The bizarre life and times of Christian Porter
The former Attorney General Christian Porter fronted the media earlier this week to claim victory over his defamation case against the ABC despite requesting a mediation hearing and dropping his legal action.
It was a bizarre performance where he claimed that the “ABC was no longer going to defend the case” which is kind of stating the obvious if you’re abandoning your legal action.
No amount of spin or bluster can disguise the fact that the withdrawal of his defamation claim against the ABC is a victory for the public broadcaster, and an embarrassing backdown for Christian Porter.
Despite originally seeking damages and an apology, it is understood Porter later approached the ABC for a relatively modest financial settlement without an apology or a retraction of the article, which the ABC rejected.
To this day, the ABC stands by the article and its journalism.
Porter didn’t have to withdraw his suit. He did so in exchange for an unremarkable statement of the obvious from the ABC, that “some readers of the article” in question may have incorrectly interpreted it as an accusation of guilt.
Hardly a startling revelation or capitulation.
In summary:
- Christian Porter withdraws case.
- ABC pays zero damages to Porter.
- Article about allegations against Porter remains online.
- No apology from the ABC to Porter.
- No backing down by the ABC.
- ABC says it stands by the article.
In case any non-legal types are confused, “settling” a case that you started, and getting no money is more accurately called losing.
theguttertrash.com 
On the upside, it has unleashed a bevvy of Monty Python memes.
Oh, and another re-entry in Bizarro world for the conservative ‘commentators’ (If they ever left)
Successful litigation was always going to be difficult when the ABC was careful not to name.Porter
Successful litigation was always going to be difficult when the perp is a dead set creep
In case any non-legal types are confused, “settling” a case that you started, and getting no money is more accurately called losing.
And NEVER, EVER being a Prime Minister …
Why do people fucking lie?
If you fuck up – admit it … take the heat … move on …
Eventually all the lies (tell one – have to keep ’em coming) get so entangled the TRUTH is inevitable …
And pollies are the worst* … can’t tell the truth – can’t make decisions – cheat at the drop of an opportunity – steal at every deal …
No wonder many of us are cynics
*Not far behind are the leaders of many religions …
Did I mention that the Liberal National Coalition in particularly are, scheming, vitriolic, controlling, frightened, aggressive, low esteemed and attempt to constantly manipulate the truth …
In support of my previous comment …
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/03/abc-board-defends-ita-buttrose-against-disrespectful-spray-by-liberal-powerbroker
In support of TB’s previous comment …
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2_fpN8VEAEu4d9?format=jpg&name=small
So the lockdown was extended because of the “high velocity transmission” argument
Those cases are now known to be false positive
The continuing lockdown is therefore unnecessary
Do end it James
#Jameshasstuffedit
2 of Those several cases are now known to be false positive
The continuing lockdown is therefore still required
The government should have locked down the northern suburbs and imposed restrictions elsewhere.
That is exactly what NSW has done successfully.
But the Victorian government doesn’t want to be accused of being selective. So everyone gets locked down
Dumb and dumber?
In a decision published on Thursday, the AEC assistant commissioner, Joanne Reid, found the new party’s name was sufficiently distinct and not likely to cause confusion or imply a connection with the Liberal Party of Australia.
The name …… New Liberals … 🙄
Congrats to the ABC and the malignant mongrel Milligan for a well executed hit.
Porter’s grotesque stupidity has delivered to him the derision he deserves.
OTOH it is almost impossible for him to be convicted given that it is a he said/she said situation and she can no longer give evidence.
TB:
True – and I would add journalists to the list for good measure.
the malignant mongrel Milligan for a well executed hit.
Or, as it’s commonly referred to, reporting accurately. As can be seen by the statement on the story, which remains up, and unchanged.
The government should have locked down the northern suburbs and imposed restrictions elsewhere.
For the slow and …. rumour-toid?
I don’t watch TV much anymore and never watch the ABC but most Conservative commentators think the ABC is a taxpayer funded branch of the ALP.. Ita Buttrose just came out and said the role of the ABC is to fight right-wing extremists like those who stormed Capital Hill in the USA.
But why not fight left wing extremists also?? Wrong to use taxpayers money to fight just one type of extremists
And having our ABC did not stop the storming of Parliament House in 1996 by lefties
Ita Buttrose just came out and said the role of the ABC is to fight right-wing extremists like those who stormed Capital Hill in the USA.
Are you sure that’s what was said, or is htat how a right wing extremist interpetted it as what she said?
BLOODY VICTORIANS!
oh, wait..?
TomR
I guess she didn’t say the role of the ABC is to fight right-wingers but went close to saying it.
https://www.portnews.com.au/story/7239670/abc-chair-links-funding-to-extremism-cases/
Countries without well-funded public broadcasters often have instances of right-wing extremism, the ABC chair says as she braces for the federal budget.
Ita Buttrose says the role of a public broadcaster is essential to democracy.
“In those countries that do not have a securely funded public broadcaster democracy is not as robust as in Australia,” she told the National Press Club in Canberra on Wednesday.
“Countries that do not have a well-funded public broadcaster often have examples of right-wing extremism, as we saw in America where the mob stormed the Capitol.
“What country in the world puts the least money into public broadcasting? The United States of America.”
I guess she didn’t say the role of the ABC is to fight right-wingers but went close to saying it.
I came close to calling you a fucking idiot, and perhaps should have.
Saying Ita said the role of the ABC is to stop/fight ring-wingers is a reasonable paraphrase.
She is certainly saying without the ABC there would be a rise in right wing extremism.
“But why not fight left wing extremists also??”
Don’t be silly. The ABC are left wing extremists.
There is not one conservative presenter of any of their news shows.
The ABC should be abolished.
The swamp looks after its own:
The ABC should be abolished.
Says the right wing extremist ????
The ABC reflects every point on the political spectrum… other than the conservative one
Get rid of them
SKY and all those rightwing radio stations and Mordoch news outlets reflect only the conservative one …
Get rid of them!
other than the conservative one
……….
SKY and all those rightwing radio stations and Mordoch news outlets
The abc is infected with murdochs drivel. Think Andrew Probyn and David Speers, conservative lackeys if there ever was one. The shows are unwatchable, and, while they always have a far right panelist, they rarely have a far left one
But yea, just keep screaming how they are all ‘lefties’ lol
Did you know that the ABC gets almost a $billion from taxpayers every year! There’s no choice, we are compelled to pay to a service that doesn’t reflect the views of the community
We can’t boycott its products/supporters/advertisers, can’t decline to pay for it.
Get rid of it
… we are compelled to pay to a service that doesn’t reflect the views of the community
I think you meant
we are compelled to pay to a service that doesn’t reflect the LNP views of the community
And actually the ABC does reflect the views of the community … and FYI the ABC does not only provide a news service … it provided some very informative and docos and produces some high quality TV series … and many local information services …
Get yer head out of
yer arsethe sand and speak to people living in the regional centres of Australia and not just Victoria Young Liberals …Your head remains
up your arseemptyThere is no ability of people that dislike the ABC to avoid it.
You’re blind to that because it reflects your orientation
Did you know that the Rupert Murdoch receives $millions from taxpayers as a gift from Scott Morrison?
There’s no choice, we are compelled to pay to a service that doesn’t reflect the views of the community
We can’t boycott its products/supporters/advertisers, can’t decline to pay for it.
Get rid of it
There is no ability of people that dislike the ABC to avoid it.
On your remote control … look for Channel it allows you to change them … if all else fails hit the red button …
I’m blind? LOL!
I think you meant … There is no ability FOR people that dislike the ABC to avoid it.
Why Melbourne is in almost constant lockdown …
https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/heavy-police-presence-for-antivax-protests-at-vaccination-hubs/news-story/1a3d55fdc2c64595559c59931a4ace76
1. It’s easy to find advertisers that support News Ltd and avoid them.
2. Are you referring to the contract to provide an overseas news service?
3. Why should I have to avoid a service that I help fund?
Why should I have to avoid a service that I help fund?
Some friendly advice.
You don’t have to avoid it … and some people may refer to Sun Tzu:
Yeah, right TB
Although I think the ABC can continue as a subscription service.
Like a big community radio!
See how much the left would support it if it required their donations
“See how much the left would support it if it required their donations”
You mean, like The Guardian…?
In which case, quite well it seems, considerably moreso than the loss making masthead The Australian that’s for sure… 😆
NEXT……!!!
Eh! Eh! Eh! Eh! Eh! Eh! Eh! Eh! Eh! Eh! You are awful! Luv it!
