Election Night Special!

There was 1.5mill mail votes and 4.7mill pre-poles, which is over 1/4 and nearly 1/3 of the votes. There will still be some time before some of the seats will be decided. There is no way to foresee outcomes

and all we can do is listen to hillary predictors from the Legacy outlets.

ROTFLMAO

Suck it up losers

Something about counting chickens LOL

You might not want to bleat so hard. The team dishwater vote collapsed to 24% a few weeks ago in bananaland.

That’s a surprise!

I see that Tanya P is complaining about the libs getting preferences from One Nation and Palmer… I didn’t notice her commenting on the help the ALP gets from GetUp and Greens.

Quite a non event really. Does anyone feel sympathy for Shoten? Or Abbott? **sound od crickets**

All the talk about the Greensor independents having a chance in Kooyong, Higgin, Goldstein, Flinders etc, didn’t amount to much.

I expected ALP to win. I thought the Libs were so divided and without direction, even Shorten would seem acceptable by comparison.

But there we are, I was wrong.

Whereas the voters knew what they wanted, – and they got it.

I disagree. I’m sure they know what they wanted, but it aint what they got.

How the country could vote for nats after what they did to the river system beats me (let’s not start with education, nbn or health for the country), and buggered if I’ll shed a tear next time they go through a drought with their sticky maws out.

Sowed it, reap it!

This mob has screwed Australians for the last six years and Howard before them

Really? How? Rudd in 2007 was handed a budget with a $20B surplus. Within 12 months Labor had turned it into a $27B deficit and we have been in budget deficit ever since. Labor then dropped our borders and locked up 50,000 boat people costing us $15B and counting. Our car industry died under Labor.

I cannot see where the current Coalition govt has screwed Australians. But Labor was certainly threatening to do that. Renewable energy is expensive and Labor wants to get rid of cheap coal produced electricity.

Labor screws people not the Coalition

Nah, the “real problem” is always the fixation. Legacy outlets fixated on 2pp-team poles ; and applied willful blindness to the 70-poles straight on dud-leader. Then it flows on, teams and swooners are now fixated on bullshit.

This then makes it extremely easy for the zombies to play on mistakes and errors. Any dishwater leader running back and forth, claiming greenish credentials in boltsvillage, then to bananaland to imply adani possibilities. This `grey` behavior makes any dishwater leader look fake. Pick a side and fight your corner!

Same again with pensions/dole. A `review` is grey. Pick a fcuking number and fight your corner! Grow some nads and not look fake!

But no. Hand the zombie a club to beat the dishwater about the head with and claims of phony and fake to fixate the Legacy outlets and viewer-voters on.

Yes it may have been a good election to lose. If we have another GFC and economic conditions get worse I expect labor voters to say it is all the Coalitions fault. Just like ALP supporters do when Howard was Treasurer in the early 1980’s even though the economic numbers were the same in the USA.

But at least a Coalition govt will not lock up 50,000 boat people

Di Natale complaining that the Greens didn’t win Kooyong etc…

Greens leader Richard Di Natale blamed the Liberals’ “ultra-negative tactics and millions received in big corporate donations”

Really, what crap. I wasn’t about for the last week or 2 but prior to that I’ve never seen a more intensive local advertising campaign by the Greens.

It hurt the Greens that Oliver Yates, a high profile and well resourced independent, also ran.

Shorten’s “top end of town” clearly rhetoric didn’t resonate.

That type of commentary might go down well with the unions that run the ALP, but the people that vote don’t think that way.

Self funded retirees aren’t the “top end of town” and people objected to Shorten’s divisive insinuation.

And I still have no idea whta you are talking about …

Do what I do, ignore. Him and nil are both scrollers.

Some Twit just put up the link about the Queensland results I referred to earlier

Looking at the candidates in Queensland, it is wall to wall rightwing minor and micro parties, many of whom are far-right extremists.

For some reason, the more progressive types are missing.

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/will-the-coalition-lose-after-all,12621

The left can;t compete against big mining money. GetUp (again, not a political party yomm) can agitate the grassroots, but can’t spam 20million voters for months leading into an election.

LOL look at all you sooks

ROFLMAO

Get over yourselves

I was just quoting Shorten,

mis-quoting is the term yomm. As evidenced by your inability to reply to any of my questions earlier about that topic.

he was not distinct

He was very distinct

The media ran interference quite well though, as is always the way, except this time, abc and fairfax were almost as bad as ltdnews

People don’t like Shorten, and he communicates poorly. That’s his problem, not the media’s

and that`s the problem its about personality not policy

TRY

the problem is team strategy not team policy

(watch team dishwater recruit paul howes to lead them to victory)

‘gloating’ ~ Still not learning in bananaland l see. lf that`s all you can glean from what l`ve said from my NON-team perspective ; then prepare ya`self for the Voters to bring out the Trump-Train again next election.

