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Weekend Gab Fest!

January 17, 2020

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Back due to UNPRECEDENTED popular demand!

Here is an open thread where you can talk about whatever the hell you like..

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  1. January 17, 2020 10:11 am

    I wasn’t aware that McWilliams the wine maker has gone bust…!!

    How will TB cope, now that his favourite “Inheritance range” will soon be a thing of the past…??

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/consumer/2020/01/16/australia-retail-meltdown/

  2. Tony permalink
    January 17, 2020 10:17 am

    Here is an open thread where you can talk about whatever the hell you like..

    That’s ok. We already do that.

  3. January 17, 2020 10:24 am

    I know. I was just being polite.

  4. Tom R permalink
    January 17, 2020 10:25 am

    Here is an open thread where you can talk about whatever the hell you like

    As long as it’s about the weekend, right?

    (for those of youse who still have ’em)

    Weak wages growth and record high debt levels are forcing Australians to cut back on spending.

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/consumer/2020/01/16/australia-retail-meltdown/

  5. Tony permalink
    January 17, 2020 10:43 am

    I know. I was just being polite.

    That’s ok Reb.

  6. TB Queensland permalink
    January 17, 2020 11:04 am

    Awful photo …

    Chintzy, Here is an open thread where you can talk about whatever the hell you like..

    The thread is biased at the first look!

    How will TB cope …

    Hardy’s, shimples …

  7. January 17, 2020 11:06 am

    I’m glad you approve (?) ToSY.

  8. TB Queensland permalink
    January 17, 2020 11:08 am

    Weak wages growth and record high debt levels are forcing Australians to cut back on spending.

    And some turkey on ABC this morning burbling about the record ASX (it topped 7000 yesterday) and “good” retail numbers ??? … 167 businesses have dropped out of the market!

    Somebody’s playing with somebody’s fanny too much!

  9. TB Queensland permalink
    January 17, 2020 11:09 am

    Oh, christ now its a Melburnian love fest …

  10. Tony permalink
    January 17, 2020 11:16 am

    Oh, christ now its a Melburnian love fest …

    We’re civilised down here. (Besides, a bit of decorum never hurts.)

  11. TB Queensland permalink
    January 17, 2020 11:20 am

    LOL! Mexicans are not civilised they drink bloody Corona … with lemon!

    Not touching “decorum” …

  12. January 17, 2020 11:43 am

    “”Mexicans are not civilised they drink bloody Corona … with lemon!””

    I think you’ll find that’s a “Sydney thing”..

    Besides that’s a bit rich coming from you; the home of xxxx.

    This is how we drink in Melbourne..

  13. TB Queensland permalink
    January 17, 2020 1:02 pm

    This is how we drink in Melbourne..

    Yep through yer nose …

  14. Walrus permalink
    January 17, 2020 2:01 pm

    “I think you’ll find that’s a “Sydney thing”..”

    Yes it is. Generally Northern Beaches and Sutherland Shire where the true bogans have their abodes.

    It’s lime these days not lemon.

  15. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 17, 2020 2:12 pm

    Due to the hot summer last year and the high temperature upstairs I decided to try and do something about it.

    I always wondered what those whirlybird things were on roofs. Have you ever left your car in the sun on a hot day? The temperature inside is much higher than outside. Same thing happens in your roof space. It can get up to 50-60C in your roof space and then you are sleeping under this hot air all night unless you remove it. The whirlylbirds suck out the hot air and bring in the cooler air.

    Well I got the motorised version and instead of being 30C upstairs at night after a hot day it is 24C. Not as good as an air conditioner but better than nothing. I could never work out even with the windows open upstairs never cooled down during the night. One summer last year it was 32C upstairs but 22C outside. Now I know. You need to suck out the hot air in your roof space.

  16. January 17, 2020 2:16 pm

    “You need to suck out the hot air in your roof space.”

    “..”

  17. January 17, 2020 2:17 pm

    “Have you ever left your car in the sun on a hot day? The temperature inside is much higher than outside.”

    Why hasn’t this occurred to anyone before?

  18. TB Queensland permalink
    January 17, 2020 2:46 pm

    It’s lime these days not lemon.

    That’s important?

  19. January 17, 2020 3:20 pm

    If you need to ask, then you don’t know.

    This is probably more up your alley anyway TB…

    https://www.aldi.com.au/en/groceries/liquor/wine/wine-detail/ps/p/precious-earth-chardonnay-750ml/

  20. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 17, 2020 3:30 pm

    Yes Precious Earth has exploded in price. It has gone from $2.80 to $2.99.

    Actually how do they make a profit on such a low price? PE always sells out quickly, both Red and White at the ALDI store I shop at.

  21. January 17, 2020 3:40 pm

    “Actually how do they make a profit on such a low price?”

    I can only imagine that it’s the dregs of some mass produced muck from Vietnam or Argentina, siphoned from the gutters of some nefarious “vintner” that’s really just a front for a more profitable meth lab or opium farm.

  22. January 17, 2020 3:44 pm

    “PE always sells out quickly, both Red and White at the ALDI store I shop at.”

    Probably because TB has been in beforehand and cleaned the shelves out.

    It’s popularity remains a mystery considering the reviews…

    The Donna Review:

    “Sharp in the mouth, but no flavour. Wasn’t enjoyable.”
    Wine Rating: 1/5

    Man with no Palate Review:

    “Heavy on the pallette, heavy on the fruit, heavy on the wood. This is so far the baked beans on toast of red wine. Cheap but not overly nasty.”

    Wine Rating: 2.5/5

    “Not overly nasty,” I guess is the wine equivalent of “he’s not a monster,” the most complimentary thing Peter Dutton’s wife could say about him.

    😯

    https://www.bakedbeansontoast.com/precious-earth-shiraz-2017/

  23. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 17, 2020 3:50 pm

    Nope

    Says on the bottle WINE OF AUSTRALIA/PRODUCT OF AUSTRALIA

    No matter how bad it is you cannot complain for $2.99. I am guessing the glass bottle would at least cost $1

  24. Tony permalink
    January 17, 2020 3:58 pm

    No matter how bad it is you cannot complain for $2.99.

    I suppose it depends why you’re drinking it. If it’s to get drunk for under $10 then you can always console yourself in the morning while dealing with your shocking hangover: “Yes it was like drinking nail polish remover, but look at the money I saved.”

  25. TB Queensland permalink
    January 17, 2020 4:00 pm

    If you need to ask, then you don’t know.

    Actually its, “I don’t care” … if you need to stick a lump of citrus fruit in a bottle of beer it must really taste like piss …

    Probably because TB has been in beforehand and cleaned the shelves out.

    Bloody hell, reb … wrong again … I live in Queensland (my names a clue) … we don’t confuse family grocery shopping with booze! (Supermarkets can’t sell grog)

    bottle would at least cost $1

    Another Neil guess … try about 20c … if that …

    I’ve never heard of “Precious Earth”

  26. TB Queensland permalink
    January 17, 2020 4:50 pm

    Noice … TR … where’d’ya’get’it …

  27. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 17, 2020 4:52 pm

    “”””””””””””Supermarkets can’t sell grog””””””””””””””””

    Wrong. ALDI does. I shop at ALDI because they are so much cheaper than Woolworths and Coles. There is a grog section at the ALDI I shop at the checkout. Not sure if that applies at every ALDI but it applies at the one near me

  28. January 17, 2020 4:54 pm

    Look, to be honest, who amongst us hasn’t slapped a female colleague on the arse at a work function…

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-17/politician-sam-duluk-faces-independent-probe-over-harassment/11877480

  29. Tony permalink
    January 17, 2020 4:59 pm

    She must have been asking for it.

  30. Tony permalink
    January 17, 2020 5:02 pm

    Just kidding!

    (I realised after pressing send some of the more literal ones around here might have thought I was serious.)

  31. Tony permalink
    January 17, 2020 5:46 pm

    NSW gets drought-breaking and fire-extinguishing rain. Great, if you’re a farmer or a resident of the fire-affected areas. But if you’re a climate zealot writing in the SMH, it’s a tragedy.

    Australia’s greenhouse gas emissions are likely to rise if there is a break in the intense drought in eastern Australia, sinking the Morrison government’s goal of lowering emissions in the short term … “A break in the drought could push our emissions so they are again trending upwards,” Australian National University Climate Change Institute Professor Mark Howden said.

    https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/politics/federal/drought-breaking-rain-likely-to-cause-greenhouse-emissions-to-rise-20200116-p53rze.html

  32. January 17, 2020 6:00 pm

    “She must have been asking for it.”

    LINK…..!!!

  33. TB Queensland permalink
    January 17, 2020 6:09 pm

    NEIL! DO SOME RESEARCH!

    Alcohol is not sold in supermarkets in Queensland but it is allowed in some other states.May 3, 2018

    https://theguttertrash.com/2020/01/17/weekend-gab-fest/#comment-168004

    It is time for a, “Oh, I’m sorry, TB”, from Neil …

  34. TB Queensland permalink
    January 17, 2020 6:14 pm

    Look, to be honest, who amongst us hasn’t slapped a female colleague on the arse at a work function…

    I haven’t … but a couple of ’em have slapped my arse* … reported immediately** … of course!

