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Conservative MP George Christensen “a regular” at Manila strip club.

December 3, 2019

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He’s known by his own colleagues as the “Member for Manila” after spending almost 300 days in the Philippines on 28 separate trips all funded by the taxpayer ostensibly to further the interests of his constituents in the Queensland electorate of Dawson.

All up, the far right MP, outspoken opponent of abortion and gay rights, spent just under 300 days in the impoverished south-east Asian country between 2014 -2018.

During his frequent trips, Christensen was collecting approximately $550 each day from the Australian as the “member for Manila”.

In total, Christensen collected a hefty salary of about $163,500 over the almost 300 days he spent in the Philippines “representing his constituents.”

But that’s not all, this keen upholder of conservative Christian values has been exposed as a frequent customer at the Ponytails nightclub – a strip club in the red light district of Angeles city outside Manila.

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Ponytails nightclub in Angeles City

Ponytails bartender Marjorie Lamsen told the organisations Mr Christensen was a “very regular visitor” to the venue.

“He was always very good … he was a big spender,” she said.

Mr Christensen, a committed Christian, says he met his now-wife April Asuncion while in the Philippines in 2017.Mr Christensen’s wife is said to be a former employee of Ponytails nightclub.

The MP has previously told media the reason he has spent so much time in the Philippines in recent years was simply to engage in “charity work.”

377 Comments leave one →
  1. December 3, 2019 12:46 pm

    I guess he really is “the member” for Manila… 🙂 🙂

  2. Tom R permalink
    December 3, 2019 1:13 pm

    Well, he’s a member, at the very least.

  3. December 3, 2019 2:08 pm

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  4. Tom R permalink
    December 3, 2019 2:14 pm

    Labor did something with Pensions years ago, so this is ALL on them, even fatty fucking foreigners

  5. Tony permalink
    December 3, 2019 3:02 pm

    Just to clarify, has Christensen done something illegal? Asking for a friend.

  6. Tom R permalink
    December 3, 2019 3:07 pm

    , has Christensen done something illegal?

    Probably have to ask all the young girls he’s been fondling over there on the taxpayers dime

  7. Tony permalink
    December 3, 2019 3:17 pm

    “ Probably have to ask all the young girls he’s been fondling over there on the taxpayers dime”

    That sounds quite serious. You got a link for that?

  8. Tom R permalink
    December 3, 2019 3:36 pm

    True

    Perhaps he was just there to read the articles?

  9. Walrus permalink
    December 3, 2019 3:36 pm

    After experiencing many Asian cities myself I’m actually not sure I have been into a single bar that didn’t have dancing girls of some sort or another with the exception of resort or hotel bars. Be it BKK, KL, or Hoi Chi Min

  10. Walrus permalink
    December 3, 2019 3:38 pm

    I’ll take the gal 3rd from the right by the way

  11. Tony permalink
    December 3, 2019 3:44 pm

    Perhaps he was just there to read the articles?

    No, you alleged something serious. You don’t get to change the subject that easily. You said: “ Probably have to ask all the young girls he’s been fondling over there on the taxpayers dime”

    If you got that from somewhere just supply a link. If you’re just smearing a political enemy, admit it.

    Either way, be honest and own your behaviour.

  12. Tom R permalink
    December 3, 2019 3:53 pm

    Either way, be honest and own your behaviour.

    I confess

    I’m just smearing a guy who has spent most of his time hanging out in sleazy bars on the taxpayers dime.

    If that’s possible (to smear him, that is)

  13. Walrus permalink
    December 3, 2019 3:55 pm

    “I’m just smearing a guy who has spent most of his time hanging out in sleazy bars……….”

    And what’s wrong with that ?

  14. Tom R permalink
    December 3, 2019 4:02 pm

    And what’s wrong with that ?</I

    The smearing, the hanging out in sleazy bars, or doing it all on the taxpayers dime.

    Yor really gonna need to be a bit more specific around here 😉

  15. Tony permalink
    December 3, 2019 4:03 pm

    I confess

    I’m just smearing a guy who has spent most of his time hanging out in sleazy bars on the taxpayers dime.

    Thank you. So no evidence at all of “all the young girls he’s been fondling”. Because that’s the only part that bothered me. If he’s claimed taxpayer money he wasn’t entitled to he should pay it back immediately and face the consequences. I assume you’ve got a link for that?

  16. Tom R permalink
    December 3, 2019 4:21 pm

    Hey, I’m sure spending taxpayers dollars in sleazy bars thousands of kilometers from his constituents is all above board 😉

  17. Walrus permalink
    December 3, 2019 4:29 pm

    By the way

    Is Craig Thomson’s account of what happened to his credit card (you know it was stolen as he slept on the Central Coast then used at a brothel then returned to him while he slept the same night) starting to sound more credible than a guy

    * with blue blood who says he doesn’t sweat,

    * was eating pizza in Woking when he was supposed to be at a night club

    * cant remember meeting his accuser ,

    * claims the photo of him and his accuser is fake and his arms have been elongated

    * and hung out with a known convicted pedophile at his apartment in New York for 5 days as he needed to end the friendship

  18. Tony permalink
    December 3, 2019 4:32 pm

    “Hey, I’m sure spending taxpayers dollars in sleazy bars thousands of kilometers from his constituents is all above board 😉”

    Why don’t we check it out? Just present your ‘evidence’. I’m quite sure, based on past form, you won’t be wasting my time. Again.

  19. Walrus permalink
    December 3, 2019 5:03 pm

    “Opposition Leader Kevin Rudd has admitted visiting a New York strip club during a drunken night while representing Australia at the United Nations.”

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/rudds-strip-club-visit-20070819-gdqwds.html

  20. Tony permalink
    December 3, 2019 5:16 pm

    I’m not concerned about the strip club. That’s not illegal. It might be immoral, or even a sin. I just don’t know. I’m waiting for our moral and ethical betters to inform me.

    If he’s been “spending taxpayer dollars” I’d like to know about it. Maybe he’s been spending his taxpayer-funded salary – during time-off he’s entitled to.

    TomR is sure to reveal all.

  21. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 3, 2019 5:51 pm

    Mental as Anything were a sensational band, the best pub band in Australia, and Greedy Smith was perfect as the front man.

    I saw the current line up about a year ago, just as much fun as ever.

    Tragic death at 63.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D0KZ-PqkaCX8&ved=2ahUKEwj746Sh8ZjmAhUVVH0KHY23C1YQo7QBMAB6BAgAEAI&usg=AOvVaw2t9SMHkj_DgDpp1I86aZH6

  22. December 3, 2019 5:59 pm

    “Just to clarify, has Christensen done something illegal? Asking for a friend.”

    Fuxache.

    So now the barometer of ministerial accountability hinges on whether an MP’s conduct is criminal or not.

    Seeing’ as you’re so keen to defend him ToSY, perhaps you can share what value you feel was delivered to his constituents as a result of spending 300 days out of a four year period in Manila, unless of course you’re suggesting those 300 days were all annual leave?

  23. December 3, 2019 6:02 pm

    “I’m waiting for our moral and ethical betters to inform me.”

    I’ve arrived.

    I’d suggest it’s the height of hypocrisy to claim that you’re an ardent christian, outspoken opponent of gay marriage and abortion while simultaneously shagging your way around the redlight district of Manila in go-go bars looking for a mail order bride.

    But heck, that’s just me.

  24. Tony permalink
    December 3, 2019 6:03 pm

    63 is far too young.

    Although ‘In an interview recorded on 30 October 2019 (five weeks before Smith’s death) with Alan Gilmour, from the Australian Songwriters Association, to honour him and Martin Plaza as the 2019 Australian Songwriters Hall of Fame Inductees, Smith stated “To have lived this long is a great thing.”’

    (Do you want some tips on posting youtube videos, Tom? I could call Nasking for ya.)

  25. December 3, 2019 6:04 pm

    “After experiencing many Asian cities myself I’m actually not sure I have been into a single bar that didn’t have dancing girls of some sort or another”

    Yeah well, I guess it all depends where you go, dun it.

  26. Tony permalink
    December 3, 2019 6:06 pm

    unless of course you’re suggesting those 300 days were all annual leave?

    I’ve got no idea. Perhaps you could enlighten me.

  27. Tony permalink
    December 3, 2019 6:08 pm

    So now the barometer of ministerial accountability hinges on whether an MP’s conduct is criminal or not.

    Not really. I’ll give you ministerial code of conduct as well. (Is he even a minister?) Does he contravene that?

  28. Tony permalink
    December 3, 2019 6:12 pm

    I’d suggest it’s the height of hypocrisy to claim that you’re an ardent christian, outspoken opponent of gay marriage and abortion while simultaneously shagging your way around the redlight district of Manila in go-go bars looking for a mail order bride.

    Yes, that would be hypocritical, if that’s what he’s done. So he’s committed the crime of hypocrisy. Got it. Or is it the sin? It’s all so confusing when law is not your standard.

  29. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 3, 2019 6:13 pm

    Hypocritical tosser (or not) is the standard I prefer to apply to politicians

    There aren’t many in the “or not” category.

  30. December 3, 2019 6:17 pm

    “It’s all so confusing when law is not your standard.”

    Not really, if the law is your only standard why are you even here?

  31. Tony permalink
    December 3, 2019 6:19 pm

    “Not really, if the law is your only standard why are you even here?”

    Where? On this blog? What is your standard?

  32. Walrus permalink
    December 3, 2019 6:20 pm

    “Mental as Anything were a sensational band, the best pub band in Australia”

    Yep, how many times during the 1980’s did I see them at Selinas Coogee or the Manly Vale Hotel….or the San Miguel Cammeray………..I really couldn’t tell you.

    The era of the Cockroaches (now the Wiggles) , the Hitmen, the Allnighters, Flowers (Icehouse), Midnight Oil .

    I even caught up with INXS a few times at the same venues and most memorably at the Tathra Hotel on 27 December 1982. Ted Mulray Gang appeared the following night. The chicks tended to love TMG not so much moi.

  33. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 3, 2019 7:28 pm

    Yes, the era of Sports, Mondo Rock, Dynamic Hepnotics… it was a lively pub scene

  34. TB Queensland permalink
    December 3, 2019 7:34 pm

    So he’s committed the crime of hypocrisy.

    That’s all you see? He’s supposed to be “working” for his constituents … not slagging off in some foreign country at the expense of Australian taxpayers … if he worked in a “real” job he would have been out on his arse months ago …

  35. December 3, 2019 7:48 pm

    “”if he worked in a “real” job he would have been out on his arse months ago …””

    But, but, but apparently there’s ‘nothing to see here’ as long as he hasn’t been convicted of a crime (apparently), so why can’t we all just STFU and remain ‘quiet Australians’…

  36. TB Queensland permalink
    December 3, 2019 8:08 pm

    …why can’t we all just STFU and remain ‘quiet Australians’…

    ‘Cause stealing is a crime … unless you are an employer or an LNP politician it seems …

    Sam Dastyari fell on his sword (rightly so!) … Taylor should and so should Christensen!

  37. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 3, 2019 9:38 pm

    …or an LNP politician….

    TB nails it.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_politicians_convicted_of_crimes

  38. ivi permalink
    December 3, 2019 10:37 pm

    (It’s all so confusing when law is not your standard.

    Indeed...)

  39. Tony permalink
    December 3, 2019 10:49 pm

    ‘Cause stealing is a crime … unless you are an employer or an LNP politician it seems …

    Oh good. You must have some facts nobody else here has produced. I’ll wait …

  40. Tony permalink
    December 3, 2019 11:05 pm

    But, but, but apparently there’s ‘nothing to see here’ as long as he hasn’t been convicted of a crime (apparently), so why can’t we all just STFU and remain ‘quiet Australians’…

    Yeah, we don’t have guilt by accusation in this country. Not yet, anyway. I’m still not sure what the accusation is, though, apart from transgressing someone’s version of what is ‘right’. Has he even broken the ministerial code of conduct? He’s not a minister, by the way, but he is chief whip of the National party, so let’s assume it applies.

    So what is your standard, if not the law? I’m all anxious to find out.

  41. Tony permalink
    December 3, 2019 11:23 pm

    He’s supposed to be “working” for his constituents … not slagging off in some foreign country at the expense of Australian taxpayers …

    And yet those very (Queensland) constituents just re-elected him with an increased majority. Go figure …

  42. Tony permalink
    December 3, 2019 11:29 pm

    slagging off in some foreign country at the expense of Australian taxpayers

    This bit bothers me, but nobody has explained how he’s misused taxpayer money. I’m ready to criticise him but I need details, people.

  43. Tony permalink
    December 3, 2019 11:42 pm

    slagging off in some foreign country

    I think you mean ‘slacking’.

  44. December 4, 2019 7:24 am

    “I’m ready to criticise him but I need details, people.”

    I don’t care what you need ToSY. You’re just starting to sound like Neil, tbh.