Slomo is ” flush with success ” because team dishwater are absolutely fcuking hopeless on `strategy` which allows the zombies free reign to offer minimal amounts of nothingness and easily frighten ” decent people.”

The next three years of summers, winters and cyclones will decide who exactly ends up ” flushed down the toilet! ” and who will “rejoice!”

Does Tom R and TB think Albanese is a bulls*** artist?

Mr Albanese started making his economic case with a firm indication that the policy to abolish refundable franking credits would itself be on the chopping block.

“They were people for whom a small cheque was what they paid their rates with or their car rego, or other essentials in life.”

Poor ol`shane must be fcuking devastated with bananaland turning zombie blue too. Hope he feels better soon and drops by.

He’s trying to out abbott abbott

but a company`s share price is directly related to its grossed-up dividend

utter bullshit

share price is what the punters will pay for it

market forces, remember?

the `yield` is derived from the stockprice, not the other way around

After the gifford / palin? event ; nobody can argue limitednews is not `inciting` assassination. lf any other halfwit did similar ; plod`n spooks would be kicking in their door. Now Watch!

Yep, we`re saying the same thing using different terminology.

What you are saying is ; the dividend investor-buyers stockprice `bid` is determined by .. directly related to dividend yield

NOT as l read, the marketprice

Milky Bar kids are BRUTAL!

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1?r=US&IR=T

I don’t know what your point is splatter.

In so many ways

LOL

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7051833/Labor-mocked-Liberals-Chris-Bowens-Suits-style-photo.html

Same theme

“It is why we seek government. Not for history’s sake. And not for our own. Not for the trappings or ornamentation of office, but to build things that last, to change the nation, to write Australia larger and better.”

https://www.smh.com.au/federal-election-2019/change-the-nation-forever-shorten-invokes-whitlam-in-final-push-20190516-p51nxz.html

Change the Nation pervaded the entire campaign along with Change the Rules.

U can tell Malcolm Farr votes labor because he is so deceitful. What the hell does this mean?

However, the Liberals could rely on the preference support of a million Liberal National Party voters in Queensland, and 34,000 Country Liberal Party voters in the Northern Territory.

LNP votes in QLD are not preference support they are primary votes. But I think it is QLD which won the Coalition the election. Not much changed anywhere else

…and the disgraceful waste of taxpayer’s money by Daniel Andrews – political advertising on federal issues during a federal election! I think that my have annoyed a few people.

Certainly it didn’t change any votes.

From The Age-

Defeated Labor leader Bill Shorten has stunned colleagues by actively involving himself in the selection of his successor and attempting to hinder the run of left-wing powerbroker Anthony Albanese

Great work Bill, you’ve earned the right to f*** the ALP a little more!

Great work Bill

Oh my Dog, he’s actively participating in politics!

A former Leader and current elected member of a political party

ROFL

Meanwhile, the newly elected grubmint broke a promise before they were elected

ie, they lied, and the gullible numbnuts on facebook swallowed the bullshit.

I see king clive still hasn’t paid his workers either

people are so gullible.

The arrogance of winners

It’s gonna be a long three years of lies and bullshit

“Right so here is the actual story behind this photo: it was taken by SMH photographer…”

So what ?

It was Bowen that tweeted it with a caption “We Are Ready” last week

It was Bowen that tweeted it with a caption “We Are Ready” last week

Got a screen cap?

Because they clearly implied this photo was taken specifically for the expected win, not a budget reply.

Our democracy was bought

You have such a low opinion of others. You never accept that people exercise their free will, and are quite capable of indetifying an ambitious, devious, dishonest bulls*** artist when presented with one.

I know some are upset about others calling their fellow countrymen idiots, but ………….

yea, it’s just not cricket, is it yomm.

Been funny watching the assembled throng telling Labor supporters to be nice.

Apparently the only time you are allowed to be assholes is during the election itself.

Who are the assholes?

According to the paid shills on tele, Labor supporters, for voicing their disapproval of a corrupted election system.

According to me, palmer, murdoch and the libs etal for leveraging that corruption to further their own ends

“According to me, palmer, murdoch and the libs etal for leveraging that corruption to further their own ends”

LOL what a load of BS coming from a supporter of a party that masqueraded as Medicare HQ in an sms to voters at the last election. Mediscare anyone ?

I think Bob Brown and his convoy of pathetics might have swung Qld. Look at Anna Palaszczuk’s backflip on Adani yesterday in her call for action. She sniffed the political breeze and smelt the stench about her party in the regions.

Thankyou Bob Brown………………………what a fucking moron you are

LOL

I dont think TomR’s coping mechanism is doing very well ROFLMAO

Corruption ? Lies ?

