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Klansplaining: “It’s ok to be White”

October 16, 2018

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Yesterday 28 Senators voted in favour of Pauline Hanson’s racist stunt that “it’s ok to be white.”

In its entirety, the bill called for the Australian Senate to acknowledge “the deplorable rise of anti-white racism and attacks on Western civilization.”

ANTI WHITE RACISM “RIFE” SAYS HANSON

“People have a right to be proud of their cultural background, whether they are black, white or brindle. If we cannot agree on this, I think it’s safe to say anti-white racism is well and truly rife in our society,” Hanson said.

Speaking against the motion, Richard Di Natale said being white in Australia wasn’t just okay, it was “winning the lotto.”

“Just look around this chamber and see how many faces you see that aren’t white. Have a look in the privileged positions of Australian society, people who occupy these seats of the rich and powerful. How many of them are not white?”

If you’re still in any doubt, “it’s ok to be white” is a slogan created by white supremacists – and your government just voted for it.

While the vote was defeated 31 – 28, the number of Senators supporting the bill shocked many, with Mathias Cormann forced to front the media to somehow Klansplain away the Coalition’s enthusiasm for the racist bill as an “administrative error.”

So the Morrison government would now like us to accept that Government senators accidentally voted for a white supremacist meme which Hanson had flagged well in advance. Not one in their ranks baulked at the idea and many endorsed it soon after.

It’s really quite something else.

Michael Pascoe responded to the Government’s defence perfectly..

The government supported a racist meme for the base political motive of courting a divisive, pig-ignorant minority party. Either you’re not man enough to be honest about it or, worse, you actually support it. Nobody’s buying your bullshit on this.

 

 

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  1. October 16, 2018 10:05 am

    So today’s Klansplanation seems to be “We’re not racist, we’re incompetent”

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  2. Tom R permalink
    October 16, 2018 10:08 am

    “the deplorable rise of anti-white racism and attacks on Western civilization.”

    LINK!

    (sorry yomm …………….. NOT!)

  3. October 16, 2018 10:15 am

    An “administrative error”

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  4. October 16, 2018 10:20 am

    I’ve seen sly crabwalking away before but this is in a special category of its own…

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  5. Tom R permalink
    October 16, 2018 10:21 am

    An “administrative error”

    yea, from the mob who make their living from exploiting every administrative loophole in the system

    Well, they used to, now they just break conventions and ignore the rules

  6. October 16, 2018 10:21 am

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  7. TB Queensland permalink
    October 16, 2018 10:24 am

    So today’s Klansplanation seems to be “We’re not racist, we’re incompetent”

    Just said the same (in quotes above) to The Minister! WE must be psyclich or sumfin’ …

    Now AG Christian Porter blames a staffer

    How long did that take? Until the shit really hit the fan?

    I can actually visualise this lot as a bunch of missionaries paddling a dozen fkn barbed wire canoes up the proverbial (how appropriate) shit creek …

    I expect a very funny show from Shaun Micaliff this week and Insiders should be hilarious … especially after the by-election results are in … then we’ll really know whether Wentworth electors are on top of their game or stuck on Libs …

  8. TB Queensland permalink
    October 16, 2018 10:35 am

    An’ there’s tr’uble at mill, you lot …

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/15/climate-change-to-cause-dramatic-beer-shortages-extreme-weather-price

  9. TB Queensland permalink
    October 16, 2018 10:38 am

    from Christian Porter:

    It appears that, of the very large number of motions on which my office’s views are routinely sought, this one was not escalated to me because it was interpreted in my office as a motion opposing racism. The associations of the language were not picked up. Had it been raised directly with me those issues would have been identified.”

    LOL!

    A motion from Pauline Hanson! Opposing racism! LOL!

  10. October 16, 2018 10:47 am

    What a mob of gutless dog whistling homophobes and good old fashioned scum of the Earth .!

  11. Tom R permalink
    October 16, 2018 11:12 am

  12. October 16, 2018 12:40 pm

    Penny Wong:

    I move that the Senate take note of the government’s stated position on racism in Australia, and I rise to respond to that somewhat pathetic attempt at a clean-up.

