Frankly, George Calombaris is really just a bit of cunt.
He’s the poor little Greek boy who hit the big time and made millions from his reputation as a restaurateur and television personality.
However, his reputation has since been dragged through the proverbial gutter after it was revealed that he had underpaid his 500 employees to the tune of 7.83 million dollars.
George Calombaris appeared on the ABC’s flagship current affairs program “730” last night to explain that it was “an honest mistake,” wasn’t intentional, and that he “didn’t know anything about it.”
His performance has been widely slammed as a “desperate PR stunt,” and shameless attempt to rescue his rapidly unravelling reputation and professional standing.
In an industry that is widely regarded as paying the lowest levels of remuneration at the best of times, and demands of its workers – long hours, often poor conditions and arduous work – ripping them off by failing to pay overtime or other penalty rates is quite possibly the worst of the worst.
But of course, Calombaris would no doubt assume that some lowly apprentice chef or kitchenhand would so relish the opportunity to work alongside his magnificent ego that payment in monetary terms would seem so woefully inadequate and unnecessary by comparison.
In George’s defence, who amongst us hasn’t noticed a spare 8 million dollars sitting in our bank account that we would have otherwise thought would have been allocated towards entirely expected and predictable business expenses? It’s an easy mistake to make, and one that George misguidedly assumed everyone would believe. He even threw in some tears for good measure.
Let’s not forget, this is the same George Calombaris who in 2012 slammed the Fair Work Act for instituting penalty rates for restaurant staff, claiming they were “uneconomical” for small businesses.
He complained that some of his restaurants were unprofitable on a Sunday because he was required to pay staff up to $40 an hour. He is quoted to have said:
“The problem is that wages on public holidays and weekends greatly exceed the opportunity for profit – it’s not like they’ve had to go to uni for 15 years.”
In that same year, Calombaris moved from a $740,000 Victorian terrace in Fitzroy North to a $2.7 million house in Toorak.
He then upgraded again in 2013, buying another Toorak property for $4.75 million.
Nevertheless, it seems that people have already made up their minds about George Calombaris and don’t like what they see.
From picking a fight with a spectator at a football match, to ripping off his staff, to now begging people to eat at his restaurants, it appears the ego has finally landed.
Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
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The one question that Leigh Sales should’ve asked but didn’t:
“Did any of your employees approach you directly to raise their concerns about underpayment?”
“In George’s defence, who amongst us hasn’t noticed a spare 8 million dollars sitting in our bank account……………………”
OK I’ll bite
1) The Modern Award in this industry is one of the most complex that I have ever seen with extraordinarily detailed classifications impacting upon the hourly rate.
e.g Have you ever waited by the “Please Wait to be Seated” sign frustrated that wait staff know you are standing there but ignoring you. That’s because they are not allowed to seat you per the Award. That’s upto the staff on a higher classification and of course a higher rate. So until one of those sees you then you are going to be left like a shag on a rock
2) George was the front of shop owner when he started opening restaurants. His business partner was in charge of the back office.
3) George went to Fair Work voluntarily
4) Over all those years there is no evidence (not that I know of) of any employee complaining about their rates of pay to the management. So even the employees had no idea. It’s only since all this became public that ex employees started screaming like banshees
And as far as the $200K penalty is concerned even the ATO (if you get a reasonable ATO staffer) will impose a minimal penalty for voluntary disclosure
“So even the employees had no idea”
Are you seriously suggesting the employees had no idea they were being underpaid…??
The Modern Award in this industry is one of the most complex that I have ever seen with extraordinarily detailed classifications impacting upon the hourly rate.
Some would say ‘concise’
It’s like dejavu here. I recall how some idiot tried to tell us how each Award was over two feet thick
The Award system is there for clarity. Most businesses only require a few to operate. A part of running a business is knowing how to treat your workers. If you don’t like the way they are treated here, take your place of business overseas!
It also provides consiseness for the employer, who, when someone complains about a job, the employer can just point to the Award.
That’s upto the staff on a higher classification and of course a higher rate
I think that you will find it also provides the flexibilty for this to be designated to others. It is simply the base point from which individual businesses can deviate.
George was the front of shop owner when he started opening restaurants. His business partner was in charge of the back office.
Sorry officer, I started out in the back seat…………… 😯
AND
“Let’s not forget, this is the same George Calombaris who in 2012 slammed the Fair Work Act for instituting penalty rates for restaurant staff, claiming they were “uneconomical” for small businesses.”