Then there is clearly no need for the almost $billion in public funding!
Thank you, I was hoping we’d agree
LOL! We never “agree” ToM … maybe we should go back to TV licences … or just big business actually paying taxes and paying workers … FFS! Agree?
(Getting rid of a quasi-independent national institution, source of information in a notionally-informed notionally-liberal notional-democracy, and locus of institutional memory, does seem conservative; I guess that’s why chronically-underfunding-unto-literal-trashing of the national archives, also, is unabashedly conservative; then there’s all the conservativities of the ad hoc in-house exculpatory reports and invaluable outsourced consultancies that nobody can ever see; oh, and the perpetual not-be-hearing of/from other elected members of a(n un)duly-constituted parliament, when not very busy not answering questions, on notice or otherwwise: so much inoffensive good form in the many conservative behaviours on display, and noone at the ABC to extol it; unlike, umm, ninefax’s sychophants and newscrop’s daywalkers and seven-west’s alleged-warcriminal boosters; sad.)
Special Bulletin!
https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/politics/victorian-premier-dan-andrews-gets-ready-to-return-to-work-from-back-injury/news-story/3eb7b9771bad3254cdcecfafa50131f0
No celebrating outside your home, ToM!
Then there is clearly no need for the almost $billion in public funding!
Thank you, I was hoping we’d agree
If so … this must also cease …
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/feb/02/australian-government-funding-for-private-schools-still-growing-faster-than-for-public
GO SA!
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2021/06/06/south-australia-climate-change/
Then there is clearly no need for the almost $billion in public funding!
In yomms black and white world, that might even make sense.
until South Australia moves to net 100 per cent renewables.”
Despite out government, not because of it.
This stunt is hilarious. It seems to have triggered a lot of lefties and shown AOC as the stupid hypocritical git she is:
National Douchebag misses the point
Sooner or later i may have to take the vaccine. This picture sums up my thoughts
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bbc021cef23382b8ae95788ad2a37d0da1d5de8b58bb442d6b0b6a36aa5ef933.jpg?w=600&h=348
This stunt is hilarious.
Don’t live in the US don’t want to don’t care ….
This picture sums up my thoughts
As a rat or a mouse or a plague or all three?
TB
I think they are trailing the vaccine on us humans. These things take years to develop not 12 months. And then they would be tested extensively on various animals in carefully controlled trials.
I think we are the guinea pigs. Who knows in 5 years time all those who took the vaccine may have problems
So, Mediscare wasn’t.
We knew back then it wasn’t though, didn’t we 😉
I note that our resident Amercanophile hasn’t mentioned this?
https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/was-donald-trump-wearing-his-pants-on-backwards-during-comeback-speech/news-story/7536098f2b9ba464de79d5a18fbd3166
Where does he keep his wallet?
For those still living in Idiotsville.
You’ve had your fun, pissed yourself laughing and now it is all over your face!
I just clicked you link, splatterbum, (wondering just who lived in Idiotsville?)
But, but its news.com.au … it must be true! Rupert’s Rags do not print lies! Ask, Kneel!
FAKE News splats. But, as TB pointed out, considering the source 😉
FYI, this is from the grubmint that are attacking China for being “authoritarian”?
“FAKE News splats. But, as TB pointed out, considering the source”
No Tom R, News got it right.
TB got it wrong because he was too busy pissing himself laughing to read to the end of the article which concluded thus:
TB got it wrong because he was too busy pissing himself laughing
Tru dat!
However, a closer look at the image shows that it is actually photo-shopped …
But the question begs – why put the article up in the first place … to promote conspiracy?
It is still very poor journalism … I can never believe news.com.au again! 😋
We all do that sometimes TB. 🙂
No faith in Rupert’s Rags … so disappointed I’m going back to the ABC …😎
YoM’s been in touch with the Shadow Treasurer…. 😆
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Biden cancels US pipeline (so his supporter Buffett can make fortune out of transporting oil by rail) but greenlights Russian pipeline. But Trump is a Russian puppet:
There is no more chance of the public knowing about the circumstances of Stairman Dan’s fall than there is of finding out who actually made the decision that made itself and in what circumstances. Maybe there should be an inquiry to give us another Coate of BS varnish.
We all do that sometimes TB.
WE! ?? 😉
YoM’s been in touch with the Shadow Treasurer…
lols, and drinking from the same coolaide
This is gonna have a life of its own I think, the Danspiracy options 🙂
Any chance this mongrel will get cancelled?
Don’t think so.
So, Mediscare wasn’t.
Speaking of Medicare …
Don’t think so.
So get out of America! Yer not a tree …
So … ToM, is actually an old, has been,
bottleblonde? 😲https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/cover-up-victorian-shadow-treasurer-demands-answers-from-premier-over-fall/news-story/f40dc88a96da56e1a446f6ad046f9b39
It seems reasonable to ask those questions. I think he said he was in his way to work. So they’re work related.
If there’s nothing to the entire rumour, answer the questions and put it to bed
I might suggest they also ask why Dan hasn’t claimed WorkCover.
I think he was on his way to work, do there is a claim, and the cost of salary and medical treatment would therefore not fall to the taxpayer
It seems reasonable to ask those questions.
but not these
If there’s nothing to the entire rumour, answer the questions and put it to bed
yor fucken laughable yomm
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/five-questions-julia-gillard-should-answer-20140910-10eqra.html
How many lib pollies are ‘off, sick’, and immediately after getting busted for being asshats. But their privacy is respected. They cannot even return that simple decency
“How many lib pollies are ‘off, sick’, and immediately after getting busted for being asshats.”
YoM only expects ‘explanations’ from Labor MPs.
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Questions about if morrison is part of qanon are irrelevnt. He is. But in Aus, we call it LNP
Liberal MP Louise Staley says ‘if there is no cover up’, the premier should answer questions about the circumstances of his fall
………
Guardian Australia has asked O’Brien’s office for comment.
Staley has reportedly turned down a request from Sky News.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/07/victorian-opposition-accused-of-spreading-conspiracies-about-dan-andrews-injury
“So get out of America! Yer not a tree …”
But you keep taking me back there, Tree B. June 7, 2021 10:21 am
So Dan’s due back at work NOW!
Has he claimed WorkCover to save taxpayers all the money?
Has he claimed WorkCover to save taxpayers all the money?
Did you ask that of the multiple lnp toadies hidden away on sick leave?
Difference is, theirs occurred just as they were busted being assholes
I’m pretty sure we will see another SickHunt soon
AMA federal president Dr Omar Khorshid can’t believe there will be a repeat of the chaos caused to doctors and patients in 2018, when the first tranche of the review changes were introduced.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2021/06/08/medicare-changes-hunt-government/
So your problem is that the libs got away with sick leave! Was the heart condition due to work?
Apparently Dan’s fall was on his way to work and therefore it is a compensable injury.
Why load the taxpayer up with all the $$$ when the purpose of this insurance is to cover exactly this type of accident?
ToM, WorkCover?
Do you actually know who pays for WorkCover?
Meanwhile … on more LNP medical failures for ordinary Aussies lives …
https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2021/06/08/medicare-changes-hunt-government/
But you keep taking me back there
But you don’t stay there … spumbum
So your problem is that the libs got away with sick leave!
I’m not the one carrying on like a fuckwit about it, am I
I’m just pointing out that others have had sick leave, often due to work, and it’s been left alone.
Even that one who took stress leave which she blamed on Labor asking questions lol
Your problem seems to be ….. Dan Envy?
Do you actually know who pays for WorkCover?
yomms shown time and again he’s not cluey about work related systems 😉
Businesses/employers pay WorkCover TB, did you know that?
That’s so that the cost burden does not fall to the taxpayer. Unless it’s Dan
And Tom R, do you think Dan has a different set of entitlements to everyone else?
Sadly, this is probably too late to be of much use to you, TB.
do you think Dan has a different set of entitlements to everyone else?
No, but you clearly do
Here’s someone who has a different set of realities to everyone else
Ahh, so that’s how it’s done.
The ALP prefers to brutalise children (and adults) by drowning them.
The LNP prefer the more personal touch
Not many people know what Rudd/Gillard got up to
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/young-looking-refugees-sent-offshore
Young-looking children were chosen to be transferred to the harsh Manus Island refugee detention centre to discourage other refugees from coming to Australia, an inquiry has heard…….
Gregory Lake, the former director of offshore processing and transfers at the Department of Immigration and Border Protection, told the inquiry he was directed by a ministerial staff member to choose the youngest-looking children from among those eligible for the first transfer of detained people from Australia to Manus Island in 2012, when Labor was in government.
