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It’s War! Abbott tells Turnbull “I’m not going anywhere!”

June 29, 2017

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He’s never really disappeared off the scene but Tony Abbott’s rabid display of treachery and butt-thuggery in the form of his so-called “manifesto” a 10-point plan that Tony is convinced is precisely what the Liberal Party needs right now in order to win the next election convincingly and in such a way that recreates a vision of a white washed Australia from the 1950’s complete with hills hoist in the yard and a bucket of nappies in the laundry.

It takes a certain level of self-delusion to be so utterly convinced that an individual who was heading for electoral annihilation only a few short years ago, should suddenly think that doubling down on the policies that made him so completely unelectable then, should now offer the hope of salvation, and apparently just what the doctor ordered to rescue Australia from the growing left wing threat.

But then Abbott’s is a most unique mind.

With a cavalcade of successive polls suggesting that the Coalition is heading for certain defeat at the next election it’s no wonder tensions are reaching boiling point within the ranks of the Liberal party, with the pent up hatred they usually reserve for the electorate and Labor now being visibly directed towards each other.

It’s delicious to witness. What with the crusty old conservative religious freaks of Abetz, Andrews and Abbott carrying on as though they represent the undying dignity of traditional Liberal values (whatever they are) launching an all-out assault on the flamboyant and comparatively progressive Christopher Pyne over his remarks that gay marriage will become a reality sooner rather than later.

Who hasn’t grabbed a microphone at some royal old piss up in a public venue after a few sherbets only to utter a few words one may live to regret, but for Chrissy to claim that it was a private conversation that was leaked is simply laughable. It was broadcast over the venue’s PA system FFS.

At any rate, it all makes for remarkable entertainment, but it certainly makes one wonder “how long can this sorry charade go on?”

 

 

 

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149 Comments leave one →
  1. shaneinqld permalink
    June 29, 2017 10:58 am

    I would have had far more respect for Christopher Pyne if he simply stuck to his guns and remained quiet. Now that he has apologised it emboldens the gang of 4 ultra conservatives even more to try to undermine any progression for our country.

    If Tony thinks he can win the next election as PM he has become the most deluded person in the country. If you choose him as leader again LNP prepare for a wipeout of even larger proportions than what the polls currently predict.

    Still there is a long time to the next election and anything can happen.

  2. TB Queensland permalink
    June 29, 2017 11:10 am

    … complete with hills hoist in the yard and a bucket of nappies in the laundry.

    You make that sound like a bad thing?

    I do hope The Mad Abbott supplants TurnAbbott soon … another three polls to go, I think, would make it 16?

    And of course as the census showed the Catholics are losing their grip … hypocritically/ironically most of the kids at the local Catholic primary school are anything but Caucasian … LOL!

    No wonder Shorten is quiet – let the Tories rip ’emselves apart!

  3. TB Queensland permalink
    June 29, 2017 11:12 am

    And of course as a Catholic … The Mad Monk proves the point re: deceit, lies, cheating … wonder if they have listening devices in all the confessionals … what a protection racket they could run!

  4. Tom R permalink
    June 29, 2017 2:40 pm

  5. shaneinqld permalink
    June 29, 2017 2:45 pm

    Tom R

    Exactly Tony Abbott is only supported by those who are either so right they will fall over if not weighted down and those who do not have quality education.

    The ALP only have to replay his 2013 election promises and then replay every backflip and his goose is cooked well and truly.

  6. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 29, 2017 2:53 pm

    I could argue about that list but this lie cannot be argued about

    http://www.budget.gov.au/2012-13/content/speech/html/speech.htm

    The four years of surpluses I announce tonight are a powerful endorsement of the strength of our economy, resilience of our people, and success of our policies.

    In an uncertain and fast‑changing world, we walk tall — as a nation confidently living within its means.

    This Budget delivers a surplus this coming year, on time, as promised, and surpluses each year after that, strengthening over time.

    This was a promise made to the Australian people with the full backing of Treasury.

    The ALP also promised in 2007 a NBN costing $4.7B and finished by 2013

  7. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 29, 2017 2:54 pm

    By the way that promise was made by Wayne SWan in May 2012. It turned out to be one of the biggest lies in Australian history

  8. Tom R permalink
    June 29, 2017 3:38 pm

    It turned out to be one of the biggest lies in Australian history

    It turned out to be repeated by every treasurer since 😉

  9. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 29, 2017 3:52 pm

    It turned out to be repeated by every treasurer since

    Really?

    Did Hockey in May 2014 say the next budget would be in surplus? News to me.

  10. Tom R permalink
    June 29, 2017 4:10 pm

    lolz nil

    yea, it may not have been in May 😉

  11. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 29, 2017 4:24 pm

    Hockey made his surplus promise when in Opposition based on the lies in Swans budgets. Swans budgets promised surplus budgets and Hockey made his statements based on those lies

  12. Tom R permalink
    June 29, 2017 4:44 pm

    based on the lies in Swans budgets. same information Swan had, treasury.

    And ever since, the same projections are coming out

  13. TB Queensland permalink
    June 29, 2017 7:13 pm

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz … @ guess who?

  14. June 29, 2017 8:18 pm

    Abbott was last seen running through an empty Parliament house in his budgie smugglers screaming obsceneties and placing plans of nuclear submarines under Turnbulls chair.

  15. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 29, 2017 8:46 pm

    based on the lies in Swans budgets. same information Swan had, treasury.

    Not really. Swan ordered Treasury to push spending decisions around to get his promised surplus.

  16. June 29, 2017 9:08 pm

    Talkbull is rabbits puppet anyway. Nobody cares how hard or how often rabbit arse-fcuks his puppet adf-style; while claiming everybody is `straight`. The poodle is not fooling anybody.

  17. Tom R permalink
    June 30, 2017 8:49 am

  18. Tom R permalink
    June 30, 2017 9:51 am

    This is quite an evisceration of yabots time as pm. Finally

    This man of few regrets – who gave a knighthood to Prince Philip; did more than anyone else in this country to create uncertainty around energy investment;

    Read more: http://www.afr.com/opinion/columnists/abbotts-undermining-like-rudd-before-him-is-making-the-coalition-unelectable-20170629-gx18cs#ixzz4lRF38zNQ
    Follow us: @FinancialReview on Twitter | financialreview on Facebook

    Yet most STILL blame renewables.

    And, the msm has been at pains to tell us that Labor never paid for Gonski. Yet

    Abbott is angry, apparently, that the Gonski 2.0 deal short changes Catholic schools, apparently forgetting that his own 2014 budget included $36 billion in cuts to schools,

    I’m sure most of the msm will ignore this minor detail

  19. Tom R permalink
    June 30, 2017 9:54 am

    And, speaking of Gonski (the real one, not the lib destroyed one)

  20. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 30, 2017 10:32 am

    Renewables are the main cause of electricity price rises

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/households-will-pay-up-to-400-more-for-power-because-of-the-rising-cost-of-wholesale-electricty/news-story/e48382071b273f212ab1b3584262517c

    The rising wholesale electricity price, which makes up 45 per cent of a household’s bill, has also increased ­because of soaring investment in renewable energy ­instead of coal….Energy Minister Don Harwin yesterday confirmed to The Daily Telegraph that ­increases were on the way after a period of stability for several years. After disastrous Labor policies on gold plating and the botched solar bonus scheme, NSW electricity prices rose more than 100 per cent over seven years from 2007…………….Wind and solar power are sold more cheaply to the national electricity market than coal and gas due to federal subsidies. But renewables provide intermittent supply and when the wind stops or sun doesn’t shine, coal and gas power stations have to ramp up supply, driving up the spot price. “NSW is headed down the same path as South Australia,” the Australian Power Project’s Nathan Vass said.

