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Fighting COVID-19 with Melania Trump

April 19, 2020

She’s long been derided as “fucken’ useless” but it appears that Whitehouse officials have found a way to put America’s ‘First Lady’ to good use with a series of public health announcements starring none other than Melania Trump herself.

While she may seem like a frosty bitch to those who don’t know her, Melania’s friend and colleague are quick to point out that underneath that cold-hearted, deadpan exterior is a fun-loving quick-witted raconteur that thrives on intellectual stimulation and solving the world’s most pressing problems.

Passionate and charismatic, Melania implores citizens of the world (ie the USA) to practice social distancing and wear a mask in public.  This hadn’t occurred to anyone before, and could be just the ticket to save millions of lives.

Thank you Mrs Trump…!

Although I think Marg Downey did it better, tbh…

 

598 Comments leave one →
  1. TB Queensland permalink
    April 19, 2020 6:10 pm

    BS

  2. TB Queensland permalink
    April 19, 2020 6:14 pm

    She argues that the reason why Sweden has a much higher number of cases in care homes than in Norway and Finland is not because of the homes themselves, but because of Sweden’s decision to keep schools and kindergartens open, and not to shut restaurants or bars.

  3. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 20, 2020 7:24 am

  4. TB Queensland permalink
    April 20, 2020 9:01 am

    That’s what I meant … sb 😉

  5. TB Queensland permalink
    April 20, 2020 9:02 am

    er, she meant … 😎

  6. TB Queensland permalink
    April 20, 2020 9:07 am

    Doesn’t Mel look sinister …

  7. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 20, 2020 9:20 am

    1. She looks about as sinister as Julia Gillard
    2. But Sweden is a Nordic country, and so civilised because they have high taxes! We have so much to learn from them!

  8. TB Queensland permalink
    April 20, 2020 9:53 am

    Whoo … we are grumpy this bright, spring morning!

  9. TB Queensland permalink
    April 20, 2020 9:57 am

    Here’s some news that should brighten your day, ToM

    In an open letter, signed by more than 100 experts by Monday morning, economists have slammed the view that there is a “trade-off between the public health and economic aspects of the crisis”.

    “We cannot have a functioning economy unless we first comprehensively address the public health crisis,” the letter states.

    “We recognise that the measures taken to date have come at a cost to economic activity and jobs, but believe these are far outweighed by the lives saved and the avoided economic damage due to an unmitigated contagion.

    “We believe that strong fiscal measures are a much better way to offset these economic costs than prematurely loosening restrictions.”

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2020/04/20/economists-letter-coronavirus-restrictions/

  10. TB Queensland permalink
    April 20, 2020 10:06 am

    And more …

    “Australia will never ‘retire’. It will continue to generate income through productive economic activity,” the authors wrote in the report’s introduction.

    “Therefore, unlike a household, the federal government can roll its debt over indefinitely, provided the nation’s economic activity continues and Australia’s productive capacity operates to its full potential.”

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2020/04/20/coronavirus-public-dept-per-capita/

    So cheer up and plan your next Surfari! 😎

  11. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 20, 2020 10:11 am

    TB, the problem is that it isn’t this generation that is funding all the government support.

    It’s so easy for this generation to spend, because it’s the next one that will pay for it.

    That’s way governments have to figure out how to start to allow people to rebuild their lives without all this government support.

    …and sniping at the wife of someone because she married a f***wit is unsatisfactory. No one has a go at your wife because she did.

  12. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 20, 2020 10:12 am

    That’s why…

  13. Tony permalink
    April 20, 2020 10:22 am

    In an open letter, signed by more than 100 experts

    One hundred university professors who are safely ensconced in their largely taxpayer funded jobs. Not one of them would have lost a dollar due to the shutdown. So, yeah, easy for them to say.

  14. Tom R permalink
    April 20, 2020 10:53 am

    lol, watching all the bleeding hearts worried about peoples jobs all of a sudden. Where were you when jobs were being slashed and replaced with part time, precarious employment, which now ….. actually means we have a large percentage of ’employees’ who are not eligible for a “job keeper allowance”

    And interesting that the libs came up with a ‘stimulus’ that just happened to require a change to employment conditions. Funny that.

    I also note that morrisons not sending his kids to school, again, still. But everyone else, it’s of to school you go!

    I gotta say, the merican accent is a lot different than I had assumed?

  15. Tom R permalink
    April 20, 2020 11:02 am

    Love to see the stats in a few weeks of a spike in cases among protesters

  16. Tony permalink
    April 20, 2020 11:41 am

    Victoria currently has 125 out of 6.5 million people sick with the virus. 125/6,500,000 = 1/52,000 of the population.

    https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-update

  17. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 20, 2020 12:13 pm

    Therefore, unlike a household, the federal government can roll its debt over indefinitely

    I don’t agree with that

  18. Tony permalink
    April 20, 2020 12:26 pm

    On Victoria’s averages you would have to put together the last four AFL grand final crowds plus an extra 33,295 to find one person who has died with the virus.

    https://m.austadiums.com/stadium_crowds.php?id=71

  19. Tom R permalink
    April 20, 2020 12:42 pm

    It’s just amazing that Australians are so distrusting of their Government that they refuse to download an app that will allow golf clubs to continue fleecing people

    So selfish, and with no reason! 😯

  20. TB Queensland permalink
    April 20, 2020 12:53 pm

    …and sniping at the wife of someone because she married a f***wit is unsatisfactory. No one has a go at your wife because she did.

    Be Careful …

  21. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 20, 2020 1:53 pm

    Careful?

    I think it’s unsatisfactory to call a woman “sinister” because you object to her husband, so perhaps TB, you should be careful with your own commentary.

  22. Tom R permalink
    April 20, 2020 2:16 pm

    Seems Ronnie has had their tweet taken down

    This may illuminate 🙂

  23. TB Queensland permalink
    April 20, 2020 2:39 pm

    I think it’s unsatisfactory to call a woman “sinister” because you object to her husband,

    I object to her for a number of reasons … because as a PUBLIC figure she abuses her position of power … as does her husband … she has access to, and uses her high profile and the public domain and that leaves her open to criticism … just like your commentary on Julia Gillard …

    The Be Careful … was because of your personal insult aimed at me via my family …
    please, don’t do that again …

    And defending Mrs Trump was not the reason you did it …

  24. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 20, 2020 2:41 pm

    Here’s something that will annoy several here!

    Councils for Kew, Hawthorn residents (and the sensational surf coast) all find it very difficult to provide basic services, like library books via post.

    Yes, councils with (allegedly) well off ratepayers don’t have the intelligence/customer service/motivation to provide a service.

    But…the council that covers places like Broadmeadows has figured out how to provide the service.

    Bizarre that an area of high unemployment, in the lower end of income can come up with a decent service!

  25. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 20, 2020 2:44 pm

    Yes TB, Trump’s wife is unelected and hardly chose to occupy her role.

    But to you that’s enough to call her “sinister”

    That’s poor form and it’s no worse for someone to suggest that your wife has very questionable judgement

  26. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 20, 2020 2:46 pm

    And I pointed that out because you enjoy making provocative comments, but get all huffy when you get a little back.

  27. Tom R permalink
    April 20, 2020 2:49 pm

    Libraries of calibre

  28. TB Queensland permalink
    April 20, 2020 3:11 pm

    That’s poor form and it’s no worse for someone to suggest that your wife has very questionable judgement

    ut get all huffy when you get a little back.

    I get pissed off when anyone insults my wife you ignorant fuckwit!

    But you can’t help but prove your just a nasty, spoilt, arrogant prick!

    And obviously can’t handle isolation … like millions of other Australians … whimper – fucking whimper from day ONE! … retired? From kindy?

  29. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 20, 2020 3:20 pm

    Yeah! But it’s ok for you to throw around the insults however you like, including on the basis of choice of husband!!

    **glass jaw**

  30. Tony permalink
    April 20, 2020 5:08 pm

    But you can’t help but prove your just a nasty, spoilt, arrogant prick!

    I think you meant ‘you’re’.

  31. Tony permalink
    April 20, 2020 5:20 pm

    In Victoria, 89% of total cases have recovered. Yet nationally it’s only 34.5%. There must be differences between states as to how recovered cases are reported.

  32. April 20, 2020 5:50 pm

    It’s ok, somewhere in Melbourne there’s a fuckin’ old bag clutching her pearls and crying into her library card.

    Won’t someone think of the Toorak Judiths…?

  33. Tom R permalink
    April 20, 2020 6:07 pm

    There must be differences between states as to how recovered cases are reported.

    Because it couldn’t be because of Library access, fer sure.

    https://www.boroondara.vic.gov.au/libraries/collections/ebooks-and-audio-books

  34. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 20, 2020 7:05 pm

    The library tells me that they will offer a book service within a week!

    Incompetence and apathy shouldn’t be tolerated at any level of government

  35. TB Queensland permalink
    April 20, 2020 7:07 pm

    Because it couldn’t be because of Library access, fer sure.

    I’ve only had my State Library and City Library cards for online access since 2005 (FFS!) … for EVERY book available to borrow! Stupid is … (apologies to Forrest!)

    And as far as I’m aware EVERY state and local library uses the same National SERVERS!

  36. TB Queensland permalink
    April 20, 2020 7:12 pm

    Just invented a new phrase … “There just being pandemic!”

    Virgin Blue has gone into admin …. yeah!

  37. TB Queensland permalink
    April 20, 2020 7:14 pm

    oops … they’re

    Before the Victorian Grammar Nazi’s gather their loincloths …

  38. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 20, 2020 7:20 pm

    And as far as I’m aware…

    Yes, and I’ll be sure to take an appropriate level of reassurance from that.

  39. April 20, 2020 7:27 pm

    “Hundreds of economists have cautioned the Morrison Government against relaxing social distancing measures too early, warning such a move could cause unnecessary loss of life and impede Australia’s economic recovery.”

    But what about YoM’s mum and the library….!!

    WTF would experts know about anything anyway…

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-20/economists-warn-against-early-lifting-of-coronavirus-lockdown/12165934

  40. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 20, 2020 7:34 pm

    Yeah! Because books delivered by mail can kill you!

    And you mentioned that your mum wants to travel, so I really hope Tiger Air survives

  41. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 20, 2020 7:35 pm

    Hundreds of economists have cautioned the Morrison Government against relaxing social distancing measures too early

    Economists? Shouldn’t that read health officials? What would an economist know about viruses?

  42. Tom R permalink
    April 20, 2020 8:27 pm

    And you mentioned that your mum wants to travel, so I really hope Tiger Air survives

  43. Tony permalink
    April 20, 2020 8:39 pm

    The problem with capitalism is that eventually you run out of socialism’s money.

    No worries. And how, exactly, does socialism make this money?

  44. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 20, 2020 9:17 pm

    No worries. And how, exactly, does socialism make this money?

    Exactly. These people are insane.

  45. TB Queensland permalink
    April 20, 2020 10:09 pm

    No worries. And how, exactly, does socialism make this money?

    By robbing from the rich and giving to the poor!

    Rather than robbing from the poor and robbing from the poor and robbing from the poor …

  46. Tom R permalink
    April 20, 2020 10:11 pm

    And how, exactly, does socialism make this money?

    Well, not from all these massive companies that don’t pay any tax quite obviously

  47. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 20, 2020 10:21 pm

    Well, not from all these massive companies that don’t pay any tax quite obviously

    Firstly most people work for small business in this country. And the big companies who may or may not pay company tax, their workers pay income tax.

    If govt did not get money from the private sector it would collapse tomorrow

  48. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 21, 2020 8:44 am

    And the big companies who may or may not pay company tax, their workers pay income tax.

    Tax the workers but not the shareholders! Seems fair to me.

  49. Tony permalink
    April 21, 2020 9:34 am

    Victoria currently has 118 people who tested positive for the virus but are yet to be classified as ‘recovered’. 118/6,500,00 = 1/55,000 of the population.

    https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-update

  50. Tom R permalink
    April 21, 2020 9:53 am

    lol splats

  51. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 21, 2020 10:26 am

    So the ALP wants to cough up plenty of taxpayer$$$$ to prop up foreign owned Virgin Airlines.

    My favourite restaurant is struggling, and I’d prefer them to throw some money in their direction.

    If the union backed superannuation funds don’t think it’s a good investment, there is no reason for a government to step in.

  52. Tom R permalink
    April 21, 2020 10:53 am

    there is no reason for a government to step in

    Unless we get a stake in it 😉

    My favourite restaurant is struggling

    With cheapskates like you as their customers, I’m not surprised.

  53. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 21, 2020 11:12 am

  54. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 21, 2020 11:21 am

    The government should not have a vested interest in one specific airline succeeding, so (part) ownership is entirely unsatisfactory.

    There have been many airlines that come and go in Australia, and there will be another that replaces Virgin.

    These days it is more straightforward for a subsidiary of a foreign airline to set up here. One or even 2 would come in pretty quickly. The market is lucrative and foreign airlines want a domestic airline to feed their international routes.

    The entry of Virgin was the final nail in the coffin of Ansett, there is nothing special about Virgin.

  55. TB Queensland permalink
    April 21, 2020 11:34 am

    Virgin Australia is 90 per cent foreign-owned, with Singapore Airlines, Etihad Airways and Chinese conglomerates HNA Group and Hanshan owning 80 per cent between them, while Richard Branson’s Virgin Group still owns 10 per cent.

    Why the government should NOT bail out Virgin … I assume Branson owns the missing 10%

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    lol splats Ditto …

  56. TB Queensland permalink
    April 21, 2020 11:40 am

    https://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/tax-cuts-deregulation-on-road-to-recovery/news-story/80ac5592f2c3826f30f2ef164f30d599

    Their war on workers is never ending … they still don’t get how it all works …

  57. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 21, 2020 12:17 pm

    lol splats

    Thanks Tom R. I’m not going soft or anything. I just thought it was extremely fucking funny!

  58. Tom R permalink
    April 21, 2020 12:26 pm

    The entry of Virgin was the final nail in the coffin of Ansett, there is nothing special about Virgin.

    For someone who was so worried about jobs yesterday, you don’t seem to give a flying fuck today

  59. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 21, 2020 12:53 pm

    Tax the workers but not the shareholders! Seems fair to me.

    The original topic was Dave Donovan who said capitalism runs out of socialisms money. My point was Govts get their money from taxation. Govt would not survive one day if they did not tax us

  60. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 21, 2020 12:55 pm

    The owners of Virgin chose to run a high debt business model. It wasn’t sustainable during a long period of economic growth. It certainly isn’t during a severe downturn.

    If the owners can’t see their way clear to bail out Virgin, there’s no point in the government doing it for them.

    I suppose the employees will be able to access the (exceptionally/unnecessarily generous) jobkeeper program like other people.

  61. TB Queensland permalink
    April 21, 2020 1:46 pm

    Govt would not survive one day if they did not tax us

    That’s exactly the point! So low taxes or no taxes is not the answer to keep our society running – you know, with hospitals, and research facilities and emergency services and roads and defence … all the things that are not profit centres but required for a society to survive … profits are disappearing up to Elysium as I write !

  62. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 21, 2020 2:09 pm

    Won’t somebody think of the Virgins?

  63. TB Queensland permalink
    April 21, 2020 3:19 pm

    Allah! Akba!

  64. TB Queensland permalink
    April 21, 2020 3:21 pm

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison has confirmed restrictions will be lifted on certain elective surgery, including IVF, after the Anzac Day long weekend.

    IVF? WTF … IVF?

  65. Tony permalink
    April 21, 2020 6:55 pm

  66. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 21, 2020 9:51 pm

    That’s exactly the point! So low taxes or no taxes is not the answer to keep our society running

    I don’t think that was the point Dave Donovan was trying to make. The man does not realise that without taxing private enterprise the govt would not survive for one day.

    But talking about debt boy are we in for a gigantic increase in govt debt. And most of our govt debt is foreign unlike most other Western countries who can fund the majority of their debt from their own people.

    I think the last election was a good one to lose for Labor

  67. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 22, 2020 9:10 am

    It wasn’t me!

  68. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 22, 2020 9:12 am

    Probably Anthony Weiner!

  69. TB Queensland permalink
    April 22, 2020 9:20 am

    They’ll just be the usual neo-nazi churchgoers from the deep south …

  70. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 22, 2020 9:48 am

  71. TB Queensland permalink
    April 22, 2020 10:00 am

    LOL!

  72. April 22, 2020 11:46 am

    Richard Branson strikes me as just being a bit of a dickhead.

  73. Tony permalink
    April 22, 2020 12:00 pm

    Germany’s largest newspaper responds to an open letter from China’s president Xi.

    https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/m.bild.de/politik/international/bild-international/bild-chief-editor-responds-to-the-chinese-president-70098436,view=amp.bildMobile.html

  74. Tom R permalink
    April 22, 2020 12:32 pm

    That’s an interesting article tosy. I read thinking about our grubmint, and their enjoyment in watching everything we do.

  75. April 22, 2020 1:11 pm

    “I read thinking about our grubmint”

    As I did too, particularly around the secrecy of our offshore detention centres, “on water matters,” and the cover-ups relating to Angus Taylor and Michaelia Cash to name a few.

    I also thought it was a very short letter. Why did he even bother?

  76. Tom R permalink
    April 22, 2020 1:15 pm

    Can’t unsee…

    And your first thought is, TO MAKE US ALL NOT UNSEE IT! 🙂

  77. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 22, 2020 1:42 pm

    Are you seriously comparing parliamentary democracy in Australia with the system of government in China??

    (How do you post those laughing images? Because presume I’ve put a couple of dozen of them here!)

  78. Tom R permalink
    April 22, 2020 2:13 pm

    Are you seriously comparing parliamentary democracy in Australia with the system of government in China??

    No, I’m saying our government is fascinated with spying on us. 😆

  79. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 22, 2020 2:14 pm

    Maybe compare the Amnesty International report on Australia to that of Chine, for a bit of perspective**

    Australia isn’t perfect, but a long way in front of the vast majority of countries, particularly China.

    **Unless you think News Ltd controls Amnesty international

  80. Tom R permalink
    April 22, 2020 3:42 pm

    Yay, we’re not ‘quite’ as bad as China, only slightly worst than Russia 😦

  81. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 22, 2020 4:03 pm

    You might refer to the Amnesty International report I mentioned earlier.

    But they’re probably just a front for News Ltd

  82. Tom R permalink
    April 22, 2020 4:29 pm

    I was 😉

  83. April 22, 2020 5:16 pm

    Are you seriously comparing Lego to Dante’s Inferno…?

