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The Coronavirus: Is it going to Kill Us All?

February 25, 2020

Coronavirus

Without wishing to appear melodramatic, we’re all going to die.

That’s the consensus opinion from a myriad of underground experts who have uncovered secret reports from the Chinese Government that the so-called Coronavirus is in fact man made and spreading at an alarming rate so far as yet under-reported in mainstream media.

Apparently, the Chinese Government, renowned for their transparency and front-footed approach to handling crises just like this are keeping the true spread of the virus under wraps.

Anyone who watched the 4 Corners documentary on China’s attempts to contain the virus as it takes hold in the city of Wuhan in the Hubei province will be absolutely shitting themselves.

The share market certainly is.

With news that South Korea and Iran are the next hot spots, the big question is – where will it end and how?

 

 

179 Comments leave one →
  1. Walrus permalink
    February 25, 2020 10:31 am

    “With news that South Korea and Iran are hot spots, the big question is – where will it end and how?”

    I think you will just have to wait for the Hollywood movie called “My Carona” to find out. Stay indoors until then

  2. February 25, 2020 10:40 am

    Do you think markets have much further to fall Walrus?

    What’s your outlook?

    [Asking for purely selfless reasons, of course]

  3. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 25, 2020 10:44 am

    I took the plunge and used the garlic cloves in brine which said Made in China on the bottle which I purchased from ALDI.

    If I make no more posts you know what happened

  4. Walrus permalink
    February 25, 2020 11:01 am

    Yeah I think we are pretty well fucked financially as well………….at least for a few weeks if it keeps spreading especially through Europe plus this thing also appears to have a longer incubation period in some cases so the 14 day travel bans and quarantines might be too low in which case we are fucked again..

    This time I didn’t get out. Last time I got out of a shitload I think its was 30 to 40% before it tanked last year. Then I slowly came back in but now I’m caught up in the maelstrom.

    It will come back. There are some bargains even now especially looking at Appen and Altium which have both beaten forecasts last week and today but are now getting hammered due to the general consensus.

    So I’m waiting to wade in again

  5. Walrus permalink
    February 25, 2020 11:04 am

    “I took the plunge and used the garlic cloves in brine which said Made in China”

    Have you ever been to SE Asia ?

    Yummy…………….night soil

    Try the Mexican or Spanish garlic from Harris Farms next time

  6. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 25, 2020 11:08 am

    I liked the idea of the garlic cloves in brine. They are already peeled so you just have to crush them. But since they come from China I am making sure I use them in dishes which require a lot of heat

  7. Tom R permalink
    February 25, 2020 11:11 am

    If I make no more posts you know what happened

    You took pity on us all?

  8. Tom R permalink
    February 25, 2020 11:17 am

    Hey, If ya gonna die ……

  9. Walrus permalink
    February 25, 2020 11:41 am

    In other news…………………..

    “A Mexican man has reportedly suffered a painful three-day erection after taking a sexual stimulant meant for mating bulls. According to Peruvian news outlet La Republica, the man took the substance ahead of a planned sexual encounter with a 30-year-old woman.
    But, his plan well and truly backfired and he was forced to go to hospital after his erection lasted three days.”

    https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/offbeat/mexican-man-has-three-day-erection-after-taking-bull-stimulant-ng-b881432790z

  10. Tom R permalink
    February 25, 2020 11:46 am

    The Corona Extra Virus?

  11. Walrus permalink
    February 25, 2020 1:16 pm

    So the ASX is down overall right now at minus 1.33% but the companies I named above (one of them is up 8%) have now recovered so much ground I’m overall up .7% at the moment. But all the rest of my portfolio is slightly in the red

  12. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 25, 2020 1:27 pm

    Apparently at this link you can watch the virus casualty and recovery rate in real time

    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

  13. Tom R permalink
    February 25, 2020 1:39 pm

    A RWFW blames lefties cos ………….. it’s what RWFW’s do

  14. Tom R permalink
    February 25, 2020 2:16 pm

    And, Mr Speaker, when we do things in a disciplined and responsible way, we think them through.

    [facepalm][

  15. February 25, 2020 3:02 pm

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  16. February 25, 2020 3:03 pm

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  17. TB Queensland permalink
    February 25, 2020 7:31 pm

    Apparently at this link you can watch the virus casualty and recovery rate in real time

    Thanks, Neel! Your best contribution to this blog … ever …

  18. TB Queensland permalink
    February 25, 2020 7:37 pm

    A RWFW blames lefties cos ………….. it’s what RWFW’s do

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2020/feb/25/kristina-keneally-calls-for-bettina-arndt-to-be-stripped-of-australia-day-honour-politics-live

    What planet does this zombie live on? Oh, fuck! Mine!

    What a political prostitute … this trollop thinks everyone is a “mark” … dumb shits think everyone is dumb shits 2 …

    And whatever happened to his dumber than dumb partner in dumb dogshit? Lukey Dickwit Howerth …

  19. TB Queensland permalink
    February 25, 2020 7:43 pm

    And then!

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dean-koontz-predicted-coronavirus/

  20. TB Queensland permalink
    February 25, 2020 7:47 pm

    Dick Dutton … the ultimate Australian Bushstranger! (Eat yer heart out, Neddy!)

  21. TB Queensland permalink
    February 25, 2020 8:02 pm

    Another fucking religious lefty for Dick to hang on his dunny wall!

    https://www.news.com.au/news/national/woman-22-charged-with-terrorism-offences-in-victoria/news-story/bca65eed80d5be05ecc7e48a30515a1f

    BTW … Dicky Dee … the religious nutcases (and your aggressive rednecks) usually come from the … fucking right! Enjoy Sunday with Lukey … I know where you will be and I know where I’ll be … fucking moron! (s)

    Typical dopey Queensland politicians! Only thing wrong with my state is being represented by dumb, dumber and dumbest et al!

  22. TB Queensland permalink
    February 25, 2020 8:03 pm

    Another fucking religious lefty for Dick to hang on his dunny wall!

