It’s On: Election 2019!

No idea how submarines are procured by the government TB.

So, even given the figures you’ve posted, how much were you willing to cough up for a car subsidy?

Australia used to manufacture over 50% of vehicles sold here. At the time of it’s demise I think it was about 20%. People just didn’t want those cars, despite the subsidy.

Tom of Melbourne

By the end of Labors term in 2013 locally made cars had crashed to only 10% of the market. Take away fleet car sales eg taxis, local govt etc, nobody was buying aussie made cars. No wonder they left.

There should be an investigation why that happened because the automakers were getting billions in subsidies

https://www.business.gov.au/Assistance/Automotive-Transformation-Scheme

“The ATS has two stages as follows:
Stage 1 – capped assistance of $1.5 billion from 2011 to 2015 and
Stage 2 – capped assistance of $1 billion from 2016 to 2020.”

$1.5 B from 2011-2015 is $375M/year

https://www.caradvice.com.au/269528/end-of-australian-made-cars-what-happened-and-what-it-means/

“Australian-made vehicles overall totalled nearly 250,000 in 2005 but had more than halved by 2013 (118,510).”

There were 1.1M cars sold in 2013. And only 118K of those were made in Australia. Locally made car sales crashed under labor. When Ford announce they were leaving when Gillard was PM the industry was dead

TomR

Telling lies helps nobody. Ford was not booted out. They announced they were leaving when Gillard was PM. That was it. The industry was dead

Calling humans like you evil is an understatement. TomR you have no ethics, morals or a conscience. telling lies is your natural state

have “ no minimum Aussie component. Sold down the river on that one too.” @correct

Not ” that we could support that sort of industry once they booted the cars out.” @agree, assembling `imported components` is Low-end and not the same level of bang-for-bucks as high-end, fully made here items.

subsidies ” on 12 submarines will keep 4,000 people employed .. Oh bugger that`s in France” @everything l`ve seen, once the canoe building is up and running, it will provide Le-frogs with 9000 to 13000 jobs, not junkjobs either, full time, well paid jobs. Generating zero tax receipts for clowntown. @own.goal @-l can`t see blib stooten being able to reverse this either.

Yes, I saw it on TV!! That’s when I decided it was disgraceful!

And Tony for opposition leader!! Great, that’s a party going places!!

We’re now in pre-election caretaker mode TB.

But the ALP is using a state government to circumvent that convention

How will front yard signage differentiate the teams on this. As slomo instantly promised macron le-frog big taxpayer funded donations to rebuild incinerated house of skyfairy, blib stooten immediately went me-too, me-too. The vatican has more than enough to build and rebuild all the houses their fluttering skyfairy could ever need. But it looks like both teams are prepared to piss away some of our treasury on offshore skyfairy dwelling. @fcuk.em.both

Me either. l`m pretty sure each state can decide what their own interests are and lobby them. Highly doubtful anti corruption watchdog is needed, most likely you know who can`t tell the difference whether state treasury, state team or other interest group paid for them anyway, wouldn`t notice when the teabags have done the same either.

You would hope that this is the nail in a very corrupt coffin

If we could just make it legal to pay people the same (minimum) rate any day of the year regardless, your troubles would be cured.

Although, to me, that’s simply another reason to restore the penalty rates 😉

Russians weren`t waiting for Robert Mueller`s report with quite the same excitement as Americans. Russian state media`s coverage of Donald Trump`s campaign and presidency has vacillated between breathless adoration, mockery and outrage, but one thing has been consistent: The idea of Russia electing and controlling an American president has always been deemed absurd. Most references to the Mueller inquiry and the Trump-Russia story in state media are preceded by a qualifier: “the so-called Russia investigation,” as the prominent TV host Dmitry Kiselyov puts it. It`s not just the state media that has rejected the idea that Mr. Trump colluded with Russia. Even liberals and opponents of President Vladimir Putin have been deeply skeptical, pointing out that Russia`s ruling circles are barely competent enough to prop themselves up, let alone manipulate a superpower.

