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Gladys Live at ICAC: The Live Stream event!

October 18, 2021

For those interested in watching the slow moving train wreck that is the ICAC proceedings of “unlucky in love” Gladys Berejiklian, you can tune in here:

https://www.icac.nsw.gov.au/investigations/live-streaming-of-public-inquiries/operation-keppel-live-stream

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  1. October 18, 2021 11:19 am

    John Barilaro has been named as a witness who will appear at the ICAC inquiry into the conduct of former NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian.

  2. October 18, 2021 12:13 pm

    It’s only day one and already there’s damning evidence against Gladys.

    ICAC hears the submission for funding for Wagga’s Clay Target Association was prepared in a day, which was ‘unusual’.

    There was ‘no risk analysis’ and an economic analysis that ‘didn’t stack up’. It was to attract ‘international tourism’ – ‘one event every 12 years’ that didn’t even have shooting as part of its program.

  3. October 18, 2021 12:15 pm

    Sports Director Michael Toohey says “a purported business case” was attached to an email on potential for funding for Wagga’s Australian Clay Target Association.

    “There wasn’t a project plan, nothing to substantiate the cost, it didn’t stack up.”

  4. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 18, 2021 12:58 pm

    The things we do for love!

    The NSW ministerial code of conduct definition of a family member includes “any person with whom the minister is in an intimate personal relationship”. Apparently rooting Maguire for five years doesn’t qualify as “intimate”.

    Gladys is doubtless relying on the “bag defence” i.e. the relationship can’t be intimate if he had to put a bag over her head to prevent total loss of erectile function. Actually, that probably cuts both ways.

  5. Tom R permalink
    October 18, 2021 1:14 pm

    Didn’t you spell IBAC wrong reb?

  6. October 18, 2021 1:15 pm

    “I didn’t know. I was in shock. I didn’t know what to think. I didn’t have enough detail, I hadn’t read what was happening. I can’t remember what I thought at that time.”

    Sounds legit. 🙄

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-18/gladys-berejiklian-did-not-suspect-daryl-maguire-of-corruption/100547024

  7. October 18, 2021 1:54 pm

    “I’m not asking whether you were sure”

    Gladys “I didn’t know”

    “I’m not asking whether you knew”

    Gladys “I didn’t know … I can’t remember”

    “Did you suspect”

    Gladys “I didn’t know”

    “I’m not asking whether you knew”

    Gladys “I didn’t know”

  8. Tom R permalink
    October 18, 2021 2:04 pm

    If she didn’t know, why was she in shock?

  9. October 18, 2021 2:23 pm

    If she didn’t know, why did she ask him to resign…??

  10. Tom R permalink
    October 18, 2021 2:31 pm

    The power couples “Dear John” letter 😉

  11. Tony permalink
    October 18, 2021 3:11 pm

    Gladys should just keep using the standard Daniel Andrews answer from the Coate Hotel Quarantine Inquiry: “I don’t recall” or “I can’t remember”.

  12. October 19, 2021 12:22 pm

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  13. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 19, 2021 2:52 pm

    Thieving Mongrel Miliagn steals $150,000 from taxpayers:

    The ABC had no internal “policy, precedent or process” that supported the decision to pay for the legal defence involving reporter Louise Milligan over the defamatory tweets she made about federal Liberal MP Andrew Laming that ended up costing the taxpayer more than $150,000, an ­investigation has found.

    “There is no documented advice … prepared to ­support the ­appropriateness of the decision to meet the costs of an employee,” commonwealth Auditor-General Grant Hehir said.

  14. Tom R permalink
    October 19, 2021 4:08 pm

    Thieving Mongrel Miliagn ….. ?????

    Probably because no politician has been thin skinned enough to sue before

  15. Tom R permalink
    October 19, 2021 4:42 pm

    Awks

    NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet as Treasurer was responsible for the $5.5 million Wagga Wagga gun club grant, which was green-stamped despite it being “unusual” and the NSW Office of Sport not wanting “any involvement” in the project, according to internal government emails.

    https://www.theklaxon.com.au/home/1-gaxaw

  16. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 19, 2021 4:50 pm

    ABC: we can’t control what Mongrel Miligan tweets on her personal twitter account..

    Also ABC: if Mongrel Miligan defames someone we will spend the public’s money defending her.

    Fucking thieves – the ABC is just a vehicle for theft of public funds to advance left-wing causes.

    The ABC would not spend money like that to support a conservative journalist but that issue is moot given that they do not employ any conservative journalists and never will so long as the current cabal of leftist lunatics controls the place.

  17. October 20, 2021 12:08 pm

    This is gold…!

    Gladys is finished!!

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  18. Tom R permalink
    October 20, 2021 2:11 pm

    “At very least, lets target our marginal seats” ???

  19. October 20, 2021 3:05 pm

    I know….! They’re not even embarrassed to broadcast it.

  20. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 20, 2021 3:15 pm

    It’s a wonder they didn’t use the money for branch stacking!

  21. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 20, 2021 4:21 pm

    “At very least, lets target our marginal seats”

    The Coalition is not good at rorting. You need to be deceitful. That is why Labor gets away with it. They cover their tracks better.

    But what is going on?? Nigel Blunden seems to think the shooting centre is a waste of money. So he says why spend $5.5M in a safe Coalition seat? Lets target a Labor marginal seat instead. Perhaps said in jest??

    So if the Coalition is spending money in a safe Coalition seat is their any rorting going on?? Perhaps there was some financial benefit for Gladys’s boyfriend???

  22. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 20, 2021 4:41 pm

    ICAC seems to be doing a good job getting to the bottom of this. Unlike the Mongrel Coate charade I suspect we are going to know who made the relevant decisions here.

    My only beef with ICAC is that they haven’t released the sex tape of Gladys and her beau.

  23. October 21, 2021 10:13 am

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  24. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 21, 2021 11:59 am

    Looks like the weather channel got some footage of Gladys:

  25. October 21, 2021 12:11 pm

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  26. TB Queensland permalink
    October 21, 2021 7:30 pm

    Gladys is finished!!

    Ya reckon? 🙄

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL! ICAC seems to be doing a good job getting to the bottom of this.

    Your area of expertise, splatterbottom

    (Had to explain it ib case other folk read it – no names)

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Finally – just how stupid (arrogant – ill informed – un-researched) are right wing American shock jocks?

    https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/conservative-host-candace-owens-calls-for-us-to-invade-australia-to-free-people-from-tyranny/news-story/9a487acac0dbafefaa0945d2aa7284cc

    I guess the same as Aussie RW shock jocks … (don’t know of any left wing shock jocks)

  27. October 21, 2021 8:34 pm

    I say there’s a gap in the market for some left wing shock jocks, can you imagine…

    “Have you seen the price of Zig Zags lately…? It’s a fkn disgrace…!”

    “But next up on the show, we’ll be interviewing Sharon from Deniliquin who’s turned her macrame making tea-cosy pastime into a loss-making home-based business serving the local air B&B industry.”

    “So Sharon, tell us – what’s the secret to your mediocrity?”

    (Actually, this could easily be the Prue Goward hour)..

  28. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 21, 2021 9:08 pm

    What is the allegation here?? Sounds like the Coalition are pork barreling their own seats.

    Normally the allegation is they are targeting marginal ALP seats. But Wagga is a safe Coalition seat.

    So is the allegation they wasted taxpayers money?? If so that is normal for any govt.

  29. October 23, 2021 10:59 pm

    Governments spend their own money. All legally acquired and allocated. To suggest otherwise indicates no understanding of ‘tense’ plus ignorance of Sections 81 and 83 of the Constitution.

    But the mentally challenged need their security blankets apparently.

  30. Tom R permalink
    October 23, 2021 11:45 pm

    All legally acquired and allocated.

    That’s the gnarly bit right there 😉

  31. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 24, 2021 7:30 am

    “All legally acquired and allocated.”

    From whom?

    Like the Soviet government legally acquired all private property?

    And was robodebt legally acquired or stolen from terrorised students?

  32. Tom R permalink
    October 24, 2021 2:06 pm

    And was robodebt legally acquired or stolen from terrorised students?

    The class action result showed it was the latter 😉

  33. October 26, 2021 10:04 am

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  34. October 28, 2021 11:30 am

    Maguire says he loved Berejiklian and she loved him. They stayed at both their houses; Maguire had a key to Berejiklian’s house. They went on holidays together. They contemplated marriage and having a child together. They were intimate…

  35. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 28, 2021 12:37 pm

    Is there anything more unappealing as a mental image than amorous politicians?

  36. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 28, 2021 1:19 pm

    “They contemplated marriage and having a child together. They were intimate…”

    I still think Gerbiliklian’s best shot is the bag defence.

    “Is there anything more unappealing as a mental image than amorous politicians?”

    I’d like to see George Christensen nude jelly wrestling with Clive Palmer!

  37. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 28, 2021 1:33 pm

    Yes, but that’s already a ticketed event in Manila

  38. October 28, 2021 2:57 pm

    “I’ll throw money at Wagga, don’t you worry about that,” Gladys is heard saying to Maguire on July 30, 2018.

    He also complains that Wagga needs a stadium but it’s not getting it. Gladys says she can overrule the bureaucrats.

  39. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 28, 2021 4:15 pm

    “Glad” to see such passionate support for rural NSW. A good root will bring that out in a person – inspire them to overrule bureaucrats even.

    “don’t you worry about that,”

    That was Jo Bonkers-Bananas’ favourite phrase.

  40. October 28, 2021 6:26 pm

    “A good root will bring that out in a person – inspire them to overrule bureaucrats even.”

    LOL..

    It’s Gladys’s turn to appear tomorrow. There’s not enough popcorn in the world for that one.. Today was entertaining enough with Daryl under the microscope.

  41. October 28, 2021 6:40 pm

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  42. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 29, 2021 10:53 am

    I wonder if Gladys does Long Bay Booty Call!

  43. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 29, 2021 11:14 am

    Gerbiliklian: “What I’m saying to you Mr Robertson is that every colleague has a different style and way of advocating …

    “If you look after the Wagga Shooters I’ll see you right with some hard doggy topped off with a Dirty Sanchez and a golden shower to clean you up!”

    Gerbiliklian: “…… and certainly all of my colleagues would have felt like they had access to me.”

    Gerbiliklian: “I would like all members of the party room to know that all of you have access to me on the same basis. Grants will be awarded on the basis of length, girth, vigour and oral skills. Women members feel free to go full Mary Strapons with me. No bags allowed”

  44. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 29, 2021 11:48 am

    Another series of wire taps are played. These have been heard at a previous hearing.

    In the first, Maguire says he is in $1.5m of debt and invites the premier to repeat that number. He then says the debt will be resolved soon.