    And for the slow witted here … that’s sarcasm …

  23. TB Queensland permalink
    February 25, 2020 8:15 pm

    Wally, didn’t the market lose 2.25% yesterday and 1.5% today? that’s an overall loss of almost 4% surely?

    So the ASX is down overall right now at minus 1.33% Walrus February 25, 2020 1:16 pm

  24. Tom R permalink
    February 26, 2020 8:30 am

    WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!

    So it’s striking when one of the points he wanted to get exactly right was this: “I think the likely outcome is that it will ultimately not be containable.”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/?utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=the-atlantic-fb-test-1316-4-&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR16kDsRgR0j3W17-nCFWUkesysVu6e8fPG_r6qPiyYRchKQ5OItADNrLIc

    spolier: we might get a flu 😉

  25. Walrus permalink
    February 26, 2020 9:00 am

    “Wally, didn’t the market lose 2.25% yesterday and 1.5% today? that’s an overall loss of almost 4% surely?”

    Yes TB I lost around 3.5% on Day 1 but yesterday I was bizarrely up .85% basically due to Appen blowing their forecasts away (above expectations).

    Today will be another bloodbath but if anything holds up reasonably well or goes up it will be Appen (they are heavily into data sets for artificial intelligence)

  26. Tom R permalink
    February 26, 2020 9:39 am

    lol

    He’s not only a monster, he’s a stupid, radical and ideological monster

    remind you of anyone?

    But Dutton told the ABC: “You can use leftwing to describe everybody from the left to the right.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/feb/25/dutton-says-leftwing-lunatics-must-be-dealt-with-as-asio-warns-of-far-right-threat?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

  27. Tom R permalink
    February 26, 2020 10:08 am

  28. TB Queensland permalink
    February 26, 2020 10:19 am

    But Dutton told the ABC:

    Was that before Dopey and his two mates escaped? (apologies to other baboons)

    And Angus Taylor is still running around freely robbing the joint!

    I know which zoo they are from!

    And in the “theme” of things …

  29. TB Queensland permalink
    February 26, 2020 10:23 am

    Without wishing to appear melodramatic, we’re all going to die.

    And while we’re at it … I’ve known that for years …

    Dean Koontz knew about the coronavirus in 1981 … ! (Warning! Anti-social media at work …) 😈

    https://sea.mashable.com/culture/9179/people-are-claiming-that-this-novel-predicted-the-covid-19-virus-did-it-really

  30. Tom R permalink
    February 26, 2020 11:09 am

    Dean Koontz also predicted, accurately, that our world is about to be taken over by goblins (ie, RWFW’s)

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/693172.Twilight_Eyes

    And, things are going swimmingly

  31. February 26, 2020 12:31 pm

    “The Australian government has activated its emergency response plan for global pandemics as the coronavirus spreads rapidly outside of China.”

    They’re going to round us all up and ship us off to Christmas Island.

    Meanwhile, all Liberal Party MPs and party members will be shipped off to Elysium.

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/australia-activates-emergency-response-plan-amid-rising-concerns-of-coronavirus-pandemic/news-story/2765714c855bee1c230691052e836aa0

  32. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 26, 2020 12:54 pm

    Those Liberals are lucky then

    Elysium or the Elysian Fields (Ancient Greek: Ἠλύσιον πεδίον, Ēlýsion pedíon) is a conception of the afterlife that developed over time and was maintained by some Greek religious and philosophical sects and cults. Initially separate from the realm of Hades, admission was reserved for mortals related to the gods and other heroes.

  33. February 26, 2020 1:13 pm

    “The Australian government has activated its emergency response plan for global pandemics as the coronavirus spreads rapidly outside of China.”

    In other words…

    They have a pamphlet.

  34. February 26, 2020 1:18 pm

    “The Australian government has activated its emergency response plan for global pandemics as the coronavirus spreads rapidly outside of China.”

    YES, BUT HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST….???!!!!

  35. Tom R permalink
    February 26, 2020 1:31 pm

    They have a pamphlet.

    Shouldn’t we have at minimum a fridge magnet?

    BUT HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST….?

    Yea, how much is going to cost NOT too (it’s an easy game to play)

  36. Tom R permalink
    February 26, 2020 1:53 pm

    And we would have got away with it too, if it wasn’t for those pesky …. scientists?

    Top scientists say for Australia to honour the Paris Agreement and limit global warming to less than two degrees, the country must reach net zero emissions before 2050.

    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/australia-must-hit-net-zero-by-2050-to-meet-paris-scientists-20200224-p543ss.html?btis

  37. February 26, 2020 2:01 pm

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  38. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 26, 2020 3:23 pm

    On the positive side regarding the corona virus, I think airfares and accommodation will be heavily discounted during the next few months, so my surf trip to the Basque coast looks fine.

    Indonesia can’t get much cheaper, so maybe I’ll stay longer.

    Iran isn’t on my itinerary.

  39. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 26, 2020 3:28 pm

    And just on the subject of vacations, here in Queensland, it’s sunny one minute and pissing down for the next 12 hours.

    The sunshine state, for 1 minute in 720.

  40. Tom R permalink
    February 26, 2020 3:50 pm

    priceless

    Apparently, morrison is “more nervous than a baboon in Camperdown”. 😆

  41. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 26, 2020 4:17 pm

    He’s not only a monster, he’s a stupid, radical and ideological monster

    Why ? Dutton has not locked anybody up. In contrast ALP/Greens locked up 50,000 boat people from 2008-2013. Of those 8,469 were children.

    Dutton actually released all the kiddies ALP locked up.

  42. TB Queensland permalink
    February 26, 2020 4:39 pm

    Those Liberals are lucky then

    Not if Matt Damon turns up … 😆

  43. TB Queensland permalink
    February 26, 2020 4:40 pm

    Shouldn’t we have at minimum a fridge magnet?

