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GHISLAINE “JIZZ” MAXWELL FACES LIFE BEHIND BARS AFTER GUILTY VERDICT! 

December 30, 2021

British socialite Ghislaine “Jizz” Maxwell has been found guilty of sex trafficking.

In what was described as the “trial of the century”, the jury heard how Maxwell lured girls as young as 14 for billionaire Jeffrey Epstein to sexually abuse and even joined in the abuse herself.

After six days of deliberation, a jury of six men and six women found the British socialite guilty on five of six counts.

  • Count one – GUILTY: Conspiracy to entice minors to travel to engage in illegal sex acts
  • Count two – NOT GUILTY: Enticement of a minor to travel to engage in illegal sex acts 
  • Count three – GUILTY: Conspiracy to transport minors with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity 
  • Count four – GUILTY: Transportation of a minor with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity 
  • Counts five – GUILTY: Conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of minors
  • Count six – GUILTY:Sex trafficking of minors

Maximum sentences for each charge

  • Count one – maximum sentence of five years
  • Count two – (not guilty) maximum sentence of five years
  • Count three – maximum sentence of five years
  • Count four – maximum sentence of 10 years
  • Counts five – maximum sentence of five years
  • Count six – maximum sentence of 40 years

She now faces a sentence of up to 65 years in prison.

VERDICT SPELLS BAD NEWS FOR PRINCE ANDREW

A legal source connected with Maxwell’s case told The Gutter Trash a guilty verdict in the case could spell trouble for the beleaguered royal.

“This could be bad news for Prince Andrew and other high-profile men who hung out with Ghislaine and Jeffrey Epstein,” the source said.

“It is possible she will begin to cooperate and tell what she knows in an attempt to lessen her jail term.

“We know that prosecutors are looking at other co-conspirators in connection with Jeffrey Epstein’s child sex ring.

“Ghislaine undoubtedly possesses information which could assist prosecutors in other cases. If she decides to co-operate, her testimony could be devastating.

“She was Epstein’s right-hand woman for years, imagine what she knows?”



372 Comments leave one →
  1. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 30, 2021 3:30 pm

    You cannot chose your relatives but you can chose your friends. That Prince Andrew was friends with Epstein says a lot.

  2. TB Queensland permalink
    December 30, 2021 5:22 pm

    I blame the Duchess of Sussex …

  3. TB Queensland permalink
    December 30, 2021 7:32 pm

    If Andy gets out of this it may just prove to more people the hypocrisy of “born to rule” by god or otherwise …

    What is astounding is the number of photos they took …

    And “Jizz’s” (Jizz???) lawyers are already setting up an “appeal” …

    Is what she did worse than murder? The victims live in hell … at least in purgatory … at least a lifetime of PTSD!

  4. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 30, 2021 9:03 pm

    TB

    So Prince Andrew is a scumbag. So what?? Do we get rid of Parliament because it is composed of scumbags??

  5. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 31, 2021 8:19 am

    What’s with the (dated) German Flag TB?

  6. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 31, 2021 9:18 am

    Looks like Bill Clinton and the others in the “little black book” (which has been sealed by the Court) will skate. This time the Clinton’s good fortune was at the hands of Jim Comey’s daughter. She is the second generation of Comey to loyally serve the Klintoon Crime Syndicate. Jim had previously written the DoJ opinion saying “nothing to see here” about Bill’s pardon of mega donor Mark Rich. It was also Jim who excused Crooked’s criminal server shenanigans – even though it was up to the A-G to decide whether to bring charges, not the head of the FBI.

    While it would be good if a few of the perverts were charged and jailed, it would be even better if the real reason Epstein and Maxwell were compromising world leaders became known.

  7. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 31, 2021 9:28 am

    It would be nice to think that Ghislaine would sing, but she will no doubt be aware of the suicide of the senior partner in Hilary’s law firm before he was due to give evidence of Crooked’s wrongdoing. She would acutely aware of Epstein’s “suicide” and also of Seth Rich’s murder.

    It’s funny that whenever information about the rich and powerful is about to be leaked there is a convenient death or suicide. Deborah Jeane Palfrey, the infamous DC Madam, committed suicide before she made her client list public. It seems that when the good and the great are involved (or even just Hunter Biden) inconvenient facts never see the light of day.

  8. December 31, 2021 10:17 am

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  9. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 31, 2021 3:04 pm

    I gather that Marque lawyers ae dedicated ALP arse-lickers. No surprise there – leftism is the religion of the upper middle classes these days. In addition, most of the legal profession are hideous pricks. That is what they get paid to do – win at all costs. But a few of them try to pretend that they are decent and interesting people.

    This particular specimen, Michael Bradley, at least does a good line in self-deprecating humour:

    “Regarded by some as the idiot savant of the legal profession …

    Apart from his well-deserved reputation as a shameless self-promoter, Michael is actually a lawyer too. His expertise is in Trade Practices and intellectual property, and he does stuff like fending off price fixing allegations by the ACCC against international airlines, merger authorisations, advertising vetting and compliance programs. Big copyright cases and some celebrity litigation too, but he doesn’t like to mention it much.

    As managing partner of Marque, Michael is treated by all the staff with a complete lack of respect, just the way he likes it. He says he’s “happy as a clam” and only regrets that the Spice Girls aren’t together any more.”

    Bradley casts himself as a writer and a lawyer. This is somewhat of a trend among lawyers with enough self-awareness to realise that law is a profession of dickheads and feel the need to try to humanise themselves take this specimen for example:

    Lawyer, poet and activist, Stewart Levitt has released a poetry book entitled “We Mortals” available now on Amazon.

    One look at the insufferable twerp may well result in neck injury as you jerk your head away from his nauseatingly smug countenance.

    And this one looks to be truly special:

    Monica Davidson
    Doyenne / Director

    Monica is the boss, and also very bossy. She is the lead business advisor for C+B, our key consultant and conducts most of our workshops. If left alone for too long she also comes up with most of our zaniest new ideas. Monica loves working with more experienced businesses and arts organisations. She is our keynote specialist and the loudest person in the office. She adores salty language, and has no idea where the tea towels live, even after all this time.

    Likes: Karaoke. Pink Champagne. Funky earrings that tell their own story. Amateur interpretive dance. Stationery. Llamas.

    Dislikes: Defensiveness. Lateness. Stories that don’t make sense. Being in nature. Small narrow minds. Red Wine.

    FFS, the mongrel doesn’t even like red wine!

  10. TB Queensland permalink
    December 31, 2021 5:45 pm

    What’s with the (dated) German Flag TB?

    Wrong, ToM, on two counts. Blue is not black and – dated?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So Prince Andrew is a scumbag. So what?? Do we get rid of Parliament because it is composed of scumbags??

    Not Parliament … but scumbag parliamentarians.

    As for the “Royal” Family.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I see splats is writing books opinion pieces here now … I remember someone else did that here … ruined his journalism career as I recall?

  11. TB Queensland permalink
    December 31, 2021 5:50 pm

    Actually popped in to say, Happy New Year, to all who’ve contributed here … and my annual thanks to the blogmeister … 👀

    😎

  12. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 31, 2021 6:37 pm

    “Happy New Year, to all who’ve contributed here … and my annual thanks to the blogmeister … 👀”

    Fine sentiments which I heartily endorse. Good health, good fortune and good life to you all!

  13. Tom R permalink
    January 1, 2022 11:15 am

    Blue is not black and – dated?

    To some, 1972 is dated TB 😉 (me, I thought it was a great year)

    And yes, ditto to the bloggie dude from me.

    Nice, we are giving free antigen tests to … almost nobody. And, bugger you if you can’t afford it.

  14. January 1, 2022 1:00 pm

    Happy new year to youse all.

    “we are giving free antigen tests to … almost nobody”

    Indeed.

    Plot twist, the hapless PM who failed to order enough vaccines, neglected to order enough test kits.

    Who could’ve seen this coming.

  15. Tom R permalink
    January 1, 2022 1:16 pm

    Who could’ve seen this coming.

    Not enough voters 😦

  16. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 1, 2022 1:24 pm

    The Pfizer vaccine was not approved for use until January 2021. And the Astrazeneca did not get approval for use until February 2021 by the TGA

    Plus some people wonder why we should get vaccines ahead of many more needy countries.

  17. Dianne permalink
    January 3, 2022 10:36 pm

    Take personal responsibility. Protect yourself. Buy your own RAT. But perhaps not your own gun?

    (After all, Government can’t provide finite resources to satisfy infinite demand – and everyone knows that if RATS are free everyone will test themselves every morning and every night and frequently during the day.)

    And this is what passes for public policy debate here in Australia. (And did you know that ALBO is a communist?)

    Our education system has failed us. But only if you …

  18. TB Queensland permalink
    January 3, 2022 11:19 pm

    I think, Di, got the wrong booster … or not 🤩

  19. January 4, 2022 11:10 am

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  20. Dianne permalink
    January 4, 2022 12:29 pm

    Regardless of ideological location, Morrison and Ministers are the proverbial ‘gold standard’ when it comes to plain old *incompetence*.

    PS – replace Sales with Tingle

  21. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 4, 2022 12:45 pm

    TB: “I see splats is writing books opinion pieces here now”

    Shorter TB:

    Nice mullet by the way! You are the very model of a Queensland intellectual – can’t even complete a sentence.

  22. ivi permalink
    January 4, 2022 1:08 pm

    (… the wrong booster … or not …

    Could be.)

  23. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 4, 2022 1:49 pm

    Regardless of ideological location, Morrison and Ministers are the proverbial ‘gold standard’ when it comes to plain old *incompetence*.

    And what would Labor do different??? Other than border control i don’t see much difference between the ALP and Coalition these days

  24. TB Queensland permalink
    January 4, 2022 7:53 pm

    Hope they bought some ammunition too …

    https://www.defensenews.com/industry/2021/12/13/australia-buys-k9-howitzers-from-south-koreas-hanwha-defense/

  25. TB Queensland permalink
    January 4, 2022 7:54 pm

    Shorter TB:

    Just demonstrates iggorance in so many ways! LOL!

  26. TB Queensland permalink
    January 4, 2022 8:00 pm

    And what would Labor do different???

    Differently …

    In a pandemic? Put people over profit …

  27. Tom R permalink
    January 4, 2022 10:34 pm

    And what would Labor do different?

    They would have implemented Jobkeeper in the manner they pitched it to the libs, by paying the workers, not the employers, and not pissing $38Billion away to profitable companies.

    And, they would not be taking money away from from medicare at a time when it’s needed the most.

    In short, they would have done the same as they did during the GFC, and done what is best for the country, not what is best for their donors.

  28. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 5, 2022 7:44 am

    So Djokovic has a medical reason to be unvaccinated and can pop over to play tennis.
    That should give great confidence to everyone that lost their jobs over vaccination.
    Thanks Dan

  29. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 5, 2022 8:37 am

    “Just demonstrates iggorance in so many ways!”

    Yes. Yours.

  30. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 5, 2022 10:05 am

    In a pandemic? Put people over profit …

    One of the trademarks of socialists is that they do not care about people. The say they do but they do not.

  31. Dianne permalink
    January 5, 2022 10:38 am

    So Dan now issues visas? Or don’t tennis players need same?

  32. TB Queensland permalink
    January 5, 2022 11:14 am

    Apparently its was Aus Tennis (??) after a “rigorous” two panel assessment … neither medical based on ATIGA “rules”

    Like this twitter comment — Whoever knocks Djokovic out of the Open may never have to buy a beer in Australia again! — chuckle …

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/05/appalling-message-outrage-over-novak-djokovics-medical-exemption-to-play-australian-open

  33. ivi permalink
    January 5, 2022 11:22 am

    (The[y] say they do but they do not.

