Drug Accused: “I thought it was banana bread”

She may possibly be a drug mule Shane, but there’s no reason to slander her like that.

A YOUNG PERSONS LOT
…Brilliant & True

I AGREE!

The laws have been changed so much to favour the theft of employees time that it astounds me.

I find it hard to feel sorry for the journos, considering the war they (farfacts) have waged against the Union movement over the years.

And looks like Kudelka predicted it correctly (although, it was pretty obvious)

like most “workers” they are expected to “toe – the – line”

If they can live with themselves.

I haven’t been forced into that position luckily, although, I have refused some tasks because I quite bluntly pointed out … er, that’s just wrong.

But not to the point my livelihood was affected.

“You wankers”

well said that man!

Why I don’t read Murdoch publications.

Really just one to add to the list isn’t it Shane?

Trump is just an uneducated, ignorant, insensitive prick!

I would have thought he and malware would have plenty to talk about then. welfare bashing, health destruction, coal envy ………

Australia’s laws on plain packaging of cigarettes and other tobacco products have been upheld at the World Trade Organisation after a five-year legal battle, Bloomberg news reported on Thursday.

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/may/05/australias-defeats-wto-challenge-to-plain-packaging-of-tobacco

well done nanny. Saving lives. It’s really all that matters.

Internet Speed: 36Mbps ..

If you want higher pay for it yourself. The poor in Australia cannot afford Labors FTTP

The poor in Australia cannot afford Labors FTTP

You mean the ones who are going to be paying for the libs $50BILLION tax bonanza for big business

THOSE poor?

the missionaries did a very effective job there

My friend grew up there. His mother was not impressed with what the missionaries had done there at all. In her opinion, they are as much responsible for the state of the country as anyone is

You know nuthin’, neel of sydl*ey …

Nobody knows how much Labors FTTP would cost. If you remember it was first thought up on the back of a drinks coaster on a plane flight in 2009. There were no costings until years latter. It most probably would never be finished and bankrupt the country. There were only 100,000 connections in 2013 with 12 million to go.

I got NBN and had to pay only $10/month extra but i do not believe they are charging enough to cover costs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Broadband_Network#Half-yearly_data_of_customer_uptake

There were 70,000 connection in June 2013, 100,000 when Labor lost govt and 130,000 connected by the end of 2013. And there are 12 million connections to be done for the NBN

This link is interesting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Broadband_Network#Half-yearly_data_of_customer_uptake

Only 80,000 premises were connected to FTTP by Dec 2013 and that is now up to almost 1 million. But i thought FTTP had been abandoned and the network was going to be FTTN? I got FTTP when the NBN was installed at my place. And 449,000 are connected via FTTN. So most people have a FTTP connection

How do you do a speed test?

but i thought they stopped doing FTTP because it was too expensive.

Every time I read a post from NILIAR, I feel the urge to conduct my own (reb inspired) speed test.

Great, time for another Speed test 🙂

But you’ve just proven that the Liberal Government’s Hybrid NBN is a waste of anyone’s money

But i gave FTTP. Actually for my use i cannot tell the difference between ADSL and FTTP. And for the one millionth time nobody knows how much Labors NBN would cost. It was thought up on the back of a drinks coaster with so-called costings coming years latter.

And for the one millionth time nobody knows how much Labors NBN would cost.

And for the one millionth and one time

https://www.itnews.com.au/news/nbn-cos-second-corporate-plan-in-numbers-311348

NILIAR!

FTTP would have been superfast

Perhaps but super expensive. Nobody knows how much FTTP would cost or even the benefits. Labor said in 2010 there would be 1.3 million homes having access to FTTP by 2013. Absolute rubbish so why should i trust their costings? No Australian would pay $300/month for FTTP.

NILIAR is still rambling with lies backed up by ignorance I see. Irrelevant little worm.

Bigger things are afoot, like Labor chasing hanson down the xenophonic rabbit hole.

They better rectify this, else they’ll lose more votes than they’d garner from a crowd I wouldn’t want the vote of in the first place.

xenophobic

Duh!

