The right to Protest and Boycott are basic tenets of our democracy

morrison-turns-a-bit-sinister-a-little-bit-threatening?

Wow, who’d have thought that the guy who started the brutalisation of dark skinned people on a foreign soil under our watch would turn out like that.

fucken dumbass media who bootstrapped his dorky daddy routine whilst bagging Shorten all along.

The police has always had a target demographic for recruitment-
* IQ of 80 or less
* Bully
* Declined for recruitment by the army
* Social misfit
* Ability to treat every member of the public as a likely criminal

Post recruitment, police are trained to-
* Become fat, surly and lazy
* Rort their roster
* Use a baton on members of the public

It has always been the same.
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It makes me want to puke when state politicians chime in with suck up thank you to the police.

Don’t worry, it’s all just “OK” 😉

(Let’s see them explain that one too reb)

The worst airline food…

https://www.traveller.com.au/worst-airline-food-ryanair-tops-list-of-worst-inflight-meals-h1ja3t

Should people’s employment be at risk because they post their personal opinions?

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-02/hong-kong-cathay-pacific-staff-speak-out/11657254

Yes, but the worst airline meal(s) I’ve ever experiences was many, many years ago.

I was returning to Australia and particularly short of money, so I booked a leg on Biman Airways – the national carrier of Bangladesh !

It stopped everywhere, and each time it took off, there was a plate of brown stuff placed in front of me, apparently to eat!

And what were the other passengers carrying in those hessian bags they used as carry on luggage? Was that a chicken squawking? And a small pig?

Security has tightened up a little since then!

**Now off to the races to look at some sloshed and drenched young people

Morrison should take his climate policies to an election and let the voters decide whose they prefer.

He did. But he did lie 😉

Also, people voted not to have a death tax.

Basically, people got lied to which ever way you look at it.

By the way, secondary boycotts are already illegal in Australia.

Only for Unions. Like a lot of things.

Unions are also banned from checking employees pays. Howard did that. Guess when mass underpayments began???

The police have always had dumb, fat, redneck bullies as their target recruitment pool.

It’s annoying to constantly see Daniel Andrews constantly congratulate them

The police have always had dumb, fat, redneck bullies as their target recruitment pool.

Yea, but now they also have Nazis.

That’s truly troubling

point is to any evidence that they are actual Nazis.

Probably not ‘actual Nazis’ tosy, but they tick all the boxes. Definitely of the ‘neo’ brand

I’ll just highlight the evidence again, you might have to follow the trail 😉

“Their first reaction was to lie for him”

Start there, follow through 😉

Yea, and everything is just OK

TomR

I think you will find it was photoshopped

OK I did not know. I just thought it could be photoshopped. I doubt Jenny Morrison is a white supremacist. But these days you cannot trust any photo as it is easy to manipulate them. So are you saying it was deliberate?

Shows you demented lefties are. Most normal people would have not even noticed it

Well it looks like it was true all the time. Labors NBN started on a napkin

https://www.itnews.com.au/news/nbn-napkin-lists-on-ebay-for-5000-402273

Exclusive: Rudd’s former pilot lets go of long-held treasure.

The pilot of former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd’s ministerial jet has confirmed the existence of a long-rumoured napkin used to sketch out the first iteration of the national broadband network, today listing the used serviette for sale.
Rumours have long circulated that the first version of the $37.4 billion national broadband network was laid out by former Communications Minister Stephen Conroy to Rudd on the back of a table napkin during a prime ministerial flight in 2009.
Evidence for the tale has, until now, been thin on the ground.
But a new listing on global ecommerce site eBay – made without fanfare – reveals for the first time that the rumours were, in fact, true.

Well it was published on April 1. This apparently is labors first draft of their NBN dreamt up in 2009

https://i.nextmedia.com.au/Utils/ImageResizer.ashx?n=http%3a%2f%2fi.nextmedia.com.au%2fNews%2fnbn+napkin.JPG&w=480&c=0&s=1

That could be one of those meme thingys

perhaps it’s been photoshopped?

🙂

Thanks Tony, don’t give up (cos it worked the first time 😉 )

Pretty sure that ones photoshopped though. I found the original 😉

👌

Unemployment at 5.3% is better than any time from under hawke/keating and for most of the time under Howard.

But we should have running surplus budgets years ago to save us from what is coming but Australia did not want to do that

How good is the melbone cup

Think how much worst things would have been under Labor 😯

Is our grubmint stupid, or evil?

(my Belief is, they aint stoopid)

Medical specialists and aged-care researchers say outsourcing critical assessment teams would further strain an already “dysfunctional” aged-care system.