    Um, yeah, I still can’t really discern any differences in emphases between, say, polities, and their public policies, looking to provide basic ‘universal healthcare’ and more sophisticated healthcare policies (in)effectively amounting to ‘where there is no doctor’, for whatever proffered privative (un)reason(s), in the midsts of a (not-(yet-)’endemic(ked)’) pandemic, either.)

  34. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 5, 2022 11:33 am

    ivi

    I am interested in your comment but i do not understand it

    But socialists do not care about people. They only care about themselves

  35. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 5, 2022 12:03 pm

    It is a 2 step process, the final clearance is by the state government

  36. TB Queensland permalink
    January 5, 2022 12:07 pm

    Has this bunch of kindy dropouts, in Canberra, pretending to be in charge, done anything right in this pandemic?

    Here’s another example of incompetent nincompoopery!

    https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/wholesaler-says-retailers-deliberately-holding-back-on-rapid-antigen-tests-to-push-up-demand/news-story/e0fbd070f4705c28d74cd9c2b025b9d0

  37. TB Queensland permalink
    January 5, 2022 12:09 pm

    Tennis Australia said players seeking an exemption went through a two-stage process, with their application first considered by a panel of experts in Tennis Australia, and then an assessment from the Victorian government

    Yep … just ‘cos he’s a rich prick?

  38. TB Queensland permalink
    January 5, 2022 12:12 pm

    I am interested in your comment but i do not understand it

    but you’re a national socialist … and you confuse democratic socialists with yourself …

  39. TB Queensland permalink
    January 5, 2022 12:14 pm

    Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese has changed tack and is calling on the Morrison government to make rapid antigen tests free.

  40. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 5, 2022 12:26 pm

    but you’re a national socialist … and you confuse democratic socialists with yourself …

    What?? I said that i do not understand what Ivi said. So that makes me a national socialist??

    I stand by my comment that people like yourself ie socialists do not care about people.

    You only care about yourself TB

  41. Dianne permalink
    January 5, 2022 1:19 pm

    People can’t legally enter Australia without a visa which is issued by the Federal government. It’s the feds that have the power. See Section 51 of the Constitution if in any doubt.

    Regardless, people’s trust in representative government (including concept of) is further eroded. And at a time when the need for effective collective action, via government, is badly needed.

    One wonders what KIA must be thinking? Perhaps the Movement that inspires will be given new meaning(s)?

    Nothing like the metaphorical dogshit on your boot to prompt a rethink.

  42. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 5, 2022 1:37 pm

    The state government controls regulation of workplace safety and health, including vaccination mandates

  43. Dianne permalink
    January 5, 2022 1:59 pm

    So Rod Simms from the ACCC is going to name and shame those suppliers and retailers we consider to be doing the wrong thing .

    https://insideretail.com.au/business/accc-ready-to-name-and-shame-retailers-over-rapid-antigen-prices-202201

    No ‘legal action’? Only adverse publicity? Perhaps the ACCC don’t have the power?

    Nevertheless, perhaps this naming and shaming Principle can be universalised ? So, in the future, bank robbers, thugs, con-men et al will suffer the indignity of being named and shamed but not fined nor imprisoned? There the legal jeopardy will all end? QED.

    Guess it will solve this problem of deaths in custody . But maybe not.

  44. Dianne permalink
    January 5, 2022 2:16 pm

    As seen from afar.

    The rule of unvaccinated players not getting the visas will put Novak Djokovic’s Australian Open title defence and bid for the Grand Slam record in doubt

    https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/tennis/story/australian-open-2022-unvaccinated-players-unlikely-to-get-visas-official-1866445-2021-10-19

    Just a reminder of where the constitutional power ultimately resides.

    Australia’s federal government controls the country’s border and issues visas .

    https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20211027-state-holding-australian-open-says-no-to-unvaccinated-players

    Interesting that Morrison is bending to Dan’s will. The again it might have something to do with political expediency?

    Always noticeable (and boring) when a reality is created via selective quoting.
    .

  45. Dianne permalink
    January 5, 2022 2:41 pm

    ivi from your link – Universal/Ethical Principles stage … obey laws and social rules that fall in line with these universal principles … motivated by individual conscience that transcends cultural, religious, or social convention rules

    He proceed to state that he found so few people who lived by this concept of moral behavior that he could not study it in detail.

    If only he was alive today and visited this site, he would have found rich sources for future case studies. Ditto for Bronfenbrenner.

    But perhaps they might have benefitted from more philosophy and a tinge of sociology?

  46. TB Queensland permalink
    January 5, 2022 3:13 pm

    sociology don’t mention socialist!!!! Or any connection … Kneel will have a conniption!

  47. Dianne permalink
    January 5, 2022 4:03 pm

    Always interesting to see how Morrison chooses his words so very carefully.

    Morrison was asked about the decision to grant Djokovic an exemption on Wednesday and pinned responsibility on the Victorian government.

    “Well, that is a matter for the Victorian government. They have provided him with an exemption to come to Australia, and so we then act in accordance with that decision,”

    Does that mean that if refugees get an exemption from a State then Morrison will act in accordance with that decision?

    After all Morrison also said – that’s how it works.

    https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/should-be-ashamed-australia-disgusted-as-djokovic-receives-vaccine-exemption/news-story/ad9c957c0d8cfec6bc6fc0098ba02bca

  48. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 5, 2022 4:58 pm

    Does that mean that if refugees get an exemption from a State then Morrison will act in accordance with that decision?

    I guess the Federal govt has jurisdiction in some areas and not in others.

  49. TB Queensland permalink
    January 5, 2022 5:35 pm

    I guess the Federal govt has jurisdiction in some areas and not in others.

    And doesn’t make decisions, nor accept responsibility for, any decisions made by any jurisdiction.

    Mother Morrison is a goose …

    May be a bit subtle for some …

  50. TB Queensland permalink
    January 5, 2022 5:36 pm

    BTW reb the time’s wrong it’s only 4:35 😉

  51. TB Queensland permalink
    January 5, 2022 5:41 pm

    They catch up eventually …

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jan/05/worlds-largest-coal-port-to-be-100-powered-by-renewable-energy

    You could say — its – ironic …

  52. Dianne permalink
    January 5, 2022 5:48 pm

    Re: guess the Federal govt has jurisdiction in some areas and not in others.

    That’s a pretty good guess.

    Here’s a summary of sorts re Section 51 of the Constitution

    Section 51 of the Constitution of Australia enumerates the legislative powers granted to Federal Parliament by the Australian States at Federation. … Australian States may still enact legislation upon the topics in section 51; but Federal law prevails to the extent of any conflict of laws.

    Further. Glad to see an interest in how government(s) (broadly defined) actually works. There are 39 subsections, each referred to as a ‘head of power’ under which the national parliament is empowered to make laws.

  53. TB Queensland permalink
    January 5, 2022 5:55 pm

    Ah ,,, missed the Morrison “egg” …

    “Universal free access to tests was not agreed by any of the states and territories today,” Mr Morrison said.

  54. Dianne permalink
    January 5, 2022 5:57 pm

    Clearly Neil is a socialist of sorts because he acknowledges that he knows not all and therefore relies on others to fill the epistemological gaps.

    He ought to be congratulated! Better late than never.

  55. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 5, 2022 6:23 pm

    Go Novak! He’s won the Australian open so many times we should make him an honorary Australian!

  56. Dianne permalink
    January 5, 2022 6:59 pm

    Yes for Novak, Christmas has come early this year in so many senses.

    Many Orthodox Christians (including Serbian Orthodox) annually celebrate Christmas Day on or near January 7 to remember Jesus Christ’s birth, described in the Christian Bible. This date works to the Julian calendar that pre-dates the Gregorian calendar, which is commonly observed.

    So he possibly regards this visa as a miracle.

    For tax purposes, Novak is a resident of Monaco (since 2000) but he revered in Belgrade and Serbia more generally as any visitor soon finds out.

  57. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 5, 2022 6:59 pm

    Another example of the incompetence of the Andrews government

  58. TB Queensland permalink
    January 5, 2022 7:39 pm

    He ought to be congratulated! Better late than never.

    Love it! LOL! Keep dem cards and letters comin’, Di … that’s what makes da show!

  59. TB Queensland permalink
    January 5, 2022 7:40 pm

    Another example of the incompetence of the Andrews government

    Wot? Duh!

  60. TB Queensland permalink
    January 5, 2022 7:43 pm

    Go Novak! He’s won the Australian open so many times we should make him an honorary Australian!

    Well you obviously aren’t!

    I’ve suspected for a long time that you actually live in Ohio, US of A. And I ah checked the map, cowboy.

  61. Dianne permalink
    January 5, 2022 7:46 pm

    Also another example of the incompetence of the Morrison government?

    Or is a double standard being employed?

    But there is plenty of odium to be shared around.

  62. TB Queensland permalink
    January 5, 2022 8:12 pm

    Or …

    The Prime Minister was asked by reporters on Wednesday afternoon if he personally supported the decision to grant Djokovic an exemption. He warned the tennis star could find himself “on the next plane home” if he can’t provide sufficient evidence as to why he is unable to be vaccinated.

    “My view is that any individual seeking to enter Australia must comply with our border requirements,” Morrison said.

    “Now when Novak Djokovic arrives in Australia — I’m not quite sure when he’s going to turn up but I don’t think it’s too far away — He has to because if he’s not vaccinated, he must provide acceptable proof that he cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons and be able to access the same travel arrangements as fully vaccinated travellers.

    “So we await his presentation and what evidence he provides to support that.

    Is Morrison the Prime Minister … he should know now! Before Djokovic reaches Australia!

    FFS! Morrison is just a political puppet!* He’s playing with Djokovic and every Aussie voter what a Goose!

    https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/plot-thickens-after-ominous-border-force-warning-to-novak-djokovic/news-story/c8ad25e22c30931a27347adfefb176a2

    *I’ve met Senior Managers like this and wondered … how the fuck did you get here?

  63. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 5, 2022 8:38 pm

    The state government requested the exemption.
    Incompetent

  64. Dianne permalink
    January 5, 2022 8:39 pm

    From TB’s link a “Karen” gives voice. Probably read the constitution.

    “it is the Commonwealth Government that will enforce our requirements at the Australian border.”

    Seems like Morrison’s Ministers don’t listen to the one that elevated them. Will the female Andrews be gone in the morning?

    Or has Morrison lost control?

  65. Dianne permalink
    January 5, 2022 9:48 pm

    Is the government on the point of collapse? So many internal contradictions.

    Is this Divine intervention? A miracle? Personal responsibility evaporates?

  66. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 6, 2022 7:28 am

    “Well you obviously aren’t!”

    I’m a proud Australia man!

  67. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 6, 2022 7:29 am

    “Is the government on the point of collapse?”

    Possibly, were it not for the fact that the opposition is led by that truculent turd Eachway Albo.

  68. Tom R permalink
    January 6, 2022 8:06 am

    The state government requested the exemption.

    Dare I ask …. you have a LINK?

  69. January 6, 2022 8:30 am

    “The state government requested the exemption.”

    Oh dear YoM, here’s a tissue to wipe that egg off your face.. 😆

  70. Dianne permalink
    January 6, 2022 8:51 am

    Perhaps Tom was duped?

    By the middle of next week, it’s likely that the use of RATs will be compulsory. On the hour, every hour from morn to night.

    And is it true that Novak will be assigned volunteer Croatian bodyguards? Or will he request deportation?

  71. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 6, 2022 8:56 am

    Well i found this about the Victorian govts role in getting Novak Djokovic in to Australia

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-04/novak-djokovic-says-received-an-exemption-to-enter-australia/100738536

    The statement said Djokovic had received the exemption following “a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts.”

    “One of those was the Independent Medical Exemption Review Panel appointed by the Victorian Department of Health. They assessed all applications to see if they met the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI) guidelines,” the statement read……..
    But Djokovic received a reprieve last month when Victorian Premier Dan Andrews and Tennis Australia moved to have an independent panel established to preside over requests for a medical exemption against having the COVID-19 vaccination.

