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Can Turnbull Survive today’s Horror Poll?

February 27, 2017

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The chaotic rabble over at the Coalition are today waking to another a Newspoll that shows their election losing streak continues unabated with Labor now leading 55% to 45% on a two-party-preferred basis.

This massive 10 point lead would see the Coalition wiped out if an election were held today

The Coalition has also been haemorrhaging voters to Pauline Hanson’s One Nation party, which has doubled its primary vote to 10% since November, now matching the Greens.

Outspoken Nationals member George Christensen would struggle to keep his Queensland seat if an election were held today, with voter support for Pauline Hanson’s One Nation and the Liberal/National party now neck and neck, according to new polling.

One Nation and the LNP now have 30 per cent each of the primary vote, according to polling last week by ReachTEL and commissioned by the Australia Institute.

The doomsday prognosis comes in the wake of Turnbull’s recent rabid dog performance in Parliament, which clearly hasn’t resonated as much with the public as much as it did with his colleagues.

The Coalition’s primary vote has fallen to 34%, a drop of five points since October, but disaffected voters appear to have favoured One Nation and other minor parties, with Labor holding steady on 37% over the same period.

Almost one in three voters said they would choose neither of the two main parties, with One Nation and the Greens both on 10% and a further 9% selecting other minor parties.

These numbers are worse than when Tony Abbott was knocked out of the top job by Malcolm Turnbull in September 2015.

The dramatic poll result is expected to send shockwaves through the Coalition when Parliament resumes in Canberra today.

 

 

 

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  1. Shane in QLD permalink
    February 27, 2017 10:04 am

    Until they realise that people are tired of the benefits at the top and nothing at the bottom. That the average person is disgusted with $50,000,000,000 while attacking the most vulnerable. That the majority of people think negative gearing is a rort. The people see billionaire companies making a fortune here and paying no tax. That the majority of people actually reject privatisation. That the majority of people are sick to death of the feather nesting by both parties of their own pockets and careers. That the majority of people can see the mass casualisation of our workforce is detrimental to society. That the majority of people can see an unfair government a mile off.

    I am more than happy that so many are leaving the two majors. They are both a disgrace at the moment and the voters are letting them know in no uncertain terms. Hopefully many more independents will be elected to force negotiation not ideological omnibus rams through parliament like we are experiencing now. One piece of legislation at a time and not tradeoffs and manipulation like it is in the USA.

  2. February 27, 2017 10:05 am

    As Tom R mentioned on the other thread, remember when the msm lapped up Turnbull’s rabid dog attack on Bill Shorten in parliament calling it a “game changer”..

    🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

  3. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 27, 2017 10:18 am

    Shane all those points are the reasons Trump was elected in the US. It’s very worrying to rational people

  4. February 27, 2017 10:22 am

    I can see George Christensen resigning and going to one nation.

  5. February 27, 2017 10:29 am

    Conservative Liberal MPs have reportedly formed a group called “the deplorables” and discussed a strategy to undermine Malcolm Turnbull on a variety policy issues after the Coalition’s narrow election win last year.

    The group of MPs, led by Tony Abbott and Eric Abetz, began discussing the plan to get the former prime minister back into cabinet by phone last year..

    http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2017/02/27/liberal-mps-the-deplorables/

  6. Tom R permalink
    February 27, 2017 10:30 am

  7. shaneinqld permalink
    February 27, 2017 10:30 am

    ToM

    Yes but you and I can see that he is not their saviour and I think many will see that in 2 years time as well. If it puts a rocket up the major parties then it will have done its job, even if there is fallout on the way.

    I do not think ON is our saviour either, but if it puts a rocket up the duopoly then so be it. I prefer Independents who truly represent their own area. having said that I prefer proportional representation overall as it is true democracy.

  8. February 27, 2017 11:25 am

    Reblogged this on The Grovely Gazette.

  9. Tom R permalink
    February 27, 2017 9:55 pm

    Is this what happens when you criticise government?

    https://bluemilk.wordpress.com/2017/02/26/is-this-what-happens-when-you-criticise-government/

    I guess you could ask

    *Gillian Triggs
    *Ken Henry
    *Nick Ross
    *Justin Gleeson

  10. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 28, 2017 12:12 am

  11. Tom R permalink
    February 28, 2017 9:56 am

  12. Tom R permalink
    February 28, 2017 10:30 am

    Yea, that’s not going to happen, is it.

