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Serendipity and fate

January 7, 2019

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Believe it or not, I actually (occasionally) think a great deal about some of the comments made here on the blog, more recently taking some time to consider other’s points of view – especially when those views may challenge my own deep rooted beliefs.

Some folks here may be familiar with my contempt for christianity, especially those who seek to impose their christian-based beliefs on non-believers.  This has caused many ructions throughout my life; particularly in my childhood and formative years growing up in a religious household. Without going into further detail, the emotional and psychological damage this caused would be felt for many years afterward in many ways.

Obviously I’m not Robinson Crusoe in that regard and the damage inflicted by religious institutions on many other people (young and old and) numbers many hundreds of thousands.

My outspoke disdain towards christians has been called out on a couple of occasions on the blog as a form of bigotry, an accusation I’ve given pause to reflect upon.


 

Fate or serendipity (or both)

A few days ago on twitter, someone was asking someone else for some recommended podcasts to while away the hours and the name John O’Donohue was suggested; an Irish philosopher and poet.  Clearly having way too much time on my hands (I was on holiday after all) I decided to look up who this O’Donohue character was and checked out the link to his webpage.

I’ve never really been one for poetry, however some of his thoughts and observations about life (and death), living and consciousness really resonated with me and so I have been reading his works online and have just ordered one of his books – Anam Cara: A Book of Celtic Wisdom. I may have discovered a new-found interest in poetry as a result. Or at least O’Donohue’s anyway.

To make such a discovery in such a random and unpremeditated way in some circles might be considered serendipity, however I may be forgiven for thinking other forces may be at work when I learnt that at the age of 52 O’Donohue passed away suddenly and unexpectedly in his sleep almost to this very day ten years ago. Coincidentally, being of the same age and a fellow Celt, this made listening to this fascinating interview all the more poignant; almost as if receiving a message from the past about living here and now.

If you have the time or inclination, I’d encourage you to listen to the podcast episode rather than reading the transcript as so much more meaning is conveyed in O’Donohue’s diction than just reading the words alone.


 

“Transience is the force of time that makes a ghost of every experience. There was never a dawn, regardless how beautiful or promising, that did not grow into a noontime. There was never a noon that did not fall into afternoon. There was never an afternoon that did not fade toward evening. There never was a day yet that did not get buried in the graveyard of the night. In this way transience makes a ghost out of everything that happens to us.”

John O’Donohue

 

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152 Comments leave one →
  1. January 8, 2019 12:25 am

    I will certainly check it out, reb.

    Another strange date/time coincidence; today is my brother’s birthday.

  2. January 8, 2019 12:28 am

    As if that wasn’t coincidental enough…

    About two decades ago, he began working (no longer in the same employment) with a bloke from South Africa who was born on exactly the same date as him (Jan 7, 197…). This day.

    We are all still tight. Not surprising, as I value my brother above all others; but to even know the other individual is uncanny as fuck.

  3. January 8, 2019 12:31 am

    Anyone who wants to be spun the fuck out by a philosopher, should watch the Youtube vid (recent) of Slavoj Zizek carrying on like an interesting fruitcake at Oxford (I think).

  4. January 8, 2019 12:33 am

    * Please note, it was still Jan 7 in SA, when I made these comments above…

  5. January 8, 2019 12:52 am

    Having read a bit, my region of Australia, is known as The Limestone Coast.

    Curiouser & curiouser.

  6. You`Have`Been`Assimilated`Teabag permalink
    January 8, 2019 2:17 am

    Hint, canoeland isn`t as `fascinating` to the rest of the nation as those that live there believe it to be.

  7. Enemy`Of`The`People`Teabag permalink
    January 8, 2019 6:57 am

    There is no point feeling guilty because the folks that claim you are a `bigot` of some type; is caused by their ilk trying to ram skyfairy down your throat; in particular, `their` skyfairy. When we look at the world we can see; buddists cleansing ethnically burma; hindus raping their way thru their caste system; the jewish nation running their industrial military landGrab complex; xtians operating global pedophile complexes. And Don`t forget the mooooooslims! The whole lot of`em are snorting their `brand` of skyfairy dust and are not truly happy unless they hook more addicts onto `their` skyfairy dust which they believe stops them being frightened of death.

    On a long enough timeline; the survival rate for every primate falls zero.

    So enjoy.

  8. Enemy`Of`The`People`Teabag permalink
    January 8, 2019 7:00 am

    On a long enough timeline; the survival rate for every primate falls TO zero.

    So enjoy.

  9. Rusher`is`FakeNews`Teabag permalink
    January 8, 2019 7:50 am

    Transience is the force of time that makes a zombie of every parliament. There was never a policy, regardless how beautiful or promising, that did not turn into a monster. There was never a team that did not trip over itself. There was never an idea that did not fade before the public. There never was a leader yet that did not get buried in the graveyard of their team. In this Canberra way, transience makes a zombie out of everything that happens in Aust.

  10. January 8, 2019 9:37 am

    “”Anyone who wants to be spun the fuck out by a philosopher, should watch the Youtube vid (recent) of Slavoj Zizek carrying on like an interesting fruitcake at Oxford (I think).””

    Thanks boss, I’ll check that out tonight.

  11. January 8, 2019 9:48 am

    “There is no point feeling guilty because the folks that claim you are a `bigot` of some type; is caused by their ilk trying to ram skyfairy down your throat.”

    Rest assured there’s no sense of guilt or anything like that involved, Bagz.

    I still think that christians are hypocritical and delusional – particularly the born again happy clappy mob and those that are convinced that the Bejebus is coming back. Special mention goes out to the catholics who maintain wealth, power and influence based on decades of fear, manipulation, torment and persecution.

    It’s more about reflecting on my own disdain towards christians (which borders on hatred with a passion) and whether this is really healthy. After many years of harbouring resentment over what this mob did to my childhood (and to many others over the years, and still to this day), I don’t think it’s particularly healthy for me to hold on to this anger and hatred any more.

    So I’ve kind of reached the realisation that I’m perhaps more inclined to feel ambivalent towards them and perhaps even a little sorry for them.

    As someone wiser than me once said “holding on to anger is like drinking poison and hoping the other person dies.”

  12. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 8, 2019 10:15 am

    Interesting reflection reb. I think some of us also reflect on the hasty comments we make during luvely discussions, but that’s what makes this a (generally) intelligent and lively blog!

  13. shaneinqld permalink
    January 8, 2019 10:21 am

    reb

    Sadly so many of our politicians these days preach anger and hate and intolerance and greed with so many of them also acting on those feelings in their policies. They are also breeding anger at things that do not affect many people at all.

  14. January 8, 2019 11:29 am

    It’s not just politicians Shane.