  21. Tom R permalink
    June 30, 2017 1:13 pm

    Luckily, I can’t access the article. WHo’d have thought, a lib blaming Labor. Here’s some reality

    “We are deeply disturbed by the greed of a few fossil fuel generators,” he said in a letter to customers this week. “This, together with a lack of government policy around future renewable energy targets has resulted in a major market failure for which electricity consumers are having to pay a heavy price.”

    http://reneweconomy.com.au/enova-hits-out-at-greed-of-fossil-fuel-generators-as-prices-jump-79976/

  22. Tom R permalink
    June 30, 2017 1:40 pm

    lol, the same guy in nils link

  23. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 30, 2017 8:44 pm

    So there is a leftist in the NSW govt?

    Fact is coal is the cheapest generator of electricity. Labor in Victoria put royalties on brown coal to make coal generated electricity more expensive. And State govts around Australia gave solar generated power rebates to make it more competitive.

    Just come out and say it. CO2 is destroying the planet so we will have to pay more for electricity by using renewables. But do not say renewables are cheaper than coal. They are not and never will be

  24. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 1, 2017 11:50 am

    Solar energy is now cheaper in Australia than retail power prices in most capital cities after dropping 58 per cent in the past five years, the Climate Council says in a new report.

    I do not believe it.

  25. Shane in QLD permalink
    July 2, 2017 4:34 am

    FSANZ. Just another Government Department corrupted by Private and Political Influence. To remove a website shows just how degraded our departments have become at the influence of Lobbyists and Private Greed Interests. NO longer the good of the people but rather the profit of the company must come first.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/study-finds-potentially-toxic-nanoparticles-in-australian-baby-formula-20170622-gwwb2j.html

  26. Neil of sydney permalink
    July 2, 2017 1:48 pm

    Solar energy has its problems

    http://www.environmentalprogress.org/big-news/2017/6/21/are-we-headed-for-a-solar-waste-crisis

    Last November, Japan’s Environment Ministry issued a stark warning: the amount of solar panel waste Japan produces every year will rise from 10,000 to 800,000 tons by 2040, and the nation has no plan for safely disposing of it.

    Neither does California, a world leader in deploying solar panels. Only Europe requires solar panel makers to collect and dispose of solar waste at the end of their lives……..Solar panels contain toxic metals like lead, which can damage the nervous system, as well as chromium and cadmium, known carcinogens. All three are known to leach out of existing e-waste dumps into drinking water supplies.

  27. shaneinqld permalink
    July 2, 2017 3:41 pm

    Once again profits before lives and self regulation rather than government inspection. I wonder when all this will end. Hopefully one day people will see through all of this extreme privatisation, self regulation and greed and understand that we actually do need government and public servants to protect our lives from the greed of extremists through regulation and inspection by public servants and not outsourced to the lowest cost provider who can then be manipulated and bribed.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/victoria/exploding-glass-balconies-in-melbourne-apartments-expose-faulty-building-products-20170628-gx0lwf.html

  28. TB Queensland permalink
    July 2, 2017 5:25 pm

    Shane, this has been going on for a long time … I remember a number of cases in Brisbane …

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/glass-plummets-from-cbd-highrise-20090826-f00l.html

  29. TB Queensland permalink
    July 2, 2017 5:30 pm

    Fact is coal is the cheapest generator of electricity.

    Actually its the Sun … 😎

  30. July 2, 2017 6:50 pm

    exploding glass,,,, also happening with glass shower screens`n doors from china #yaaay.outsaucing #yaaay.offshoring

    as l`ve said many times before, all these teabag-failures are `rapidly-converging`

  31. Tom R permalink
    July 3, 2017 9:33 am

  32. TB Queensland permalink
    July 3, 2017 11:06 am

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/03/malcolm-turnbull-commits-to-run-and-win-as-prime-minister-in-2019-election

    This bloke back-flips on anything and everything including himself!

    Malfunction Tremble …

    People aren’t reaching for the remote to turn the sound down – they just skip to the next channel … and will at the next election …

  33. TB Queensland permalink
    July 3, 2017 11:09 am

    Graphs are interesting, TR!

    The $125 pension/seniors electricity hand out is really just a patronising LNP gesture … or maybe its austerity pork barrelling …

    Jokes all round … not!

  34. TB Queensland permalink
    July 3, 2017 5:10 pm

    More LNP stupidity … these morons have no idea how the real world and the real economy works!

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/03/young-jobseekers-could-be-retail-interns-under-new-welfare-program

    Not ALL unemployed kids get welfare … do they work for 12 weeks for nothing … who’s going to monitor the programs …

    Why don’t they have an AWARD for directors and managers and especially bank CEO’s … how come The Mad Abbott was paid at all – he failed ALL of the KPI’s he set for himself …

    This lot needs to be junked and soon before they completely destroy the economy and make 90% of the population destitute … keep ’em hungry? Think that was tried once – in France a couple of hundred years ago … they should read the history!

    Everywhere you turn you see people being stripped of income, work hours and dignity as the Elites hoard wealth and laugh up their sleeves at the poor sods who voted in the Business Party AKA LNP – its like living in a sci-fi film, what’s next … euthanasia at 65 and soylent green for supper?

  35. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 3, 2017 5:51 pm

    This lot needs to be junked and soon before they completely destroy the economy and make 90% of the population destitute

    TB- nothing has deteriorated under the Coalition unlike under Labor. And you have yet to apologise for this i suspect because you cannot wait to do it again

    http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/07/31/young-looking-refugees-sent-offshore

    Young-looking children were chosen to be transferred to the harsh Manus Island refugee detention centre to discourage other refugees from coming to Australia, an inquiry has heard……Gregory Lake, the former director of offshore processing and transfers at the Department of Immigration and Border Protection, told the inquiry he was directed by a ministerial staff member to choose the youngest-looking children from among those eligible for the first transfer of detained people from Australia to Manus Island in 2012, when Labor was in government.

  36. TB Queensland permalink
    July 3, 2017 6:11 pm

    TB- nothing has deteriorated under the Coalition unlike under Labor. And you have yet to apologise for this i suspect because you cannot wait to do it again

    You first …

    Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2017 1:21 pm

    Personally TB i wish you would just rollover and die.

    My original statement stands … let’s start …

    Penalty rate cuts
    Pensioners harassed by Centrelink
    NBN a complete failure

    To be continued …

  37. TB Queensland permalink
    July 3, 2017 6:14 pm

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/03/colombia-three-men-union-alejandro-rodriguez-manuel-bermudez-victor-hugo-prada

    The Mad Abbott & Acolytes will love this …

    I confess to shaking my head tho’ …

  38. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 3, 2017 6:22 pm

    NBN a complete failure

    Which NBN are you talking about? The one Rudd took to the 2007 election or the one Rudd thought up on a plane flight?

  39. July 3, 2017 11:00 pm

    This,,,lot needs to be junked and soon before they completely destroy the economy and make 90% of the population destitute,,,

    No hope in that. The braindead adf, afp-plod, asis, asio and any other spooks are all bought-off; or that fcuking braindead they cannot identify sabotage of the nation from within.

    +++

    ln boltsville they are running a bi-partisan cover-up of their inferno-cladding.