Links please

Oh perhaps you are referring to Andrew Leigh’s 2006 paper

https://cpd.org.au/2006/03/bring-back-the-inheritance-tax/

You must remember Andrew. He was the guy who didn’t know what a Nominee company was.

https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/the-five-faceless-investors-who-own-much-of-australias-largest-companies-20170312-guwi2h.html

Like I said ROTFLMAO

groan

lol, so the libs change the laws because they can’t handle the truth (yes, they WERE planning to privatise the payment system, which is pretty much medicare), and then do worst

hypocrits spring to mind

It certainly didn’t endear the locals to the cause.

No, the Greens asz a whole did more damage than good, as per usual

But it pales when compared to what clive was unleashing up there

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/23/self-interest-didnt-swing-the-election-results-but-the-scare-campaign-did

lol

and you complain about me blaming the media, you know, the one who actively promotes the conservative side, unashamedly

“”But that would be just too hard to accept.””

I’m quite happy for them to blame everyone else. They have as much self awareness as Bowen did in nominating for leader.

So let them cast the blame so the LNP can beat them again next time.

Look at how the ALP’s primary vote has crashed since the 1970’s. Even Whitlam got a better primary vote than Shorten ever has

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Labor_Party#Federal_election_results

The ALP needs to get over the “blame someone else” attitude for it’s electoral failure, and acknowledge that its structure and policy settings are the main problem… and are within their control.

… you also need to be mindful that almost half of the nation voted ALP 

TB, I think you need to be mindful that the ALP has been beaten successively by conservatives on 3 occasion. Not only that their leaders have been Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison.

But you, Tom R and other committed ALP barrackers don’t seem to acknowledge the fundamental deficiencies in the party. The defeats only result in repetition of the same blame.

Don’t you think the ALP should deal with the factors that are completely within its control?

Excellent news. Bring on 2022 and really get smashed. In fact at this rate ScoMo will call it early LOL

#letsgofurtherleft

https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/may/23/tony-burke-floats-green-new-deal-style-approach-to-labors-climate-policy

Beats me why ALP supporters are so tribal. It is very much a religion for ALP supporters to vote ALP much more than for people who vote for the Coalition.

It looks like the trump-train is having a busy month. ln britannia their dud-leader looks like going under the wheels real soon.

Back in bananaland the teabag panic is gushing down premier anna`s leg. She fears the trump-train returning for her, so is rushing the adani enviro-report/study. At the same time the neighboring coal site to adani has closed/canceled its development.

I still can`t see any benefits of an automated pit-to-port project, connecting to an automated port, most likely serviced by a handful of fifo techs out of bombay, my bet is the construction phase will probably be done by no-speak-english fifo workers from the punjab so they can`t talk to the Legacy outlets. l think recent bananaland voters are going to discover they were well and truly `punked` and are in for a rude shock.

Since the 1993 election the media in Australia has become more concentrated and unashamedly partisan, to the point where even the abc is politically compromised, as evidenced by the fallout in recent months over the behaviour of senior management

Channel 7 is run by a former Federal LNP Treasurer for dogs sake, and ltdnews …. well, they are worst than the lot of the rest put together, and has far more sway than them all.

(tosy forgets the greens, because the libs, without the nats, are worst off than Labor)

And yes, when a filthy rich asshat of questionable integrity can buy an election, there is definitely something wrong in the state of Redneck Wonderland

If ya talking about costello teamcheerer, l think he is the bigwig of network9`n fairfax. Sorry teebz but tinfoil`osy is more correct than what you`re trying to claim. The teabag coalitions is no secret. To claim greenz votes are somehow dishwater votes is bullshit. When di-natale was at the pressclub, blib stooten and a string of dishwaters were arrogantly saying they were going to run the show without greenz. (this cost`em a few votes too)

May as well laugh at it

Why? This is fun.

Up until you need a Dr, or pay electricity

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-22/medicare-changes-see-doctors-pulling-out-of-outer-metro-areas/11134250?fbclid=IwAR2CZQnxCnLHev_lFPrVEZtatnb14EO1P565m_TMOZ8oZn7cr-D8dYhFSpY

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/morrison-win-sparks-sharp-lift-in-wholesale-electricity-prices-20190520-p51p7t.html?fbclid=IwAR2cZLX7HiyFUS7wPEp8r5F0t_u9qD_04gBRXngI5BmoLGmdJjr840E8-1g

there`s always a way” .. TB family saying

Yeah there`s always a way to be arse fcuked too. Haven`t elections taught you anything.

But BHP has “no appetite for growth in energy coal regardless of asset attractiveness,” the company said in a briefing slide.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/business/mining/bhp-foresees-phase-out-of-energy-coal-ng-s-1945403

BHP is looking to add more oil, copper, and nickel resources to its portfolio, while souring on energy coal because it thinks the fossil fuel will be phased out, “potentially sooner than expected”.

@the slack jawed yokels and premier anna must have missed this!

Correct. So you think adani is interested in foundry coal???