    *true ..

    **Just kidding …

    (I have terminated a guy for having a feel without the lady’s permission – supported by a witness)

  35. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 17, 2020 6:50 pm

    TB

    OK

    https://www.aldi.com.au/en/groceries/liquor/

    “”””””””””””””Vintages may vary from store to store. Every effort is made to ensure the current vintage is displayed, however variations can occur.
    Liquor is available in selected ALDI stores in NSW, VIC, ACT and WA. Due to liquor licensing limitations, liquor is not sold in any QLD or SA ALDI stores.”””””””””””””””””””

    So you cannot buy Precious Earth at $2.99. You are missing out on a bargain

  36. TB Queensland permalink
    January 17, 2020 7:10 pm

    NoS … apology?

  37. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 17, 2020 7:25 pm

    TB

    You said you cannot buy alcohol in Supermarkets. That is wrong because I purchase alcohol at ALDI.

    If you said you cannot buy alcohol in Supermarkets in Qld and I said that was wrong I would apologise.

    I thought you were talking about Supermarkets Australia wide. My link says U can purchase alcohol at selected stores in 3 States and one Territory at ALDI

    You said this

    “”””””””””””Supermarkets can’t sell grog””””””””””””””””

    Supermarkets can sell grog at ALDI.

    Also when I made my statement I had no idea you could not purchase alcohol at ALDI stores in QLD

  38. TB Queensland permalink
    January 17, 2020 8:19 pm

    Neil …

    I live in Queensland (my names a clue) … we don’t confuse family grocery shopping with booze! (Supermarkets can’t sell grog).

    It’s called context … I suspect everyone here understood (‘cept you) …

    Bloody forehead AGAIN!

  39. TB Queensland permalink
    January 17, 2020 8:22 pm

    IQ of a bumble bee … no, apologies to bumble bees everywhere … amoeba .. no … er, grass … bugger … HELP!

  40. TB Queensland permalink
    January 17, 2020 8:24 pm

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jan/17/australias-bushfires-could-affect-cost-and-availability-of-fresh-local-produce

    How many market gardens have been affected I wonder? Cattle, sheep and pigs I get … but veggies?

    Are we being set up?

    Just saying …

  41. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 17, 2020 8:27 pm

    Correct. You said this

    “”””””””””””Supermarkets can’t sell grog””””””””””””””””

    I purchase grog all the time at ALDI. Supermarkets can sell grog. How the hell am I supposed to know ALDI cannot sell grog in Qld?

    According to my link ALDI cannot sell grog in SA or Qld. For some reason Tasmania does not get a mention

  42. TB Queensland permalink
    January 17, 2020 8:30 pm

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/australia-will-lose-out-how-donald-trumps-new-trade-deal-with-china-will-affect-australia/news-story/d1af28d18ee1d92c507d91ed4a73350c

    Just what we want after the bushfires …

    Trump – Australia is not safe – didn’t help our tourism industry

    Trump – tramples on our farmers

    The sooner this prick disappears the better ..

    And ToM … some of us miss sparring with you …

  43. Tony permalink
    January 17, 2020 9:47 pm

    I didn’t realise Trump was supposed to be looking after Australia’s interests.

  44. TB Queensland permalink
    January 17, 2020 11:41 pm

    I didn’t realise Trump was supposed to be looking after Australia’s interests.

    So why should we look after his … withdraw all our troops from the BS in the Middle East …

    If you want to defend him … says a lot about you …

  45. Tony permalink
    January 18, 2020 9:26 am

    says a lot about you …

    Does it TB Queensland? Or does it say something about you that you want to make everything personal?🙄

  46. Tony permalink
    January 18, 2020 10:11 am

    He put the fat in fatwa.

    A morbidly obese ISIS fanatic dubbed “Jabba the Jihadi” has been captured by Iraqi forces — who loaded him onto a flatbed truck because he couldn’t fit in a police car.

    The 560-pound mufti Abu Abdul Bari, also known as Shifa al-Nima, was nabbed Thursday by an elite SWAT team of the Nineveh regiment in the city of Mosul

    Picture at link.

    https://nypost.com/2020/01/17/isis-leader-dubbed-jabba-the-jihadi-captured-in-iraq/

  47. January 18, 2020 10:32 am

    From ToSY’s link…

    “He literally looks like the world’s biggest chicken,” Gifford said.

    He doesn’t strike me as a ‘flight’ risk… 😆

    I just kill me… 😆

  48. TB Queensland permalink
    January 18, 2020 10:42 am

    What a President … what an administration … what a coincidence …

    The Trump administration took further steps on Friday towards rolling back healthier standards for school lunches in America championed by Michelle Obama, proposing rules to allow more pizza, meat and potatoes over fresh vegetables, fruits and whole grains.

    The new proposals would allow schools more flexibility, the Department of Agriculture (USDA) said in a statement, adding: “Because they know their children best.”

    Brandon Lipps, a USDA deputy under secretary, outlined new menu standards drawn up by the the Food and Nutrition Service agency. They would allow schools to cut the amount of vegetables and fruits required at school lunch and breakfasts while giving them greater scope to sell more pizza, hamburgers and french fries to students. The agency is responsible for administering nutritional programs that feed nearly 30 million students at 99,000 schools, the Washington Post reported.

    Some outlets noted the irony of the new proposals being announced on former first lady Michelle Obama’s birthday.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Or does it say something about you that you want to make everything personal?🙄

    ToSY, I made you (and others here) more than one offer last year … and personal insults aimed at me actually increased … it works both ways BTW …

    … happy to make a change starting now …

    … I await (hopefully) a positive reply …

  49. TB Queensland permalink
    January 18, 2020 10:47 am

    More good news … why does it always take so long for them to figure out?

    The head of the International Monetary Fund has warned that the global economy risks a return of the Great Depression, driven by inequality and financial sector instability.

    Speaking at the Peterson Institute of International Economics in Washington, Kristalina Georgieva said new IMF research, which compares the current economy to the “roaring 1920s” that culminated in the great market crash of 1929, revealed that a similar trend was already under way.

    While the inequality gap between countries had closed in the last two decades, it had increased within countries, she said, singling out the UK for particular criticism.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jan/17/head-of-imf-says-global-economy-risks-return-of-great-depression

  50. Tony permalink
    January 18, 2020 10:51 am

    … happy to make a change starting now …
    … I await (hopefully) a positive reply …

    No worries. And I can confidently say this: I won’t be the first one to break the truce.

  51. TB Queensland permalink
    January 18, 2020 11:12 am

    No worries. And I can confidently say this: I won’t be the first one to break the truce.

    Many thanks, ToSY … 2020 here we come!

  52. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 18, 2020 11:39 am

    TB

    Interesting Guardian link. My opinion is that we should have been running surplus budgets and reducing govt debt but Australia does not want to do that.

    I would like to comment at that article but I have been banded from posting at The Guardian. Anybody know how I can get a new email address so I can sign up again?

  53. Tony permalink
    January 18, 2020 2:49 pm

    Anybody know how I can get a new email address so I can sign up again?

    Neil, it’s questions like that which make people wonder if you’re just having a lend. In saying that, I do hope the ‘new civility’ around here also applies to you.

    (Look up Gmail on the App Store.)

  54. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 18, 2020 3:41 pm

    Well I was thinking about getting a Hotmail address from microsoft but I am not sure what problems that could cause. eg can The Guardian tell what computer is making the post? If I get a new email address but my IP address is the same can The Guardian tell? They might ban me if they see comments coming from a computer/’IP address they previously banned

    But it really annoys me I got banned from The Guardian because I got banned I suspect because people complained about my comments. Not because of abusive comments I made. And you should see what abusive comments The Guardian lets through against the Coalition. Lefties cannot tolerate a different opinion

  55. Tony permalink
    January 18, 2020 4:02 pm

    If I get a new email address but my IP address is the same can The Guardian tell?

    I doubt it Neil, but why not give it a try anyway. It won’t cost you any money, and it’s only The Guardian after all.

  56. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 18, 2020 4:22 pm

    I switched from Telstra to TPG after my first banning from The Guardian because TPG is $50/month cheaper for internet/mobile phone than Telstra. So I got a new email address and signed up again and had no problems until yesterday when I got banned again. But I suspect The Guardian can tell what computer posts come from. There is no hiding on the internet. Apparently every comment is saved forever.

    It was funny when I started commenting again because people could tell it was me but I had a new name. I had to tell people I got banned and came back with a new name.

