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Trump gets the Chinah Virus!

October 2, 2020

THE FINAL SEASON OF AMERICA has taken a remarkable plot twist with the President of the United States (played by colourful reality TV personality Donald Trump) and the late King of Pop Michael Jackson as his hilarious wife #FLOTUS succumbing to the much maligned “Chinah Virus.”

For those following along at home, Australia’s Chinah Virus expert Dr Norman Swan says that at the Donald Trump’s age of 74, the mortality rate is 5-12%.

But, he says, that obesity (the president is just over the line as obese in his last medical check) increases the risk by an extra 40%, increasing the risk of death to between about 7-18%.

Some of us were hoping for something a little higher.

Trump’s personal physician says that the president and first lady will “remain at home within the White House during their convalescence”.

Trump’s Physician Harold Bornstein

How long this convalescence lasts will depend on how ill the pair get. Even if Trump tests negative within the next 14 days, he will almost certainly be unable to attend rallies in three key states – Wisconsin, Florida and Arizona – as well as the next presidential debate, which is scheduled for 15 October.

Which is all really sad.

593 Comments leave one →
  1. October 2, 2020 5:17 pm

    Finding out the husband you married for money is broke and gives you Covid-19 all in the same week.

    My thoughts are with Melania at this difficult time.

  2. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 2, 2020 5:23 pm

  3. October 2, 2020 5:24 pm

    “the late King of Pop Michael Jackson as his hilarious wife #FLOTUS”

    *guffaw

  4. October 2, 2020 5:26 pm

    My hopes and prayers go out to the great man.

    I hope he gets the same kind of healthcare as the hundreds of thousands of lesser citizenry who’ve succumbed to the virus which he’s conquered and handled so well.

    I need to google how to make a prayer. First timer here.

  5. October 2, 2020 5:29 pm

    “I need to google how to make a prayer. First timer here.”

    Apparently it helps if you scrunch your face up..

  6. October 2, 2020 5:36 pm

    I am highly likely to fail at the “suspend your disbelief and disable your critical thinking” part.

    The face scrunching most probably will come naturally.

  7. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 2, 2020 6:10 pm

    It’ll be a good test for Hydroxy treatment.

  8. October 2, 2020 6:30 pm

    Among other things.

    I await FoxDr Atlas’ prognostications with baited breathe.

    Trump is most likely deliberately going for herd ‘mentality’, leading by example, like a war President. It virtually doesn’t affect anyone, after all.

  9. October 2, 2020 6:32 pm

    Once again, the juxtaposition of Don’s healthcare VS Average Joe would make a very interesting case study.

    Not that we’ll ever know. Releasing ‘the whole truth’ isn’t a strongpoint of this Administration, in extremis.

    Who knows, could be a pivotal Damascene conversion, if he gets to fear for his mortality at all.

  10. October 2, 2020 6:36 pm

    By Average Joe, I don’t mean the pedo communist police hating senile freedom killing immigrant loving SLeepy Joe Biden, obviously.

    That guy most likely had someone at a pizza shop slip this new disease (which can’t be COVID-19, because everyone knows that’s code for 5G) to our bulwark of western civilisation!

  11. October 2, 2020 6:44 pm

    “Finding out the husband you married for money is broke and gives you Covid-19 all in the same week.”

    Not to mention that if he gets a second term, he’s possibly angling to change laws (with the blessing of evangelicals) so that he can finally take Ivanka as his concubine, so she can take over after his third term (during which he has a Stalinesque stroke).
    Don Jr will be installed in a Yezhov-lite fashion.

    Poor Melania.

  12. TB Queensland permalink
    October 2, 2020 7:13 pm

    KARMA!

  13. TB Queensland permalink
    October 2, 2020 7:13 pm

    THE END IS NIGH!

  14. TB Queensland permalink
    October 2, 2020 7:14 pm

    PRAISE THE LORD … AND PASS THE BLEACH! LOTS OF BLEACH!

  15. TB Queensland permalink
    October 2, 2020 7:18 pm

    She also said the US president will fall ill with a mysterious illness which will leave him deaf and with a brain tumour.

    That may be back to front … ie he has a brain tumour …

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/blind-mystic-baba-vanga-predicted-21690705

  16. October 2, 2020 7:55 pm

    The indignant contortions from the likes of McEnany et al, should prove fruitful.

    I wonder if he’s cowering in his bunker again? Safe space. They’re taking his freedomz away!

  17. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 3, 2020 1:30 pm

    Clusterfuck, more like – he’s probably been banging Hope and Kellyane

  18. TB Queensland permalink
    October 3, 2020 3:55 pm

  19. TB Queensland permalink
    October 3, 2020 3:56 pm

    Just testing … emojis … XD

  20. TB Queensland permalink
    October 3, 2020 3:57 pm

    😥

  21. TB Queensland permalink
    October 3, 2020 3:59 pm

    I thought Tramp was teetotal? How come they gave him a cocktail?

    If he carks it watch the scramble for the Iron Throne …

  22. October 3, 2020 10:41 pm

    If he’s rendered incapable, and the Pence Religious Android follows suit, watch Qtard heads explode when Satan Pelosi gets to run shit for a few.

  23. October 3, 2020 10:44 pm

    I am only guessing here, but I’d say the stable genius has done this deliberately, to bowl over Melanoma & Cuckner, so he can finally mount Ivanka, in a dynastic breeding programe.

    Of course, it may just be because he’s a shitcunt who’s reaping what he’s planted.

  24. October 3, 2020 11:05 pm

    Curious that now knickers are supposed to be irrigated when confronted with thoughts of anti-fascism (coz being against fascism is sooo reprehensible)…I guess the terrorists have been conquered indefinitely by the orange person in hospital.

  25. October 4, 2020 8:49 am

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  26. Tony permalink
    October 4, 2020 9:45 am

    That’s a relief.

  27. October 4, 2020 12:05 pm

    Journalist (at press conference): “Given your incompetence, when will you be resigning?”

    Twitter person: “Why are you trolling, lift your game.”

    Journalist:”Twitter is a nasty, vicious place where people don’t understand that it’s my job to ask questions.”

  28. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 4, 2020 12:25 pm

    Journalist – “can you detail the government’s strategy?”
    Dan- “you can catch the virus playing golf!”
    Journalist – “are you able to directly answer a question?”
    Dan – “Stay the course, and we have a roadmap. And it is the irresponsible public that has caused all this. People who don’t agree will be handcuffed. particularly 7 stone pregnant women in pink pyjamas”

  29. Tony permalink
    October 4, 2020 2:43 pm

    Dan’s podium personae:

    Dan the Mirror Man: “I’ll look into that for you”.

    Dan the Running Man: “I’ll chase that up for you”.

    Dan the Boomerang Man: “I’ll come back to you on that”.

  30. TB Queensland permalink
    October 4, 2020 7:42 pm

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2020/10/04/kapooka-base-corruption-probe/

    Don’cha love privatisation?

  31. TB Queensland permalink
    October 4, 2020 7:44 pm

    Journalist:”Twitter is a nasty, vicious place where people don’t understand that it’s my job to ask questions.”

    Yeah, but its the questions you ask …

    I see ToM, hasn’t left “Disneyland” yet …

  32. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 4, 2020 8:06 pm

    Don’cha love privatisation?

    You will not be happy until government runs everything. With cameras in every room, spying on everybody. And if somebody does not agree with your opinion who knows what you would do.

  33. October 4, 2020 9:37 pm

    Rachel Baxendale literally falsified a dialogue with the Premier to make out he lied: but somehow she’s the victim..?

  34. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 5, 2020 8:27 am

    How good is our government that-
    * was in charge of negligent safety systems and isolation procedures
    * had 700 cases a day when other states had 0 to 20
    * had the longest and most severe restrictions
    * had the highest number of fines, and the highest $$$ fines
    * a premier that gave the most self serving and sanctimonious speeches

    Go Dan!!

  35. October 5, 2020 11:38 am

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  36. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 5, 2020 3:58 pm

    More helpful transparency from Victoria Police. Now they don’t have to provide the footage from their body camera. And they can edit the footage
    Great! Everything here is just delightful!
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/police-camera-ruling-denies-courts-critical-evidence-20201004-p561wk.html

  37. Tom R permalink
    October 5, 2020 4:32 pm

    Rachel Baxendale literally falsified a dialogue with the Premier to make out he lied: but somehow she’s the victim..?

    Not only that, the remainder of the ‘churnalists’ gathered round to pat her on hte back and tell her what a bang up job she’s doing 😦

    At this rate, we’ll have angus “great job” taylor writing front line headlines for the papers soon … oh ……

  38. TB Queensland permalink
    October 5, 2020 5:05 pm

    You will not be happy until government runs everything.

    You really are an ignorant twat.

  39. Tom R permalink
    October 5, 2020 5:54 pm

    Top Tims in Vatican Tiff

    So, the witness is getting Buggered all over again, by the same fucking crowd. At least they have the murdoch rags to leak their filth too.

  40. October 5, 2020 8:54 pm

    Here’s the group of female journalists (the ones ToSY is so keen to protect) having a candid exchange while waiting for Dan Andrews without realising their conversation is being recorded..

    Form your own opinion…

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  41. Tony permalink
    October 6, 2020 12:12 am

    Um, if that’s all they’ve got, where’s the scandal?

  42. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2020 7:35 am

    Tosy, the scandal was a journo doctoring the transcript to try and defend her behavior, and the rest of the pack congratulating her for it. The video highlighted how they think they are the victims and that they haven’t learned a thing

  43. Tony permalink
    October 6, 2020 8:05 am

    The video highlighted how they think they are the victims

    Lol. The video highlighted how a group of junior journalists like to banter while waiting for the daily propaganda sessions I mean media conferences.

  44. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2020 8:33 am

    Oh, and as some wise woman once said. Don’t Write Shit!

  45. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2020 9:28 am

    What a time to be ali-[cough]-ive

  46. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2020 9:31 am

    And yet we are in depression? Where has all that money gone (it’s ok, we know 😉 )

  47. TB Queensland permalink
    October 6, 2020 10:40 am

    Is Trump faking it? Or just really, really dumber than I always thought?

    I suppose either way he’s fkn dangerous … or “incapacitated” …

  48. October 6, 2020 11:21 am

    “banter”

    Is that what we’re calling it these days… 🙄

  49. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2020 11:35 am

    well targeted banter perhaps, but still banter 😉

  50. October 6, 2020 1:35 pm

    Banter Bingo…!

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  51. October 6, 2020 1:42 pm

    On 1 September there were 2,352 active coronavirus cases in Victoria.

    Today there are 289.

  52. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2020 2:17 pm

    Today there are 289.

    #IBlameDan!

    rachel’s really going for broeke aint she.Well, I heard anyway 😉

  53. Tony permalink
    October 6, 2020 2:24 pm

    On 1 September there were 2,352 active coronavirus cases in Victoria.

    Because the Vic government failed to safely quarantine returned travellers, which is not even a controversial statement.

  54. October 6, 2020 2:29 pm

    Yeah but the lockdown infringes on my freedoms!!!

  55. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2020 2:30 pm

    which is not even a controversial statement.

    Except of course if you take the uncontroversial view that quarantine matters are a federal responsibility 😉

  56. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 6, 2020 2:36 pm

    No one seriously disputes that hotel quarantine was the responsibility of the state government.
    And it was a disgrace

  57. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2020 3:05 pm

    Srsly

    Simply put, the Australian Border Force is in charge of incoming arrivals, with the commonwealth given constitutionally articulated responsibility for quarantining. The Constitution, in section 51 (IX), lays out in black and white that the commonwealth, not the states, has oversight for quarantine. It is the basis for the Quarantine Act, which has not been legally challenged since 1908, including during the 1919 pandemic. We also now have the Biosecurity Act (2015), which provides extremely broad powers, and it mandates that commonwealth powers supersede those of the states.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/the-buck-on-quarantine-stops-with-the-commonwealth/news-story/eb81cf5c8dd6d3582ba710ee0552409f

  58. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 6, 2020 3:25 pm

    Has any state government ever said it should be the role of the federal?
    They rejected that. They didn’t want a one size fits all policy.
    This type of argument is truly pathetic

  59. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 6, 2020 3:31 pm

  60. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2020 3:35 pm

    Has any state government ever said it should be the role of the federal?

    Andrews has said he is happy for the morrison to release the discussions that took place in the national cabinet that shouldn’t be secret in the first place.

    morrison has refused

    YOU decide!

  61. Tom R permalink
    October 6, 2020 3:37 pm

    lol splats

  62. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 6, 2020 4:12 pm

    Given that the state government declined federal assistance for hotel quarantine, what evidence do you have that the state government wanted the federal government to do everything?

  63. October 6, 2020 4:25 pm

    Well colour me fkn surprised…!

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  64. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 6, 2020 4:49 pm

    That type of medication is recommended before any inquiry.
    It seems to work well.

  65. TB Queensland permalink
    October 6, 2020 4:55 pm

    Has any state government ever said it should be the role of the federal?
    They rejected that. They didn’t want a one size fits all policy.
    This type of argument is truly pathetic

    Ya reckon?

    Some state or territory laws cover areas where there is no federal law or their laws can be in line with federal law. If there is a clash between federal and state or territory laws, the federal law overrides them.

    Is there anything that you do know?

  66. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 6, 2020 5:03 pm

    Do try to keep up TB. Can you cite a single (state or federal) government that said the isolation program for returning travellers should be run by the federal government?
    Just one will do.

  67. TB Queensland permalink
    October 6, 2020 5:06 pm

    Well colour me fkn surprised…!

    LOL! Fkn, Elites, when caught, all sing from the same hymn book …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    And another thing … I’m sick of phucking phuckwits sitting in their phucking cars in their phucking driveways with their fucking engines running phiddling with their phucking mobile phones while people wait to walk across their phucking driveway without getting phucking run over!

    Phank youse …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    And another thing … what sort of franchise would terminate a franchisee of over 25 years, well known by all the locals for service to the community and employing half the kids in the suburb because he … “spent too much time supporting charities” … answer – an American franchise … the local Hungry Jacks is doing a bumper trade … wouldn’t want to be the new Maccas franchisee …

    I see a tiny sample of the US here …

  68. October 6, 2020 5:10 pm

    The dopey cnut in charge of USA!USA!USA! has gone and made another ill conceived bombastic promotional video (ala, teargassing streets so that he can pout all the way to a church and hold a bible upside down) of his ‘triumphant return’ to the Whitehouse.

    He really is a tone deaf, dense prick. No, really.

  69. TB Queensland permalink
    October 6, 2020 5:14 pm

    Just one will do.

    Well dodging responsibility – even a legal one – is all that the LNP do in Canberra … just what is the Border Force for … fishing trips …

    Our mission is to protect Australia’s border and enable legitimate travel and trade. Our vision is to be a global leader in border law enforcement and trusted partner that helps build a safe, secure and prosperous Australia. We aim to facilitate the movement of people and goods across the border.

    Please explain?

  70. TB Queensland permalink
    October 6, 2020 5:15 pm

    We aim to facilitate the movement of people and goods across the border.

    So just what does Border Force do …

  71. Tony permalink
    October 6, 2020 5:20 pm

    He really is a tone deaf, dense prick. No, really.

    He definitely is, to the tone you hear. But he is highly attuned to the orchestra his base dances to. You’re making the same mistake every so-called expert made before the last election.

  72. October 6, 2020 5:30 pm

    I should add…the video will no doubt achieve its intended salve for the slavering base.

    But, let’s face it, he could shit in a jar while he narrated a video over the top & they’d think he was Rambo.
    He doesn’t need to try so hard with the Goebbelesque Ganda Vids; he already has the ignorant flagwaving market cornered.

    “I don’t know…maybe I’m immune…etc”…what the actual fuck.

  73. Tony permalink
    October 6, 2020 6:04 pm

    “I don’t know…maybe I’m immune…etc

    Maybe he is, after having Teh Virus. Nobody knows that yet, do they.

  74. October 6, 2020 6:05 pm

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  75. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 6, 2020 6:15 pm

    Really TB, that’s your proof? Where has a state or federal minister said this was the responsibility of the federal government?
    Even when the state government here was on the ropes over their handling of the hotel quarantine they didn’t bother to use that excuse

  76. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 6, 2020 6:33 pm

    Don’t get me wrong about Trump. I don’t much like his affect, and I am happy to mock his gaffes, as one ought if one is to get any benefit out of watching politics. But compared to his corrupt, senile, kiddiefiddling opponent who has already been bought and paid for by China ($1.5bn invested with Biden’s coke-head son who had no relevant business experience) Trump is clearly the better candidate.

    Biden can’t help himself. This from today:

  77. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 6, 2020 6:50 pm

    It’s 2020, just add it to the fucking pile.”

    True that.

    Also, modern B&D establishments would do well to pay close attention to the excellent quality of the binding of the mummy. I’m sure that those who can raise their standards and offer an authentic Egyptian experience are bound to profit from the patronage of discerning devotees of domination.

  78. October 6, 2020 7:16 pm

    “Maybe he is, after having Teh Virus. Nobody knows that yet, do they.”

    I can make vague, unprovable pronouncements too. It seems you already agree that “nobody knows that yet”…so why does a particularly commonly deceitful individual, with massive vested interest, get the benefit of the doubt?

    You guys are tethering yourselves to the wrong wagon. The intelligent amongst you are leaving enough hairsplitting and ambiguity to assume that you’re not wedded to it all.
    What you’re actually doing is establishing indefensible precedents which you’d never tolerate the polar alternative.

    I wrote my follow up comment before I’d read your reply (you’ll have to take my word for it, my brother was here) …so I’d say “You’re making the same mistake every so-called expert made before the last election” is not a correct appraisal of my analysis, going forward.
    I acknowledge 2016…and the loss of the popular vote (Trump hasn’t/won’t) and the fact that his tripe panders to the beholden, not the undecided.

  79. TB Queensland permalink
    October 6, 2020 7:28 pm

    Where has a state or federal minister said this was the responsibility of the federal government?

    I don’t need proof … its the Border Forces own Purpose Statement! Not mine …

  80. October 6, 2020 7:30 pm

    “But compared to his corrupt[willingly released tax returns], senile[person woman man camera TV], kiddiefiddling[“I just walk in on miss teen america contestants undressing, coz I run the tournament”] opponent who has already been bought and paid for by China[because Don Jr, Eric & Ivanka aren’t compromised at all] ($1.5bn invested with Biden’s coke-head son who had no relevant business experience) Trump is clearly the better candidate.”

    Err…

  81. October 6, 2020 7:31 pm

    Trumpists attacking the other side for nepotism is fucking mindboggling.

  82. TB Queensland permalink
    October 6, 2020 7:32 pm

    … would do well to pay close attention to the excellent quality of the binding of the mummy …

    2,500 years … mmmm

    Glad you noticed, sb … my thoughts exactly having spent time in Egypt (esp. Cairo Museum) and the British Museum … just as aside our lounge is decorated/furnished with Egyptian artifacts …

  83. Tony permalink
    October 6, 2020 7:34 pm

    I can make vague, unprovable pronouncements too. It seems you already agree that “nobody knows that yet”…so why does a particularly commonly deceitful individual, with massive vested interest, get the benefit of the doubt?

    I’ll assume you’re missing my meaning, otherwise you’re way off the mark here.

    1: Trump (supposedly) had the virus. 2: For some viruses this gives (limited) immunity to the same strain of the same virus. 3: Nobody knows for sure whether this is the case with the virus popularly known as COVID-19. 5: Trump, by having this virus, may or may not now be immune. 6: Therefore, his statement “I don’t know…maybe I’m immune” is as correct a statement about his possible immunity as he could make.

  84. TB Queensland permalink
    October 6, 2020 7:34 pm

    I acknowledge 2016…and the loss of the popular vote (Trump hasn’t/won’t) and the fact that his tripe panders to the beholden, not the undecided.

    And let’s not forget those US voters who didn’t vote in 2016 but are likely to in 2020 …

  85. October 6, 2020 7:35 pm

    Wouldn’t wanna be in Chris Christie’s skinsuit right now.