    +++

    qandaland,,, alice springs edition,,, aboriginal `welfare-card` (own by teabags) costs the treasury 8K/per-card/pa,,, to `manage`(deny) the aboriginals their cash. #more.fcuking.rip.offs

    +++

    Yes. l saw the latest work-for-dole slavery-for-retail scam too.

  40. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 4, 2017 7:31 am

  41. TB Queensland permalink
    July 4, 2017 9:27 am

    Minister for sport Greg Hunt offers to intervene in cricket pay dispute. @CFMEU happy to help too!

    That’s how a liberal free market works m8

    Hunt doesn’t understand Separation of Powers OR Industrial Relations protocol … dumber and dumber …

    We pay these donkeys, “how much!” And for “how long!”

    LOL!

  42. TB Queensland permalink
    July 4, 2017 11:41 am

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/radical-new-plan-to-remove-incapacitated-president-trump/news-story/724b15950dcfd274c373450b4ca8332c

    The headline is just waiting in the wings too!

    “Trump You’re Fired!”

    or

    “Donald Your Fired!”

    Or more with more empathy …?

    “Donald, You’re Services Are No Longer Required”

    Can’t wait.

  43. Shane in QLD permalink
    July 4, 2017 11:55 am

    John Howard and Bronwyn Bishop. Please Explain ?????

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/aveo-shares-slump-after-accc-announces-investigation-20170703-gx3q8j.html

  44. Shane in QLD permalink
    July 5, 2017 2:51 pm

    Yet another outsourcing disaster. Licences used to be tested and issued by government employees.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/wa-news/fortunately-nobody-killed-more-than-300-fake-truckie-licenses-in-wa-20170705-gx4xxv.html

  45. TB Queensland permalink
    July 5, 2017 3:32 pm

    Shane,

    The Department of Transport has either cancelled or is in the process of cancelling the 326 licences.

    This should be “The Department of Transport has either cancelled or is in the process of cancelling the 326 licences.” And one RTO should be fined (it used to be $3000 per “award” – Statement of Attainment, Certicate, Diploma, Adv. Diploma or Associate Degree) and be struck off …

    Mmmm … $978,000 fine?

    Usually the states still issue the licence (ie conduct the assessment)?

  46. shaneinqld permalink
    July 6, 2017 12:11 pm

    TB

    The states might issue the licence but the testing and confirmation of competency has been outsourced to private operators. Just like building approvals and inspections for local councils.

    If one more person tells me that WIFI is the future for the internet I will explode. I have WIFI and it slows dramatically as soon as it hits around 7am due to mobile phones being used. I pay $99 per month for a lousy 12Gig. Telstra through the NBN advertises $99 for 100Gig and this also includes Telstra TV. I cannot have fibre or cable as I live 8km from town. Only 8km from town and WIFI is patchy, slow and cumbersome. Our analogue mobile phone system was so much better 15 years ago than the shit we have now. Thanks so much Paul Keating and John Howard and now Tony Abbott and Malcolm Turnbull between you all you destroyed a publicly owned company that covered every single square inch of our land mass and replaced it with privately owned companies only interested in heavily populated areas and stuff the rest of our land mass which is patchy at best and non existent at worst.

  47. TB Queensland permalink
    July 6, 2017 12:26 pm

    shane, can you get a land (telephone) line to your property? Or satellite? (second should be going up soon)

    +++++++++++++++++++

    Re: Licences … the state should do the final assessment for the licence – I’ll bet they by-passed that process … and there are a number of licence testers in WA out of work …

    Like all systems competency based learning is only as good as the people who operate it!

    Makes me wonder about RTO auditing too! (Carried out by the states – although it is a National Training System … )

  48. shaneinqld permalink
    July 6, 2017 1:37 pm

    Yes have landline but cannot get adsl or nbn. Have not investigated satellite yet but have been told by others that it is very expensive, one of my clients and it and it was costing them $1,000 per month.

  49. shaneinqld permalink
    July 6, 2017 1:42 pm

    Just another LNP politician destroying workers wages for their own greed. My God I hate politicians with a passion and the hypocrites like Jeff Kennett make a mockery of our political pensions. Sick and tired of this. The poor employees losing their jobs are being paid far less than the pensions Jeff earns despite making money everywhere else. Hope the Union campaign ramps up to big heights.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/workplace-relations/jeff-kennetts-tech-company-in-crown-casino-pokies-dispute-20170705-gx5673.html

  50. TB Queensland permalink
    July 6, 2017 3:31 pm

    Shane read the BT article above … and this made me shake my head …

    But, without an enterprise agreement, Amtek wages are set by the industry’s safety net, known as the award.

    The author, Nick Costano, sounds like he’s just discovered what a fkn “award” is! “… known as the award …”

    Time for all the unions to step up their recruiting programs!

    I do worry for my g/kids …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Re: “cannot get ADSL or NBN” … are you expected to rely on a mobile phone? That’s sounds odd …

    Some retailers have their own ADSL set up (iiNet is one, I think) …

    Problem for you of course is that your fixed phone is supposed to connect via the NBN … and landline cut off …

    My broadband has been dropping in and out since we became NBN “ready” … maybe its all the new connections? I’ve decided to wait out the 18 months on my cable and see what happens …

  51. shaneinqld permalink
    July 7, 2017 8:13 am

    TB

    I worry for all the future generations, they are being conditioned to accept casual employment, no stability, less benefits, less wages, no annual leave, no sick leave, no long service, no training unless they pay for it themselves, work for free for experience, losing their job once they turn 21 as the employer can get someone cheaper, no home ownership, a polluted and foul planet denuded of flora and fauna.

    Greed forcing the individual to fend for themselves has become the norm thanks to big business.

    Will give you an update regarding internet after I do some more investigating in a few weeks.

  52. TB Queensland permalink
    July 7, 2017 8:36 am

    I worry for all the future generations, they are being conditioned …

    Yep, backwards further every day … I see the bubonic plague is still around too!

    Bloody broadband has dropped out four times in half an hour … v/annoying …

  53. TB Queensland permalink
    July 7, 2017 2:29 pm

    Just discovered the cause of my broadband drop outs … the cable at the wall had unscrewed! Only one culprit … our Neato robot vac!

    I had already called Telstra and they were about to send out a tech out when I found the problem … luckily they had a good laugh … (BTW talking to a “person” within a minute – on the phone for five minutes … impressed.

  54. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 7, 2017 6:14 pm

  55. Ouch`Teabag permalink
    July 7, 2017 9:33 pm

    Did everybody see the prime meddler for `innovation` got well and truly arse-fcuked by the canoeland premier today. lt was fanfcukingtabulous. The rabbits puppet didn`t need to go to the other side of the planet to remain irrelevant. He could have stayed harbourside.

  56. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 8, 2017 12:45 am

    Behind dramatic G20 clashes a deep demand for a better world
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/behind-dramatic-g20-clashes-a-deep-demand-for-a-better-world,10481

    “…Ahead of this week’s mass demonstrations, the NoG20 International coordination said in a statement:

    ‘The politics of neoliberalism and war is decided in the heart of our cities, closed off to citizens, protected by a militarized police force and backed up by the suspension of political rights. This shutting-down of democracy has one purpose only: to defend the indefensible. Our demonstrations speak for and of a different world.’ …”

  57. TB Queensland permalink
    July 8, 2017 9:08 am

    It’s becoming a case of “stop the world I want to get off” … everywhere you turn there’s some arsehole trying to ruin run your life or destroy others’ …

    And every time you analyse the world problem today it leads you to just a few words … GREED … FEAR … POWER … CONTROL … all negative …

    … what about … SHARE … UNDERSTAND … EMPOWER … EQUAL …

  58. TB Queensland permalink
    July 10, 2017 9:30 am

    Will The Mad Monk challenge, Malfunction Tremble when the polls reach 16 negatives for the LNP … ? Two to go?

