Why was Michelle Guthrie Sacked from the ABC?

libs are about to get kicked out
their toady was halfway through her term

yea, it’s a mystery 😉

“What is interesting is that the board has been stacked with IPA stooges”

I am not really up on this. Do you have a link? I remember people saying the same thing about the Howard govt -that he stacked the board. I eventually found out the truth. Instead of being stacked with lefties Howard managed to get one or 2 conservative people onto the ALP stacked ABC board

Just another dud. I reckon the short odd bet is my abc boardroom is trying to save themselves by dumping the guthrieDud, anointed by the talkbullDud, before next fedVote results in a cleansweep of teabagStooges from my abc boardroom.

So “ VIC has 26 people to cover each km2 of poles and wires where as QLD has 2 to cover each km2 of poles and wires. So VIC cost should be 13 times cheaper than QLD. ” @Tick

The @same applies to; sewer, drainage, gas, and freshWater pipes, telecom wires, electric wires, sealed roads and railway lines. (and probably more stuff)

The inHouse dumbfcuk regularly quotes; “ 15,800 .. 12,800 per premises ” and ignores ALL OTHER info, implying it is a ‘paid to dribble’ troll run out of an ipa/teabag ‘sabotage the fiber’ unit.

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You would have to be a ‘wilfull’ troll to swallow the numbers and continually regurgitate them. Why? Because they are an ‘average’ or ‘median’ number; which includes running fiber thousands of KMs across the nullabor, and hundreds of KMs between populated areas. All without a single user connected.

All the inHouse dumbfcuk proves is its own stupidity. lt is clearly satisfied with the sheer waste its team has created by sabotaging the fiber and; entrenching the failure of wireCo to its competitors.

Bagzy had a little network,

its echo chamber black as charcoal.

And every time that rupert passed,

he`d boot it up the arse hole!

So, murdoch gets a pm sacked, and the pm gets the ABC head sacked

Welcome to #auspol 😦

“We are tarred with her brush. I think it’s simple. Get rid of her. We need to save the ABC – not Emma. There is no guarantee they [the Coalition] will lose the next election.”

https://www.afr.com/business/media-and-marketing/abc-chairman-justine-milne-wanted-emma-alberici-fired-report-20180925-h15v8h

https://twitter.com/NickRossTech was just the first one to succumb, as he said at the time.

The political interference in the public broadcaster is just out of control, and nothing is being done about it.

Labor need a big broom when they get in.

“”Emma and my abc techNerd are just a couple of many, that have been personally attacked for doing their job PROPERLY””

Utter Bullshit

Emma does not know the fundamentals of tax law and that was illustrated in her article. That’s why the ABC had to correct her crap article.

Carry forward tax losses would be a good start

So why was it corrected

Oh maybe because it was completely misleading……………

“But it’s hard to see how a lower tax rate is an incentive for investment when one in five of our biggest companies haven’t paid any corporate tax at all in at least three years.”

Of course she “””forgot” to point out that was due to carry forward tax losses prefering to allow the reader to use their imagination of evil tax accountants and lawyers dreaming up schemes to avoid tax.

So why was it corrected

Have you not been watching the headlines the past few days?

#theirabc is truly THEIR abc

it is corrupted almost beyond repair

it is the political whipping boy of the conservatives, and does it’s bidding

“””That doesn’t show ignorance, it clearly shows the outcome of of our bullshit laws.”

They are not “bullshit laws””.

You pay tax on your profit not on your revenue.

You can have a problem with how the tax is calculated but it’s complete ignorance to get revenue and profit mixed up

Carry ” forward tax losses would be a good start ” @strike.one

she ” forgot to point out that was due to carry forward tax losses ” @strike.two!

alberici ” 2) I acknowledged repeatedly that Qantas forward carried losses to offset against profits ” @see.tweet

So ” explain HER mistakes ” @Tick

YES @numbNuts l DID keep a copy of her ORIGINAL post and will return later to club you with your own factless stupidy @bye.bye @back.under.rock

Teabag you are too difficult to decipher due to your stupid style so I will not reply to your posts

are “ too difficult to decipher ” @ROFL

That`s ok blubbers, l fully understand you. For some around here, anything more than slogan-in, slogan-out to form their opinion is way `too-difficult` to deal with. We definitely wouldn`t want to stray into thinking-for-self territory. We could find ourselves getting quite huffy if we did so.

