Conclusions

And that’s after going to the hairdresser!

My mistake. I said 95% of people here didn’t bother with dressing for the peloton when riding a bike.

It’s more like 99.9%

It’s a wonder they’re not all dead with their lack of safety features!

Cycling in lycra makes men look healthy!!

Just look at Tony Abbott!

Rudd was a dick, but he (with the Labor party) did far more good than howard did for his entire time in office.

Latham would have been similar (and dumped just as quickly)

Swan was handed a budget with a $20B surplus and within 12 months had turned it into a $27B deficit and we have been in deficit ever since. We were debt free in 2007 until Rudd/Swan trashed the budget

(No conclusions. Yet.)

BTW, l`m really enjoying the trumptyDumpty balloon protesters are displaying in britannia while theRonald visits their dud leader.

Trump`s “ Disaster is only months away ” @FakeNews

The Legacy outlets echoChamber has been saying that on a daily basis for nearly 4years now. Can l now hear ‘impeachment’ from all our leftists out there? (-: (-: (-:

Over at LimitedNews “ unchanged two party vote of 51/49 ” (teamKnife/teabags)

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/newspoll-malcolm-turnbull-leaves-bill-shorten-in-the-dust/news-story/7a3b6110427fa43d00597bf7f04bd49c?nk=b5ec4848ff1b2e078b4827e956cc1f5b-1531683964

“ Turnbull increased his rating as preferred PM by two points to 48 per cent. ”

” Shorten dropped two points to 29 per cent. “

@To me, it really doesn`t look like blib will do any better at the next fedVote than he did earlier, all that seems to be happening is albo, plib and others are having their lustre diminish while hanging on to blib. l just can`t see voters wanting to swap to blib, so we’re probably going to be stuck with the current wuss again. @fcuk.its.annoying

What an egotistical a***hole Musk has proven to be.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/elon-musk-s-pedo-slur-british-cave-diver-considers-legal-action-20180716-p4zrtv.html

(Equally grubby perhaps?

Stranded with the clap after guzzling spiked champagne?)

#MyHealthFail is starting to make #CensusFail look decidedly professional

Nice find TC, any of the shit that google gives people to load into their webpages also includes ‘scripts’ that hoover up user data. Clearly the dumbfcuks in clowntown are fcuking clueless to this and will end up letting google hoover up and sell citizens medical data.

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(Yes. The over inflated ‘SubX’ ego was on display.)

When it comes to ‘ethics’ and ‘taxAgents’; l wonder if the inHouse blubberer noticed the ATO started agreeing with bigBad bagz this week. (-: (-:

The world has gone mad when people consider bans on surfing and bike riding instead of the very public displays of Government mismanagement of people’s information they didn’t agree for them to have in the first place

https://www.smh.com.au/technology/government-left-red-faced-by-health-privacy-commissioner-s-website-bungle-20180717-p4zs1t.html

I don’t think I can be bothered worrying about who might look at them

she’ll be right. mate 😉

What could go wrong?

Considering that this Government is already targeting people with drug issues, have shown that they will use the information they have for retribution purposes, the fears of third parties getting a hold of information is really the lest of our worries

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jul/16/my-health-record-privacy-cybersecurity-and-the-hacking-risk

Obviously ‘another’ wise decision!

Depends how you look at it folks. During the pilot episode theRonald had said he would make his own decisions and not blindly follow the spooks that claimed saddam had wmd and the sycophants in congress that blindly followed. So theRonald is probably playing nicely now to not fcukup the mid-terms. On the other end of this is the spooks and dems can’t make a single fcukup for next six years. Which may be worth the temporary cow-tow.

Stuck in the echoChamber huh?? You should watch oliver stones interviews with the realDeal; stone even asked the realDeal about yank elections, Putin basically said it didn’t matter to him who wins; they all say many things before winning; but once their (yank) system/congress get hold of them, they all turn into the same thing. Which is quite accurate. Remember ‘hope’ and ‘change’?? Lots of ‘hope’ may have been delivered. Not much ‘change’ tho. The realDeal was also fully aware he could sink any candidate he wanted to; by publicly supporting them. All Putin would have to do is say how much he looked forward working with prez hilary on their many projects; and she would be a goner.

Image of Trump getting a bit of Putin out of his brown nose – Trump is not simply satisfied with being a brown nose to Putin – he’s a full brown head

The ” novvyChock ” in britannia. The echoChamber has been chanting ‘ ruski ‘, ‘ ruski ‘, ‘ ruski ‘. Now the echoChamber will soon be tested. On my abc24 the ‘banner’ said they have identified the people they want. Will they be ‘ ruski ‘? Or will it turn out they are mi5, cia, mossad??

(like most Septic Tanks)

I don’t think that is the case TB, the US is a huge country and has it’s fair share of ignorance, but their are also a lot of entirely sophisticated cities and people.

I often explain that the US version of Kingaroy or Bundaberg would have a million people – but they would still see their city as an outpost. The residents can reflect the types of views that Australians often experience when they visit Queensland.

the US is a huge country and has MUCH, MUCH MORE THAN it`s fair share of ignorance, COUPLED with an intense arrogance drilled into their public from the earliest age; resulting in their master race self belief of arsebackwardness where every looney has the right to military grade weaponry and a national health program to remove the bullets is promoted as a communist plot

(I’ll just linkdrop this here, for any (if any) who might be interested; since the Commonwealth’s present government seems to have robustly and pragmatically memory-holed a slightly more fulsome account(ing) of/for the ‘targets’ from its public-facing explications of (its (in)actions pro/con) fulfilment of) the Sustainable Development Goals, to which it theoretically subscribes.)

a bank executive

(Indeed. In contemporary Australia, I’m perty sure that the rule of law prescribes that criminal(ised) character)s are (to be) annihilated; the Constitutional separation of powers and common law due process prescribe that extra and extrajudicial punishments are to be meted out quasi-arbitrarily, while matters are still sub judice, if not before; and that the rule of man’s Johnny-deciderer(r)-on-the-spot has considerable form for phoning up CEOs late at night on weekends to have someones who somehow irk him given a de facto clip around the ear and a rapid firing by 6am Monday morning; in any event, we already have a renovated Homeland Affairs department operating on alike principles, so extending those sorts of rehabbed good community relations to putative Vatican gang members doesn’t seem too much of a stretch; although, as noted, some lingering question remains as to why a legally-trained rule-of-mannerist characteristically-conveniently is so intent on demonstrating to/for (some kind of) a (domestic) audience his ‘superior’ (religious) convictions; a very tentative answer to which, perhaps, is for all sorts of currently-(un(der)contested in-Party and extra-Party and extra-parties political(-positional) reasons.)