For someone who was ignorant, he had a lot to say
George went to Fair Work voluntarily
Shit, they’re onta me 😦
Over all those years there is no evidence (not that I know of)
We’ll just leave that there 😉
“Are you seriously suggesting the employees had no idea they were being underpaid…??”
FWA would have been onto George et al if they were aware and had taken it to FWA. That’s especially the case if they became an ex-employee since there is then no risk of recrimination.
I’ll guarantee George is not alone.
“Top ABC radio presenter Jon Faine has lashed Leigh Sales’ 7.30 over a prerecorded interview with celebrity chef George Calombaris, which he attacked as nothing more than an ‘ad’ for the embattled restaurateur.”
Jon Faine said he accepted his words might lose him friends but said he was disappointed by last night’s interview with the former MasterChef judge, which was aired on the flagship 7.30 program.
“I personally, if this costs me friendships and relationships with some of my colleagues in other parts of this organisation, then I’m sorry,” he said on air this morning.
“But I was very disappointed that the ABC agreed to do the interview on his turf in a way that he could … turn it into an ad.”
Speaking to a worker who said she has yet to receive backpay, Faine said:“ What did you think of the ABC agreeing to interview him in one of his own restaurants, allowing him to constantly turn it into an ad, by saying we’re committed to great food and great service?”
Fair Work inspectors found significant underpayments occurred because they failed to correctly apply annualised salary arrangements for some staff, including by failing to conduct annual reconciliations to check that workers on annual salary arrangements were paid for overtime and penalty rate hours worked.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/george-calombaris-jon-faine-lashes-abc-interview/news-story/44a4ddc62117b9703b746ae9cd80d680
I’ll guarantee George is not alone.
No ones taking that bet
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/30/we-might-laugh-at-sushi-pizza-but-wage-theft-can-be-a-deliberate-business-strategy
failing to conduct annual reconciliations to check that workers on annual salary arrangements were paid for overtime and penalty rate hours worked.
SLASH RED TAPE!
The ego has landed. Splat !
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Yes, Sales missed (my thoughts too) Over the years how many of your workers have complained about their pay?
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No sympathy here blubbers, he tripped over his own self inflicted accounting tricks.
Of course faine is correct that it was much more ad/puff than solid interview, but it has been for quite a while now, ever since they threw out the `report` and downBranded to a mere `number` show. ls faine just noticing this now. Rumors came out of ultimo years ago that; the new host of the time struggled to find her inner `kerry`, the assigned clowntown side-kick was highly annoying, and some tunc live on twitter kept apologizing to viewers for her mistakes, side-kicks mistakes, shows mistakes, and general network breach of charter.
It`s All Twitters Fault !
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Who’s religions gonna win this one ROFL
Accurate
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA6zK2tU0AAafcA?format=jpg&name=900×900
‘a synagogue of Satan’ and ‘a paganistic ritual’
I think it’s kinda accurate lol
Then again, it could be turned back on who said it too 🙂
FUCK ‘EM ALL!
iv.. Jan.2018 More than half of the 1,900 ultra-luxury apartments built in London last year failed to sell, raising fears that the capital will be left with dozens of “posh ghost towers “.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jan/26/ghost-towers-half-of-new-build-luxury-london-flats-fail-to-sell
He says hundreds of Asian investors who had bought London developments off-plan in 2015-16 in the hope of making a quick profit by selling apartments on closer to completion have instead lost hundreds of thousands of pounds. “They intended to flip (buy and sell on) the apartments and make big profits, but it hasn`t worked out like that, and now they are trying to get out at the smallest possible loss.”
He adds that in one case a Russian investor bought an off-plan property in 2014 for 3.1m, but couldn`t afford to complete and sold it for 2.55m.
Herd says the Nine Elms development, near the new US embassy in south London, was one of the best redevelopment schemes in Europe but consisted of ” the wrong properties that Londoners(@locals) don`t need“.
“We need `affordable` one- or two-bedroom apartments priced at 500,000. We don`t need swimming pools and empty rooftop bars with no one living at home to buy drinks at them. There`s just way too many 1.5m-2m-3m flats that all look the same.
@-ghost towers (and ghost homes) already in jonestown folks, coming to boltsvillage and southport real soon.
So until one of those sees you then you are going to be left like a shag on a rock
Sounds like a personal problem to me …
BTW … my employees had access to their Award, Workplace Health and Safety and Workers Compensation Legislation … in the lunch room … you’s besurprised how many workers can actually read now …
(Sarc Alert: You’d think a person pay rate would be commonsense, hey?)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lawyersweekly.com.au/biglaw/25814-are-employment-contracts-being-used-to-control-employees-lives/amp
Josh Bornstein on the danger of Rugby Australia winning.