My wife got a letter a day before Easter, which, by the time she got it (it was prepared 9 days earlier) told her she needed Dr’s evidence for her bad back. Which gave her 4 days after Easter to organise a Dr appointment (it MUST be with the Dr who has overseen her for the past seven years)

She got to see him, only to be told, he was going on holidays and couldn’t do it until he gets back in a month.

She finally got through to centerlink, with about 3 hrs to spare, and has got an extension .. for three weeks.

Pretty sure she will be kicked off, purely through the rigidity (okay, I’ll call it as I see it, duplicity) of the system. Probably be better off if I quit work should that happen, which I really don’t want to do, as I finally found a satisfying job that suits me perfectly.

I’m sure one of the levels of hell is reserved for whoever devised this system.

HOLY
…
SHIT

And he should know, he’s followed a few [facepalm]

Irrelevant little worm.

Labors second NBN was thought up on the back of a drinks coaster on a plane flight costing who knows what finished who knows when. Costings did not happen until years after the NBN was started. Australians want affordable broadband not Rolls Royce broadband.

The worst thing about the current NBN is that the govt is building it. This means it will take much longer and be more expensive than necessary. They had to come out to my place three times before they could get the NBN working. And to my surprise i got FTTP and cannot tell any difference between ADSL and FTTP for my purposes.

I was referring to government revenue

I know, I was just pointing out where government revenue our taxes were actually going.

Now you SEE why you are an Irrelevant little worm NILIAR

Strange comment from someone who said Joe Hockey scared off the car industry by saying BOO.

But it looks like there is truth in that allegation that the current NBN was thought up on a plane flight. I thought it was madness when i first heard the allegation but it looks like the plane flight happened and there is no doubt stuff was jotted down most probably on that drinks coaster

But we need spending cuts in tomorrows budget but it ain’t gunna happen. The budget will be in deficit for years. So goodbye AAA credit rating. Looks like running surplus budgets is not as easy as Costello made it look.

Your `denial`

Is this where I point to the polls?

I don’t feel confident that bill shorten will lead the class war

He already is, and has been for years.

The unhinging from the media prove it.

Of course, getting lined up in with hunt commission isn’t ‘class war’, is it 😉

where the fuck do public schools fit in his plans, if at all?

With the original Gonski. You understand that, under the libs plan, the public system will be no better off also?

But, I agree just looks like petty politics, and Labor should have done what Gonski originally proposed and cut the private schools, but, well, malware will find out now why Labor didn’t.

I can understand why they want to hang him out to dry, and, their message is wider than just the private schools, but, that is what will be focussed on. It would be better if they just let that through, but, they are attacking the package as a whole.

Shorten has said he agrees with the cutting of the private schools. He should follow that through.

I haven’t watched the 4corners show yet, but, sounds like the abc doing a fair bit of selective reporting

but Labor has been a willing partner in the zeal for neoliberal australia.

Except of course for

NBN
Gonski
NDIS
and their defense of

Medicare
TAFE
Universities
…
you know, those sort of things 😉

set-up the east-coast `gas-drought` we now have.

Can you recall a little thing called a ‘Carbon Price’ team dribbler?

Context, get some! And then turn your attention to the real wrecker, instead of thrashing about brainlessly and following the abc’s dog whistle away from the real culprit

http://www.smh.com.au/business/tax-could-end-lng-advantage-20110712-1hc6t.html

How can you be so stupid and still manage to breath successfully?

Surely you do not trust anything Banks or Swans says? But i guess you do since you are on the same team. One day the NBN will have to be added to the budget and that will blow the deficit.

The perfect budget night game

Nobody here gives a flying fcuk about `exports` you team-cheering peanut. lt is ALL about LOCAL costs going thru the roof DUE to NO local suppy available.

You can never have too many unclassified hallucinogens.

ROFL

its abdicating of governing to market gouging

Only if you ignore reality, nil(?)

A leaked draft copy of NBN Co’s latest corporate plan has provided further confirmation debunking the Coalition’s claim that Labor’s all-fibre version of the NBN could cost as much as $94 billion, as evidence continues to stack up that deploying fibre to the premises is not as expensive in Australia as previously thought.

https://delimiter.com.au/2013/09/27/leak-shows-coalitions-nbn-costings-wrong/

Will we see the words ‘backflip’?