    But I got banned because I said Swans stimulus spending is a waste of money and the Nobel prize winner Stiglitz is an idiot for saying Swan was magnificent during the GFC

  57. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 18, 2020 8:53 pm

    Another reason to perhaps not trust the experts. Last year in December they said it would not rain until April. Well it has rained in some drought affected areas.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/drought-minister-david-littleproud-scuppers-farmer-income-protection-plan/news-story/49ac0e58ec4b0f89b68a76ff3c1edcee

    There will be no relief for drought-ravaged regions over the summer, with Bureau of Meteorology officials telling a meeting of state and federal ministers there would be no significant rain until at least April.
    The ministers gathered in Moree, in NSW’s northwest, to discuss the best strategies to combat the enduring drought

  58. January 19, 2020 9:13 am

    Everyone is happy because it rained and climate change is over.

  59. TB Queensland permalink
    January 19, 2020 9:59 am

    Ah, all good then … very green here … bloody wet too!

  60. January 19, 2020 11:22 am

    “Facebook said on Saturday it was working to find out how Chinese leader Xi Jinping’s name appeared as “Mr Shithole” in posts on its platform when translated into English from Burmese.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jan/18/facebook-xi-jinping-mr-shithole

  61. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 19, 2020 1:35 pm

    Climate change is never over! The climate has always been changing and will continue to do so.

  62. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 19, 2020 1:38 pm

    “But I got banned because I said Swans stimulus spending is a waste of money”

    Neil you got banned because you are a prattling twat!

  63. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 19, 2020 1:43 pm

    “If you want to defend him … says a lot about you …”

    Indeed it does. Defending Trump is a sign of intelligence, learning and common sense.

  64. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 19, 2020 2:53 pm

    Neil you got banned because you are a prattling twat!

    Possible but I doubt it. Criticising Swans stimulus spending for not saving Australia is a no no at The Guardian. And saying Nobel prize winner Stiglitz is a fool for saying Swans stimulus saved Australia is a banning offense.

  65. ivi permalink
    January 19, 2020 3:46 pm

    (Indeed it does.

    As every acquaintance of a very stable genius comes to understand!)

  66. Tony permalink
    January 20, 2020 7:58 am

    In an interview with Sky News, Mr Albanese confirmed the party’s controversial franking credits policy that disgruntled many older voters will not be taken to next the election, although he declined to say whether it will come in a different form.

    Mr Albanese conceded that it was a “mistake” to stick with the party’s 2015 policy of a 45 per cent emissions target by 2030 at the 2019 election.

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/anthony-albanese-says-labor-s-45-per-cent-emissions-target-was-a-mistake

  67. January 20, 2020 10:31 am

    “Essentially, Australians buy and sell our houses among ourselves, bidding up the price of that little-changing stock of houses. Then we tell ourselves we’re all getting richer. Why is this anything other than damaging self-delusion? Why should the Reserve Bank be one of its chief promoters?”

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/rba-should-stop-pretending-there-is-any-more-it-can-usefully-do-20200119-p53sp7.html

  68. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2020 10:51 am

    Essentially, Australians buy and sell our houses among ourselves,

    Unless you are an investor … when you buy a “home” and then sell to buy another you buy and sell in the same market … falsely “manipulated” by the real estate industry, banks and governments …

    eg Who “invests” in a car? (Our second most valuable asset)

  69. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 20, 2020 3:46 pm

    Yep I agree with Gittins. Whatever good lowering interest rates would have already happened since they already are at record lows. But what is the problem? Unemployment at 5.3% is lower than anytime from 1983-1996 ie under hawke/keating. It was at 11% when Keating became PM

    Times are tough but they always are

  70. January 20, 2020 4:17 pm

    This scandal just keeps getting better and better….

    “Scott Morrison’s local soccer club embarked on a building project costing more than half a million dollars in October, more than a month before sport grants were announced, without having enough funding to complete the project”

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-20/scott-morrison-sports-grants-lilli-pilli/11881578

  71. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2020 4:56 pm

    More “good” news … seems the sandcastle is being slowly swept away …

    https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/cory-bernardi-resigns-as-a-senator-for-south-australia-after-13-years-in-politics/news-story/34c2adf971d4b5bfb3655e732d5c605a

    And “Scotty from Marketing” was thought up by the “snarky” Labor Party … just shows how much, Sooty from Health & Safety Equipment, is out of touch with the real world ..

  72. Tony permalink
    January 20, 2020 8:50 pm

    WOW! Precedent!

    Not exactly.

    the judgment is not formally binding on countries

  73. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 20, 2020 10:06 pm

    I just purchased some garlic cloves in brine from Aldi. Thought I might try it since the cloves are already peeled and all I have to do is crush them. However I noticed after I got home it said Product of China. Looks like we are importing more and more food from overseas just like we do for our manufactured products.

    Should I trust food products from China?

  74. TB Queensland permalink
    January 20, 2020 11:10 pm

    Not exactly.

    Precedents are not always “binding” … the concept “sets” a precedent …

  75. Tony permalink
    January 21, 2020 7:50 am

    Should I trust food products from China?

    Good question Neil.

    On the one hand. On the other hand.

  76. January 21, 2020 8:39 am

    “I just purchased some garlic cloves in brine from Aldi.”

    What were you even thinking? 😯

  77. January 21, 2020 8:41 am

    “Fibreglass head”… 😆

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  78. Tom R permalink
    January 21, 2020 9:29 am

    Isn’t it beautiful that #scomofo rejects the nickname given to him by voters of #scottyfrommarketting but was the one who initially came up with his own nickname (yea, that’s not how it works)

    Get out and shake some hands #scottyfrommarketting

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOcLo4tU8AITpSc?format=jpg&name=4096×4096

  79. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2020 9:51 am

    If these people are so “Christian” why do they lie, cheat and steal all the time?

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jan/21/bridget-mckenzies-sports-grants-program-may-be-unconstitutional-expert-warns

  80. Tom R permalink
    January 21, 2020 10:08 am

    why do they lie, cheat and steal all the time?

    Following on the great tradition

  81. January 21, 2020 2:54 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  82. January 21, 2020 3:48 pm

    It seems the RWNJ troll-army has gone back into cold-storage. Whoever is controlling them has clearly decided the government is a lost cause.

  83. Tony permalink
    January 21, 2020 4:06 pm

    Whoever is controlling them has clearly decided the government is a lost cause.

    Clearly.🙄

    Bill Shorten: We need to have a national conversation about climate policy.
    Reporter: Fair enough Mr Shorten, what’s Labor’s climate policy?
    B.S.: We’ll be announcing our policy before the next election.

  84. Tom R permalink
    January 21, 2020 4:15 pm

    You understand they did announce it

    You recall, they were the only ones who were asked, ad nauseam, how much it would cost

    Or did forget already?

  85. Tony permalink
    January 21, 2020 4:23 pm

    You understand they did announce it

    Shorten said that today.

    Albanese said on Sunday the ‘45% reduction by 2030’ policy Labor took to the 2019 election was a mistake.

    So what’s their policy now?

  86. Tom R permalink
    January 21, 2020 4:27 pm

    ‘Shorten said that today.”

    There’s probably over two years til the next election, and you want the oppositions policies ROFL

  87. Tony permalink
    January 21, 2020 4:38 pm

    There’s probably over two years til the next election, and you want the oppositions policies ROFL

    Just pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of demanding a national conversation on climate change then refusing to participate.

  88. Tony permalink
    January 21, 2020 4:41 pm

    Labor: The government is not doing enough on climate change!
    Reporter: What should they be doing?
    Labor: We’ll let you know in two years.

  89. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2020 4:50 pm

    … and you want the oppositions policies ROFL

    Again! Still!

  90. January 21, 2020 4:50 pm

    “What should they be doing?”

    🙄

  91. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2020 4:51 pm

    Just pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of demanding a national conversation on climate change then refusing to participate.

    What do you think the government would contribute to this national conversation?

    Y’know policy wise?

  92. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2020 4:52 pm

    Funny that, reb, hey? 🙂

  93. Tony permalink
    January 21, 2020 5:32 pm

    Here, read them for yourselves. (Not that hard to find. Labor’s are impossible to find because they don’t exist.)

    https://www.liberal.org.au/our-plan/environment

  94. Tony permalink
    January 21, 2020 5:35 pm

    Joel Fitzgibbon just now. “We need to do the back burning we haven’t been doing for the last couple of years.”

  95. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2020 5:38 pm

    Yep and here’s the take on “The Plan” …

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/21/scott-morrison-says-the-government-is-acting-on-emissions-is-it-true

  96. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 21, 2020 5:42 pm

    The ALP would be wise to learn from its election loss.

    1. People should be able to plan their retirement over the long term. Political parties that want to hurry to change longstanding investment structures won’t win. Maybe now the ALP will get this.

    2. The ALP should simply outline its plan to meet the Paris accord. That’s the obligation. People want to participate in the effort, not f*** the economy by leading and taking the moral high ground. **

    Suck it up ALP barrackers, the 2 critical policies you took to the last election (and argued for so vociferously) are officially dumped.

    **The Liberals should also outline exactly how they plan to meet our international obligations in a transparent and internationally acceptable manner.

  97. Tony permalink
    January 21, 2020 5:44 pm

    and here’s the take on “The Plan” …

    Not the take. The Guardian’s take.