Publicly claimed, but in reality, wedged or forced.
Obviously you`re blubbering like an apologist dill coz they got caught-out using the same krusty-burger staffing model you have bragged using for your clients. As puffy as sales show was, the critical details were obtained. The biz has been going 25-plus years. The audit was only for last 7-years, averaging OVER 1.1(-mill) of wage THEFT.pa. The earlier 18-years of wage THEFT the biz has got away with, so far. That would still total OVER 10-mill of wage THEFT by my guestimates. The 200k `fine` and refund of STOLEN wages is a joke.
3) “ went to Fair Work voluntarily “
Last paragraph … sorta buggers the article concept …
But in Folau’s case … he had been made aware of the contractual agreement, warned and he went ahead and did the same (only worse) thing again … and thus breached his contract …
$10 million, reinstatement and apology is an ambit claim extraordinaire … and if Folau does “win” … I suspect a class action for defamation from a wide range of the LGBTI community … and his cousin ain’t helped his case one bit …
Everyone has freedom of speech and freedom of religious expression (including agnosticism and atheism) but with freedom of speech comes responsibility of speech … and the consequences if someone’s lifestyle is denigrated or harmed …
The case, arguments, outcomes and fallout are going to make interesting reading …
“Where is the outrage over the fate of the other Folau?”
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/where-is-the-outrage-over-fate-of-the-other-folau-20190802-p52dcd.html
And while we “discuss” a couple of ranting religious nutjobs … Trump dumps a nuclear weapons treaty, Morrison’s Marauders talk about nuclear power and the government encourages a right wing rant tank @$559 a pop – guess who pays for that …
I don’t recall any mention of nuclear power stations during the election?
Thanks, reb … and goodonya Pete!
Religion=Hypocrisy
Workplace Relations Partner of the Year at the recent Lawyers Weekly Partner of the Year Awards, Maurice Blackburn partner Josh Bornstein (pictured) said that while the Israel Folau saga had raised the issue of freedom of religious expression in mainstream conversation, the broader issue of employee rights to express views online is not new.
His “fundamental concern”, he explained, is that employers are using employment contracts to “control more and more of employees’ lives well beyond the workplace”, in ways that undermine the rights of a citizen to engage in debate.
I find it amusing that this outcome is the precedent that the left are barracking for!!
Their fury about Folau’s comments are preventing them from understanding the consequesnes of ARU being successful in this case.
Bornstein expresses this risk very well
Where is the outrage over the fate of the other Folau?”
May I suggest you have a look at how the Fair Work Act expresses employment protection
https://www.fairwork.gov.au/employee-entitlements/protections-at-work/protection-from-discrimination-at-work
So yomm, which religous nutjob is right with the katlicks kicking out and folau things rellie for calling their religion ‘a synagogue of Satan’ and ‘a paganistic ritual’
Also, I don’t think Bornstein is defending Folau’s case in this. Perhaps a re-read is in order?
I see dutton thinks Oz needs to catch up with the US on the mass murder counts.
He’s got the hate going, next step, the guns
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/15/peter-dutton-considering-request-for-gun-importers-to-review-rule-changes
I see dutton thinks Oz needs to catch up with the US on the mass murder counts.
He’s got the hate going, next step, the guns
How do you work that out? That article was from 15 March, 2018. Have you noticed any change in our gun laws since then? Not to mention the minister’s spokesperson was quoted in that article saying “In relation to firearms policy generally, the government has a strong policy in place and the fundamentals of that won’t be changing.”
#histrionics #bullshit
Yes, in relation to looking after the disabled, the grubmint has a policy
Stealing their money and pretending they have a surplus
You’ll excuse me if I ignore statements from proven liars, won’t you 😉
It’s their actions I watch
It’s their actions I watch
That’s fine. So instead of changing the subject, what actions has the government taken in regards to our gun laws since that article was written?
what actions has the government taken in regards to our gun laws since that article was written?
Pretty sure nobody knows, considering the secrecy going on
I see that dutton released a ONE page report on his office. Heavily redacted 😉
I think you need to read the FWC link, and that will clarify the legal status re Folau 2
Re Boreinstein, of course he wasn’t defending Folau, he was making the very valud pount about the restrictions that corporate policy places on the adility people to participte in public debate.