    He better hope it’s a fake news hoax virus.

    #everyonedon’tmentionthehermancain

  86. TB Queensland permalink
    October 6, 2020 7:37 pm

    Trumpists attacking the other side for nepotism is fucking mindboggling.

    Projection in the extreme …

  87. October 6, 2020 7:37 pm

    “And let’s not forget those US voters who didn’t vote in 2016 but are likely to in 2020 …”

    Yes, the whole world, let alone (little lone) the voting public in the USA! has had a good long look at the charlatan now. He hasn’t lost many, but I’m willing to propose that he’s won few and repelled several.

  88. October 6, 2020 7:41 pm

    ” Therefore, his statement “I don’t know…maybe I’m immune” is as correct a statement about his possible immunity as he could make.”

    He makes exactly these same types of vague statements regularly. It seems patently obvious that he’s being deliberately ambivalent, for expedient benefit.

    I may have misinterpreted your statement, but I am reading Trump’s calculated nonsense loud and clear.

  89. TB Queensland permalink
    October 6, 2020 7:43 pm

    Trump, by having this virus …

    The biggest assumption … although you began with … 1: Trump (supposedly) had the virus.

    2: For some viruses this gives (limited) immunity to the same strain of the same virus.

    Or not … shingles can lie dormant in you spine for decades (I found out last year) … it derives from chicken pox – I suffered that as a six year old …

  90. October 6, 2020 7:44 pm

    It is going to be a captivating couple of months, politically.

    One way or the other.

  91. October 6, 2020 7:46 pm

    He’d wanna be sure he isn’t going downhill in a few days. Massive gambit.

    No sense of the wicker man he’s plaited himself into today.

  92. Tony permalink
    October 6, 2020 7:47 pm

    Biden is favourite on Sportsbet at $1.55. Trump is currently $2.50. Last time Hillary was much shorter than Biden is now and Trump was around $5 when I my bets on.

    I wouldn’t bet this far out, but if the odds are good enough, I’ll be having something on Trump again.

  93. October 6, 2020 8:13 pm

    And that would be a calculated risk, and best of luck to you.

    I think the fact that Trump is no longer the semi-unknown quantity he was last time, coupled with his overt debauching of Justice Dept, State Dept etc etc, may render a different result.
    It’s hard for me to believe that people over there haven’t been paying attention.
    If nothing else, the belligerent flog is right up in everyone’s face.

  94. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 6, 2020 8:32 pm

    with his overt debauching of Justice Dept, State Dept etc etc, may render a different result

    I have no idea if that is a true or false statement. Where do you get the time to study US politics like that?

  95. October 6, 2020 9:21 pm

    I pay attention and remember stuff, Neil.

    Barr and Pompeo have indulged being blunt Trumpian tools.

    I can well imagine the reaction if his predecessor had sacked sundry whistleblowers and Inspector Generals.

    Only the most partisan think such behaviour is ethical. The precedent is being established and the checks and balances have been whittled thin.
    And, guess what?…the other side can now more easily adopt similar dubious postures going forward. Guess what else?…they may get the chance very soon.

  96. Tony permalink
    October 6, 2020 10:39 pm

    but I am reading Trump’s calculated nonsense loud and clear

    Is Trump faking having the virus or faking recovery? Or both? So confusing.

  97. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2020 8:23 am

    “I can well imagine the reaction if his predecessor had sacked sundry whistleblowers and Inspector Generals.”

    He did. The reaction was exactly as you would expect from the fake news media – criticism of the those Obama sacked.

    Barr, despite being a bit swampy himself, is making some effort to clean up the DoJ. He fucked up by not charging Democrat operative McCabe who the (Obama appointed) Inspector-General recommended for prosecution. He also let Clinesmith plead rather than throwing the book at the cunt.

    I don’t think we have gotten to the bottom of the Democrat depravity yet but we do know this:

    • Clinton (not the rapist Clinton, the slander-the-victim Clinton) OK’d a plan to attack Trump saying that Trump was conspiring with Russians;

    • The Clinton campaign constructed a pack of lies using the services of a Russian spy working (unsurprisingly) at a left think tank;

    • The Russians knew that their spy was colluding with the Clinton campaign;

    • The FBI knew all of the above and used the pack of lies to defraud the FISA court to grant warrants to spy on the Trump campaign and presidency;

    All of the above (and much, much more) would have been swept under the rug if Clinton had won.

    The US has now one last chance to get rid of the festering corruption rotting its institutions from within. Trump is the last best hope to do this.

  98. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2020 8:44 am

    Biden’s gonna be pissed at this attack on his favourite movie:

  99. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2020 8:56 am

  100. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2020 9:02 am

    Not The Bee is a spin-off for stories that the Babylon Bee would do if they weren’t real:

  101. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2020 9:12 am

    Or both? So confusing.

    Welcome to trumps world. When you lie about everything, every scenario is on the table.

    Texas Grand Jury

    So, a group of dog fearing repressives elected by another group or dog fearing repressives have an issue with “a film which depicts exactly what kids struggle with, made by a woman who lived it. ” These are the same people who made the laws where it is ok to dress little girls up in bikini’s for “beauty pageants” to begin with, but now they don’t like the spotlight being turned on their little ‘slice of heaven’?

    2020 never fails to amaze

  102. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2020 9:16 am

    This truly stupid and monumentally unselfaware cretin forgot to check her own avatar before flapping her gums:

  103. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2020 9:21 am

    “When you lie about everything, every scenario is on the table.”,

    Lyin’ Joe Biden repeats the lie about Trumps Charlottesville comments every chance he gets.

    So, a group of dog fearing repressives … yada yada yada”

    The camel-toe crotch shot of an eleven year old is Joe’s favourite scene. I assume you don’t want that censored either.

  104. Tony permalink
    October 7, 2020 9:30 am

    Not The Bee.

    Yep, if the Babylon Bee wrote this, people would think they’d jumped the shark. Welcome to Victoria, where bureaucrats issue rules on blowing out bithday candles. For your own good, of course.

  105. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2020 9:54 am

    Typical democrat. Typical Fake News response:

  106. Tony permalink
    October 7, 2020 10:13 am

  107. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2020 10:20 am

    She looks suspiciously like Dr. Karin Baker-Thompkins who has an extremely funny twitter feed!

  108. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2020 10:21 am

    “Priorities”

    So there is no money for child-care subsidies etc in this budget?

  109. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2020 10:24 am

    So there is no money for child-care subsidies etc in this budget?

    Funding, not subsidies to rich plonkers

  110. TB Queensland permalink
    October 7, 2020 10:31 am

    Trump is the last best hope to do this.

    (S)nuff said … 🙄

  111. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2020 10:45 am

    “(S)nuff said …”

    Biden has spent half a century enriching his family from the swamp.

    I’m sure Biden has now found religion and is desperate to drain the swamp! 😉

  112. TB Queensland permalink
    October 7, 2020 10:50 am

    Funding, not subsidies to rich plonkers

    Yep, still pushing trickle down economics … Liberal (or should I say extreme right wing) ideology all over this budget … once again showing absolute ignorance in how a capitalist economy actually works …

    What we have now is a Liberal Handout Fest most money going to the Elites who can survive quite well in present who will simply bank or invest it (dumb if the economy is stagnant) … and recovery from the recession turns into a depression …

    WHAT IF?

    The Federal Government was advised to offer support to the struggling, lower income households – they will spend – they have no choice – (and there are more of them than the comfortable/rich folk) … businesses benefit from increased sales and will then purchase more stock and begin to profit … (the “churning” wheel begins to turn) … businesses need more staff as sales increase … more people working … more sales … more profit … more tax (probably) … and the “multiplier effect kicks in …

    What we have is dumb and dumber ideological nonsensical Reagan Economics.

    IT WON”T WORK …

    And I see churnalists are calling two $250 payments to age pensioners a “bonus” payment … FMD! Bonus????

  113. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2020 12:28 pm

    Easy to see why they want to give money to organisations that hide kiddy fiddlers. Unlike the qanon inspired Democrat slurs, this is based in fact.

    https://7news.com.au/news/education/parents-outraged-as-hillsong-caught-recruiting-in-queensland-public-high-schools-c-612158

  114. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2020 12:49 pm

    Unlike Democrat disinfo, this is based in fact:

    WWG1WGA

  115. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2020 2:24 pm

    DECLASSIFICATION:

    “You keep using that word ….. ” 😉

    Seems the grubmints shit at picking … losers

    Or they’re just c()nts

  116. TB Queensland permalink
    October 7, 2020 2:34 pm

    TRUMP “I have instructed my representatives to stop negotiating until after the election when, immediately after I win, we will pass a major Stimulus Bill that focuses on hardworking Americans and Small Business.

    Interpretation … vote for me and I’ll stimulate the economy … that’s fkn blackmail in any language! Especially TrumpSpeak … the man is just a schoolyard bully … the GOP (what fkn joke) are simply his Schoolyard Gang!

    He is an Angel of the Devil.

  117. TB Queensland permalink
    October 7, 2020 2:35 pm

    Unlike Democrat disinfo, this is based in fact:

    “Fact” – Redacted notes? WTF?

  118. TB Queensland permalink
    October 7, 2020 2:38 pm

    Seems the grubmints shit at picking … losers

    Not what you meant surely? They are very good at picking loser … a few ministers spring to mind … beginning with the prime primate …

  119. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2020 3:01 pm

    ““Fact” – Redacted notes? WTF?”

    Nothing to see here – just Brennan’s handwritten note memorialising his briefing Obama:

    “We’re getting additional insight into Russian activities from [REDACTED],” Brennan’s handwritten notes state. “Cite alleged approval by Hillary Clinton–on 26 July–of a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisers to villify [sic] Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by the Russian security services.”

  120. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2020 3:09 pm

    “… that’s fkn blackmail in any language!”

    Actually it’s Sleazy Pelosi doing the blackmail:

    Pelosi’s Taxpayer Ransom Demand:

    President Trump decided Tuesday to walk away from talks on another coronavirus spending blowout until after the election, and that’s the best decision for the economy and taxpayers. Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Democrats refused to accept anything below $2 trillion, and their political ransom demand is what blew up the deal.

    Mrs. Pelosi’s calculation is pure political cynicism. Either Mr. Trump agreed to her terms, or she’d blame him for the failure and use it as an election issue. She didn’t want to risk giving Mr. Trump even half-credit for a relief bill before the election. She knows the media will spin it her way, and if Joe Biden wins in November she’ll be able to write an ever bigger spending bill disguised as “stimulus” next year.

    You almost have to admire the audacity of her demands. Our sources say the White House’s final offer was in the range of $1.6 trillion, but Mrs. Pelosi wouldn’t take it. Think about that. A Republican President was willing to spend an amount that was half the federal budget only a few years ago, and Mrs. Pelosi said no. Some spirit of compromise.

  121. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 7, 2020 3:25 pm

    Yep, still pushing trickle down economics … Liberal (or should I say extreme right wing) ideology all over this budget

    I doubt you have studied it. I certainly have not. But i have an elderly relative on the pension who got not one but two $750 stimulus payments.

    I suspect no matter who was in power the same policies would happen. Looks like the Socialist Public Service is running the country and the Coalition is just obeying orders

  122. Tom R permalink
    October 7, 2020 3:27 pm

    Our sources say t

    ROFL

    Well, let’s face it, the trump administration has been a pretty accurate place for sauces till now … haven’t they?

  123. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2020 3:30 pm

    Today’s example of the incoherent rambling racism of Creepy Joe Biden:

    “The American public, the blinders have been taken off. They’ve all of a sudden seen a hell of a lot clearer, they say, ‘geez, the reason I was able to stay sequestered in my home was because some Black woman was able to stack the grocery shelf’.”

  124. TB Queensland permalink
    October 7, 2020 3:59 pm

    His tips for pool owners included not letting water levels get too high – to prevent contaminants from the pool deck and surrounds washing in.

    Or flooding your neighbour’s backyard ! Voice of experience … from TWO poorly maintained fkn pools …

  125. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2020 4:00 pm

    Looks like Weasal Wray is going down guns blazing:

  126. TB Queensland permalink
    October 7, 2020 4:02 pm

    … their political ransom demand is what blew up the deal.

    And Trump is such an adept “negotiator” … Rule 1 My way or the Highway!

    The man is a turd in so many shit ways … you would understand that based on your shithouse experiences!

  127. TB Queensland permalink
    October 7, 2020 4:05 pm

    … pretty accurate place for sauces till now … haven’t they?

    Yep, tomato, ratshit, chilli, bullshit, mustard, horseshit, tobasco, catshit, ketchup, dogshit, ad infknitum …

  128. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2020 4:22 pm

    Chilli is best – you get to enjoy it coming and going!

  129. TB Queensland permalink
    October 7, 2020 4:41 pm

    Speak for yourself!

    Oh, wait!

  130. TB Queensland permalink
    October 7, 2020 4:43 pm

    Trump is certainly refilling the swamp … but ya need salt water for barracudas … they tend to die quickly in a fresh, clear, non-polluted environment … 😎

  131. October 7, 2020 4:45 pm

    “Is Trump faking having the virus or faking recovery? Or both? So confusing.”

    I have no idea. Either is possible, not that confusing.

    If I had to choose, I’d say that he’s got it, given that it would be really difficult to engineer so many of those in his inner circle also publicly ‘coming out’ with it (although I’m sure that they’d pretend to if he ‘insisted’). Occam’s Razor says that the simpler explanation (ie. they have it) is a better explanation than IT’S ALL A MASSIVE CONSPIRACY.

    I may reverse my thinking on that if/when they all come out and claim to be ‘maybe immune’…and, ‘it’s just like a flu, I feel better than twenty years ago!’.

    I meant that it’s easy to recognise his vague diffusions of reality & recognise their expedient political calculations when I hear them, when I said “I may have misinterpreted your statement, but I am reading Trump’s calculated nonsense loud and clear”.
    I acknowledge that I may have misunderstood your initial point, but Trump has fucking form, and is no articulate prosthelytiser, so his crap isn’t well hidden.

    Also, I doubt that day 3 is the time to be declaring ‘victory’ over the virus. I’m not even going to pretend to wish him well. A harsh dose might make the cnut take stock of what he’s ‘presided’ over (but most likely, he’d just feel more victimised and squeal louder about perceived injustices to HIM).

  132. October 7, 2020 4:50 pm

    “The US has now one last chance to get rid of the festering corruption rotting its institutions from within. Trump is the last best hope to do this.”

    I suppose it’s fine to watch FoxNews. But other sources are good too.

  133. October 7, 2020 4:52 pm

    “So, a group of dog fearing repressives elected by another group or dog fearing repressives have an issue with “a film which depicts exactly what kids struggle with, made by a woman who lived it. ” These are the same people who made the laws where it is ok to dress little girls up in bikini’s for “beauty pageants” to begin with, but now they don’t like the spotlight being turned on their little ‘slice of heaven’?”

    Very good point, TomR.

    Texas, FFS.

  134. October 7, 2020 4:54 pm

    Strangely, there are plenty of photos of Trump socialising with Epstein. Clinton too.

    The paedo attack on Biden is as confected as the nepotism allegations; when juxtaposed with the behaviour of the person who’s been in charge for the last four years.

  135. October 7, 2020 4:58 pm

    “I’m sure Biden has now found religion and is desperate to drain the swamp!”

    Trump couldn’t even spell religion, and does a terrible impersonation of someone trying to be religious!

    Are you suggesting that Biden ISN’T a practising Catholic? Seems a bit disingenuous.

  136. October 7, 2020 5:03 pm

    “Think about that. A Republican President was willing to spend an amount that was half the federal budget only a few years ago”

    Think about it.

    Trump was willing to absolutely explode government debt to enact his tax cuts a few years back.
    Not quite in line with his sudden prudence in the face of helping out the lower income majority.

    All of the crap about only slandering ‘democrat run states’ is fucking comical too.

  137. October 7, 2020 5:06 pm

    This thread is going to be fun for a while.:)

    I have missed the jousting…I think.

  138. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 7, 2020 6:01 pm

    “Are you suggesting that Biden ISN’T a practising Catholic? Seems a bit disingenuous.”

    Neither is Sleazy Pelosi. You can’t support abortion legislation and be a Catholic.

    Biden has just threatened to legislate Roe v. Wade which permits abortion up until birth. He is only pretending to be a Catholic for the votes.

    “This thread is going to be fun for a while.:)”

    I hope so. Unfortunately I’ve friends for dinner tonight. We plan to get trashed and watch Trump videos!

  139. October 7, 2020 6:18 pm

    “I hope so. Unfortunately I’ve friends for dinner tonight. We plan to get trashed and watch Trump videos!”

    I am not sure if you’re toying with me or not.

    ” You can’t support abortion legislation and be a Catholic.”

    Very interesting, you are angling for a schism in your church? in an era where people are ‘turning away’ from dogmatic ‘rubbish’ (my inflection).

    Seems unwise. Also, seems inherently partisan. Could go search for ‘unCatholic’ Republicans; by your loose standard, I bet my balls there are plenty.

    What other ‘legislation’ do you consider to be unCatholic?

    Honest question. I always assumed you were politically affiliated, but not filled with religious zeal. I personally know a few Catholics, fwiw.

  140. October 7, 2020 6:22 pm

    He is/was, an active Corona virus patient, proving, beyond doubt, that he wasn’t immune (unless he lied about positive result).
    Perhaps he meant that he’s immune going forward, ala, not going to catch it AGAIN?
    Either way, he’s still a fucking vector for transmission. Irresponsible, ignorant cnut.

  141. October 7, 2020 6:26 pm

    And exactly which vague denomination is Trump? One of the regular ‘make it up as you go along’ ones, I assume?

    Impossible to nail down.

    I’m more than happy for unwanted pregnancies to be terminated.
    I live in the real world, not fantasyland.
    The same people who regularly cringe about such could care fucking less when their side liquidates adults of opposing ideoligies in sanctioned international liquidations.

    ProLife my ballbag.

  142. October 7, 2020 6:30 pm

    To me, the non-religious, some would even say anti-theist, outsider, it seems that only the expedient and cynical bits of teh book of fables is being engorged about by his lickspittles.

  143. October 7, 2020 6:34 pm

    At least the Catholics have structured dogma (which leads them, verily, to logical contortions to attempt to stay relevant).
    I have little respect for the ‘chhoose your own adventure’ religious approach.
    I am a baptised Lutheran.
    I respect them about as much as the Catholics. Luther’s logic seems fine…apart from the underlying, fundamental worship of intangible imaginings.

    I could invent a wild and fantastical religion tomorrow.

    If I called it QTrump, and my hooks were populist and inviting, I’d be killing the fucking pig.

  144. TB Queensland permalink
    October 7, 2020 8:10 pm

    This thread is going to be fun for a while.:)

    I have missed the jousting…I think.

    Enjoying every word!

    I am not sure if you’re toying with me or not. Yes, you do!

    If I called it QTrump, and my hooks were populist and inviting, I’d be killing the fucking pig.

    LOL!

    I was baptised CofE at seven … about the time I began questioning the BS … unfortunately it stuck with my sister (or just greed kicked in) who later became a Catlick after the Vatican annulled her first marriage so she could marry into a family of seven kids all vying for the family millions … I last saw her … mmm fk knows.

    Life is fkn weird …

    TRUMP is not weird … he is fkn dangerous!

  145. TB Queensland permalink
    October 7, 2020 8:14 pm

    WOW! Frydenberg!

    “What I will say, is that we take COVID-19 very seriously. It’s a deadly virus. And it’s taken lives and it doesn’t discriminate between age groups. Doesn’t discriminate between race or religion or backgrounds and that is why we have placed health measures first and foremost in our response and those health measures have been working with – as we partner with the states in that response.”

    Points from me … (with some reservations)

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/josh-frydenberg-distances-himself-from-donald-trump-over-covid19-claims/news-story/8ef9ebee31fcd838d9e5ed464ad21f42

  146. Tony permalink
    October 7, 2020 10:56 pm

    I suppose it’s fine to watch FoxNews. But other sources are good too.

