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well done malcayman

It looks like our msm was correct, malcaymans attack on Shorten WAS a game changer 😉

Surfing great Kelly Slater has called for a “serious” shark cull in the waters off the island of Réunion, after a surfer was killed in the area last week, bringing the number of attacks to 20 since 2011.
The 11-time world champion posted to his Instagram account, saying there was a “clear imbalance happening in the ocean there” and the French government “needs to figure this out ASAP”.

And not just on Reunion!

As a friend recently observed – How would bushwalkers feel in there were wild packs of hungry wolves roaming parkland?

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/kelly-slater-calls-for-serious-shark-cull-on-reunion-island-20170227-gulzcr.html

It’s probably because pooleen hanson rabbitted on about the fact that he gave money to an Islamic institution, and then held him out, and only him, as an example of salaries gone mad.

Pauline Hanson is a f***wit. And I don’t think rational people support her and her redneck mates.

She’s popular in Queensland you know.

But the Greens seem to want to pay this guy plenty without saying it.

THis woman is destroying the ABC

That was kinda in the job description 😉

Guthrie needs to stop and take a breath

Why? She is doing precisely what she has been tasked with. As bad as she is, don’t take it out on her, take it out on malcayman, who is driving this.

And to think, the abc bent over backwards to appease him before the election that saw Labor get turfed out. Idiots!

CLASS WARS LIBERAL STYLE … IS THIS CHEMICAL WARFARE AGAINST THE POOREST AUSTRALIANS?

Well i clicked on the link and it said this

That’s how much a typical smoker could save if they switched to e-cigarettes but the Therapeutic Goods Administration last month ruled to keep the quitting devices illegal.

So nothing has changed. The quitting devices were illegal and the new decision keeps them illegal. So what is your point?

Shane,,,,every business only employs enough people to do a passable job, no more and no less ( well sometimes[#often] less ),,,,

# ,, yep agree, and it is also another weakness being entrenched into our system so that china and india can eat our lunch.

+++++

Hey Teebz, mendleson is probably a baccy-stooge. They have been claiming unstudied `vapes` are `much` safer since day-one, and big-baccy has been buying them up. Also funny to see you making the `safer-smoke` argument too, when l said `that` team-nanny roxon jumped all over me. To me, outlawing the thousands of chemicals in smokes was also a no-brainer that would have gone well with the military-grade packaging. lnstead of just tax-hiking consumers onto black market.

and 95 per cent safer

Got a link fer that?

The dangers of buying electronic cigarettes

Some overseas studies suggest that electronic cigarettes containing nicotine may be dangerous, delivering unreliable doses of nicotine (above or below the stated quantity), or containing toxic chemicals or carcinogens, or leaking nicotine. Leaked nicotine is a poisoning hazard for the user of electronic cigarettes, as well as others around them, particularly children. Dangerous and lethal doses of nicotine can be absorbed through the skin. Electronic cigarettes containing substances other than nicotine have not been assessed for safety.

https://www.tga.gov.au/community-qa/electronic-cigarettes

Personally, I’d think it prudent to determine the safety of these things before pushing their potential. I know for a fact my son, who never smoked, is now hooked on these things. He now has smokers cough, after only six months. And is getting every bug he comes in contact with.

They may be ‘illegal’ as a Therapeutic , but they are being sold by the truck load as a recreational product. Personally, I’d like to see them banned as that as well until more/some studies are done as to their effects.

fer the swampy thing. You seem in need 😉

Or maybe an incomplete imbecile

That seems closer 😉

Although, not sure about ‘any’ action.

As I said, all e-cigs seem to do is re-invigorate the ‘cool’ smoking. And, we really don’t know the implications. As I said, I’ve watched my son go through … well, what I did when I started smoking the real things (long kicked now)

Yesterday Mr Abbott released the advice prepared by his department
……….
Labor’s health spokeswoman, Julia Gillard, said RU486 should be dealt with like every other pharmaceutical, by the experts at the Therapeutic Goods Administration.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/ban-on-abortion-pill-to-stay/2005/11/15/1132016796635.html

From your link nil

In February 2006 parliament – following a passionate conscience vote – stripped then health minister Tony Abbott of the right to veto the drug and handed regulatory control to the TGA.

yabot tried to stop the TGA from evaluating it, because of “advice prepared by his department”

It does take a while for these things to go through an assessment period.

It could have been earlier if yabot hadn’t played dog

In February 2006 parliament – following a passionate conscience vote – stripped then health minister Tony Abbott of the right to veto the drug

Then why did it take to 2012 for the TGA to give the drug the green light? Sounds like some politics was going on. Abbott was just following the advice he received. ALP deadbeats wanted the drug legalised no matter how dangerous it may or may no have been

What? Did all those ALP appointees stir up the peasants!?

Irrelevant who appointed them. It happened under THIS grubmint.

