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‘Robodebt’ Class Action Lawsuit could bring down the Coalition Government!

September 17, 2019

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The Coalition government has is in full-blown panic mode following the shock announcement that Melbourne based law firm Gordon Legal is launching a class action lawsuit against the Federal Government over its so-called “robodebt” scheme.

UNLAWFUL CONDUCT!

Peter Gordon, a senior partner at the law firm, said the collection of money based solely on a computer algorithm was unlawful.

“We’ll allege that to simply collect money from hundreds of thousands of people by the simplistic application of an imperfect computer algorithm is wrong.”

“We think that before the Government docked the pensions or took the tax refunds of widows and carers and aged pensioners it needed to have better evidence, it needed to consider each case individually.”

Mr Gordon said he expected up to 160,000 people could fall under the class action, and the action would seek both repayment of falsely claimed debts and compensation for affected people.

He said the system had unlawfully taken tens of millions of dollars from Australians, and he was “comfortably satisfied” the suit met the requirements of a class action.

“Not every case needs to be exactly the same. They only have to be roughly similar,” he said.

The Federal Government Minister responsible for the scheme Stuart Robert is so far ‘missing in action’ but is no stranger to controversy.

Last year, the former Assistant Treasurer was forced to repay $37,975 in ‘residential internet fees’ he had claimed as ministerial expenses.

At the time, Robert claimed that he had “connectivity” issues despite his semi-rural home being located approximately 15km from the heart of Surfers Paradise.

He claimed a total of $62,814.52 for his residential internet costs, and while these costs were consistently high, there was a noticeable and significant spike in Robert’s residential internet expenses in 2016.

This spike prompted speculation about the reason for his high residential internet costs. Around the same time, coincidentally, the church where Robert and his family worship, METRO Pentecostal Church on the Gold Coast, launched their Christian TV streaming service.

In 2012, Robert delivered a speech to Parliament that had sections of it written by a lobbyist for Gold Coast property developer Sunland.

The following year, he and his wife were gifted gold Rolex watches, valued at $50,000 each from a Chinese billionaire businessman.

 

 

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361 Comments leave one →
  1. Neil of Sydney permalink
    September 17, 2019 8:06 pm

  2. Tom R permalink
    September 18, 2019 8:19 am

    Reminder

    nils still a fucking idiot

  3. Tom R permalink
    September 18, 2019 8:47 am

    I haven’t been able to find the quote, but I heard the lawyer saying that the debts are being told to prove their income from over a decade ago with data their own website advised people they need only keep for 6 months.

    Mind you, the libs wrote the laws, so…………… illegality doesn’t mean shit these days

  4. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 18, 2019 9:48 am

    ‘Big deal’: John Setka plays down his conviction for harassment

    Of course! Why would a conviction for being a harassing, sexist arsehole bother this prick?

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/big-deal-john-setka-plays-down-his-conviction-for-harassment-20190913-p52r3n.html

  5. Tom R permalink
    September 18, 2019 10:46 am

    Of course! Why would a conviction for being a harassing, sexist arsehole bother this prick?

    Because the one he “harassed” didn’t want him charged perhaps?

    #justsaying 😉

  6. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 18, 2019 11:28 am

    Yeah, that’s a good excuse! I’ve never heard of the victim of domestic violence being reluctant to press charges.

    Has that ever happened before?

  7. Tom R permalink
    September 18, 2019 11:33 am

    Has that ever happened before?

    What, a domestic dispute? You’ve never had one?

    Do you know any of the context of the dispute, or just the narrow leaked extracts?

    Do you recall a guy called Peter Slipper?

    #auspol never changes. Thugs wear blue ties, and racists stick together

  8. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 18, 2019 11:43 am

    I think his union supported this organisation, and he pleaded guilty to the criminal charges.

    Do you think this domestic violence is excusable?

    https://www.whiteribbon.org.au/understand-domestic-violence/types-of-abuse/

    Domestic violence can involve more than just physical abuse”

  9. Tom R permalink
    September 18, 2019 12:26 pm

    Domestic violence can involve more than just physical abuse

    No shit sherlock

    So can arguments you fuckwit ( 😉 )

  10. Tom R permalink
    September 18, 2019 12:28 pm

    From your own link yomm

    “The perpetrator consistently makes statements that negatively label a person.”

    Consistently, this was a one of case in a heated argument, that has been splashed across the front pages ala Slipper

  11. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 18, 2019 12:47 pm

    Also on the link…

    -name calling
    -yelling, insulting or swearing at them (also known as verbal abuse).

    But that’s fine, you can continue to make excuses for this proven thug, woman abuser, criminal and misogynist

  12. Tom R permalink
    September 18, 2019 12:57 pm

    But that’s fine, you can continue …………. to take things out of context

    Everything it seems

    I yelled once, that makes me guilty of verbal abuse 😯

  13. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 18, 2019 1:29 pm

    The type of abuse used by Setka isn’t typical of any domestic disagreement I’ve ever seen or experienced.

    If I heard any neighbours using that type of language, I’d call the police. It is just as abusive when it it by text.

    But you’re welcome to continue to defend the proven criminal domestic abuser.

  14. Tom R permalink
    September 18, 2019 1:53 pm

    The type of abuse used by Setka isn’t typical of any domestic disagreement I’ve ever seen or experienced.

    Says the guy who jokes about his ‘trophy’ girl ROFL

  15. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 18, 2019 2:34 pm

    You’re equating that kind of thing with Setka’s proven criminal domestic abuser?

    Bizarre.

  16. Tom R permalink
    September 18, 2019 3:16 pm

    You’re equating that kind of thing

    Oh fuck, that’s rich

    Setka’s proven criminal domestic abuser?

    His wife supports him
    His wife didn’t want to go to court
    The pigs made her, against her will
    Her private pain is now front page fodder, for purely political purposes

    Thanks CONservatives

  17. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 18, 2019 3:47 pm

    I’ve never heard of the wife of a criminal domestic abuser being reluctant to press charges against their abuser.

    That must be the first time that’s ever happened.

  18. Tom R permalink
    September 18, 2019 4:00 pm

    being reluctant to press charges against their abuser.

    Except, she wasn’t “being reluctant”

    She didn’t want to!

    The CONservatives made her a victim far more than her husband ever did

  19. Tom R permalink
    September 18, 2019 4:07 pm

  20. Walrus permalink
    September 18, 2019 4:32 pm

    Well how surprising………………………………Not

    TomR defending a wife abuser because the wife abuser is on his side of the political fence.

    By the way NSW Police Force quite often charges the wife basher where the wife refuses to press charges. nothing new in that.

    “The CONservatives made her a victim far more than her husband ever did”

    I presume you mean the arch conservatives of the Daniel Andrews government ROFLMAOAY

  21. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 18, 2019 4:33 pm

    Yeah. It’s also really unusual for a woman not to want to press charges against their abusive husband. That’s me we happened before and it never has anything to do with control and bullying.

    This case is absolutely unique and Setka is a fine and non abusive family man. And admission of guilt is no proof of guilt. Particularly in domestic violence.

  22. Walrus permalink
    September 18, 2019 5:49 pm

    Meantime the illegals get another reprieve…………..

    “A Tamil family fighting deportation has been granted a 24-hour lifeline by the Federal Court.

    An hours-long hearing in Melbourne on Wednesday failed to reach a resolution in the high-profile case of Priya and Nades Murugappanand their daughters Tharunicaa, two, and Kopika, four, who are being held in detention on Christmas Island awaiting the court’s ruling.

    Federal government plans to return the family to Sri Lanka were put on hold by a previous injunction which expired at 4pmWednesday, with Justice Mordy Bromberg making orders which stretch until 4pm Thursday.”

    https://www.news.com.au/national/courts-law/tamil-deportation-case-extended-by-a-day/news-story/0923bd0c9c3c76e618f8771bd166e984

    Did I read the name Justice Mordy Bromberg ?

    Is that the same Mordy Bromberg that ran for ALP preselection for the seat of Burke which was won by Brendan O’Çonnor in 2001 ?

    Is that the same Mordy Bromberg that presided over the Andrew Bolt defamation trial ?

    Interesting isn’t it ?

    A Judge who is now the puppet of “I’m No One’s Girl” Kristina Kenneally

  23. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 19, 2019 10:22 am

    No one was complaining that criticising Sam Dastayri was anti Iranian. So why is this case anti Chinese?

    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-19/gladys-liu-chinese-australian-community/11523234

  24. Walrus permalink
    September 19, 2019 11:43 am

    LOL the Queen of Wokeness just got hoisted by his own petard

    “Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has apologised after a photo emerged of him wearing brownface during a school event in 2001.
    “I shouldn’t have done it. I should have known better, but I didn’t,” he told reporters on a plane today.
    “And I’m really sorry.”………..””

    Couldn’t happen to a nicer fuckwit

    Hilarious !

    https://www.9news.com.au/world/justin-trudeau-brownface-photo-emerges-canadian-pm-apologises/c2583c2a-05fe-48c3-b3de-8b3fe0c4c761

  25. TB Queensland permalink
    September 19, 2019 4:47 pm

    This bunch of fucking idiots has even privatised what used to be government owned lotteries … what fucking fools are governing and allowing private companies to pillage the place!

    Even JBP ran the Queensland hospital system on the Golden Casket tickets!

    I’m not a gambler – I’ve never been impressed with statistical odds of betting … thank whatsisname … but instead of creating profit for shareholders and companies, lotto could – nay should – be funding many government services …

    Reducing taxes with no other source of revenue means no services … dumb and fucking dumber …

    From September 30, tickets for games including Powerball, Oz Lotto and Saturday Lotto will go up by as much as 60 cents.

    Regular entries for Powerball and Oz Lotto, which gives you 12 games, will jump by 10 cents and 15 cents respectively.

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/money/wealth/powerball-150-million-lotto-price-of-lottery-tickets-set-to-rise/news-story/f5086a369784e2e1b46989add0041cea

  26. TB Queensland permalink
    September 19, 2019 4:58 pm

    I’ve never heard of the wife of a criminal domestic abuser being reluctant to press charges against their abuser.

    My mother didn’t (and I know of more) … and I agree with TR … you really are a fuckwit! (You are either really ignorant of the real world, or, have led a very closeted existence)

    You have become obsessed with Setka* you need to seek help …

    *Setka has a bombastic nature … but after reading about all the construction sites deaths and injuries recently (although I don’t like the man) I can understand his frustration …

    Deaths in the workplace are criminal offences in some states but I have yet to see any directors or CEO’s charged!

  27. TB Queensland permalink
    September 19, 2019 5:03 pm

    The Coalition government has is in full-blown panic mode following the shock announcement that Melbourne based law firm Gordon Legal is launching a class action lawsuit against the Federal Government over its so-called “robodebt” scheme.

    I know who will win this! Go Peter Gordon!

  28. Walrus permalink
    September 19, 2019 5:40 pm

    Just like kittens they will eventually open their eyes………..

    From an address to be given to a parliamentary committee tomorrow

    “31 advanced economies — the likes of the US, UK, Switzerland, France, Sweden, South Korea, and Finland — all rely on nuclear power in their energy mix. Yet here we’re stuck in a time warp,” AWU national secretary Daniel Walton The Australian.

    “Continuing to adopt a position of ideological extremism on nuclear technology is an economic own-goal we can’t afford to keep kicking. Because Australia’s energy sector is a shameful mess.”

  29. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 19, 2019 6:26 pm

    I think you’ve lost the plot TB. Fuckwit? Have you checked the mirror?

    Setka is divisive and contentious, it may have been Albanese that made him into an issue. As well as his own criminal behaviour.

  30. Neil of Sydney permalink
    September 19, 2019 6:49 pm

    Results for the May 2018 budget have just been posted. Deficit less than $1B down from a forecast deficit of $14B in May 2018

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-19/federal-government-budget-billions-better-off-than-expected/11527104

  31. Tony permalink
    September 19, 2019 7:02 pm

    The Coalition government has is in full-blown panic mode

    Does Labor know about this shocking news? I’ve been listening to question time this week and they haven’t asked a single question about it. Maybe Peter Gordon should be doing their tactics.

  32. Tom R permalink
    September 20, 2019 5:52 am

    Deficit less than $1B down from a forecast deficit of $14B in May 2018

    I’m sure the disabled are happy to hear that

  33. Tom R permalink
    September 20, 2019 6:12 am

    These people are just fucking sadistic

    Higher iron ore prices and a $4.6bn underspend on the NDIS have returned the Australian budget to balance for the first time in more than a decade, but low consumer spending continues to be a drag on the economy.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/19/australias-budget-effectively-in-balance-after-46bn-underspend-on-ndis?CMP=share_btn_tw

  34. September 20, 2019 8:37 am

    So, this morning I was catching the tram up Collins Street, and this “fuller figure” sized person boards. It occurred to me that she could be pregnant.