    If someone had only watched, say, the ABC here in OZ last time round they would have been flabbergasted that Trump won. The result went against everything they’d assured their audience would happen. (I could list hundreds of such outlets in the US and elsewhere but won’t bother.) At keast Fox News viewers were aware the outcome of the two horse race would be determined by an election and not a coronation.

  147. Tony permalink
    October 7, 2020 11:02 pm

    Perhaps he meant that he’s immune going forward, ala, not going to catch it AGAIN?

    Jeez. You only just got my point. He’s had it so now he might be immune. Nobody knows.

  148. ivi permalink
    October 8, 2020 2:58 am

    (Jeez. You only just got my point. He’s had it so now he might be immune. Nobody knows.

    Indeed. Imagine you’re a very stable super genius who is fantastically quick on the uptake, who has been informed about the upsides, and the downsides, of consenting to an experimental cocktail of droogs, including monoclonal antibodies, affecting your body’s (un)natural immune response(s) to (a) pathogen (load)s); then, imagine that you’re a manipulative, narcissistic sociopath whose only frame(s) of reference is self( and alter(cast)): which nobody-knows is it who was/is infected/infectious; who doesn’t know whether or not he/they has/had/have immunity(ies); and who continues to share freely his indomitable nth-hand knowledge about a potentially-deadly, relatively-novel virus, while developing immunity, if any, at best?)

  149. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2020 8:28 am

    you would understand that based on your shithouse experiences!

    going on the photo anyway 😉

    Either way, he’s still a fucking vector for transmission. Irresponsible, ignorant cnut.

    Apparently all the chiefs are in quarantine. Yes, the ones Marise Payne was just hobnobbing with in a sealed room without a mask, who then flew of to Japan to talk to them, without a mask. Why am I thinking of that final scene in 12 Monkeys all of a sudden?

    The same people who regularly cringe about such could care fucking less when their side liquidates adults of opposing ideoligies in sanctioned international liquidations.

    Many are also the same who don’t mind sacrificing a few pensioners for their portfolio either

    We plan to get trashed and watch Trump videos!

    There’s another way? Here’s a better way 🙂

  150. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2020 8:34 am

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/06/us-military-chiefs-coronavirus-quarantine-mark-milley-trump

  151. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2020 8:49 am

    “Very interesting, you are angling for a schism in your church?”

    I don’t think the Pope is Catholic either. Fucking commie sold out the Chinese Catholics to the CCP. The Frankster hasn’t seen a pedo priest he doesn’t like. He may well be the anti-Christ!

    If the Catholic church is the one true church instituted by Jesus Christ then it can’t change its substantive teachings. Schism is already here, bought by the modernist Marxists who infiltrated the church to pollute it with all manner of heresy.

    The Catholic church has become a cesspit of corruption. The early Christians died rather than acknowledge pagan idols and they became saints. John Paul II kissed the Koran and the modernist church made him a saint:

    And the death penalty should be reinstated for doctors who perform late term abortions.

  152. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2020 9:12 am

    I guess when it’s all spin, and no substance, then of course ‘confusion’ will reign. It’s a feature, not a bug

    Confusion has erupted over exactly how much the budget’s tax cuts will be worth and when Australians will receive them, with economists saying they’re worth only $1080 – not $2160.
    ..
    So, the $2160 “tax relief” is the sum of changes announced in the past three budgets combined – not last night alone

    Indeed, a table buried in the budget documents shows people on incomes from $50,000 to $90,000 will get “0” additional tax cut under the bringing forward of the Stage 2 tax cuts.

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2020/10/07/tax-cut-confusion/

    I remember when they used to give with one hand, and take with the other. Now they’re just taking, and lying outright about the giving

  153. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2020 9:41 am

    Oh no! The birthday cake tweet has been deleted. Self-important bureaucrats don’t like to be ridiculed.

  154. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2020 10:14 am

  155. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2020 10:42 am

    Man Who Agrees With The Media, Universities, Corporations

    Wait, these three agree?

    I see trumPs been getting about

  156. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2020 11:56 am

    bovver boys will bovver. Just a tad touchy aren’t they. Free Speech warriors, time to step up?

  157. TB Queensland permalink
    October 8, 2020 12:04 pm

    White House quietly told vets groups it may have exposed Gold Star family members with COVID

    Well, we all know what he thinks of vets …

  158. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2020 12:09 pm

  159. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2020 12:11 pm

    “Well, we all know what he thinks of vets …”

    Do tell?

  160. October 8, 2020 1:23 pm

    $16 million for Indigenous Health.

    $61 million for school chaplains.

    And you cunts defend this so-called ‘government’.

  161. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2020 1:33 pm

    I don’t. They’re dumb mongrels. And Running Dog Dan is even worse.

  162. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2020 2:36 pm

    $16 million for Indigenous Health

    Hmmm. That doesn’t sound right.

    This Budget provides $4 billion in Indigenous health funding over the coming four years, including $975.5 million in 2020–21. It builds on our efforts to work in partnership with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to improve health outcomes.

    https://www.health.gov.au/ministers/the-hon-greg-hunt-mp/media/budget-2020-21-record-health-and-aged-care-investment-under-australias-covid-19-pandemic-plan

  163. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2020 2:52 pm

    And you cunts defend this so-called ‘government’.

    Well, yea ..

    High-income earners to reap 88% of Coalition’s tax cuts by 2021-22

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/oct/07/high-income-earners-to-reap-88-of-coalitions-tax-cuts-by-2021-22

  164. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2020 3:00 pm

    High-income earners to reap 88% of Coalition’s tax cuts by 2021-22

    Is that so?

    The government disputes the analysis, arguing that because the low- and middle-income tax offset was set to expire, that middle-income earners are permanently $1,080 better off every year with a double benefit in 2020-21 … Despite the argument over the fairness of distribution and pressure from the Greens to reject them, Labor will help the Coalition pass the tax cuts

  165. Tom R permalink
    October 8, 2020 3:36 pm

    Hmmm. That doesn’t sound right.

    Additional 😉

    Is that so?

    That doesn’t change the 88% figure, that’s just the bickering over the 1080 figure (which is very misleading)

  166. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2020 3:49 pm

    That doesn’t change the 88% figure

    You’ve already admitted numbers aren’t your thing. But Labor are supporting it, so ….

  167. Tony permalink
    October 8, 2020 4:07 pm

  168. October 8, 2020 5:44 pm

    “And the death penalty should be reinstated for doctors who perform late term abortions.”

    To that, I can only say keep your fucking antiquated religious zeal to yourself. I hope you’re joking.
    That’s no better than fundamentalism of any stripe…Islamic or otherwise.

    My mother is a Doctor and my daughter is a Medical Student who’s going to be one.
    They both have empathy and sound morals and good judgement. No fantastical shit should ever influence their decision making.
    Anyone puts them on death row and I would make it my remaining life’s work to end them.

  169. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 8, 2020 5:58 pm

    $16 million for Indigenous Health.

    $61 million for school chaplains.

    And you cunts defend this so-called ‘government’.

    Determining your vote on one or two policies is a bit silly. But there is not much difference between the 2 parties anymore. I suspect the Public Service is running the country and the Coalition just does what the PS says.

  170. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2020 6:06 pm

    Hi TBoss – you sound as excitable this afternoon as I did this morning!

    Josef Mengele was a doctor too. And he too managed to convince himself that those he killed and mutilated were not fully human. So was Kermit Gosnell.

    Basic science is not fantastical shit. Late term abortions are the killing of an innocent human who is quite capable of surviving outside the womb. Murdering them is evil. Just because you know how to use a stethoscope doesn’t mean you are not a murderer.

    OK, maybe not the death penalty (except for the likes of Gosnell).

  171. October 8, 2020 6:13 pm

    “Jeez. You only just got my point. He’s had it so now he might be immune. Nobody knows.”

    Is that the point that you think the MAGA-limpets will take out of his broken sentences? Because I don’t think it is.

  172. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2020 6:16 pm

    The first job of government is to keep public order. Otherwise no one is free and the mob rules. This is what the party of Soros wants:

  173. October 8, 2020 6:24 pm

    ” you sound as excitable this afternoon as I did this morning!”

    Haha. Fair enough. I understand that it’s a touchy subject.

    I’m mainly showing my hackles because of immediate family, whom would have been encapsulated with the Capital Punishment. I find such blanket judgement abhorrent, particularly when it’s religiously motivated.
    Freedom of religion doesn’t mean that the imposition of a religious person’s particular foibles and fancies upon the rest of us is okay or permitted; that’s how shitful societies run. They should keep in mind that there are multiple degrees of other religions. I favour none of them.

    Do you REALLY think that Trump gives two squirts about abortion? (outside of the obvious base agitation it provides him)

    I have read several books about Mengele. I would suggest that the overwhelming majority of doctors aren’t wired that way at all.
    Bad example, for mine.

    I am fine with abortion as an available option. I see it pragmatically. An unwanted child is likely to make for a hard life for said child, and a hard life for the prospective parents, who supposedly don’t want it. When the prospective parents don’t agree, the morals get murkier.
    You will never convince me that an unborn child is a person. I grew up on a farm. I am immune to gore and understand hard choices.

  174. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2020 6:33 pm

    I think that if a child is able to be born alive then it should be given that option.

    You will never convince me that an unborn child is a person. “

    What is it – a fucking dog?

    So what happens – one second it is not a person and a millimetre more down the birth canal and it magically becomes a human?

  175. October 8, 2020 6:38 pm

    Stalin used to purge doctors and intellectuals. I wouldn’t have taken you for someone aligned with that sort of thing.

    Just goes to show, extremists of all stripes should be ridiculed and shunned. The particular religion or political affiliation is a moot point, once things like ‘death to those we don’t agree with’ starts seriously getting bandied around.
    I suspect you know this and agree with it anyway.

  176. October 8, 2020 6:46 pm

    “What is it – a fucking dog?

    So what happens – one second it is not a person and a millimetre more down the birth canal and it magically becomes a human?”

    Of course it’s not a dog.

    This stuff emotes you. I am not particularly bothered by it. That’s life (and death).

    I don’t like people treating most living things badly, but I’m not precious about it. Do you eat meat? I do. It’s delicious.
    I don’t like living things suffering. But I live in the world I live in, not the one I wish I lived in.

    To me, Trump fans obsessing over abortion, while somehow looking past the 200,000+ dead people as he expediently minimises a global pandemic is puzzling. It’s the ultimate middle finger to science, medicine, reason and good governance.
    Makes it very hard for me to see the ProLife angle as anything other than religious fetishism. Apologies if that’s not you.

    My mum is actually not in favour of abortion, per se.

  177. October 8, 2020 6:48 pm

    I also think that suggesting Biden is okay with permitting abortion up until birth is a bit disingenuous.

    Similarly, most abortions would not be left until the last minute, without serious medical reasons for doing so.

  178. October 8, 2020 6:52 pm

    “Well, we all know what he thinks of vets …”

    All of the available public statements (which aren’t just puerile fluff) suggest that he thinks they’re a great demographic to harvest politically…until they start unhelpfully disagreeing with the opportunist in charge.

    Very similar to his treatment of all people and demographics whom he senses he can nourish political benefit from.

  179. October 8, 2020 7:03 pm

    “Determining your vote on one or two policies is a bit silly. But there is not much difference between the 2 parties anymore. I suspect the Public Service is running the country and the Coalition just does what the PS says.”

    Unholy fucking hell!

    I strongly agree with the basic thrust of this.

    I do however think that most of the public service are probably just boffins and niche employees doing their best to run things according to current orthodoxy…until governments start stacking them.

  180. October 8, 2020 7:14 pm

    “Indeed. Imagine you’re a very stable super genius who is fantastically quick on the uptake”

    Indeed!

    Almost missed you in the maelstrom, IvI.

  181. October 8, 2020 7:21 pm

    In response to your post, IvI.

    His response shits me on many levels. Leader of a fucking broomcloset, only just, as long as the powerpoints have masking tape over them and the sharp objects and brooms are removed.

    Selfish fucking prick.

    Would be funny if his prognostications and deliberations didn’t impact so many outside of his immediate sphere of confluence.

  182. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 8, 2020 7:30 pm

    Christians would say that all human life is sacred because it is humans that are endowed with a spark of the divine. This is the basis of human rights.

    The US constitution puts it thus:

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

    This is the basis of human rights.

    There are two possible basic ethical rules. The first is do unto others as you would have them do unto you which is fairly similar to Kan’ts categorical imperative: “Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law” Under this rule individual liberty is paramount.

    The other is Mill’s greatest good for the greatest number. Under that rule you can sacrifice individuals for the greater good.

    If you adopt the first rule you are less likely to support abortion. Adopting the second is more pragmatic but I don’t like it. It’s what the Chinese government would say as it harvest organs from political prisoners.

  183. October 8, 2020 7:34 pm

    I need to properly read, digest and think about that.

    Having tea.

    Will reply in time.

  184. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 8, 2020 8:14 pm

    I do however think that most of the public service are probably just boffins and niche employees doing their best to run things according to current orthodoxy

    I suspect most of the Public Service are socialists. They like the ALP and despise the Coalition.

    When Howard/Costello were in govt they told the PS what the policies were going to be. I suspect since 2007 the PS have told the govt what the policies are going to be and the govt says nothing.

  185. TB Queensland permalink
    October 8, 2020 8:30 pm

    Anyone puts them on death row and I would make it my remaining life’s work to end them.

    I hear that call, bro!!!!

    I think that if a child is able to be born alive then it should be given that option.

    And you would care for them? There are many reasons for abortion … and none are religious!

    Christians would say that all human life is sacred because it is humans that are endowed with a spark of the divine. This is the basis of human rights.

    Christians …

    We are not IN America … however much you want to be in the 51st state!

    Its not the basis of human rights … its a religious outpouring !

    And then you quote what!

    And we don’t live in CHINA!

    A woman’s womb is her property not any religion … run by men!

    And it is not a “theoretical discourse between religion and psychology” determining a woman’s choice …

    All religionshave caused more wars, suffering, torture, peadophilia, waste of “treasure” greed, deceit, deaths and destruction and social misery than anything else in the world – and continue to do so!

  186. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 9, 2020 8:40 am

    “don’t like people treating most living things badly, but I’m not precious about it. Do you eat meat? I do. It’s delicious.
    I don’t like living things suffering. But I live in the world I live in, not the one I wish I lived in.”

    Fundamentally there is not a lot of difference between the various protagonists here. We just dive down different rabbit holes.

  187. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2020 9:18 am

    We just dive down different rabbit holes.

    Are you sure it’s a rabbit hole you’re in? Check your avatar.

    It’s the ultimate middle finger to science, medicine, reason and good governance.

    It’s scary, and it’s dangerous. As is trump playing chicken with a Civil War

    There are many reasons for abortion … and none are religious!

    For some, everything’s religious, see toiletwithlotsoflettersafterits point above

  188. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 9:24 am

    In new evidence to the HQ enquiry Jenny Mikakos tips a bucket on Dan Andrews: treat his evidence with caution. I’d go one step further: treat *everything* Daniel Andrews says with *extreme* caution.

  189. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 9, 2020 9:27 am

    The fact that Harris/Biden won’t state their position on:

    • Packing the Supreme Court;
    • Which judges are under consideration for the Supreme Court; and
    • Whether they favour the end of the legislative filibuster

    until after the election shows utter contempt for voters who apparently aren’t allowed to know these things.

  190. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 9, 2020 9:29 am

    “Are you sure it’s a rabbit hole you’re in? Check your avatar.”

    [Checks avatar] Well bugger me! 🙂

  191. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2020 9:36 am

    Well bugger me!

    lol. Too late perhaps? 😉

    Love this. Schadenfrydenberg

  192. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 9, 2020 9:43 am

    Tony, that is great shot of Running Dog Dan. He looks like he still has last night’s sex toys wedged in his cavity of depravity!

    What he really needs is to have a seven foot tall trucker grab his ears from behind and give him an old fashioned hate fuck.

  193. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 9:44 am

    Click to access Submission%2010%20The%20Hon.%20Jenny%20Mikakos.pdf

  194. October 9, 2020 9:48 am

    “Jenny Mikakos tips a bucket on Dan Andrews”

    Well if it’s in the Herald Sun it must be true.

    Sadly, I’m not a ‘subscriber’ so I’m unable to read that crap your link.

  195. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 9:49 am

    Mikakos supplementary statement: Link

  196. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 9:52 am

    Sadly, I’m not a ‘subscriber’ so I’m unable to read that crap your link.

    How about The Age:

  197. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 9:56 am

    Try here (Submission 10): https://www.quarantineinquiry.vic.gov.au/submissions

  198. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2020 10:01 am

    In new evidence to the HQ enquiry Jenny Mikakos tips a bucket on Dan Andrews

    Considering, to date, her ‘evidence’ has been found to be lacking, in the extreme …

    I see NSW is experiencing an uptick in cases. It’s a good thing they’ve got the Vic tracing model to rely on now. Here’s hoping this doesn’t get away from them.

  199. October 9, 2020 10:07 am

    Thank youse, I was just reading it at the ABC…

    As a mere bystander, I get the feeling that Mikakos has been well and truly thrown under the bus.

    I’m not quite sure why she’s implicating Martin Pakula should jointly share the blame.

    Mikakos always struck me as being out of her depth. Not sure why, just a ‘vibe’.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-09/jenny-mikakos-hotel-quarantine-inquiry-martin-pakula-accountable/12746642

  200. October 9, 2020 10:08 am

    “I see NSW is experiencing an uptick in cases.”

    Does that mean Scott Morrison will now declare VIC the new gold standard…?

  201. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2020 10:18 am

    Does that mean Scott Morrison will now declare VIC the new gold standard

    Pretty it’ll mean it’s the Vic tracing IT system that let everyone down 😉

  202. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 9, 2020 10:36 am

    I think Mikakos was wilfully ignorant.
    Pakula’s department signed the hotel isolation contracts, knowing the way security contractors cut corners.
    So his time is up too

  203. October 9, 2020 10:53 am

    I imagine there’ll be plenty of room under the bus by the time the enquiry’s through.

    But hey, at least Labor ministers are held accountable for their actions (or inactions).

    It would be nice to see the same level of accountability applied to ‘the other side’.

  204. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2020 11:24 am

    It would be nice to see the same level of accountability applied to ‘the other side’.

    Yea, like that’s gonna happen. They know if they ever let that happen, none of ’em, would be left

  205. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 9, 2020 11:36 am

    Running Dog Dan has been held accountable? Fallen on his sword then?

  206. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2020 11:50 am

    Fallen on his sword then?

    For bringing a major outbreak back under almost control better than anywhere else in the world?

  207. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2020 11:55 am

    Why not, he did it in the last federal election.

    Clive Palmer declares he will ‘decide who the government is’ in Queensland’s state election

    https://www.9news.com.au/national/clive-palmer-queensland-election-2020/6fe85320-b9df-49b0-81c1-d510e5f34f72

  208. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 9, 2020 12:15 pm

    “bringing the outbreak under control ”
    Very amusing, and his government was in control when the outbreak got out of control!
    …and I’d be entirely happy for Colbeck to say farewell. He’s also incompetent.

  209. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2020 12:25 pm

    and his government was in control when the outbreak got out of control!

    Nobody’s denying that. The argument is, every state has had major breaches and blunders. One got away. The one that no one expected. Even though nothing is done differently. Security guards are used in most states, NSW included, and the breaches they have made are arguably worst than what happened in Victoria, and that’s without an inquiry to dig down on.

  210. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 9, 2020 12:28 pm

  211. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2020 12:29 pm

    poor old rachel, looks like all the bullying has got to her. So they need someone else to make a complete ass of themselves

    Step up peta credless

  212. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 12:31 pm

    Peta Credlin will be trending on twitter. She gatecrashed the Daily Dan press conference. The Danbots will hate it.

  213. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 9, 2020 12:34 pm

    “bringing the outbreak under control “

    You mean after murdering 800 people he is now actually trying to do his job properly instead of awarding contracts to his incompetent mates!

  214. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 12:35 pm

    Also she is confused and says they’d need a warrant. They don’t.