    Society today is all about instant gratification. And if people can’t get it, or feel that they’re somehow being denied it, while others are (perceived to be, or in reality are) getting ahead, then it breeds anger and resentment.

    Where there’s anger and resentment, ppl will seek to blame someone else and minority groups or immigrants become an easy target.

    What’s puzzling in all of this, is that Australia’s economy is actually doing quite well and yet there’s this creeping sense that ppl are being denied something because of other minority groups. You need look no further than the recent St Kilda protests for evidence of this.

    This anger and resentment isn’t really warranted but as you point out, politicians are only to happy to play into this and use it as a way to garner votes and distract from their own incompetence.

    In the space of the last 10 or twenty years or so we’ve lost a lot of the “real connectivity” we once had with each other. This morning on the tram to work, I looked around and without a hint of exaggeration 95% of passengers were staring into their handheld devices completely oblivious to the world around them.

    The world of celebrity has always been around us with trashy magazines and the like but with the advent of social media ppl seem to spend a great deal of their time online staring into little devices posting photos and crap about their own lives or indulging in the fantasy lives posted by others. Very little person-to-person engagement is actually taking place in the real world anymore. It’s pretty fuckn’ sad when you go to a restaurant and you see toddlers staring into ipad screens playing cartoon games and the like but that’s the reality of society today.

    I was reading an article about an “epidemic of loneliness” in society in which it attributes part of the problem to social media. I had largely expected the most lonely people to be the elderly who had perhaps lost a spouse, but was surprised to find that it is in fact young people aged 16-25. Could it be that the generation brought up addicted to hand held devices are suffering from a lack of social skills? I suspect so. I imagine it will only get worse when we now have toddlers using the fuckn’ things.

  15. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 8, 2019 11:34 am

    95% of passengers were staring into their handheld devices completely oblivious to the world around them.

    Guess what! I’m just overlooking some of the spectacular Victorian coast, and what am I doing…

  16. Know`Collusion`Teabag permalink
    January 8, 2019 11:38 am

    Yeah mate, dump the hate; anger; greed; envy; negative vibes, they are all no good for a healthy happy life, and you shouldn`t give team skyfairy any more of your happiness or sanity etc. Like shane; l think its disgusting that clowntown zombies have been pushing the negative vibes upon citizens.

    (drink poison quote, heard it before for `hate`, its a beauty)

  17. TB Queensland permalink
    January 8, 2019 11:52 am

    Hypocrites don’t know they are … and call others who disagree with their belief system … bigots …

    Personally I have no “guilt” or need for “revenge” when calling out organised religions’ hypocrisies …

    Facts are facts … organised religion and the programs to “make” others believe has caused more harm to the human race than anything else I can think of …

    Communism, fascism and religion fall under one heading POWER & CONTROL …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    tbagz, i noticed you didn’t mention christianity in your little soliloquy above

    January 8, 2019 6:57 am

  18. Know`Collusion`Teabag permalink
    January 8, 2019 12:16 pm

    xtians operating global pedophile complexes @teebz

    ____

    Three years ago; Did rainbows just `perceive` inequality?

    While some of the `economic` stuff may be perceived reb; there has been a hell of a lot of `real` economic unfairness inflicted on many (and more to come). Had the FakeNews outlets not only reported home price `growth`; shareprice growth; and profit growth; but alongside reported homeless growth; poverty growth; junkjob growth; drug use growth; and mental illness growth, then folks would have a more sober and realistic view of what the situation is.

  19. TB Queensland permalink
    January 8, 2019 12:32 pm

    pology, tbagz … must stop skimming … have no time just lately … busy with all sorts of projects – all of them for free and all for other people!

    LG tho’ … 🙂

  20. January 8, 2019 1:02 pm

    “”While some of the `economic` stuff may be perceived reb; there has been a hell of a lot of `real` economic unfairness inflicted on many””

    Absolutely.

  21. shaneinqld permalink
    January 8, 2019 3:45 pm

    reb

    You are so correct with the isolation of our youth. They are also losing the ability to operate and associate in real world with real interactions. Instead they enter a world on facebook, or games with people they have never met, will never meet and will never know personally. They are filled with falsehoods and totally unbelievable worlds. We all know the world of the internet is filled with falsehoods and trickery.

    From my perspective the change started under Keating actually. Wages used to rise by a certain number of dollars rather than a percentage. So when a wage rise was granted it was for say $10 or $15 a week. So all staff even the top got the same rise, all were compensated equally for cost of living. The only true wage rise was through promotion.

    Then it was changed to a percentage rise which has totally changed the gap between the top and the bottom. From there the greed for ones own salary took over. Wages were to be hidden and private and used as a tool to drive a wedge between staff. My first job in the CBA was to tear the wages slips apart and deliver them to each staff member. All payslips were in a roll and available for all to see. By the time I left wages were a tool to drive staff to compete against each other rather than a means to provide service to customers.

  22. January 8, 2019 3:55 pm

    “They are also losing the ability to operate and associate in real world with real interactions. “

    Yep, I see it where I work… Millenials in their twenties who are completely socially awkward, have no idea how to even say hello or good morning and instead just sit at their desks staring at their phones..

  23. TB Queensland permalink
    January 8, 2019 4:04 pm

    Its not just at work – its in the streets and cars and restaurants and shops and homes, and its not just Millenials … its all generations … from boomers to schoolkids …

    The Walking Dead are already here!

  24. TB Queensland permalink
    January 8, 2019 4:59 pm

    Speaking of those who think everyone should believe as they do …

    Did anyone mention Vegans?

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/outrage-as-vegans-deface-queensland-butcher-with-spraypaint/news-story/3f92fa5ed7eac1f96ec89995a9cacb6b

  25. January 9, 2019 12:28 am

    Meat=delicious

  26. January 9, 2019 12:33 am

    “In the space of the last 10 or twenty years or so we’ve lost a lot of the “real connectivity” we once had with each other.”

    This is a very important recognition.

    II think, maybe the last 10-15 years or so?

    Maybe because we couldn’t afford the devices 20yrs ago?
    My progeny is almost 19yo, but was ‘device deprived’ until she was through most ‘socially formative’ periods, then supervised; now adult.

    Hasn’t really been a problem for us.

    My nephews…6+ years behind her. Sometimes you’d struggle to get recognition from them if they had their gaze FIXATED upon their tablets etc.

    Anyhow, there’s no replacement for genuine, first person interaction, to engender humanity within a human, imho.

  27. January 9, 2019 12:39 am

    I’m going to ignore bagz’ cheap jibe at SA. Although, it should be acknowledged that I am not within 500km of the State Capital, where the ‘identity’ & decisions originate; I’m almost Victorian, geographically.

