Kerri-Anne Says Climate Protesters Should Be Used As ‘Speed Bumps’
Australiana “icon” and banal self-entitled daytime chat show host Kerri-Anne Kennerley (aka KAK) has slammed Extinction Rebellion activists for blocking cities nationwide, saying ‘moron’ protesters should be jailed and ‘forget to feed them’.
On Wednesday, the discussion between the so-called “Studio 10 panel” consisting of an amalgam of rich white people, turned their bitter entitled pursed lips to the Extinction Rebellion protests currently taking place across the nation.
Around 100 people were arrested this week during protests staged in Australian main capital centres.
In Queensland, protesters could face jail time under the new laws floated by the State Labor government.
When asked by Channel 10 host Sarah Harris if the measures were “too extreme”, Kennerley said she felt this wouldn’t be enough.
“Personally, I would leave them all super glued to wherever they do it, like forever … the guy hanging from the Storey Bridge. Why send emergency services to look after, or get a moron down? Leave him there until he gets himself out,” she said.
“No emergency services should help them, nobody should do anything, leave them there, and you just put little witches hats around them, or use them as a speed bump.”
Harris put her head in her hands, saying “you’re going to get us into trouble!”
“Is that wrong?” Kennerley said, down the barrel of the camera.
At the end of the show, the hosts addressed the comments, with Harris saying “you were obviously not inciting violence, it was a joke.”
“Heavens no,” Kennerley replied.
Harris continued to say “you were speaking in hyperbole.”
“I was speaking like you said,” Kennerley said.
Network 10 said in a statement that Kennerley’s words were “said in jest”.
“Kerri-Anne confirmed that she was indeed speaking in hyperbole and her words were clearly a joke. There was no intent to cause offence.
Over the past few days, Studio 10 has extensively addressed a range of opinions on this subject,” a spokesperson said.
When host Joe Hildebrand suggested that activists should “come up with a protest that lasts longer than this show,” Kennerley jumped in again.
“Why don’t all you extremists go to China or Saudi Arabia and do it?”
“That’s my idea,” she said.
“If we stop doing anything to harm the environment in Australia, makes no difference. Do it where it is going to count, which is number one China, number two India, number three America. Go and do it over there.”
She’s really just a bit of a fucking mole isn’t she.
theguttertrash.com 
Around 100 people were arrested this week
They arrested every protester?
It is outrageous that anyone would even jokingly suggest that protesters should be used as a speed bump!
I have a low slung convertible, and any speed bumps really scrape the undercarriage.
Leaving people glued to things makes sense to me though. It’s a free country and people should be allowed to glue themselves to things if they wish, and the heavy handed police ungluing should stop now!
And Mrs Thunberg seems nice.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/careers/greta-thunbergs-mother-malena-ernman-revealed-as-surprise-eurovision-star/news-story/699336f349b87f1b16b2468ace7f59ae
It’s a disgrace!
I’m not usually one to complain but I think KAK’s gone too far this time.
Joe Hildebrand is a total cockhead.
He’s like the nerdy kid at school who simply assumed he was “too intelligent” cos the other kids didn’t like him and he was ugly, but nah, he was just a fuck head. and then along comes commercial TV and gives the cunt some fuckn’ airtime.
Tosser.
Rugby player’s mum spied on Israel Folau – how embarrassing!! I bet the son is grateful for his mum’s intervention!
https://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/israel-folaus-church-infiltrated-by-mother-of-world-cup-wallaby/news-story/0d42403c04406eb77c08a9691913fe6f
Joe Hildebrand is a total cockhead.
If ya gonna repeat something like that, do it in BOLD! 🙂
Although, I reckon scumo is about to take the title
It’s interesting that Joel Fitzgibbon was rabbiting on about the ALP’s excessive targets all day yesterday (something like 8 interviews I heard) even into the evening and it seems Anthony Albanese didn’t bother to pick up the phone to him.
I see a kite
and it seems Anthony Albanese didn’t bother to pick up the phone to him.
Could it be because Mark Butler had already shot him down?
It’s interesting that we are on the brink of a war, fully supported by our pm, and your worried about a nobody in the opposition party rabbiting on about what he has been for years.
Priorities I guess
It’s interesting that we are on the brink of a war, fully supported by our pm,
What the actual fuck are you talking about?
What the actual fuck are you talking about?
You really think that letting ISIS resurface is an accident?
“The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer, and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters, and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone.
Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable.” —
from an Associated Press report published in The Washington Post on Nov. 2, 1922.
You may have noticed that the predicted disaster 92 years ago did not happen, nor have other predicted catastrophes from the global-warming crowd.
“It’s interesting that we are on the brink of a war, fully supported by our pm,…”
Hang on……………who cares about a little War when we are all about to become extinct ?
ROFLMAO at you
You really think that letting ISIS resurface is an accident?
You really have lost it.
and your worried about….
So now climate policy (and the debate of it) is something we shouldn’t worry about?
By the way… I think you mean “you’re”
Andrew Neil vs XR spokesperson
The Age seems concerned – More than 100 climate activists arrested since protests began on Monday
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/more-than-100-climate-activists-arrested-since-protests-began-on-monday-20191010-p52zk2.html
And the protesters really seem to have gone to a great deal of trouble to glue themselves to the intersection
I say – let them continue their protest!! Stop the arrests!!
But motorists should be able to use the road too, so my solution is that Victoria Police should invest in a few of these-
https://www.diytrade.com/china/pd/3055466/Supply_DCQY_portable_hydraulic_pressure_and_board_the_car_bridge.html
Protesters can glue themselves to intersections for as long as they like and motorists get on with driving around!!
I recall a few years ago and a convoy of 5 trucks tried to barricade Parliament, in opposition to a Carbon Price.
The same numbnuts cheering on locking up protesters now were it’s biggest supporters.
‘Gift to climate alarmists’ exposes global warming junk science in 12 minutes
Who is Tony Heller?
business as usual for the yanks and their lackeys
First link above seems bad. This should work:
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/10/gift_to_climate_alarmists_exposes_global_warming_junk_science_in_12_minutes.html
a convoy of 5 trucks tried to barricade Parliament
That sounds dreadful! How many politicians were inconvenienced?
And how many working people were disrupted by those loonies with the super glue?
And… why Trump is wrong on the withdrawal from area occupied by the Kurds.
…can be summed up by – the US President has a duty to stick around and help resolve a problem the US helped create
From TomR’s tweet:
“It will almost inevitably lead to a Turkish attack on Kurdish militias in Syria — fighters who loyally helped the U.S. destroy the Islamic State, but whom Turkey bogusly claims to be terrorists.”
They make it sound as if the Kurds were fighting ISIS as a favour to the US. In fact, they had been fighting over territory long before the US got involved. And far from being a bogus claim, The USA, Turkey and Australia among others all have declared the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, known as the P.K.K, a terrorist organisation.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Workers%27_Party
fyi, the the Kurdistan Workers’ Party is not “The Kurds”
#justsayin
Which part of “The Kurds” is Turkey going after?
#educateyourself
First link above seems bad. This should work:
Nope, just links to another denialist.
https://skepticalscience.com/search.php?t=c&Search=Steve+Goddard
(btw, pretty sure american thinker is an oxymoron 😉 )
Which part of “The Kurds” is Turkey going after?