    Private citizens can have their private details paraded around (inaccurately even), if they dare question the legitimacy of grubmint persecution, but public servants public appointments are protected.

    We’re just not a land down under, we’re inside out as well.

  13. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 28, 2017 12:29 pm

  14. Shane in QLD permalink
    February 28, 2017 12:48 pm

    George Christensen has resigned as Nationals Chief Whip. More to follow

  15. Tom R permalink
    February 28, 2017 3:58 pm

    I see malcaymans played the ‘tewwa’ card to try and flag his fortunes.

    Predictable

  16. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 28, 2017 4:12 pm

    That the average person is disgusted with $50,000,000,000 while attacking the most vulnerable.

    If you are talking about the $50B tax cuts, the first cuts are to small business eg clubs, pubs, restaurants so they can employ some of those hundreds of thousands of people who lost their jobs under Rudd/Gillard

  17. Tom R permalink
    February 28, 2017 4:42 pm

    the first cuts are to small business

    Yea, but the BIG cuts are to BIG business.

    Besides, haven’t clubs, pubs, restaurants just been handed a sugar hit at the expense of hteir employees?

  18. Blow`Smoke`Teabag permalink
    February 28, 2017 7:17 pm

    Yes l enjoyed the christianson news too. (here l come pauline) and yes, l too noticed talkbull is squeezed at the moment and Hey! Presto! we just wounded-up a tewwawist!

    All while lowest paid get wage-cuts and Aust-post ceo wage is being investigated at senate? (didn`t quite catch where it was) #teabags

  19. TB Queensland permalink
    February 28, 2017 8:09 pm

    After resigning in Jan, Mike Baird joins NAB as “chief customer officer”. http://www.skynews.com.au/business/business/company/2017/02/28/former-nsw-premier-mike-baird-joins-nab.html
    Guess Mum, Dad and sister all better now!

    Let’s hope Trumps family get “””””sick””””””

  20. TB Queensland permalink
    February 28, 2017 8:11 pm

    I see malcaymans played the ‘tewwa’ card to try and flag his fortunes.

    But “no danger to Australians” … just “soft” terror … y’know like soft porn …

  21. TB Queensland permalink
    February 28, 2017 8:14 pm

    … so they can employ some of those hundreds of thousands of people who lost their jobs under Rudd/Gillard

    You really are a Fuckwit of the First Order … Jobson Growthe is busily doing “something” … look it up …

    If people have no wages … they don’t spend … Economics 101 …

  22. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 28, 2017 10:14 pm

    If people have no wages … they don’t spend … Economics 101 …

    And if people have no jobs they do not spend. The initial tax cuts are to small business eg clubs, pubs, cleaning companies etc Hopefully they will employ more people if they get a tax cut.

  23. TB Queensland permalink
    February 28, 2017 10:50 pm

    Hopefully

    FFS! Get a real life!

  24. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 1, 2017 12:49 am

    Four changes that would do more for free speech than watering down 18C
    https://redflag.org.au/node/5703

  25. Tom R permalink
    March 1, 2017 6:36 am

    How can any grubmint survive this?

    ‘They called more than 10 times a day’: Sinister tactics of debt collectors paid millions by Centrelink

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/money/costs/they-called-more-than-10-times-a-day-sinister-tactics-of-debt-collectors-paid-millions-by-centrelink/news-story/e66e50ba908075224230c5808a3d426b

  26. Shane in QLD permalink
    March 1, 2017 6:49 am

    Neil

    I have explained before that every business only employs enough people to do a passable job, no more and no less ( well sometimes less ).

    Business has enjoyed a 38% tax cut over the years yet almost none of them have more employees and in fact most have less and most are now part time or casual. Jobs have been removed and contractors brought in to save having to pay and employee benefits.

    Read the stories about the massive loss of full time jobs to casual which keeps the unemployment rate the same yet does nothing to provide full time employment or benefits for employees.

    If you pay less than $450 per month to an employee they do not get super either, this is why so many big businesses have many casuals on the books.

    Yes it is better to have a job, but if that job does not cover the basic cost of living then we have a bigger welfare problem which I have explained to you already.

    The minimum a casual can be called in to work per shift is 3 hours. Casuals do not have to be given any hours at all.

    Which is better for our country

    1,000,000 people employed earning a full time wage, paying tax, getting annual leave to rest and stay healthy, getting super, sick leave, long service leave and not needing any government support at all, while supporting 100,000 (I am using 10% because your broken record harks back to the Keating era every time) unemployed who get Centrelink, Rent Assistance and a Health care card all costing taxpayers money.