    I’d rather focus upon bagz’ rather excellent comment. @Jan 8, 6:57am

  28. January 9, 2019 12:41 am

    “Thanks boss, I’ll check that out tonight.”

    Zizek says many interesting/contrversial things.

    But what makes that particular video interesting, is that he looks like he just snorted colombian marching dust. I’m probably overlooking his normal mannerisms here…and I did find what he said fascinating.

  29. Barbed`Wire`Used`Properly`Can`Be`A`Beautiful`Sight`Teabag permalink
    January 9, 2019 10:47 am

    l don`t doubt your young co-workers zombies exist reb; hypnotized by their iproduct screen; but l think it is a case of primate see, primate do. Their parents can`t go to the fcuking supermarket for 20 minutes without having to waffle on the mobile. l had one tunc nearly end up road kill in the carpark. Twice. While waffling on her mobile, about 40year old. l really don`t have a clue why any of these parents think some toddler, kinder, primary school kid needs 24/7 access to internetPorn. The kiddies are really just the product of facebook zombies that think giving away all their personal data to zuck was a good idea.

  30. TB Queensland permalink
    January 9, 2019 11:11 am

    Why Millenials can’t afford to buy a home … (one reason anyway)

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/marriage/bridezilla-slammed-for-aggressive-savethedate/news-story/d99a38b136fbfdd81d7e0239e3ff2aad

    The Minister and I were married in a methodist church (now a kindy) … our reception was a a tiny club my Mum was a member of … catered by family and friends … entertainment by my (then) band … and a quick two minute drive around the lagoon to our flat …

    That marriage is into its 51st year and we bought our first home three years after the wedding … second 11 years later (owned the first) and lived here for 35 years … (owned for 30) … our first overseas trip I turned 50 on the Nile …

    Different generations, different expectations, different lifestyles … thanks yanks … 🙂

  31. Barbed`Wire`Used`Properly`Can`Be`A`Beautiful`Sight`Teabag permalink
    January 9, 2019 2:43 pm

    l wonder how many times highway signage is outsauced in boltsville; and how many skims get taken to reach their current third world level.

  32. TB Queensland permalink
    January 9, 2019 7:31 pm

    … how many skims get taken to reach their current third world level.

    You’re becoming more lucid by the comment, tbagz …

    From now on every time we go up (or down) the highway, when we come to a sign we’ll all shout – “DUCK!” (only in Melbourne – at the moment)

    Just checked the story, empathy for the family of the lady injured and her family …

    Sue the bastards!

  33. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 9, 2019 8:58 pm

    lucid

    You’re always so diplomatic TB

  34. TB Queensland permalink
    January 9, 2019 10:29 pm

    LOL!

  35. Barbed`Wire`Used`Properly`Can`Be`A`Beautiful`Sight`Teabag permalink
    January 9, 2019 10:31 pm

    The short odd bet is that sign is NOT the only one teebz. How many more? and where? have budget skimmed signs been placed. Not just restricted to boltsville either. These things usually take time to develop; that sign did not go up today or yesterday; it will be `one` of a series of signs (and other constructions) to be using cheap dodgey failing component/s (bracket,joiner,bolt).

    Remember; AxBxC equals X and if X is less than the cost of a recall; We don`t do one.

  36. Shane in QLD permalink
    January 10, 2019 5:05 am

    The LNP in Cahoot with irrigators are environmental vandals. The terrible consequences of their actions and Images they will not be able to escape, are now arriving at their doorstep and they are terrified of even meeting with the voters. I hope they are thrown out in a big way. There is no balance anymore just greed and theft.

  37. Barbed`Wire`Used`Properly`Can`Be`A`Beautiful`Sight`Teabag permalink
    January 10, 2019 7:24 am

    There is an algae bloom/ fish kill on the west coast too shane. l reckon the hawksbury will have one soon; if it doesn`t have one already. lt is usually the first to algae bloom and often quite persistent. All the damn farms fertilizer runoff sets this shit off.

    ____

    That footage of the sign in boltsville dropping on the car is so hypnotic, l can`t not look. That chick was so damn lucky. Also we are lucky that the following car had a dashcam.

    ____

    Between opal tower, dropping sign and river/s full of dead fish; l reckon we are looking exactly like a third world country.

  38. shaneinqld permalink
    January 10, 2019 8:21 am

    Teabag

    I think putting up road signs has also been outsourced these days to private contractors 😉

  39. Barbed`Wire`Used`Properly`Can`Be`A`Beautiful`Sight`Teabag permalink
    January 10, 2019 8:40 am

    l just noticed that boltsville sign had a street name; then `essenden` on it. From memory `essenden` is near moonee fcuking ponds. We just lost the opportunity for a blib-free election and blib-free nation. Didn`t the fcuking sign understand that. (-:

  40. Barbed`Wire`Used`Properly`Can`Be`A`Beautiful`Sight`Teabag permalink
    January 10, 2019 8:50 am

    For certain shane; road-depts (and signs) are all contracted out; obviously without due diligence sometimes. On my abc they say all thru the night the road-dept has had lots of signs `inspected` (by outsauced inspectors no doubt) since gravity related teabag panic set in. Bet it cost a small fortune.

  41. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2019 5:18 pm

    Interesting, the most democratic counties are Australia, NZ, Scandinavian countries

    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-10/democracy-index-economist-intelligence-unit-2018/10703184

  42. TB Queensland permalink
    January 10, 2019 5:56 pm

    Iceland and Finland are not Scandinavian they are Nordic … what about Canada, or Ireland or Switzerland – you mention none in your comment … are you cherry picking data again?

    Attention to detail and accuracy is important at TGT as well you know …

    There is a pattern to be noted here …

    I think you meant:

    In countries designated as full democratic, the Nordic countries, New Zealand, Canada, Ireland, Australia and Switzerland rate in the top ten …

    Just sayin’ …

    😉

  43. shaneinqld permalink
    January 10, 2019 5:58 pm

    ToM

    According to the link you provided Norway and Iceland are the most democratic countries, while Aust and NZ are the only full democracies in the Asia Pacific Region.

    I would have hoped we would have been higher than 9 although our system seems to be getting trashed and open to corruption and bribery along with entitlement rorting.

  44. TB Queensland permalink
    January 10, 2019 8:29 pm

    Anyone watch Channel 7 News And the report on Private Certifiers?

    I think we can rest our case, shane!

  45. TB Queensland permalink
    January 10, 2019 8:31 pm

    … getting trashed and open to corruption and bribery along with entitlement rorting …

    Bring on the Shorten Government and a Federal ICAC!

  46. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2019 8:32 pm

    It was a general observation TB.

    I think this research demonstrates some room for improvement but not a reason for complaint.