Currently, the ones that helped US defeat ISIS, and the ones who are currently (were) guarding them
Or are you saying that WE fought with terrorists against terrorists?
The P.K.K. is part of the “Kurdish militias in Syria … whom Turkey bogusly claims to be terrorists.”
And I note an article today (no link, hard copy in the AFR magazine) that 7 of the 10 “most powerful directors are women.
“We” fought alongside Iraqi Kurdistan.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_military_intervention_against_ISIL
So, are you trying to say that the Americans (and us) are NOT abandoning the Kurds who helped US defeat isis? is that really how you are trying to spin this?
I am saying Turkey is a NATO ally of the USA. Turkey has been in conflict with the Kurds for decades. The Middle East is a shit show and Trump campaigned on pulling US troops out.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_conflicts_in_the_Middle_East
“Scott Cam is Australia’s new national careers ambassador. Where did they get that idea?
Watch Season Four of #UtopiaABC now on ABC iview!”
So where did they get that idea ??????
In the Oz today
“We hate to break it to them, but hiring Cam is actually an idea Morrison borrowed from Labor; specifically, Kevin Rudd’s government (not an episode of ABC comedy Utopia, as some speculated). Strewth can reveal that Cam was paid $74,250 in taxpayer funds for a six-month Centrelink contract between December 7, 2009, and June 30, 2010, for “representational services”.
A Labor press release from March 24, 2010, says: “Parliamentary Secretary for Employment Jason Clare today announced that TV tradie Scott Cam will be on hand to help launch the ‘Keep Australia Working’ Centrelink Jobs Expo on Tuesday 30 March at Mingara (on NSW’s Central Coast) — from 10am to 3pm.” At the time, Clare was the junior to employment participation minister Mark Arbib.
The pair, plus then Labor MP for Dobell Craig Thomson, posed for a photo op with “Australia’s favourite tradie”. Arbib’s press release from March 30 says the free event was “one of more than 20 Keep Australia Working Job Expos the Rudd government is running in areas that have been hit hard by the Global Recession………………”.
So you were sayin’ TomR ?
So you were sayin’ TomR ?
That Labor didn’t slash TAFE funding, and then try and replace it with a masthead
Turkish forces began a long-anticipated cross-border assault on Wednesday against the Syrian Democratic Forces, a Kurdish-led militia, in northeastern Syria.
The dispute between Turkey and the Kurds has deep roots in regional power dynamics that have created a tangled web of interests. Further complicating the picture is the fact that the United States is an ally of both Turkey and the S.D.F., as the militia is known.
Oh, I took that from yor link tosy 😉
“Cam was paid $74,250 in taxpayer funds for a six-month Centrelink contract between December 7, 2009, and June 30, 2010, for “representational services”.
I think the “fake tradie” would’ve cost considerably less.
Oh, I took that from yor link tosy 😉
Good to see you’re educating yourself.😉
The US supported the SDF against ISIL, that’s just a fact. In fact I’d say the USA along with other coalition members helped SDF defeat ISIL, not the other was round.
Under their NATO alliance the US cannot back SDF against Turkey, and have decided not to stand between them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Democratic_Forces
Under their NATO alliance the US cannot back SDF against Turkey, and have decided not to stand between them.</i.
everyone else high up in the us military seem to disagree with you tosy (and with trump and trumpmo)
everyone else high up in the us military seem to disagree with you tosy (and with trump and trumpmo)
Yeah. You can’t get higher up in the military than Commander in Chief, can you?
Yeah. You can’t get higher up in the military than Commander in Chief, can you?
Obviously with his vast experience in the armed forces, he’s know better than those who didn’t skirt Vietnam
faark tosy, you are picking trumps call over the army chiefs ffs
faark tosy, you are picking trumps call over the army chiefs ffs
FYI, under their constitution the US has civilian control of the military, for good reason. And the military doesn’t make foreign policy. Thank Greta (pbuh).
under their constitution the US has civilian control of the military
I think my point still stands, you, like our pms is siding with trump over the military chiefs
Hope you are happy with the needless deaths created, and whatever else this unleashes
Somebody really needs a hobby if they`re reduced to watching kerry anne krackpot and sidekick joe.
The slomo puppet is just as pointless as the talkbull puppet teamcheerer.
https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js
Yeah thanks TomR’s Institute for Middle Eastern Studies, Q-Anon conspiracies and #handgate.
Yeah thanks TomR’s Institute for Middle Eastern Studies, Q-Anon conspiracies and #handgate.
Hey, I’m just repeating what pretty much everyone else is saying, except for trump, trumpmo and QAnon sympathizers (an actual terrorist organization, not one simply claimed by Turkey)
which one are you tosy?
Turkey considers the Kurdish YPG, the dominant force in the SDF, to be an extension of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/10/boy-12-among-casualties-turkey-intensifies-assault-kurds-northern/
#educateyourself 😉
An instructional video for TomR:
Where tosy is at 😉
https://www.queerty.com/hilarious-memes-prove-donald-trump-definitely-stable-genius-20180108
which one are you tosy?
I’m the one not nodding my head and mindlessly “just repeating what pretty much everyone else is saying”.
Yeah, it’s called thinking and research.
Yeah, it’s called thinking and research.
thinking
The P.K.K. is part of the “Kurdish militias in Syria … whom Turkey bogusly claims to be terrorists.”
except, you are just parroting Turkeys line, Nobody else agrees with them.
“Turkey considers the Kurdish YPG, the dominant force in the SDF, to be an extension of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK)”
remember
as for research
Under their NATO alliance the US cannot back SDF against Turkey
research isn’t just sweeping statements
The United States is the one country with sufficient leverage—as the leading nation in nato and the head of the coalition backing the S.D.F.—to have negotiated a way out of war.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/defying-the-world-turkey-launches-a-war-against-a-united-states-ally-in-syria
.(…it’s called thinking and research….
Good to know.)
except, you are just parroting Turkeys line, Nobody else agrees with them.
Nobody? Really? Aside from NATO, the EU, the UK, the US and all these you mean?
“ The following other individual countries have listed or otherwise labelled the PKK in an official capacity as a terrorist organization:
Australia,[221][222] Austria,[223] Azerbaijan,[224] Canada,[225] Czech Republic,[226] Germany,[227] Iran,[228] Japan,[229] Kazakhstan,[230] Kyrgyzstan,[231] the Netherlands,[232] New Zealand,[233] Spain,[234] Syria.[191] British Prime Minister Theresa May used the phrase “Kurdish terrorism”.[235]”
Loved that Fatboy Slim one ivi 😉
Not disagreeing with that tosy
but ya are messing up yer letters
YPG aint the PKK 😉
YPG aint the PKK 😉
They’re not? They’re usually mentioned in the same breath with just a forward-slash between them.
https://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-terror/2019/10/10/syrian-kurds-say-they-back-turkeys-operation-peace-spring-against-pkkypg
fer yer edification tosy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Protection_Units
Only Turkey has officially designated them.
Christian Leaders Say Turkish Invasion Of Syria Raises Risk Of ‘Genocide’
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/09/768697873/evangelical-christian-leaders-push-back-on-turkish-invasion-of-northern-syria
How long before they start claiming they are looking for WMD’s?
