Fighting COVID-19 with Melania Trump

1. She looks about as sinister as Julia Gillard
2. But Sweden is a Nordic country, and so civilised because they have high taxes! We have so much to learn from them!

TB, the problem is that it isn’t this generation that is funding all the government support.

It’s so easy for this generation to spend, because it’s the next one that will pay for it.

That’s way governments have to figure out how to start to allow people to rebuild their lives without all this government support.

…and sniping at the wife of someone because she married a f***wit is unsatisfactory. No one has a go at your wife because she did.

Love to see the stats in a few weeks of a spike in cases among protesters

Therefore, unlike a household, the federal government can roll its debt over indefinitely

I don’t agree with that

It’s just amazing that Australians are so distrusting of their Government that they refuse to download an app that will allow golf clubs to continue fleecing people

So selfish, and with no reason! 😯

Careful?

I think it’s unsatisfactory to call a woman “sinister” because you object to her husband, so perhaps TB, you should be careful with your own commentary.

Yes TB, Trump’s wife is unelected and hardly chose to occupy her role.

But to you that’s enough to call her “sinister”

That’s poor form and it’s no worse for someone to suggest that your wife has very questionable judgement

Libraries of calibre

Yeah! But it’s ok for you to throw around the insults however you like, including on the basis of choice of husband!!

**glass jaw**

There must be differences between states as to how recovered cases are reported.

Because it couldn’t be because of Library access, fer sure.

https://www.boroondara.vic.gov.au/libraries/collections/ebooks-and-audio-books

Hundreds of economists have cautioned the Morrison Government against relaxing social distancing measures too early

Economists? Shouldn’t that read health officials? What would an economist know about viruses?

Well, not from all these massive companies that don’t pay any tax quite obviously

Firstly most people work for small business in this country. And the big companies who may or may not pay company tax, their workers pay income tax.

If govt did not get money from the private sector it would collapse tomorrow

lol splats

there is no reason for a government to step in

Unless we get a stake in it 😉

My favourite restaurant is struggling

With cheapskates like you as their customers, I’m not surprised.

The government should not have a vested interest in one specific airline succeeding, so (part) ownership is entirely unsatisfactory.

There have been many airlines that come and go in Australia, and there will be another that replaces Virgin.

These days it is more straightforward for a subsidiary of a foreign airline to set up here. One or even 2 would come in pretty quickly. The market is lucrative and foreign airlines want a domestic airline to feed their international routes.

The entry of Virgin was the final nail in the coffin of Ansett, there is nothing special about Virgin.

The entry of Virgin was the final nail in the coffin of Ansett, there is nothing special about Virgin.

For someone who was so worried about jobs yesterday, you don’t seem to give a flying fuck today

The owners of Virgin chose to run a high debt business model. It wasn’t sustainable during a long period of economic growth. It certainly isn’t during a severe downturn.

If the owners can’t see their way clear to bail out Virgin, there’s no point in the government doing it for them.

I suppose the employees will be able to access the (exceptionally/unnecessarily generous) jobkeeper program like other people.

Can’t unsee…

And your first thought is, TO MAKE US ALL NOT UNSEE IT! 🙂

Are you seriously comparing parliamentary democracy in Australia with the system of government in China??

No, I’m saying our government is fascinated with spying on us. 😆

Yay, we’re not ‘quite’ as bad as China, only slightly worst than Russia 😦

I was 😉

Yes.

https://blogs.bu.edu/core/2014/06/09/dantes-inferno-in-lego/

sending a “covert” message?

As long as they don’t look into our wheat 😉

I wonder whether we will receive a rate reimbursement while all these librarians are sitting around at home trying to figure out how to avoid providing a library service.

Yeah! You know, the type of library that supplies “books”

Are you familiar with that type of library, one that requires “librarians” , not an online transaction

Ah yomm, highlighting his ignorance again.

It’s the little faeries that cum out at at night and maintain the books database it is, isn’t it. New books appear as if by magic, old ones just disappear when forgotten abouts

Not surprised yor having difficulties with that flat screen book reading there, I’ll send me folks around to give ya a hand 😉

Hilarious! Yeah! Just like when you buy an ebook online, there’s a shop assistant with a cash register at the other end!
They scan the ebook, push some buttons and then write a personal email to you to let you know they have completed the transaction!
That kind of stuff is very labour intensive!