    In the second, he says he’s finally got the “Badgery’s Creek stuff” resolved, which would help him pay off debt. That reference was to a land deal Maguire was seeking to make for the sale of land near the Western Sydney airport.

    He said he believed he could make a $1.5m commission from the sale.

    Robertson asks:

    “Did you suspect that Mr Maguire may have been or was engaged in corrupt conduct?”

    Berejiklian:

    “I did not.”

    She goes on:

    “I did not pay too much attention to that because he was always talking big and I didn’t pay much attention to it… I never thought he was doing anything untoward.

  45. October 29, 2021 11:49 am

    So far Gladys has blabbing…

    “I doubt I would’ve paid much attention”
    “I wasn’t listening”
    “It didn’t cross my mind”
    “I would have disregarded it”
    “I would have dismissed it”
    “I wouldn’t have taken it seriously”

    she’s really fucked if this is the defense she’s relying on

  46. October 29, 2021 3:02 pm

    “They could be taping my conversation with you right now, and you wouldn’t fucking know.”

    – Daryl Maguire on a recorded conversation with Gladys played at ICAC.

  47. Pat permalink
    October 29, 2021 3:32 pm

    We get the level of corruption we demand. Yet some are surprised.

  48. October 29, 2021 3:41 pm

    Phone intercept 1096 between Gladys and Daryl…

    Exhibit 320 *language warning*

    Maguire: “They’ve invited all these people to shake hands and suck dicks. They’re all that fucking shit scared of me now. Fuck them. They can get fucked. They better get off their fat arses and make something happen. “

  49. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 29, 2021 9:06 pm

    I hate these he said she said things. I do not have the time to study things like that.

    So what is the crime Gladys is accused of? Sounds like she let her heart rule her brain and got some money for a corrupt politician. So what is new??

    The thing with Coalition corruption is that they never get away with it and something good usually comes out of it. So Wagga got a $5M rifle club against Public Service advice??

    The difference between Coalition corruption and Labor corruption is that something good comes out of Coalition corruption and nothing good comes out of Labor corruption.

  50. Tom R permalink
    October 29, 2021 10:52 pm

  51. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 30, 2021 12:46 pm

    Apparently Macron chided Morrison about trust. Maybe someone should ask him exactly how many French youths have died defending Australia

  52. TB Queensland permalink
    October 30, 2021 3:05 pm

    Maybe someone should ask him … etc

    Ya think Aussie youths “defended France” … I think you’ll find Australians simply fought against the right wing German tyranny like everyone else in WW2

    WW1 the Aussies were stuck in trenches – they just happened to be in France …

    The issue here is Morrison’s sloppy approach to alliances, business and leadership, oh, and marketing …

    Bit like asking your mate to build a house and then another mate comes along and you sign a new contract one midnight (without telling anyone) for them to build the house when the foundations are laid … its about a contract agreement – not fkn soldiering in France … even though the original sub contract was fkn stupid Scotty again … balls up after balls up Morrison has managed to trash our reputation around the world in three years … what a fkn record …

    Our oil fuel supplies are “stored” in the USA … now the nuke subs will have their fuel stored in the USA … bit like Pommieland in the wars you mentioned … stupid is as stupid does …

  53. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 30, 2021 3:20 pm

    an impressively towering memorial was established at the top of the Villers-Bretonneux Military Cemetery to honour the Australian soldiers who fell in France
    The cemetery contains 2,000 graves, of which 779 are Australian.

  54. Pat permalink
    October 30, 2021 11:01 pm

    Fact is – ICACs castrate potent elected Members.

    Joh (without an ICAC) established an instant School (demountable classrooms delivered within days) which then provided employment for his teacher daughter-in-law. Oh how the locals cheered.

    Joan Sheldon (Liberal, Deputy Premier and Treasurer) shocked everyone including Premier Borbidge by paying out a toll road contract in her Budget so that her constituents could travel free of charge. Now there’s an annual celebration.

    Speaker Kev Lingard announced a brand new High School for Mount Tamborine which completely blindsided his Education Minister colleague and a whole Department. He now has the key to the mountain.

    Imagine what Gladys and her government might have achieved without an ICAC. Sadly she’s been cut down in her prime.

    No wonder other administrations are hesitant.

  55. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 31, 2021 4:21 pm

    “Fact is – ICACs castrate potent elected Members.”

    And IBACs?

  56. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 31, 2021 4:28 pm

    The next King of Australia:

  57. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 31, 2021 4:59 pm

    “They could be taping my conversation with you right now, and you wouldn’t fucking know.”

    That statement shows there is no privacy in this world anymore. Not sure how moral it is to be recording someones phone calls without their knowledge. Sometimes you may say something but not mean it.

  58. October 31, 2021 6:36 pm

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  59. October 31, 2021 6:42 pm

    “Imagine what Gladys and her government might have achieved without an ICAC. Sadly she’s been cut down in her prime.”

    This is true. She managed to find a quick $140 million (or was it $170 million?) for a Conservatorium of Music when Daryl cracked the shits. If she hadn’t “been cut down in her prime knows what they could’ve achieved, an Opera House for Wagga, a Harbour bridge for Wagga maybe…..??

    This whole “being held accountable” nonsense is just so unfair.

  60. Tom R permalink
    October 31, 2021 9:38 pm

    Maybe someone should ask him exactly how many French youths have died defending Australia

    That is nil level stupid yomm. But I’ve come to expect it of you lately 😦

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadliest_single_days_of_World_War_I#Western_Front

  61. Tom R permalink
    October 31, 2021 9:40 pm

    This whole “being held accountable” nonsense is just so unfair.

    Isn’t it wholly dependent on which political party you are with?

  62. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 1, 2021 7:31 am

    You mean they breathalyzed Tim Smith? WTF? Oh, I get it he’s not married to the Stariman, not ALP and this is Victoria!

  63. Tom R permalink
    November 1, 2021 11:38 am

  64. Tom R permalink
    November 1, 2021 11:40 am

    So, Macron has called our pm a liar on the international stage. Can it get worst?

    Probably 😦

  65. Tom R permalink
    November 1, 2021 11:52 am

    I’m not sure how Dan Andrews is going to explain THIS away!

  66. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 1, 2021 1:35 pm

    It’s interesting that “teh left” are red hot for showing ID for going to a shop or a restaurant, but so vehemently against showing ID for voting

  67. Dianne permalink
    November 1, 2021 2:09 pm

    Tom why do you dislike Aborigines and want to keep them from voting?

  68. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 1, 2021 2:41 pm

    “So, Macron has called our pm a liar on the international stage. Can it get worst?”

    Macron is facing a tough election so he his playing macho man to Morrison and other world leaders.

    Decent thoughtful Australians would at least wait for some details of the alleged “lie” before rushing to side with Macron. Mongrels more interested in cheap political advantage will cash in. They did it last time when the lying Frog Ambassador falsely accused us. They got egg on their faces then but they just keep on trolling. No wonder people hate politics and the vacuous drones (on both sides) who can’t think beyond today’s talking points.

  69. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 1, 2021 2:42 pm

    Dianne why do you want election fraud?

  70. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 1, 2021 2:43 pm

    Or, why do you dislike Aborigines and want to keep them from eating?

  71. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 1, 2021 2:52 pm

    Really Dianne, I’m sure that with allthe regulations now around covid, vaccination, welfare, tax, employment etc, there is no particular demographic that doesn’t have ample id
    I don’t see anyone saying the covid restrictions are preventing indigenous people from going to the shop

  72. Tom R permalink
    November 1, 2021 3:12 pm

    It’s interesting that “teh left” are red hot for showing ID for going to a shop or a restaurant, but so vehemently against showing ID for voting

    One is for health concerns, the other is deny people their rights.

    Dianne why do you want election fraud?

    Are you able to show the details of how big an issue voter fraud is in this cuntry?

  73. Tom R permalink
    November 1, 2021 3:14 pm

    A helpful ….. what’s the word I’m looking for here yomm? Either way, hope it helps splats 😉

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-28/voter-id-laws-to-require-proof-could-disenfranchise-vulnerable/100575812

  74. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 1, 2021 3:16 pm

    “health concerns”
    lol
    That is TB level stupid. But I’ve come to expect it of you lately

  75. Tom R permalink
    November 1, 2021 3:21 pm

    It works when it’s correct yomm, it just sounds like another level of stupid when you copy it 😉

    btw, that other comment about the French WAS extremely stupid, especially when you consider the sacrifices they had already made when we got there

  76. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 1, 2021 3:27 pm

    The ALP ‘vote early, vote often’ election strategy is to blame. If they weren’t such a bunch of crooks we wouldn’t need these laws. Seriously, a mob who is happy to steal public resources for branch-stacking has no compunction about stealing elections. No wonder they oppose measures to limit their election fraud.

  77. Tom R permalink
    November 1, 2021 3:28 pm

    So, you got nothing have ya splats, except more meaningless drivel shit

  78. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 1, 2021 3:32 pm

    At some point there will be a very close election, and a couple of seats will be decided by a handful of votes.
    Tom R would prefer to wait until everyone is blaming each other for voter fraud or irregularities, and disputing the result

  79. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 1, 2021 3:33 pm

    And…it’s entertaining that Tom R thinks being compared to TB is disparagement!

  80. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 1, 2021 3:45 pm

    “So, you got nothing”

    You’re the one catastrophising the commonplace requirement of ID. Quoting various Labor stooges in support doesn’t prove anything.

  81. Tom R permalink
    November 1, 2021 3:47 pm

    At some point there will be a very close election

    You mean, like the one Gillard beat abbott in? That one? That they took weeks to decide on?

    And seats are often recounted, it happened last election. It’s never been a problem, but I get the feeling there is going to be an uptick this time around 😉

    it’s entertaining that Tom R thinks being compared to TB is disparagement!

    It’s just plain dumb when you copy everything but one word, and think that’s what I’m talking about. [facepalm]

  82. Tom R permalink
    November 1, 2021 3:49 pm

    You’re the one catastrophising the commonplace requirement of ID

    No I’m not, experts in the field are. (pro tip, the text that is a different colour, that’s underlined on hover, you can click it)

  83. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 1, 2021 3:54 pm

    “Tom R thinks being compared to TB is disparagement!”

    He does have a point.

    Tom R knows he is trolling and is a master of the art. TB appears to genuinely believe the garbage he spouts and is totally unwilling to admit even the most ridiculous mistakes he makes.

    In a sense they represent different types of ALP shill. Tom R is a slippery troll never telling more than half the truth. TB, on the other hand, is a pompous old curmudgeon slowly slipping into senility.

  84. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 1, 2021 3:56 pm

    “experts” Well that proves it, doesn’t it?

  85. Tom R permalink
    November 1, 2021 4:03 pm

    “experts” Well that proves it, doesn’t it?