From your link TomR:
American Defense Secretary Ashton Carter confirmed “substantial ties” between the PYD/YPG and the PKK.[12] Testifying to the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee Congress, Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats, the top U.S. intelligence official, explicitly defined the YPG as the “PKK’s militia force in Syria”.
Soo confusing.
How long before they start claiming they are looking for WMD’s?
Guffaw. Trump would be criticised whether he sent troops in or pulled them out. You know it’s true.
Soo confusing.
What’s so confusing about “officially designated”?
More importantly, what does KAK think?
what does KAK think?
Who? 😉
(I’ll try this again.)
Not sure who TRT World are, probably a Turkish propaganda site. But I know Tom R will do a thorough vetting. Interesting points all the same.
The more you dig …
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/10/syria-us-allys-razing-of-villages-amounts-to-war-crimes/
Tom R will do a thorough vetting.
Beer O clock, I’ve logged off. Time for you to check your own shit, instead of finding crap that suits yor agenda 😉
Not sure though how many of the kids killed were terrorists though, actual or wished for?
Beer O clock, I’ve logged off. Time for you to check your own shit, instead of finding crap that suits yor agenda 😉
Why are you still here then?🤣😂
Unfortunately Saint Greta of the Immaculate Carbon Molecule did not win the Nobel Peace Prize. The committee just announced Abiy Ahmed prime minister of Ethiopia as the 2019 winner.
She was robbed!
Its a pity the Kurds don’t have any oil …
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/trump-sending-thousands-of-us-troops-to-saudi-arabia/news-story/5bdfec6ed61744e3ad4a12a227555857
Meanwhile Generalissimo Morriscum sends more of our ADF to another Middle East “hot spot” …
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2019/10/12/australian-fijian-troops-middle-east-peacekeeping-mission/
Beer Break 🙂
Kurdish fighters backed by the U.S. but considered terrorist organizations by Turkey. No injuries have been reported.
https://www.newsweek.com/us-troops-syria-turkey-1464727
Love this – ’bout time the Dems got angry/smart! WTF is Albanese?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/oct/11/elizabeth-warren-facebook-zuckerberg-trump-troll
Beer Break … Bogan
That’s because all US “troops” are speshul!
The internal review of the ALP loss of the election is provoking quite a lot of discussion among the barrackers regarding the reasons. Many barrackers blame-
1. A dumb/uneducated electorate
2. The concentration of the media/Murdoch
3. Morrison/Liberal lies
But…
1. We have essentially the same electorate as the one that elected Rudd and Gillard. The electorate is no dumber or less educated than it was a few years ago. ALP barrackers are unable to explain why tehy were intelligent enough to vote for an ALP government but then became dumb.
2. The mainstream media is no more concentrated now than when Gillard was PM. The mainstream media is in decline, there are endless options for information and news now. People congregate around social media, not traditional newspapers.
3. Even if Morrison lied, the public perception of politicians is so low that there is no expectation that they will tell the truth.
The reality is that the public did not trust Shorten (for entirely good reason) and they don’t trust the ALP.
THe ALP needs fundamental restructuring, but the report of the hacks will shy away from that.
(Let`s knot engage in too much overthinking and overresearching loyalties among battlefriends, as it could tewwa-fy the unsuspecting kurds in the south pacific.)
yomm forgot about $55 million in facebook conditioning
minor oversight, I agree 😉
But How Good is Hunger
How Good is kicking people when they are down, or attempting to silence them
Newstart recipient has payments suspended after appearing at Senate inquiry
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/11/newstart-recipient-has-payments-suspended-after-appearing-at-senate-inquiry
You know, if you keep attacking poor people, they might go hungry 😦
I wonder whether those that “go hungry” are still spending on smokes, grog and pokies.
3 meals –
*Cornflakes -500g – $3 & milk – 1l – $1.20 – 3 days = $1.40/day
*3 cans tuna – $3 & bread $2.50 – 3 days = $1.90/day
*packet pasta – $2 – & bacon, broccoli, carrots – $8 – 3 days = $3.50/day
If people “go hungry” it isn’t because they can’t afford food, it is more likely to be a result of the price of beer and cigarettes
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The ALP lost because they couldn’t get people to trust that the party would govern in their interests.
That results from the structure of the ALP, and all the shady dealings and behaviour that is reported in the NSW branch doesn’t stop at the Murray
I wonder whether those that “go hungry” are still spending on smokes, grog and pokies.
How to be a fuckwit, yomm style
In addition, more than half of the women (53%) surveyed who had faced food insecurity said they had experienced domestic violence, while 49% said they had been sole parents at some stage in their lives.
yea, it’s from the article, but you go ahead and continue to smear people suffering.
Before Albanese politicised that report he should have made sure the methodology behind it was sound. One in five doesn’t pass the pub test.
Click to access Foodbank_HungerReport_McCrindle_Oct2017_Digital.pdf
Who was it that was part of the chorus saying that alcohol, gambling etc was “a choice”?
One in five doesn’t pass the pub test.
if you believe it, it is so.
yomm, what is your point, apart from to seemingly blame people for their situation, instead of looking towards a solution?
>I>yomm, what is your point, apart from to seemingly blame people for their situation, instead of looking towards a solution?
What is Albo’s point, apart from blaming Scott Morrison and the government for political advantage? Does he offer a solution aside from TomR’s solution to climate change: Vote Labor.
What is Albo’s point, apart from blaming Scott Morrison and the government for being in grubmint for the past 6 years and seeing our living conditions deteriorate
Does he offer a solution a
They had quite a few solutions. Again, the sheep got sucked into voting against their interests.
Watching pensioners cry now as they realize they’ve been had would be amusing if not for being so depressing.
I mean, look at this moron
I was given a $6000 debt for a financial year I ONLY earnt $14000!
………………………………..
I am a coalition voter this is the department of Human Resources problem.
http://notmydebt.com.au/stories/notmydebt-stories/had-review-now-its-more
Where did they get their financial info from?! I have not done a tax return for last 2 financial years! So they simply guessed my income for last 4 years!
Maybe if they did their tax returns like everyone else … but no, it’s all Sco Mo’s fault! Vote Labor.
Talk about missing the point tosy lol
It’s all going swimmingly
AKCAKALE, Turkey — Turkish forces approached a key Kurdish-held town in northern Syria on Sunday, setting off clashes that allowed hundreds of Islamic State supporters to escape from a camp for displaced people and prompted U.S. soldiers to withdraw from a nearby base.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/is-members-escape-as-turkish-forces-approach-key-syrian-town
Talk about missing the point tosy lol
Gotta see it to miss it TR … must be nice to be ignorantly well off and naive … Marie Antoinette certainly left a legacy …
let them eat cake? *
Is’nt that when they greased the tumbrils and sharpened Madame Guillotine? Ha, those were the days …
* We did live off army ration packs for two weeks once … well the bits I didn’t eat brought home … oh, what fun … then off to the RSL for a few beers, play the pokies and nick a few fag ends for later …
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
It’s all going swimmingly
And – the ignorantly well off and naive – still “defend” the bastard – talk about blood on his hands – and a Napoleonic syndrome … (While I’m on the French Revolution theme) …
Catch ya later – off to the latest project.