So you want to tax gross income is that correct.

They do it with me.

Which really is what that article was highlighting

if ” I only paid tax on profit, I wouldn`t pay bugger all either .. After my bills, there isn`t really much `profit` left. ” @same.here @sometimes its a negative number

you ” CAN highlight how much revenue a company is churning, and how much tax they are paying ” @Tick

It ” doesn`t show ignorance of the system, it highlights the inequities in it ” @Tick

Yes @both emma`s post and the ato stats that triggered it WERE highlighting the inequalities and unfairness between the average citizen and corporates treatment by the ato. (now watch dopey say but its legal)

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So ” you want to tax gross income is that correct ”

TeamCheerer didn`t say that. You are being dishonest. TC is pointing out that corporations get to pay all kinds of ‘bills’ before (if) taxable profit is declared. Yet minimal earners pay tax first, before they pay ANY ‘bills’ and can NOT avoid most (all) other taxes. You claim to be an accountant and yet you need me to correct you on this?

A factory worker cannot deduct his airconditioning power costs that ensure he gets proper sleep to return to work safely the following day. Yet the factory and office space aircon is deductable.

The factory worker also has an old car used solely for driving to the factory and return home only, this car/fuel/rego/insur was not deductable years ago, Has it changed? (the wife has the good car) Yet the factory and office vehicles and fuel/rego/insur are all deducable. Yes legal and not the point. Just UNFAIR which is the point of the ato stats and emma`s post, which you seem to have zero concept of. And yes, l know you did not read emma`s original post.

None at all

Nope, none at all.

Unlike the multi $billion companies, I don’t have an extensive swathe of tax loopholes with which to hide my ‘profits’ away in

business expenses in producing income

So, all of these companies spend all the money they make, including ‘profits’, on running their business? Even you can’t believe that

Which is what Alberici’s accurate article highlighted.

Which is why #theirabc came up with their bullshit ‘nine errors’

“@barriecassidy nails it about how Murdoch’s hatred of the ABC emboldened the government to go after the ABC itself”

So, all of these companies spend all the money they make, including ‘profits’, on running their business? Even you can’t believe that

Why don’t you show us how it is done. Use your spare bedroom to make something. Don’t know what, say clocks. Buy the raw materials, make the clocks, deduct all your expenses and see if you make a profit.

People can do what companies do. You can run a business from your home, deduct the expenses, sell what you make and maybe you may make a profit. But maybe not

“I “ don`t have an extensive swathe of tax loopholes ”

Bit unfair. But if you got off your butt, made something like say clocks in your home you could deduct all the expenses for making the clocks. Would you make a profit? I doubt it. It is a tough job to run a business and make a profit

My point was why don’t you get off your butt and make something rather than winging and complaining all the time

How about making a contribution rather than taking all the time

How did it ever get to this?

Exclusive: Documents reveal almost all the directors of the ABC’s eight-member board appointed by communications minister

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/sep/27/abc-board-members-appointed-by-fifield-despite-being-rejected-by-merit-based-panel?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Hell yes. Shove that one where yor bike seat don’t fit.

“The people of Borroloola people are expressing what a lot of First Nations people are feeling across Australia, that this is a waste of their time,” McCarthy said.

“They don’t want Tony Abbott as their voice, they have their own voice and they are prepared to use it.”

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/27/tony-abbott-condemned-by-indigenous-parliamentarians-after-nt-visit

Why would he write an email like that!?

THAT’S yor take out of all this?

Not “How can almost the entire board become so compromised!!” ??

At least they had a process (that is, they didn’t keep them there indefinitely) and they didn’t treat them inhumanely

So are you ok with a public broadcaster beiong subverted like this and made into a government mouthpiece?