    Malcolm Turnbull has lost ground to Bill Shorten as the nation’s preferred prime minister, according to the latest Newspoll data.

    Mr Shorten gained on Mr Turnbull after weeks of Liberal party infighting but Mr Turnbull remains the preferred prime minster with 41 per cent of voters naming him over Shorten, who received 33 per cent of the support.

    The poll, conducted for The Australian, also shows Labor leading the Coalition by 53 to 47 per cent on a two-party preferred basis.

    The new poll came as Mr Turnbull tried to downplay a growing rebellion in his party over same-sex marriage.

  59. Shane in QLD permalink
    July 10, 2017 4:03 pm

    TB

    What amazes me is that the hard right think that if Abbott was leader the poll would be better. How can that be if the ALP vote is up. Right Wing Nutters would never vote for the ALP they would move their vote to another conservative party like ON. So it is the true swinging voters that have shifted. They have seen the unfairness in so many policies and have swung away from the LNP. If Abbott was PM the polls would be worse not better.

    Looks bad for the LNP no matter who is leader, now that the centre has shifted and seem permanently shifted.

  60. TB Queensland permalink
    July 10, 2017 5:49 pm

    Agree, Shane, add to that the drama that is occurring in the Greens – who almost “had me”!

    Time for a Baby Boomers’ Party, I reckon! 🙂

  61. Shane in QLD permalink
    July 11, 2017 7:23 am

    Yet they wonder why we hate them with a passion.

    To refuse to agree to ethical standards just shows they are in there for the money and the greed. Thieving politicians. Only 53 of 226 sign up.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/majority-of-federal-mps-refuse-to-sign-up-to-tony-fitzgeralds-ethical-standards-20170710-gx820x.html

  62. July 11, 2017 8:39 am

    Where is the team-swooner? He should be chortling his nuts off now that the canoeland premier is getting worlds biggest battery. l can`t wait to see the dildo that battery is going to be used in, before being shoved up Friedburgers arse. Think warm thoughts Josh.

    ++++

    l suppose ol`trainy trainy will be creating lots of but,but,buts now that the adf have been caught-out killing un-armed citizens and weapons `dropping` in our middle east (mis)adventures. (as l predicted adf were doing too, when teh-yanks were caught)

    ++++

    Regular bleating on my abc mediawatch is the `ad-revenue` moving to the online monsters google and facebook, and away from traditional fakenews outlets and churnalists. That was last night too. These fcukers aint learning a fcuking thing. This morning, my abc breakfast clap-trap ran again, mh17 as tewwa on the 3rd anniversary of the shoot-down. Once again they had the poor fcuker who lost both parents on to fullfill the role of useful idiot and talking head. Still no on-air admission of 16-war jets being shot down before mh17. Still no aknowledging they died because the airline was taking a shortcut over a warzone to save petrol money. And still not picked up by so-called mediawatch.

  63. shaneinqld permalink
    July 11, 2017 8:47 am

    Why doesn’t the LNP act like this when it is a pay rise for the poor worker. Instead of hysterically claiming the country will go broke and objecting to every pay rise for the poor but 1 in the last 30 years. Where is the LNP attacking the Cricketers Association and introducing laws to stop this outrageous actions. No there is money involved and donors involved.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/settle-it-malcolm-turnbull-and-theresa-may-weigh-in-on-ashes-strike-20170710-gx8jnm.html

  64. TB Queensland permalink
    July 11, 2017 10:20 am

    CHORTLE!

    “The sensible centre, to use Tony Abbott’s phrase, was the place to be and it remains the place to be now,” Turnbull said.

    “In 1944 Menzies went to great pains not to call his new political party, consolidating the centre right of Australian politics, ‘conservative’ – but rather the Liberal party which he firmly anchored in the centre of Australian politics.

    “He wanted to stand apart from the big money, business establishment politics of traditional ‘conservative’ parties of the right, as well as from the socialist tradition of the Australian Labor party – the political wing of the union movement.

    “We took the name ‘Liberal’ because we were determined to be a progressive party, willing to make experiments, in no sense reactionary but believing in the individual, his right and his enterprise, and rejecting the socialist panacea.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/11/turnbull-challenges-abbott-party-liberal-not-conservative

  65. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 11, 2017 10:23 am

    Hi all, just some items of interest on twitter this am.

  66. TB Queensland permalink
    July 11, 2017 10:50 am

    KL, what a depressing collection of tweets … reinforces my decision some years ago to avoid both Facebook and Twitter … both well named in fact!

    TAX the buggers and their Family Trusts I say! ‘Tis only an avoidance scheme – I knew of relatives who “paid” their two daughters – both under 16 and both collecting Austudy because the Family Trust reduced the taxable income of their (now) multi millionaire parents! (You can guess their religious leanings I’ll bet!)

    What happened to good manners and respect in this country? Sky News stole them!

    Why is Latham still around … the man was/is a nutjob!

    And finally …

    433mbps!!!!

    To put that in perspective we struggle to get better than 25mbps in most Oz homes … and 100mbps is the highest on offer!

  67. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 12, 2017 7:13 am

    I’m impatient for the revolution.

    Neoliberalism: The Law Of The Jungle And The Monkey On Our Back
    https://newmatilda.com/2017/06/12/social-justice-or-the-jungle-and-the-monkey-on-our-backs/

    The author, in answer to a comment:

    …Mike Dowson · Director at Metascape
    That’s the big question, Roslyn, isn’t it. Jim’s suggestion is relevant. We have power as voters. But this power is wasted if we presume a binary contest between parties which are both in thrall to big money.

    Having thought about this a lot, I believe there is no simple solution. It will require reform of our financial and monetary systems and political donations, greater transparency and public accountability, and the systematic elimination of corruption, nepotism and rent-seeking from the halls of power.

    Of course, that’s going to be difficult. There will be great resistence. It is possible, if we – ordinary citizens – put aside our differences and come together on what we have in common – the need for our governments to represent us all. As Jeremy Corbyn recently said, they are few, we are many. Once we get back our democracy, we can build policy from the ground up, instead of choosing from the limited options offered by big business.

    I think that has to begin at the grass roots, in communities – both geographical and sectional. There are signs of it. Many people are working towards it. Organisations like this are trying to link people together:..

    https://neweconomy.org.au/

  68. TB Queensland permalink
    July 12, 2017 9:38 am

    NENA looks interesting, KL …

  69. Shane in QLD permalink
    July 12, 2017 12:46 pm

    The biggest culture of theft., lies and deceit in this country is business. When is the RC going to happen ?

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/security-guards-who-spoke-with-fair-work-threatened-with-sack-ombudsman-claims-20170712-gx9hr5.html

  70. shaneinqld permalink
    July 12, 2017 12:51 pm

    TB

    Every day is a day of depression at the moment. Then we have Craig James this morning spouting how good business says the economy is, based on, as usual, a survey. Surveys are only as good as what is asked and who returns them. I would like to know 1) What questions were asked. 2) how many were asked to complete it 3) how many actually responded 4) were they small or big business.

    He also started spouting that wages were growing and employment demand was growing. What a crock of shit, wages are stagnated except for those at the top like Craig James. If we took away their wage increases and bonus increases wages would be 0% increase.

    In addition lower penalty rates are now starting to kick in so wages will actually go backwards if you remove the likes of Craig James and those at the top.