1. essentially the same electorate as .. Rudd and Gillard .. @Tick
3. public perception of politicians is so low .. @Tick
2. media is no more concentrated now .. @Wrong @network nine has swallowed fairfax .. but neither seperate nor united .. Legacy outlets had know hope in hell selling blib stooten to the knifed voters of the 15-in-play electorates .. most of which are in bananaland .. still a severe hangover of the glorious knifing days.
Gotta see it to miss it
Are all apologists as blind?
When it comes to government debt, the Morrison government is desperate for you to keep your eyes and ears closes and ignore the facts.
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/ignore-government-debt-225040404.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw
That may all be true teamcheerer. Nobody really expects anything beyond 156 weeks of crapulance on Muppet-Island until the next fedvote. The dishwaters missing components remain tho. No a-team opposition and alternative govt, still running a b-team. No ability to un-wedge themselves (from self-wedged) with knifed voters in the 15-in-play electorates. No likely victory in 119 weeks while dishwaters remain in denial of the knifed voters wreckage, allowing the teabags to trudge over the line. Again! .. Hoping that the zombies annoy enough voters in 30-and 40 year deep teabag blue seats to change govt to b-team with-knifers is a very, very, very long shot.
Can you imagine the outrage from the left if the US government interfered in universities in the same manner as the Chinese government.
“Can you imagine the outrage from the left if the US government interfered in universities in the same manner as the Chinese government.”
I think that boat sailed a long time ago YoM, did a round the world trip hundreds of times, was refurbished thrice and then recently decommissioned after Taco Bell opened its 100th restaurant in Broadmeadows…
Next…!!!!
Can you imagine the outrage from the left if the US government interfered in universities in the same manner as the Chinese government.
Don’t they already?
I know the US culture is quite pervasive here, a friend said recently – “I used to be so anti-American, and disliked their culture, but then I started to think – many of the books I read are American, so is the music, and the films I watch, and I enjoy them”
I’m not sure the US government intervenes quite the same way in scrutiny of students here. I’ll report more after I’ve read the book on the subject by Clive Hamilton. He seems to make some valid points.
Add this one to your reading list 😉
https://www.smh.com.au/national/us-influence-on-our-unis-makes-chinese-interference-more-likely-20190311-p513ei.html
And I’m sure once you read The Silent Invasion you’ll be well informed.
And I’m sure once you read The Silent Invasion you’ll be well informed.
Too busy for that shit 😉
But Hamilton misrepresents the alternative approach he so denigrates. That approach looks to encourage China to build on its market-based reforms and the “opening up” agenda since 1978. This would continue China’s economic growth and alleviation of poverty, enhance Australia’s economic fortunes and build more shared interests, including in global stability and security. It would also promote increased freedoms within China.
https://theconversation.com/book-review-clive-hamiltons-silent-invasion-chinas-influence-in-australia-93650
I’ll stick with historical fiction, not modern fictions.
https://www.goodreads.com/series/44108-conqueror
Why should the leftish huff`n puff???? You will find muppet-island uni`s were turned into profit churners under the teabags. Of course, once this happened ; Why wouldn`t foreign govts send party devotionals to learn how to stick it to muppet island for merely a `fee`??
PS Folks can like hollywood films or chuck berry (culture) and NOT their corporatocrasy class system ; and NOT their halfwit corrupt govt. Or have you now gone trumpian??
@reb yep, boat sailed long ago.
It would also promote increased freedoms within China.
Yeah, right. I’ve no doubt the people of Hong Kong have faith in this approach too
Teamcheerer, do you really believe “also promote increased freedoms within China ” by whiteguy? promoting his book. l seriously doubt anybody coming from a muppet island with a three year election-planning cycle can comprehend that china plans in decades and halfcenturies. Any “increased freedoms within China ” may not be visible during our lifetimes. While china is being so globally successful, l doubt it is their priority.
“It would also promote increased freedoms within China.”
Yeah right……………just like it has already.
Mind you appointing Xie as quasi dictator is something you would do if things are not going so swimmingly well.
Wherever they end up he will öwn”this part of China’s history and perhaps that’s what a few of his colleagues are waiting for.
They play a Long Game over there
Yes, what exactly are the actions of PRC that should give us confidence in China’s “increased freedoms”?
* Their treatment of internal ethnic minorities?
* Their observance of international law regarding territorial claims?
* Hong Kong?
* Their gaoling of dissidents?
* Freedom of the press?
Tom R, why should we have confidence that China will choose a path of “increased freedoms”?
And what exactly is the rationale for not being (at least) a little concerned about their increasing interference in our universities and domestic politics?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xi_Jinping#Censorship
“Document No. 9” is a confidential internal document widely circulated within the Communist Party of China in 2013 by the party’s General Office.[107][108] It was first published in July 2012.[109]
The document warns of seven dangerous Western values: constitutional democracy, universal values, civil society, pro-market neo-liberalism, media independence, historical nihilism (criticisms of past errors) and questioning the nature of Chinese style socialism.[110] Coverage of these topics in educational materials is forbidden.[
Yes very free
Its all perspective blubbers. By spank or by tank china will bring hongkong one style of freedom, just as we mass murdered brown iraq citizens to bring crude oil its freedom. No point fretting about the media comparison either, both systems drown citizens in oceans of bullshit, no difference.
The document warns of seven dangerous Western values: constitutional democracy, universal values, civil society, pro-market neo-liberalism, media independence, historical nihilism (criticisms of past errors) and questioning the nature of Chinese style socialism.[110] Coverage of these topics in educational materials is forbidden.[
Thanks for the link …
Odd that the most religious groups are run by men and don’t adhere to any kind of democracy at all and most Western democracies are in fact bastardised corporatocracies (the more money, the more influence),
Universal values exist in any culture not sure what that means here?
Civil society is amusing considering the rush to create laws to stop protesters locally and Nationally,
Media independence? Its all fake news – apparently – personally I blame the Murdoch dynasty for every ineffective Western government … and there’s a lot of ’em …
Historical nihilism exists wherever Europeans explored, exploited and invaded indigenous lands (from memory a philosopher(?) Schwartz? was the one to read)
Questioning China’s socialism – isn’t that what this is? And don’t you lot get uptight when religion, politics and government stupidity are questioned?
Educational materials have been suppressed by Western governments for decades – and currently still are … ask the LGBTI folk!
Its not just Reds Under the Beds or the Yellow Peril blasts from the pasts – even more disturbing is the covert religious movement taking over Western Governments … AGAIN!
https://nationalprayerbreakfast.org/past-breakfasts/
Yeah TB, we’re just like China, and Russia.
xq! Somebody makes a lot of trumpian comments.
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guardian .. “has blasted Michaelia Cash for refusing to say how much taxpayers are paying The Block star Scott Cam to promote vocational education in his new role as national careers ambassador. At a press conference on Thursday the skills and employment minister said Cam`s pay for the 15-month role was commercial in confidence but suggested spending was about outcomes and”
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/11/coalition-refuses-to-say-how-much-scott-cam-is-being-paid-as-national-careers-ambassador
@-this is another dose of fcukwits all round blubbers. The primary FACT is there are 2mill jobseekers and 150ooo jobs available last month, mostly junkjobs. No legacy outlet included the primary fact. The goblins at my abc only had three lines of text on the radio-site page. The guardian goblins waffled a bit about decade-old WotLaborDid, but l`m certain the LimitedNews goblins will have left them in the dust on that point.