That is the fact and the left is barrackung for a High Court decision that is likely to extend this.
But typically, the left are blinded by their anger about the individual.
When the consequences of the High Court decision become clear, the left will complain about the result.
* typos aren’t poor grammar or incorrect spelling
I think you need to read the FWC link, and that will clarify the legal status re Folau 2
I need to read a link for yor opinions
How the worm has turned.
So, you’re batting with the catlicks this time?
No, I’ve never said I agrred with Folau 1 either.
I’ve pointed to the legal employment protections about expression of religious (and other) opinion/orientation. The link summarieses this.
The law specifically excludes cases like Folau 2.
But… are you interested in the precedent this case is likely to set in the rights of employers., through policy, to direct the opinions employees may express
are you interested in the precedent this case is likely to set in the rights of employers., through policy, to direct the opinions employees may express
I’m more interested in how a religious nutjob can sign a contract he disagrees with so he can get shitloads of cash, deliberately break that contract, and still expect shitloads of cash.
They didn’t sack him because of his religion. They sacked him cos he said stupid thing publicly he had signed a contract not to say.
The link summarizes this (see example 1:) 😉
As for the teacher crying, I just love the spectacle of religious nutjobs fighting it out over who’s nuttiest (I reckon it’s a stalemate)
Pretty sure nobody knows, considering the secrecy going on
The correct answer is: None. Our gun laws haven’t changed.
#cutthecrap #bullshitartist
So all those people that work for in a restaurant and sign a contract that says – “your salary is $45,000 per year, and this compensates you for all hours worked… ” – they have contracted out of their LEGAL protections?
Because protection of wages/hours is protected the same way as rekigioys expression- people cannot contract out of their legal rights.
Do you support this?
rekigioys – that’s a good word
your salary is $45,000 per year, and this compensates you for all hours worked
I think you will find is illegal for that sort of work, it’s why we have the Award system 😉
The ghost of blib stooten will be haunting albo`s run, telling my abc he is: committed to a future in the Federal Parliament, vowing he has “still got the fire for politics” in his first formal interview since May’s election loss.
@-dare l predict 138 weeks before the next fedvote |-:
Albo doesn’t need ill to stuff things up. He’s doing a wonderful job of that all by himself.
Consider the Crown casino fiasco, he’s been able to make it all about Labor. What a tosser
Employment protections in the FWA apply to pay, hours and a range of other matters including protection of employment relating to religion.
Do you think employers should be able to limit the opinions of employees through their policies?
Albo doesn’t need ill to stuff things up. He’s doing a wonderful job of that all by himself … What a tosser
Who else have you got? It’s like a reserves team playing in the firsts.
Do you think employers should be able to limit the opinions of employees through their policies?
As long as those opinions don’t interfere with the businesses operations, they shouldn’t be limited
There will be dozens of examples about (former) friends, partners, spouses, who deal with one another in business, particularly customer and supplier .
Just an easy example – someone says on facebook, about a (former) friend who happens to be the customer of the business – “he cheats at golf”
Employer says – he’s an important customer and our policy is that you can’t insult our customers. Here’s your warning… second time – here is your dismissal.
That is the right leftists will give to employers
and our policy is that you can’t insult our customers.
Did they sign on with that policy in mind? (I would assume yes, I mean, we cannot bag our clients, in or out of work)
Of course, someone who drives business away is a liability, of course they will be terminated.
Bloody leftist, protecting business owners like that
Meanwhile, wear a sticker that is non confrontational and a danger to no one, get the sack!
That’s the right the right have given employers
Or how about a union delegate who is letting it be known in the industry that he considers the company to be behaving unethically in their dealings with the union.
That isn’t protected industrial action, and it is damaging to the standing and reputation of the business.
1.Warning
2. Dismissal
Or how about a union delegate who is letting it be known in the industry that he considers the company to be behaving unethically in their dealings with the union.
#ChangeTheRules
This is because Union delegates are breaking the law when highlighting the wrong business is doing.
That’s the right the right have given employers
And how they get to call the CFMMEU law breakers
Hilsrious. You’re supporting a High Court decision that will greatly increase the control employers have over views employees express!
I think you’ll finish up being very unhappy with the consequences of the decision you want.
Hilsrious. You’re supporting a High Court decision that will greatly increase the control employers have over views employees express!
Actually, I see it as them upholding existing legislation.
And not one of the dumbass add ones the libs have done that actually attacks workers rights
Meanwhile, yomm wants workers to be able to bring a business to it’s knees, cos a worker has an issue with a client.