    I’m still waiting for two poems from, ToM …

    At this stage I’d accept an apology … and … an apology …

  44. TB Queensland permalink
    February 26, 2020 4:44 pm

    And just on the subject of vacations, here in Queensland, it’s sunny one minute and pissing down for the next 12 hours.

    Only Yanks do vacations … we go on holidays … and Septic Tanks and Mexicans have never understood the concept of liquid sunshine …

    Poems, please.

  45. TB Queensland permalink
    February 26, 2020 4:44 pm

    Oh, and ToM … its not all about YOU.

  46. ivi permalink
    February 26, 2020 4:46 pm

    (And in the “theme” of things …

    Coulld be….

    …where will it end and how?

    Where it began?)

  47. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 26, 2020 4:51 pm

    What’s a holiday? A day off is a holiday, a public holiday is a holiday, a trip is a holiday, annual leave is a holiday.

    Vacation is more specific.

  48. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 26, 2020 4:55 pm

    Holiday derived from Holy Day. I knew TB would prefer the term with a religious derivation.

  49. February 26, 2020 5:02 pm

    So I imagine that YoM – who was so critical of the ‘school halls’ program during the GFC, will be fucking beside himself with rage about this… No?

    “A club in Scott Morrison’s electorate was given $50,000 for a building that had already been built”

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-26/sports-grants-scott-morrison-club-got-money-already-built/12001522

  50. TB Queensland permalink
    February 26, 2020 5:03 pm

    Apparently, morrison is “more nervous than a baboon in Camperdown”. 😆

    😳 😆

    Ah, must have been Dopey, Sooty and who else escaped? So many choices … Bananaby “springs” to mind … Why ?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    And then you go and spoil it all by saying somethin’ stupid … like …

    Why ? Dutton has not locked anybody up.

  51. TB Queensland permalink
    February 26, 2020 5:17 pm

    Etymology. The word holiday comes from the Old English word hāligdæg (hālig “holy” + dæg “day”). The word originally referred only to special religious days. In modern use, it means any special day of rest or relaxation, as opposed to normal days away from work or school.

    Old English not Odd American … modern use may be a bit confusing for some …

    And especially for ToM

    https://list25.com/25-popular-holidays-with-surprisingly-pagan-origins/

  52. TB Queensland permalink
    February 26, 2020 5:21 pm

    Hey, iVi … I like the last link to quarantine … maybe they misheard and thought it was 14 days … chuckle

  53. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 26, 2020 5:55 pm

    It’s disgraceful

  54. TB Queensland permalink
    February 26, 2020 6:49 pm

    It’s disgraceful

    OK I give up .. (your poem?)

  55. Tony permalink
    February 26, 2020 8:34 pm

    Just watching Tash Sultana live at the Myer Music Bowl. She He They is pretty good.

  56. Tony permalink
    February 26, 2020 8:41 pm

    Apparently they can play 20 instruments, is non-binary, and a self-described drug addict.

    #justsaying

  57. Tom R permalink
    February 27, 2020 7:34 am

    So, they are giving out cash to buildings already built but ignoring our kids

  58. Tom R permalink
    February 27, 2020 7:46 am

    Our lawmakers are also big time lawbreakers

  59. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 27, 2020 9:09 am

    “””””””””””””””So, they are giving out cash to buildings already built but ignoring our kids””””””””””””””

    You might be right but I would like to see the numbers from 2007-2013. As usual you are just playing politics and do not care about people or the country

  60. February 27, 2020 10:38 am

    I am sure those on ‘the right’ will find reasons to justify this…

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  61. Tom R permalink
    February 27, 2020 11:58 am

    That photo is incredible reb, highlights the stoopid

    like this does

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERu7g5rUwAA9yA0?format=jpg&name=small

  62. TB Queensland permalink
    February 27, 2020 11:59 am

    I am sure those on ‘the right’ will find reasons to justify this…

    What happened to the Federal ICAC!

    Good reason to deny supply! From Angus to Josh to Sooty to the Mad Abbott to McKenzie just how long is this porky barrel? Stretches from Canberra to Eternity!

    So which Australian City has the most brainfall* …

  63. TB Queensland permalink
    February 27, 2020 12:02 pm

    That photo is incredible reb,

    Watch the 7:30 Report from last night ’tis like a really bad Yank comedy – not that there’s any good ones … look for the segment with the Lord Mayor telling us all that North Sydney “caters” for regional Aussies and International visitors and … and … and … would be funny if it wasn’t so bloody serious!

  64. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 27, 2020 12:24 pm

    Good reason to deny supply!

    Yes !! That’s what the ALP and Greens should do!
    Then if the government doesn’t crumble, they should get the Queen to dismiss them!
    Then our problems would be over.

  65. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 27, 2020 3:37 pm

    This is a type of meat I have not tried before

    https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/chinese-city-of-shenzhen-to-ban-eating-of-cats-and-dogs/news-story/3a8603ddab6978c386b5e7d568a55aac

    Officials in the Chinese city of Shenzhen have moved to ban the eating of dogs and cats in the wake of the outbreak of the deadly coronavirus.
    The city, linked with Hong Kong and known as a tech hub in China’s south east, has made the move as part of a wider “total ban” on the consumption of wild animals in China.

  66. Tom R permalink
    February 27, 2020 4:46 pm

    While we are getting racist, may as well let the libs lead the way

  67. Tom R permalink
    February 27, 2020 5:19 pm

  68. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 27, 2020 5:38 pm

    “””””””””””””We can’t block or mute those in powerful positions in the traditional media. “””””””””””””””

    What is it with you lefties and blocking people? I have been banned three times from posting from The Guardian. Each time I got banned I made my comments more polite and on topic. I would say the lefties were wrong and gave my reasons. So they blocked me.

    Leftists just cannot tolerate people with a different opinion

  69. TB Queensland permalink
    February 27, 2020 7:25 pm

    Yes !! That’s what the ALP and Greens should do!
    Then if the government doesn’t crumble, they should get the Queen to dismiss them!
    Then our problems would be over.