  84. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 22, 2020 5:50 pm

    Yes.

    https://blogs.bu.edu/core/2014/06/09/dantes-inferno-in-lego/

  85. TB Queensland permalink
    April 22, 2020 6:15 pm

    **Unless you think News Ltd controls Amnesty international

    Nah … just most Western right wing governments … including and especially Australia’s …

  86. TB Queensland permalink
    April 22, 2020 6:18 pm

    Australia is urging top allies to back an overhaul of the World Health Organization including recruitment of investigators akin to “weapons inspectors” to determine the source of major disease outbreaks.

    Like those sent to Iraq? Why “weapons inspectors” – sending a “covert” message? Subtle as a fkn brick!

  87. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 22, 2020 6:29 pm

    As I did too, particularly around the secrecy of our offshore detention centres, “on water matters,”

    Like you really care.

    Our offshore detention centers were empty in 2007. Then Rudd dropped our borders and locked up 50,000 boat people.

    Why did Labor drop our borders?

    Because ALP/Greens want a borderless world ruled by the UN

  88. TB Queensland permalink
    April 22, 2020 6:35 pm

    The Australian government is to spend $94m to begin building up a stockpile of crude oil – but will initially store the fuel in the United States.

    WTF for … the USA is on the brink of another Civil War!

    The oil has to be stored here … if we need to revive storage – what a great employment opportunity …

    Sure as eggs Trump will want to charge rental!

  89. TB Queensland permalink
    April 22, 2020 6:42 pm

    Politics aside … what a clever lady …

    New Zealand lockdown releases charity spirit as Ardern ‘be kind’ mantra kicks in

    Much better than “We’re all in this together” (So suck it up princess!)

    Just think – I could have said, “Be Kind”, to ToM* …. and everything would have been sweet …

    I suggest we all take up that concept here … let’s all “Be Kind”

    * Understanding that he’s stir crazy …

  90. Tom R permalink
    April 22, 2020 6:44 pm

    sending a “covert” message?

    As long as they don’t look into our wheat 😉

  91. TB Queensland permalink
    April 22, 2020 7:00 pm

    Wheat are you talking about!

  92. April 22, 2020 8:08 pm

    Well played YoM… 😆

  93. Tony permalink
    April 23, 2020 7:40 am

    We currently have 78 Victorians sick with the virus, or 1/83,333 of the population. There are no daily updates on the number of businesses that have closed their doors or workers who’ve lost their jobs.

    https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-update

  94. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 23, 2020 9:34 am

    “… let’s all “Be Kind”

    Agreed! I’ve been trying really hard of late. But I feel somewhat like this pigeon:

  95. TB Queensland permalink
    April 23, 2020 10:28 am

    I get it, sb … I suspect some others “feel it” 😎

  96. TB Queensland permalink
    April 23, 2020 10:31 am

    Well played YoM…

    Is that the real reason why, ToM, is all a flutter about libraries … he borrows lego!!!

  97. TB Queensland permalink
    April 23, 2020 11:14 am

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronavirus/2020/04/23/jobkeeper-coronavirus-scams/

    Why not just send the Jobkeeper supplement employees … many employers don’t play the rules unless they are caught … never have

  98. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 23, 2020 11:43 am

    I wonder whether we will receive a rate reimbursement while all these librarians are sitting around at home trying to figure out how to avoid providing a library service.

  99. Tom R permalink
    April 23, 2020 11:57 am

    Why not just send the Jobkeeper supplement employees

    Because a) it cuts down the number of people who will actually get it and b) it gives employers a chance to clean more money from employees.

    Simple when you remember who came up with the idea

    The ipa

    how to avoid providing a library service.

    You mean, apart from the ones you can’t work out how to use?

    https://www.boroondara.vic.gov.au/libraries/collections/ebooks-and-audio-books

  100. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 23, 2020 12:21 pm

    Yeah! You know, the type of library that supplies “books”

    Are you familiar with that type of library, one that requires “librarians” , not an online transaction

  101. Tom R permalink
    April 23, 2020 1:11 pm

    one that requires “librarians” , not an online transaction

    any idea who maintains that ‘online transaction’? 😆

  102. Tony permalink
    April 23, 2020 1:16 pm

    Australia-wide, the number of active cases is down to 1,568, or one in 16,262 of the population. There’s no reason Victoria would have a ‘recovered’ rate so much higher than the national average. There has to be a difference between states in the way they are counted and/or reported.

    Click to access coronavirus-covid-19-at-a-glance-coronavirus-covid-19-at-a-glance-infographic_18.pdf

  103. Tony permalink
    April 23, 2020 1:20 pm

    Oops, that graph is not up to date. The stats at 6pm yesterday are here:

    https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert/coronavirus-covid-19-current-situation-and-case-numbers

  104. April 23, 2020 1:34 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  105. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 23, 2020 1:52 pm

    Really, material is downloaded to a device over the internet, and someone maintains…what? Making sure it’s returned to the library by the due date??

  106. Tom R permalink
    April 23, 2020 2:25 pm

    Ah yomm, highlighting his ignorance again.

    It’s the little faeries that cum out at at night and maintain the books database it is, isn’t it. New books appear as if by magic, old ones just disappear when forgotten abouts

    Not surprised yor having difficulties with that flat screen book reading there, I’ll send me folks around to give ya a hand 😉

  107. TB Queensland permalink
    April 23, 2020 2:55 pm

    Oops, that graph is not up to date.

    Chuckle …

    C’mon ToSY d’ja think anyone bothers with ’em?

    My web browser blocks ’em anyway?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Billionaire Kerry Stokes and his wife were given an exemption from mandatory hotel quarantine rules

    Yep, We’re All In This Together … so we’re not actually an egalitarian society then … or does Kessy live in an economy?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Ah yomm, highlighting his ignorance again.

    Is it me, or ToM sound more like Kneel, every day?

    (And ToM the ebooks have a limited time-frame and then the link is lost to your ebook, shimples)

    Sheltered or what?

  108. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 23, 2020 3:17 pm

    Hilarious! Yeah! Just like when you buy an ebook online, there’s a shop assistant with a cash register at the other end!
    They scan the ebook, push some buttons and then write a personal email to you to let you know they have completed the transaction!
    That kind of stuff is very labour intensive!

  109. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 23, 2020 3:20 pm

    And when the librarian sees that the ebook is due to be returned, they make your device delete it and then write you a nice personal email saying that it has been returned!

    And currently all those librarians are all sitting around at home doing exactly that!

    It’s so very busy for council librarians at the moment!

  110. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 23, 2020 5:03 pm

    Interesting website, Walrus.

  111. Walrus permalink
    April 23, 2020 5:59 pm

    Yes Splatter a favourite of mine

  112. Tom R permalink
    April 23, 2020 6:14 pm

    It’s so very busy for council librarians at the moment!

    Imagine the shock of the sudden deprivation of Monte Carlos.

    You really are an ignorant hick who cannot learn from his previous embarrassments aren’t you yomm!

  113. TB Queensland permalink
    April 23, 2020 6:14 pm

    Interesting website, Walrus.

    Gawd strewth … have you ever flown – and eaten meals on – Virgin …

    And airlines don’t generally produce their own tucker anyway … it could be worse than it sounds!

    Might avoid C-19 just to end up with something more serious (dare I say “cereal”)

    Desperate is as desperate does …

    (Apparently my Virgin FF points are safe … just like my QANTAS ones … LOL!)

    Whose delivering? Pilots flying drones?

  114. TB Queensland permalink
    April 23, 2020 6:15 pm

    I missed the last sentence! LOL!

    And he says a free sick bag is included with every meal.

  115. TB Queensland permalink
    April 23, 2020 6:18 pm

    Now in my Faves! Read some of the headlines … chuckle …

  116. April 23, 2020 6:21 pm

    “That kind of stuff is very labour intensive!”

    Funny you should mention that.

    I “withdrew” an “online book” from an “online library” (rbdigital in case anyone thinks I’m making this up) last week, yet it took 3 days for them to confirm my “withdrawal”.

    If this is all done electronically and without any human intervention as YoM would attest, WTF would it take 3 days to “borrow” a “virtual book” from a “virtual library”…?

    [asking on my behalf as well as YoM’s book-deprived mother]

  117. Tony permalink
    April 23, 2020 6:46 pm

    Is anyone else just a little bit sick of all the “gestures” going on at the moment? They lit up the Alfred Hospital the other day to honour the healthcare workers. Now tonight they’re lighting dozens of buildings in blue in memory of the police who were killed. Not to mention all the concerts in aid of the fires, the virus and whatever other cause. Not to forget the poms howling at the moon. It’s a bit much really.

  118. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 23, 2020 7:42 pm

    Yes, the health sector hasn’t been under the anticipated pressure.
    While I admire those that work in it, they haven’t done much that they wouldn’t ordinarily do during flu season.

  119. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 23, 2020 7:45 pm

    By the way, why do Tom R and TB excuse government from providing the services that people have paid for?

    They wouldn’t make excuses for a commercial organisation

  120. April 23, 2020 8:18 pm

    By the way, why have you ignored my question above re libraries and book borrowing and all that shit when ‘supposedly’ it’s a topic near and dear to your heart…

  121. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 23, 2020 8:30 pm

    Well…it’s just outrageous that you had to wait!

    Maybe the lass who runs the scanner over the ebook was on an RDO, and the guy who writes the email was busy.

  122. TB Queensland permalink
    April 23, 2020 9:09 pm

    They wouldn’t make excuses for a commercial organisation

    Don’t be a dickwit all ya life … I owned one for 16 fkn years!

    they haven’t done much that they wouldn’t ordinarily do during flu season.

    And you would know how? … whimper, fkn, whimper …

  123. Tony permalink
    April 23, 2020 9:17 pm

    They’ve even turned the MCG lights on. Won’t somebody think of the global warming climate change emergency crisis emergency?

  124. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 23, 2020 9:22 pm

    Try this TB! Hospitals aren’t under the pressure they normally face during the flu season

    https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by Subject/3303.0~2017~Main Features~Deaths due to influenza~5

    (you really enjoy throwing around gratuitous insults, and then really get the huff if you get a little back)

  125. Tony permalink
    April 24, 2020 8:03 am

    Gesture alert: People are being urged to stand at their gates at dawn tomorrow for a minute’s silence to commemorate Anzac Day.

  126. Tom R permalink
    April 24, 2020 9:04 am

    As to libraries, I do know that they teat electronic copies of books similar to the physical. That is, if somebody else has borrowed it, it is locked from others. Whether this is to do with licensing restrictions or just pedantry from the libraries, I’m not sure, but I would assume it more a legal requirement than anything. And yes, the workload for maintaining a database is much lower from a librarians perspective than manually handling books, but they do not look after themselves.

    Either way, you are getting a free book (albeit paid for by rates), HTFU!

    Gesture alert: People are being urged to stand at their gates at dawn tomorrow for a minute’s silence to commemorate Anzac Day.

    And I see they took that public holiday away. Brick by brick.

  127. Tony permalink
    April 24, 2020 9:24 am

    Raelene Castle, the Rugby Australia CEO who bungled the whole Israel Folau affair, has resigned – at the urgings of board. The only surprise here is that it took so long.

  128. TB Queensland permalink
    April 24, 2020 10:01 am

    (you really enjoy throwing around gratuitous insults, and then really get the huff if you get a little back)

    Insult me all you like (you always have that’s why you get an appropriate response) – but leave my family out of it.

    With all yer whinging have you noticed the lack of any divine intervention*?

    Perhaps god is in isolation …

    *As usual

  129. TB Queensland permalink
    April 24, 2020 10:07 am

    And I see they took that public holiday away. Brick by brick.

    Ever been to a Dawn Service?

    And you’ve surely seen Anzac parades on TV (you do have a TV?)

    Both are CROWDED with PEOPLE (hint: That’s how Covid 19 spreads – rapidly)

    I do know that they teat electronic copies of books

    You do know that not all librarians are female?

    urged … ?

    Don’t think so …

  130. Tony permalink
    April 24, 2020 10:08 am

    Victoria now has 70 active cases, one person in every 92,857.

  131. TB Queensland permalink
    April 24, 2020 10:13 am

    Channel 7, this am, nice young reporter out West somewhere reporting on street Anzac Day … “and I see you’ve been busy making Anzac cookies … ” Welcome to the 51st State …

  132. TB Queensland permalink
    April 24, 2020 10:15 am

    ToSY’s garage …

  133. Tom R permalink
    April 24, 2020 10:21 am

    You do know that not all librarians are female?

    lol, that’s how you do typos 🙂

    Ever been to a Dawn Service?

    Anzac Day is Saturday (the shops are shut for half a day). Traditionally, the public holiday would be on Monday in this case (these are public Holidays we traded for years ago). They stole another day from us, Brick by Brick.

    At least somebodies thinking of the Librarians (of all sexes 😉 )

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/eat/life-in-lockdown-arnotts-shares-secret-monte-carlo-biscuit-recipe/news-story/d517e74711e50e91eb36643e2f232428

  134. Tom R permalink
    April 24, 2020 10:31 am

  135. TB Queensland permalink
    April 24, 2020 10:40 am

    Chuckle @ TR!

    I see the cops wanted “access” and were refused … no mention of Dopey Dutton’s request must be “in secret” …

  136. April 24, 2020 2:40 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  137. Tom R permalink
    April 24, 2020 3:18 pm

  138. TB Queensland permalink
    April 24, 2020 6:30 pm

    reb of Melbourne permalink*
    April 24, 2020 2:40 pm

    Try the disinfectant or Trump first … WHY is this fuckwit still POTUS!

    Have I mentioned before that Septic Tanks are not like most people?

    Afknsounding!

  139. TB Queensland permalink
    April 24, 2020 6:30 pm

    typo see if you can find it!

  140. TB Queensland permalink
    April 24, 2020 8:01 pm

    So USA big business nicks support funding, NZ big business nicks support funding, Oz business nicks support funding … pattern here … we need a graph?

  141. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 24, 2020 10:03 pm

    Fascinating and indicative

  142. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 24, 2020 10:26 pm

    it’s interesting that Sweden doesn’t get the type of criticism of the US.
    The nordic countries seem to get out of international scrutiny
    *Whaling
    *Coronavirus
    *Anti-immigration
    *Powerful right wing parties
    *Taxation

    Sweden is doing what Trump is getting all the criticism for.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-24/swedens-capital-nears-herd-immunity-relaxed-coronavirus-strategy/12177514

  143. Tony permalink
    April 25, 2020 12:46 am

    Whew! I just had my syringe and Dettol out ready to go. Thanks for the timely warning,

  144. April 25, 2020 8:14 am

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  145. April 25, 2020 8:20 am

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  146. April 25, 2020 12:38 pm

    Some ppl on twitter are recounting some of their favourite movie theatre experiences, and I’m still lolling at this one from @tentwentysixpm…

    “I went to see casino royale and was tripping balls on vicodin the day after getting my wisdom teeth removed. my friend and i got SCREAMED at by a rowdy group of dudes for being too loud.”

    “I turned around to laugh at them and blood POURED OUT of my mouth uncontrollably.”

  147. Tom R permalink
    April 25, 2020 3:33 pm

    ffs yomm, just do a search for Sweden on this page alone [facepalm]

    Sounds like the only screening of casino royale where the fans were actually entertained reb

  148. April 25, 2020 8:20 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  149. TB Queensland permalink
    April 26, 2020 9:59 am

    And why do they all look so fkn smug … ahhh! Of course.

    They’ll all be off to church this morning or the mosque or the synagogue …

  150. Tony permalink
    April 26, 2020 11:13 am

  151. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 26, 2020 12:03 pm

    That’s really insightful TB, as always.

  152. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 26, 2020 2:15 pm

    So Queensland is going to-
    * Allow shopping for non essential stuff
    * Picnics
    * Travel for leisure, 50 km

    WERE ALL GOING TO DIE!!

  153. Tom R permalink
    April 26, 2020 2:42 pm

    Something fishy here.

    Not really. You have to remember, while ‘merica had lock downs, their prez was still telling his followers it was all a Democrat conspiracy, while Japanese are very good at following orders and doing what their leaders ask.

    I also think cultural habits come into play, the Japanese being quite fastidious and generally averse to close contact, whereas Americans, and especially New Yorkers, are extremely Gregarious and prone to physical greeting etc.

    Not saying one is right or wrong, but in this case, has worked against them.

    Glad to see Danial Andrews isn’t falling for the governments bullshit school rubbish.

  154. TB Queensland permalink
    April 26, 2020 2:53 pm

    That’s really insightful TB, as always.

    ToM, you’re waiting for libraries to open … I’m waiting for divine intervention so everyone can go about their lives normally … and read a good book …

    Neither of us having much luck I see …

    WERE ALL GOING TO DIE!!

    Still jealous to, too, I see … QUEENSLANDER!

  155. Tony permalink
    April 26, 2020 3:03 pm

    the Japanese being quite fastidious and generally averse to close contact

    Guffaw! Go on YouTube and search ‘Tokyo train pushers’. Hint: they’re not pushing the trains.

  156. Tom R permalink
    April 26, 2020 3:27 pm

    they’re not pushing the trains.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_pusher#Japan

    Only one country mentions gloves 😉

  157. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 26, 2020 5:21 pm

    I’ve signed up for the covid 19 app, so if the government wants to track me, my advice is get ready for some excruciating boredom

  158. TB Queensland permalink
    April 26, 2020 6:24 pm

    … so if the government wants to track me, my advice is get ready for some excruciating boredom

    Totally agree … (I know – but FFS I couldn’t miss that opportunity!)

  159. Tom R permalink
    April 26, 2020 6:35 pm

    my advice is get ready for some excruciating boredom

    They just track your movement,( and who you associate with, and what their political leaning is, and what you look at on facebook ………), they don’t read your comments.

  160. Tom R permalink
    April 26, 2020 6:39 pm

  161. Tony permalink
    April 26, 2020 7:07 pm

  162. TB Queensland permalink
    April 26, 2020 8:06 pm

    A death rate 200 times the average.

    Maybe its to do with leadership?

  163. Tony permalink
    April 26, 2020 8:14 pm

  164. April 26, 2020 8:51 pm

    Sam Newman is a stupid cunt.

  165. TB Queensland permalink
    April 26, 2020 9:00 pm

    Sam Newman is a stupid cunt.