    And that’s what it was—a pathetic attempt at a clean-up where this minister has to come in and try and take on the chin the fact that they all voted for a motion that included a phrase that everybody knows is used by white supremacists.

    All of you did so. And now you want to come in and say, ‘Oops, we made a mistake.’ We don’t believe you. No-one believes you, and everybody knows this is a just craven and pathetic attempt to try and clean up your mess.

    The reality is yesterday’s decision by government senators to vote in favour of a phrase created and disseminated by white supremacist groups around the world is a shameful episode.

    It is a shameful episode in this chamber. It is a phrase created by white, right-wing extremist groups in the United States with the sole purpose of causing a backlash to help convert people to the cause of the Neo-Nazis and extremist groups like the Klu Klux Klan. There is nothing innocent, nothing unknown, nothing hidden about this phrase.

    Frankly, the claim that somehow the government didn’t understand it or didn’t understand this or didn’t know about it is not believable.

    Frankly, if Mr Christian Porter wasn’t aware of the true meaning behind this phrase, then how is he fit to be the Attorney-General? And as to government senators who walked in here like sheep yesterday to stand up behind One Nation and Ms Hanson—frankly, do you really deserve to be here?

    I mean, who is running the government? Are you so lacking in basic decency, so lacking in understanding, so lacking in common sense, you just walk in and vote for a motion like that without actually looking at it on the basis that somebody in some office somewhere supposedly made a mistake?

    Do you really have no understanding of what One Nation was trying to achieve here?”

  13. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 16, 2018 12:55 pm

    28 people vote with Hanson and it’s an admin error! That’s some admin incompetence!

  14. October 16, 2018 1:01 pm

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  15. Tom R permalink
    October 16, 2018 1:03 pm

    That’s some admin incompetence!

    Perhaps they didn’t read the link?

    Whoomp! There it is.#auspol

    LOUD and clear!

  16. TB Queensland permalink
    October 16, 2018 1:07 pm

    Hear! Hear! ToM … if you or I had done/said something like that we would be out on our arse – quick sharp!

    Make your minds up SloMo, you’re government is either extreme/right wing or incompetent … either way you should not be shining your arses on green and red leather seats – on either side of the house …

  17. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 16, 2018 3:08 pm

    The problems is that there are lots of offensive symbols, words and phrases now.

    It’s actually ok to be any colour, because there isn’t much choice about that (unless you’re Michael Jackson)

    But if you’re part of the (white) privileged majority, it is mean spirited and provocative to rub people’s nose in the fact. It’s a little like saying – “I’m glad I’m not your colour…”

  18. October 16, 2018 3:32 pm

    Gee, it’s almost as if they hadn’t really thought this through…. 🙄

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  19. Tom R permalink
    October 16, 2018 3:39 pm

    But if you’re part of the (white) privileged majority, it is mean spirited and provocative to rub people’s nose in the fact. It’s a little like saying – “I’m glad I’m not your colour…”

    I AGREE!

  20. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 16, 2018 3:54 pm

    Indonesian politicians are sensational at grandstanding – they try to outdo each other on being tough on Australia

  21. Shane in QLD permalink
    October 16, 2018 4:27 pm

    Hanson says “One Nation is the party that doesn’t care whether you are Black, White or Brindle”

    And then this happens

    But asked if she would have a motion that it’s ok to be black she says “no”.

    Says it all really and proves what a racist she truly is.

  22. October 16, 2018 4:45 pm

    “”Says it all really and proves what a racist she truly is.””

    She’s from Queensland.

    If she went into Parliament with an “It’s ok to be from QLD” t-shirt I would have a little more sympathy.

    But she didn’t.

    So I don’t.

  23. October 16, 2018 4:48 pm

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  24. October 16, 2018 5:26 pm

    “It’s time” Australia needs a reset. This is the narrative of a desperate, incompetent government devoid of any moral compass with an unelected leader. #Electionnow

  25. TB Queensland permalink
    October 16, 2018 5:46 pm

    G’day Ricky P … time for new sunglasses surely …

    The LNP are either extreme right wing (religious) or incompetent and/or both …

    Any workplace would sack the lot of them and rehire … no severance benefits either …

    What a disastrous 24 hours its been for Australia’s (OUR) reputation — half of us should hang their heads in shame!