  72. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 6, 2022 9:08 am

    Hilarious!! After the state government supported the medical exemption for Djokovic, he has the wrong visa and is now being deported!
    What a complete debacle for Dan… again!

  73. Dianne permalink
    January 6, 2022 9:17 am

    Dear oh dear, someone has a reading comprehension problem. From the provided link, yes the Victorian government and Tennis Australia co-operated in finding ways for Novak to be allowed entry into a tennis tournament. But they have (and never had) any power over the granting of a particular (and peculiar) visa – required for entry into Australia.

    See above re Section 51 of the Constitution

    Someone wasn’t paying attention in school.

  74. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 6, 2022 9:25 am

    Someone doesn’t understand the process of approval

  75. January 6, 2022 9:56 am

    For those slow on the uptake…

    Less than 24 hours ago Morrison said Novak’s visa wasn’t his responsibility, today apparently it is. He must have whiplash from the constant backflips.

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  76. January 6, 2022 9:59 am

    “Someone doesn’t understand the process of approval”

    Talking about yourself in the ‘third person’ now YoM…? 😆

    Journalist:

    “How did Djokovic get an exemption to come into Australia?”

    Morrison:

    “We’ll that is a matter for the Victorian govt, they have provided him with an exemption”

    Fact: Morrison asked Victoria 3 times to apply for a travel exemption – they declined.

  77. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 6, 2022 10:00 am

    Did you read the link Neil provided? Try that and get back to me

  78. Dianne permalink
    January 6, 2022 10:11 am

    Tom – stop digging. You’re already in way above your head.

    And take your own advice and really read the link Neil provided. It’s an own goal.

  79. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 6, 2022 10:13 am

    A state government authority supported the medical exemption. Is that correct?

  80. Dianne permalink
    January 6, 2022 10:23 am

    Yes the State government supported a medical exemption re the Australian Open. It reads:

    The Australian Open confirmed Djokovic had received a medical exemption in a statement released late on Tuesday night

    When are we allowing a sporting organisation to determine who gets a visa (or not)? Tiley runs a tennis tournament not a government. Australian government are run by Murdoch. LOL.

  81. January 6, 2022 10:26 am

    For the slow ones…

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

    So the Federal Govt granted the visa then 24 hours later revoked it when the State Labor govt said they wouldn’t support the medical exemption.

  82. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 6, 2022 10:28 am

    So what’s your objection to my comment?
    A state government authority supported the medical exemption.
    Then it turns out that he didn’t meet the federal visa requirements

  83. January 6, 2022 10:33 am

    The last time I looked, YOU CAN’T ACTUALLY ENTER THE COUNTRY IF YOU DON’T HAVE THE CORRECT VISA.

    Nevertheless, the Federal govt allowed him to enter the country then asked the State Labor govt to provide a medical exemption which they declined.

    Let me just post this for the third time and see if it sinks in….

    “We’ve always been clear on two points: visa approvals are a matter for the Federal Government, and medical exemptions are a matter for doctors.”

  84. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 6, 2022 10:40 am

    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/why-novak-djokovic-s-visa-was-rejected-20220106-p59m9a.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1641424113

    Looks like Tennis Australia and the Victorian government authority screwed up

  85. January 6, 2022 11:44 am

    For…. the…. really…. slow…. ones…..

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  86. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 6, 2022 11:56 am

    You obviously didn’t bother to read the article I linked

  87. Knot Think .. I Know`Teabag permalink
    January 6, 2022 1:14 pm

    How are my orbiting teapots. Still flying in formation and refuelling at the rupert rodents open sewer l hope.`

  88. Back In Some Form`Teabag permalink
    January 6, 2022 1:53 pm

    ls everybody enjoying the 2020s as much as l am. l am loving the nonstop train wreck of teabag stoopid that’s been running teh west, whether it is chairman gladys and her gold standard ‘Lockdown to the Node’ or the tinfoil ruperts storming the yankeeland bastile. The fun never stops.`

  89. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 6, 2022 3:37 pm

    Federal health authorities, also, have twice told Tennis Australia boss Craig Tiley that people not vaccinated and having contracted Covid-19 in the last six months would not be granted quarantine-free entry to Australia.

    Yes, it’s Dan’s medical panel and Tennis Australia
    15c8d0eb74c067622b696770febb01dd

  90. TB Queensland permalink
    January 6, 2022 4:12 pm

    Did Djokovic, “legally” enter the “country” – wasn’t he stopped at the border? And is awaiting either deportation or a successful High Court Appeal …

    Whatever … but Mother Morrison has done it again … said one thing … seen the public backlash (read politics in the light of an upcoming election) and pissed off another foreign government … you’d think the place was run by a bunch of escaped convicts …

    Australian government are run by Murdoch. LOL.

    Funny, Di … definitely LOL!

  91. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 6, 2022 4:55 pm

    Hilarious!
    Morrison also read part of a letter sent by the health minister, Greg Hunt, to Tennis Australia in November making clear that a previous infection was not grounds for quarantine-free entry into Australia.
    “People must be fully vaccinated, as defined by Atagi, to gain quarantine-free entry into Australia,” the letter of 29 November said.
    “This means that people who do not meet the Atagi definition of fully vaccinated will not be approved for quarantine-free entry, regardless of whether they have received foreign vaccination exemptions.
    “In relation to your specific question, I can confirm that people who contracted Covid within six months and seek to enter Australia from overseas, and have not received two doses of a TGA approved or recognised vaccine … are not considered fully vaccinated.”

  92. Tom R permalink
    January 6, 2022 5:03 pm

    Yes, it’s Dan’s medical panel

    This has another of morrisons pathetic attempts to embarrass Andrews all over it, reminiscent of the’we offered them hotel security’ vibe all over it.

    While Tennis Australia and the Victorian government gave Djokovic an exemption to play at the Australian Open, apparently on the basis of a decision by two independent panels of medical experts who applied the exemption rules developed by the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation, that does not determine the right to enter Australia.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/djokovic-farce-at-airport-the-product-of-a-chain-of-australian-failures-20220106-p59mab.html

    Song fer yomm 🙂

  93. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 6, 2022 5:11 pm

    Didn’t you read this?
    Morrison also read part of a letter sent by the health minister, Greg Hunt, to Tennis Australia in November making clear that a previous infection was not grounds for quarantine-free entry into Australia.
    “People must be fully vaccinated, as defined by Atagi, to gain quarantine-free entry into Australia,” the letter of 29 November said.
    “This means that people who do not meet the Atagi definition of fully vaccinated will not be approved for quarantine-free entry, regardless of whether they have received foreign vaccination exemptions.
    “In relation to your specific question, I can confirm that people who contracted Covid within six months and seek to enter Australia from overseas, and have not received two doses of a TGA approved or recognised vaccine … are not considered fully vaccinated.”

  94. reb of Melbourne permalink*
    January 6, 2022 5:59 pm

    Didn’t you read this?

    Novak Djokovic’s visa cancellation and possible deportation has become a scarifying issue for Australian sport and the federal government, a political break point thanks to the inattention and ignorance of the prime minister, Scott Morrison.

    On Wednesday, he duck-shoved responsibility for the world No 1 being allowed into Australia unvaccinated.

    “Well, that is a matter for the Victorian government. They have provided him with an exemption to come to Australia, and so we then act in accordance with that decision,” he told reporters, clearly not knowing what he was talking about.

    By Thursday, he had been educated on the matter and announced in muscular fashion it was a federal government matter, and the Serbian was out – one of the highest-profile figures ever to be punted from Australia.

    The home affairs minister, Karen Andrews, might have been Morrison’s educator on the matter, as she issued a statement – headed “Australia’s border rules apply to everyone” – contradicting the prime minister’s Wednesday press conference ramble.

    “While the Victorian Government and Tennis Australia may permit a non-vaccinated player to compete in the Australian Open, it is the Commonwealth Government that will enforce our requirements at the Australian border,” Andrews said in part of a statement.

    Djokovic had a visa to get to Australia. What happened when he got here is one thing, but clearly he boarded an aircraft with Australian-issue credentials saying he had a right to land here.

    [Marisse] Payne will be pressed to explain where and how that visa was issued when there are so many restrictions on the travel of vaccinated Australians.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/06/so-called-border-vigilance-pms-tough-guy-act-on-djokovic-wont-distract-from-failed-covid-response

  95. TB Queensland permalink
    January 6, 2022 6:09 pm

    Djokovic had a visa to get to Australia. What happened when he got here is one thing, but clearly he boarded an aircraft with Australian-issue credentials saying he had a right to land here.

    In between all this Mother Morrison read the public mood … flip flop flip flop … you’de think Scotty would have figured out the process of decisions making by now …

    Imagine him running a company … 😲

  96. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 6, 2022 6:11 pm

    The government has kept vaccination requirements a secret!!
    https://covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au/preparing-to-travel-to-australia-from-overseas

  97. smcm88 permalink*
    January 6, 2022 6:20 pm

    And where’s Spud in all of this….?

    Prolly enjoying ScoVid self destruct… 😆

  98. Tom R permalink
    January 6, 2022 6:41 pm

    I think it’s safer to ask, which country HAVEN’T we pissed off recently?

    Diggy Dig yomm 🙂 You know the ice is cracking when you use something like this as ‘evidence’

    Morrison also read part of a letter sent by the health minister, Greg Hunt………..

    Do they have a dossier of lies on the Sick Hunt yet?

  99. Tom R permalink
    January 6, 2022 6:44 pm

    Ya logged into the ‘gradian’ there reb 😉

  100. Tom R permalink
    January 6, 2022 6:45 pm
  101. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 6, 2022 7:06 pm

    Are you saying there isn’t a letter from Hunt to Tennis Australia?

  102. TB Queensland permalink
    January 6, 2022 7:18 pm

    And where’s Spud in all of this….?

    Shall I pop in and ask? His office is about 12 minutes away (not that I’ve calculated it or anything) 🙄

  103. TB Queensland permalink
    January 6, 2022 7:20 pm

    Are you saying there isn’t a letter from Hunt to Tennis Australia?

    Greggy’s illiterate how could he write a letter? 😶

  104. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 6, 2022 7:24 pm

    It shows our leadership is not very good. Why bring a tennis player to Australia and cause all these problems?? How difficult would it have been to make sure everything was AOK before Djokovic got on the plane??

  105. TB Queensland permalink
    January 6, 2022 7:28 pm

    Manus has Covid controls … Fed Government … he’d have to quarantine for 15+ years!!

    Until …… he “told” …. the truth …

    Serbian pht! My neighbour is a Bosnian! nah na na na

    This fkn WordPress and Yankee spelling!!! It’s not neighbor in Oz!

    OK even WordPress gets a wiggly line but I get that!

    Speaking of AI this is “magic” or “scary” depending on your point of view.

    https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/this-is-even-starting-to-freak-us-out-ameca-robot-responds-to-human-waving-finger-in-its-face/news-story/68b622082b8fc179e18ffd6aada37f30

  106. TB Queensland permalink
    January 6, 2022 7:29 pm

    It shows our leadership is not very good. Why bring a tennis player to Australia and cause all these problems?? How difficult would it have been to make sure everything was AOK before Djokovic got on the plane??

    Fk! Even Kneel gets it!!!

  107. reb of Melbourne permalink*
    January 6, 2022 7:37 pm

    “Fk! Even Kneel gets it!!!”

    Indeed!!

    YoM’s a bit slow on the uptake.

  108. reb permalink*
    January 6, 2022 8:13 pm

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  109. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 6, 2022 8:20 pm

    Imagine being a vociferous anti vaxer and turning up and not having the evidence or documentation to support your medical claims

    The ABF can confirm that Mr Djokovic failed to provide appropriate evidence to meet the entry requirements to Australia, and his visa has been subsequently cancelled.

    https://www.abf.gov.au/newsroom-subsite/Pages/statement-on-mr-novak-djokovic-06-01-2022.aspx

    Some here seem particularly slow.