    Maybe, maybe not. He’s a Guardian (tech?) reporter, she’s a lawyer. At this stage I’ll go with her.

  215. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 12:47 pm

    Lol. Twitter is melting down because Credlin “is not a journalist”, therefore Dan shouldn’t answer her questions. She’s more of a journalist than some of the junior cannon-fodder the “news”rooms send in for Dan to dominate.

  216. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 9, 2020 1:09 pm

    Heavens! Imagine someone with an opinion asking Dan a question!!
    There’s probably a law against that, and if there isn’t, Dan will probably correct that oversight soon enough.

  217. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2020 1:11 pm

    The Danbots will hate it.

    Actually, it just shows how desperate the rwdbgs are.

    You mean after murdering 800 people

    I think that you’ll find the feds are responsible for the largest number of ‘murders’, if that’s the path you choose to take.

    She’s more of a journalist than some of the junior cannon-fodder the “news”rooms send in for Dan to dominate.

    Hard to argue with that. She’s sharp!

  218. TB Queensland permalink
    October 9, 2020 1:11 pm

  219. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2020 1:30 pm

    lol TB, nice 🙂

    The Danbots will hate it.

    I love the way they crap on about ‘danbots’ etc, but the ‘independent’ news are relegated to sending a political apparatchik to ask questions drive their agenda

  220. October 9, 2020 1:44 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  221. October 9, 2020 1:45 pm

    Prolly cos she’s ‘immune’ is my guess.

  222. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 9, 2020 1:48 pm

    Tom R – white supremacists at it again. Its all Trumps fault:

  223. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 1:49 pm

  224. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 1:58 pm

    I love the way they crap on about ‘danbots’ etc

    I know, pesky rwdbgs.

  225. October 9, 2020 2:19 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  226. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 2:28 pm

  227. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2020 2:34 pm

    That look would sum it all up tosy. They have abandoned any veneer of ‘journalism’, and it’s just outright nutbaggery now

  228. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 2:44 pm

    News Corp must not think standard “journalists” at Daniel Andrews pressers are competent enough & sent in reinforcements.

    And they’d be right. Intimidated junior reporters, most of them. Andrews didn’t give Credlin the ‘Rachel’ treatment because, for one thing, she’s got a nightly program where she can disect everything he said to her.

  229. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2020 3:02 pm

    Andrews didn’t give Credlin the ‘Rachel’ treatment

    according to newssnorts he did. Eve after they admit it was an ‘ambush’

    Although, in reality, he treated both the same. He calmly (how is beyond me) answered their questions

    Tony Abbott’s former chief of staff Peta Credlin has ambushed Victorian Premier

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/premier-grilled-on-hotel-quarantine-inquiry-phone-records/news-story/813d529b32e255170c84034bc99c7a77#.dcftj

  230. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 9, 2020 3:35 pm

    Andrews is rude when it suits him.
    Luke Darcy, former footballer, son of a former footballer, now radio host, said to Andrews – “the restrictions killed my father”
    Apparently his father committed suicide a few days earlier.
    Andrews didn’t express his deep sympathy for the loss. He went into his political speak/excuse.
    He probably thought he’d been ambushed. Who knows, but he typically came across as crass and lacking in sympathy

  231. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2020 3:46 pm

  232. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 3:46 pm

  233. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 3:47 pm

  234. October 9, 2020 5:10 pm

    At the rate things are going we’ll probably see fkn Nasking at tomorrow’s press conference… 🙄

  235. October 9, 2020 5:27 pm

    “I imagine there’ll be plenty of room under the bus by the time the enquiry’s through.”

    Dan should remove all of the Inspectors General, late on a Friday evening, that seems to work for governmental figures trying desperately to head off the threat of scrutiny.

  236. October 9, 2020 5:29 pm

    “You mean after murdering 800 people he is now actually trying to do his job ”

    215000+…just sayin’.

  237. October 9, 2020 5:34 pm

    “The reaction when anyone at your ‘press conference’ isn’t asking Dorothy Dixers anymore…”

    * insert picture of indignant POTUS

  238. October 9, 2020 5:35 pm

    I’m sure it’s worth taking a punt on Donald Dumbfuck winning at the moment, no doubt every time he opens his lying mouth the payout increases substantially.

  239. TB Queensland permalink
    October 9, 2020 5:36 pm

    At the rate things are going we’ll probably see fkn Nasking at tomorrow’s press conference…

    So, just where did his career in journalism (that you ruined, BTW, reb!) lead him … still cutting and pasting paragraphs into … mmm, comments 1000 words long! Followed by the 1962 Top 100 …

    Seems he could bear it no longer! (hope ya saw what I did there?) 😛

  240. TB Queensland permalink
    October 9, 2020 5:42 pm

    You couldn’t make this shit up!

    Good Lord! However, Trump does make a lot of shit up.

    Poncing about with a bible in front of a church is not “real” …

  241. TB Queensland permalink
    October 9, 2020 5:46 pm

    If Trump doesn’t want to attend the second debate … I would advise Biden to go it alone … the TV time has been booked etc … make the most of it … a political coup!

    Trump would be “excited” about that! LOL!

  242. October 9, 2020 6:04 pm

    I like to imagine him, on a rockingchair, fingerpainting screeds while he listens to the 1962 Top 100, on the outskirts of a dingy fringe of Crapperville.

  243. October 9, 2020 6:06 pm

    You couldn’t make this shit up!

    Watch the bending of former stances to accomodate the politically rubber machinations of Donald ‘pious’ Trump.

  244. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 9, 2020 6:11 pm

    “215000+…just sayin’”

    Most of those were in Democrat states run by governors even more incompetent than Running Dog Dan, governors who forced nursing homes to admit infected patients. It took Cuomo/de Blasio until mid may to sanitise the NY subway every day.

  245. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 6:24 pm

    Peta Credlin just now: “I will not go away. I’ll attend Daniel Andrews’s press conferenceS every day if I have to. I will get the truth.”

  246. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 6:26 pm

    #gotigers

    Yes, thank you. Getting excited. Might need a stiff drink to calm the nerves.😉

  247. October 9, 2020 6:42 pm

    “Most of those were in Democrat states run by governors ”

    Hmmmm.

    Let’s also examine current rates of infection and deaths in Red States which slavered to open too soon against all credible scientific and medical advice, shall we?

    A specious deflection, if ever there was.

    This thing has hardly run its course.

    Look at global numbers, despite Trump’s wanking his egomaniacal misinformation gland…I suppose the massive discrepancy GLOBALLY, is due to Democratic Governers?

    Hahaha. I don’t fall for that type of dubious deflection. I also think you’re too intelligent to assimilate such blatant crap. I am rather certain that if it was *anyone else you’d be critically appraising the absurdity of such a claim.

    May be unwise to make such assertions until the data is in…who knows when, probably post twelve months at least.

  248. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2020 6:59 pm

    Most of those were in Democrat states run by governors even more incompetent than Running Dog Dan

    I will not go away. I’ll attend Daniel Andrews’s press conferenceS every day if I have to. I will get the truth

    Or, she could do like normal people, and wait for the outcome of the inquiry?

  249. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2020 7:01 pm

    peta’s sounding a lot like porleen, you know, the brave soul who almost made it up the rock

    Both are bad smells that won’t go away.

  250. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 7:13 pm

    Or, she could do like normal people, and wait for the outcome of the inquiry?

    Yeah, nah. I think she’s got the right idea. Keep the bastards honest.

  251. Tom R permalink
    October 9, 2020 7:27 pm

    Keep the bastards honest.

    Yep, she’s the expert on honesty all right 😉

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/carbon-tax-just-brutal-politics-credlin

  252. TB Queensland permalink
    October 9, 2020 7:33 pm

    … on the outskirts of a dingy fringe of Crapperville … yer reckon the Rockshifter built Crapperville and invited the Bear to write a local rag? It’d be 200 pages long!

    #gotigers who? Ya lucky to have a team to follow … how my life has changed!

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    “I will not go away. I’ll attend Daniel Andrews’s press conferenceS every day if I have to. I will get the truth.”

    You do get the irony of that statement? Credlin and the truth? LOL!

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    This thing has hardly run its course.

    Indeed! The Spanish Flu officially “ended” in 1920 – two years after it began …

    But as mentioned in a previous comment I suffered from shingles a couple of years ago … derives from the chickenpox virus that lies dormant for decades …

    Pauline Hanson’s Uluru “climb” last year – which Nine refused to comment on – was fully paid for by Nine. Channel 9 … who woulda thunk …

    Pity Rupert didn’t follow his old man Keith …

  253. TB Queensland permalink
    October 9, 2020 7:35 pm

    An actual photo of the bricks that were shit …

    Thanks for the “actual” photo … enlightened I am …

  254. Tony permalink
    October 9, 2020 9:44 pm

  255. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 9, 2020 10:05 pm

    I’m sure we all miss Nasking clogging every thread with hits of the 60s

  256. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 10, 2020 11:10 am

    “Let’s also examine current rates of infection and deaths in Red States which slavered to open too soon against all credible scientific and medical advice, shall we?

    That is actually my point – variations among the states are interesting. It makes no sense to blanket-blame Trump when there are so many other variables at play.

    “Texas now has more Covid deaths than California does, even though California’s population is 33% bigger. “

    Also true: the Texas deaths per million is less than one third of that of both New York and New Jersey. Florida is less than half.

  257. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 10, 2020 11:17 am

    Actually, Sleazy Pelosi wants to establish the Commission to make it easier to swiftly replace Biden. It’s a classic bait and switch. She better watch out though – she is almost as senile as Biden.

  258. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 10, 2020 11:30 am

    “If Trump doesn’t want to attend the second debate …

    The Commission on Presidential Debates just cancelled the second debate after the moderator outed himself on twitter as a rabid anti-Trump and then claimed he’d been hacked. The dumb dog as used the same excuse before.

  259. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 10, 2020 11:44 am

    “with his overt debauching of Justice Dept, State Dept etc etc, may render a different result”

    Purest projection. Remember Holder said: “I’m still the President’s wing-man, so I’m there with my boy.” He was held in contempt of Congress. At least Barr shows up. Barr is now demonstrating how debauched the DoJ was under Obummer. You know like defrauding the FISA court to get a warrant to spy on a sitting president.

    And you surely remember how much the Clinton Foundation got hundreds of millions of dollars from entities having business with the State Department. Funnily enough the rivers of gold dried up as soon as she resigned. Funny that. And who can forget the meretricious mongrel telling bald-faced lives to the relatives of Americans killed in Benghazi while on the same day texting the truth to her equally vile spawn.

    I hope both these organisations are being fumigated to rid them of the pestilent leftist hacks infesting those organisations.

    Obama’s legacy is the complete corruption of the organs of government. Trump is America’s last best hope to drain the swamp.

  260. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 10, 2020 12:35 pm

    Most Victorians have grudgingly accepted the need for the restrictions. The patience is now wearing thin.
    People will get on with their lives, safely and sensibly, and the police won’t bother to fine ordinary people that aren’t risking public health.
    The loser will be Dan, because it will be clear that many/most have just stopped listening to him

  261. TB Queensland permalink
    October 10, 2020 3:40 pm

    A house party has ended in more than $21,000 worth of fines being issued after police found 20 people inside not wearing face masks or socially distancing.

    Officers stormed the party at the Bentleigh address in Melbourne’s southeastern suburbs about 1.10am on Saturday after receiving complaints of loud music.

    Fucking Dan Andrews partying …

  262. TB Queensland permalink
    October 10, 2020 3:41 pm

    I’m sure we all miss Nasking clogging every thread with hits of the 60s

    See … we occasionally agree …

  263. TB Queensland permalink
    October 10, 2020 3:43 pm

    The dumb dog as used the same excuse before.

    Hehehe … which one???? So many to choose from … please don’t turn Oz into US …

  264. October 10, 2020 4:08 pm

    But Donald (a different kind of riddled swamp) Trump endorses using foetal cells for his ‘cure’ which was a ‘miracle’ sent down from ‘heaven’.
    He’s enthusiastically ‘promising’ to make this miracle cure ‘free’ for every citizen.

    Go Trump!

    But what about the evil abortions which resulted in this ‘miracle heaven cure’?

    I’m so confused. He is on the record saying that stuff is bad! Could it be he’s a lot less religious than Joe Biden…and just milking his religious base when it suits him? I, for one, certainly find it hard to believe such a slur against the upside-down bible holder!
    He definitely isn’t a cynical charlatan who cares as much about abortion as he does Kim Un.

  265. October 10, 2020 4:11 pm

    “Purest projection.”

    Back atcha!

    Best not to scrutinise the subversions undertaken over the last four years.

  266. October 10, 2020 4:29 pm

    “Could it be he’s a lot less religious than Joe Biden…and just milking his religious base when it suits him?

    Trump Secretly Mocks His Christian Supporters

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-secretly-mocks-his-christian-supporters/616522/

  267. October 10, 2020 4:31 pm

    I’m not much of a fan of Laura Tingle, but this assessment of Morrison’s budget is spot on…

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-10/budget-2020-grand-ambitions-perplexing-political-choices/12748842

  268. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 10, 2020 5:13 pm

    Reb

    It is a long article. What are the spot on points?

  269. October 10, 2020 5:16 pm

    The crux of it is…anyone who ever voted for the alternatives to Jon Coward (shittest bowler EVER) clearly voted to kill innocent (but icky) people at sea.

    Sometimes you should read the Whole Of The Law, kneel.

  270. October 10, 2020 5:19 pm

    -Trump Secretly Mocks His christIAN Supporters-

    At least I don’t secretly mock them. I find it really challenging to not mock them more vociferously.

  271. October 10, 2020 5:27 pm

    I really couldn’t be fucked going back and providing evidence of the shameless contortions and prostrations of Barr before Lord Trump…they are there, they are easily accessible.

    Have at it.

    Pompeo, also, is a fucking fawning, malleable twat in a powerful role which he’s serially abused…to run interference for Dopey Don.

    The hilarity of it all is that, by their own carefully chosen, arselicking words, they’re still only one interview away from pissing off President Thinskin…then it’s off to the Big Ex-Whitehouse (best people) Emporium In The Sky, for them.

    The only one who ever had the nads to speak out afterwards has been Scaramucci.

  272. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 10, 2020 5:37 pm

    upside-down bible holder!

    Like everything else you’ve said this slur is a lie. Buying into lies is a problem for devotees of the fake news media.

  273. October 10, 2020 5:40 pm

    Sorry, The Mooch, had the nads, but wasn’t the only one.

    Some of the other ones had to go to jail first.

    Everyone except for Ivanka is on the fucking block, it seems, in Herr’s eyes. Possibly also Trophy Wife.

    Be Best!!!

  274. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 10, 2020 5:47 pm

    You seem to be getting all hopped-up over the abortion issue. My point is simple – I prefer Trump’s position to Biden’s. I don’t see the need to get into the weeds over the use of fetal tissue. The cells used in the vaccine are immortalised. Taking the vaccine is no way equivalent to putting a spike through the head of a baby about to be born.

  275. October 10, 2020 5:50 pm

    “Like everything else you’ve said”

    Everything?

    So the monoclonal cocktail WASN’T derived from foetal cells of yesteryear.

    I think your fallback to absolutes is just an attempt to avoid addressing the multitude of valid points I’ve made.

    And, obviously, IT WAS HIS BIBLE!!!…not just a prop.

    I can’t believe the things you appear to be comfortable to ignore, in order to endorse this Rich, Manipulative, Narcissistic, Proudly Ignorant, Inarticulate, Opportunist, Populist, Nepotist, Anti-rationalist.

    I assume, from what I’ve ever read of you (by your hand), that you’re none of those things (I have no idea about rich, but if you are, you don’t wank about it, which I see as admirable).

    I suppose clearing the streets, ala Totalitarian Societies, for an awkward photo op, posing with a bible, is fine? upside down or otherwise.

    I’m willing to concede the upside down thing, but I haven’t verified your link. I am trusting you. I can’t see why you’d bother telling me that if it wasn’t verifiable. I assume you recognise that I am intelligent enough to find out otherwise, if it be so.

  276. October 10, 2020 5:54 pm

    I am not a devotee of anything, except trying to be rational and within reason.

    Trump is the Snake Oil in extremis.

    I expect you know that, but look the other way because he prosecutes most of your ideological agendas?

    That’s Real Politik.

    I get it.

    But I won’t pretend he’s not a dopey, inarticulate, poorly pretending HOOD ORNAMENT.

    I’d be fucking ashamed to hitch my wagon.

    I could care little about Biden, apart from the stark comparison.

    Orwellian shit.

  277. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 10, 2020 5:58 pm

    “I really couldn’t be fucked going back and providing evidence of the shameless contortions and prostrations of Barr..”

    Me neither, butBarr has been brilliant. And when he disagrees with the president he says so. Even today Trump hammered Barr for not doing his bidding.

  278. October 10, 2020 5:58 pm

    “You seem to be getting all hopped-up over the abortion issue”

    No.

    I thought I made myself clear earlier…ABORT! ABORT! ABORT!…if it’s necessary and the correct medical decision, and both parents have some input. Fuck god…has nothing to do with it…neither does Set, neither does Jhebbal Sag.

    It is not an emotive issue for me at all.

    I have been purely trying to highlight the demonstrable hypocrisies in Trump’s words and stances for his apologists. That’s about it.

    The hairsplitting has begun, as I expected, though.

  279. October 10, 2020 6:00 pm

    “And when he disagrees with the president he says so”

    Indeed!

    Except when he shuts the fuck up, like the pomeranian he is.

  280. October 10, 2020 6:01 pm

    “Taking the vaccine is no way equivalent to putting a spike through the head of a baby about to be born.”

    But, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin???

    Seriously, fuck religion.

  281. October 10, 2020 6:02 pm

    I like these interactions with you.

    I am not angry.

    I don’t think you are.

    It’s just stimulating.

  282. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 10, 2020 6:04 pm

    Trump implements policies I like and attacks corrosive vested interests including the deep state. If he doesn’t clean out the DoJ, State, the IRS, the NSC and the rest then the US is truly fucked.

    OTOH, Creepy Joe, head of the Biden Crime family personifies the swamp. He grew rich off it. He won’t challenge it at all. He will probably get a bit of a surprise when the explain the bait and switch to him if he manages to steal the election, but he’s made his money out of the system.

  283. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 10, 2020 6:09 pm

    Me too.

    Here’s the problem – we all have irrational belief systems whether it religion, politics, sport or soap operas. People are essentially irrational. Religion is one expression of this. But there are a lot of other irrational causes people devote themselves to.

    Chesterton said: “When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”

  284. October 10, 2020 7:12 pm

    “When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”

    Haha.

    What a fucking cop out!

    I am me, completely me.

    I have NEVER just fallen for any old shit.

  285. October 10, 2020 7:15 pm

    I gotta say, I feel sorry for you guys.

    I couldn’t possibly suspend my disbelief enough to defend these logical, contextual contortions.

    It’s much easier just to recognise that it’s fucking apalling, and the alternative is like the shit sandwich, but with more democracy?

  286. October 10, 2020 7:18 pm

    ” the rest then the US is truly fucked.”

    Behold the guntoting fuckheads which aTrump defeat is likely to herald. Happy to be eventually be proven incorrect.

    Fomentor of inconsolable losing, in extremis.

    He’ll be out of office, but I fucking bet he squeals for decades. Hopefully he doesn’t last that long.

    ” He grew rich off it.”

    Fucken Hell Ronnie!

  287. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 10, 2020 7:41 pm

    A very clever and entertaining exchange!

  288. October 10, 2020 9:12 pm

    “This is the basis of human rights.

    There are two possible basic ethical rules.”

    I am more of a Bertrand Russell kinda bloke, I suppose. About most things.

  289. Tony permalink
    October 10, 2020 9:12 pm

    Thread:

  290. October 10, 2020 9:12 pm

    Also, fuck Collingwood with a stick!