After nearly a decade of saying the problem was all on the spending side, the Liberal party has finally admitted that there is a revenue problem

https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2017/may/09/australia-federal-budget-2017-10-graphs-you-need-to-see-greg-jericho?CMP=share_btn_tw

And the media lets them get away with it,

Exactly. Most of what I have seen is .. Labor is toast because … the libs stole your idea.

Will one stand up and say “Labor was right all along, we (all) were wrong”?

Having said that, it doesn’t sound too bad

Devil in the detail

Looks like we will be in budget deficit for years owing more and more to foreigners.

Howard/Costello turned a large budget deficit into a surplus within 12 months

Not a bad budget really.

Is it? Pull on this thread; and watch generously-staged Federal-State public-asset churns wind through under-developed back-corridors of (im)media(ted) amnesia. P’raps.)

And repaired the budget they fkd up buying big boys toys for the military!

Swan turned a $20B surplus into a $27B deficit within 12 months.

I see TB is telling lies again.The big boys toys for the military have not even arrived therefore have no effect on the budget at the moment

(….under guise of `participation` work readiness.

Pfft. Naturally, getting the kiddies and the oldies acculturated to the perfectly reasonable idea that (compulsory) ‘income (mis)management’ attaches to the (stigmatised) person(s), not (just) the(ir) ‘(trial) location(s)’, is all part of the super-intended extended community service; as are incremental upward adjustment(s) to (fortnightly) exposures to opportunities for enhanced (mis)application(s) of (withdrawal(s) (of) penalties; because it’s not as if like-minded regimens around the world aren’t in(to) the altruistic business of measurably reducing (otherwise-eligible) uptakes of (universal (basic welfare) payment(s) (safety nets), by as much as 30% and more in some comparably-advanced economies and for relevant (sub-)populations, and, thereby, of automatic stabilisers; with all the micro and macro benefits, and none of the (anti)social destructivities, one might almost expect of (mis)appropriat(iv)e piss-taking(s) on behalf of (a) broader, broadly grateful, broadly income(/outcome)-(in)secure (workaday) community(ies).)

Here we go again … its a BUDGET, kneel … it includes forecasts for spending (usually wrong) …

But the budget was already stuffed. It has been stuffed since 2008 when Swan produced a $27B deficit

Chris Bowen? Wasn’t he the guy who locked up 50,000 boat people?

ls anybody really fooled by the zombies `pink-washed`, pretending to be people friendly budget?

I suspect a lot of them have given up on budget repair and have prepared a budget the Senate will pass.

Fact is we are in trouble. May 2014 was the time to cut but Australia and the Senate did not want this. So more foreign debt here we come.

Anna Bligh parroting that the banks cannot afford the new tax of $1,000,000,000 per year when they make $30,000,000,000 per year astounds me. She has totally forgotten her roots and how the average person lives.

I cheer the Government for introducing this tax and they should also make it law that it not be passed on to customers via new fees or charges.

What I find hypocritical about this government once again is the way they hounded Wayne Swan when the banks increased rates out of the RBA cycle, when he suggest people change banks and when he said the banks need to be more competitive.

Now we have the hypocrite Scott Morrison saying and doing exactly what this mob criticised Wayne Swan for. Are these mob totally blind to the way they criticise the other side and then implement so much of their policies or say exactly the same thing.

Average swinging voter has seen the crap and smoke and mirrors now for 4 years

I also note that, in America, it seems people are currently looking back on Watergate as a minor break in comparison to trumps current escapades

me of 18-c-d mangling too

You’ll have to be (a lot) clearer. Yor ramblings are usually too indecipherable to even bother with. Learn English, or I’ll just assume this is more coloured carton counting on yor behalf.

Yep, not even Labor Lite

Thousands of low-paid Australians face an increase in their tax bill as the Federal Government’s changes to university fees and the Medicare levy combine to eat into their disposable income.

https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/low-paid-graduates-face-higher-tax-ng-b88471284z

Anna bLIE … classic case of spots and leopards!