    Probably the most honest comment you’ve made, ToM … well done …

    Afar better reason than Fraser, Kerr and the Queen had to dismiss Whitlam … I for one would love to see the letters between The Firm’s nasty CEO and her minion Kerr …

  70. TB Queensland permalink
    February 27, 2020 7:33 pm

    This is a type of meat I have not tried before

    Are you sure?

  71. TB Queensland permalink
    February 27, 2020 7:37 pm

    @JoshFrydenberg & the Coalition today mocking Hindus in #qt. #auspol

    And yet he’ll burble about anti-semitism what fucking hypocrites …

  72. TB Queensland permalink
    February 27, 2020 7:41 pm

    What is it with you lefties and blocking people? BECAUSE YOU BULLSHIT! I have been banned three times from posting from The Guardian. BECAUSE YOU BULLSHIT! Each time I got banned I made my comments more polite and on topic. BUT MORE BULLSHIT! I would say the lefties were wrong and gave my reasons. MORE BULLSHIT So they blocked me. THANK FUCKING CHRIST!

    Leftists just cannot tolerate people with a different opinion … BULLSHIT!

  73. TB Queensland permalink
    February 27, 2020 7:44 pm

    There is no doubt that Twitter can be a hostile, even vicious, place.

    Obviously hasn’t visited TGT!

  74. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 27, 2020 8:15 pm

    “”””””””””Leftists just cannot tolerate people with a different opinion … BULLSHIT!””””””””””””

    I understand that and get the point. But I do not agree with your point.

    I get banned because lefties cannot tolerate a different opinion no matter how politely it is presented. Lefties are natural totalitarians. It is your nature

  75. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 27, 2020 8:23 pm

    PS I should also say I do understand the point. But lefties more than most people cannot tolerate a different view no matter how much evidence is presented.

    I was band because I said Howard/Costello started up a Sovereign wealth fund. The Future Fund contained $80B in 2007. $60B was for govt workers Super and $20B in 3 infrastructure funds started by Howard/Costello.

    Labor raided that $20B in those infrastructure funds during the GFC as stimulus spending destroying those 3 funds.

    I then said why start up a wealth fund when lefties see a pile of money they will just spend it

    PPS In 2009 Rudd changed the name of those 3 funds by Act of Parliament so lefties think labor started those funds

    PPPS The biggest BSers are ALP supporters

  76. TB Queensland permalink
    February 27, 2020 8:27 pm

    PPPS The biggest BSers are ALP supporters

    BULLSHIT!

  77. TB Queensland permalink
    February 27, 2020 8:36 pm

    My, that’s big pamphlet! And my goodness its got a bulldog clip holding it together … I’m referring to the little black thing on the top left corner … not Sooty – he’s the big black thing on the right!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/27/australia-declares-coronavirus-will-become-a-pandemic-as-it-extends-china-travel-ban

  78. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 27, 2020 8:48 pm

    “”””””””””””””BULLSHIT!””””””””””””””””

    No you ALP supporters mislead and deceive people. It is your main characteristic.

    You say I was banned at The Guardian because what I say is BS.

    OK first point is should someone be banned for posting BS???

    Secondly what BS have I posted?

    U made the allegation please give me some examples

  79. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 27, 2020 9:31 pm

    Yeah!

    Didn’t Keating call the Senate “unrepresentative swill”?

    So let’s make sure they stop money supply to the government!

  80. February 27, 2020 9:41 pm

    Leftists just cannot tolerate people with a different opinion”

    The fact that you’re here and posting freely kind of defeats that argument doesn’t it?

  81. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 27, 2020 9:50 pm

    Reb

    U have a point. But I suspect u have some conservative opinions. Not sure where but I am sure they do exist somewhere, I do not where

    But I was band 3 times for posting at the Guardian so that I it.

  82. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 27, 2020 9:51 pm

    In a policy backflip, the Queensland Government is promising to air-condition every school classroom, library and staffroom by mid-2022.

    What a stupid decision. Queensland will become a state of temperature wimps.

    Air conditioning in all schools, so young people will not experience what it’s like to work in a warehouse, or a mine or a factory or a construction site, or a workshop, or Bunnings…

    Stupid

    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-27/queensland-schools-to-be-airconditioned/12005398

  83. Walrus permalink
    February 28, 2020 8:48 am

    Looks like the ASX will be deep in the Red today with the Dow losing 4% overnight.

    At least this the following is a positive and may lead to a calming of the hysteria. I mean these bugs are really just a normal part of life

    Prof Mackay said the virus would become impossible to avoid…….

    “At some point in the coming months or years we’re all going to get infected because we’ve all been infected by these other endemic viruses,We already have four of these coronaviruses, mostly causing colds. We get them every year. They peak during winter but they still move around ­between us ­during the rest of the year as well. So it’s likely this might become one of those.”

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/wily-and-intelligent-coronavirus-will-hit-every-country-expert-warns/news-story/31aedbf54eed03ee29fdbf632026fefe

  84. Tom R permalink
    February 28, 2020 9:06 am

    “When you compare us to any other first-world country, in terms of the speed at which data can move and the amount of data we have to move, we’re going to be left in the dark ages.”
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/tech/2020/02/27/nbn-co-secrecy/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Morning News – 20200228

    Yep, nice work malcum. Ignored the experts and handed murdoch what he wanted. In the long run (now becoming …. now) this will hurt everybody

  85. Tom R permalink
    February 28, 2020 9:55 am

    An interesting article, that will no doubt be howled down by neo cons, because their tribe owns most of the media

    “Rather than being able to rely on revenue from advertising, “media outlets try to stay afloat via subscriptions and targeted advertising”.

    “The editorial incentives of this model are different,” Watts said. “Instead of seeking to appeal to a broad base of readers, and classifieds bargain hunters, media outlets increasingly seek to serve political tribes.

    “What drives clicks and subscriptions among these tribes are culture wars, not public interest journalism.”

    https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/feb/28/neglected-democracy-vulnerable-to-authoritarian-rule-in-era-of-disinformation-labors-tim-watts-says?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other&__twitter_impression=true

  86. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 28, 2020 10:19 am

    The media and political expression is more accessible now than ever. This place is an example.

