty crappy after 2 or 3 years no matter where is stored.

    I got ours at Costco ($249)

  243. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 19, 2016 2:09 pm

    I can’t understand this craze for ‘pulled’ meats of any kind.
    Why pay for something that has been pulled apart and stringy to make it look bigger in size (not fooling me 🙂 )
    Any baby can make a mess like that.
    Why not ask for someone to spoon it into your mouth or pre-masticate it for you?!

  244. Shane in QLD permalink
    December 19, 2016 2:10 pm

    Well I have ten bricks, five on each side and a solid steel plate for the top. The wind howls through and the smoke nearly kills you half the time. But it is all I can afford and it still does the trick. IMO I think if you have a too fancy BBQ you may as well cook in the kitchen. Part of the fun is getting the bloody thing to light and work on having hot coals. Nothing like a bit of charcoal in your meal to clean your teeth and block you up :).

    Why is it that only a few years ago if you mentioned meat falling of the bone it was considered over cooked and gross and you were nothing short of the worst cook/chef in the world. Now it is all the rage. I have cooked it that way for many years no matter what the critics said.

  245. shaneinqld permalink
    December 19, 2016 2:13 pm

    Thanks for your concerns regarding my mother I will update you after I call her tonight. Not sure if she would have gone to bingo today or been too stressed about it all. I don’t think the morons have any idea how panicked a lot of the elderly become. Be going to her local good for nothing MP next month if it is not sorted and giving him a piece of my mind. He is after all one the morons who have instituted this crap. I will remind her of all this at the next election.

  246. shaneinqld permalink
    December 19, 2016 2:14 pm

    AO. I agree, pulled is the most ridiculous word. It is simply tender, or falling off the bone IMO.

  247. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 19, 2016 2:18 pm

    The Liberal Party is essentially a money-making machine for lobbyists like Photias and Campbell. Cameron is getting hammered for exposing their stooges and supporting reform – no surprise there.

  248. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2016 3:19 pm

    AO. I agree, pulled is the most ridiculous word. It is simply tender, or falling off the bone IMO.

    No, no … Shane/AO … you actually pull the meat off the bone with a couple of forks (that’s one way) … pulled duck is really nice too ..

    Why not ask for someone to spoon it into your mouth or pre-masticate it for you?!

    Isn’t masticate a most disturbing word … 😕

  249. Walrus permalink
    December 19, 2016 3:46 pm

    “Why is it that only a few years ago if you mentioned meat falling of the bone it was considered over cooked and gross and you were nothing short of the worst cook/chef in the world.”

    Slow and low is basically used for fairly tough “musclie” meats that need tenderising. Lamb shoulder is a very economical cut being usually around 60% of the price of lamb leg. I prefer it over spit lamb leg as it effectively marinates whilst cooking.

    You can do it traditional Greek or give it a Morrocan touch. Many of the Middle Eastern countries have their own distinctive flavourings.

    Beef brisket is a real tough one that also need slow cooking as the brisket area supports a lot of the weight of the animal hence its tough.

    My next project will be trying to cook “Mediterranean” goat. Its becoming more and more popular

  250. Tom R permalink
    December 19, 2016 3:57 pm

    if only these recipes were poetic, this blog would be complete 😉

  251. Recollections permalink
    December 19, 2016 3:58 pm

    (Dice, vice, and special drawing rights.)

  252. December 19, 2016 4:43 pm

    “”if only these recipes were poetic””

    Or with a bit of innuendo…

    Is Walrus really NIgella…. ? 😯

  253. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2016 4:45 pm

    My next project will be trying to cook “Mediterranean” goat. Its becoming more and more popular

    Hope it smells better than my Bosnian neighbours attempts on his wood fired BBQ … placed inconveniently alongside my side fence … yuk …

    And he refused the offer of my old (still in good condition) six burner when I replaced it!

  254. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2016 4:47 pm

    Is Walrus really NIgella…. ?

    Nup, no double entendre just straight to the point … big boobs maybe? 😀

  255. Walrus permalink
    December 19, 2016 4:59 pm

    Her new series is to be called “Forkable”

  256. Tom R permalink
    December 19, 2016 5:07 pm

    Or with a bit of innuendo…

    And why not I say! And no double entendre’s included 😉

  257. December 19, 2016 7:49 pm

    smh/washpo,,,,The CIA, according to The Washington Post, has now determined that hackers working for the Russian government worked to tilt the 2016 election to Donald Trump,,,,

    smh,,,,This has actually been obvious for months,,,,

    # ,, No the fcuk it hasn`t. They ALL swallowed the `her-turn` bullshit, hook, line n`sinker. (-: (-: (-: (-: Hasn`t it been so funny this week watching braying-media try and re-write history. (-: (-:

    ,,,,but the agency was reluctant to state that conclusion before the election,,,,blah blah blah

    # ,, according to aj/pbs `teh-agency` won`t go on-record or on-camera to confirm anything(#chuckle) despite `repeated` requests (-: (-: (-: (-:

    # ,, The pilot episode is still a lot of fun! Braying save-the-swampers media will continue to provide many laffs. Tune in Jan-20 for Season-1. (-:

  258. December 19, 2016 8:04 pm

    my,,,,Bosnian neighbours attempts on his wood fired BBQ .. placed inconveniently alongside my side fence,,,,

    # ,, check`ya local/state regs on wood-fires, most places mandate 15-metres for flues, chimneys, yard-burners etc from `other` structures, particularly `other-folks` property.

  259. TB Queensland permalink
    December 19, 2016 11:26 pm

    check`ya local/state regs on wood-fires,

    do you actually have any neighbours, tbagz?

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