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2019/11/02/outsourcing-hit-dysfunctional-aged-care-system/15726132009026

Prime Minister Scott Morrison was responsible for cutting $1.2 billion from the sector in his first Budget as Treasurer. The $1.2 billion cut followed his $500 million cut from aged care in the 2015 MYEFO.

Even if true so what? Govt debt was MINUS 3% of GDP in 2007 ie less than zero, 13% by 2013 and 19% now. Without govt spending cuts govt debt will increase forever. Someone will always squeal when a govt program is cut. We all know the ALP does not care about govt debt. But for people who care about govt debt where do we make the govt spending cuts?

“The crimes of ritual sexual abuse happened in schools, churches, youth groups, scout troops, orphanages, foster homes, sporting clubs, group homes, charities, and in family homes as well.”
..
@BurnedSpy34 — claimed to have influenced the prime minister to make a reference to “ritual” abuse.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/10/31/scott-morrison-qanon/

Out from behind the paywall for a week(?)

Fun times, when a conspiracy theorist becomes the center of a “conspiracy theory” (except with facts)

“Great moment,” tweeted Stewart’s son, Jesse, as @jesse_onya_m8. “You know #theGreatAwakening is in full swing when the Australian Prime Minister @ScottMorrisonMP mentions #RitualAbuse.”

We are so down the rabbit hole, Alice got off for tea long ago

How about getting someone to advise-

* What is the percentage of exports coal makes up?
*What would the current account look like without coal?
*What would the exchange rate be without this export?
*What would be the economic impact of this?

What would be the economic impact of this?

Didn’t they pretend to do that about telling the automotive industry to Fuck Off?

That’s panned out Brilliantly, hasn’t it 😉

What I mean is, they obviously lied about the automotive Industry, I wouldn’t believe a thing they said 😉

https://theconversation.com/factcheck-do-other-countries-subsidise-their-car-industry-more-than-we-do-16308

I don’t think labour rates are a huge factor. More important is the lack of predictibility around union claims and action during plant upgrade, overhaul and shutdown maintenance.

Because of the industrial exposure during these times upgrades, investment and overhaul was kept to a minimum. Ultimately this means there’s no investment and plant performance falls. Closure inevitably follows.

A few years ago, i did some work with some people that were looking at places to invest in a processing plant. It was a long term investment.

They weren’t so bothered about labour rates or unions, but they were very concerned about the multitude of unions that claimed coverage and the reputation here of union disputes during shutdowns

They eventually decided they had better places to invest their billion

LOL from above

“….the report says, “coal mining employs only 0.4 percent of workers in Australia and is 2.2 percent of Australia’s G.D.P.”..”Of the roughly 238,000 jobs that mining provides in Australia, only around 50,000 are tied to coal, according to government figures…..“The government relies on ignorance,” Professor Eckersley said. “It’s a very toxic politics.”

Now that’s very funny

Queensland Budget Forecast 2019-2020 Forecast…….

Coal Royalties $ 4,339 million (Yes that’s $4.339 Billion)
Petroleum Royalties $ 577 million

Predicted Queensland Budget Surplus 2019-2020 $189 million

Yeah………it’s such an unimportant industry

Click to access 4.%20Revenue.pdf

Look at a graph of domestic market share and sales, no one wanted Camrys, Falcons and Commodores.

Exactly, auto industry died because for whatever reason people stopped buying aussie made cars. Also it shows the way we gave subsidies does not work. They got all the money they asked for and all they did was make cars nobody wanted to buy.

Perhaps subsidies should have been tied to performance. If locally made product increases in market share you get a little more money or something like that.

LOL it’s so simple really

I think you are referring to the media narrative.

Those facts wouldn’t suit the ScoMo=Bad narrative, ToM.

Of course, it’s a Labors fault (you know, the ones who have been in opposition for the past 6 or so years), or is it just all Shortens fault?

https://www.michaelwest.com.au/housing-crisis-confirms-australias-economy-tanking-alone-in-the-developed-world/

I think those findings suggest that the ALP (in developing its campaign strategy) spent too much time listening to people like Tom R and TB.

It might have had a better chance of it listened to people like me.

Great news for the LNP

Bill Shorten is planning a comeback…………………

“Were the universe to grant reruns, I would campaign with fewer messages, more greatly emphasise the job opportunities in renewable energies and take a different position on franking credits,”

“I’m personally committed to continue contributing in public life, serving my constituents, the people of Australia — including people with disabilities and the vulnerable — for the next 20 years.”

The Brompton report commissioned by Michael O’Connor, now CFMEU national secretary, following Labor’s 2004 loss under Mark Latham.

“There was a time when our unambiguous defence of workers’ jobs and their livelihoods was seen as progressive, admired and respected, ………….”