  26. TB Queensland permalink
    October 16, 2018 5:50 pm

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/16/dave-sharma-says-jerusalem-embassy-move-would-be-no-threat-to-australia

    Well I’d say he got that wrong … and I hope voters tell him so too (what sort of ambassdor was he, I wonder?)

    Turnbull’s pick apparently … Malfunction TurnAbbott was a great PM too, hey?*

    Jesus Christ what a schmozzle …

  27. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 16, 2018 6:26 pm

    The LNP are either extreme right wing (religious) or incompetent and/or both …

    And what is extreme right wing? And which party locked up 50,000 boat people from 2008-2013? The only thing Rudd/Gillard were good at was building more and more detention centers.

    The Commonwealth was debt free in 2007. All destroyed by Rudd/Gillard and the people who voted for them

  28. TB Queensland permalink
    October 16, 2018 8:06 pm

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  29. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 16, 2018 9:03 pm

    Art… finally some good taste in the White House

    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-16/donald-trump-portrait-andy-thomas-white-house-portrait/10382788

  30. TB Queensland permalink
    October 16, 2018 9:54 pm

    Wha-a-a-a-T?

    Good taste … my arse …

  31. October 17, 2018 7:23 am

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  32. TB Queensland permalink
    October 17, 2018 8:06 am

    Good dat!

  33. TB Queensland permalink
    October 17, 2018 8:25 am

    Fraser in large part blames “neoliberalism” and its influence on policymaking for the “disconnect between Australia’s impressive economic growth story and its failure on so many markers to show progress towards a better, fairer society”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/oct/17/neoliberalism-has-caused-misery-and-division-bernie-fraser-says

    Survive in a neo-liberal economy or thrive in a society?

  34. Tom R permalink
    October 17, 2018 8:50 am

    What does the 🗣️ Government stand for?

    Big Business
    Bankers
    Coal

    GREED!

  35. October 17, 2018 8:56 am

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  36. October 17, 2018 9:06 am

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  37. Tom R permalink
    October 17, 2018 9:54 am

    Hat tip to Monty there by Tim reb 😉

  38. Tom R permalink
    October 17, 2018 10:06 am

    I see it hasn’t taken the sa libs long to go back to their old ways

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-16/backup-power-stations-to-be-privatised-by-sa-government/10382716?section=technology

  39. TB Queensland permalink
    October 17, 2018 10:52 am

    I see it hasn’t taken the sa libs long to go back to their old ways

    Using the logic in that story, we may as well all sell the spare tyre in our cars …

    I could sell all my tools for a quick quid and just pay other people to fix thing around our home … gotta be cheaper, hey?* Then I could sell all the spares I carry in the workshop shed too … this is good fun … and why bother generating with the solar system just sell it and use grid power .. oh … wait …

    LNP politicians … just.don’t.get.it. … born to rule mentality …

    (A QC did the report???? Why not an Engineer or four – Mechanical, Electrical, Electronics, Environmental?)

  40. Tom R permalink
    October 17, 2018 11:45 am

    LNP politicians … just.don’t.get.it.

    I thought one of the reasons for having the power stations in Government control, was so that they could to some degree control the market, which has failed the state miserably over the years.
    And the libs have just handed that control back to the spivs who fleeced us all that time
    Yea, I reckon they get it alright
    GREED rules all

  41. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 17, 2018 12:37 pm

    And ALP supporters are the experts in greed. That is why a lot of people vote ALP. They want this that and whatever from the govt for free. But they do not want to contribute

  42. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 17, 2018 12:47 pm

    LNP politicians … just.don’t.get.it. … born to rule mentality …

    I don’t think it’s like that TB. I think the Liberal up to Malcolm Fraser certainly had the born to rule mentality, now I think they are just low grade conservatives and reactionaries without direction or philosophy

    They don’t stand for anything, other than being the opposite of the ALP

    And the ALP are just as bad

  43. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 17, 2018 1:11 pm

    I thought one of the reasons for having the power stations in Government control, was so that they could to some degree control the market, which has failed the state miserably over the years.