    In circumstances like these, the gentlemanly thing to do would be to stand up and offer her my seat, but then I took another glance and it looked like she could actually just be “really fat”, so I thought, nah, fuck it.

  35. Tony permalink
    September 20, 2019 9:26 am

    Not to mention giving your seat to a woman is sexist and a cynical demonstration of the power of the patriarchy.

    You did the woke thing remaining in your seat.

  36. Tom R permalink
    September 20, 2019 9:52 am

    so I thought, nah, fuck it.

    Did she say yes? 😉

  37. Tom R permalink
    September 20, 2019 10:02 am

    This is just getting excruciating

  38. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 20, 2019 10:49 am

    Here I am, a mature, retired guy, and no one gives up their seat for me.

    Later I’ll be at the airport, and because it is just over the border in Queensland, there will be hundreds of fat types, all wobbling around with too much luggage. They’ll have caused a dozen all-you-can-eat restaurants to make a loss.

  39. TB Queensland permalink
    September 20, 2019 11:16 am

    “Continuing to adopt a position of ideological extremism on nuclear technology is an economic own-goal we can’t afford to keep kicking. Because Australia’s energy sector is a shameful mess.”

    You and your families will guarantee waste removal and maintenance … I take it?

    You have heard of Three Mile Island? (The China Syndrome) Chernobyl? Fukushima? ALL human error disasters that could have literally, in one case at least, destroyed the world …

    There are much safer and user friendly systems to generate power than miniature suns!

    Here are some possible reasons why the court might consider it worthwhile to hear Cardinal George Pell’s ­appeal

    Because the political and judicial system in Australia is infiltrated by the Vatican … ironically also by China, the opposite end of religious nutcases, ideological nutcases …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Here I am, a mature, retired guy, and no one gives up their seat for me.

    So many answers – not enough time … (they would just float over your head anyway)

  40. TB Queensland permalink
    September 20, 2019 11:18 am

    I’m, still chuckling at this:

    You did the woke (sic) thing remaining in your seat.

  41. Tom R permalink
    September 20, 2019 11:23 am

    Glad to be on a forum of angrier (mature?) old (retired?) men (guys) complaining about having to stand on their own feet.

    No wonder Millenials are having the last laugh 🙂

  42. TB Queensland permalink
    September 20, 2019 11:25 am

    Local councils will be forced to hold citizenship ceremonies on January 26 under new federal government rules – and will also have to enforce strict dress standards for the presentations.

    The move cements a push against dozens of councils that have cancelled Australia Day celebrations out of respect for indigenous people.

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison has previously declared thongs and boardshorts are inappropriate clobber for citizenship ceremonies, although the new code will not dictate standards.

    However, councils will be stripped of their right to hold the ceremonies if they refuse to comply.

    “Australia Day is a chance for all Australians to celebrate our successful multicultural nation,” Immigration Minister David Coleman said on Friday.

    “We want as many people as possible to receive the privilege of citizenship on January 26.”

    Councils will also have to create and enforce dress standards for citizenship ceremonies. National and cultural dress will still be permitted.

    Very 1930’s … Seig! Talk about Nanny State …

    And here I was thinking thongs and boardies were cultural dress for Aussies?

    Next we’ll all have to attend “Re-education Camps”

  43. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 20, 2019 11:34 am

    I tend to think gaining citizenship is as important as a job interview. So that’s a reasonable standard of attire.

    A storeman doesn’t wear a suit to an interview, he will wear neat clothes. That doesn’t seem to be a problem to me.

  44. Tom R permalink
    September 20, 2019 12:28 pm

    I tend to think gaining citizenship is as important as a job interview.

    You also think people should stand up for you, someone who brags about surfing all the time

    Excuse me while I don't give a shit for your opinion. 😉

  45. Walrus permalink
    September 20, 2019 12:52 pm

    “You have heard of Three Mile Island? (The China Syndrome) Chernobyl? Fukushima? ALL human error disasters that could have literally, in one case at least, destroyed the world …”

    In the first 2 cases ask yourself this question…………………….Would you prefer to fly to London in a Boeing 707 (circa 1958 to 1979) or a brand new Boeing 787 Dreamliner.

    In the second case when was the last time Australia experienced an earthquake severe enough that it caused a tsunami ?

    As far as waste is concerned I think we might be able to find some space to store it

  46. Walrus permalink
    September 20, 2019 12:55 pm

    “This is just getting excruciating”

    The Defence should be entitled to know the nature of the psychological conditions that the alleged victim was treated for especially if it included delusional thoughts

  47. Tony permalink
    September 20, 2019 1:00 pm

    You did the woke (sic) thing

    You really are an ill-humoured and ignorant person of advanced years.

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/woke?s=t

  48. Tom R permalink
    September 20, 2019 1:45 pm

    “This is just getting excruciating”

    FYI, as excruciating as it is to explain this slowly to defenders of convicted pedophiles

    The Victim is not “alleged” He is a proven victim, that a major broadsheet toilet paper is casting assertions on on the national stage

  49. Walrus permalink
    September 20, 2019 1:54 pm

    Take the albeit American “woke” test

    https://www.thequiz.com/are-you-really-woke-take-the-test/

  50. Walrus permalink
    September 20, 2019 1:59 pm

    “He is a proven victim”

    Not at the time they were denied access

  51. Tom R permalink
    September 20, 2019 2:10 pm

    Not at the time

    You mean, at the time that they convicted pell of being a Pedophile, they had no victim?

    “This is just getting excruciating”

  52. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 20, 2019 2:17 pm

    A fair trial means that anything relevant has to be considered.

    That applies to everyone, even Pell. Or does he warrant a different set of rules?

  53. Tom R permalink
    September 20, 2019 2:31 pm

    A fair trial means that anything relevant has to be considered.

    He’s already failed one appeal, so that court seemed to think he’s had a fair trial

    Or does he warrant a different set of rules?

    Apparently

    He has been found guilty, by a court of law, and his peers

    If every criminal who continually tried to appeal their decision was considered innocent, we’d have few actual criminals now, wouldn’t we 😉

  54. TB Queensland permalink
    September 20, 2019 2:36 pm

    I tend to think gaining citizenship is as important as a job interview.

    As important! Citizenship and a job interview … as important?

    Jesus fucking wept!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    In the first 2 cases ask yourself this question…………………….Would you prefer to fly to London in a Boeing 707 (circa 1958 to 1979) or a brand new Boeing 787 Dreamliner.

    Relevance … in the first two cases it was human error … as I stated … not state of the art … (I think you are referring to technology here) … I refer you to – Boeing 737 circa 2018/19 …

    In the second case when was the last time Australia experienced an earthquake severe enough that it caused a tsunami ?

    The THIRD (I think you mean) was also human error …

    Refer: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/oct/15/fukushima-disaster-avoided-nuclear-plant

    As far as waste is concerned I think we might be able to find some space to store it

    Hope you’ve got a big garage …

    The power is great from nuclear fission* … but the waste and by products are horrendous … to build nuclear to negate fossil fuel burning is just creating a greater long term hazard for future generations – than fixing the one we have right now …

    What we need is a nuclear fusion breakthrough!

    Coupled with cheap energy storage … batteries have come a long way since wet lead acid monsters … but there is still more research going on …

    This is interesting:

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/sep/20/the-climate-crisis-explained-in-10-charts

  55. Tom R permalink
    September 20, 2019 2:48 pm

    As far as waste is concerned I think we might be able to find some space to store it

    Any ideas, cos numerous countries are running out of options

  56. TB Queensland permalink
    September 20, 2019 2:53 pm

    You really are an ill-humoured and ignorant person of advanced years.

    Perhaps you are the ill-humoured one? (I did say I was chuckling) … ToM, reb and I, often tell folk “I think you meant” (“you’re, your” is my downfall apparently… ’tis a TGT tradition … no-one else gets sensitive about it) …

    … my years may be “advanced” more than yours … and everything functions perfectly well (thankfully) … “ignorant”? – my one advantage is that I have been privileged to see, hear, taste, touch and indeed smell many experiences in many countries and cultures – some that you never will … (and you, some that I never will) …

    Loosen up … 🙂

  57. TB Queensland permalink
    September 20, 2019 2:56 pm

    Take the albeit American “woke” test

    Thanks, Wally, I’m still chuckling after reading that … learn something new every day …

  58. TB Queensland permalink
    September 20, 2019 2:59 pm

    Excuse my iggorance, ToSY … not up on Black Power …

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

    Thanks to Wally for the enlightenment …

  59. Tony permalink
    September 20, 2019 3:14 pm

    no-one else gets sensitive about it

    Perhaps. There’s also no one else sanctimonious enough to use “(sic)” when quoting someone else’s mistake. But it boomeranged on you this time – because you were ignorant and ill-informed.

  60. September 20, 2019 3:31 pm

    The Kids WOKE up

  61. Walrus permalink
    September 20, 2019 3:49 pm

    “The Kids WOKE up”

    Are you going to also count the kids that didn’t bother attending. Probably because they like their plastic encased mobiles and tablets and their plastic X Box/Playstation and their flights to Bali for holidays and their TVs plus being dropped off in their parents fossil fuel guzzling Landcruiser to school each day.

    Only when the kids at the rallies agree to forever forgoe all the above and when the fuckwit celebrities like De Caprio/Clooney/Pitt el al agre to forgo all the above……………………………………………..only then will I consider there might be a problem.

    Somehow I dont think I’ll have to worry about it

  62. Tony permalink
    September 20, 2019 3:50 pm

  63. Tony permalink
    September 20, 2019 3:57 pm

    “Australian protesters want the Federal Government to commit to:

    No new coal, oil or gas projects
    100 per cent renewable energy generation and exports by 2030
    Funding for “a just transition and job creation for all fossil-fuel industry workers and communities”

    That’ll happen.🙄

    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-20/school-strike-for-climate-draws-thousands-to-australian-rallies/11531612?section=politics

  64. TB Queensland permalink
    September 20, 2019 4:05 pm

    But it boomeranged on you this time …

    Hey, I’ve been ambushed before …

    Thanks for acknowledging my apology …

  65. Tony permalink
    September 20, 2019 4:12 pm

    Thanks for acknowledging my apology …

    Guffaw! You mean this non-apology:

    “Excuse my iggorance, ToSY … not up on Black Power …

    Thanks to Wally for the enlightenment …”

  66. September 20, 2019 4:20 pm

    “I’m, still chuckling at this..”

    So I am…

    I had to look up what he meant… 😆

  67. September 20, 2019 4:25 pm

    I’m surprised that so many kids showed up, given that they’re usually too busy staring into their smartphones texting each other about how they’re “so offended” by pretty much “everything.”

  68. September 20, 2019 4:26 pm

    BTW, I thought I would try a bottle of red wine from Aldi the other day.

    I won’t make that mistake twice.

  69. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 20, 2019 6:21 pm

    I had a look at the gathering in Byron Bay. I think attendance of school children there was compulsory.

    …and is there a child, if given the option of classroom or hanging around a protest on a Friday afternoon wouldn’t choose the protest?

  70. Tony permalink
    September 20, 2019 7:02 pm

    I’d have gone to the beach.

  71. TB Queensland permalink
    September 21, 2019 8:47 am

    …and is there a child, if given the option of classroom or hanging around a protest on a Friday afternoon wouldn’t choose the protest?

    And that demonstrates just how serious the kids think it is!

    Can’t wait for ’em to start voting …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I won’t make that mistake twice.

    Can’t buy alcohol in supermarkets in Qld …

    WTF did the red come from? Oz or somewhere “exotic” like Kazakhstan?

  72. Neil of Sydney permalink
    September 21, 2019 5:32 pm

    Deficit less than $1B down from a forecast deficit of $14B in May 2018
    I’m sure the disabled are happy to hear that

    You have just explained why debt always goes up under Labor. You could make that argument for not cutting govt spending anywhere. The GFC was caused by reckless spending and lending. The world has learnt nothing from the last GFC but just increased govt debt when we should have been reducing it.

    The next GFC will be worse than the last. Australia was debt free in 2007. Since then we have racked up $400B of govt debt with nothing to show for it. WE could have built 5 of Labors Rolls Royce NBNs with that money

  73. Da Teabag permalink
    September 21, 2019 7:59 pm

    The near miss china syndrome is only one of `some` in yankeeland, along with a couple in canadia. The fukashima was take-out by tsunami, Not earthquake, which is caused by continental plates shattering and grinding under extreme pressure. No coastline is immune from a tsunami blubbers. You are quite daft if you think `anything` in clowntown could provide the leadership, strength or oversight needed to run nukies properly, Look at wireCo and roboDebt. There is no `profit` from dead irradiated consumers, and wiping out `surrounding` investments like pyrpat and fukishima.