    Reminder:

    “ As the climate crisis escalates…
    … the Guardian will not stay quiet. This is our pledge: we will continue to give global heating, wildlife extinction and pollution the urgent attention and prominence they demand. The Guardian recognises the climate emergency as the defining issue of our times.”

  98. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2020 5:48 pm

    Actually this is a more useful and interesting article …

    https://www.pwc.com.au/ceo-agenda/ceo-survey/how-australias-ceos-react-to-climate-change.html

    And I read this earlier today …

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/rba-told-to-mobilise-all-forces-to-save-the-economy-from-climate-change-20200120-p53szi.html

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    “We need to do the back burning we haven’t been doing for the last couple of years.”

    Context (eg a link) helps … he may be referring to the LNP Party!

  99. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2020 5:54 pm

    Not the take. The Guardian’s take.

    Yep … News Corp have their take constantly and I mean constantly – Skynews, the prattle box, here its 4BC, with assistance from 9 and 7 … but at least the Guardian links to data and evidence …

    And as you can see above … there are many other sources in information … pretty high numbers of CEO’s are serious about the issue …

  100. Tony permalink
    January 21, 2020 5:55 pm

    Context (eg a link) helps … he may be referring to the LNP Party!

    No link. It was a live interview by Chris Kenny on Sky News. Maybe there’ll be a transcript on his website.

  101. Tony permalink
    January 21, 2020 6:00 pm

    And as you can see above … there are many other sources in information … pretty high numbers of CEO’s are serious about the issue

    If it’s such an urgent problem why is the federal opposition delaying their contribution to the “national conversation” for two years?

  102. Tony permalink
    January 21, 2020 6:02 pm

    with assistance from 9 and 7

    I beg to differ on that one. Have you watched Channel 9 lately? Don’t forget this is the organisation that swallowed up Fairfax newspapers.

  103. January 21, 2020 6:17 pm

    “Have you watched Channel 9 lately?”

  104. January 21, 2020 6:18 pm

    “If it’s such an urgent problem why is the federal opposition delaying their contribution to the “national conversation” for two years?”

    If I may go out on a limb, I’d suggest it’s because their response is immaterial given that they’re not actually in govt…*

    *Just a thought..

  105. January 21, 2020 6:21 pm

    Also, if I may humbly suggest, this Shiraz is very good drinking for the bargain basement price of $15…

    https://bws.com.au/product/18461/young-and-co-the-jam-shiraz

  106. Tony permalink
    January 21, 2020 6:22 pm

    If I may go out on a limb, I’d suggest it’s because their response is immaterial given that they’re not actually in govt…*

    By that ‘logic’, they needn’t have policies on anything. Just sit back and criticise the government. How good’s opposition?

  107. ivi permalink
    January 21, 2020 6:53 pm

    (How good’s opposition?

    Labor, Labor, Labor.’)

  108. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2020 6:58 pm

    While other real world movers and shakers take up the gauntlet …

    One of our major parties will be overtaken by a massive shift to renewables in the very near future … aimed at actually doing something rather than weasel words … talk the talk or walk the talk …

    https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/motoring/motoring-news/subaru-has-committed-to-electrifying-its-entire-lineup/news-story/565ed1817b4c0d4b3671d9e94d11740a

  109. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2020 7:08 pm

    It was a live interview by Chris Kenny on Sky News.

    Who? Where?

    swallowed up Fairfax newspapers

    For good reason … don’t let Karl’s shenanigans fool you …

    why is the federal opposition delaying their contribution to the “national conversation” for two years?”

    ‘Cause the last time they did … the LNP had pretty good run at fucking it up rather than creating a better “plan” … confused the shyte out of voters and won government to throw more taxpayer money at their mates (or possible mates) … while depriving those who need funding – the usual LNP victims the weak, the sick, the young, the old, the carers, the homeless, the disabled and the diggers …

    By that ‘logic’, they needn’t have policies on anything. Just sit back and criticise the government. How good’s opposition?

    Straight out of the LNP Electioneering Handbook even when IN government … imitation the highest form of flattery …

    Sooty from Health & Safety should be proud …

  110. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2020 7:11 pm

    V … way too much reading for voters … it needs to be reduced by 99.9% … to match the LNP site … especially the last of your links – or was that deliberate?

  111. Tony permalink
    January 21, 2020 7:18 pm

    Labor’s CO2 reduction targets at ivi’s link have been declared obsolete by Albanese, Shorten and Fitzgibbon in the last few days, but won’t say what their new targets will be. This is no longer their policy (first link, page 77):

    Adopt post-2020 pollution reduction targets, including to reduce national carbon emissions by 45 percent off 2005 levels by 2030, consistent with doing Australia’s fair share in keep global warming well below 2 degrees Celsius. Labor will base these targets on the latest advice of national and international bodies such as the independent Climate Change Authority and the IPCC;

  112. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2020 7:20 pm

    https://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/record-calls-to-act-emergency-services/news-story/136da27c31857b574d2e34eddfdf8780

    Scientists ain’t always practical … in the 1970’s my employer (the state distributor for Nissan, covered all its new vehicle storage with heavy duty shadecloth … stopped hail in its tracks … even the “golf” balls impact is reduced … my family lived in Brighton (Brisbane) when a massive hailstorm hit … I watched a fibro home opposite ours, literally ripped to shreds – roof, ceiling, interior and exterior walls … the frame was all that remained! My father who lived close by rescued a woman and her toddler from her car a complete write off and windowless when he got to them …

  113. TB Queensland permalink
    January 21, 2020 7:25 pm

    … have been declared obsolete by Albanese, Shorten and Fitzgibbon in the last few days, but won’t say what their new targets will be.

    Read above … and whatever they are … they will be better the the rag tag marketing blurb from Sooty & Co … based upon political history …

  114. Tony permalink
    January 21, 2020 7:31 pm

    “ Read above … and whatever they are … they will be better the the rag tag marketing blurb from Sooty & Co ”

    Maybe. We’ll find out in a couple of years.

  115. Tony permalink
    January 21, 2020 7:49 pm

    Part of an email from the RACV on “How to stay safe and protect your car from damage during a hail storm”.

    If a storm is forecast, move vehicles and caravans under shelter or cover with firmly tied tarpaulins. If you’re concerned about low-lying parts of your property, move them to higher ground.

    😳😳😳

  116. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 21, 2020 8:19 pm

    the usual LNP victims the weak, the sick, the young, the old, the carers, the homeless, the disabled and the diggers …

    Typical misleading and deceitful comment from a ALP supporter

  117. January 21, 2020 9:12 pm

    By that ‘logic’, they needn’t have policies on anything. Just sit back and criticise the government. How good’s opposition?

    Darling, if you cast your mind back, that was all that Tony Abbott (as opposition leader) said that his role was all about – simply holding the government of the day to account.

    Why do you suddenly expect anything more …?

  118. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2020 9:18 am

    Labor: The government is not doing enough on climate change!
    Reporter: What should they be doing?
    Labor: We’ll let you know in two years.

    Probably informed by a …………. national conversation 😉

    Oh, and to see how far back the libs have set us in regards to emissions

  119. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2020 9:34 am

    The corruption within this grubmint is so complete, it’s impossible for them to find corruption

    #scomofo is implicated in the rort, the minister herself gave her own club moeny, without revealing she was a minister, and they get one of the main rorters of pretty much everything to say if they are rorting or not.

    Perhaps Labor SHOULD be ready to take over grubmint at any time?

  120. January 22, 2020 9:46 am

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  121. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2020 9:56 am

    fibreglass head Cash steps up to help …………. make it look worst (or, closer to how bad it is)

    (probably what keating was initially referring to?)

  122. Tony permalink
    January 22, 2020 10:22 am

    Perhaps Labor SHOULD be ready to take over grubmint at any time?

    Good Idea.Let’s impeach ScoMo! Oh, wait, we don’t have those here.

    I’ll tell you what we do have: Dismissal! Just get Albo to convince the Governor General there’s a constitutional crisis. Simple.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Australian_constitutional_crisis

  123. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2020 10:25 am

    Just get the grubmint to self implode on their vacuous pile of lies 😉

  124. Tony permalink
    January 22, 2020 10:32 am

    Just get the grubmint to self implode on their vacuous pile of lies 😉

    That’s fine, but there still needs to be an election which, absent a dismissal or other unforeseen circumstances, will be in around two years. The people still get a say in who governs them – it’s not just twitter and the media.

  125. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2020 10:58 am

    The people still get a say in who governs them

    Pity the People

  126. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2020 11:17 am

    it’s not just twitter and the media.

    Nope, it’s murdoch, sports rorts, palmer, and the influence his $60million will buy to trick people to vote against their own self interests

    https://www.nation.co.ke/news/How-Raila-lost-last-two-elections/1056-5406504-li6jnwz/index.html

    (note to self: pay the infuencers, they live up to their name)

    https://www.npr.org/2019/05/24/726536757/episode-915-how-to-meddle-in-an-election

  127. Tony permalink
    January 22, 2020 11:28 am

    to trick people to vote against their own self interests

    Stoopid voters.