It would be unusual if the opposition lost a seat to the government in a by election, and it would kind of entertaining to hear all the excuses that the ALP barrackers would make-
* It’s Murdoch’s fault
* It’s Abbott’s fault
* The electorate is dumb
* Shorten is such an attractive and visionary leader, but the media hate him

TB recently lamented the ignorance of Americans. This might balance the views about ignorance – and these people are Australian graduates and potential journalists!

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/careers/are-you-smarter-than-a-journalist-comically-underprepared-candidates-fail-basic-knowledge-quiz/news-story/5861cc82d0fe0a8f39be526da5c1c845

dotpoint Nobody claimed any yank could not get into our press club!

The ALP’s economic model in action…………………….

http://time.com/5346708/imf-forecast-venezuela-inflation-2018/

So because the team chose to be non electable at the next fedVote (or-sooner) and are basically having a ‘by’, it is somehow doomsday, and somehow twitters fault, and somehow FakeNews outlets fault, even tho the only people that has secured their position of loss is inside the partyroom?? How the hell did you deduce that TC??

long “ laughed at Australian `journalists` (in fact most `journalists`) but you`re not really comparing oranges with oranges ” @correct/agree

While yomm has taken the bait; l noticed the post quiz was stuff older generations pay attention to or think important etc. l am not sure the same metrics can be applied to the kiddies. The voter and viewer demographics have shattered and fragmented. The kiddies don`t watch teh-news or legacy networks generally. Do they even have any interest in our idiot politics??

One of the reasons I didn’t have a political career – I couldn’t afford to pay off the Playboy models…

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/trump-cohen-recording-of-pay-off-talk-broadcast-on-us-tv-20180725-p4zth1.html

Yes… no worries. It’s entirely appropriate to use taxpayer dollars to walk your dig, if you’re an MP.

It’s entirely appropriate to use taxpayer dollars to walk your dig, if you’re an MP.

I think you mean ‘allegedly’ there yomm 😉

“Australia’s national broadband network, the NBN, will not return a profit on the billions invested in the project, a new report from credit ratings agency Standard & Poors says.

The Australian reported that S&P predicted a write-down of the NBN, which would be politically damaging to the Coalition Government.

The ratings agency claimed that the NBN Co’s business model had led to Australian telecommunications companies investing heavily in mobile services in order to avoid paying the NBN Co’s price”

https://www.itwire.com/telecoms-and-nbn/83761-s-p-report-says-damaging-writedown-of-nbn-inevitable.html

And that is with Turnbull cheaper version. Labors FTTP would bankrupt the country. When 5G comes in a lot of people will go to mobile

its ” about woeful education ” @assuming correct

and ” incompetent teachers (no three generations) ” @but why/how do you think there has been 3generations of crap teachers; when l look at electric/ telco; it is not the techs/tradies fcuking them all up; it IS the political idiots. Are you claiming fed/state idiots aren`t stuffing education?? And noddy improved bananaland education?? lt is not the case in other states, NT.

Except “ it`s no longer allegedly ” @so 20 ex staffers claim they had to pick up turds, yet not one of them was caught on camera picking up blib.

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Well its good to hear noddy pleased you on education Teebz.

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Fancy that kneel. Who would of ever guessed 5g, 4g, 3g, 2g, carrier pigeon was technically superior to telegraph wire.

The teabags obsolete telegraph wire “ is going to find it hard to compete with ” everything.

(And that is with Turnbull cheaper version….Copper has nothing to do with the current NBN problems

I imagine that the big words the investor report used to describe Mr Broadband’s (un)crystallised equity-blackhole were “retrograde technologies”; and failure to compete with whomever wherever with whatever is only enhanced by nominal substitutions, instead of building complementary technologies, or a quasi-whole-of-nation-backbone, as originally designed by NBNCo; then there’s the comparatively high data-unit fees for the spineless NBMTMNCo malware and opportunistic nGs, and their contributions to considerable extant and growing internet gaps between and among regions and across socioeconomic demographics, briefly assessed in the SDG progress report cited above. In short, the ad Libs, as better economic and telco policy managers, achieved much, much less for more, the public pays more for much less, and a nation-building asset was deftly converted into a national liability; win-win-win, ‘ey, mate? And all of it explained ad nauseum. to you, from the beginning(s), despite or in cause of your selective idées fixe, by various civic-minded commentators.)

“Donald Trump’s Hollywood star vandalised with a pickaxe, man arrested after nearly destroying landmark”

That seems like a pretty fair type of protest! No one hurt, plenty of publicity and removes some ugly visual pollution from the footpath!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-26/donald-trump-hollywood-star-vandalised/10037214

Dot – read this from my link

“The ratings agency claimed that the NBN Co’s business model had led to Australian telecommunications companies investing heavily in mobile services in order to avoid paying the NBN Co’s price””

(Why? It’s probably already manifest in NBMTMNCo’s strategic (d)evolution of an exhilarating paradimensionality of (pseudo-)de-throttling re-pricings, rocksolid guarantees of sub-sub-standard, not-even-(fast(er)r)-)broadband(floor-premia), and expanded voice-only (re-)provisionings, as the (im)potent(ial) realities of its master-architect’s retrotechno(un)leash(ed) set in.)

(Those that are easily impressed by high level econoBabble are (un)easily fooled by paperWaffle products regularly (re)produced to holdup their (non)technical understandings of (you)tilities and national infrastructure(s); when simply put, kevin07fiber was a Ferrari and we were being delivered a Ferrari. (Some here would be happy to pay for a Ferrari and be delivered a Datsun.) Under the current teabag obsolete wireCo deal we are now paying for two Ferrari(s) and will be lucky to be delivered half a Datsun.)