“What has changed over this period is the people running the Labor Party machine — the apparatchiks, advisers and politicians — are no longer attuned to the basic aspirations of honest working men and women but sing to a completely misguided (and electorally wrong) tune that seeks to appease the unappeasable………………..”

“They place their faith … in the shallow and cheap propaganda of a wealthy, inner-city elite which has a barely concealed contempt for a bunch of workers from the bush or outer suburbs…………………”

“Until such time as the Labor Party machine realises that they have a fundamental disconnection with large sections of mainstream Australia, they will continue to face electoral isolation. If they do not address this problem, Labor could face a period of opposition equivalent to the lost years of the 1950s and 60s…………….”

(Mission accomplished: not even a SC from the AEC can detect anything intrinsically wrong, for Australian democracy, in parsing-off.)

I didn’t see a finding that was “blame the media”

(btw, I “assured” you it was mostly palmers fault (you know, facts n all 😉 ))

:Finding 50: The magnitude of Clive Palmer’s expenditure crowded out Labor’s advertising
in broadcast, print and digital media.
: While many media outlets were hostile to
Labor’s attempts to talk about the Government
:Did Labor lose because of powerful vested interests in Clive Palmer? The entry of Palmer
as a high-wealth individual willing to outspend the entire Labor Party was a new factor in
2019. However, whether in 2022 it is Palmer, another conservative high-wealth individual or
conservative media outlet hostile to Labor, Labor’s task is to win the next election in spite
of wealthy opponents, rather than taking the easy path of blaming them for a further loss.
We do, however, recommend Labor pursue measures to prevent high-wealth individuals
essentially buying elections, as this represents a threat to our democracy.
:What role did Clive Palmer play?
Following a preference deal with the Coalition, Clive Palmer dovetailed his $70 million
advertising spend with the Liberal Party’s in the final two weeks of the campaign, moving
his attack to Bill Shorten as “Shifty Shorten” and, in Western Australia, to a bizarre claim
the McGowan Government sold an airport to China for $1.00.
Palmer’s advertising blitz strongly amplified the Coalition’s anti-Labor message to
economically insecure, low-income voters. In focus groups of soft voters, Palmer was
described in the most derogatory terms, helping explain the poor vote he and his party
received, but his blitz against Shorten took its toll on Shorten’s leadership standing.
Finding 40: The large size and targeted nature of Clive Palmer’s campaign
had a significant negative effect on Bill Shorten’s popularity and on Labor’s
primary vote.
The emergence on the Australian political scene of high-wealth individuals who deploy
substantial financial resources to influence the outcome of elections must be resisted.
Money can distort democracy. A policy response from Labor should be pursued despite the
difficulty of success in this Parliament.
As occurred in the 2016 US election, social media platforms were used in the 2019
Australian federal election to carry messages that were entirely untrue, best exemplified
by references to a death tax and Palmer’s claim the McGowan Government sold an airport
to China for $1.00. Unchecked, this practice is likely to feature more prominently in future
federal elections.
We recommend spending caps and truth in political advertising legislation based on the
South Australian model be investigated and pursued in the Australian Parliament. Reforms
to electoral laws are further discussed in Chapter 10.
(there’s another 4 or 5 pages dedicated to this fyi 😉 )

But the ABC tends to lean left

yer on drugs dude

Have you seen probyn or fran kelly, just to start. And uhlmann was there for a long time. I’ve stopped watching, so not sure what other sycophants they have, these are just the ones I know off the top of my head

Of course, let’s not forget the libs proven political interference

is right-leaning?

I’m pretty sure I didn’t say that. But definitely right loving 😉

fran kelly is a lib lover for years, try and listen to the morning news, where she massages lib ministers, and treats Labor as if they were the grubmint, probyn repeats government lines like they are gospel (yea, who’d have thought right wingers would complain for people saying the bleeding obvious) and uhlman was the lead for their premier news segment for years, Tom of Memoryhole

I think you’re joking because the ABC leans left.
Much the same way public servants do.

People that are attached to the public teat prefer political parties that are less austere with public finances.

People that are attached to the public teat

yea, like that little shack on Kangaroo Island 😉

So on the 50th anniversary of that grand slam year it would ordinarily be fitting to honour Margaret Court. Sadly for her, there are questions. Indeed, I can’t help feeling that if her past comments about our LGBT brothers and sisters were a little kinder, things might be very different for her now.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/how-tragic-that-margaret-court-s-dogged-tenacity-is-now-her-undoing-20191107-p538dn.html

@-Let the hypocrisy Flow! .. Let the bleating Begin!