You know who doesn`t comprehend ; Leadership needs to come from the top. @chortle

Yep… them Catlicks cause so many problems…

Hundreds killed, 450 injured as explosions rock Catholic churches during Easter mass

https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/scores-hurt-in-sri-lanka-easter-church-bombings-20190421-p51fyn.html

I wonder whether that is true of the overt anti catlick comments

Or the fact that the doctrine is heavily influenced and controlled by pedophiles?

I see our inHouse catlick pedofile defender is fluttering on behalf of his skyfairy again. That`s mighty white of you. Too bad you you haven`t worked out that skyfairy extremists are as bad as whitepower extremists.

(everybody at rolling stone had fishing poles yet nobody hooked the clownhaired cod) (-:

No, that was your comment TB, and if I could be bothered , I’d find it.

But the point is that anti immigration/Muslim/right comments are blamed for enabling the terrorist in Christchurch and I’m asking why anti catlick comments haven’t enabled this terrorist act.

And TB, you reserve your most vitrolic comments for catlicks, rather than all religions

l am not a teabag .. l am not a catlick ..

Null?

Our msm cheersquad are getting pretty desperate.

Good

Of course the Legacy outlets are full of crap teamcheerer.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2019/guide/higg/

Look at all the noise they are making about safe zombies seats at risk. That link is higgins, the retiring odwyer critters seat. lts been blue for 40 years, l reckon there is fcuk all chance of it changing. Same with joshs seat nearby, another 40 year blue seat.

Hey genius, italic quoting doesn`t mean much without a link. @justsayin

Via tbs limitednews ; Morrison hit back at the people who had mocked him in an extraordinary spray. “There was another one, another group, who was likening my praise in my own church on the weekend to some sort of Hitler salute,” @yes, that`s what l thougt too ; meta dropped the photo link above at April 22, 2019 2:19 pm.

He(slomo) faced awkward questions on another subject though ; specifically, the fact that Clive Palmer`s incessant TV ads and billboards seem to be working. A Newspoll of four marginal seats out today shows a surge in support for Mr Palmer`s United Australia Party. The UAP recorded a stunning primary vote of 14 per cent in the Queensland seat Herbert, where its candidate is former State of Origin player Greg Dowling.

@there must be plenty of `blo` in herbert. l`m sure dowling was one of the nrl gang of snorters busted in southport a few years ago. @yaaay.team

wordpress..com ” has chosen the 12 newsrooms that will help shape Newspack, the core business platform for small and medium-sized news organizations. Newspack is a project of WordPress..com and its parent” https://newspack.blog/ @looks like the Legacy outlets will shed more viewers and it will be all twitters fault!

There is no doubt theRonald `show` will be spectacular in 2020 (and featuring favorite guests `lock her up`, build the wall and drain the swamp), but l`m expecting the zelensky `show` fresh from the ukraine to top the ratings.

With all the lies being spread about death taxes, here’s trip down memory lane.

Why do the left disdain volunteers? This example is particularly poor taste, just a day after 2 volunteer lifesavers died trying to rescue a tourist, GetUp releases an advert putting shit on Abbott via him being a volunteer lifesaver.

https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/federal-election-2019-live-tuesday-april-23/live-coverage/82165f0ba712455266a78bb5b1a0cbd7

Let me guess teamcheerer ; blib stooten is saying `there will be no death tax under a govt l lead` (-:

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Did everybody see reportland tonight ; cracker story on wireCo ; the area with fiber to user works perfectly ; everywhere else, folks aint getting what they pay for, but problems.

Even the organization representing volunteer lifesavers has condemned the ad.

GetUp are up themselves.

By the way, I joined because I like being on the mailing list.

I see Bill Shorten’s sport at the hugely expensive catlick school – Xavier College- was sabre fencing.

Was that Star Wars inspired? It’s an unusual choice, and an exclusive choice at an exclusive school.

Is fencing provided at the local public high school? Only the chiicken wire type.