    Amazing what deluded people believe to support their deluded beliefs. The electricity market has been distorted by giving govt subsidies to renewable energy generation.

    BTW who owns the renewable energy generation in SA? Are the windmills govt owned or privately owned. I suspect private industry owns the windmills but they get massive govt subsidies. Anyway as soon as industry gets govt subsidies it distorts the market

  44. October 17, 2018 4:41 pm

    Another day, another clusterfuck for the govt…

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  45. TB Queensland permalink
    October 17, 2018 6:11 pm

    But they do not want to contribute

    What a twisted incompetent snivelly little thing you must be, Dick …

    I reckon I paid far more tax than you could count (ten seems to be your limit) and contributed to the development of this country far more than you could ever do with the convoluted understanding of the world around you … so stop whining about ALP voters and do some fucking research for a change … instead of lazily listening to podcasts from the Young Liberals … you are still a member I take it … I read where a few of you got banished recently … on the piss again or brawling in the street …

  46. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 18, 2018 1:38 pm

    TB

    I gave my opinion. Most people vote Labor because they want this that and whatever from the govt. They do not want to contribute. They just want to take. It is all about me me me for most ALP supporters.

    Labor will always run deficit budgets because they cannot say no to greedy people. The current Coalition govt seems to be made of the same stuff

  47. TB Queensland permalink
    October 18, 2018 1:56 pm

    Explain these greedy people … and their entitlements … Harry was just given $4,000,000 from his old man … he’s not Australian … does not contribute tax to Australia and his family suck on the teat like its their last meal …

    https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/royal-tour-cost-of-prince-harry-and-meghans-trip-to-australian-taxpayers/news-story/7150a59b6fe1c94ee258172bdcbed89b

  48. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 18, 2018 2:30 pm

    Well for the UK the Royal family is at the very least a tourist attraction. nobody is going to the UK to see where the President of the UK lives. They may go to see Buckingham Palace. They also provide a non-political head of state (in theory). So when a disaster occurs in the UK they get a member of the Royal family turning up to provide comfort rather than a politician. And would trooping of the colour make any sense with a UK President?

    They are not as useful for Australia but as you can see aussies love them

  49. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 18, 2018 4:46 pm

    I think there is an anti-Israel sentiment in the ALP, although that’s not the same as anti-semitic

    https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/what-a-joke-parliament-erupts-after-controversial-accusation/news-story/a7dfb379ed503df0f3bdcf299fa0b586

  50. TB Queensland permalink
    October 18, 2018 4:52 pm

    They are not as useful for Australia but as you can see aussies love them

    (Note: People do go to the USofA to see where the President lives … and many people love fairytale stories about princes and princesses – they are really not “special” and sent from heaven).

    Actually …

    I asked you to … “Explain these greedy people … and their entitlements …”

    Based on your original insults …

    Not provide a rambling Pommie endorsement …

  51. TB Queensland permalink
    October 18, 2018 5:05 pm

    I haven’t seen the ad … but the concept I find distasteful, would be unacceptable to Christians and frankly a distraction to the real message … (however, there is a phrase at the bottom of this Change.org I also find distasteful and unnecessary but for another reason …

    Hey everyone,

    I saw on the news today that a new TV ad will be aired soon which depicts Jesus on the cross as a means to promote organ donation:

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/organ-donation-ad-depicting-jesus-causing-controversy-090646627.html

    It shows Jesus on the cross with two roman soldiers explaining why He needs to sign up to be an organ donor. They raise a phone up to Him to sign Him up and take a selfie with Him whilst on the cross.

    Although I can see the need for more organ donors (as a surgical nurse myself), I feel that the advertisement itself is highly derogatory. It is disrespectful and undermines the power of the cross that we place our hope in.

    I am launching this campaign to have this advertisement removed from television. We cannot be silent on this matter.

    If you have any advice on how to further this cause, please let me know.

    Yours in Christ,

    Dané Craill

    Ps. Don’t need your money just your support

    Update: I am glad that it’s starting some conversations guys! For some of us it might be a segway to talk about Jesus in our work areas, others have shown some strong opposition to the ad. Either way, keep pressing on!