  291. Tony permalink
    October 10, 2020 9:15 pm

  292. Tony permalink
    October 10, 2020 9:17 pm

  293. Tony permalink
    October 10, 2020 9:24 pm

    (He’s riffing on Daniel Andrews’s laughable boast that his virus modelling was done on a “supercomputer”.)

  294. Tony permalink
    October 10, 2020 9:28 pm

    Also, fuck Collingwood with a stick!

    And Eddie. He does not look happy. 🤣😂

  295. October 10, 2020 9:33 pm

    This is as enjoyable as watching the 2007 GF!

    Fuck Eddie with a creosote strainer post.

  296. Tony permalink
    October 10, 2020 11:00 pm

    Poor Bucks.

  297. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2020 9:08 am

    ‘I am more of a Bertrand Russell kinda bloke, I suppose. About most things.”

    Russell is essentially a utilitarian – greatest good for the greatest number. I don’t agree with that but I do like his idea of the ‘penumbra of doubt’ – “None of our beliefs are quite true; all have at least a penumbra of vagueness and error.” – although I don’t necessarily agree with his ideas about resolving such doubt – which essentially amount to elitist groupthink.

    I really like Rick Roderick. His lectures are both entertaining and challenging. He comes from a postmodernist perspective.

    I spent many years reading philosophy in a fruitless search for truth. The last place I thought to look was the postmodernists. But when I thought about I realised I had been asking the wrong question. I think the postmodernists at least ask the right question: if there is no truth what do we do now?

  298. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2020 9:11 am

    “I am me, completely me.

    I have NEVER just fallen for any old shit.”

    And that is your first delusion!

  299. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2020 9:12 am

    Graham made the comment in a televised “conversation” with his political rival, former South Carolina Democratic party chair Jaime Harrison, the first African American to serve in the role.
    Trump returns to public events with ‘law and order’ speech at White House
    Read more

    He made the remark in the context of political careers, and said Harrison would lose because he is a Democrat, not because he is Black.

    “Do I believe our cops are systemically racist? No. Do I believe South Carolina is a racist state? No. Let me tell you why. To young people out there, young people of color, young immigrants, this is a great state, but one thing I can say without any doubt, you can be an African American and go to the Senate but you just have to share our values.”

    He went on to say: “If you’re a young, African American or an immigrant, you can go anywhere in this state, you just need to be conservative, not liberal”.

    So you can’t go anywhere … because the cops can detect that you are liberal?

    These “people” are fucking sick!

  300. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2020 9:19 am

    “the greatest good for the greatest number”

    You prefer the alternative? You’re seeing and living the alternative every day.

    “philosophy in a fruitless search for truth”

    To prove your “truth”? … that’s why its “fruitless” …

    I bet you tried Theology too …

    Have you considered Ethics?

  301. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2020 9:32 am

    Behold the guntoting fuckheads which a Trump defeat is likely to herald. Happy to be eventually be proven incorrect.

    That is pure projection. Demoncrats never accepted the result of the last election and have spent the time since trying to depose Trump, destabilise his administration and mobilise the deep state against him.

    Even worse the fuckers are planning a coup should Trump win. Crooked has urged that Biden ‘should not concede under any circumstances’. Democrat schemers are planning for “a street fight, not a legal battle.”

    Antifa/BLM have been rioting and burning cities for six momnths. This is just practice for the escalation that will come when Trump wins again. Cuntess Kamala said:

    In a June 2020 interview, U.S. Democratic vice presidential candidate Kamala Harris said of the nationwide anti-police brutality protests: “Everyone beware. They’re not gonna stop before election day in November, and they’re not gonna stop after election day … They’re not gonna let up, and they should not.”

    Fact is the Dems know they are going to lose and, realising their last attempt failed, are so enraged they are planning a nastier and more violent coup attempt when Trump wins.

    The Democrats have not been this angry since the Republicans took their slaves away from them.

  302. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2020 9:48 am

    “These “people” are fucking sick!”

    The fucking sickos are the dumb leftists. Trump is telling people that accepting the victim states bestowed on them by leftists trying to atomise society into violently opposed groups. Trump is urging African Americans to leave the plantation the Democrats have prescribed for them, to reject the victim status imposed on them. They need to leave the inner urban hellscapes created for them by decades of Democrat rule. They need to get the fuck away from the teacher union controlled schools which produce hideously inadequate educational outcomes.

    Trump is saying their lives will be improved by an approach which strives to unify society based on national unity, optimism, equal opportunity, better schools for their kids, a better labour market leading to better job opportunities and a belief in god.

    The Democrats offer no school choice, more death and violence through reduced policing, less jobs, more poverty and a dystopian divisive hate-based view of the society they live in. They offer more riots, more looting and the destruction of everything decent.

  303. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2020 9:51 am

    “Have you considered Ethics?”

    That’s what I was talking about – two ethical rules and the difference between them. I don’t favour the rule which permits individuals to be sacrificed for somebody else’s notion of the common good. Apparently you do.

  304. October 11, 2020 10:26 am

    “The Democrats offer no school choice, more death and violence through reduced policing, less jobs, more poverty and a dystopian divisive hate-based view of the society they live in. They offer more riots, more looting and the destruction of everything decent”.

    You’re talking through a hole in your arse, but I guess you already knew that.

  305. Tony permalink
    October 11, 2020 10:29 am

  306. Tony permalink
    October 11, 2020 10:30 am

  307. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2020 12:43 pm

    “You’re talking through a hole in your arse, but I guess you already knew that.”

    Of course. It’s only logical. My remarks are directed at a toilet. 🙂

  308. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2020 12:50 pm

    This is how you know Biden is a leftist hack – he holds American voters in complete contempt:

  309. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2020 1:34 pm

  310. Tony permalink
    October 11, 2020 3:05 pm

  311. October 11, 2020 3:32 pm

    “Biden Insists He Won’t Reveal His Position On Hair-Sniffing Until After Election”

    Didn’t seem to bother you when Tony Abbott was doing it.

  312. October 11, 2020 4:34 pm

    “And that is your first delusion!”

    Ok, so my first mistake was probably choosing the word “NEVER” in that context. That aside…

    You haven’t reserved a seat in the cockpit of my mind, so I’d strongly suggest that you are making a wild claim by asserting (incorrectly) that…”When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything”…in relation to me. I see that semantics can be used in above quote…ie, you could claim that you didn’t mean me specifically, by ‘men become CAPABLE’.
    But I digress.
    Also, I suspect that if we’re playing semantics, mayhaps, “I am me, completely me”, will get a proper going over. I am well aware that I am the sum of my interactions and assimilated opinions…but I am ME.

    I sure as fuck wasn’t programmed to follow The Book of Fables.

    If men DO choose to believe in (their version of) god (always lower case, for posterity) They are still capable of believing all manner of nonsense (possibly more likely, in the name of the human telling them about their version of a god). I don’t/won’t do magical thinking.
    I am not an ideological limpet.

    Especially inattentive men, who claim to believe in a god, seem also very likely to believe that Donald Trump is somehow a religious bastion. If that don’t beat all!?
    Possibly they also believe that Him catching the virus was “a miracle, sent down from heaven”.
    If I was religious, I’d be fucking pissed that such a flog was thinking he could mislead me into thinking he shared my worldview so easily.

    Still, made up nonsense works in mysterious ways.

  313. October 11, 2020 4:38 pm

    ” he holds American voters in complete contempt”

    But repeatedly stating, over a protracted period, when questioned about Healthcare, that…My healthcare plan will be out in ‘a couple of weeks’…is definitely not ‘holding American voters in contempt’.

    Yay for a dogeatdog healthcare system! So great it’s amazing every country isn’t copying them. Working really well during a pandemic too.

  314. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2020 4:39 pm

    I don’t favour the rule which permits individuals to be sacrificed for somebody else’s notion of the common good. Apparently you do.

    I’m not an Elite apparently you are … you do’t think the Republicans are sacrificing EVERYBODY to stay in power?

    BTW you obviously think Republicans are left of politics and Democrats are right wing street rats … your arse about face as usual … (check you gravatar too)

  315. October 11, 2020 4:39 pm

    “My remarks are directed at a toilet.”

    Willing recptacle.

    May redivulge directed faecal matter in a reconstituted form, vertically.

  316. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2020 4:43 pm

    Reporter: “Don’t the voters deserve to know?”

    Weird comment/reply by Biden (read it this am)

  317. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2020 4:46 pm

    Tony permalink
    October 11, 2020 3:05 pm

    You do realise that the tweets you paste are very similar to Nasking’s cut and pasting efforts ?

    It could ruin your career …

  318. October 11, 2020 4:48 pm

    “Fact is the Dems know they are going to lose ”

    You may have an epiphany about this statement, in the coming weeks.

    Have you yet considered that that may be a gross miscalculation?

    Once again, I am unsure if you;re just taking the piss.

    One side seems to be going to a lot of trouble to suppress the vote and lay the groundwork for rejecting the result…particularly if a Democratic loss is such a certainty.
    All branches of Federal government are being subverted into the effort.

    Who knows how long a result will take to be discerned. When it is, this will become essential political voyeurism.

  319. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2020 4:51 pm

    Especially inattentive men, who claim to believe in a god, seem also very likely to believe that Donald Trump is somehow a religious bastion.

    Amen to that!

    (And don’t forget all those inattentive women – serving those male driven covens)

  320. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2020 4:53 pm

    Once again, I am unsure if you;re just taking the piss.

    May I join that club?

  321. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2020 5:01 pm

    “Didn’t seem to bother you when Tony Abbott was doing it.”

    I remember that now – looks like Tony has form. But he doesn’t seem to have a strong attraction for prepubescent girls the way Biden does. I hear Biden is petrified of Covid after learning it affects the sense of smell.

  322. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2020 5:07 pm

    “…in relation to me”

    It was more a general comment. FWIW I think you do make a serious attempt at being completely rational. But I would counsel you with some wise words from someone we were just discussing:

    “The opinions that are held with passion are always those for which no good ground exists; indeed the passion is the measure of the holders lack of rational conviction. Opinions in politics and religion are almost always held passionately.”

    ― Bertrand Russell, Sceptical Essays

  323. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2020 5:18 pm

    “Donald Trump is somehow a religious bastion”

    I’m sceptical that he his tthis. First time around there was a view about Trump – ‘He’s not our candidate. He’s our murder weapon.’ That is there was real hope that Trump, being an outsider, and not someone who made his wealth from politics like Obama, Biden and Crooked did, would actually take on the Washington swamp.

    I actually believe Trump is doing that. Crooked and the Clinton cabal were irredeemably corrupt. Wars were driven by the military industrial complex. Obama was content to say “Those jobs are never coming back” rather than do anything about it. He thought his low economic numbers represented “the new normal” as he put it.

    Overall I think Trump has made a serious attempt to drain the swamp bit I had no idea the swamp was so entrenched and has fought back so viciously.

  324. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2020 5:21 pm

    “Democrats are right wing street rats …”

    I think the people who have been burning cities for the last six months are Antifa/BLM aided and abetted by the Democrats like Kamal who says the shit show ought to continue. At this stage the Democrats have entirely vacated the centre and are fully on board with the Soros agenda. I think they genuinely believe that the revolutionary moment is at hand.

  325. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2020 5:30 pm

    “Have you yet considered that that may be a gross miscalculation?

    I might be wrong. But in the 2016 election the polls were useless as fuck. They were oversampling Democrats and trying to depress voter enthusiasm for Trump. Looks to me like more of the same this time. Only difference is Democrats are angrier and more likely to cheat.

    And ultimately I can’t believe that so many people would vote for a man in serious and obvious mental decline. This really is like Chauncey Gardner in Being There.

  326. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2020 5:45 pm

    Take a stroll down memory lane and look at this pathetic confederacy of dunces who got it so wrong in 2016 – I’ve cued my favourite but it is well worth watching from the start:

  327. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2020 5:48 pm

    Sorry cue didn’t work. My favourite is at 1:47 – Joy Reid is just so dumb (as well as being a lying homophobe).

  328. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2020 5:59 pm

    I think the people who have been burning cities for the last six months are Antifa/BLM aided and abetted by the Democrats …

    I thought you would have read, Mein Kampf, ’cause it comes right out of the pages (as you wade through the rightwing BS – no trouble for you I suppose?)

  329. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2020 6:00 pm

    And ultimately I can’t believe that so many people would vote for a man in serious and obvious mental decline.

    Which one are you talking about now?

  330. October 11, 2020 6:12 pm

    “It was more a general comment. FWIW I think you do make a serious attempt at being completely rational.”

    I consider that to be High Praise indeed! …and I am NOT taking the piss.

    (my all caps etc, lack of inflections, is due to forgetting how to do all of the laborious italics and shit…I haven’t blogged for twelve months+…and I’ve gotten lazy on it)…so ALL CAPS!

  331. October 11, 2020 6:17 pm

    Very difficult to disagree with Bertrand, particularly on sceptical musings.

    I don’t easily suspend my disbelief. I have no fucking idea how so many seem able to do so, so readily.

    My conclusion is that it is easy for them, because going one step further and inviting introspection will diminish their strongly held beliefs in nonsense. That must be awkward, I wouldn’t know.

  332. October 11, 2020 6:22 pm

    ““The opinions that are held with passion are always those for which no good ground exists; indeed the passion is the measure of the holders lack of rational conviction. Opinions in politics and religion are almost always held passionately.”

    Upon a reread, parts of this quote strike me as very generalistic, but I suppose a lot of philosophical statements get bogged down in verbose overexplanation, and lose their general audience, when they stray from generalist into explicit rationalisation.

    The last sentence is certainly a truism, in my eyes.

    Imagine what Bertrand Russell would make of Trump, for instance? It doesn’t take much imagining.

  333. October 11, 2020 6:31 pm

    “I actually believe Trump is doing that. Crooked and the Clinton cabal were irredeemably corrupt. Wars were driven by the military industrial complex. ”

    I have no idea if you used to cheer for various exceptionalist military interventions that the USA has keenly launched itself into (particularly considering the pivot from cheerleaders on FoxNews into Trumpism since).
    So I suppose I must give you the benefit of the doubt on that…because I am too lazy to wayback the shit out of you.

    Surely you aren’t InfoWars insane? That would REALLY make me rethink a few things.

  334. October 11, 2020 7:04 pm

    “I might be wrong. But in the 2016 election the polls were useless as fuck. They were oversampling Democrats and trying to depress voter enthusiasm for Trump. Looks to me like more of the same this time. Only difference is Democrats are angrier and more likely to cheat.”

    I think I have never seen a candidate doing more to energise and antagonise his opponents base to vote (in a non compulsorily voting system) for the last four years, than Donald Dumbfuck. No nuance at all.

    No doubt, wanks his base…HARD and exquisitely.

    No doubt…repels everyone on the other side, gets some backlash from the apathetic who wouldn’t vote for Hillary. Shits off the geuine moderates against his abrasive fucking claptrap and encourages a multitude of them to vote too.

    In summary…keeps the dipshits, loses the middle…and encourages the opposition to turn out. Not exactly a winning strategy.

    It ain’t 2016.

    No wonder he’s been doing his best to undermine confidence in the electoral system and make such claims as “the only way we lose is if they steal it” etc. Not the statements of a confident candidate, let alone the general magnanimity with which virtually every other potential candidate for POTUS ever has displayed.

    Arrogant fuckhead can’t countenance losing, will most likely eat some humble pie, but will never be humbvle. Quite likely to get a regular spot screeching on Fox et al, after his ego diminishing loss…untill allof the pending civil and federal lawsuits, being held at bay by legal POTUSisms currently, come home to roost.

    Hope he ends up alongside the fucking Tiger King. Fraudulent son of money and contrived manipulator of millions. Never did a day’s genuine work in his fucking life.

    I would love to bitchslap him, if he wasn’t surrounded by hired muscle.

  335. October 11, 2020 7:10 pm

    If and when the Supreme Court gets blatantly stacked 6/3, prior to the election…I still think the Judges will care more about seeming beholden to the law than to Trump.

    If they overtly rule in his favour over partisan groundworks currently being laid…then the age of starlight truly ends.

  336. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2020 7:14 pm

    TB’s comments above are actually taking the piss. He knows the violence in the streets is mostly leftists: Antifa/BLM – they are out every night torching buildings and rioting.

  337. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 11, 2020 7:19 pm

    On Iraq, I didn’t think we should go in, but once in there I didn’t want to come out and leave the place a mess. On Afghanistan they should have got in, killed off as much of al Qaeda as possible and got out. I know Obama wanted to but succumbed the pressure of hawks.

    On Trump I hope he wins and cleans up the swamp.

    No doubt…repels everyone on the other side

    Trump Derangement Syndrome is a very severe illness wherein those afflicted can’t help but show the world what nutters they are. its funny to watch.

  338. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2020 7:22 pm

    Scott Morrison has confirmed Australia will move “very cautiously” to reopen quarantine-free travel with a “handful” of countries, raising the prospect Europe and the United States will be excluded until 2022 unless a Covid vaccine is available.

    Morrison made the comments at a doorstop in Redbank, campaigning with Queensland’s Liberal National party leader, Deb Frecklington, and targeting the Labor premier Annastacia Palaszczuk over the state’s reluctance to remove its state border travel ban.

    Anyone else see the irony in these two paragraphs?

  339. October 11, 2020 7:29 pm

    “On Iraq, I didn’t think we should go in, but once in there I didn’t want to come out and leave the place a mess.”

    So, much like one of my favourite near-contemporary intellectuals, Christopher Hitchens, then?
    An anti-theist of note.

    I have rarely found words of his I couldn’t strongly agree with. His use of the language is something for me to strive for.

    His brother, on the other hand…

  340. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2020 7:32 pm

    TB’s comments above are actually taking the piss. *

    Are you talking to me … or being me? Defending your comments? Or taking the piss?

    Have you ever read Mein Kampf?

    Hitler may have been seen as the Anti-Christ by some … but take a good l-o-n-g look at Trump and his support storm troops! I know Trump can’t read a book but he has advisors as crap as he is …

    None so blind as they can’t see …

    * Wrong again ToM …

    Beware the prophets …

  341. October 11, 2020 7:32 pm

    Something else which amuses me…confecting an enemy ‘ANTIFA’…then acting like it’s an entity whilst ignoring that it’s nomenclature is something very difficult to reject…unless you’re a fascist.

    Seriously…ANTI…FASCIST…oh nooooes! Being against fascism is such a horrid objective.

  342. October 11, 2020 7:34 pm

    ” I know Obama wanted to but succumbed the pressure of hawks.”

    But…BENGHAZIIIIIIIIII…!!!

  343. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2020 7:37 pm

    Being against fascism is such a horrid objective.

    Chuckle …. I rest my case

  344. October 11, 2020 7:38 pm

    Hands up who thinks that Trump’s USA’s handling of the pandemic is ‘gold standard’, better than anyone else in the world, or even remotely credible?

    They (the royal ‘they’) are always ringing him, after all, asking ‘how did he do it so well…yadda yadda yadda’. People are saying. Best ever. Nobody’s ever seen it before. Noone could have known. I’d give myself an A+ if I were them.

  345. October 11, 2020 7:43 pm

    “Trump Derangement Syndrome is a very severe illness wherein those afflicted can’t help but show the world what nutters they are. its funny to watch.”

    And yet, he’s most likely inspired the many unenamoured by what they perceived to be an inevitable Clinton victory in 2016, to actually show up and vote this time.

    I contend.

    Kept dopey base. Lost some of fluctuating middle.

    Energised opposition, like never before.

    Real Politik. Stoopid Donald. Doesn’t listen to good advice. ‘Knows better’, knows little of consequence.

    His airbag is about to burst in his jowls, and I hope he goes through the fucking windscreen and gets grated by the blacktop.

  346. October 11, 2020 8:03 pm

    ” I hope he wins and cleans up the swamp.”

    I have some good news and some bad news…

    He won four years ago…

    He’s now made the swamp murkier and hobbled any sort of legitimate oversight of swamp creatures…remember, when he has gone (probably soon) the other side has now got VERY low bars to clear and scantly has to even rationalise their disdain for scrutiny or checks and balances. He’s deepened the swamp and muddied its waters whilst shitting off the bridge over the swamp as he’s collected his brown paper bags.