Yep, no political party is free of them, but, more and more seem to be cropping out of my ‘team’ 😦

Look carefully for drink coasters

😆

(“The president cannot fire the FBI director while he’s being investigated by the FBI director”

Meh. Dutton’s indubitably still ‘a bit’ correct: being shot at by drunk navymen, while bunking down for years at an illegal offshore detention centre, now redesignated an airforce base, which is and isn’t run from/by Canberra, possibly is mood-altering; but probably not quite so much as actually being shot for student-protesting the O’Neill Government’s eliminations of a dedicated taskforce and a police chief charged with investigating high-level political corruptions and issuing evidence-based, bench-backed warrants; a situation, thankfully, now resolved, with or without the in-country assistances of triple-digit numbers of AFP officers and other, slightly-more-secretive Australian personnel of a view to helping uphold and maintain lawn order across the Asia-Pacific region and/or prepare for upcoming APEC-contra-China festivities; in addition to very generous foreign aids granted, in timely fashions, by the Commonwealth, to same or similar effective ends; glossing over, of course, the juridically-well-regarded activities of any ad hoc interim tribunals rededicated to rooting out any real corruptions, no matter how minor or how real, in advance of upcoming elections, other than any utterly inconsequential matters sequestered for the duration in already-(un)reviewed and de facto-dismissed files; much as Nauru’s executive, administrative, and judicial apparati evidently have benefited from Australian Government (un)involvements; and Timor-Leste’s fortunes, too.)

l just thought joyce might feel `offended` and ? and ? and `insulted` by both the pie-action; `and` the `phobic` explaination tony-pie gave for doing it. Clear?

He has every right to. So … wtf is yor issue?

Apart form the fact that … 15% hasn’t had ANY affect on the price of gas in WA

They pay the same as all

And it is all tied in with the Carbon Price (and its removal)

Unless of course, you have ‘alternate facts’?

Except of course for the awkward piece of evidence called ‘recent history’, which shows yor garbled message to be … garbled.

The Carbon Price DID keep a lid on the abuse of the ‘market’.

Removing it allowed them to reap the benefits, and WA’s vaunted 15% hasn’t affected prices AT ALL.

But you just keep blaming Gillard, like you did Roxon, for simply doing what is best at the time, even for idiots too blind to see.

had ya`bothered to scroll-up ya`might realize we-agree dummy

If you wrote some kind of legible Eenglish, I might have some clue. As it stands, I’m still oblivious, hence “WTF” still stands

WTF were you even trying to imply/say/dribble?

Tories are only a goosestep away from Fascists … Dutton and Tudge would have blended into the Third Reich so easily …

Says the man who locked up 50,000 boat people and enjoyed doing it.

ou keep on saying that, neel … but I’ve never supported offshore processing …

News to me that we locked up 50,000 people offshore. Is that Possible?

We did lock up 50,000 people from 2008-2013. Where were they locked up? Perhaps here

Wickham Point (established in Darwin in 2011)
Curtin (near Derby, WA, reopened in 2010)
Scherger (near Weipa, Queensland, established in 2010)
Yongah Hill (near Northam, WA, established in 2012)
There was also
Inverbrackie Alternative Places of Detention opened 2010
Leonora Alternative Place of Detention opened 2010
Port Augusta Immigration Residential Housing reopened 2010″

You obviously agreed to this because you voted for this

both quotes in bold above

refer to conditions that have been exposed AFTER the Carbon Price was removed

dopey.

what’s the prize?

He can spam you with stoopid for a while? 😉

Tom R
“Yet they are happy to build a ‘train to nowhere’, to keep their nat mates on side.
Again, not a bad idea in itself, but, since there is no modelling ANYWHERE that shows it is affordable or even needed, why?”

The LNP state governments trashed the rail systems because of their ideological hatred of unions. There was this hysteria that the unions controlled the railways and as such the determination to starve the railways of support and let the lines and infrastructure disintegrate to a level where the services could no longer be provided. As a result we now have hundreds of thousands of extremely long trucks travelling on our one lane, so called highways, tearing up the roads in an horrific manner and forcing car drivers to take risks to overtake these massively long vehicles for which our roads are NOT designed.

Metal on metal is the most efficient form of movement, no matter what the modelling says, if you have a more efficient form of transport, which will also stop the destruction of our roads and the thousands of accidents and losses of life, then it is a no brainer.