  45. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2019 8:26 am

    as long as he hasn’t been convicted of a crime

    “Australian” crime I think you’ll find is the wording they are using. Which opens the field a bit when you are in another country lol

    I’m ready to criticise him but I need details

    Yea, you aint getting them, he’s clammed up. No details from an ‘open and honest’ grubmint again

    Let’s just say that, as he spent 300 days loitering around girlie bars, while getting paid bonuses for being an mp (something stupid like $300 day), he better produce somehting to show we’re getting value for money. Since he’s clammed up, then, he has nothing to show for his time away.

    That’s stealing!

    And I want to know what articles he was reading there!

    You’re just starting to sound like Neil, tbh

    THAT is a vile slur (although worryingly close to the mark)

    NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!

  46. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2019 8:35 am

  47. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2019 8:36 am

  48. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2019 8:40 am

    Indeed…)

    And Queensland seems to be one huge, open cut cave (that the remainder of the country is swiftly beginning to resemble.

    Here’s how

  49. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 4, 2019 9:09 am

    If only everyone caught a yacht for their business and leisure trips, the world would be so much better.

    No one would go anywhere!

    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-04/greta-arrives-in-portugal/11763386?pfmredir=sm

  50. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2019 9:13 am

    If only everyone caught a yacht for their business and leisure trips

    BOO!

  51. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 4, 2019 9:53 am

    Well, call me old fashioned, but I think Greta is another example of the celebrity cult.

    I tend to have a little more time for people that have achieved something with their lives, like completing an education. You know, something more than being an articulate teenager.

  52. Tony permalink
    December 4, 2019 9:53 am

    Christensen’s lawyer denies allegations and threatens defamation proceedings.

    Daily Mail Australia contacted Mr Christensen’s office for further comment, where a spokeswoman said his lawyer has written the following statement to Nine News, which applies equally to other news outlets publishing or airing the same allegations.

    ‘Your allegation made about my client’s wife is denied and the so-called documentary proof that you refer to, is therefore either false or fabricated.

    Slandering the wife of a sitting member of parliament, who is not in the public eye, is highly defamatory and needless to say the damages would be substantial.

    ‘If you should publish anything that is false about my client or his wife, we are instructed to commence defamation proceedings.’

  53. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 4, 2019 9:55 am

    …an articulate teenager who rebukes adults…

  54. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2019 9:56 am

    Haven’t heard what’s been said about his wife, prefer that they were left out of it, unless they put themselves into the story somehow.

    btw yomm, yor way before old fashioned. I think prehistoric is probably closer 😉

  55. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2019 10:02 am

    Why is it defamatory to say that your wife worked at a bar you frequented while working for tax payers?

    Unless he thinks that there is something wrong with these bars?

    Has anyone mentioned that abbott is visiting convicted pedophiles?

  56. Tony permalink
    December 4, 2019 10:26 am

    Has anyone mentioned that abbott is visiting convicted pedophiles?

    He’s a self-professed Christian, isn’t he? Maybe it’s because of something he read in the Bible.

    https://biblehub.com/matthew/25-36.htm

  57. Tony permalink
    December 4, 2019 10:30 am

    Haven’t heard what’s been said about his wife

    Hilarious!

  58. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2019 10:45 am

    Maybe it’s because of something he read in the Bible.

    Must’ve read it after Bernie Banton passed away

    Hilarious!

    Sorry if I’m not up on all the scuttlebutt about fatty’s scuttling butt

  59. Tony permalink
    December 4, 2019 10:52 am

    Sorry if I’m not up on all the scuttlebutt about fatty’s scuttling butt

    Oh, so you didn’t read the screed at the top of this thread? I call bullshit.

  60. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2019 11:13 am

    Actually, no, I hadn’t read the entirety.

    I’m at work, and the image is ….. not overly appropriate to hang around on my desktop for too long 😉

  61. Walrus permalink
    December 4, 2019 11:21 am

    And in the real world Medivac has finally been repealed…………………….Excellent

  62. Walrus permalink
    December 4, 2019 11:22 am

    And by the way…………get fucked Karen Phelps

  63. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2019 11:28 am

    And in the real world Medivac has finally been repealed

    Yes, and. because we have an ‘honest and open’ grubmint, we don’t know why.

    Just cos …

    I’m guessing lambie has been doing a christian type thing like the protagonist of this thread, and wants it hushed up?

  64. Tony permalink
    December 4, 2019 11:40 am

    Just heard that breathing Sydney air at the moment is like smoking 34 cigarettes a day. ABC this morning said it’s the same as smoking 40.

    Who comes up with this shit?

  65. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 4, 2019 11:56 am

    It’s an interesting dichotomy. I wonder whether calling a female politician “fatty” would be regarded as body shaming.

    Because Christianson is horribly fat! And is entitled to be called “fatty”

  66. Tony permalink
    December 4, 2019 12:00 pm

    Yes, and. because we have an ‘honest and open’ grubmint, we don’t know why.

    I think we know why. We just don’t know what Lambie demanded in exchange for her vote.

  67. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2019 12:03 pm

    lol, the libs have already turned on lamby, calling her a liar ROFL

    This is the grubmint where the pm lied to the parliament almost every day last week 😯

    lie down with dogs ……..

  68. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2019 12:04 pm

    And it appears our grubmint are COMMIES!

  69. Tony permalink
    December 4, 2019 12:06 pm

    Link

  70. December 4, 2019 12:45 pm

    “the libs have already turned on lamby, calling her a liar ROFL”

    Well now that she’s voted, they don’t need her anymore.

    Blind Freddy could see that coming.

  71. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2019 12:50 pm

    Blind Freddy could see that coming.

    Blind Freddy might, but not somebody elected by their peers

    Indeed…) 😦

  72. Tony permalink
    December 4, 2019 2:11 pm

    Sounds reasonable.🙄

    [Ole Wæver] says classifying climate change as a security issue could justify more extreme policy responses.

    “That’s what happens when something becomes a security issue, it gets the urgency, the intensity, the priority, which is helpful sometimes, but it also lets the dark forces loose in the sense that it can justify problematic means,” he says.

    This urgency, he says, could lead to more abrupt action at an international level.

    “If there was something that was decided internationally by some more centralised procedure and every country was told ‘this is your emission target, it’s not negotiable, we can actually take military measures if you don’t fulfil it’, then you would basically have to get that down the throat of your population, whether they like it or not,” he says.

    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-03/climate-change-international-security-risk/11714284?pfmredir=sm

  73. December 4, 2019 2:18 pm

    Today seems to be the day of ‘secret deals’…

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  74. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2019 2:30 pm

    but it also lets the dark forces loose in the sense that it can justify problematic means,

    jacky lamby should take note

  75. Tony permalink
    December 4, 2019 2:34 pm

    Today seems to be the day of ‘secret deals’…

    Whose payout is worth more, Folau’s or Lambie’s?

  76. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2019 2:57 pm

    Whose payout is worth more, Folau’s or Lambie’s?

    Guess we’ll never know

  77. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 4, 2019 3:16 pm

    It seems the amateur status of Rugby Union is now vested with the management.

    They are absolutely hopeless. What a joke

  78. Tony permalink
    December 4, 2019 3:38 pm

    They are absolutely hopeless. What a joke

    Walrus would know more about her, but that Kiwi CEO seems most unimpressive.

  79. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2019 3:52 pm

  80. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 4, 2019 3:55 pm

    The entire ARU management handling of this was hopeless. I have no doubt that their lawyers would have warned of the risks in law. But they took the decision appease their sponsors.

  81. Tony permalink
    December 4, 2019 4:20 pm

    “obtained the false figures”

    Obtained? Or falsified? Isn’t that what the bubble is alleging? Have the police finalised their investigation?

  82. Walrus permalink
    December 4, 2019 4:25 pm

    “……………but that Kiwi CEO seems most unimpressive.”

    She’s an idiot. She left the Canterbury Bulldogs (fairly universally hated in Sydney) in a total mess. She was on the salary cap committee and just handed out back ended payment and short term contracts willy nilly. The players payments balloon in the later years enabling more marque players to be contracted over a short term to win a premiership in year 1 and 2. Well they won nothing. Then she left and now the club is basically paralysed in the player market until 2021.

    Plus she’s a kiwi which automaticaaly makes her a dud plus she has a fucking ridiculous haircut.

    “Between seven and 10 Bulldogs players are on back-ended contracts for next year, while the club is also paying five players, including James Graham and Sam Kasiano, to play for rival clubs. Canterbury’s roster problems have been attributed to the club having worked towards an estimated new salary cap of $10m for this season when the ultimate figure ended up being $9.4m.”

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/castle-denies-being-architect-of-bulldogs-salary-cap-woes-20180525-p4zhk9.html

  83. Tony permalink
    December 4, 2019 4:41 pm

    She left the Canterbury Bulldogs (fairly universally hated in Sydney) in a total mess.

    Now she’s cost the ARU probably several $million and lost the Australian team their best player.

    All because she listened to twitter. Can she be deported?

  84. Tony permalink
    December 4, 2019 4:51 pm

    The settlement might be confidential but they’ll have to allocate that money somewhere in their annual report. I don’t think miscellaneous expenses will wash. Is there an account called Kiwi Stupidity?

  85. Walrus permalink
    December 4, 2019 6:04 pm

    “The climate crisis is not just about the environment.It is a crisis of human rights, of justice and of political will. Colonial, racist and patriarchal systems of oppression have created and fueled it. We need to dismantle them all. Our political leaders can no longer shirk their responsibilities………….”

    More and more the true motivations emerge.

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/34206-greta-thunberg-admits-climate-crisis-is-not-just-about-the-environment

  86. Walrus permalink
    December 4, 2019 6:05 pm

    “I don’t think miscellaneous expenses will wash”

    That’s what I was thinking. It has to be disclosed somewhere . Perhaps a new category in the P&L……………………….”Bible Studies” ?

  87. Tony permalink
    December 4, 2019 6:24 pm

    Perhaps a new category in the P&L……………………….”Bible Studies” ?

    Maybe Alan Joyce will pay the bill. 😛

  88. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 4, 2019 6:59 pm

    I think Raylene Castles will find her next management position much more fitting her capability

    I believe she has been appointed night shift manager at
    Burger King in Penrith

  89. Tony permalink
    December 4, 2019 7:39 pm

    I believe she has been appointed night shift manager at
    Burger King in Penrith

    Sounds like a promotion.

  90. Tony permalink
    December 4, 2019 9:28 pm

    Speaking of Alan Joyce …

  91. Tony permalink
    December 4, 2019 9:49 pm

    She’s clutching her pearls, I mean stethoscope …

  92. Walrus permalink
    December 4, 2019 10:00 pm

    “She’s clutching her pearls, I mean stethoscope …”

    LOL

    What a fucking idiot she is. How many refugee tests do they have to fail before she accepts THEY ARE NOT FUCKING REFUGEES

    I think she’s related to TomR….delusional

  93. Tom R permalink
    December 5, 2019 8:27 am

    Have the police finalised their investigation?

    Yea, the moment morrison called 😉

  94. Tom R permalink
    December 5, 2019 8:58 am

    Looks like taylors going to go out this year with a bang

    I’m just bewildered as to why the need to lie about these things? It’s like he cannot say anything without dropping a lie in there

    Naomi Wolf pursues Angus Taylor for ‘formal’ Hansard correction in Christmas tree row

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/05/naomi-wolf-angus-taylor-formal-correction-christmas-tree-row

  95. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 5, 2019 9:16 am

    Meanwhile, the loudmouth Peter Fitzsimons, says the ARU would not have paid more than $200-$300k to settle with Folau, because they had a watertight case.

    Surely that puts paid to any credibility he had. He’s probably wrong by a factor of 20.

    The ARU had a weak case, and the settlement demonstrates their incompetence.

  96. Tony permalink
    December 5, 2019 9:31 am

    It’s time to admit it. We’re not going to ‘stop’ catastrophic global warming climate change emergency crisis. Even the woke Europeans can’t do their part. I suppose if Australia took the moral high ground they might try harder.

    The European Union said Wednesday that it will likely miss its target for reducing greenhouse gases by 2030, dealing a blow to the bloc’s efforts to be a leader in the fight against climate change. “Recent trends highlight a slowing down of progress in areas such as reducing greenhouse gas emissions, industrial emissions, waste generation, improving energy efficiency and the share of renewable energy,” the agency said in a report. “Looking ahead, the current rate of progress will not be enough to meet 2030 and 2050 climate and energy targets.”

  97. Walrus permalink
    December 5, 2019 9:57 am

    “The ARU had a weak case, and the settlement demonstrates their incompetence.”

    Absolutely !

    Plus as Janet Albrechtsen writes in the Oz today………….