    France has the world’s second-largest fleet of nuclear reactors

    Wear are my parrots? They should be here screeching and crapping in their kids seed dish. l saw on my abc24 there is something wrong with the jonestown `medical` nukie reactor. So l goggled reactor. Not only is our medical reactor making nooze this goodnewsweek, so is the japs fukishima nukie, and FIVE of Le-Fr0gs nukies. Here`s a taste.

    PARIS (Reuters) ; At least five nuclear reactors operated by French utility EDF might have problems with weldings on their steam generators, a fault which has raised fears of closures, France`s nuclear regulator was quoted as saying.

  74. TB Queensland permalink
    September 22, 2019 3:39 pm

    “When a big industrial country like Germany turns away from nuclear and coal and transitions step-by-step towards meeting its energy needs entirely with renewable energies, that sends a strong signal to other parts of the world,” Schulze said.

    Germany aims to close down all its coal-powered plants by 2038 at the latest. They have a collective production capacity of 42.5 gigawatts. By 2030, they should be producing no more than 17 gigawatts.

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2019/09/22/germany-pledge-to-outlaw-coal/

  75. Neil of Sydney permalink
    September 22, 2019 5:19 pm

    Wonderful. After destroying our car industry the ALP/Greens want to destroy our biggest export – coal

  76. TB Queensland permalink
    September 22, 2019 7:03 pm

    Audi, BMW, VW, Mercedes Benz, Porsche, Opel, Alpina, Bitter, Gumpert, Isdera, Keinath.

    German brands … still manufacturing …

    Our “car industry” was owned by overseas companies – USA and Japan … but the LIEberals killed it via “Treasurer” (sic) Joe Hockey (puff – puff) …

    Australia only ever had ONE company – Holden … want to know its history:

    The company was founded in 1856 as a saddlery manufacturer in South Australia. In 1908, it moved into the automotive field, becoming a subsidiary of the United States-based General Motors (GM) in 1931, when the company was renamed General Motors-Holden’s Ltd. It was renamed Holden Ltd in 1998, and General Motors-Holden in 2005.

    And LIEberal wankers complained about the “humongous” wages car assembly workers took home … particularly the ones who think a screwdriver is a drink …

    Take your time … BUT!

    40/50,000 people (And their FAMILIES) lost their income because of more LIEberal Party ignorance of how the country (and world) actually works!

    Read this:

    https://www.tai.org.au/node/451

    And this:

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/australias-car-industry-one-year-from-closing-its-doors-20151013-gk7ip0.html

    And this:

    It concluded the economy was $21.5 billion better off because of government subsidies to the car industry and nearly 40,000 jobs would be lost if car makers pulled out of Australia this decade.

    Chamber chief executive Tony Weber said even it was surprised by the findings.

    “When you compare the level of assistance provided by the Government, which is less than $500 million a year, the benefit for the economy is extremely large so this is very conservative modelling,” he said.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-04/car-industry-subsidies-worthwhile-study-concludes/5066938

  77. TB Queensland permalink
    September 22, 2019 7:07 pm

    BTW – the MINING INDUSTRY – is subsidised over $10 billion a year (not $500 million over four years) …

    Taxes (not paid) are another subject altogether!

  78. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 22, 2019 7:18 pm

    Got a link on that $10 billion?

  79. Neil of Sydney permalink
    September 22, 2019 7:22 pm

    No. Like all lefties you mislead and deceive people. In 2006 we made 25% of cars. By 2013 that had crashed to only 10%. When Ford announced they were leaving when Gillard was PM the industry was dead. Industry died because people stopped buying aussie made cars. Blame the consumer for not buying locally made cars and the manufacturers for making cars nobody wanted to buy. and perhaps the govt for giving them money with no strings attached

    BTW subsidies are still available And now Labor wants to destroy our coal industry

    https://www.business.gov.au/assistance/automotive-transformation-scheme

  80. Tom R permalink
    September 23, 2019 8:44 am

    I think attendance of school children there was compulsory.

    Got a link to that yomm 😉

  81. Tom R permalink
    September 23, 2019 9:05 am

    What is it with Conservatives and pedophiles?

    Brian Houston, the Hillsong preacher that Prime Minister Scott Morrison is accused of attempting to bring to the White House, remains under police investigation for failing to report his father’s sexual abuse of children.

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2019/09/23/nsw-police-investigation-brian-houston/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Morning%20News%20-%2020190923

  82. Tom R permalink
    September 23, 2019 9:19 am

    WE could have built 5 of Labors Rolls Royce NBNs with that money

    lol, just saw this (by accident)

    Instead, we built half of one for twice as much

    Well done pedophile lovers

  83. Walrus permalink
    September 23, 2019 10:40 am

    This is hilarious………..

    From the Australian today…………….

    The British Labour Party will go into the next general election with a firm plan – derided by critics as “an act of national self-harm’’ – to abolish all private schools and redistribute their properties and investments.

    Labour’s dramatic education policy, agreed at its annual conference this morning, would see private schools integrated into the state sector if it won the election.

    The education plan is just the latest in a raft of far-left Labour policies under leader Jeremy Corbyn and shadow chancellor John McDonnell, who want to nationalise key government services such as transport and housing.

    While a general election has not yet been called, the ongoing Brexit uncertainty and parliamentary upheaval has increased the chances of one being held soon.

    Labour members voted that if they were in government, all British private schools would have all public subsidies and tax privileges, including business rate exemptions and charitable status withdrawn. The education policy approved by the conference also says “endowments, investments and properties held by private schools to be redistributed democratically and fairly across the country’s educational institutions’’.

    This is great news for Boris. Bring on the election

    Hopefully Tanya will insist on something similar and consign the ALP to the dustbin of hisory

  84. Walrus permalink
    September 23, 2019 10:40 am

    “history”

  85. Tom R permalink
    September 23, 2019 10:53 am

    all British private schools would have all public subsidies and tax privileges, including business rate exemptions and charitable status withdrawn.

    GOOD

    Public money shouldn’t be spent in private gratification, until there is enough spare public money to do so.

    Which really should go against these ‘small government’ types.

  86. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 23, 2019 12:26 pm

    Public money shouldn’t be spent in private gratification

    I don’t think you were saying that when the ALP was spending $$$$$$$$$$ millions and millions and… on performing arts centres etc in EVERY private school around.

  87. Tom R permalink
    September 23, 2019 12:36 pm

    on performing arts centres etc in EVERY private school around.

    They were

    A), working within the environment they found themselves in
    B) Distributing funds it evenly across all students (unlike now)
    C) Was a Stimulus, not an education expense (although, it continues to add benefit to education, which aint a bad stimulus 😉

  88. September 23, 2019 2:00 pm

    Its all fcuking graft 0l`cock. The more graft da-corps get, the larger donation pay-to-play team/s receive from da-corps for next election. Da-industry is irrelevent.

    ____

    Sooner or later the trump-train will return to london blubbers. Both obstructing-teabags and corbyns dishwaters will be joining the legacy outlets under the wheels, while theNigel and theBoris will be riding.

    ____

    reuters .. France has the world’s second-largest fleet of nuclear reactors behind the United States, but a spate of technical problems, coupled with hitches at reactors under construction, has tarnished EDF’s image as a leader in nuclear technology.

    At least five nuclear reactors are affected by this problem,” Le Figaro newspaper quoted Bernard Doroszczuk, head of the ASN regulator, as saying.

    EDF has advised that in around a week it will give an exact number of facilities affected,” Doroszczuk added.

    A spokesman for EDF said that there was no plan to shut down the reactors involved for the time being, but the situation could change and it would be for ASN to decide.

    The spokesman added that EDF could also decide to halt the affected reactors.

    We are carrying out an in-depth investigation of every part in the reactors that could be impacted by the issue. Based on the investigation, we will determine the remedial options.

    @-there you are parrots, there`s something to screech about. Now head off to 2gb to learn ya`lines.

    @-l also want to see some quality screeching on surplus mythology.

  89. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 23, 2019 3:08 pm

    Yeah!! Lots of funding for private schools is fine, as long as the ALP does it!

  90. Tom R permalink
    September 23, 2019 4:07 pm

    Lots of funding for private schools is fine, as long as the ALP does it!

    yomm continues down his own fantasy I-Land, ignorant of the realities around him

    yor becoming as thick as nil

  91. September 23, 2019 5:14 pm

    Aaron Mate is no fan of theRonald, but tinfoil`osy will love this Video as much as l did. You-know-who not so much. (-:

    The IG`s report into the FBI`s alleged abuse of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act is about to be released. The Grayzone`s Aaron Mate tells Planet America`s Chas Licciardello what we can expect .. and why he`s been deeply suspicious of Russiagate since the beginning. @-haw haw haw

  92. TB Queensland permalink
    September 24, 2019 9:59 am

    Chuckle!

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/travel/melbourne-a-decade-behind-when-it-comes-to-new-infrastructure/news-story/0fd960efb5e2a10b9b1009c88b8454b0

    And Brisbane is years ahead of Sydney!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Got a link on that $10 billion?

    Yep … just Google it … or have a look at this for 2019 ..

    https://www.marketforces.org.au/campaigns/ffs/tax-based-subsidies/

    I bet you got other kids to do your homework too …

  93. Tom R permalink
    September 24, 2019 10:21 am

    got?

    get 😉

    Speaking of little kids, this is hilarious

  94. Walrus permalink
    September 24, 2019 11:05 am

    “Yep … just Google it … or have a look at this for 2019 ..”

    What a list of bullshit.

    I’d be embarrassed if I linked to crap like that.

  95. Tom R permalink
    September 24, 2019 11:28 am

    I’d be embarrassed if I linked to crap like that.

    As embarrassed as the (former) workers at Holden?

  96. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 24, 2019 12:03 pm

    “What we need is a nuclear fusion breakthrough!”

    More magical thinking. Fusion has been just around the corner for a long, long time. Given we’ve only got 10 years till doomsday the more sincere alarmists might want to consider something more practical:

    The Only Green New Deals That Have Ever Worked Were Done With Nuclear, Not Renewables”

    This article is different from rants by most alarmists precisely because the author is intellectually honest. Meanwhile back in the blathersphere alarmist loons are preying on children, lying to them and using them as human shields.

  97. TB Queensland permalink
    September 24, 2019 12:28 pm

    More magical thinking.

    You never did understand sarcasm …

    This article is different from rants by most alarmists precisely because the author writes what I want them to write.

    Fixed it for ya!

    Perhaps Venus research might tell us what could happen to Earth ? Bugger, scientist wouldn’t have a clue! Hey …?

    LINK! https://www.space.com/planet-venus-could-have-supported-life.html

  98. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 24, 2019 2:00 pm

    “You never did understand sarcasm …

    Possibly. It is harder to detect in the written word but on re-reading your comment I can see it if I squint a little.

    “…might tell us what could happen …”

    Sounds like real hard science then!

    I reckon the evil Venetians are responsible for the anthropogenic climate change that fucked their planet.

    On a more important point, have you tried any red wine from Aldi? I agree with reb’s comment above that Aldi is a bit disappointing on this score. None of the Aldi reds I’ve tried have been value for money at all.

  99. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 24, 2019 3:52 pm

    Red is something that I have some experience with! Although I’ve not tried anything from Aldi

    I cross reference wines that James Halliday scores over 95
    with offers from all the wine merchants and emails from wineries!

    This system seems to provide good value!

  100. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 24, 2019 4:33 pm

    ToM, I suspect that I you are not as price-constrained as I am in my quest for value for money. I usually stick to a couple of $15 reds and a case or two at $5 per bottle to get me through the week. If you have any suggestions I would be interested to know how much an improvement $20 might buy?

  101. Walrus permalink
    September 24, 2019 6:01 pm

    A case or 2 per week ?????????????????????

    LOL……………….Let’s party

  102. Tony permalink
    September 24, 2019 6:23 pm

    There were hysterical speeches important discussions at the UN today about mass extinctions of the Greater Thornbird unless we ban fossil collecting by 20 to 30 year olds. Or something like that.

  103. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 24, 2019 6:52 pm

    SB, Dan Murphy has (what they call) “membership offers”

    All that seems to mean is that you get a card and they send you emails. Have you tried it? There are some good discounts and you’ll find good prices on previous vintages that they’re clearing. That’s my suggestion for that price range!

  104. Tony permalink
    September 24, 2019 9:52 pm

  105. ivi permalink
    September 25, 2019 2:21 am

    (Erm; but you can has kandybar; and eat it, too.)

  106. Tom R permalink
    September 25, 2019 8:31 am

    I see murdochs minions (and other angry, empty old tools) are busy attacking a teenage girl for being smarter than they are, yet they are quite silent about David Attenborough.