  128. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2020 11:40 am

    Not stoopid, but deceived

  129. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2020 12:08 pm

    Not stoopid, but deceived

    Is that a nice way of saying conned … like marketing con jobs

    He said Trivago’s conduct was “particularly egregious” as consumers may have been tricked into thinking they were getting great discounts, when in fact they were not.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-21/tirvago-mislead-consumers-on-hotel-pricing-court-finds-accc/11886096

    Lying and cheating seems to be a way of life and so many political initiators seem tied up with christian religion … I suppose its the same marketing model … ?

  130. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 22, 2020 12:47 pm

    “Deceived”

    Voter’s decided they didn’t like key policies that were uncosted. They weren’t informed of the economic impact, the effect on tax or even whether it would be effective.

    Then their was the tax change on retirees. The ALP said – “if you don’t like it, don’t vote for us”

    Voters noted the advice and didn’t vote for them. It’s a complete copy out to suggest that voters were fooled or deceived.

    That ALP treated voters with contempt. So blame the ALP for the loss.

  131. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 22, 2020 12:48 pm

    “Then there…”

  132. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2020 12:55 pm

    I see the impeachment is already a Republican right wing farce … always knew the USA was full of turkeys … now its seems the USA is actually run by them …

    A sad day for true democracy … not the Septic Tank version …

    Destroys the myth about paying peanuts too …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    BTW

    Good Idea.Let’s impeach ScoMo! Oh, wait, we don’t have those here.

    Some people may like to think he is but Sooty is not the President! Praise the Lord!

  133. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2020 12:56 pm

    “complete cop out … ” 😉

    And no it wasn’t …

  134. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 22, 2020 1:03 pm

    It’s absolute nonsense to suggest voters were deceived. For that to be true, it would mean people like TB and Tom R are more insightful (or something) than other voters.

    That is clearly not the case

  135. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2020 1:06 pm

    I see, ToM’s back!

    That is clearly not the case

    Gotta link?

  136. January 22, 2020 1:07 pm

    “Then their was the tax change on retirees. The ALP said – “if you don’t like it, don’t vote for us”

    Then there was the “death tax,” which wasn’t actually “a thing,” but the Liberals campaigned on it anyway, and the Murdoch media promoted the lie and the ppl believed it.

    It’s a sad state of affairs when politicians can spruik outright lies and not be held to account.

    Or are you fine with that?

  137. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2020 1:07 pm

    It’s absolute nonsense to suggest voters were deceived.

    Gotta link?

  138. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2020 1:08 pm

    … people like TB and Tom R are more insightful …

    Tru dat!

    Off to Gold Class – 1917

    Se ya!

  139. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2020 1:11 pm

    They weren’t informed of the economic impact, the effect on tax or even whether it would be effective.

    Do you mean the libs policy? How much did that cost again?

    I mean in their answers to the press, not the reality, which, for the policy, has turned out to be zilch, since they didn’t do shit, but the repercussions of not doing shit have been enormous

  140. ivi permalink
    January 22, 2020 1:19 pm

    (Or are you fine with that?

    We settled that one fairly and clearly years ago.”)

  141. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 22, 2020 1:26 pm

    Yep, the ALP proposed an ambitious target for emission reduction. This was one of their key election commitments.

    They didn’t know how much it would cost, or what the economic impact would be. But we now know that the objective was to have Australia take the moral high ground.

    I mean…really? And reb, TB and Tom R think people were deceived into acting against their own interests!!

    That was the ALP preaching to their choir, and presuming the result was a forgone conclusion.

  142. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 22, 2020 1:31 pm

    And I’d like to know which of the top 10 emitters are likely to change their policies due to Australia “taking the moral high ground”

    The ALP policy was wishful thinking combined with arrogance

  143. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2020 1:33 pm

    And reb, TB and Tom R think people were deceived into acting against their own interests!!

    yea, palmer spent $60million cos he likes his head on facebook ads, right 😉

  144. Tony permalink
    January 22, 2020 1:36 pm

    And if Labor’s policies were so good, why have they said they won’t be taking their franking credits policy to the next election, and that it was a mistake to take a 45% emissions reduction target to the 2019 election?

    The voters weren’t deceived by Murdoch and Palmer. They were frightened by Labor’s policies.

  145. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2020 1:36 pm

    Hey, at least the #crimeminister stopped people calling him #ScottyfromMarketing (for the time being at least)

  146. January 22, 2020 1:36 pm

    “And reb, TB and Tom R think people were deceived into acting against their own interests!!”

    I’m sorry but WTAF are you on about…..?

    I’m talking about the Death Tax. If you think that was Labor’s policy at the last election then you’ll no doubt be able to furnish a link to confirm it.

    I’ll just put the kettle on.

  147. January 22, 2020 1:39 pm

    Doesn’t Peter Van Onselen write for The Australian?

    Why hasn’t he been cited for treason for publishing such outlandish claims….??!!

    Doesn’t he know it’s only corruption and rorting when Labor teh Unions do it.

    When it’s the LNP it’s called “supporting the local community” …. 🙄

  148. Tony permalink
    January 22, 2020 1:49 pm

    Why hasn’t he been cited for treason for publishing such outlandish claims….??!!

    It’s a disgrace! (Probably writing for The Project’s audience.)

    When it’s the LNP it’s called “supporting the local community” …. 🙄

    And if you can pick up a few votes at the same time, everybody wins. 😉Someone should think up a name for this totally new tactic that’s never been tried before ever.🤔

  149. January 22, 2020 1:54 pm

    “Someone should think up a name for this totally new tactic that’s never been tried before ever.”

    How about “corruption.”

  150. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 22, 2020 1:55 pm

    Oh, I thought you were part of the coterie here that thinks people were deceived into voting against their interest.

  151. January 22, 2020 2:01 pm

    I’m willing to accept your apology.

    A poem would be nice.

  152. Tony permalink
    January 22, 2020 2:02 pm

    Hang on, I just found this.

  153. Tony permalink
    January 22, 2020 2:17 pm

    By the way, has that oxygen thief Mark Dreyfus referred Bridget McKenzie to the Feds yet? And if not, why not? Seems to be his modus operandi.

  154. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2020 2:34 pm

    And if not, why not?

    Buggered if I know 😯

  155. Tony permalink
    January 22, 2020 2:44 pm

    Well, if this Tweet advertising the government doesn’t conclusively prove Australia has become a fascist dictatorship, I don’t know what will.

    OMG, twitter is deranged with hate. WTF is wrong with one government agency directing people to another government agency – an agency whose purpose is “to lead and coordinate a national response to rebuilding communities affected by bushfires across large parts of Australia”.

  156. January 22, 2020 2:54 pm

    Where’s my fucking poem.

  157. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2020 2:58 pm

    how the government is helping Australian families, communities, wildlife and businesses rebuild and recover.

    Sounds like an ad to me, from an ‘allegedly’ independent organisation

  158. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 22, 2020 3:00 pm

    I’m working on a poem…

    https://www.rhymezone.com/r/rhyme.cgi?Word=Fuck off&typeofrhyme=perfect

  159. Tony permalink
    January 22, 2020 3:12 pm

    Sounds like an ad to me

    Of course it does.🙄

  160. Tom R permalink
    January 22, 2020 4:20 pm

    I’m working on a poem…

  161. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2020 5:42 pm

    And I’d like to know which of the top 10 emitters are likely to change their policies due to Australia “taking the moral high ground”

    Just been reading a story about anti-vaxxers … your comment’s “tone” sounds so familiar …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Of course it does. Yes it does …

    Shouldn’t this organisation be advising rather than this organisation … https://twitter.com/AusFedPolice

    Glad see you agree too … 🙂

    TR, very noice, but I think reb, means a poem from, ToM the Piper’s Son … ahhh!

  162. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2020 5:47 pm

    LOL! @ TR!

    Just finished The Witcher too!

  163. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 22, 2020 6:33 pm

    The rhyme was supposed to be with f*** off, because that’s my preferred apology.

  164. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 22, 2020 7:03 pm

    Just been reading a story about anti-vaxxers … your comment’s “tone” sounds so familiar …

    That’s a totally fucking stupid reply

    That’s really interesting TB, what makes you say that?

  165. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2020 7:15 pm

    LOL! @ ToM!

    Don’t care what you write,
    Or the cut of your cloth,
    Don’t care that its right
    So just fuck off

    TB Queensland © 2020

    How fucking easy is it ToM!

  166. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2020 7:18 pm

    Whoo! Interesting!

    https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/prime-minister-send-sports-scandal-to-department-boss/news-story/0fad884588397fa0502722c4e1a5299d

    Nah! It’s alright, it’s alright … $10 its another fizzler!