So you disagree with the head partner for employment law at Maurice Blackburn!
…and meanwhile, Tom R wants to allow the policies of an employer to supersede legislated employment rights which are intended to prevent discrimination.
and meanwhile, Tom R wants to allow the policies of an employer to supersede legislated employment rights which are intended to prevent discrimination.
You read bad
So, it’s legislated that an employee can abuse clients outside of work hours, with no recourse from the employer.
You’ll have to point me to the relevant section.
fer yomm
https://www.stacklaw.com.au/news/business-disputes/can-criticising-the-boss-on-social-media-get-you-sacked/?utm_source=Mondaq&utm_medium=syndication&utm_campaign=View-Original
That’s the right the right want to give employers!
At present there is little authoritative case law about the extent that employment contracts can limit the out of hours “free speech” of employees.
The ARU / Folau case will establish the limits of this and wherher an employment contract can supercede statutory employment protections.
While MB’s Josh Bornstein understands this, most of the left are blind to the likely consequences of an ARU win.
From my earlier link yomm
“Social media policies must be clear and understood by all employees”
They specifically wrote it into his contract. They mediated with him over it. They warned him about it.
He flouted it!
Someone who wants to kick workers off sites for wearing stickers, wants a multi millionaire to get awarded damages for flagrantly breaking a specific contract.
Privilege has no bounds
The ARU case is baed on employees being able to contract out of their statutory employment protections.
That’s what you are supporting.
[facepalm]
Shorten Failed to Understand the Middle Class, says Keating
NO!!! BLAME PALMER AND THE MEDIA!!
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/bill-shorten-failed-to-understand-the-middle-class-paul-keating-says-20190806-p52ejk.html
Public servant loses free speech case in the High Court, that should be great news to the left, and we can now expect more employer control over the expression of personal views and opinions
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/former-public-servant-michaela-banerji-loses-high-court-free-speech-case-20190807-p52enu.html
Do you notice the difference between this case and the religious nutjobs?
This case should not even have gone ahead, let alone won.
But silence from the free speech warriors who are vehemently defending a multi millionaire who used his platform to spread hatred, but leave an anonymous poster to the wolves.
I’m not aware that anyone has suggested that the views either expressed were illegal.
Therefore both expressed views that were contrary to their employer’s policy and were dismissed as a consequence.
<i.Therefore both expressed views that were contrary to their employer’s policy and were dismissed as a consequence.
One did it publicly, the other did it anonymously.
There was no direct blowback on her employer, only the Government
It’s in BigBrother district.
osy is being over generous with .. reserve-team .. and keating is full of carp .. 2/3rds of voters have dumped blib stooten .. pole after pole .. after pole .. after pole .. after pole .. after pole .. after pole x70
I see.
Folau expressed a legal opinion about religion, which was contrary to the policy of his employer. He was dismissed.
Michaela Banerji expressed a legal view about a political issue, which was contrary to the policy of her employer. She was dismissed.
And expect more of this control via employer policy, so you have what you were hoping for.
And expect more of this control via employer policy, so you have what you were hoping for.
You don;’t seem to grasp the difference between an employer publicly mocking compared with someone anonymously mocking
If the law allows dismissal for anonymous opinion, Folau will probably lose, but the consequences of both cases will be to enable employers to restrict the participation of employees in public debate.
As I’ve said, that’s the consequence that much of the left haven’t comprehended
that’s the consequence that much of the left haven’t comprehended
The consequences are miles apart, and the outcomes of both will send a stark reminder about what freedoms we do and don’t have.
if you agree with the grubmint, you are free to spout it.
That’s the opposite of ‘debate’
if you agree with
the grubmint,your employer you are free to spout it.I think you’ll find the relisous nutter isn’t the first one to disagree with Rugby Australia
I think he’s about the only one to malign a group of people, fans no less (and think he can get away with it)
As I’ve said employer policy is limiting the right of employees to express legal opinions.
But you are supportive of that
As I’ve said employer policy is limiting the right of employees to express legal opinions.
ah, ‘legal opinions’
So, is abusing a minority group ‘legal’?
And try and think about it without using religion as a protection.
the “ other did it anonymously ” @-hey dummy, once she was found-out she was no longer anon, a bit like a bank robber in a ski mask. Then Not. She signed the aps contract or accepted aps as conditions of job; just as falou was given a 2nd chance and choice of preacher or player; he accepted the conditions too. Both were foolish, both broke contract, both are stuck with their self inflicted blowback.