    You just found out! 😎

  166. Tony permalink
    April 26, 2020 9:29 pm

    Victoria has 6.5 million people and 17 deaths.
    New York City has 8.5 million and nearly 12,000 deaths.

  167. Tony permalink
    April 26, 2020 9:35 pm

    If all the deaths were in Melbourne (likely) it would be 4.8 million people, 17 deaths.

  168. Tony permalink
    April 26, 2020 10:16 pm

  169. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 26, 2020 10:31 pm

    I think we should do just whatever the government says, whether it makes sense or not.

    Everyone knows that playing golf, fishing and going to the public library kills people.

  170. Tony permalink
    April 26, 2020 11:09 pm

    Everyone knows that playing golf, fishing and going to the public library kills people.

    Thank goodness our moral and ethical superiors have protected us from ourselves.

  171. Tony permalink
    April 26, 2020 11:12 pm

  172. Tony permalink
    April 26, 2020 11:27 pm

  173. Tony permalink
    April 26, 2020 11:55 pm

    Australia has 25.5 million people and 83 deaths.
    NYC has 8.5 million people and 12,000 deaths.

    WTF is going on here?

  174. April 27, 2020 8:15 am

    Maybe they don’t have moral and ethical superiors protecting them from themselves.

  175. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 27, 2020 9:16 am

    Scomo is moral and ethical?

  176. Tom R permalink
    April 27, 2020 9:22 am

    yes, obviously hundreds of people dying in New York is all about … getting grants for hospitals 😯 ?? WTF!

    Nothing to do with merica being a broken down state when this began, controlled by a moron who is happy to give even dumber people options for killing themselves?

  177. Tony permalink
    April 27, 2020 9:44 am

  178. Tony permalink
    April 27, 2020 10:24 am

    Queensland and Western Australia have both eased their restrictions. Meanwhile, Herr Andrews is pressing his jackboot on the proletariat’s throat for as long as he can possibly get away with it. But it gives him no pleasure.

  179. Tony permalink
    April 27, 2020 10:46 am

    Andrews is just now announcing he wants everyone to get tested. He needs to find more new cases to justify keeping restrictions in place.

  180. Tom R permalink
    April 27, 2020 10:51 am

    “It’s working, what should we do?”

    “STOP IT NOW!”

    “But 15 schools that were closed didn’t have a lot of cases, so we should re-open schoools”

    “Yes, just like New York did”

  181. Tony permalink
    April 27, 2020 11:01 am

    “Yes, just like New York did”

    What are you even talking about?

    https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.lohud.com/amp/5165805002

  182. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 27, 2020 11:03 am

    Time’s up.

    We need to get people back to work, particularly in cafes and restaurants (and libraries). People need to rebuild their lives and livelihoods.

    Governments should stop treating this as a form of punishment and start to look at the specific restrictions/measures that will limit transmission.

    There is already plenty of civil disobedience, ie shopping, going to the beach, exercising. I think some people are even visiting each other!

    Governments like just telling people what to do, and they’ve done quite enough that is unnecessary.

  183. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 27, 2020 11:04 am

    I don’t think it is just Trump that is the problem. New Yorkers probably don’t listen to him they certainly don’t vote for him.

    On the other hand they voted di Blasio as mayor a and probably took his advice:

    “Up until March 8 — a week after the city’s first case emerged — the mayor and his administration were adamant that the subways were safe to ride for people who weren’t sick, according to public transcripts from his media appearances and press conferences.

    “From what we do understand, you cannot contract it through casual contact so the subway is not the issue,” de Blasio said on March 3, responding to concerns that a Manhattan lawyer with the virus may have commuted from his home in New Rochelle on the Metro-North Railroad.”

    Also Cuomo said:

    “Gov. Andrew Cuomo insisted that “it’s not our job” to provide coronavirus-ravaged nursing homes with personal protective equipment — even as more than 3,000 patients have lost their lives in facilities ordered by his administration to take in COVID-19 patients.”

  184. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 27, 2020 11:04 am

    Also Cuomo:

  185. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 27, 2020 11:05 am

  186. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 27, 2020 11:06 am

    And speaking of Cuomos:

  187. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 27, 2020 11:09 am

    I think the reaction to the Trump bleach comment was overblown. Stupid thing to say but the reaction has been like this:

  188. TB Queensland permalink
    April 27, 2020 11:29 am

    I’m surprised that TDS is still so low?

  189. TB Queensland permalink
    April 27, 2020 11:31 am

    Nay, disappointed … (re TDS)

    +++++++++++++++++

    Have you noticed how people want everything re-opened (even libraries) but not one word about churches, mosques, temples or synagogues? Fascinating, hey?

  190. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 27, 2020 11:43 am

    Trump speaks to the whole country. NY is such an outlier, being responsible for almost half the deaths in the country. It is likely that the causes for the difference are local including the busy airport and population density. And some bad decisions. In that regard there is plenty of blame to around.

  191. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 27, 2020 11:47 am

    And then there is the stupidity factor – entitled millionaires like George Stephanopolous, who has the virus and should be in quarantine, walking in the Hamptons with their mask off.

    And the privileged cunt hasn’t been charged.

  192. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 27, 2020 11:54 am

    “Have you noticed how people want everything re-opened (even libraries) but not one word about churches, mosques, temples or synagogues? Fascinating, hey?

    In the US there is a clamour to re-open churches etc with predictable consequences:

    “Bishop Gerald Glenn, the pastor of New Deliverance Evangelistic Church in Virginia, has died, the church announced on Sunday. Glenn had tested positive for coronavirus …

    Despite warnings from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to avoid mass gatherings and maintain social distancing, Glenn said in a sermon on March 22, “I firmly believe that God is larger than this dreaded virus,” and announced he was not afraid to die.”

    Australians aren’t that stupid.

  193. Tom R permalink
    April 27, 2020 12:09 pm

    What are you even talking about?

    The link I put up about the New York school begging to close, but not being listened to. Over here, we have the government blaming the Unions for wanting to stay on the safe side, which is the reason we are doing so well now

  194. TB Queensland permalink
    April 27, 2020 12:25 pm

    LOL! Are those arguments peer reviewed …? (@TR & sb) LOL!

  195. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 27, 2020 1:06 pm

    Business owners are battling staff demanding payments under the government’s $130 billion JobKeeper scheme but refusing to work.

    Several employers told The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald their staff said they don’t want to work at all, or want to work minimal hours, but still receive JobKeeper payments of $1500 a fortnight.

    The JobKeeper payment is ill considered. This was bound to happen, particularly in industries where employers observe award rates. Employees on the award are better off just staying at home and collecting the money, we saw that with a union demanding that JB HiFi close, it also fairly common in small retailers.

    The sooner unnecessary restrictions are lifted, the better for everyone

    https://www.theage.com.au/business/small-business/it-s-not-money-for-jam-staff-refusing-to-come-to-work-but-demanding-jobkeeper-payments-20200423-p54mka.html

  196. Tom R permalink
    April 27, 2020 2:29 pm

    The JobKeeper payment is ill considered.

    Yes, so fix that, don’t rush back in because the libs stimulus is crap.

  197. TB Queensland permalink
    April 27, 2020 2:33 pm

    Oh, FFS, ToM … the biggest myth in the LNP repertoire is that only employers and millionaires want to work, everyone else is a wannabe bludger … even in your “fantasy” world people need to pay bills and bring up kids …

  198. TB Queensland permalink
    April 27, 2020 2:34 pm

    When you look around the internet – bricks and mortar libraries really are a wast of tax payer’s money …

  199. Tony permalink
    April 27, 2020 3:17 pm

    Business owners are battling staff demanding payments under the government’s $130 billion JobKeeper scheme but refusing to work.

    Just heard about a 17 year old school student son of an acquaintance. He is a casual worker at MacDonalds. His employer helped him fill out a government (jobkeeper?) application. He now receives $625 per week from the government whether he works 20 hours, five hours, or not at all, on top of his Maccas pay.

    How the fuck do they justify that?

  200. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 27, 2020 3:38 pm

    Yes, the son of an acquaintance works as an intermittent casual, sometimes 30 hours/week. Sometimes 10. They’ll get the jobkeeper allowance. It’s more than they were earning while working.

    And that’s typical of you TB, just resort to denial and bitterness, without any evidence.

    (but I suppose you’ll say – I worked as a consultant and know…)

  201. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 27, 2020 3:40 pm

    But no comment on the interview with the union official that demanded that JB HiFi close, so that everyone could sit around at home and collect the over generous welfare

  202. Tom R permalink
    April 27, 2020 4:18 pm

    But no comment on the interview with the union official that demanded that JB HiFi close, so that everyone could sit around at home and collect the over generous welfare

    Since I’ve only heard of it through you, what should I say?

    That’s printable 😉

  203. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 27, 2020 4:38 pm

    You obviously don’t keep up with union demands, so try reading this.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/unions-divided-on-coronavirus-retail-closures-20200413-p54jet.html

  204. Tom R permalink
    April 27, 2020 4:45 pm

    Well, now I know a little about it, I find out out that, interestingly, some people are worried about their ongoing health and safety.

    But more than 850 JB Hi-Fi employees have signed a petition

    So, no comment on workers wanting a safe working environment?

  205. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 27, 2020 5:51 pm

    Really? You think the motivation is about safety rather than money?
    Of course!
    I’ll have to see whether I can find the tv interview the union Sid, that was even more pointed.
    The Jobkeeper program is too generous and can act as a reason to avoid attending work.

  206. TB Queensland permalink
    April 27, 2020 6:22 pm

    Yes, the son of an acquaintance works as an intermittent casual, sometimes 30 hours/week. Sometimes 10. They’ll get the jobkeeper allowance. It’s more than they were earning while working.

    Link, proof, or just more BS … maybe casuals should be paid more …

    And that’s typical of you TB, just resort to denial and bitterness, without any evidence.

    “” the biggest myth in the LNP repertoire is that only employers and millionaires want to work, everyone else is a wannabe bludger “””

    That’s not denial or bitterness its actual experience … I’ve had people TELL ME that … thinking I was in the club (I worked as a manager and a consultant y’know)* … then finding out that I’d started my career on the workshop floor – sweeping the fkn thing every morning … that’s not denial or bitterness … that fkn fact …

    * That’s YOUR denial and bitterness … build a fucking bridge!

    But no comment on the interview with the union official that demanded that JB HiFi close,

    ‘Cause its BS I have a family member works casual for JB’s … may be one store … to my knowledge JB is not unionised … probably because each store is a franchise …

    Really? You think the motivation is about safety rather than money?
    Of course!

    And your comments haven’t been about money over safety – in fact your comment is really dumb – safety as a motivator … danger money went out the window decades ago …

    The Jobkeeper program is too generous and can act as a reason to avoid attending work.

    And you know this how? More money results in tardiness … that’s a new one …

    How many kites are trying to launch?

  207. Tom R permalink
    April 27, 2020 7:25 pm

    You think the motivation is about safety rather than money?

    Silly me, I’m just going on what all those workers said.

  208. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 27, 2020 7:43 pm

    TB, your standard method of comment is fact free. Vigorous assertion is your speciality. So get over it.
    But it’s typical of left types to want to hand out unfunded benefits.
    While the left gets bothered about their climate change legacy, there seems to no concern about loading a couple of generations with our debt
    That’s what boomers do.

  209. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 27, 2020 7:49 pm

    The minimum wage in Australia is $740/wk. The jobkeeper pays $750.
    So people can save all the travel expenses, stay at home and watch daytime tv, and still be better off.
    It isn’t a tough decision to figure out that jobkeeper is more financially attractive, and without the bother of having to do any thing.
    Jobkeeper is a mistake, and needs to be wound back.

  210. April 27, 2020 7:52 pm

    For the first time this month, New York’s daily death toll from COVID-19 has dropped below 400, according to Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

    Speaking at his briefing Sunday, New York’s Governor Andrew Cuomo said that 367 New Yorkers died from the respiratory illness the day before — less than half of where it was at the height of the outbreak.

    “There is no relative context to death. Death is death.” Cuomo said in his briefing.

    Clearly, Governor Cumo hasn’t had the pleasure of YoM’s advice and guidance when it comes to measuring catastrophes by head count.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/26/845199791/new-yorks-daily-covid-19-deaths-below-400-for-first-time-in-april

  211. Tom R permalink
    April 27, 2020 8:42 pm

    Jobkeeper is a mistake, and needs to be wound back.

    Yes, it’s shit, but for many other reasons than the rate. But, don’t blame workers for wanting to be safe, and call them some sort of greedy buggers, when in reality, they just don’t want to get sick or endanger their families.

    Don’t take the governments failures out on the workers ffs

  212. Tony permalink
    April 27, 2020 8:46 pm

    Chairman Dan’s rationale for not relaxing his commands: we don’t know what we don’t know.

  213. Tony permalink
    April 27, 2020 8:47 pm

  214. Tom R permalink
    April 27, 2020 8:54 pm

    we don’t know what we don’t know.

    Except of course you tosy, who always knows that which he doesn’t 😉

  215. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 27, 2020 9:31 pm

    we don’t know what we don’t know.

    That’s interesting from Dan, but he needs more practice! Donald Rumsfeld did it better.

  216. Tony permalink
    April 27, 2020 9:35 pm

    “We don’t know what we don’t know“ is like saying “Death is death”.

    Very insightful.

  217. Tom R permalink
    April 27, 2020 9:37 pm

    “Death is death”

  218. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 27, 2020 9:44 pm

    (I worked as a manager and a consultant y’know)

    Fascinating TB, I think you’ve only mentioned that twice a week for 13 years.

    https://revitalistclinic.com/keep-talking-i-yawn-when-im-interested/

  219. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 27, 2020 9:58 pm

    when in reality, they just don’t want to get sick or endanger their families want to watch daytime tv, while earning more than they do by going to work

  220. TB Queensland permalink
    April 28, 2020 8:31 am

    TB —- fact free — vigorous assertion — typical of left types —- what boomers do.

    Link?

  221. TB Queensland permalink
    April 28, 2020 8:34 am

    Don’t take the governments failures out on the workers ffs

    That ToM’s standard method of comment – fact free

  222. TB Queensland permalink
    April 28, 2020 8:39 am

    Fascinating TB, I think you’ve only mentioned that twice a week for 13 years.

    I have to, you keep forgetting …

    want to watch daytime tv, while earning more than they do by going to work

    And you mention “the lazy workers” 13 times a fucking day!

    If you ever had anyone working with you … judging by comments here, they were probably bloody minded about anything you told ’em (I doubt you would ask) to do … and you took that as lazy … its always someone else’s fault!

  223. Tom R permalink
    April 28, 2020 8:43 am

    And you mention “the lazy workers” 13 times a fucking day!

    Don’t forget the public servants and their fucking Monte Carlo’s

  224. Tony permalink
    April 28, 2020 8:57 am

    Victoria has 52 active Corona virus cases yet most of its 6.5 million residents are locked in their homes.

  225. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 28, 2020 9:06 am

    Don’t forget the public servants and their fucking Monte Carlo’s

    It’s Tim Tams, and it is surprising that there hasn’t been some public servant union official on tv complaining that public servants have to buy their own Tim Tams now that they’re “working from home”

  226. Tom R permalink
    April 28, 2020 9:20 am

    there hasn’t been some public servant union official on tv complaining

    Perhaps they’ve been crowded out by grumpy old farts who can’t get their Kindle working?

  227. Tony permalink
    April 28, 2020 9:43 am

  228. Tony permalink
    April 28, 2020 9:59 am

    Der Fuhrer Andrews giving his daily press conference announces the number of (total) cases but doesn’t mention the number recovered. Those numbers don’t suit his power trip.

  229. Tom R permalink
    April 28, 2020 10:01 am

    https://giphy.com/gifs/trump-press-conference-joV1k1sNOT5xC

  230. Tom R permalink
    April 28, 2020 10:03 am

    You know, for someone who complains so much about nazis being called called Nazis, you like to throw around the Nazi label quite liberally when it suits I note tosy 😉

  231. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 28, 2020 10:24 am

    Dan Andrews is motivated only by saving lives! All those other states don’t give a crap about whether people live or die!

    That’s why they allow golf and fishing!

  232. TB Queensland permalink
    April 28, 2020 10:49 am

    Dan Andrews is motivated only by saving lives!

    And somehow that’s wrong?

  233. TB Queensland permalink
    April 28, 2020 10:50 am

    Any insult in a pandemic …

  234. Tom R permalink
    April 28, 2020 10:50 am

    And somehow that’s wrong?

    For Kindle owners, seems so

  235. Tony permalink
    April 28, 2020 11:03 am

    you like to throw around the Nazi label quite liberally when it suits I note tosy 😉

    I don’t, actually, but I can see how you might get that impression.

    (Fuhrer = leader; Herr = Mr.)

  236. Tom R permalink
    April 28, 2020 11:32 am

    ohh, aren’t we the little sneaky smarty

    not 😆

    However, because of its strong association with Hitler, the isolated word usually has negative connotations when used with the meaning of “leader”, especially in political contexts

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Führer

  237. TB Queensland permalink
    April 28, 2020 11:50 am

    Maybe ToSY meant Duh Leader …

    Just sayin’ …

  238. Tom R permalink
    April 28, 2020 12:07 pm

    lol TB

  239. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 28, 2020 12:16 pm

    And somehow that’s wrong?

    Of course not TB! It’s all those other state governments that show such a cavalier attitude towards human life! It is so irresponsible for the government of Queensland to allow people to play golf!

    Here in Victoria, Dan is asking us to accept the punishment, and we’ll all survive, while the people of Queensland will die from golf and a little bit of socialising

  240. Tom R permalink
    April 28, 2020 1:19 pm

    “GIVE ME LIBERTY …………… well, at least give me free books ffs!”

  241. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 28, 2020 2:28 pm

    Free books! Yeah!! Why would anyone expect a council library to figure out how to provide some form of service, like some other council libraries?

    It’s unreasonable to expect a local government to provide a service that has been paid for. I mean, why should any government try to make the social distancing and isolation more tolerable?

    It’s best if we (in Victoria) accept our punishment without complaint. It’s what we deserve!

    But when the citizens of QLD & NSW are dropping like flies from golf, reading and limited socialising, we’ll be all laughing at result of their irresponsibility!

  242. TB Queensland permalink
    April 28, 2020 7:22 pm

    But when the citizens of QLD & NSW are dropping like flies from golf, reading and limited socialising, we’ll be all laughing at result of their irresponsibility!