Is the frontyard signage up to scratch this year!

l don`t have any indy`s to back this time round, only 4-options. 1-greenz ; 2-clivez ; 3-teabag ; 4-dishwater. l saw the local teabag some years ago, fcuking hopeless, but somehow team dishwater managed to find a bigger dud, so l`ve switched my arse end vote sequence from usual, as l don`t like the dishwater dud blib stooten is trying to shove down my throat. (saw it live last week) At least we have a `clivez` to frighten the zombies with.

I know all that teebz. Unfortunately l`m in a deep teabag blue electorate and won`t change. This election l just get to stick my hand in the main sewer and try and select the firmest turd.

Labor locked up 50,000 boat people from 2008-2013. The only answer i want is how many boat people will labor and their supporters like TB of Queensland lock up next time?

as I ” can see the polls are”

The legacy outlets like to play up that blib stooten will win, to build hope for the pinkist fanbase and scare the teabag fanbase, as it suits and satisfies both psychological profiles. lt will continue to work as long as viewers are not distracted with the last 70 preferred `leader` poles favoring blib stooten.

Kill Bill is alive and well …

You sound desperate TB

You’re very sensitive TB.

I think the ALP uses the “shady ad man” lable about Morrison at every opportunity, but you only notice criticism of Shorten

This HeadLine “ If you vote early, it may cost you more than an election sausage ” is just braindead FakeNews from my Legacy outlet abc. 1.The `on-page` headline is totally different. 2.The `news-value` to viewers is fcuking zero. l strongly believe my abc does NOT need to compete rigorously with LimitedNews for this level of derp.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-28/early-voting-revolution-pre-poll/11046984

@elderly mother and self have already signed-up for postal vote this week and await papers. lf we like this method, we will switch to `always-postal`, so fcuk my abc!

new opinion poll shows voters are pretty unimpressed with the performances of Scott Morrison and Bill Shorten on the campaign trail so far. You can hardly blame them. The most interesting highlights to date have been a reporter(toolman!!) yelling at Mr Shorten. A YouGov Galaxy poll published in The Sunday Telegraph today shows 60 per cent of Australians aren`t pleased with Mr Shorten and 54 per cent aren`t gelling with Mr Morrison. While the Coalition`s hopes are improving, most voters are unimpressed with both leaders. Just 31 per cent were impressed by the Labor leader, while the Prime Minister fared only marginally better with a 38 per cent campaign approval rating.

https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/federal-election-campaign-rolling-coverage-from-the-trail-on-sunday-april-28/news-story/62254e01c88c5f82ab6924d0d77a42c1

l do think ” honesty and early release of”

Nah, disagree big time. Look mate, they failed to clean house after the knifing era and have decided to die the death of 1000 cuts. Take my family, mum used to vote alp, but changed to greenz decades ago, l usually seek an indy. Neither of us voted for kevin07, but once elected we both wanted to vote for kevin10, but instead team dishwater knifed him. So we both stuck with our `usual` vote. We are not `special`, the same thing would have played out in hundreds of households around the country. Then, compounding the problem, team dishwater put the chief `knifer` as the face of the team to continually remind all the knifed voters of getting knifed. lts just a total gift to the `tax-cut`, no policy of any worth zombies. Don`t forget, very few seats tend to change anyway.

no ” issue with the last three PM’s then?” . . . ” how long is a grudge?”

But that`s the continual pretense maintained by the duopoly `and` the legacy outlets (when a voter is subtracted from the deep dishwater red column, then the voter must be added to the deep zombie blue column, while ignoring all other options and circumstances) Even tho prime meddlers are a conga-line of duds.