    “A team of the sassiest spin doctors can’t help Rugby Australia. They lost on Wednesday. Big time. It was an old-fashioned shellacking not seen since the Wallabies lost to England in the World Cup quarterfinal this year. Given that Westpac boss Brian Hartzer fell on his sword for a disaster he didn’t know about, surely RA boss Raelene Castle should resign for a disaster she personally orchestrated.

    Put it this way. Earlier this year, Israel Folau, who was sacked by RA for posting on social media his religious beliefs, said: “First and foremost I am hoping for an apology from RA and an acknowledgment that even if they disagree with my views, I should be free to peacefully express my religious beliefs without fear of retribution or exclusion.”

    That was in August. Castle responded by saying RA would not apologise to Folau.

    On Wednesday afternoon, following marathon mediation negotiations, RA wholeheartedly apologised to Folau. In fact, the humiliating settlement overseen by Castle saw RA “acknowledge and apologise for any hurt or harm caused” to both Israel and his wife, Maria. It reads like a mea culpa from RA for being part of the pile-on that Maria endured when she publicly supported her husband during this battle………….”

    RA was humiliated yesterday and Castle’s position is totally untenable. First the World Cup disaster now this

  98. Walrus permalink
    December 5, 2019 10:10 am

    And in order to cover up the full settlement amount it would not surprise me if RA asks a major sponsor(s) to pay Folau directly from sponsorship monies due to RA.

    Nothing would surprise me or is that being too mischievous in my thinking ?

  99. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 5, 2019 10:22 am

    There is insurance cover for part of the payment, and a sponsor may well cover another portion.

    There would be absolutely no surprise in that.

    Castles is the clear example of an over-promoted executive who thinks bluster is a substitute for sound judgement.

  100. Tom R permalink
    December 5, 2019 11:14 am

    I see they’ve stuck the environment in with agriculture

    Considering the roaring success of the mdbp since they prioritized agriculture over the environment, that should work a treat

  101. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 5, 2019 12:16 pm

    Hopefully fewer departments will result in a reduction of the number of public servants.

    But probably not

  102. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 5, 2019 1:11 pm

    “”””””””””””Hopefully fewer departments will result in a reduction of the number of public servants. “””””””””””””””””

    These deadbeats are on 15.4% Super. Before Costello they were on defined benefits scheme which gave them megabucks for life.

  103. TB Queensland permalink
    December 5, 2019 1:21 pm

    TB nails it.

    Your “list” doen’t show how many LNP pollies dodged the bullet(s)

  104. Tom R permalink
    December 5, 2019 1:59 pm

    The grasslands boy who cried Wolf

  105. TB Queensland permalink
    December 5, 2019 3:03 pm

    You stalking me, TR, I just read the “fairy tale” … oh, time … no I’m not stalking you either!

  106. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 5, 2019 3:51 pm

    TomR

    I looked at the video. What was it all about because I have no idea?

  107. Walrus permalink
    December 5, 2019 4:12 pm

    “…………….. because I have no idea?”

    LOL

  108. Tom R permalink
    December 5, 2019 5:41 pm

  109. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 5, 2019 5:56 pm

    https://7news.com.au/politics/budget/nsw-fire-union-budget-claim-not-clear-cut-c-559003

    However, in the original 2018/19 budget, handed down in June 2018, FRNSW funding for expenses was $729 million. An extra $58.2 million was allocated at the mid-year review. Based on the original 2018/19 budget, FRNSW was allocated $45.3 million more in funding in the 2019/20 budget. [7] [8]

  110. Walrus permalink
    December 5, 2019 6:13 pm

    “…….and stop relentlessly gutting NSW fire services. ”

    Giacomo Arnott………….Gee an ALP councillor from Port Stephens. Who would have thought he’d say that. Even when the Rural Fire Commissioner completely contradicts him

  111. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 6, 2019 10:02 am

    I’m surprised that public service unions haven’t demanded a heating & air-conditioning policy in their industrial agreements
    *Don’t heat above 16′
    *Don’t cool below 25′

    Surely the public service could lead the way in energy efficiency!

  112. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 6, 2019 10:23 am

    And why don’t these people just shut up? Don’t they know we can’t offend China?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/06/atrocity-of-the-century-uighur-activist-urges-australia-to-take-tougher-stance-against-china

  113. TB Queensland permalink
    December 6, 2019 12:39 pm

    Don’t they know we can’t offend China?

    ‘Bout time we did … there’s only 1.4 billion of the buggers!

    And Australia is their fifth largest importer @ 5.1% … WTF do they do for us … they only take 33.5% of our exports …

    … and if China got nasty our 82,000 ADF regs and reservists would show ’em wot’s wot … there’s only 2.2 billion in the Chinese military and about 500,000 trained in the wings … we do have about 650,000 ex service personnel to call on 🙂 … as they say in the “Green Machine” – “piece of piss” *

  114. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 6, 2019 2:57 pm

    Do you think we should shut up because they have a larger military?
    There I was thinking that progressive types had no objection to foreign policy that had an element of “the moral high ground”

  115. Tony permalink
    December 6, 2019 4:15 pm

    It’s all right though because Woolworths is going green.🙄

    Over the last decade we have become increasingly alarmed at the amount of plastic in our oceans. More than 8 million tons of it ends up in the ocean every year … But where does all this plastic waste come from? Most of it is washed into the ocean by rivers. And 90% of it comes from just 10 of them, according to a study … Eight of them are in Asia: the Yangtze; Indus; Yellow; Hai He; Ganges; Pearl; Amur; Mekong; and two in Africa – the Nile and the Niger.

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/06/90-of-plastic-polluting-our-oceans-comes-from-just-10-rivers/

  116. Tony permalink
    December 6, 2019 4:30 pm

    Pelosi: denies hating Trump, says she prays for him.
    Trump: doesn’t believe her, says she “just had nervous fit”.

    🤣😂

  117. Tony permalink
    December 6, 2019 4:43 pm

    Do you think we should shut up because they have a larger military?

    That approach has been tried before.

    Appeasement in an international context is a diplomatic policy of making political or material concessions to an aggressive power in order to avoid conflict.[1] The term is most often applied to the foreign policy of the British governments of Prime Ministers Ramsay MacDonald, Stanley Baldwin and Neville Chamberlain towards Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy[2] between 1935 and 1939.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeasement

  118. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 6, 2019 5:56 pm

    Yes and isn’t the silence of the left deafening about the South China Sea?

    Nothing at all to worry about there!

    Everyone should just STFU about anything the is remotely critical of China

    They’re just to belligerent and big to take any “moral high ground”

  119. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 6, 2019 6:01 pm

    Just on the South China Sea, the map of China’s claim provides some perspective about why neighbouring countries are concerned

  120. TB Queensland permalink
    December 6, 2019 7:51 pm

    Do you think we should shut up because they have a larger military?
    There I was thinking that progressive types had no objection to foreign policy that had an element of “the moral high ground”

    I have questions …

    1. Why should we throw stones at bullies?

    2. What do you mean “progressive types”?

    3. Why are you an agressive type?

    4. What is your version of “foreign policy”?

    5. How do you see diplomacy in the 21st Century?

    6. What does “high moral ground” have to do with intimidating our biggest trade partner and worst nightmare?
    —————————
    7. Have you ever fired a firearm?

    That approach has been tried before.

    1. Have you ever fired a firearm, can you march 30kl in six hours …

    2. What is your “solution” …?

    —————————

    Yes and isn’t the silence of the left deafening about the South China Sea?

    Nothing at all to worry about there!

    Everyone should just STFU about anything the is remotely critical of China

    They’re just to belligerent and big to take any “moral high ground”

    8. What is your “solution” …?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It’s all right though because Woolworths is going green.🙄

    My grand-kids could tell you how to eat an elephant at five years old!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Welcome to US dumb thinking in Australia …

    (yes I know who Toyota is – read some history before you play silly buggers! … Note: I worked in the Nissan environment for 16 years))

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/fired-toyota-manager-denied-379268-redundancy-package-seeking-301000-in-damages/news-story/413c381ccb1c5ed27dd15ce095a2f465

    Dumb and fucking downright nasty greed!

  121. Tony permalink
    December 6, 2019 8:25 pm

    1. Have you ever fired a firearm, can you march 30kl in six hours …

    What the Fuck does that have to do with anything you arrogant prick?

    But, if you must know, I’ve fired most calibre rifles and pistols, plus shot guns. I have no intention of telling you how or why. I’ve also ran 42kms in under four hours and done dozens of triathlons. So I’m guessing I could march 30kms in six hours – with or without a pack.

    Could you?

  122. TB Queensland permalink
    December 6, 2019 8:43 pm

    What the Fuck does that have to do with anything you arrogant prick?

    Could you?

    Yep, and I’m glad that you are so fit and weapon ready … you may need it in the scenario you are drawing …

    Arrogant … nah … experienced? A bit …

    So I’m guessing I could march 30kms in six hours – with or without a pack.

    No water BTW … the water came with swimming an Olympic pool in jungle greens boots socks and treading water for ten minutes …

    Have you “run” 42kl and then spent four hours on a target range?

    Let’s just say that if you turned up alongside me with that I’d be fucking worried … for me!

    And BTW you are the one who always sounds arrogant and worried … do you understand the theory of psychological transfer?

    Oh, and That approach has been tried before.

    Yep, it was … but it delay the inevitable for a bit … the only problem was the Tory government didn’t use the time to prepare … look up “the phony war” …

    ToSY, you didn’t answer my second question … 2. What is your “solution” …?

  123. Tony permalink
    December 6, 2019 8:57 pm

    No water BTW … the water came with swimming an Olympic pool in jungle greens boots socks and treading water for ten minutes …

    Ooh! I swam 3kms freestyle in an Olympic Pool today. Then finished off with 200m butterfly. So I’m ‘guessing’ I could manage that.

    Today! Not Nasho in the 60s or 70s or whenever you performed these superhuman feats of endurance.

  124. TB Queensland permalink
    December 6, 2019 9:07 pm

    China says it will waive import tariffs for some soybeans and pork shipments from the United States, as the two sides try to thrash out an agreement to defuse their protracted trade war.

    The tariff waivers were based on applications by individual firms for US soybeans and pork imports, the finance ministry said in a statement, citing a decision by the country’s cabinet. It did not specify the quantities involved.

    China imposed tariffs of 25 per cent on both US soybeans and pork in July 2018 as a countermeasure to tariffs levied by Washington over allegations that China steals and forces the transfer of American intellectual property to Chinese firms.

    Interesting development … pigs and soybean …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Ooh! I swam 3kms freestyle …

    FFS do you think the Chinese People’s Liberation Army GAFF how fast you can swim … ’cause I don’t!

    You have some really serious issues …

  125. TB Queensland permalink
    December 6, 2019 9:12 pm

    North Korea has threatened to resume calling US President Donald Trump a “dotard” if he keeps using provocative language about its leader.

    Choe Son Hui, North Korea’s first vice-foreign minister, issued the warning days after Mr Trump spoke of possible military action toward the isolated regime and revived his “Rocket Man” nickname for ruler Kim Jong-un.</I.

    Give them a fucking sandpit!

    Kindy Monty Python style!

  126. TB Queensland permalink
    December 6, 2019 9:14 pm

    Could not believe this when I read it!

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/state/vic/2019/12/06/warning-children-left-in-cars/

    1000 kids left in cars!

  127. Tony permalink
    December 6, 2019 9:14 pm

    You have some really serious issues …

    Haw haw. Have a listen to yourself. You’re the one who brought up guns, marching, and Olympic pools. (And now you’re an internet psychologist!)

    Give me a fucking spell.

  128. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 6, 2019 11:43 pm

    I’ve no idea what you’re ranting on about TB, I suppose your foreign policy is – “STFU about China, in case we offend them”

    That sounds like a great solution

  129. TB Queensland permalink
    December 7, 2019 7:15 pm

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/07/victoria-falls-dries-to-a-trickle-after-worst-drought-in-a-century

    WGAS about China … when the world is dying …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That sounds like a great solution

    I’m still waiting for your solution …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Give me a fucking spell.

    Not my area of expertise …

    But just for you …

  130. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 7, 2019 7:41 pm

    “”” Worst drought in a century””””

    Got me thinking about how stupid we are. Just got my quarterly water bill. Cost was $198 but only $18 was for water usage. The rest was for service.

    We should be using our shower water and bath water for flushing toilets. You could even use the bath water for washing your clothes.

    When only 10% of the water bill is for usage and 90% and for the service nobody is going to find ways of saving water

  131. TB Queensland permalink
    December 7, 2019 8:06 pm

    … nobody is going to find ways of saving water

    Here’s a clue … wash clothes twice a week (install a solar hot water system) … and pipe the water to the back yard to keep it alive … shower in a tub and also water the back yard (let the front yard die) … have a 5000ltr stainless steel* water tank for watering the back yard … a 3000ltr stainless steel* water tank for drinking water (filtered going in, Britax jug out, boiled and then filtered in a filter system using royal doulton filter … sweetest water … and finally employ the rhyme – “if its yellow let it mellow, if its brown, flush it down” … check your own water meter – we just had a bill reading of 468Kl … when we checked (two weeks after the reading) it was 461Kl … complained – $80 refund … last read 463 …

    And finally … The Minister for War, Water, Finance and Fun has pushed for another 3000ltr stainless steel* tank for the front fkn garden!