    No, but it carries more weight than some angry old fart typing shit on a keyboard in his diapers

  86. Tom R permalink
    November 1, 2021 4:04 pm

    This is a fair question

    A better one is, why didn’t we just make them here, but …. Unions = BOO!

  87. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 1, 2021 4:05 pm

    I have no real opinion on whether we need ID to vote but i find it strange the ALP/Greens are against ID for voting. That makes me think they know it would be bad for Labor if ID was needed

  88. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 1, 2021 4:06 pm

    No” My point exactly.

  89. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 1, 2021 4:10 pm

    “This is a fair question”

    It’s not a question. It is a very stupid statement from one of our most unlovely politicians. It is also about another stupid and unlovely politician, the vain old cat-strangler who got us into this mess in the first place merely to save the mincing poodle’s arse.

  90. Tom R permalink
    November 1, 2021 4:17 pm

    No” My point exactly.

    You had a point?

    It is a very stupid statement

    Why?

  91. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 1, 2021 4:28 pm

    “Why?”

    It was typical Oakshott – shallow ramblings of a delusional narcissist. He could have offered some reflection on whether it was a good decision in the first place, whether the French were on time and within budget to deliver the subs or whether they had serious technical difficulties or whether the circumstances had changed and whether those subs were still the best option for Australia.

  92. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 1, 2021 4:38 pm

    It’s the science…..

  93. Tom R permalink
    November 1, 2021 4:44 pm

    He could have offered some reflection on whether it was a good decision in the first place

    I think you’ll find he was pretty vocally against it.

    But that doesn’t change the question. The other points you raise ‘may’ provide a clue, but nobody has answered it. And, considering the ‘mericans have been proven to worst than the French were at keeping to times and costs, it kinda makes them moot.

    In fact, the best ones for time and cost were …. ours

    So. Why?

  94. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 1, 2021 4:54 pm

    Tom R, it seems to me that the new alliance is probably a good thing given the rise of aggressive Chinese imperialism. I don’t think we should be getting subs at all but, unless we are prepared to develop our own defence system, we will have to compromise to gain an alliance with friendly countries.

  95. Tom R permalink
    November 1, 2021 4:57 pm

    we will have to compromise to gain an alliance with friendly countries.

    Even if it means pissing off another ally? (and quite possibly the very one we are trying to ingratiate ourselves with?)

  96. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 1, 2021 5:04 pm

    “Even if it means pissing off another ally? “

    Yeah – that choice was fairly clear-cut.

    The French were never going to take this well. I doubt Morrison lied to them but he was probably guarded pending finalisation of the details of the AUKUS alliance. At this stage we don’t know what was said.

  97. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 9:30 am

    The French were never going to take this well

    Breaking up is hard to do, especially with tact and grace, something this mob don’t even believe in.

    At this stage we don’t know what was said.

    Yes we do, and we also know what wasn’t said. They said there were. Funnily enough, the issue was around our specifications, not the French. We also know that we did not advise them that we were cancelling the contract.

    This also leaves us wide open to reparations

  98. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 2, 2021 9:38 am

    “Yes we do”

    Quote it then.

  99. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 9:51 am

    Quote it then.

    “Should I expect good or bad news for our joint submarine ambitions?,’’

    That’s a question from somebody in the dark, who is smelling a rat.

    https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/emmanuel-macron-has-accused-scott-morrison-of-leaking-private-texts/news-story/3a00d15df814b821d3bbcc0149cbe915

  100. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 2, 2021 9:58 am

    That is a quote from Macron, not a lie from Morrison.

    Your link noted that the released text undermined the old Granny-fucker’s claim that Morrison lied to him.

  101. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 10:57 am

    That is a quote from Macron, not a lie from Morrison.

    Yes, so what. It’s all we’ve got. If morrison had told him, why not release that, instead of leaking private messages from someone smelling a rat?

    Your link noted that the released text undermined the old Granny-fucker’s claim that Morrison lied to him.

    How? It confirms that he knew something was up, but until we hear something different, it’s just guess from Macrons end, who was looking for confirmation, but wasn’t receiving any.

    You think a deal like morrison was doing wouldn’t have got back, in dome form, to the French?

    The question, the lie, is, did morrison tell him they were cancelling, not did Macron smell a rat.

  102. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 11:29 am

    The guy just cannot stop lying. He tries to defend his lying, by lying that Macron called Australians liars, not him. Macron very pointedly called morrison a liar, not us.

    We’re just the dumb fucks that voted the lying prick in

  103. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 2, 2021 12:47 pm

    And haven’t the French been helpful in our region!

  104. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 1:05 pm

    And haven’t the French been helpful in our region!

    That’s a wonderfully meaningless statement yomm. Perhaps you need some …. links 🙂

    https://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/france/france-country-brief

  105. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 1:08 pm

    Anyone worked out who hacked morrisons phone yet?

  106. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 2, 2021 1:37 pm

    Yes, letting off nuclear bombs, Vanuatu uprising, Rainbow Warrior.
    France singlehandedly made New Zealand into its enemy

  107. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 2, 2021 1:49 pm

    New Caledonia uprising

  108. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 1:52 pm

    Yor defense of morrison lying to a world leader is ‘which cuntry is the biggest asshole’

    Not sure that’s a road you want to head down to be honest 😉

  109. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 2:01 pm

    #LiarFromTheShire has morphed into #DiplomaticDisaster

  110. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 2, 2021 2:24 pm

    I’m suggesting that a little perspective is required before we do too much handwriting about French sensitivities

  111. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 2, 2021 2:28 pm

    Macron tells bald-faced lie about Morrison. Transcript outing the Granny-fucking frog as the actual liar in all this becomes public.

    Leftist cunts everywhere melt down. Bwahahahaha!

  112. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 2:59 pm

    Macron tells bald-faced lie about Morrison

    What lie?

    We all know now that morrison never did tell Macron he was cancelling the deal before he announced the US one. What lie did Macron say?

  113. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 3:02 pm

    I’m suggesting that a little perspective is required

    morrison snuck around behind Macrons back arranging another deal, while continuing to have the French invest time and dollars into getting what they thought Australia wanted.

    Is that perspective enough?

  114. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 2, 2021 3:03 pm

    “I don’t think, I know.”

  115. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 2, 2021 3:11 pm

    “morrison snuck around behind Macrons back arranging another deal”

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

    Who ever heard of alliances being negotiated in private by the prospective partners! What a fanciful idea!

  116. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 2, 2021 3:16 pm

    I haven’t seen this much faux outrage since Keating called Mongrel Mahathir ‘recalcitrant’.

  117. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 3:22 pm

    “I don’t think, I know.”

    Even the texts morrison leaked (from private conversations mind you) show that Macron is correct. He clearly didn’t know what was going , but knew that something was.

    Who ever heard of alliances being negotiated in private by the prospective partners!
    We could have negotiated them in private with the US, but we should have told France that we were cancelling theirs

    They found out via the US/\aus announcement. That’s just inept, and abusive to our relationship with them.

  118. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 2, 2021 3:24 pm

    Yeah! The French were late and costly/over budget outmoded equipment
    No wonder they were surprised! What on earth possessed Australia to look elsewhere!
    And particularly France, with their rich history of flawless diplomacy

  119. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 3:38 pm

    Yeah! The French were late and costly/over budget outmoded equipment

    They were our specifications ffs ROFL

    And, we could have cancelled for ANY of those reasons.

    we didn’t, we cancelled because we saw something else whiny and new

  120. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 3:59 pm

    This paints a terrible picture

    On the same day that the French submarine deal collapsed, the Defence Department sent Naval Group a letter saying it was satisfied with the company’s performance. To cap it off, Gillian Bird, Australia’s ambassador to France, stressed the decision to axe Naval Group “in no way reflects on the powers of the Naval Group and the French defence industry, which are recognised worldwide as market leaders”.

    These public statements at the time rang hollow because anyone even remotely plugged into Canberra knew Morrison and Defence Minister Peter Dutton were increasingly worried about the company’s performance. But the government went ahead and told the public the opposite.

    We don’t know what the apparent problems with Naval Group were because Morrison and Dutton haven’t really said. What we do know is that at Senate estimates last week, Rear Admiral Gregory Sammut said the program had not suffered any cost blowouts. He also said Naval Group had presented an affordable and acceptable offer to proceed to the next phase of the design contract.

    https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/slurs-lies-and-sledges-is-macron-or-morrison-telling-the-whole-story-20211102-p5953y.html

  121. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 4:03 pm

    And

    Instead, Morrison’s explosive September 16 move, which blindsided France, means Australia has exercised a “termination for convenience” clause – in a move which is expected to cost Australia hundreds of millions of dollars more in additional fees, charges and penalties.

    Termination for convenience clauses are common in construction contracts, however they are infrequently used because they expose the terminating party to large costs and damages.

    Morrison’s decision to sensationally blind-side France, rather than exit the deal contractually over ongoing delivery failures, is set to be heavily exploited by Naval Group which has indicated it will aggressively pursue compensation.

    https://www.theklaxon.com.au/home/pms-naive-sub-deal-bungling-to-cost-dearly

  122. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 2, 2021 4:34 pm

    “He clearly didn’t know what was going”

    Clearly.

    Your faux outrage is hilarious.

  123. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 4:55 pm

    It’s not my outrage we need to worry about, it’s the French.

    He really is an incompetent buffoon, and he’s dragging all of us down with him

    Anyway, you haven’t cleared up what Lie Macron apparently told. It’s clear the French were left in the dark. He was correct on that front.

  124. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 5:07 pm

  125. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 2, 2021 5:09 pm

    “It’s not my outrage we need to worry about, it’s the French”

    The French outrage is entirely confected for domestic consumption. Macron is carrying on like a flustered drag queen.

    It is not as though we’ve blown up their fucking boat and killed someone like they did to the Kiwis.

    All we’ve done is terminate a contract in accordance with its terms. Unlike Stairman Dan who terminated a contract by breaching its terms and stole a billion from Victorians to pay for his breach.

  126. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 2, 2021 5:10 pm

    Macron is intent on punishing Australia. Fuck him.

  127. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 5:24 pm

    is entirely confected

    Except of course for the little fact that morrison lied about a multi billion dollar contract to them.

    in accordance with its terms.

    lol, we’ll find out sooner or later if that is true

    The SPA is secret, but an auditor general’s report has revealed it contains “off ramps”, or “exit gates” – points at which Australia could withdraw from the contract in the event of poor performance. What is not clear is what happens if that withdrawal is because of a preference for a different deal instead of a failure by Naval Group to deliver specific outcomes.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/29/australia-tore-up-french-submarine-contract-for-convenience-naval-group-says

  128. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 2, 2021 6:25 pm

    https://www.france24.com/en/

    Wow! The tiff with Australia sure is big news in France.