The ABC is so full of partisan types there’s no danger of it becoming a mouthpiece, unless the Greens happen to form government

Keep “ yor head well and truly planted yomm ”

lt has been inserted deep for 4-years now, not that l`m counting. The ‘teabag-partisan’ my abc has diligently regurgitated two prime meddlers unchallenged that imbecile boardrooms flying over war-bird graveyards is tewwa. @mh17

I think Fran Kelly has toned it down a little over the last few months.

Yes, she isn’t cheering the libs as much since malcayman went is she

Jon Faine is a pretty straight shiite
Do you have evidence of partisanship, or is it just he calls the bullshit?

Faine isn’t soft on anyone

yor on drugs yomm

I don’t mind if the ABC has opinionated people broadcasting, but it needs to reflect the various political opinions.

This is where it fails

I guess we won`t be seeing the tax agent for a while TC. The royal-comm preliminary findings are agreeing with you and me, not him and his support for boardroom level entrenched crime and corruption. The toothless tiger so called ‘regulators’ are getting a good spanking too.

“…..not him and his support for boardroom level entrenched crime and corruption”

Got a link for that dickhead ?

I would if it was at all intelligent.. Teabagz is like lava lamps…fun to look at but not very bright.

If you don’t know what you are talking about don’t put it in writing

Or he gets his entertainment by hanging s**t on people with a disability, Faine is an opioniated arsehole –

https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/abc-s-jon-faine-criticised-over-deeply-uncomfortable-interview-20180329-p4z6u3.html

I don’t care about the political orientation of commercial stations TB, but I am required to support the ABC, without any option of not supporting them.

I have the option of not listening to or reading other news programs.

But what do you think about a taxpayer funded broadcaster making a racist point about NBN contractors and teasing someone with a disability?

ToM

The ABC is able to investigate the private sector without the threat of advertising revenue being removed. What TV station would investigate Aged Care, Greyhound Racing, Franchises, Banks, Insurance Companies etc etc. They can do so because they are not reliant on advertising revenue. The rest of the channels are gutless and use smoke and mirrors to cloud any reporting because they would lose the revenue from that organisation.

The other stations only report the after facts once the ABC has done the investigation, prepared a programme and reported on the theft and utter disgraceful actions of CEOs in so many companies.

The ABC is now needed more than ever when a media mogul is happy to lose hundreds of millions of dollars to maintain a media presence for the sole objective of influencing political outcome for his advantage.

Very sad if you fail to see the reason we have a public broadcaster of the calibre of the ABC.

Look at the links I provided TB – that’s just in the past 6 months – they’ve had to apologies for the behaviour of Faine.

Faine behaves in the same argumentative and provocative manner with anyone he feels like. If he can’t badger people he disagrees with – he becomes snide and tried to irritate them.

Taxpayers should not fund broadcasters like that.

And I’m not sure what point TB & Shane are trying to make about my comments – I’ve already said I appreciate people like Raphael Epstein on the ABC – he is an inquisitive journalist who doesn’t try to impose his opinions or personality. If all ABC broadcasters and TV hosts followed his approach – there would be no political criticism.

And they would be providing an outstanding public service.

Well TB, Hadley & Jones aren’t broadcast here, but you use them as examples of broadcasting to be avoided. They don’t rate here because Melbourne doesn’t have the mass bogan demographic of Brisbane and Sydney.

But Faine’s huge salary is entirely paid by taxpayers- taxpayers deserve impartiality and inquiry, not loudmouths that insult the disabled, and use needling tactics and racism when the interview/opinion piece isn’t going their way.

And do we still need a mechanism to take the heat out of the housing market, when it is in steep decline ?

Housing is in decline and most think banking reform will tighten lending, which will also reduce demand.

Is the ALP still intent on getting rud of negative gearing ?

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-01/melbourne-and-sydney-continue-to-lead-house-price-decline/10324270

Shane – the ALP policy will provide a positive incentive to bulldoze heritage houses and completely change the character of many older suburbs.

It is a disaster for maintaining a sense of traditional suburbs – as if developers need more encouragement to bulldoze traditional housing.

I don’t know. But I always thought the Communications Minister appointed the board. Hence the accusation that Howard stacked the board by appointing 2 conservative people

Yes Shane – the fact is that the government partially funds this radio station which broadcasts all sorts of extreme views.