    Or 500,000 people working full time, doing what I said above and 600,000 people on casual wages where there is not enough hours paid to those 600,000 so they also receive a Centrelink Payment, Rent Assistance, and a Health Care card and also paying no tax at all due to low hours worked.

    Under the second scenario the only one who benefits are big business, the cost to our society in lost revenue, extra welfare, social ramifications, family trauma and health issues is far more in the second scenario with no taxation revenue from the 600,000 (who are included as being employed for statistical purposes) to cope with the increase demand.

  27. shaneinqld permalink
    March 1, 2017 6:58 am

    If you want an example of how things operate today.

    When I worked for my previous employer and someone sold a house we could have the necessary discharge forms completed the same day.

    Now it takes 15 working days, 3 bloody weeks for the forms to be completed. Yet my previous employer continues to make obscene profits and higher profits every single year. How do you think my clients react when I tell them they have to wait at least 15 working days for a 1 page form to be prepared ?

    Why ? because there are not enough staff and slashing staff while expecting customer to be managed in their expectations is the norm these days. They all do it.

    I submitted an application on Monday for a client only to be advised by the Bank that he chose due to their good rate, that due to having many applications it will be 15 working days before they even look at the application. When I was employed we had 4 hours to make a decision on an electronic application.

    Service standards everywhere have been decimated by less staff and workforce casualization along with centralisation into ivory towers where there is no contact with a customer at all.

    And this is progress and worlds best practice and better service.

    There are hundreds more examples I could provide.

  28. Tom R permalink
    March 1, 2017 9:21 am

    I luv the way the ‘journos’ are always referring to it as a “Carbon PRICE’ now, like the past decade didn’t happen. Pontius pilots typing away and runimating at the mess our cuntry has gotten itself into.

    Heads up ‘journos’, without you lot, it would NEVER have been called a Carbon TAX in the first place. Take some friggin responsibility for where we are at!

    Australia’s greenhouse gas pollution jumped in 2015-16 as coal use continued to rise after the scrapping of the carbon price, making it harder to meet its emissions targets.

    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/disastrous-australias-carbon-emissions-jump-as-coalfired-power-ramps-up-20170228-gunc8f.html

  29. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 1, 2017 9:32 am

    Economics 101 …

    Is that micro economics or macro economics TB?

  30. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 1, 2017 9:34 am

    And with regard to the FWC decision about Sunday penalties – I note that one of the spruikers for the ALP is a guy who works for Coles, under an SDA EBA, he won’t lose a cent.

  31. Tom R permalink
    March 1, 2017 10:40 am

    he won’t lose a cent.

    Until his eba is up for negotiation, at which time …

    It’s hilarious isn’t it. They bang on about Shorten ‘negotiating for worst conditions’, when it was THEIR policy that resulted in the worst conditions. (Shorten actually got htem better conditions than anything the ‘workchoices’ of the time could provide)
    They now use eba’s (which they hate, don’t you yomm) as protecting workers ( albeit temporarily) from their policies that AGAIN make workers conditions worst.

  32. TB Queensland permalink
    March 1, 2017 10:41 am

    I note that one of the spruikers for the ALP is a guy who works for Coles, under an SDA EBA, he won’t lose a cent.

    We all noted that two days ago, ToMMy … do keep up …

    Is that micro economics or macro economics TB?

    Now you’re just showing off … 😉

  33. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 1, 2017 10:58 am

    No, an EBA remains in force following expiry, an application has to be made to FWA to discontinue it, so it isn’t a matter of it just expiring.

    Arguments have to be presented and argued about why it is in the public interest (among other things)

    There are pros and cons in this, you’ll recall that some companies have used their expired EBAs to apply under award conditions, which they have negotiated with a union (like the SDA)
    ————–
    Not at all TB, but there are 2 streams to Economics 101.

    Anyone who has done Economics 101 would know that.

  34. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 1, 2017 11:36 am

    I have explained before that every business only employs enough people to do a passable job, no more and no less ( well sometimes less ).

    Shane that is your opinion. The Coalition believes that tax cuts to small business will help them employ more people or spend money on bigger projects.

  35. TB Queensland permalink
    March 1, 2017 12:08 pm

    No, an EBA remains in force following expiry, an application has to be made to FWA to discontinue it, so it isn’t a matter of it just expiring.