Take a look at the vote compass crap my abc is peddling on telly. lt mostly pretends a `this`team `that`team choice for `political-consumers`, also known as voters. The last time political consumers bought a deep red prime meddler they were knifed and had no recourse. They are still `weary` of buying another one; just as an auto-consumer would be weary and reluctant to buy a new car from an auto-dealer that sold them a lemon, and had to be taken to court to get the car fixed/refunded etc (politics is just another product, and you need to measure the brand `grudge`, damage etc the SAME way)

Did our pinkists just see clivez address to da press??? He called out blib stooten over lying about team dishwater trying to do pref-deals with clive and their public hypocrisy toward clive while backrooming. So clive went public supplying names and times, and clive will pref da zombies. @own-goal

Yeah, l agree splatters, theRonald is the best `show` in Aust politics. l ust hope we can maintain a prime meddler worth him abusing (-:

Look at the flock of pork landing at the airport splatters!

l`m just glad they could muster up an audience of 48.

I see reports today that UFU leader Peter Marshall is paid over $400k a year. That seems like a good earner for a man of the people.

“I bet he still reckons wireless will save us all”

Where did I say that? But wireless is what people want. And I do not remember going on any cvc merry go round.

Fact is technology is not the problem at the moment. High CVC fees charged by NBNCo means Telcos like TPG, Optus, Telstra do not purchase enough bandwidth slowing speed. People are not even going for the highest speeds u can get with copper because of the cost. I have FTTP and I get nowhere near 100 mbps which u can get with copper

May your local nodes drown regularly stoopid tunc.

Its most likely an `off-cut` of fiber that replaces the telegraphWire, from node, to user. Drowned node, (or hit by car) will take-out both fiber and telegraphwire. The zombies added all the cuts and joints, and the `node` is pretty much a `joiner`box.

But at the moment technology is not the problem.

This is perhaps the dumbest thing you have ever said.

And you have said some absolute corkers

https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2019/march/1551445200/michael-quigley/what-happened-broadband-australia

I know what you said nil

it was stupid

oh, you saw it stated did you nil?

Was this by the same people who said it’d faster, cheaper, sooner? ffs

Coalition said NBN would be cheaper and built sooner using copper. I doubt they said it would be faster. How many brains do u need to work that out? Anybody who believes Quigley about cost needs help. FTTP requires and underground conduit. I suspect that is why i got fibre. I already had an underground conduit

Yes i saw it stated that speeds would be even slower with Labors FTTP

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/labors-nbn-triple-the-costs-and-glacial-speeds/news-story/6699c4a288dc2a402efda86cf93153d2

“Slow connections plaguing the National Broadband Network would have been even worse under Labor’s gold-plated scheme because the costly bandwidth charges that are causing the problem would have been up to three times higher.

The assessment comes from New Street Research’s Ian Martin, who added that if NBN Co had stuck with the former Labor government’s plan the likely losses to taxpayers over the scheme would have been “$50 billion to $60bn”, as opposed to an estimated $30bn under the ­Coalition’s approach.

Mr Martin, who advises institutional investors on telco stocks, said it was not possible to model how slow NBN connections would have been under Labor’s fibre-to-the-premises model, because they would have been so glacial and service costs so high that consumers would have rejected the scheme outright.

Under the original plan bandwidth charges would have to double or triple,” Mr Martin said. “It’s an impossible dream because the market just won’t bear the cost, it wouldn’t work.”

My heart burns for poor retirees who are able to retire at 61 with a boat (at least) and be able to live for ten years comfortably without having to dive into their super at all.

What was the point of Superannuation again? To provide an inheritance for the kids?

https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/the-fury-over-franking-credits/11064834

“My heart burns for poor retirees who are able to retire at 61 with a boat (at least) and be able to live for ten years comfortably without having to dive into their super at all.””

In the unlikely event that the ALP even gets its changes through the Senate there are ways a retiree can continue to pay no tax and still receive tax refunds just by varying their investment mix. It’s relatively simple and yet again simply shows the ALP just cannot think things through.

This policy will not raise the $$$$ the ALP thinks it will

Having just returned from Europe after investing in a Carbon Credits Brokerage company I now welcome the downfall of these neanderthal climate changing deniers in the Coalition.

I am with you comrades bring on international carbon credit trading ASAP

It’s entertaining the way the ALP dismisses the modelling of economist Brian Fisher, and the projected cost.