  129. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 6:41 pm

  130. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 2, 2021 6:55 pm

    Stupid, of course it’s reported, you’ll find it every part of the media. It will be in the LA Times.
    But it’s not a top story.
    You know, the ones at the top that people are interested in

  131. TB Queensland permalink
    November 2, 2021 8:06 pm

    We’re just the dumb fucks that voted the lying prick in

    Not me. But if the lying, incompetent, smug, church going prick is voted in again we’re all well and truly fucked … End of Days here we come … allelujah!

    Blood and death upon you sinners and non believers … for Scotty shall reap the rewards!!

  132. Tom R permalink
    November 2, 2021 9:53 pm

    But it’s not a top story.

    lol yomm, the contract break was weeks ago. As for saying he lied to him, that’s been common knowledge over there since that.

    It’s news here, because it’s OUR character he’s trashing, not theirs.

    And when I say ‘our’ character, pretty sure yor not included 😉

    Hallelujah indeed TB 😉

  133. ivi permalink
    November 3, 2021 5:32 am

    (Wow! The tiff with Australia sure is big news in France.

    Indeed, the little-big ‘national interest’ tiff is central to Macron’s imminent re-election prospects, says Dutto…(not) of Morrison’s performances, at COP26’s The Plan’s The Australian Way’s big day(ze) out showcase.

    It’s almost on a par, perhaps, with Our Poorlean’s just popping-up to take hyper-‘Ocker’ credit — much-improving on the Nat’s usual bargaining standards of umming-and-ahhing for much, much more than seventeen days over the details of doing less than the bare minimum in return for that’s-for-us-to-know-and-youse-lot-not-to-find-out — for (at best, unnecessary, and, more likely, effectively vote-suppressing, and therefore democratically-harmful) ‘voter id’ laws, in what is otherwise expected to be a close election, among an, um, crowded field of alt-‘Liberals’ (yes, looking at you Clive & Co, oh, and maybe Mr X redux, and, err, not you, pesky Rex).

    Or something like that.)

  134. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 3, 2021 7:29 am

    ” the contract break”

    What term of what contract was broken?

  135. Tom R permalink
    November 3, 2021 9:44 am

    What term of what contract was broken?

    A good question, so perhaps if I put the answer up again, you can read it again …. slowly this time?

    “The SPA is secret, but an auditor general’s report has revealed it contains “off ramps”, or “exit gates” – points at which Australia could withdraw from the contract in the event of poor performance. What is not clear is what happens if that withdrawal is because of a preference for a different deal instead of a failure by Naval Group to deliver specific outcomes.”

    I find it interesting that they grubmint are making a lot of noise about cost blowouts and time overruns, but that wasn’t the reason they gave the French.

    Which brings us back to that Klaxon article

    “Termination for convenience clauses are common in construction contracts, however they are infrequently used because they expose the terminating party to large costs and damages.

    Whether ditching the deal was right or wrong is moot at this point. The issue was the manner in which it was done. Nobody can seriously argue it was handled well (That’s yor cue yomm). The further question is, how MUCH did our pm mislead their President by?

  136. Tom R permalink
    November 3, 2021 9:48 am

    Astride The Worlds Stage lolz

  137. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 3, 2021 10:05 am

    That’s a long winded way of saying – I don’t know

  138. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 3, 2021 10:09 am

    “A good question, so perhaps if I put the answer up again, you can read it again …. slowly this time?”

    Why did you bother? Your quote does not even assert that any contractual term was broken much less specify what that term was.

    The I-G report does not say the contract was broken. And the Klaxon propaganda is laughable – speaking about what provisions generally might be included in construction contracts (itself a broad and varied category) tells us nothing about the specifics of the contract with the French company.

    Your earlier reference to the breaking of a contract is at best agenda-driven speculation. You have no proof of it at all. Just statements like “What is not clear is….” and vague generalities.

    There are things to criticise about Morriscum’s handling of this. Why not stick to established facts instead of making things up and destroying your own credibility?

  139. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 3, 2021 10:12 am

    So, going back to my original question, Tom R, perhaps you can answer it this time: What term of what contract was broken?

  140. Tom R permalink
    November 3, 2021 10:57 am

    Your quote does not even assert that any contractual term was broken much less specify what that term was.

    Oh, it says what they say it was, they say it was ‘for convenience’ . So are they lying? They are the ones getting ready to sue us. We, instead, just keep leaking stuff, changing our story, and being more duplicitous. And throwing our new friends under the bus too.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/29/australia-tore-up-french-submarine-contract-for-convenience-naval-group-says

    We won’t know for until it’s settled through the courts. Why did it need to get to this?
    malcum reckons he knows 😉

  141. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 3, 2021 11:31 am

    “We won’t know for until it’s settled through the courts.

    Epic failure to answer the question. Again. Just an admission that you don’t know. But don’t let that stop you. You undermine your credible arguments by accompanying them with lies.

  142. Tom R permalink
    November 3, 2021 11:44 am

    Again. Just an admission that you don’t know.

    You mean, with statements like

    “Oh, it says what they say it was,”

    or

    “we’ll find out sooner or later”

    nobody except those in the room know for certain

    But we do know we broke the contract, we just don’t know the reason yet. The French have said they know. The Australians have said several things, but seem hesitant to sit on one.

    It could have been through a gateway, it could have been through a very expensive gateway, but break it we did.

    And we didn’t tell them, which is the issue atm (the actual break cost will come later)

    I also wonder at the cost down the road of behavior. Nobody will trust us anymore, no matter what gateway we used to break the deal.

  143. Tom R permalink
    November 3, 2021 11:48 am

    hmm, so now his defense about him not lying is …. he had to lie?

  144. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 3, 2021 2:41 pm

    “But we do know we broke the contract”

    We do? How so? You just said: “nobody except those in the room knows for certain”

    You do understand that breaching a contract involves doing something not permitted or not doing something required under the terms of a contract. Not renewing or not extending or not signing a new contract for the next phase is not a breach unless there is some obligation to do so.

    The French, cheered on by ALP types, are behaving very badly, hysterical prima donnas that they are. They are just upset they are not going to rob the Australian people of $90 billion for the useless subs Turdball ordered.

  145. Tom R permalink
    November 3, 2021 3:00 pm

    You do understand that breaching a contract involves doing something not permitted

    I said broke, not breach.

    You can legally break a contract, that’s why it has clauses?

    Perhaps that’s the issue here, break != breach?

  146. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 3, 2021 3:25 pm

    “Perhaps that’s the issue here, break != breach?”

    That is a distinction without a difference.

    A bilateral contract (which is what we are dealing with here) is a set of legally binding promises made by the parties and contained in the terms of the contract. Performing a contract in accordance with its terms is not the same as breaking a contract.

    If a contract expires and is not extended, renewed or replaced it is not broken.

    As noted above, a contract is a set of obligations placed on the parties. If they perform those obligations the contract is not broken.

    A contract is broken where a party fails to perform any of the binding promises it has made.

    The French have a case of disappointed expectations. They hoped Australia would renew and are disappointed that we did not. That is not breaking any contractual obligation at all.

    You have been unable to show any term of the contract that was broken hence the contract was not broken. A contract is merely the sum of its terms.

  147. Tom R permalink
    November 3, 2021 3:32 pm

    That is a distinction without a difference.

    I’m just saying what the papers are sayin’

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/29/australia-tore-up-french-submarine-contract-for-convenience-naval-group-says

    Under the SPA, Australia will pay a “break fee” to Naval Group, but company is also planning to seek further compensation.

  148. Tom R permalink
    November 3, 2021 4:03 pm

    The guy lies to Macron, leaks his personal messages, then tells him to move on from it. we really are going further and further into the quagmire with this idiot abroad

  149. Tom R permalink
    November 3, 2021 4:06 pm

    Musical Interlude

  150. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 3, 2021 5:12 pm

    “The guy lies to Macron”

    What lie did he tell?

    The hysterical granny-rooter should apologise for calling Morrison a liar. After that it was perfectly proper for Morrison to leak information to the contrary. Macron should apologise but he won’t he is playing this for domestic political advantage and the ALP and their media shills and their grubby little trolls are siding with the lying frog for their own political advantage.

  151. Tom R permalink
    November 3, 2021 5:14 pm

    What lie did he tell?

    That Macron knew the Subs contract was being broken before the announcement was made for our new one. I’m not sure why this is so difficult for you to grasp

    What lie did Macron tell as you claimed?

  152. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 3, 2021 5:31 pm

    “I’m not sure why this is so difficult for you to grasp

    Could be I’m not up to speed. Perhaps you could quote the exact words of Morrison that you say constitutes a lie?

  153. Tom R permalink
    November 3, 2021 6:35 pm

    Perhaps you could quote the exact words of Morrison that you say constitutes a lie?

    Since this has gone on behind closed doors, no, I can’t. But the timeline of events show that we lied to them

    A high-level French diplomat said that during a June meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron, Morrison was evasive when asked whether Australia was considering switching to nuclear-powered submarines — a major impetus for Australia’s pact with the U.S. and Britain.

    France also points to an August 30 joint statement from French and Australian defense and foreign affairs ministers that stressed the “importance” of the existing submarine deal.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/australia-france-scott-morrison-submarine-contract-national-interest/

    Plus the reems of links from the thread from when this broke. We may have raised concerns, bit at no point did we flag anything about cancelling it. And the evasiveness from morrison back in June shows he wasn’t telling him the truth when asked pointedly about the nuclear option.

    A lie isn’t as simple as ‘no Carbon Tax’, which, as we all now know, was never even a lie.

    But telling someone that everything is fine, and to continue to go ahead, while all the time planning to leave, is a massive lie, and deserves the French condemnation.

  154. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 3, 2021 8:05 pm

    “no, I can’t.”

    Didn’t think so.

  155. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 3, 2021 8:54 pm

    I think I mentioned…it’s time for Macron to get over it. The French have short memories, so remind them-
    * Practicing dropping nuclear bombs in the Pacific
    * Creating the New Caledonia uprising debacle
    * Engaging in state sponsored terrorism in a friendly country, with the bombing of the Rainbow Warrior.
    * The murder that resulted
    * Single handedly disrupting ANZUS
    Such a proud record of diplomacy in the Pacific

  156. Tom R permalink
    November 3, 2021 9:27 pm

    “President Macron and I have a very, very open and very transparent, and very friendly relationship where we can speak candidly to each other about these issues,” Morrison said on 16 June.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/nov/02/why-is-emmanuel-macron-so-upset-with-scott-morrison
    lie

    This text was submitted as evidence that Macron’s outrage – the accusations about lying and Australia stabbing France in the back – were entirely confected, because the president knew all along the French contract was about to be dumped.