    The old media is losing any influence it had, so I’m not sure why the left complaints so much.

    The main issue is that the ABC chooses not to reflect the range of political opinions that exist in the community. This is outrageous given that we don’t have the option of not buying it.

  87. TB Queensland permalink
    February 28, 2020 10:20 am

    I hear the pope’s sick … according to Nostradamus (and if memory serves me correctly) – this pope is the last.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Prof Mackay said the virus

    In fact there’s a chart somewhere showing that the Corvid 19 strain is not as dangerous as measles … or whooping cough, chicken pox, german measles and mumps … all the “diseases” I suffered as a seven year old (yep all in one year) …

    So while my family is preparing we certainly aren’t panicking …

    I must say I’m kicking myself a bit Wally, just before Christmas we shifted our super into “cash” – I just figured something was “due” … can’t live on thin air … so we returned to our original defensive but earning investment … that was a couple of months ago … when they find the cure/vaccination will be interesting … 😉

  88. TB Queensland permalink
    February 28, 2020 10:22 am

    The old media is losing any influence it had, so I’m not sure why the left complaints so much.

    One word BULLSHIT!

    This is outrageous given that we don’t have the option of not buying it.

    And if you can’t buy – stifle it … you sound like a supermarket …

  89. February 28, 2020 10:36 am

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  90. February 28, 2020 10:37 am

    “Looks like the ASX will be deep in the Red today with the Dow losing 4% overnight.”

    It’s already down 3.3%… !! 😯

  91. February 28, 2020 10:44 am

    “The old media is losing any influence it had, so I’m not sure why the left complaints so much.”

    ‘Scuse me but it’s not just “the left” who are complaining. There’s a guy in my office* here who’s convinced Australia’s media landscape is dominated by a left-wing agenda.

    *He’s a fervent Trump, Bolt, Coalition supporter**

    **How unsurprisement***

    *** He’s also a bit of dickhead.

  92. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 28, 2020 10:54 am

    One word BULLSHIT

    And with TB’s one word, he proves my point. Even predictable lefty types have instant access to political expression.

    It’s more accessible than at any other time.

  93. TB Queensland permalink
    February 28, 2020 11:00 am

    Even predictable RWFW types have instant access to political expression. Just a bit more than others …

    Transparency is not in the LNP Playbook … its been replaced with Theft …

  94. Walrus permalink
    February 28, 2020 11:05 am

    “It’s already down 3.3%… !! ”

    Yep and I’m wading back into it little by little. A bit of a buy there a bit of a buy over there. Gently gently I go

  95. TB Queensland permalink
    February 28, 2020 11:08 am

    Just to prove (to ToM) there are idiots on both side of the political spectrum and I adhere unpredictably on neither side if its dumb …

    Labor has succeeded in its push for a Senate inquiry into the winding up of the Holden brand at the end of the year and its far-reaching impact.

    A Parliamentary committee will look under the bonnet of General Motors’ decision to retire Holden in Australia.

    Answer: … it was a business decision 🙄

    Conclusion: What a complete waste of time and treasure …

    Positive: It keeps these dopey bastards from making decisions in the real world!

  96. TB Queensland permalink
    February 28, 2020 11:10 am

    Wally, I just checked … I can see where you bought! Just before the last slump? 😛

  97. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 28, 2020 11:14 am

    See, there is absolutely no barrier to expression of political opinion.

    So what are you bothered about TB?

    Within the private media every political orientation is freely expressed. Such as here.

    Within the media that we are all compelled to pay for, the ABC, not all political views are represented. If the ABC expects everyone to pay for it, everyone should be able to hear a voice that represents their political orientation.

  98. Walrus permalink
    February 28, 2020 11:30 am

    “I can see where you bought! Just before the last slump?”

    Nah………last time I sold I think 30% the day before the last slight correction then slowly bought back in again 2 weeks later.

    This time I got caught because I like to be long in a number of companies I like during reporting season but even though they had great results they still got smashed.

  99. Tom R permalink
    February 28, 2020 11:47 am

    See, there is absolutely no barrier to expression of political opinion.

    Some are more “barrierless”(?) than others though, aren’t they?

    It was not Twitter where more than 200,000 words were published to “socially punish” a young Muslim woman until she left the country. It wasn’t on Twitter where a commentator joked of wanting to run her over. It was not on Twitter where the war on African communities was unleashed. It was not on Twitter where a cartoon depicting one of the greatest athletes on Earth was drawn in a way which was described by some as “Jim-Crow racist” and looking like something out of a “1870s racist southern newspaper”. These are minor issues compared with some of the campaigns conducted in traditional media that have changed the trajectory of the country.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/commentisfree/2020/feb/27/the-real-bullies-who-spread-hatred-and-division-arent-on-twitter-theyre-in-plain-sight

    Besides, the point was about the partisan nature of our media landscape. Not sure if you missed that “by accident” ………….. again?

  100. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 28, 2020 12:02 pm

    I think there are people who make a career out of being contentious.

    Andrew Bolt and Yassmin Abdel-Magied are examples. Their objective is to gain notoriety by being controversial, increasing their media profile.

    Both receive plenty of hateful response. And, I think divisiveness is their objective. There’s no point in either of them complaining about the reaction they get.

  101. Tom R permalink
    February 28, 2020 12:09 pm

    Their objective is to gain notoriety by being controversial

    Except, of course, one uses facts, the other just uses hateful rhetoric and lies.

    Both receive plenty of hateful response

    The same level, from a mass media outlet geared up to attack and belittle?

    There is no equivalence there at all, to imply it is disingenuous

  102. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 28, 2020 12:20 pm

    Except, of course, one uses facts, the other just uses hateful rhetoric and lies.

    That’s an option you’re entitled to express, and is further proof that contentious political views are made in the public domain without restriction.