But the ALP won’t advise of it’s own modelling or cost.

That’s dodgy Bill for you

“…………….no-one should get a tax return if they don’t pay tax ”

There are plenty of welfare recipients who pay negative net tax.

There are plenty of welfare recipients who pay negative net tax.

That’s not getting a tax return, that’s ……. social security.

Calling yourself ‘self funded, whilst living off welfare is just self delusion

Some lite reading for yomm 😉

https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/brian-fisher-modelling-whats-the-story/

That`s all `pie` in sky teamcheerer. Do the maths, blib stooten has 66 seats and `needs` 10 to claim his dishwater govt. Which 10 seats?? All the teabumbkin and teabag seats strongly under threat, (yes the zombies will lose some) are so by indy`s and minors. Even the `indi`electorate looks like it will be successfully handed from mcgowan(indy) to another indy.

I see… so the ALP has a climate policy and has absolutely no idea of its cost or economic impact, other than… it’s not whathe says

And by the way… I’m off on my international surf safari for a couple of months, hope everyone enjoys the misery of whichever party wins!!

From your link to justify child care subsidy…

The 25-year-old earns $49,000 per year — an amount, she says, that forces her to live with her sister.

She’s 25, earns about $1000 per week, shares a house with her sister… and tis is justification for a wage subsidy courtesy of taxpayers, including many that will earn a lot less than her!!

“”That’s not getting a tax return, that’s ……. social security.”

Well lets get rid of Family Tax Benefit A as it in many cases creates a negative tax effect

“”… its not a tax return its a gift from taxpayers to the wealthy “”

Actually that statement is not correct since the wealthy (those on an average tax rate including medicare levy of over 30%) will still get to claim all their tax credits.

The policy only affects those on an average tax rate lower than 30%

I still think it is quite a long shot for voters to believe that the team that last spent their time in power manufacturing an oh so special, special, special, superProfits tax that ultimately raised zero-ish revenue; will actually be competent enough and have the nads to raise the required revenue to deliver their promises. l tend to agree with blubbers that there will be so many `wide`open loop holes remaining open; that wealthy welfare cheques will not be skipped by any.

I don’t think $1000 a week at 25 and living in a share house is such hardship that it requires taxpayers to cough up.

It’s poor policy to take the taxes from someone that is paid an award rate of about $20 an hour and give someone that is paid already paid 30% more than then a taxpayer funded pay increase/subsidy.

I don’t think $1000 a week at 25 and living in a share house is such hardship that it requires taxpayers to cough up.

These are qualified workers, and your measurement of a decent wage for a decent days work is “I don’t think it’s a hardship” (as if you’d even know what that means)

I keep wondering if yomm appeared recently on 7.30 with his yacht and taxpayer subsidised ‘self funding’?

The trouble with the childcare stuff blib stooten is spouting is that it is one of the things the govt pays 10K to biz for; to take work-4-dole `program` (or other program) to continue to fudge so-called `unemployment` numbers. l took my neighbor (on-dole) to library 6,7,8 weeks ago, he showed me the 10K-offer to biz once he logged-in. By doing that; in short; the govt is actively wrecking the ability for a `demand` to be created within childcare industry, just churn `dept-supplied` program slaves. Check it yourself if have any unemployed/ centerlink family or friends. l still think there is so much of the consumer base screwed down, even `fixing` childcare, it won`t produce any economic upside of significance, and still reckon there will be more `slumping` of most of the economy. Keep watching retail.

Pathetic aint it. They`ve also been bleating about team clivez too.

But don`t stop there teebz. (yes, boltsvillage and jonestown DO stadium welfare too) Also lots of slot machines to hoover up truckloads of cash in so-called sports clubs(casinos) with loud claims of generous(minimal) returns to community. And have BOTH teams in pocket.

1. People at the AIS should pay HECS
2. Major sports are non profit (though growth oriented) .
3. Art, theatre, films also receive subsidies, let’s get rid of those ones too!