    In your case – yes you would … citizens of Qld would be concerned if it happened to other states … we’re part of an experiment … we take the risk for you … “laughing” – are you Tommy Trump?

    BTW your library has efknbooks … if you don’t know how to access them tell reb to give me your email address …. 👿

  243. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 28, 2020 8:04 pm

    Really TB, when all this is over, people won’t forget the responsible Premiers (like Mr Andrews) that that value human life, and therefore ban golf, and visiting another house.

    Those Premiers that are unwilling to dish out a little justified punishment and allow things like golf will have to face the opprobrium of the electorate.

    Those Premiers that show this complete indifference to human life are denying the science!

    I think we have discussed e-books a few times, but I’m quite happy to explain this again. Why do you wish to excuse a council from providing a service that has been paid for, and which other councils provide?

    By the way, why are left types so willing to support loading up future generations with debt, but apparently so concerned about not leaving a legacy of climate change?

  244. TB Queensland permalink
    April 28, 2020 8:55 pm

    By the way, why are left types so willing to support loading up future generations with debt, but apparently so concerned about not leaving a legacy of climate change?

    ToM, I paid for WWII, I paid for Korea, I paid for VN, I paid for Iraq I & II, I’m still paying for Afghanistan and VN! (I even paid for your birth!)

    You piddle around on a sufboard and think you know everything … you “know” jack shit … your whimpering and whinging for the last month demonstrates that …

    BTW, thanks for thinking I make all the ALP and LNP government decisions … not!

    (As for “legacies” each generation makes its own … life ain’t all big waves and good surfin’ … some of us have to work to survive … )

  245. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 28, 2020 9:46 pm

    Brilliant analysis as always.

  246. Tony permalink
    April 28, 2020 9:49 pm

  247. Tony permalink
    April 28, 2020 9:55 pm

  248. Tony permalink
    April 28, 2020 10:12 pm

  249. Tony permalink
    April 28, 2020 11:05 pm

    This wasn’t a useless gesture. Celebrities did it!

  250. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 29, 2020 6:49 am

  251. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 29, 2020 6:53 am

    Funny thing is that CNN had the video of her mother calling Wolf Blitzer but rather than running with the story it took the video down. They ran 700 stories on Blasey Ford. Nothing like that now.

  252. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 29, 2020 7:16 am

    When you are hollowed out shell of a human being corrupted by years of whoring yourself for politics this what dishonesty looks like.

    The feminist mantra is now: Believe all women! (except those raped by Democrats).

    Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand said today that she does not believe Tara Reade’s sexual assault allegation against Joe Biden:

    “I stand by Vice President Biden. He’s devoted his life to supporting women and he has vehemently denied this allegation,”

    Gillibrand said of Dr Christine Blasey Ford: ” she showed us what courage looks like.” She says her testimony showed she was “not only telling the truth, but how believable her story is.”

    And that goes for all the now silent Democrats – there is no decency among them.

  253. Tom R permalink
    April 29, 2020 8:23 am

    This wasn’t a useless gesture. Celebrities did it!

    Well, all I can say is, celebrities are shit at Photoshop 😉

    Seems the fire relief payments weren’t the only promise that didn’t make it past the headline stage.

  254. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 29, 2020 9:20 am

    Some of the super would be gaming the system, no?

  255. Tom R permalink
    April 29, 2020 9:30 am

    I’d say more than some splats, going on the recent royal commission they wanted to burn Industry super with

  256. TB Queensland permalink
    April 29, 2020 10:04 am

    Brilliant analysis as always.

    Surely it’s commonsense (common-sense? common sense?)

    😎 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😛

  257. TB Queensland permalink
    April 29, 2020 10:06 am

    This wasn’t a useless gesture. Celebrities did it!

    Jesus christ … how crass!

  258. Tony permalink
    April 29, 2020 10:36 am

    Well, all I can say is, celebrities are shit at Photoshop 😉

    Jesus christ … how crass!

    It’s almost as if it’s satire.

  259. Tom R permalink
    April 29, 2020 11:17 am

    It’s almost as if it’s satire.

    Almost, if the rest of the site wasn’t so damn stupid

    “Trump Says To Drink Lots Of Water, Media Reports He Told Everyone To Drown Themselves”

    The reality was more ‘satirical’ than that ffs.

    btw, have you tried injecting it yet?

  260. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 29, 2020 11:35 am

    Yeah! Everyone knows it’s only left oriented satire that’s funny

  261. Tom R permalink
    April 29, 2020 11:43 am

    Everyone knows it’s only left oriented satire that’s funny

    I’m not sure that ones even trying to be funny?

    https://www.dummies.com/consumer-electronics/tablets/kindle/

  262. Tom R permalink
    April 29, 2020 11:50 am

    More ‘satire’ (I think?)

    My guess, the governments seen the economy drop off a cliff, realized their ‘stimulus’ aint doin’ shit, and are now in panic mode

  263. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 29, 2020 12:30 pm

    “Almost, if the rest of the site wasn’t so damn stupid”

    I like the Bee. This site also has its moments.

  264. Tom R permalink
    April 29, 2020 12:39 pm


    PM Launches New App Which Notifies Users Who Come Within 1.5m Of An NRL Player

    Now that’s something we could all use. And if you could modify it to warn of proximity to decrepit surfers, I’d pay for it.

    Although, normally, the incessant ranting is warning enough.

  265. April 29, 2020 1:47 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  266. April 29, 2020 1:49 pm

    What is it with YoM and his obsession with what he calls “the left”…?

    It’s like Neil and “Labor’s debt”.

  267. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 29, 2020 3:35 pm

    Time to round up the Jews again.

    His real name is, appropriately, Warren Wilhelm.

  268. TB Queensland permalink
    April 29, 2020 3:42 pm

    This is bizarre !

    More like fkn criminal!

    Although, normally, the incessant ranting is warning enough. Chuckle!

    Thumbs Up @ sb -sent the URL on to a few folk … they’re having trouble finding something to read … did you know the fkn libraries are shut down?

    Quick tip for those doing online meetings.

    Wild Turkey is more convincing for colour but I suspect the aroma may be a little “loud” …

  269. TB Queensland permalink
    April 29, 2020 3:46 pm

    What is it with YoM and his obsession with what he calls “the left”…?

    Craving the truth while seeking redemption I suspect … camouflaging his disillusionment with the right … so much in his life is failing … stock market’s actually doing well under the circumstances …

  270. Tony permalink
    April 29, 2020 3:46 pm

    Here’s de Blasio on the 3rd of March. He’s part of the problem. Now he wants to play Gestapo? (Yes, TomR, I said Gestapo.)

  271. Walrus permalink
    April 29, 2020 3:55 pm

    Apparently it’s 250 years ago today that some obscure English Lieutenant and crew sailed into Botany Bay

    Who would have known ?

  272. Tony permalink
    April 29, 2020 3:59 pm

    Interesting, too, that he stopped using the ‘Bill de Blasio’ account on the 11th of March and started up the ‘Mayor Bill de Blasio’ on the 23rd March.

    Trying to rewrite history?

  273. Tony permalink
    April 29, 2020 4:10 pm

    Captain Cook’s been cancelled.

  274. Tony permalink
    April 29, 2020 4:49 pm

    Victoria has only 49 active cases of Coronavirus, which doesn’t help Herr Andrews keep the population afraid and cowering in their homes. So he’s launched a testing blitzkrieg to find more. From today, major shopping centres have drive-through testing points where anyone displaying the slightest symptoms, or none at all, are encouraged to present themselves. They are identified, swabbed, then notified by text within 24 hours if the test is negative. If it’s positive, the new active case will be contacted by a doctor and their name added to Daniel Andrews’s list of doom.

  275. Walrus permalink
    April 29, 2020 4:54 pm

    I’m busy on Facebook with nutters defending Dark Emu. They truly are nutters and are even editing their past posts.

  276. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 29, 2020 5:29 pm

    I had no idea calling people with a left political orientation – “the left” was a bother.

    What should that collective political orientation be called ? The “non RWNJs” or “LWNJs”?

    How about – “the predictable” ?

  277. Tony permalink
    April 29, 2020 6:50 pm

  278. Tony permalink
    April 29, 2020 6:51 pm

  279. Tony permalink
    April 29, 2020 7:05 pm

    The chattering classes are all jostling with each other to get their favourite ‘reforms’ on the agenda – for when we ‘come out the other side’. Globalwarmingclimatechangeemergencycrisis didn’t do the trick of getting society restructured in their own image, so now they’re trying the virus as a catalyst to achieve their socialist Utopia.

    “Never let a good crisis go to waste.” 🙄

  280. Tony permalink
    April 29, 2020 7:32 pm

  281. Tony permalink
    April 29, 2020 7:44 pm

  282. Tony permalink
    April 29, 2020 7:57 pm

  283. Tony permalink
    April 29, 2020 8:10 pm

  284. Tony permalink
    April 29, 2020 8:17 pm

    Every point he makes applies equally to Australia.

  285. TB Queensland permalink
    April 29, 2020 10:04 pm

    I had no idea calling people with a left political orientation – “the left” was a bother.

    It’s not (normally) but in your case its tiresome and applies to anything outside of your narrow fantasy world …

    How about – “the predictable” ?

    Usually you are … personally I prefer RWFWs …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yep, The chattering classes are all jostling with each other to get their favourite ‘reforms’ on the agenda – for when we ‘come out the other side’.

    Reducing regulations, less tax, altering industrial relations laws and chaining workers to their desks and plant and equipment – shovels even … and throwing unionists into jail … I heard Sooty the other night …

    With all the destruction this virus has caused, all Dems can think of is how they capitalize on it. Sick.

    Unlike Donny … it was the WHOs fault, China, governors, health experts … ad infinitum LOL!

    Fox News’ @brithume explains why the case for national lockdown is getting “weaker and weaker.”

    SMH … as deaths get higher and higher in the USofA …

  286. Tom R permalink
    April 29, 2020 10:13 pm

    lol, watching parents lose their shit because they have to ….. look after their kids, is a true joy to watch in these trying times.

    There are some cases where it truly is challenging, but, these cases would be challenged at any time

    The rest of youse, HTFU!

    And, You’re not ‘home schooling’ you precious petals, the kids are being remotely schooled, by their teachers. You just have to point them to the bloody computer!

    BACK IN THE TRENCHES PETALS

  287. Tony permalink
    April 29, 2020 10:27 pm

    BACK IN THE TRENCHES PETALS

    Riiight. But it’s not an issue in your home state. Children are going to school in South Australi – you don’t seem to mention that.

  288. Tony permalink
    April 29, 2020 10:56 pm

  289. Tony permalink
    April 29, 2020 11:10 pm

  290. April 30, 2020 8:06 am

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  291. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2020 8:28 am

    you don’t seem to mention that.

    I didn’t have to, did I 😉

    I see a report finds that almost half of parents are able to “cover the basic needs — food and shelter and pay rent and all of those kind of thing”, and that’s a reason for no remote learning?

    Seems to me that’s nothing to do with education, and everything to do with remuneration.

    I love how, the day after remote learning was supposed to come in, ‘numerous government reports’ find that it’s not working lol

    Kind of how they studies 8 kids in NSW and decided that ‘all medical advice says that schools are safe.

    These are from the same morons who gave us a ‘trickle down’ ‘stimulus’ 😯

    ‘A phantom plague’: Evangelicals who defied social distancing guidelines are dying of coronavirus in frightening numbers

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/a-phantom-plague-evangelicals-who-defied-social-distancing-guidelines-are-dying-of-coronavirus-in-frightening-numbers/#.XqnYOVfHPhc.twitter

  292. Tony permalink
    April 30, 2020 8:56 am

    De Blasio hears about ‘the gatherings’.

  293. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2020 9:26 am

    lol tosy, I had to google what this particular reference was about. This de blasio sounds like a loony. He is american, so that explains a lot

    I often wonder if the people who made this original movie ever imagined it would take on so many lives.

  294. TB Queensland permalink
    April 30, 2020 10:22 am

    Only ideology and greed would stop this happening … oh, wait!

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/apr/30/australias-electricity-grid-could-run-with-75-renewables-market-operator-says

  295. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 30, 2020 10:24 am

    There have been extraordinary developments in the Flynn case. Since they will be massively under-reported in the Fake News Media I made a short note on a couple of issues.

    Flynn recently changed lawyers after it became apparent that his former firm, Covington, had an unwaivable conflict of interest (that is another story).

    The prosecution is required by order of the court in this case to disclose all exculpatory evidence to Flynn’s attorneys. They didn’t. However, Barr recently appointed an independent FBI officer from Missouri to review the Flynn proceedings. He found some interesting material.

    First, the FBI threatened to prosecute Flynn’s son if Flynn did not plead guilty. When a plea is coerced by threats to prosecute a third party the court has an obligation to carefully examine the plea to see if it was in fact coerced. In the plea agreement this was not mentioned and not disclosed to the court.

    In Flynn’s case instead of putting the promise not to prosecute Flynn’s son in the plea agreement presented to the court it was in a side letter between the prosecutors and Flynn’s lawyers, Covington:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWZXxnjUYAA41ni?format=png

  296. TB Queensland permalink
    April 30, 2020 10:25 am

    But it’s not an issue in your home state.

    While, here, the local catholic primary school is sort of open I think, some kids but not all … but the good news is that my g/son at high school is actually doing better at home!

  297. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 30, 2020 10:27 am

    There are four major things wrong with this:

    Firstly, by depriving the court of this information Flynn’s plea agreement did not get the requisite scrutiny from the court.

    Secondly, Flynn was to give evidence in another matter as part of the plea agreement. The fact of the coercion would also be relevant to Flynn’s credibility as witness in the other matter. Again that information, hidden in a side letter, would deprive the defendants in that case of the opportunity to question Flynn’s credibility as a witness.

    Thirdly, the fact of this side agreement would be relevant to Flynn’s sentencing and was being kept from the court.

    Finally, Robert Mueller, by his attorney Brandon Van Grack stated under oath to the court that the plea agreement was the only agreement between Flynn and the prosecution and that there were no other agreements, promises, understandings or representations between them. This is an outright lie.

    It is unlikely that Van Grack’s superiors, Andrew Weissmann and Robert Mueller, would not have knowledge of these circumstances. He would not have the authority to make these agreements on his own.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWyESddX0AAcW50?format=png&name=small

  298. TB Queensland permalink
    April 30, 2020 10:33 am

    In Flynn’s case instead of putting the promise not to prosecute Flynn’s son …

    But that link doesn’t actually say anything … only “hints” … and refers to a “unofficial … understanding” … not damning evidence … (heavily redacted too I see)

    Are you saying Flynn was “innocent”?

  299. Tony permalink
    April 30, 2020 10:41 am

  300. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 30, 2020 10:59 am

    But that link doesn’t actually say anything … only “hints” … and refers to a “unofficial … understanding” … not damning evidence … (heavily redacted too I see)”

    The Covington letter says “we have a lawyers’ unofficial understanding that they are unlikely to charge junior”

    The plea agreement states that there are “no agreements, promises, understandings …..” Hence Van Grack, on behalf of Mueller has lied to the court.

    “Are you saying Flynn was “innocent”?

    I am saying that the prosecution withheld exculpatory evidence, engaged in devious behaviour designed to defraud the court in the second case and lied to the court.

    For their part, Covington did not hand that document as part of the handover file to Flynn’s new lawyer after they were sacked and have now admitted there were another 6,800 documents they ‘inadvertently’ failed to handover.

    Finally, there was another document released today in the handwriting of the interviewing agent saying that they were considering “to get him to lie, so we could prosecute him or get him fired”. Suffice to say it is not the FBI’s job the get anyone to lie or to get them to do any criminal act. That kind of entrapment usually gets cases thrown out.

    At the very least, that note is exculpatory of Flynn meaning if disclosed to the court it could help Flynn’s case. The fact that it wasn’t is a direct breach of the court’s order that the prosecutors hand over all such material.

    But don’t worry the Department of Justice is averse to prosecuting its own. A decorated four star general is another matter. Particularly if Obama has a grudge against him.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWziSaPXkAAxQEI?format=png&name=small

  301. Tony permalink
    April 30, 2020 11:15 am

    Woolworths Group’s third quarter sales (6/1 – 5/4) are up around 11% compared to the same period last year. Hardly surprising considering all the panic buying and hoarding. Not to mention the fact that from time to time almost everything in supermarkets was full price with almost nothing on special. It’s slowing down again now as “Australian Food sales growth in the first three weeks of April is in the mid-single digits”.

  302. TB Queensland permalink
    April 30, 2020 11:37 am

    … it is not the FBI’s job the get anyone to lie or to get them to do any criminal act. That kind of entrapment usually gets cases thrown out.

    Certainly does …

    Covington did not hand that document as part of the handover file to Flynn’s new lawyer

    Discovery is a legal requirement any way …

    … it is however, often abused to opponents advantage … have recent experience … (case after 15+ years) now being used to further advantage.

  303. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 30, 2020 11:44 am

    This wasn’t discovery. It was Flynn’s former lawyer being obliged to hand the whole file over to his incoming lawyer.

    Also, consider this from a former US Attorney:

    “Under federal law, all understandings that are relevant to a guilty plea must be disclosed to the judge. It would be not merely a serious ethical breach for government lawyers to fail to reveal such an arrangement. It would be a fraud on the court.”

    Also, Flynn’s attorney said today that she is trying to get declassified even more damning documents she has been given. This should be fun.

  304. Tony permalink
    April 30, 2020 12:21 pm

  305. Tony permalink
    April 30, 2020 12:25 pm

  306. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2020 12:26 pm

  307. Tony permalink
    April 30, 2020 12:48 pm

  308. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2020 1:20 pm

    A shame to see Mike Kelly leave, he was one of the good ones

  309. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 30, 2020 1:29 pm

    I think that we should now look at a gradual easing of restrictions. I think our curve is flattened quite well. To see how well our restrictions have worked consider that Australia has a death rate of 3.6 per million of population, Sweden about 250 per million, Belgium is about 650 per million and New York over 1,200 per million.

  310. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2020 1:40 pm

    Yes splats, we have done very well.

    And, the government can take some credit for that too. I mean, they could have gone the herd immunity like news corpse etc seemed to be pushing, but they didn’t. Probably lucky that England started turning to shit just as we started reacting, but either way, they still made the right call.

  311. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 30, 2020 1:42 pm

    Did AOC just show some principle!

    Gotta respect that!

  312. Tony permalink
    April 30, 2020 1:56 pm

    And, the government can take some credit for that too.