Finally some good news LOL

https://doublebaytoday.com/virgin-australia-announces-plan-to-move-into-food-delivery-business/

Yes Splatter a favourite of mine

By the way, why do Tom R and TB excuse government from providing the services that people have paid for?

They wouldn’t make excuses for a commercial organisation

Well…it’s just outrageous that you had to wait!

Maybe the lass who runs the scanner over the ebook was on an RDO, and the guy who writes the email was busy.

‘You do know that not all librarians are female?

lol, that’s how you do typos 🙂

Ever been to a Dawn Service?

Anzac Day is Saturday (the shops are shut for half a day). Traditionally, the public holiday would be on Monday in this case (these are public Holidays we traded for years ago). They stole another day from us, Brick by Brick.

At least somebodies thinking of the Librarians (of all sexes 😉 )

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/eat/life-in-lockdown-arnotts-shares-secret-monte-carlo-biscuit-recipe/news-story/d517e74711e50e91eb36643e2f232428

Fascinating and indicative

ffs yomm, just do a search for Sweden on this page alone [facepalm]

Sounds like the only screening of casino royale where the fans were actually entertained reb

That’s really insightful TB, as always.

Something fishy here.

Not really. You have to remember, while ‘merica had lock downs, their prez was still telling his followers it was all a Democrat conspiracy, while Japanese are very good at following orders and doing what their leaders ask.

I also think cultural habits come into play, the Japanese being quite fastidious and generally averse to close contact, whereas Americans, and especially New Yorkers, are extremely Gregarious and prone to physical greeting etc.

Not saying one is right or wrong, but in this case, has worked against them.

Glad to see Danial Andrews isn’t falling for the governments bullshit school rubbish.

I’ve signed up for the covid 19 app, so if the government wants to track me, my advice is get ready for some excruciating boredom

my advice is get ready for some excruciating boredom

They just track your movement,( and who you associate with, and what their political leaning is, and what you look at on facebook ………), they don’t read your comments.

I think we should do just whatever the government says, whether it makes sense or not.

Everyone knows that playing golf, fishing and going to the public library kills people.

What are you even talking about?

The link I put up about the New York school begging to close, but not being listened to. Over here, we have the government blaming the Unions for wanting to stay on the safe side, which is the reason we are doing so well now

Business owners are battling staff demanding payments under the government’s $130 billion JobKeeper scheme but refusing to work.

Several employers told The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald their staff said they don’t want to work at all, or want to work minimal hours, but still receive JobKeeper payments of $1500 a fortnight.

The JobKeeper payment is ill considered. This was bound to happen, particularly in industries where employers observe award rates. Employees on the award are better off just staying at home and collecting the money, we saw that with a union demanding that JB HiFi close, it also fairly common in small retailers.

The sooner unnecessary restrictions are lifted, the better for everyone

https://www.theage.com.au/business/small-business/it-s-not-money-for-jam-staff-refusing-to-come-to-work-but-demanding-jobkeeper-payments-20200423-p54mka.html

But no comment on the interview with the union official that demanded that JB HiFi close, so that everyone could sit around at home and collect the over generous welfare

You obviously don’t keep up with union demands, so try reading this.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/unions-divided-on-coronavirus-retail-closures-20200413-p54jet.html

Really? You think the motivation is about safety rather than money?
Of course!
I’ll have to see whether I can find the tv interview the union Sid, that was even more pointed.
The Jobkeeper program is too generous and can act as a reason to avoid attending work.

You think the motivation is about safety rather than money?

Silly me, I’m just going on what all those workers said.

The minimum wage in Australia is $740/wk. The jobkeeper pays $750.
So people can save all the travel expenses, stay at home and watch daytime tv, and still be better off.
It isn’t a tough decision to figure out that jobkeeper is more financially attractive, and without the bother of having to do any thing.
Jobkeeper is a mistake, and needs to be wound back.

Jobkeeper is a mistake, and needs to be wound back.

Yes, it’s shit, but for many other reasons than the rate. But, don’t blame workers for wanting to be safe, and call them some sort of greedy buggers, when in reality, they just don’t want to get sick or endanger their families.