…just in the airport lounge getting ready to produce a few tons of carbon in pursuit of some meaningful leisure.

“We dropped the subsidy for the car industry and it was far less costly? ”

No we did not. Who told u that? Subsidies are still available

https://www.business.gov.au/assistance/automotive-transformation-scheme
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The Automotive Transformation Scheme (ATS) commenced on 1 January 2011 and will run until 31 December 2020. It aims to encourage competitive investment, innovation and economic sustainability in the Australian automotive industry.

Up to $500,000 a year for players is not – non profit?

Year!! People in the medical profession get paid that too, abd we still hand out cash to the industry.

The film industry gets subsidies, and some actors are paid that.

What’s your point TB?

I see… but you were whinging about how much foitballers get. I’m only pointing out that the government supports a range if high income industries.
* medical
* films
* manufacturing

In football, all the government does is assist in the building and maintenance of a public asset.

Yes TB, the government invests in facilities that people use for various types of leisure and you object!

The subsidy you’re referring to is development of a public asset, that is used for a variety of purposes, including music and sport

I’m in a fairly isolated surf spot – just to tick it off my list!! And it is certainly not tropical!!
Very picturesque though.

Leisure is very productive !!
…surf Tofino!

build a bridge

Okay its done! Here`s ya bridge. lt goes from here to the long grass to make it easier for ya to fetch the sticks the zombies throw into the long grass. Sorry l asked ya something that was `too-hard`.

(Sorry l asked ya something that was `too-hard`.

Dats otay …

“Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future.”

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Speaking of “shady ad man” …… )

“i know a few Holden workers who beg to disagree”

Telling lies again TomR. Beats me why u tell so many lies. When Ford announced they were leaving when Gillard was PM the industry was dead. Coalition was handed a corpse

https://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/gillard-seeks-ford-help-for-workers/news-story/3a0c3870e4ec48b4e81bb7b0340b25fc

PRIME Minister Julia Gillard has called on Ford Australia to chip in to an assistance package to help workers and communities affected by the company’s 2016 shutdown of car making.
Ford announced on Thursday it would shed 1200 workers and close its factories in Victoria in October 2016.

The ABC is facing “inevitable” job cuts and programming disruption if the Morrison government is returned to power, the national broadcaster’s new managing director has warned.

Diddums

https://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/abc-cuts-inevitable-if-coalition-government-returned-managing-director-warns-20190506-p51koc.html

It’s turning into an Eggsellent campaign 🙂

Just in case some missed ivi’s punctuation 😉

pay TV operator “ seen in (at best) a third of households ”

Gotta Link?? to that please teebz. The last numbers l saw (quite a while ago) was paytv was still stagnant in single digit(%) signups which churn 90%+ once the `period` was over.

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Seems there has been some egg-citement with slomo, and viewers finding egg-stra uses for poultry efficiency dividends! (-:

hahahaha

The replies are priceless

barnies own example should be enough to prevent his daughters being ‘promiscuous’

WE MADE EVERYTHING

We Made Some things

now we don’t make anything, because manufacturers can’t work with governments that tell them to piss off!

Maiden Japan?

Hockey; `get the fcuk out or we`ll boot ya out`

Detroit; `okay we`ll go`
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l didn`t watch the `debates` the echo chambers keep bleating about. l already know they`re both duds.

https://www.theage.com.au/federal-election-2019/folau-shouldn-t-suffer-an-employment-penalty-for-views-shorten-says-20190508-p51lgf.html

Interesting… Shorten is sympathetic about Israel Folau not suffering loss of employment for his religious beliefs. Whereas Morrison seems to think the employer is within their rights!

Plenty of anti religious types here will probably think Folau should have his contract terminated. Siding with Morrison!

That’s quite amusing!

(And hello Tony!)

The ALPs argument that this attack the super wealthy is bullshit

Got a bridge for sale too?

“Such a strategy would involve having a balance of Equities and trusts….”