    I even saw some numbnut this morning pining for the glory days of the Great War.

    Fuck these people are facile

  107. Tom R permalink
    September 25, 2019 8:36 am

    Just for the empty tools 😉

  108. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 25, 2019 9:10 am

    Finally! Trump’s well deserved impeachment has started. He’s a f***wit.

    As for Greta Thunberg, she seems to be an articulate, unqualified young person. There’s actually no shortage of them. I think I heard about a dozen of them in Byron Bay say the same thing last week.

  109. Tom R permalink
    September 25, 2019 9:19 am

    She may be unqualified, but all she is doing is repeating what the qualified people are saying?

    How many bagging her get to claim that? 😉

  110. Walrus permalink
    September 25, 2019 9:26 am

    “How dare you – you have stolen my dreams and my childhood’ …”

    Hilarious….!

    The last time I took advice from a 16 year old I found out it was shit advice.

    I was 16.

    BTW David Attenborough was taken apart on Sky After Dark (Boo !) last night as he has been previously.

    I expect the Australian to take him apart in the next few days. It can take them a while to do it because they actually go and research the FACTS.

  111. Tom R permalink
    September 25, 2019 9:32 am

    they actually go and research the FACTS.

  112. Walrus permalink
    September 25, 2019 9:36 am

    “……….is repeating what the qualified people are saying?”

    Oh you mean the 97% of scientists ?

    Pity she didn’t mention this “qualified people”………………..

    “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model, for the first time in human history”,
    “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the industrial revolution. That will not happen overnight and it will not happen at a single conference on climate change, be it COP 15, 21, 40 – you choose the number. It just does not occur like that. It is a process, because of the depth of the transformation.”

    -Christina Figueres Executive Secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change

  113. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 25, 2019 9:46 am

    “A case or 2 per week ?????????????????????”

    Not me. My wife likes a drink!

  114. Tom R permalink
    September 25, 2019 9:52 am

    Pity she didn’t mention this “qualified people”

    You need to be reminded ………….. again …………… of the scientific consensus?

    You truly live in a river in Egypt don’t you.

  115. Walrus permalink
    September 25, 2019 10:02 am

    “Not me. My wife likes a drink!”

    Of course she does.

    “You need to be reminded ………….. again …………… of the scientific consensus?”

    “scientific consensus” without which the taxpayer funds would immediately stop

  116. Tony permalink
    September 25, 2019 10:12 am

    She may be unqualified, but all she is doing is repeating what the qualified people are saying?

    That’s right! Those “qualified people” have failed to frighten the majority of voters so are trying a new approach: shame the unbeliever with child protesters.

  117. Tom R permalink
    September 25, 2019 10:31 am

    shame the unbeliever with child protesters.

    How do you shame the shameless?

    Sorry if a teenager speaking truth to power frightens you so much

    Or that “qualified people” speaking FACTS ‘frightens’ you also

  118. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 25, 2019 10:32 am

    Yes, it’s an interesting marketing/messaging strategy. The media likes creating celebrities, and often then tears down their creation.

    I tend to steer clear of one hit wonders and child celebrities.

    If I need to hear the articulate, passionate opinion of youth, all I have to do is express an opinion at home and wait for the reaction.

  119. Tom R permalink
    September 25, 2019 10:33 am

    lol

    A magazine that doesn’t even exit.

    What is it that old fossils are so afraid of they need to lie?

  120. Tom R permalink
    September 25, 2019 11:19 am

    If I need to hear the articulate, passionate opinion of youth,

    I think you mean “If I need to hear the articulate, passionate corrections of youth,” 😉

  121. Walrus permalink
    September 25, 2019 11:20 am

    Apparently this is important too

    “The recognition of sexual and reproductive rights in interventions on climate change is crucial to stop the perpetuation of existing gender norms and gender-based violence, among other things. The current brief seeks to elucidate the nuances of the interlinkages between climate change and sexual and reproductive rights through preliminary evidence available, as well as further advocacy on inclusion of sexual and reproductive rights in the development agenda.”

    https://arrow.org.my/publication/sex-rights-gender-age-climate-change/

  122. September 25, 2019 12:19 pm

    How good is …

    Hobnobbing on an overseas junket with the US President while he’s being impeached, Bonza!

  123. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 25, 2019 12:44 pm

    He’s lucky, Morrison now has a place in history

  124. Tom R permalink
    September 25, 2019 2:21 pm

    Just a reminder of Who Made WHo

  125. Tom R permalink
    September 25, 2019 2:42 pm

    Scott Morrison is increasingly seen as running a “denialist government” that is not serious about finding a global climate solution and uses “greenwash” to meet its emissions commitments, analysts and former diplomats say.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/25/australian-government-seen-globally-as-climate-denialist-un-summit-observers-say

    It also appears that the US has it’s own Engadine

  126. Tony permalink
    September 25, 2019 2:56 pm

    I thought I’d seen this before …

  127. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 25, 2019 2:59 pm

    If I need to hear the articulate, passionate opinion of youth, all I have to do is express an opinion at home and wait for the reaction.”

    Indeed.

  128. Tony permalink
    September 25, 2019 3:01 pm

    Hobnobbing on an overseas junket with the US President while he’s being impeached, Bonza!

    You little bloody ripper. Sco Mo doesn’t care. He’s about to be impeached brought down himself. Something about robots.

  129. Tony permalink
    September 25, 2019 3:08 pm

    Scott Morrison is increasingly seen as running a “denialist government” that is not serious about finding a global climate solution and uses “greenwash” to meet its emissions commitments, analysts and former diplomats say.

    They say that like it’s a bad thing.🤔

  130. Tom R permalink
    September 25, 2019 3:11 pm

    I thought I’d seen this before

    Wow,

    Nothing scares grown men (alleged) like a teenage girl showing more brains than they have.

    Guess she’s lucky she’s not blonde, Am I Right! lol

  131. Tom R permalink
    September 25, 2019 3:13 pm

    Straya

    Where vapid old white dudes alternate between defending child molesters, and attacking child protesters.

  132. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 25, 2019 3:58 pm

    Speaking of child molesters, Isn’t that guy in uniform (in the photo above) Creepy Uncle Joe Biden trying to sniff the girl’s hair?

  133. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 25, 2019 4:03 pm

    Creepy Uncle Joe:

    No way this kiddie-fiddler gets elected!

  134. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 25, 2019 4:06 pm

    Fucking pervert:

  135. Walrus permalink
    September 25, 2019 4:50 pm

    “People are suffering. People are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass extinction, and all you can talk about is money and fairy tales of eternal economic growth. How dare you!”

    I thought I’d heard her speech before……….

    Peter 3:10 – But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

  136. Walrus permalink
    September 25, 2019 4:54 pm

    From the Wall Street Journal today

    “In the iconography of traditional religion, children have often played a central role. The revelation of universal truth to an innocent child is an inspiring story that is very effective in both offering role models and propagating the faith. There’s a reason the European faithful used to venerate St Therese of Lisieux, St Bernadette of Lourdes, the children of Fatima in Portugal: the testimony of a guileless child is a powerful weapon against scepticism.

    Enter the Swedish 16-year-old Greta Thunberg, now come among us in New York for Climate Week. Her story is compelling: It recalls that of St Bernadette, exposed to the truth as a child and animated with a passionate mission to share it with the rest of humanity. As with child saints of the conventional type, Thunberg has overcome and indeed channelled personal challenges (she calls her autism a “superpower” rather than a disability) and has proved a remarkable inspiration to fellow teenagers throughout the world.

    Like the children of Fatima, she has a simple message that, if followed, promises to save the world from catastrophe. And now we have the near miraculous spectacle of her sailing across the Atlantic without emitting a molecule of carbon dioxide. Well, almost: It seems that perhaps there was some climate-altering emission involved after all. But it was a brilliant stunt. She could not have made a bigger impact if she’d walked across.”

  137. Tony permalink
    September 25, 2019 4:55 pm

    Consensus!

    Press briefing
    European Climate Declaration

    There is no climate emergency, say 500 experts

    AS THE LATEST U.N. climate summit begins in New York, a new, high-level global network of 500 prominentclimate scientists and professionals has submitted a declaration that there is no “climate emergency”.

    The group has sent a European Climate Declaration with a registered letter to António Guterres, Secretary-General of the United Nations.

    Professor Guus Berkhout of The Netherlands, who organized the Declaration, said: “So popular is the Declaration with scientists and researchers worldwide that signatories are flooding in not only from within Europe but also from other countries such as the United States and Canada, Australia and New Zealand.”

    The group’s letter warns the U.N. that “the general-circulation models of climate on which international policy is at present founded are unfit for their purpose”.
    The Declaration adds that the models, which have predicted far more warming than they should (see diagram), “are not remotely plausible as policy tools”, in that “they … exaggerate the effect of greenhouse gases such as CO2” and “ignore the fact that enriching the atmosphere with CO2 is beneficial”.

  138. Tony permalink
    September 25, 2019 5:27 pm

    EIA Projects Nearly 50% Increase In World Energy Usage by 2050, Led By Growth In Asia

    We’ll have banned fossil fuels by then. No worries though. Der klimatkinder will work it out.

  139. September 25, 2019 5:52 pm

    Rectum

    I can recommend this trusty red for the $20 mark at Dan Murphys.

    I’ve choked back a few of these in my time…

    https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_908634/ringbolt-cabernet-sauvignon

  140. Walrus permalink
    September 25, 2019 6:14 pm

    “Consensus !”

    But it’s not about Climate really. Just Wealth redistribution.

    But at least 500 scientists agreeing is better than the 97% (72 scientists) who agreed that the World was ending

  141. September 25, 2019 6:25 pm

    Geeze. A wee bit of joan-of-arking really does send the 2gb`ers over the edge. You would think by now that the old white 2gb dudes would have learned to stop entertaining the alarmists by now. After all, just because a couple of states have first week of spring bonfires means nothing. They were only competing with bolivia and brasil for bonfire tourists.

    ____

    Over at AlJazeera teamFans ..

    The collapse of the Russiagate collusion narrative.

    It read like a spy movie, and had people gripped. Russiagate, the theory that Donald Trump colluded with Vladimir Putin to hijack the 2016 US presidential elections, was a story that was too big to fail.

    But that’s what happened, and certain US news outlets now have some questions to answer because the Mueller report has found no smoking gun.

    Having sold Americans the seductive and conspiratorial notion that the man in the oval office was a compromised foreign agent, now comes a moment of reckoning for the US media.

    As for Trump himself, after two years of accusing the media of a witchHunt, calling them the enemy of the people, this story has handed him a 2020 election gift like no other.

  142. TB Queensland permalink
    September 25, 2019 6:42 pm

    “I want children growing up in Australia to feel positive about their future, and I think it is important we give them that confidence that they will not only have a wonderful country and pristine environment to live in, that they will also have an economy to live in as well.

    Scott Morrison …

    You don’t live in an economy … you live in a society …

    If the world dies – societies die – and an economy is fucking useless …

    People prefer to thrive in a society NOT survive in an economy!

  143. September 25, 2019 6:43 pm

    all I have to do is express an opinion at home and wait for the reaction

    A whipped critter like you. Fully female dominated. You wouldn`t dare. Not at home.

  144. TB Queensland permalink
    September 25, 2019 6:47 pm

    I thought I’d heard her speech before……….

    So not a catholic … but a fervent believer in the bible …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’ve been floating the idea of a private school to glean some funding off the government …

    The Australian Education Centre for Agnosticism …

  145. TB Queensland permalink
    September 25, 2019 6:53 pm

    Tony permalink
    September 25, 2019 2:56 pm

    I thought I’d seen this before …

    You really are frightened … GT, just may be right …

  146. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 25, 2019 7:22 pm

    Ringbolt is very good! Taylor’s Jarman shiraz sells around that price too, it’s also very good!

  147. September 25, 2019 7:49 pm

    Of course he`s fervent o1-sock. When you`re susceptible to swallowing one fairytail then you`re likely to swallow another fairytail, and another and another. Show me a teabag this does not apply to.

  148. September 25, 2019 8:53 pm

    “Taylor’s Jarman shiraz sells around that price too, it’s also very good!”

    Agreed.

    Although my liver is yet to forgive you for that particular recommendation…

  149. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 25, 2019 10:35 pm

    I think your liver complains too much. If you worry about ailments, you’d have to do all sorts of unpleasant things, like stop drinking.

  150. Tony permalink
    September 26, 2019 9:00 am

    You really are frightened …

    Lol. Really and truly? Are you sure about that?

  151. Tom R permalink
    September 26, 2019 9:06 am

    But at least 500 scientists agreeing is better than the 97%

    Scientists???