  52. October 18, 2018 7:36 pm

    Twenty Eight of the cunts knowingly (in my estimation; profound dogwhistling…trying to outflank the dumb casual racist on their right flank) voted for such despicable shit.

    A new low.

    Probably cultivated a few Dunning-Krugerites though, sadly.

  53. TB Queensland permalink
    October 18, 2018 8:02 pm

    toylet … link? Explanation?

  54. October 18, 2018 8:40 pm

    “It’s actually ok to be any colour, because there isn’t much choice about that (unless you’re Michael Jackson)

    But if you’re part of the (white) privileged majority, it is mean spirited and provocative to rub people’s nose in the fact. It’s a little like saying – “I’m glad I’m not your colour…”

    Exactly how I see it.

    Exactly why it was a deliberately provocative, unnecessary political dogwhistle on the highest stage in this country.
    The fact that 28 Senators of a ‘mainstream’ Party saw fit to endorse it…well, fuck that shit with a grubbing axe!

  55. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 18, 2018 9:01 pm

    (Note: People do go to the USofA to see where the President lives

    Yes but the White House is the seat of govt in the USA. The President has governmental powers. If we turned our GG into a President I doubt many people would visit to see where he lives. The Monarchy is still useful for Britain. At the very least it is a tourist attraction. It provides a non-political head of state that the whole nation can unite around. And they have some interesting ceremonial functions. I still think the monarchy is useful for Britain. Perhaps not so useful for us.

  56. TB Queensland permalink
    October 18, 2018 9:49 pm

    Explain these greedy people … and their entitlements … Harry was just given $4,000,000 from his old man … he’s not Australian

    And cost us $1,000,000 for a fkn holiday!

  57. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 18, 2018 9:55 pm

    What?? So harry got $4M from Prince Philip and then you say he is not Australian. So what??

    Prince Harry brings some joy to people. I do not care what it costs. If his expenses causes you to be upset that is an added bonus.

  58. October 18, 2018 10:16 pm

    ” Most people vote Labor because they want this that and whatever from the govt. They do not want to contribute. They just want to take. ”

    You truly ignorant cunt.

  59. October 18, 2018 10:23 pm

    “I think there is an anti-Israel sentiment in the ALP, although that’s not the same as anti-semitic”

    Hmmmm.

    There is a chasm between anti-Israel & anti-Zionist.

    Let alone (little lone…anyone remember that ignoramus dressed in bespoke cufflinks?) anti-semitic.

    I’m sure that you are cynically politically aware enough, YomM, to decipher that the vague allusions towards ‘considering’ a move of the Aus Embassy, ala Trump, are nothing more than a blunt, stupid, insulting attempt at political expedience immediately prior to an embarassing by-election loss?

  60. October 18, 2018 10:25 pm

    “They are not as useful for Australia but as you can see aussies love them”

    …some.

    Let’s ask a few about the love once they comprehend the cost.

    Fuck Hereditary Entitlement; even worse, it’s drooling lickspittles.

  61. October 18, 2018 10:31 pm

    Thanks to the blog operator for the increased threads.

    It’s a time of sickening political eventuations.

    Very Ripe!

  62. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 18, 2018 10:41 pm

    Ignorant?

    People vote LABOR because they want this that and whatever from the govt. End of story. Most ALP supporters do not want to contribute. They want to take

  63. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 19, 2018 8:25 am

    ittle lone…anyone remember that ignoramus dressed in bespoke cufflinks?

    Well, someone with the status of Mayor Of Crapperville should dress like Prince Charles!

  64. Tom R permalink
    October 19, 2018 9:18 am

    I think there is an anti-Israel sentiment in the ALP, although that’s not the same as anti-semitic

    There should be. Israel has committed many atrocities.

    Then again, there should be an anti-Australia sentiment too

    Do you agree with an anti-Israel sentiment yomm?

  65. Tom R permalink
    October 19, 2018 9:33 am

  66. Tom R permalink
    October 19, 2018 9:50 am

    Another ‘tewwawist’ bites the dust

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-19/nsw-police-drop-charges-on-student-accused-of-assassination-plot/10395172

    Mr Nizamdeen spent four weeks in jail after being charged.