    Actually, the message confirmed exactly the opposite.

    lie
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/03/the-macron-spat-over-aukus-submarines-has-taught-world-leaders-a-lot-about-scott-morrison

    Is this a lie? 🙂

  157. Tom R permalink
    November 3, 2021 9:29 pm

    Such a proud record of diplomacy in the Pacific

    Ask East Timor. You really don’t want to go down this road yomm

  158. Tom R permalink
    November 3, 2021 9:42 pm

    Everything Is Awesome

  159. Tom R permalink
    November 3, 2021 9:48 pm

    21 – Both sides committed to deepen defence industry cooperation and enhance their capability edge in the region. Ministers underlined the importance of the Future Submarine program. They agreed to strengthen military scientific research cooperation through a strategic partnership between the Defence Science and Technology Group and the Directorate General for Armaments.

    https://www.foreignminister.gov.au/minister/marise-payne/media-release/inaugural-australia-france-22-ministerial-consultations

    Less than 2 weeks later, we announced the deal with the US and UK

  160. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 3, 2021 10:20 pm

    Now you have gone full dropkick drongo, Tom R. You think that because the usual dumb leftist suspects are siding with the granny-rooter normal people actually give a shit.

    The big-picture is that Australia is much better off with AUKUS and being rid of the stupid deal dumb mongrel Turdball got us into.

  161. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 3, 2021 10:27 pm

    France engaged in state sponsored terrorism, authorised by their president, against a friendly nation.
    And they did this because some people in the Pacific wanted them to stop setting off nuclear weapons nearby.
    That’s their record, and people should remind them of it

  162. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 3, 2021 10:36 pm

    “That’s their record, and people should remind them of it”

    True. But the ALP and their dumb shills are not going to do that anytime soon.

  163. Tom R permalink
    November 4, 2021 9:19 am

    The big-picture is that Australia is much better off with AUKUS and being rid of the stupid deal dumb mongrel Turdball got us into.

    That was the libs doing, in fact, morrison was deep in on it. I’m very sure that normal people actually give a shit about our elected leader lying to other elected leaders, and then trashing OUR brand around the world.

    murdochs minions will be digging deep to get him out of this hole

    But the ALP and their dumb shills are not going to do that anytime soon.

    No, they should be reminding them to look into their own glass houses before casting stones.

    Australia engaged in supporting our enemy, and all for the loot. Keep throwing the same rock yomm, cos theirs a veritable village of glasshouses sitting right here.

    So, splats, what lie do think Macron has told? 🙂

  164. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 4, 2021 9:37 am

    Remind them too that a over a third of the French electorate prefered their version of Pauline Hanson to Macron

  165. Tom R permalink
    November 4, 2021 10:39 am

    Look what we voted in ffs yomm

    LOOK o-o Over Here lol

  166. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 4, 2021 11:37 am

    Do you really think the Australian government looks anything like the national front?
    One of my retirement plans was to spend a month or two in France each year. I only got to do that once, so I hope this tiff is still percolating away in 6 months so that I can discuss it directly with people there!

  167. Tom R permalink
    November 4, 2021 11:41 am

    Do you really think the Australian government looks anything like the national front?

    Are they full of science denying, sky fairy fearing rape apologists?

  168. Tom R permalink
    November 4, 2021 11:50 am

  169. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 4, 2021 12:26 pm

    Are you familiar with the National Front? Bizarre.
    And a third of France preferred that pack of racist Nazi nutcases to Macron.
    I’m really hoping the tiff continues! You’re providing me with some training for the exchanges in 6 or 7 months

  170. Tom R permalink
    November 4, 2021 12:58 pm

    And a third of France preferred that pack of racist Nazi nutcases to Macron

    Look what we voted in ffs yomm

    LOOK o-o Over Here lol

  171. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 4, 2021 1:04 pm

    “””” Australia engaged in supporting our enemy, and all for the loot.””

    TomR

    What are you talking about??

  172. Tom R permalink
    November 4, 2021 1:55 pm

    AWB oil-for-wheat nil

  173. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 4, 2021 2:15 pm

    TomR

    What??

    We have been selling wheat to Iraq for over 100 years. We were legally selling wheat to Iraq under the Oil for Food program. Hundreds of countries were selling food to Iraq under that scheme run by the UN.

    “””””””The Oil-for-Food Programme (OIP), established by the United Nations in 1995 (under UN Security Council Resolution 986)[1] was established to allow Iraq to sell oil on the world market in exchange for food, medicine, and other humanitarian needs for ordinary Iraqi citizens without allowing Iraq to boost its military capabilities.”””””””

  174. Tom R permalink
    November 4, 2021 2:16 pm

    Apparently being duplicitous isn’t good. I do like the way the msm try to make it out like it’s France who are being the assholes here. So typical

  175. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 4, 2021 2:20 pm

    Suggesting the government here is anything like the National Front in France, is exceptionally ignorant
    Even for someone cloistered in ALP wankville

  176. Tom R permalink
    November 4, 2021 2:36 pm

    So

    Our PM Lies to the French President over breaking a multi billion dollar contract with them that HE fought for
    LEAKS that Presidents private text messages to the world media to try and prove he didn’t lie, when all it does it support the case against him.
    LEAKS a 15 page US government document to embarrass President Joe Biden because ….???

    And yomm wants to focus on a party that isn’t in government in France. One who sounds a lot like our nazi loving mob of wankers back here

  177. Tom R permalink
    November 4, 2021 4:02 pm

    TRIFECTA!

  178. November 4, 2021 6:23 pm

    “ALP wankville”

    You cunts have got to be kidding.

    Tim Smith
    Barnaby Joyce
    Christian Porter
    Bridget McKenzie
    Scott Morrison
    George Christensen
    Gladys Berejiklian
    Daryl Maguire

    The list of scandal-ridden incompetent morons at the LNP is endless yet your partisan swipes are reserved exclusively for Labor.

    Pathetic, but amusing nevertheless.

  179. Tom R permalink
    November 4, 2021 6:28 pm

    “Pathetic, but amusing nevertheless.”

    🙂

    I wonder if any of them has recently penned a 1400 word oped on facebook recently?

  180. November 4, 2021 10:43 pm

    TIM SMITH: “I had a few glasses of wine, yeah.”
    NEIL MITCHELL: “But a few isn’t 0.13 That’s a few bottles.
    TIM SMITH: “I certainly didn’t have a few bottles, I’m sorry, I certainly didn’t.”
    NEIL MICHELL: But 0.13 is not just a few glasses. Do you accept that?
    SMITH: “Absolutely.”

  181. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 5, 2021 8:09 am

    If only the exchanges here were full of those from ALP wankville
    * Morrison is a tool
    * Yeah,
    * Frydenberg is a tool
    * Yeah, so is Barnaby
    * Yeah
    * Albo’s great
    * Yeah

  182. November 5, 2021 8:44 am

    Isn’t about time to just move on YoM?

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  183. November 5, 2021 8:45 am

    And I don’t think I’ve ever said Albo’s great, quite the contrary in fact – although I’d be happy for you to prove me wrong.

  184. November 5, 2021 9:07 am

    Meanwhile…

    “My mum can’t even get a book from the library”… boo-hoo.

    And…

    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”
    “Dan Andrews is an arsehole”
    “Yeah..!”

  185. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 5, 2021 9:26 am

    Fascinating, we should just overlook the fact the the government that has been in charge of the world’s longest lockdown is facing 58 charges over its hotel quarantine debacle.
    But…
    * It’s not the Dan’s fault
    * No
    * It’s Scomo’s fault
    * Yeah! And Joshy, and look over there! A little town in some remote part of South America was in lockdown for a long time too!
    * Yeah! And months and months and months and months and months isn’t that long
    * No

  186. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2021 10:42 am

    the government that has been in charge of the world’s longest lockdown

    LINK!

  187. November 5, 2021 10:45 am

    Fascinating, we should just overlook the fact the the government that has created a diplomatic rift with China impacting our exporters, lied to France, become an embarrassing laughing stock at Cop26 and is scandal ridden with corruption and an alleged rapist still serving in the govt with a secret millionaire backer he refuses to disclose.

    Not to mention the quarantine debacle (where even are those quarantine facilities BTW?) or the vaccine stroll out… Which if the govt had ordered enuff in the first place we wouldn’t have had ongoing prolonged lockdowns…

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  188. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2021 10:46 am

  189. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2021 10:48 am

    Fascinating, we should just overlook the fact the the government that has created a diplomatic rift with China impacting our exporters, lied to France, become an embarrassing laughing stock at Cop26 and is scandal ridden with corruption and an alleged rapist still serving in the govt with a secret millionaire backer he refuses to disclose.

    Not to mention the quarantine debacle (where even are those quarantine facilities BTW?) or the vaccine stroll out… Which if the govt had ordered enuff in the first place we wouldn’t have had ongoing prolonged lockdowns…

    But DAN!

  190. November 5, 2021 10:53 am

    But my mum’s library book…!

  191. November 5, 2021 11:29 am

    Scott’s week so far:
    – called a liar by a world leader
    – leaked private text messages from a world leader
    – backgrounded against two world leaders, implying one is lying and the other has dementia
    – played the national pride card and everyone laughed

    But DAN…!

  192. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2021 11:30 am

    Not to mention the quarantine debacle (where even are those quarantine facilities BTW?) or the vaccine stroll out

    Yes, because the States dug deep, in all respects, the feds think they should be getting credit.

    People need to understand, we managed this DESPITE them, not because of them

    Together, the prime minister, his health minister and the secretary of the department of health have overseen the most expensive public policy mistakes in Australian history, but to hear Scott Morrison speak is to hear a man seeking praise for his performance. As Anthony Albanese has said often, Morrison failed in his two critical jobs: quarantine and vaccines. While the final tally cannot yet be known, the cost of these failures already runs to the tens of billions of dollars, with many lives lost and many more almost certain to follow.

    https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2021/november/1635685200/richard-denniss/needle-and-damage-done#mtr

  193. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 5, 2021 11:31 am

    * Alleged rapists have no place in parliament!!
    * Yeah!! ,,, except Bill
    * Yeah
    * Scomo really stuffed up our exports to China
    * Yeah! Look at all the economic carnage!
    * Yeah! What did he do again?
    * Dunno

  194. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2021 11:47 am

    Yeah!! ,,, except Bill

    Hope you got yor legals in place yomm, making obviously false statements about someone like that 😉

    Scomo really stuffed up our exports to China

    Yes, and now also France (ie, the EU)

    Yeah! Look at all the economic carnage!

    Deepest recession in our history. The next one on our doorstep. And a debt that makes Labors economy saving ‘debt and deficit disaster’ look like a lend from the Uncle

    Josh Frydenberg warned less than three months into JobKeeper that millions were going to firms with rising turnovers

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-03/josh-frydenberg-jobkeeper/100589318

  195. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 5, 2021 11:55 am

    Yeah! 25% of the economy was in the world’s longest lockdown for months and months and months and months and months and months…
    But don’t blame Dan, because some town in remote Chile might have had a long one.too!