    Of the 400 signatories, only a handful have a background in climate science, with the majority being writers, engineers and geologists with no direct expertise in the field.

    https://www.desmog.co.uk/2019/09/06/climate-science-deniers-planning-coordinated-european-misinformation-campaign-leaked-documents-reveal

    One thing about those living on that river in Egypt, lying comes second nature to them 😉

  152. Tom R permalink
    September 26, 2019 9:11 am

    In so many ways (not least, the manner in which they got the top job)

  153. Tom R permalink
    September 26, 2019 9:13 am

    Lol. Really and truly? Are you sure about that?

    Perhaps review this thread 😉

    It’s like feeding the chooks around here sometimes lol

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12270771

  154. Tom R permalink
    September 26, 2019 9:21 am

    lol, The ‘most powerful man in the world” is getting trolled by a teenager ROFL

    Greta Thunberg turns tables on Trump and quotes his mockery in new Twitter bio

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/sep/24/greta-thunberg-trump-twitter-bio

  155. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 26, 2019 9:31 am

    Thanks for the tip. I’ll get a couple of bottles on the weekend. Sounds like a marriage made in heaven – Ringbolt and Splatterbottom.

  156. Tony permalink
    September 26, 2019 9:40 am

    In so many ways (not least, the manner in which they got the top job)

    Correct. They both had piss-weak opponents.

  157. Tom R permalink
    September 26, 2019 10:01 am

    Correct. They both had piss-weak opponents.

    They also had powerful, rich backers who were prepared to use any means possible to goad voters through dubious practices into voting for their own interests

  158. Tom R permalink
    September 26, 2019 10:05 am

    Greta’s “how dare you” speech reminds me of this response…

    The angry old mens response reminds me of this one 😉

  159. Tony permalink
    September 26, 2019 10:12 am

    to goad voters through dubious practices into voting for their own interests

    Huh? Most voters vote for their own interests, no goading required. You would have to be pretty dumb or masochistic to vote against them.

  160. Tony permalink
    September 26, 2019 10:20 am

    @ Tom R. These are the demands made by School Strike 4 Climate 2019:

    Our Demands
    No new coal, oil and gas projects, including the Adani mine.
    100% renewable energy generation & exports by 2030
    Fund a just transition & job creation for all fossil-fuel workers & communities.

    Do you agree with them?

  161. Walrus permalink
    September 26, 2019 10:25 am

    “…………. the majority being writers, engineers and geologists with no direct expertise in the field.”

    So says the Bolshie that has been defending the rantings of Tim Flannery a palaeontologist for years

  162. Walrus permalink
    September 26, 2019 10:30 am

    “The angry old mens response reminds me of this one”

    I don’t know where you get the angry old men thing from.

    I’m not angry but I am highly amused by the Lefts hypocrisy albeit not surprised

    I thought her speech was hilarious. The sight of a 16 year old castigating the meek snowflakes in the UN Assembly was side splitting stuff

    Take the advice of a 16 year old at your own risk

  163. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 26, 2019 10:36 am

  164. September 26, 2019 11:23 am

    “Greta’s “how dare you” speech reminds me of this response…”

    I was thinking more like this:

  165. Tony permalink
    September 26, 2019 11:40 am

    South African accents can be tricky.

  166. Tom R permalink
    September 26, 2019 11:55 am

    Do you agree with them?

    No, I don’t believe on a complete moratorium on mines

    I don’t know where you get the angry old men thing from.

    The reactions here, they are priceless. 🙂

    https://www.betootaadvocate.com/headlines/pm-urges-australian-kids-to-focus-their-needless-anxieties-towards-muslims-and-unisex-toilets/

  167. Tony permalink
    September 26, 2019 12:10 pm

    No, I don’t believe on a complete moratorium on mines

    I agree with you!

    But, hey, aren’t they just “repeating what the qualified people are saying”?

    Soo confusing.

  168. Tom R permalink
    September 26, 2019 1:13 pm

    Soo confusing.

    If only the world twere black and white, hey

  169. Tom R permalink
    September 26, 2019 1:18 pm

    Are these people stupid, or just so lost in their ideological war that they cannot see that they are in fact describing themselves, not their imagined enemies?

  170. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 26, 2019 1:46 pm

    Are these people stupid…

    How dare you! How VERY dare you!!

  171. Walrus permalink
    September 26, 2019 1:50 pm

    “We are in the beginning of a mass extinction” – The Idiot Child

    So TomR since you like taking the advice of a 16 year old on board please point out where exactly the last IPPC Report states “We are in the beginning of a mass extinction”

    Otherwise she is just making shit up

  172. Tom R permalink
    September 26, 2019 2:04 pm

    So TomR since you like taking the advice of a 16 year old

    Link?

    Although, I do take the advice of the scientific community, not a small collection of paid for scientists and their rag tag bunch of crazies pretending to be scientists

    Terrestrial and Wetland Ecosystems

    Risks of local species losses and, consequently, risks of extinction are much less in a 1.5°C versus a 2°C warmer world (high confidence). The number of species projected to lose over half of their climatically determined geographic range at 2°C global warming (18% of insects, 16% of plants, 8% of vertebrates) is projected to be reduced to 6% of insects, 8% of plants and 4% of vertebrates at 1.5°C warming (medium confidence). Risks associated with other biodiversity-related factors, such as forest fires, extreme weather events, and the spread of invasive species, pests and diseases, would also be lower at 1.5°C than at 2°C of warming (high confidence), supporting a greater persistence of ecosystem services.

    https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/

    We are not on track for even a minor extinction event

    https://www.wri.org/blog/2018/10/8-things-you-need-know-about-ipcc-15-c-report

  173. Tony permalink
    September 26, 2019 2:08 pm

    Otherwise she is just making shit up

    Everybody knows she is making shit up, but that doesn’t stop sycophants in the media comparing her speech to one of Churchill’s. Facts don’t matter to these people. It’s a catastrophe cult who worship at the altar of their prophet, St Greta of The Renewable Emission.

  174. Tom R permalink
    September 26, 2019 2:15 pm

    Facts don’t matter to these people.

    From the infamous “500 scientists” proponent ROFL

    Speaking of “making shit up” (thanks for the lead in Tony 😉 )

  175. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 26, 2019 3:43 pm

  176. Tom R permalink
    September 26, 2019 4:07 pm

    This is where the right has ended up

    Defending a pedophile, and pulling a young girls braids

  177. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 26, 2019 4:21 pm

    This is possibly the funniest Greta cartoon.

  178. TB Queensland permalink
    September 26, 2019 4:39 pm

    This is where the right has ended up …

    Sad really … but dangerous … and THEY blame people for exactly what they do …

    … what did JC say on the cross? “Forgive them, for they know not what they do” …*

    Now’s the time for that second coming … JC would probably end up in exactly the same predicament …

    * Long time since I studied the bible but I’m sure Wally can help out with chapter and verse … 🙂

  179. Walrus permalink
    September 26, 2019 4:42 pm

    “Facts don’t matter to these people.”

    There you go again. They are not facts they are predictions and beliefs based on climate models with hundreds or thousands of inputs trying to predict the climate in a world with billions of inputs.

    Your are a believer in a very new religion centred around the Idiot Child

    You are one of its leading apostles

  180. Walrus permalink
    September 26, 2019 4:43 pm

    LOL

    Luke 23:24

  181. Tony permalink
    September 26, 2019 6:44 pm

    Ezekiel 25:17

  182. Tony permalink
    September 26, 2019 6:57 pm

    “This is where the right has ended up”

    Isaiah 30:21

    “Whether you turn to the right or to the left, your ears will hear a voice behind you, saying, “This is the way; walk in it.”

  183. Tom R permalink
    September 26, 2019 7:40 pm

    Tested and replicated predictions Wally, which are unfolding before our eyes. Normal people call it science 😉

  184. Tony permalink
    September 26, 2019 7:52 pm

    “Tested and replicated predictions”

    Guffaw!

  185. Tony permalink
    September 26, 2019 7:55 pm

    That link seems bad. This one might work.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience#Falsifiability

  186. ivi permalink
    September 27, 2019 2:27 am

    (….yet they are quite silent about David Attenborough….

    Shhh.)

  187. Tom R permalink
    September 27, 2019 8:26 am

    Guffaw!

    100year old fish are dying, glaciers are melting, the GBR is experiencing massive coral bleaching year after year, and the planet is warming, as predicted.

    It’s a good laugh, aint it

    And you turn to “Mining engineers and business leaders” for your “Falsifiability”

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/sep/26/co2-is-plant-food-australian-group-signs-international-declaration-denying-climate-science?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    “Guffaw!” indeed 😉

    galatians 4:16

    😉

  188. Tom R permalink
    September 27, 2019 8:37 am

    Friends you keep hey

    Multiple US government officials privy to the Ukraine phone call were “deeply disturbed” that Donald Trump had used his position to “solicit interference” from a foreign power, a whistleblower’s report reveals.

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2019/09/27/donald-trump-ukraine-whisleblower/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Morning%20News%20-%2020190927

    Missing the days of Gillard playing mock footy with Obama yet?

  189. Tom R permalink
    September 27, 2019 8:43 am

    Burrendong Dam could run dry before June 2020 unless it receives significant rainfall, according to WaterNSW.

    https://www.centralwesterndaily.com.au/story/6124625/burrendong-dam-could-be-dry-by-2020-if-worst-drought-on-record-continues-waternsw-warns/

    So even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams and our river systems, and that’s a real worry for the people in the bush. If that trend continues then I think we’re going to have serious problems, particularly for irrigation.

    https://www.abc.net.au/local/archives/landline/content/2006/s1844398.htm

    Guffaw!

  190. Tony permalink
    September 27, 2019 9:21 am

  191. Walrus permalink
    September 27, 2019 9:32 am

    Let’s see how informed about Climate Change you are

    Take the Quiz

    https://www.thegwpf.com/the-big-climate-change-quiz/

  192. Tom R permalink
    September 27, 2019 10:11 am

    I think morrison needs to take a quiz wally 😉

    Checking the claims: the PM trumpets Australia’s policies as ‘responsible and achievable’. But what do experts say?

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/sep/26/how-does-scott-morrisons-climate-declaration-at-the-united-nations-stack-up?CMP=share_btn_tw

  193. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 27, 2019 11:02 am

    Tony there is a useful primer of nasty hand gestures here.

  194. Splatterbottom permalink
    September 27, 2019 11:03 am

    Now this is the ticket:

  195. Tom R permalink
    September 27, 2019 2:10 pm

  196. Tom R permalink
    September 27, 2019 2:22 pm

    An Angry Middle-Aged Man’s Guide to Greta Thunberg

    https://chaser.com.au/world/an-angry-middle-aged-mans-guide-to-greta-thunberg/

    (may also work for older aged too 😉 )

  197. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 27, 2019 3:05 pm

    Australia has the highest per capita greenhouse gas emissions of any country with >10M people.

    Really? Is that a fact?

    What’s the population of Saudi Arabia? Or the United States of America?

    Did you check their per capita emissions?

  198. Tony permalink
    September 27, 2019 3:20 pm

    Yeah, I’m not sure per-capita emissions are the correct metric to use, particularly when we are concerned with reducing bulk CO2 in the atmosphere. Total emissions per country per annum might be more relevant.

    Emissions from a number of growing economies have been increasing rapidly over the last few decades. Fast-forwarding to annual emissions in 2014, we can see that a number of low to middle income nations are now within the top global emitters. In fact, China is now the largest emitter, followed by (in order) the US, EU-28, India, Russia, Indonesia, Brazil, Japan, Canada and Mexico. Note that a number of nations that are already top emitters are likely to continue to increase emissions as they undergo development.

    https://ourworldindata.org/co2-and-other-greenhouse-gas-emissions

  199. Tom R permalink
    September 27, 2019 3:21 pm

    Did you check their per capita emissions?

    Did you look at the chart?

  200. Tom R permalink
    September 27, 2019 3:23 pm

    Total emissions per country per annum might be more relevant.

    My tax bill is small, we should ignore it 🙂

  201. Tom R permalink
    September 27, 2019 3:25 pm

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-27/higher-tax-bill-dirty-secret-heart-federal-budget-surplus/11554990

    the grubmint seem to think the opposite.

    The more you earn, the less you pay 😦

  202. Tony permalink
    September 27, 2019 3:51 pm

    My tax bill is small, we should ignore it 🙂

    What’s your point?

  203. Tom R permalink
    September 27, 2019 4:01 pm

    What’s your point?

    That your point was …………….. misdirection.

    We use more co2 per person than any other country. Our overall emissions might be lower than countries with 10X more people (which would be a hint towards my comment), but per person, we outclass everyone else.

    Why should I pay tax if it’s only a little amount in the big pie (even though, to me, it seems a lot)?

  204. Tony permalink
    September 27, 2019 4:17 pm

    That your point was …………….. misdirection.
    We use more co2 per person than any other country. We use more co2 per person than any other country.