Don’t take the governments failures out on the workers ffs

we don’t know what we don’t know.

That’s interesting from Dan, but he needs more practice! Donald Rumsfeld did it better.

“Death is death”

when in reality, they just don’t want to get sick or endanger their families want to watch daytime tv, while earning more than they do by going to work

And you mention “the lazy workers” 13 times a fucking day!

Don’t forget the public servants and their fucking Monte Carlo’s

Don’t forget the public servants and their fucking Monte Carlo’s

It’s Tim Tams, and it is surprising that there hasn’t been some public servant union official on tv complaining that public servants have to buy their own Tim Tams now that they’re “working from home”

https://giphy.com/gifs/trump-press-conference-joV1k1sNOT5xC

Dan Andrews is motivated only by saving lives! All those other states don’t give a crap about whether people live or die!

That’s why they allow golf and fishing!

And somehow that’s wrong?

Of course not TB! It’s all those other state governments that show such a cavalier attitude towards human life! It is so irresponsible for the government of Queensland to allow people to play golf!

Here in Victoria, Dan is asking us to accept the punishment, and we’ll all survive, while the people of Queensland will die from golf and a little bit of socialising

Free books! Yeah!! Why would anyone expect a council library to figure out how to provide some form of service, like some other council libraries?

It’s unreasonable to expect a local government to provide a service that has been paid for. I mean, why should any government try to make the social distancing and isolation more tolerable?

It’s best if we (in Victoria) accept our punishment without complaint. It’s what we deserve!

But when the citizens of QLD & NSW are dropping like flies from golf, reading and limited socialising, we’ll be all laughing at result of their irresponsibility!

Really TB, when all this is over, people won’t forget the responsible Premiers (like Mr Andrews) that that value human life, and therefore ban golf, and visiting another house.

Those Premiers that are unwilling to dish out a little justified punishment and allow things like golf will have to face the opprobrium of the electorate.

Those Premiers that show this complete indifference to human life are denying the science!

I think we have discussed e-books a few times, but I’m quite happy to explain this again. Why do you wish to excuse a council from providing a service that has been paid for, and which other councils provide?

By the way, why are left types so willing to support loading up future generations with debt, but apparently so concerned about not leaving a legacy of climate change?

Brilliant analysis as always.

This wasn’t a useless gesture. Celebrities did it!

Well, all I can say is, celebrities are shit at Photoshop 😉

Seems the fire relief payments weren’t the only promise that didn’t make it past the headline stage.

I’d say more than some splats, going on the recent royal commission they wanted to burn Industry super with

It’s almost as if it’s satire.

Almost, if the rest of the site wasn’t so damn stupid

“Trump Says To Drink Lots Of Water, Media Reports He Told Everyone To Drown Themselves”

The reality was more ‘satirical’ than that ffs.

btw, have you tried injecting it yet?

Everyone knows it’s only left oriented satire that’s funny

I’m not sure that ones even trying to be funny?

https://www.dummies.com/consumer-electronics/tablets/kindle/

Apparently it’s 250 years ago today that some obscure English Lieutenant and crew sailed into Botany Bay

Who would have known ?

I’m busy on Facebook with nutters defending Dark Emu. They truly are nutters and are even editing their past posts.

you don’t seem to mention that.

I didn’t have to, did I 😉

I see a report finds that almost half of parents are able to “cover the basic needs — food and shelter and pay rent and all of those kind of thing”, and that’s a reason for no remote learning?

Seems to me that’s nothing to do with education, and everything to do with remuneration.

I love how, the day after remote learning was supposed to come in, ‘numerous government reports’ find that it’s not working lol

Kind of how they studies 8 kids in NSW and decided that ‘all medical advice says that schools are safe.

These are from the same morons who gave us a ‘trickle down’ ‘stimulus’ 😯

‘A phantom plague’: Evangelicals who defied social distancing guidelines are dying of coronavirus in frightening numbers

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/a-phantom-plague-evangelicals-who-defied-social-distancing-guidelines-are-dying-of-coronavirus-in-frightening-numbers/#.XqnYOVfHPhc.twitter

lol tosy, I had to google what this particular reference was about. This de blasio sounds like a loony. He is american, so that explains a lot

I often wonder if the people who made this original movie ever imagined it would take on so many lives.