  47. TB Queensland permalink
    January 10, 2019 9:11 pm

    I think this research demonstrates some room for improvement but not a reason for complaint.

    No complaints, ToM, just a learning exercise … you must recall my major? 😉

    NYC 😉

  48. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 10, 2019 11:00 pm

    I see lefties want more govt. Govt spending was approx 19% of GDP in 1972. It is now at 25%, one quarter of the economy. And still not enough govt for some. How much govt is enough?

    Not looking forward to a Shorten govt. Corruption, bribery and entitlement rorting always goes up under labor.

  49. January 11, 2019 12:50 am

    I really cannot comprehend objection to such things as a Federal ICAC, from any non-partisan.

    Seriously.

    All of these cnuts making decisions ‘for us’ need scrutiny, and (more importantly) to know that we are scrutinising them

    I don’t care how many of each/which side fall…Federal ICAC NOW!

  50. January 11, 2019 12:52 am

    Kneel.

    I look forward to you enduring a Shorten Gov.

    As you reap, shall it be…

  51. You`Have`Been`Assimilated`Teabag permalink
    January 11, 2019 2:41 am

    Anybody looking at next clowntown vote as merely teams zombies-v-me-too could be in for a vainglorious shock. l still don`t think knifed kevin07 voters and knifed jooLiar voters will be swinging in behind 17% if they get the option for a quality greenish ethical phelpsish nonRepug indy.

  52. Declare`A`National`Emergency`Teabag permalink
    January 11, 2019 9:11 am

    While l didn`t see the story tb mentions above; the hive of leftists at network7 were banging on about opal tower and building inspectors a few nights earlier thanks to melissa doyle and her team of gravity alarmists. We need conclusive evidence that this so-called gravity actually exists; and isn`t just a hoax perpetuated by the science community. Just because opal tower now leans slightly means nothing. The piza tower has leaned for centuries and has been a great tourist attraction for italy. The public of the right really need to question the leftist intent of destroying what could be our leaning tower tourist attraction. Labor has questions to answer.

  53. Shane in QLD permalink
    January 11, 2019 10:15 am

    The total disregard for taxpayers money by the rightists who claim smaller government and lower taxes while spending our money on themselves and their ideology like pissed and drunkard sailors while slashing anything for the masses is becoming disgusting. The rules are wrong and must be changed to stop this.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jan/11/mathias-cormann-spent-37000-on-flights-in-one-day-to-lobby-for-tax-plan

  54. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2019 10:15 am

    Hi all, hope youse all had good break. I know I did, although, as always, even my relatively long one was too short.

    But, I need to start the year in disagreement with some of the comments here

    Could it be that the generation brought up addicted to hand held devices are suffering from a lack of social skills?

    And a range of similar comments.

    To be fair, it’s an easy line to run, but, to me anyway, the reality is it’s not really the kids being disengaged, just that they are becoming engaged in another manner.

    I’m not saying that, compared to some ‘adults’ (I don’t include myself here, as I am becoming more and more socially awkward and disengaged than I was, but that’s another story) kids ARE socially stilted (mostly). But hasn’t that always been the case? It’s called youth, and it’s wasted on them for a reason. I mean, I look back to my youth, and marvel at the social indiscretions made in the name of learning (and ignorance and selfishness).

    But I digress. ‘Millenials’ and such, to me, have a much broader social circle than we could ever have dreamed of when I was younger. Yes, they are on their phones a lot, but, as has been noted on trains etc, so is everyone. But is that wrong? I caught public transport for years when younger, and, to work and back, my head was almost always lost in a book. As were most peoples. Now, it’s in my phone, where I have either a book, movie, news or social medias. My world has expanded from what it was back then.

    I also know, at least for my kids, that friendships span continents these days. We often see them sitting with their friends, all on their phones, but often, they are all talking with each other THROUGH their phones, and also with a wider group who are not present physically. And even games are a social playground these days, with as much time being spent chatting through Discord etc as playing the actual game. in effect, the games have become the local hangout.

    Personally, I rejoice in this expansion, and also commend these kids who are not only learning social interaction as we did, but with a multitude of options, and challenges to learn along the way.

  55. shaneinqld permalink
    January 11, 2019 10:16 am

    I support true independents, not ones like Pauline Hanson who are simply LNP hard right.

  56. Walrus permalink
    January 11, 2019 10:31 am

    “Anyone watch Channel 7 News And the report on Private Certifiers?”

    Yes………..the previous ALP Government introduced the current laws in relation to private certifiers

  57. Declare`A`National`Emergency`Teabag permalink
    January 11, 2019 11:16 am

    When everybody else here was running down the burnt-batts rabbit hole; l was the only one that pointed out building laws and inspectors were the responsibility of EACH state. l am pointing this out again (to blubbers) that 10000 structures have been wrapped in solidified PETROL across the nation under BOTH zombie and me-too state govts. Not relevant what `introduced` shit-laws when the NEXT lot were too stupid; or too corrupt; or both; to `remove` shit-laws.

  58. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2019 11:28 am

    the previous ALP Government introduced the current laws in relation to private certifiers

    The one with eddie obeid. Explains a lot 😉

  59. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2019 11:32 am

    fyi, there was a good reddit post recently about the Opal Tower issue

    Regulations need to be tightened, and brought back under Government control and responsibility.

  60. shaneinqld permalink
    January 11, 2019 12:29 pm

    TB

    Mate I have no doubt we can rest our case:) and the evidence will simply get larger and larger. However corruption and greed will prevent anything happening like it does so often. Too much money being paid to too may levels of outsourcing and greased palms rather than full time public service staff who can develop a profile and monitor situations.

  61. shaneinqld permalink
    January 11, 2019 12:39 pm

    Tom R

    That reddit link was really interesting and shows how much shit is going to hit the fan in the future due to all this outsourcing and building corruption in the name of greed. The LNP more interested in destroying the building unions than monitoring the real corruption in the building industry. So glad I do not live in a unit or house that has been built in the last 10 years.

  62. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2019 12:55 pm

    The LNP more interested in destroying the building unions than monitoring the real corruption in the building industry

    Unfortunately, as Wally pointed out, the lnp weren’t alone in this, Labor have their fair share of blame too, although, from the messages coming out, it seems they have learnt their lesson (one hopes)

    So many Royal Commissions waiting to happen. They need it into the deregulation of … well everything.

    Industries CANNOT regulate themselves (it seems patently obviously typing out loud)

  63. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2019 12:56 pm

    Mind you, even obeid pales into what some are up to right now

  64. Declare`A`National`Emergency`Teabag permalink
    January 11, 2019 1:10 pm

    Fan fcuking tastic reddit find teamcheerer. Nice to see the engineers admitting the faults too. Not just the blue collar plebs like us. Too bad they didn`t have more to say; particularly the stacking of `no speak english` within some construction outfits that cannot report on the cut corners.