For anybody else that`s interested in trump-train travels, euro-trash political duopoly`s are going under the wheels as voters choosing hard left greenists and hard right kkk-teabags. France voters have dumped macron and selected Le-Pen the `frExit` candidate. Scheduling indicates the trump-train will be arriving at ten-downing on Jun7 to collect theresa.

What’s the bet the average pensioner will continue to pay for the libs largesses

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-27/the-baby-boomer-budget-problem-election-franking-credits/11147852

That’s because most people have become selfish pricks like you and ToSY …

It is hardly selfish to pay a whole lot of tax and expect the government to spend it efficiently. I just expect a government to be as prudent with my taxes as I am with my money

The fact is (as you point out regularly) that people often become anxious about change. And (as you also point out) it is up to those proposing the change to manage, resolve or ameliorate the anxiety.

The fault is squarely with the ALP for being unable to sell their plan for change . The fault is NOT with those that were anxious or concerned about change.

In disciplines outside politics you seem to understand this TB and post that you have professionally consulted as a change agent . But when it comes to the ALP you’re inclined to blame the voting public, not those charged with the responsibility to “sell” the change.

Why is it that you accept that business leaders are responsible for selling change, but don’t have the same expectation of political /ALP leaders?

I think you meant “it’s” …

I think I mean “its”, not it’s… it’s is only short for “it is”

Its is a possessive pronoun like his.

I just expect a government to be as prudent with my taxes as I am with my money

#NBN spent more creating a dilapidated outdated service than the original plan
half a billion to advertise the death of a reef
paid tens of millions to a mates farm for water that will go to another farming corporation anyway
pays a mate to a credit card for welfare that costs more than welfare recipients receive in the first place
and how much went to a shock on Kangaroo Island

yea, better economic managers my arse. we are in a per capita recession, driven mainly by the libs harsh industrial laws.

Remember how the little ol innocent abc always introduced Labors policy as the “retiree tax”

I’d say sucked in pensioners, but, that’d be mean.

https://www.afr.com/news/policy/tax/retirement-incomes-face-review-20190524-p51qsi

I`d have to admit tc, l`d have a bit of chuckle if my abc got a little budget clip. lt tends to get them over stimulated.

(The ALP lost ground after 2 terms in opposition. When was the last time that happened?

I know, right; because convincing* relatively-poor, relatively-ill-educated, relatively-low-culture, absolutely-oft-denigrated people in already-quasi-secessionary (North) Queensland to (re-)embrace a 19th Century blacklung economy as their immediate/only future instead of (just(ly)-)transitioning to a (early-)mid-21st Century solar-hydrogen-ammonia economy is just so trustworthy on any (time)scale; fair’d’income, as a party to a Party or Parties intent on promising to Keeping the Promise of Australia for all Australians, especially the childrens, you’d have to be mad not to mine the heck out of that (shallow) reservoir of resentiment as your contribution to local, national, and global leaderships in an emergent, low(er)-carbon world.

Or, to put it another way: when was the last time that Australia and Australians, including North Queenslanders, did/n’t progress, on any metric, compared with global peers and/or competitors, per sometimes-underbaked-in-the-heat-of-not-barracking (Coalition) policy prescriptions?

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Fascinating article-said, Neil….

“….But there’s a possibility that gas will be leapfrogged by emerging markets as they opt for renewable energy, Mr Beaven said.

BHP also sees potash, used in fertiliser, as a valuable asset in the long-term as food insecurity drives increased need for potassium….“)

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Apparently, everyone’s SWOTting up; is that a progressive or a conservative thang; b’coz both ‘parties of government’ seem to be engaging in a bit of it, lately, after their respective little-big win(s)-loss(es) in their Parties’ (ir)respective ‘traditional heartlands’?)

TB if you say – That’s because most people have become selfish pricks like you and ToSY … no amount of lofty self justification can address that insult or generalisation.

You’re right wing Liberals…

I think you mean “Your right wing Liberals…”

Miranda Devine…………..

“The party of the worker, founded in Barcaldine, rural Queensland, under the fabled “Tree of Knowledge” during the shearer’s strike of 1891, is caught in a cultural pincer movement.

On one side, stand the stern frauleins of EMILY’s List, representing hard-left feminism. On the other is Rainbow Labor, the political mainstreaming of the fringe LGBTQI movement. Woe betide anyone who doesn’t meekly acquiesce to their demands….

……A friend in the Socialist Left recently complained to him privately after a conference caucus meeting about how “doctrinaire” colleagues had become.

“He just could not believe how much of the meeting had been turned over to talking about sexuality/gender matters when there were so many other issues that needed to be discussed. They sucked up so much of the meeting’s oxygen.

“People wanted to move on to other issues but the protagonists kept talking and demanded to be heard.”

Those shearers who gathered for a fair go under that Queensland tree, wouldn’t recognise their party. The electorate in which they met, Maranoa, is now the safest Coalition seat in the country and recorded Queensland’s highest No vote in the same-sex marriage survey.