    Hope he sues their asses off

  67. Walrus permalink
    October 19, 2018 9:51 am

    “This workers was paid 30% less than permanent workers. Kelly O’Dwyer now wants him to lose leave entitlements as well.”

    Is it possible that he was not as experienced as the permanents…..?

    Anyway I’ve already advised a couple of clients to get rid of some longish term casual staff and take on new ones. This is basically in the hospitality areas. I’ll be advising others to do same as well in case this does blow up.

    Business owners will not put up with this crap from the ACTU

    Good one Sally

  68. Tom R permalink
    October 19, 2018 10:02 am

    Anyway I’ve already advised a couple of clients to get rid of some longish term casual staff and take on new ones.

    Of course, the solution is to continue to exploit workers, rather than pay them appropriately

    THIS is why we need Unions

    Good one Sally

    For applying the law?

    And you are encouraging people to break it.

  69. Walrus permalink
    October 19, 2018 10:29 am

    “And you are encouraging people to break it.”

    How is firing casuals breaking the Law ?

    “……rather than pay them appropriately”

    They were already paid the casual loading. Employers are not going to pay a loading plus annual leave and sick leave. So its goodbye to long term casuals thanks to the ACTU.

    Clearly you have never ever run a business at a profit

    If this shit persists just wait for the unemployment rate to shoot up.

  70. Walrus permalink
    October 19, 2018 10:32 am

    “For applying the law?

    And you are encouraging people to break it.”

    And queue the absolute hypocrisy from you……………..

    “I believe in the rule of law when the law is fair and the law is right. But when it’s unjust I don’t think there’s a problem with breaking it.” – Sally McManus.

    Note the “anus” in the name……….what a shithead

  71. Tom R permalink
    October 19, 2018 10:49 am

    How is firing casuals breaking the Law ?

    Because you plan on replacing them with someone else to do the same job, simply because you don’t want to pay them appropriately

    Pretty sure if you were taken to court, you’d find yourself in a bit of difficulty

    So its goodbye to long term casuals

    And hello to permanents (should be the solution)

    And queue the absolute hypocrisy from you

    Actually, I was highlighting yours 😉

    If this shit persists just wait for the unemployment rate to shoot up.

    To reflect the reality?
    People’s livelihoods shouldn’t be a churn to save employers a few dimes.

  72. Walrus permalink
    October 19, 2018 11:22 am

    “Because you plan on replacing them with someone else to do the same job, ”

    Nope………….!

    A tweak here and there and its a different Award classification.

    They’ll be given a lower or higher classification (not the same job then LOL). Clearly you dont know the Award. Its even better to pay a few extra dollars per week than thousands after 1 year.

    Then they’ll get churned as well. In fact probably after 8 or 9 months especially when there are seasonal peaks in trading

  73. Walrus permalink
    October 19, 2018 11:24 am

    “If his expenses causes you to be upset that is an added bonus.”

    LOL that’s quite amusing

  74. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 19, 2018 11:57 am

    So there is a rate aid by the employer/operator of the site and a contractor who probably observes the award.

    It’s an interesting dilemma for unions

  75. Tom R permalink
    October 19, 2018 11:59 am

    A tweak here and there and its a different Award classification.

    And this is the kind of things the FWO should be going after, because “a tweak here and there” sounds like you are doing something illegal 😉

    Not getting caught doesn’t make it legal

    (in case the tweet cannot be seen)

    “On of the FWO’s KPIs requires it only to use its compliance/enforcement powers in 10% of disputes it investigates.

    In 2017/18, it only used these powers in 4% of cases.

    In other words, it could have been twice as tough on wage thieves, but chose to let dodgy bosses run rampant.

    Remember, this KPI puts an artificial cap on the number of dodgy bosses who can be prosecuted.

    So every time the FWO goes after a unionist who strikes for safety, they have to let a wage thief off the hook.”

  76. Walrus permalink
    October 19, 2018 12:38 pm

    There is no thievery involved. They are getting paid as per the Award + 25%. They just wont last due to “seasonal factors” so tough luck.

    It’ll require a bit of forward planning of churns and perhaps hire more backpackers rather than locals since backpackers move on anyway.