    No, CO2 per capita is misdirection. The per capita figure includes mining and exports. Even if individuals reduced their personal emissions, they can do nothing about those larger ‘polluters’. Total emissions per country per annum is what governments are being asked to control.

  205. Tom R permalink
    September 27, 2019 4:23 pm

    Total emissions per country per annum is what governments are being asked to control.

    And we are not.

    And we are still producing more emissions per person than any other country

    they can do nothing about those larger ‘polluters’.

    Which is why it is important to highlight it.

  206. Tony permalink
    September 27, 2019 4:26 pm

    And we are not.

    What do you propose we do about it?

  207. Tom R permalink
    September 27, 2019 4:47 pm

    Vote in a Labor Government Tony

  208. Tony permalink
    September 27, 2019 4:50 pm

    Vote in a Labor Government Tony

    What do they propose we do? What is their policy on Adani, for example?

  209. Tony permalink
    September 27, 2019 5:00 pm

    This poor kid is clearly being exploited by his parents to say this stuff. No child arrives at these conclusions on their own…

    Or maybe he was educated. (Some of these twitterati should learn to do a quick google before cranking out their shit.)

    Kurt received a Bachelor of Commerce (Honours) from Monash University, majoring in Economics and Finance.

  210. Walrus permalink
    September 27, 2019 5:51 pm

    Perhaps we should attribute the CO2 to the nations that buy the emission causing products that are manufactured in China, South Korea India et al. After all they create the Demand resulting in the emissions.

    Why stop the stupidity of adding in estimated emissions from the burning of Australian coal in foreign countries ?

    This stupidity knows no bounds

  211. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 28, 2019 10:54 am

    I must admit to being a little perplexed about the calls to stop coal mining in Australia.

    Does anyone seriously think that Australia banning coal mining would reduce global emissions? Is there any scientific evidence? Or is this just emotive Green ranting?

  212. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 28, 2019 11:53 am

    I had a bottle of this last night – it’s quite good.

    https://www.auscellardoor.com.au/wynns-gables-cabernet.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIz-Sy1rPy5AIVSSUrCh2f8wLIEAQYBCABEgJwvvD_BwE

  213. Omega`Teabag permalink
    September 28, 2019 8:44 pm

    ( Funny to see one child has reduced everybody to; snorting skyfairyDust, guzzling mont-blanc, and quoting skyfairy at each other. Wait till they discover aquaMan and rabbitBurrow.)

  214. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 29, 2019 7:22 pm

    No wonder he’s leader of the free world!

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQLgyoqyqRs8lBPAL-kG4LpAT0FBIi4KYmTkrxVvDLOmHMUjplK

  215. TB Queensland permalink
    September 30, 2019 6:54 pm

    He’s not my fucking leader … the free world (are we free?) doesn’t even have a “leader” …

    Name me ONE!

  216. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 30, 2019 8:26 pm

    You should lighten up TB

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_World

    …and I have no idea about your situation, but I think I’m quite free

  217. Tom R permalink
    October 1, 2019 8:21 am

    but I think I’m quite free

    Yeah! Right

    And they are doing it for someone who is about to be impeached.

    But yomms fine with that.

  218. Tom R permalink
    October 1, 2019 8:38 am

    Wow, they are bragging about it ROFL

    “The Australian government has always been ready to assist and cooperate with efforts that help shed further light on the matters under investigation,” it said in a statement. “The PM confirmed this readiness once again in conversation with the president.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/01/donald-trump-urged-scott-morrison-help-discredit-mueller-inquiry

    Do they not understand how serious this is? They are actively helping one side of politics in another country against the other side of politics.

  219. TB Queensland permalink
    October 1, 2019 10:08 am

    You should lighten up TB

    Still fudging the questions I see … let’s simplify it for you …

    “The free world doesn’t even have a “leader” … name me ONE?”

    …and I have no idea about your situation, but I think I’m quite free

    You have no idea … what “freedoms” you may think you have can disappear in the blink of an eye or the number on a ballot paper …

  220. TB Queensland permalink
    October 1, 2019 10:17 am

    TR, this was the paragraph that struck me …

    In May Australia’s foreign minister, Marise Payne, told ABC Radio: “We don’t intend to engage in a public commentary that might entail any risk that we’re seen to prejudice the ongoing examination of these matters in the US.”

    But it is obstruction of justice … interfering with judicial process … and sweet fuck all to do with Australia!

    Morriscum and Co seem to think they are “assisting the USA” – they are assisting Donald Trump … GUILTY by association and IGNORANCE … if not not they are colluding with another right wing government leader to maintain power … interfering in a democratic process in another country GUILTY!

    Time for a DISMISSAL and new Federal Election …

    The mind boggles at what else must be beneath all this shit pile …

  221. Tom R permalink
    October 1, 2019 10:22 am

    Morriscum and Co seem to think they are “assisting the USA” – they are assisting Donald Trump

    Precisely TB. Can’t wait to see how the media are going to Blame Labor ™ for this one

  222. TB Queensland permalink
    October 1, 2019 11:52 am

    LOL!

    The ignorance is mind blowing! (Talk about pub test! Wonder what all those Undecided voters who went with the LNP lies are thinking now?)

    What’s going to be interesting is all the right whinger comments defending this balls up on news.com

    Second biggest arms importer

    Increasing ADF to 80,000 (another 20,000) and they are experiencing a lack of interest in recruitment …

    Makes you wonder just what someone(s) are planning??????

  223. Walrus permalink
    October 1, 2019 12:35 pm

    “(Talk about pub test! Wonder what all those Undecided voters who went with the LNP lies are thinking now?)”

    Simple answer for you…………………….They dont fucking care.

    If you think the minds of voters in western Sydney or northern Queensland are preoccupied with what Trump said to Morrison or vice versa that just goes to show you too are living in a bubble just like your ALP elitist mates in Canberra

    But the good thing about that is you will have a snowball’s hope in hell of winning the next election.

  224. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 1, 2019 1:53 pm

    Time for a DISMISSAL and new Federal Election …

    Hilarious! There’s TB the anti monarchist, seeking the intervention of the monarchy!

    Very grumpy these days

  225. October 1, 2019 3:14 pm

    “”RBA cuts rate to new record low of 0.75pc to head off rising unemployment””

    How good is having a “strong economy”…?!

    #thefundamentalsaresound

  226. TB Queensland permalink
    October 1, 2019 3:40 pm

    Very grumpy these days

    Keep trying, Tommy Boy …

    There’s TB the anti monarchist, seeking the intervention of the monarchy!

    Not because I want to … because its the stupid protocol of our government system … we seem to ride on the coat tails of a lot of other countries … when will Australia be free and independent?

    BTW …

    “The. Free. World. Doesn’t. Have. A. Leader … Name. Me. ONE?”

  227. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 1, 2019 3:50 pm

    Really, you want an unelected representative of the most privileged and unelected head of government in the world to dismiss s government that was democratically elected only a matter of months ago.

    Bizarre.

  228. TB Queensland permalink
    October 1, 2019 3:51 pm

    How good is having a “strong economy”…?!

    But that’s what our “best economic managers” think is “good” for a market economy … 0% would be wonderful!

    When the Super GFC hits – and it will soon – watch the LNP “Adults” go to work* its easy:

    – cut off all infrastrucure funding …

    – reduce welfare spending …

    – cut more taxes to their Elite, rich and pompous mates …

    – freeze wages below $100,000 (or have they managed that?) and;

    – give them selves a pay rise …

    – then announce that we are in deficit because of Labor losing the election …

    * Well not really “work”, actually they will probably self destruct and design new uniforms for the next coup …

    Really is time for a vote of no confidence and hopefully a Federal Election … Wally’s hanging out for one I see …

  229. TB Queensland permalink
    October 1, 2019 3:56 pm

    an unelected representative of the most privileged and unelected head of government in the world

    Ya got that right!

    Bizarre.

    The process certainly is … not one I wanted …

    How would you vote if a Referendum for a Republic was called now?
    A SIMPLE – YES OR NO answer is all it takes …

  230. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 1, 2019 4:04 pm

    What a pointless question. What model of republic are you proposing?

  231. Tom R permalink
    October 1, 2019 4:19 pm

    democratically elected

    pretty sure the judges are still out on that one 😉

  232. TB Queensland permalink
    October 1, 2019 4:32 pm

    What a pointless question. What model of republic are you proposing?

    One that doesn’t include an unelected representative of the most privileged and unelected head of government in the world to start with …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I see Wesfarmers has another 6,000 employees underpaid after Bunnings’ debacle … and now Subway has discovered it underpaid its staff too …

  233. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 1, 2019 5:15 pm

    So you’re proposing an elected head of state, like the USA?

  234. Walrus permalink
    October 1, 2019 5:28 pm

    “”…pretty sure the judges are still out on that one”

    It must be very lonely for you

  235. October 1, 2019 6:26 pm

    A SIMPLE ; YES OR NO answer is all it takes

    What a demented position. And not living-up to that self-impressive cv you regularly tell us about.

    Take a look at your own state. Last fedvote clowntown rammed adani down ya`states throat, and soon after, bananaland weak leader collapsed like a house of cards on adani and all the problems it will cause. None of which you can blame Liz`n firm for, nor going repug will solve. The oh-just-trust-us repug model peddled by weakLeader was dumped by voters that would not follow your repug-skyfairy.

  236. Tom R permalink
    October 2, 2019 8:20 am

    It must be very lonely for you

    Not as lonely as these two 😉

    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6402236/treasurer-mp-election-challenge-in-court/?cs=14231

  237. Tom R permalink
    October 2, 2019 8:23 am

    I’m no monarchist, but good on Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan.

    I hope they burn those bastards to the ground.

  238. TB Queensland permalink
    October 2, 2019 8:26 am

    So you’re proposing an elected head of state, like the USA?

    Anything that rids us of the expense and hypocrisy of The Firm …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    What a demented position … etc

    ???

    What fermented potions are you on now?

    Relationship to a Republic nil

  239. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 2, 2019 8:43 am

    Anything that rids us of the expense and hypocrisy of The Firm …

    But you still want to rely on The Firm to dismiss an elected government! Yes… that is bizarre.

  240. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 2, 2019 8:52 am

    I hope they burn those bastards to the ground.

    I agree ! The media has overstepped the mark on numerous occasions recently. And here the courts have awarded substantial damages against them. Good.

    There’s too much sensationalism and insufficient factual reporting.

    I think the ABC and Fairfax supported an appeal against the damages awarded to Rebel Wilson (or was it Geoffrey Rush?)

    They’ve all lost the plot.

  241. Tom R permalink
    October 2, 2019 9:03 am

    But you still want to rely on The Firm to dismiss an elected government! Yes… that is bizarre.

    It may not be the preferred system, but it’s the one we have to work in.

    You propose doing nothing, because …… icky? Yes… that is bizarre.

  242. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 2, 2019 9:57 am

    So do you think the local representative of the queen should dismiss the government?

    And who said I prefer doing nothing? I previously thought the US system was sound but I’m not so sure now. I’d be quite happy for the parliament to approve the head of state.

    Very little change required.

  243. Tom R permalink
    October 2, 2019 11:00 am

    I’d be quite happy for the parliament to approve the head of state.

    That’s all very well, but as it currently stands, we have ” an unelected representative of the most privileged and unelected head of government in the world ” who is the only one we have who is able to dismiss s government.

    With that as the state of play, and with the need to dismiss a government (theoretically) What would you do?

  244. Tom R permalink
    October 2, 2019 11:02 am

    trumps solution

  245. Tom R permalink
    October 2, 2019 4:05 pm

    Gladys Liu and Josh Frydenberg have admitted that controversial Chinese-language signs instructed voters that the “correct” or “right” way to vote was to put a 1 next to the Liberal party candidate on ballot papers in the Victorian seats of Chisholm and Kooyong.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/02/gladys-liu-and-josh-frydenberg-admit-chinese-election-signs-instructed-right-way-to-vote

  246. TB Queensland permalink
    October 2, 2019 4:49 pm

    But you still want to rely on The Firm to dismiss an elected government! Yes… that is bizarre.</I.

    Are you really that thick? Because that's the fucking stupid system we are stuck with … until YOU change it!

    So do you think the local representative of the queen should dismiss the government?

    You are fucking thick!

    I’d be quite happy for the parliament to approve the head of state.

    Very little change required.

    Agree, 2/3rds …

    The question was Yes or No … how fucking hard!

    Can we re-write the Constitution at the same time? NO – sorry … one question at a time …

  247. TB Queensland permalink
    October 2, 2019 4:56 pm

    Gladys Liu and Josh Frydenberg have admitted …

    Yeah, now they were “cleared” by the AEC!!!!!