    ____

    l wouldn`t live in `any` of these termite mounds shane; even if l won it in raffle. l`d flog it immediately.

  65. shaneinqld permalink
    January 11, 2019 5:02 pm

    Tom R

    Agree the ALP were not innocent but at least they support a union that investigates these types of matters, not try to destroy it through ideology gone mad.

  66. shaneinqld permalink
    January 11, 2019 5:02 pm

    Teabag

    Neither would I

  67. TB Queensland permalink
    January 11, 2019 7:13 pm

    Yes………..the previous ALP Government introduced the current laws in relation to private certifiers

    So what – get rid of the pricks!

  68. TB Queensland permalink
    January 11, 2019 7:14 pm

    l was the only one that pointed out building laws and inspectors were the responsibility of EACH state.

    No you weren’t …

  69. January 12, 2019 6:07 am

    s?w” Yes l was. And you had tumbled into the echo chamber (-: (-:

    ____

    DW `on way to canadia` (saudi chick holed up in thailand)

    ____

    The building, which cost Australian developer Ecove $165 million to build, was given the green light under the Government’s significant development legislation, which gives major developments a way of side-stepping council approval.

    The legislation was introduced to address the significant housing shortage

    @another big piece of the `co-dependent` corporo-govt corruption jigsaw.

    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-11/opal-tower-to-reopen-for-some-residents/10707392

  70. TB Queensland permalink
    January 12, 2019 10:12 am

    Just to make a point, tbagz …

    “””TB Queensland permalink
    February 19, 2015 9:54 am

    So what will be the reaction of the media, the opposition and indeed the government to the additional 17 mine and construction workers killed in 2014 while those industries contracted markedly?

    Your politicising the issue, TR …

    The insulation scheme was a great concept poorly managed by an incompetent minister (Garrett should have stuck to wailing on stages) and an overconfident PM. Both admitted culpability.

    But the states had greater responsibility being responsible for training – even tho’ we have a national training system it is administered via each states’ Act and Regs … WH&S is also each individual state’s responsibility … registration of contractors is also a state responsibility … the contractors themselves were not charged as I understand it … the RC was indeed a travesty for all concerned and I bet the families are feeling no better because of it …

    However … blaming the Abbott government for deaths in the construction industry (obviously taking notice of the CFMEU campaign) … is no better than the LNP political snottery of a RC…

    WH&S is still a passion of mine … and I’ve been involved in many campaigns to raise awareness of deaths and serious injury* and as you may recall the better part of my career was in training the workforce from the then Qld President of BHP Coal to high school kids about to go to work experience …

    But making safety a political football only makes it worse … more needs to be done in learning and assessment …”””

  71. January 12, 2019 1:20 pm

    Burnt batts happened during the kevin07 era(2007-2009). Take a look at ya`own timestamp. 5-or 6-years later. lf you check the week burnt batts happened (here or maybe coffee blog) you will find a post where everybody was in the echo chamber; and everybody got unhinged with me for telling them they were all wrong and FakeNews were wrong. lt will have a timestamp of 2008, 2009 (2010???). lt stuck in my mind because it was blatant FakeNews, just as feminist jooLiar does, and mh17 has for 4`n a half years (not that im counting). Not from any `team` aspect.

    Seagulls on a chip. l was the chip. (-:

  72. TB Queensland permalink
    January 12, 2019 2:48 pm

    lt will have a timestamp of 2008, 2009 (2010???).

    You find it …

    I’ve worked with the Qld WH&S legislation since 1979 why would I suddenly “not know” who was responsible …

    Watch that chip doesn’t get too big …

  73. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 12, 2019 9:05 pm

    That seemed to be a lively discussion 5+ years ago.

  74. January 13, 2019 2:29 am

    Legacy outlets aborting FakeNews attempt for their echo chamber. (-:

    ___

    You`re self-identifying again, wrongly, defending self-impressive trainy trainy papers and chasing yourself down your own rabbit hole. l made no claim that you didn`t or did “not know” ohs in the (at blubbers) comment above.

  75. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 13, 2019 2:51 pm

    I don’t really care which day we have Australia Day, bu 26 Jan is too Sydney-centric

    As for citizenship ceremonies, I don’t think local councils should use them for a political statement. Seeking citizenship should involve more than just turning up. It should involve a commitment to things like –
    * Support of the democratic system
    * Acceptance of the rule of law

    Seeking citizenship should be as important as a job application

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/scott-morrison-pushes-to-make-citizenship-ceremonies-compulsory-on-australia-day-20190113-p50r2o.html

  76. Tom R permalink
    January 13, 2019 4:49 pm

    We need to change the date. It has become obvious in retrospect that it was done as another troll against our Indigenous population by the usual suspects.

    We should get it back to the original imo

    http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2015/07/27/4281586.htm

    We won’t, cos ‘the bbq’, but we a really lacking a break at that time of year too (mid winter)

    Either way, it’s got to change …………………… again. This time hopefully for the last time.

  77. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 13, 2019 5:17 pm

    I’d prefer 1 January, the date of federation.

  78. Tom R permalink
    January 13, 2019 6:20 pm

    Do you think the date of federation is very inclusive of the Aborigines?

  79. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 13, 2019 7:00 pm

    Well I think it’s better than some single use fund raising day. I don’t think the date of federation excludes anyone, unless you can point out how.

    I’m not particularly bothered though, 27 May was the date of the 1967 referendum . I’d be happy with that too, but I doubt whether that date would be a popular choice.

    However, I don’t think ANZAC Day is suitable. And that can stand on it’s own as a commemoration.

  80. TB Queensland permalink
    January 13, 2019 7:21 pm

    I don’t care about the date for Australia Day … I’d like to know what date the First People recommend?

    I think Federation Day date is a no … for most folks there wouldn’t be much day left!

    ANZAC no … a remembrance day is different … Australia Day is a day of celebration … and should not be combined …

    Get the Queen to nominate a day … she’s Head of State … NO … hate committees but a if we could get a group consisting of First People, Immigrants and, say, First Born Aussies … or whatever? ie a wide representation … of US …

    I like this concept:

  81. TB Queensland permalink
    January 13, 2019 8:52 pm

    The prime minister hit back at the Labor leader for not immediately backing the move, which he says is common sense.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jan/13/scott-morrison-forces-councils-to-hold-citizenship-ceremonies-on-australia-day

    Common sense? Please explain … is it common-sense? Or commonsense?

    Unfortunately SloMo no-one has commonsense, common-sense, common sense … its a fucking non-sense, nonsense, none sense word!