Correct but also dont forget that some major ASX companies pay only partially franked dividends so an excess franking credit could be applied to their dividend as well

“But that’s not going to help this person whose income I think is below the taxable threshold. So in their case the trust distributions would not be taxed anyway?”

That’s true at the zero rate not alot can be done in terms of investment mix.

That’s because anyone below the tax threshold is regarded by the ALP as wealthy

Anyway I doubt it will get through the Senate but as per ALP’s record they will spend the money anyway.

record they will “ spend the money anyway ”

So govt/s collecting tax should merely hoard it in treasury to drool over??

“Hockey; `get the fcuk out or we`ll boot ya out`

Detroit; `okay we`ll go`’

U R a liar like all ALP supporters. Did u read the link? The phone call from Jacoby to head office was going on while Hockey was making his speech. What Hockey said had no effect on what happened

Only a FOOL would believe a large multi national company would up and leave for no reason. U lefties make up stories to sooth your conscience Worse after telling lies and destroying our manufacturing industry u blame anybody but yourselves for the lives u destroy.

If Shorten wins the next election this country deserves all the destruction the next ALP govt will bring

I`m lovin the spectacular OwnGoal from LimitedNews. By attacking his mother, blib stooten has finally gained popularity as a sympathetic character and Could be hammer thrown over the line by ruperts trolls.

Years ago l said trainy trainy had become a ponzi scheme,

`when l was a boy` disagreed,

https://www.abc.net.au/4corners/cash-cows/11084858

Funniest quote I’ve heard all year

“We can deliver these bigger budget surpluses and the bigger investments of health and education while also assuming tax relief going forward,” Mr Bowen said.

That is hilarious…………………..Bigger budget surpluses ROFLMAO

Howard was handed a trashed budget in 1996 with unemployment at 8%. By cutting spending he was running surplus budgets within 12 months. No problems occurred. In fact it lead to the best economic numbers for a generation by 2007.

Has the government cut $14,000,000,000 from public schools?

Misleading – says the ABC fact check

Labor’s claim is misleading — again.

Under the Coalition, public school funding has grown each year and is projected to continue that way over the forward estimates.

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-12/federal-election-fact-check-coalition-cuts-public-school-funding/11084514

K

I see TB, the bitterness continues

Howard makes a fair point, about what the ALP calls “the big end of town”

Most of those that will be hit by the taxation changes are middle class. Hardly the “big endof town”

Your evidence?

Genuine self funded retirees are hardly “the big end if town”

Shorten’s “top end of town” are retired people. That’s who he is targeting

What a hero

Somebody is making his non-point without evidence-links as usual. While blib stooten remains underwhelming, it is great that he frightens the fcuk out of teabags outside `and` inHouse, with great big scary scary `no tax cheques for self managed fund` welfare recipients with squillions in loot stashed away with accounting tricks.

But what`s ya point teebz. lt is common knowledge both team leaders are untrustworthy and afflicted with skyfairy. They both lead teams that have peddled trickle down rubishnomics that denies first year high school finance class. The current wreckage in country/world has been created and/or maintained by both teams. Neither team has any solution to anything. lf you don`t drink the koolaide.

This is an interesting way to get the orientation of independents that align with your own political orientation.

But I voted a couple of weeks ago…

https://www.theage.com.au/federal-election-2019/hawke-backs-shorten-as-consensus-leader-in-new-open-letter-20190514-p51nbm.html

Shorten’s “top end of town” are retired people. That’s who he is targeting

https://www.alp.org.au/policies/standing-up-for-pensioners/

yep, seems yer right. Is this the top end of town you are referring to?

https://www.alp.org.au/policies/labors-plan-for-making-multinationals-pay-their-fair-share/
https://www.alp.org.au/policies/labors-banking-fairness-fund/
https://www.alp.org.au/policies/reforming-negative-gearing-and-capital-gains-tax-arrangements/

Or are you unable to focus on more than one thing at a time?