So blib stooten “It is my intention to try and be in public life for the next 20 years” will be haunting the teams run for the next 20-years. Still not fcuking learning. Even pauline gets it.

l quite enjoy watching the fools derail their own gravy train on behalf of their imaginary friend.

There is a lot of tuncs on telly from bananaland, jonesland and california bitching about global cooling for the last couple of weeks.

Too Late tuncs! .. That`s the three word slogan that has replaced all those other three word slogans you decided to follow.

BAN PROTESTS!

I’m hoping that Indue card is photoshopped reb

Maybe check with tosy and nil, they seem to be the experts 😉

So half a dozen interrupted words from Fran Kelly is your evidence?? Hilarious!

Have you ever listened to her interview the Greens? Soft and I think they write the script in advance.

but the childish turn of phrase you tend to use …

Apparently there are no mirrors in the TB household

Thoughts and Prayers (but fuck all else)

So half a dozen interrupted words from Fran Kelly is your evidence?

I doubt Fran votes for the Coalition. She would vote for the Greens. But I am not sure the ALP and Greens really like each other. What binds them together is their mutual enemy, the Coalition. Fran is an anti-labor Green rather than a anti-Labor Coalition supporter

As you know tinfoil`osy; “its all about choice”. Just like gold-plated cockpits could have prevented sep11. Many of jonesland and boltsland bonfires could have been prevented, and that`s before the global cooling ramped up.

his concern we’re unprepared for this “uncharted territory” of extreme weather – ignored.

I’m not sure how to highlight it more?

wow, murdor found an angry old man from the bush blaming greenies for …………banning burnoffs?

Welcome to #auspol 2019

Except, wouldn’t it be better to present actual cases of this happening, instead of simply ‘fanning the flames’?

if 20 years ago Australia had reduced carbon emissions to zero, would we have avoided these bushfires?

You mean these ones now?

Sorry, just trying to gauge where the stoopid stops, and moron begins

The stupidity is trying to link a specific, current bushfire with a specific policy of the federal government.

And just calling it stupidity is probably kind

The stupidity is trying to link a specific, current bushfire with a specific policy of the federal government.

The stupidity is ignoring that they are not linking it to a specific fire, but that fires specific intensity

The stupidity is thinking this grubmint has a policy. It’s related to decades of the libs doing all they can to stop any action, and succeeding.

Hence, we have these ‘unprecedented’ events.

And of course, it’s a world wide effort, that the entire world is failing at. But, that doesn’t remove our leading role in … going backwards

Shit, even bolt gave up these stupid arguments a decade ago … didn’t he?

In what way are we worse than China?

lol, the fact that we are at the point of ‘are we worst’ should be enough for you.

At least they don’t pretend to be a free democracy. Yet here, the country who wants to protect pedophile organisations under the banner of ‘free speech’, won’t allow signs pleading for climate action.

Hence, we have these ‘unprecedented’ events.

I’ll be sure to let my friends in California know, because I think they probably blame Trump for their fires

Yeah, because bushfires care about the per capita emissions

If anyone tells you, “This is part of a normal cycle” or “We’ve had fires like this before”, smile politely and walk away, because they don’t know what they’re talking about.
….
Warmer, drier conditions with higher fire danger are preventing agencies from conducting as much hazard reduction burning – it is often either too wet, or too dry and windy to burn safely. Blaming “greenies” for stopping these important measures is a familiar, populist, but basically untrue claim.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/this-is-not-normal-what-s-different-about-the-nsw-mega-fires-20191110-p5395e.html

Ignorance cannot be the excuse, so what is it (I’m sticking with Stoopid for now)

Oh the irony

you spelted stoopid rong reb

I’m not sure. It’s likely that posting nonsensical comments that link federal government policy (or lack of it) to the bushfires meets the definition of “trolling”

it looks to me that fires hundreds of miles away are out of control …

Is that because Morrison didn’t have a meeting with some retired firemen?

Or because Abbott got rid of the carbon price?

Or perhaps firefighting has moved from a state to a federal responsibility?

Are you trying to say that not meeting constituents who are concerned with the lack of a policy to deal with enhanced fire conditions is ….. a policy?

Or are you saying jughjugf hgtyhgf gddfggyyg hfdd?

So, now with the benefit of hindsight, what would have been different if Morrison had met with the retired firemen 6 months ago?

what would have been different if Morrison had met with the retired firemen 6 months ago?

perhaps they wouldn’t have allowed the nsw libs to take millions away from firefighters

Perhaps they could have invested some money into buying the planes that we no longer can get from America, because their issues reflect ours.

Perhaps he coulda started praying fucken earlier!

(I was under the impression….

Dear Michael. It is possible to do more than one thing at once.