And they will take credit, all of it.

well, they shouldn’t. Who closed the schools just as the shit hit?

Against the ‘advice’ from the federal grubmint?

Who just wanted to go to the footy

And yes, we were also lucky that we had a very mild start to Autumn

At least he’s not the only one …

Do you disagree with her assertion?

The aboriginal population was devastated with the introduction of foreign viruses. That’s history even Dark Emu haters can’t ignore

Or will they?

Disease was a problem but not from Cook’s voyage. It emerged from the First and subsequent fleets.

She”s an idiot who is more wrapped up in woke commentary than in fixing Victoria

Yes, I’d be inclined to blame Dirk Hartog who arrived over 150 years before Cook. Or maybe better still, blame the Javanese who traded and visited for hundreds of years.

She should stick to the medical stuff because she knows SFA about history.

For all their many mistakes the English left their colonies in far better shape than any of the other colonial powers

Go ask the Africans

Cook was in Botany Bay for 8 days, and there is no evidence that he left behind any viruses. So Ms van Diemen is wrong. I’ll make sure I let her know.

All the European powers were settling and colonising, so regardless of Cook, one of them would have set up camp here.

Yes, I’ve pointed out the errors on the feedback form for the Vic CMO.

I’m sure they will give it the consideration it deserves!

The basic point is that public servants should be careful not to provide (incorrect) contentious comments that are clearly outside their expertise and responsibility.

I think Ms van Diemen failed the IQ test. And probably the EQ one too.

That must be why all those highly unionised industries have had decades of success here!

Boss- “Business isn’t good at the moment. If only there was something we could do to improve it”

Bright employee – “I read a university study that concluded that a unionised workforce is more productive! Why don’t we invite the CFMEU in to tell us how we should run the business?”

Boss- “Great idea! Our problems are over!”

“Because you’re a selfish stingy old cunt, sir”.

yomms a Boss?

Boss- “You’re right! The reason we’re struggling is that our costs are to low! If we can increase our costs and have everyone work fewer hours, and go to plenty of stop work meetings, we’re sure going to be more successful! “

Me too
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Why is Dan Andrews imposing more punishment on Victoria? Other states ease the lockdown, but Dan keeps our punishment at full strength.

He’s using this to make his name.

Yes. There’s an attitude of “take your medicine”

Are the states that are moving to relax the restrictions, wrong?

Yes, but I’m committed to the Guttertrash

Here on the Democratic People’s Republic of Victoria the uprising has started!
There are actually people walking around! Lots of surfers, and families using picnic tables!
Those using the picnic tables look as if this might be the second time they’ve escaped an oppressive regime!
I don’t think it’s the weather that has brought them out!

herr leader indees

When asked how soon Australians could go back to the pub, Mr Morrison replied that the first step would be to download the app.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronavirus/2020/05/02/coronavirus-covidsafe-pubs/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Saturday%20News%20-%2020200502

They’ve actually made this a requirement to relax restrictions ffs

Speaking of ‘integrity’

What?? You can’t go to a pub TB??!!
That’s just outrageous! No wonder you’re so bothered!
And no doubt Tom R will be along shortly to child you about being unwilling to make small sacrifices

And no doubt Tom R will be along shortly to child you about being unwilling to make small sacrifices

I mean, he even said ‘blackmail’ in his comment, and you still decide to go off on a completely different tack

It’s not in their nature to treat us like mature adults.

See above 😉

Yes! I think it’s reasonable to expect a government to figure out how to provide a service that it has been paid to provide, and I wish to access, even remotely.

Meanwhile, TB gets cranky about the conditions associated with opening pubs, but he doesn’t want to use them!

Cranky or acerbic?

Yes! I think it’s reasonable to expect a government to figure out how to provide a service that it has been paid to provide

You mean, like ebooks? Because I’m pretty sure that councils haven’t been paid for Librarians to sit in little rooms wiping down potentially hazardous materials with the personal safety risks that that entails cos yomm can’t work out a Kindle ffs

at the expense of a generation of children.

fuck hildiebrand is a pretentious fuckwit. After arguing for years on the side of politics that has seen student outcomes evaporate as they pour $billions in private coffers while starving the public system, he now wants to think of the little children. Although, like one of the drs said months ago, if all we have a few months down the track is rwdb’s complaining that we did this for nothing because nothing happened, then what we did was right.