    *Stainless steel because the water is potable … other tanks have a “plasticised” film that eventually breaks down … and the water becomes ……………………………..?

    Added bonus stainless steel gives really good return if scrapped!

    “There is always a way” – family motto …

  132. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 7, 2019 8:25 pm

    TB

    My point is when 80-90% of your water bill is for the service and only 10% is for water usage most people are not interested in saving water.

    If you had to pay mega bucks to use water people would not pull the plug out when they had finished having a bath. They would use the water to flush toilets or wash their clothes.

    The water bill needs to be changed to how much you use rather than the majority to be for a service

  133. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 7, 2019 10:55 pm

    Try this-
    1. Observe international law and suggest that China do likewise
    2. Exercise the rights of navigation through the South China Sea
    3. Don’t be shy about expressing concerns about human rights abuses in China and elsewhere

    But I suppose TB you’d prefer to not bother with all that because China has a bigger military

  134. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 8, 2019 9:15 am

    TB wouldn’t recommend this type of provocative statement, because China has a bigger military service.

    Australia and Indonesia have jointly declared “serious concerns” about the state of the South China Sea, issuing a warning about China’s militarisation of the contested waters and urging adherence to international law.

    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/australia-and-indonesia-voice-serious-concerns-about-south-china-sea-20191207-p53hst.html

  135. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 8, 2019 1:27 pm

    It seems to me the the ARU should have made a statement along the same lines as Tennis Australia, about Margaret Court.

    But they were just incompetent and decided to act with pique and the outcome is exactly what happens to incompetent management

  136. TB Queensland permalink
    December 8, 2019 7:10 pm

    But I suppose TB you’d prefer to not bother with all that because China has a bigger military

    I agree with your “points” … but I’d do it far more diplomatically than your government has been … China isn’t the bully in a school yard … its the bully whose dad owns the school … (thump the bastard quetly in the corner!) … not scream at him in the school hall … (analogies I’m sure you are familiar with) … and before you do that ensure that you have a bunch of mates that will side with you … do you trust Trump? Johnson? Duterte? etc …

    TB wouldn’t recommend this type of provocative statement, because China has a bigger military service.

    And do not “suppose” or “extrapolate” or “transpose” what I would or wouldn’t do or say … its becoming tiresome …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’m no fan of Joe Hilderbrand but his assessment here is spot on.

    Me too, reb, but I found many of the comments amusing …

  137. TB Queensland permalink
    December 8, 2019 7:11 pm

    … the outcome is exactly what happens to incompetent management

    And there is till alot of that going around!

  138. Tom R permalink
    December 9, 2019 9:24 am

    Yes and isn’t the silence of the left deafening about the South China Sea?

    I recall a certain Sam getting hounded out by our press because ‘allegedly’ his position differed from Labors

    Silently I assume?

  139. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 9, 2019 9:24 am

    There is no need to be any more polite to China than we are to any other country. There are plenty of their neighbours that are expressing serious concerns with their flouting of international law, and it is reasonable that we provide support.

    We’re a long way from any military problem with China and shouldn’t be shy about being direct.

  140. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 9, 2019 9:31 am

    Was his problem the expression of a different view or that the view was expressed at the time of a payment ?

    There was an odour about the payment I recall.

  141. Tom R permalink
    December 9, 2019 9:34 am

    There was an odour about the payment I recall.

    Do you mean the payment that he had declared publicly over a year earlier?

    Which obviously then had nothing to do with the timing.

    And, thanks for acknowledging the non silence so silently 😉

  142. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 9, 2019 10:16 am

    Do you think Dastayri was pushed out of the senate because he expressed a different opinion, or because he seemed to be willing to accept largesse for his opinion?

  143. Tom R permalink
    December 9, 2019 10:25 am

    I just showed that the payment (which every pollie takes from time to time) had nothing to do with his comments

    I also note that you have pivoted away from silence to just pure obfuscation now..

    Weren’t you talking about how quiet ‘teh left’ was about something?

  144. Tony permalink
    December 9, 2019 10:28 am

    Quiz.

    Which Catastrophic Global Warming Climate Change PlaneHeating Emergency Crisis Denier(!) said this today?

    “If Australia stopped exporting today there would not be less demand for coal – the coal would come from a different place. So it would not reduce emissions – which has to be the objective. I don’t see a contradiction between that and having a strong climate change policy.”

    “We’ve got to consider what the actual outcome is from any proposal, and the proposal that we immediately stop exporting coal would damage our economy and would not have any environmental benefit.”

  145. Tony permalink
    December 9, 2019 10:29 am

    *Planet Heating

  146. Tom R permalink
    December 9, 2019 10:36 am

    Which Catastrophic Global Warming Climate Change PlaneHeating Emergency Crisis Denier(!) said this today?

    the IPCC?

    https://climateanalytics.org/publications/2019/coal-phase-out-insights-from-the-ipcc-special-report-on-15c-and-global-trends-since-2015/

  147. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 9, 2019 11:57 am

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-16/bob-hawke-legacy-nine-things-he-got-done-in-office/6514794

    TB

    I think that article shows how biased the ABC is. I think it is unlikely that the ABC would publish an article on the achievements of Howard of which there were many. I am not sure taxpayers money should be used for something like that

  148. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 9, 2019 12:20 pm

    Didn’t he get an agent of the Chinese government to pay a legal settlement?

  149. Tom R permalink
    December 9, 2019 12:37 pm

    Didn’t you say something about ‘teh left’ and silence?

  150. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 9, 2019 1:04 pm

    *China increases coal fired power faster than the EU can close them- where are the howls of protest?
    *People in Hong Kong want a greater say in how they are governed- imagine if that was US imperialism
    *China flouts international law and builds military installations in disputed territory . Any protest?

  151. Tony permalink
    December 9, 2019 1:26 pm

    the IPCC?

    Incorrect. It was Anthony Albanese speaking to Queenslanders. Wonder what he’ll say to the green-left inner-city Pilates mums in Melbourne.

    We still don’t know if Labor supports Adani or opening up the Galilee Basin.

  152. Tom R permalink
    December 9, 2019 1:28 pm

    Incorrect

    [facepalm] I should have put in a sarc tag for the slower ones, hey 😉

    yomm “silently” screams at his screen.

  153. Tony permalink
    December 9, 2019 2:02 pm

    I should have put in a sarc tag for the slower ones, hey 😉

    No. You should have explained how Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia Labor had always been the party of coal. 😂

  154. Walrus permalink
    December 9, 2019 2:02 pm

    LOL

    https://endcoal.org/tracker/

  155. Tom R permalink
    December 9, 2019 2:07 pm

    Labor had always been the party of coal.

    Take it up with the CFMEU 😉

  156. Tony permalink
    December 9, 2019 2:18 pm

    Adam Bandt disagrees. He wants to export our sunshine. 🙄

    Albo must be on to something.

  157. Tom R permalink
    December 9, 2019 2:50 pm

    Adam Bandt disagrees

    If he didn’t, he’s suffer some kind of aneurysm

  158. December 9, 2019 3:47 pm

    I think with Albo at the helm, FauxMo is pretty much guaranteed another term.

  159. Tom R permalink
    December 9, 2019 3:55 pm

    Pretty much gauranteed with all hte gnashing of teeth, especially when people realize it’s what Labor has been saying all along.

    And it mirrors the IPCC’s outlook

  160. Tony permalink
    December 9, 2019 4:23 pm

    it’s what Labor has been saying all along.

    Silently.

  161. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 9, 2019 8:03 pm

    Police just waved through a killer…

    I’m tired of politicians, and particularly Daniel Andrews, telling us that the police do a great job, how proud he is of them… and blah, blah, blah.

    The police are generally ineffective, dumb bullies. There are few exceptions.

    Moving a police car so that a killer can run over pedestrians, is an example of their judgement.

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/gargasoulas-waved-at-cops-to-move-and-they-let-him-pass-inquest-told-20191209-p53i7g.html

  162. TB Queensland permalink
    December 9, 2019 8:28 pm

    Moving a police car so that a killer can run over pedestrians, is an example of their judgement.

    Were you there?

    Have you had police training?

    What would you have done?

    Did you know what the outcome of the decision would be?

  163. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 9, 2019 8:35 pm

    They were already in pursuit, he had already stabbed someone. He was clearly dangerous and police know vehicles are used as weapons. The police bureaucracy also tried to prevent their own investigation bring used.

    The recruitment pool of the police is made up of fat, dumb bullies with no judgement or sense of public service.

    The inquest will be scathing in their assessment of their actions, but nothing will surprise me.

    Queue Daniel Andrews to mouth some platitudes

  164. Tony permalink
    December 9, 2019 8:38 pm

    And it mirrors the IPCC’s outlook

    Is the IPCC in favour of Adani or against it?

  165. TB Queensland permalink
    December 9, 2019 8:45 pm

    I think with Albo at the helm, FauxMo is pretty much guaranteed another term.

    Yep! Told ya so years ago!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Adam Bandt disagrees. He wants to export our sunshine.

    Showin’ ya iggorance again …

    The first law of thermodynamics, also known as Law of Conservation of Energy, states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; energy can only be transferred or changed from one form to another. … In other words, energy cannot be created or destroyed.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    We’re a long way from any military problem with China and shouldn’t be shy about being direct.

    Ya think?* It could be with the Trump Dynasty down the track … maybe we should get rid of the Marines in Darwin?

    *Prove it!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Didn’t he get an agent of the Chinese government to pay a legal settlement?

    Stop listening to Alan “Dickhead” Jones …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Walrus permalink
    December 9, 2019 2:02 pm

    LOL

    Thanks for that, Wally …

    Demonstrates why they ALL SHOULD GO!

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/09/windfarms-drive-fall-in-wholesale-energy-price-with-lower-bills-forecast-for-2020

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-07/study-shows-impact-wind-solar-gas-power-on-electricity-prices/10590876

    https://reneweconomy.com.au/queensland-says-wind-solar-key-to-lower-power-bills-creates-new-renewables-generation-company-52072/

    All we need you to now is rain on the drought parade … instead of pissing on the power parade!

    Oh!

    LOL!

  166. December 9, 2019 11:01 pm

    “Yep! Told ya so years ago!”

    Years ago..? Really….?

    Last time I looked he’s only been PM for 6 or 7 months…

  167. TB Queensland permalink
    December 9, 2019 11:46 pm

    Nah, reb, when all the pundits were saying he should have the job … look it up*

  168. Tom R permalink
    December 10, 2019 8:18 am

    Is the IPCC in favour of Adani or against it?

    For the slower class members 😉

    https://theguttertrash.com/2019/12/03/conservative-mp-george-christensen-a-regular-at-manila-strip-club/#comment-166218

  169. Tom R permalink
    December 10, 2019 8:28 am

  170. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 10, 2019 9:28 am

    What a F**KING outrageous thing to say.

    There are up to a dozen Australians dead and some f**kwit talks about climate change and bushfires?

  171. December 10, 2019 9:40 am

    What a F**KING outrageous thing to say.”

    I think it’s perfectly valid.

    Sydney has been shrouded in smoke for weeks, fires are raging out of control, lives lost, livelihoods destroyed, meanwhile FauxMo plays waterboy at the cricket.

    Of course, he’ll jump on a plane to high tail it to NZ. Any excuse to escape the shit show back here.

  172. Tom R permalink
    December 10, 2019 9:42 am

    A personal visit so he can manhug the kiwis pm (again), meanwhile, Australians get

  173. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 10, 2019 10:43 am

    Yeah!! Politicians should never show any interest in sport!!

  174. Tom R permalink
    December 10, 2019 10:45 am

    Politicians should never show any interest in sport!

    Can you pin point which particular tragedy Gillard was ‘using sport’ to call attention away from there yomm?

    Thought not 😉

  175. Tony permalink
    December 10, 2019 10:46 am

    smoke created by our own climate changed caused emergency

    So are all bushfires from now on caused by climate change, or only some?

  176. December 10, 2019 10:50 am

    “So are all bushfires from now on caused by climate change, or only some?”

    Good question.

    I’ll look forward to reading your research on the matter.

  177. Tony permalink
    December 10, 2019 10:51 am

    For the slower class members 😉

    Because I’m a bit slow on the uptake (and I can’t be arsed reading your link) perhaps you can be specific. Does the IPCC allow new coal mines – such as Adani and the wider Galilee Basin – or not? Just trying to work out what Labor’s policy is going to be.