  110. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 6, 2022 8:27 pm

    FFS…even Raphael Nadal gets it
    Nadal – “he knew the risks”
    https://www.straitstimes.com/sport/tennis/tennis-nadal-back-with-patchy-win-in-australian-open-warm-up

  111. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 6, 2022 10:16 pm

    So Tennis Australia and the Victorian govt said he could come. So Djokovic came. When he got here the Feds did not allow him in

    Is this true?? If so the whole thing is very confusing.

  112. Dianne permalink
    January 6, 2022 10:43 pm

    Novak probably feels ‘ambushed’. If so, then he joins a long list of arrivals who thought Australia (as a legal entity) would honour agreements/conventions/etc historically agreed to by all sides of the ideological divide.

    Novak is fortunate he is accommodated in a pub.

  113. TB Queensland permalink
    January 6, 2022 11:08 pm

    Novak is fortunate he is accommodated in a pub.

    No free beer and no tennis court tho’, hey?

  114. reb permalink*
    January 7, 2022 7:00 am

    “If so the whole thing is very confusing.”

    It’s quite straightforward Neil…

    The Federal Govt is responsible for Australia’s borders and issued Novak a visa to arrive in Australia.

    When Novak arrived in Australia with said visa, he was cleared to enter Australia by the Immigration Dept (A Federal Govt entity).

    The Federal Govt subsequently decided his visa wasn’t valid.

    Whether he sought and/or received an ‘exemption’ from the vaccination requirements in order to play in The Australian Open from Tennis Australia is fairly irrelevant, if the Aus Federal Govt decided his visa was no longer valid, then he should not have been allowed to enter the country in the first place.

    This is a Federal Govt balls up, but some people can quite seem to grasp it.

  115. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 7, 2022 9:05 am

    Not to mention that on line visas as issued subject your obligation to prove you meet the required conditions.
    For example, having the medical documentation and evidence that you claim

  116. January 7, 2022 9:30 am

    “For example, having the medical documentation and evidence that you claim”

    Indeed, something the Federal Immigration Dept should have checked when he arrived in Australia.

  117. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 7, 2022 9:57 am

    It seems some people are completely unfamiliar with the process of obtaining an on line visa
    The claimed documents are required to be produced at entry, they aren’t attached to the application.
    Some people are so unworldly

  118. TB Queensland permalink
    January 7, 2022 10:36 am

    Some people are so unworldly

    And alien …

    The claimed documents are required to be produced at entry …

    And therein may rest a clue to the whole fracas …

  119. January 7, 2022 11:49 am

    “The claimed documents are required to be produced at entry”

    What is it about your own comment you don’t understand?

  120. TB Queensland permalink
    January 7, 2022 12:08 pm

    Its like living in bloody Melbourne here, has been for days … overcast, storms, gusty winds, nasty little showers and I can’t put the last coat of decking oil on my refurbished fkn Jarrah deck!

    No wonder the place is swarming with Victorian and NSW number plates … if this is how the poor bastards “live” normally …

  121. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 7, 2022 12:13 pm

    This is a Federal Govt balls up, but some people can quite seem to grasp it.

    OK what did the Feds do wrong?? Surely it was the State govt who encouraged the guy to come. Are the Feds supposed to tell the guy not to get on a plane to fly here??

  122. Dianne permalink
    January 7, 2022 12:40 pm

    Neil re ” Are the Feds supposed to tell the guy not to get on a plane to fly here?”

    It begins earlier than that “You should not book flights or make travel commitments until you have a visa to travel to Australia. The department will not be liable for any financial loss incurred by clients whose visa application was finalised later than expected or unsuccessful”

    Different rules for different nations.

  123. January 7, 2022 12:45 pm

    “Its like living in bloody Melbourne here, has been for days.”

    What, you mean there’s suddenly an influx of culture…?

  124. Dianne permalink
    January 7, 2022 12:51 pm

    Re Are the Feds supposed to tell the guy not to get on a plane to fly here?

    Yep! And they do.

    All travellers who are not Australian citizens need to obtain a valid visa or authority to enter Australia. This must be obtained before travelling to Australia.

    Different rules for different Nations.

    Use to buy a visa at Istanbul airport. Don’t need one for Thailand (first 30 days for free). Vietnam used to be a nightmare as was Russia (even for closets communists).

    Novak is poorly advised re appealing to Court(s). Should have gone to Dutton. He can fix things.

  125. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 7, 2022 12:56 pm

    Dianne

    I get that. I worked in the USA for a while. I came home and then went back for another year on a different visa. When i arrived in LA i was told by the passport check guy to go into a room and wait. I was then interrogated. It was a scary experience. Anyway it turned out there was nothing wrong with my B visa so they let me in

    The Serbian guy had a visa but it was not good enough to get into Australia.

  126. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 7, 2022 1:41 pm

    It seems that few here understand how on line visas work. They’re generally issued in good faith, and subject to the holder being able to justify their claims upon entry.
    For example, in entering the USA you will usually be issued with an ESTA in the basis of your on line application.
    If you say you have no criminal record, they won’t check, but if prior to your arrival they find you have a record, you’ll be denied entry at the gate.
    It is always up to the applicant for a visa to satisfy the requirements of the country they plan to visit.
    Some here are unable to understand that

  127. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 7, 2022 2:56 pm

    How some think visas are processed…

  128. TB Queensland permalink
    January 7, 2022 4:27 pm

    What, you mean there’s suddenly an influx of culture…?

    Yeah … anti-vaxxers, back packers, kids in caravans, gray nomads, motorbikes, far right tats and badges … culture – if you say so …

  129. TB Queensland permalink
    January 7, 2022 4:46 pm

    How some think visas are processed…

    When did you work there, ToM? Is that Melbourne last year or this?

  130. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 7, 2022 4:58 pm

    Don’t they understand that the CCP will be annoyed!!??

    Germany has a new Chancellor, Olaf Scholz, and a new coalition government has taken charge of Germany with the single mandate of making China’s life miserable

    https://tfiglobalnews.com/2021/12/30/the-german-boycott-of-chinas-beijing-olympics-is-here/

  131. Tom R permalink
    January 7, 2022 6:42 pm

    Don’t they understand that the CCP will be annoyed!!??

    If you wanted to annoy them, wouldn’t you not send any athletes to an Olympic event? They aren’t sending a politician, I’d have thought that would be a win win for any country.

    BTW, was good to see you finally start to dig back up 😉

  132. reb permalink*
    January 7, 2022 6:44 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  133. TB Queensland permalink
    January 7, 2022 7:33 pm

    What a schmozzle who made the call … Aw Fuck It! Let e’m Sink or Swim!

    And who agreed? Every fkn state and territory except one … (and its not QUEENSLAND!)

    Who’s running all this shit … anyone see organised – “Just Let It Rip”

    I blame ToM!

  134. TB Queensland permalink
    January 7, 2022 7:48 pm

    Every Empire Falls look to history!

    Unfortunately we seem to be in the wrong empire … in my case – again.

  135. TB Queensland permalink
    January 7, 2022 8:09 pm

    Localities are no longer posted here. Just discovered that a family of four just four doors down are in isolation. One of our grandsons and partner have tested positive.

    The lack of info is deafening!

    Don’t know about your state but this helps … a bit!

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/ng-interactive/2022/jan/07/australias-covid-hotspots-see-case-numbers-in-your-neighbourhood

  136. Tom R permalink
    January 7, 2022 10:30 pm

    The PM is making jokes about it in the FOX VIP booth at the cricket.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0i8sLsVEAI0orD?format=jpg&name=small

  137. Tony permalink
    January 8, 2022 6:09 am

    This sounds right:

  138. TB Queensland permalink
    January 8, 2022 10:50 am

    I’m eligible for a booster right now … we had booked in for the 28th of January … and asked if we could bring that date forward. No, not enough boosters being supplied.

    So we tried another surgery. Not until 2nd February, not enough boosters being supplied.

    😶

  139. reb permalink*
    January 8, 2022 10:58 am

    Sounds about right…

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  140. Dianne permalink
    January 8, 2022 12:16 pm

    TB – try Brighton Health Campus. Arrive at about 3.30pm. Park at Decker Park (just off the Bridge to your left). So left towards Sandgate, then first left to beachfront. Then right (no other option), drive as far as you can – about 3/400 metres – park your car and then walk along beach front to join the ‘walk in’ vaccination line on the right – yes it’s out of sight – but less than 200 metres. Ask someone if unsure).

    It will be ‘closed’ for the day (@3.50pm) BUT you will be offered an appointment, probably for the next day. They are working 7 days a week. And at that time of the day they make sure there are no gaps for the morrow.

    They have 10 nurses working in the main assembly hall. And they don’t muck around.

    Worked well for us and some other neighbours. Possibly just luck. But worth a try.

    Only offering Pfizer.

  141. TB Queensland permalink
    January 8, 2022 4:47 pm

    TB – try Brighton Health Campus.

    LOL!

    Guess where we were this morning!

    Boosted … agree they don’t muck around.

    Got to the door and Hinchcliffe and D’arth turned up with cameras etc. … held us up for extra 15 minutes … !

  142. TB Queensland permalink
    January 8, 2022 7:03 pm

    This sums up the strategy of profit over people backfired with a bang … (nuclear bang)

    As the country transitions from a suppression strategy to one where we live with COVID, we’ve already begun to encounter some hurdles – most notably, labour shortages due to COVID sickness or isolation. Many of our valued business partners that supply our products are short of staff – and at ALDI, we’re experiencing this too. But rest assured, there isn’t a food shortage, just complications and delays associated with less employees.

    And it seems there is a shortage of … wait for it … yep … toillette papier … when will people learn to stock up?

    Didn’t toylet tell us there was ample stocks in SA? Oh, bugger but not truck operators …

    Pity Australia doesn’t have a decent railway system …

    Or a Federal ICAC …

    Or water storage infrastructure program …

    Or renewable energy program …

    Or ………………………………………………

    Or a competent Federal Government!

  143. TB Queensland permalink
    January 8, 2022 7:09 pm

    And as an example of slack government … why should unpaid volunteers do the Federal and State governments job for them …

    What an ideal project for a true compulsory National Service for high school leavers and/or paid volunteers … any taxes invested would be returned to the economy tenfold (called churning) … even “volunteers” have to live …

    https://www.resiliencecorps.org.au/

    Clever concept just needs refinement …

  144. TB Queensland permalink
    January 8, 2022 7:17 pm

    Qld records 11,174 new Covid cases, one death as elective surgeries put on hold

  145. Tony permalink
    January 8, 2022 8:59 pm

    Evidently Queenslanders have been disobeying the rules.

  146. Tony permalink
    January 8, 2022 9:00 pm

    Lol

  147. TB Queensland permalink
    January 8, 2022 10:22 pm

    Evidently Queenslanders have been disobeying the rules.

    nah, Tosy, jusdt over-run by cockroaches and mexicans …

  148. Tom R permalink
    January 8, 2022 10:57 pm

    lol tosy

  149. January 9, 2022 1:34 pm

    This sounds right:

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  150. January 9, 2022 1:45 pm

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  151. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 9, 2022 2:10 pm

    How come case numbers are increasing when most of the population is now double vaxxed??

  152. TB Queensland permalink
    January 9, 2022 3:17 pm

    How come case numbers are increasing when most of the population is now double vaxxed??

    Is that you, Scotty?