Why flying Qantas is totally worth the extra $50
Yes, and in addition to all the reasons outlined in the article, here are a few more-
 Qantas carries out most of the maintenance on its aircraft in Australia, rather than sending it to an anonymous facility offshore.
 Qantas employs large numbers of apprentices – one of the few remaining large companies to do this.
 It maintains its own standards for engineering, rather than simply defaulting to the generic Airbus or Boeing minimum requirements
 It employs over 30,000 people
 The insufferable Richard Branson isn’t promoting himself at every opportunity
https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-advice/flights/plush-af-why-flying-qantas-is-totally-worth-the-extra-50/news-story/65f401a29387d7c27fb9c7dcf2df326f

dotpoint Obeys notams and closed airspace.

dotpoint Doesn`t take its customers over war-bird graveyards.

Kevin07fibre is the Ferrari that most people would like to drive but cannot afford. Even Turnbulls FTTN is expensive. High CVC fees charged by NBNCo means that telcos do not purchase enough bandwidth slowing speeds. People are not even paying for the highest speeds they can get with Turnbulls horse n cart because of the cost

Does anyone really give a crap about the “merger” between Chanel 9 and Fairfax?

The Age (and to a less extent the SMH) have become rags, with poor (agenda driven) reporting usually with factual errors, combined with an infuriating level of illiteracy.

Keating and the hack “journalist” union can complain all they like, but The Age will disappear without trace at its present trajectory of readership.

Really… who gives a crap about whether The Age is owned by Chanel 9 or it just disappears as a result of its own success “strategy”?

Yes most suburbs can be considered ‘old’ and infested with nodes and legacy optsus wire and legacy rupert cable; which the teabags stupidly bought for fraudulent ‘connections’ count; where already existed horse’n cart drivers that also own Ferrari(s). Even tho some paid the big bucks to fuel up the Ferrari and wanted to burn rubber up the information super highway; they had to take the horse’n cart to the local node to pickup the Ferrari. The drivers found their Ferrari could not be put into top gear; the nodes caused traffic jams; promises were not delivered; and they could not take their Ferrari home and park it in the driveway to use whenever they wish. With this level of frustration and disappointment; most drivers returned to their horse’n cart to trot around the information super highway for price of a few bags of oats.

1. Who bought the legacy rupert wire???

2. Who decided to re-use obsolete legacy scrap wire???

and infested with nodes and legacy optsus wire and legacy rupert cable; which the teabags stupidly re-used and bought for fraudulent `connections` count

Feel better??

CFA firefighter John* was a member of the United Firefighters Union (UFU) for more than 20 years until he quit in protest after receiving a letter from a debt collector, demanding $2,040 for a union levy he says he never agreed to.

The UFU sure know how to service their members! And that’s “service” in the animal husbandry sense

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-26/ufu-members-quit-after-debt-collectors-order-payment-for-levies/10036096

The UFU sure know how to service their members

I AGREE!

(maybe even in the double entendre way too?) 😉

And our media sure know how to misrepresent Unions

The Age – 10 years ago daily circulation was 208,000, fast forward to 2018 – circulation is 83,000.

it has lost 60% of it’s readers in 10 years. It is no use all the lefty hand-wringers lamenting its demise, it is a failed business and it either changes or it ceases to exist.

Of course the 80,000 readers might consider the option of coughing up $25,000 each to pay the $2bn to buy it!

“That is why it is so unfair that the ABC gets $1B/year of taxpayers money doing the job that SMH, News……………..””

There is some truth to that. The ABC”s bias is bigger better and cheaper than any bias Fairfax could have ever put up.

So the ABC basically ate Fairfax whilst the News Limited stable flourishes .i.e. News Limited owns 61% of Realestate.com.au which is where Fairfax used to make its money and that site is much more heavily used than the Domain.com.au site of Fairfax

Volunteer who ran Emma Husar’s campaign spent weeks in psychiatric hospital

It’s all a media beat up… and this guy is probably a Liberal Party plant

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/volunteer-who-ran-emma-husar-s-campaign-spent-weeks-in-psychiatric-hospital-20180727-p4zu21.html

suspect “ fairfax have lost a lot of readers to the online ABC ” @echoChamber

Nah, limitednewsAU, my abc, fairfax have been losing viewers to reuters, vice, nyti, washpo, bbc, aljazeera, france24 during the fragmentation of online viewers. The tired limitednews myth of my abc gobbling up limitednews viewers is pure crap. lf the stupid teabags got their wish of closing my abc; limitednews wouldn’t gain a single viewer. lnstead pollies would have to start lending their arse and buckets of cash to the media above to get their waffle covered. Or facebook where half the viewers are.

Fact is Fairfax have lost a lot of readers to the taxpayer funded free of charge ABC. The taxpayer funded ABC just gobbles up fellow leftie blogs. Too funny to watch

the fisherman will frighten the fcuk out of the duopoly by getting a larger `firstChoice` vote than legacy outlets and talking heads claim, but

(@mybad

Mhm. Someone has ‘questions to answer‘.)

Beats me what people see in the ALP. I guess people want this that and whatever from the govt for free and people think they will get free stuff from the ALP

the “ RC on Banking and Financial Services discovers what some of us have always known ” @ditto

On any topic the `same` crowd will always come down on the side of bile-hate-envy-greed because they do not have ambition-vision-ethics.

The zombies could have passed gay marriage for near zero cost, but instead chose to waste tens/hundreds of millions of dollars worth of parliaments time for decades; plus another 120mill on postal poll. The teabags had no problem with corporate monsters stealing from clients fee-for no-service accounts; but tough-on crime when the homeless steal food or blanket.