  178. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 10, 2019 10:53 am

    What? Morrison is showing an interest in cricket during the cricket season!!

    Who was the last politician who DIDN’T do that??

    Because that’s what all politicians do! In case you hadn’t noticed.

    But back to the tweet you obviously support. Why isn’t it appropriate for a PM to comment on a tragedy in our nearest neighbour, where perhaps a dozen Australians died?

  179. Tony permalink
    December 10, 2019 10:55 am

    Good question

    I thought so too. I was hoping someone on Twitter would know.

  180. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 10, 2019 10:57 am

    Yes, 4 people died in NSW during early November, but it’s unacceptable for the PM to comment when a dozen died in a volcano eruption in mid December.

    Figure that out.

  181. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 10, 2019 11:00 am

    And if only Australia had cut its emissions by 50% a decade ago. The world would now only have 99.4 % as much carbon and these bushfires would not have happened!!

    AND…we could have taken the moral high ground!

  182. Tom R permalink
    December 10, 2019 11:11 am

    What? Morrison is showing an interest in cricket during the cricket season

    He used it to send a message to firefighters who, to be honest, at that particular juncture, couldn’t give a rats arse about the friggin cricket

    Because I’m a bit slow on the uptake (and I can’t be arsed reading your link) perhaps you can be specific.

    Perhaps I couldn’t be arsed wiping yor arse for you?

  183. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 10, 2019 11:15 am

    Fine, so if firefighters don’t care, why are you so bothered?

    But who was the last ALP or Liberal leader who didn’t show an interest in sport?

    And why isn’t it appropriate for a PM to express concern about a dozen Australians being killed in tragic circumstances in our nearest neighbour?

  184. December 10, 2019 11:23 am

    “it’s unacceptable for the PM to comment when a dozen died in a volcano eruption in mid December.”

    If you say so..

  185. December 10, 2019 11:27 am

    “He used it to send a message to firefighters who, to be honest, at that particular juncture, couldn’t give a rats arse about the friggin cricket”

    Indeed.

    “Fine, so if firefighters don’t care, why are you so bothered?”

    Because you know, a few other Australians were preoccupied with the devastation of the bushfires while you know, the PM played waterboy at the cricket. Or do you think that playing waterboy is Prime Ministerial during a crisis?

  186. Tom R permalink
    December 10, 2019 11:33 am

    Fine, so if firefighters don’t care, why are you so bothered?

    The cricket, they couldn’t give a damn about.

    Support and services to help aid them in a crisis ….. yea, maybe they would have preferred the pm was out there rounding some up, instead of playing waterboy for overpaid ball chuckers

    I mean, he was too busy prior to that to meet with ex fire chiefs (but not too busy to fix toilet signage) and then too busy when his cavalier attitude started to have real consequences

  187. ivi permalink
    December 10, 2019 12:01 pm

    (AND…we could have taken the moral high ground!

    It’s fine; the marginal snap, crackle and pop of a little bit of post-glacial rebound, and a few extra billion tonnes of expanding liquified gas sloshing around, twice a day, every day, over a thinnish crust, never hurt anyone; besides, it’s not as if the customary lore of the seas might be a tad obsessed with teensy-weensy measurements of heights and distances relative to (in)continental (a)drifts.)

  188. December 10, 2019 12:26 pm

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  189. December 10, 2019 12:28 pm

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  190. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 10, 2019 12:35 pm

    And look at the ABC, 3 out of the first 4 stories are about people dying in New Zealand.

    Don’t they know there’s a climate change emergency and we should take the moral high ground?

  191. Tom R permalink
    December 10, 2019 1:35 pm

    Of course morrison is happy with the status quo

    As long as there are people prepared to sacrifice so much, why would he?

    yommm sees nothing, maybe it’s the smoke?

  192. December 10, 2019 1:38 pm

    Yes but more importantly, what’s the name of that Bill Bryson book you’re reading again?

  193. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 10, 2019 1:54 pm

    I was reading Identity Crisis by Ben Elton, which was hilarious for the first 2/3 but then became a fairly mundane story.

    So it’s best to stop reading at page 150

  194. December 10, 2019 1:55 pm

    Nothing to see here, move along…*

    An annual report on the civil rights of countries worldwide has downgraded Australia’s democracy from “open” to “narrowed”.

    This was due to recent police raids on media outlets, the growing trend of prosecuting whistleblowers like Witness K – and the increasing crackdown on peaceful protest.

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/australia-s-democracy-has-been-downgraded-from-open-to-narrowed

    *Or we’ll put you in the van.

  195. December 10, 2019 1:56 pm

    “So it’s best to stop reading at page 150”

    Oh ok. I might just photocopy the first 150 pages at the library then.

  196. December 10, 2019 2:14 pm

    So apparently, the smoke is so bad in Sydney, it’s the equivalent of smoking a pack a day.

    Think of the money people’ll save.

  197. Tom R permalink
    December 10, 2019 3:42 pm

    Fire and Rescue Station 505 at Wyong has released some comparison stats on bushfire emergencies in recent decades. This is by far the biggest in terms of area burned (but is a distant second after the disastrous Black Saturday fires in terms of lives and homes lost).

    “This information shows the sheer destruction that has occurred and could have been worse if it wasn’t for everyone doing their bit,” they said.

    I don’t think #smoko morrision is included in that list

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2019/dec/10/nsw-fires-sydney-smoke-bushfires-qld-australia-new-south-wales-rural-fire-live-news-latest-updates?page=with:block-5def20358f08951c7479d824#block-5def20358f08951c7479d824

  198. Tom R permalink
    December 10, 2019 4:00 pm

  199. December 10, 2019 4:42 pm

    This is fine, but wait – a volcano!

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  200. Walrus permalink
    December 10, 2019 4:51 pm

    “Sydney’s transport is on its knees as thick bushfire smoke throws the city into chaos.”

    What rubbish. I had lunch and a quiet drink at a get together at the Opera Bar this afternoon. Sure there was a strong smell of smoke and visibility was way down but definitely not choke worthy.

    People just whinge at anything these days. We don’t often or ever have arsonists lighting fires to the south , west and north simultaneously

    The seagulls were still squarking and making a nuisance until the anti-seagull dog (that they employ below the award minimum I’m sure) made an appearance

  201. Tom R permalink
    December 10, 2019 7:10 pm

    Lol, Sydney’s got it’s worse smoke conditions on record, the equivalent of 30 smokes a day, and deniers are out there getting a lung full just to try and prove ……

    ?

    That they’re the idiots?

  202. December 10, 2019 8:01 pm

    What rubbish. I had lunch and a quiet drink at a get together at the Opera Bar this afternoon. Sure there was a strong smell of smoke and visibility was way down but definitely not choke worthy.

    But of course you did.

  203. December 11, 2019 7:16 am

    (Correct. All the (team)Fans prefer to watch their favorite cave shadows and not face the reality(s) of the world. Nobody noticed the global cooling welcome to (once in eight hundred years event) spring, has successfully (by)passed the military grade packaging to allow all citizens of the state be a pack`a week (koala flavored) smoke`rs. Usually the holy(er-than-thou) (anti)freedom pinkists are bleating loudly the success of military-grade packaging to prevent citizens smoking. l am relieved to find those pinkists are not found around here.)

  204. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 11, 2019 10:15 am

    Environmentally friendly!!

    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-11/jackie-trad-election-signs-found-dumped/11786360

  205. Tony permalink
    December 11, 2019 10:37 am

  206. TB Queensland permalink
    December 11, 2019 11:01 am

    Iceberg? What iceberg?

    That’s nice – the band has just struck up, ah, Abide With Me, the Australian PM – what’s his name again … will enjoy this …

  207. Tony permalink
    December 11, 2019 1:22 pm

    Trump Prince Andrew Bill Shorten Teh Fire Chieves should be Time person of the year.

  208. December 11, 2019 2:22 pm

    A lot like this place…

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  209. Tom R permalink
    December 11, 2019 2:33 pm

    Wait, you can a fish as your profile pic?

    I’m getting ripped off!

  210. TB Queensland permalink
    December 11, 2019 3:18 pm

    A lot like this place…

    ToSY’s nickname is Davo?

    _______________________________

    Do the LNP do anything but pray and hope and watch cricket and football?

  211. Tony permalink
    December 11, 2019 5:03 pm

    Australia ranked worst of 57 countries on climate change policy

    China is seventh on that list. Woo hoo, Go China!

    New Zealand is 27th.

  212. TB Queensland permalink
    December 11, 2019 5:22 pm

    Breaking News!

    The bushfires, and subsequent smoke across major East Coast cities, are actually designed to encourage construction of more coal power plants …

    By blocking the sun the smoke reduces the effectiveness of solar PVCs … thus requiring more energy from coal and perpetuating the cycle …

    Brilliant … 🙄

  213. Tom R permalink
    December 11, 2019 7:03 pm

    deliver a temperature cut of 0.002°C

    Worth every cent.

    imagine, we currently have an increase of 1.1°C (with the resultant havoc being wreaked by that). NZ alone would make it only 1.098°C, instead of the over 2°C (probably more)

    Can you imagine the fires then.

    UNPRECEDENTED would be a yearly occurrence.

    .
    .
    .

    Oh, it is now 😦

  214. Tony permalink
    December 11, 2019 10:35 pm

    NZ alone would make it only 1.098°C, instead of the over 2°C (probably more)

    Your maths are a bit off. NZ alone would make it 1.098 degrees instead of 1.1 degrees.

    It will take the combined heroic effort of every other country known to man to reach anything like 2 degrees.

  215. December 12, 2019 5:34 am

    That`s correct, us LogCabin`rs know its all a hoax. The 2gb`rs have already uncovered the fog-machines containing dry ice, eucalyptus oil and toasted koala scent pumping out fog on top of the Blue mountains. The greenists are just creating panic across the state so they can extort premier gladys for more lentil funding.

  216. Tom R permalink
    December 12, 2019 8:14 am

    Your maths are a bit off

    Hey, I’m just going on the crazy dutch dudes numbers (granted, they change quicker than the ….. climate 😉 )

    Waiting for the old white dudes to melt down lol

  217. Tom R permalink
    December 12, 2019 8:18 am

    Speaking of outraged old white dudes, theirabc proves it’s a whipped dog

    “The ABC has signalled it is privileging the fragile sensibilities of white men over the wellbeing and safety of women,” she said. “It is a reminder that imaginary violence against men upsets and disturbs more than actual violence against women.”

    https://www.smh.com.au/culture/tv-and-radio/abc-finalises-q-and-a-investigation-over-radical-views-complaints-20191211-p53iyg.html

    We all know that these complaints would have come from the same cohort who then argue that we should have the ‘right to be a bigot’
    Unless of course it’s aimed at them.

  218. Tony permalink
    December 12, 2019 8:28 am

    Hey, I’m just going on the crazy dutch dudes numbers

    Yeah, they were New Zealand’s own numbers. (Lomborg is Danish, btw.)

    We just have to look to New Zealand, the only country to have actually made an estimate of the cost of achieving carbon neutrality.

    New Zealand’s prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, received plaudits this year for passing legislation designed to achieve carbon neutrality by 2050. To her credit, her government asked a respected economics institute to estimate the cost. This revealed that getting to 50 percent below 1990-levels in 2050 would cost at least 5 percent of GDP annually by 2050 … For New Zealand, the cost is similar to today’s entire expenditure on socialized education and health care. And getting all the way, rather than halfway, will likely cost 16 percent of GDP by 2050. That is more than New Zealand today spends on social security and welfare, health, education, police, courts, defense, environment, and every other part of government combined.

  219. Tom R permalink
    December 12, 2019 9:11 am

    guess we just get used to fires, cos some danish dutch dude reckons it’s all so hard

    Interesting that, for the past two decades, deniers have fought against the reality of climate change

    Now that that reality is staring them in the face, it’s all too hard to combat, so just burn baby burn.

    Basically, anything to do nothing.

  220. Tom R permalink
    December 12, 2019 9:12 am

    Australia’s plan to use an accounting loophole to meet its commitment under the Paris climate agreement has no legal basis and suggests it has reneged on a pledge to make deeper emissions cuts once a global deal was reached, a new report says.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/12/australias-use-of-accounting-loophole-to-meet-paris-deal-found-to-have-no-legal-basis

    Looks like Australia’s bullshit aint gonna fly

  221. Tony permalink
    December 12, 2019 9:19 am

    Basically, anything to do nothing.

    That’s fine. So is Teh CFMEU Labor for Adani or against it?

  222. Tony permalink
    December 12, 2019 9:25 am

    Australia’s plan to use an accounting loophole to meet its commitment under the Paris climate agreement has no legal basis

    Bullshit.

    It’s the same legal basis that every country in the world uses when they allow companies to carry forward previous years’ losses to offset current profits.

    Australia exceeded its Paris commitments in previous years and quite correctly wants them taken in to account when calculating current emissions.