@-no Legacy outlet included that for the last 30ish years tradies have been under constant attack by these teabag dcikheads; and tradies send the kiddies to uni, which is part of the reason more tech-schools have closed. Nor were viewers told the whole promotional spend will be a pure waste of money, as it has bugger-all chance of producing the results. The govt will be stuck issuing more fifo/visas. Too late dcikheads.
How Good is Greece!
Seems like someone may have worked out how to handle ‘fake news’
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2019/oct/15/scott-morison-coalition-labor-drought-politics-live?page=with:block-5da574de8f084862358fe3e7#block-5da574de8f084862358fe3e7
The document warns of seven dangerous Western values: constitutional democracy, universal values, civil society, pro-market neo-liberalism, media independence,
Yea, right
https://www.smh.com.au/national/australia-leads-the-western-world-on-media-restrictions-un-rapporteur-20190712-p526ko.html
Tom R, why should we have confidence that China will choose a path of “increased freedoms”?
We shouldn’t. But, we should probably be more worried about what is happening right here right now with our own oppressive regime
Yeah TB, we’re just like China, and Russia.
Nothing get’s past you ToM, hey?
And TR, nails another one …
Love to “chat” – the project calls!
“Slower than Greece”
What a completely f***ing stupid thing to say.
Greece has a long period of economic decline and extremely painful adjustment, the human cost of the change has been huge.
The decline has now bottomed out and growth is returning, this is what happens with economies.
To simply categorise Greece as the permanent benchmark in basket-case economies is outrageous, reinforces the stereotype and is not far removed from being racist.
“Slower than Greece. Let that one sink in……….”
But stronger than
Germany 1.2
France 1.3
Italy .6
Belgium 1.2
Austria 1.6
Finland 1.2
Japan .9
UK 1.2
Singapore .5
Switzerland .8
Sweden .9
So your point being ?
Greece has a long period of economic decline</i.
Yea, we've only had 6 years 😉
So your point being ?
That they keep telling us we have a STRONG economy, when it’s a fucked as many other countries.
Greg Jericho
The treasurer is correct to say that the IMF projects Australia’s GDP growth this year will be faster than any G7 nation except the USA. But we of course are not part of the G7; we are part of the OECD, and of the 34 member nations, our growth is projected to be the 19th best.
Not quite so impressive
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2019/oct/16/economy-coalition-labor-morrison-albanese-politics-live?page=with:block-5da65a368f084862358fec8e#block-5da65a368f084862358fec8e
That they keep telling us we have a STRONG economy, when it’s a fucked as many other countries.
Yeah, particularly Greece’s (stereotyping bordering on racism)
I’ve made the complaint to Fairfax too, but Tom R thinks this type of stereotyping is fine to repeat.
(stereotyping bordering on racism)
ROFL
after all the times you’ve held them up as some kind of an example of a failed doctrine ROFL
Really? I’ve pointed out that (a generation ago) their debt to GDP was about where we are now. That’s a fact, and I posted links to show that.
The comment that you posted was intended to identify Greece as the benchmark in economic basket-cases, even though their economy has been growing for 3 years.
Casual ridicule/disparagement of a nation is not far from racism.
The comment that you posted was intended to identify Greece as the benchmark in economic basket-cases
It was to highlight that the “benchmark” that you etal have created turns out to be ……………..bullshit
Nice try at deflection, but even nil couldn’t fall for that level of stoopid
No, you and the link were ridiculing Greece, the progress it has made in the past few years and ignoring the fact that after years of severe hardship the economy is growing reasonably and steadily.
The Greek economy is no longer an example of an economic basket-case, unless you want to stereotype and ridicule the nation.
* Near casual racism
* Near casual racism
Smells of desperation ROFL
https://greekcitytimes.com/2019/10/16/greeces-economy-predicted-grow-faster-australias/
https://neoskosmos.com/en/148577/the-imf-says-australian-economy-is-worse-than-greece-but-thats-only-on-the-surface/
How authoritative-
new exclusive report published in Australian newspapers The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald
“Casual ridicule/disparagement of a nation is not far from racism.”
oh FFS.
oh FFS.
Chuckle …
“While this student can read quite well he still struggles with comprehension of the simplest statements” 1/10
Attendance V.Good
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No worries…
Casual racism is one form of racism. It refers to conduct involving negative stereotypes or prejudices about people on the basis of race, colour or ethnicity.
Unlike overt and intentional acts of racism, casual racism isn’t often intended to cause offence or harm.
In many cases people do not recognise their words and deeds are racist. It’s simply seen as part of Australian culture to ‘take the piss’ out of people.
https://itstopswithme.humanrights.gov.au/what-can-you-do/speak/casual-racism
Casual racism doesn’t stand a chance against casual stoopidism
So why bother to ridicule Greece?
https://tradingeconomics.com/greece/gdp-growth
“The treasurer suggested things weren’t that bad because “the IMF has confirmed that the Australian economy will grow faster than any G7 nation, except the United States”. Now that is true as far as it goes (which is not very far), but we are not members of the G7. We are, however, members of the OECD, and among those nations we are in the bottom half.
We are projected to have worse GDP per capita growth this year than any of the G7 nations and the fifth worst of all 36 OECD nations..”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/17/did-you-enjoy-the-good-times-because-the-economic-outlook-for-australia-has-tanked
and the fifth worst of all 36 OECD nations.
Don’t be so OECDist reb!
What the lib/nats has done to our river system is nothing short of criminal. Except, of course, only those demonstrating against it get jailed.
And people here are worried about China ffs
Lower Darling pushed into drought three years early because of sheer volume of water extraction by just a few licence holders
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/aug/21/big-irrigators-take-86-of-water-from-barwon-darling-report-finds?CMP=share_btn_tw
But how can they get away with it? Easy, mates who make the laws
And while our grubmint runs around crying ‘dams, dams, dams’, we’ve actually been financing these dam things, and they are part of the problem, not the solution.
Up to 30 dams built with government subsidies, despite minister’s claim
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“Taxpayers have paid for new dams that increase water use, damage the environment and exacerbate the problems of the Murray,” its report said.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/up-to-30-dams-built-with-government-subsidies-despite-minister-s-claim
So when we see the crocodile tears, don’t forget who to blame. The current Government!
The libs have seen the destruction of so much. And it has all been done deliberately, with the full knowledge of the repercussions
“It’s extremely disappointing that it was the first Coalition government elected after Labor’s interregnum in 2013 that presided over the closure of the car industry. It would not have taken much to ensure that maybe not Ford but Holden and Toyota maintained capacity in Australia.
“Instead, they were basically told that they could go away and that we couldn’t care less.”
Considering what the libs have done to the river system, this doesn’t surprise
Environment department illegally withholds thousands of FOI pages
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/16/environment-department-illegally-withholding-thousands-of-foi-pages?CMP=share_btn_tw
“Don’t be so OECDist reb!”
😆 😆 😆
“It’s extremely disappointing that it was the first Coalition government elected after Labor’s interregnum in 2013 that presided over the closure of the car industry.”
Oh that would be the industry full of workers who wanted it to close down so they could collect their massive lump sums.
Oh that would be the industry full of workers who wanted it to close down so they could collect their massive lump sums.
wally talking out of his arse again
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-10/jericho-dont-blame-the-workers-for-poor-productivity/5956380
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I just had a very odd experience.