  347. Tony permalink
    October 12, 2020 8:34 am

  348. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2020 8:48 am

    He’s now made the swamp murkier and hobbled any sort of legitimate oversight of swamp creatures

    Oh yea, he drained the swamp sure enough, and filled it with effluent.

    the other side has now got VERY low bars to clear

    I hope this was tongue in cheek. The ‘other side’ are always held to different standards, same as here in Aus.

    Imagine if Labor gave away $billions in tax receipts. They would (quite rightly) be barraged with “how do you pay for it” questions.

    This mob have just clocked up over a $trillion debt, and all we have to show for it is a recession teetering on depression, and a gutted tax base, with no plan forward. Not to mention, the gutting of the only future proofing we had for retirement incomes

  349. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 8:50 am

    “So, much like one of my favourite near-contemporary intellectuals, Christopher Hitchens, then?”

    Hitchens is my favourite! I find ex-Trots are the sharpest and most interesting characters. Several times I’ve bought “Letters to a Young Contrarian” for young’uns in the office who are showing signs of intelligent life.

  350. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 8:53 am

    Imagine if Labor ….

    Imagine if Don Jr had accepted a $1.5bn investment from the Chinese government just as his dad decided to diminish the US naval presence in the South China Sea or if he had accept $3.5 million from a Putin linked oligarch?

  351. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2020 9:03 am

    Imagine if Don Jr

    Imagine …. all the peeeople ..

    https://www.afr.com/policy/fake-rolex-excuse-is-worse-than-accepting-bribes-20160216-gmv724

  352. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 9:47 am

    The editor of the Age clearly resides in Running Dog Dan’s rectum:

  353. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 9:55 am

    The Age, once a great newspaper, is now a protection racket for Running Dog Dan. It doesn’t care any more about it’s reputation. It is at stage five in the Leunig cartoon – obedience. This action is the Age’s brutta figura – a steaming pile of shit for all the world to see.

  354. Tony permalink
    October 12, 2020 10:02 am

    Another scapegoat scapegoated:

  355. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 10:20 am

    “Something else which amuses me…confecting an enemy ‘ANTIFA’…then acting like it’s an entity whilst ignoring that it’s nomenclature is something very difficult to reject…unless you’re a fascist.

    Seriously…ANTI…FASCIST…oh nooooes! Being against fascism is such a horrid objective.”

    Antifa is anti-facist in the same sense that the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is a democratic people’s republic. Antifa are the facists – Portland night 88: Riot declared as antifa sets fires around PPA building, 25 arrested.

    They are now moving into residential areas smashing windows and terrorising residents. It is pathetic to see victims pleading that they too support Antifa and still getting attacked. It would be poetic justice if the mob attacked those who deny Antifa’s existence or pretend they are not organised.

    It actually takes organisation to set the time and place and arrange the supplies for the evening – the industrial grade fireworks, the green lasers they use to try to blind the cops, the accelerant they use to set fire to buildings with people inside and the molotov cocktails, bricks and frozen water bottles used to try to maim people?

    If you don’t think it is serious or you don’t think it is happening then you are deluded, and that is the kindest construct. If the riots are not driven by leftists then why is that smug mongrel Kamala supporting bail funds and urging the riots to continue?

    So yeah – be fucking amused you can afford to laugh your not some cop earning $50k trying to support a family and being assaulted by these privileged white mongrels mongrels every night.

  356. Tony permalink
    October 12, 2020 10:20 am

  357. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 10:24 am

    “Another scapegoat”

    Obviously Running Dog Dan has been taking his cues from his idol: Xi’s Latest Purge Reflects Climate of Fear.

    There is a climate of fear now in Victoria as everything must be sacrificed on the alter of Dan’s stupendous ego!

  358. Tony permalink
    October 12, 2020 10:40 am

    This is farcical. Everyone knows who made that fateful decision. It begins with Daniel and ends in Andrews. It’s only a matter of time now. As Peter Beatty says, the truth always comes out.

  359. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 10:41 am

    Biden seems to be losing on the voter engagement front. There is a serious enthusiasm gap. I guess the only reason for confidence in Biden is the knowledge that the no-show supporters are likely down at campaign headquarters forging mail-in ballots.

  360. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2020 10:48 am

    Everyone knows who made that fateful decision.

    Yes, the police did. The inquiry worke that out.

    ” can’t believe that not one supporter showed up! ”

    She said that they kept the details … (she cuts out, then continues later)

    One can only assume the word missing was ‘quiet’ or ‘secret’. Which of course is why they can’t believe [facepalm]

  361. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 10:49 am

    “This is farcical. Everyone knows who made that fateful decision. It begins with Daniel and ends in Andrews.”

    The tangled web of deceit is unraveling! Go Peta and Rachel! Just ignore the misogynist Andrews sycophants piling on because you are doing actual journalism and holding the cunt to account! Whereas the Age is still firmly embedded in Andrews’ arsehole.

  362. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2020 10:51 am

    Wonder if this will get the same attention Diktator Dan gets? I mean, it’s only about corruption, not saving peoples lives while doing the feds job.

  363. TB Queensland permalink
    October 12, 2020 10:56 am

    Can’t wait for Sooty Morrison and Schoolyard gang to call for her resignation … waiting … waiting … waiting … waiting … wa ….t …. …. ….———————————————

  364. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 11:00 am

    “Wonder if this will get the same attention Diktator Dan gets? I mean, it’s only about corruption, not saving peoples lives while doing the feds job.”

    Well, Mr conspiracy theorist, its the lead story on the ABC news page. And front and centre on the Australian front page.

  365. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 11:00 am

    I hear she is going to resign and rightly so!

  366. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 11:09 am

    If Fatty O’Barrell resigned over a bottle of wine she surely must go!

    You would think she would be more discerning, perhaps inquired if Tim Mathieson was available. Even Mattress Keane would have been better. God I hope he doesn’t become premier.

  367. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 11:28 am

    The ABC is, as usual, balls deep in the Democrat narrative. They omit that one of these losers was recently pardoned by the Democrat governor of Delaware and another tweeted that Trump was a tyrant.

    And kudos for Bill Barr getting these mongrels early and charging them quickly.

  368. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2020 11:51 am

    They omit that one of these losers was recently pardoned

    Got link for that?

    another tweeted that Trump was a tyrant.

    got a link for that?

    And yet, off they went to do trumps bidding. Interesting that.

  369. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 11:59 am

    Tyrant

    Pardon

  370. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 12:00 pm

    “And yet, off they went to do trumps bidding.”

    Pure TDS. I feel sorry for you.

  371. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2020 12:25 pm

    Cheers splats

    So when you say ‘recently pardoned’, you mean like over a year ago. And yes, tweeting deranged things seems to be in keeping with most people trump triggers

    Are you twitter btw 😉

    Speaking of …

  372. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2020 1:06 pm

    I see peta’s making rachel look quite impressive

  373. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 12, 2020 1:13 pm

    Remember during lockdown #1 Victoria had-
    * the longest and most severe restrictions
    * the highest fines and far more of them
    * the most sanctimonious speeches by the most self important premier.
    That’s why the negligence of his government is even more intolerable

  374. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2020 1:20 pm

    * the best outcome because of these measures 😉

  375. TB Queensland permalink
    October 12, 2020 1:20 pm

    I see The Gold Standard State is in panic mode …

  376. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 1:28 pm

    I’m hoping that we get the resignations of two premiers today.

  377. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2020 1:36 pm

    Can ask the reasoning for both splats?

  378. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2020 1:49 pm

    Simp Service

  379. Tony permalink
    October 12, 2020 1:59 pm

  380. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 2:06 pm

    “Can ask the reasoning for both splats?”

    Running Dog Dan because he murdered hundreds of the people he should have been serving.

    Palaczszuk because TB supports the heartless old crone.

  381. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 2:07 pm

    Gladys gets a pass because, you know, the heart wants what the heart wants no matter how grotesque the specimen.

  382. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 2:25 pm

    Interesting context:

    “As you probably know, the FBI has arrested six men who allegedly plotted to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. At least three of the six have been shown to be BLM, Antifa, anti-Trump radicals.”

  383. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2020 2:59 pm

    Marshall needs to step down IMMEDIATELY!

    In South Australia, an investigation into the bungled handling of Covid-19 travel exemptions for family members of AFL players has found issues with SA Health’s processes including a lack of proper record keeping.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2020/oct/12/coronavirus-australia-live-legal-challenge-victoria-nsw-cluster-qld-queensland-border?page=with:block-5f83cffb8f088cf1f1a658de#block-5f83cffb8f088cf1f1a658de

    lol, a guy claims he ‘attended’ a BLM protest, therefore, he’s anti-trump ROFL

    A lot of people ‘attended’ them, most were there for the cause. many were there for the rioting. The spin is strong in these ones.

  384. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2020 3:17 pm

    BETTER ECONOMIC MANAGERS!

    China’s customs authorities have told several Chinese state-owned steelmakers and power plants to stop importing Australian coal, according to two industry newswire services

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/oct/12/china-orders-halt-to-imports-of-australian-coal

  385. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 3:25 pm

    “ROFL”

    Says the conspiracy nut who thinks Trump ordered the kidnapping attempt.

  386. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 3:32 pm

    “Marshall needs to step down IMMEDIATELY!”

    Excellent idea! Maybe we could get four premiers resigning in one day!

  387. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2020 3:38 pm

    Says the conspiracy nut who thinks Trump ordered the kidnapping attempt.

    “stand back and stand by”

    oops, just (another) poor choice in words 😉

  388. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 3:48 pm

    “stand back and stand by”

    I see. So that was an instruction to kidnap Governor Gretchen Witchmer? Just a tiny little bit of a stretch, don’t you think?

    But try to get Biden to condemn Antifa and he pretends they don’t even exist – he really doesn’t want to alienate his terrorist base!

  389. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2020 3:50 pm

    Just a tiny little bit of a stretch, don’t you think?

    He’s talking to nutcases. Nothing is a stretch

  390. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 4:11 pm

    “He’s talking to nutcases.”

    Yes – Joe Biden and Chrissy Wallace!

  391. Tony permalink
    October 12, 2020 4:23 pm

  392. October 12, 2020 5:13 pm

    “And your question is…??”

    Pet Credlin making an absolute Peta Credlin of herself… 😆 😆 😆

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  393. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 12, 2020 5:27 pm

    ” but take a good l-o-n-g look at Trump and his support storm troops!

    You mean these storm troops?

  394. October 12, 2020 5:51 pm

    Nothing to see here, move along….

    Besides, I’m sure that Marissa Payne and Scott Morrison with their many year of international diplomacy skills will be able to sort this all out…

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/oct/12/china-orders-halt-to-imports-of-australian-coal

  395. Tom R permalink
    October 12, 2020 6:38 pm

    Marissa Payne and Scott Morrison with their many year of international diplomacy skills

    We’re Farked!

    ” Well Scotty, here’s another nice mess you’ve gotten us into.”

  396. TB Queensland permalink
    October 12, 2020 7:28 pm

    I suppose the “good” that comes out of the coal charade is that we could tell ’em no coal … no iron ore … and slip back to the 1960’s* … and build some smelters … railway lines … and factories … and then get the rest of the “Western World” to boycott Chinese goods … they have no services of value …

    Or encourage/support India to become the “New China” in manufacturing … China wants to isolate Australia … we need to isolate China …

    NEVER let bullies win!

    * and music!

  397. TB Queensland permalink
    October 12, 2020 7:49 pm

    And lo and behold …

    WASHINGTON — The United States was the largest exporter of major arms from 2015-2019, delivering 76 percent more materiel than runner-up Russia, according to a new study by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute think tank.

    https://www.defensenews.com/2020/03/09/who-were-the-largest-major-arms-exporters-in-the-last-5-years/

    So, the West are the warmongers ….

  398. TB Queensland permalink
    October 12, 2020 7:51 pm

    But let’s not leave Gladys behind!

  399. TB Queensland permalink
    October 12, 2020 7:56 pm

    Running Dog Dan because he murdered hundreds of the people he should have been serving.

    Palaczszuk because TB supports the heartless old crone.

    1. That’s defamation of Dan (and me)

    2. Anna is far more competent than Deb Freckle

    3. Gladys is more incompetent than either of ’em

    4. Sooty Morisbum is and has been out of his fkn depth all of his “career”

  400. October 12, 2020 8:00 pm

    The bits and pieces that you’re ignoring are the very things which are going to dethrone Donald Dumbfuck, my friend.

  401. October 12, 2020 8:05 pm

    He even had his own, Mussolini, balcony moment (and cringeworthy ‘helicopter video’ upon his release from hospital) tother day.

    That crap isn’t winning over new fans.

    Benito, we can probably agree, was a fascist?

    Anti-fascism being conflated with leftism is rather quaint…and ridiculous.

  402. October 12, 2020 8:06 pm

    What I meant is, conflating leftism with a fascist, is tarded.

  403. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 13, 2020 8:38 am

    “Benito, we can probably agree, was a fascist?”

    Fascism is a term invented by leftists to describe other leftists they didn’t like.

    Both Hitler and Mussolini started as socialists and added ultranationalism, authoritarianism and empire building to their original socialism. Other socialists were jealous of the popular appeal of this lethal cocktail and labelled them fascists. There is nothing wrong with opposing them – Churchill was a great anti-fascist. Most decent people are.

    Unfortunately there are others like Antifa who pretend to be anti-fascist while at the same time utilising the tactics the fascists used to terrorise the public and take power.

    Just as pro-Nazi citizens downplayed the violence and intimidation of the Hitlers Brownshirts, some people are downplaying playing down Antifa violence. That would be you and you are no better than the fucking Nazis.

  404. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 9:00 am

    some people are downplaying playing down Antifa violence

    Some people are ignoring the reality that this began in violence. And just because small sections practice violence as a result, overall, the BLM is about non violence. Much of what you put up is highly cherry picked from the tens of thousands of vociferous, but non violent protesters, or right wing hacks causing dissent and playing the fool

    Hitler started as a Socialist?

  405. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 9:03 am

    The ideology of the budget is becoming clearer. Nothing has changed, except they used stimulus to further line their own pockets.

    It means I missed aspects such as despite the arts agencies receiving a “Covid payment” the portfolio budget statements show that the National Gallery is getting a 12% funding cut, the National Museum 9%, and the Australian National Audit Office which investigated the sports rorts a 12% cut.

    (The War Memorial meanwhile is getting an extra $16m and will increase staff by 12 – gotta love culture wars.)

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/commentisfree/2020/oct/11/the-federal-budget-reveals-an-ideology-that-is-set-to-kill-any-recovery-just-as-it-is-getting-started?CMP=share_btn_tw

    As long as we remember that NON WASTFUL spending is well worth it, spending like drunken sailors is just a waste of money (unless of course that money goes to yer mates)

    They say if you’re into small government and want voters to distrust government, get into power and prove how terrible government can be.

    Same with budget deficits.

    If you want voters to lose faith in the benefits of deficit spending, rack up $1 trillion in debt and spend it in wasteful ways.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-11/federal-budget-why-frydenberg-wont-be-pursuing-full-employment/12751566

  406. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 9:17 am

    The poor old #getDan crowd aren’t winning much. First, the nsw lib premier turns out to be as corrupt as, well, every other pollie in nsw, and now, the queensland wannabe premier looks like she’s about to lose before a vote is cast

    LNP Opposition Leader Deb Frecklington campaign in crisis after being referred by own party to election watchdog

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-13/lnp-crisis-as-deb-frecklington-referred-to-election-watchdog/12748400

    But yea, #getDan anyway lol

  407. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 13, 2020 9:44 am

    “Some people are ignoring the reality that this began in violence. “

    And there you are – conflating, twisting, spinning, shilling and evading.

    This is a simple issue – in many cities in the US you have Antifa thugs going out very night intent on harassing, maiming and killing police destroying property and intimidating other citizens. It has been going on for months. Sorso funded A-Gs and Mayors have encouraged this behaviour. And you can’t bring yourself to condemn these violent Antifa thugs. Instead you run interference for them.

  408. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 9:55 am

    Antifa thugs

    See them BURN!

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53504151

  409. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 9:59 am

    More sobering news on the budget that wasn’t (oh, and it’s free, or it was when I clicked on it)

    And — in what would be declared a “debacle” and a “bungle” if it had occurred following a Labor budget — Josh Frydenberg has had to rush to consult with the Business Council (BCA) because the asset depreciation provision threshold as drafted is too low for the large businesses and multinationals that make up the BCA’s membership. If only other community groups could have Treasury on tap to redraft budget measures for them.

    This is in a budget that the government had an extra six months to craft, giving it ample time to consult with business about what would deliver the most effective incentive to get much-needed investment flowing. When your budget strategy is a business-led recovery, there’s no excuse for not getting the business incentives right. If you’re not doing the vision thing, you should at least nail the practical stuff.

    https://www.crikey.com.au/2020/10/12/government-stuff-up-2020-budget/

  410. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 10:08 am

    Drunken Sailors are sitting back watching this lot spend like …. nothing else before

    The increase in gross debt since the pandemic hit Australia — $155.3 billion — represents 35 per cent of the $443.1 billion of debt borrowed by the Coalition since it came to office.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-13/fact-check-budget-debt-coronavirus-pandemic/12545628

  411. October 13, 2020 10:11 am

    Thanks for the link Tom. I’ve been reading the same thing from pretty much ‘everywhere,’ even from sometime Liberal apologists Laura Tingle, Katharine Murphy and Alan Kohler, the budget is nothing but one huge gamble, with the govt pinning its hopes on a business-led recovery out of recession.

    The only problem with funnelling huge wads of cash directly into the pockets of businesses is that they tend to keep it.

    And what sort of business owner, in their right mind, is going to employ additional staff (subsidised or not) if there aren’t any customers to serve.

    It’s the most unimaginative budget I’ve seen in decades. I hope it works, but I doubt it.

    It seems like the LNP has just pissed a trillion dollars up against the wall, but hey at least their business mates and donors will thank them.

  412. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 10:34 am

    The only problem with funnelling huge wads of cash directly into the pockets of businesses is that they tend to keep it.

    For Real? They wouldn’t, would they? 😯

    It seems like the LNP has just pissed a trillion dollars up against the wall

    I mean, I know htat htey’re petty and all, but I almost believe Gareth Hutchens is onto something with his ” if you’re into small government and want voters to distrust government, get into power and prove how terrible government can be.”

    It’s almost like they want to just burn it all down, just because they can.

    And the muppets in the media will cheer alongside them, and then complain why Labor aren’t stopping them doing it.

  413. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 13, 2020 10:55 am

    I think most people will save the tax cuts, and businesses aren’t likeky to look for reasons to employ. We’re in for a stagnant few years.
    That’s why the rax cuts should be cancelled and used to pay down public debt.

  414. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 13, 2020 10:56 am

    * tax

  415. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 11:26 am

    We’re in for a stagnant few years.

    After such a robust several years too

  416. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 13, 2020 11:32 am

    and used to pay down public debt.

    Will not happen. Since 1972 when we were debt free and Whitlam trashed the budget there is only one govt since then to reduce govt debt- Howard/Costello

  417. Tony permalink
    October 13, 2020 11:47 am

    I’m pretty sure these are not the matters on which he’s supposed to be infallible.

  418. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 13, 2020 11:50 am

    “See them BURN!”

    The flight of the Enola Gay was mostly peaceful.

  419. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 13, 2020 12:07 pm

    “Hitler started as a Socialist?”

    Hitler joined the the German Worker’s Party in 1919. Its platform included:

    “11. The abolition of incomes unearned by work.

    12. In view of the enormous sacrifices of life and property demanded of a nation by any war, personal enrichment from war must be regarded as a crime against the nation. We demand therefore the ruthless confiscation of all war profits.

    13. We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts).

    14. We demand profit-sharing in large industrial enterprises.

    15. We demand the extensive development of insurance for old age.

    16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, the immediate communalizing of big department stores, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that the utmost consideration shall be shown to all small traders in the placing of State and municipal orders.