Sadly, this is probably too late to be of much use to you, TB.
Played, won, sold … haven’t needed to bother for a decade …
The ALP prefers to brutalise children (and adults) by drowning them.
Thought you were better than that … but then cue yer mate, Kneel …
I know, I know … Dutton is an angel in disguise … and Karen is a cherub …
Prefers? FFS! No-one supports brutalising children in ANY way!
Does anyone remember YoM demanding the medical evidence in relation to Christian Porter and Linda Reynolds taking extended ‘medical leave’……??
Yeah, me neither. 🙄
Where have I asked for “medical evidence”?
Yeah, I haven’t
Does anyone remember YoM demanding the medical evidence in relation to Christian Porter and Linda Reynolds taking extended ‘medical leave’……??
I don’t recall him asking if they accessed workcover either (happy yomm)
I present this with no comment or opinion as to the truth or otherwise of the article, but the rumours have been written about on this thread, so here it is:
“Thought you were better than that … “
I figured you would always cover for the ALP.
Fact is that the mongrel Rudd had no reason to change the policy because no one was in detention and no boats were coming. It was the worst kind of virtue signalling.
The consequence was 1400 dead people and many more in detention. The ALP was warned at the time of the consequences of their decision but decided instead to celebrate their own virtue.
Sounds about right, Tony.
That rumours old and tires tosy, and it wa talked about LAST thread
https://theguttertrash.com/2021/05/18/virgin-ceo-let-them-all-die-ive-got-a-business-to-run-here/#comment-186411
I mean, did they beat him up, then move him to another house? Or are the ambos covering for him too (this one goes deeper than Andrews faking a global pandemic so he lock Victorians inside without access to Kindles!)
Perhaps it’s time to give it up, even yomms moved onto the big questions like ….. did he claim workcover?
Well, did Christian Porter or Linda Reynolds?
That rumours old and tires tosy, and it wa talked about LAST thread
Goodness, mea culpa. Such an important detail to get wrong.🙄
Goodness, mea culpa. Such an important detail to get wrong
Add it to the list 😉
This made me laugh though
Cairns News smelled a rat and asked the opinion of one of its friendly medicos who also noticed an odour saying the injuries were entirely consistent with having been severely kicked while in a prone position, leaving injuries often seen after wild brawls.
It’s also consistent with …… falling down steps. [facepalm]
Our grubmints busy grubminting
How to miscalculate and escalate the risk of conflict 101 …
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/06/08/scott-morrison-g7-china-2/
I figured you would always cover for the ALP.
You are a late arrival so won’t know that I can kick the shit out of the ALP with the best of ’em … and the ALP policy was bad and I said so … and the LNP was bad and I said so … enter Dodgy Dutton and it became downright cruel — guess what … and the family from Biloela is a classic case of not listening to the Australian people simply following blind ideology to the extreme … one person, or, a thousand is one too many, ESPECIALLY if they are children!
TB: “FFS! No-one supports brutalising children in ANY way!”
Also TB:“enter Dodgy Dutton and it became downright cruel”
Remember how this lockdown was a short, sharp “circuit breaker”? A week
It will be 3 weeks of severe restrictions.
This is a government that is hooked on spin
This is a government that is hooked on spin
lol
This is a government that is hooked on spin
And right now the Qld Health Minister is warning about a Melbourne couple who travelled through NSW and into Queensland … its the Victorians that flout the restrictions that keep causing your problems …
The problem isn’t Victorians , it is that the state government is failing on every measure
We have one leak from hotel quarantine for every 40 cases.
NSW has one per 120.
It is a debacle in Victoria
We have one leak from hotel quarantine for every 40 cases.
NSW has one per 120.
Yes, I have seen similar numbers mentioned. And many different ones. It depends a lot on how/when they measure it.
None of them make up a 99.9% success rate
They were the rates that Rafael Epstein put to James Merlino during a press conference, then again to a public official during his program.
Neither disputed the numbers.
It the virus leaks from Victorian hotel quarantine at about 3 times the rate of NSW
Yet another indicator that the Victorian government has failed
Prefers? FFS! No-one supports brutalising children in ANY way!
I have always believed that you find out what people believe by what they do not by what they say.
Fact is ALP/Greens locked up 8,000 children from 2008-2013. After locking them up labor did not even provide schooling for them. Morrison had to do that in 2014 when the Coalition was elected.
I remember the comments made about Howard who locked up some children then sponsored the Children in Detention report and then released them from detention. I remember the abuse he got.
Then when the people who abused Howard got into power they locked many more kiddies than Howard did
We have one leak from hotel quarantine for every 40 cases.
NSW has one per 120.
It is a debacle in Victoria
And others states have none … including whingers and runners! No-one skipped Greater Brisbanes lockdown … and Brisbane is greater than Melbourne …
People like you and others “inspire” recalcitrants because of your twisted right wing politics … control of this pandemic is a health and safety exercise – pure and simple … you should know that with all your corporate knowledge and experience … but you focus on ……….
Dan Andrews … (and blow hard against corporate manslaughter legislation – double standards everywhere)
I remember the comments … and I yours about all things LNP …
So what are your thoughts on on the family from Biloela … ?
Yet another indicator that the Victorian government has failed
As I said, depends on the measurement. Most of the discrepency comes from the one outbreak that went wild and caused their large 2nd lockdown.
They also have complete numbers, whereas NSW don’t have an exact count of potential cases.
If anything, it shows how unlucky Melbourne were to have that one big outbreak, or, more the case, how lucky other states have been that their multiple failures haven’t exploded.
It also fails to take into account the Ruby Princess.
Statistics, you know the old saying
Neither disputed the numbers.
in three minutes tell me the population of Greater Brisbane …
DEATHS! Victoria … Aged Care 655 … 655 … Responsibility …………..
https://www.health.gov.au/resources/covid-19-cases-in-aged-care-services-residential-care
Responsibility ………….. maybe a bit subtle … the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT …
Morrison & Co. are inept, incompetent, amateurish, bugling, clumsy, inexpert, certainly unprofessional and quite frankly a half arsed bunch of nincompoops to quote Churchill!
So what are your thoughts on on the family from Biloela … ?
Don’t know. We should help people in trouble. But they arrived in 2012 under Rudd/ALP. If they were in trouble why not stay in Indonesia??
Fact is most of these people are economic refugees coming here for a better life.
What China does is terrible, which should be an indication that what we do is terrible.
Pathological liar:
You know that the Queensland ALP is completely fucked up when Penny Wong makes more sense!
Tom R, the James Colley tweet was v funny.
“What China does is terrible, which should be an indication that what we do is terrible.”
This false equivalence is the trolling of a one-eyed shit eater.
Love it, us being on the same page as those we wish to demonize is “This false equivalence”
Victoria locks down
THEM: “Lockdowns are a farce and unnecessary”
2 Victorian escape lockdown and cruise around NSW
THEM: “How DARE Victoria let these people escape!”
This false equivalence is the trolling of a one-eyed shit eater. Says the …?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2 Victorian escape lockdown and cruise around NSW
And Qld … BOTH now positive … with “her” showing “signs for five days” … fucking Dan Andrews!
THEM: “How DARE Victoria let these people escape!”
Melbourne should have a ring of tanks around it and be patrolled by a thousand
armeddrones …“Love it, us being on the same page as those we wish to demonize is “This false equivalence””
Yes, yes. I see your logic now, Tom R.
Dan Andrews is on the ‘same page’ as fellow sexual predator Jim Jones, both leading their people to death and misery. And just like Jones’ followers, Victorians seem to have a pathetic case of Stockholm syndrome.
Jim Jones preached sky fairy babble, Victoria is following science
But yea, apart from those differences, everything else is different too
(Whatever ya pouring, pour me one 😉 )
“Victoria is following science”
Is that the science of letting your incompetent cronies run hotel quarantine? Or the science of arresting pregnant women for social media comments? Or the science of achieving 90% of Australian WuFlu deaths?
Or maybe it is the science of falling down stairs as practiced by sprung sexual predators everywhere.
It seems that Jim Jones and Stairman Dan have much in common:
Is that the science of letting your incompetent cronies run hotel quarantine?
No, that happened because the federal government abandoned the role they were created for
Morrison & Co. are inept, incompetent, amateurish, bugling, clumsy, inexpert, certainly unprofessional and quite frankly a half arsed bunch of nincompoops to quote Churchill!