I don’t particularly care, but the fact is – those views are constantly available in Melbourne – and very few people are interested in listening.

and ” I have never had children.@ditto There are cross subsidisations everywhere, that is what a ” @nation or state or community is.

Oh shane will you ever not learn. Our job as Limitednews farmed trolls is to sit at the feet of bolt and recite his kum-bah-yah and guzzle tea in front of the ipa wishlist. We work so hard to find micro details in the world to get hysteric over while remaining willfully blind to mega problems that hit you so hard in the face they could break your nose. Do you know how hard it is to ignore the tens of billions wasted on offshore gulags; tens of billions wasted on building obsolete wireCo systems; tens of billions wasted on F35 flying junk canadia won`t touch; while over stimulating ourselves over their abc and fish nibble?

Horseshitforbrains is just lucky l don`t get to choose the boardroom, if it were up to me l`d fill it with fcukers so far left it would make da-greenz look like nazis and ‘really’ give you something to cack youself/s over.

Very sad if you fail to see the reason we have a public broadcaster of the calibre of the ABC.

example A through Z

Kerry O’Brien???? Wasn’t he the guy who shouted out when the Coalition was going to win an election— WE HAVE LOST THE ELECTION!!!!!!!!!!!

Whether he said it or not

Considering the sauce … 😉

nils making shit up …. again.

to get one or two conservatives

5 of the 8 dopey

btw, Where’s ya link?

5 out of 8 are conservative supporters? How do you know? BTW the person who replaced Guthrie seems to be an ultra-left fundamentalist and she was appointed by the govt

There are parts of the ABC that are ok, and I’ve indicated a couple of areas that I’m fine with, but there are plenty of areas that deserve criticism

And it’s no use saying – “but look at New/Murdoch” – because I’m REQUIRED to fund the ABC

Why is it that ALP people cannot tell the truth? This from form PM Rudd

https://www.smh.com.au/national/culture-of-fear-murdoch-the-abc-and-how-to-fix-a-media-in-crisis-20181001-p5073f.html

Rupert Murdoch has been up to his neck in the elevation and removal of Australia prime ministers for the better part of a decade.

So Rupert organised getting you replaced by Gillard hey Kevin? The man is deluded

The ABC has seen the conservatives politicise its board, demolish its funding and pressure its management to get rid of troublesome journalists.

POliticise the board? No Kevin the Coalition has managed to get some conservatives onto a ALP stacked board. Slashed funding?? Are you serious? It gets $1B/year of taxpayers money

Then there’s Murdoch. Owning nearly 70 per cent of Australian print, in addition to Sky,

No Kevin. 70% of the people who buy newspapers purchase Murdoch.

Truth and fairness are words the ALP and its supporters do not practise

because ” I`m REQUIRED to fund the ABC ”

No you`re not .. ” go and live somewhere else ”

Absolutely correct Teebz. Our Limitednews trolls and useful idiots could always grow the nads to move to yankeeland where their trollpractice of fact ignoring soars and pay their tax there. Then they could enjoy seeing 60% of ‘their’ tax being swallowed by the ‘industrial military complex’, plus a bit more for nasa which is the backdoor to the industrial military complex. Nah. Much better for boltforbrains to dwell on 50-cents a week hysteric and idiotic taxpayer funding.

why was (News Corp) Murdoch given $30,000,000 by the LNP government

Don’t know. Apparently it was to cover womens sport. But I will play devils advocate. Why shouldn’t a private company get some govt money? The ABC gets $1,000M/year. The $30M was over 4 years. Furthermore the govt would get a lot more from Murdoch from tax on employees income plus tax on profits the company makes plus more from the economic activity from his companies. Does Newscorp profit go to the USA. I doubt it.

Your attitude would just drive more companies off-shore reducing employment and tax for the govt

TB

Your beliefs do not work because you do not take into account the greed in all humans

Now ” why do you think Bill`s story should affect me? ”

As an easily frightened primate he knows most primates are frightened of death, fish nibble and death by fish nibble. He also knows bolts most reliable of friends strongly recommend skyfairy to ease their fears. Now that atheist bill is in decline health wise and decided to seek the protection of skyfairy; bolts reliable friends have been proven right again, and you should believe them more often.