    17. We demand a land reform suitable to our national requirements, the passing of a law for the expropriation of land for communal purposes without compensation; the abolition of ground rent, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

    That party morphed into the National Socialist German Workers’ Party and the aforementioned socialist policies diminished in importance and the Ultra-nationalist elements of the platform became more prominent.

  420. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 12:08 pm

    The flight of the Enola Gay was mostly peaceful.

    really, so mums are now carrying deadly cargo. Yep, you’ve lost the plot splats

    I’m pretty sure these are not the matters on which he’s supposed to be infallible.

    Who really cares what a guy who protects pedophiles in his spare time does

    “Would you like to see the Pope on the end of a rope do you think he’s a fool?”

  421. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 12:15 pm

    psst, splats

    “By itself, nationalization has nothing to do with socialism”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalization

    and

    “The German Workers’ Party (German: Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, DAP) was a short-lived far-right political party established in Weimar Germany after World War I”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Workers%27_Party

    To be fair, I believe in the circular theory of political leaning. The far of both ends are closer than most would want to believe.

    But they were Nationalists before they were socialists. Like most in those days, they used the name to bring in their version of ‘howards battlers’

  422. October 13, 2020 12:22 pm

    “After such a robust several years too”

    😆

  423. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 13, 2020 12:41 pm

    ” a short-lived far-right political party “

    OK, Tom R so it was a far right party …. just with socialist policies. Just shows how meaningless the expression “far right” is.

    The Antifa mums are just street theatre to advance the “mostly peaceful” narrative. Pretty sure some of them backed up for the riots later that night.

    Getting you to denounce the violent Antifa thugs is impossible. It is like trying to get a Muslim Brotherhood stooge to denounce Hamas – they won’t because they are one and thesame.

  424. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 13, 2020 12:56 pm

    Hey Tom R, I’ve figured out why you are so down with Antifa – it is a bastion of white privileged upper middle class wannabe revolutionaries. I’m sure you fit right in:

  425. Tony permalink
    October 13, 2020 1:00 pm

    Anyone who doubts Naziism was founded in socialism should note this was written in 1944 at the height of WWII so cannot be dismissed as historical revisionism.

    The Socialist Roots of Naziism, by Freidrich Hayek.

    https://en.liberpedia.org/The_Socialist_Roots_of_Naziism

  426. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 1:04 pm

    just with socialist policies. Just shows how meaningless the expression “far right” is.

    Don’t you mean ‘far left’?

    Or, I guess that anything that is ‘too’ far right, you can just call ‘left’ 😉

    it is a bastion of white privileged ..

    Yes, another complete picture there lol

  427. Walrus permalink
    October 13, 2020 1:11 pm

  428. October 13, 2020 1:12 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  429. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 1:13 pm

    liberpedia ROFL

    so, when facts don’t suit, create your own

    Remember, one of the first things these ‘socialists’ did was to kill Unionists

  430. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 1:29 pm

    …and to be honest, I’m not sure Murdoch has her back.

    I wish someone would tell the msm, their a little confused at the moment. Between the ‘poor widdle woman’ defense and ‘she said sorry’, it’s all kinda confusing

  431. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 1:36 pm

  432. Tony permalink
    October 13, 2020 1:53 pm

    liberpedia ROFL

    What’s your point? The cited essay is a chapter from The Road to Serfdom. I could have linked to a hundred different sources.

    Here’s an idea, try arguing against the content, not the URL.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_to_Serfdom

  433. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 13, 2020 1:59 pm

    “liberpedia ROFL

    so, when facts don’t suit, … resort to the old argumentum ad hominem! Congratulations, Tom R. You rarely disappoint.

  434. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 2:14 pm

    Here’s an idea, try arguing against the content, not the URL.

    Why do I want to argue about people who want to try and tell us that nazis are socialists or lefties ffs

    It’s old, and it’s tired

    Sure, there are elements of everything in everything else. picking and choosing ideals to massage into another is just dumb.

    And let’s not forget, the current mob are saying they are ‘socialists’, cos they spent a shitload of taxpayers money

    But shovelling taxpayers dollars into the hungry maws of big business is as far from socialism as you can get.

    Seems to me that some people just can’t stand the fact that nazis were a far right government, who used taxpayers dollars in an alarmingly similar manner to a more recent government.

  435. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 13, 2020 2:15 pm

    Oh Daddy!

  436. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 2:16 pm

    They really are hopeless

    Australian coal producers and the Federal Government were scrambling this morning to understand the latest political developments in China as rumours spread that Australian coal imports had been banned.

    https://inqld.com.au/business/2020/10/13/government-scrambles-amid-fears-that-china-has-banned-aussie-coal-imports/

  437. Tony permalink
    October 13, 2020 2:20 pm

    Why do I want to argue about people who want to try and tell us that nazis are socialists or lefties ffs

    No worries.

  438. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 2:37 pm

    No worries.

    That’s the spirit. Someone else plays that game. “I don’t need to know about that”

    Quite obviously, she does know about it, in order to go out of the way to tell him she doesn’t.

    And, if she didn’t know, considering her position, she was required to know,

    Of course, she’s just a poor widdle woman (yea, just like Gillard (NOT))

  439. Tony permalink
    October 13, 2020 3:04 pm

  440. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 13, 2020 3:07 pm

    Didn’t Gillard shag that fuckwit Whyalla Emmerson? The one that drank her contact lenses. Helped with his hindsight, I guess.

  441. Tony permalink
    October 13, 2020 3:15 pm

  442. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 3:46 pm

    Didn’t Gillard shag that fuckwit Whyalla Emmerson?

    And then lied about the knowledge of the illegal conduct he was …. hang on, am I getting them mixed up? I mean, the similarities are astounding. Except of course, one knew about illegal conduct and did nothing, while the other was hounded for years over conduct that had already been found not to be illegal.

    But yea, so close. I can understand why the media treats them the same, except of course for defending one even after she’s perjured herself, and hounding the other 20 years after investigations found there was no more questions to be asked.

  443. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2020 3:48 pm

    damn socialists

    Last week’s Budget lit the fuse on an economic time bomb.

    The Morrison Government has locked in a decade or more of massive budget deficits and a never-ending rise in government debt, even though it assumes that a vaccination for Covid-19 will be found next year and the economy will rebound solidly within the next few months.

    https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/disconcerting-australias-1-trillion-debt-explosion-exposed-200033933.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw&guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvL2NjSFF0YVplMEs_YW1wPTE&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAD0tI6J6FZLAvh6bHjhETYxGl7GqYJ-oaDSvJA7cLMh7ff0Y1vhTDI7e4CYz6oAmBtSHyRU-l5_6KpBYSZ7HtyWd0Sj-Z1RvfFRHAH7p1K-Y53Owj5J9AQULk2uM-czuWLvuK9tN4SWgr85zYsigiFdFnqnxMNfh-h5wdftIKPtz

  444. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 13, 2020 4:07 pm

    The comparison was more the poor taste in men. The comparison in crookedness would have been Gillard’s sleazy Bruce Wilson affair. But I don’t expect you to acknowledge that, being the partisan you are! Still, Gladys needs to go.

    Also, I thought this document was a good well-written piece of work on your part, making your experience available to others.

  445. Tony permalink
    October 13, 2020 4:10 pm

    Some perspective.

  446. October 13, 2020 4:14 pm

    Splatterlogic….

    Daniel Andrews must resign because hotel quarantine wasn’t managed successfully during global pandemic. Also, Donald Trump is immune and saves citizens with his personal glow.

  447. TB Queensland permalink
    October 13, 2020 8:00 pm

    Wonderful phrase … aren’t likeky to look … luv it ToM!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You sound so “surprised”, reb?

    Time —- out! WTF happened to being “retired”?

  448. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 13, 2020 8:30 pm

    Dan Andrews-
    * you can die from golf (1)
    * I take full responsibility(2)
    * blah blah blah (3)

    (1) or picnics, or teaching your daughter to drive
    (2) unless I can throw a scapegoat under the bus… Martin!! I need you to step in front of the #109, in 10 minutes
    (3) please insert self serving sanctimonious crap of your choice
    —————
    Thank you TB. I was just checking that you read my comments.

  449. October 13, 2020 9:44 pm

    It’s hard to take that interminable whinger Michael O’Brien seriously when he’s whining on TV with a serious regrowth problem.

    Someone needs to take him aside and let him know that this is what’s happens when you start dying your hair Michael, once the grey grows back you need to touch it up again with more dye otherwise you just start looking like an ageing real estate agent or tragic old queen with a two-tone hair-do.

  450. TB Queensland permalink
    October 13, 2020 11:35 pm

    Gladys, Gladys, Gladys … your lying, naieve, complicit, or incompetent …

    Any one means you should resign …

  451. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 14, 2020 8:15 am

    Quality question from the absolutely dumbest person in the Senate:

  452. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 14, 2020 8:36 am

    The Age, in censoring Leunig, showed they are merely part of the ALP PR department. That is in stark contrast to Sky’s Andrew Clennell going after Gladys. The Age is strictly fake news whereas Sky is showing promising signs of actual journalism.

  453. Tom R permalink
    October 14, 2020 9:12 am

    fix fer slynews
    “Had I known any wrongdoing was done at any stage I would have not have hesitated to” .. tell him I don’t ‘need to know’ ….

    The Age, in censoring Leunig

    OR

    “Don’t write SHIT!”

  454. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 14, 2020 9:24 am

    Oh, Tom R. A quick sqizz at the headlines of the major news outlets shows that Gladys is getting overwhelmingly negative press. And rightly so! She’s not a protected species the way Australia’s worst serial killer, Dan Andrews, is.

  455. Tom R permalink
    October 14, 2020 9:49 am

    shows that Gladys is getting overwhelmingly negative press

    Of course she is, she’s done overwhelmingly negative things.

    It’s the political analysis you need to watch, and the way they are circling the wagons on her. They circled the wagons on Gillard to, but in that case, it was to attack, on this case, it is to defend.

  456. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 14, 2020 9:57 am

    Gladys has to go – its the same as if Christine Kneely slept with Eddie Obeid!

    Come to think of it how did Eddie’s Girl get to be premier? Probably a threesome with Tripodi!

  457. Tom R permalink
    October 14, 2020 10:05 am

    Come to think of it how did Eddie’s Girl get to be premier?

    OR

    She’s just good at her job. But yea, cast sexist slurs, we’ll call it ‘Splatterlogic’

  458. Tom R permalink
    October 14, 2020 10:14 am

    She seems to forget that Labor, specifically Kristina Keneally, testified against the corruption, and exposed it, instead of saying wtte ‘I don’t need to know”

  459. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 14, 2020 10:50 am

    Yesterday Victoria had 12 cases. NSW had 13.
    Yesterday NSW announced that they would allow gatherings of 500.
    Victoria remains in lockdown for 22 hours a day
    Thanks Dan
    ————
    And thank you TB for deliberately using “your” to allow me to balance your correction!

  460. Tony permalink
    October 14, 2020 11:27 am

    Julia Gillard was hounded for years about her personal relationship, dragged through the mud. Nothing was off limits to the media.

    Was she though? Without googling it I can’t even tell you who she was supposed to have been in a relationship with, except for some dumb hairdresser.

  461. Tony permalink
    October 14, 2020 11:45 am

    Surely the polls are wrong again.

  462. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 14, 2020 12:11 pm

    ToSy you forgot the nice little reno Bruce Wilson arranged for Juliar that she didn’t even know about! Paid for from a union slush fund that she also didn’t know about.

  463. Tom R permalink
    October 14, 2020 1:15 pm

    Surely the polls are wrong again.

    One will be correct. By then, it will be decided anyway.

    Thoughts and Prayers

    It does appear that the media is starting to realize that they are backing the wrong horse with gladys.

    Or, their just worried about rudd dobbing on them (and they should know he’s not one to be trusted)

  464. October 19, 2020 12:34 am

    So…I just finished A/S…and haven’t had a chance to read back through…

    *what a great time to (STILL) be alive…

  465. October 19, 2020 12:41 am

    “I’m pretty sure these are not the matters on which he’s supposed to be infallible.”

    He’s either god’s Person on Earth, or he isn’t? I’m detecting some skepticism…

    Could it be…he’s just another churchman in a dress whom inordinate legions of the beholden proscribe to?

    I am happy to see some critical analysis of such ‘icons’, but by doing so, fantastical grounds are ceded.

    Which begs the question…what the fuck does ‘infallible’ mean to various people?

  466. October 19, 2020 12:46 am

    ANyone, now a matter of a few weeks out, willing to confidently predict a Trump VICTORY!!! (without resorting to lawsuits, spurious victimhood or deleterious nonsense)?

    I know, I’d find it particularly difficult to hitch my wagon to the dumbfounded dipshit unchief.

    Looking forward to his histrionics and the pending litigations.

    That’s all assuming he vacates the throne in a dignified manner (no certainty).

    USA! USA! USA!

  467. Tom R permalink
    October 19, 2020 8:39 am

    just another churchman in a dress

  468. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 19, 2020 9:12 am

    TBoss, Trump wins unless the Democrats cheat massively. Even though the press and the Big Tech oligarchs are against him Trump will still cut through.

    At the moment new emails are making it clearer how the Biden crime family made so much money. I think these revelations and those about his pervert crackhead son will see him out of the race by election day.

  469. Tom R permalink
    October 19, 2020 9:15 am

    how the Biden crime family made so much money

    apparently there’s this thing called ‘the art of the deal’ ……….

  470. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 19, 2020 9:15 am

    Here is Crackhead explaining how he got his multi-million dollar job with Burisma. Its called trading on your name.

  471. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 19, 2020 9:18 am

    There is a distinct enthusiasm gap between the candidates. Most Biden events don’t have more than a handful of supporters. Certainly nothing like this, in California of all places:

  472. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 19, 2020 9:21 am

    ” ‘the art of the deal’ ……….”. You mean like this:

    Things a getting interesting now. Turns out Don Jr got a multi-million dollar payment from a Russian oligarch!

    Naturally, his dad has dismissed the report as a smear and unfortunately the media are downplaying it.

  473. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 19, 2020 9:28 am

    “That’s all assuming he vacates the throne in a dignified manner (no certainty).”

    It was Crooked who could not accept the result of the last presidential election. And Obama, instead of arranging for an orderly transition and conspired with disgraced FBI director Comey to secretively spy on a sitting president, which Comey did by using fraudulently obtained warrants.

    In any event that issue is purely hypothetical.

  474. Tom R permalink
    October 19, 2020 9:50 am

    Its called trading on your name.

    The hypocrisy here is quite astounding, even for you splats

    I mean, he basically installed his family as the defacto government ffs

  475. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 19, 2020 10:06 am

    Traitor Biden:

  476. Tom R permalink
    October 19, 2020 10:08 am

    trump had all his paraphernalia made in China ffs

  477. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 19, 2020 10:16 am

    Oh good. That proves Biden isn’t corrupt.

  478. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 19, 2020 10:21 am

    Also:

    However, the official Trump gear sold on the campaign website is made in America by American workers.”

  479. October 19, 2020 6:32 pm

    Trump going for the gay vote… NTTAWWT..

  480. TB Queensland permalink
    October 19, 2020 7:26 pm

    Oh good. That proves Biden isn’t corrupt.

    Aren’t you trying to do that? (Not convincingly BTW)

    You could ask those who live there to help …

  481. Tony permalink
    October 19, 2020 7:40 pm

    🤣😂🤣
    “If you’re over 15 years old and you say you’ve never heard the name Schapelle Corby, um, bullshit.” ~ Schapelle, SAS Australia.

  482. Tony permalink
    October 19, 2020 8:04 pm

    This show is awesome. And hilarious. Hilariously awesome.

    #SASAustralia

  483. Tony permalink
    October 20, 2020 8:34 am

  484. Tom R permalink
    October 20, 2020 9:43 am

    “Hows energy coming?”

    NTTAWWT

  485. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 20, 2020 12:25 pm

    Here is what we know:
    1. In February 2014 Robert Hunter Biden was discharged from the Naval Reserve for cocaine abuse.

    2. In April 2014 RHB joined the board of Burisma, a company with annual revenue of $400m.

    3. Joe Biden was point man for the Obama administration in relation to Ukraine.

    4. RHB had no relevant skills such as speaking Ukrainian, oil and gas industry experience or being on the board of a major company.

    5. RHB was paid $83,000 per month which is more than directors of ExxonMobil are paid. Some reports say $50k.

    6. RHB said that he probably wouldn’t have got the job if his last name wasn’t Biden.

    7. The State department had corruption concerns about Burisma. They raised these with an official in Biden’s office who said that in reply that they didn’t have the ‘bandwith’ to deal with the issue.

    8. Burisma executive Vadym Pozharskiy gave RHB a list of deliverables which included arranging high-level meetings and procuring good publicity for Burisma and the corrupt oligarch which controls it – Mykola ‘Nikolay’ Zlochevsky.

    9. The deliverables list mentioned the “ultimate purpose to close down for any case/pursuits against Nikolay. Coincidentally, Joe Biden threatened to withhold USD1bn in loan guarantees from Ukraine unless the prosecutor was fired which he was.
    10. Joe Biden says he knew RHB was on the Burisma board but didn’t know anything else about what RHB was doing for Burisma.

    11. RHB arranged an off-the-books meeting for Pozharskiy with Joe Biden at the White House.

    12. After a carefully worded non-denial denial “based on a review of Joe Biden’s schedules, the campaign then noted that there was a possibility of an ‘informal interaction’ with Pozharskiy.

    13. Biden has not denied the authenticity of the emails released so far and his surrogate noted that nobody’s saying the emails are inauthentic’.

    14. Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe says that, in his position of overseeing the other intelligence agencies, he was in a position to know if there was any evidence of Russian involvement in the release of these emails and there wasn’t.

    15. So there we have it – a high-paying job based on his father’s name; deliverables delivered in the form of access to the White House and getting a troublesome prosecutor fired. Each step backed by evidence.

    16. The reaction of the Fake News Media is to run interference for Biden, picking up in the Russian interference talking point even though there is no evidence to support it. Yet they were obsessed with the discredited Russia collusion hoax for three years. That is why NYT, WaPo and the rest have ceased to be news organisations and are now leftist political operatives.

    17. And the fake news media has shown no interest in discovering why a Putin-connected oligarch paid $3.5 million to Crackhead Hunter.

  486. TB Queensland permalink
    October 20, 2020 12:32 pm

    Nasking!

  487. Tom R permalink
    October 20, 2020 1:54 pm

    lol TB

  488. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 20, 2020 3:25 pm

    “It’s an exact replay of 2016. Who falls for this crap?!”

    Let’s see – who fell for the crap in 2016 – Clinton made shit up and got the FBI to investigate non-existent Russian collusion.

    Now Biden is making shit up and trying to get the FBI to investigate Russian disinformation for which there is no evidence!

    There is plenty of evidence that Creepy and Crackhead are crooks. They know the emails are from Hunter’s laptop and won’t even deny that.

    But whatever you do, stick to your conspiracy theory so you don’t have to look at the Biden Crime Family corruption.

  489. Tom R permalink
    October 20, 2020 3:35 pm

    Clinton made shit up

    yea, cos the ruskies didn’t do anything, did they 😉

    There is plenty of evidence that Creepy and Crackhead are crooks.

    Then why fabricate such a limp story as “dropped me laptops off, and forgot all abouts them”

    stick to your conspiracy theory

    lolz

  490. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 20, 2020 3:53 pm

    “a limp story as “dropped me laptops off, and forgot all abouts them””

    You’re too funny Tom R.

    Why did Crackhead’s lawyer, George Miseres, attempt to retrieve his client’s laptop from the store?

    And Why has Crackhead not denied it was his?

    And why did the FBI subpoena the laptop? Did the Russians make them do that too?

    And then there’s the thing about zero evidence the Russians have anything to do with this?

  491. Tom R permalink
    October 20, 2020 3:54 pm

    another conspiracy theory

  492. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 20, 2020 3:58 pm

    “yea, cos the ruskies didn’t do anything, did they “

    Well there you go – that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the pee pee tapes are real, Michael Cohen met Russian agents in Prague to exchange information; Trump exchanged information with Russian agents using the AlfaBank server, Carter page was a Russian agent who was given billions of dollars of shares in Gazprom etc.