I suspect the Public Service is running the country and the Coalition is just going along with PS policies.
The main difference now between the Coalition and Labor is border control. Labor does not believe in borders
I suspect the Public Service …
You really are a dolt … read this … Public Servants didn’t say it … LNP Federal MINISTERS did …
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/10/new-zealand-or-us-not-possible-for-biloela-tamil-family-karen-andrews
What happened to our country under this corrupt government …
<blockquote … because in the case of three out of four of the family members, they have been found not to be refugees. blockquote> !!
1) Is that the science of letting your incompetent cronies run hotel quarantine? 2) Or the science of arresting pregnant women for social media comments? 3) Or the science of achieving 90% of Australian WuFlu deaths?
4) Or maybe it is the science of falling down stairs as practiced by sprung sexual predators everywhere.
1) Proof of incompetent “cronies”?
2)
Are you being sexist? Or just bullshitting again? Shit no!
3) Do keep up
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June 9, 2021 6:26 pm
DEATHS! Victoria … Aged Care 655 … 655 … Responsibility …………..
https://www.health.gov.au/resources/covid-19-cases-in-aged-care-services-residential-care
4) Beware of defamation challenges … the LNP Federal Government is setting a precedent … Dan may follow … I’m a signatory to the Official Secrets Act but … I;ll have to tell ’em if they come knocking!
China is in trouble!
Now, what will the boy from Marketing do – get stuck in or offer help … ?
I know what I would do …
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/china-hit-by-devastating-covid-outbreak-in-the-city-of-guangzhou/news-story/42a8ac41bd27d3a24620e1888671e08e
TB
Not sure what your point is. Other than border control i see little difference between the ALP and Coalition.
If Labor gets back in they will drop our borders like last time.There are millions of people who want to come here for a better life. Not one or two.
“I suspect the Public Service is running the country and the Coalition is just going along with PS policies.”
So the government is stupid, lazy, incompetent or corrupt. More likely all of the above.
In terms of actually governing this lot have been a monumental failure. Might as well let Each-way Albo have a shot.
“No, that happened because the federal government abandoned the role they were created for”
Of course it was. Stairman Dan had no responsibility. It was the decision that made itself that was to blame. Just ask Cunt Coate who betrayed the people by not getting to the bottom of the matter.
I think there’s a lot of overlap between the anti vaxers and the anti Israel brigade. Have the greens been quiet on vaccination?
“there’s a lot of overlap between the anti vaxers and the anti Israel brigade”
It’s because the CEO of Pfizer, Albert Bourla, is a Jew.
It was the decision that made itself that was to blame.
It was the decision made because the Federal Government didn’t have a plan. Without our States, our cuntry would have been overrun. And the ones who kept our cuntry free of the virus, are the ones being bagged by the Feds, their media, and dumb fucks on twitter who thinks that you should be able to walk around in the open with a virulent, airborne virus floating around.
Where do they find these geniuses
“If it was the Federal government.”
Yet only Stairman Dan and his corruptocrats fucked it up.
So the government is stupid, lazy, incompetent or corrupt. More likely all of the above.
Perhaps. But it would take a brave Minister to go against PS advice during the current pandemic. I must admit i would not like to be in govt right now
“I must admit i would not like to be in govt right now”
Let’s hope you never get anywhere near the levers of power, you stupid autistic cunt!
Yet only Stairman Dan and his corruptocrats fucked it up.
Link? Or did you read/hear it on Rupert’s Right Wing Rag’s ‘n’ Ratbags Reports
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Interesting
Yet only Stairman Dan and his corruptocrats fucked it up.
Even though the number of times the virus has leaked from Hotel Quarantine, all secured by private security guards, was just mentioned above. wow
Me
And I find it odd that in a country that separates state and religion – they say The Lords Prayer in courts and parliaments?
I agree, Tom R. What killed 900 Victorians was not just the corrupt selection process that put incompetent people in charge of quarantine but a more systemic incompetence leading to an inability to deal with problems once the virus was allowed into the community.
The thing that differentiates Victoria from the rest of the country is the sheer arrogance and incompetence of Stairman Dan.
Trouble is you’ve got your head so far up Dan’s arse you can’t even tell when the drunken mongrel is groping someone’s daughter.
“””Let’s hope you never get anywhere near the levers of power, you stupid autistic cunt!”””
Why so nasty?? Being in govt right now would be difficult.It is a lose lose situation. If you make a mistake and 200 people die of the virus the blood would be on your head. If you do everything right you get no thanks.
Hence safer to go with Public Service advice and say i was just doing PS policy
“Why so nasty?? “
Why not?? Are you not a stupid cunt?
The thing that differentiates Victoria from the rest of the country is .
Go on, show something. Something tangible. Something evidence based.
Are you not a stupid cunt?
See, THAT’S evidence based 😉
“””Why not?? Are you not a stupid cunt?””””
I don’t think so but you certainly are a nasty person.
But i suspect the Public Service is running the joint and the Coalition is just going along with Public Service advice. Except for border control.
Go on, show something. Something tangible. Something evidence based.
Did you miss the evidence of the virus being about 3 times more likely to escape from hotel quarantine in Victoria, compared to NSW?
Did you miss the evidence of the virus being about 3 times more likely to escape from hotel quarantine in Victoria, compared to NSW?
And did you miss – more GROUP protests and ESCAPEES from Victoria spreading disease with the greatest of ease …
Geoffrey Edelstein has died at only 78. I feel so sad for all his former wives, but Gabi was my favourite. She seemed nice
I think you meant … Geoffrey Edelsten 🙄
What’s the big deal? I mean who hasn’t been caught masturbating during a zoom meeting?
What’s the big deal?
Perpetuating the issue?
“you certainly are a nasty person.”
Neil, you are conversing on a blog called “The Guttertrash” with an interlocutor named Splatterbottom In such circumstances some colourful language is to be expected. Particularly when you run outrageously stupid arguments.
Defending the Coalition’s hideously bad job of governing the country by suggesting that the public service is in control is well stupid. It doesn’t help the Government to put it about that they are too lazy or too stupid to do their fucking job.
I think the “once you get a VC everyone hates you” argument is a bit light on for precedent.
Yeah, nah, not doing that! 🙄
Defending the Coalition’s hideously bad job of governing the country by suggesting that the public service is in control is well stupid.
I don’t want to play politics with the pandemic. I have no idea what problems they are facing. I wont even say anything against Daniel Andrews even though i would like to.
Eventually they catch up (I hope!)
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/13/this-has-gone-on-too-long-more-coalition-mps-call-for-biloela-family-to-be-freed-from-detention
TB
If one million people did the same thing would your opinion change??
BTW they came here illegally by boat under Rudd and their kids were born in Australia. If they were fleeing persecution they could have staid in Indonesia. They came here for a lifestyle choice
With the much publicised rise of right wing terrorists groups in Straya, and the less publicised rise of police state powers mutton was granted, the TEWWAWIST UNIT strikes it first blow ….. against democracy?
QAnon … Morrison … Four Corners … can’t wait …
https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/scott-morrison-hits-out-at-four-corners-ahead-of-qanon-report/news-story/9787efa1317b776be677b803eac2a1c1
The G7 BS should finalise the Morrison Playhouse and bring the curtain down on the comedy (of horrors*) show!
If this lot is returned … NZ is looking good! Even PNG!
BTW … TR … I hope he doesn’t mean Friendly Geordies … ? ‘Cause its a misnomer …
TomR
That is a he said/she said thing and not worth posting. It would take days of research to find out who said what.
But the guy was most probably provoking the Minister and he has a thin skin and got sick of it. Best to post things that try and improve things and not be a smart alec
It would take days of research to find out who said what.
It was video taped ffs nil
TomR
I don’t know the full story but from what i have heard the guy has been provoking the NSW govt Minister for a long time. He was almost daring the guy to sue him. Well now he is getting sued.
The Minister must have a very thin skin though to want to sue someone nobody has heard of.
Why last nights 4Corners story is more than just a conspiracy. If the worst case scenario is correct, then the damage morrison has done to survivors is massive, and malignantly evil
Watch the msm ignore this like the plague.
Not only is Bruce Pascoe not an indigenous man, according to Tasmanian elder Michael Mansell, turns out his book Dark Emu is full of made up bullshit with ‘evidence’ manipulated to suit his hypothesis that aborigines were not “mere” hunter gatherers.