  223. Tom R permalink
    December 12, 2019 9:28 am

    Carryover credits were allowed under the soon-to-be-obsolete Kyoto protocol in a bid to encourage countries to be as ambitious in cutting pollution as possible. They were not mentioned in the original Paris agreement but have been added to the text being negotiated in Madrid, with some countries proposing they be banned.

    So, basically, we are relying on the goodwill of other nations.

    Goodwill we have not been able to reciprocate for a the past 6 or 7 years.

    Good luck with that 😉

  224. Tony permalink
    December 12, 2019 9:31 am

    Goodwill. Is that the same as Moral High Ground?

  225. December 12, 2019 9:36 am

    I think ” with Albo at the helm, FauxMo is pretty much guaranteed another term

    Can l ask why the pinkists are generally `down` on albo. Sure reb, l reckon the zombies are being gifted each election the dishwaters fail to clean house of the KR and JG knifers, but nobody seems to be `down` on blib stooten. Whats albo done? @smoke`em.if`ya.got`em

  226. Tony permalink
    December 12, 2019 9:44 am

    And The Guardians of the Year are … drum roll … The Public Servants. The Public Servants. Guardians.

    https://time.com/guardians-of-the-year-2019-public-servants/

  227. Walrus permalink
    December 12, 2019 10:29 am

    “Jeez, that’s a surprise.”

    Now we know why Jo Stalin and Adolf Hitler got the cover in years gone by

  228. Tom R permalink
    December 12, 2019 4:18 pm

    Whether it’s wanton, wilful or plain stupidity

    Honestly, who can tell anymore. And I guess that’s just the way he wants it (well, he gets it)

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/12/firies-and-fury-exhausted-volunteers-decry-pms-claim-they-want-to-be-there?CMP=share_btn_tw

  229. Tony permalink
    December 12, 2019 6:10 pm

    This makes more sense to those of us who are not climate hysterics as worried about global warming.

    Hong Kong Protestors Win TIME’s 2019 Person of the Year Reader Poll

    https://time.com/5747261/person-of-the-year-2019-reader-poll-results/

  230. TB Queensland permalink
    December 12, 2019 7:08 pm

    More Happy Clappy bum scratching, prayers and hope BS filtering to the RFS …

    Copacabana on the NSW central coast and Ingleside in Sydney’s north both started grassroots campaigns appealing for funds to buy more face masks.

    This week Joe Arena, the treasurer of the Copacabana brigade, wrote on Facebook that the crew were “horrified” they have had to use RFS-issued P2-grade dust masks.

    He said the crew was “completely exhausted” from battling blazes in the Hawkesbury region of the central coast but that volunteers “have no choice but to go out and fight fire with what we have”.

    “In defence of the RFS, these are unprecedented conditions on a scale no one could have anticipated,” Arena wrote.

    That message has now been deleted and replaced with a thank you message from the brigade.</blockquote

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/12/volunteer-firefighters-in-australia-warned-not-to-crowdfund-for-equipment

  231. TB Queensland permalink
    December 12, 2019 7:11 pm

    Whats albo done?

    Ya know how LNP think Turnbull is a fifth columnist for the ALP?

    You figure it out!

  232. TB Queensland permalink
    December 12, 2019 7:14 pm

    Goodwill. Is that the same as Moral High Ground?

    Can’t tell the difference? Mmmmm …

  233. TB Queensland permalink
    December 12, 2019 7:20 pm

    … takes aim at countries like Australia using dodgy accounting tricks to avoid real climate action.

    Why not everything else is dodgy out of Australia these days … I’m just sick of being tarred with the same brush that the international community paints your government of Australia with … bum scratching bumblers … extremus

  234. TB Queensland permalink
    December 12, 2019 7:31 pm

    PROFIT! PROFIT! PROFIT! PROFIT!

    Subsidised by taxpayers …. it has to fucking stop!

    I no longer support ANY political party in Australia! NONE! NOT ONE!

    This country is operated pillaged at will by corporate greed …

    If a company depletes water in a community so much … we have a very sick legislative regime …

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/12/queensland-school-water-commercial-bottlers-tamborine-mountain

    I prefer to live in a society – not a corporate economy!

  235. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 12, 2019 7:38 pm

    You’re so negative TB, on almost any measure Australia is one of the best countries in the world to live.

    But you really seem to enjoy bagging it.

  236. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 12, 2019 8:03 pm

    Tom of M

    TB is unhappy that the Coalition is in power. His statements would be different if Labor was in power. All he cares about is labor being in govt no matter what damage the ALP does to Australia

  237. Tony permalink
    December 12, 2019 8:13 pm

    Don’t be so hard on TB Queensland. It takes a lot of effort to be that miserable. 🤣😂

  238. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 12, 2019 8:43 pm

    TB lives in Brisbane, and I can only imagine the awful effect that has on his physical and mental wellbeing.

    I think he would have a far more positive demeanor if he lived among civilised people.

  239. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 12, 2019 9:06 pm

    Unemployment is now at 5.3% Lower than anytime from 1983-1996 and for most of the time under the Howard govt. Unemployment was at 11% when Keating became PM.

    Times are tough but they always are. What worries me is that thanks to Howard we were debt free in 2008 when the GFC hit. Thanks to the traitors to Australia ie Labor, govt debt is now at 18% of GDP. What do we do when the next GFC hits?

  240. TB Queensland permalink
    December 12, 2019 10:33 pm

    You’re so negative TB, on almost any measure Australia is one of the best countries in the world to live.

    It was …

    TB is unhappy that the Coalition is in power.

    “I no longer support ANY political party in Australia! NONE! NOT ONE!”

    FFS!

  241. TB Queensland permalink
    December 12, 2019 10:35 pm

    TB lives in Brisbane, and I can only imagine the awful effect that has on his physical and mental wellbeing.

    Shallow minded comments as usual …

    Communities are being destroyed by pirates like you … shareholders need to wake up …

  242. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 13, 2019 7:45 am

    Do you have a link that shows Australia bring anything other than one of the best places in the world to live?

    But being in Brisbane, I can’t understand, in part, why you have such a negative frame of mind.

  243. Tom R permalink
    December 13, 2019 8:24 am

    Do you have a link that shows Australia bring anything other than one of the best places in the world to live?

    Challenge ACCEPTED


    Australia is now in line with the United States, Ghana and Botswana in terms of civil freedoms.

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/australia-s-democracy-has-been-downgraded-from-open-to-narrowed

    Australia’s climate change record has been ranked among the bottom five nations in the world in a global assessment of countries’ emissions trajectories.

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/cause-for-great-concern-australia-ranked-last-in-global-assessment-on-climate-action

    Australian poverty in graphs: it’s a desperate state of affairs

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/apr/15/australian-poverty-in-graphs-its-a-desperate-state-of-affairs

    Why are Australian workers getting the smallest pay rises since WWII?

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-28/why-workers-are-getting-the-smallest-pay-rises-since-wwii/10942530

    oh, and don’t forget this pearler 😉

    Australia falls to the ridiculously-low 62nd place in global internet speed rankings

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/australia-falls-to-the-ridiculously-low-62nd-place-in-global-internet-speed-rankings-2019-4

    “What have the liberals ever done for us”

    took us to last place on so many measures 😦

  244. Walrus permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:02 am

    Go Jeremy go…………………..win that election and show the UK that they really should have paid a bit more attention to the miracle economic performance of your mentor Hugo Chavez in Venezuela.

    Show the world how socialism can transform an economy overnight by compulsory acquisition of private school land, 10% of the shares of UK listed companies, massive tax increases for middle and higher income earners, increases in company taxes, nationalisation of key utilities.

    I look forward to visiting in a year’s time after the pound has crashed through the floor and the UK is ultra competitive again.

    Bring it on……………..the world needs a dose of socialism every now and again just to remind us of its greatness

  245. Tony permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:14 am

    Exit polls – not the actual vote, but it may be an indicator to what’s going on – see Boris winning in a landslide. Corbyn looks toast.

  246. Tony permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:18 am

    The share market will be interesting today. I’m tipping a surge.

  247. Tony permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:28 am

    The £ pound is up.

  248. December 13, 2019 9:31 am

    “I’m tipping a surge.”

    If the rumour that a US China trade deal is about to be reached is true. I reckon you’re right.

  249. Tom R permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:36 am

    Number 8 for life expectancy

    Tell it to the First Australians ffs!

    Notice we didn’t come first in any of them, but we came last in a few 😉

  250. Walrus permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:39 am

    “Boris winning in a landslide. Corbyn looks toast.”

    Damn……………..I was so looking forward to watching their economy being transformed

  251. December 13, 2019 9:42 am

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  252. Tony permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:42 am

    The Scottish National Party looks like winning 55 of the 59 seats in the House of Commons, up from 35. They are sure to push for another referendum on Scottish independence.

  253. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:42 am

    Yes, I agree, there’s plenty of dispossession , and no government has adequately dealt with indigenous issues.

    I’m not sure there is any country that has adequately dealt with it first people

    But that’s no reason to whine about everything here.

  254. Walrus permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:43 am

    “Boris winning in a landslide. Corbyn looks toast.”

    And in the longer term the EU is also toast

  255. Tony permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:44 am

    Anglo-American authoritarian, theocratic, corporatist fascism.

    Yeah! Stoopid voters.

  256. Walrus permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:46 am

    “The share market will be interesting today. I’m tipping a surge.”

    Especially in the WAAAX stocks. They have copped a whacking this week.

    Especially my faves Altium and Appen

  257. Tony permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:47 am

    * 55 of the 59 Scottish seats in the House of Commons

  258. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:49 am

    Yes, Corbyn did so well ! Voter’s just have no idea, if only there was some type of qualifying test for voting.

    A question could be – Who will you votes for?

    Then those that answer correctly would be allowed to vote. If that simple procedure was introduced, we would always get the government that Peter Fitzsimons approves of and everyone (that matters) would be happy!

  259. Tom R permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:52 am

    But that’s no reason to whine about everything here.</i.

    Actually, I just added it to the list.

  260. Tony permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:59 am

    Simon Birmingham(!) the Minister for Trade and his minions should be on a plane now to get this done:

    https://dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/prospective/aukfta/Pages/australia-uk-fta.aspx

  261. Tony permalink
    December 13, 2019 10:09 am

    Voter’s just have no idea, if only there was some type of qualifying test for voting.

    Yes. One of the first questions should be: “Are you active on Twitter?” Second could be: “Do you read the Guardian?”

  262. Walrus permalink
    December 13, 2019 10:13 am

    “”Simon Birmingham(!) the Minister for Trade and his minions should be on a plane now to get this done:”

    Not so fast there………………………

    Greg Sheridan in the Oz this morning

    ” If Johnson does get any majority at all, he gets his withdrawal agreement through and Britain leaves the EU in January.

    But what happens then?

    This is only the withdrawal agreement and it provides that Britain remains bound by all EU rules, and therefore cannot conclude any new trade agreement with anyone else, until the end of 2020.Under the withdrawal agreement, Britain and the EU have to conclude their own long-term trade agreement before then.

    But the EU in all its history has never done a free-trade agreement as quickly as that.

    So Britain could easily be back to considering either a no-deal Brexit after all, or a further delay, before the end of next year.”

  263. Tony permalink
    December 13, 2019 10:22 am

    So Britain could easily be back to considering either a no-deal Brexit after all

    Good. I like this option.

  264. Walrus permalink
    December 13, 2019 10:53 am

  265. Walrus permalink
    December 13, 2019 11:17 am

    Piers Morgan has called it.

    Twitter has lost yet another election……………LOL

  266. Walrus permalink
    December 13, 2019 11:21 am

    Meanwhile back in Australia……………………………LOL

    “Bill Shorten has told supporters he still has “an immense amount of fire in the belly” and described himself as “a leader” and said the election loss he oversaw, his second as opposition leader, was not the result Labor deserved.

    His comments will reinforce a view among some Labor MPs that Mr Shorten still harbours leadership ambitions.”

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/bill-shorten-has-fire-in-the-belly-says-labor-on-the-cusp-of-victory-20191212-p53jk8.html

  267. Tom R permalink
    December 13, 2019 11:30 am

    Twitter has lost yet another election……………LOL

    Yep

    wonder if facebook had as much influence as it did in the past several?

    And holy faark libtika, the previous LEADER of the Labor party has described himself as …………

    it really is a shit rag in’t it

  268. Know`Collusion`Teabag permalink
    December 13, 2019 12:12 pm

    Here comes theBoris and theNigel. As the trump train arrives in britannia and corbyn`s dishwaters join the Legacy outlets prat-pack under the wheels, l see blib stooten is making noises to Legacy outlets here to ensure our dishwaters remain in stable opposition too. Where would democracy`s be without their fixed, long-term, semi-permanent, stable oppositions. Thank dog we have dishwaters like corbyn, blib stooten and pelosi to enshrine our oppositions for us.