And “ in case you have forgotten ” the johnW visionless zombie STARTED the decades of waste by scribbling on the fed marriage act so that a state could not allow it. Just as the same teabag zombie flogged off telstra at the dawn of the digital age resulting in all the obsolete telegraph wire waste. @yaaay.zombies

The johnW teabag wasted 11years doing nothing meaningful. Just started lots of waste. 15year iraq war waste. Telegraph wire waste. Gay marriage waste. Nothing but fcuking waste from these tnucs. Too fcuking stupid to even stop the boatie waste over 10bill now. @yaaay.wasters

As l said. Nothing meaningful.

The marine authority and apra were paper lions not funded enough to enforce or prosecute anything. Thanks for reminding me the johnW turd started and ‘entrenched’ the junkjobs. As l said. Nothing meaningful.

The so called marine parks had so many ifs and buts there was still plenty of fish taken. Do ya research dummy. The marine authority/s were too under funded to do any enforcement. On apra, go read some RC testimony and findings. Not enforced as not funded. All meaningless toothless pandas.

Nothing meaningful. Couldn’t even stop the boatie waste.

That’s right. 1bill a year wasted on putting boaties in gulags and the teabags condoned it and didn’t stop the waste. Nothing meaningful.

Auslink? More fcuking waste. The johnW turd let so many inventions go offshore. And all he ever knew about infrastructure was to flog it off. He didn’t even have the brains to use the thermo generation sites he was offered. Not a single iota of anything meaningful. Just waste.

The weekend was a disaster for Turnbull & Albanese

Yes, it was terrible for Albanese, as his party is closer to becoming the Government

What a tragedy for him 😉

Yes and when the moral ALP gets into govt they do nothing but borrow money to pay for their wacky ideas and then everybody is worse off

Paranoid Paramania

https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2016/jun/14/new-research-abbott-and-turnbull-the-worst-economic-managers-since-menzies

Paranoia? Rudd/Swan turned a $20B budget surplus into a $27B deficit within 12 months and we have been in deficit ever since. We were debt free in 2007. Now we are hundreds of billions in debt

NET govt debt was minus 3.3% of GDP in 2007 ie less than zero, 13% in 2013 and 19% now.

Labor started a runaway debt truck which appears unstoppable.

I wish you lefties would just apologise for once instead of giving your ignorant opinions

” dismissal is too severe, I think.”

ya think 😯

(Between now and 2020, Lasswell would have enjoyed studying the `absolutely` committed value(s) entrenched at youngteabag(org) for advancing his knowledge on Politico Psychosis in the (pre)modern era. Unfortunately he would most likely not be allowed inside to observe the youngteabags and their lesson(s) in un(lightenment)arsebackward(ness) so Lasswell would most likely be locked outside and reduced to count(ing) the trucks that delivered the coo(lay)de.)

If your job is to maintain good relations with the government… it may not be appropriate to describe them as “most irresponsible … gutless and reckless’’

It adds a little complication to doing your job.

maintaining professional and courteous relations

It was her personal Twitter

The only ones acting unprofessional and being discourteous are the cricket ostraya and the Government.

With reality? Please explain?

It has been stated that Emma had 2 days to spend in Nth Queensland. She came back a day early so she could use the free tickets she was given.

They all do it. They schedule commitments to be in town when they want to go to something

Gillard did that when she was PM. She used Commonwealth planes to go to an event and then went to a wedding at the same place. What a coincidence!!!

MrRabbit did his `eventShopping` when he went to britannia to flog his book, shopped around for an event to waffle at; so treasury could be stuck with bookpromotion tour costs. All the fcukers do it. More Waste.

People are not paid for 24/7 “loyalty” …

You know there are dozens of examples where that isn’t true TB, you’d know you can’t bully a colleague out of hours. Can’t engage in activities agaisnt the interests or in opposition to the employer…

Let’s hope Labor go for the jugular this time they are in power.

Considering the bastardy shown to them, especially by abbott and his turc, I reckon if I were a lib mp, I’d be more than a bit worried

Get the popcorn ready 😉

Labor says a future federal anti-corruption commission could examine incidents from past governments.

The opposition says the ICAC would determine what matters to investigate, but that Labor would consider referring the Coalition’s decision this year to grant $443.8m towards a small Great Barrier Reef foundation.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_5816465162001

You can’t “bully” anyone out of hours or in hours … its called assault … verbal or physical!

There is an entirely different standard regarding “assault” to bullying. Bullying maybe on-line gossip and taunting – I don’t think that will reach the standard of assault, but decent companies may have policies about that type of behaviour – even out of hours.

I’d imagine you would support those types of policies to protect people from bullying TB.

The problems with the tweet in the Cricket Australia case is that they weren’t simply political – they were inflammatory and insulting… and this is by an employee who is supposed to lobby the government and politicians for support!

As I said, I think dismissal is too harsh if this was a single misdemeanour.

Wow, this is faarked

And Andrews was one of the good grubmints

Seems they are all as bad as each other

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/02/arrested-victoria-labor-party-rorts-for-votes-investigation?CMP=share_btn_tw

Yeah!! Labor staffers are Liberal plants… or Murdoch’s

Labor staffers are Liberal plants… or Murdoch’s

plot lost

This is just turning into a Gutter Trashing (no offense intended reb ) smear campaign of the lowest order

Well done again Oz Meeja

‘I was shocked and afraid’: Women say Greens botched their sexual misconduct complaints

Yes, all political parties try to bury or ignore embarrassing complaints rather than transparently deal with them.

The Greens are no different

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-02/women-say-greens-botched-sexual-misconduct-complaints/10060954

rather than transparently deal with them.

Aren’t workplace complaints supposed be kept confidential until an outcome?

The police have stated they followed standard procedures, do you know that this wasn’t the case?

…and by the way, my personal view of the police (in general) is that they are dumb bullies, attracted to the job because it pays well and allows them to remain bullies without regard to a real sense of public service.

The police culture hasn’t changed for decades

“You know the concerts were elsewhere too. Unless you have evidence,”

What are the chances of Emma being in Brisbane for work at the same time when she had free tickets to go to a concert? I would say zero. Nothing wrong doing things in Brisbane if you just happen to be there but scheduling an appointment to use taxpayer funds is different

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/julia-jets-off-to-a-vip-wedding/news-story/238017071de7e648eaeb89a809a65365

“FRESH from being returned in a farcical leadership spill, Julia Gillard yesterday flew to northern NSW on a taxpayer funded VIP jet for a staffer’s wedding and several low key announcements.”