  153. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 9, 2022 4:02 pm

    Daily cases are now irrelevant. The purpose of the vaccine is was to turn covid into the flu. It has succeeded.
    We’ve now had more deaths from drowning at the beach than from the omicron variant.
    And remember how we had 4000 deaths from the flu and pneumonia in the year before the pandemic.
    Get on with other stuff, like kicking Djokovic out

  154. January 9, 2022 4:59 pm

    Must watch (NSFW)…

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  155. January 9, 2022 5:43 pm

    “Daily cases are now irrelevant.”

    Sure. Tell that to frontline workers or those waiting for a hospital bed for elective surgery.

    🙄

  156. TB Queensland permalink
    January 9, 2022 6:00 pm

    The purpose of the vaccine is was to turn covid into the flu. It has succeeded.

    Tell that to the thousands who have it and the economists.

    From a personal point of view … we have an adult family across street with Covid (found out by word of mouth not the government). We have a family member and his partner with Covid (both work in hospitality) … we cancelled last night’s restaurant dinner with friends after they rang to discuss our thoughts.

    Queensland is now a different state after opening the borders and letting it rip! RIP may be more ironic that you think.

    And toilet paper seems to have whizzed off the supermarket shelves again …

    An economy needs people to operate it and feed it … not the other way around …

    A reminder: I prefer to thrive in a society, not survive in an economy!

    People before profit … will always work …

    Provide great service and the dollas will folla …

    Seems our governments listened to Mother Goose Morrison once too often …

    Let it rip alright … bring on that bloodyt election!

    https://medicguild.com/articles/how-did-we-get-here-the-economics-behind-australias-covid-19-disaster/

    https://theconversation.com/why-most-economists-continue-to-back-lockdowns-164239

    https://www.smartcompany.com.au/finance/economy/economists-covid19-lockdowns/

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/09/too-late-now-but-let-it-rip-might-prove-tricky-for-scott-morrison-come-election-time

  157. TB Queensland permalink
    January 9, 2022 6:06 pm

    … those waiting for a hospital bed for elective surgery.

    Includes one of mine …

    Another family member was sent home from hospital just before NYE … now waiting to find out what the five specialist are planning … waiting … waiting …

    Another family member studying paramedic/nursing double has already volunteered (last year) in regional Queensland for Covid testing and vaccinations and was recently deployed to a large central hospital near Brisbane.

    The word SURGE in cases is more than appropriate.

  158. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 9, 2022 6:14 pm

    Daily cases are now irrelevant. The purpose of the vaccine is was to turn covid into the flu. It has succeeded.

    It seems that more people are getting covid after the population has been vaccinated than before.

  159. Tony permalink
    January 9, 2022 7:06 pm

    We did everything we were asked but got nothing we were promised.

  160. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 9, 2022 7:19 pm

    What a couple of tossers.
    Overseas, front line workers have been under genuine pressure. Overburdened ICU and having to make decisions about whether to admit patients. That hasn’t happened here.
    With 4000 deaths from the flu and pneumonia there was more pressure on the health system a few years ago.
    Here, front line health workers have experienced the pressure of the possibility of an outbreak, and the endless media stories about how bad it all is.

  161. January 9, 2022 7:34 pm

    “Overseas, front line workers have been under genuine pressure. Overburdened ICU and having to make decisions about whether to admit patients. That hasn’t happened here.”

    In that case, is this where you congratulate Dan Andrews for the great job he’s doing running the State Health service?

    *Thought not.

  162. January 9, 2022 7:39 pm

    “What a complete debacle for Dan… again!”

    Looking forward to your next update on why the Novak Djokovic debacle is all Dan Andrews’ fault….

    Please do enlighten us. I’m all ears….

    Guffaw.

  163. TB Queensland permalink
    January 9, 2022 7:45 pm

    Guffaw. alright … its just wearying ignorance or disenlightenment … reminds me of the antivaxxers who suddenly see the light in ICU …

  164. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 9, 2022 7:48 pm

    Has Dan seen off the 58 charges over the hotel quarantine debacle?
    Congratulations if he has! But he hasn’t. That’s enjoyment still to ccome
    Is there another city that has defeated Melbourne to become the most locked down?
    But the reality is that the pressure you claim for the front line health workers is mainly the pressure of expectation, not of a health system in crisis

  165. January 9, 2022 7:54 pm

    [Still] Looking forward to your next update on why the Novak Djokovic debacle is all Dan Andrews’ fault….

    😆

  166. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 9, 2022 9:45 pm

    Remember this from October…Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews doesn’t believe unvaccinated tennis players should be allowed to compete in this summer’s Australian Open.
    Now we’ve had his CHO suggesting that catching covid is a substitute for vaccination, as well as his expert medical panel.
    But they’re only people on the government payroll, which has nothing to do with Dan’s government

  167. Tom R permalink
    January 9, 2022 11:14 pm

    With 4000 deaths from the flu and pneumonia there was more pressure on the health system a few years ago.

    From Dec 26 2021 to Jan 8 2022 there have been 176 deaths and almost 700,000 cases (that’s in just 2 Weeks for the slower ones). And that rate is only going to climb. You do the Math! And it’s those case numbers that are bringing our hospitals to their knees (oh, and years of neglect).

    https://news.google.com/covid19/map?hl=en-AU&mid=%2Fm%2F0chghy&gl=AU&ceid=AU%3Aen

    And yomm, quite seriously, you have no fucking idea what our front line health workers do, or the pressures that they are under. You can’t even read a fucking ebook ffs!

    We did everything we were asked but got nothing we were promised.

    Well, except of course from the majority of the country living quite happily … without Covid. Now, not so much. see above 😉

  168. Tom R permalink
    January 9, 2022 11:18 pm

    Awks

  169. Tom R permalink
    January 9, 2022 11:25 pm

    Now we’ve had his CHO suggesting that catching covid is a substitute for vaccination, as well as his expert medical panel.

    LINK!

    Like the one below (which is actually a ‘thread’ 😉 )

  170. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 8:46 am

    As I said people (particularly here) talk as if the health system has already been in crisis. It hasn’t. Experience overseas has been different though.
    The 4000 deaths from the flu and pneumonia few years ago was more serious than we have experienced so far with covid.

  171. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 9:04 am

    The 4000 deaths from the flu and pneumonia few years ago was more serious than we have experienced so far with covid.

    As I said, you have no idea. Yes, we have had very bad years for the flu, sometimes it comes close to critical mass. We are at critical mass now with Covid, and the numbers continue to rise.

    Covid-19 has added a new dimension to all emergency departments in Australia. The advent of the Omicron/Delta wave of late 2021-22 has put immense strain on these sections of the health workforce due to sheer patient load.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/09/its-not-covid-thats-broken-our-health-system-its-years-of-neglect

    Do some simple research before proving your ignorance. I can foresee within a week you’ll be having a go at Nurses and Orderlies for gorging on Monte Carlos and wearing cardigans instead of downloading ebooks for their clueless patients.

  172. January 10, 2022 9:04 am

    “As I said people (particularly here) talk as if the health system has already been in crisis. It hasn’t.”

    Queensland hospitals ‘stretched to breaking point’ and not ready for Covid, AMA says

    “Frustrated” Queensland doctors have developed their own plan to fix a hospital system they say is “stretched to breaking point”, as the state prepares for more Covid cases when border restrictions relax, AAP reports.

    Questions are being raised about capacity to handle surges in demand brought on by the reopening of borders to Covid-19 hotspots and the impending cyclone season.

    “Our public hospital system is stretched to breaking point and our staff are worn out,” the Australian Medical Association Queensland ‘Ramping Roundtable’ chair Kim Hansen said.

    There are not enough beds and there are not enough staff. It is as simple as that.

    Gee, who to believe YoM, or the AMA….??

    The same YoM who reckons Novak Djokovic visa debacle is Dan Andrews’ fault….?

  173. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 9:15 am

    Gee, who to believe YoM, or the AMA….??

    Or just simple FACTS?

  174. January 10, 2022 9:18 am

    “Facts” aren’t YoM’s strong point Tom…. 😆

  175. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 9:20 am

    Hilarious! Doctors complain about working! How unusual for a union. Particularly a Queensland one

  176. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 9:23 am

    Hilarious! Doctors complain about working!

    “I can foresee within a week you’ll be having a go at Nurses and Orderlies for gorging on Monte Carlos and wearing cardigans”

    Well, that went quicker than anticipated 😦

  177. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 9:27 am

    WORLD LEADERS!

  178. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 9:42 am

    With more deaths from drowning in Australian beaches this summer than from the omicron variant, imagine what the (Queensland) AMA would have to say if we’d experienced the type of outbreak of some other countries

  179. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 9:49 am

    You do realise that the deaths in the above Tweet is per day, don’t you yomm?

  180. TB Queensland permalink
    January 10, 2022 9:56 am

    You can lead people to thought … but ya can’t make ’em think!

    🙄

  181. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 10:01 am

    Get over it
    Before vaccination the death rate was about 1.5% of cases. Now it’s about 0.1%

  182. January 10, 2022 10:22 am

    “Hilarious! Doctors complain about working! How unusual for a union.”

    In “YoM’s world” only employers have legitimate complaints, anyone else is just having a whinge.

    Explains a lot really.

  183. January 10, 2022 10:26 am

    It’s interesting how quickly LNP stooges have moved on from mentioning cases to hospitalisations to ICU to now only mentioning deaths.

    Serious illness? Take a fkn panadol and STFU.

  184. January 10, 2022 10:39 am

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  185. January 10, 2022 10:41 am

    FKN whingers……!!

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  186. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 10:43 am

    When death rate moves from 15 in a thousand to one in a thousand, don’t you think the discussion might change?

  187. TB Queensland permalink
    January 10, 2022 10:55 am

    When death rate moves from 15 in a thousand to one in a thousand, don’t you think the discussion might change?

    NO … 1000 people still need beds and nursing … 15 bodies or one only, need a coffin!

  188. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 11:03 am

    When death rate moves from 15 in a thousand to one in a thousand, don’t you think the discussion might change?

    Should the discussion change when the number of infections rises by over threefold?

    We are seeing the highest hospital rates in most states. Add that to yer dumbabase

  189. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 11:26 am

    The purpose of vaccination was to turn covid into the flu. People are now bothered because it has worked

  190. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 11:32 am

    People are now bothered because it has worked

    Sure nil 😦

    And the federal grubmint wants to kick out the worlds best tennis player because he didn’t get his flu vax?

  191. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 11:42 am

    “Everything is fine, everything is cool …”

  192. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 11:44 am

    Amazing, now Tom R is supporting an anti vaxer nutcy who tried to avoid the rules of his host

  193. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 11:51 am

    Amazing, now Tom R is supporting an anti vaxer nutcy who tried to avoid the rules of his host

    LINK? (or, do you just read really bad)

  194. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 12:23 pm

    Such is your partisan zealotry that you side with a prominent anti vaxer!

  195. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 12:31 pm

    you side with a prominent anti vaxer!

    Are people who don’t get flu shots ‘anti-vaxxers’?

    FYI, I’m just riffing off your ‘it’s just a flu’ vibe 😉

  196. January 10, 2022 12:35 pm

    Mild case of the flu…

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  197. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 10, 2022 12:50 pm

    Why are things getting worse now most of the population is double vaxxed??

    I see the GG has just come down with Covid. He is double vaxed plus has had the booster shot.

  198. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 1:06 pm

    And 4000 died from the flu and pneumonia just a few years ago, including infants. Was everyone demanding… something or other?
    And Tom R continues to compare a successful pandemic vaccination to a flu shot, giving support to a rich anti vaxer

  199. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 1:26 pm

    Was everyone demanding… something or other?

    Yes, stop coughing all over everyone. There was a massive ad campaign

    And Tom R continues to compare a successful pandemic vaccination to a flu shot

    OK, so you just read bad 😉

    “The purpose of the vaccine is was to turn covid into the flu. It has succeeded.”