Mind you… life coyld be worse… I’m on the first leg of my surf safari!

https://www.google.com/search?q=tofino&client=ms-android-telstra-au&source=android-browser&prmd=minv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiezISrk5ziAhWCMH0KHZCkBVsQ_AUoAnoECBcQAg&biw=412&bih=612&dpr=2.63

Shorten and the ALP target fully self funded retirees in the same way he targets tax avoiding multinationals.

Labor are taking away Franking Credits from multi nationals?

I am sure lots of low income or even unemployed people have some Telstra shares. They will be affected by labors policy

Can you explain to us how the franking system is the same as labors banking fairness fund wally?

yomm doesn’t seem to be able to

Yes, the top end of town… people that don’t rely in government pensions for retirement.

Outside the prejudices of the ALP, they are known as “middle class”

Wow. I has a second email addres so i rejoined Twitter. Made about 10 posts and was blocked within 5 minutes of joining and all my posts were deleted. Twitter seems to be controlled by lefties.

Same thing again. They want my telephone number to continue posting

lol, stopping a tax rort is a ‘sledge hammer’ lol

The yacht market will crumble

Is telling the automotive industry to piss off, and selling our submarine jobs out from under the feet of workers a ‘sledge hammer’?

My yacht could require some minor repairs at some stage.

Did you take wally out for a cruise?

TomR

https://www.news.com.au/meet-the-executive-who-shut-holdens-factory-stefan-jacoby/news-story/51ddb0f3d6e977903faedef879896c5f

“Mr Jacoby also said the highly publicised outburst from Federal Treasurer Joe Hockey during Question Time, calling on Holden to “come clean” with its decision, had no impact on the outcome – because the phone conference to decide Holden’s fate was happening at the same time.
“I proposed the decision and … the final approval came from the board,” Mr Jacoby told Australian media at the Detroit motor show.”

“Think I trust the ANU analysis rather than a conflicted Liberal CPA …”

Of course you would.

But if it only affects all those wealthy types why dont they simply put a threshold in place where a certain amount of franking refunds is capped.

Answer because their analysis is Bullshit

But if it only affects all those wealthy types why dont they simply put a threshold in place where a certain amount of franking refunds is capped.

Simple answer is

It’ll exempt charities, non-profits, pensioners and part pensioners and other Australians on government allowances, including future pensioners. Self-managed super funds that had pensioner members at the time Labor announced its policy will also be spared.

Exactly NoS

Exactly NoS

I think I can pinpoint exactly where you went wrong

Yes i read your comment. i find it hard to believe that anybody with $647,000 in shares and/or cash who owns their own home would still be able to get a pension.

I base my statement on the fact that 80=90% of things ALP supporters say is wrong

Yes Tosy I agree

Thank God their are no children in Australia living in poverty

But perhaps the Hawke policy of inclusion contrasts with Class Warfare

TB you are as usual placing people on the pension when they are happily independent

You seriously are an idiot

Actually i can. He sided with Ansett and used the military to destroy the unions or something like that. Ansett no longer exists

You, sir, are no Bob Hawke.

Hilarious and so true!

People will remember him with affection and Labor will benefit at the ballot box.

The libs were already faarked tosy

Of course, this will be their excuse, not their 12th century policies

Thanks

And a couple can have $853,000 cash/shares before they lose the pension. But for a lot of people they will only want to have $387,500 in the bank because they will lose the full pension if they go over that.

So some people will be tempted to cash in their Super, buy a more expensive home and have money in the bank under $387,500 and get the full pension. So keatings idea of replacing the pension with Super is not really working. If retirees lose their franking credits that will be even more incentive to cash in Super and buy a nicer home.

That is what i might do when i retire. Why have lots of money in the bank and lose the pension when u could use that money to buy a nicer home?

I thought it was keatings plan for Super to replace the pension. And the fact that people will always play the system is why ALP policies fail. Labor assumes people are honest.

But why not? If you have $500,000 in Super that will affect your pension. So cash it in and buy a home $500,000 more expensive than you could afford and then go on the pension. Your link says a couple who own their home can have $387,000 in cash/shares and still get a full pension