  167. TB Queensland permalink
    January 22, 2020 7:36 pm

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/feb/12/facebook-anti-vaxxer-vaccination-groups-pressure-misinformation

    Just been reading a story about anti-vaxxers … your comment’s “tone” sounds so familiar …

    That’s a totally fucking stupid reply

    Why? … spreading “disinformation” has become the MO of right wing politics across the world – and its working … its no longer about society, science and truth … its about power, control and profit (not necessarily in that order).

    Hitler rose to power because the German people were being screwed after WWI by France in particular … inflation of 1000% a DAY didn’t help Germans (or the French people) but seemed to satisfy the bitter French Government … and created a saviour – who turned out to be a monster … just as Stalin did in Russia …

    Farting around with democracy and allowing arsehole dictators to take over helps no-one … HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF …

    During a similar conversation (about the global economy) with a friend (of many years) … he said, “but will that affect us” … I said, “personally, no … but millions of people may die” … my family is “vaccinated” against most government bullshit (in many ways) … I’d like others to be too …

    … totally fucking stupid … 😉

  168. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 22, 2020 9:10 pm

    TB, you’re the one that agreed people were deceived into voting against their interests, but as usual, you lapse into bullshit ambiguity when questions are posed.

    The ALP emissions policy was a key plank of their platform. so it’s reasonable to ask which of the top emitters might have been persuaded to change their own domestic policy because of the more ambitious ALP target?

    I really can’t see what this reasonable point has to do with your anti vaxxers comment, and certainly just saying it is “disinformation” doesn’t make it so.

    So cut the bullshit obfuscation.

  169. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 5:42 am

    so it’s reasonable to ask which of the top emitters might have been persuaded to change their own domestic policy because of the more ambitious ALP target?

    See, yor definition of ‘reasonable’ doesn’t really match any dictionary definition that I can come across.

    On a totally related topic

    ‘A common and in my opinion a very improvident practice, which will probably be continued, is the constant burning of the forest and scrubs. This proceeding has only a temporary beneficial effect in regard to the improvement of the pasture by the springing up of young grass in places so cleared, for after a year or so the scrub and underwood spring up more densely than ever…’.

    https://meanjin.com.au/blog/the-unlearned-country/

  170. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 5:54 am

  171. January 23, 2020 8:53 am

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  172. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 8:56 am

    lol (sob)

    You can see this going a long way, can’t you.

    #CrimeMinisterMorrison has sent it to his personal flunkies to look into, so they can find that this is all above board

    Yea, I don’t know if I’m referring to his own office, or the afp there. The title fits both.

  173. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 23, 2020 9:07 am

    That looks like the performing arts centre Scotch College built with the stimulus cash from Swan

  174. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 9:16 am

    And on behalf of all of us at the Toorak & South Yarra Ladies’ Bridge and Croquet Club, I’d like to thank the Prime Minister and Senator McKenzie for their generous help in upgrading our foyer…

    And not before time! The old foyer didn’t even use ethical marble.

  175. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 9:16 am

    built with the stimulus cash from Swan

    You mean the stimulus money that EVERYBODY got, regardless of class, voting intentions or religious disposition, that saved us from the GFC?

    THAT stimulus money?

  176. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 9:21 am

    First I laughed tosy, then I googled

    😯

    https://ethicalstoneregister.co.uk

  177. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 9:30 am

    First I laughed tosy, then I googled

    I’m not sure if You People realise – it’s not easy being outraged all the time. 😩

  178. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 9:41 am

    it’s not easy being outraged all the time.

    Oh, it is with this mob of crooks in charge of the hen house 😉

  179. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 9:53 am

    Miserable Ghost sighted:

    “One suspects Turnbull’s conversion to born-again climate evangelism is less about genuine conviction and more about ingratiating himself with the well-heeled cultural elites whose approval he has always craved.’

    “Scott Morrison would be wise to ignore his predecessor from now on. The extreme and sub-rational climate alarmism to which Turnbull now subscribes would, if taken seriously, cost thousands of jobs, jeopardise whole industries, and diminish living standards and prosperity for millions of Australians.”

    https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6125407743001

  180. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 10:02 am

    “As Prime Minister, I tried to ensure that our climate and energy policies were governed by engineering and economics, not ideology and idiocy,” he said.

    HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    I wonder if he wold ever dare say that about the NBN too ROFL

  181. January 23, 2020 10:10 am

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  182. January 23, 2020 10:10 am

    “RIP Terry Jones …”

    I guess he really wasn’t the Messiah after all.

  183. January 23, 2020 10:11 am

    Did Andrew Forrest buy a degree in climate science or can we safely disregard his feelings on the topic?

  184. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 10:17 am

    Did Andrew Forrest buy a degree in climate science or can we safely disregard his feelings on the topic?

    Depends. Did he say it on Twitter?

  185. January 23, 2020 10:29 am

    It’s kinda cute the way ToSY maligns Twitter yet posts links to SkyNews… 😆 😆

  186. TB Queensland permalink
    January 23, 2020 10:34 am

    I really can’t see what this reasonable point has to do with your anti vaxxers comment, and certainly just saying it is “disinformation” doesn’t make it so.

    Anto-vaxxers choose to believe the BS … and feed each BS … LNP spits out BS and people don’t bother researching the BS … just feed the BS on …

    Apologies that was a bit too complex for you … I’ll keep it simple in future …

  187. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 10:36 am

    It’s kinda cute the way ToSY maligns Twitter yet posts links to SkyNews… 😆 😆

    I know. I must try to use more impartial resources like The Guardian.😁

  188. TB Queensland permalink
    January 23, 2020 10:48 am

    You can see this going a long way, can’t you.

    A bit like the CEO asking the General Manager to investigate the Marketing Manager giving product samples to the CEO and Marketing Manager and her staff …

    Might be a bit complex for ToM (apologies – life ain’t simple)

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    CORRECTION, TR!

    You mean the stimulus money that EVERYBODY got

    Not everyone … we fell into a little known crack in the system … it was just over twelve months after we retired – we therefore had no income tax return registered AND were not eligible for any government assistance … neither The Minister nor I received a cent …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    … if we hold the charts upside down …

    LOL!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I guess he really wasn’t the Messiah after all.

    Well she wasn’t the Messiah’s mum anyway … but we all guessed that, hey?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It’s kinda cute the way ToSY maligns Twitter yet posts links to SkyNews… 😆 😆

    At least no-one quotes Trump … or do they?

  189. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 10:52 am

    It is interesting how different ‘news’ organisations present essentially the same story. I knew Turnbull had said something semi-controversial so googled ‘Turnbull’ then clicked ‘news’. The first page had headlines starting with SMH, then working down the page in order Nine, InDaily (whoever TF they are), ABC, The Australian (paywalled), The New Daily(!), SBS, Brisbane Times, Sky News, and The Sunshine Coast Daily.

    Most took the line that Turnbull “hits out”, “lashes”, or “slams” Scott Morrison, conforming to the acceptable mob-think. Sky News preferred the Miserable Ghost take, which is the point I wanted to make about a bitter and twisted Turnbull.

    I’ll leave it to others to link to the Morrison=bad articles.

  190. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 10:56 am

    At least no-one quotes Trump … or do they?

    My apologies. I’ll do my best to correct that egregious oversight.

  191. January 23, 2020 11:01 am

    “My apologies.”

    That’s a nice gesture, however it’s not quite a poem is it.

  192. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 11:03 am

    “I wish to register a complaint about this Python I bought not half an hour ago. He’s stone dead. He’s ceased to be. He’s expired and gone to meet his maker. He is no more. He is an ex-Python.”

    ….

    “He came from nothing, he’s gone back to nothing. Whats he lost?… Nothing!

    Worse things happen at sea ya know!”

  193. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 11:05 am

    “which is the point I wanted to make about a bitter and twisted ” skynews

    It’s a full time job fixin’ yer typos tosy 😉

  194. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 11:07 am

    Here youse go:

  195. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 11:23 am

    BTW, a couple of those media outlets (both Qld papers) preferred to bash Trump, highlighting Turnbull’s calling him the ‘world’s greatest denier’.

    Like I said, same story, different spin.

  196. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 11:27 am

    lol tosy, coming from sky news and claiming other outlets are partisan ROFL

    I’m not saying you’re wrong, the smh etc (even their abc) have gone to the darkside big time, they just don’t do the hyperbowl like murdor does.

  197. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 11:41 am

    turnbull even fails as a turn coat

  198. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 11:44 am

    lol tosy, coming from sky news and claiming other outlets are partisan ROFL

    They’re all partisan, which is fine. The only Australian media outlet that isn’t supposed to be biased is the ABC – because it’s funded by all taxpayers of all political persuasions.

  199. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 11:52 am

    turnbull even fails as a turn coat

    Which is what the Sky News article was at pains to point out. Now that Sam Maiden has said it it’s acceptable to Twitter.

    Same story, this time delivered by an ‘acceptable’ source.🙄

  200. TB Queensland permalink
    January 23, 2020 12:04 pm

    That’s a nice gesture, however it’s not quite a poem is it.

    Don’t be greedy, reb … cant’ run ’til ya walk (the talk) … I’m happy with an apology … any apology around these parts …

    And a big thanks to ToSY for being so charming … 🙂

  201. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 12:08 pm

    They’re all partisan, which is fine.