  103. Tom R permalink
    February 28, 2020 1:04 pm

    There was nothing ‘contentious’ about what she wrote, it was factually correct.

    bolt, on the other hand, is a CONVICTED racist in part, because he lied.

    He wasn’t just wrong. When his mistake was highlighted, he refused to change it.

  104. Tom R permalink
    February 28, 2020 1:08 pm

    Speaking of liars

  105. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 28, 2020 1:12 pm

    And the great thing about the modern media is that you can point that out (in the public domain) as often as you wish!!

  106. Tom R permalink
    February 28, 2020 1:43 pm

    yea, cos everyone reads everything some random tweets/post/likes

    Different when it is a major media outlet that is force fed onto people through dodgy, spiked algorithms isn’t it?

  107. ivi permalink
    February 28, 2020 2:00 pm

    (It’s a whinge from the left. The fact is that tehre (sic) is far more access to a diversity of news, political analysis and commentary than ever before. Everyone can be a political commentator….

    Oh. Jolly good. Carry on, then.)

  108. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 28, 2020 2:03 pm

    Really? I think you referred to the number of words on twitter to make a point.

    But you place so much emphasis in places like Sky News and The Australian.

    How many people watch Sky News? I don’t (for example)

    Yes everyone gets to express their views in the public domain these days! Political expression is readily available!

  109. Tom R permalink
    February 28, 2020 2:07 pm

    Really? I think you referred to the number of words on twitter to make a point.

    Really? I think you need to learn to read!

  110. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 28, 2020 2:36 pm

    But you see, you can make as many points as you wish about politics, it is far more available than at any time in history!!

  111. Tom R permalink
    February 28, 2020 3:12 pm

    But you see

    What does that have to do with a partisan media

    You know, the point of the article?

  112. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 28, 2020 4:21 pm

    My comment disappeared… Queensland doesn’t even have a reliable internet!
    ——
    I see that Getup has organised a campaign against Woolworths, because they advertise in the Murdoch press.

    According to Getup, these campaigns are successful, mass organised protests and boycotts exert pressure. So people have a sense of control.

    Those that don’t like the political orientation of a media outlet can choose not to consume it. And if they’re organised, they can exert considerable pressure.

    This isn’t the case with the ABC. Regardless of whether you like it or not, you are required to pay for it. That’s why all political orientations must be included in the lineup.

    Or have every presenter acting as balanced as Rafael Epstein

  113. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 28, 2020 5:31 pm

    And another thing, if Kiwis live here all their lives and don’t bother to figure out their citizenship, and are criminals…sob stories don’t wash.

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/jacinda-ardern-slams-australias-deportation-policy-during-joint-press-conference-with-scott-morrison/news-story/541f839dd9c2c8c375bec88b8544f45b

  114. TB Queensland permalink
    February 28, 2020 5:49 pm

    This isn’t the case with the ABC. Regardless of whether you like it or not, you are required to pay for it. That’s why all political orientations must be included in the lineup.

    Does this apply to politicians (or Slime Ministers) who constantly lie to taxpayers … ?

    I know how much you like questions …

    POEMS still waiting …

  115. Tom R permalink
    February 28, 2020 5:49 pm

    My comment disappeared…

    So you rewrote it to produce dribble instead?

    This isn’t the case with the ABC.

    No, they are Now() partisan. As I showed with fran kelly, and don’t get me started on “look at those toilet signs” uhlman.

    And worst, they play the game where everything is ‘optics’, not what actually happened, but how the government and their media toadies were able to present things as happening

    Remember when the ABC famously had “Red” Kerry O’Brien because he had worked in Hawkes office or something.

    There was nothing partisan about his interviewing or reporting, it was factual, and straight down the line.

    And we miss that in todays partisan rantings

  116. TB Queensland permalink
    February 28, 2020 5:54 pm

    And BTW, ToM

    So what are you bothered about TB?

    More made up crap from you … when did you “assess” my state of mind or attend medical school?

    No wonder you believe in RWFW political bullshit … you’re part of the problem – luckily, nicely contained on this blog … weren’t you spouting about cyberbullying a few months ago?

    Misleading and obtuse statements are the stock in trade of RWNJ …

  117. Tom R permalink
    February 28, 2020 5:57 pm

    It’s not surprising we want them kicked out.

    They were elected illegally

  118. TB Queensland permalink
    February 28, 2020 7:15 pm

    From Tr’s quote …

    Labor will write to the public service commissioner for advice over revelations a senior public servant destroyed notebooks which included notes taken during a hastily convened sports grant teleconference, called after the then Sport Australia chief learned of the colour-coded spreadsheets being used by Bridget McKenzie’s office to award the grants.

    I’m not a Senior PS but I still have 15+ years of work diaries … and I have been retired for 15years!

    What fkn nonsense is this?

  119. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 28, 2020 10:24 pm

    Yep, nice work malcum. Ignored the experts and handed murdoch what he wanted. In the long run (now becoming …. now) this will hurt everybody

    That sounds as deceitful and stupid as your comment that Hockey said BOO and Holden up and left.

    Auto manufacturers left for the same reason all our other manufacturers left. We don’t make anything here anymore.

    BTW in case you don’t know Holden just announced they were leaving Australia because they are getting out of the right hand drive market worldwide. There is no way Holden would make RHD vehicles in just one country/

    GMH were always going to leave and I bet U they knew that in 2013

  120. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 29, 2020 10:07 am

    For those that don’t like the way the Murdoch press reports, there are options. Have you heard of this site?

    https://www.theguardian.com/au

  121. TB Queensland permalink
    February 29, 2020 11:10 am

    In an opinion piece for The Guardian, exiled Chinese author Ma Jian said the party “always places its own survival above the welfare of the people”.

    Sound familiar?*

    “Nothing is new, nothing changes”
    Aish, Assistant Professor Cairo Museum, Tour Guide (Egypt, 1997)

    *I guess in Australia, its not necessarily, “the Party” – but themselves …

  122. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 29, 2020 2:31 pm

    “”””””””””””For those that don’t like the way the Murdoch press reports, there are options. Have you heard of this site?””””””””””””