Getting baptised as an adult means voluntarily joining an “organised religion”

That’s what Bill Hayden has chosen to do – and he’s made that decision with the support of a nun! one of the main supporters of organised religion!

The point is TB, you go out of your way to negatively characterise people with a genuine belief – I’m not religious but I think people with a genuine belief should be respected.

Apologists for child molesters don’t deserve this respect, but you don’t appear to differentiate between them and others

People that get comfort from a sense of spirituality should be respected, not ridiculed

Why? Why not?
Religions ridicule and denigrate non-believers every day.

An eye for an eye

Fully agree that history is full of royalist devotionals that looted and died for their emporor and empire teebz. Much less convinced on the fascist and commie part tho. l didn`t specify any particular flavor of fascist or commie simply because there would be so much variation. l would expect both fascists and commies in spain and italy were devotional to their fascist or commie `cause`, yet both contain closet catlicks and closet atheists. Did all of uncle adolfs devotionals really swallow uncle adolfs airean, super viking bloodline, cartload of crap mythology? Especially the ones visiting the stalingrad pocket? Was uncle ho`s and uncle fidels fighters really commie devotionals? Or freedom from colonial powers devotionals? There is a hell of a lot of crossover and overlap trying lump all fascist or all commie groups as a one generic group.

Just as Bolt ridicules Muslims for the actions of a few extremist, reb and TB ridicule other people with religious convictions.

I doubt you approve of Bolt’s ridicule, so perhaps you might both explain how your version is different

(and TB, I’m not at all religious)

bigotry

If a person is intolerant of other ideas, races, or religions, we call that person a bigot. The intolerance expressed by that bigot is called bigotry. Bigotry is ugly.

More evidence of the mentally ill running organised religion

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=church+condemns+detention+of+asylum+seekers&oq=church+condemns+detention+of+asylum+seekers&aqs=chrome..69i57.20797j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Angela Merkel is another that is clearly insane – the leader of Germany’s Christian Democrats acted completely contrary to her political interests by giving asylum seekers a place to live.

Clearly she is another who needs “psychological help” – I know I can’t tell the difference between that type of decency by a Christian Democrat and someone with a mental illness.

How should We ” distinguish between the mentally ill and those who hold religious convictions?? ”

That is easy. The mentally ill were evicted and had their institution sold from underneath them by teabags, resulting in many becoming homeless or part of the prison system. Those that believe in skyfairy still have their taxbreaks and club house. However, if we were to take a number of primates from both groups and scatter them randomly about the park; we would struggle to identify which group each individual was from.

And what did Mother Teresa and Desmond Tutu ever do for anyone other than support religion?

Nutcases!

Just for a quick reference, in case we need a list of religious nutcases, because THEY ALL ARE NUTCASES!!

There is just no way to tell the difference between people with a sincere belief, and those with a mental illness.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_left

Fine TB, and when you said – rganised religions have done more damage in the world than any other organisations I can think of …
If you “belong” you own the responsibility … and the blame.

…you mean that all Muslims need to “own the responsibility and the blame” of the actions of Muslim extremists

And what did Mother Teresa and Desmond Tutu ever do for anyone other than support religion?

I don’t think that it is because they were religious that they have the standing they do, it was because of the acts they performed, which are quite able to be performed with or without religion. It’s true religion may have helped them do this, but it is just as likely that they would have performed these acts without religion

Same as everything, there is good and bad in all.

Except of course for one religion, which flies high above all others!

https://www.venganza.org

No TB, you suggested catlicks belonged and therefore had to accept blame and responsibly for the actions of a minority.

Does that equally apply to all religions?

Yeah nothing to see here…………………..

“A RAMPAGING mob of 100 youths have ripped open train doors and screamed abuse at passengers in Melbourne overnight. ”

“She added the majority of the group were understood to be of African appearance”

https://www.news.com.au/news/national/mob-of-around-100-youths-cause-chaos-in-melbournes-southeast/news-story/a4ae99f87e19c100e9c18820ad6f04c3

Yes, we bring people in from a war torn, lawless region, we provide little in the way of social and family support, few employment opportunities, and then wonder why there is some anti social behavior

I don’t think you can blame the media for reporting masses of youths rampaging around the suburbs.

fer yomm

https://junkee.com/christopher-pyne-african-gangs/168113

if there were groups of unruly youths hanging the restaurants I go to

Like maccas?