    Who are you and what have you done with Tom R?

    And they will take credit, all of it.

    State and federal governments will be patting themselves on the back and telling us what a wonderful job they’ve done, without even considering other factors that may have been at play – like climate, and virus seasonality. No, it will all be down to social distancing, locking people in their homes, and bans on murderous activities like golf and fishing.

  313. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2020 2:12 pm

    And they will take credit, all of it.

    well, they shouldn’t. Who closed the schools just as the shit hit?

    Against the ‘advice’ from the federal grubmint?

    Who just wanted to go to the footy

    And yes, we were also lucky that we had a very mild start to Autumn

  314. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2020 2:21 pm

    OMG, he lied! Who’d have thought?

  315. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2020 2:22 pm

    At least he’s not the only one …

  316. Walrus permalink
    April 30, 2020 3:59 pm

    No wonder Victoria is in total lockdown. It seems they have a total nutter at the top of their Health Department.

    She seems to seek parallels that don’t exist to doing her fucking job properly

  317. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2020 4:14 pm

    Do you disagree with her assertion?

    The aboriginal population was devastated with the introduction of foreign viruses. That’s history even Dark Emu haters can’t ignore

    Or will they?

  318. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 30, 2020 4:24 pm

    I don’t think that was Cook in 1770. She may be confused with the arrival of the first fleet in 1788.

    But if you’re inclined to have a guilt complex about your country, you’ll blame whatever anniversary is available.

  319. Walrus permalink
    April 30, 2020 4:27 pm

    Disease was a problem but not from Cook’s voyage. It emerged from the First and subsequent fleets.

    She”s an idiot who is more wrapped up in woke commentary than in fixing Victoria

  320. Walrus permalink
    April 30, 2020 4:28 pm

    Good to see that TomR believes that if the Dutch, Spanish,French, or Portugese got here first the indigenous would be spared any deadly disease.

  321. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 30, 2020 4:36 pm

    Yes, I’d be inclined to blame Dirk Hartog who arrived over 150 years before Cook. Or maybe better still, blame the Javanese who traded and visited for hundreds of years.

    She should stick to the medical stuff because she knows SFA about history.

  322. Walrus permalink
    April 30, 2020 4:40 pm

    The indigenous of Australia are indeed fortunate that the English took possession of the joint rather than perhaps the Spanish.

    Go ask the Aztecs

  323. TB Queensland permalink
    April 30, 2020 5:00 pm

    This should be fun.

    Legally interesting anyway …

    What would be fun is seeing someone getting the balls to lob Angus Taylor into a court room … pity it needs police investigation and evidence …

  324. TB Queensland permalink
    April 30, 2020 5:03 pm

    BTW, This wasn’t discovery. understood that … just attempting to draw a parallel of “legal” obfuscation by our own Federal Govt. (can’t be too specific 😉 )

  325. TB Queensland permalink
    April 30, 2020 5:14 pm

    The indigenous of Australia are indeed fortunate that the English took possession of the joint rather than perhaps the Spanish.

    And we need to be “grateful” too … we’d all be speaking Spanish, eating paella drinking shit wine and razing, raping and pillaging!

    BTW, you all forgot that the Vikings were here long(ships) before anyone else …

  326. Walrus permalink
    April 30, 2020 5:22 pm

    “BTW, you all forgot that the Vikings were here long(ships) before anyone else …””

    LOL…………Not that WA story yet again …………..?

  327. Walrus permalink
    April 30, 2020 5:24 pm

    For all their many mistakes the English left their colonies in far better shape than any of the other colonial powers

    Go ask the Africans

  328. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2020 5:48 pm

    Disease was a problem but not from Cook’s voyage. It emerged from the First and subsequent fleets.

    Of course, the First Fleet would have come if Cook didn’t, wouldn’t it?

    ffs some people are blindingly stupid.

  329. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 30, 2020 5:59 pm

    Cook was in Botany Bay for 8 days, and there is no evidence that he left behind any viruses. So Ms van Diemen is wrong. I’ll make sure I let her know.

    All the European powers were settling and colonising, so regardless of Cook, one of them would have set up camp here.

  330. Walrus permalink
    April 30, 2020 6:06 pm

    “”Of course, the First Fleet would have come if Cook didn’t, wouldn’t it?”

    But that’s not what she implied …………Mr Stupid

  331. Tony permalink
    April 30, 2020 6:08 pm

    It seems they have a total nutter at the top of their Health Department.>/i>

    Instead of blaming the English, she should be apologising for her ancestors invading coming here a century and a half before Cook. Who knows what germs and viruses they had on board.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_van_Diemen

  332. TB Queensland permalink
    April 30, 2020 6:16 pm

    Not that WA story yet again

    WA … BS … its legendary!

    For all their many mistakes the English left their colonies in far better shape

    Yep can’t disagree … but some of the mistakes were atrocious!

    Just thought of Rorkes Drift … great film …

    (BTW, rather than perhaps the Spanish.

    I forgot to mention we’d all have to be catliks too …)

    All the European powers were settling and colonising, so regardless of Cook, one of them would have set up camp here.

    And don’t forget the Russians … and Germans … Irish, Welsh and Scots … and … and … and the Trumps …

    🙄

    To drop a name … I was having lunch with some clients and Bill Hunter (if you don’t know look up) … and they went round the table describing their ancestry … Irish/Scottish … English/Italian … you get the drift … got to me … Angles/Vikings/Saxons/Jutes/Romans/Normans/ … “enough”!

    You are what you are … me? … 😎

  333. TB Queensland permalink
    April 30, 2020 6:19 pm

    But that’s not what she implied

    If its implied its what you think it means … not what it is …

    there is no evidence

    You have proof there is no evidence? ******

  334. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2020 6:47 pm

    So Ms van Diemen is wrong. I’ll make sure I let her know.

    Please, go ahead, and be sure to be specific.

    But that’s not what she implied

    I guess if you don’t know your history, the implication could be anything, you know, perhaps the circumnavigation of Australia or something

    Yep can’t disagree … but some of the mistakes were atrocious!

    Yes, but Petals need their rose coloured lenses chamoised regularly.

  335. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 30, 2020 6:55 pm

    Yes, I’ve pointed out the errors on the feedback form for the Vic CMO.

    I’m sure they will give it the consideration it deserves!

    The basic point is that public servants should be careful not to provide (incorrect) contentious comments that are clearly outside their expertise and responsibility.

    I think Ms van Diemen failed the IQ test. And probably the EQ one too.

  336. Tony permalink
    April 30, 2020 7:54 pm

  337. Tony permalink
    April 30, 2020 8:14 pm

    Golf is a loophole. A deadly loophole.

  338. Tom R permalink
    April 30, 2020 9:56 pm

    THINK OF THE GOLFERS!

  339. May 1, 2020 12:54 am

    “Study Finds Unions Make Companies More Productive”

    https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/z3bjn9/study-finds-unions-make-companies-more-productive

  340. May 1, 2020 8:53 am

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  341. Tony permalink
    May 1, 2020 8:59 am

    “[Norwegian] Study Finds Unions Make Companies More Productive”

    These effects may not be generalizable to other countries. Different countries have different institutions and relationships between unions, firms, employment law, and its enforcement.

  342. Tony permalink
    May 1, 2020 9:08 am

    Herr Andrews is already signalling another (third) 30-day state of emergency when the current one expires on 11th May. He is also saying orders will not be relaxed for Mother’s Day. But he “would love to be saying otherwise”.

    This gives him no pleasure.

  343. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 1, 2020 9:14 am

    That must be why all those highly unionised industries have had decades of success here!

  344. Tony permalink
    May 1, 2020 9:19 am

    Free? It’s already been paid for by taxpayers, you nincompoop.

  345. Tony permalink
    May 1, 2020 9:34 am

  346. Tom R permalink
    May 1, 2020 9:38 am

    Free? It’s already been paid for by taxpayers, you nincompoop.

    Don’t tell yomm, he’s gonna go ballistic when he finds out he can’t download NOTfree books cos his thumbs too big for his Kindle

    These effects may not be generalizable to other countries.

    Yet #turc highlighted that the most productive projects in Autralia were those dominated by Unions, even though the companies running them admitted they deliberately worked against the Unions, instead of working with them.

  347. TB Queensland permalink
    May 1, 2020 10:28 am

    No unions – no public holidays, no awards, no minimum hours, no ffs the list ust goes on … given some people’s understanding of IR we should be operating a slave state run for de bosses …

  348. Tony permalink
    May 1, 2020 11:18 am

  349. TB Queensland permalink
    May 1, 2020 11:27 am

    ToSY, do you actually live in the USA?

  350. Tom R permalink
    May 1, 2020 11:57 am

    lol @TB

  351. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 1, 2020 12:47 pm

    Boss- “Business isn’t good at the moment. If only there was something we could do to improve it”

    Bright employee – “I read a university study that concluded that a unionised workforce is more productive! Why don’t we invite the CFMEU in to tell us how we should run the business?”

    Boss- “Great idea! Our problems are over!”

  352. May 1, 2020 1:08 pm

    Boss- “Business isn’t good at the moment. If only there was something we could do to improve it”

    Bright employee – “I’ve heard that paying staff fairly and providing a safe environment where they feel valued makes employees more productive.”

    Boss – “Why haven’t we thought of this before?”

    Bright employee – “Because you’re a selfish stingy old cunt, sir”.

  353. Tom R permalink
    May 1, 2020 1:11 pm

    “Because you’re a selfish stingy old cunt, sir”.

    yomms a Boss?

  354. May 1, 2020 1:30 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  355. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 1, 2020 1:47 pm

    Boss- “You’re right! The reason we’re struggling is that our costs are to low! If we can increase our costs and have everyone work fewer hours, and go to plenty of stop work meetings, we’re sure going to be more successful! “

  356. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 1, 2020 1:50 pm

    “too low”

  357. TB Queensland permalink
    May 1, 2020 2:43 pm

    The reason we’re struggling is that our costs are to low!

    ?????????????????????????????????????????????

    You need to get to a library quickly … those brain farts could develop into something more serious …

  358. Tony permalink
    May 1, 2020 3:21 pm

    Scott Morrison says “Australians have earned an early mark” with restrictions likely to be eased next Friday. This will not suit Chairman Dan and his soviet in the PRV.

  359. May 1, 2020 3:43 pm

    “The Herald Sun…???” 😆

    Next you’ll be quoting Sam Newman…!

    Oh, wait… 🙄

  360. Tony permalink
    May 1, 2020 3:54 pm

  361. May 1, 2020 4:16 pm

    So have any of youse installed the govt’s app….?

  362. Tom R permalink
    May 1, 2020 4:17 pm

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Oh, were you being serious reb?

    https://www.innovationaus.com/sovereign-capability-and-that-shocking-aws-deal/

  363. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 1, 2020 4:39 pm

    Probably won’t – governments will always abuse the data sooner or later. And if Tom R’s link is right it might not just be our government. Also, Amazon already provides cloud services to Australian governments.

    I wonder if they will limit what you can do if you don’t have the app?

    And what about the pandemic drone??

  364. Walrus permalink
    May 1, 2020 5:10 pm

    “And if Tom R’s link is right it might not just be our government.”

    OK lets play………….

    Open Settings on your iPhone.
    Tap “Privacy.”
    Choose “Location Services.”
    Scroll to the bottom and select “System Services.”
    Now open up “Significant Locations.
    Now tap on any of those locations.

    This is not to do with the Covid App

  365. May 1, 2020 5:39 pm

    So is that a ‘yes’ then Walrus?

  366. Walrus permalink
    May 1, 2020 6:08 pm

    All reddie dunnit !

  367. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 1, 2020 6:31 pm

    Me too
    —–
    Why is Dan Andrews imposing more punishment on Victoria? Other states ease the lockdown, but Dan keeps our punishment at full strength.

    He’s using this to make his name.

  368. May 1, 2020 7:34 pm

    “punishment”

  369. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 1, 2020 7:58 pm

    Yes. There’s an attitude of “take your medicine”

    Are the states that are moving to relax the restrictions, wrong?

  370. May 1, 2020 8:06 pm

    “medicine”

  371. May 1, 2020 8:07 pm

    Have you considered writing for the Herald Sun…?

  372. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 1, 2020 8:23 pm

    Yes, but I’m committed to the Guttertrash.

  373. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 1, 2020 8:41 pm

    Yes, but I’m committed to the Guttertrash

  374. Tom R permalink
    May 1, 2020 10:15 pm

    It’s true, yomm should be committed

  375. TB Queensland permalink
    May 1, 2020 10:53 pm

    So have any of youse installed the govt’s app….?

    Would you ask Peter Dutton to dinner?

  376. TB Queensland permalink
    May 1, 2020 10:54 pm

    It’s true, yomm should be committed

    repeating things now

  377. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 2, 2020 11:04 am

    Here on the Democratic People’s Republic of Victoria the uprising has started!
    There are actually people walking around! Lots of surfers, and families using picnic tables!
    Those using the picnic tables look as if this might be the second time they’ve escaped an oppressive regime!
    I don’t think it’s the weather that has brought them out!

  378. TB Queensland permalink
    May 2, 2020 11:15 am

    My bold …

    Despite the phased reopenings, scientists in Germany have said children with the coronavirus may be as infectious as adults, and urged caution.

    Researchers who analysed data on infected people found that the viral loads in children differed little from those in adults. Opening schools on the assumption that children are less likely to spread the virus was therefore ill-advised, said Christian Drosten, a virologist and Germany’s leading coronavirus expert, who led the team.

    Drosten’s study, which was released this week, examined the viral loads in the throats of 3,721 people, including more than 100 children, who tested positive for coronavirus in Berlin between January and April.

    He said he had been able to carry out his analysis once the number of tests carried out by Labor Berlin, the largest laboratory of its kind in Europe, had reached the critical mass of 60,000 earlier this week. That gave him and his team enough data to be able to carry out an analysis of children who have had the virus.

    Data on children has been scant because of the lack of tests that have been carried out on them, often because they show few if any symptoms.

    “The end result is as clear as glass,” Drosten said on his podcast with the broadcaster NDR. “Children do not have significantly different concentrations of the virus in their respiratory passages compared to adults.”

    Drosten said children were as likely to spread the virus as adults, particularly given their social behaviour, including an inability to practice physical distancing, their increased mobility and a tendency to sing and cry – activities proven to give the virus droplets as much force as a cough or a sneeze.

    Lothar Wieler, the head of Germany’s leading disease control body, the Robert Koch Institute, said on Thursday that children play just as important a role in spreading the disease as adults. “They can be infected, they can excrete the virus and they can infect others,” he said.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/01/children-as-likely-to-spread-coronavirus-as-adults-says-scientist

    Has Uber Kapitalism become the 21st Century’s new ideology? Political system? Or religion?

    How can anyone believe that schools filled with hundreds of children will not spread the virus … throughout society … including each other, teachers, families, friends and acquaintances of families … ad infinitum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Don’t believe any stories about Brisbanites enjoying local beaches, waterfronts, or picnic spots … Westerly Winds and dramatic temperature drop put paid to that …

    Golfing may have suffered a bit too … as for libraries – everybody’s online …

    Played Shogun Total War (new game) last night … fkn computer beat the shyte out of me three times in a row! Need to practise more – I see grandsons “practising” too … !

  379. TB Queensland permalink
    May 2, 2020 11:19 am

    Here on the Democratic People’s Republic of Victoria the uprising has started!

    Victoria is now an island state? I think you meant “Here IN the PRV … you should have said DP Republic of Mexico …

    Still if they break the law the government coffers will be filling nicely … might encourage socialism …

  380. TB Queensland permalink
    May 2, 2020 11:32 am

    Will the Liberal Party demonstrate political integrity … I wonder?

    In 2016, Labor frontbencher David Feeney was accused of a “serious contempt” of the parliament for failing to declare a $2.3 million investment property in Melbourne.

    The political car crash that followed prompted former Labor leader Bill Shorten to send Mr Feeney to the backbench after the election. He later resigned from Parliament over the citizenship fiasco.

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/peter-dutton-familys-milliondollar-property-left-off-declaration/news-story/eaa07f0dd3b177a358160b0d5f2ac946

  381. Tom R permalink
    May 2, 2020 12:18 pm

    herr leader indees

    When asked how soon Australians could go back to the pub, Mr Morrison replied that the first step would be to download the app.

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronavirus/2020/05/02/coronavirus-covidsafe-pubs/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Saturday%20News%20-%2020200502

    They’ve actually made this a requirement to relax restrictions ffs

    Speaking of ‘integrity’

  382. ivi permalink
    May 2, 2020 12:43 pm

    (herr leader indees

    zactly

    So have any of youse installed the govt’s app….?

    I’m still waiting for a fuller explication of the original announcement’s “….and analytics” rider; for instance, what data (also) is(n’t) being collected, by whom, and (mis)used for what purpose(s), at point(s) of download(s); not that Despo(t) Scott’s enhanced stress(-test)ing(s) of the (in)consequence(s) of a simple headcount isn’t intriguing in itself.)

  383. May 2, 2020 12:46 pm

    Claims she focuses on those from ‘non-English speaking backgrounds’

    A clever way to conceal your ineptitude and lack of suitability for the role, I s’pose… 🙄

  384. Tony permalink
    May 2, 2020 12:54 pm

    This is going to help people decide not to download the app.

  385. TB Queensland permalink
    May 2, 2020 1:16 pm

    Speaking of ‘integrity’ So, Spud will get off again? And Beefhead (Angus) …

    Mr Morrison replied that the first step would be to download the app.

    Blackmail! Is there no end to these religious nutcakes and nary a moral cell amongst ’em!

    A clever way to conceal your ineptitude

    Fucking obvious to us … they must really think the plebs are a stupid as they are? (They get away with this shit all the time – so … oh, wait?

    (Just saw your comment, ToSY, snap!

  386. Tony permalink
    May 2, 2020 5:41 pm

    He’s moderating his language a bit now, “please consider”. But it shouldn’t be: if you don’t download the app doctors and nurses will be hurt. Why can’t they just say it will help us in our contact tracing efforts, but it’s not compulsory.

  387. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 2, 2020 5:48 pm

    What?? You can’t go to a pub TB??!!
    That’s just outrageous! No wonder you’re so bothered!
    And no doubt Tom R will be along shortly to child you about being unwilling to make small sacrifices

  388. Tony permalink
    May 2, 2020 6:15 pm

  389. May 2, 2020 6:15 pm

    “Why can’t they just say it will help us in our contact tracing efforts, but it’s not compulsory.”