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.tasmaniantimes.com/2020/01/bruce-pascoe-is-not-aboriginal/amp/
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/national/debunking-dark-emu-did-the-publishing-phenomenon-get-it-wrong-20210507-p57pyl.html
‘evidence’ manipulated
I mean, these people just don’t like how he didn’t use the entire paragraph when quoting. Perhaps they don’t know how quoting works?
Cherry picking is paraphrasing without reference, quoting is using the required section, and referencing your source
The references were there
Just watched last night’s Four Corners program.
There’s no there there.
Porter Frightens my ABC with ‘Defamation To The Node’ (-:`
There’s no there there.
Is the qnon code?
I just finished watching last night’s Four Corners program The Awakening.
Naive, fool, dodgy, arrogant, or incompetent … certainly unsuitable for office.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 @ TR
“Naive, fool, dodgy, arrogant, or incompetent … certainly unsuitable for office.”
In other words there’s no there there!
That description applies to most pollies, especially Each-way Albo.
WWG1WGA!
Now if you want to see a pair of lunatics with a deranged conspiracy theory try this:
Clinton and Pelosi suggest Trump may have been on phone with Putin during Capitol siege
Not sure how that is deranged splats. His collusion with putin is pretty well known.
So, how do you feel about this then? Does it sit comfortably with you?
“His collusion with putin is pretty well known.”
You have proof of this?
I didn’t watch 4 Corners. Sounds like what the ABC does best – attack the Libs. Not that they don’t deserve it but a little balance would be nice.
And Hatefucker Benji is as disreputable as the ABC.
I didn’t watch 4 Corners. Right wing attack mode engaged … make it so!
Chuckle!
I suggest you watch it before you comment further … or is this just another ritual attack on the ABC?
You can tell who watches Sky … and supports Ruperts’ Rag ‘a’ Muffins …
You have proof of this?
All you need to do is look there there 😉
“Right wing attack mode engaged … make it so!”
So this is right wing attack mode: Saying the Libs deserved to be attacked by the ABC. Can’t you read, TB?
So you have no proof, Tom R.
In fact, it was Obama who let the Russians take Crimea and Donbas. Obama wouldn’t arm the Ukrainians. Trump did. Trump stopped the Russian pipeline to Europe. Biden approved it and then closed the US pipeline (so his donors could cash in transporting the oil by rail).
So this is right wing attack mode: Saying the Libs deserved to be attacked by the ABC. Can’t you read, TB?
Obviously you don’t read what YOU write … I didn’t say the Libs (liberal my arse) “deserved” to be attacked … you said … Sounds like what the ABC does best – attack the Libs.
I said … suggest.you.watch.it.before.you.comment.further. – have you watched it? Or just blindly defended the Liberal Party?
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Biden approved it and then closed the US pipeline (so his donors could cash in transporting the oil by rail).
Read this before you comment ….
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=why+did+biden+shut+down+the+pipeline&sxsrf=ALeKk03YZmETKSlE2ct-QLEhaaPWkB8jsw%3A1623744443926&source=hp&ei=u1_IYI_PNfHgz7sPyZmH6AY&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYMhty5I1KRTsWf2HWUQlFBUMo36Gx4Tb&oq=why+did+Biden+close+the+pipeline&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYATICCAAyBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeOgUIABCxAzoICAAQsQMQgwE6CwguELEDEIMBEJMCOgIILjoFCC4QsQM6BAgAEANQ-xBYr2Jg2HFoAHAAeAOAAaIFiAHqPpIBCjEuMjQuMy41LTWYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEA&sclient=gws-wiz
Can’t you read, TB?
Yep, but insults and bullshit won’t make it read any different …
Are you really Q ….. Anon?
Australia is not part of the G7 but was invited as a guest along with India, South Korea and South Africa.
Yeah! Yeah!
https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/photo-of-scott-morrison-at-english-pub-sparks-backlash/news-story/807dd369b076f7aa1bc5ae3e98ca2388
And he doesn’t have links to anyone!
Ben Roberts-Smith tells the defamation hearing he hired a private investigator to follow his ex girlfriend to a Brisbane abortion clinic when the pair agreed to terminate a pregnancy after they had broken up.
He sounds like a lovely guy.
Can’t you read, TB?
interesting coming from there and there
He sounds like a lovely guy.
So, was he a lovely guy, or was he trained to kill? It’s getting confusing.
I can only take away from the silence then that many here are quite happy for the leader of our cuntry to be influenced by qananon. I do like the new nickname though, Sqomo
I can only take away from the silence then that many here are quite happy for the leader of our cuntry to be influenced by qananon.
Or maybe, like me, they think it’s all a beat-up.
Or maybe, like me, they think it’s all a beat-up.
Dare I say … “Questions to answer”
And maybe this time he shouldn’t lie
Another good question
Someone stuffed-up
Or did they?
Can you explain how ASIO allowed these ppl to access PM & unfettered access to Kirribilli House?
Nah … just a beat up … boom boom boom boom …
It’s getting confusing. … or bloody boring …
Thank goodness Gold Gladys is in charge!
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/15/potentially-corrupt-nsw-government-land-purchase-prompts-inquiry-into-20-similar-deals
Morrison has questions to answer
Here’s an alternative narrative: Morrison’s enemies clutch at straws.
And since when was it one homogeneous group that “stormed the US Capitol”? A feeble attempt by Rudd at guilt by association – by association.
Here’s an alternative narrative: Morrison’s enemies clutch at straws.
Here’s a reality
The FBI made qanon a terrorist organization
Our pm invited a member of a terrorist organization into Kirribilly house
And since when was it one homogeneous group that “stormed the US Capitol”?
Pretty sure Rudd didn’t claim that
by association.
Yes, an associate that managed to get a terrorist phrase into a parliamentary apology, (to rape victims ffs) and who had free access to our seat of power. Imagine , if you will, it was another terrorist organization, like …. Al-Qaeda?
Pretty sure Rudd didn’t claim that
Pretty sure he did. Rudd fancies himself as a bit of a wordsmith so could have written that more clearly and truthfully (had he wanted to). The following is closer to the facts of the matter:
Morrison has questions to answer on his personal relationship with
a leadingan activist ofthe sameone of the extremist religious/conspiracy groups that stormed the US Capitolfyi wordy smithy
” one homogeneous group ” 😉
But, STOP THE MEMES!
So Tom R is a fan of Rudd.
That’s after him being a strident critic of him, and questioning his mental health/emotional suitability for the Prime Ministership, which was after Tom R being an ardent supporter/zealot of Rudd.
* Note- I voted for Rudd/ALP in 2013
Chimpy TB: “… you said …” Funnily enough you didn’t give the full quote. In particular you didn’t quote the bit where I said that the Libs deserved to be attacked. Dumb or dishonest – you choose.
You accused me of: “Or just blindly defended the Liberal Party?”
I actually said:
Conclusion – either you can’t read or you are as dumb as your fellow chimp, Chimpy Neil.
So Tom R is a fan of Rudd.
LINK
Everything is so black and white with you, isn’t it.
Of course, if your biggest take away from the valid questions over the influence asserted over our sitting pm by a terrorist organization is the choice of who is asking those questions, that says a lot about you
I note nobody here has been able to posit an explanation, just shooting messengers
Like this one
It is a bit rich that discredited mongrel Milligan accuses others of believing in conspiracy theories.
Not that they don’t deserve it but a little balance would be nice.
Watched the 4 Corners episode yet?
The report was balanced* … the PM was influenced by a QAnon “leader” …
Just not in your eyes … having not watched it. 🙄
So now you finally quoted the relevant bit, Chimpy. Not really blindly defending the Liberal Party is it?
discredited mongrel Milligan
LINK!
Just not in your eyes … having not watched it.
Same all the josh etal came out and said it was rubbish, without having seen it
Here’s a reality
The FBI made qanon a terrorist organization
Our pm invited a member of a terrorist organization into Kirribilly house
Yeah, might have to take issue with you on this one too. The purpose of the FBI memo this fake news comes from was “to inform discussions within law enforcement as they relate to potentially harmful conspiracy theories and domestic extremism”. Nowhere have they “made qanon a terrorist organization”, making your next sentence a false claim also.
oops, my bad tosy, ‘potential’ terrorist threat 😉 (One would think that a failed insurrection might tip the scales, hey) But, he has been raised with ASIO as a person of concern. So why do they allow him access?