But, like Joe Bullock, the founders of the Labor Party wouldn’t even vote for themselves today. Why would the rest of mainstream Australia? “”

Why would the rest of mainstream Australia?

I was hoping it was because they wouldn’t believe the lies that dopes like devine print.

I was Wroo .. wro oo ..

inaccurate 😉

“And can Albo stay away from the Vietnamese brothels?”

LOL you and me must speak to similar people

We’ve all seen the pic.

I didn’t. Better to share it.

So you still think the rest of the planet is nation building with telegraph wire???

OK what would u say if Labors FTTP network cost $500/month for basic internet? Is fibre worth the extra cost? Would people be willing to pay that much for basic internet service?

What does that mean?

Хэн нэгэн тэдний оюун ухаан алдаж байна

I mwan egg boy doesn’t like racist nutcases. That’s fine with me!! I think at a similar age, I might have thrown a tomato at Fraser.

Well comrades, albo will be getting his instructions at the team meating today, from those internal demographics that are commonly referred to as da-factionz. By the end of the day we will all find out if there is perfect balance between the white faction and the black faction, and between the penis faction and the vagina faction, and between the right faction and the left faction, and so forth. The ghost of blib stooten will be endorsed by all as the shadow minister of haunting the albo opposition. l can already hear voters booking their tickets on the trump-train for 2022.

Only the dills vote above the line teamcheerer. Only voting below the line stops team-dealing and preference whisperers.

“…….and he is ropable about palmer sending his vote to the libs.”

Yeah I gotta say now that 1 to 12 below the line counts I certainly wont go above the line from now on. Too many party hacks get the top positions

We should just go back to the original winner in the Senate takes all as created upon Federation and since progressively bastardised ever since

Good points all of them. Hawke and Keating were the dream team after the ALP ditched the Drover’s Dog. Hawke transitioned from the far left to the centre and became the most successful ALP PM.

I first heard statements like that in 2007. Any good economic numbers which happened under Howard was due to reforms brought in by hawke/keating according to ALP supporters.

But what did they actually do? Debt went from 6% to 18% of GDP under Hawke/keating and we lost our AAA credit rating. Unemployment was high from 1983-1996 and was at 11% when keating became PM.

Keating did introduce compulsory Super but it is not working. When retiring people are cashing in their Super, spending the money and then going on the pension. Super was supposed to replace the aged pension

All I can remember is debt tripling and we lost our AAA credit rating under Hawke/Keating and we had more than 2 years of double digit unemployment in the early 1990’s. No good economic numbers from 1983-1996. Victoria went close to being bankrupt, banks closing etc

And Super is not working. It was supposed to stop people going on the aged pension

TomR have I mentioned u r a FOOL?

There you go TB again, it wasn’t Shorten’s fault that he couldn’t persuade the public of the benefits of his significant change agenda, it was-
* Murdoch
* Palmer
* Financial institutions
* The selfish public…

Don’t you think it’s time that you stopped blaming everyone except Shorten?

More surf safari…

https://www.google.com/search?q=surf+basque&client=ms-android-telstra-au&source=android-browser&prmd=imnv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjN8vTXp8PiAhXC1uAKHVjyDjQQ_AUoAXoECA0QAQ&biw=412&bihw=612&dpr=2.63#imgrc=mMJvK8wbBzY9xM

We don’t need the ruskies tosy, we have our own oligarchs already buying off the electorate.

Glad you liked it TB 😉 apparently, their manager didn’t 🙂

Here’s a tribute to the aussie electorate who voted based on their social media adverts. Cambridge Analytica is alive and well, they’ve just gone underground.

Looks like our msm have learnt a lot from the election

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/bill-shorten-may-not-have-abandoned-his-leadership-ambitions-20190530-p51sr4.html

Or, Labour handled Brexit, and it’s aftermath, worst than even may did?

they won’t address their inherent internal problems.

You mean, like throwing their public support behind a convicted pedophile?
Or giving half a billion dollars to their mates to advertise the GBR?
or killing a river system by buying non existent water from their mates?

Do the maths teamcheerer, farage got twice as many (plus-one) seats as labor and teabags combined. So called `major` teams are on the nose globally.

Lipstick, meet pig

But you`re still guzzling the koolade teebz, which seems to be wiping out you`re managementy trainy trainy and changey agenty trainy trainy and reducing you to “in-box” thinking. Are you really satisfied with any of the team dishwater strategy?

(and l`ve suggested plenty above)

I`m certain that “anyone could understand if ” a team and team swooners remain arc-welded to proven failed strategies that resulted in voters driving the trump-train over them twice already; then not changing strategy will just result in voters doing it again.

Now, Now, Now, tc, play nicely. Knock off the adhoms. l`m not telling you anything l didn`t tell you 156 weeks ago, and likely to be telling you again in 156 weeks time.