    It’s not in their nature to treat us like mature adults.

  390. Tony permalink
    May 2, 2020 6:21 pm

    😂

  391. Tony permalink
    May 2, 2020 6:29 pm

  392. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 2, 2020 6:40 pm

    “””””””It’s not in their nature to treat us like mature adults.”””””””””””””””

    You really think things would be different if the ALP was in power? I suspect the Public Service is leftist and govt usually goes along with Public Service advice. Except Howard/Costello who ran the place. With Labor and the current Coalition govt it looks like the Public Service runs Australia

  393. Tony permalink
    May 2, 2020 7:01 pm

    You really think things would be different if the ALP was in power?

    You only need to look at Victoria for the answer to that.

  394. Tony permalink
    May 2, 2020 7:46 pm

  395. TB Queensland permalink
    May 2, 2020 10:17 pm

    What?? You can’t go to a pub TB??!!

    Pubs not my scene – never have been …

  396. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 2, 2020 10:58 pm

    I see TB, so you were just complaining because you were looking for something to complain about.

  397. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2020 9:14 am

    I see TB, so you were just complaining because you were looking for something to complain about.

    Your comprehension is absolutely atrocious … see:

    Tony – May 2, 2020 12:54 pm

    This is going to help people decide not to download the app. Tweet – “Mr Hunt, the people of Australia do not take kindly to blackmail.”

    And …: Tony May 2, 2020 5:41 pm

    He’s moderating his language a bit now, “please consider”. But it shouldn’t be: if you don’t download the app doctors and nurses will be hurt. Why can’t they just say it will help us in our contact tracing efforts, but it’s not compulsory.

    Note the times, ToM … you can tell the time?

    TB Queensland May 2, 2020 1:16 pm

    Blackmail! Is there no end to these religious nutcakes and nary a moral cell amongst ’em!

    (Just saw your comment, ToSY, snap!

    So before you go sniping … make sure your sights are properly adjusted and your camouflage is in place …

    Tedious …

  398. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2020 9:27 am

    LOL! NOT!

    Privacy experts have blasted the home affairs department for a data breach revealing the personal details of 774,000 migrants and people aspiring to migrate to Australia, including partial names and the outcome of applications.

    At a time the federal government is asking Australians to trust the security of data collected by its Covid-Safe contact tracing app, privacy experts are appalled by the breach, which they say is just the latest in a long line of cybersecurity blunders.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/may/03/home-affairs-data-breach-may-have-exposed-personal-details-of-700000-migrants

    Who’s the Minister in control of Home Affairs?***

    And I can sense a disaster coming up?

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/covidsafe-tracing-app-downloaded-by-four-million-australians-but-not-yet-operational/news-story/911d91d8bf95a6eb71de0133b0abada3

  399. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2020 9:47 am

    Oh, yeah!

    >It can also be revealed the Australian government trained and funded a team of Chinese scientists who belong to a laboratory which went on to genetically modify deadly coronaviruses that could be transmitted from bats to humans and had no cure, and is not the subject of a probe into the origins of COVID-19.

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-nsw-dossier-lays-out-case-against-china-bat-virus-program/news-story/e1833c0893bfdac16d21dca6ce364bfb

    WTF is going between China and Australia?

  400. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 3, 2020 10:40 am

    Right TB, you get all bothered about the conditions associated with pubs opening, but get annoyed that I seek some restoration of some basic government services!

    I put it down to you being a cranky old bloke.

  401. Tony permalink
    May 3, 2020 10:53 am

    Victorian Health Minister Jenny Mikakos: “It’s very pleasing to see that three new cases have been identified as a result of the testing blitz.”

    Not pleasing enough numbers for Kim Jong Dan, I suspect. Although 43 people received fines from the gestapo police yesterday, so he’d be happy about that.

  402. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 3, 2020 11:04 am

    “I put it down to you being a cranky old bloke.”

    Overall, I think TB is fairly balanced. He does go on a bit about robber barons and the like but overall he is rarely uncivil just a tad acerbic. Reb on the other hand I suspect would wear the badge with pride!

    I myself once thought I might be turning into a cranky old bloke but I realised it was just that I don’t suffer fools. But then even I can be a little foolish at times. So, not wanting be insufferably foolish, I’ve tried mellow. 🙂

  403. Tom R permalink
    May 3, 2020 11:21 am

    And no doubt Tom R will be along shortly to child you about being unwilling to make small sacrifices

    I mean, he even said ‘blackmail’ in his comment, and you still decide to go off on a completely different tack

    It’s not in their nature to treat us like mature adults.

    See above 😉

  404. Tom R permalink
    May 3, 2020 11:22 am

  405. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2020 11:29 am

    I put it down to you being a cranky old bloke.

    And TosY, too I take it … you do realise we were “annoyed” about the modus operandi of government … not the “item” in question … in fact ToSY brought up the same issue with “doctors and nurses” …

    But you are so intent on playing the man not the content … you’ve become blinded to detail … as I say “build a bridge” – get over it …

    FYI we put ourselves in isolation when we returned from Tassie (22 March) … apart from three “shopping runs” that’s it … we’ve missed two family birthdays (big celebrations in my family) … you sound stir crazy … I haven’t got enough hours in the day!

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Ya gotta laugh …

    As downloads of COVIDSafe pass 4 million, it has been revealed the contact tracing app is being ironed out for glitches and privacy issues – and still hasn’t been turned on.

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronavirus/2020/05/03/coronavirus-covidsafe-app-delay/

  406. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2020 11:36 am

    Overall, I think TB is fairly balanced. I myself once thought I might be turning into a cranky old bloke but I realised it was just that I don’t suffer fools.

    Totally agree, sb … you forgot to mention a sarcastic sense of humour … 😉

    Thanks …

  407. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2020 11:40 am

    OK? What? Haaa!

    Its actually ToM who’s the grumpy old man?

  408. May 3, 2020 12:14 pm

    I put it down to you being a cranky old bloke.”

    I seem to recall the other day someone was ropable about not being able to go to the library.

  409. May 3, 2020 12:16 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  410. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 3, 2020 12:57 pm

    Yes! I think it’s reasonable to expect a government to figure out how to provide a service that it has been paid to provide, and I wish to access, even remotely.

    Meanwhile, TB gets cranky about the conditions associated with opening pubs, but he doesn’t want to use them!

    Cranky or acerbic?

  411. Tony permalink
    May 3, 2020 2:32 pm

    … Another far greater catastrophe is looming as the number of jobless doubles and desperate people eat into their savings and superannuation – at least those who are lucky enough to have either. This will hit home in the weeks and months ahead and the full cost will not be realised for decades.

    Overwhelmingly, as with all crises, the poor are hit the hardest while those with money or job security speak the loudest. Those able to ride out the lockdown in comfort seem most dedicated to the indefinite and probably illusory goal of complete eradication while those already wiped out are largely invisible except in overlay footage of Centrelink queues.

    This brings us to the final great myth of the whole coronavirus crisis that “we are all in this together”. The truth is there is clearly a section of the community that can easily weather the economic storm and another far greater number that will be smashed against the rocks.

    This is what I and many others have been desperately arguing from the outset: There is no point claiming victory over the virus if you destroy society in the process and consign the most vulnerable to the scrap heap…

  412. Tony permalink
    May 3, 2020 2:34 pm

    [The four paragraphs above are quoted from the attached article.]

  413. May 3, 2020 3:47 pm

    “Those able to ride out the lockdown in comfort seem most dedicated to the indefinite and probably illusory goal of complete eradication.”

    Sam Newman can’t play golf.

  414. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2020 3:51 pm

    I commented on that Hildebrand story and quoted this … oddly never put up …

    Scientists have cautioned against the reopening of schools after findings suggested children could be as infectious as adults.

    The study, which was carried out by the team of leading German virologist Christian Drosten, found that even though children tended to have far milder symptoms, those infected appeared to have the same levels of circulating virus in their body as adults. This suggests schools and nurseries could act as hubs of Covid-19 transmission if current restrictions are lifted.
    Children unlikely to transmit coronavirus, says study cited in PM’s push to reopen schools
    Read more

    “We have to caution against an unlimited reopening of schools and kindergartens in the present situation, with a widely susceptible population and the necessity to keep transmission rates low,” Drosten and colleagues concluded. “Children may be as infectious as adults.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/30/coronavirus-scientists-caution-against-reopening-schools

  415. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2020 3:55 pm

    FFS, ToM take a chill pill and lie down …

    Meanwhile, TB gets cranky about the conditions associated with opening pubs, but he doesn’t want to use them!

  416. Tony permalink
    May 3, 2020 3:55 pm

    This is Doug Cameron’s “outbreak!”:

  417. Tony permalink
    May 3, 2020 3:57 pm

  418. Tony permalink
    May 3, 2020 4:23 pm

    Looks like Teh School Wars just got real. Those wanting indefinite closures are lining up behind Dear Leader Andrews and his politbureau, under pressure from teachers’ unions who would prefer to stay home – on full pay, as it happens (who wouldn’t?).

    On the other side we have those willing to accept the ‘National Medical Advice’ of Australia’s Chief Medical Officer and the associated Medical Expert Panel, of which Victoria’s Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton is a member.

    That advice is: With the right protocols in place it’s safe for children and teachers to be at school.

  419. Tony permalink
    May 3, 2020 4:41 pm

  420. Tony permalink
    May 3, 2020 5:49 pm

  421. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2020 5:56 pm

    Very Low stunt by Andrews. Clearly knew about the school case yesterday and waited to see what the education minister would say on Insiders and then announce it.

    I don’t think Danial Andrews is psychic … and the news (a TV station) mis-reported it …

    Actually Andrews “corrected” the report … “waited to see” FFS!

    This Federal government doesn’t need to be “set up” its looks foolish enough as it is … to make this a ideology issue is really quite crass …

    That advice is: With the right protocols in place it’s safe for children and teachers to be at school.

    You got kids … ToSY? Seen hos they interact … obey the social distances … etc … I remember one Catholic school banning kids form hugging (a couple of years ago) they found it impossible to control … primary school kids are actually encouraged to “hold hands” … high school kids don’t give a shit 😉

    But kids have “surfaces” warm ones … and why C-19 is “different” to every other virus is beyond me (and a few scientists) – most viruses (ie the common colds – there’s more than one and the mutate) are transmitted via children and schools … to familiaes who take them to work etc … the logic does not fit …

    And FYI I retired in 2005 – three years later I lost a lot of capital (not as much as many of my friends and acquaintances) – despite John McPhilbin and I predicting the GFC was coming … I stand to lose more now … some of us know what happens … but kids and teachers are more precious in society … as are my family some are still working some are not …

    An awful analogy I know … but the plague was not the water, the rats carried the fleas and the fleas carried the plague … the carriers may be safe – but …

  422. Tom R permalink
    May 3, 2020 7:19 pm

    Yes! I think it’s reasonable to expect a government to figure out how to provide a service that it has been paid to provide

    You mean, like ebooks? Because I’m pretty sure that councils haven’t been paid for Librarians to sit in little rooms wiping down potentially hazardous materials with the personal safety risks that that entails cos yomm can’t work out a Kindle ffs

    at the expense of a generation of children.

    fuck hildiebrand is a pretentious fuckwit. After arguing for years on the side of politics that has seen student outcomes evaporate as they pour $billions in private coffers while starving the public system, he now wants to think of the little children. Although, like one of the drs said months ago, if all we have a few months down the track is rwdb’s complaining that we did this for nothing because nothing happened, then what we did was right.

    I wonder if Dan Tehan is apologizing to the brand of hilde that sprouts this shit?

    Very Low stunt by Andrews. Clearly knew about the school case yesterday and waited to see what the education minister would say on Insiders and then announce it.

    Lol, even if it WAS a ‘stunt’, the fact is, it happened, and dumbasses like tehan and hildethebrand had just shot off at the mouth and shot their own stupid feet off, again. There’s a reason that they’re rwfw’s, and that’s because they’re fuckwits who just happen to be right wing.

  423. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 3, 2020 8:28 pm

    It’s interesting that an ALP council can provide a library service (Hume, around Broadmeadows), whereas a Liberal/independent council based in Kooyong cannot.

    And Tom R thinks the Liberal council is doing the right thing!

    Fortunately, the Liberal council has finally caught up, and will start providing the service that ratepayers have already paid for!

  424. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 3, 2020 8:36 pm

    … I stand to lose more now … some of us know what happens …

    Not as much as the next generation, who will have fewer options in responding to the next GFC or pandemic or emergency or even climate change.

    Boomers have lasted into the habit of public debt and are willing to pass it on to the next generation.

  425. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 3, 2020 8:38 pm

    “lapsed”

  426. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2020 8:43 pm

    Boomers have lasted into the habit of public debt and are willing to pass it on to the next generation.

    You really are a boofhead … do think I was on the government teat all my life?

    I started paying taxes at 14 … paying for you …

  427. TB Queensland permalink
    May 3, 2020 8:45 pm

    Not as much as the next generation

    What cock … you do really need to read more … but I’m not confident concerning your comprehension ability …

  428. Tony permalink
    May 3, 2020 9:05 pm

    The language is even more moderate now. A lot less patronising and almost hits the right note.

  429. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 3, 2020 9:06 pm

    Your children and grandchildren will be paying for this, as will mine.

    This generation will be remembered as the one that transferred all the difficult government funding problems to the future.

    And big deal TB, before I retired I’d been continuously employed for almost 50 years. I’d paid my own way without relying on anyone.

    So cut the crap, your background is not unique or even unusual.

  430. Tony permalink
    May 3, 2020 9:37 pm

  431. Tony permalink
    May 3, 2020 9:48 pm

    Wow. There’s a lot here, but worth a look. The Tele thinks it’s important enough to lift their paywall.

  432. May 3, 2020 9:50 pm

    “The language is even more moderate now. A lot less patronising and almost hits the right note”

    Give it a few more days and he’ll be begging.

  433. May 3, 2020 9:55 pm

    “Dan Tehan tried to pressure Victoria to reopen schools, but he went from raging bull to mewling kitten.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/may/03/dan-tehan-tried-to-pressure-victoria-to-reopen-schools-but-he-went-from-raging-bull-to-mewling-kitten

  434. Tony permalink
    May 3, 2020 10:09 pm

    “mewling”

    Never seen that written or heard it said before. Yes, I know it’s a word, I googled it. “Mewing” I’m familiar with. I reckon Malcolm’s Murpharoo had her thesaurus out.

  435. Tom R permalink
    May 3, 2020 10:13 pm

    Not as much as the next generation, who will have fewer options in responding to the next GFC or pandemic or emergency or even climate change.

    zzzzzzzzzzzzz they said the same thing when Labor did the stimulus in the GFC, that unless we get the economy under control, we will have nothing left in the tank for the next emergency

    Until the next emergency came under their watch, after they had absolutely trashed the economy, and yet they somehow managed to locate almost twice as much ‘stimulus’ as Labor.

    You have to admit yomm, that lines more than run its course?

    The Tele thinks it’s important enough to lift their paywall.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Scientists of Mass Destruction? Déjà vu?

  436. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 3, 2020 10:27 pm

    Until the next emergency came under their watch, after they had absolutely trashed the economy,

    How? Budget deficits under the Coalition are similar to SWans from 2008-2013. Unemployment is lower than anytime under Hawke/keating.

    I admit things have not improved much but they have not gotten worse.

    Now compare to 2007 when the budget was a $20B surplus, govt debt was ZERO and unemployment was at 4% and we had a car industry

  437. Tony permalink
    May 3, 2020 11:07 pm

  438. May 4, 2020 7:26 am

    “The Tele thinks it’s important enough to lift their paywall.”

    I think ToSY spelt “desperate” wrong.

  439. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2020 8:43 am

    Budget deficits under the Coalition are similar to SWans from 2008-2013

    if only they had a GFC or something to point to as the cause of these deficits?

    I think ToSY spelt “desperate” wrong.

    I think tosy spelt “bullshit” wrong

    https://www.michaelwest.com.au/should-china-be-alone-in-facing-an-investigation-when-most-g20-countries-ignored-pandemic-warning/

  440. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 4, 2020 8:45 am

    zzzzzzzzzzzzz they said the same thing when Labor did it

    Ok boomer. How much of our debt do you think the next generation should carry?

    I find it interesting that “the predictable” express endless.concern about a climate change legacy, but brush off the huge debt legacy they are willing to leave.

    Just transfer the problem to the future and let them deal with it.

  441. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2020 9:04 am

    Perhaps they should have left Labor in charge, because, under their policies, with the global conditions we ended up experiencing, the debt would have been paid off years ago.

    Instead, abbott cut revenue, and increased spending, then failed to cover that spending.

    But I’ll ask you again, this mob told us we had nothing left in the tank, because Labor had ‘blown’ it all, then managed to find twice as much AFTER doubling the debt. How is this possible?

  442. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 4, 2020 9:15 am

    if only they had a GFC or something to point to as the cause of these deficits?

    Labor increased govt spending by 12% in 2008, way above the normal increase and it was never wound back. Coalition tried minor spending cuts in their first May 2014 budget but were blocked by Labor

    And U R insane. Your comment about Labor paying off debt is wrong. There has never been a Labor govt in the lifetime of Australians that has ever reduced govt debt. And there never will be.

  443. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 4, 2020 9:30 am

    And I thought the Chinese did it:

  444. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 4, 2020 9:32 am

    Also, by way of light relief, I enjoyed this joke.

  445. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 4, 2020 9:52 am

    Ummmm… I think I’m being critical of the Liberals here. So I’m not sure what point you are trying to make.

    But do you think we should take responsibility for the debt of our generation or leave it for the next?

  446. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2020 10:03 am

    So I’m not sure what point you are trying to make.

    “they”. said. the. same. thing. when. Labor. did. the. stimulus. in. the. GFC.

    I hope that’s slow enough for you

    And I thought the Chinese did it:

    Ozzie Osbourne is the only one who can save us now!

  447. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 4, 2020 10:11 am

    “Ozzie Osbourne is the only one who can save us now!”

    True. I’d forgotten about that:

  448. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 4, 2020 10:19 am

    “””then managed to find twice as much AFTER doubling the debt”””

    Table 4 says net debt was minus 3% of GDP in 2007, 13% in 2013 and 19% now. But who knows what it will be after the current explosion in spending

    Click to access bp1_bs10.pdf

  449. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2020 10:21 am

    But do you think we should take responsibility for the debt of our generation or leave it for the next?