    The ‘just a flu’ line is yours, not mine. You own that one

  200. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 1:29 pm

    A successful vaccination, and you think border rules should accommodate prominent anti vaxers

  201. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 1:30 pm

    lol

  202. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 1:37 pm

    and you think border rules should accommodate prominent anti vaxers

    FREE SPEECH

    But no, I don’t, but perhaps that is why they should be stopping him (should have stopped him)

    From where things stand, everyone has done everything correctly, and above board. The only ones who appear to have been surreptitious is Border Farce. They have made a real mess of this.

    ‘What more could this man have done?’ Judge asks lawyer

    https://www.theage.com.au/sport/tennis/novak-djokovic-court-case-live-updates-serbian-tennis-star-fights-to-play-in-2022-australian-open-20220110-p59n0m.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1641776795-1

  203. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 1:58 pm

    Almost every other player was vaccinated. Tennis Australia tried to accommodate an anti vaxer.
    The panel appointed by the state government helped and the federal health minister wrote to TA , advising that recent covid wasn’t acceptable.
    But go ahead and support the rich anti vaxer tosser who tried to get around the rules of his host
    As Raffa said – he knew the risk

  204. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 2:08 pm

    Almost every other player was vaccinated.

    Haven’t they kicked another couple out since this blew up?

    Tennis Australia tried to accommodate an anti vaxer.

    There’s is a blind test, they don’t know who they are checking, they are just checking that the boxes ave been ticked

    he knew the risk

    Quite obviously, from the comments from the judge (in the link yomm, read it before more embarrassment ensues), he didn’t. How was he to know they would treat a white tennis player like a brown person?

  205. TB Queensland permalink
    January 10, 2022 3:06 pm

    How was he to know they would treat a white tennis player like a brown person?

    whooooooooooo … 😲😳

  206. TB Queensland permalink
    January 10, 2022 3:07 pm

    How many paramedics usually attend an accident?

    In Queensland its two …(in one ambulance)

  207. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 3:16 pm

    In Queensland its two …(in one ambulance)

    Same in SA

    Well it was, now they have one, and a medically untrained driver

    This is what system failure looks like.

  208. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 3:41 pm

    Blind test, it would be interesting to know whether that was along the lines of “player xxx received an exemption from the Serbian Public Health office, because they’d contracted asymptomatic covid”
    Who on earth could that be!!

  209. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 4:15 pm

    Who on REDACTED could that be!!

    [facepalm]

  210. January 10, 2022 5:05 pm

    Still waiting for YoM to elaborate on how Dan Andrews is responsible for Novak’s VISA being revoked.

    You insist he’s responsible, so what is it you ****face?

  211. TB Queensland permalink
    January 10, 2022 5:11 pm

    Well it was, now they have one, and a medically untrained driver

    Only one paramedic turned up early this morning, to attend a family member who had a badly damaged toe from a fall. Long wait too …

    This is what system failure looks like. And my point … thanks,TR

    Maybe they don’t have paramedics in Victoria? (Anymore)

  212. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 10, 2022 5:14 pm

    It would be really nice if the lefties did not play politics with a difficult situation

  213. January 10, 2022 5:43 pm

    “It would be really nice if the lefties did not play politics with a difficult situation”

    That’s GOLD Neil…!! 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

  214. Dianne permalink
    January 10, 2022 5:48 pm

    So Novak wins. What was at fault? The administrative arrangements? Or the implementation of same?

    Not a god outcome for Border Force.

    Bring back Dutton?

  215. TB Queensland permalink
    January 10, 2022 5:52 pm

    It would be really nice if the lefties did not play politics with a difficult situation

    It would be wonderful if right wing magnets knew what was going on outside … and stopped listening to Mother Morrison … clucking and ducking false and misleading information like some rabid marketing executive on Gruen!

  216. TB Queensland permalink
    January 10, 2022 5:55 pm

    Bring back Dutton?

    Nip round and ask him, Di … and drop a Get Well Soon card under Lukey’s windscreen wiper for me, while you there. There’s a good chance they’ll be having drinkies out the back …

    😎

  217. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 6:04 pm

    Djokovic win, that will cheer up his supporters here

  218. January 10, 2022 6:05 pm

    The Courts reject the Federal Govt’s cancellation of Novak’s visa.

    Waiting for YoM to explain how this is an embarrassing backdown for Dan Andrews. 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 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  219. January 10, 2022 6:08 pm

    “Such is your partisan zealotry that you side with a prominent anti vaxer!”

    So did the Courts evidently.

    Your comments tend not age particularly well YoM…. #justsayin’

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  220. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 6:15 pm

    If Djokovic wins the open, I hope spectators stand, and turn their backs on him while booing relentlessly

  221. January 10, 2022 6:18 pm

    Funny how YoM thinks that if you’re critical of the Federal Govt’s Novak visa debacle then that must mean you’re an anti-vax supporter.

    Twat.

  222. January 10, 2022 6:18 pm

    *PS: still waiting.

  223. January 10, 2022 6:21 pm

    But Dan Andrews……………………!! 😆

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  224. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 6:27 pm

    Shouldn’t border farce be the ones being booed here? I mean, they are the ones who let Andrews smuggle in a tewwawist right under their noses?

    I also understand that another minister is lining up to BOOT HIM OUT!

    They really don’t want us to pay attention to the ‘common flu’ running rampant through the cuntry do they?

  225. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 6:29 pm

    Remember how Dan’s medical panel provided the exemption.
    It’s funny how cheering for the failure of the federal government trying to deport an anti vaxer nutcase isn’t supporting an anti vaxer nutcase

  226. January 10, 2022 6:35 pm

    Keep digging YoM, you’re just embarrassing yourself…

  227. Dianne permalink
    January 10, 2022 6:42 pm

    Look at the ‘meta’ picture. Possibly a ‘payback’ to the executive arm who have long been in the business of appropriating the powers of the judicial branch.

    Dutton being the prime example.

  228. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 6:46 pm

    Th embarassment is all yours. Congratulations on your support for a rich anti vaxer nutcase

  229. January 10, 2022 6:47 pm

    I don’t recall EVER saying I support Novak or anything he stands for.

    Perhaps you can correct me.

    Take your time, I’ll wait.

  230. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 6:49 pm

    Take your time, I’ll wait.

    But If Eternity Should Fail?

  231. January 10, 2022 7:17 pm

    “You don’t like pavlova…?”

    “You must love lawn fertiliser…..!!”

    *YoM logic

  232. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 7:23 pm

    lol reb

  233. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 7:26 pm

    Someone might explain the difference between cheering for the failure of attempts to deport Djokovic and support for Djokovic

  234. January 10, 2022 7:38 pm

    “Someone might explain the difference between cheering for the failure of attempts to deport Djokovic and support for Djokovic”

    By all means, please go ahead………

  235. January 10, 2022 7:42 pm

    Nurses at St Vincents Hospital are reporting they are working 16 & 18 shifts.

    YoM: Are you calling them liars…?

  236. January 10, 2022 7:43 pm

    BTW: Still waiting

  237. Dianne permalink
    January 10, 2022 7:48 pm

    Will Morrison attempt a ‘crash through’ by having his Immigration Minister use his ‘executive’ power?

    Time for some courage? Or political stupidity?

  238. TB Queensland permalink
    January 10, 2022 7:58 pm

    … He (Djokavic) told the official he was infected with Covid twice – most recently in December – and handed the official his positive test results.

    Twice? “Official positive tests” – from whom? The Bosnian Government? Or Australian Health officials? What does “official” actually mean?

    I love adminstrative farce! By either side ….

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Dutton being the prime example.

    ????? an example – Prime Dutton … Warcraft … the vid game springs to mind … bejeasus!

  239. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 8:08 pm

    YoM: Are you calling them liars…?

    I’m not sure yomm knows who he’s calling what anymore

    One thing is for sure, this episode has proven that often, nobody wins

  240. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 8:09 pm

    A win for the anti vaxers! Great work!

  241. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 8:19 pm

    A win for the anti vaxers! Great work!

    And whose fault is that dopey?
    Oh yea, DAN ANDREWS [facepalm]

  242. January 10, 2022 8:19 pm

    *still waiting *yawn*

  243. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 8:21 pm

    How did Djokovic get here in the first place… because a state government organisation privided a medical exemption

  244. Dianne permalink
    January 10, 2022 8:22 pm

    Dutton was a ‘copper’ with time in the drug squad. Like lots of his colleagues, he became frustrated with the judicial branch of government. You know – we arrest them and the judges let them go.

    If you study the legislation he introduces, invariably he makes the final arbiter (for appeals) ‘the Minister’ and not the judicial branch. In short, he doesn’t trust the judiciary.

    (In Cabinet, Brandis even reported one of Dutton’s outburst re certain legislation “Don’t let things go to the Courts because they might let (the accused) off!”

    Even Brandis was shocked.)

    In short, Dutton doesn’t like the Separation of Powers doctrine.

  245. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 8:23 pm

    *yawn*
    I think you mean “comatose”

  246. TB Queensland permalink
    January 10, 2022 8:40 pm

    In short, Dutton doesn’t like the Separation of Powers doctrine.

    Dutton is the Australia’s worst nightmare

  247. TB Queensland permalink
    January 10, 2022 8:43 pm

    I think you mean “comatose”

    Nah, I’m “waiting” too …

    because a state government organisation privided a medical exemption

    A state government does not have the legal power to provide any exemption to cross the Federal Border … try that in LA airport!!!!

  248. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 8:48 pm

  249. Dianne permalink
    January 10, 2022 8:50 pm

    Thought we had Dutton (and Howarth) last time but they won easily.

    Might have a better result this time. Certainly hope so.

  250. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 8:54 pm

    Nothing to do with Dan’s government…
    the medical panels that reviewed Djokovic’s application – one created by Tennis Australia and the other by the Victorian Health Department…

  251. TB Queensland permalink
    January 10, 2022 8:59 pm

    Seems Mother Goose has laid another lead egg … not only does Australia look like country of stupid bogans … but we now have to pay for Mother Goose’s political prancing — again!

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2022/jan/10/novak-djokovic-appeal-federal-circuit-court-cancellation-australian-visa-covid-vaccination-live-updates

    and amongst all this frippery …

    https://www.themandarin.com.au/178483-australia-to-buy-new-tanks-and-combat-vehicles-for-3-5b-from-us/

    Australia has not used tanks since the Vietnam War …

    Why do politicians* make purchase decisions for military weapons?

    *Potatoes

  252. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 9:19 pm

    Remember how Dan said unvaccinated player would not compete in the Australian Open!!
    Then he created a panel to allow exemptions for unvaccinated players!!

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  253. January 10, 2022 9:22 pm

    “the medical panels that reviewed Djokovic’s application – one created by Tennis Australia and the other by the Victorian Health Department…”

    Ugh…ugh.. can’t … seem… to… see…where….this…says…..Dan Andrews…..is….responsible……for……visas…….perhaps…..you……..can….point…..that…..out…..

    *Didnt’ think so.

    “Some people don’t seem to understand how visas work” is the quote you used a couple of days ago if I’m not mistaken….
    🙄

    Fuckwit. 🙄

  254. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 9:25 pm

    You’re right! As if Dan is “responsible”. That’s an entirely inappropriate way to describe his role in government

  255. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 10, 2022 9:28 pm

    Unworldly and comatose!

  256. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 9:29 pm

    Fuckwit.

    Perceptive

    How piss poor is our cuntry that we lock up innocent refugees, for years, but crazy anti-vaxxers get to give us the run around

  257. Tom R permalink
    January 10, 2022 10:20 pm

  258. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 10, 2022 10:20 pm

    How piss poor is our cuntry that we lock up innocent refugees, for years,

    LABOR is responsible for that. In 2007 our detention centers were empty.

    Then Rudd/ALP/Evans abolished Howards Pacific Solution.

    50,000 boat people later Rudd/ALP/Evans/TomR have never apologised

    Other than destroying people lives why does the ALP exist??