    And I also know why, ToM

    Anyone who has done Economics 101 would know that.

    I have and I do … like I said – now you’re showing off … 🙂

  36. TB Queensland permalink
    March 1, 2017 12:11 pm

    The Coalition believes that tax cuts to small business will help them employ more people or spend money on bigger projects.

    And businesses won’t – particularly small to medium business … and for a very good reason … the Federal government is weak, unpredictable and struggling … and it has stifled the economy …

    Belief isn’t enough …

    That’s why Jobson Growthe is on holidays in the Cayman Islands …

  37. Tom R permalink
    March 1, 2017 1:02 pm

    an application has to be made to FWA to discontinue it,

    You understand that an application has already been made to discontinue the coles eba, don’t you yomm?

    Which means that they will most probably be negotiating another one just after the rates change.

  38. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 1, 2017 1:15 pm

    Applications aren’t simply granted. They’re subject to all those tests that the ALP put in place.

    Just like the ALP appointed the entire Full Bench that made the decision, that resulted from the award review the ALP required under the legislation the ALP put in place

  39. Tom R permalink
    March 1, 2017 1:22 pm

    So, your defence against penalty rates being removed is, people are on ebas (which you love 😉 ) and that the Unions will take care of them 😯

    You know, the people you constantly call ‘thugs’ … are now going to protect workers from …. libs 😆

  40. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 1, 2017 1:26 pm

    No I’m simply making the point that the guy used by the ALP to spruik about this issue is a bulls*** artist.

  41. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 1, 2017 1:33 pm

    …and that every step of the process has been subject to the systems, legislation and appointments of the ALP.

    But guess who is complaining about the decision of the independent umpire??

  42. Tom R permalink
    March 1, 2017 1:35 pm

    No I’m simply making the point that the guy used by the ALP to spruik about this issue is a bulls*** artist.

    Exept that, as soon as his eba is up for renewall (which it will be at some stage, that is irrefutable), he will be bargaining from a weaker position.

    Therefore he is accurate.

  43. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 1, 2017 1:55 pm

    Then you’d have to agree that the ALP did a pretty f***ed job with their process, legislation and appointments

  44. Tom R permalink
    March 1, 2017 2:56 pm

    It is impossible to protect everything from determined corruption.

    I suppose you blame Keating for the mess our current National Electricity Market is in, where they deliberately turn off the power in a state that is pushing renewables, but pull out all stops to protect one that is coal reliant.

    Just ignore that many years between where the libs have pulled, prodded and stacked in order to get their desired outcome, gratuities for their mates.

  45. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 1, 2017 4:15 pm

    So the full bench is “corrupt”?????

  46. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 1, 2017 6:12 pm

    http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/one-nation-voters-as-likely-to-have-deserted-labor-as-the-coalition-20170227-gumkjg.html

    One Nation voters are not who you think they are.
    Working class, worried about job security and living in outer urban or inner regional seats, One Nation voters are as likely to be traditional supporters of Labor, as of the Coalition.

    Heavens!! ALP voters are just as likely to be racist rednecks!

  47. TB Queensland permalink
    March 1, 2017 6:22 pm

    Then you’d have to agree that the ALP did a pretty f***ed job with their process, legislation and appointments

    And you call me partisan?

    The decision is wrong in so many ways I’D sack the fkn Full Bench …

    No-one wins … no-one …

    Heavens!! ALP voters are just as likely to be racist rednecks!

    Let me assess and correct that for you, ToMMy …

    “””Heavens!! Some ALP voters are just as likely to be racist rednecks as Liberal, National, and LNP voters … “””

  48. Tom R permalink
    March 1, 2017 6:46 pm

    So the full bench is “corrupt”?????

    corrupted

  49. TB Queensland permalink
    March 1, 2017 8:29 pm

    LOL! Indeed, TR … $400,000 plus “benefits” is a hard decision to make …

    I remember “struggling” over a consultancy I’d won for $17,000 with a major international company … I’m very proud to say, I knocked it back on principle!

    $400,000 pa+ ?

    … being retired for ten years I can say … screw me? … screw you!

    Would ToMMy? I wonder?

  50. March 7, 2017 4:12 pm

    Today talkbull is in lndo, possibly on his `good-bye` tour. l have also noticed the putton-zombie seems to be being peddled as `prezy-dentual` by the teabags to fake-news. lf that`s the case; they really don`t see 12%-blib as much of a challenge, do they.

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