    I’m tempted to say that Labor should start playing “crooked” to level the playing field … but like most of us that ain’t cricket … even tho’ ’tis not a game I follow … although it seems to be full of cheats too … is cricket supported by the LNP?

  248. October 2, 2019 5:37 pm

    A self-impressive cv clearly does not give one the ability to set-aside their own skyfairy level fervor and identify `pressing` topics much closer to home. There is no `royalist` jackboot on your or kiddies throat/s, just as there is no jackboots on religion/s throats; tho clowntown is pissing away much parliament time pretending there is. Just as they pissed away 15+years of parliament time beating-up on p0oofs; murdering iraq citizens and gulaging boaties. The repug-skyfairy is a (non)solution to all pressing topics just as the denial-skyfairy and pedo-skyfairy is. Be careful you don`t swoon for more excuses for clowntown to piss-away the time/money needed to address pressing topics in a (soylent)era that is getting more pressing for the kiddies.

  249. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 2, 2019 7:35 pm

    I see TB, swearing and abuse! You seem to be particularly grumpy.
    But you’re wanting the local representative of “The Firm” to dismiss an Australian government. Are you able to explain your rationale?
    Is there proven illegality? Or is it just because you find them objectionable?
    By the way your question about a republic (yes or no) was stupid. But you’re probably aware of that. But if you need an explanation of why it was stupid, just ask. I’m entirely happy to provide you with the details.

  250. ivi permalink
    October 3, 2019 1:26 am

    (I’m entirely happy to provide you with the details.

    Would that happyness be in the form of:

    a) an appropriately-overlooked Green Paper;

    b) a mysteriously-abandoned/(p)retired White Paper;

    c) a super-subtly stovepiped ‘review’ by a hand-picked panel of (in)vested) (h)experts with a priori ‘good ideas’/conflict(s) of (dis)interest(s);

    d) an heavily-resisted Royal Commission into the manifest(ed) (mal)function(s) of the ‘(in)Human(e) Services’ artifice;

    e) a(n) (self-)indulgent non-binding plebiscite on a legislative matter;

    f) a long-overdue referendum on a constitutional matter, for which a recognisable draft question is yet to be published, despite nearly a decade of promises to produce one, and despite a rough-draft question originally having been produced, subject to perfectly-(un)natural concerns(-trolling, about tent-ative embassies and/or third-chambers), but a finalised question most-assuredly will emerge in good time for achieving (bi)partisan support, for being lent hefty political-capital momentum, and for co-incidental (cross-)mark(et)ing of a related successful-referendum’s quinquagenary; or

    g) something else?)

  251. Tom R permalink
    October 3, 2019 6:05 am

    But you’re wanting the local representative of “The Firm” to dismiss an Australian government.

    No wonder he gets grumpy yomm, you keep representing him.

    It’s not ‘wanting’ them to, it requiring them too. He has pointed out, many times, he prefers another method. In fact, the remainder of your argument is about that ffs.

    And you haven’t answered my question. What would YOU do in this hypothetical situation?

    Meanwhile, scumo is hiding in plane sight. And our piss weak media will say ‘fair enough’. Remember when Gillard spent hours answering every question the throng could make up, and it still wasn’t enough. This dipshit can’t answer one.

  252. Tom R permalink
    October 3, 2019 6:08 am

  253. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 3, 2019 8:13 am

    TB & Tom R seek the dismissal of an elected government by the local representative of an unelected, privileged hereditary monarchy because… it’s the vibe.

  254. Tom R permalink
    October 3, 2019 8:18 am

    yomm lies and refuses to answer questions

    It’s the Truth

    yomms song 😉

  255. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 3, 2019 8:26 am

    Your question is- what would I do?

    If a government maintains the confidence of the HoR, there’s no need to do anything.

    if there is an act of illegality, the High Court can deal with that.

    Why do you think the government should be dismissed?

  256. Tom R permalink
    October 3, 2019 8:34 am

    Why do you think the government should be dismissed?

    What part of “hypothetical” are you struggling with yomm?

  257. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 3, 2019 8:46 am

    I thought you were agreeing with TB, who seeks the dismissal of the government.

    Do you think the governor general should have the power to dismiss a government?

  258. TB Queensland permalink
    October 3, 2019 8:52 am

    GROW COTTON!

    As well as being a biodegradable fibre, hemp’s production requires less than a third of the water needed for cotton and yields 220% more fibre. The plant grows without the need for harmful herbicides and pesticides and also replenishes soil quality. Hemp has low carbon emissions and is capable of capturing carbon emissions from the atmosphere, meaning it is considerably better for the environment than cotton.

    https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2019/oct/02/from-eco-benefits-to-legal-status-everything-you-need-to-know-about-wearing-hemp

  259. Tom R permalink
    October 3, 2019 8:52 am

    Do you think the governor general should have the power to dismiss a government?

    No, but currently, he does. It’s method we have.

    So, given that state of play, and given the hypothetical that you required the government gone ….. What would YOU do (assuming what they did wasn’t illegal, just highly unethical/ immoral)?

  260. TB Queensland permalink
    October 3, 2019 8:57 am

    You seem to be particularly grumpy

    Its actually frustration at your deliberately obtuse comments … if its not deliberate then you have a serious comprehension issue …

    This dipshit can’t answer one.

    Seems to be catching!

  261. TB Queensland permalink
    October 3, 2019 9:09 am

    … it’s the vibe.

    Its the law! Not my law. Not my interpretation of the law …

    … the law based upon the Constitution, that stupidly includes a 90 year old woman, living half way around the world, as the current Head of State of Australia. With the prospect of her 70+yo half wit son becoming HoS very soon … neither of whom give a flying fuck about what happens in Australia – and nor should they … they already own 2/3 of the UK … one of the (if not the) richest, privileged families in the World – just because they were born – the Divine Right of Kings only exists in the mind of the Mad Abbott and similar tiny brained monarchists – oddly enough coupled with a heavily right leaning conservative mindset …

    jesus fucking wept!

  262. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 3, 2019 9:15 am

    …just highly unethical/ immoral)?

    That sounds pretty routine for a political party, and it was exactly the argument used to support the dismissal of the Whitlam Government.

    So I don’t support the dismissal of a government by the governor general.

    If a government maintains the confidence of the HoR, and has not been found to have acted illegality, it can face the consequences of its behaviour at the next election.

  263. Tom R permalink
    October 3, 2019 9:15 am

    Seems to be catching! Up? 😉

  264. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 3, 2019 9:20 am

    It’s the law

    You’re the one seeking the dismissal of the government. It’s a law that isn’t required to be used.

    But what exactly is your rationale for seeking the dismissal of the government by the local unelected representative of an unelected, extremely privileged monarchy?

  265. Tom R permalink
    October 3, 2019 9:22 am

    But what exactly is your rationale

    What exactly is your rationale for not answering questions?

    Is yomm scumo?

  266. Tony permalink
    October 3, 2019 10:19 am

    What exactly is your rationale for not answering questions?

    Lol. What’s your rationale for not answering mine?

    I don’t care, really, but unless you’re consistent someone could accuse you of hypocrisy. Just saying.

  267. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 3, 2019 10:56 am

    I think Tom R and TB want the Queen’s representative to be able to dismiss the government without any illegality, their reason appears to be – the government doesn’t do the things they prefer.

  268. Tom R permalink
    October 3, 2019 11:42 am

    Lol. What’s your rationale for not answering mine?

    Link?

    I think Tom R and TB want the Queen’s representative to be able to dismiss the government without any illegality,

    Again, you’re just making shit up yomm.

    We are just saying, this is the current way things work. You seem unable to grasp that concept.

  269. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 3, 2019 11:48 am

    CertainlyTB said it was time for a dismissal. Do you disagree with him?

    Anyway, I’m going for a surf, because that’s what my retirement involves.

  270. Tony permalink
    October 3, 2019 12:18 pm

    Link?

    Here ya go. (I suppose your rationale is gonna be you didn’t see it? Which is odd, since you’re the one that’s usually all over everything. )

    https://theguttertrash.com/2019/09/17/robodebt-class-action-lawsuit-could-bring-down-the-coalition-government/#comment-162691

  271. Tom R permalink
    October 3, 2019 1:24 pm

    What do they propose we do? What is their policy on Adani, for example?

    The answer seemed redundant, as, not only is it on their website (or was during the election) they repeated it ad nauseum

    They wouldn’t stand in front of it, if it stacked up environmentally and fiscally, without Government intervention.

    It failed on both of those measures.

    yomm still refuses to answer, even though it’s not one that’s been asked and answered multiple times, to the point of redundancy

  272. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 3, 2019 1:27 pm

    I refuse to answer what?

  273. Tom R permalink
    October 3, 2019 1:33 pm

    I refuse to answer what?

    To the question of, if we had to remove a Government, who proved to be so Trumpish that they needed removing, would you use the mechanism we have now, which involves using the Governor General?

  274. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 3, 2019 1:38 pm

    I’ve already answered that or do you lack comprehension?

    I said –
    So I don’t support the dismissal of a government by the governor general.

    If a government maintains the confidence of the HoR, and has not been found to have acted illegality, it can face the consequences of its behaviour at the next election.

  275. Tom R permalink
    October 3, 2019 1:43 pm

    But if it doesn’t maintain the confidence of the HoR?

  276. Tony permalink
    October 3, 2019 1:43 pm

    not only is it on their website (or was during the election) they repeated it ad nauseum

    It’s not on their website and never was. Labor’s policy on Adani depended on whether Shorten was speaking to miners in Queensland or greenies in the Socialist Republic of Victoria.

    Your solution to climate change is vote Labor. That would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic.🤣😳

  277. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 3, 2019 1:48 pm

    If a government doesn’t maintain the confidence of the HoR thete are established precedents for formation of a new government or an election.

    There is no role for the representative of the monarchy to dismiss a government on the basis of poor policy, perceptions of taste or any other form of judgement

  278. Tom R permalink
    October 3, 2019 2:39 pm

    thete are established precedents for formation of a new government or an election.

    And that includes ……………………. the representative of the monarchy 😉

  279. Tony permalink
    October 3, 2019 4:25 pm

    This:

  280. October 3, 2019 6:02 pm

    That’s very good TosY.. 🙂

  281. October 3, 2019 6:04 pm

    “ARE YOU TALKIN’ TA ME…??!!!”

    Who did it better, Robert De Niro or Trump…?

    https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/donald-trumps-heated-exchange-with-journalist-are-you-talking-to-me-2111073

  282. October 3, 2019 6:37 pm

    In bananaland the repug-skyfairy whispers ‘the royalist jackboots are coming’ in their ears. lt provides a nice distraction from whitehouse puppets rule us.

  283. October 3, 2019 7:26 pm

    (happyness be in the form of .. fundamentals are sound and borders are secure.)

  284. Tony permalink
    October 3, 2019 7:53 pm

    Yes Bagz, teh market is down. But the real question is: when is The Walrus getting back in? 😎💰

  285. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 4, 2019 11:02 am

    Move over Greta:

  286. Tom R permalink
    October 4, 2019 12:19 pm

    Wow, town meetings have trolls now too lol

  287. Tom R permalink
    October 4, 2019 12:19 pm

  288. Walrus permalink
    October 4, 2019 2:01 pm

    Speaks for itself really………….

  289. Walrus permalink
    October 4, 2019 2:05 pm

    Walrus back into ASX yesterday morning.

    I found Altium, Appen and Costa Food Group to be compelling Buys as have a few brokerages I note.

    Just researching Syrah (not the Shiraz) at the moment/over the weekend. It might be worth a speculate.

  290. Walrus permalink
    October 4, 2019 2:07 pm

    Oops just noticed Splatter beat me to the Eat the Babies thing

  291. Walrus permalink
    October 4, 2019 2:09 pm

    Ooops just noticed Splatter beat me to Eat the Babies

  292. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 4, 2019 4:08 pm

    I’m not sure claims of indigenous cultural practice justifies a cop in a 4 wheel drive killing a wombat with rocks.

    https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/animals/video-of-sa-police-officer-stoning-wombat-sparks-cultural-debate/news-story/e7d3aac9c4dd48b0f8a19b3f987f7569

  293. TB Queensland permalink
    October 4, 2019 4:59 pm

    Watch … Much more fun than nutcases eating babies …

    Health care with employment? What’s wrong with that … works in the USofA! NOT!

  294. Walrus permalink
    October 4, 2019 5:23 pm

    “I’m not sure claims of indigenous cultural practice justifies a cop in a 4 wheel drive killing a wombat with rocks.”

    It doesn’t. It’s still animal cruelty. And from what I have read it cannot be justified based on diet since he didn’t eat it. It was all just for fun

    The arsehole

  295. October 4, 2019 7:21 pm

    It did not look like a hunt. lt looked like a dcikhead engaged in cruelty. Did Legacy FakeNews outlets EDIT for this impression?? .. Was the wombat eaten??