When you have travelled country highways as much as I have over the last 40 years you witness and are personally affected by the devastating effect that the introduction of road trains and massively heavy vehicles has had to our roads. A repaired portion of a road in the country is lucky to remain repaired without any damage for 3 months, sometimes the destruction form these heavy and long trucks begins as soon as the repairs are complete, and of course the road repairs are done by private companies who do the work as cheaply as possible. Travel the Newell or the New England for 12 months and you might appreciate what keeping rail could have done for our transport.

Problem is that the LNP do not want the government to own anything at all on behalf of its citizens. It wants private companies to own and run everything no matter how important it is for our future or the welfare or benefit of all the citizens. Shareholders come first to the LNP anyone else is simply a by product of profit and greed.

Is someone able to advise me. Is a private contractor who builds a road required to provide a warranty of some sort for a period of time. For example if I was seeking quote for a road to be repaired I would demand that the contractor provide a guarantee of workmanship for a period no less than 5 years.

Problem is trucks kill.

And malware actively encouraged that, just so owners can gouge drivers more

https://independentaustralia.net/business/business-display/get-trucked-scrapping-road-safety-remuneration-tribunal-endangers-all-our-lives,8875

Is a private contractor who builds a road required to provide a warranty of some sort for a period of time.

I don’t know the answer to that, but, considering this story, my guess would be ‘no’

“We have a situation in Australia where a Chinese company engaged to build state Government infrastructure can import asbestos laden building products and threaten to sack workers who want to leave when the alarm is raised.”

https://cg.cfmeu.org.au/news/cfmeu-officials-fined-under-“unjust-industrial-laws”

And the CFMEU (and the workers) get fined! WTF?

(Whereas, I might, perhaps, think it’s nice that our East Asian friends and/or our/their busyness consortia have effectively forward-contracted to game the Australian gas (re)export/(re)import) market(s); even as they’re/we’re attempting to very generously clean-coal-technology-transfer the kind of supercritical, HELE-tech set-ups that Trumble’s mob were going on and on and on about wanting-but-not-demonstrably-having to seal-the-deal(s) mere months ago, when waving around a lump of premium product, predestined for (Austral-)Asian markets, at anyone feeling particularly courageous at 410PPM; if not Adani’s low(er)-grade, secondary product destined for India or wherever, once Whyalla is saved from the brink by a denominational MOU being floated by the Evironment Minister, and railroading concessional loans extended, to make the most of the hydrocarbons cashcow(s)*.

* Not including, of course, the kinds of concessions one might almost have elected to derive under TPP and/or FTA ISDS provisions, if any, and otherwise available to be tried-on domestically, notionally as fair recompense for crown(s)-binding(s)s, for claims for (implied) losses/(frustration of) expectation(s) of profits, with any (im)material change of (exploitable) circumstance in the governance market(s)place(s).)

l`m not `anti` l`m just skeptical

You spelt ‘irrational’ wrong

Wayne Swan: ‘We simply have to get rid of neoliberal economics’

That is code for saying we need more govt spending more govt debt and more deficit budgets. Yes let us spend spend spend with no responsibility.

Q1,,,Australia was the first country where a totally national plan to cover every house or business was considered,,, said Rod Tucker,

After Rudd and the ALP lied to us multiple times during the 2007 election saying they would give us FTTN costing $4.7B and finished by 2013.

By the way i got FTTP. It took several months to be installed because they had to come out three times then it stopped working after 4 months so they had to come out again and i have to pay more for it compared to ADSL. They are still running out FTTP.

This socialist disaster was thought up on a plane flight on a drinks coaster, costing us who knows what finished who knows when

I doubt many experts would say that the govt should build the NBN

TomR

Is there anywhere in the world where the govt is building broadband network? It sounds and feels like some socialist monstrosity.

I heard a case at a unit complex were plumbers in No 7 cut through the NBN cables to 7, 8, 9 & 10. Turns out everybody had to ring up their service providers and NBN had to come out multiple times to fix the cut cables. A private company would have done all 4 at once. Worse was that one of the units did not use the NBN so that cable could not be repaired because that person did not have a provider

you`re a mindless chanting dumbfcuk that knows nothing!

