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Kids!!! Old enough to fly an aircraft, but too young to use a forklift

I thought you were concerned about safety and young people

I thought you were concerned about safety and young people

You understand that doing something for a hobby, is a little different than doing something for a living?

Well, I would hope you do anyway

* Fly an aircraft
* Own a gun
* Join the armed forces

Operating a backhoe is apparently safe for a 16 year old child

* Join the armed forces
* Operate heavy machinery
* Fly an aircraft
* Obtain a firearms licence
…all safe for children

…all safe for children

Caveats apply ..

You seem to miss the point.
The case was brought by Djokovic, therefore the onus of proof is with him.
All the respondent (the government) has to do is advise why the decision was in accordance with legislation
Game, set and match to the government
Let’s hope Djokovic sues the government, so that his marketability can be further diminished

Yes, and it was up to the lying anti vaxer to demonstrate that the decision was illegal or unreasonable. He didn’t and the only people who seem bothered are anti vaxers, conspiracy theorists and weird nutcases

It’s a question of if you like living in a Danistan, a real one this time
Yes, I’ve noticed that Djokovic is the poster boy for freedumb lovers as as well as anti vaxer conspiracy theorist nutcases

So it’s not about safety?

What a shitshow, all of it

Stokes paying for smith, costello paying for the alleged rapist.

Yea, everything’s cool with our media

Even our judiciary has become right wing

What?? This country is becoming more left-wing every day. What is right-wing about the current Coalition govt??

Fact is you will not be happy until we have left wing socialism everywhere

“allegedly disadvantaged” 😯

What a shit show

Thanks MN.

TB is wrong as usual.

Gerrymandering is a a pastime often played at by the LNP in Queensland …

Especially in the (Country Party) Nationals’ “heydays” with JBP …

The gerrymander was started by the ALP back in the day when they had strong representation in country areas.

It turned round to bite them in the bum when rural voters started voting for the Country Party

Did anyone take any notice of the publicity blitz by the ARM regarding their “model” for an Australian head of state?
What a complete debacle, an embarrassment and typical of any organisation that Fitzsimmons is involved with.

Maybe MN and TB are both right.

MN is right. This is what Joh Bjelke-Peterson said about Labors gerrymander from MNs link

The newly elected Country Party MP for Nanango, Joh Bjelke-Petersen, spoke out against the redistribution, saying that it meant that “the majority will be ruled by the minority” and that the Labor government was telling the people “whether you like it or not, we will be the Government”.

TB

The fact is Labor started the gerrymander in 1949. Then later it started to favor the Nationals.
But it did not favor the Coalition very often. It favored the Nationals over the Liberals. So the Libs got more votes but the Nationals got more seats.

But the worst gerrymander was in the 2014 South Australia State election. The Liberals got 53% of the vote and lost. Normally 53% is a landslide victory. Labor won with 47% of the vote.

Re – “… fact is Labor started the gerrymander in 1949”

And you seem to think that choice to ‘gerrymander’ was reprehensible. Yes or No?

Assuming it was reprehensible, what say you about those who went down the same path? Are they better or worse? Or just the same?

What do you believe was the ‘right’ course of action? What do you think was the ‘good’ way to proceed? Should both political organisations be condemned?

China’s Communist Party accused of influencing Australia’s Chinese-language media

Nah, the dumb shit just didn’t pay his bills. Sounds on brand.

LAZIEST GRUBMINT EVA

I guess everyone’s is a pedophile to splattanon 😉

Pretty sure it’s not restricted to, but it also isn’t as permeated as you like to pretend

A column would have been written about how it was rude of her not to go if she didn't.

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I think ALP politicians might go close to surpassing them in frequency

Hilarious!!
Just ignore the facts
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_politicians_convicted_of_crimes

I’ll wait for the full retraction when others have checked the facts

we are now locked into the neoliberal profit model

I think the model we are locked into is govt spending solves all problems

RATs are readily available across Thailand (in dispensing machines) for 100 Baht each (which coverts to A$4.23 at today’s price.)

Guess Morrison hasn’t God on his side.

Guess Morrison hasn’t God on his side.

Could just be a different one? (in this case, pretty sure the gOD is money)

The UK are debating birthdays, and over here, we are patiently mansplaining smiling ettiquette

What a year to be alive.

Heavens!! Was Andrew O’Keefe at an official function with the Prime Minister when he did that?

I THIMK you’re hoping no-one will ask for details about your “thinking” again.

The ALP locked up 8,469 children from 2007-2013. Who knows what they will do if Labor wins the next election??

Re this O’Keefe fellow – “He’s been charged with two counts of intentionally choking a person without consent”

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/former-tv-host-andrew-okeefe-arrested-over-alleged-assault/news-story/7648de02c469f83a38313310bc0a1779

Dear oh dear – this ‘choking’ was ‘without consent’. If only Andy had waited for volunteers …

In the recent presidential election, Biden’s electoral support was analysed to be 61% ‘white’ plus 39% from ‘voters of color’ (VOC) while Trump’s breakdown was 85% ‘white’ with only 15 VOC. Clearly Biden (and the Democrats) is/are keen to hold on to that demographic. Probably why he’s signaled his intention early with the mid-terms entering the stage.