Should be upper case IF

Don`t be too hard on them teamcheerer. l always find much humor in dick and nancy using the convicted Limitednews racist and freshly convicted 2gb lying troll as their models of excellence and suppositories of wisdom. Can we give them a bigger shovel.

That’s true yomm

I’m afraid to go to the beach because of assholes with surfboards

I’ve seen Point Break, I know what they’re like.

It seems to cover a number of points and, as you would expect from Michael Kirby, the points are well made

I see unions want to get rid of enterprise bargaining and replace it with industry bargaining or arbitration if bargaining doesn’t give them what they want.

Great!

Yes TB. I know how awards work, but Sally McMannus doesn’t seem to.

There is no bargaining because employers simply won’t bargain.

And that’s because of a range of factors. Which is talked through here

https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2018/09/14/647979229/episode-864-the-central-bankers-question

Although they don’t mention globalization and IT advances, which imo is as important a factor as monopolies and Union decline

to ” cover a number of points and, as you would expect from Michael Kirby, the points are well made ”

Kirby was on my abc with stan grant last night discussing skyfairy. Viewers can go watch it if they want to see what kirby said, in context and without the distortion youKnowWho is trying to create. One of kirby`s points was Freedom From Skyfairy.

Strikes occur regularly – there is a process to follow that’s all.

Which part of the process do you (TB & Tom R) object to?

Were you aware that Stopping work in support of, or in protest against, laws that directly impact on workers’ rights or living standards is completely unlawful?

Which is against international conventions.

the action is protracted and is causing, or is going to cause, significant economic harm to the employer or employees who will be covered by the agreement.

THAT’S THE FUCKING POINT OF A STRIKE YOU TOOLS

(of course, they understand that, which is why it is there)

1. I think unions use the economic harm provision to get arbitration when their industrial action is failing
2. The minister can make an application (an application isn’t an order) – but the FWC has to determine the matter and issue the order if they decide there is evidence of significant economic harm
3. How many such orders have been made since that provision has been included?

I think unions use the economic harm provision to get arbitration when their industrial action is failing

Yea, right

ya think do ya lol

How many such orders have been made since that provision has been included?

ask the fucken abc fwc (yea, we knows how this works)

the difference between “unprotected ” and “unlawful” industrial action.

in this cuntry, there is little difference

#ChangeTheRulez

Our corporate fluffer from teabagistan has never been on strike; but has never done a days hard yakka either; that is why he cannot and does not value anybody or their work; outside the corporate fluffing industry. While he fluffers-on about the minor issues;

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l noticed that jonetown is being extorted on their 20kms of lightrail costing about 20-bill now, extorted by the offshore corporates; not da-onion/s. Now does anybody really believe any onion will cause anywhere near the financial wreckage the teabagGovts create with their outsauced corporate benefactors.

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ln other wreckage; the west-coast property has slumped and not recovered. While east-coast property has started to slide. Are we learning yet.

I’m surprised you both aren’t a little more familiar with history.
Prior to the early 90s there was no right to strike. All strikes were illegal and unprotected, but they were tolerated by employers because the process involved in obtaining and enforcing orders of the Commission was particularly onerous.

If orders were issued the employer was required to enforce them – this required seeking penalties for the breach. Employers were loath to seek specific penalties against union officials (Clarrie O’Shea is the case study)

Orders were very rarely sought, and no one really enforced them.

In the early 90s the right to strike was legislated as part of enterprise bargaining – so unions obtained a right they’d never had before, but with the right came some responsibilities – such as observing process and pursuing claims only about the employment relationship.

Patronising TB? That’s a bit severe!

Nonetheless, lots of union types suggest that unions have lost rights – but they don’t seem to understand that there was never a right to strike until enterprise bargaining. And the protected industrial action has to be about employment matters between the employer and the employees.