Interesting to note, this is about the only time this grubmint has refused to intervene with an “independent” agency

In February 2006 parliament – following a passionate conscience vote – stripped then health minister Tony Abbott of the right to veto the drug and handed regulatory control to the TGA.

By the way that statement sounds like lefties throwing their weight around. Same goes for TB saying those smoking things should be legalised against TGA advice. RU486 was thought to be dangerous at the time. Abbott just followed Departmental advice.

Why is it that Labor supporters always play politics with the lives of people.

BUT LESS REVENUE for the arsehole government ruining every true Australian’s life … bit by fkn bit …

REVELATION!

No TB. e-cigarettes are still illegal because the TGA says so. If you want to make them legal get into govt and legalised them.

You’re clutcing at straws to blame the government

Yep, Blame Bill

How long have this mob been in power again?

The LNP argued for the pay cut (still are) … the ALP argued against it (still are)

And that’s all anybody needs to know 😉

The LNP argued for the pay cut (still are)

Link?

but you can find it yourself

Why don’t you help me out. You said this

The LNP argued for the pay cut (still are)

Why play games?Just show me the link. I think the Coalition did want something done with penalty rates. I would like to see what they said.

Just a reminder … “evil exists where good folk do nothing” …

Tb- Penalty rates were introduced to stop people working on the weekend. Back in the day when Australians were more religious the idea was that a man should stay at home on the weekend and spend some time with his wife and kids. So penalties were introduced to keep a man at home on the weekends.

Times have changed.

in fact real wages are declining …

Like you give a stuff. All you care about is stuffing your fundamentalists beliefs down everybodies throat.

I know all about you. You locked up 8,469 children from 2007-2013.That is all i need to know what you are.

TB- you specifically said the Libs argued for a pay cut. I can’t see that ducking discussion about the subject represents that.

In the deep north, do you speak the same language as us?

Tell ’em they’re dreamin’

Like the AFP will do anything against their Masters

Centrelink: Labor asks police to investigate release of welfare recipient’s data

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/mar/02/centrelink-labor-asks-police-to-investigate-release-of-welfare-recipients-data

Although tudge should go for this. But, then again, he should go simply for the robodebt fiasco.

“It’s the vibe” isn’t the same as specifically “arguing ”

But I speak English, not Outpost

“It’s the vibe” isn’t the same as specifically “arguing ”

ROFL

Says the guy who crapped on for years about a certain “Carbon Tax” lie that never was \

ROFL

Heads up, I speak Eenglish too, and I know exactly what he (and the rest) are saying. He is saying that he backs Sunday penalty rates reform

It’s pretty black and white.

And, why is malcayman so ready to intervene with the ‘independent authority” on truckies or the cfa yet is silent on this issue

– Kevin Rudd

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-25/rudd-says-labor-got-it-wrong-on-carbon-tax/4910690

for…

…. hand held devices aren’t good for spelling!

Mr Turnbull said that Sunday penalty rates, which can be up to twice the weekday hourly wage and are in excess of the time and a half paid in some sectors on Saturday, was an artifact of history.

“The only reason they’re different, I assume, is history,” Mr Turnbull said Fairfax radio station 3AW, adding that “of course” Australians now lived and worked in a seven day economy.

Again, pretty unambiguous

Except for illiterates

Of course, he uses ‘could’ get higher rates, but that hasn’t been the outcome, has it. When Unions negotiate, it’s a MUST have better rates.

Are you ready yet to aplogise to TB?

What? Being contentious and discussing comments is trolling!

Everyone is a troll here! That’s nice.

One person’s obnoxiousness is simply pointed enquiry to another.

Just another company and NOT a union being corrupt and flouting the law. When is the RC going to commence because companies are now far worse than any union and that includes the CFMEU, ToM.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/world-business/how-uber-used-secret-greyball-tool-to-deceive-authorities-in-australia-20170303-guqm23.html

Read the second last paragraph in this story. Pity the government didn’t acknowledge that with the ABC rather than slash funding and beat the broadcaster into submission.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/fake-news-has-arrived-in-queensland-politics-20170303-guqh97

Except for the facts.

The facts are Rudd/Gillard started a runaway debt truck which the Coalition has not been able to stop. It might have helped if the Senate had passed the spending cuts in the 2014 budget but they were called mean and nasty.

Remember those stupid graphs with the arrow pointing out our low govt debt was back in 2014. Well it is not low any more. The May 2014 budget was the time to cut spending but Australia did not care.

DEbt in2013= minus 3.8% of GDP ie less than zero
Debt in 2013 =12%of GDP and exploding
Debt in 2017 = 19% of GDP and we are in trouble

There was nothing runaway about it. Under Labors Treasury projections, it would have been almost paid off now.