    When you were born you couldn’t wipe you’re arse … but you’d say it was common sense … now …

    All of us have learned knowledge, skill and experiences … NOTHING is COMMONSENSE!

    Its a hideaway phrase or a defensive phrase – particularly for managers and supervisors avoiding responsibility! And more particularly when its a WH&S issue – “they should have known – its common sense” !

  82. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 13, 2019 9:38 pm

    I don’t think councils should run political agendas about citizenship. 26 January is currently Australia Day. Councils have to cop it.

    But, I’m entirely happy with another day!

  83. TB Queensland permalink
    January 14, 2019 12:15 am

    I don’t think councils should run political agendas about citizenship

    Agree, nor should the Prime Preacher …

  84. January 14, 2019 1:35 am

    Its a ” hideaway phrase or a defensive phrase; particularly for managers and supervisors avoiding responsibility! And more particularly when its a WH&S issue ”

    @For managers, boardrooms, supervisors and others occupying seats or positions of power; l absolutely agree that `commonsense` is a piss poor answer, excuse, response to anything they are questioned about; especially 1.underlings seeking proper knowledge; and; 2.seniors seeking accountibility. However; most primates are not part of the power structure. For those primates commonsense, self-evident and bleedin`obvious are part of their common language as they observe the higher ranked circus. Working Example. There are some primates, no matter what the topic, will always come down on the side of `wealth` or the perceived `most powerful` in the debate; and usually abdicate thinking `for-self` in the process. We can see this played out nationally as the corporo-political structure follows the `failed-yank blue-print`. War on drugs; tuff on crime; work for dole; private health; outsauced inspectors and many more are all proven yank blue print failures. Bleedin`obvious, common sense, self evident failure to those of us that paid attention.

    ____

    SAN DIEGO (KUSI) .. Thursday`s report of CNN declining to hear from KUSI`s Dan Plante quickly went viral online. The post was spread by people all over the country and it even was posted by President Trump.

    @CNN called a San Diego news station (@KUSINews) for negative reports on the Wall. When the station said that Walls work, CNN no longer had interest. #FakeNews pic.twitter.com/IDyXqmDsPq

    __ Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 11, 2019

    ORIGINAL STORY: CNN requests KUSI for local view on the border, declines our reporter after finding out wall works

    https://www.kusi.com/kusi-news-gets-a-shoutout-from-the-president-of-the-united-states/

    @since the pilot episode cnn has been shooting itself in the head and making foxtard look sane

  85. Tom R permalink
    January 14, 2019 7:22 am

    Yomm, with Federation came the White Australia Policy

  86. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 14, 2019 8:20 am

    I suppose the first federal parliament reflected a range of views that seemed suitable for the times. Just as the current one does.

    That’s an insufficient reason in my opinion.

    There should be a national day, and the date of federation seems most suitable to me.

  87. Tom R permalink
    January 14, 2019 9:00 am

    suitable for the times.

    It lasted almost 80 years ffs

    We have too much bad history. imo, we cannot have a national day until we acknowledge and rectify OUR mistreatment of the Aboriginal people (there is probably a more exhaustive list, but this MUST come first)

    Otherwise, it will always be Invasion Day.

  88. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 14, 2019 9:45 am

    I’d prefer not to simply leave a national day as a Sydney-centric celebration

    Celebrating the day Australia became a single country makes sense to me.

    I’m very supportive of indigenous reconciliation but I don’t think we have to delay moving the day until we rectify every wrong

  89. January 14, 2019 10:08 am

    The first clowntown business this year that a properly functioning press pack should be tackling is; 1.the scribbling away of citizens rights by zombies and me-too before last years close; and; 2.phelps boatie bill that was timed out by filabustering. Thanks to greenist and pinkists that didn`t do their due diligence by getting the 300ish tribes to come back to them with the `actual` date they want them to fight for; all they have done is provided the zombies with their hysteric Aust-day `defenders of the faith` distraction which the zombies are already leading the FakeNews outlets by the nose with; and feeding the usual echo chambers.

  90. Shane in QLD permalink
    January 14, 2019 10:28 am

    ToM

    I just think that January 1 as the date would ensure that the Australia Day side of things would be lost in the New Years Day celebrations.

    I think there should be a number of dates proposed and then let voters decide.

    How about 3 March when the Australia Act come into force that made us truly independent from the UK.

  91. January 14, 2019 10:46 am

    What is really important now is; the zombies work the greenist and pinkists into such a lather that; in their over stimulation they trade away a paid public holiday; so of course Jan.01 fits the program.

  92. TB Queensland permalink
    January 14, 2019 11:04 am

    … made us truly independent from the UK.

    Truly independent? I don’t think so …

  93. Tom R permalink
    January 14, 2019 11:14 am

    Truly independent?

    Yea, who’s our head of state again?

  94. January 14, 2019 12:12 pm

    Otherwise, ” it will always be Invasion Day. ” @say the greenist and pinkists correctly. But look at the conundrum they have thrown themselves into. There is only 350ish other dates (not xmas, easter, newyears) that don`t have other `events` booked and drown out Aust-day. Of those 350ish remaining days; and once they consult the 300ish tribes; just how many dates are there that won`t attract the `local-invasion-day` label; or other labels like chained-slave day; rape-day; murder day; kidnap day; massacre day; genocide day; nukietest guinee pig day. The greenist and pinkists on the ground will `endlessly` continue to be disappointed on this matter because their team leaders have no where near the levels of `ability` (of all types) to resolve the matter any time soon. So it will remain a club for the zombies to thump them with.

  95. Tom R permalink
    January 14, 2019 12:27 pm

    just how many dates are there that won`t attract the `local-invasion-day` label;

    fer the slow of understandment

    “imo, we cannot have a national day until we acknowledge and rectify OUR mistreatment of the Aboriginal people (there is probably a more exhaustive list, but this MUST come first)”

  96. shaneinqld permalink
    January 14, 2019 1:07 pm

    TB and ToM R

    Ok point taken , but I think it is a good date as it made us more independent, not totally, is that ok

  97. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 14, 2019 1:08 pm

    we cannot have a national day until we acknowledge and rectify OUR mistreatment of the Aboriginal people

    We already have a national day – 26 January, whether or not you accept it. There is a century/generations of effort required to rectify the mistreatment/dispossession of aboriginal people. I don’t think the issues are necessarily sequential.

  98. shaneinqld permalink
    January 14, 2019 1:12 pm

    ToM R

    Didn’t Kevin Rudd say sorry ?
    Are you using the word rectify to mean reimbursement or compensation ?

    Now don’t go off the handle I am being devils advocate.

  99. shaneinqld permalink
    January 14, 2019 1:19 pm

    ToM

    Yes we do already have a national day, but it would be nice if it was a day we could agree on, not just white old men and women. After all it has only been this day since 1994.