Perhaps multitasking has never been a particular strength of the deputy prime minister’s, and that’s fine, because juggling is certainly not for everyone, but I’ll venture it is possible for emergency services to extinguish fires and for politicians and various experts to speak informatively about the underlying causes of fires so catastrophic that they have been designated a state of emergency in the middle of November, not in mid-to-late summer.

I reckon those things can happen simultaneously – both the analysing and the doing – without anything terrible happening or without anything fundamental being compromised.

I think we are that clever. Truly, I do.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/11/dear-michael-mccormack-the-only-raving-lunatics-are-those-not-worrying-about-climate-change )

“perhaps they wouldn’t have allowed the nsw libs to take millions away from firefighters

Perhaps they could have invested some money into buying the planes that we no longer can get from America, because their issues reflect ours.” – TomR

Perhaps perhaps you should do some research…………

https://www.nsw.gov.au/news-and-events/news/aircraft-boosts-bush-firefighting-capability/

“It is the first time NSW will have a Large Air Tanker ready to respond to bushfires at any time and across the State. In previous years, this type of aircraft has been contracted from the United States during the warmer months.

It is named Marie Bashir in honour of The Honourable Dame Marie Bashir AD CVO, the former and second longest serving Governor of NSW and the first female Governor of the State.

The fully operational $26.3 million aircraft has a cruising speed of 850km an hour, drops 15,000 litres of fire suppressant and can transport firefighters.”

Perhaps perhaps you should do some research…………

And they didn’t rip millions from the budget?

ffs tosy, you gonna start quoting Dorothea Mackellar next

What part of “Unprecendented’ do you not understand?

There have been numerous articles linked to explaining why they are unprecedented.

A frigging RAINFOREST burnt down

I’ve quoted four precedents.

I’m sorry, but none of them were this early, extensive, or extreme.

THAT’S the unprecedented part you fail to acknowledge

(Not my problem if you want to regurgitate green-left talking points?)

wow ivi, took me a while, but I just got your grunt reference

tosyhunt lol

“And they didn’t rip millions from the budget?”

The $12.9m was capital expenditure for their brand new HQ. So not recurrent anyway unless you want them to build another HQ.

Oh sorry I think I misread your initial comments. You must have meant this state government……..

“QUEENSLAND’S Rural Fire Service has had its budget slashed by almost 25 per cent as the state moves into what is expected to be a catastrophic fire season.

The state government has pulled almost $13 million from the volunteer service with just over $40 million allocated to the group in the 2019/20 financial year.”

Like I said………..do some research

https://www.queenslandcountrylife.com.au/story/6452760/sparks-fly-after-budget-cuts/?cs=4733

(Yes; I’m almost sure that freemarketeering reinsurers increasingly will be convinced by Malcolm Robert’s #homeschooled logics; I know I am; and I can barely understand how a basic wood-drying kiln turned up to 11, or 451oF, might function.)

Seems the empathy consultants were a further waste of taxpayers money

(Seems the empathy consultants were a further waste of taxpayers money

I quite enjoyed Teh Boris’s grinning like a Cheshire Cat while waving a mop around, too; but not quite as much as Teh Ronald’s tossing paper-towels around like confetti in a hurricane; someone should develop an obvious(ly-charming)-sociopath-at(-glib-and-superficial)-work scale, maybe?)

“….to my knowledge The Greens are not in power in any state or territory …”

Local Councils are also responsible.

Yes I’m looking at you Byron Bay and Blue Mountains

Remember how the Liberals “didn’t politicise” Pink Batts? Or the GFC? Or the 1,200 souls who died at sea fleeing violence and death?

Regarding the deaths at sea. Howard had stopped the boats so problem solved. Then Rudd dropped our borders and the boats started again. In fact Labor/Greens say we should let boat people in. Labor restarted a problem Howard had solved. Labor encourages people to come by boat

Well it is good to see that TomR and TB have a place of pilgrimage in San Francisco for their climate cult.

Of course they will need to catch a fossil fuel belching aircraft to get there.

Climate Change creates arsonists too

The Oztralien

“A nine-year-old boy has been caught red-handed with a blowtorch after he deliberately lit a grass fire in Worrigee, south of Wollongong.

The boy admitted to lighting the fire and police were able to quickly extinguish the small blaze. He was issued with a warning under the Young Offenders Act.

The boy is one of four people who have been caught breaching the total fire bans in place across NSW.

A 27-year-old man was caught allegedly setting a small campfire to boil water for a cup of tea at Fowler Reserve, Wallacia. Police immediately extinguished the flames and issued the man with an on-the-spot fine of $2200.

In Prestons, south-west of Sydney, police attended to reports of a 35-year old man allegedly burning fence palings in a cylindrical barbeque at about 7pm on Monday. A secondary fire started after embers ignited a pile of palings, and both fires were extinguished by emergency services.