For politicians, ‘competence’ and a wide variety of other concepts is invariably viewed through a vote-winning lens.

https://www.vox.com/2021/5/10/22425178/catalist-report-2020-election-biden-trump-demographics

Neil, when you ‘invest’ do you ever borrow or simply just rely on your own reserves?

Further, are you aware that most successful companies are constantly in debt? The BHP Group for example had US$17.7b of debt in June 2021. Rio Tinto Debt amounts to $6.2 billion. Apple has about $113.8 billion in long-term debt.

Don’t you want the Australian to be a successful investor?

Neil, when you ‘invest’ do you ever borrow or simply just rely on your own reserves?

Govt debt is different to company debt and furthermore is damaging to the country.

Well we are about to find out if govt debt causes problems. There is no chance of Australia reducing govt debt for the next 50 years if ever

Tom – perhaps that’s why it’s called “unsustainable”? But then again, it might be useful to introduce two other concepts and their definitions?

“a proposition is knowable a priori if it is knowable independently of experience, while a proposition knowable a posteriori is knowable on the basis of experience.”

Investments are often risky – as ‘experience’ demonstrates

I remember all the stupid ALP supporters saying back in 2008 when we started running deficit budgets again about how low our debt was and not a problem.

Well it is not low anymore.

Anyone with a brain would know what Rudd/Swan/ALP would do to the budget

Tom, recurrent expenditure can also be conceptualised as capital expenditure.

Neil re – “why do you exist?”

Neil what type of answer are you looking for? Are you into metaphysics perchance? Epistemology? Axiology?

Or are you simply looking for a simple ” Please explain?

Coughing up for business and individual welfare isn’t capital expenditure in any economics dictionary I’ve seen

Tom, perhaps I should explain (and widen your knowledge in the process):

“human capital refers to the economic value of a worker’s experience and skills. Human capital includes assets like education, training, intelligence, skills, health, and other things employers value such as loyalty and punctuality. … Human capital is perceived to increase productivity and thus profitability”

At the state level, health and education expenditures are approximately half of total outlays. Both investments in human CAPITAL.

Tom – always important to define your terms – either implicitly or explicitly. For my part I’ve now done both.

Neil. how about sharing your investment strategy. Do you borrow or not?

The public debt is due to recurrent expenditure, not capital investment

The public debt is due to grifters pissing away $40 BILLION to their mates

Do you understand that there is capital investment and recurrent expenditure?
Coughing up for public service salaries and individual or corporate welfare payments, isn’t an investment.
Find a credible reference that calls recurrent expenditure a “capital investment” and let me know

Anyone who believes in MMT has totally lost it

Re – “Anyone who believes in MMT has totally lost it”

So are you saying the concept of MMT doesn’t exist? Or are you suggesting that the concept is not ‘useful’ in understanding or even creating an intellectual reality?

BTW, how’s your answer re investment strategy coming along? A ‘borrower’? Or not? Simple question!

MMT is a theory that has a range of ill informed supporters. When pressed for examples of its success they usually point to Japan, as if that society in steep social and economic decline is one we should emulate.
The adherents of MMT are similar to the 1970s fossil fuels lobbyists- “it’s all going to be fine”
It’s a marginal economic theory that few experts in the relevant discipline support.
But…the notion that recurrent spending on corporate and individual welfare is a “capital investment” is also a marginal notion

So are you saying the concept of MMT doesn’t exist?

Modern Monetary Theory sounds crazy to me. Apparently it says if you have a sovereign currency govt spending and debt do not matter. If it sounds too good to be true it most probably is.

Bit like Central Banks would sound crazy if you understood how they function.

How true. The same could be said of all banking practices. It’s all a ponzi scheme. I recall watching Trading Places all those years ago, thinking, how simplistic it sounds, and how outrageous if that’s all it really was, surely there is something deeper.

Turns out, that’s all there is to it. They even introduced the ‘Eddie Murphy’ rule to prevent it happening again.

Plug one hole …..

MMT is just Keynesian Theory with more leeway from what I can gather. Probably something to it, but so many just think it’s a blank recipe to print money. I don’t think that is it’s meaning however.

A country with a sovereign currency gets a blank cheque to spend.

At least here, the blank cheque only goes to certain players [sarc]

Hard to know why they don’t want a Federal ICAQ

Economic theories are many and varied. Certainly number in double digits.

https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/economic-theory-types

But as many point out the theory employed at any moment in time is essentially ‘political’. Indeed it might be argued that politics and economics should never be separated.(Thanks Ted Wheelwright.)

Of recent times, Morrison et al adopted strategies that have much in common with the MMT rationale. Business was in trouble so MMT became the metaphorical ‘port in a storm’. (Of course, it didn’t get recognised by name but had many of the hallmarks.)