  100. Tom R permalink
    January 14, 2019 1:22 pm

    Didn’t Kevin Rudd say sorry ?

    And at the same time, supported the Intervention (which you will recall was all built on lies)

    It would have been a good place to start, but our actions since diminish it.

  101. January 14, 2019 2:12 pm

    we ” cannot have a national day until ” @bullshit, we have one already.

    until ” we acknowledge ” @sorryDay?

    and ” rectify OUR mistreatment ” @generally speaking teamcheerer, l agree, (300ish tribes)

    a ” more exhaustive list ” @correct (300ish tribes)

    but ” this MUST come first ” @really? Do all 300ish tribes demand this? Or is this greenist and pinkist white folk dumping all tribes into one generic tribe? Pretending that one generic tribe all suffered identical abuse; need identical `rectifyings` is false. Pretending the duopoly or greenist leadership have any ability to solve anything; including tribe affairs; is false too.

  102. Tom R permalink
    January 14, 2019 2:32 pm

    Aborigines have been railing against the date of Australia day since it begun being held on that date

    And, try to write with some English understanding, it’s not usually worth bothering attempting to interpret you

  103. January 14, 2019 3:04 pm

    Teamcheerer wants `another` date set. Teamcheerer wants various un-specified pre-conditions (rectifyings) met `before` date can be set. Teamcheerer setting self up for failure. Teamcheerer has delusional belief in various leaderships. Plain enough?

  104. Try`Again`Teabag permalink
    January 14, 2019 3:06 pm

    Teamcheerer wants `another` date set. Teamcheerer wants various un-specified pre-conditions (rectifyings) met `before` date can be set. Teamcheerer setting self up for failure. Teamcheerer has delusional belief in various leaderships. Plain enough?

  105. Tom R permalink
    January 14, 2019 3:28 pm

    The ColouredCartonCounter wants to keep plodding on regardless of the hurt caused or the ignorance maintained

    Some Invasion Day reading for you

    https://meanjin.com.au/essays/11312/

  106. Try`Again`Teabag permalink
    January 14, 2019 3:41 pm

    January ” 14, 2019 3:28 pm ” @your whole comment shows you didn`t actually read the previous comments dummy; you just skimmed and went into `teamDefence` without comprehending. Caught out. (-:

  107. Tom R permalink
    January 14, 2019 3:52 pm

    without comprehending.

    yor inane blatherings. Of course not

    And I have explained to you before about this.

    Don’t whinge to me if I’ve missed some cryptic meaning within yor blatherings. Write in English, or stop yer whinging

  108. TB Queensland permalink
    January 14, 2019 4:20 pm

    Write in English, or stop yer whinging

    Hear! Hear!

    Attempting to decipher comments 3:04 and 3:06 … is like unscrambling Scrabble form a couple of five year olds …

    Or Yoda’s retarded brother …

  109. Tom R permalink
    January 14, 2019 4:22 pm

    Yoda’s retarded brother

    😆

  110. ivi permalink
    January 14, 2019 4:27 pm

    (Caaaaaaaaaaaaarp!)

  111. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 14, 2019 5:41 pm

    Yoda’s retarded brother

    That seems a little unfair to Yoda

  112. TB Queensland permalink
    January 14, 2019 7:02 pm

    Apparently I’v already said LOL! So LOL! Again! WordPress!

  113. TB Queensland permalink
    January 14, 2019 7:14 pm

    Not sure how to reply to ivi … aaaaaaaaaaa … I get it … I know who ivi is … duh!

    I have a lot of empathy for our First People … and because of that I will not accept responsibility for the present … this IS a two way street … but consecutive governments do not seem to understand the concept of:

    Feed a village for a week … or show the village how to feed itself …

    And I’ve done a lot of work in the bush … just out West … and I’ve met some very smart Aboriginal folk … they want to be part of the nation – BS they are the nation …

    I reckon we should declare our First People – Custodians of Australia … They belong to the Land … They are the Land … and we combine science and tradition to educate, train and develop our First People to manage National Parks, Waterways and Coastal Regions (including the Great Barrier Reef) … and here’s the rub … with Absolute Control!*

  114. Try`Again`Teabag permalink
    January 14, 2019 7:23 pm

    Wow! That`s a mighty fine echo chamber you`ve got there TC (-:

    ___

    with Absolute Control!* @ditto

  115. TB Queensland permalink
    January 14, 2019 8:03 pm

    WTF is TC?

  116. You`Have`Been`Assimilated`Teabag permalink
    January 15, 2019 5:01 am

    (Troooooooooout!!)

  117. Tom R permalink
    January 15, 2019 8:21 am

    What’s happening with the MDB is a travesty, and it is mainly due to human greed, nothing else.

    I wonder from that article TCB what time in 2013 the strategy was ‘shelved’, and why?

  118. shaneinqld permalink
    January 15, 2019 9:30 am

    What a sneaky pathetic NSW government they have, just read how they planned to drain part of the lakes dry. The secrecy, lies and deceit are really getting out of hand now even to the extent of contempt for the senate. How anyone in their right mind could vote for this criminal LNP is now totally beyond me. They all need to be locked up and the keys thrown away.Fucking reduced evaporation toward covering a shortfall. The mob of utter cnuts.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jan/15/murray-darling-fish-kill-greens-accuse-coalition-of-hiding-information-from-senate

    “The NSW government can then count the water savings from reduced evaporation toward covering its shortfall of 345GL of water that it still needs to meet its obligations under the Murray Darling basin plan to deliver 1,312GL of water to the environment.”

  119. shaneinqld permalink
    January 15, 2019 1:00 pm

    NSW Government . Shitting itself now in total panic.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jan/15/lake-hume-fish-kill-thousands-of-new-deaths-on-murray-river

  120. Tom R permalink
    January 15, 2019 3:06 pm

    I see that the AFP are unable to convict a criminal. Auspol 2019 (carrying on from where we left in 2018)

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2019/01/15/michaela-cash-bill-shorten-awu/

    “While I respect the independence of the AFP and CDPP, it has to be said that it is very disappointing that no charges are to be laid in a matter where Senator Cash confirmed to the Senate that a staffer confessed to a crime,”

  121. Tom R permalink
    January 15, 2019 3:16 pm

    Although, it might not be the AFP in this instance. The libs have our law enforcement stacked to the rafters

  122. CNN`called`a`San`Diego`news`station`For`Negative`Reports`on`the`Wall`Teabag permalink
    January 15, 2019 4:01 pm

    With multiple fish kills; opal tower returning to a construction site for structural repairs; another 10,000 structures wrapped in grenfell inferno-cladding; and plod not prosecuting political criminals; does anybody seriously think our corrupt duopoly will actually `fix` anything.