So, is abusing a minority group ‘legal’?
I haven’t heard of an opinion to the contrary. Sre you aware of any legal advice that it contravened a law?
Labor’s version of free speech: make it illegal to criticise (their favourite) religion.
Sre you aware of any legal advice that it contravened a law?
I’d go for breach of contract … and the law of torts to begin with …
once she was found-out
The doxed her you fool
Sre you aware of any legal advice that it contravened a law?
It was hypothetical. Which I thought would have been clear with the wavers I gave it.
Labor’s version of free speech: make it illegal to criticise (their favourite) religion.
Agreed, she went a bit far there in her jihad against a dick.
Speaking of what is legal and what isn’t.
I’m sure this will be found to be ‘legal’
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/the-government-claimed-this-woman-s-tax-return-now-she-s-taking-them-to-court
And this happens, even when the ‘valid reasons for not meeting obligations’ are onerous and unreasonable.
One in five who had support cut were later found by job agency to have had valid reason for not meeting obligations
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/aug/08/more-than-120000-people-whose-welfare-was-suspended-were-not-at-fault-data-shows?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
All to try and get a surplus. Paid for by the poor and the handicapped.
’d go for breach of contract … and the law of torts to begin with …
That’s absolutely fascinating TB. HOw would you go about that?
As suspected, according to the law, the public servant almost had to lose
#ChangeTheRules
Governments don’t like exposure, especially negative.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/08/social-media-is-a-dangerous-space-for-public-servants-they-are-being-locked-out-of-modern-life
Interesting (and kinda supports the decision, and some posters here who shall remain unnamed ……. yomm 😉 )
Doesn’t mean that the law isn’t wrong.
Yes, public servants have always been restricted in participation in public debate, and now there’s case law to support this. When case law extends to the private sector, you should be very pleased!
And I see ulman etal are at the wind wars again, with AER taking the wind generators to court over the SA system Black event
It alleged the companies failed to comply with performance requirements to ride through major disruptions and disturbances, and breached the National Electricity Rules.
………..
These alleged failures contributed to the black system event, and meant that AEMO [Australian Energy Market Operator] was not fully informed when responding to system-wide failures in South Australia in September 2016.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-07/regulator-legal-action-against-energy-companies-over-sa-blackout/11390400
Although, it appears they can’t blame ignorance, so just stupidity?
Giving testimony for the SA Parliamentary Inquiry into the blackouts, AEMO acknowledged it knew about the lower windfarm tolerance settings months before the blackout on 28 Sept 2016.
https://reneweconomy.com.au/aer-sues-four-wind-farm-companies-over-south-australian-blackout-56577/
When case law extends to the private sector, you should be very pleased!
yomm. As I pointed out, in one, he was publicly abusing customers, after being warned not to, in another, she was anonymously pointing out defects.
(When case law extends to the private sector, you should be very pleased!
Correct(-ish).
I’m almost perty sure that an (a)political) HCA, unanimously, left open to itself, purely by happenstance, and with utmost subtlety, a relatively easy path to (contra)distinguishing(s): by explicitly stressing its obliged/ing observance of the (un)coverage(s) of the decayed/ing remnants of the antiqu(at)ed figleaf of the (a)political) public(-service)/private(-sector) dichotomy. Or, something(s) like that.)
in another, she was anonymously pointing out defects.
Which all sounds very reasonable on the face of it, until you look at the relevant APS policy.
Then there’s this, under dos and don’ts:
https://www.apsc.gov.au/making-public-comment-and-participating-online
Yes, in the private sector this translates as – “Do not provide public commentary that adversely effects (or has the potential to effect) our business operations, our reputation, our commercial interests, or the confidence of our customers.”
Let’s see how that plays out with the rights of –
* banking employees to publicly discuss finance industry practices,
* airline employees discussing safety,
* transport discussing working hours,
Welcome to the consequences of overarching corporate intrusion into the ability of individuals to speak their mind.
Welcome to the consequences of overarching corporate intrusion into the ability of individuals to speak their mind.
Well, I’m guessing “gays will die on planes” is a bit different from “people will die on planes”
#justsaying
I don’t think the ARU will be relying on whether his opinions are homophobic or not, or religious or not.
I think they will mainly argue that his actions had the potential to cause damage to the reputation and commercial interests of the ARU, that they have policies to protect such interests. Therefore dismissal was reasonable.
The same argument can be applied to each of the examples I provided.
But go ahead, continue to support the intervention of employer policy into the ability of people to participate in a debate.