    Just what does that mean, “we should take responsibility “who, why, how” … this pandemic is no-one’s “fault” … who should take “responsibility” …

    Apart from one, all my children/grand-children are adults and already take responsibility as contributing members of society (their foundation stone) …

    And big deal TB, before I retired I’d been continuously employed for almost 50 years. I’d paid my own way without relying on anyone.

    Ahhh … a boomer … and grumpy too … I might remind you that the debt you refer to has already been transferred to homes across the nation by your Liberal Party policies – before the pandemic … and of course by greedy folk who detest paying tax … but enjoying the society they lounge in …

    So cut the crap, your background is not unique or even unusual.

    Who said it was? (I tend to give a basis for my comments)

    As I said earlier – you’re the one with the bee in its bonnet … and becoming extremely tedious …

  450. May 4, 2020 10:23 am

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  451. May 4, 2020 10:24 am

    YoM’s default setting does seem to be ‘bitter and peeved’ these days.

    FFS, will someone just buy him a book.

  452. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2020 10:26 am

    True. I’d forgotten about that:

    Pretty sure he has too 😉

    I’d paid my own way without relying on anyone

    From memory, you went from being a Union guy to a company guy. Who exactly paid those 30 pieces of silver? You?

    Just what does that mean, “we should take responsibility

    Everyone (except those currently fleecing the economy of unfunded dollars in a Franking credits bonanza)

  453. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2020 10:31 am

    will someone just buy him a book.

    Here’s a suggestion 🙂

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21401526-dark-emu

  454. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 4, 2020 10:41 am

    I’m not surprised that TB need clarification about “taking responsibility”

    “Predictable” types tend not to understand what that means.

    So for clarification, I think there will have to be a 20 year plan to pay down the current largesse.
    *Government departments to move to regions where commercial real estate is cheaper.
    *Maintain working from home and change public service employment conditions to reflect the reduced travel and housing costs that result.
    *Everyone in receipt of welfare to have a mutual obligation and perform some work, except old aged pensioners.
    Increase the old aged pension to 67
    *Increase the GST to 15%, and apply it to everything
    *A 2% levy in all incomes and companies

  455. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2020 10:46 am

    Government departments to move to regions where commercial real estate is cheaper.

    barney? is that yoo?

    This would explain a lot

  456. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 4, 2020 11:20 am

    I guess that this means that Comrade Dan will not be interested in criticising his ideological compatriots in the Chinese Communist Party – not that he would ever do that anyway. Wouldn’t want to be just so much gum stuck on China’s shoe like people interested in getting at the facts regarding the origins of the Wu Flu.

  457. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 4, 2020 11:22 am

    If we want to keep exporting to China I guess we better shut up and accept our vassalage.

  458. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2020 11:23 am

    I’m not surprised that TB need clarification about “taking responsibility”

    I think you’ll find I was the only that asked the (same) question.

    “Predictable” … chuckle … not as predictable as some …

    Increase the old aged pension to 67

    Already is … do keep up.

    *Increase the GST to 15%, and apply it to everything

    And hit the poorest people in their hip pocket … (less disposable income) … typical “we” …

    *A 2% levy in all incomes and companies

    Worked before … but do incomes go up the 2% that they’ve fallen since the LNP have been “governing” … and the last tax break for companies withdrawn?

    *Everyone in receipt of welfare to have a mutual obligation and perform some work,

    Ahhh … pay for the dole … that’s always been a successful LNP Charter … very National Socialist too …

    You didn’t mention religious groups now having to pay tax … and private schools having to fund their own religious brainwashing of young children …

    Barney … or barmy? Or both! 😆

  459. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2020 11:23 am

    sb, enjoyed the word game jokes!

  460. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2020 11:26 am

    Victoria will tap into the Chinese Communist Party’s $1.5 trillion Belt and Road Initiative to boost the local economy, declaring the infrastructure network crucial to rebuilding after the coronavirus crisis.

    NO! NO! NO! a thousand times NO! China needs no more encouragement to visit our home(s)!

  461. May 4, 2020 2:34 pm

    “This would explain a lot.”

    It would certainly explain Fifi and the “exotic dance studio.”

  462. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2020 3:02 pm

    Not that whory* old chestnut, again!

  463. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2020 4:23 pm

    oh, TB, you are norty

  464. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 4, 2020 5:33 pm

    Yes. Social distancing is resulting in a decline in patronage at “the dance studio”

    Lulu struggles to keep clients happy while wearing a face mask, and Fifi doesn’t like all the hand sanitising. The supplier is all out of oil based sanitiser

  465. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2020 6:00 pm

    The ABC has lost $783m in funding since the Coalition came to power in 2014, a new report on the accumulated impact of government cuts to the public broadcaster shows.

    Absolutely disgusting … and certainly ideologically uber kapitalist decision making … I don’t want to watch RWW selling me the news or ranting on radio … at least I get some balance from ABC 24 and SBS The World … and I laugh at Skynews why would anyone pay that bunch of “presenters” so far “right”, up themselves, they’d fall over if they stood up …

  466. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 4, 2020 6:10 pm

    Absolutely disgusting … and certainly ideologically uber kapitalist decision making …

    I think it is disgusting the ABC gets $1.1B of taxpayers money/year. Furthermore i never watch it.

    But i suspect the statement is a little lose with the truth. I suspect there were no cuts just no increase in funding to cover inflation.

  467. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2020 6:52 pm

    just no increase in funding to cover inflation.

    [facepalm]

    I think it is disgusting the private schools gets $B’s of taxpayers money/year. Because I cannot use it

  468. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2020 7:03 pm

    Because I cannot use it

    Agree … but you wouldn’t want to anyway … much better to have a national learning system for all (we are a secular country after all!) … Religions can run “education” sessions …

  469. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2020 7:23 pm

    much better to have a national learning system for all

    Yes, but this lot want to prop up archaic belief systems with MY dollars, and indoctrinate another generation of muppets into believing sky faeries.

  470. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 4, 2020 7:29 pm

    The ABC will do a while lot better than the other media organisations this year.

    The ABC will have a huge advantage in terms of relative revenue, others will tank.

    So I’m not going to get bothered about any of the media whinging about how tough it is.

  471. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 4, 2020 8:19 pm

    I think it is disgusting the private schools gets $B’s of taxpayers money/year. Because I cannot use it

    The topic was the ABC moaning about funding cuts. I suspect there were no cuts. Just no increases in funding. Fact is all govt bodies are bottomless pits.

  472. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2020 8:21 pm

    So I’m not going to get bothered about any of the media whinging about how tough it is.

    I think the point is, people are looking to the abc, as they are the only stable outlet at the moment who has coverage across the entire country, but they are struggling to get the Governments information out to all those pockets. And this is the grubmint that cut them so hard at a time when they are needed the most

  473. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 4, 2020 8:37 pm

    People are looking to the ABC? Really? I never watch it. In fact i don’t watch commercial television much either. I get all my information from the internet. I only watch commercial television when the cricket is on and the odd movie

    And i doubt there were any ABC funding cuts. Just no increases in funding

  474. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2020 9:19 pm

    I get all my information from the internet.

    😦

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/

  475. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 4, 2020 9:30 pm

    TomR

    I rarely look at the ABC online. Especially after they did a hatchet job on the Coalition about Robodebt

    1. Data matching between Centrelink and the tax dept was started by Labor in 1991

    QUESTION. Did the ABC post how many people died after those changes were made?

    2. Data matching between Centrelink and the tax dept was changed from manually done to computer data matching in 2011. That is when Robodebt started by Shorten/ALP

    QUESTION. Did the ABC post how many people died after those changes were made?

    3. In 2016 Coalition made some changes to Labors Robodebt program. Lets look at what the ABC posted
    This is what the ABC posted

    Over 2000 people died after receiving Centrelink robo-debt notice, figures reveal

    Turns out it was just a normal death rate. The ABC/ALP is an abomination

  476. Tom R permalink
    May 4, 2020 9:57 pm

    Actually nil, I’m pretty sure you’re getting your info from a floppy disc

  477. TB Queensland permalink
    May 4, 2020 10:22 pm

    Nah, USB port in his right ear!

  478. May 5, 2020 8:09 am

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  479. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 5, 2020 9:15 am

    “The 1996 premiership player reportedly demanded to be called ‘Daniella’ during his police interview, according to The West Australian.”

    Perhaps there is a path to redemption through the AFLW for Daniella?

  480. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 5, 2020 10:11 am

  481. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 10:37 am

    It means they have room for you at the ICU.

    Correct. After all, that was the original rationale for ‘flattening the curve’.

    That’s now seems to have morphed into eradication – although no one will actually admit it. Which is fine if we want to keep our borders closed forever.

  482. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2020 10:50 am

    Came back from my morning walk around the suburb (5km) … and I’m convinced people have no idea of “distance” … either that or they think 1.5 metres = 1′ 6″ … either way I’m convinced the world really is full of simpletons …

  483. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 5, 2020 11:15 am

    1. It’s true SB, maintenance of the current restrictions, in Victoria particularly, is like imposing a 10km/hr speed limit to avoid road accidents.

    2. The leaking of those photographs by the police is a far better indicator of their culture and attitudes than the bulls**t “heros” that politicians constantly blab on about.

  484. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2020 11:44 am

    I think you meant “heroes” …

    Those cops really got to you … hey?

  485. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 5, 2020 12:42 pm

    It’s very embarassing to be corrected by you TB

  486. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 2:13 pm

  487. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 2:22 pm

    Mr Irrelevant.

  488. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 2:25 pm

  489. Tom R permalink
    May 5, 2020 2:37 pm

    Mr Irrelevant.

    Pretty sure “Melinda” is a Mrs?

  490. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 3:01 pm

  491. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 5, 2020 3:11 pm

  492. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 5, 2020 3:11 pm

    Exhibit One:

  493. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 5:27 pm

    It’s true SB, maintenance of the current restrictions, in Victoria particularly, is like imposing a 10km/hr speed limit to avoid road accidents.

    If you disagree with these kinds of restrictions you must want people to die.

  494. May 5, 2020 5:43 pm

    This Melinda person (whoever TF she is), supposedly an “authority” on climate change and the economy (according to some), but doesn’t realise that “intact” is one word, and that there’s no such thing as “in tact”.

    FFS… 🙄

  495. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2020 5:48 pm

    It’s very embarassing to be corrected by you TB

    Don’t worry about it, cobber … it’s not the first time … 🙂

  496. May 5, 2020 5:49 pm

    But it’s good to see ToSY continuing his track run of quoting total fuckwits. First Sam Newman and now this.

    Points for consistency I suppose.

  497. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2020 5:53 pm

    This Melinda person …

    Why she’s the “goodfoodgal” … so-o-o-o qualified …

    I suppose if you read shyte … you’ll believe shyte … amen …

  498. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2020 5:54 pm

    Points for consistency I suppose.

    Long way off, Kneel, tho’ … credit where cretin is due … 🙄

  499. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 5:57 pm

    but doesn’t realise that “intact” is one word, and that there’s no such thing as “in tact”.

    Wow. You really know your grammar. 🙄

  500. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 6:08 pm

    If you want to talk about sources, how about the “independent” think tank that produced that report about funding “cuts” to the ABC. Largely funded by trade unions, all of it’s staff are leftist activists, and many ex union officials.

    https://percapita.org.au/about/

    https://percapita.org.au/funding/

  501. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 5, 2020 6:08 pm

    Chicago Mayor Lightfoot’s rules for the proles:

    “Don’t make us treat you like a criminal, but if you act like a criminal and you violate the law and you refuse to do what is necessary to save lives in this city in the middle of a pandemic, we will take you to jail, period.”

    But unlike the proles she has special rules for her:

    “Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot, a Democrat, defended a haircut she received recently despite salons and barbershops shutting down under the state’s stay-at-home order.

    Lightfoot was criticized for her actions after previously stating in one of her public service announcements that “getting your roots done is not essential,” according to the Chicago Tribune.

    The mayor said in defense of her haircut during a press conference earlier this week. “I’m the public face of this city. I’m on national media and I’m out in the public eye.””

    Some tyrants are more equal than the rest of us.

  502. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 6:09 pm

    *its staff

  503. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2020 6:15 pm

    … how about the “independent” think tank that produced that report about funding “cuts” to the ABC …

    Agree, how about that … funding cuts that actually happened … and?

  504. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2020 6:20 pm

    Some tyrants are more equal than the rest of us.

    “Some tyrants”? . All TYRANTS ideological or religious … (Don’t care which they push)

    I’ve never read Hitchens before … enlightening (couldn’t help myself 😀 )

  505. May 5, 2020 6:23 pm

    “Wow. You really know your grammar.”

    No, it’s not actually about me.

    You quoted Melinda. I’m just pointing out that she’s a fucking moron.

  506. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 6:27 pm

    Agree, how about that … funding cuts that actually happened … and?

    Funding cuts never happened. They are arguing against a pause on “indexing”.

    If you have evidence to the contrary, to quote you, link?

  507. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 6:31 pm

    You quoted Melinda. I’m just pointing out that she’s a fucking moron.

    No worries. Pointing out grammar mistakes is much easier than pointing out flaws in actual arguments, I suppose.

  508. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2020 6:34 pm

    Agree, how about that … funding cuts that actually happened … and?

    I don’t know but i suspect there were no funding increases. The ABC would call that a spending cut.

  509. May 5, 2020 6:37 pm

    “Pointing out grammar mistakes is much easier than pointing out flaws in actual arguments, I suppose.”

    Ok, so given that I might be a bit slow on the uptake, can you enlighten me as to what her “actual argument” is here because it got too technical for me at “dead duck”….

    Errrr… even if we come out of this with even a shred of our economy in tact, “climate change” will still be a dead duck.

  510. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 6:39 pm

    “Melinda” seems to think catastrophic global warming climate change emergency crisis will have trouble gaining any traction since the number one priority will now be limiting the consequences of the self-inflicted damage we’ve done to the economy.

    I agree with her, as it happens.

    If you disagree, I’d be interested to hear why.

  511. May 5, 2020 6:42 pm

    You got that from her tweet…?

    ooooookkaaaaaaaayyyy….

  512. May 5, 2020 6:44 pm

    “Melinda” seems to think”

    I think that sums it up.

  513. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 6:47 pm

    You got that from her tweet…?

    Yes. Nice evasion though.

  514. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 6:50 pm

    Logical arguments are hard, aren’t they.

  515. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 6:58 pm

    If funding cuts to the ABC had ever happened do you think we wouldn’t have heard lefties screaming from the rooftops. Why would it take some far-left “think”-tank to give their “report” to the far-left Guardian?

  516. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 7:16 pm

  517. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 7:22 pm

    Apparently some people used to think the federal government was responsible for the states. Maybe they’ll remember this lesson in federalism next time state schools or hospitals aren’t given the money in the federal budget they think they deserve.

  518. Tony permalink
    May 5, 2020 8:16 pm

    Hint. State schools and hospitals don’t “deserve” anything from the federal government. Just like the federal government can’t tell the states whether to open their schools or keep them shut.

  519. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2020 9:34 pm

    If you want to talk about sources, how about the “independent” think tank that produced that report about funding “cuts” to the ABC.

    Shows you what sort of people govt funded leftists are. Right now people are losing their jobs and/or having cuts to their salary and the ABC moans about funding cuts which never happened.

  520. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 6, 2020 8:09 am

    More hypocrisy from our betters:

  521. TB Queensland permalink
    May 6, 2020 8:31 am

    Hint. State schools and hospitals don’t “deserve” anything from the federal government. Just like the federal government can’t tell the states whether to open their schools or keep them shut.

    Indecipherable logic …

  522. Tony permalink
    May 6, 2020 8:47 am

    Indecipherable logic …

    To you, maybe.

    By the way, have you come up with a link proving ABC funding was cut?

    Didn’t think so.

  523. Tom R permalink
    May 6, 2020 8:53 am

    If funding cuts to the ABC had ever happened do you think we wouldn’t have heard lefties screaming from the rooftops.

    So all of those years screaming from the rooftops has just been scratched from the history books. It’s that easy aint it 😦

    it’s a pause on idexation

    Yes, in the real world, that’s called a ‘cut’!

    Maybe they’ll remember this lesson in federalism next time state schools or hospitals aren’t given the money in the federal budget they think they deserve.

    You mean like what’s happened for the past 7 years?

    More hypocrisy from our betters:

    So, someone fucked up, and then …………….. took it upon himself and resigned for the lack of trust. Imagine if politicians did the same?

  524. Tom R permalink
    May 6, 2020 9:14 am

    By the way, have you come up with a link proving ABC funding was cut?

    There’s a quick wrap up here

    Tony Abbott’s first Budget following the 2013 election saw a cut of $35.5m for the ABC, and The Australia Network – the government contract, worth $197m to the ABC, which allowed the broadcaster to provide international TV services – was terminated the same year. A further $254m was cut later that year following an ‘efficiency review’ by former Seven executive Peter Lewis.

    In 2016, the Turnbull government revealed that funding for the ABC’s enhanced news gathering program – launched in the previous triennial funding round under the Gillard government in 2013 – would drop from $60m to $41.4m over three years. And in 2018, then-treasurer Scott Morrison froze indexation of ABC operating revenue for three years, a decision made outside of the usual triennial funding process which resulted in $83.7m in cuts.

    https://mumbrella.com.au/abc-funding-cuts-close-to-1bn-says-get-up-commissioned-study-626823

  525. Tom R permalink
    May 6, 2020 9:17 am

    Can you catch COVID19 from Batshit Crazy?

    So, the app DOES leak private information?

    Hating on Cook (inserting some context into white armband history) makes you spy WITH the Government?

    My head hurts trying to wrap itself around this ‘logic’

  526. Tom R permalink
    May 6, 2020 9:19 am

    It’s gonna be a Claytons Stimulus. All about the headlines, nothing about the delivery

  527. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 6, 2020 9:25 am

    I don’t really care whether the ABC feels deprived of funds, whether it has been cut, or frozen.

    Public sector organisations have a long way to go before they are efficient.

    ASX 200 companies squeeze funds and efficiency year after year, but somehow the public sector is expected to be treated differently.

    The ABC is structured as a bureaucracy, not as a media organisation.

  528. Tony permalink
    May 6, 2020 9:45 am

    Here, let me do the work for the ABC-infatuated.

    Instead of relying on a “GetUp commissioned” report by a far-left “think”-tank, here are the actual figures, with links!