Because global warming didn’t exist 4 years ago

Well here is another opinion

https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/rural-firefighters-heartbreaking-plea/news-story/602b8b84c7092a232fd6fdceecb37f86?fbclid=IwAR00upXFSNGPvG2WxDnJvuppO7XlLfMo5-YkkkqhSbg9ipaoIsD_ktehI6s

The “authority figures that have stood for environmental protection” over the past five years are “directly responsible for this devastation”, Smith wrote.
“The fuel loading we are seeing out on the ground is ridiculous. We are looking at 5-10 years of growth, this fuel source is making these fires untouchable, we can’t even get near them to fight them…..Smith said the environmental authorities who have a put a stop to reduction burns — which include controlled burning, mechanical clearing like slashing undergrowth, or even reducing the ground fuel by hand — “need to be held personally accountable for the losses people have endured. People have lost their lives as a direct result of the decisions made by the environmental authorities!”
The firey ended the post, asking, “Tell me why these enviros shouldn’t be stood up in front of a judge and charged with manslaughter? Enough is enough!”

“Because global warming didn’t exist 4 years ago”

Global warming existed 2,000 years ago just like all the other great global religions/cults

Just exactly how many wireCo nodes were incinerated this week!

Bit early to be playing politics isn’t it? But I have relatives up Taree way and they tell me they have had power failures due to the fires. And guess what? Labors NBN does not work during a power failure meaning the landline also does not work during a power failure. That was part of Labors NBN from the beginning.

Most probably not a big problem as most people have mobile phones these days but who knows?

And guess what? .. the landline also does not work during a power failure. That was part .. of the zombie idiocy of chopping-up and sticky-taping; the old telecom telegraph wires; adsl; legacy rupert cable; optsus cable; and whatever other junk the zombies spent taxpayers treasury on; to fool 2gb`rs with big-connection numbers. There is good news tho. Next year, once wireCo cuts the old telecom telegraph wires to the bagz household, the bagz household won`t be keeping their 60-plus year landline. (also won`t be paying dial-up) Another Own-Goal. And as always, own goals are always Spectacular! Now Here is the Best bit kneel. l will then be Only using taxpayer funded internet access! (provided wireCo is actually working)

“And that’s the point. They are always unsuitable”

Someones finally getting it. The window available to cardigan clad public servants to safely conduct burnoffs is narrowing, which has been documented extensively in this thread. It’s not greenies, it’s the environment as it exists today.

Not sure what’s changed though? 😯

Local Connections “not working during a (Local)power failure was always part of AnyBodys fibre network” .. teamcheerer already dropped links ages ago that showed Labor was NOT going to chop-up other wire systems and sticky-tape other wire systems to the fiber .. if the telecom telegraph wire was NOT chopped-up by the zombies .. the bagz household would keep their telecom telegraph wire landline .. Fiber To-User has no need to chop and sticky-tape, imbecile.

so the landline does not work during a power failure.

NO modern landline works in a power failure you idiot.

And stop quoting one random cuntry bumkin who knows nothing about land clearing or the cuts to the public servants used to do it. It’s simply embarrassing

“NO modern landline works in a power failure you idiot””

https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/home-phone/phone-line/can-i-use-my-home-phone-on-the-nbn-during-a-power-outage

“If you have nbn Fixed Wireless and you keep your home phone on the copper network, then it will still work in a power failure if your handset does not rely on mains power. For example, cordless phone handsets commonly reply on mains power, and would not work in the event of a power failure.”

if your handset does not rely on mains power.

Try and buy a new handset that doesn’t. It’s not an easy task

Try and buy a new handset that doesn’t. It’s not an easy task

Why is that??

Yeah but that not the case in the past. Furthermore I think you are putting up a smokescreen to cover the fact that Labors NBN does not work during a power failure meaning the landline does not work also

[blink]

yay, you found … 1

“It’s not an easy task” 😉

UNprecedented fires!”

That’s because nothing in your little wikipedia page resembles what we see now.

Just because there were fires (wow, they’ve happened before) doesn’t mean that they are anything like now.

If Australia immediately reduced emissions by 25%, the world would be producing 99.8% as much as it does now. This is unlikely to make any difference to climate change and certainly not to the risk of bushfires.

(Not surprising though.

Indeed.)

I’m not saying do nothing, because I think we should participate more willingly in carbon reduction.

But it is absolute bullshit to suggest that even an immediate Australian 25% reduction will make any difference to the risk to the risk of bushfires. The Greens and others are dishonest in their politicisation of this.