  196. November 5, 2021 12:23 pm

    Yeah! Dan should’ve opened up sooner so your mum could pick up her library (even tho more people would’ve died).

    BUT FUCK THAT – WHAT ABOUT MY MUM’S BOOK…??!!!

  197. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2021 12:27 pm

    the world’s longest lockdown for months

    LINK!
    or just stop making shit up

    and ffs, go and get yer mum a friggin book ya lazy fuck

  198. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 5, 2021 12:30 pm

    Yeah! Months and months and months and months and months and months…in lockdown.
    Luckily all levels of government got full pay for mainly doing sfa
    * Why should the public service try providing a public service during lockdown?
    * Yeah, the public should just f*ck off and mind their own business. We’re busy
    * Yeah

  199. November 5, 2021 12:37 pm

    “and ffs, go and get yer mum a friggin book ya lazy fuck”

    😆

  200. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2021 12:53 pm

    Dan saved lives

    LOCK HIM UP

    morrison gave BILLIONS$ of workers money to billionaires

    meh . BUT DAN!

  201. November 5, 2021 1:33 pm

    Australia burned while Morrison holidayed in Hawaii…

    BUT DAN!

  202. November 5, 2021 1:35 pm

    Welching on the French subs deal will cost Australian taxpayers $5 billion in compensation.

    BUT DAN!

  203. November 5, 2021 1:37 pm

    A Liberal Party MP can accept an anonymous $1 million dollar bribe and still remain in Parliament.

    But what about Gillard’s home reno…

    AND DAN!

  204. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2021 2:02 pm

    Bloody Dans done it again!

  205. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2021 2:10 pm

    So, is he just aping what Labor is saying?

    Or is he just stating the bleeding obvious?

  206. November 5, 2021 3:17 pm

    IT’S THE MEDIA’S FAULT…!**

    **When it’s not Dan’s

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  207. November 5, 2021 3:19 pm

    But, but, but the lockdowns rooned EVERYBODY!!!

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  208. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 5, 2021 3:32 pm

    Hilarious!
    * 6000000 in the world’s longest lockdown
    * 58 charges over the hotel quarantine debacle
    * Ministers thrown under the bus
    …but let’s ignore that, because Dan will do better next time!

  209. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2021 3:41 pm

    6000000 in the world’s longest lockdown
    6000000 ….. Gummy Bears?
    First World?
    Continuous
    LESS DEATHS!!

    Ministers thrown under the bus

    Oh, thanks for reminding us what this thread was about 😉

  210. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 5, 2021 3:54 pm

    * give that woman a fine, she’s teaching her daughter to drive!
    * and that delivery driver, he’s washing his delivery vehicle!
    * and handcuff that 5 foot woman, she’s dangerous!

  211. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2021 4:16 pm

    Pretty much same as every other state yomm

    People in Western Sydney were tackled to the ground for not wearing masks
    Pizza delivery drivers were trashed on the front paged in Adelaide because our grubmint introduced the worlds strictest lockdown

    Meanwhile, the libs in NSW have lost both their premier and deputy, and it’s all Dans fault in yor world

    love it, friendly jordies took down a deputy premier lols

  212. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 5, 2021 4:58 pm

    * two or three times as many fines as NSW
    * Australia’s highest fines
    But let’s ignore that too, because here at The Guttertrash #westandwithdan

  213. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2021 5:36 pm

    But let’s ignore that ……………………. friendly jordies took down a deputy premier lols

  214. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2021 5:37 pm

  215. TB Queensland permalink
    November 5, 2021 7:44 pm

    Rider: The Reserve Bank of Australia has nothihg, nothing, nothing to do with the federal government (it is designed purely and simply to avoid Australian banks failing) … unless you are dopey Joe Hockey (now the head of the OECD) you gave ’em 48.8 billion dollars of YOUR money … you vote for dumber and dumber “politicians” … the BANKS support the RBA … not voters!

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/nov/05/australian-banks-lift-fixed-interest-home-loan-rates-despite-rba-keeping-official-rate-at-record-low

  216. TB Queensland permalink
    November 5, 2021 7:46 pm

    “””48.8 billion dollars””” … oops … typo … $8.8 billion …

    Check ya keyboard … 🙄

  217. TB Queensland permalink
    November 5, 2021 7:53 pm

    The Morrison Government wants us to forget that they had doubled the debt to historic highs BEFORE #COVID19

    No, no, no a thousand times NO! ‘Tis the Covid Effect! Trust the PM he is a devout cristian, truthful and never lies … and … he relies on hope and prayers!

    God gave us the pandemic and god will save us from the evil unbelievers … using our nuclear submarines! (in 18 years) … 😍

  218. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 5, 2021 8:07 pm

    “”””“””48.8 billion dollars””” … oops … typo … $8.8 billion …”””

    That is because the Reserve banks reserve fund had been depleted propping up the dollar during the GFC. Another reason it was depleted was because Swan/ALP took the profits the Reserve Bank was making against their advice.

    And i am one of the few people worried about our exploding govt debt.

    We were debt free in 2007. Shows you how quickly things can change

  219. November 5, 2021 9:46 pm

    “here at The Guttertrash #westandwithdan”

    So the alternative is Matthew Guy.

    I guess that means #YomStandswithMatthewGuy

    😆

  220. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 5, 2021 9:58 pm

    Here at The Guttertrash, we don’t like holding public officials to account. And particularly not Dan!
    #dontyouworryaboutthe58chargesoverthehotelquarantinedebacle
    #youcandiefromgolf
    #westandwithdanbecauseotherwisesomeonewillmakeupsomeillogicalcrap

  221. November 5, 2021 10:10 pm

    #Christianporterisarapistbutwedontcare

    #Gladysberejiklianisisacorruptlyingbitchbutwedontcare

    #Timsmithisadumbfuckdrunkbutwedontcare

    #Barnabyjoyceisafuckwitbutwedontcare

  222. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2021 10:18 pm

    I guess that means #YomStandswithMatthewGuy

    lols

    "Dear Dastardly Dan

    yomm says thanks for not letting his mum die, and, could you get him a book for her?

    Cheers,
    Other people who didn't die"

  223. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2021 10:21 pm

  224. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 6, 2021 12:40 pm

    Jordies- the ALP political hack who thinks stalking and harassing another person is investigative journalism

  225. November 6, 2021 1:09 pm

    You have to admire YoM’s steely-eyed resolve to remain untroubled by facts, reason, logic, or even common sense.

  226. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2021 3:52 pm

    investigative journalism

    Like this?

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jul/23/john-barilaros-lawyers-brush-off-pork-barrelling-statement-in-friendlyjordies-defamation-case

    You have to admire YoM’s steely-eyed resolve to remain untroubled by facts, reason, logic, or even common sense.

    He’s definitely entered the hallowed halls previously only graced by the likes of nil and landscapers. Lofty depths indeed

  227. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 7, 2021 7:10 am

    I’m in a very pleasant part of the country for some sun and surf, I escaped the Victorian government

  228. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 7, 2021 1:09 pm

    TomR

    Stalking and harassing another person for several years is a crime in this country.. That Jordies guy is just an ALP hack who does not care about truth. He is just a pain in the rear end.

    Investigative journalism is fine.

  229. Tom R permalink
    November 7, 2021 6:37 pm

    I’m in a very pleasant part of the country for some sun and surf, I escaped the Victorian government

    I’m sure yor fellow victorians appreciate the break

    Stalking and harassing another person for several years

    True.
    …….
    Nobody did that though, so what’s your point?

  230. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 7, 2021 7:04 pm

  231. Tom R permalink
    November 7, 2021 9:54 pm

  232. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 8, 2021 9:31 am

    Won’t somebody think of the dog!

    “To invade him, to throw him on the floor, to put him in handcuffs, and then to barge into his house, his mother is traumatised … as is his girlfriend … and his poor dog

  233. Tom R permalink
    November 8, 2021 11:27 am

    The Friendlyjordies producer Kristo Langker has pleaded not guilty to stalking and intimidating charges following his arrest over two encounters with New South Wales deputy premier John Barilaro.

    Twice, he encountered him twice, and one was a chance encounter where he tried to get the dopey crook to fill out his legal forms correctly.

    But it highlights the problems with our legal system. It has cost jordies thousands to defend himself, and most of that went into paying because of what was said under parliamentary privileges

    Luckily, he has the ability to crowd fund for this, but most people don’t have that luxury. No wonder so many politicians are launching action at the drop of a hat these days.

  234. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 8, 2021 11:40 am

    TomR

    I do not have the time to follow the story but like all lefties i bet you leave out most of the story.

    My understanding is that this Jordies guy has been stalking the politician for years. Not sure why his producer got involved.

  235. Tom R permalink
    November 8, 2021 11:45 am

    yor understanding is …. limited, should we say 😉

  236. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 8, 2021 12:02 pm

    “his mother is traumatised … as is his girlfriend … and his poor dog”

    No doubt they are one and the same person.

  237. Tom R permalink
    November 8, 2021 12:28 pm

    No doubt they are one and the same person.

    We were talking about the Producer, not the pig?

  238. November 8, 2021 4:57 pm

    Karen yellin’ from the sidelines is priceless!

    “Ya pushed ‘im ta tha BRINK…!””

    “Thisiz nuthin’ ta whut’s gunna becumin’….!!”

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  239. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 8, 2021 5:27 pm

    ALP going for gold at IBAC: “I would describe red shirts as the gold-standard rort.”

  240. November 8, 2021 7:41 pm

    YEAH BUT DAN ANDREWS….!!!!!!!!

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  241. TB Queensland permalink
    November 8, 2021 7:56 pm

    I’m in a very pleasant part of the country for some sun and surf, I escaped the Victorian government

    Already alerted the QLD! police and Anna … hope ya got a visa 😁

  242. TB Queensland permalink
    November 8, 2021 8:00 pm

    We were debt free in 2007. Shows you how quickly things can change

    Do you ever read,del> understand what you write? …

    ‘Cause we don’t …

  243. TB Queensland permalink
    November 8, 2021 8:02 pm

    We were debt free in 2007. Shows you how quickly things can change

    Do you ever read, understand what you write? …

    ‘Cause we don’t …

    Out of practice … 🙄

  244. TB Queensland permalink
    November 8, 2021 8:02 pm

    WTF!

  245. Tom R permalink
    November 9, 2021 10:10 pm

    OI! OI! OI!