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/qantas-flight-attendant-sacked-after-new-york-night-out-results-in-20000-hospital-bill/news-story/de9df560d07439c931c4feac9fc9206d

In her decision, Fair Work Commission deputy president Lyndall Dean said it was “well established that in some circumstances an employee may be validly dismissed because of out of hours conduct”.

Fair enough

Besides, it’s irrelevant where the leaks are coming from. Printing them, without checking veracity, and just leaving them out there as if it is fact, is not just the lowest journalism there is, it is most probably breaking their code of conduct.

No wonder our media are treated with contempt

PM Gillards use of a taxpayer funded VIP get to attend a staffers wedding shows the big difference between Coalition and ALP supporters. If Howard had done that lefties would always be speaking about it. With Gillard it was in the news for a few days and then forgotten.

I doubt most ALP supporters even know and do not care that Gillard abused the taxpayer by attending that wedding

Police command said they followed standard procedures.

Denying people a legal representation is standard procedure?

Arresting people to question them over financial matters is standard procedure?

Dragging people out of bed at the crack of dawn for said questioning is standard procedure?

Tom R – Denying people a legal representation is standard procedure?

Well know criminal defence barrister Rob Starey said there was nothing unusual about having witnesses without legal representation. Apparently legal representation is required at the point where charges may be laid.

TB – Obviously you are comfortable with “police state” dictatorial tactics … I’m not …

If you see my comment above, you might like to clarify what you’re talking about – look here – https://theguttertrash.com/2018/07/03/conclusions/#comment-146420

Vic Police said they followed standard procedure, and I see that Starey has labelled it unorthodox or something like that.

If that’s as critical as their lawyer gets – i think all the outrage is confected, just a “look over there!!

(That isn’t “standard” in anybodies interpretation (except yours)

Sure it is; it’s the quintessence of ‘discretion(ary (mis)use of (police) powers)’; which is why it’s almost certainly a misnomer for a ‘follower’-qua-initiator to say it’s ‘standard procedure’, when (self-)characterising (mis)use-of-force dynamic(s); theoretically, and actually, there are lots of (in)formal studies of (differential) (mis)applications of ‘standard procedure(s)’, including (over- and under-)rigorous application(s) of ‘standard procedures’, and their consequents, including (sometimes, objectively and (inter-)subjectively, quite radical) diminution(s) of citizens’ (legal, civic, and personal) rights.)

Many regional areas have employment opportunities. Cities are already sufficiently expensive, congested and (in some areas) dysfunctional

Regions have cheaper housing and less congestion.

The rationale for immigration is to support economic growth, fine. But to focus this on increasingly congested, expensive and troubled cities seems misdirected.

I’d be surprised if that was limited to Ballarat, but there needs to be a base line for comparison, and ABS figures provide that.

Regional development is a policy supported by all political parties I think – so what’s the problem with having our immigration policy reducing city congestion and supporting regions?

what’s the problem with having our immigration policy reducing city congestion and supporting regions?

Well, for one thing, the internet sucks out there

If only there was a way to remedy that?

“Well, for one thing, the internet sucks out there

If only there was a way to remedy that?”

The regional areas get the NBN via fixed wireless or satellite. That is one area where Turnbull made NO changes. REgional Australia gets what the ALP thought up on that plane flight in 2009 with NO changes by the Coalition.

So aparently the standards of regional Australia are good enough for Australians but not good enough for people that voluntarily seek to live here.

Tom R

What was the point of your last post? REgional areas get the NBN via fixed wireless or satellite. That is something Turnbull made no changes

That is something Turnbull made no changes

Your information is incorrect. Moving people from FTTP onto Satellite doesn’t just mean they moss out on FTTP, it means the Satellite is now tring to service more people than it was designed for, hence the worst performance people are experiencing.

* development heartwood

seems our three-sector model is down a sector 😦

https://regionaldevelopment.org.au/remote-rural-australia-dudded-nbn/

I’m not sure too many regional Australians will agree that the standards of regional Australia are good enough for Australians

So you think Geelong, Albury, Newcastle, Cairns… aren’t acceptable places for immigrants because of the internet?

Fine, so are those places worse than Broadmeadows or Cabramatta?

But, for access to jobs and services, Broadmeadows or Cabramatta would be streaks ahead

The Coalition made NO changes to what was Labors plan for regional Australia.

You mean, except for removing FTTP from large swathes and pushing them onto a Satellite service that was designed for far fewer people?

That’s all on malcaymans head, as he was the one charged with destroying the NBN, which he has succeeded at very well.

Geelongs not really the outback is it.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/australia-regional-unemployment-2018-1

i don’t think migrants should go to the outback, but regional cities and towns like Geelong, Bendigo, Cairns, Bathurst, Toowoomba are entirely reasonable places to live and for the economic stimulus that the additional population would provide.

is there any rationale for supporting increasing city population through the migration program to put pressure on aging infrastructure, increasing house prices and increasing congestion?

TomR

What are you trying to say? The only change i know of that Turnbull changed is from FTTP to FTTN. He made no changes to what regional areas were going to get.

If NBNCo is shifting people from FTTN and fixed wireless to satellite- so what? Anyway regional areas get fixed wireless and/or satellite. I don’t think they even get FTTN

And another thing! I note that the investigation re Emma Husar have been described as “a witch-hunt”

It is outrageous that we continue to reinforce gender stereo types with archaic and sexist terms like “witch-hunt”

We should refer to this as a “Wicca practitioner hunt”

What? It’s an abuse of process to make a complaint about workplace behaviour? Heavens!

So it is a Wicca practitioner hunt?

What? It’s an abuse of process to make a complaint about workplace behaviour?

It’s an abuse of process to splash it across the front page of a paper

I am still not sure what you are saying

Read the reply two posts down from the statement you copied.

It’s the same one I referenced above 😉

She was dismissed.