    Problem solved LOL

  77. Tom R permalink
    October 19, 2018 12:57 pm

    There is no thievery involved. They are getting paid as per the Award + 25%.

    Yes there is. You are thieving workers of their proper entitlements

    And we are not talking about ‘seasonal’ work. These people have worked the same job for years, not months

    What you are talking about is attempting to circumvent the law, something you railed against just recently.

    Some companies have been caught out doing exactly what you propose, and are now paying the price

  78. Walrus permalink
    October 19, 2018 1:13 pm

    “What you are talking about is attempting to circumvent the law……””

    Since when is it illegal to hire backpackers. Its simply a case of being more vigilant with rosters for locals and being alert to when you need to fire someone or stop giving them shifts after a certain amount of time.

    We are not talking about highly skilled work in hospitalty.

    There is plenty of canon fodder out there. McManus has no fucking idea what will be unleashed

    Simple really.

  79. Tom R permalink
    October 19, 2018 1:17 pm

    Since when is it illegal to hire backpackers.

    When you have laid off a local in order to do so.

    There is still a requirement to hire locally if possible. Laying someone off and rehiring would find you in hot water, if any of our agencies were doing their job that is.

    But they are too busy going after the people who are trying to do the job they refuse to do.

  80. Tom R permalink
    October 19, 2018 1:20 pm

    There is plenty of canon fodder out there.

    And that sums up our Industrial Relations perfectly

    And the Unions are the bullies?

  81. Walrus permalink
    October 19, 2018 1:36 pm

    “When you have laid off a local in order to do so.””…………………..Link?

    We are not talking about 457 visas. We are talking about waiters and bar persons.

    “There is still a requirement to hire locally if possible.” Rubbish if a backpacker has a work visa all good. Plenty of local CVs can be passed over. You cannot force someone to hire a local

    “”Laying someone off and rehiring would find you in hot water”

    No it wont. Due to the sheer number of Award classifications within the hospitality industry your Union heroes have actually made it easier to provide good reasons

    And we don”t need to lay them off. We just stop giving them shifts. Simple

  82. Tom R permalink
    October 19, 2018 2:05 pm

    We’re not talking about bar staff, we;re talking about people working full time jobs classed as a casual, not something a backpacker would be interested in, especially if it’s fifo work. Stop moving goalposts

    https://www.acacia-au.com/lmt.php

  83. Walrus permalink
    October 19, 2018 3:27 pm

    I’m not moving goal posts. I was clear at the beginning I was talking about the hospitality industry.

    Or does it come as a surprise to you that barstaff, waiters and kitchen hands can be found in the hospitality industry.

  84. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 19, 2018 3:38 pm

    So… an employer observes the award applicable to a site. That’s because they aren’t a party to the union agreement that applies and Tom R is annoyed that they aren’t observing an agreement that doesn’t apply to them.

  85. Walrus permalink
    October 19, 2018 4:07 pm

    “We’re not talking about bar staff, we;re talking about people working full time jobs classed as a casual, ”

    There wont be any differentiation. They’ll become part time permanent instead.

  86. Tom R permalink
    October 19, 2018 4:33 pm

    So… an employer observes the award applicable to a site.

    Yea, except they didn’t, did they, as the court decided 😉

    I’m not moving goal posts. I was clear at the beginning I was talking about the hospitality industry.

    And the case was dealing with someone in the mining industry.

  87. Walrus permalink
    October 19, 2018 5:20 pm

    Are you seriously expecting people to believe that it will be restricted to Mining ?

    You either think we are naive or you are

  88. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 19, 2018 6:12 pm

    The casual was employed by another company, and the industrial agreement didn’t apply to that company.

    Therefore the casual was employed under the award.

    Tom R must have a problem with awards

  89. TB Queensland permalink
    October 19, 2018 7:21 pm

    Always interesting to read the comments of folk with backgrounds that the award system had no impact on … people are just pawns* … or as manager was heard saying (in my first employer’s boardroom) … workers are like leaves on a tree -they drop off and you grow a new one … (and – this one is a doozey) … workers are like pencils – one breaks and you just grab another one …

    *Employees are not just a means to an end for profiteers they are people trying to survive, particularly in the hospitality industry, and improve their lives …

    I’ve always wondered why pay and conditions are regulated … but profits and prices aren’t?