A Kiwi gentleman just knocked on my front door and asked me if he could purchase our house. It was a very generous offer (not that I’m at all money driven) but I politely turned him down.
We got into a bit of a conversation and I asked him why he wanted to buy in the area and he said he had been checking out the area for a couple of months and had yet to see any abandoned shopping trolleys and noted that our local supermarket does not require a gold coin to use a trolley. Other things he noticed were proximity to the beach and Broken Bay plus a total lack of “veiled people” and apparently he had yet to see a firm of immigration lawyers. All these things made the area desirable according to him.
Anyway I wished him well and he was on his way.
Never had someone knock on our door to buy the place
Oh my, a HR Manager feels emotionally distraught at being made redundant.
That’s not a sad story, it’s fkn karma!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-17/the-price-of-rising-job-insecurity/11608870
“not that I’m at all money driven”
Scuse me while I wipe the coffee from my screen…
“I politely turned him down.”
Was it because he was a New Zealander?
What have you got against them…?
“he noted that our local supermarket does not require a gold coin to use a trolley”
That’s always at the top of my criteria when deciding whether to move somewhere too.
What have you got against them…?
ohohs
COTTON FUCKING COTTON!
I’ve been railing about cotton since 1992 … I watched the Fairbairn Dam near Emerald virtually disappear in four years … travelling there ten times (plus) a year … cotton farmers had used three times their allotted water (ie three years worth in a year!)
Cotton sucks up water like a sponge … and the elephant in the room … Cubbie Station not only sucks water out of the system but stops any going down the Murray Darling … and who owns it – the fucking Chinese …
We need to grow HEMP … leave the cotton to monsoon drenched India!
It’s not rocket science … but way above the IQ of the Happy Clappy Morrison Acolytes – does anyone at all thimk* logically in the LNP? Or is it just the Party for Profiteering?
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I feel so cheap after reading Wally’s experience above … I wonder what it’s like to live in Wonderland … explains a lot past and present comments … and of course very UC British …
A Kiwi gentleman just knocked on my front door…
How did they get past the security gate?
COTTON FUCKING COTTON!
Sanctioned theft, that has killed our river.
Same mob who killed the automotive industry, and are currently strangling IT
Photos reveal Queensland cotton farms full of water while Darling River runs dry
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jan/31/photos-reveal-queensland-cotton-farms-full-of-water-while-darling-river-runs-dry
“How did they get past the security gate?”
The lawn mower man was here with the gate wide open
“How did they get past the security gate?”
If you negotiate the minefield in the drive
And beat the dogs and cheat the cold electronic eyes
And if you make it past the shotgun in the hall
Dial the combination, open the priest hole
And if I’m in I’ll tell you
“And if you make it past the shotgun in the hall…”
Then you are quite likely to come face to face with a very menacing looking Mrs Walrus clutching her very powerful compound bow with a rather pointy arrow aimed right at your chest LOL
She was NSW state champion a couple of times in years past and still competes.
Yep, when Greece achieves some modest growth for 3 years, after (probably) the most serious economic downturn in a western country, the left still (ignorantly) use it the benchmark for an economic basket-case.
Generation, stereotyping of a country with a particular cultural identity. Not far from racism.
warns of seven dangerous Western values: corporational democracy, unitedstates values, civil skyfairy, rabid-market neo-teabagism, media dependence, sciencede nihilism (criticisms of past errors) and questioning the nature of Chinese style dim sum.
Generalisation…
Getting all het up about cotton is way too late. Just how much cotton does bananaland (or muppet island) produce now`a days anyway? Why not enjoy .. todays fcukups instead .. like draining full reservoir .. to repair the relatively NEW dam wall. (-: Or we could pontificate .. that in five years time .. agro bananaland hillbillys .. will finally discover .. there are no jobs .. in a robotic quarry .. robotic port .. or robotic rail link. (-:
bloody lefties ROFL
https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/australias-economic-growth-to-fall-to-decadelow/news-story/9bf7b8ceeaae415eb5a5377688e04745
This is hilarious, if it wasn’t so sad (“and are currently strangling IT”)
Even when they make up their own numbers, they still can’t win lol
NBN Co claims Australia could rate as high as 13th in the world post NBN rollout for broadband – ahead of New Zealand and the UK – as long as its own measure of success is used.
https://www.itnews.com.au/news/nbn-co-claims-it-will-take-australia-to-13th-in-the-world-for-broadband-532507
Haw haw .. wireCo is a dead duck teamcheerer. lt recently stuck its landline system on our home. And area. Major problem for them is the so-called NEW wireCo system relys on the building having its own electric. For 60+ years the family home would have been lucky to have (state-owned) electric failure half a dozen times. ln da privatized-era, during heat-waves in the last 8years .. we get 2-or 3 failures a year. Massive problem for homes like mine where PRIMARY reason for landline is to be able to phone ambulance for elderly parent. We are being told Dec2020 the original telecom system will be switched-off on us, like it or lump it.
“Generation, stereotyping of a country with a particular cultural identity. Not far from racism.”
FMD. YoM’s turned into fkn Yoda.
Or Catching Up, I blame my mobile for the auto correction, and being too clunky to use!
What’s TBs excuse?
… a very menacing looking Mrs Walrus clutching her very powerful compound bow …
Chuckle!
For which you do not need a licence!
The Minister, favours a crossbow! Needs a licence – why?
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The “Left”?
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What’s TBs excuse?
I don’t need one … stick yer shit on someone else … and change yer fkn fone …
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As, Jim Rhone, said (look him up):
“You’re not a tree … move.”
So mrs blubbers has bow`n arrows and some tunc hasn`t been skewered. She`s a fcuking saint!
“The Minister, favours a crossbow! Needs a licence – why?”
It’s because they are far more concealable e.g in a larger backpack. Some can be dismantled very easily and reassembled very quickly and can be loaded and fired accurately very quickly
There are also pistol sized crossbows which can be easily concealed in clothing. They fire an equally lethal smaller bolt than a standard cross bow
It’s much more difficult to conceal a compound bow.
“Then you are quite likely to come face to face with a very menacing looking Mrs Walrus clutching her very powerful compound bow with a rather pointy arrow aimed right at your chest.”
Let’s not get hysterical. Some people assume it’s always wrong to smash a cripple in the face. But is it?
Good on Ricky-Lee Someone-or-other. Just sang the national anthem prior to the Everest at Randwick. She correctly pronounced it ’advants’ Australia fair. Not fkn ‘advarnce’, ffs.
I’ve been thinking. I think it was an LNP MP who suggested some time ago that we should applaud war veterans when they take their seats as passengers on airlines just like they do in the US.
While this caused some conjecture at the time, it seems to me that it would be far less controversial and perhaps more fitting for those in economy to stand and applaud those of us who area seated in business and first class.
It’s a sad fact of reality that there’s virtually no profit margin in economy priced seats for airlines these days so it seems only reasonable that those of us who are forking out grossly inflated prices for business and first class tickets should be recognised for our contribution in subsiding those travelling in economy thereby making their travel more affordable.
It makes a lot of sense when you think about it, and it would just be a small but important gesture in these times when the sacrifices of the few for the benefit of the many are so often overlooked.