  123. Tom R permalink
    January 15, 2019 4:23 pm

    Yes, because Labor introduced the much maligned and now ignored MDB plan, which the farmers, (and libs) railed against

    Seems they were correct.

  124. TB Queensland permalink
    January 15, 2019 4:56 pm

    And an ICAC would help …

  125. TB Queensland permalink
    January 15, 2019 5:33 pm

    And re government services being privatised – one the worst sell offs was the Labour Exchanges … unemployment was handled in a far more efficient and effective way by having a central focus tied to regional needs … now we have a mish mash of recruitment businesses sucking on the Federal teat and useless, compulsory “how to get a job” “training” … by amateurs who would have trouble getting a real job themselves …

    Still it made Mr & Mrs Rudd a motza!

  126. TB Queensland permalink
    January 15, 2019 10:18 pm

    Relevance deprivation syndrome

    That sound very intelechual, ToM … WevaTF it means … I think I agree … Oakshott was a decision making loose cannon …

  127. Barbed`Wire`Used`Properly`Can`Be`A`Beautiful`Sight`Teabag permalink
    January 16, 2019 2:22 am

    Mr ” Oakeshott said the recent success of Independent Kerryn Phelps in the Wentworth by-election showed him he had a chance at a return to Federal Parliament.

    Mr “ Oakeshott believed there was a mood for change across the nation, and within his local region, where he believed his experience in politics would count when it came to his opposition.

    @oakey has the potential to romp in. Hope he does as it will be one less seat for the duopoly.

  128. January 16, 2019 3:08 am

    Mr ” Oakeshott said the recent success of Independent Kerryn Phelps in the Wentworth by-election showed him he had a chance at a return to Federal Parliament.

    Mr “ Oakeshott believed there was a mood for change across the nation, and within his local region, where he believed his experience in politics would count when it came to his opposition.

    @oakey has the potential to romp in. Hope he does as it will be one less seat for the duopoly.

  129. January 16, 2019 3:12 am

    Oakshott ” was a decision making loose cannon ” @example? @can you really find an example that will outdo the duopoly?

    !

    Or just echo chamber?

  130. January 16, 2019 3:55 am

    Sorry folks for the multi/double comments. At the moment w0rdpress seems to enjoy `punking` me.

  131. Shane in QLD permalink
    January 16, 2019 5:08 am

    While Oakshotts speech when deciding on Julia Gillard was oh so painful. He is a far better person and politician than the utter shit we have in there at the moment. Rather a boring orator with some empathy than a pack of lying bastards out to fuck everything including the environment with sell offs, outsourcing and creating more and more wealth gap.

  132. Tom R permalink
    January 16, 2019 8:56 am

    Relevance deprivation syndrome

    Are you referring to Oakshott or you?

    Sorry folks for the multi/double comments.

    yea, but which ones in particular?

  133. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 16, 2019 8:58 am

    Oakshott is a conceited windbag. But that seems to be the main criteria for a politician.

  134. Tom R permalink
    January 16, 2019 9:04 am

    Interesting article on the pure bastard politics being played by the libs, the greens, and Adani. And Labor is stuck well and truly in the middle.

    The greens are the worst, as they play the pretense that it is all for the good of the country, but again, are oblivious to the (possible) financial impact

    https://insidestory.org.au/adanis-potemkin-village/

  135. Tom R permalink
    January 16, 2019 9:14 am

    But that seems to be the main criteria for a politician.

    hmm, I feel a new career beckoning 🙂

  136. shaneinqld permalink
    January 16, 2019 9:22 am

    Oakshott may be a bit conceited but he has nothing on the mob in there at the moment and at least he has empathy, something lacking in the lot at the top at the moment.

  137. Tom R permalink
    January 16, 2019 9:26 am

    something lacking in the lot at the top at the moment.

    Morals?
    Brains?
    Compassion?
    Charity?
    Principles?

    Where to start? 😦

  138. shaneinqld permalink
    January 16, 2019 3:20 pm

    And they wonder why there is no fucking water.

    “Cubbie Station is licensed to take 460 Billion litres from the Darling each year.
    The same amount as all the water in Sydney Harbour.”

  139. TB Queensland permalink
    January 16, 2019 8:58 pm

    DITCH WATER GREEDY COTTON AND GROW MORE HEMP!

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/what-is-hemp-2018-5

    And who PAYS these politicians and public servants to allow cotton farmers to suck the nations life giving arteries … to death?

    The Cotton Industry … a blight on our national agriculture, akin to tobacco!

  140. TB Queensland permalink
    January 16, 2019 9:04 pm

    Cubbie Station has been an abortion of business greed since it opened …

    Cubbie Station, the largest irrigation property in the southern hemisphere, is located near Dirranbandi, in south west Queensland, Australia. The station comprises 96,000 hectares (240,000 acres) and is managed by the Lempriere Group, on behalf of CS Agriculture, a joint venture between Lempriere and Shandong Ruyi, a textile manufacturer owned by investors from China and Japan.

    The station has significant water rights to flows along the Culgoa River, within the Murray-Darling basin.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubbie_Station

  141. TB Queensland permalink
    January 16, 2019 9:04 pm

    “investors from China and Japan” … the commercial invasion continues!

  142. TB Queensland permalink
    January 17, 2019 12:06 pm

    Wattawewant – FEDERAL ELECTION!

    Wendowewannit! – NOW!

    OK, SloMo, you know what the people want … ya reckon … so go to the polls NOW!

    ‘Cause that’s what the majority of Aussies want … oh, wait! I see! 🙂

  143. Barbed`Wire`Used`Properly`Can`Be`A`Beautiful`Sight`Teabag permalink
    January 17, 2019 5:35 pm

    Quaint guardian socialist utopia dream.

    ____

    l`m pretty sure cubby has dug huge lakes in their paddocks and built huge levy/s preventing flood waters flowing thru to their downstream neighbors shane. Pack of tuncs.

  144. Shane in QLD permalink
    January 18, 2019 6:56 am

    Royal Commission into aged care.Once again an RC into something privatised and outsourced to contractors in a claim to save money. Allowing the elderly to be treated like a commodity. Well done Bronwyn Bishop and John Howard, you two will never experience what so many elderly and their families have as a result of the greed in the industry since it was privatised. May you both rot in hell.

    The ideology of privatisation is coming back to haunt us again and again.

  145. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 18, 2019 8:42 am

    Shane, when was aged care privatised? That sector has always been a combination of private, church/charitable and government.

  146. shaneinqld permalink
    January 18, 2019 12:32 pm

    It was outsourced and privatised under Howard and Bronwyn Bishop

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