I think they will mainly argue that his actions had the potential to cause damage to the reputation and commercial interests of the ARU, that they have policies to protect such interests. Therefore dismissal was reasonable.
Not sure if I’m concerned that you agree with me or not?
But go ahead, continue to support the intervention of employer policy into the ability of people to participate in a debate.\
Not sure where you get your delusions from?
Not sure if I’m concerned that you agree with me or not?
That’s the ARU argument, I’m not endorsing it.
That’s the ARU argument, I’m not endorsing it.
whew 🙂
You have to feel bad for this person, being dealt such a bad hand in life.
I’m a male too! So how do you think I feel?
I’m a male too! So how do you think I feel?
With your hands?
I’m a male too!
Even more disgusting and shameful! How do you live with yourself?
The comments on that tweet are pure gold!
What a sorry excuse for a human being Rosanna is.
I’m considering becoming a male version….
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C5CHFA_enAU820AU830&biw=1577&bih=918&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=8MVLXam5NNn5rQH6nJrIAw&q=rachel+dolezal&oq=rach&gs_l=img.1.0.0i67j0l2j0i67l2j0l5.17710.22350..24805…2.0..0.269.1178.0j4j2……0….1..gws-wiz-img…….0i5i30.6HGPdQr_9ck
Government owned broadband? What could possibly go wrong?
(I’m considering becoming a male version….
No comment.)
What could possibly go wrong?
er, the libs…………..
er, the libs…………..
That’s the government part of government-owned broadband. Those who come up with a given scheme may not necessarily control it.
Those who come up with a given scheme may not necessarily control it.
And if the libs had kept to the plan that the experts devised, then we wouldn’t be in this shit.
But the libs had to be libs
That’s just one of the inherent flaws with governments getting involved with things better left to the market to sort out: the management can change at the drop of a hat.
I see the grubmint is trying their hardest to get their surplus
https://www.smh.com.au/national/this-is-incompetence-families-out-of-pocket-after-centrelink-glitch-20190806-p52eis.html
funny reading a bout freedomtimmy complaining about the RBA not doing enough, when the RBA had specifically said the grubmint need to stimulate the economy by borrowing
I can’t see it ending well
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/tim-wilson-accuses-rba-of-giving-up-on-stimulating-the-economy-20190807-p52esf.html
The Left in their Wokeness just destroy so much. Even women’s cricket
From the Courier Mail (behind a paywall)
“We should call it “sisterhood Sunday” — the greatest day in Australia’s female sporting history.
Last Sunday, Sally Fitzgibbons cruised to the world number one ranking in surfing. A few hours later, Ashleigh Barty — fresh from her French Open win — became Australia’s first tennis world number one in 16 years and the first Australian woman since 1976.
If that wasn’t enough, golfer Hannah Green (ranked a mere 114 in the world) won the Women’s PGA Championship. And to top the day off, the Australian women’s eight won gold at the World Rowing Cup in Poland.
It was a remarkable — and let’s face it, rare — achievement.
And so how do we celebrate this milestone? How do we bolster the numbers of girls in sport to ensure that Australian women as world champions are not a rare occurrence but a frequent reality?
Do we have a commitment to greater investment in women’s sport funding? Do we have a push for better pay for professional sportswomen?
No. We have national guidelines asking all sporting clubs to allow males to compete as females.”
When does the Left’s madness end
When does the Left’s madness end
lol. All of those achievements can probably thank ‘teh left’
ROFL
Here’s a hint of where you went wrong 😉
“From the Courier Mail (behind a paywall)” [snicker]
Mystery bags are ruining Teh Universe.
Go CFMMEU!!
Top official charged with receiving secret commissions…. but thus doesn’t reflect on the union. It’s a one off… like all those other ones
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/criminal-charges-for-senior-cfmmeu-official-over-alleged-secret-commissions-20190807-p52elr.html
Oh no, this can’t be happening!
Global meat-eating is on the rise, bringing surprising benefits
lol yomm
‘charged’
‘alleged’
We hear that so often wit the #CFMMEU
Then, months later, it quietly goes away with no prosecutions 😉
Seems junk science don’t know shit about real science, hey tony 😉
lol tosy, a Chinese butcher is booming, so all is good.
But I thought the Chinese were the new Nazis (or so our grubmint seem to think?)
Anyways, here’s
‘s some non junk sciences
https://skepticalscience.com/animal-agriculture-meat-global-warming.htm
Seems junk science don’t know shit about real science, hey tony 😉
You’d know all about junk science. You’ve fallen for it hook, line and sinker.