  71. shaneinqld permalink
    July 12, 2017 1:35 pm

    There are times when cutting the young off the teat of taxpayer support is warranted.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/cbd/should-i-use-the-ole-size-16s-lecturer-goes-on-rant-after-being-faced-with-empty-classroom-20170712-gx9gu4.html

  72. TB Queensland permalink
    July 12, 2017 2:31 pm

    shane, re the lecture story … while I sympathise with any presenter and an empty room (happened to me once at Blackwater – I wondered why I had such a crowded room the first session – two groups had been given the same date!).

    Unfortunately “learning” is still misunderstood by many lecturers, teachers and trainers … “adults and children learn best by ‘doing'” … not by being talked at …

    I learned not to train people but to facilitate the learning process a quite different approach … its not about the lecture/teaching/training technique but helping people to become competent (ie applying the learning) using tasks and exercises to modify behaviour (and occasionally attitude) … and competence includes being capable of applying both skill and knowledge in the real world …

    (Yeah, I miss it occasionally!)

  73. shaneinqld permalink
    July 12, 2017 2:59 pm

    Bought some Cadbury Turkish Delights and Flakes yesterday. Now made in New Zealand so guess who is now off Cadbury chocolate. I am a staunch Aussie supporter whenever I can.

  74. shaneinqld permalink
    July 12, 2017 3:20 pm

    TB

    One of my clients advertised a position and 16 people were booked for interviews from employment agencies. Only 2 turned up everyone else had excuses.

    I sympathise as well but if a class is totally empty and there are no reasons why, no date conflicts, no contagious virus of which they all contracted and no public holiday, there is something wrong.

    I fully support welfare, you know that, but I also am sick of those rorting the system and if not one single student turned up something is wrong.

    We do learn by doing, but there is also a certain amount of theory and practical exercises. My previous employer had a college we used to attend to be trained as well as do theory before dealing with customers.

    We all have different approaches, however this does not excuse not turning up for a lecture, or appointment , or meeting or anything else when you are being financially supported by the taxpayer without a good reason in my opinion. Otherwise it smacks of entitlement.

    I had no choice in who my trainer/facilitator was or whether I liked or disliked his method. I had to attend. That is being responsible and accepting that not everything is done exactly the way we would like.

  75. TB Queensland permalink
    July 12, 2017 4:01 pm

    shane, your talking to someone who did one of the last five year apprenticeships in QLD … two three hour nights a week (after an eight hour day) – got home after 10:00! One day a fortnight … and in the 90’s a five year distance ed degree working full time/travelling and a couple of teenage kids … I “get” commitment and agree with your comments re: “entitlement” …

    ‘Tis truly a different world …

  76. shaneinqld permalink
    July 12, 2017 5:42 pm

    TB

    You would be aware that in the finance industry there is a lot of brouhaha regarding home loans to clients that they could not afford, so I did a simple calculation today just out of interest because the lending rules are changing all the time and mostly at the behest of the government departments who are simply bean counters and not in the real world.

    All of the funders have servicing calculators that we input a clients income, assets, liabilities and living expenses to calculate whether a loan can be serviced.

    With all these hasher restrictions the following transpired.

    The system increased customers actual monthly commitments by $2,531.
    The system increased customers actual monthly living expenses by $1,477
    The system reduced the clients actual monthly rental income by $2,696

    This resulted in an overall negative change to my clients ability to service a loan by $80,448 or $6,704 per month.

    Giving my client 33% less capacity to service a loan. If they think this can continue then the lending market will simply dry up. Taking 33% off capacity to service in the name of conservative lending is simply too ridiculous for words.

    Also destroys First Home Buyers as well, when the allowance for possible changes in circumstances gets out of control.

    Prudent and sensible lending yes, ridiculous assessment levels and living expenses no.

  77. TB Queensland permalink
    July 12, 2017 6:34 pm

    Those number sound ludicrous! Low/no wage increases … and CoL increasing almost weekly … we really are going backwards …

    Elites and peasants …

    Although I see you quote “monthly rental income” … are you a fan of negative gearing???

    I’m presently reading “Too Big To Fail” by Andrew Ross Sorkin … and the disgusting “bonus” and salaries these (mostly men) ROBBER BARONS earned each year … and got away with (walked away) scot free in the end …

    The Uber Kapitalist Syztem has been well and truly rooted by the Yanks … WEST … how to destroy your economic system … greed! Never fails …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Just got our power bill … we are owed … yep owed … $600 (half year total) … that original $6000 investment is still paying up … amortised three years ago … noice to beat the buggers at their own game … our ex-resident CPA could never understand the concept of investing in solar energy … chose to criticize rather than look at the business facts …

    As long as we profit I’ll stay on the grid … as soon as we pay I’ll install a battery …

  78. TB Queensland permalink
    July 12, 2017 10:26 pm

    QUEENSLANDER!

  79. Tom R permalink
    July 13, 2017 6:12 am

    If they think this can continue then the lending market will simply dry up.

    What do you mean, it’s all fine out there, the papers told us so.

    https://johnjohnsonson.wordpress.com/2017/07/11/how-fairfax-is-destroying-the-property-market-to-save-itself/

  80. shaneinqld permalink
    July 13, 2017 6:32 am

    TB

    You would know from previous comments that I am not a fan of negative gearing at all. It should be removed for all new investments.

    Having said that it is part of the industry I am in and at this stage a legal benefit for those who wish to invest in property. It would be improper for me to not support my clients in relation to negative gearing options. Also my clients would simply go to someone else and thereby destroying my own business.

    I may not support negative gearing, but I do want to have a business so I can pay my bills.

    The figures I provided had nothing to do with negative gearing for the servicing exercise.

  81. shaneinqld permalink
    July 13, 2017 7:16 am

    Tom R

    I am aware of all the tricks of the Real Estate world with Auction Rates being one of the most concocted statistics of all.

    Just when have you ever heard a Real Estate agent telling you that now is not the time to buy or sell ?. It is always a buyers market and always a sellers market because if it was not then they would not have properties to sell or buyers to purchase. No matter what the economy or market, a real estate agent will tell you NOW is the time. There has NEVER been a better time. I have OTHER OFFERS so you need to pressure your broker to get finance as quickly as possible. Blah Blah Blah it becomes white noise to me but stresses First Home Buyers in particular.

  82. shaneinqld permalink
    July 13, 2017 7:21 am

    Once again the underhanded tactics of big business to achieve profit and greed.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/exposed-big-tobaccos-behindthescenes-astroturf-campaign-to-change-vaping-laws-20170712-gx9lsl.html

  83. July 13, 2017 7:31 am

    I`m,,,impatient for the revolution,,,

    For sure neoteabagism is a destructive force for all non-elite citizens, and l enjoyed the explainers in the matilda post armchair, but it is still just a symptom of our (so-called democracy`s) system. The main problem is the system itself. lt doesn`t punish perpetrators or `enforce` what most of us would consider right, just or correct.

    For example, lf some arsehole was smashing up your car with a sledge hammer, you would just phone the plod to take the vandal away to the gulag. But when the vandal/s is a minister and/or prime meddler, there is no plod for us to call, to stop them smashing up and sabotaging our network. (or anything else EG medicare, pensions etc) The compulsory tri-yearly attendance for non-choice selections will never cut it.

  84. July 13, 2017 7:49 am

    wages,,,would be 0% increase,,,

    Correct Shane, agree.

    lower,,,penalty rates are now starting to kick in so wages will actually go backwards,,,

    And my little predictions here is 1) Aldi is the big winner, and 2) Those shopping strips that think chopping their lowest paids wages is a big `win`, will be finding it totally opposite in 18-months time.