Did she make a formal complaint? Did she instigate a process?

The Human Rights Commission has investigated the bullying culture of fire services, and written a report – the UFU launched legal action to suppress the report. So the public is not informed about the pervasive culture in this public institution.

Yes, the public as well ‘informed’, t’wern’t they

No wonder the UFU tried to suppress it, their fears were correct. The press would try and lay the blame on Firefighters, when it was the white collar upper echelon (the same ones who are trying to slander the UFU) who were found to be the bullies.

Jane Garrett was dismissed following her airing of a complaint.

Why didn’t she go through the proper channels, instead of complaining to the media?

Do you have a copy of the report?

Like nil, do some reading

View story at Medium.com

Why would ANY government reduce funding to CSIRO!

The same reason they’d shove people off FttP and onto a Satellite not designed to cope with that many users

They’re bloody idiots

“he same reason they’d shove people off FttP and onto a Satellite not designed to cope with that many users”

WEll that would not be true. They would be pushing them from FTTN to satellite. And even that may not be true. If i read your link correctly the people on fixed wireless not satellite are increasing from 4% of users to 5% of users. So what? The same thing may have happened if Labor was in power

They would be pushing them from FTTN to satellite.

Except under Labor it was FttP

I’m not proposing that we ask people to live in Crapperville.

Geelong, Newcastle, Albury etc are well supported for services.

nil you dimwit as all those links confirm the libs have at least doubled the load the satellite takes and a load they were not designed for. That is why the regions have such poor internet and it is the direct result of liberal policies

I didn’t get that from your links. What i have seen is that people will not be getting 100mbps speeds on the fixed wireless network for regional areas because of the cost

What “ i have seen is that people ” from youngteabag(org) or ipateabag(org) or very, very similar teabaglike(org) continue to turnip to spout physicsfree nonsense on behalf of the teabags obsolete wireCo system. What a surprise the market does not want to pay or use obsolete telegraph wires. What a surprise it is that ITbiz won’t relocate or invest in a country where their workforce cannot work from home, or serve their biz to the world from any location at global best practice. What a surprise it will be in a few short years to discover the AussieIT brain drain; as fresh trained ITnerds are based in Alberta, siliconValley and Auckland. Damn that kiwiFiber.

No matter how hard youngTeabag(org) members polish the teabags obsolete WireCo turd; it will always remain an obsolete system that gives all of wireCo`s competitors in the market a massive advantage. Suck it up princess!!

No African gangs in Melbourne. None at all. #Taylorstreetleftieidiots

(REgional Australia is getting fixed wireless and/or satellite

Correct. The fixed has been fixed, and the wireless has been fixed, and the fixed wireless has been fixed, and the relatively-low actual-uptake of the fixed fixed fixed wireless vis-a-vis (potential/claimed) ‘connections to the network’ has fixed the fixed fixed fixed wireless so well that Bill Morrow is blaming existing ‘(super)users’ for NBMTMNCo’s demonstrated fixed wireless successes, and, further, is spontaneously presenting a strong, very strong business case, for a nation-building utility, one which originally included fulfilling the purpose(s) of national and (inter-)regional network(s) (com)parity(ies), for no (outrageous) changes to no changes, other than the almost inconsiderable, outrage-ous no-changes already wrought. Then there’s the wholesale sell-off of scarce-but-somehow-spare Sky Muster bandwidth to fly-by-night operatives, like QANTAS, instead of meeting remote and regional demand on-the-ground, as envisaged and designed, and further diversion(s) of that now-underprovisioned Sky Muster bandwidth to urban and peri-urban users within what used to be the fixed fixed network footprint which NBMTMCo has just no-change(s)-bypassed, for no doubt also very good (ac)claimed-(pseudo-)connectivity and user-experience reasons.)

I have heard of problems with the fixed wireless network for regional areas

https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/nbn/nbn-chief-blames-online-gamers-for-fixed-wireless-congestion-offers-solution/news-story/24fa0c337b628e5d78fab22ade5a02b6

THE National Broadband Network is evaluating how to fix wireless congestion problems after discovering what it believes is the cause of the problem.

At a parliamentary hearing in Sydney on Monday, NBN chief executive Bill Morrow blamed those pesky online gamers for being the major cause of congestion on the network.

“While people are gaming it is a high bandwidth requirement that is a steady streaming process,” Mr Morrow told the committee, reports ABC.

“This is where you can do things, to where you can traffic shape — where you say, ‘no, no, no, we can only offer you service when you’re not impacting somebody else’.”

As part of a fix for the problem, Mr Morrow said the NBN would consider introducing a fair use policy similar to the one that already applies to satellite users that limits peak-hour data usage of individual customers to no more than 75 gigabytes in any four week period…….A spokesman for Communications Minister Mitch Fifield put the onus back on Labor.

“If we had stuck to Labor’s planned fixed wireless and satellite coverage, at least 200,000 homes and farms would have found themselves without any service at all,” the spokesman said.

“NBN is taking steps to upgrade and augment the group of towers experiencing congestion, and is prudently planning to manage future demand so that fixed wireless users can make the most of the available network capacity.”

TomR

I guess there were some changes. Fixed wireless was planned to give speeds of 100mbps for regional areas. Upon reflection they find it would cost billions and billions and billions of dollars for perhaps 600,000 people so that policy was canned.

Turnbull has made no major changes for the rollout of the NBN to rural areas. Fixed wireless giving speeds of 100mbps was found to be ultraexpensive. So that policy was canned. You obviously are too stupid to understand that.

And Labors fixed line FTTP rollout would never be finished and bankrupt the country

“AGL $1.6 BILLION PROFIT … can you see a link here between higher electricity prices?

Yes i can. Renewable energy with govt subsidies is very profitable

But like TomR you are too stupid to see that

Stupid? Of course you are. AGL just loves govt subsidies for renewable energy.

Stupid? Maybe? Traitors to Australia is more correct.

(….or am I missing something ?

Tim Flannery blathering on about the statistical probability of longer. more-intense, and more-widespread droughts over the medium-term? Malcolm tossing accounting-units around like externality-chaff? A no-not-really tethered to some sort of a really-real-reality?)