  246. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 10, 2021 4:12 am

    “””Australia’s policy response to climate crisis ranked last in assessment of 60 countries””

    So after destroying our car industry Labor also wants to destroy our coal and natural gas industries

  247. Tom R permalink
    November 10, 2021 9:16 am

    “So after destroying our car industry”

    [facepalm]

  248. Tom R permalink
    November 10, 2021 9:47 am

    Can’t wait for nil to explain how Labor has given us a Trillion dollars in debt, while also giving us the deepest recession ever, and managed to get us offside with China, France and the US all at the same time.

    Pretty sure it’s Bill Shortens fault though

  249. Tom R permalink
    November 10, 2021 9:53 am

    It’s gonna be a long 6 months 😦

  250. TB Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2021 10:13 am

    How daft are Australian punters if the kiddies playing at governing Australia in Canberra win the next election?

    The technology in the Coalition’s cut-down version of the NBN cost up to three times more than originally forecast and was closer to the initial estimated cost of a revised version of Labor’s full-fibre plan, according to figures the government has sought to keep secret for almost a decade.

    The previously redacted 2013 figures detailing the estimated cost of the Coalition’s alternative model – relying on trouble-plagued pay-TV cables and fibre-to-the-node technology – show the true scale of the NBN cost blowout over the past eight years.

    When the Coalition won government in 2013, then communications minister Malcolm Turnbull commissioned a strategic review into the national broadband network to validate switching from rolling out fibre-to-the-premises for 93% of homes to a mixture of older technology using Telstra and Optus cable networks and fibre-to-the-node which then utilised existing copper lines to premises.

    The report, released in December 2013, claimed the former Labor government’s model would cost $74bn and not be completed until 2024, while the Coalition’s model would cost $41bn and be finished in 2020.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/nov/10/secret-figures-reveal-coalitions-cut-down-nbn-tech-three-times-more-expensive-than-forecast

    Exactly the sort of poor decision making we’re seeing with climate change policy … no practical idea!

  251. Tom R permalink
    November 10, 2021 12:28 pm

    Exactly the sort of poor decision making we’re seeing with climate change policy … no practical idea!

    No, it’s all about keeping the true rulers of the cuntry happy, while he runs around stealing plebs food, and lying his ass off about … well, everything

  252. Tom R permalink
    November 10, 2021 12:29 pm

    MEET AUSTRALIA’S BATSHIT INSANE MINING BILLIONAIRES
    If you want to know why a country that regularly catches fire has such disastrous climate policy, start here.

    https://www.gawker.com/politics/meet-australias-batshit-insane-mining-billionaires

  253. Tom R permalink
    November 10, 2021 5:12 pm

    “Which then is somehow repeated”

    Hmm, I wonder how 😉

  254. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 10, 2021 7:12 pm

    Pretty sure it’s Bill Shortens fault though

    We were debt free in 1972. Then Whitlam/ALP trashed the budget and govt debt kept increasing until 1996. Howard/Costello turned that around and reduced govt debt to zero.

    Then Rudd/Swan/ALP trashed the budget and started runaway debt. Whitlam/LABOR started a runaway debt truck that was not turned around for 20 years.

    I suspect it will be 40 years this time, if ever our govt debt gets under control.

    When Labor trashes something it stays trashed

  255. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 11, 2021 11:36 am

    Greetings from not Victoria where Dan’s record remains
    * World’s longest lockdown***
    * 4 times as many cases as NSW, so it’s lucky we didn’t become like Sydney
    * Dan’s Pandemic legislation that seeks to avoid parliamentary oversight

  256. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 11, 2021 4:35 pm

    “Serious journalists, need to look at this NONSENSE and call it out for what it is.” That is to continue to adopt ALP talking points in relation to each and every story. The ABC sets a fine example in this regard.

  257. Walrus permalink
    November 11, 2021 5:05 pm

    “But it highlights the problems with our legal system. It has cost jordies thousands to defend himself, and most of that went into paying because of what was said under parliamentary privileges

    Luckily, he has the ability to crowd fund for this, but most people don’t have that luxury. No wonder so many politicians are launching action at the drop of a hat these days.”

    LOL @ TomR

    You ever heard about trying to abolish 18C ?

  258. Tom R permalink
    November 11, 2021 9:40 pm

    You ever heard about trying to abolish 18C ?

    You understand that trying to find someone in breach of 18c is far bigger hurdle than just plain old defamation.

    And the thing with the ones that actually went ahead, the complainants withdrew, but the defendants were still left way out of pocket.

    It’s the problem with defamation from people with an unlimited ‘blind trust’ 😉

  259. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 12, 2021 12:53 pm

    “It’s the problem with defamation from people with an unlimited ‘blind trust’”

    That was bad.

    Worse was that Mongrel Milligan was funded by the taxpayer. But that is all the ABC is – an enterprise so conducted as to enable the misappropriation of public funds by a cabal of leftist cunts to advance their political agenda.

  260. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 12, 2021 2:28 pm

    The technology in the Coalition’s cut-down version of the NBN cost up to three times more than originally forecast and was closer to the initial estimated cost of a revised version of Labor’s full-fibre plan,

    Did the report say how long Labors FTTP would take to build?? FTTP is obviously the best but it needs an underground pipe to protect the fibre cable. Most homes do not have one. So that means building a trench down every street and into every home. Very time consuming.

    Turnbull recently tweeted that half the country would still be on ADSL if no changes were made. Instead the NBN is finished.

    Better to build a inferior NBN quickly than a Rolls Royce version finished in 2040

  261. November 12, 2021 4:33 pm

    My thoughts are with YoM and ToSY at this difficult time… 😆 😆 😆

    JUST IN:

    Support for Vic Labor is higher today than at the 2018 “DanSlide” election, at 58 / 42 2PP.

    Dan Andrews sits on a comfortable 60% personal approval rating – highest among younger voters at 72%.

    Vic Liberals have suffered a 9 point drop in voter support since last year.

  262. November 12, 2021 4:37 pm

    But wait, there’s more…….

    “Scott Morrison’s approval rating at lowest point since aftermath of black summer bushfires”

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/nov/09/scott-morrisons-approval-rating-at-lowest-point-since-aftermath-of-black-summer-bushfires

  263. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 13, 2021 9:42 am

    It’s fine! What would we do if we didn’t have Dan to criticise

  264. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 13, 2021 10:27 am

    “Dan Andrews sits on a comfortable 60% personal approval rating”

    Faaaaak!

  265. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 14, 2021 12:39 pm

    True:

  266. TB Queensland permalink
    November 14, 2021 2:53 pm

    We are not alone … 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  267. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 14, 2021 4:17 pm

    I always liked Keating, but he’s wrong. Governments cannot give the green light to the CCP

  268. TB Queensland permalink
    November 14, 2021 5:00 pm

    Nor a red rag to a raging bull … when all you have is a penknife … even if Dad is going to get you a Bowie knife for christmas … and he’s got a big shotgun … but he’s five clicks too far away …

    Do you throw a couple of rocks – or shut up and stand still?

    I see diplomacy is dead … killed by the LNP Dinosaur Club.

    If you want to rattle sabres do it on your own!

  269. TB Queensland permalink
    November 14, 2021 5:13 pm

    Thank goodness all those damas were built after the last drought … oh, wait! 🙄

    https://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/nsw-and-victoria-on-flood-watch-as-unseasonable-weather-continues/news-story/a9feb0b558701fd06d5b5e47a149ba77

  270. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 14, 2021 5:25 pm

    Keating sits on an advisory board to the China Development Bank

    Yet another treasonous turd bought and paid for by China, making money spruiking for genocidal despots.

  271. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 14, 2021 5:33 pm

    Yes, Keating has a clear conflict of interest in his views about the CCP.
    He gave the green light to a brutal dictatorship to invade a democracy. It’s shameful
    I wonder whether those that protested for the independence of East Timor will feel the same way about Taiwan

  272. TB Queensland permalink
    November 14, 2021 7:41 pm

    I wonder whether those that protested for the independence of East Timor will feel the same way about Taiwan

    Please explain? The history of China seems be beyond comprehension of some.

    Based on that theory “those that” should have protested for the unification of Vietnam …

    Mmmm …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yet another treasonous turd bought and paid for by China, making money spruiking for genocidal despots.

    I can safely assume you also refer to both sides of politics and not your oft quoted odd view that anyone who doesn’t support a right wing government must be a communist sympathiser?

    Note I doubt Paul Keating could be bought … for anything.

  273. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 14, 2021 7:57 pm

    On what basis is Taiwan less entitled to self determination than East Timor?

  274. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 15, 2021 8:25 am

    “I can safely assume you also refer to both sides of politics”

    Indeed you can. The Chinese are careful to pay traitors on both sides of politics. Although at the moment they seem to be getting better value from Keating.

    “I doubt Paul Keating could be bought … for anything.”

    So don’t believe your lying eyes, then. Keating gobbles down money from the communist regime via its wholly owned subsidiary the China Development Bank and, purely coincidentally, consistently makes rabidly pro-China public pronouncements. Keating is asshoe!

  275. Tom R permalink
    November 15, 2021 10:37 am

    On what basis is Taiwan less entitled to self determination than East Timor?

    International law?

    According to the current Constitution, the definition of ROC territories still includes mainland China. From the international law standpoint, Taiwan and Beijing are still maintaining the relationship of “one country, two governments.” James Crawford, the author of The Creation of States in International Law, also denied Taiwan as an independent country in his book as Taiwan has never explicitly claimed independence.

    https://international.thenewslens.com/feature/taiwan-for-sale-2020/128242

    Yes, Keating has a clear conflict of interest in his views about the CCP

    As clear as our grubmints? Who happily paid the Chinese million of taxpayer dollars for useless medical equipment through the slush fund knows as Twiggy

    Oh, and he was correct (see above)

  276. Tom R permalink
    November 15, 2021 10:40 am

    Diktator Dan (less dictator than the others, but hey)

  277. Tom R permalink
    November 15, 2021 10:45 am

    Seems the pm is fine with some people protesting with nooses and nazi signs of politicians, while simultaneously showing extreme restraint by refraining from shooting other ones?

    Does he have preferred protesters?

  278. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 15, 2021 11:55 am

    Preferred protesters:

  279. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 15, 2021 11:55 am

    Not so preferred protesters:

  280. Tom R permalink
    November 15, 2021 12:13 pm

    There is a difference between working with someone, and attacking someone

    The nooses may be a give away 😉

  281. Tom R permalink
    November 15, 2021 12:19 pm

    “Diktator Dan” is just a useful sideshow for the diktators

  282. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 15, 2021 12:26 pm

    The green light we gave to Indonesia to invade East Timor worked out well too
    A long standing, stable democracy shouldn’t be given the green light for invasion

  283. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 15, 2021 12:38 pm

    “There is a difference between working with someone, and attacking someone”. The pepper spray and truncheons may be a give away!