  85. shaneinqld permalink
    July 13, 2017 8:41 am

    Drain

    Agree, there will be substantial casualties in the shopping strips, especially the restaurants that state they cannot open unless wages are slashed. They might open but many will close their doors for good. The only benefit will be to big franchises like McDonalds and KFC as more people take up the cheapest food options due to less income.

  86. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 13, 2017 9:32 am

  87. July 13, 2017 9:46 am

    Opponents of Adani’s vast new Queensland mine have howled at the premier after she told them they would not stop coal mining in the state.

    Protesters interrupted Annastacia Palaszczuk’s town hall meeting in Cairns on Tuesday night, chanting “no, no, no” in opposition to the mine.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/premier-faces-howls-over-adani-mine-at-town-hall-meeting-20170711-gx9ebj.html

    But the Premier told them jobs were vital and coal mining would not cease in Queensland: “Coal is going to be a part of our energy mix for many years to come,” she said.

    “Rubbish!” the protesters howled in reply.

    They later interrupted the meeting by bursting into song.

    # ,, the resident feminista aint going to like this!

    The Premier’s comments came on the same day her government announced a plan to fight climate change and help protect the Great Barrier Reef by cutting Queensland’s carbon emissions.

    The plan includes aims to “de-carbonise” the state’s emissions-intensive energy sector.

    But while that plan is being executed in Queensland, Adani will be allowed to mine and export the state’s coal so it can be burned in India’s power stations, with India to account for those emissions.

    # ,, Yes! , lt`s another fcuking DUD!! (-: (-: (-: (-:

  88. July 13, 2017 10:08 am

    Part-2 Deputy DUD

    Queensland will have zero net emissions by 2050, under a plan to drive down carbon pollution announced by the state government.

    Deputy Premier Jackie Trad said the Queensland plan was necessary to help the nation implement the Paris Agreement.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/queensland-to-aim-for-zero-net-emissions-2050-target-20170711-gx8qo2.html

    “We know that the Turnbull LNP government at a federal level has failed to provide the national leadership that this country needs in order to meet our obligations under the Paris Agreement,” Ms Trad said.

    “That’s why the Palaszczuk government is taking action now.”

    # ,, FMD armchair, bananaland has chicks-in-charge that are equal rabbit puppets to talkbull. You always reckoned things would be `better` with the chicks in charge. They seem to be oozing the same level of delusion the dudes ooze. #bye.bye.reef

  89. TB Queensland permalink
    July 13, 2017 10:13 am

    The Premier’s comments came on the same day her government announced a plan to fight climate change and help protect the Great Barrier Reef by cutting Queensland’s carbon emissions.

    Queensland Premiere: “Yesterday I couldn’t spell hypocrite, today I are one …”

    From Anna to Annastacia … what next … Annachronism?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Still there is some good news in Queensland …

    Queensland 22 – NSW 6 … another State of Orange* WIN!

    GO MAROONS!

    QUEENSLANDER!

  90. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 13, 2017 10:53 am

  91. July 13, 2017 12:06 pm

    From,,,Anna to Annastacia,,,

    lt does seem bananaland is having quite a run of duds in charge teebz, not that the other states are immune. What always sticks out like dogs balls to me is the `sameness` among the lot of them. AP and talkbull are both incinerating taxpayer hardearned on adani and the paris weather club. Both are waffling the same nonsense, pretending it will be somebody elses pollution, and pretending their teams are different while doing identical things. lt also shoots the shit out of claims that having female govt quotas will make things better for the country/citizens. All working examples so far say otherwise. #fcuking.duds #corporate.puppets

  92. TB Queensland permalink
    July 14, 2017 10:34 am

    Dopey Dutton has been quite quiet since this story first broke … unless he’s down with Asian Flu? 🙄

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/border-force-officer-quits-amid-inquiry/news-story/1bf4a182db28939ca18483d4d93837a8

  93. Shane in QLD permalink
    July 16, 2017 6:01 am

    Political motivation on a disgraceful scale. Guarantee will not happen to rural areas with white farmers in larger states who vote LNP.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/aec-cuts-will-disempower-the-nt-labor-mp/news-story/982f213691b66145dc3fe71aa1de08d0

  94. July 16, 2017 8:14 pm

    Did everybody see the termite mound in hawaii that went up in smoke. Poor standards or not enforced. No fire sprinklers. The perfect groundwork for the taliban with a box of matches. #yaaay.boardrooms

    ++++

    Whether they are spouting `innovation` or `recalling` menzies, the teabags are nothing but a herd of destructive imbeciles. After decades of doing all they can to fcuk-up manufacturing and heavy industry, poodle is now mincing for a `military-industry` while others have been bleating for a `space-agency`. #clueless.cnuts

  95. Tom R permalink
    July 17, 2017 9:43 am

    I wonder if our cricketers will be brought before justice hayDon?

    Australian cricket’s pay dispute is a wonderful ad for joining a union

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2017/jul/16/australian-crickets-pay-dispute-is-a-wonderful-ad-for-joining-a-union

  96. TB Queensland permalink
    July 17, 2017 10:33 am

    Just what the world (and Australia) needs – more weapons … we could export Poodles instead … to China and Bali?

    Christopher Pyne has committed not to export weapons “willy-nilly” if Australia followed through on his ambition to become a major arms exporter.

    “We simply wouldn’t do so willy-nilly. We have a particular process for that.”

    And we’ve seen how effective the government’s “processes” are!

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/17/pyne-wants-australia-to-be-major-arms-dealer-but-vows-not-to-export-weapons-willy-nilly

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I wonder if our cricketers will be brought before justice hayDon?

    I bet more witnesses would go into bat for the cricketers!

  97. Tom R permalink
    July 17, 2017 4:38 pm

    I bet more witnesses would go into bat for the cricketers!

    I see what you did there 😉

  98. TB Queensland permalink
    July 17, 2017 6:15 pm

    HOW MUCH!

  99. TB Queensland permalink
    July 17, 2017 6:23 pm

    TurnAbout is an even bigger FOOL than I had suspected! (Centre right, my arse!)

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/17/malcolm-turnbull-expected-to-promote-dutton-during-national-security-overhaul

    NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! A thousand times NO!

    Why are we seeing history repeated? The world has leaned so far to the right I’m surprised that we aren’t heading for the Sun … oh, wait!

    Short history lesson!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler

  100. TB Queensland permalink
    July 17, 2017 6:24 pm

    I see what you did there 😉

    Cleverman! (Interesting TV! BTW)

  101. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 18, 2017 12:38 am

    …Cleverman! (Interesting TV! BTW)…

    I’m loving that show TB!

    Matt Canavan got shot down on QandA I thought.

  102. TB Queensland permalink
    July 18, 2017 10:41 am

    Missed Q&A *, but read the article in The Guardian … I can’t see why people still support the government? (Although the Old Guard has disappeared from TGT) …

    * We’re watching a TV series thriller called “Shooter” … really good show – ex-marine sniper set up and accused of assassinating Ukraine President …

  103. Tom R permalink
    July 18, 2017 1:10 pm

    but read the article in The Guardian

    As did I

    There is no transcript on the website, so maybe AO can decipher this for me?

    Terri Butler, the opposition frontbencher from Queensland, evaded a question from host Tony Jones about whether federal Labor opposed a mine state Labor supported, saying the “role of federal Labor in this project is to form a view” on whether a government loan was appropriate – and that it was not.