  296. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 5, 2019 6:41 pm

    I certainly won’t be missing Jon Faine. He is an opinioniated loudmouth that doesn’t belong on a publicly funded radio station.

    Rafael Epstein (on the other hand) is balanced and well informed. He probes but doesn’t talk over people. The ABC should have more like him.

    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-05/jon-faines-career-of-questions-on-abc-melbourne/11542080

  297. October 6, 2019 11:24 am

    “”He is an opinioniated loudmouth””

    Virginia Trioli should slip into the role quite comfortably then.

  298. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 6, 2019 6:26 pm

    I don’t think Virginia Tripoli can match Faine for self importance, arrogance and talking over guests.

    She doesn’t even seem to be particularly obnoxious. I can’t see her lasting at our ABC

  299. TB Queensland permalink
    October 6, 2019 7:42 pm

    Virginia Trioli should slip into the role quite comfortably then.

    I like Virgin 🙂 Trioli … are you being awful again?

    I actually miss her on the ABC Morning thingy … fancy sticking her on fkn radio!

    How come ToM knows all these morning radio jocks?

  300. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 7, 2019 11:31 am

    Retirement means having the time to listen to people like Faine wasting my taxes

  301. October 7, 2019 11:33 am

    Hey dumb arse ; trioli was on radio before she did breakfast claptrap. Sounds like rebs not a fan. Should checkout latelineland interview with barney many years ago. While barney was blathering r`tarded nonsense via out of studio hookup, camera cut back to in-studio trioli pulling faces and doing `crazy` hand signal to studio staff. Went to air. Fcuking hilarious. She can do good interviews and squeeze the pollys, tho she does blather well too. My guess would be ; she tired of doing breakfast claptrap ; which is mostly fluff ; and thinks radio might be less tedious.

  302. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2019 9:42 am

    The lack of outrage here lately is most concerning.

    Surely Sco Mo has said something. Or Trump. Or Boris.

    In fact … t’s a disgrace!

  303. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 8, 2019 10:04 am

    Outrage here! How is it in the public interest to publish full details of Nicola Gobbo’s medical diagnosis and mental health?
    Only the Royal Commissioner has to be satisfied about her ability to give evidence.
    Publishing this material is outrageous

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/lawyer-x-nicola-gobbo-says-she-doesn-t-feel-particularly-guilty-20191007-p52ybf.html

  304. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2019 10:05 am

    Surely Sco Mo has said something.

    It’s more what hasn’t been said.

    You’d think that the pm being best mates with a QAnon conspiracy theorist would be making headlines, but it’s gone missing.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/05/qanon-conspiracy-theorist-friends-australian-prime-minister-scott-morrison

    It also puts his wife’s recent racist symbol with Meghan Markel (oops, an innocent OK symbol, shown upside down and inverted) in a new light

    In fact … t’s a disgrace! 😉

  305. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2019 10:06 am

  306. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2019 10:28 am

    Democracy (yaays)

    Meanwhiles, freedom boy ignores his own cuntry. I wonder if taxpayers are funding his selfies?

  307. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2019 4:11 pm

    Tom the Truther:

    “It also puts his wife’s recent racist symbol with Meghan Markel (oops, an innocent OK symbol, shown upside down and inverted) in a new light

    In fact … t’s a disgrace!”

  308. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2019 4:21 pm

    “Tom the Truther:”

    Of course, you have a better explanation why a woman married to a racist, who is best mates with QAnon, would be “accidentally” making these signs with that particular person.

  309. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2019 5:22 pm

    I’m not sure who QAnon is, but if that story comes via TomR’s paper of record – Teh Grauniad – it must be true. 🙄

    It’s outrageous!

  310. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2019 5:30 pm

    As for the 👌 sign, surely you can’t be serious.

  311. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2019 5:33 pm

    Okay?

  312. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2019 7:58 pm

    Police have arrested 59 people following climate protests in Melbourne’s CBD today.

    Hah! They only got 30 in Sydney yesterday and four today.

    Winning!

  313. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 8, 2019 9:36 pm

    More proof that Trump is a C***

    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-08/turkey-want-to-attack-syrias-kurds-donald-trump/11581504

  314. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2019 5:42 am

    As for the 👌 sign, surely you can’t be serious.

    You did note your sign is facing the wrong way, and is upside down.

    How do you feel about our pms best mate being QAnon?

  315. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2019 5:52 am

    More proof that Trump is a C***

    ANd we are following hot on his heels down that ribbit hole.

    Both guys are apparently heavily influenced by QAnon, which is precisely why this should be a major story.

    Gallipoli 2.0?

    https://www.themonthly.com.au/today/elle-hardy/2019/08/2019/1570503949/trump-s-great-and-unmatched-wisdom

  316. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2019 6:05 am

    Free speech warriors, go for it.

  317. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 7:12 am

    OMFG! TomR looks very fetching in his tinfoil hat.

    https://www.adl.org/blog/how-the-ok-symbol-became-a-popular-trolling-gesture

  318. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 7:18 am

    Or maybe TomR only believes what he reads in the bible.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/03/ok-sign-gesture-emoji-rightwing-alt-right

  319. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2019 8:16 am

    hmm, so you think its ok for the pms wife to ‘troll’ ‘lefties’ with a ‘fake’ white power symbol whilst with the Duchess of Sussex

    Is that the take

    Not sure if that’s any different to be honest.

    One thing for sure, it’s NOT the fucking OK symbol

    But pretty sure her qanon best mates were happy with them.

  320. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2019 8:20 am

    They did it all last election here, why should America be any different

    Put another way, Facebook is now okay with running political ads with known lies.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1181348866744098816.html

  321. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 8:37 am

    Can someone please explain why the US should stand between Turkey, a NATO ally, and the Kurds, who are not, in a conflict which has been ongoing for decades?

    I’ll wait.

  322. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 8:43 am

    One thing for sure, it’s NOT the fucking OK symbol

    All right. Can you post the link (again?). I’d like to look into it.

  323. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2019 9:24 am

  324. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2019 9:25 am

    Good conspiracies need a close up 😉

  325. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 9:44 am

    #handgate (😂🤣) update:

    Never mind. The robodebt scandal will be bringing down the government ant minute now. Soon. Hold your breath …

  326. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 9, 2019 10:02 am

  327. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2019 10:06 am

    Jenny has a nervous condition

    I’d be nervous too with a qanon mate watching my hand signals 😉

    You know how convincing it is that you found a twit (who you constantly denigrate), to dismiss this.

    I wonder if her opinion has changed since the qanon revelations

  328. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 10:17 am

    You know how convincing it is that you found a twit (who you constantly denigrate), to dismiss this.

    Yeah, because she was one of the main conspiracy theorists pushing this.

    Never mind though. You’re sounding more and more unhinged – which I’m finding most amusing. So keep it up.

  329. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2019 10:20 am

    Yeah, because she was one of the main conspiracy theorists pushing this.

    she was one of a multitude. The fact one doesn’t doesn’t mean shit.

    The fact that not one other msm company (all in the pocket of the libs) won’t talk about qanon mates is more telling than anything

    It’s an ‘on water’ matter.

    Meanwhile, we are being dragged into another us war we don’t want or need

  330. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 10:25 am

    Meanwhile, we are being dragged into another us war we don’t want or need

    Who are you and what have you done with TomR?

  331. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 10:28 am

    And the mainstream won’t touch your QAnon stuff because it’s nuts. But you can’t see it.

  332. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2019 10:35 am

    And the mainstream won’t touch your QAnon stuff because it’s nuts

    Are you saying it’s false?

    Are you saying you don’t mind that our pm is best mates with someone who is part of an terrorist organisation?

  333. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 9, 2019 11:35 am

    “Who are you and what have you done with TomR?”

    Tom the Truther knows what is really going on, which conspiracies are really real and precisely when the world will end!

    And when Tom the Truther finally gets around to taking his meds Tom R will be back. Of course he will still be wrong just not batshit-crazy tinfoil-cap-wearing looney-tunes shit-eating grin wrong.

  334. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 9, 2019 11:45 am

    I think it’s disgraceful that Mrs Morrison has used Our Royal Family to send secret messages to her co-conspirators in the white supremacist movement

  335. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2019 11:55 am

    splatter is a qanon sympathiser (and supports those who protects pedophiles)

  336. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2019 12:13 pm

    Going on some posters here, it’s difficult to disagree

  337. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 12:34 pm

    Tom the Truther

    I think it’s actually Tom the Q-ther, secretly known on the Q-Anon boards as Kewfer.

  338. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 9, 2019 12:46 pm

    About 35 cyclists took off from Carlton Gardens about 7.30am and blocked intersections on Hoddle Street, in Collingwood.

    35 involved in a mass protest to prevent our extinction! Maybe it’s just that 7.30am is a little early for protesters

  339. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 1:07 pm

    35 involved in a mass protest to prevent our extinction!

    Oh no! If our extinction isn’t enough motivation for XR, what hope have we got?

    Greta help us all.

  340. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 1:11 pm

    (They get more bike riders at the local cafe on a Sunday morning – many before 7:30. And they’re not saving the world.)

  341. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2019 1:13 pm

    Everyone here agrees that it is fine for our pm to be best mates with a terrorist.

    Conservatives 2019 style 😉

  342. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2019 1:16 pm

    lol yomm the unattributed

    “The bike brigade blocked the intersection of Hoddle and Gipps streets for about three minutes, before taking off. ”

    you could start yerself a family in that time 😉

  343. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 1:19 pm

    Conservatives 2019 style 😉

    You’re not getting much support from your lefty mates either. I wonder why.🤔

  344. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 1:29 pm

    TomR’s solution to the ‘climate emergency’: vote Labor.

    Labor’s response: Federal Labor frontbencher Joel Fitzgibbon wants his party to adopt the Government’s climate change targets, arguing the Opposition “confused and scared” voters with its policies at the May election.

    😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🙂🤣😂🤣

  345. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2019 2:39 pm

    Fitzgibbon has wanted Labor to be deniers for years.

    He hasn’t made much progress luckily 😉

  346. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 4:10 pm

    Fitzgibbon has wanted Labor to be deniers for years.

    Let’s see what the election review says about that, shall we.

  347. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 4:14 pm

    From my link above:

    ‘All of Labor’s election policies are currently under review, including its promise to reduce emissions by 45 per cent on 2005 levels by 2030.’

  348. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2019 4:16 pm

    Let’s see what the election review says about that, shall we.

    Considering their response so far, not good.

    But hopefully they grow their spine back

  349. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 4:23 pm

    None of these people – except Greta (pbuh) and her tiny followers – believe there’s a climate crisis. That’s why they don’t act like there’s a climate crisis.

  350. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 4:46 pm

    By the way, Labor lost the unloseable Climate Change Election™️.

    From the same link above:

    ‘In a speech to be delivered tonight, Labor’s agriculture and resources spokesman will say Australians are “inherently conservative” and the Opposition should consider a less ambitious climate plan.’

    Australians. Are. Inherently. Conservative.

  351. Walrus permalink
    October 9, 2019 4:46 pm

    “But hopefully they grow their spine back”

    I hope so too. Dont want to see too much common sense appearing in the ALP

    It seems Joel Fitzgibbon is the only one to have learnt the lesson from 18 May.

    I hope they expel him

  352. Walrus permalink
    October 9, 2019 4:56 pm

    “I actually miss her on the ABC Morning thingy … fancy sticking her on fkn radio!”

    Yeah I’ll miss her too. I basically only watch ABC and Channel 7 in the morning these days. Channel 9 has lurched to the Left big time since the Fairfax infiltration began.

    This morning they had one of there own radio station presenters extolling the virtues of Extinction Rebellion and how disgusted he was at the actions of the Queensland Government in toughening up the laws around protesters.

  353. Walrus permalink
    October 9, 2019 4:57 pm

    “their”

  354. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2019 5:21 pm

    I basically only watch ABC and Channel 7 in the morning these days. Channel 9 has lurched to the Left big time since the Fairfax infiltration began.

    Well don’t bother watching Sky News in the morning. Laura Jays and Pete Stefonovic are just as bad. They had on some British-American law professor telling us all how bad Trump and Boris are. Those two nodded and smiled through the whole thing. I wondered what this guy’s credentials were so looked him up. What Laura and Pete failed to disclose was he’s is a member of the British Labour Party and an advisor to Jeremy Corbyn.

  355. Walrus permalink
    October 9, 2019 6:02 pm

    “What Laura and Pete failed to disclose was he’s is a member of the British Labour Party and an advisor to Jeremy Corbyn”

    Current day journalism.

    But yeah its pretty bad when I need to go to the ABC for a less Leftist view

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