Just to quote you TB – “That’s because most people have become selfish pricks…”

And I have not even addressed the policy shortcomings

Yes, you said most people are selfish pricks like me and Tony…

So how have I misrepresented your sentiments?

…disdain and words…

Commenting on a phone …
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But really TB, calling the public (or anyone else) selfish pricks because they don’t hapoen to share your political is intolerant. But you regularly complain about sniping

(Speaking of #libspill, or more generally, I s’pose it’d be gauche to recall that some manchilds are better than others at fabricating/wearing/interpreting their (and others’) smiling-and-optimistic/glib-and-superficial-charm masks.)

Somebody didn`t understand the last paragraph! (Toot. Toot.)

RB, you simply provide an insult and then deny it.

You blame a selfish public for the ALP’s loss, and deny that you blame the electorate

You say – “see a shrink”, you’ll probably say that’s not an insult or personal too.

Have a look in the mirror.

(We dodged a bullet there.

Whew! For a moment I almost thought that NewsCrop was say-admitting ‘It was the HUN wot won it’; but it was only a squawking Parrot claiming credit for playing a peripheral-yet-(self)-assuredly-pivotal investiture role; because not even the Smellograph seemingly had much ‘change agency’ impact, let alone Rupert’s Melbourne rag, loosely-judging by the statuses quo ante in Victoria and NSW; still, there’s always the Sunny Coast Daily and ‘you’re next Anna’ to fantasise about; I s’pose.

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Teach your children to go on (un)representative ‘democracy’ strike; screw with everyone’s glorious Age of Majority calculations; selectively engage in everyday participatory-democractic activities; and give Mandy, The-Devine-Right (il)legitimate conniptions about teh social(-liberal)ist yoof? No way! Go back to correctional-state-mandated citizenship-re-re-education campus, leetle sheets!)

(Usually when bullet dodging (my)taxpayer(funded)ABC tend to claim lt(s)All-Twitters-Fault(s) while (will)Fully ignoring the deeply embedded (rectal)Cancer-Of (global)Limited(news) infecting so(called)many democracy(s). Dwindling (incre)mental gymnastic(s) efforts within Legacy outlets can never overcome any outfit(s) ultimately pushing a (dud)product(s).)

A partisan barracker who thinks most people are greedy pricks because they don’t agree with his political orientation should see a shrink.

Not anxious TB, just finding the hypocrisy, denial and bland/careless insults a little tedious.

So I’ve decided not to overlook all that, and certainly there’s not much you overlook

Newspoll out just now

ALP still leads by 3% 2pp

😀

I see, so Tony said something you disagree with, so you called him a selfish prick, and specifically included me in the insult.

Have I got that cintext right?

Then because I pressed you on the issue, you suggested I “see a shrink”

I think that’s the context as I see it. A

nd no TB, I’m not “moving on” because I can’t see anything in your “context” that justifies calling me a “selfish prick” or that i “should see a shrink”

I think you’ll have to justify your insults or put up with being reminded of them.

(Indeed; (un)resolved tensions oft are contradictory:

Social liberalism (also known as modern liberalism in the United States and left liberalism or Ordo-liberalism in Germany) is a political ideology and a variety of liberalism that endorses a regulated free market economy and the expansion of civil and political rights. A social liberal government is expected to address economic and social issues such as poverty, health care, education and the climate using government intervention whilst also emphasising the rights and autonomy of the individual.

Under social liberalism, the common good is viewed as harmonious with the freedom of the individual. Social liberal policies have been widely adopted in much of the capitalist world. Social liberal ideas and parties tend to be considered centrist or centre-left.)

Yes TB, it takes all kinds, from reasonable, intelligent people, to ill-informed deliberately abusive and abrasive bigoted bullies like you

I’m pretty well convinced that Trump has little or no knowledge of modern history, nor geography (like many US citizens) …

And no doubt like many Queenslanders
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And I’m now happy to “move on”.

Here on the Basque Coast, it’s just mellow, good food, coffee, surf and company! It’s so much more civilised than its surfing counterparts in Queensland!

Well , I don’t think the taxpayers have much to do with my holiday. But you can watch here!!

https://www.hastea.com/webcam-hd

Hilarious that they are correct wally?

What the fuck are these people reading ?

The lefts version pf palmer?

apparently, all these yokels in Queensland are under the impression adani means thousands of jobs

suckers

Although, by next election, the non existent jobs will be albos fault, for having the same, continuous policy that they have had all along, no matter what morons think.

“When asked what she thought about coal mining, she replied that it was
…..“terrifying”. “Absolutely terrifying, you’re not meant to go that deep into the earth,” she said.
“Yes, 100 per cent (coal mining should be banned), it’s crime in front of your eyes.”

Poor old Zoe has never heard of the Marianna Trench

What is it with this new fangled measurement of ‘per capita recession’?