    Is this where we all end up … Elites and the Plebs …

  90. TB Queensland permalink
    October 19, 2018 8:35 pm

    “This is such a lovely spot,” Prince Harry told the prime minister, who does not want Australia to become a republic.

    Well, I guess that’s another reason I like him … I believe even his granny said a similar thing (“I don’t know why they don’t get on with it now and become a Republic”) …

    Are Aussies really afraid of change so much? Even The Firm obviously get a Republic … and we hang on to the … ah we think we are part of the royalty … what fucking childishness …

    “Normal Liberal” voters … the world is really such a farce …

  91. Flutter`Harder`Teabag permalink
    October 20, 2018 3:19 pm

    This is a fantabulous post on all fronts! First; pauline has proven they`re just a bunch of goose stepping, ku-klux-teabags, just as l`ve often referred to them as!

    (2) Funny repug error by ol`trainy trainy. ‘lovely spot,’ Prince Harry told the prime minister, slomo does not want Australia to become a republic. @let me guess teebz, that quote came from LimitedNews??

    (3) l notice somebody is still doing all he can to entrench poverty at home again. What is not telling team cheerer is backpackers are often on ‘tourist'(no-work) visas. Most of the backpackers are usually working on (scab) lower pay rates than ‘minimum’. Can we here any kudos for offshore donations.

  92. Tom R permalink
    October 22, 2018 9:14 am

    Are you seriously expecting people to believe that it will be restricted to Mining ?

    No, the retail sector is already found to be possibly the worst at breaking Industrial Relations rules. You’re examples highlights this.

    You would rather circumvent the rules than apply them correctly.

    Therefore the casual was employed under the award.

    Actually, he was incorrectly employed under the award.

    It was once they applied the Award to him correctly that the issue arose

  93. Whats`Cooking`Teabag permalink
    November 10, 2018 5:34 pm

    October 19, 2018 9:51 am “ I`ve already advised a couple of clients to get rid of some longish term casual staff and take on new ones. This is basically in the hospitality areas. I`ll be advising others to do same as well

    October 19, 2018 11:22 am “ A tweak here and there and its a different Award classification. They`ll be given a lower or higher classification (not the same job then LOL). Then they`ll get churned as well. In fact probably after 8 or 9 months especially when there are seasonal peaks in trading

    October 19, 2018 12:38 pm “ They are getting paid as per the Award + 25%. They just wont last due to `seasonal-factors` so tough luck. It`ll require a bit of forward planning of churns and perhaps hire more backpackers rather than locals since backpackers move on anyway. Problem solved LOL

    October 19, 2018 1:13 pm ” Since when is it illegal to hire backpackers. Its simply a case of being more vigilant with rosters for locals and being alert to when you need to fire someone or stop giving them shifts after a certain amount of time. We are not talking about highly skilled work in hospitalty. There is plenty of canon-fodder out there.”

    October 19, 2018 1:36 pm ” We are not talking about 457 visas. We are talking about waiters and bar persons. Rubbish if a backpacker has a work visa all good. Plenty of local CVs can be passed over. No it wont. Due to the sheer number of Award classifications within the hospitality industry your Union heroes have actually made it easier to provide good reasons And we don`t need to lay them off. We just stop giving them shifts. Simple”

    October 19, 2018 3:27 pm ” I`m not moving goal posts. I was clear at the beginning I was talking about the hospitality industry. Or does it come as a surprise to you that barstaff, waiters and kitchen hands can be found in the hospitality industry.”

    October 19, 2018 4:07 pm “ There wont be any differentiation. They`ll become part time permanent instead.

    @sorry teamcheerer, LEGALLY speaking; blubbers is correct. This above is; a variation of the KrustyBurger StaffingModel. The above Local-v-backpacker model smoked quite a few towns back in the 1990s; and are now dependent on islandSlaves or/and b`packSlaves, on about 3to4 bucks/hour.

    @A similar fulltime-v-casual model is what has smoked many manufacturing-biz over the years, not daOnions or workers as the other imbecile bleats.

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