That’s a fair point Reb. I hereby add my endorsement to all those (of us) who selflessly subsidise the hapless ‘coach’ passengers. Onyouse! 👍
Thanks ToSY. I knew I could rely on you to recognise good sense when you see it.
Naturally, it would be gauche to go overboard, so just a few minutes of standing applause while boarding and disembarking would be sufficient.
Yes, a standing ovation for actual paying passengers in business and first class is entirely appropriate.
I don’t think the positioning pilots and hostiles and families of airline executives should get the ovation. Although perhaps the actual executives deserve it.
I see the ALP is still in an election losing position, and look what they’re up against! Bizarre, but blame Murdoch or something
The curse of moonee fcuking ponds will ensure that team dishwater cannot overcome the demographic mathematics. l reckon the next fedvote will also show da-greenz have already reached Peak-Victory too. Beyond the quarry, we will remain stuck with the teabag zombies pissing away the future of muppet island.
This is worth a read…
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/melbourne/programs/drive/raf-epstein-press-freedom-editorial/11624664
Raf Epstein is the best journalist/broadcaster around, it’s a pity the ABC doesn’t require all their journalists to observe his standard.
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Why would The Age bother to publish this self serving pap from a sore loser ?
The most significant hurdles faced this decade to Qantas’ profit have been industrial disputes caused by worsening employer-employee relations, which I have seen firsthand and am at my wits’ end trying to resolve.
https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/is-alan-joyce-worth-24-million-a-year-his-record-suggests-not-20191016-p5319d.html
Same mob who killed the automotive industry, and are currently strangling IT
Still being misleading TomR? In 2006 we made 25% of cars. By 2013 locally made cars were only 10% of the market. When Ford announced they were leaving when Gillard was PM the industry was dead. It died because people stopped buying aussie made cars.
https://autoexpert.com.au/posts/why-the-holden-factory-really-closed
But what’s not being said here – by neither Ford nor Holden – what they will not say – is that they got their manufacturing operations, staggeringly, horribly wrong.
Ford and Holden stopped building the cars that Australians wanted to drive. Therefore, they bought elsewhere. It’s that simple. This process happened over many years. It was identifiable and the operations were salvageable – for a long time. But Ford and Holden luxuriated through a decade of the worst ever product planning decisions, floating on a sea of public money – taxpayer funds. We paid them to get this wrong.
Yes. Too bad the shark of self interest needs to be biting chunks out of their arse before Legacy outlet staff start kicking goals. More often than not they are too easily brushed off with; on water matters; operational security; and clowntown bubble; as answers. Or seeking out some kind of reality denier to offer an alternative to fact or physics.
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That`s a bubble question! l`m here to tell voters what they really need to know! lf they vote dishwater. They will get dishwater!
This thread is something about Teh Climate, so this is on topic:
Except tosy, awkwardly for the slower ones, everyone took a ‘climate change policy’ to the election, it’s just that one of them lied.
https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/federal-election-2019-what-you-need-to-know-about-australias-climate-change-policies/news-story/0002c7dfbfb66d59f37afb020628ad25
It won`t matter how many whether-klubz the dishwaters try to have muppet island join. Nor will it matter how loudly 2gb`rs deny the existance of whether. All muppet islanders and their baby primate will soon discover they will be ruled by insurance, ice, insects, plankton, plastic and krill. The inert teams of clowntown will deliver exactly Zero of anything meaningful to muppet islanders, tho that won`t stop their devotionals dying in the ditch on behalf of their team.
another privatisation fiasco. Literally $Billions of taxpayer dollars flushed down the corporate maw
And, at some point, we will all pay for this robbery
Australians with private health insurance will face hefty premium increases next year – likely to be twice the rate of inflation
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/health-insurance-premiums-to-rise-after-government-deal-fails-to-reduce-costs-20191022-p5331g.html
“Superior” economic managers ROFL
Productivity is the engine of the economy and it has basically stalled under this government, according to its own Productivity Commission.
After a generation in which labour productivity had run at about 2%, it’s fallen most recently to 0.2%, just one-tenth of its previous level. The Productivity Commission calls the results ‘troubling’ and ‘mediocre’.
In fact, productivity is going backwards in farming, in mining, in construction, in transport and in retail.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2019/oct/23/coalition-labor-morrison-albanese-drought-asylum-politics-live?page=with:block-5daf88618f0859498cfb289d#block-5daf88618f0859498cfb289d
And it’s about to get worst
Just as a matter of interest, how does the left recommend increasing productivity?
Just as a matter of interest, how does the left recommend increasing productivity?
I’m not sure about ‘teh left’, but I’d start with a fair days pay for a fair days work 😉
Of course, it’s purely coincidence that productivity plummeted at the same time the war on Unions ramped up, innit?
You mentioned low productivity in construction, do you think people in that industry are underpaid?
And how do unions contribute to productivity?
Just let the muppets poach a little longer @MrsBucket .. They`ll be done soon dear.
do you think people in that industry are underpaid?
I think their work site is a war zone.
A war begun by the companies, and under attack simply for being IN a Union
And how do unions contribute to productivity?
Perhaps I should remind you of a wise verse mentioned way back in time?
a fair days pay for a fair days work
Fact: By 2025, in six years time, china will have completed building 350-to 400 coal-burners around the world. They will have completed around 200 coal burners already, which will be chugging out smoke for the next 40, 50, 60-years or more.
Nothing l have heard from the left (both greenz and dishwaters) so far is going to mitigate an iota of the fact above. The weather clubs, carbon taxes and pollution-trading scams WILL cost muppet island/ers lots of cash, may impress some; but will ultimately have no bang-4 bucks, as the natural world (nature,physics) do NOT function on, or respond to, this type of stimuli. So far these ideas of the left are nothing more than a fools paradise.
“how do unions contribute to productivity?”
I might be going out on a limb, but of I had to hazard a guess, I’d say something along the lines of ensuring that hard working people earn a fair wage and have enough leisure time to spend it, and aren’t just taken advantage of by employers.
Here’s YoM’s idea of the free market contributing to productivity…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-15/crown-whistle-blower-fresh-claims-treatment-of-high-rollers/11601232
and aren’t just taken advantage of by employers.
COMMIE!
After a generation in which labour productivity had run at about 2%, it’s fallen most recently to 0.2%
Haven’t checked … but I’d hazard a guess that relates pretty closely to salary and wage stagnation too …
Ya can’t run a business like a country … and ya can’t run a country like a business … ya can run a country’s economy and a household pretty much the same …
Let me know if you disagree, but it is generally acknowledged that the major single factor effecting productivity is capital investment.
Many industries are in a malaise due to the lack of capital investment. It’s a significant reason for the decline of manufacturing.
Investment is plant isn’t supported by the militancy of unions that cover construction, overhaul and expansion.
Companies that have a few billion to invest want certainty of completion and cost. Our environment for capital investment doesn’t stack up that well internationally.
It’s a significant reason for the decline of manufacturing.
Yea, telling your largest manufacturing base to fuck off is a great way to support investment 😉
Multi nationals don’t give a crap about the political argy bargy.