No one has nominated 25% – I’m using that as an example. But the Greens are demanding immediate action in response, and so have some of the retired firemen

Speaking of the NBN, I recently switched from Telstra to TPG for one reason only- cost. Telstra are very good but expensive. The package with TPG is $50/month cheaper. But I am on the NBN12 plan which gives me download speeds of 11.1mbps. And I have FTTP. So what is the point of fibre if my plan only gives me 11.1Mbps?

People are interest in cost not speed when it comes to the NBN.

And by the way, speaking of those using the bushfires for politics & demanding climate change action this was in an email I received yesterday from GetUp … quite disgraceful.

This is what climate change looks like. And while the government tries to silence those demanding action – the bushfire season is starting earlier and getting worse with each passing year.

Scott Morrison and other right wing conservatives are saying this isn’t the time to talk about climate change. But you can’t fight a problem without being honest about the causes.

And the Greens don’t seek to escalate this or make some political milage, do they?

Greens Senator Jordon Steele-John has refused to back away from calling Labor and coalition senators “arsonists” during a fierce spray on climate action.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/greens-senator-brands-major-party-politicians-arsonists-over-climate-policy

(I have no qualms about Pell winning a right to appeal.…..It’s interesting about Pell.

Someone (in)subordinate – possibly a prolix, semi-retired, otherwise-reserved appellate judicial officer – made enough deliberate brainfarts to attract the HCA’s full attention?)

Ok as we approach midnight can I just say….

Fuck you arseholes !!!!!!!!!!

Some thoughts yomm can rail at

Seems that the “Quiet Australians” aren’t so

From that bunch of bleeding lefties at newscorpse their abc

lol, I love watching murdochs winged monkeys winging it

And palmer used this to his advantage.

“Facebook won’t take down fake posts about Sally McManus and Bill Shorten”

What’s so fake about the inheritance tax post ?

We all know that had the ALP won the election they would have needed Green support in the Senate and would have caved in to a new Death Tax to get that support.

Its the modus operandi of the ALP. Deny then do

Or have you forgotten the Carbon Tax or Peter Garrett’s “we’ll change everything once we get elected”

A vote for the ALP would have been a vote for new Death Taxes.

Somebody was prepared to buy them at a price Sweden was prepared to accept.

Which could have been higher or lower. You made the assumption.

Or have you forgotten the Carbon Tax

You mean the one even peta cretin denied was? THAT ONE??

Go on, keep embarrassing yaself

“How do you know this? They dumped them as a stand against something, not to make money”

My God you are cringe worthy embarrassing.

I know TomR is actually the group name for a bunch of Leftists. No one person could be that stupid

They’ve dumped Canada too! What’s that f**king Trudeau Government ever done!

(It’s called a logical inference, something you seem to know nothing about.

You might be right.)

Really? What about this, from the ABC via a link posted here-

His pleas that we act now on climate, his concern we’re unprepared for this “uncharted territory” of extreme weather – ignored.

Yeah, it’s all utter bollocks!

The ABC headline-

Former fire chiefs escalate call for action on climate change

I might get some of those apolitical and constructive Green quotes too

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/worldtoday/former-fire-chiefs-escalate-call-for-action-on-climate-change/11703684

Well, I thought if you post a link containing the comment, it suggested support. Or am I mistaken?

But more importantly, which style is preferred? Single or double vent in a suit? Or (shudder) none?

I’m a double vent man, and I noticed plenty of people wearing none and single at the races. Standards are slipping.

https://www.realmenrealstyle.com/suit-jacket-vents-transcript/

I think Antonio nails it !

Yes, and this is the telling point – Whenever I see a single vent again, it immediately signals to me that I think it’s a little bit lower quality of a jacket

No one will now be able to walk around the city without checking out whether men are wearing the low quality single vent suit!

No thank you TB, but it’s great to see that you’ve progressed beyond the velcro straps

Controversial union boss John Setka has told federal opposition leader Anthony Albanese to “grow some balls”, amid the latter’s no-show at Victoria’s Labor Party conference.

That doesn’t seem very nice.

https://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/setka-tells-albo-to-grow-some-balls/news-story/6b50ec7a884e982bce6d2342ad302a9f

Lol tosy

And the climates always changed too

Now you’ve shown you know more than 98% of the worlds scientists AND the firefighters, who’ll be next?

Engineers? Historians?

Lefties? 🙂

I’m just repeating what the experts in the fire services are telling us tosy, and they are getting their info from the front line, not cherry picked “start dates” from Wikipedia (which you ignore RAINFORESTS that have already been on fire, and intensity etc

But hey, you’n’wiki know best 😉

As I said yomm, the experts tell us we have not seen fires of this intensity and magnitude this early in the season. We may have seen large fires this early before, but not of the same intensity (or other factors that the experts see)

(Should I mention RAINFORESTS again?)