  493. Walrus permalink
    October 20, 2020 5:11 pm

    OK so let’s do the maths.

    12.26 hectares = 122,600 sqm divided by a standard 600 sqm block = 204 housing blocks and divided into $30m = $147,058 per housing block 38kms from the City.

    How is that expensive in Sydney ?

  494. TB Queensland permalink
    October 20, 2020 5:48 pm

    Who falls for this crap?!

    See above …

    Meanwhile the Soviet hackers piss themselves …

  495. TB Queensland permalink
    October 20, 2020 5:58 pm

    Wally, Wally, Wally … its not about maths per se … its about SHONKY valuation at the expense of taxpayers by the SloMo government … AGAIN!

  496. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 20, 2020 6:13 pm

    “Meanwhile the Soviet hackers piss themselves …”

    Absolutely they do – despite Zero evidence of Russian hacking Hunter’s laptop the Fake News Media is in full meltdown using them as bogey men so they won’t have to talk about the Biden Crime Family.

  497. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 20, 2020 6:32 pm

  498. Tony permalink
    October 20, 2020 7:36 pm

    Here is what we know:

    Great work Slatterbottom. You should post that on Twitter with the appropriate hashtags. The audience here is too small to do it justice. (Sorry Reb, but it’s true.)

  499. Tony permalink
    October 20, 2020 7:40 pm

    In other News: Victoria had one case today, however the state is rooted. The operation was a success but the patient died.

  500. TB Queensland permalink
    October 20, 2020 8:06 pm

    Prime minister says police should investigate all issues associated with government’s Leppington Triangle land purchase

    NOMO and the Cheats … all words no action …

  501. TB Queensland permalink
    October 20, 2020 8:12 pm

    There are fears a container ship currently off Queensland’s Sunshine Coast could be carrying a strain of COVID-19 that hasn’t been seen before in Australia.

    The Sofrana Surville has been stopped from docking at Brisbane and its 19 crew members will be tested by Queensland Health officials after an engineer who previously worked on the vessel tested positive in New Zealand.

    New Zealand authorities alerted their Australian counterparts to the virus risk on the ship after the man returned a positive test on Saturday.

    He was believed to have caught the virus while working on the Sofrana Surville off Auckland on October 12 and 13.

    The strain of COVID-19 that infected the engineer has not been seen in Australia or New Zealand, Kiwi authorities said, according to 7NEWS.

    Herd immunity will fix it … yeah …

    Why are people so … so … blind?

  502. TB Queensland permalink
    October 20, 2020 8:34 pm

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2020/10/20/morrison-governments-go-slow-on-electric-vehicle-strategy/

    SLOGO … words are all I have to give government! Marketing Manager at its worst!

  503. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 8:16 am

    Thanks ToSy.

  504. Tom R permalink
    October 21, 2020 8:25 am

    OK so let’s do the maths. Math

    Someone already did. A professional. They came up with the figure of $3 million.

    Interesting that the project was given $30 million, and the land cost came out at ….. $30 million.

    They don’t even try to hide their corruption anymore

    The operation was a success but the patient died.
    Unemployment rate, September 2020, Seasonally adjusted
    NSW 7.2%
    Vic 6.7%

    https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/labour/employment-and-unemployment/labour-force-australia/latest-release

    And they did worlds best at stopping the spread of the virus. Which means, they saved not only themselves, but the rest of the cuntry too

    You should post that on Twitter with the appropriate hashtags.

    Make sure it’s a picture text thingy, it’s how all qs are doing it these days 😉

  505. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 9:00 am

  506. Tom R permalink
    October 21, 2020 9:09 am

    by wiggiwagga lol

  507. TB Queensland permalink
    October 21, 2020 9:53 am

    And god’s popping down tomorrow …

  508. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 10:07 am

    The real conspiracy theory was that Crooked and Obama gaslight everyone into believing that there was collusion between Trump and Russian operatives.

    That the FBI defrauded the FISA court using Crooked’s pack of lies is a fact and the questions around how and why this happened are legitimate questions.

  509. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 10:27 am

    So now the Russian interference talking point has been destroyed what’s the next talking point?

  510. Tom R permalink
    October 21, 2020 10:35 am

    So now the Russian interference talking point has been destroyed

    It didn’t look smart enough for Russians. I mean, a shady guy ‘left’ his laptop behind at a store to get fixed. A shadier guy then illegally made a copy of the contents. He then passed that to an even shadier guy, who decided to release it on the eve of an election.

    Seems legit. Yea, the Russians aren’t that inept, or obvious.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

  511. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 10:41 am

    FBI and DOJ do not believe Hunter Biden laptop part of Russian disinformation campaign

    So now you know: all the news organisations, starting with the NYT, that ran with the Russian interference narrative are Fake News. They chose to run with a Democrat talking point with no evidence to support it rather than to follow the evidence demonstrating the laptop was Hunters and the emails were authentic.

    This is a case study in all that is rotten and wrong with the MSM – they have betrayed journalism for narrative engineering. And it is always a rubbish leftist narrative.

  512. Tom R permalink
    October 21, 2020 10:48 am

    hard to believe where they would have got the idea that the Russians were behind it, hey splats 😉

  513. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 10:56 am

    Not hard all, Tom R. It’s the same place that they get all their marching orders – DNC talking points. Its lock step lies all the way. The video compilations are hilarious.

  514. Tom R permalink
    October 21, 2020 11:09 am

    yea splats, it’s all a conspiracy, to hide the bigger conspiracy, or tunnels filled with democrat pedophiles.

    Idiocracy came on a lot earlier than they expected.

  515. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 11:16 am

    Tom R, the real conspiracy theory was the Russian Collusion Hoax and now the Russian Disinformation Hoax.

    OTOH, FBI fraud of the FISA court is not a conspiracy theory.

  516. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 11:18 am

    It will be interesting to see if there are any photos of Crackhead with underage girls. Like father, like son.

  517. Tom R permalink
    October 21, 2020 11:23 am

    Like father, like son.

    you’re not instilling confidence in the trunp offspring then 😉

  518. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 11:37 am

  519. October 21, 2020 12:37 pm

    “anonymous patriot” 🙄

  520. October 21, 2020 12:42 pm

    Meanwhile…

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  521. Tom R permalink
    October 21, 2020 12:54 pm

    Rudy Giuliani just confirmed

    Fuck me some people just WANT to believe, don’t they

  522. October 21, 2020 1:15 pm

    Apparently Donald’s 60 Minutes interview was not a runaway success.

  523. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 1:25 pm

    “anonymous patriot”

    Not like you to miss my subtle nudges – it’s the twitter handle: @anonpatriotq

  524. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 1:31 pm

    I suspect that the 60 minutes interview will be successful in furthering Trump’s narrative that Fake News is biased against him. If the interviewer is anywhere near as feral as that mental midget Savannah Guthrie Trump will gain votes from the interview.

    OTOH, if the interview shows Trump to be an unhinged blowhard it won’t affect many voters – they already know that.

  525. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 1:37 pm

    “Fuck me some people just WANT to believe, don’t they”

    So, Giuliani has Hunter’s laptop, so he might know what he’s talking about. And he has passed it to the Delaware police.

    I wouldn’t say this allegation is certain as yet, but if Giuliani has lied to the police he is in big trouble.

    Giuliani had a stellar career as a US Attorney, destroying the big five mafia families and jailing the principals. He is now doing a vital service for his country exposing the Biden Crime Family.

    Of course if the Fake News Media were actually journalists doing their job, they would have dug all this stuff up themselves and saved Rudy the trouble.

  526. October 21, 2020 1:50 pm

    ‘subtle nudges’

    Is that code for ‘unhinged rants.’

  527. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 1:58 pm

    Unhinged? Moi? Surely you’ve mistaken me with Tom R

  528. Tom R permalink
    October 21, 2020 2:30 pm

    So, Giuliani claims he has Hunter’s laptop

    Just wondering where splats is posting from? 😉

  529. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 2:37 pm

    “So, Giuliani claims he has Hunter’s laptop”

    Copy of laptop’s hard drive. Biden & co are not denying the authenticity of the emails. People in the email chains are confirming them and also that “The Big Guy” is Creepy Joe.

  530. Tom R permalink
    October 21, 2020 2:40 pm

    Biden & co are not denying the authenticity of the emails. People in the email chains are confirming them and also that “The Big Guy” is Creepy Joe.

    So, the 2020 version of “did you rape that girl?”

    Tell you what, confirm it’s his, and that it hasn’t been doctored.

    You can’t, cos some creep copied whatever it was onto an external drive, and from there on, it means jack, because he could have done anything with the data after that.

  531. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 2:41 pm

    Tom R, Trump is going to win.

    Also leftist groups are planning to take to the battle to streets when Trump wins. There will be mass rioting courtesy of George Soros bring a colour revolution tactics to the US.

    As usual when they plan this bullshit the start projecting.

  532. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 2:47 pm

    The FBI have confirmed that they are in possession of Hunter Biden’s laptop.

    I have a solid basis for believing the email chains that have been confirmed by other parties on the thread. Creepy Joe is The Big Guy.

    Whereas you have not one jot of evidence that this is Russian disinformation.

    Let’s see how this plays out.

    Do you think Crackhead
    shared the underage pics with is Dad?

  533. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 2:50 pm

    Crackhead:

  534. Tom R permalink
    October 21, 2020 2:53 pm

    Also leftist groups are planning to take to the battle to streets when Trump wins.

    Ah, I see. So, arming for defense then (which of course, is the best offense?)

    The FBI have confirmed that they are in possession of Hunter Biden’s laptop.

    Hang on, I thought it was a copy the guy had made? Which is it?

  535. TB Queensland permalink
    October 21, 2020 3:10 pm

    Oh dear …

    Donald Trump has a bank account in China, according to The New York Times.

    The account is controlled by Trump International Hotels Management LLC – which tax records show paid $US188,561 ($266,876) in taxes in China while pursuing licensing deals there from 2013 to 2015, the newspaper reports – making China one of only three foreign nations alongside the UK and Ireland where Mr Trump maintains a bank account.Donald Trump has a bank account in China, according to The New York Times.

  536. TB Queensland permalink
    October 21, 2020 3:13 pm

    Trump is playing this election using the same plot as the 2016 election … eventually viewers get bored and move on …

  537. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 3:19 pm

    Tom R the FBI seized the laptop. Giuliani has a copy of the hard drives.

    The FBI have confirmed the laptop belongs to Crackhead.

  538. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 3:22 pm

    “Oh dear …”

    You look desperate TB. And you hair is on fire. Please tell me what the problem is?

  539. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 3:27 pm

  540. Tom R permalink
    October 21, 2020 3:28 pm

    the FBI seized the laptop.

    So, the FBI have seized his laptop, and they confirm that it’s his. Right 😉

  541. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 3:38 pm

    Facebook working with Chicoms to censor posts.

  542. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2020 3:40 pm

    Right.

  543. TB Queensland permalink
    October 21, 2020 3:57 pm

    You look desperate TB. And you hair is on fire. Please tell me what the problem is?

    Desperate? You read desperate … just pointing out that – to pay tax in China – Trump must have/is doing business IN China … who woulda thunk?

    Unlike you I don’t “live” in the USA (thank Odin) …

  544. Tony permalink
    October 21, 2020 5:08 pm

    Yeah, the ruskies dunnit:

  545. Tony permalink
    October 21, 2020 6:28 pm

    Piers is such a wanker, but he makes a fair point:

  546. Tony permalink
    October 21, 2020 7:01 pm

    Who hasn’t been caught pleasuring thenself when the zoom camera was supposed to be on mute, amirite?

  547. October 22, 2020 8:13 am

    Soz splats, looks like your new new-found hero is not the messiah after all…

    “The reputation of Rudy Giuliani could be set for a further blow with the release of highly embarrassing footage in Sacha Baron Cohen’s follow-up to Borat.”

    “In the film, released on Friday, the former New York mayor and current personal attorney to Donald Trump is seen reaching into his trousers and apparently touching his genitals while reclining on a bed in the presence of the actor playing Borat’s daughter, who is posing as a TV journalist.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/21/rudy-giuliani-faces-questions-after-compromising-scene-in-new-borat-film

  548. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 22, 2020 8:52 am

    Should be fun to watch the Rudy tape.

    At least it won’t be as sickening as the naked 14 year old on Hunter’s laptop.

  549. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 22, 2020 8:54 am

    I get it TB, “Oh dear …” is your way of saying nothingburger!

  550. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 22, 2020 9:07 am

    Rudy now says he was merely tucking in his shirt. 😉

  551. TB Queensland permalink
    October 22, 2020 9:55 am

    What will those LNP senators do now? And the wannabe LNP state member in Toowoomba … joy to the world?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/21/pope-francis-backs-same-sex-civil-unions

  552. TB Queensland permalink
    October 22, 2020 10:00 am

    I get it TB, “Oh dear …” is your way of saying nothingburger!

    I think not … unless I read you incorrectly … let me spell it out … if Adolf Trump paid tax in China (and none in the USA) it’s got more to worry about than Hunter Biden … and a fake news story going back further than 2014 …

    Its not a nothingburger (if I interpret the slang correctly) it’s a boombangerburger in Adolf’s face …

  553. TB Queensland permalink
    October 22, 2020 10:08 am

    Herr Giuliani

  554. TB Queensland permalink
    October 22, 2020 10:09 am

    NSW coronavirus cases increase by seven, with six in hotels, while Gladys Berejiklian urges mask uptake

    Karma can be pretty cruel sometimes!

  555. October 22, 2020 10:19 am

    Rectum, maybe you could get #Istandwithrudy trending on twitter…

    Let us know how you go…

  556. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 22, 2020 10:31 am

    i>”Its not a nothingburger”

    How so?

    A Trump entity considered doing business in China and had a China bank account to fund expenses there. In the end no business was established there.

    What is wrong with that exactly?

  557. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 22, 2020 10:36 am

    #Istandwithrudy

    I’m looking forward to seeing the footage.

    Many’s the time I’ve been falsely accused of nefarious activity while merely tucking in my shirt.

    And I’m sure Jeffrey Toobin was just preparing to tuck his shirt in once he got his wayward wang under control.

  558. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 22, 2020 11:15 am

    Biden’s been hiding in his basement all week scared shitless about Crackhead’s crimes. So they send out Obama to address the few voters who actually care:

  559. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 22, 2020 11:42 am

    You’ve really made it when your name becomes a verb:

    WHO’S TOOBIN WHO?

  560. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 22, 2020 2:17 pm

  561. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 23, 2020 5:00 pm

    Actual conversation between Melania and her stylist-

    Stylist- would you like me to bleach your as**hole?
    Melania- I’ve tried that but he always turns orange

  562. TB Queensland permalink
    October 23, 2020 8:02 pm

    A Trump entity considered doing business in China and had a China bank account to fund expenses there. In the end no business was established there.

    What is wrong with that exactly?

    That they paid $200+K TAX in China for – nothing … ? FFS!

    No wonder you’re FR …

  563. TB Queensland permalink
    October 23, 2020 8:05 pm

    Biden’s been hiding in his basement all week scared shitless about Crackhead’s crimes. So they send out Obama to address the few voters who actually care:

    You really are Trump’s Disciple Henchmen Handlanger …

  564. TB Queensland permalink
    October 23, 2020 8:07 pm

    Actual conversation …. Actual conversation ???????

  565. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 24, 2020 11:02 am

    That they paid $200+K TAX in China for – nothing … ? FFS!”

    How about you try to make a coherent argument instead of just muttering, or at least in addition to muttering.

    So, the Biden Crime Family took tens of millions from CCP entities. Creepy Joe swore blind he never knew anything about Crackhead’s business dealings. The CEO of the company in which Hunter was holding 10% for Joe has sworn an affidavit and provided corroborating correspondence backing up his claims including that Joe was deeply involved in the business and in fact had met with him for an hour to discuss that business.

    Yet you want to talk about that as much as Dementia Joe does – which is not at all.

    And you have some beef with a Trump entity, while it explored business opportunities in China, having had a bank account there to cover the expenses of an office, including paying local taxes?

    Seriously? Have some dignity man! You are forfeiting all credibility.

    The Bidens have been been bought off by the Chinese Communist Party. They are totally compromised.

    With Trump, the money flowed the other way. How would merely paying his taxes give the CCP leverage over Trump?

  566. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 24, 2020 11:03 am

  567. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 24, 2020 11:05 am

  568. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 24, 2020 11:06 am

  569. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 24, 2020 11:13 am

    There is plenty of information on the Biden Crime Family but not in the Fake News Media which is doing everything it can to protect its candidate. Maybe that is why you are so uninformed, TB.

  570. Tom R permalink
    October 24, 2020 11:49 am

    The replies to those tweets have yor answers splattersmear. You are so far down the wabbit hole, probably too far to bother digging back up by now

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-23/joe-biden-hunter-laptop-allegations-us-election-2020/12801162

  571. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 24, 2020 11:52 am

    This is where we are now – all Biden has left is to flat out lie. This montage is utterly hilarious:

  572. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 24, 2020 11:54 am

    Yes Tom R – in both cases they are exactly the type of answers you give – “Look over there!”

  573. October 24, 2020 12:46 pm

    Hey arsehole, your friends are looking for new members (presuming you’re not fully signed up already)…

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/asio-briefing-warns-far-right-is-exploiting-coronavirus/12344472

  574. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 24, 2020 1:40 pm

    Hi reb

    Neo Nazis are on a par with the Antifa mongrels. I’m more for BLM.*

    * Biden’s Laptop Matters.

  575. Tom R permalink
    October 24, 2020 6:32 pm

    Biden’s Laptop Matters.

    You mean the laptop the rudy dude was looking for down the front of his pants?

  576. Tom R permalink
    October 24, 2020 6:33 pm

    Neo Nazis are on a par with the Antifa mongrels

    Yes, because of the long list of planned, mass murders people associated with the Antifa brand have carried out [facepalm]

  577. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 25, 2020 9:33 am

    I didn’t see this coming:

  578. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 25, 2020 11:51 am

  579. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 25, 2020 2:14 pm

    Finally Biden tells the truth:

  580. TB Queensland permalink
    October 25, 2020 4:23 pm

    Another LNP Government “joke” … why are these pricks not only incompetent but ultra offensive too?

    The High Court has confirmed three further allegations of sexual harassment have been raised against former justice Dyson Heydon.

    An independent investigation commissioned by the High Court earlier this year found six former associates were sexually harassed by the former judge.

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2020/10/23/dyson-heydon-sexual-harassment-complaints/

  581. TB Queensland permalink
    October 25, 2020 4:30 pm

    Hey arsehole, your friends are looking for new members (presuming you’re not fully signed up already)…

    It really has become Nasking Country around here …

    There’s an election in Queensland in six days … Anna Palaszczuk will romp home … the LNP are really desperate (and as mean spirited and childish as usual) … as per their ads …

    (Must be the Catlick upbringing)

    https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/politics/queensland-lnp-slammed-for-juvenile-campaign-video/news-story/72884e11f3ab0b0ed3e0ef8c57009785

  582. TB Queensland permalink
    October 25, 2020 4:48 pm

    Maybe that is why you are so uninformed, TB.

    Or I don’t read obvious shit, splatterbum … disinformed is downright dangerous …

    If (your god forbid) I voted in the USA, I’ve seen enough Trump and heard enough Trump and researched enough Trump and watched the impact of decisions by Trump … to know I would never vote for the ignorant, mean spirited, sexist, racist, lying, cheating, uneducated, bigoted, religious zealot, militarily dangerous, globally ignorant, historically morononic, geographically disoriented, backstabbing, misogynistic, bullying, arsehole … even if Trump paid me …

    Trump may have tiny hands and fingers but they are big enough to push that Big Red Button! He’s pushed more than his allotted little red buttons already!

    Biden wouldn’t be my choice either … he’s got one thing going for him … he’s not Trump!

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