Intergalactically speaking, (on)grid subsidized, politicized, privatized energy generation scheme/s tend to get more expensive as more and more (in)vested interests gain more and more influence and control of those generation scheme/s; until of course the personal and business (end)user makes purchase of their own (off)grid (base)load (re)newable and storage (off)grid (base)load system of their own. The (off)grid (end)users will never be asking the (on)grid subsidized, politicized, privatized electricity influencer’s “What planet are you from?” as it is obvious it is the planet of the primates and telegraph wires. Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! The (off)grid (end)users will really only opine to where the influencer’s will end up storing their stranded assets!

bloody free loaders! (literally)

There is no doubt that Australian taxpayers have spent tens of billions of dollars building the railway lines, coal loaders and other infrastructure for the coal industry.

https://www.afr.com/opinion/columnists/adani-and-the-end-of-subsidy-denial-20170529-gwfbrq

Privatising essential services is stupid?. TomR why be so deceitful? SA has high electricity prices because they do not want coal. In fact Playford was blown up costing the jobs of hundreds of people at Playford and the Leigh Creek coal mine supplying the coal

SA Labor then found themselves in trouble so they leased diesel generators for $100M and announced the construction of a gas fired power plant.

What has privatisation got to do with that?

No. SA Labor chased out coal. Deceitful must be your middle name. Then Labor found themselves in trouble so leased diesel generators for $100M as a backup. That cost is added to everyones power bills.

What has privatisation got to do with labor not wanting to use coal?

Garbage. Subsidies make renewables cheaper. Why do you think AGL tripled its profit?

How were coal fired power stations subsidised?

“”……….railways are built by taxpayers exclusively for coal companies”

And the taxpayers are repaid via royalties.

NOTE FROM TB’s SCHOOL TEACHER
TB tends to day dream alot of fictitious robber barons. He really needs to try harder

You can blubber all you want. lt won`t stop the rest of us enjoying watching the teabags (both inHouse and in clowntown) tying themselves into pretzels trying to explain away the continual growing list of teabag gluttony and stupidity based failures. You still haven`t worked out we are most likely in, or on the edge of stagflation, and it will only take a couple of percent interest rise to set the homeloan and credit card system into panic. l just wonder how much more that would scale back shareholder equity in the AMP and the big4.

“Nice to see after all these years you finally accept the fact of subsidies for coal”

But do the coal fired power stations get subsidies? I would think the major costs would be salaries and wages followed by building the power station and maintenance. I would think coal is a minor cost.

What? Do coal fired power stations get subsidies like wind and solar get?

“n the same way that taxpayers will be repaid by cheaper power prices, which only renewables can provide…..”

You must be profoundly stupid if you actually believe that.

And by the way don’t verbal me about you fiction on coal subsidies. Ever heard about haulage. Ok

Ignorant greenies like you have no idea

(Oh, the monkeys-in-business-suits seem to have a somewhat piquedawareness of a (macro/micro)grid(s)-of-(micro/macro)grid(s)-future (un)like the past, or a present-ed business-as-(un)usual scenario, perhaps. Still, ‘Cheered till the end by fools’ v. ‘Ignorant greenies like you have no idea’: whose barrow-load to buy/bye?)

verbal me “ about you fiction on coal “ and utility(s) professed as ‘markets’
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_electricity_crisis

Ignorant coalies “ like you have no idea ” how fraudulent markets piss away treasury wealth even when ‘working-examples’ already exist.

Have we “ Ever heard about haulage. ” Yes ‘we’ have. The national cost per year for all quantities of wind haulage is $zero and sunray haulage is $zero and will remain so for the foreseeable future, way beyond the life of the current boardroom.

“The national cost per year for all quantities of wind haulage is $zero and sunray haulage is $zero”

But are far as i know coal fired power stations do not get any subsidies unlike wind and solar. That is why AGL wants to get out of coal. Just follow the money

AGL knows where the money is. Subsidised renewable energy which unsubsidised coal fired power stations cannot compete with

What has that to do with coal fired power stations? The major cost of any business is salaries and wages, maintenance etc. Building the coal fired power station would also be expensive. If they get slightly cheaper coal because the coal mine gets subsidies so what?

TomR

What R U raving on about? Whatever subsidies coal mines may get the govt gets more back in royalties and other taxes otherwise they would not give the subsidies in the first place.

But what subsidies does a coal fired power station get? In contrast renewables get hundreds of millions in subsidies

Even if true so what? Coal is our second biggest export generating billions of dollars in export income and the govt would get back more than they put in from royalties and taxes.

The coal fired power station may get slightly cheaper coal because of the subsidies but for any business by far the major cost is salaries and wages followed by maintenance and building costs

Car industry left because nobody wanted to buy aussie made cars.

But NSW got $1.6B in royalties last year from coal mining and Australia wide it was $5B. Coal mining companies also paid income tax, company tax on profits, payroll tax etc etc etc. And i don’t think coal fired power stations got a cent from the govt

Solar and wind infrastructure has to be imported since we don’t make it here and would not survive without subsidies

Hey TC, l think your ‘reneweconomy’ link is bullshitting on the ‘new-house’ connected to gas. lt only applies to them if GAS appliance/s is stipulated in the build (like-jonestown). There is no way consumers (or-developers) want to give work and pay to gasfitters (or any other tradie) if they don’t have to. (note, all ‘Lots’ do have a connection point a couple of feet inside the consumers fenceline when the mains goes thru, but there is no Billing involved.) The reneweconomy site is being dishonest ‘implying’ that consumers with a NO-Gas home will be paying gas bills.

Be a big boy. You tell us.

I did like this from yomms link to poor widdle barny

took aim at the Labor figures believed to have leaked details of the investigation

So, in article where he (well, actually, his (current) missus) laments the crucifixion by media of Emma Husar, he openly blames people who are ‘believed’ to have done something.