    Receipts from government:

    2018-19 $1,045,911,000
    2017-18 $1,043,680,000
    2016-17 $1,036,090,000

    https://www.communications.gov.au/file/36496/download?token=Grh26rLo

    Click to access ABC7171_AR_2017_Vol2_tagged_v5.pdf

  529. Tony permalink
    May 6, 2020 10:01 am

    2019-20 $1,062,265

    Click to access ABC-Corporate-Plan-201920.pdf

  530. Tom R permalink
    May 6, 2020 10:02 am

    Public sector organisations have a long way to go before they are efficient

    Tim Tam Hater!

    ASX 200 companies squeeze funds and efficiency year after year

    lol. I think you mean they hide away profits into offshore accounts 😉

    Thanks for proving that these are cuts way beyond simple ‘indexation’ CUTS tosy 😉

    Because, being a smart guy, you would understand that even cutting indexation is still a cut, but this, this is slashing a vital service.

    Another one

  531. May 6, 2020 10:05 am

    “The ABC is structured as a bureaucracy, not as a media organisation.”

    As it should be.

  532. Tony permalink
    May 6, 2020 10:19 am

    even cutting indexation is still a cut

    Lol. George would be impressed.

    war is peace
    freedom is slavery
    ignorance is strength
    increases are cuts

  533. Tony permalink
    May 6, 2020 10:25 am

    Thanks for proving that these are cuts way beyond simple ‘indexation’ CUTS tosy

    Not really.

    Year on year increase to funding 2020: 1.56%
    Inflation rate 2020: 1.43%

  534. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 6, 2020 10:26 am

    Is Tom R still advocating the attitude of the slothful Liberal council over the “get on with it” attitude of the ALP council?

    Hume figured out how to provide services. Boroondara just lapsed into apathy.

    Finally there’s something that Tom R prefers to barracking for the ALP- that’s supporting bureaucratic laziness!!

  535. Tom R permalink
    May 6, 2020 10:31 am

    Inflation rate 2020: 1.43%

    Yes, but what about operational costs? An organization like the ABC has specific outlays that don’t follow generic inflation figures.

    that’s supporting bureaucratic laziness!

    Still bad mouthing public servants I wee yomm, without providing any examples of this imagined slothfullness

  536. Tony permalink
    May 6, 2020 10:35 am

    Yes, but what about operational costs? An organization like the ABC has specific outlays that don’t follow generic inflation figures.

    WTF are you even talking about?

  537. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 6, 2020 11:37 am

    Well, you considered the slothful Liberal council in Boroondara right to not provide a service. While the ALP council in Broadmeadows was motivated enough to get off its backside and do something!

    With regard to the ABC, an indicator of efficiency in an organisation is the ratio of direct to indirect employees. Direct are those that provide the service, indirect are those that co-ordinate, manage/supervise, provide governance/policy.

    Lean, efficient organisations focus on the service provided by direct employees and minimise the interference of the indirect.

    If you compare the organisations of the ABC to other media companies, you’ll find the ABC is overburdened with the top heavy bureaucracy.

    Have a look at the annual reports if you think I’m wrong.

    But no doubt you’ll defend the non value adding overheads instead of the people that actually do the work.

    Get the overheads out of the way!

    (By the way, my mobile struggles with threads this long!)

  538. Tom R permalink
    May 6, 2020 12:00 pm

    Well, you considered the slothful Liberal council in Boroondara right to not provide a service.

    er, they did. Some dimwit couldn’t work out how to use it is all.

    If you compare the organisations of the ABC to other media companies, you’ll find the ABC is overburdened with the top heavy bureaucracy.

    So, without a link, we’ll take your word for it. But, as has been pointed out, this is a bureaucracy, who have to also make sure they adhere to ever changing Government policies.

    Unlike some organisations, that just need to keep dear leader happy.

    Oh, seems our national broadcaster isn’t much different.

    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/thebriefing/max-opray/2020/05/04/morrison-pressures-abc-over-app

    The abc also provides a service to all regions, unlike these alleged ‘lean’ companies who drop services as they see fit, leaving them abandoned until the almighty dollar drags them back

  539. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 6, 2020 12:39 pm

    The ABC is also inefficient because it follows the public sector system for classifying positions. That causes a culture of trying to over complicate the way jobs are described and putting as many layers between managers and the people that actually do the work.

    Inefficiency isn’t simply the attitude of the people that work in the ABC/public sector, the system causes a lot of it.

    And…the ALP council in Broadmeadows decided that libraries should figure out how to provide actual “books”. But you continue to defend the Liberal council of Hawthorn and Kew that couldn’t be bothered.

  540. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 6, 2020 12:46 pm

    Tim Tam Hater!

    ROFLMAO!!

    I have a friend at Transport NSW who lives for Tim Tam Tuesday!

  541. Tom R permalink
    May 6, 2020 1:09 pm

    I have a friend at Transport NSW who lives for Tim Tam Tuesday!

    SEE! 🙂

    Inefficiency isn’t simply the attitude of the people that work in the ABC/public sector, the system causes a lot of it.

    Ye, who is these idiots

  542. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 6, 2020 4:06 pm

    I have three family members with fairly senior public service jobs (never thought my kids would be public servants but there you go). The feed back I get on consultants is:

    Some consultants really do bring value to the table. If you require very specific high-level skills for a project they can be invaluable members of a team.

    Some consultants really believe they know it all without understanding the processes of the public service, particularly those designed to add rigour to decisions. In they end this type often fail to grasp the real issues.

    The large accounting firms seem to be the most useless. They are more about imprimatur than innovation.

    When there are restrictions on hiring and promotions it is almost part of the career path for talented public servants to quit and return as consultants to earn more money. If they are good they will be brought back as consultants to fill the void they left. If there was no freeze this would be less of an issue. It was certainly a thing in the Federal PS 5 – 10 years ago.

  543. TB Queensland permalink
    May 6, 2020 6:07 pm

    I don’t really care whether the ABC feels deprived of funds, whether it has been cut, or frozen.

    I don’t care that you don’t care … but then a lot of other people might disagree with you, and ToSY and Kneel!

    Click to access Polling%20-%20April%202020%20-%20ABC%20and%20public%20broadcasting%20%5BWeb%5D.pdf

  544. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 6, 2020 6:07 pm

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victoria-s-job-losses-due-to-nature-of-economy-not-government-failure-treasurer-20200506-p54qb1.html

    Don’t blame us , says Vic treasurer after Victorian economy is more f***ed than other states.

    …of course not! Just because the government has more stringent restrictions than other states, that’s nothing to do with the government!

  545. TB Queensland permalink
    May 6, 2020 6:29 pm

    Because, being a smart guy, you would understand that even cutting indexation is still a cut,

    You mean companies index wages and salaries to profits? WoW!

    even cutting indexation is still a cut

    Lol. George would be impressed.

    war is peace
    freedom is slavery
    ignorance is strength
    increases are cuts

    More indecipherable … er … argument …

    Lies are truth
    Pain is healing
    Tax is waste
    Duh is intelligent

    WTF are you even talking about?

    LOL!

    (By the way, my mobile struggles with threads this long!)

    Get an Android … iPhones are for fanbois …

    Unlike some organisations, that just need to keep dear leader happy.

    TR, I think you meant “… Rupee happy”

    I have a friend at Transport NSW who lives for Tim Tam Tuesday!

    In ToM’s world they have TiM ToMs every day, morning coffee, lunch and afternoon tea …

    BTW, I hope you have other friends?

    As for “consultants” I’ve been called in several times after – “the consultants gather information and then tell us what we already know” – school (usually charging a motza) … I did adhere to my own creed tho’ – “I suggest, recommend and advise – it is not my role to make the decision” … and I once won and refused a $17,000 contract … based on the arrogance/incompetence of the project “controller” who had no idea what staff expected and just did what they thought … could have been ToM … she did sound like him … 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

  546. TB Queensland permalink
    May 6, 2020 6:31 pm

    …of course not! Just because the government has more stringent restrictions than other states, that’s nothing to do with the government!

    So it’s not the Mexican culture … y’know siesta time …

  547. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 6, 2020 7:30 pm

    Revenue at channel 9 television is down about a third, and they’ll have to make some changes. Being a private company, they understand that reality.

    Unlike the ABC who just expect to remain getting plenty of cash regardless of the ability of the owners to pay.

  548. Tony permalink
    May 6, 2020 7:45 pm

  549. Tom R permalink
    May 7, 2020 9:37 am

    Do it for your Cuntry!

  550. Tony permalink
    May 7, 2020 11:14 am

    Singers and actors – is there anything they don’t know?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8292475/Stars-scientists-call-world-not-normal.html

  551. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 7, 2020 11:26 am

    I was listening to the ABC News, a report said additional suicides are likely to be between 750 and 1500.

    So we are likely to have about 10 times as many people dying from the government imposed restrictions and recession, than from the virus itself.

    And we’ll be imposing the next 2 generations with a huge debt legacy.

    Great work!!

  552. Tom R permalink
    May 7, 2020 11:31 am

    Singers and actors – is there anything they don’t know?

  553. Tom R permalink
    May 7, 2020 11:33 am

    I was listening to the ABC News

    SPLITTER!

    Although, after #robodebt etal, it’s nice to see you finally “seem” to give a flying fuck about someone not you

  554. TB Queensland permalink
    May 7, 2020 11:53 am

    I was listening to the ABC News

    ROFLMAO!

    H.y.p.o.c.r.i.s.y. read it here! 🙄 😆 😳

  555. Tom R permalink
    May 7, 2020 11:53 am

  556. TB Queensland permalink
    May 7, 2020 11:59 am

    Meanwhile back at the cathedral …

    Cardinal George Pell knew of Catholic Church child abuse for decades – and “considered measures of avoiding situations that might provoke gossip” – according to the child abuse royal commission.

    The comments come in redacted portions from the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse that were released in the Senate on Thursday ……………..

    The report shows the commission rejected Cardinal Pell’s evidence that he had been deceived and lied to by Church officials about Australia’s worst paedophile priest, Gerald Ridsdale, and Melbourne parish priest Peter Searson.

    The 100 pages of redacted findings were released after the High Court overturned Cardinal Pell’s child abuse convictions in April. Versions of the two reports, without the redacted pages, were initially published in December 2017.

  557. Tony permalink
    May 7, 2020 12:01 pm

    Michael Moore: “Green energy is a scam.“

    https://planetofthehumans.com/

  558. Tony permalink
    May 7, 2020 12:07 pm

    Meanwhile …

  559. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 7, 2020 12:39 pm

    Why the f*** would I boycott the ABC when I pay for it? I don’t object to it, I just want it to be efficient and balanced.

    You don’t make sense TB.

    But typically you don’t bother to address the issue, what do you think about an additional 1000 suicides being due to these restrictions and the government imposed recession?

  560. Tom R permalink
    May 7, 2020 1:11 pm

    Michael Moore: “ALL energy is a scam.“

    Fixed it for ya 😉

    Of course, anything where grifters can get their hands on money, is gonna be a scam.

    Another word for it is ‘Capitalism’ 😉

    Yomm wants his ABC.com delivered to his door every morning

  561. Tom R permalink
    May 7, 2020 1:14 pm

    Good to see the true heroes of the pandemic response remaining heroic

    But of course, Victoria bad, NSW good?

  562. Walrus permalink
    May 7, 2020 1:17 pm

    “But of course, Victoria bad, NSW good?”

    At least we can visit our mothers this Sunday

    And then play golf

  563. Walrus permalink
    May 7, 2020 1:19 pm

    And fish on land and from a boat and sail and paddle board and kite surf

  564. Walrus permalink
    May 7, 2020 1:32 pm

    And the last time I heard of so many random spot checks (36,812 as of 5 May) by police it was in a book about the Stasi.

    So in answer to this question…. “But of course, Victoria bad, NSW good?”

    It’s a resounding YES

  565. Tom R permalink
    May 7, 2020 1:42 pm

    “considered measures of avoiding situations that might provoke gossip”

    jESUS cHRIST, and yet people STILL want to defend a (at minimum) pedophile enabler?

  566. Tony permalink
    May 7, 2020 3:40 pm

  567. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 7, 2020 5:00 pm

  568. TB Queensland permalink
    May 7, 2020 5:11 pm

    Government to pay Aspen Medical $57m for Newmarch House and Ruby Princess coronavirus work

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/may/07/government-to-pay-aspen-medical-57m-for-newmarch-house-and-ruby-princess-coronavirus-work

    Yep, “free” enterprise is much cheaper than government employing its own staff …

  569. TB Queensland permalink
    May 7, 2020 5:13 pm

    You don’t make sense TB.

    I don’t make sense, ToM! Funnier and funnier …

  570. Walrus permalink
    May 7, 2020 5:20 pm

    Totally off track but you gotta ask how is it that certain nations always find a way to put their joint into full reverse ?

    Quite a sad photo really. And Yes TB this is Religion at it’s worst

  571. Tom R permalink
    May 7, 2020 5:23 pm

    I don’t make sense

    Did you write the user manual for Kindles perchance?

  572. Walrus permalink
    May 7, 2020 5:32 pm

    Today

  573. Walrus permalink
    May 7, 2020 5:52 pm

    And Yes the first photo is Honor Blackman in Iran 1965

  574. May 7, 2020 6:33 pm

    Pussy Galore?

  575. TB Queensland permalink
    May 7, 2020 8:49 pm

    Just finished reading – Christopher Hitchens – God is not Great …

    Wally certainly hit the nail on the head … Hitchens should have titled it Oraganised Religion The Curse of Society!

    good read …

    ++++++++

    Pussy Galore on a motorised push bike no less!

  576. Tom R permalink
    May 8, 2020 9:30 am

    He went to the University of UTube and graduated “MAGA YELL LOUDLY” lol

  577. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 8, 2020 10:14 am

    Hitchens is brilliant! I don’t agree with everything he wrote but he really wrote without fear or favour. He is exhibit one to support my theory that Trots are the most interesting leftists and are usually smarter than your average bear. His book on Orwell is brilliant as is his “Letters to a young contrarian” which I’ve given to a few promising young’ns as a guide to clear thinking. Also, there is good anthology of his columns: “Arguably: Essays by Christopher Hitchens”.

    On the death of Rev Jerry Falwell he said: “If you gave him an enema you could bury him in a matchbox

    Hitchens wrote one of the greatest take-downs which is unfortunately behind a paywall these days. It concerns historian Paul Johnson who had famously said that adulterers should be flogged. Subsequently Johnson’s mistress of 11 years said that Johnson loved to spanked. Here are some choice passages:

    “There is almost no English surname, however ancient and dignified, that cannot be instantly improved by the prefix “Spanker.” So deeply is the habit and culture of corporal punishment imbricated with the national psyche that whole shelves of specialist literature, to say nothing of entire racks of newspapers and magazines, are regularly devoted to the subject. A decade or so ago, I outed the barking Tory pamphleteer Paul Johnson as an enthusiast or votary of this cult. For evidence, I had no more to go upon than certain suggestive and repetitive elements in his “work.”

    So it was decidedly invigorating to learn, in the dog days of mid-May, that he had been exposed by his mistress of 11 years, the writer Gloria Stewart, as a spankee:
    “Paul loved to be spanked and it was a big part of our relationship. I had to tell him he was a very naughty boy.” ……

    With sermonizers like [Johnson] it’s just a matter of setting one’s watch. Give it just a little time and — presto! We open the tabloids to see their withered haunches bared to the slipper, and the haggard remnants of their Johnsons exposed to the cruel light of day. …

    But here’s the bizarre thing. Johnson is not just a cult figure wherever two or three spankers are gathered together. He is an adored object of the American Right. …… Dan Quayle kept a copy of Johnson’s awful “Modern Times” by him, and employed it as a prop against those who accused him of being no great reader. (When pressed for an exegesis of its content, he announced contentedly that it was “a very good historical book about history.”) ….

    It’s both satisfying and unsatisfying that Spanker Johnson is now, conclusively and forever, a figure of ridicule and contempt. He ought also to be remembered for his bigotry and spite and bullying. (And maybe for an accidental tincture of literary prescience: One light smack and he “comes up foaming at the mouth.”) But not all the perfumes of Araby can sweeten that spanking hand; nay, not all the genius of the Pfizer Corporation can make this Johnson rise again. “

    [Sorry about the length of this comment]

  578. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 8, 2020 10:35 am

    Also, I like llamas:

  579. Tom R permalink
    May 8, 2020 10:43 am

    Sorry about the length of this comment

    Forgiven, for the quality of the comment

    That was hilarious, and reminded me of this golden oldie

    https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-story-behind-the-song-mary-long-by-deep-purple

  580. TB Queensland permalink
    May 8, 2020 11:43 am

    [Sorry about the length of this comment]

    Not at all … I read it!

    And it reminded me that I was thankful that ereaders include a dictionary! (one of the funny things is that if I read paper book these days I sometimes put my finger on a word I’m unsure of or have never heard before! eReaders make it so much easier! (ie imbricated – I can guess at its meaning – but I want to “know”.

  581. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 8, 2020 11:52 am

    Thanks for the Deep Purple. Very apt. I was 14 when I bought Deep Purple in Rock. Happy memories.

  582. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 8, 2020 11:59 am

    Glad you enjoyed it TB. Hitchens is a brilliant writer and always challenging with the depth of his vocabulary. He also wrote a very good autobiography not long before he died. “Hitch-22 : A Memoir Confessions and Contradictions”

  583. Tony permalink
    May 8, 2020 1:18 pm

  584. TB Queensland permalink
    May 8, 2020 3:08 pm

    He also wrote a very good autobiography not long before he died.

    Shows my iggorance … I had no idea he had died! Never a “follower” (of anything actually) but glad, “I now am found!”

    I’ll check his bibliography and of course his autobiography … good thing about ebooks … easy to find, easy to download and easy to read … as ToM will tell you …

  585. Walrus permalink
    May 8, 2020 4:01 pm

    “”RIP the last remnants of Harry’s balls……”

    Yep fully fledged eunuch now

  586. Back`In`Black`Teabag permalink
    May 19, 2020 10:29 am

    The planet of the primates have been hurled off the superbug clifftop. Around nov2020 the planet of the primates will be hurled off the 1929ish clifftop too. @yaaay.corporate.whim.granting

  587. Back`In`Black`Teabag permalink
    May 26, 2020 10:13 am

    As l promised to viewers, theRonald show would only get more spectacular this year and theBoris was an excellent addition to the cast. Future episodes will feature theJair as a semi regular to the cast and give the show a brazilish flavor.

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