Either way, the ball is fairly and squarely in SQOMO’s court
The most significant thing about the allegations at the heart of Monday’s Four Corners report on Scott Morrison’s friendship with QAnon supporter Tim Stewart is that the prime minister has repeatedly failed to answer reasonable questions.
https://insidestory.org.au/what-four-corners-did-and-didnt-do/
failed insurrection
Another fake news anti-Trump talking point. 🙄
Can’t see anyone charged with (attempted) insurrection, or killing anyone (the police shot and killed a protester).
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases
Link: Mongrel Milligan.
Forget Qanon. The real conspiracy was the use of the fictional Clinton Dossier by the FBI to defraud the FISA court to get warrants to spy on Trump, even after he was elected.
The swamp won and is now firmly in charge.
discredited cos, someone didn’t like the book lol
Witness is a hard read. There are 16 Chapters but no sub-headings, no photos or illustrations and no index. Also, at times, a reader has to wade through the prose.
FORMAT IT FOR ME!! lol
Another fake news anti-Trump talking point.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/09/us/capitol-hill-insurrection-extremist-flags-soh/index.html
But, he has been raised with ASIO as a person of concern
By whom, his “estranged” sister (and unsuccessful Greens party candidate)? Or some other equally disinterested party?
his “estranged” sister
Yes. go on, blame the rape victim
Yes. go on, blame the rape victim
Oh, do fuck off.
You made the claim he was “raised with ASIO”. Who did that if not his Greens candidate – and according to Four Corners, estranged – sister?
Not sure where I was wrong there tosy
Just answer the question. Who “raised” him “with ASIO”?
Or, in language you might understand: LINK!
Just answer the question.
What part of ‘Yes’ did you have difficulty comprehending?
“his “estranged” sister
Yes. go on, blame the rape victim”
What part of ‘Yes’ did you have difficulty comprehending?
The part where you deliberately conflated it with something from her past completely unrelated to the question at hand and not mentioned by me or anyone else on this thread at all.
That moronic part.
something from her past completely unrelated to the question at hand
Completely?
Also, at times, a reader has to wade through the prose.
Sound a bit like some comments @ Guttertash 😁😂🤣😃😄
Completely?
Yes, completely. The question at hand (the one you were evading) was: Who “raised” him “with ASIO”?
Sound a bit like some comments @ Guttertash
Prose? Why, TB, you’ll make me blush 😉
Who “raised” him “with ASIO”?
To be fair, I replied with the affirmative when asked, so, yes, his sister, who was particularly harmed by the statement the pm made that day.
Eat your coal … SQomo!
https://www.elettershop.de/mailing/vpm/c/336f5cO10ca96O763015Ofda06a/contentonly/1
What a target for other businesses
As an aside … I have relatives in the Netherlands … the rail system there runs entirely on renewables!
And check out: https://alpha-311.com/ …
Prose? Why, TB, you’ll make me blush
Chuckle … my unpublished book of poems I called “Pros Ache” 🙄 Hey! I was in my late 20’s!
(Ab-use of power? What abuse of power?)
Who better to ask such questions than an expert on the subject:
putin is a modern day Perry Mason
just like Straya is a modern day China
Where were Paul Bongiorno and Michael West during the brutal arrests of Melbourne lockdown protesters? Seems free speech to these ‘journalists’ need only be reported on when it affects one of their fellow leftists and there is a ‘conservative’ government to criticise.
“discredited cos, someone didn’t like the book lol”
Touché Tom R. You’ve refuted each of the criticisms of Mongrel Milligan. At least the one you were able to. The rest still stand, untouched by your withering analysis.
Scion of the Biden crime and incest family, Crackhead Hunter, is fond of using the N-word and doesn’t fancy dating Asians. Funnily enough the fake news media isn’t on fire about this and under the two-tiered cancel culture system Crackhead gets a pass where others would have had their lives ruined.
It’s nice to see Tom R agreeing with a former priest who shared a room with Australia’s most notorious pedophile, but denied suspecting anything.
Meanwhile… remember Tony Abbott… apparently he was a former trainee priest! That was an indicator of his true character
The rest still stand, untouched by your withering analysis.
The rest are as vapid.
agreeing with a former priest who shared a room with Australia’s most notorious pedophile
Luckily for me, I have no idea what you are ranting about. All I can gather is, instead of arguing the points, you appear fixated on attacking the messenger. Seems to be the thing these days
The problem is that freedom of speech has never been guaranteed by the constitution. The High Court has managed to find an implied right to some forms of political speech. The problem goes back to the drafting of the constitution where it was decided not to include a bill of rights:
“The rest are as vapid.”
More withering analysis. Now I’m convinced!
Give me a moment, I’m still trying to work out how Christian Porter appointing “black letter” judges changed the constitution. Don’t you need a referendum for that?
Ive seen you routinely dismiss an opinion as a result of the organisation a journalist works for, regardless of their personal orientation and reputation
Good news for Australia’s Barrier Reef you’ll likely not hear about in the media
I’m still trying to work out how Christian Porter appointing “black letter” judges changed the constitution
I think that’s the point, the constitution doesn’t offer a protection perse. I’m actually ok with that. Things change over time, and much is a reflection of current views and beliefs. It also means that we can have the grubmint who cry the most about ‘Free Speech” being the represive of them all.
yomm, I’ve often refused to read shit from murdoch, but that is usally after a long period of time proving how stupid they are. I’m not wasting my time on htem, much like the GBR link above. But, thBut not being sure which one you are referring to in your comment, I’m happy to find another reference you can ignore without ever addressing hte actual issue. 😉
btw, hte formatting on this page has gone to shit, I’m typing in a little little line, it’s aggravating.
“formatting on this page has gone to shit”
I’ve been typing in a new email and cutting and pasting to the comment line.
I’ve often refused to read shit from murdoch
My elderly mother cannot stand the ABC so she watches Skynews.
Fact is you lefties cannot stand people with a different opinion and want to ban such people.
a different opinion
A different opinion I can put up with, but not different facts.
murdoch has enough demonstrable history of lying that anything printed there needs to been proven before being believed.
I see free trade agreements to the libs just means another opportunity to give away Australian jobs, just like they did with the Chinese one. Does this mean that we are about to go to war with Britain soon too?
“I see free trade agreements to the libs just means another opportunity to give away Australian jobs”
Agreed Tom R. Free trade agreements are part of the globalist agenda. No self-respecting nationalist could support them.
WWG1WGA
You said self-respecting but then followed it with WWG1WGA, ya not making sense
Seems like the hesitant ones were the smart ones after all. Personally, I followed the WHO recommendations, not our failed state, which made me ‘hesistant’
… apparently he was a former trainee priest!
No, he WAS a “trainee” priest … not apparently … and it is:
… an indicator of his true character
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The FARMERS did not seek to establish the Constitution as a catalyst for the protection of civil liberties.
Think about who wrote the Constitution …
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My elderly mother cannot stand the ABC so she watches Skynews.
SUrprise, surprise … explains so much …
Fact is you lefties cannot stand people with a different opinion and want to ban such people.
Are you banned? Ever been here? Ever wonder why you’ve been banned elsewhere?
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A different opinion I can put up with, but not different facts.
Whoo! Go TR! 😎
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murdoch has enough demonstrable history of lying that anything printed there needs to been proven before being believed.
Bloke down the street has bumper sticker “Is it true? Or did you read it in the Courier Mail”
Does this mean that we are about to go to war with Britain soon too?
Don’t even joke about it, cobbler!
My understanding is that it also makes it easier for Australians to travel and work in the UK?
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WWG1WGA JFC! We have our own QAnon member … makes sense … we have been infiltrated …
KNeel! Turn your computer off … NOW! And your Mum’s!
No self-respecting nationalist …
Please explain …. nationalist?
For the interested …
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2020/10/07/what-does-wwg1wga-mean/
G’day ToM!
https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/victorian-residents-fleeing-the-state-in-droves-according-to-new-abs-data/news-story/adf1429253d714d4bfe62fa8c08d9d4c
“We have our own QAnon member
I would’ve thought, TB, that given the preponderance of paedophiles in the ALP, it is not a stretch to think that there might be a bunch of them among the Democrats.
It’s hard to know if we should laugh or cry?
The venn diagram of shady characters all appear to have SQomo at the centre
‘not published by @4corners due to their
sensitivitycomplete lack of substance.’Hastie want to be very careful here …
The evidence involving Hastie concerns an allegation that Roberts-Smith ordered a subordinate soldier – anonymised before the court as Person 66 – to kill an unarmed Afghan in Syahchow during a mission in October 2012. Roberts-Smith confirmed in court on Friday that Hastie was present: “he came on the mission”.