I wonder if Dan Tehan is apologizing to the brand of hilde that sprouts this shit?

Very Low stunt by Andrews. Clearly knew about the school case yesterday and waited to see what the education minister would say on Insiders and then announce it.

Lol, even if it WAS a ‘stunt’, the fact is, it happened, and dumbasses like tehan and hildethebrand had just shot off at the mouth and shot their own stupid feet off, again. There’s a reason that they’re rwfw’s, and that’s because they’re fuckwits who just happen to be right wing.

… I stand to lose more now … some of us know what happens …

Not as much as the next generation, who will have fewer options in responding to the next GFC or pandemic or emergency or even climate change.

Boomers have lasted into the habit of public debt and are willing to pass it on to the next generation.

Until the next emergency came under their watch, after they had absolutely trashed the economy,

How? Budget deficits under the Coalition are similar to SWans from 2008-2013. Unemployment is lower than anytime under Hawke/keating.

I admit things have not improved much but they have not gotten worse.

Now compare to 2007 when the budget was a $20B surplus, govt debt was ZERO and unemployment was at 4% and we had a car industry

zzzzzzzzzzzzz they said the same thing when Labor did it

Ok boomer. How much of our debt do you think the next generation should carry?

I find it interesting that “the predictable” express endless.concern about a climate change legacy, but brush off the huge debt legacy they are willing to leave.

Just transfer the problem to the future and let them deal with it.

if only they had a GFC or something to point to as the cause of these deficits?

Labor increased govt spending by 12% in 2008, way above the normal increase and it was never wound back. Coalition tried minor spending cuts in their first May 2014 budget but were blocked by Labor

And U R insane. Your comment about Labor paying off debt is wrong. There has never been a Labor govt in the lifetime of Australians that has ever reduced govt debt. And there never will be.

So I’m not sure what point you are trying to make.

“they”. said. the. same. thing. when. Labor. did. the. stimulus. in. the. GFC.

I hope that’s slow enough for you

And I thought the Chinese did it:

Ozzie Osbourne is the only one who can save us now!

“””then managed to find twice as much AFTER doubling the debt”””

Table 4 says net debt was minus 3% of GDP in 2007, 13% in 2013 and 19% now. But who knows what it will be after the current explosion in spending

True. I’d forgotten about that:

Pretty sure he has too 😉

I’d paid my own way without relying on anyone

From memory, you went from being a Union guy to a company guy. Who exactly paid those 30 pieces of silver? You?

Just what does that mean, “we should take responsibility

Everyone (except those currently fleecing the economy of unfunded dollars in a Franking credits bonanza)

I’m not surprised that TB need clarification about “taking responsibility”

“Predictable” types tend not to understand what that means.

So for clarification, I think there will have to be a 20 year plan to pay down the current largesse.
*Government departments to move to regions where commercial real estate is cheaper.
*Maintain working from home and change public service employment conditions to reflect the reduced travel and housing costs that result.
*Everyone in receipt of welfare to have a mutual obligation and perform some work, except old aged pensioners.
Increase the old aged pension to 67
*Increase the GST to 15%, and apply it to everything
*A 2% levy in all incomes and companies

Yes. Social distancing is resulting in a decline in patronage at “the dance studio”

Lulu struggles to keep clients happy while wearing a face mask, and Fifi doesn’t like all the hand sanitising. The supplier is all out of oil based sanitiser

Absolutely disgusting … and certainly ideologically uber kapitalist decision making …

I think it is disgusting the ABC gets $1.1B of taxpayers money/year. Furthermore i never watch it.

But i suspect the statement is a little lose with the truth. I suspect there were no cuts just no increase in funding to cover inflation.

The ABC will do a while lot better than the other media organisations this year.

The ABC will have a huge advantage in terms of relative revenue, others will tank.

So I’m not going to get bothered about any of the media whinging about how tough it is.

So I’m not going to get bothered about any of the media whinging about how tough it is.

I think the point is, people are looking to the abc, as they are the only stable outlet at the moment who has coverage across the entire country, but they are struggling to get the Governments information out to all those pockets. And this is the grubmint that cut them so hard at a time when they are needed the most

I get all my information from the internet.