Are you a comedian? Projections like these?

http://budget.gov.au/2012-13/content/speech/html/speech.htm

The four years of surpluses I announce tonight are a powerful endorsement of the strength of our economy, resilience of our people, and success of our policies.

Wayne Swan Budget Speech May 2013

Most of the Treasury officials from 2007-2013 should be in prison because none of their projections were even close to the actual outcome.

Have you seen the Treasury projections in the 2010 PEFO? Swans last budget was supposed to be in surplus.

There was nothing accurate in Treasury projections from 2007-2013. Also as Swan stated to the whole world in his 2012 Budget Speech his next and last budget in May 2013 was supposed to be a surplus.

… because no-one can save the Vatican …

Neither should they, after what the RC uncovered.

I’ve lived in filth I’ve lived in sin
And I still smell cleaner than the shit you’re in

Everyone is already positioning themselves

I guess that includes those with Popcorn?

Says it all. https://t.co/Qgzd3OuG5I—
Bill Shorten (@billshortenmp) March 05, 2017

Yep, ALP legislation, ALP appointments, ALP specifically provided FWC with the power to reduce penalties… but… BLAME THE LIBERALS!!

No TB, I’ve posted about the issue several times. But you’re the one who said the ALP always opposed this.

But the fact is Shorten changed the legislation to allow this.

And the entire process is the one the ALP introduced, that must really annoy you in view of your earlier comments

Yep, ALP legislation, ALP appointments, ALP specifically provided FWC with the power to reduce penalties

Wow just imagine if the Coalition had done something like that under Howard. The violent lefties would have been out in force.

If it helps small business employ more people reducing penalty rates may be a good idea.

…and the ALP has been opposed to this decision for the period they’ve been in opposition, while they were in government-
* they changed legislation to provide this specific power to the FWC
* provided the requirement that FWC conduct this very review
* nominated every member of the full bench that made this decision

Other than all that they are opposed to all this.

Which bit of that did I get wrong TB?

than support the change while giving $50,000,000,000 to those already making record profits while slashing staff and outsourcing jobs overseas.

The initial tax cuts are to small business which employs 4.7M Australians. I do not think many small businesses outsource jobs overseas.

And i am not sure how poor are people who work on the weekend are. I could be wrong but i suspect a lot of them are students living with their parents.

Yeah right TB. There’s nothing political about your commentary on the subject, particularly not this-

The LNP argued for the pay cut (still are) … the ALP argued against it (still are)

He specifically introduced the legislation to provide this very power to FWC.

With the expectation that decisions would be made with compelling evidence, not ‘the vibe’

Yes, they were stupid for thinking the libs would play by the rules. But that doesn’t make Labor or Shorten responsible for what happens under this grubmint.

TB you post stuff that is simply not factual, and get annoyed when this is pointed out.

For example, this is entirely at odds with your previous partisan comment- … I don’t give a shit about the politics …

Clearly you do, and some of your comments are only based on your politics and have nothing to do with facts

(‘Tis still a mystery, then, how certain penalty rates in certain industries seemingly endured entirely unadjusted between then-IR Minister Shorten’s (im)probably (un)prompted and (un)characteristically shortsighted 2012+1 amendment and 2016+1/2017, despite Collier et al’s year-after-year-after-year-after-year broadsheet salivations and broadside salvos, and despite determined declamations by small business representatives and big business unions – in public, incessantly before the bench, in the runs-up to and wash-ups from elections precedent and subsequent, and in the instant case – just to fall over in another scheduled general review; which review specifically (de)compartmentalized certain acclaimed matters; and which side-review the full bench (self-)managed objectively, and delimitedly, but not so delimitedly as to subject itself to any particular, or any, testing other than a (self-)satisfied(ying) (re)interpretation of (re)presented prevailing legislative objects; and, apparently undeterred by prior ratiocination on the subject, proceeded to lop off one of the longer-standing limbs of penalty rates so-called, while fully and (un)reservedly embracing the promoted (in)comprehensive dictates of economic-rationalist (dis)utilitarianism underpinning the presumed real busyness of the modern awards framework’s social bargain; with the ensuing practically-charged and politically-loaded issue(s) of now-(re)become-transitionally/transactionally-necessary (re)balancing(s) minimised and/or maximised for further consideration(s) and determination(s) on (an)other one-of-seven/five-plus-two day(s), and/or apt for (in)direct) legislative oversight (all submissions gratefully received) and/or demotic feedback; or not?)

A Special Report For ToM of Malborn*

I presume TB, that this is you (again) not giving a flying f*** about the politics

There sure are some happy places around.

North Korea has barred Malaysians from leaving the country, prompting Malaysia to take tit-for-tat action, as police in Kuala Lumpur sought to question up to three men hiding in the North Korean embassy over the murder of Kim Jong Nam

http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/north-korea-sends-malaysia-envoy-packing/news-story/439a4c2ab4b6501e1828e028f2cb6b97