Yomm jumps in to remind us that he is obviously far better qualified as retired workplace safety hazard to gauge a fires charactersics from it’s Wikipedia description than a group of prominent fire chiefs with decades of experience at the front line.

What would they know that a guy in an armchair couldn’t Google

“Tom R is a fire denier”

Just like all those Fire Chiefs, right 😉

https://theguttertrash.com/2019/11/01/the-right-to-protest-and-boycott-are-basic-tenets-of-our-democracy/#comment-164499

wasn’t really, it’s called a memory 😉

member of Emergency Leaders for Climate Action.

You remember them, the group of Fire Chiefs who wanted a talk with the pm 😯

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-15/scott-morrison-should-listen-to-fire-chiefs-on-climate-change/11707096

“Fire Chiefs” is plural. Who else you got?

😯

I’m typing this slowly, so I hope you read it in the same manner 😉

When five former fire chiefs held a news conference on Thursday

Which means its NOT UNPRECEDENTED at all

But plural chief of fires said so (through one)

But I guess tosy wants to hear each and every one of them say it, instead of using a …. spokesman for the group

ffs

De Nile is not a fucken river, it’s just old fools with a dial up connection

Did he prove them wrong with a wiki link, or with science?

Do you scuba dive too?

Greg Mullins says- I’m sure it will then start to take decisive action to tackle the base cause – greenhouse emissions – then use the high moral ground to lean on other countries to also do the right thing.

Does he seriously think China and the USA are likely to respond to Australia’s “moral high ground” and then “do the right thing” ?

I mean China doesn’t even “do the right thing” when an international court finds against them.

And I’m sure someone will be happy to point to a few examples of the USA neglecting to “do the right thing”

Is Mullins a well meaning dolt or is he being a dishonest zealot? It’s difficult to tell.

Well, Mr Mullins says that’s the answer. I wonder whether it has ever been tried before.

Perhaps he’s been very good at firefighting but does this qualify him for making recommendations to government about international geopolitical issues.

I think it probably does!!

Just to recap

Unprecedented dryness; reductions in long-term rainfall; low humidity; high temperatures; wind velocities; fire danger indices; fire spread and ferocity; instances of pyro-convective fires (fire storms – making their own weather); early starts and late finishes to bushfire seasons. An established long-term trend driven by a warming, drying climate. The numbers don’t lie, and the science is clear.

If anyone tells you, “This is part of a normal cycle” or “We’ve had fires like this before”, smile politely and walk away, because they don’t know what they’re talking about.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/this-is-not-normal-what-s-different-about-the-nsw-mega-fires-20191110-p5395e.html

I’m walking away, cos there’s only so much time to be spent talking to a brick wall

https://www.science.org.au/curious/bushfires

SOURCE OF IGNITION
Lightning strikes can provide the initial spark that sets off a bushfire, and cause around half of Australia’s bushfires. Other causes can be faulty electrical wires, a cigarette carelessly tossed out of a car window, a hazard reduction burn gone wrong, arson, or accidental igniton.

Only 50% of all fires are caused by lightning. 94% are caused by human activities which do not include burning coal for electricity.

“There are, on average, 62,000 fires in Australia every year. Only a very small number strike far from populated areas and satellite studies tell us that lightning is responsible for only 13 per cent. Not so the current fires threatening to engulf Queensland and NSW. There were no lightning strikes on most of the days when the fires first started in September. Although there have been since, these fires – joining up to create a new form of mega-fire – are almost all man-made.”

https://www.smh.com.au/national/arson-mischief-and-recklessness-87-per-cent-of-fires-are-man-made-20191117-p53bcl.html

I blame the fire chieves

lol

Ask Chieves 🙂

If only Morrison had met with the retired firemen, he would understand that-
1. We could persuade China, USA etc to reduce their emissions via “the moral high ground” (and what possible reply would that have based on that!!)
2. We need more firefighting resources, and there has never previously been a fireman that has said that!!

Surveys show-
* Retired police don’t think the government spends enough on the police
* Retired public servants don’t think the government spends enough on the public service
* Retired nurses don’t think the government spends enough on nursing and patient care
* Retired teachers don’t think the government spends enough on teaching

So it’s particularly surprising that retired firemen want more money spent on firefighting

it’s all very ‘sophisticated’

‘cept for the sophiticats who knows bester than the rester (especially those with decades of experience, which is trumped by a 5 minute wiki ramble (until it’s updated)

BUT

Surveys show-
* Retired workplace safety hazard don’t think …… they just remain hazards

And bernies cutting his ….. winnings and retiring too.

Good Fucken Riddance!