    Yet you just spent so much time whining about them?

    (this is not accepting your claim that the Guardian is partisan fyi)

    Now that Sam Maiden has said it it’s acceptable to Twitter.

    😯 (yea, check the date brainiac 😉 )

  202. January 23, 2020 12:08 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  203. ivi permalink
    January 23, 2020 12:09 pm

    (“which is the point I wanted to make about a bitter and twisted ” skynews

    It’s a little odd, I grant ye, that Sky & Co don’t remember 2016; and a firm rejection by various then-Turnbull Government, now-Morrison Government ministers, and by the usual NewsCrop (gonzo-)commentators, of any need for the Commonwealth to prepare better, or at all, for teh predicted bigger and better bushfires.)

  204. TB Queensland permalink
    January 23, 2020 12:13 pm

    Another bloody thunderstorm! Number five this week …

  205. ivi permalink
    January 23, 2020 12:21 pm

    (yea, check the date brainiac 😉

    Too late/too soon?)

  206. January 23, 2020 12:35 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  207. January 23, 2020 12:41 pm

    Oh noes, conflicting reports…. who to believe….???

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  208. January 23, 2020 12:42 pm

    If in doubt, go the Nation’s most reliable source of news…..

    #BREAKING: Bridget McKenzie is expected to resign from the frontbench by Friday afternoon, reports Sky News Political Editor @aclennell. https://t.co/q2C3A8DRB6— Sky News Australia (@SkyNewsAust) January 23, 2020

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  209. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 1:08 pm

    Yet you just spent so much time whining about them?

    Was I whining. Or just carefully documenting a particular instance where different news outlets presented the same story in totally different ways, according to their own biases? I don’t recall saying TWAWWT.

  210. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 1:09 pm

    yea, the Governments bugle will be the first to know 😉

  211. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 1:10 pm

    😯 (yea, check the date brainiac 😉 )

    Today. So?

  212. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 1:21 pm

    Today. So?

    OK Boomer

    [facepalm]

  213. January 23, 2020 1:31 pm

    Siri, show me the definition of a clusterfuck…

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  214. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 1:44 pm

    Just sack the fucken lot

  215. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 2:00 pm

    Is it just me who finds watching a conga line of lib pollies bagging charity organisations for not getting peoples donations out quickly enough a little sickening?

  216. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 2:24 pm

    Is it just me

    Probably just you. Then again I have NFI what you’re talking about.

  217. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 2:39 pm

    Then again I have NFI what you’re talking about.

    Ok Boomer 😉

  218. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 2:55 pm

    Just noticed this😂😅:

    (this is not accepting your claim that the Guardian is partisan fyi)

    There are none so blind as those that will not see.

  219. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 3:21 pm

    There are none so blind as those that will not see.

    Interesting

    I recall years ago, everyone bagged me cos I said murdor and his winged monkeys were all partisan hacks

    Now you wear it with pride.

    And claim anything that isn’t fawning over this shitsteam of a grubmint it partisan the other way.

    Perhaps, just perhaps, there are some outlets that just want to print the facts of the matter. And just want to print what the experts in the field have to say, instead of invested players, and that this is in reality nothing but a s shitsteam of a grubmint

  220. TB Queensland permalink
    January 23, 2020 3:21 pm

    Ok Boomer 😉

    I could take exception to that language … but seeing as everyone’s being so nice around here …

    but McCormack said that he’s worried about how that might open the door to Barnaby Joyce

    That must be the most intelligent thing Macca has ever said … pity that in context it makes look like a bigger dork than ever … is there only three members of the Nats now?

  221. TB Queensland permalink
    January 23, 2020 3:24 pm

    and that this is in reality nothing but a s shitsteam of a grubmint

    Who runs the diarrhea department?

    Duttons in charge of Constipation …

    Frydenberg is Toilet Paper

    Tudge for Fudge …

  222. TB Queensland permalink
    January 23, 2020 3:30 pm

    The number of people working full-time fell in December, but Australia’s jobless rate still improved by a tenth of a percentage point to 5.1 per cent, according to employment figures.

    NO … it did not improve … full-time jobs generally include at least six hour a day, five days a week

    Who writes this shite …

    Exactly what TR has been saying … partisan BS

  223. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 3:37 pm

    For the slower ones

  224. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 4:21 pm

    Who writes this shite …

    Hard to say,😉

  225. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 4:26 pm

    Perhaps, just perhaps, there are some outlets that just want to print the facts of the matter.

    Who are these particular outlets, so pure and unwavering? Please name names so we all may know.

  226. Tom R permalink
    January 23, 2020 4:29 pm

    Guardian and the Saturday Paper are about the only two I can think of. Not perfect, but they at least try

  227. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 4:39 pm

    Guardian and the Saturday Paper are about the only two I can think of. Not perfect, but they at least try.

    Riiiight. Two out of how many hundreds of media outlets in this country? And they’re ‘not perfect’?

    Think I’ll stick to my theory. They’re all biased.

  228. TB Queensland permalink
    January 23, 2020 6:02 pm

    Two out of how many hundreds of media outlets in this country?

    Last I heard News Corpse owned 70% of ’em …

    This guy would be smouldering* in his grave I reckon!

    https://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/murdoch_keith_arthur_sir

    *poetic licence (reb’s keen on that)

  229. TB Queensland permalink
    January 23, 2020 6:03 pm

    TR add The New Daily (TND)

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/

  230. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 6:13 pm

    Last I heard News Corpse owned 70% of ’em …

    Kevin Rudd made that claim in 2013 – about ‘newspapers’ – and, according to The Conversation (one of the hundreds of Australian media outlets, as is The New Daily) – it was “factually incorrect”.

    https://theconversation.com/amp/factcheck-does-murdoch-own-70-of-newspapers-in-australia-16812

  231. TB Queensland permalink
    January 23, 2020 7:11 pm

    Wikepedia is probably more “advanced” in 2019 than theconversation in 2013 … something about checking source … my bold …

    Ownership of national and the newspapers of each capital city are dominated by two corporations, Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp, (which was founded in Adelaide but is now based from the United States) and Nine Entertainment – Murdoch-owned titles account for nearly two-thirds (64.2 per cent) of metropolitan circulation and …

    News Corp Australia owns approximately 142 daily, Sunday, weekly, bi-weekly and tri-weekly newspapers, of which three are free commuter titles and 102 are suburban publications (including 16 in which News Corp Australia has a 50% interest). News Corp Australia publishes a nationally distributed newspaper in Australia, a metropolitan newspaper in each of the Australian cities of Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide, Hobart and Darwin and groups of suburban newspapers in the suburbs of Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Brisbane and Perth. The company publishes a further thirty magazine titles across Australia.[2] According to the Finkelstein Review of Media and Media Regulation, in 2011 the group accounted for 23% of the newspaper titles in Australia.[3]

    In fact (chuckle) its difficult to find any reference to Murdoch’s MEDIA control in a Google search (makes me even more suspicious of manipulation) … that I believe is in the 70% range … newspapers are for tech deprived grey haired people not an insult there are a lot out there and they also get their “news” from 4BC andthe shock jocks – and believe it!… BUT comms are way more important than paper/radio news …

  232. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 7:19 pm

    Wikepedia is probably more “advanced” in 2019 than theconversation in 2013 … something about checking source … my bold …

    That’s fine, let’s go with your ‘more advanced’ source: 23% in 2011! lol

    that I believe is in the 70% range😂

    Czeching sauce!

  233. TB Queensland permalink
    January 23, 2020 7:43 pm

    Media ToSY … not just newspapers … AND you’re doin’ yer cherry pickin’ again … read all of the article …

    The ownership of print and broadcast media is concentrated. Leading conglomerates include News Corp Australia, Seven West Media and the merged Fairfax Media-Nine Entertainment group.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-15675260

    All right leaning organisations/bosses … I guess the Unions are too busy fighting off illegal challenges in court to fund even a radio station … that’s if it hasn’t been made illegal yet!

  234. TB Queensland permalink
    January 23, 2020 7:45 pm

    Czeching sauce!

    Clever BTW! 🙂

    Don’t go Russian into it tho’ … 😉

  235. Tony permalink
    January 23, 2020 7:52 pm

    Media ToSY … not just newspapers … AND you’re doin’ yer cherry pickin’ again … read all of the article

    Whatever TB.

    You accuse me of cherry picking. If I am, at least I’m cherry picking ‘facts’ from your source.

    What facts are you working from when you say you ”believe” “Murdoch’s MEDIA control” “is in the 70% range”?

  236. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 23, 2020 9:07 pm

    It’s a whinge from the left. The fact is that tehre is far more access to a diversity of news, political analysis and commentary than ever before. Everyone can be a political commentator, even TB.