  259. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 9:00 am

    Morning all, I’m just settling in with me popcorn to watch the days play. Should be an exciting one, as we watch reb patiently on the sidelines for yomm to provide him with an example of his elusive Novax support (must be in same box as mine?). But the true excitement will be waiting to see if yomm persists with his hand held shovel tactic, or pulls out the big guns and give Dial-A-Digger a call

    Either way, the real winners here are the anti-science crowd, ably supported, yet again, by the Australian Liberal party, just like they have been doing for over two decades now.

  260. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 11, 2022 9:50 am

    I just wish that Hawke would get on with his focus group testing and let us know whether he is going to compensate for his government’s incompetence.

    Ultimately though, I hope the Djoker wins the Open.

  261. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 9:56 am

    I hope the Djoker wins the Open.

    And Border Farce arrest him as he is being presented with the Trophy 🙂

  262. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 11, 2022 10:18 am

    So after Dan assuring the public that unvaccinated players would not be allowed to compete in the Australian Open, Dan’s government lured Djokovic here with their “medical exemption” , then he gets to stay because of a procedural error on arrival.
    Get rid of him!
    And what a humiliation for Dan, and his cheer club

  263. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 10:24 am

    Shit, yomms gone for the Excavator

    So after Dan assuring the public that unvaccinated players would not be allowed to compete in the Australian Open

    Dare I ask …… LINK?

  264. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 11, 2022 10:48 am

    Try this…what a humiliation for Dan and his cheer club
    Only vaccinated players allowed to compete in Australian Open, Daniel Andrews warns
    The Victorian premier says unvaccinated tennis players won’t be granted an exemption to enter the state from overseas to take part in the Australian Open, even if they spend two weeks in hotel quarantine.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sbs.com.au/eds/news/article/only-vaccinated-players-allowed-to-compete-in-australian-open-daniel-andrews-warns/dd437518-2647-4322-a603-3433e3607d3e%3famp=1

  265. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 10:52 am

    We’re not going to be applying for an exemption

    So, the Victorian Government applied for an exemption, did they?

    From my reading, Tennis Australia and the Government applied an exemption (according to Federal Regulations), they didn’t apply FOR one.

    In fact, they applied several.

  266. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 11, 2022 10:59 am

    As I said, Dan specifically assured the public that unvaccinated players would not be allowed to play. But the panel set up by his own government provided the “medical exemption”
    Please keep digging

  267. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 11:21 am

    Andrews very clearly said he would not be applying for an exception. If someone is technically vaccinated, as Novax appears to have been, then that doesn’t change what he has said. His words show that, had Novax not been provided an exception, he would not be applying for one, but Novax got an exception, and all Tennis Australia and Vic committee did was apply the rules.

    If I’m digging, then it’s in your hole 😉

    So, when you are ready, perhaps the link for where the Victorian Government applied to (someone) FOR an exception, as opposed to simply applying existing exceptions?

  268. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 11, 2022 11:34 am

    Hilarious! Dan’s medical panel provided the exemption!
    Dan said there would be none!
    Keep digging!

  269. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 11:39 am

    Dan said there would be none

    No he didn’t, he said he would apply for one. They didn’t? Unless, of course, you supply that elusive link.

    Otherwise, all they have done is apply the rules

  270. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 11, 2022 11:42 am

    It’s an absolute humiliation for Dan!
    Victorian Premier doubles down on stance against unvaccinated tennis players at Australian Open
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/100571898

  271. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 11:52 am

    but states would have to apply for an exemption to international travel laws.

    Did they apply for this exemption??

    LINK!

  272. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 11, 2022 12:18 pm

    * Dan says unvaccinated players can’t play in the Australian Open
    * Then his government sets up a panel to approve applications for exemption of unvaccinated players
    * Djokovic gets an exemption approved by this authority set up by Dan’s government
    * Djokovic celebrates this via social media
    * The federal government tried to prevent entry, but failed due to an administrative error by a public servant
    * Keep digging

  273. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 12:20 pm

    but failed due to an administrative error by a public servant

    Yea, right 😉

  274. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 11, 2022 12:27 pm

    This might be useful for Tom R and reb defending Dan

  275. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 1:12 pm

    So, an independent panel and Tennis Australia both acknowledge that, under federal guidelines, Novax is eligible to play, and yomm seems to think that that is the Andrews Government applying for a special exception for an unvaxed player.

    You and reading yomm, it just doesn’t mesh, does it 🙂

  276. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 1:24 pm

    yomms upset that Dictator Dan isn’t Dictator enough?

  277. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 11, 2022 1:37 pm

    Hilarious, there was no obligation on the Andrews government to set up a medical exemption panel. But they did, and they provided a medical exemptions to Djokovic
    Thanks Dan

  278. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 1:51 pm

    and they provided a medical exemptions to Djokovic

    In accordance with federal policy, just like Tennis Australia, and just like Border Farce.

    But, I’ll await that link where they applied for an exception? Shouldn’t be too hard to find

  279. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 11, 2022 2:13 pm

    Dan was vociferous in his assurance that unvaccinated players would not compete.
    He wasn’t required to set up a panel to approve applications for medical exemption from unvaccinated players. But he did, and exemptions were provided by his panel.
    Please keep digging

  280. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 2:28 pm

    Dan was vociferous in his assurance that unvaccinated players would not compete.

    And now you want him to be a Dictator to overturn a federal guideline?

  281. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 11, 2022 2:38 pm

    Dan’s panel provided the exemption. Dan’s government wasn’t required to establish a panel, but it did and for the sole purpose of reviewing applications for exemption.
    And that’s why Djokovic was able to turn up!
    I’m glad you understand that.
    I’ll look forward to reb’s humble retraction too

  282. TB Queensland permalink
    January 11, 2022 2:39 pm

    No links in tennis … only golf …

    At least ND can’t be accused of being on drugs … 😆 😶 😎

    BTW … score so far DEUCE!

  283. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 2:57 pm

    Dan’s panel provided the exemption

    No, they ticked off on the same one Border Farce and Tennis Australia did. Evn the Judge went out of his way to confirm that Novax had done all he could to tick those boxes.

    You seem to think Dictator Dan is running our immigration, when all he is doing is following the same rules everyone else is (except the feds, who wrote the bloody things)

    No links in tennis … only golf …
    🙂

    BTW 2.0

    The thicken plots

  284. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 11, 2022 3:15 pm

    Can you show where an exemption was issued by Border Force?
    Apparently when Dan says – unvaccinated players can’t play in the Australian Open, what he means is- my government will establish a panel to endorse applications for exemptions for unvaccinated players

  285. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 3:37 pm

    Can you show where an exemption was issued by Border Force?

    lol, linqs wants a link

    You remember back up, when a judge said wtte “I don’t know what more he could have done”?

  286. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 3:40 pm

  287. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 11, 2022 3:40 pm

    Yep, he had a medical exemption from the Victorian government
    Even though the guy in charge of the entire government said unvaccinated players would not compete

  288. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 3:46 pm

    Yep, he had a medical exemption from the Victorian government

    I’ll go really slow yomm

    Victoria can’t give exemptions to enter the cuntry, only Border Force can do that (this is not a hole any longer, it’s a fucking mine shaft lol)

  289. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 11, 2022 3:54 pm

    The medical panel established by Dan’s government reviewed the application by Djokovic and endorsed it.
    Ditto Tennis Australia.
    All this despite the assurance from Dan that unvaccinated players would not compete
    What an absolute humiliation for Dan

  290. TB Queensland permalink
    January 11, 2022 4:02 pm

    LOL! Did someone mention KFC? …………… aw, fk!

  291. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 4:20 pm

    hmm, no money for RATs, is it because we are being fleeced by the yanks?

  292. TB Queensland permalink
    January 11, 2022 4:43 pm

    TR, Jommy Tee’s weekends must be fkd … an electric Hilux?

    BTW 3.0 Did you see the article I linked to above … January 10, 2022 8:59 pm

    I know you’ve been busy returning serve … 😉

    Wonder if ToM has worked out my gravatar yet? 😎

  293. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 4:59 pm

    BTW 3.0 Did you see the article I linked to above

    The one about Novax allegedly lying?

    Who know what is real here. You have a group of inveterate liars now accusing someone else of lying. Time will tell. I don’t know that much about Novax, but he seems like a bit of a dill at the best.

    All I know is, our government has politicised this from the get go, and they will continue to (see yomms hole 😉 )

  294. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 5:04 pm

    Wonder if ToM has worked out my gravatar yet

    Was I close with my guess?

  295. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 11, 2022 6:22 pm

    “”””Victoria can’t give exemptions to enter the cuntry, only Border Force can do that (this is not a hole any longer, it’s a fucking mine shaft lol)”””

    OK but why did the Victorian government deceive the guy by saying it was OK for him to come??

  296. January 11, 2022 8:06 pm

    The above illustrates that ‘facts’ while necessary (indeed essential) in any debate, they are never sufficient in themselves. The problem, in part at least, is that ‘facts’ are always almost infinite in number.

    As any historian will attest, the problem is not the shortage of facts but their overabundance. Indeed, it’s what (facts) to leave out rather than what to include. Then there’s the further problem(s) of the weight and the meaning(s) to be attributed once a selection’s been made.

  297. January 11, 2022 8:07 pm

    “why did the Victorian government deceive the guy by saying it was OK for him to come??”

    There isn’t any ‘deception’.

    He could’ve been invited to a wedding but he still needs a fkn visa if he’s not an Australian citizen.

  298. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 11, 2022 9:05 pm

    Yeah! Just because Dan said unvaccinated players can’t compete in the Australian Open, and then sets up a panel to approve applications from unvaccinated players, doesn’t mean anything!
    Where’s that dredger? A couple of people here are keen to keep digging

  299. TB Queensland permalink
    January 11, 2022 9:13 pm

    The one about Novax allegedly lying?

    Tanks!

    Was I close with my guess?

    Too subtle??? Or missed?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    OK but why did the Victorian government deceive the guy by saying it was OK for him to come??

    Who controls the NATIONAL* border? — think about it before you answer

    *Not STATE …

    And as reb states … he still needs a fkn visa

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    As any historian will attest,

    Usually from many years after the event … this is happening NOW! Oh. Yeah so many facts … what fkn “facts” How wonderful! 🤪

    The world is dying and ……………………………………..

  300. Tony permalink
    January 11, 2022 9:33 pm

    PSA

  301. Tom R permalink
    January 11, 2022 11:07 pm

    Too subtle??? Or missed?

    Too oblique probably TB

    “To some, 1972 is dated TB”

    And I’ll add “Kelly” to the mix 😉

  302. Tom R permalink
    January 12, 2022 9:56 am

    Let it rip is doing well, aint it

    The economy doesn’t work if people can’t work. So the first economic priority during a pandemic must be to keep people healthy enough to keep working, producing, delivering and buying.

    That some political and business leaders have, from the outset of COVID-19, consistently downplayed the economic costs of mass illness, reflects a narrow, distorted economic lens. We’re now seeing the result – one of the worst public policy failures in Australia’s history.

    https://theconversation.com/healthy-humans-drive-the-economy-were-now-witnessing-one-of-the-worst-public-policy-failures-in-australias-history-174606

  303. Tom R permalink
    January 12, 2022 9:58 am

    Wonder what mining machinery yomms pulling out today 🙂

    Hope it is along these lines

  304. TB Queensland permalink
    January 12, 2022 10:17 am

    So the first economic priority during a pandemic must be to keep people healthy enough to keep working, producing, delivering and buying.

    How many years ago was this subject discussed …

    Eventually they catch up …

    I prefer to live in a society, not survive in an economy!