Alan Jones? He’s a complete unknown in Victoria. He’s only loved in Sydney and Brisbane

Cockroach? Alan jones was born in Queensland. I doubt if Jones is loved but a lot of people do respect him. He was a very successful Australian Rugby Union coach. How many people have coached an Australian team in anything?

Alan Jones tried to get a foothold in Melbourne. But people here are cultured and don’t take to racist, loudmouthed, obnoxious, insulting bigots.

But understandably he’s popular in Brisbane and Sydney. Is he broadcast in Perth? I think he’d go well there too.

For the Southern Staters there were several games called the Battle of Brisbane between Australia and the POMS. We had the ASHES in Rugby League just like in cricket

http://www.eraofthebiff.com/memorable-matches-from-the-biff-era/m31-_2nd_test-_lang_park-_july_16-_1966_battle_of_brisbane_2

“For the first time in 33 years an Australia-Great Britain Test ended tryless. But alhough the second Test of the 1966 tour lacked free-flowing football, the blood at least flowed freely on the Lang Park turf.

The match, won 6-4 by Australia, was one of the most violent in rugby league history, with one player needing 33 stitches after being kicked in the head, another knocked senseless by a punch in the opening minutes and a spectator running on to the field to take a swing at British fullback Arthur Keegan. ”

PS People in Melbourne would have no idea why Alan Jones has respect in NSW and QLD. He was Australian Rugby coach and very successful . He also coached Rugby League as well. He coached Balmain in Rugby league

Jones was involved in Balmain and South Sydney. He f***ed both

Because his main attribute is being a loudmouth self promoter.

This week only, $549.95 per vial.

l can go into my backyard and supply soil touched by the paw-of-dog. The very same soil used by the talking snake in the magic apple garden!

All strikes were illegal and unprotected

Up until employers began using the law to prosecute people. The it was required

Now employers complain about the law ROFL

Striking has been made almost toothless

And as that link from yomm showed, it wasn’t the FWA itself, but the myriad ‘minor’ ‘tweaks’ that have made it unworkable from a Union stand point.

The pendulum swung far to the side of the employers, and continues.

The FWA act brought it back towards the center, but quite obviously (expecially in retrospect) should have gone further

We are still feeling the effects of work choices.

Secret ballot, claims about employment and observing agreed schedule of meetings are the main requirements. It’s not that onerous.

well, add them to others like these
The FWC can make an order to suspend or terminate protected industrial action on its own initiative, or on application by:

……..
the Minister for Employment

or

the action is protracted and is causing, or is going to cause, significant economic harm to the employer or employees who will be covered by the agreement.

and the bigger list here

https://www.fairwork.gov.au/how-we-will-help/templates-and-guides/fact-sheets/rights-and-obligations/industrial-action#initiateprotection

Yea, it gets ‘onerous’ pretty quick

Any further comments??

Yea, it’s from the lolstrayan

I’ll wait until I hear what Shorten actually said, and the context it appeared in, before making any further comment.

I don’t have access to The Weekend Australian

I did the google trick, and, rather than releasing his letter, they ‘parsed’ it, probably in hte lolstrayan inimitable manner, which is, whatever suits their purposes 😉

I think it is mainly to inconvenience employers.

No shit, That’s the aim!

They are withholding labour, not marching for world peace ffs

Which makes this so onerous

the action is protracted and is causing, or is going to cause, significant economic harm to the employer or employees who will be covered by the agreement.

The main aim of a strike is to make the owner notice, not get on the evening news!

Well, I think you’ll find that unions call it protest action. And try to argue that point whenever they’re in the FWC about these stoppages.

So are the unions being untruthful in the Commission?

Really?All employers do that?

If all the employees of a power station attend a “protest” and therefore shut down power generation, is that reasonable? Or is that decision just up to the judgement of a union?

But is it reasonable to shut down (say) power generation so that employees can attend a protest?

If unions decide to “hurt” a business because they disagree with a government policy, I’m not sure it’s reasonable to expect the business just to cop the “hurt” without seeking a legal remedy?

But that might be a little old fashioned for you progressive types.

Yomm for eg when bus drivers go on strike,they do it by not taking fares.

It hits the owners in the hip pocket, but keeps services running

And that was in the context of strike action