    Just use google and you’ll see the diversity…

    https://www.google.com/search?q=current+affairs%2C+politics%2C+political+comment%2C+news&rlz=1C5CHFA_enAU820AU830&oq=current+affairs%2C+politics%2C+political+comment%2C+news&aqs=chrome..69i57.17593j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
    ———————-

    It’s about 40 years since I first visited the UK, I was amazed that each newspaper was clearly partisan. THere wasn’t even an attempt to appear non aligned.

    People bought the newspapers that reinforced their political orientation, the papers didn’t change people’s vote.

    Back then in Australia, Fairfax was left leaning and the HWT was for sport.

    These days the media tends to look a little more like that of the UK 40 years ago. It;s crap to think that the public is so easily manipulated. People just read or listen to the media outlets that they will tend to agree with.
    ——————
    And by the way, have a look at the anti Trump campaigns run by the Los Angeles Times and the New York Times. Does anyone seriously think that they are doing anything other than reflecting the politics of California, and New York State?

  237. ivi permalink
    January 23, 2020 10:36 pm

    (Yar; feel teh diversity.)

  238. Tom R permalink
    January 24, 2020 5:54 am

    Yea, apples and oranges

    accounted for 23% of the newspaper titles in Australia.

    Of course, the number of actual newpapers read, sold or given away is a different story, isn’t it.

    News Corporation is the largest newspaper publisher in Australia, with a total audited circulation of 17.3 million newspapers, according to company figures — a 59 percent market share. (Its next closest competitor, Fairfax Media, had total audited distribution of 6.3 million papers, for 22 percent of the market.)

    Let’s not forget that farfax is just a pale copy of ltdnews these days, and that before that, it was just a spruiker for the housing industry, and has always been anti-union.

    I haven’t read much of the New Daily TB, but it doesn’t seem too bad from my limited exposure.

  239. Tony permalink
    January 24, 2020 7:57 am

    Even though those figures are from 2013 – TB Queensland says Wikipedia 2019 is more “advanced” – if I owned 23% of newspaper titles but had a 59% market share, I’d be pretty happy. It would mean my newspapers are successful, that people want to read them.

    And what does it say about the other 77% of titles that, between them all, they have only a 41% market share? It says they are not attractive to a broad audience. Many of them cater to an inner city green left readership, and have no idea how the rest of the country lives and thinks.

  240. Tom R permalink
    January 24, 2020 8:37 am

    And what does it say about the other 77% of titles that, between them all, they have only a 41% market share?

    It says that most of them our out in the sticks where murdoch doesn’t want/need to push his ignorance. As you highlighted, when it comes to cities, he has a far higher ‘title’ share there. I mean, in little old Adelaide, we have one print paper, which continues to congratulate itself on being the top one lol

    It says they are not attractive to a broad audience.

    Just because he killed the competition doesn’t mean it’s a good, or popular, paper. Consider the drop in circulation he’s experiencing.

    Of course, his little deal with facebook will keep his influence over voters strong. 😉

  241. Tom R permalink
    January 24, 2020 8:47 am

  242. Tom R permalink
    January 24, 2020 8:57 am

    Fuck you right wing racist pricks, really

    The Australian Federal Police has confirmed it has dismissed an allegation author Bruce Pascoe had financially benefitted by falsely claiming he is Indigenous.

    ………..

    Prior to her letter, Ms Cashman had repeatedly questioned the legitimacy of Mr Pascoe’s Indigenous ancestry, including with Andrew Bolt on his Sky News TV show.

    Mr Bolt has himself repeatedly questioned Mr Pascoe’s Indigenous heritage.

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/claims-bruce-pascoe-lied-about-indigenous-heritage-dismissed-by-afp?cid=news:socialshare:twitter

    So fragile and precious that someone writing a historical book shatters their world. Of course Aborigines couldn’t farm, savages [sarc]

  243. TB Queensland permalink
    January 24, 2020 9:11 am

    I can see a court case comin’ on?

    With regard to the MEDIA coverage of News Corpse Unlimited … what I found frustrating was actually finding any meaningful stats after 2013 … weird …

  244. Tom R permalink
    January 24, 2020 9:16 am

    what I found frustrating was actually finding any meaningful stats after 2013

    If you don’t like the results, hide ’em 😉

  245. Tony permalink
    January 24, 2020 9:26 am

    I have no interest in whether Bruce Pascoe is aboriginal or not. However, since Tom R has raised it, Michael Mansell has a very strong views on the matter – which are probably not motivated by racism.

    https://tasmaniantimes.com/2020/01/bruce-pascoe-is-not-aboriginal/

  246. Tony permalink
    January 24, 2020 9:38 am

    This seems to be an area he’s been concerned about for a while.

    In 2001 Mansell stated that “there were more phoney than real Aborigines in Tasmania and more than half the voters in the 1996 ATSIC election were not Aboriginal”.[6] The Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre brought court challenges against the claims of Aboriginality of a number of candidates to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission.[2]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Mansell

  247. Tom R permalink
    January 24, 2020 9:39 am

    I think they meant “not Tasmanian Aboriginal”

    #justsaying

  248. Tony permalink
    January 24, 2020 9:53 am

    I think they meant “not Tasmanian Aboriginal”

    Okay, for the sake of the argument, in that article Mansell says “ABC in Hobart has on record that Tasmanian Aborigines knew for years that Pascoe is a white man.”

  249. Tom R permalink
    January 24, 2020 10:01 am

    Okay, for the sake of the argument

    yea, cos Tasmania knows about the rest of the cuntry. fuck this is some racist bullshit.

    And all because right wing racists don’t like his researched historical facts.

  250. Tony permalink
    January 24, 2020 10:06 am

    yea, cos Tasmania knows about the rest of the cuntry. fuck this is some racist bullshit.

    I didn’t think you’d go there. You’re calling Michael Mansell racist. Wow.

  251. Tom R permalink
    January 24, 2020 10:17 am

    You’re calling Michael Mansell racist.

    No, I’m calling those who are using his comments, and misrepresenting them, as racist

    I mean, dolts even been convicted of it ffs

  252. Tony permalink
    January 24, 2020 10:26 am

    No, I’m calling those who are using his comments, and misrepresenting them, as racist

    No worries. Like I said, I couldn’t care less. I’ll argue about anything.😉

    But what if it’s you misrepresenting him. I thought his article was clear and lawyerly. It’s hard not to know what he’s saying.

  253. January 24, 2020 10:43 am

    Well done Josh Frydenberg…!

    ‘Deteriorating market’: Why Kaufland pulled the plug on its Australian dream….

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/deteriorating-market-why-kaufland-pulled-the-plug-on-its-australian-dream-20200123-p53u4w.html

  254. Tony permalink
    January 24, 2020 10:53 am

    Well done Josh Frydenberg…!

    Good news for Coles and Woolworths.

  255. January 24, 2020 11:44 am

    Bad news consumers.

    * But at least we know whose side you’re on (as if we had any doubts)… 🙄

  256. Tom R permalink
    January 24, 2020 12:16 pm

    Bad news consumers.

    But Things … Can only Get Better.

    … Can Only Get Better …

    Power prices set to rise and blackouts increase as bushfire seasons become more ferocious
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-23/power-prices-rise-blackouts-increase-bushfire-season-intensifies/11890646

    DAMN WIND MILLS

  257. January 24, 2020 12:33 pm

    *bad news for consumers..

  258. January 24, 2020 12:43 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  259. Tony permalink
    January 24, 2020 1:07 pm

    * But at least we know whose side you’re on (as if we had any doubts)… 🙄

    That’s nice.

    I’m a consumer like everybody else – but I also own shares in Coles and Woolies. (If in doubt, back self interest.)

  260. TB Queensland permalink
    January 24, 2020 1:27 pm

    … but I also own shares in Coles and Woolies

    Oh Good, next time you go to a shareholders meeting could you ask why products that were two dollars cheaper a week before are “now” on special at a dollar more this week … I know its a tricky question but you will be dealing with tricky people … Aldi have a very similar product below the original (less than two dollars) permanently …

    Doncha luv competition between duopolies … even NoS has figured ’em out!

  261. Tony permalink
    January 24, 2020 1:30 pm

    Aldi have a very similar product below the original (less than two dollars) permanently

    You’re talking about wine then.

  262. TB Queensland permalink
    January 24, 2020 1:34 pm

    As I explained to NoS the other day … I can’t purchase alcohol in supermarkets ’tis illegal …

    FYI I visit Uncle Dan

  263. TB Queensland permalink
    January 24, 2020 1:35 pm

    And if you weren’t watching …

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2020/01/24/doomsday-clock-moved/

  264. January 24, 2020 2:32 pm

    “You’re talking about wine then.”

    Speaking of which….

    https://theguttertrash.com/2020/01/24/the-worlds-worst-wines/

  265. January 24, 2020 3:20 pm

    Feck…!

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  266. TB Queensland permalink
    January 24, 2020 5:34 pm

    Feck…!

    Wot? Yer Oirish neow? Isn’t the Glaswegian version fu-u-u-u-rk Jimmuy!

  267. TB Queensland permalink
    January 24, 2020 5:35 pm

    Did that guy have a weapon???

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