(Of course, it didn’t get recognised by name but had many of the hallmarks.)

There must be a difference between deficit spending and MMT but i do not know what it is.

Look at US debt level as it approaches $30 trillion.

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

Probably a need for new theoretical approach(s).

Always unlimited spending for “war toys”. Planes that don’t fly etc …

So Neil, the Japanese govt can rely on the assets of “Toyota, Sanyo, Honda, Nissan, Fujitsu etc.”

Using that insane logic the Australian government can rely on BHP, the big 4 Banks, etc, etc.

As for the US debt being owned by locals. that will come as major surprise to the UK, Japan, China etc

US debt like Australian debt is payable using a ‘fiat’ currency. And they can’t run out of that.

Using that insane logic the Australian government can rely on BHP, the big 4 Banks, etc, etc.

I am talking about the vast overseas assets countries like Japan and the USA have. We have nothing compared to them.

As for the US debt being owned by locals. that will come as major surprise to the UK, Japan, China etc

I believe 70% of USA govt debt is owned by locals. 30% is owned by China, Japan etc. Furthermore the USA has vast overseas assets that can cover the 30% of foreign debt they have. Japan is the same. Their govt debt is large but it is owned by Japanese pension funds Super funds or whatever types of funds they have in Japan where people put their money.

In contrast 70% of our govt debt is foreign and we have few overseas assets to cover that foreign debt.

The simple question to the proponents of [insert any financial theory here] is-

I mean, we were told by economic geniuses that Labors debt was unsustainable, then they went Keynesian with steroids

But then failed to actually take care of what they were spending it on.
oops, $60 Billion out on the eleventy calculator, doesn’t matter
Big business, nah, you don’t need to prove you need it, just take it
workers .. GIVE IT BACK. NOW! oh, what’s that, your boss kept it? Give it back anyway!

TomR

Your link proves my point. Here is the title of your first link

Not one of the prime minister’s claims about the ‘budget emergency’
stacks up against a simple fact check – and here’s the evidence

I will say it again.

Most people seem to think govt debt is not a problem.

TomR

I see by “economic geniuses” you meant the Coalition. I thought you were talking about most economists and ALP type people who do not think govt debt is a problem

Look a MNs posts above. Most people from “”the left”” of politics do not think govt debt is a problem.

We shall see.

The adherents to MMT will try to persuade people that debt isn’t a problem.
They’re like a combination of 1970s fossil fuel lobbyists and current climate change deniers.
* What could possibly go wrong
* Ignore the findings of the overwhelming majority of experts in the discipline
* If there’s a problem, let future generations fix it

Dear oh dear, there seems little understanding of the need to ‘invest’. During the mining boom, BHP. for example, ran large and repeated “budget deficits”. That is, BHP spent far more than it earned. And shareholders reaped billions in dividends and watched their share price grow. Win, win for all involved. Today, BHP remains the biggest ‘taxpayer’ in Australia while still with considerable debt.

But I suppose some enjoy wallowing in ignorance.

One of the real scandals we face in Australia is the massive underutilization of labour power (including intellectual capital) when there’s so many opportunities (and needs) to be met..

So, come out from under the metaphorical doona, look around, borrow to invest and create a better reality. Stop selling off our assets and instead borrow, borrow to invest so that our children inherit a much richer Australia.

MN

There is a big difference between BHP borrowing money to hunt for an oil field which if found will pay back the investment and govt spending which is a bottomless pit.

Neil – yes sometimes some investments, even with the best of intentions, are “bottomless pits”. But we live in a society where even evident “bottomless pits” are afforded opportunity.

Heard of Peter Doherty? An example of a good investment? And there are many. many others.

Then again …

Are nuclear submarines, fighter aircraft, attack drones, armoured vehicles (tanks, personnel carriers) a government capital investment or debt “vehicles”?

Yep, a waste of money and non-productive as well.

We have been deficit spending since 2007, Costello’s last budget. One trillion dollars of deficit spending. I doubt we got value for money.

“Though Shalt Not Lie”

Aged care giant Anglicare Sydney has misled a government inquiry by claiming to be in serious financial difficulty – when it’s actually awash with cash, notching up record revenues, and is one of the nation’s richest organisations holding well over $2 billion in assets.

https://www.theklaxon.com.au/home/anglicares-billions-ceo-misleads-inquiry

Really, fuck xtians, they are heartless beasts. They suck off the taxpayer teat, provided by another so-called xtian, and then abuse and torment our elderly for profit. It’s disgusting. The sooner Government takes control of these places, the better. Of course, the Government needs to return to being a place that takes responsibility. There is a lot of work to do.

Dirty floors, ant-infested bedding, residents left sitting in soiled incontinence pads for hours, horrendous food and “virtual” wound inspections. It’s one year since the end of the Newmarch House Covid-19 outbreak. The media circus and regulators have moved on…And things are even worse than before.

https://www.theklaxon.com.au/home/newmarch-one-year-on