The hypocrisy/idiocy is just amazing

Melbourne is no longer the world’s most liveable city!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-14/melbourne-loses-most-liveable-city-title-to-vienna/10117338

I see the CFMEU has been fined another half mill for their disregard for the law. Fines like that are just the cost of doing business. Apparently.

and “ it IS a pattern, this is not in isolation ” as some viewer/s seem to be less and less satisfied with their Legacy outlets and what they keep “ hidden from us ” and what gets rapidly put on viewer/s screens. Who says viewers need facebook to receive FakeNews??

Lol nils

Cos noone talks to me I’m right

“……………..so we have to pay a higher cost for power to save the planet””

Yep every single Nation that has embraced renewablse has suffered from increased power prices and now they are building new coal fired power stations burning Australian coal.

So all of those Nations are wrong and the Australian Left is right.

ROFLMAO

Nothing at all “fixed”

Australian “News Channel is embarking on a 50/50 joint venture with the Nine Network to create a 24-hour channel dedicated to business and personal finance news. The new platform, titled ‘Your Money’ will be broadcast on a Nine free-to-air channel and Foxtel, in addition to distributing content across various digital platforms. Australian News Channel is the parent company of Sky News and Sky News Business, and is wholly owned by News Corp Australia. Australian News Channel is embarking on a 50/50 joint venture with the Nine Network to create a 24-hour channel dedicated to business and personal finance news. The new platform, titled ‘Your Money’ will be broadcast on a Nine free-to-air channel and Foxtel, in addition to distributing content across various digital platforms. Australian News Channel is the parent company of Sky News and Sky News Business, and is wholly owned by News Corp Australia. ”

@seems like just another pointless channel l will have to ‘skip’, just like those stupid ‘shopping’ channel/s.

Did you actually bother to read the article TB? THe CFMUE (allegedly) “encouraged” several companies to act as a cartel.

Yep, Katter’s band of racist nutcases are supported by the ETU and CFMEU.

Those unions really show outstanding political judgement , and ethics!

lols, the CFMMEU is getting dragged through the courts, AGAIN, on trumped up bullshit, yet they must make a stand IMMEDIATELY against some racist dickhead. On the say so of another racist dickhead no less.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/almost-certifiable-bob-katter-pays-political-price-for-backing-fraser-anning-s-final-solution-speech-20180816-p4zxun.html

Here’s a thought ensch, concentrate more on your own dog whistling brethren, and leave the CFMMEU spend Union membership money defending itself against your own Nazi inspired laws

Oh, the are creating the second largest from what USED to be the LARGEST

Is it just me, or does this grubmint have a LOT in common with Nazis? First, the demononisation and outlawing of Unions, and then, the double speaking propaganda that Goebbels would have been proud of

Up until now, Katter has been seen as just you’re average Queensland nutter.

Yet ensch, who’s party for years has relied on his vote, is now demanding the CFMMEU drop everything (that’s probably more the reason) and make a statement

Have the libs made a statement about not accepting their votes yet?

So, no cares about the libs accepting his vote, or their preferences?

No, they cough up money to get better workplace conditions.

Which only Unions can provide. And the CFMMEU and ETU are the best at providing that.

So, any news on an actual political party making a statement about THEIR position yomm, or is it only Unions who must be at the beck and call of racist nazi politicians?

No, they cough up money to get better workplace conditions.

That’s probably what the union members think too, but some of the union income goes to racist nutcases.

I see the CFMEU is encouraging support for the NEG. ETU & AWU are against it.

TomR

Your twitter posts about the marine park network is a good example of the deceit of the ALP.

John Howard created our marine park network and there have been no new marine parks created since 2007. In 2012 labor proposed to triple the size of Howards marine parks, drafted some legislation but never put it to Parliament for a vote. So they don’t exist.

But use your brains.Do you really think parliament would be voting to reduce the size of the marine parks if they were legislated in 2012? It would never get through Parliament.

“We were promised that privatisation would lead to lower prices, that simply hasn’t happened, every household can tell you that,”

Just some more LIES by the most deceitful of all people, Daniel Andrews. Victoria Labor tripled the royalties on brown coal making coal generated electricity more expensive so Hazlewood up and left

Apparently Bill Shorten has Questions to answer over spuds maneuvering within the liberal party

#youknowitmakessense

faark nil

“The policy includes a commitment to reinstate Australia’s national network of marine parks, established by Labor in 2012 and suspended by the Abbott Government.“

yea, and the papers are lying about Labor establishing them and abbott suspending them too

you idiot

Tony BURKE is LYING

Please, pinpoint the lie for us?

Ever wondered about Govt spin? This is how the Australian Gov announced it had secured the largest removal of area under conservation in world history. Half of what parliament had agreed in 2012 as highly protected sanctuaries, now open to industrial fishing.\

Pinpoint the lie?

I don’t see where he ever said it was legislated

It didn’t need to be legislated for them to be in operation

In 2012, the then-Gillard government expanded the network of marine reserves but they were suspended from operation under then-prime minister Tony Abbott, who ordered an independent review.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-17/australian-marine-parks-criticism-of-new-conservation-plan/8944594

How the hell can Abbott suspend anything if they were legislated by Parliament?

Ask all those media reports to explain it for you.

TomR

The media is wrong. The fact that Abbott suspended the legislation means it was never presented to Parliament. It was just hanging around like a bad smell. I heard that the area to be legislated was too big and simple things would be impossible like a father teaching his son how to fish so Labor never presented the legislation to Parliament

If parliament proposes the Pacific Ocean be a sanctuary does it mean anything?

Now we are getting somewhere. Abbott can not suspend legislation if it was passed by Parliament. Abbott suspended the legislation because it was never presented to Parliament

trying

very trying

“trying
very trying”

Are you referring to me?

I’m quite tired of factionalism in politics. I’d prefer just to have the major parties split, and then figure out which smaller one most closely reflected my values.

If Dutton were to lead the Libs, or Abbott, I think they’d come last on my ballot paper

“It was passed using the same legal instruments that the government has used this time. ”

OK what the hell does that mean? Dot mentioned it is possible for Cabinet to make an executive decision without Parliament voting. Is that what Burke is talking about?

Burke said this