For those not in the “know” Robert-Smith was a corporal … Hastie was Captain …
Ranks OR’s (Other Ranks – lowly ones)
Private
Lance corporal
Corporal ………. Roberts -Smith
(the folks who RUN the Army)
Sergeant
Staff Sergeant
Warrant Officer WO2
Warrant Officer WO1
RSM – Regimental Sergeant Major (Can actually order officers)
Officer Ranks the (Senior ones):
2nd Lieutenant
Lieutenant (often referred to a 1st Lieutenant )
Captain ————– Hastie
Major
2nd Lieutenant
Lieutenant
You want more?
https://www.army.gov.au/our-people/ranks
Point! If Hastie was “on the mission” guess who was responsible … ?
And FYI … troopers don’t play “movie soldiers” … a corporal has a bit of respect … when shit gets serious (nah – normal shit) diggers are quite happy to say, “Fuck off Andrew!
Either way the most senior officer is – under military law – responsible for the actions of subordinate troops … Roberts-Smith was a JUNIOR other ranks “officer” … Hastie was the SENIOR officer …
Just for you reb … know you ya bugger!
reb of Melbourne permalink*
June 15, 2021 8:13 pm
Unlike you to pre-judge …
I would’ve thought
That seems to be your biggest problem … splatterbum …
complete lack of substance
Too Right 😉
You know what’s a conspiracy theory? That complete garbage about Jenny Morrison giving secret hand signals, that’s what. To quote Victorian Assistant Commissioner of Police, Chief “Donuts” Wiggum: it’s batshit crazy!
Once Is an Accident. Twice is a Coincidence. Three Times is a Habit
Yeah, well, maybe she’s a lizard person and that’s just how they hold their hands. Ever thought about that?
I don’t think i have ever spent much time looking closely at a persons hand in a photograph. It is not something i would have noticed. It shows Labor supporters even spend time watching how Jenny Morrison places her hands.
Haven’t you lefties got better things to do??
“That complete garbage about Jenny Morrison giving secret hand signals, that’s what.”
Clearly Jenny’s hand signal has been misinterpreted. While she may be smiling on the outside she is feeling nothing on the inside mainly due to the tiny diameter of Scott’s schlong.
Seems our ‘leader’ learned nothing from his Hawaiian jaunt
It’s a disgrace!
I do hope all this is reflected in the next election … just one positive action for the people of Australia and their opinions would be a pleasant change, instead of the flawed backward looking ideology and mumble words of Morrison and his LNP crony enablers …
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/22/guardian-essential-poll-majority-of-voters-fear-australia-will-be-left-behind-on-climate-change
“the flawed backward looking ideology and mumble words of Morrison “
Sadly, the only real choice is the flawed backward-looking ideology and mumble words of Eachway Albo.
Sadly, the only real choice is the flawed backward-looking ideology and mumble words of Eachway Albo.
This lot has had eight years … I’m no fan of Albo but there are much better team members on his side … Time For A Change!
Why continue to bet when the fucking horse is dead?
Yeah, go with that, lefties. Because the Guardian Essential poll predicted ScoMo would win the last election. Didn’t they? Didn’t they?
I presume TB knows what a peaking plant is?
I presume TB knows what a peaking plant is?
A Super Silver Haze?
I presume TB knows what a peaking plant is?
Your presumptive powers astound me, splatterbum!
I assume you know what batteries are?
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=South+Aus++batteries+saved+other+states&sxsrf=ALeKk01LY1iqMjWt1D1mE2Zc9KCHw4vY8w%3A1624351404391&ei=rKLRYMCZF9u-9QO4jZZQ&oq=South+Aus++batteries+saved+other+states&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAw6BwgAEEcQsAM6BQghEKABOggIIRAWEB0QHjoHCCEQChCgAToECCEQFVCghwJY-akCYK65AmgBcAJ4AIABlwKIAewWkgEFMC42LjiYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6yAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwjAn8vD7KrxAhVbX30KHbiGBQoQ4dUDCA0
But not how they operate!
So, I see China is now being blamed for killing the GDR. This is kinda embarrassing. How low will their racism let them sink I wonder?
Of course, these claims themselves are based around .. lies.
Dr Fanny Douvere, of Unesco’s World Heritage Centre in Paris, also rejected a suggestion from the Australian environment minister, Sussan Ley, that the UN body had told the government a week ago it would not be recommending the listing.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jun/23/un-official-rejects-australias-claim-it-was-told-great-barrier-reef-wouldnt-be-listed-as-in-danger
Well, that’s another gold standard fuck up
Snap lockdown possible for NZ after trans-Tasman bubble breach
https://thenewdaily.com.au/new-zealand/2021/06/23/nz-covid-sydney-traveller/
It’s quite clear this recommendation is more about climate activism than the actual health of the reef.
And although “Australia alone can’t save the Great Barrier Reef”, it’s only Australian tourism operators, farmers, hospitality businesses etc. that will suffer from such a listing.
Presumably federal Labor will endorse this recommendation and further entrench their ineluctability in Queensland seats.
*unelectability
“Your presumptive powers astound me, splatterbum!”
It wasn’t me this time, TB.
On another note I’m in the process of watching all 90 of the original All Creatures Great And Small TV series. A very fine depiction of Yorkshire and its crusty characters.
it’s only Australian tourism operators, farmers, hospitality businesses etc. that will suffer from such a listing.
I presume the tour guides in Iceland felt the same tosy, their glaciers are at the frontline of AGW 😉
But whinging won’t change the facts. And lying definitely won’t
I presume the tour guides in Iceland felt the same tosy
Fucked if I know, but let me bring you back to the topic you raised: that ‘the Great Barrier Reef be placed on the world heritage “in danger” list’.
Do you and your overlords in the Labor party think such a listing will overall be good for Australia (in general, and Queensland in particular), or not? And will you and they be supporting it?
will overall be good for Australia
It’s irrelevant, because it’s just what is. It’s not a political message, it’s a reality message.
Losing the reef altogether is not good. Having it slowly dying in front of our eyes while tour operators complain about it is irrelevant too
And will you and they be supporting it?
It’s not to support or not, it’s to recognise it. And, it has been on the edge for years. It should come as no surprise. But it should come as a warning that the world is not doing enough, And we, as a country, are now trailing the world, by a great deal
It all comes down to the fact of, do you want your grand children to be able to see it as it is now, or a broken chain of surviving remnants of a great reef?
It wasn’t me this time, TB.
My deepest, heartfelt apologies, splatterbum … you know how it is, busy with project and a quick flick thru the comments here … I guess you and ToMmy write so much alike! 😊
On a lighter note – if you are enjoying All Creatures etc … check out – Our Yorkshire Farm …
great place to grow up!
And lying definitely won’t
Can you “overtly” lie? I thought it was simply lying?
“Our Yorkshire Farm” looks promising, TB. Nine children – just like our family.
What a wishy washy load of crap!
The UN and its agencies are political organisations with various agendas. And it’s not a “message”, it’s a listing, where the Reef would be proscribed as “in danger”, bringing with it all kinds of restrictions and obligations. The decision to list or not will be made by an unelected political, bureaucratic organisation in New York.
UNESCO itself says the main problem with the reef is climate change which Austrslia alone can do nothing about. But you can put money on restrictions being imposed on tourism, fertilisers and farming techniques, leisure boating, diving trips etc. etc.
The government has stated they will oppose the politicsl listing of the Reef and will campaign against it. The question is, will Labor support them?
The decision to list or not will be made by an unelected political, bureaucratic organisation in New York.
Professionals in their fields I think you meant to say
The government has stated they will oppose the politicsl listing of the Reef and will campaign against it.
If they put as much effort in real action as they do into political action (which you are claiming the professionals in their field of laughingly), we might not be in this situation
I mean, they even claimed giving $444 million to their mates would make the problem go away. I’m guessing the professionals weren’t fooled
If they put as much effort in real action as they do into political action (which you are claiming the professionals in their field of laughingly), we might not be in this situation
What “real action” do you suggest they take? Another carbon tax, perhaps?
Let me quote from one of your own “professionals in their field”, Fanny Douvere: “It is very clear that climate change is the overarching threat to the reef and we are very aware that Australia alone can’t save the Great Barrier Reef.”
Another carbon tax, perhaps?
Ignoring the fact that we never never had one, yes, ANY action
Maybe there is some real action being taken, however, on things we can control.
http://www.environment.gov.au/marine/gbr/long-term-sustainability-plan ontrol.