Wrong. I told the truth. The plumbers fixing some sewage pipe in No 7 cut through the NBN cables going to 7,8,9 & 10. Each unit had to ring up their providers to get the cut cable fixed. And only then could NBNCo come out. They actually came out 3 times. And number 9 cannot be repaired because number 9 does not use the internet and therefore does not have a provider

That is socialism at work. If NBNCo was a private company they would have fixed all 4 cables at the same time

“And number 9 cannot be repaired”= provider `refuses to repair until provider can gouge

+++

dumbfcuk didn`t realize he could hire his own cable-guy to fix the lot in one hit (like plumber, electrician, gardener) so he got punked by the provider sales team

+

7(dumbfcuk) is still liable for `all` damage

dumbfcuk can`t possibly know if dig-dial has been updated by the fiber crew

+

dumbfcuk can`t know if da-plumber/s called dig-dial either

A private company would fix all 4 cut cables at the same time. #correct, but dumbfcuk called his `provider` to do it

+

cables should have been installed deeper than they were #correct, `original` fiber crew at fault

+

dumbfcuk can`t possibly know if dig-dial has been updated by the ORIGINAL fiber crew

that dumbfcuk has been well and truly arsefcuked by his dodgy teabag-fiber network installation

It is Labors FTTP. But i was talking about the mechanics of getting something fixed. Just for example if a unit complex has 10 units with FTTP and a plumber cuts all 10 cables each unit has to ring up their provider (eg Telstra, Optus, TPG) and NBNCo may have to come out 10 times to fix the 10 cut cables.

That is socialism in action.

Speed: 36 … getting closer!

And if you got double that speed would it make any difference. And if you had to pay twice as much as you are paying now to get double your current speed would you do it?

YomR

You cannot stop telling lies can you. Why would the NBN under the Coalition cost more? It is still NBNCo building the thing.

You just tell lies for political purposes.

Because the system resources were changed to HYBRID grid of fibre, copper, cable … a mix of — FFS!

Yes but why would that cost more. Turnbull changed it to FTTN so it would cost less and be finished sooner. I know what you told me. Nobody knows how much FTTP to 90% of houses would cost,

That’s LIES … you provide no evidence, no links just anecdotal beliefs and LNP propaganda …

It is based on continual ALP lies who i would never trust and govts building things before. They are always more expensive.

And i do not believe the providers are charging the true cost. One day the NBN cost will have to be included in the budget and only then will we see the cost.

I might answer the question if you ask politely otherwise no i will not answer.

The ALP almost never,,,,,, requires dumbfcuks to have a swollen rectum just to use fiber. That choice was an `optional` extra added later under teabag-fiber.

Yes but why would that cost more.

There are quite few reasons.

The main one is, there is now a range of technologies, which means, every roll out is different, and every area presents it’s own problems depending on which technology is connecting to which other technology, whereas, before, it was the same everywhere, you get it right once, you get it right everywhere. It also means technicians need much more experience and knowledge whereas previously, one technology was all that was required.

The other main one was, they are now using obsolete technologies. Copper wiring for data transfer is an anachronism. Sure, it cost a lot in the early days for the Fiber, but, once that starts rolling out, the cost comes down as the quantity increases. Now, production firms have to re-tool to create what had been assumed was obsolete, while the firms tooled up for massive fiber output are now left hanging.

And, of course, they had to renegotiate with Telstra, which then left NBN with fixing the issues in the pits, something NBNCo had previously bypassed.

All in all, malware has saddled Australia with a giant copper noose around its future, when we were well on the way to having something that would keep us competitive

What happened to all the Pell supporters who commented here?

witness protection?

That is the reason Turnbull changed the NBN to FTTN.

What, so we experience the expensive end of a fiber rollout, and then,he makes an ‘innovative’ switch to an obsolete technology, which turns out to be as expensive as fiber, as no one makes it anymore.

Fiber is infrastructure, which, isn’t about what people want NOW, it’s what we will need in the (not too distant) future

my first PC cost me $10,000 specially built for my new business

And that explains why the Coalition does not want to do FTTP to 90% of homes.

But there are 12 million connections to do. There will be millions left if the ALP wins the next election.They could do whats left FTTP