    So, did she there is no view yet, or “that it was not”?

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/18/matt-canavan-exporting-adani-coal-does-not-affect-australias-emissions?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    Why do ‘journalists’ feel the need to mangle the English language so badly when desribing a simple event?

  104. Tom R permalink
    July 18, 2017 2:49 pm

    Cool, the transcript is up now

    http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s4678266.htm

    TERRI BUTLER
    Tony, the role of federal Labor in relation to this project is to form a view about whether to support the federal money going into it. Bill’s been really clear. We don’t support federal money going into this mine. We don’t support taxpayers’ money going into this mine, whether it’s the rail line or the mine. And we don’t support a billion-dollar concessional loan from the NAIF going into this particular project. And I think Bill’s been clear about that. Jason Clare’s been clear about that.

    Seems pretty clear to me. yet to the churnalist, that is ‘evaded a question ‘??

    WOW!

  105. TB Queensland permalink
    July 18, 2017 3:29 pm

    Seems pretty clear to me. yet to the churnalist, that is ‘evaded a question ‘??

    WOW!

    Do journalists go to school? (Primary at least, surely!)

    Maybe its the teachers? … they have trouble with spelling and grammar too …

    (My Mum wanted me to be a journalist – obviously way out of my league – I understand most grammar and have a reasonable grasp of spelling!) …

  106. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 18, 2017 5:07 pm

    …Seems pretty clear to me. yet to the churnalist, that is ‘evaded a question ‘??
    WOW!…

    IIRC, it was Tony Jones who wanted her to say whether Labor supported the mine, she wouldn’t answer yes or no, he was unhappy about that and asked it again, wanting a yes or no answer. The bit you pasted tomR was her answer to him, she didn’t really say.

  107. TB Queensland permalink
    July 18, 2017 5:31 pm

    IIRC? Whew – had to look that up in the UD …

  108. TB Queensland permalink
    July 18, 2017 5:38 pm

    The bit you pasted tomR was her answer to him, she didn’t really say.

    She didn’t actually say what the transcript says?

    I thought the transcript, TR, put up was self explanatory …

    We don’t support federal money going into this mine. We don’t support taxpayers’ money going into this mine, whether it’s the rail line or the mine. And we don’t support a billion-dollar concessional loan from the NAIF going into this particular project.

    Three “we DON’T support’s”?

    What did I miss … ?

  109. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 18, 2017 5:58 pm

    …Three “we DON’T support’s”?
    What did I miss … ?

    She said they didn’t support taxpayer’s money funding it, but didn’t really answer the question asked – whether Labor supported the mine at all.

    Qld Labor wants the mine doesn’t it?

    The Ineligibles: What makes you have to leave Parliament?
    https://moadoph.gov.au/blog/the-ineligibles/

  110. TB Queensland permalink
    July 18, 2017 9:43 pm

    Ahh, I see, KL, yes, its always struck me as odd how the Palaszczuk Labor government, is so determined to see Adani go ahead … and Fed Labor isn’t …

  111. Tom R permalink
    July 19, 2017 9:03 am

    She said they didn’t support taxpayer’s money funding it

    Which was the original question. She clarified that when she answered.

    It’s really not the Governments place to just ban a legal operation, is it. Let the market decise, and, that is Labors position.

    But, the questioning was all to do with a Government loan (except jones question to Butler)

    She clarified her answer, and answered it completely. If he had wanted to chase his poorly formed question down that avenue, he could have.

    On another topic, that is truly amazing about the Greens senators. Even more amazing, at least one is a lawyer.

    Sad to see them go though, as they are both very good performers.

  112. TB Queensland permalink
    July 19, 2017 10:29 am

    Sad to see them go though, as they are both very good performers.

    Exactly what I said last night …

    Along with … “they could call me up for NS in 1970/71 … yet I didn’t become an Australian Citizen till 1984!

    “And how can we have a Head of State who isn’t Australian?”

    (The Minister – a Viking by birth and by nature 🙂 – had to declare her “allegiance” to Australia – ie apply for citizenship before she turned 21 – in the early 70’s)

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    A big WELL DONE to JB Hi-Fi for deciding NOT to cut penalty rates for their staff!

    Credit where credit is due …!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Some Liberal pollie on the radio this morning saying that business donated equally to both major parties and the Liberals, “were not beholden to big or small businesses” … they were a “Menzian party” whatever the fk that means … maybe they should try being a party for Australians!

  113. Tom R permalink
    July 19, 2017 11:14 am

    Some Liberal pollie on the radio this morning saying that business donated equally to both major parties

    Not sure if their equals equals others equals?

  114. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 19, 2017 12:18 pm

    Foxtel’s $30m budget funding questioned after FOI reveals documents on sport deal ‘don’t exist’
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-19/foxtel-foi-request-30-million-sports-deal/8722656

    The new Department of Home Affairs is unnecessary and seems to be more about politics than reform
    https://theconversation.com/the-new-department-of-home-affairs-is-unnecessary-and-seems-to-be-more-about-politics-than-reform-81161

    ‘Submit to your husbands’: Women told to endure domestic violence in the name of God
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-18/domestic-violence-church-submit-to-husbands/8652028

  115. TB Queensland permalink
    July 19, 2017 12:50 pm

    Submit to your husbands’: Women told to endure domestic violence in the name of God
    .

    Research shows that the men most likely to abuse their wives are evangelical Christians who attend church sporadically

    The “research” sounds a bit light, methinks … although Catholics would only confess to another man (no female priests!) and not a questionnaire and Muslims would simply plead a lack of understanding and ignore the question anyway … perhaps atheists and agnostics are more tolerant …?? 🙂

    I recall telling people it wasn’t, The Minister, going through menopause (when she brought it up) … WE were going through menopause …

    Just sayin’ …

  116. Tom R permalink
    July 19, 2017 12:52 pm

    Foxtel’s $30m budget funding questioned

    Holden’s would be interested methinks

  117. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 19, 2017 2:07 pm

  118. TB Queensland permalink
    July 19, 2017 3:32 pm

    If Immigration, Border Force, AFP and ASIO all come under a Home Affairs Department … who will check on Immigration, Border Force, AFP and ASIO?

    Dopey Dutton?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Refugee and fracking activists a ‘bunch of cockroaches’, says Liberal pursuing Senate vacancy

    It sounds like a noice man … ??? Speaking of Herr Abetz …

  119. TB Queensland permalink
    July 19, 2017 6:07 pm

    CLICK ENERGY!

    I joined OneBigSwitch a couple of years ago and on their recommendation we switched to Click …

    They just bumped their Solar Tariffs up … not just for new customers – for ALL customers – we have gone from Retail 11cents to 15cents onto the grid … our son’s bill with AGL just dropped 2cents!!! On contract! Did I mention Click! Energy have no contracts?

    Provide the service and the $$$$s will folla!

  120. Shane in QLD permalink
    July 20, 2017 6:21 am

    What a bunch of Hypocrites. Slash the ABC while giving it to Foxtel. Plus refusing to release evidence of a cost benefit study.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/poorly-planned-foxtels-30-million-government-handout-questioned-20170719-gxebax.html

  121. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2017 9:00 am

    Slash the ABC while giving it to Foxtel

    The list of what they aren’t prepared to pay for is long, especially when you compare it to any good this may have (apart from positive coverage from murdor)

    Social Security
    Health
    Public Schools (which they have successfully shovelled off to the states, without any idea how they will pay for it)
    Manufacturing (Unions!)

    I could go on.