😦

https://www.abc.net.au/news/

Actually nil, I’m pretty sure you’re getting your info from a floppy disc

1. It’s true SB, maintenance of the current restrictions, in Victoria particularly, is like imposing a 10km/hr speed limit to avoid road accidents.

2. The leaking of those photographs by the police is a far better indicator of their culture and attitudes than the bulls**t “heros” that politicians constantly blab on about.

It’s very embarassing to be corrected by you TB

Mr Irrelevant.

Pretty sure “Melinda” is a Mrs?

If you want to talk about sources, how about the “independent” think tank that produced that report about funding “cuts” to the ABC.

Shows you what sort of people govt funded leftists are. Right now people are losing their jobs and/or having cuts to their salary and the ABC moans about funding cuts which never happened.

If funding cuts to the ABC had ever happened do you think we wouldn’t have heard lefties screaming from the rooftops.

it’s a pause on idexation

Yes, in the real world, that’s called a ‘cut’!

Maybe they’ll remember this lesson in federalism next time state schools or hospitals aren’t given the money in the federal budget they think they deserve.

You mean like what’s happened for the past 7 years?

More hypocrisy from our betters:

So, someone fucked up, and then …………….. took it upon himself and resigned for the lack of trust. Imagine if politicians did the same?

Can you catch COVID19 from Batshit Crazy?

So, the app DOES leak private information?

Hating on Cook (inserting some context into white armband history) makes you spy WITH the Government?

My head hurts trying to wrap itself around this ‘logic’

I don’t really care whether the ABC feels deprived of funds, whether it has been cut, or frozen.

Public sector organisations have a long way to go before they are efficient.

ASX 200 companies squeeze funds and efficiency year after year, but somehow the public sector is expected to be treated differently.

The ABC is structured as a bureaucracy, not as a media organisation.

Inflation rate 2020: 1.43%

Yes, but what about operational costs? An organization like the ABC has specific outlays that don’t follow generic inflation figures.

that’s supporting bureaucratic laziness!

Still bad mouthing public servants I wee yomm, without providing any examples of this imagined slothfullness

Well, you considered the slothful Liberal council in Boroondara right to not provide a service. While the ALP council in Broadmeadows was motivated enough to get off its backside and do something!

With regard to the ABC, an indicator of efficiency in an organisation is the ratio of direct to indirect employees. Direct are those that provide the service, indirect are those that co-ordinate, manage/supervise, provide governance/policy.

Lean, efficient organisations focus on the service provided by direct employees and minimise the interference of the indirect.

If you compare the organisations of the ABC to other media companies, you’ll find the ABC is overburdened with the top heavy bureaucracy.

Have a look at the annual reports if you think I’m wrong.

But no doubt you’ll defend the non value adding overheads instead of the people that actually do the work.

Get the overheads out of the way!

(By the way, my mobile struggles with threads this long!)

The ABC is also inefficient because it follows the public sector system for classifying positions. That causes a culture of trying to over complicate the way jobs are described and putting as many layers between managers and the people that actually do the work.

Inefficiency isn’t simply the attitude of the people that work in the ABC/public sector, the system causes a lot of it.

And…the ALP council in Broadmeadows decided that libraries should figure out how to provide actual “books”. But you continue to defend the Liberal council of Hawthorn and Kew that couldn’t be bothered.

I have a friend at Transport NSW who lives for Tim Tam Tuesday!

SEE! 🙂

Inefficiency isn’t simply the attitude of the people that work in the ABC/public sector, the system causes a lot of it.

Ye, who is these idiots

Revenue at channel 9 television is down about a third, and they’ll have to make some changes. Being a private company, they understand that reality.

Unlike the ABC who just expect to remain getting plenty of cash regardless of the ability of the owners to pay.

Do it for your Cuntry!

I was listening to the ABC News, a report said additional suicides are likely to be between 750 and 1500.

So we are likely to have about 10 times as many people dying from the government imposed restrictions and recession, than from the virus itself.

And we’ll be imposing the next 2 generations with a huge debt legacy.

Great work!!

I was listening to the ABC News

SPLITTER!

Although, after #robodebt etal, it’s nice to see you finally “seem” to give a flying fuck about someone not you