    I was banned 3 times from posting at The Guardian. Each time I was banned I became more polite and kept my comments on topic. But lefties do not like being told they are wrong.

    So I am banned forever from posting at The Guardian unless someone can tell me how I can post again

  123. Tom R permalink
    February 29, 2020 3:02 pm

    Wonder how murdor will spin this

    I’m guessing Unions fault?

  124. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 29, 2020 3:15 pm

    “””””””””””””””””Wonder how murdor will spin this
    I’m guessing Unions fault?””””””””””””””””””

    Why don’t you admit your religion is LABOR.

  125. TB Queensland permalink
    February 29, 2020 3:21 pm

    I’m guessing Unions fault?

    Me too, but I know that LNP fiddling with the National Training System after 1992 caused all sorts of issue … Group Training organisations in particular (a sneaky way of privatising competition against state operated TAFEs have been a disaster … no employer responsibility, profit based training (virtual labour hire) and incompetent Auditors …

    And consider this a Cert IV now takes roughly three years to complete, in the 1990’s four years and my own was five years … its not just the quantity of training – its the quality … I have friends and family still in the auto trade … and they bemoan the limited competence of modern tradies …

    Quite simply the system has been failing for well over a decade and has finally broken!

    And before ToM begins bleating – I was an RTO from 1992 to 2006 … and specialised in competency based training … for managers and supervisors …

  126. TB Queensland permalink
    February 29, 2020 3:22 pm

    Why don’t you admit your religion is LABOR.

    And you talk about dishonesty … typical LNP hypocrite … 👿

  127. TB Queensland permalink
    February 29, 2020 4:38 pm

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2020/02/29/coronavirus-cases-rise-queensland-beautician/

    Is Dr Young naive or stupid?

  128. Tom R permalink
    March 1, 2020 8:22 am

    Controversial

    Or is it just facts?

  129. Tom R permalink
    March 1, 2020 10:39 am

    First facebook, now twitter. They are just becoming political tools

  130. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 1, 2020 10:55 am

    Jetstar workers have voted up their agreement despite TWU opposing it.

    And now the TWU thinks their too dumb to decide to make their own decisions – they were blackmailed.

    Of course

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/travel/jetstar-workers-accept-pay-deal/news-story/ef309a4c6c6a4623090a8376f7aefda5

  131. Tom R permalink
    March 1, 2020 12:11 pm

    Unions win workers pay rise

    yomm whines

  132. TB Queensland permalink
    March 1, 2020 12:20 pm

    yomm whines,/i>

    You sound surprised?

    BTW, expect more of it this year … enough is enough … and expect age pensioners to start realising how Abbott and Hockey dudded them …

    Eventually they all catch up …

  133. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 1, 2020 12:54 pm

    My income is entirely independent of the government, and as I’ve mentioned, last year I paid enough tax to personally employ 5 public servants. So please spare me your assumptions TB.
    —–
    Correct headline- “Jetstar workers turn their backs on mindless union militancy and accept common sense offer”

  134. Tom R permalink
    March 1, 2020 1:21 pm

    hey yomm, they went on strike

    fyi 😉

  135. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 1, 2020 1:30 pm

    Yeah! And then accepted the offer!
    Great tactics by the union

  136. Tom R permalink
    March 1, 2020 1:33 pm

    Great tactics by the union

    They got a lot more than they would have got otherwise, don’t you agree?

  137. TB Queensland permalink
    March 1, 2020 1:44 pm

    So please spare me your assumptions TB.

    What assumptions? I was talking about pensioners … not you – or me for that matter … but pensioners … your assumption, methinks as usual …

    $700 week per couple .. wouldn’t pay for your board wax …

    Just for once think about other people not yourself …

    https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/individuals/services/centrelink/age-pension/how-much-you-can-get

  138. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 1, 2020 1:50 pm

    I don’t think the company’s offer changed after the strike.

  139. Tom R permalink
    March 1, 2020 2:23 pm

    Why don’t you check before ‘thinking’ yomm?

    https://www.twu.com.au/aviation/jetstar-ground-services-protected-industrial-action/

  140. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 1, 2020 4:05 pm

    Yes , union propaganda is very informative

  141. Tom R permalink
    March 1, 2020 4:12 pm

    It is when you match up what they were fighting for against what the Union weren’t happy about not receiving in the final agreement 😉

  142. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 1, 2020 4:38 pm

    “””””””””””””$700 week per couple .. wouldn’t pay for your board wax … “””””””””””

    Its better than nothing. As long as you have paid off your home you should be able to survive. I don’t see why the govt should pay retirees $80K/year

  143. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 1, 2020 5:52 pm

    Yes. that’s ok if you have no rent to pay.

    But in any event 65 is far too young to be considered “old aged”

    I think the pension should be available for 65 year olds if they have a serious medical condition that prevents them from working. Otherwise wait until 70, and even that isn’t elderly these days

  144. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 1, 2020 9:29 pm

    Anybody want to make a prediction about what is going to happen to the sharemarkets this week?

  145. TB Queensland permalink
    March 1, 2020 10:53 pm

    So just how old are you ToM?

    How is a 65yo going to get a job? You are exactly the type to say – nah she’s too old …

    Weasel, worthless words of someone who has always had it all … typical frightened RWDH … I’ve seen people like you suddenly change their selfishness when the world suddenly goes agin them … or their family …

    LIke the judge in the US who always gave light sentences for rape … until his daughter was attacked …

  146. ivi permalink
    March 2, 2020 5:16 am

    (Anybody want to make a prediction about what is going to happen to the sharemarkets this week?

    Not really?)

  147. Tom R permalink
    March 2, 2020 7:49 am

    I love those trump pictures Ivi, and the flag even has the flu lol

    I see the press gallery is upset that Labor is better at their job than they are.

  148. Tom R permalink
    March 2, 2020 9:13 am

    I think the sharemarkets need to be renamed to the scaremarkets

  149. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 2, 2020 10:53 am

    Mayor Pete pulls the plug!