  305. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 12, 2022 11:56 am

    Let’s hope they deport that lying cheat, Djokovic

  306. Tom R permalink
    January 12, 2022 12:04 pm

    Let’s hope they deport that lying cheat, Djokovic

    Yea, c’mon Dan, what’s stopping you? PUSSY!

  307. January 12, 2022 12:55 pm

    Ok, one last attempt for those who are intellectually challenged…

    Let’s say I’m an overseas student and apply to do a course at TAFE and get accepted.

    When I arrive in Australia, the Immigration dept refuses entry because I don’t have the correct visa to study in Australia.

    The fact that I don’t have the correct visa isn’t TAFE’s fault.

    I hope this helps those who are a bit slow on the uptake.

    Apologies in advance if it doesn’t but I don’t have the crayons to explain it any simpler terms.

  308. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 12, 2022 1:09 pm

    Hilarious!
    A more realistic comparison.
    The state minister for education says- foreign students are no longer able to enroll in TAFE hairdressing courses. But then he sets up an expert panel to endorse exemptions for foreign students that wish to enroll in a hairdressing course
    Hope that helps for those that struggle with the concept of “responsibility”

  309. January 12, 2022 1:17 pm

    “A more realistic comparison”

    I must’ve missed the bit where you explain how visas – you know the actual issue at hand – are administered by the Federal Govt.

    Just pointing that out because you seem to have no fucking idea.

  310. Tom R permalink
    January 12, 2022 1:44 pm

    yomm failed to mention whose reality he was talking about.

    Hope that clears things up 😉

  311. TB Queensland permalink
    January 12, 2022 2:17 pm

  312. January 12, 2022 2:22 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  313. January 12, 2022 2:27 pm

    If Gutter Trash was a TV news channel…

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  314. Tom R permalink
    January 12, 2022 2:38 pm

    He he he, imagine Novax having to be deported because he lied 🙂

  315. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 12, 2022 3:27 pm

    Hilarious!
    Here’s someone who thinks a conditional electronic bias, that is subject to review, is unconditional.
    Meanwhile, let’s excuse Dan, who said- unvaccinated players can’t play, but then set up a system to allow them to play!!

  316. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 12, 2022 3:30 pm

    bias visa
    Although “bias” seems suitable given the ignorance of the visa system among the Djokovic cheer club here

  317. January 12, 2022 4:05 pm

    Here’s someone who can’t get it through his thick fucking skull that visas are not a State Govt responsibility…

    🙄

  318. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 12, 2022 4:24 pm

    Hilarious!
    Here’s someone who is desperately trying to find an excuse for Dan saying “unvaccinated players can’t play in the Australian Open”
    Then settings up the system to approve unvaccinated players playing in the Australian Open!
    (and no compression of how electronic visas operate)

  319. January 12, 2022 4:57 pm

    I have nothing further to add as some dumb fuckwits still can’t comprehend that Immigration and everything that goes along with it (such as the issuing and checking of visas) is a Federal Govt responsibility. Which I think I have mentioned several times now.

    🙄

  320. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 12, 2022 5:05 pm

    The fuckwits are the ones who can’t comprehend how electronic visas operate.
    Australia has 10 million visitors a year. So human review of electronic visas means either-
    * thousands of extra public servants to review visa applications, or
    * special treatment for celebrities ( if we “sort it out in advance”)
    Meanwhile the fact that Dan set up a system to facilitate the entry of the very tennis players he repeatedly assured the public wouldn’t play, is dutifully ignored

  321. TB Queensland permalink
    January 12, 2022 5:17 pm

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 😌😌😌😌

  322. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 12, 2022 5:24 pm

    I should have added 😂 x a few hundred

  323. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 13, 2022 8:44 am

    Is Paul Bongiorno ever wrong?

    Veteran political journalist Paul Bongiorno reports Mr Hawke will kick Djokovic out.

    “I am hearing @AlexHawkeMP will boot out the Joker tomorrow,” Bongiorno tweeted on Wednesday night.

  324. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 13, 2022 10:02 am

    Bonkers Bongiorno is not very bright and not very perceptive. He lived with one of Australia’s most prolific pedophiles yet claimed to know nothing even though one of the victims gave evidence that he had informed Bongiorno about his sexual abuse.

  325. January 13, 2022 10:23 am

    92,264 new cases in NSW….!

    “GOLD STANDARD!”

    “NSW is leading the country out of covid” says the Premier…

  326. January 13, 2022 10:25 am

    47 mild deaths reported so far today.

  327. Tom R permalink
    January 13, 2022 11:10 am

    I wonder if NSW has changed their reporting on the deaths yet reb?

  328. TB Queensland permalink
    January 13, 2022 11:19 am

    Dan Andrews Vindicated!

    Melbourne businesses say Omicron wave more damaging than lockdown

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/13/code-red-melbourne-businesses-say-omicron-wave-more-damaging-than-lockdown

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    As for Veteran political journalist Paul Bongiorno reports Mr Hawke will kick Djokovic out.

    Not only will Novaxxer Djokerbitch be deported he will risk* three years jail when he lands in Serbia …

    *Fk the fine … money’s no object.

    What a coincidence, “The November Man”, was on TV last night.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    In other “good” news looks like a senior executive of the UK’s longest running bullshit business*, The Firm, is to go to trial … a GoFundMe page has not been started — yet

    The CEO will not be pleased.

    Sort of vindicates Harry, hey?

  329. Tom R permalink
    January 13, 2022 11:25 am

    LET IT RIP!

  330. January 13, 2022 2:42 pm

    60% of people who died with Covid overnight in NSW were vaccinated.

    But it was a mild flu-like death so there’s nothing to worry about.

  331. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 13, 2022 3:07 pm

    So the 7% that are unvaccinated, made up 40% of the deaths.
    In other words you’re about 6 times more likely to die from covid if you’re unvaccinated.
    Meanwhile, we should remind ourselves that 4000 died from the flu and pneumonia a just few years ago.

  332. Tom R permalink
    January 13, 2022 3:16 pm

    47 died today yomm.

    Don’t play this stupid game, you suck at it.

  333. Tom R permalink
    January 13, 2022 3:35 pm

    “In 2020 there was a decrease in mortality in Australia. ”

    Then the pm got his way, and we are now on track to eclipse by a mile our worst ever year with the flu.

    Like I said yomm, you suck at this

  334. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 13, 2022 3:51 pm

    You don’t like context

  335. Tom R permalink
    January 13, 2022 3:58 pm

    I resupplied the context for you in quotes dopey [facepalm]

  336. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 13, 2022 4:13 pm

    47 deaths, as well as about another 500 from other causes, but let’s not be concerned about that

  337. Back In Some Form`Teabag permalink
    January 13, 2022 4:17 pm

    We had front row seats to this theatre of mass confusion. The tinfoil committee of project repug crashed their way thru a dozen plod and in a few short moments reduced their nations elite to a pile of quivering rubble. You know this because tbagz knows this.`

  338. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 13, 2022 5:27 pm

    60% of people who died with Covid overnight in NSW were vaccinated.

    Maybe the vaccine killed them and if they didn’t get it they would still be alive.

  339. TB Queensland permalink
    January 13, 2022 6:02 pm

    Meanwhile, we should remind ourselves that 4000 died from the flu and pneumonia a just few years ago.

    Is that so?

    Let’s look at the stats with a link.

    Click to access Influenza-Report-30-October-2019.pdf

    However predictions were different …

    Here’s another linque

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/may/07/flu-experts-predict-4000-australians-will-die-from-influenza-this-year

    Now what you have to decide is whether you “see” the predictions, or “look” at the facts

  340. TB Queensland permalink
    January 13, 2022 6:04 pm

    Maybe the vaccine killed them and if they didn’t get it they would still be alive.

    Is that you Scotty?

  341. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 13, 2022 6:10 pm

    Comprehension isn’t your strong point TB.
    Try reading my comment again and look up the data I referred to

  342. Neil of Sydney permalink
    January 13, 2022 6:17 pm

    Is that you Scotty?

    I thought a bit about making my comment. You can be banned from lots of sites making comments like i did.

  343. TB Queensland permalink
    January 13, 2022 7:31 pm

    Try reading my comment again and look up the data I referred to

    What year were you referring to … its not a fkn quiz show … you wrote …

    Meanwhile, we should remind ourselves that 4000 died from the flu and pneumonia a just few years ago

    I can find no records that relate to the statement referring to 4000 deaths back to 1990 …

    Please enlighten me .. with a linc*

  344. TB Queensland permalink
    January 13, 2022 7:45 pm

    https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/3303.0~2017~Main%20Features~Australia's%20leading%20causes%20of%20death,%202017~2

    Is this what you are referring to …

    I checked your “linx” to ABS stats …

  345. January 13, 2022 7:46 pm

    Please enlighten me .. with a linc*

    Don’t hold your breath.

  346. January 13, 2022 7:51 pm

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  347. January 13, 2022 7:56 pm

    A record 92,000 COVID cases reported overnight in NSW and you don’t hear a fkn peep from YoM.

    Odd innit.*

    * Not really. 🙄

  348. January 13, 2022 8:39 pm

    Whingeing Unions…what would they know… 🙄

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  349. January 13, 2022 10:47 pm

    While the Novak decision will be divisive (a mixture of claps and boos), it will also be an unrivalled opportunity to distract – (Look over there).

    An opportunity not to be wasted. Morrison knows that.

  350. Tom R permalink
    January 14, 2022 7:18 am

    Whingeing Unions…what would they know

    Wonder how the companies who have spent their time attacking Unions feel now? The real enemy was beside them the whole time

  351. Tom R permalink
    January 14, 2022 7:20 am

    #justaFlu

  352. Tom R permalink
    January 14, 2022 7:25 am

    #DictatorDan

  353. Tom R permalink
    January 14, 2022 7:30 am

    #JustAFlu

  354. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 14, 2022 8:32 am

    Yes, as I said the objective of vaccination was to turn covid into the flu.
    For the European Union, the U.S. and Latin America, the latest case fatality rate is 0.5%, 0.4% and 0.3%, respectively, down from a high of 4% to 7% during the Delta wave in June. If we add in the legions of asymptomatic, mild and untested cases, the true Omicron mortality is likely around 0.2%, roughly in line with seasonal flu.

  355. January 14, 2022 9:21 am

    “as I said the objective of vaccination was to turn covid into the flu.”

  356. Tom R permalink
    January 14, 2022 9:24 am

    lol reb

    #JustAFlu

  357. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 14, 2022 11:23 am

    “Yes you are right”

    Good thing nobody here is a fool or there’d be nobody to argue with. Otherwise we would all have to get a life!

  358. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 14, 2022 11:26 am

    Prince Andrew stripped … and this time not by a teenager!

  359. TB Queensland permalink
    January 14, 2022 11:26 am

    So, let me get this right … until/unless we surpass 4000 Covid deaths in a year we are only dealing with a mild flu?

  360. TB Queensland permalink
    January 14, 2022 11:29 am

    Otherwise we would all have to get a life!

    Yes you are right … 😎

  361. TB Queensland permalink
    January 14, 2022 11:38 am

    Occupy Centrelink wrote:

    The difference between the Black Death and Covid 19 is that they had an oversupply of rats in 1340

    Luv it!

  362. Tom R permalink
    January 14, 2022 12:16 pm

    Yes you are right …

    I AGREE!

    Luv it!

    oh, we have rats, hopefully they will be getting voted out soon though

    #JustAFlu

  363. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 14, 2022 1:33 pm

    So we got lucky, being an island, and were able to flatten the curve when the most lethal variants were around.

    The question now is whether the pandemic ends because we get herd immunity from infection with newer and hopefully less lethal strains or because we get herd immunity from having jabs every six months? Given that Covid is a respiratory virus, regular jabs like with the flu seems likely.

    At the moment “immunity” from the vaccine seems to be more about lessening symptoms than preventing contagion.

  364. Splatterbottom permalink
    January 14, 2022 2:02 pm

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