  269. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 13, 2019 12:36 pm

    While following the UK election I came upon this interesting story.

  270. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 13, 2019 2:01 pm

    I hope the socialists in the US are taking note of the UK election. Labour may win seats in the richest parts of London, but it is losing seats in the north and midlands which they’ve held for years – Greater Manchester (Labour since 1922) is gone as are Peterborough, Leigh, Wrexham, Darlington, Stoke Central and Vale of Clwyd. And that’s just for starters.

    Is it because Corbin is a dumb socialist or a vile anti-Semite or both?

    And that is with the unlovely Boris as the candidate! Imagine if they had a truly great leader like Trump!!!

  271. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 13, 2019 2:25 pm

    This is hilarious!

    The authors of the entirely discredited Fusion GPS Dossier, the one that so many dumb leftists shredded their reputations defending, are now touting for business in the UK!

    From now on anytime any leftist party loses the first impulse will be to blame Russia. Too funny.

  272. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 13, 2019 3:16 pm

    That fish looks like Corbyn.

  273. Walrus permalink
    December 13, 2019 3:28 pm

    “Is it because Corbin is a dumb socialist or a vile anti-Semite or both?”

    Both

    But we do have an anti-Semite here as well you realise.

  274. Tom R permalink
    December 13, 2019 3:50 pm

    I heard the anti semite accusations

    What were they based on, does anybody know?

  275. Tony permalink
    December 13, 2019 4:02 pm

    A marine life expert writing for Bay Nature explained that strong storms may have forced the bulbous creatures out of their burrows and exposed to predators.

    Climate change for sure. Were those strong storms unprecedented?

  276. December 13, 2019 5:09 pm

    “If only there was some type of qualifying test for voting.”

  277. December 13, 2019 5:11 pm

    Hear hear!

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  278. Walrus permalink
    December 13, 2019 5:21 pm

    “Scotland, my home, my love, my soul, you give me hope. Not a single Tory seat in the whole country. The SNP have won in a landslide. We are a progressive country that believes in fairness, equality and compassion.”

    If the fucking joint is that important to her why the fuck does she live here ?

    Or it means Australia is “a progressive country that believes in fairness, equality and compassion.”

    Take ya pick Lefties you cant have it both ways

  279. Tony permalink
    December 13, 2019 5:29 pm

    Not a single Tory seat in the whole country.

    Yeah, might be a case of premature intoxication. Or wishful thinking.

    With all of the Scottish results in, the SNP has won 47 of the country’s 59 seats – 12 more than the 35 it won in 2017 … The Conservatives have won six seats, the Liberal Democrats four and Labour one.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/election-2019-50766014

    Also, what Walrus said.

  280. Walrus permalink
    December 13, 2019 5:44 pm

    Oh dear…………………………I wonder if back then it was also unprecedented…………….LOL

    From the Oz

    Source :Don Garden, “The Federation Drought of 1895-1903, El Nino and Society in Australia” in Genevieve Massard-Guilbaud and Stephen Mosley Common Ground: Integrating the Social and Environmental in History (Cambridge Scholarly Publishing, 2011):

    “Sparked by heat and desiccation, bushfires burned their way across large areas of the colonies, killing unknown thousands of pastoral animals and causing immense damage to public infrastructure and to private property including houses, farm buildings, crops and fences. In some places there was significant loss of human life. During the first two months of 1898 there seems seldom to have been a day when there was not a fire in the eastern colonies, especially Victoria. Much of Gippsland (eastern Victoria) was devastated, with the smoke so thick that daylight turned to dark, and offshore coastal shipping was forced to slow. Smoke from the Victorian fires even created a haze over Sydney.”

  281. Walrus permalink
    December 13, 2019 5:46 pm

    And there’s more from the Oz

    ” The drought that devastated eastern Australia from 1895-1903 (and even longer in some regions) is the most widely recognised in Australia’s European history, its importance even meriting three capitalised names – the Long Drought, the Great Drought and the Federation Drought. The reputation is deserved since that prolonged period of below-average rain was the most severe to that point in Australia’s European history, and the most profound until another sequence surpassed it from the mid-1990s. One aspect that has generally not been recognised, however, is that the rainfall deficit and its accompanying heatwaves, dust storms and bushfires, together with their huge impacts on the environment and human activities, were the result of three closely following El Niño events. The first stage ran from 1895-98, with the summer of 1897-98 suffering some of the most extreme recorded weather in Australia – heatwaves, bushfires and dust storms in the south-east (New South Wales, Victoria, Tasmania and South Australia) and cyclones in Queensland. The El Niño then subsided and switched into a mild La Niña later in 1898 before another El Niño in 1899- 1900. After a short break, there was a profound El Niño from 1901-03 which brought the most severe period of drought to many regions and is infamous for its dust storms….”

    Unprecented and Catastrophic come to mind

  282. TB Queensland permalink
    December 13, 2019 5:58 pm

    Whacking great storm just going over Brisbane … last night’s storm filled up our 5000l tank in about 30 minutes … garden is lapping this lot up right now … the ponds are overflowing …

    Amazing but the bushfire smoke still hangs over the city! (I thought last night’s storm would wash a lot of it away too …)

    Silliest argument against solar farms yesterday afternoon … they take up all the agricultural land … asked her if she’d ever seen how big open cut mines are – on arable land.

    When I asked if she had solar power on the roof she said yes – “Why” – well we don’t grow things on it! And she votes …

  283. Tony permalink
    December 13, 2019 5:58 pm

    Corbyn will be regretting that charisma bypass.

  284. Tony permalink
    December 13, 2019 6:04 pm

    If China is ready to sign a deal with the US it means they know Trump won’t lose. They also know impeachment is bullshit.

  285. December 13, 2019 7:23 pm

    If the fucking joint is that important to her why the fuck does she live here ?

    Wow. So you’ve resorted to “why don’t you go back to where you come from.”..

    ok.

  286. Tony permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:15 pm

    What a baby.

  287. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:22 pm

    Who said he lacks charisma?

    https://media.vogue.co.uk/photos/5d5456f65c728c000818140c/master/w_720%2cc_limit/original

  288. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:37 pm

    Although this is amusing in the juvenile was I prefer!

    “Monkeys that look like Boris Johnson”

    http://funnypicturesplus.com/monkeys-that-look-like-london-mayor-boris-johnson.html

  289. Tony permalink
    December 13, 2019 9:55 pm

    Greens cultist vents her indignation.

    “Our electoral system is rotten to the core”, “decades of Tory cruelty”, “hijacked the country”, “runaway climate chaos”, etc. etc.

  290. Walrus permalink
    December 13, 2019 10:21 pm

    “Wow. So you’ve resorted to “why don’t you go back to where you come from”

    No, I’m just calling her total bullshit about the “my home my love my soul “ total fucking crap .

    Just the usual bullshit from a posturing dickhead Twitter leftist

    And as TOSY pointed out she’s also a fucking liar about there being no Tory seats in her love home and soul

    Like wow

  291. Walrus permalink
    December 13, 2019 10:27 pm

    “Greens cultist vents her indignation.”

    Love it

    It was Brexit dat dun it !

    Nothing to do with policies LOL

    People from the UK and Oz Labor parties used to be smarter than this. I suppose that was before the various Teachers Federations got hold of them.

  292. Tony permalink
    December 13, 2019 10:28 pm

    ‘Corbyn says he will remain Labour leader during “period of reflection”.

    Jeremy’s the mirror man. He’s going to look into it.

  293. ivi permalink
    December 14, 2019 9:07 am

    (@smoke`em.if`ya.got`em

    Get Stuffedit Done‘, eh?)

  294. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 14, 2019 12:05 pm

    “Wow. So you’ve resorted to “why don’t you go back to where you come from.”..

    ok.”

    Not quite. She wasn’t told to go back. That would be cruel. She’s undoubtedly made the right decision about where to live. It’s just that, like most of her leftist kind, she’s a fucking hypocrite.

  295. December 14, 2019 1:14 pm

    “Just the usual bullshit from a posturing dickhead Twitter leftist”

    I think you’ll find that she’s a published author.

    “And as TOSY pointed out she’s also a fucking liar about there being no Tory seats in her love home and soul.”

    I think you’ll find that she corrected her message with the updated figures.

    Why are those on “the right” so angry all the time?

    You’d almost think you had lost.

  296. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 14, 2019 1:52 pm

    “Why are those on “the right” so angry all the time?”

    I’m not sure your premise is correct, reb. There may be a little projection there. Or maybe there are few cranky conservatives here? In any event, many studies show the opposite:

    Research Finds Conservatives Are More Happy, Generous, And Purposeful Than Liberals

    Republicans Happier than Democrats, Independents.

    40-Year Study Shows Conservatives More Likely To Live Meaningful Lives Than Liberals

  297. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 14, 2019 1:54 pm

    Also lefties are more judgmental:

  298. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 14, 2019 1:57 pm

    Some people just don’t like democracy. Now this bunch of fascists are angry:

  299. ivi permalink
    December 14, 2019 3:38 pm

    (So, self-centred, self-satisfied, self-reporting, caring’n’sharing conservative-types do, or do not, appreciate having their (jack(bootstrapp(ed) happyness burbles burst/reinforced with some, or any, external feedback?)

  300. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 14, 2019 4:12 pm

    Interestingly, conservatives are apparently healthier too. They take more responsibility for themselves..

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/unique-everybody-else/201902/are-conservatives-healthier-liberals

  301. December 14, 2019 5:27 pm

    From rectum’s link…

    “Likewise, regular church attenders are nearly twice as likely to say they are “very happy” than those who seldom or never attend, and this is consistently well-founded in a vast body of literature. So church-going, Republican conservatives are just some of the happiest, most contented folks around.”

    😆

  302. Tony permalink
    December 14, 2019 5:33 pm

    Yet those who want to believe it lap this shit up.

  303. December 14, 2019 5:37 pm

    “Interestingly, conservatives are apparently healthier too. They take more responsibility for themselves..”

    Hard to argue with that. I mean just take a look at George Christensen Clive Palmer. The sheer embodiment of healthy living.

  304. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 14, 2019 6:26 pm

    Meanwhile, here it’s Greens that are the healthiest! Probably because they tend to be young, without the stress of any responsibility.

    They’re followed by Lub/Bats

    The ALP voter’s are least healthy.

    That makes sense.

    https://www.medibank.com.au/livebetter/health-brief/health-insights/who-are-the-healthiest-voters-in-australia/

  305. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 14, 2019 6:27 pm

    Lub/Bats seems appropriate, but it’s the Lib/Nats

  306. December 14, 2019 10:19 pm

    “The final price tag of the light rail is $2.96 billion — more than $1.3 billion over its initial cost.”

    OMG where are all the cries of indignant outrage from Walrus et al…??

    Oh, it’s a Liberal govt in NSW, so I guess that makes massive cost blow outs alright then.

    🙄

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-14/sydney-light-rail-opens-after-delays-and-cost-blowouts/11766132?sf226068513=1&fbclid=IwAR15uOvzY4vFhHHswuyX_T7hGG10vbCQSMtLdaWiTDZMiuqxV7yDXW_P1m4

  307. Tony permalink
    December 15, 2019 2:38 am

    Thoughtful and considered,

  308. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 15, 2019 10:27 am

    The left is more inclined to smoke too! The bad habits of teh left!

    Results

    Compared to those placing themselves at the political centre, people with far-left political views were more likely to be current smokers (Odds Ratio [OR] = 1.13; 95% Confidence Interval [CI]: 1.01–1.26), while those in the centre-right were the least likely to smoke (OR = 0.84; 95% CI: 0.76–0.93).

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5723047/

  309. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 15, 2019 11:53 am

    The Greens want more co-operation with the ALP, that’s probably because the Greens are so very co-operative and willing to compromise!!

    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/richard-di-natale-pleads-with-labor-to-end-fractious-relationship-with-the-greens-20191212-p53jao.html

  310. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 15, 2019 4:48 pm

    “That fish looks like Corbyn”

    That is insulting to the poor fish. I wonder if it tastes as good as it looks!

  311. Tony permalink
    December 16, 2019 11:09 am

    Where’s the outrage over MYEFO? I guess we’re waiting on the Twitter/Labor talking points.

  312. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 16, 2019 11:21 am

    And it seems that illiterate people get angry about parking! And it’s Sydney, I’d have thought Queensland…

    “right a note”

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/christmas/mum-leaves-furious-note-for-idiot-diver-parked-between-parents-with-prams-spots/news-story/2f93d1cc6761b84833336e2eb8f3f7d4

  313. Tom R permalink
    December 16, 2019 12:06 pm

    Where’s the outrage over MYEFO?

    What’s to get outraged about over ‘told ya so’?