  150. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 2, 2020 11:04 am

    Presumably Pete’s withdrawal is part of the Democrat establishment’s plan to boost Biden’s vote on Tuesday. Absolutely hilarious if the addled old kiddie fiddler is the Dem candidate!

  151. Tom R permalink
    March 2, 2020 12:58 pm

    Kiddie Fiddler?

    Has been going to see Pell too?

  152. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 2, 2020 1:39 pm

  153. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 2, 2020 1:44 pm

    Also:

    “During the campaign speech, Biden, 77, described how children used to play with his blond leg hairs in the swimming pool while telling a story about his time working as a lifeguard.

    “By the way, you know, I sit on the stand and it’d get hot. I got a lot of — I got hairy legs that turn blonde in the sun,” Biden said. “And the kids used to come up and reach in the pool and rub my leg down so it was straight and then watch the hair come back up again.”

    He concluded his tale by saying, “I love kids jumping on my lap.”

  154. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 2, 2020 1:48 pm

    And this montage of molestation:

  155. Tom R permalink
    March 2, 2020 1:52 pm

    Holy shit, he’s so brazen about it too!!!!

    [facepalm]

  156. March 2, 2020 3:06 pm

    Fun Fact for Neil:

    The “financial wreckage” left by Labor in September 2013:

    Gross govt debt $273 billion

    Net Govt debt $175 billion or 10% of GDP

    Today:

    Gross govt debt $570 billion

    Net govt debt $430 billion or 21.5% of GDP

  157. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 3, 2020 8:56 am

    Seriously?

  158. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 3, 2020 9:05 am

    His family needs to intervene:

  159. March 3, 2020 9:35 am

    Question for YoM and Tosy:

    Should the govt really be acting on coronavirus without fully costing it first?

  160. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 3, 2020 10:14 am

    Heavens!! Is the corona virus a government policy??

  161. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 3, 2020 10:23 am

    So far about 3000 people have died from the corona virus, about 60,000 died from the flu last year.

    It’s interesting, and in my opinion-
    *Cost of airfares and accommodation for Bali will be about zero
    *Ditto with summer in Biarritz
    *As above for a November break in Hawaii

    The economic and tourism downturn isn’t all bad news for actual tourists.

  162. TB Queensland permalink
    March 3, 2020 10:30 am

    Global finance chiefs will discuss coronavirus from the safety of a conference call as the world economy faces it “greatest danger” since the global financial crisis.

    LOL! Yeah, normally they’d all grab the family and jet off to some expensive resort for a couple of weeks at taxpayer expense … oh, the hypocrisy!

    BTW ToM where ARE my poems?

  163. TB Queensland permalink
    March 3, 2020 10:38 am

    Today:

    Gross govt debt $570 billion

    Net govt debt $430 billion or 21.5% of GDP

    Most of the increase given away to mates, family friends and Chinese businessmen …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Heavens!! Is the corona virus a government policy??

    Looks like it … its a disaster …

    The economic and tourism downturn isn’t all bad news for actual tourists.

    Italy is nice at this time of year … and there are some very interesting religious festivals in Iran … I believe this is the best time to visit S Korea …

    https://www.selectiveasia.com/south-korea-holidays/weather

    Enjoy!

  164. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 3, 2020 10:45 am

    Thanks for the tip TB, and oddly, there is a little surf in both Italy and South Korea, and I’ve surfed both. But not this year.

    There’s not much surf in the Mediterranean, but there is a Crete Boardriders Club! How’d have thought that !!

  165. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 3, 2020 10:47 am

    Net govt debt $430 billion or 21.5% of GDP

    And in 2007 it was MINUS $40B ie less than zero. So net debt has increased by $470B since 2007. Anybody who voted for Rudd in 2007 should be in prison

  166. Walrus permalink
    March 3, 2020 10:48 am

    With so much panic buying and people like Peter Van Onselen in the Australian suggesting at least 50,000 Australians will die from the virus its only a matter of time before panic buying spreads to the ASX……………………….Invocare (INV) is a funeral services company

  167. March 3, 2020 10:57 am

    “Heavens!! Is the corona virus a government policy??”

    Heavens!! Is climate change?

  168. TB Queensland permalink
    March 3, 2020 10:59 am

    How’d (sic) have thought that !!

    I think you meant — “Who’d have thought that !!”

    🙄

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I see Kneel still follows the hard right wing core of conveniently forgetting the GFC … deceit, a cardinal sin … maybe even a pope sin!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Invocare (INV) is a funeral services company

    Chuckle … those Real Insurance ads will ramp up too … good for advertising companies … and Woollies and Coles will start their gouging programs any day soon … (oh, already?)

    Fuel gone up yet?

  169. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 3, 2020 11:35 am

    1. We’re all going to die in a week!
    2. Let’s have a 30 year plan

    Notice any difference?

  170. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 3, 2020 12:28 pm

    “”””””””””””” … deceit, a cardinal sin … “””””””””””””

    I remember the GFC very well. But did the GFC cause Rudd to drop our borders and lock up 50,000 boat people??? Labor dropped our borders because Labor does not believe in borders. Deep down the far left want one-world govt ruled by the UN. That is why lefties hate borders and let in 50,000 boat people

    ALP policies do not work

  171. Tom R permalink
    March 3, 2020 1:12 pm

    Notice any difference?

    Nope, you still can’t answer questions

  172. TB Queensland permalink
    March 3, 2020 1:52 pm

    Or write POEMS!

  173. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 4, 2020 12:17 pm

    Just for shits and giggles:

    Fox News heavyweight reporter Brit Hume tweeted a screenshot of election betting odds which also disclosed the open tabs on his browser:

    Note that the fourth tab which appears to be a link to this site.

    It could happen to anyone. Indeed for some of us it could be a whole lot worse!

  174. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 4, 2020 12:18 pm

    Third tab, sorry.

  175. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 4, 2020 3:24 pm

    Bloomie’s coronovirus tips:

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