  284. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 15, 2021 12:47 pm

    Can’t keep his hands off the kiddies:

  285. TB Queensland permalink
    November 15, 2021 8:07 pm

    The green light we gave to Indonesia to invade East Timor worked out well too
    A long standing, stable democracy shouldn’t be given the green light for invasion

    So in your eyes invading countries who aren’t democracies is OK? Been to communist Vietnam lately? I have – obviously before Covid.

    Australia doesn’t just waste treasure … LNP governments destroy ADF Members and their familys’ lives … playing invader and deputy to Armamerica …

    See the irony there?

  286. TB Queensland permalink
    November 15, 2021 8:12 pm

    The green light we gave to Indonesia to invade East Timor worked out well too
    A long standing, stable democracy shouldn’t be given the green light for invasion

    Nor should they be robbed when the ADF (including my family) have returned East Timor to a democratic status … once again by a John Howard led LNP Coalition government!

    What sort of “democratic” government, steals resources, spies on allies and conspires to incarcerate government whistleblowers behind opaque court cases …

    Answer: Any LNP led government constantly heading towards dictatorship …

  287. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 16, 2021 11:50 am

    This is hilarious.

    The shooter and the people who were shot were white!

    Maybe employers should give their white employees the day off

  288. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 16, 2021 3:26 pm

    Dan has marginally modified the pandemic legislation.
    Opponents parading around with gallows doesn’t add to their credibility. But let’s remember-
    * The protests against Howard, when the left ransacked the parliament
    * Burning effigies of Howard, Kennett and Fraser
    Extremists are extreme because they don’t represent the mainstream.
    I think the Andrews government has been negligent and has demonstrated that they default to heavy handed policies.
    They only moderate their position after public pressure

  289. TB Queensland permalink
    November 16, 2021 7:05 pm

    The shooter and the people who were shot were white!

    Yep! (Sort of) Have you read the story about the lawyer playing with an AR? In court! Finger on trigger … Septic Tanks are even stupider than LNP supporters …

  290. TB Queensland permalink
    November 16, 2021 7:12 pm

    Extremists are extreme because they don’t represent the mainstream.

    So you are an extremist … I’ve read you’re comments …

  291. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 16, 2021 7:49 pm

    Nor should they be robbed when the ADF (including my family)
    have returned East Timor to a democratic status … once again by a John Howard led LNP Coalition government!

    Yes. Whitlam/ALP said it was OK for Indonesia to annexe East Timor. Which is what Indonesia did.

    Howard sent in the troops and got East Timor their independence

  292. Tom R permalink
    November 16, 2021 9:58 pm

    Burning effigies of Howard

    ???

  293. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 17, 2021 7:57 am

    Were you at this concert by any chance, Tom R?

  294. Tom R permalink
    November 17, 2021 9:29 am

    No, I wasn’t at this one either 😉

  295. Tom R permalink
    November 17, 2021 10:39 am

    Still correct

  296. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 17, 2021 10:40 am

    I must say Tom R, that I’m starting to warm to the Maiden.

  297. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 17, 2021 11:21 am

    I wonder whether Keating has read Silent Invasion.
    I think Clive Hamilton has a better take on the CCP than Keating, and is less financially conflicted

  298. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 17, 2021 11:25 am

    And it’s interesting that the CCP apologists often default to the “Australia should know it’s place” inferiority complex.
    They seem not to understand that our economy is about the same size as Russia’s

  299. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 17, 2021 11:42 am

    So Keating is pissed that the journos did not refer to his 2013 remarks when commenting on his recent press conference?

    Keating is a sensitive little sausage isn’t he? He still ahs a nice turn of phrase – “voluptuous contumely”.

  300. November 17, 2021 11:50 am

    Publicly threatening to murder the premier on the steps of parliament and not being shot or even arrested is a pretty good indicator that you’re not living in a dictatorship.

  301. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 17, 2021 11:54 am

    This is what the Victorian ombudsman said about the amendments to the pandemic legislation-
    “What is still lacking, however, is independent scrutiny. Given the wide-ranging impact of these powers on civil liberties and everyday life, they should not only be subject to independent oversight, but also to independent review.”

  302. Tom R permalink
    November 17, 2021 12:13 pm

    I’m starting to warm to the Maiden.

    They are kinda cuddly 😉

    CCP apologists often default to the “Australia should know it’s place” inferiority complex.

    Like all of your comments ….. link

    So Keating is pissed that the journos did not refer to his 2013 remarks when commenting on his recent press conference?

    If you read the article, he mentions that he repeated them in his speech. So, very relevant to the discussion

    and is less financially conflicted

    Yea, he only wants to sell his book 😦

  303. Tom R permalink
    November 17, 2021 12:15 pm

    Publicly threatening to murder the premier on the steps of parliament and not being shot or even arrested is a pretty good indicator that you’re not living in a dictatorship.

    Depends, perhaps the ‘dick-tator’ is elsewhere, silently allowing this to happen (while at the same time whimsically pining of the days when protectors could be shot, and how lucky they are that they weren’t)

  304. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 17, 2021 12:17 pm

    Yeah, academics get so rich from their book sales. Whereas former politicians that act on behalf of the banks of brutal dictatorships just do it because of their love of banks and dictatorships

  305. Tom R permalink
    November 17, 2021 12:39 pm

    Whereas former politicians that act on behalf of the banks of brutal dictatorships just do it because of their love of banks and dictatorships

    You mean like the ones who sold off our ports, and continue to allow foreign money from any source to prop up our boiling property market?

    Oh, yea, a lot of them are still there 😉

  306. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 17, 2021 12:46 pm

    I’ve never endorsed those decisions. In fact you might recall that I’ve said on numerous occasions that Clive Hamilton shamed the political establishment into some belated action.
    Who do you think I was referring to when I said “the political establishment”?

  307. Tom R permalink
    November 17, 2021 1:36 pm

    Who do you think I was referring to when I said “the political establishment”?

    lol

    Perhaps you can point to the specific time you mentioned someone apart from Dan or Paul?

  308. Tom R permalink
    November 17, 2021 1:39 pm

  309. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 17, 2021 1:41 pm

    Stop pretending
    And do you think Keating supports the investment bank of the CCP because the CCP is close to his philosophy or because it’s to his financial advantage?

  310. Tom R permalink
    November 17, 2021 1:52 pm

    or because it’s to his financial advantage?

    Does it matter in this case, because everybody has a stake here. Why not try and point out where he is wrong?

    Is it because you can’t?

    I mean, even ‘merica agrees with him (hat tip reb)

  311. tomofmelbourne@mail.com permalink
    November 17, 2021 2:12 pm

    Because he wants to give the green light to the CCP to invade Taiwan.
    Everyone that says – nothing to do with us or we will just be spectators, is siding with the CCP, particularly if they’re an influential public/political figure.
    Don’t send positive signals to the CCP about acceptance of their plan to invade Taiwan

  312. Tom R permalink
    November 17, 2021 4:35 pm

    If only he had said something like this, hey yomm

    “but China too has equal responsibility for creating a new stable and sustainable order in Asia. As it steps up to a larger leadership role it will at the same time need to be willing to accept and respect restraints on the way it uses its immense strength, because the acceptance of such restraints by great powers is the key to any successful and durable international order”.”

  313. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 17, 2021 4:58 pm

    Once you say- we won’t intervene, that’s the green light.
    Even if that’s your intention, you don’t advise of it.
    You might be familiar with enterprise bargaining. How likely is a union to achieve anything, if they said – don’t worry, we won’t go on strike

  314. Tom R permalink
    November 17, 2021 5:14 pm

    Once you say- we won’t intervene, that’s the green light.

    Once you say- we WILL intervene, that’s the red rag to the bull.

    Diplomacy 101, even the war hawks in ‘merica understand it. But, then again, they aren’t stoking up the drums of war for a short term political strategy, are they?

  315. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 17, 2021 5:59 pm

    The CCP should be under no illusion that there is an easy way for them to seize Taiwan
    Telling them that we’re not bothered is giving them the easy option

  316. Tom R permalink
    November 17, 2021 6:50 pm

    So this is saying ‘we’re not bothered’?

    “but China too has equal responsibility for creating a new stable and sustainable order in Asia. As it steps up to a larger leadership role it will at the same time need to be willing to accept and respect restraints on the way it uses its immense strength, because the acceptance of such restraints by great powers is the key to any successful and durable international order”.

  317. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 17, 2021 8:04 pm

    The significant signal from Keating was to give the CCP the green light to seize Taiwan. The rest is window dressing
    That’s unsatisfactory

  318. Tom R permalink
    November 17, 2021 10:02 pm

    The significant signal from Keating

    The significant signal from ………… who?

    "Paul Keating: The SMH misrepresented my views. This is my reply"

  319. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 18, 2021 8:55 am

    “The significant signal from Keating was to give the CCP the green light to seize Taiwan.”

    This is true. Keating’s comments were music to Xi’s little panda ears.

    Bleating Keating urged Australia to keep out when China invades Taiwan. The rest was just weasal words.

  320. Tom R permalink
    November 18, 2021 9:16 am

    Bleating Keating urged Australia to keep out when China invades Taiwan. The rest was just weasal words.

    It’s easy to see why unfairfax refused to publish Keatings response to their warmongering. patsies are easily placated it seems.

  321. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 18, 2021 9:55 am

    Keating is owed zero. His green light for seizure of Taiwan gives the CCP its propaganda headline

  322. Splatterbottom permalink
    November 18, 2021 9:56 am

    “It’s easy to see why unfairfax refused to publish Keatings response “

    Every politician with a bruised ego should have a constitutional right to rant in reply?

  323. Tom R permalink
    November 18, 2021 10:21 am

    His green light for seizure of Taiwan gives the CCP its propaganda headline

    Actually, it was costellos paper that supplied them the headline, by misrepresenting what he said.

    Why? is the question

  324. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 18, 2021 12:44 pm

    Yeah.
    Keating says- Taiwan should not be of significant concern to us, and that’s somehow misrepresented.
    Keating earns plenty of cash via the CCP, so his opinion here is comprised

  325. TB Queensland permalink
    November 18, 2021 7:21 pm

    Howard sent in the troops and got East Timor their independence

    Howard DEPLOYED the ADF (ADF means Australian DEFENCE Force) who returned East Timor to democratic rule … HOWARD then robbed ET of their gas assets!

    You seem to have SC – Selective Comprehension – based primarily with LNP Government actions – a serious affliction … I suggest you seek help …

  326. Tom R permalink
    November 18, 2021 9:50 pm

    HOWARD then robbed ET of their gas assets!

    We welcome out new underlords ………

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/postcolonial-blog/2019/nov/13/australias-history-with-east-timor-isnt-pretty-but-it-must-be-told-truthfully

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