  122. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 20, 2017 9:01 am

    Morning folks! 🙂

    Wow, don’t tell Andrew Bolt

    Philanthropy funds serious journalism in US. Why not here?
    https://www.michaelwest.com.au/philanthropy-funds-serious-journalism-in-us-why-not-here/

    Flawed by design: why superannuation fails women
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/flawed-by-design-why-superannuation-fails-women-20170719-gxe7nj.html

    …Labor has a blind spot with women. In 1983 the newly elected Hawke government ratified the United Nations Convention on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women as it had to, but entered two reservations. It wouldn’t ratify the bit about employing women in combat roles, and it wouldn’t ratify the bit about guaranteeing women paid parental leave.

    That’s right. Australia put itself in the unlikely company of Swaziland, Lesotho, Papua New Guinea and the United States as being the only countries of any size not to ensure that women who had children got paid while on leave…

  123. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2017 9:01 am

  124. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2017 9:13 am

    not to ensure that women who had children got paid while on leave…

    Don’t we currently have a paid parental leave AO, despite the fights from the libs?

  125. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2017 9:26 am

    Flawed by design

    That truky is a cringeworthy article AO

    He slams every progress Labor has made, claiming ‘it’s just not far enough’ (ignoring the steps they made after, as they politically were able, and the fact that they are over 30 years ago), but then gushes over abbotts unfair and impossible red herring ppl, that he himself reneged on, like he’s the coming saviour.

    Sounds like a liberal toady to me, which peter martin often does btw.

    The fact that super is unfair is mainly due to policies pushed and forced on us by libs, that just make workplace conditions unfair for all, which results in it being unfairer for women, as that was the starting point.

    But yea, BlameLabor. friggin lightweight he is

  126. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 20, 2017 9:42 am

    Jobs ‘black market’ underpaying vulnerable workers, audit finds
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/17/jobs-black-market-underpaying-vulnerable-workers-audit-finds?CMP=share_btn_tw

    …“The figures themselves are far in excess of what we thought the problem was,” Morey said. “There is a business model in Australia where people think they can pay community rates rather than the legal rates in this country and it’s a real problem across the board.”

    Morey said foreign workers were often scared to speak out about being paid too little.

    “Some people are just fearful of coming forward to complain about employers for the ramifications that may occur from that, such as having their visa cancelled,” he said…

    …The worst industries for underpayment were hospitality and cleaning, according to the union…

    And no penalties either?

    Why aren’t ordinary Australians demanding this exploitation is stopped?
    I think we have too many bigoted and judgemental, neoliberal ideologues now, people just don’t care about others anymore, especially migrants and minorities. As long as they can shut themselves away in their secure mansions and negative gear their way to wealth, Australians just don’t give a damn.

  127. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 20, 2017 10:02 am

    That truky is a cringeworthy article AO

    I knew that would provoke a response!

    But, women’s financial equality and security has certainly been ignored by both parties. IMO, there is still an attitude that women should be dependent on men. Why has it been such a struggle for Australian women in a country where the men pride themselves on being fair minded, egalitarians? [and need the female’s financial contributions in order to live well]

    How would men feel if women were equal to them in every aspect of their lives, if they couldn’t feel superior to them? Hardly bears thinking about!

    Male contributors here excepted of course!

  128. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2017 10:36 am

    What a bunch of Hypocrites. Slash the ABC while giving it to Foxtel. Plus refusing to release evidence of a cost benefit study.

    And on top of that …

    The commercial free-to-air TV industry did not receive an equivalent gift but the government did abolish its licence fees in the May budget. The move, which saw broadcasting licence fees and datacasting charges abolished, will save them $130m and was welcomed by Nine, Ten and Seven.

    Fifield said licence fees were being abolished because they were from an era when television had a mass audience.

    “In today’s media environment, licence fees are a relic of a bygone age of regulation,” he said.

    $130 million giveaway to big business … $130 million that can’t be spent running the country … do these morons realise Australia has to be operated with all sources of income …

    This is like the Uber debacle … no licence fees? Why? When cabbies have/had to pay $thousands$ …

    Then the LNP burbles that the budget is in crisis and needs to be balanced … what fkn morons …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    $9! Where do I pay! Half of my pension but WGAF!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    I watched Four Corners last night … more disgusting Roman Catholic paedophile cover ups in the USA … and district attorneys thwarted by statutes of limitation … 69 priests named …

    http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/

  129. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2017 10:45 am

    But, women’s financial equality and security has certainly been ignored by both parties.

    ?
    http://www.alp.org.au/delivering_equal_pay

  130. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 20, 2017 12:23 pm

    Start fighting IR or prepare for the world according to Sally McManus
    http://www.afr.com/opinion/columnists/start-fighting-ir-or-prepare-for-the-world-according-to-sally-mcmanus-20170719-gxe5xv#ixzz4nKJ0SmCQ

  131. Shane in QLD permalink
    July 21, 2017 6:42 am

    When does the deception stop and honesty start. How on earth can we trust anything in relation to our political system anymore from any of them.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nsw/more-than-13000-spent-on-member-registrations-in-bid-to-buy-the-liberal-party-20170720-gxf9jz.html

  132. TB Queensland permalink
    July 21, 2017 10:07 am

    I want to know if the Blogmeister is OK?

    sreb, come out, come out, wherever you are?

  133. shaneinqld permalink
    July 21, 2017 2:25 pm

    Me too TB hope he is ok.

  134. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 22, 2017 9:02 am

    Uh oh!

  135. July 22, 2017 9:56 am

    I’m alive. Mostly over at twitter and the Guardian lately..

  136. TB Queensland permalink
    July 22, 2017 12:01 pm

    I’m alive. Mostly over at twitter and the Guardian lately..

    Alive is good!

    Mostly? Does that mean that you aren’t alive if your not on twitter or at the Guardian …? 🙂

    I think I’ve made four – maybe five comments at the Guardian … have you noticed no-one comments on news.com.au? Wonder why? (But not much)

    Trivia: Micardis is no longer on PBS – just like Zoton … … what a lovely grubmint, slowly chippin’ away … although it seems to be the whole Western World is crumbling … like all Empires I suppose …

    Putin must be pissin’ himself silly …

    Anyhoo, good to get a ghostly comment … 😈

  137. July 22, 2017 2:45 pm

    “Micardis is no longer on PBS ”

    NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO…….!!!!!!

  138. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2017 6:25 pm

    Does that mean that you aren’t alive if your not on twitter or at the Guardian …?

    Until someone retweets, he is neither dead OR alive 😉

  139. TB Queensland permalink
    July 22, 2017 8:53 pm

    NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO…….!!!!!!

    Won’t get that on twitter or Guardian, mate! 🙂

    I “think” generics are … this fkn mob is not only out to rob us blind but knock us off as quickly as they can …

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Until someone retweets, he is neither dead OR alive 😉

    Please explain? 😉

  140. July 22, 2017 9:14 pm

    Just finished watching Trainspotting 2. Surprisingly good movie. 4 stars from me.

  141. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2017 9:48 pm

    Please explain?

    What, you want (more) pictures? 🙂

    4 stars from me.

    Out of?

    My only question is, do the sheets get it again? If not, I’m not watching!

  142. July 23, 2017 8:42 am

    4 or out 5.

    Yes the sheets get it again, vomit this time.

    And there’s a terrific “”choose life”” soliloquy from Renton.

    *this comment may contain spoilers.

  143. TB Queensland permalink
    July 23, 2017 4:16 pm

    I confess I have never watched either Trainspotting film … a virgin in so many ways … ^^’

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