They didn’t bother with it during the GFC.

Weird hey 😉

🙂

Take That, diktat!

https://www.betootaadvocate.com/uncategorized/the-betoota-advocate-offices-raided-by-afp-over-1997-engadine-mcdonalds-leaks/

He cites Australian Bureau of Statistics data that shows the number of jobs in renewable energy in the state almost doubled from 2016 to 2018 to reach more than 5,000.

Yes but renewables are subsidised by the taxpayer. Remove the subsidies and renewables would collapse. Furthermore coal mining brings royalties for the State govts something renewables don’t plus coal provide export income.

Facts are renewables are expensive and economically bad for Australia. Plus we have to import solar panels, windmills etc. You would have a better argument if global warming believers say we must pay the extra cost to save the planet

AAUGGHH

someone spelt yor wrong

Get the afp to raid ’em

Anybody who argues the afp is not completely owned by the libs is a crack head!

Even their lies are getting worst. Will the press go after him for this? He claims he didn’t know until AFTER the execution of the warrants, but, it turns out, he needs to sign off BEFORE the execution of the warrants.

“I have had no involvement in the AFP’s investigation into these matters. Following the execution of each search warrant on 4 June and 5 June respectively, my office was informed that search warrants had been executed.”

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jun/05/peter-dutton-denies-prior-knowledge-of-afp-raids-on-abc-and-news-corp

But, under his super powers

Splitters! 😉

auggh, union thugs ae cuming for your drugs

I love the way they closely link them with the ALP, but refrain from same linkage when banker types go down for the same.

They is just rogue players (lot’s of them)

like the banks the CFMEU is a lawless bunch of stand-over merchants enriching management at the expense of the rest of us.

Except of course, we had two royal commissions, one spent years combing over Unions with millions of dollars spent for a handful of prosecutions, the other was spun through as quickly as possible with the least money spent, and found copious amounts of issues

Compare the pair

Hows that “Strong Economy” going so far?

I love the way they closely link them with the ALP, but refrain from same linkage when banker types go down for the same.

As you know, the CFMEU is a formal part of the structure of the ALP, they nominate members to participate on all ALP forums, the choose members of parliament.

Banks don’t have that type of representation.

“As you know, the CFMEU is a formal part of the structure of the ALP, they nominate members to participate on all ALP forums, the choose members of parliament. ”

Exactly. Who knows who the heads of banks vote for. The head of Qantas is obviously a ALP supporter. Malcolm Turnbull is a natural ALP guy who was in the wrong party although he was a fiscal conservative. And lots of working class people vote for the Coalition. That is why Queensland voted for the Coalition.

2020 … be afraid, very afraid … this government is continuing its trajectory sending Australia’s economy downward … backward?

There have been 3 Labor govts in the lifetime of most Australians. Whitlam. Hawke/keating, Rudd/Gillard.

All 3 were economic disasters. Gough doubled the unemployment rate. Unemployment was at 11% when keating became PM. We were debt free in 2007 until Rudd/Swan trashed the budget.

The ALP and their supporters just destroy the lives of people

So it comes down to God v Rugby Australia

No, it comes down to someone abusing people on social media, against his signed contract.

I went to Sunday School, none of these religious types remind me of the HeyZeus I read about.

These are the same fuckwits who defend a convicted pedophile because ……….. Rod!

I’ll be pissing myself laughing when their all burning in a hell of their own contrivance and I’m looking down at them from my Flying Spaghetti Monster

Banks don’t have that type of representation.

ROFL

nah, they actually hold more sway over the libs than any Union does over the ALP

 … how many in the financial pirate industry have been jailed for fraud, theft/stealing and/or misleading government inquiries … how many bank managers were promoted who were actually involved in fraud, theft/stealing and/or misleading government inquiries …

You might explain how that is relevant to a political party. Were they members of a political party?

Israel Folau seems like a delusional dill, but I think ARU will struggle to aviod a huge payout,

He expressed a religious view and was dismissed from his employment.

Those that support his dismissal would probably be vocal in their condemnation of a religious organisation that dismissed an advocate of gay rights (for example)

Yep, you can just feel them burning for us

https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jun/06/barnaby-joyce-approved-plan-to-chase-80m-water-buyback-documents-show?__twitter_impression=true

are pilloried by the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.

Again, pilloried and abused, not the same thing.

There’s a reason we have different words for different things 😉

… oh, hang on, that’s illegal …

Everything is these days it seems, except of course breaking your signed contract to abuse people for Rod!

Try pillorying some LGBT types and see how far it gets you!

Do they snark back at ya wally

Meanies!

drunks,
homosexuals,
adulterers,
liars,
fornicators,
thieves,
atheists,
idolators”
“Hell awaits you!
Repent!
Only Jesus saves.”