  314. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 16, 2019 12:25 pm

    “”””Where’s the outrage over MYEFO? I guess we’re waiting on the Twitter/Labor talking points.”””””

    I don’t get it? What is the story??

  315. Tom R permalink
    December 16, 2019 1:32 pm

    Sage

  316. December 16, 2019 1:47 pm

    “Where’s the outrage over MYEFO?”

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  317. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 16, 2019 1:50 pm

    Click to access bp1_bs10.pdf

    Table 4 says govt debt was MINUS 3% of GDP in 2007 ie less than zero, 13% in 2013 and 19% now. So govt debt has not doubled under the Coalition. But how do you put a number on the increase in debt under Swan?? It started at LESS THAN ZERO in 2007.

    And the day you lefties have been handed a ALP mess and cleaned it up is the day you can comment. But we were debt free in 2007 before Rudd/Swan trashed the budget

  318. December 16, 2019 2:06 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  319. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 16, 2019 3:29 pm

    I struggle to see the problem, if someone makes a statement (eg “you have committed adultery”) that is untrue and disparaging, that’s probably defamatory regardless of religion.

    What is it that loudmouth Windsor doesn’t get?

  320. Tom R permalink
    December 16, 2019 3:49 pm

    What is it that loudmouth Windsor doesn’t get?

    As much action as joyce?

  321. Tony permalink
    December 16, 2019 3:53 pm

    If Twitter thinks Labor are the better economic managers they needn’t worry. There’s another election in a couple of years.

  322. December 16, 2019 4:07 pm

    “As much action as joyce?”

    😆

  323. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 16, 2019 4:32 pm

    As much action as joyce? Very funny TomR.

    The dribbling old grifter is well past it these days, his only joy coming (so to speak) from fading memories of farmyard frolics and barnyard bonking; of rimming hot heifers and getting a big cow-patty grin.

  324. December 16, 2019 4:48 pm

    Free speech in action…

    Goodnight Karen… 😆

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  325. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2019 8:24 am

    Goodnight Karen

    Maybe they could defend themselves on religious grounds?

    Whatever happened to a persons inalienable right to be bigot?

  326. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2019 8:32 am

    I wonder if morriscum took his lump of coal as he fled the cuntry from the mess he helped create?

  327. December 17, 2019 8:34 am

    “Whatever happened to a persons inalienable right to be bigot?”

    Good question.

    I look forward to ToSY, Walrus and YoM leaping to Karen’s defence.

  328. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2019 9:00 am

    Can you imagine the outrage from the press had any other pm snuck out the cuntry for a ‘pre-xmas’ holiday (whatever the fuck that IS)

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2019/12/16/pm-scott-morrison-hawaii-holiday/

  329. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2019 9:36 am

  330. Tony permalink
    December 17, 2019 9:50 am

    I look forward to ToSY, Walrus and YoM leaping to Karen’s defence.

    Okay, I’ll bite. It can’t be any fun doing your touchdown dance on Twitter where everyone agrees with you. You need to fight with somebody who disagrees so you can show how virtuous you are.

    Unfortunately that won’t be me. What Karen said was racist and bigoted. It might even be illegal under Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act.

    http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/rda1975202/s18c.html

    So she should face any legal consequences under the act. I’m sure someone on Twitter will have already referred her tweet to the Commission. But that’s not enough for them. The twittersphere have to punish her in any other way to prove to themselves what good people they are. She’s been Cancelled.

  331. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2019 10:04 am

    She’s been Cancelled

    You mean like the guy from SBS who pointed out some harsh truths on Anzac Day, or Yasmin who did the same?

    Twitter pile ons have nothing compared to the right wing media destruction of a persons lives for ….. telling the truth

  332. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2019 10:16 am

    Are these the people that insulted an indigenous artist?

    Firstly, I have no time for those redneck views, but… I don’t know what the commercial agreements are, but franchises are expensive. Contracts would probably include an obligation to maintain the good reputation of the company.

    If they have been kicked out of franchises they paid for, that seems a little harsh.

  333. December 17, 2019 10:17 am

    “You need to fight with somebody who disagrees so you can show how virtuous you are.”

    That sounds like “projection” to me (hat tip to Splatterbottom)..

    Actually, any notion of virtue never occurred to me. I just think it’s fkn hilarious there are people like Karen and Robert around. And there’s no shortage of them either.

    The bit where Robert said “some of my best friends are black cunts” was gold.

    Anyhow, there’s now a dedicated thread dealing with the injustice handed out to Robert and Karen.

  334. Tony permalink
    December 17, 2019 10:18 am

    Twitter pile ons have nothing compared to the right wing media destruction of a persons lives for ….. telling the truth

    If you say so.🙄

  335. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2019 10:18 am

    Contracts would probably include an obligation to maintain the good reputation of the company.

    different for rugby players I guess 😉

  336. Tony permalink
    December 17, 2019 10:22 am

    That sounds like “projection” to me

    And yet you were the one “look[ing] forward to ToSY, Walrus and YoM leaping to Karen’s defence.“

    Funny how that works.

  337. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2019 10:25 am

    I repeat: Christine Nixon was crucified in the media for eating a meal on Black Saturday.

    And today: Scott Morrison is apparently away on holidays during the catastrophic #MorrisonFires.

    I wonder what the media will have to say

    Is that serious???

    How many people died on Black Saturday? How many have died in these fires?

    Nixon was in charge of an essential emergency service and left the emergency operations co-ordination centre for her dinner –

    issues such as a morning hairdressing appointment, a lunchtime meeting with her biographer and an evening dinner at a restaurant, all during the worst day of the bushfires

    Do you notice any difference?

  338. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2019 10:27 am

    If you say so

    Feel free to point out any mistakes they may have made in regards to accuracy?

  339. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2019 10:31 am

    How many people died on Black Saturday? How many have died in these fires?

    What, we’re comparing deaths now? Is that where we are?

    Do you notice any difference?

    Yes, one is still in the cuntry. Oh, and she didn’t ‘leave a meeting for dinner’. They all stopped cos … food n shit

    Is it because Corbin is a dumb socialist or a vile anti-Semite or both?

    still curious, why is corbin anti-semetic?

  340. Tony permalink
    December 17, 2019 10:34 am

    Feel free to point out any mistakes they may have made in regards to accuracy?

    Hmmm. “Twitter pile ons have nothing compared to the right wing media destruction of a persons lives for ….. telling the truth” … is an opinion. It doesn’t contain any facts therefore can’t be judged on “accuracy”.

  341. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2019 10:47 am

    What, we’re comparing deaths now?

    Well, this may come as a big surprise to you!! But..when 180 people die in fires, that’s more serious then when none (ie zero or 0.0 ) die in fires.

    Yes, zero fatalities isn’t quite as much of a crisis as 180 fatalities, that may be odd to you.

  342. December 17, 2019 10:49 am

    “Nixon was in charge of an essential emergency service and left the emergency operations co-ordination centre for her dinner”

    I think she had a pub meal; a parma and chips.

    I’m not sure I’d call that dinner.

    Greasy muck maybe, but not dinner. Certainly not in the reb household anyway.

  343. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2019 11:04 am

    telling the truth” … is an opinion.

    facepalm. I guess you misunderstood the ‘they’ bit. It was in reference to those who made the Anzac day comments, and their accuracy

    zero fatalities

    Our medias doing a grand job of keeping the ignorant … ignorant.

    The Rural Fire Service, meanwhile, has confirmed more than 720 homes have been destroyed by bushfires so far this season, in which six lives have already been lost.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/more-than-720-homes-lost-in-nsw-fires-as-sydney-told-to-brace-for-huge-losses-20191211-p53iv5.html

    And Yep, now we’re comparing deaths, how grand [sarc] (for the slower ones)

  344. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2019 11:18 am

    Yes, it may have been understandable to pop out to a restaurant that provided food worth eating! But Christine Nixon had probably prepaid for an all you can eat buffet.

    And there’s no way she would pass on that!

  345. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2019 11:27 am

    Yes, between mid October and mid November, 6 people died, a genuine tragedy, less than a weekend road toll, which is also a tragedy.

    Do you see even a little difference when 30 times as many people die in fires on a single day?

    That’s 180 people burned to death on a single day!

    Has there been any further fatalities during the past few weeks?

  346. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2019 11:56 am

    The Royal Commission on the 2009 bushfires (as distinct from the media) says –

    The Commission considers that Ms Nixon’s approach to emergency coordination was inadequate.Ms Nixon herself acknowledged that leaving the integrated Emergency Coordination Centre and going home at about 6.00 pm on 7 February was an error of judgment. The Commission shares this view.

    So the twitter crap is just crap, unless you think the Royal Commission was wrong.

    Click to access VBRC_Summary_PF.pdf

  347. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2019 12:01 pm

    It’s also interesting to note that in 47 recommendations of the Royal Commission, I couldn’t see anything about climate change and “taking the moral high ground”

  348. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2019 12:08 pm

    “taking the moral high ground”

    Says the deaths head warrior

  349. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2019 12:09 pm

    Former ACT Emergency Services Authority commissioner Peter Dunn says climate change is contributing to massive droughts and extreme weather events.

    “The fires in those circumstances will be difficult to control,” he told AAP.

    “The thing that comes through all the time is we need to coordinate at a national level new methods of firefighting.

    https://7news.com.au/news/bushfires/govt-missing-in-action-ex-fire-chiefs-say-c-608914

    The moral factual high ground.

  350. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2019 12:39 pm

    Actually it’s 67 recommendations from the Royal Commission, and nothing about climate change.

    But what about your bull**** in comparing Christine Nixon’s behaviour to Morrison’s

  351. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2019 1:07 pm

    But what about your bull**** in comparing Christine Nixon’s behaviour to Morrison’s

    yea, cos he’s only the pm, who has not only ignored fireys for years (in fact, used them as political tools) he actively stymied any kind of reasonable means of addressing climate change, and is now seen as a pariah on the world stage. She made an “error of judgment”

    morrisions actions are deliberate

    As talks dragged past the scheduled Friday close into Sunday afternoon, Australia was accused of “cheating” and named by other countries and conference observers as one of a handful of nations that thwarted a deal on the rulebook for the Paris climate agreement.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/16/un-climate-talks-australia-accused-of-cheating-and-thwarting-global-deal?CMP=share_btn_tw

  352. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2019 1:24 pm

    I see, so now it’s about policy, when you previously suggested it was comparing Morrison taking a holiday during a period where there have been no bushfire deaths for a month, with Nixon, who was specifically criticised for her lack of leadership on a single day when 180 people burnt to death

  353. Tom R permalink
    December 17, 2019 1:31 pm

    wow, we are back to counting deaths (very badly)

    I’m out

  354. Walrus permalink
    December 17, 2019 1:57 pm

    “…………….and named by other countries and conference observers as one of a handful of nations that thwarted a deal on the rulebook for the Paris climate agreement……””

    That’s a badge of honour that should be worn proudly

  355. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2019 2:01 pm

    Counting deaths? Do you think 180 deaths on a single day is more serious than none?

  356. Walrus permalink
    December 17, 2019 2:04 pm

    “OMG where are all the cries of indignant outrage from Walrus et al…??”

    Right hear !

    I think it is appalling actually. It would seem pretty clear that possible necessary variations (200 plus years of subground utilities) were not properly costed into the contract in the first place.

    FFS the route went past Central station. Everybody in Sydney knows there was a cemetery there once and due to it being “sacred ground” those too poor to purchase a plot in the cemetery itself would likely have their mortal remains “parked” 6 foot under outside the perimeter. And guess what they had to dig them up.

    So yes some have a lot to answer for

  357. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2019 2:04 pm

    Or perhaps I can put it like this – do you think the recent NSW fires were as serious as those in Victoria during February 2009?

  358. Know`Collusion`Teabag permalink
    December 17, 2019 6:40 pm

    There is know point fretting about what is `serious` when `optional` is much more accurate. Since the 1950s science has been warning about pollution and the primates in power have chosen to ignore the global cooling warnings. Now we get to enoy `optional` blizzard all next week. And know point fretting about bodybag counts either, as morgues around the globe have doubled their capacity in recent years. To meet expectations.

  359. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 17, 2019 7:41 pm

    They asked Christine Nixon to join the emergency chiefs for climate emergency , but it was parma & pot night.

  360. Tom R permalink
    December 18, 2019 8:24 am

    “She’s clearly made a bad judgment call. That happens to people from time to time, but this was a very serious issue,”

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2019/12/18/scott-morrison-holiday-black-saturday-attacks/

    So, goose? gander?

  361. Tony permalink
    December 21, 2019 3:57 pm

    You mean like the guy from SBS who pointed out some harsh truths on Anzac Day

    This guy?

    https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7812709/amp/Sacked-SBS-reporter-Scott-McIntyre-arrested-locked-Japan-searching-children.html

    I guess he moved to Japan because their wartime behaviour was so honourable compared to ours.

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