Yeah, I heard the Alarmist Broadcasting Corporation this morning. All global warming, all the time! “The IPCC stopped short of saying people shouldn’t eat meat”.
Stopped short of? In other words they didn’t say it. Not that the IPCC has the authority to dictate our diet.
Yet.
Kangaroo meat is the future – no methane, no land clearing, no grain…
You’ve fallen for it hook, line and sinker.
I tell you what, you listen to your <1% of scientists who are financed by foossil fuel companies, and I'll listen the remaining 99%+ from a broad range of backgrounds 😉
First they came for my barbecue …
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/am/beef-industry-responds-to-un-climate-report/11398470
I tell you what, you listen to your <1% of scientists who are financed by foossil fuel companies
Don’t forget Big Airline!
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/aviation/qantas-boss-warns-climate-hysteria-threatens-air-travel/news-story/aadd12c423ae9296d7eed0c6e0d3b2bd
and I’ll listen the remaining 99%+ from a broad range of backgrounds
Quoting that widely debunked statistic only goes to show how gullible you are. It doesn’t prove anything else.
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/amp/
yawns
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/24/scientific-consensus-on-humans-causing-global-warming-passes-99
I’m sorry this is happening to you.
First link bad, maybe?
http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm
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I see we’re linking to a lot of watts stuff. Laughable
https://www.carbonbrief.org/best-reconfirm-warming-is-happening
The head of Australia’s central bank says raising Newstart would deliver a bigger economic boost in the short term than cutting taxes for high income earners.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/rba-boss-says-raising-newstart-more-effective-than-tax-cuts-for-the-wealthy?cid=news:socialshare:twitter
But not for the high income earners. Dopey dipshit.
I see we’re linking to a lot of watts stuff. Laughable
Well The Grauniad seems to be where you find most of your rubbish, so it’s only fair.
so it’s only fair.
I’m not sure if the Grauniad has a long history of getting science wrong like watt has
(Still nobody mentions the grammar in this thread’s heading.)
really isi ?
Probably. But there seems to be “a” word missing.
That`s a cracker of a site disclaimer blubbers, facebookistan could have saved itself a lot of crap from govt/s if it had thought of it.
kangaroo meat, agree, we have it semi-regularly, great beef swap.
Can`t say l agree with this weeks teabagPanic (due to beef fart) on eating beef tho. Some folks have died (suicide) by shutting themselves in the garage with their car running, others have accidentally died, gassed by various exhausts, gas heaters, coal flu, chimney leak or blocked. Just how many moo`ers would we need to shove into our garage to suicide. Even if govt/s outlaw`d beef coz-of fart, 8-ish billion lentil-fueled primates will still produce plenty of fart to help melt the beautiful grey ice-block of greenland.
Amusingly foreseeable teabagPanic over plastic waste at coag meeting too.
Green tax on sausages a step too far for Germans
New Michael Moore-backed doc tackles alternative energy
Link bad?
https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/michael-moore-backed-doc-tackles-alternative-energy-64844048
another quote from tosy’s moores fillum
“It was kind of crushing to discover that the things I believed in weren’t real, first of all, and then to discover not only are the solar panels and wind turbines not going to save us … but (also) that there is this whole dark side of the corporate money … It dawned on me that these technologies were just another profit center.“
Well, DOH
Of course an emerging technology that is proving to be cheaper than fossil fuels is going to attract ‘corporate’ shysters. But, isn’t that just the free market at work?
Meanwhile, in answer to but where is the electricity coming from?
Here’s a link 😉
https://reneweconomy.com.au/opennem-widget/
Guess in oz we don’t have the same issue with corporates as the US, as our grubmint props up the dark money with taxpayers money
Federal energy minister Angus Taylor will form a new taskforce to investigate the implications of the looming closure of the Liddell power station, a move that will continue pressure on owner AGL Energy to keep the ailing coal-fired generator operating for as long as possible.
Taylor said the taskforce, to be established in partnership with the NSW Government, will consider “all options”, and did not rule out using taxpayer money to extend the life of the plant. AGL responded by saying doing so would cost “a lot of money” and any such move “does not stack up.”
The announcement of the taskforce – whose members have not yet been named – has already been slammed by environmental groups as a delay tactic and is a pretext to the government to pour money into ageing coal infrastructure.
https://reneweconomy.com.au/angus-taylors-liddell-taskforce-slammed-as-guise-for-propping-up-coal-69572/