They worry about predictable return on their investment, and the timely completion of projects, so that it can return to production
Australia is well down the list of locations that provide this certainty
“””Yea, telling your largest manufacturing base to fuck off is a great way to support investment””””
TomR
Misleading and deceiving people is that main characteristic of ALP/Greens supporters and you mislead more than most
https://autoexpert.com.au/posts/why-the-holden-factory-really-closed
“””””Ford and Holden stopped building the cars that Australians wanted to drive. Therefore, they bought elsewhere. It’s that simple.”””””””
“Let me know if you disagree”
I think that’s how you should begin all your posts.
“Australia is well down the list of locations that provide this certainty”
This list sounds really interesting.
Would you have a link to it?
I think that’s how you should begin all your posts.
I always thought that was a given?
However, I’m used to the bleedin’ obvious, followed quickly by banal questions.
Laugh of the day .. pro-mo for reportland .. There are thousands of opal tower and mascot towers out there .. there goes ya productivity knuckleheads (-:
Multi nationals don’t give a crap about the political argy bargy.
Multi nationals disagree
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/taunts-in-parliament-and-text-brought-about-general-motors-holdens-exit-from-australia-20131211-2z6i6.html
Even the headkicker himself admits it was his party wot done it.
It’s extremely disappointing that it was the first Coalition government … that presided over the closure of the car industry. It would not have taken much to ensure that, maybe not Ford but Holden and Toyota maintained capacity in Australia. Instead they were basically told that they could go away and that we couldn’t care less.
TomR
Telling lies helps nobody. They left because people stopped buying the cars they made. When Ford announced they were leaving when Gillard was PM the industry was dead.
Locally made cars went from 25% of the market in 2006 to only 10% by 2013. It died under Rudd/Gillard
Telling lies helps nobody.
Blame the GM and Holden execs and the libs headkicker, I’m just repeating their words. Take it up with them.
I’d repeat hockeys words too, but it’s redundant, especially to a git with the memory of a gold fish
https://autoexpert.com.au/posts/why-the-holden-factory-really-closed
The Government actually had the balls, the audacity, to audit what Australians got in return for for their generosity towards Holden and Ford.
to audit
lol
I think you misspelt (sic) ‘stitch up’
btw, here’s yor go to guy 😉
john Cadogan is a crass, misogynistic clown that uses rhetoric and bombastic language in order to try and further his own brokerage business. He’s widely regarded as a joke in the industry he claims to be an expert in, I actually thought it was satire until I looked into him.
Just ignore the utter garbage that comes out of his mouth, he’s only trying to scare people and promote his own little business.
https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2556238
nil, going with the pros lol
Typical. You cannot debate his points so you abuse him. But Cadogan is right when he said this
Ford and Holden stopped building the cars that Australians wanted to drive. Therefore, they bought elsewhere. It’s that simple.
You cannot debate his points
His points are rendered pointless because of what the people actually involved have said on the public record.
Let’s not forget that this douche doesn’t actually make any points, none that are backed up with facts anyway.
He reckons they made the wrong cars (true for a while) but ignores the transition Holden were doing to smaller cars and electric ones.
He obviously has an axe to grind, but doesn’t know how to do it
TomR
What did people say on the public record?
Cadogan is right. Locally made cars went from 25% of the market in 2006 to only 10% by 2013. Why the hell do you think Ford announced they were leaving when Gillard was PM? People stopped buying the cars they were making. And most of the people in that link you posted thought highly of Cadogans opinions
90% of his reviews are bang on the money, and he cuts through the BS.
But then the other 10% are pure rubbish.
Shame really, because with a 90/10 strike rate that’s near perfect… it’s an injustice that the 10% he gets off the reservation on, undermines the greater proportion he gets exactly right.
He needs to also drop the attempt at comedy and the swearing… it’s poorly executed and makes him look silly.
But like anything in life… if we look at the greater good, and that’s the 90% he nails…. he’s doing a great job.
What did people say on the public record?
hi again goldfish
I have seen it said on public record that Hockey said BOO and Holden was so insulted they up and left. Well if that is true thank goodness they left. Who wants companies like that hanging around
“how do unions contribute to productivity?”
How do employers contribute to productivity?
https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/rockpool-restaurant-chain-accused-of-underpaying-workers-at-least-10-million/news-story/6df4a96ef58e667773ccf69966438b48
Looking after employees rights helps productivity – no unions and more and more employers run roughshod over employees …
People are not just a “resource”!
To work effectively and efficiently, good employer – employee relationships are symbiotic …
TB
I agree
But Toyota management asked their workers to instead of having a 3 week shutdown at Christmas to change it to a more normal 10 day shutdown. The Unions disagreed and took it to the high court. No wonder Toyota left
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/toyota-joined-by-federal-government-in-court-appeal-of-work-conditions-20140128-31l1t.html
He cited the 21-day Christmas shutdown at Toyota’s factories, the half day of work on the last day before shutdown, as well as 10 days paid leave for union delegates. ”These clauses shouldn’t have been in the agreement,” he told the Sydney Institute.
Lazy bludgers. These guys deserved to lose their jobs. They could not give a stuff about Australia. Only concerned about keeping their high paying jobs at taxpayers expense. I am so happy that these lazy bludgers lost their jobs
“…………….no unions and more and more employers run roughshod over employees …”
ROFLMAO………….oh really ?
The Union didn’t discover this an employee did…………
“The ABC has joined a long list of employers committing wage theft, after a new report from the Community and Public Sector Union shows it knowingly underpaid 2,500 casual staff by $22.9 million.
According to the CPSU report, the ABC ignored formal complaints from staff and their unions, and also ignored opportunities to proactively fix the underpayment.
The Australian Council of Trade Unions (ACTU) said it has been 10 months since a CPSU member formally disputed their pay and raised issues with the payment of casual staff at the ABC, but the national broadcaster has failed to take action.
No staff members have been paid back, with management informing casual staff that repayment of wages had been delayed indefinitely.”
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/abc-underpays-2500-casual-staff-by-23-million-report-shows-050425958.html
“…………but it is generally acknowledged that the major single factor effecting productivity is capital investment.”
Absolutely !
Then IR reform
“The Union didn’t discover this an employee did…………
Eventually … unions used to protect workers from this shit … thieves liars and cheats abound in company boardrooms …
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/24/rockpool-accused-of-tampering-with-time-sheet-records-to-workers-of-10m
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“…………but it is generally acknowledged that the major single factor effecting productivity is capital investment.”
Absolutely !
And your proof is?
Underpaying staff and treating them like shit doesn’t affect productivity?
Your Elysium will come crashing down one day …
Then IR reform
Meaning?
The university grade knuckleheads of both teams are still waffling `productivity`. Really? You`re all daft tuncs.
Hint-1 For years now, international (singapor?) biz advisors have rated muppet island as risky for biz to setup `new-age` manufacturing and other concerns that require substantial electricity use unless they byo own powerPlant ; due to expensive, politicised grid power. (dw? france24? about two years ago, or more) Check wot Amazon did.
Hint-2 Same rating for a biz that requires more than an obsolete wireCo system.
Hint-3 Last month (bbc?aje?) London advisors warning of muppet island shoddy tower property, stay away. Also included warning to insurance and associated sectors.
Hint-4 Smashing manufacturing also smashed productivity knuckleheads, along with most innovation and efficiency national metrics. The visa-slaves and offshoring cannot improve any of these.
The Union didn’t discover this an employee did…………
jeebus wept