I do hope Labor takes another not-a-carbon-tax “price on carbon” to the next election. 🙏
Maybe there is some real action being taken, however, on things we can control.
Have I got a Bridge for you tosy 😉
What a wishy washy load of crap!
You’ve visited the reef? You’ve snorkled the reef? Over a number of years?
Some people who aren’t scientists (and other who are) can tell you it has changed dramatically …
It’s a PLAN not ACTION … even The Projects section is all planning … talkfest nonsense …
can tell you it has changed dramatically …
I recall some plunker on these pages telling us years ago it looked fine to him. That turned out well.
Maybe Tosy should check out all this ‘politicising’. Yes, all she does is constantly refer to the scientific data, while those crying about it reference fucken tour operators.
all she does is constsntly refer to the scientific data
. She doesn’t. She repeatedly refers to the “1.5 degree long term target aligned with the Paris agreement”. Three times in four minutes. She says that it’s up to the international community.
She has akready said Australia alone can’t save the reef. So there’s nothing we can do unilaterally to have it delisted, The reef won’t be taken off the “in danger” list until some arbitrary number of degrees warming of the planet is met. When might that be, do you think?
Meanwhile, yes, tourism, hospitality, farming all will suffer. Sound like a good deal to you?
Oh, and we still don’t know Labor’s position. Let us know if it’s in today’s talking points, there’s a good chap.
“1.5 degree long term target aligned with the Paris agreement”
Which is driven by …. scientific data
She has akready said Australia alone can’t save the reef.
Why do you take it so personally? We are lucky to have such a wonder on our doorstep. But, at the same time, as it is being threatened by AGW, what should we do, ignore it because WE feel victimized by it?
But, as she points out, the WORLD needs to act. Which it is. Do you know who isn’t? The country currently whining about their natural features being acknowledged for being in the danger they are in.
Oh how precious, and willfully ignorant, we are.
“what should we do”
You tell me.
“Net zero by 2050”, for example? Will that do the job? Then when will the “in danger” listing be removed: 2050, or when the promise is made?
If this listing is confirmed, the fate of a large part of the Queensland economy will be in the hands of UN bureaucrats. I never voted for them, did you?
You tell me.
Again?
If this listing is confirmed, the fate of a large part of the Queensland economy will be in the hands of … reality. You can ignore it all you want.
As I mentioned earlier, Iceland have to deal with watching their natural features melt away. You don’t see them blaming scientists for that.
BETTER ECONOMIC MANAGERS lol
A new analysis by Labor has found even before the pandemic, the 2015 forecasts have proved to be well short of expectations.
As of December 2019 the economy was $91 billion smaller than predicted in 2015 with a cumulative loss of $201 billion in economic activity.
This underperformance equates to an average loss of $8,036 per person, it says.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7311119/labor-takes-aim-at-frydenbergs-forecasts/
Again?
Guffaw! If you’ve ever explained your plan, I must have missed it. So, yes, again! (Or are you wsiting to find out Labor’s position?)
[Why can’t I copy/paste on this site atm?]
Well, well, looky here. Labor’s shadow minister for the environment:
https://terrimbutler/status/1407114996878774275?s=21
If you’ve ever explained your plan, I must have missed it.
What, do I need it to be costed too?
Any action that helps us move to a low Carbon society is required, but we don’t have that. Labors specific ‘plan’ is a long way from being released (unless the predictions for an election in 3 months is correct). And I hope they bring in some form of Carbon Pricing, because we are soon to be hit with a global one. To think, we could have reaped the benefits, but now, we will pay the price. Either way, their past history shows that they will do what is necessary to actually achieve something tangible, like their previous mechanism, the results from which the current mob cling to like a rat on a sinking ship
She’s not wrong, is she tosy 😉
But blaming reality for the downgrade, or the scientists who are witnessing the reality, is pure Phantasy, and a continuation of the long history of buck passing by this failure of a grubmint
Apparently a NSW minister has Covid. What to do, what to do?
Butler said no one wants the reef to be considered “in danger” and the government should “do everything possible to prevent the listing being made”.
http://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jun/24/great-barrier-reef-labor-calls-on-sussan-ley-to-back-up-claim-unesco-bowed-to-political-pressure?__twitter_impression=true
She’s not wrong, is she tosy 😉
Lol, a quick backflip as soon as Labor’s position is made clear. They don’t want the listing to be made. Terri Butler, especially, a Queensland MP who happens to be shadow environment minister. She values her job and has sniffed the Queensland breeze.
“64,000 jobs it supports”
That’s 64,000 voters. A lot more if you count concerned friends and family.
while those crying about it reference fucken tour operators.
Like Terri Butler?
No one WANTS the reef to be listed in danger, but Butler is also clear that this decision has been a long time coming
“It shouldn’t be a shock to anyone that Unesco is deeply concerned about the reef,” she said. “Unesco decisions in 2015 and 2017, major reports in 2017, 2019 and 2020, and bleaching events in 2016, 2017 and 2020 should all have sounded alarms for the federal government.”
And, she wants the Libs to back up their claim about ‘political involvement’ in the decision. She’s calling them out.
But you read it how how you want, you know, picking words you want, but ignoring all those awkward ones around them. 😉
https://theconversation.com/politics-with-michelle-grattan-sussan-ley-and-terri-butler-on-the-great-barrier-reef-being-in-danger-163286
Hunter Biden is in the news again
https://nypost.com/2021/06/22/did-joe-inadvertently-pay-for-hunter-bidens-wild-night-at-chateau-marmont/
Yanna goes to the cottage. He smokes crack, they drink vodka, have sex, make porn. He balances a line of M&Ms on his erect penis and takes photographs of it.
All of these messages, all of these pictures, are saved on Hunter Biden’s laptop, which he treats like a diary, storing every email and text conversation, his financial records, and his copious selfies. A year later, Hunter will forget the laptop at a Delaware repair shop, and it will end up in the hands of the FBI………….Did one of the credit cards used to pay Yanna belong to Joe Biden? Was it a shared account?
“It’s really important [the government] demonstrate to the world they’re serious about protecting the reef, preserving it for future generations. And if they do that, they should also be in a position to fight really hard to avoid this particular listing.”
That’s the money quote there tosy. As I said, nobody WANTS it, but the reality is, here we are. Perhaps you can point to the section where she says the listing is actually wrong? From everything you’ve put up, she says it’s regrettable, but also not unforeseen (but was possibly avoidable)
No one WANTS the reef to be listed in danger
Jeez, yesterday you were the listing’s biggest cheerleader. But I suppose you had fall in line with whatever Labor is saying today, so here you are.
she says it’s regrettable
It’s also wrong, and political, and inconsistent. If not, every other reef in the workd would be listed as “in danger”. But they’re not, are they. Could it be Australia is being punished because these unelected bureaucrats at the UN don’t like our climate policies and they’re using this listing as a big stick?🤔
Yeah, nah. I can’t find any coral reefs on this list.
https://whc.unesco.org/en/danger/
Yet not one of them besides the GBR is “in danger”. If climate change is global, how could that be?
https://ourworldindata.org/coral-reefs#coral-reefs-across-the-world
Yeah, nah. I can’t find any coral reefs on this list.
You mean. like the GBR isn’t … yet
But they are definitely watching others, and the outcome depends a lot on the actions taken
https://whc.unesco.org/en/decisions/2967/
But there is a coral attol on there already
https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/854
don’t like our climate policies
What fucken policies lol
If climate change is global, how could that be?
Probably because other regions are taking action that might alleviate the stress, as my link mentioned.
Meanwhile, we are expanding another coal port there ffs
Probably because other regions are taking action that might alleviate the stress, as my link mentioned.
According to Fanny Douvere, Australia has already spent $3 billion on the reef. I’ll guarantee you no one else has done anything near that.
More taxpayer rip offs … what happened to robodebt for the rich and provileged? Wesley just another bunch of hypocrites … rob the poor to feed the rich … Robber Barons at work – I see another Robber Baron mentioned too … the infamous Gerry …
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/24/melbourne-private-school-cut-fees-after-receiving-nearly-20m-in-jobkeeper
According to Fanny Douvere, Australia has already spent $3 billion on the reef.
Yea, but where has the money gone? Remember the famous $444 that went to mining executives. It’s action with tangible benefits they want, not more rorts and feeding taxpayer money into their mates back pocket.
More taxpayer rip offs
I’m sure if you collated all of the sweeteners private schools get, their taxpayer funded largesse would dwarf the public schools.
Ya talking to ME! TR …. 🤑 😏 🙄 😡 🤣🤣🤣