Yeah I can see why Qantas boss Alan Joyce was sooooo upset by these remarks that he pressured RA to terminate Folau’s contract.

I await to see the termination of all commercial contracts with the gay loving Emirates and Qatar airlines next.

Just another example of Corporate Social Justice at work.

Hypocrites all

OK so back to my list

drunks, Tick
homosexuals, Cross
adulterers, Cross
liars, Tick
fornicators, Tick
thieves, Cross
atheists,Cross
idolators” Tick

I’m outraged…………………Not

The question is whether RA even has the power to insert such clauses and or restrain his freedom of speech

He signed the bloody contract.

He had been warned before.

Fuck these free speech warriors, who are silent when it’s not a religious nutjob, but a whistle blower exposing wrong doing

And knowing our discerning FWC, anythings on the cards

I hope Rugby Australia has the evidence that Hell actually exists.

Other wise how can anyone be offended ?

FREEDOM!

“… this is a clause from just one Code … ”

How many times do I need to say ………………..IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT CLAUSE YOU WRITE INTO A CONTRACT . IF IT CONFLICTS WITH ANOTHER STATUTE OR ASPECT OF COMMON LAW IT IS UNENFORCEABLE.

I think if “the code” restrains religios freedom, it will be deemed to be unenforceable. Therefore any action taken on the basis of it will be in breach of the employment protections.

An example- if an individual signed a contract to attend work without exception, Mon – Fri, and they were ill on a Wed and took the day off, their employment would be protected. A restraint in an employment contract that is in breach of an employees statutory rights, is unenforceable.

And it is irrelevant whether they have been warned. The protected employment right is stronger than the policy of a sporting organisation (I think)

That’s why I’d prefer to be arguing Folua’s case.

“The protected employment right is stronger than the policy of a sporting organisation”

Correct

“And which statute, or common law precedent does it infringe? ”

The Fair Work Act 2009 which was authored by Shortern and Gillard

Specifically S772 clause (f)

(1) An employer must not terminate an employee’s employment for one or more of the following reasons, or for reasons including one or more of the following reasons:
(a) temporary absence from work because of illness or injury of a kind prescribed by the regulations;
(b) trade union membership or participation in trade union activities outside working hours or, with the employer’s consent, during working hours;
(c) non-membership of a trade union;
(d) seeking office as, or acting or having acted in the capacity of, a representative of employees;
(e) the filing of a complaint, or the participation in proceedings, against an employer involving alleged violation of laws or regulations or recourse to competent administrative authorities;
(f) race, colour, sex, sexual orientation, age, physical or mental disability, marital status, family or carer’s responsibilities, pregnancy, religion, political opinion, national extraction or social origin;
(g) absence from work during maternity leave or other parental leave;
(h) temporary absence from work for the purpose of engaging in a voluntary emergency management activity, where the absence is reasonable having regard to all the circumstances.

http://www6.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/cth/consol_act/fwa2009114/s772.html

But there is one proviso further down the section which RA might argue

And that is………………………

(2) However, subsection (1) does not prevent a matter referred to in paragraph (1)(f) from being a reason for terminating a person’s employment if:

(a) the reason is based on the inherent requirements of the particular position concerned; or

And that’s why the lawyers earn the big bucks

The AFP’s just trolling us now

The Australian Federal Police is bracing for fresh scrutiny over its decision to raid major media organisations after officers quietly abandoned a separate investigation into who leaked classified national security advice at the height of a major political dispute over border protection.

The leak, which Australia’s top spy decried as “seriously damaging” and Labor claimed was orchestrated by the Morrison government to discredit proposed laws to fast track asylum seeker medical transfers, was referred to police by Department of Home Affairs secretary Michael Pezzullo earlier this year.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/breathtaking-development-afp-drops-investigation-into-who-leaked-classified-medevac-advice-20190607-p51vir.html

Their political affiliation is just Loud and Proud

you may see me as biased* but I respect the law

No you don’t because the ALP government legislated certain employment protections. One is that you cannot be dismissed as a result of religious beliefs. But that’s exactly what you are advocating.

It is prohibited. And that’s why the previous warnibg is probably irrelevant.

As for advocating communism, can you imagine the reaction if a union delegate was dismissed because of his political orientation?

The ARU has a real problem here, and I rhink they will have to find a very generous benefactor to cough up and get them out of it.

(I</a>ANAL)

The Folau case will be determined on the law, “malignant piety” won’t have anything to do with the outcome.

And the law will be the one the ALP enacted

(Si.) is the free market from the point of view of the winners

(Shh.)

What a surprise and people wonder why I detest the ALP. If the ALP has done anything good it is only by borrowing money and getting us into debt.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/news/queensland-budget-2019-winners-and-losers/ar-AACHmDI?ocid=spartanntp

“Loser: Queensland’s debt
The state’s debt sits at $71.4 billion but will soar to a massive $90 billion within four years.”