Scott Morrison explains: “Why God abandoned me.”

Does this mean that The Great Replacement Theory is now alive and well here in Australia?

Suspect that Sky is already writing that script because … it works in the USA.

Hallelujah and praise be to that fella upstairs👏 You done good 😊

So what is this ‘business of government’ of which you speak? Legislative agenda? Administrative reform? A bit of each?

The Tealers have thrown all sides of politics into confusion and panic. Members of the Liberal Party might have to ‘hit the books’ and discover what Locke et al meant by ‘liberalism’ and in so doing might decide that the ‘liberal ideology’ is really not what they are on about.

Dutton and ‘liberalism’ are at opposite ends of the ideological spectrum.

But never mind, George Brandis is packing his bags for the return journey as is Arthur Sinodinos. Will Bracks be resurrected? Rudd? (Never mind the denials.) The phones will be running hot.

I thought you knew something about the stuff governments do, MN.
Remember how they need a majority to remain in government? And that trying to round up a handful of media hungry, brand new politicians is a difficult and distracting for leadership?
It’s a complication the new government won’t face.
They can pay lip service to the Teals, or they can ignore them.
I’d recommend ignoring them

The Teals should form a political party and get off the teat of Holmes à Court.
Otherwise they just remain a rabble of media seeking opportunists

The teal big wheel has no appeal

Did you know-
* Monique Ryan had a policy regarding respect for women?
* Her major financier was filmed bullying a woman at the polling station ?
…but that was probably fine, because the woman was a political opponent

Re:

Her major financier

Are you referring to Hume?

Note well. Really powerful people don’t bother ‘bullying’ individuals but concentrate on constructing ‘ideological common sense’ and then leave the selecting of candidates to those so imbued.

There’s a mountain of literature on the subject. Do try to keep up.

Does Josh normally walk around armed with a camera? Does Jane always appear to be so well scripted?

Reminded me of an episode of Candid Camera .

Perhaps Josh can take it to the Court of Disputed Returns?

Get a life! You lost big time. Sulk in private. It’s more dignified.

That’s the way Tom R.
Blame the woman
Holmes à Court approached her. She asked him to leave, but apparently that’s not enough for the cheer club

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Yes, so being an assertive woman gives a big rich guy the right to get in her face

He approached her and made a demand.
At a polling station where everyone was being orderly and polite.
But keep blaming the woman
You let your politics get in the way of your sense of fairness

You’re excusing a big rich guy who-
* Approached a woman at an orderly polling station
* Made demands
* Got in her face
…but according to you, she deserved it
Got a mirror? Use it

* Approached a woman at an orderly polling station
*Introduced himself
* Got called an asshole
* Asked her to remove the lies she had published
* Continued to get screamed at

Mirror mirror, on the wall.

Re:

Labor would be smart imo to work with these Teals (and Greens) even if they do have a majority.

Indeed they must. The new kids on the block will want things, and be in a hurry, but the arrival of an ICAC (or equivalent) will complicate things exponentially, particularly if it has retrospective powers.

What must be clarified is the (proper) role of Ministers, staffers as well as other MPs when it comes to the making of representations. What is proper, where is the line that must not be crossed.

In recent times, we witnessed sports rorts and carparks, etc etc. This lack of clarity caused a Premier to fall on her sword as others before her did.

In one camp, we have Barnaby, Morrison, Gladys et al who believe that it’s fit and proper to overturn decisions/recommendations made by Officials on the grounds that MPs are elected and officials/public servants aren’t. (Simplistic nonsense but appealing to some.)

Others argue that such decision making can be akin to pork barreling . There’s no rational decision-making , no transparency, conflicts of interest abound, queue jumping becomes normal etc.

A recent inquiry in NSW looked at the issue, agreed it was a problem but failed to provide a comprehensive solution (suggesting, lamely, that transparency would help.) Can’t see how the NSW ICAC can dodge the issue also, because it’s at the core of what many MPs see as their legitimate role.

It’s an issue that must be resolved and quickly because it affects, MPs, Ministers, ministerial staff as well as public servants. An Integrity Commission will (and should be) watching and therefore likely to cause some paralysis.

Someones sounding jealous 🙂

The “if only(s)” have started.

Former deputy prime minister Michael McCormack has said the Coalition would have performed better in the federal election if he was the leader of the National party.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-23/michael-mccormack-coalition-result-better-under-his-leadership/101091684

Seems Barnaby will be forever a drag on a Liberal resurrection.

Perhaps if he had a new partner? More offspring? Or both?

Time we get behind Peter Dutton and support his quest to be the Leader of the Liberal Party.

They deserve each other so it’s only fitting.

Thoughts and prayers please!

The ‘small target’ strategy has finally been seen through

Not sure that Labor having a (narrow) majority (at best) in its own right is the best option. With The Tealers and The Greens totally opposed to new fossil fuel mines a defeat on the floor on the House would be a very poor look. Remember, Labor did make supporting noises re new mining projects. There will be ‘broken promises (real and Imagined).

Better to do some horse trading in the back rooms before any public humiliation.

Imagine that the ‘hard heads’ within the ministerial ranks are working long hours identifying who said what and identifying staffers within each ministerial office to keep a close eye on potential ‘thorns’ within the cross-bench.

This is going to be a wild ride.

The ALP won

Could we please refer to them now only as the “Australian 30% Party”, it seems this is how the msm would like us to. “Moving Forward”

Re Ralph Babet – perhaps the new UAP Senator from VIC:

Babet also tweeted glowingly about Elon Musk and was stoked about his proposed takeover of Twitter.

Doesn’t he post here? Or just another freedom boy. So many these days.

Speaking of no shame

Do ‘elites’ have chefs?

Good to see you are taking this so well splats 🙂

It’s confirmed.

They’re going home to Biloela.

So people who jump the queue are rewarded under Labor? While the really needy people are stuck in camps around the world. Typical.

But i must admit you have to admire the bravery of boat people. Personally if i was safe in Indonesia i would not make the terrifying and dangerous journey to Australia

Can’t nominate a Teal (no experience)

You don’t need ‘experience’, you just need brains. After the ineptitude of the past 9 years, fucken Toto could do a better job

As I’ve said, there was total bipartisan complacency about the insidious manipulation of Australian institutions by the CCP for a decade.
Until Clive Hamilton shamed both parties into acting.
The talk about “diplomacy” is crap, it shows ignorance about the subject.
Diplomacy represents action and words that stop short of deployment of the military.
The CCP –
* sees Australia as a quarry
* wants trading servants, no partners
* has no respect for polite conversation
* only reacts to pressure and pain

* sees Australia as a quarry
* wants trading servants, no partners
* has no respect for polite conversation
* only reacts to pressure and pain

Didn’t we just vote them out?

Until Clive Hamilton shamed both parties into acting.

So, that was released back before Rudd went to China and berated them, in Mandarin, about their human rights record?

Or before Labor didn’t even let Huawei tender for the NBN?

Or when Labor were called racist for fighting to keep Australian jobs while the libs were trying to negotiate them away in the CHAFTA?

Which one did these proceed again?

You’re settling a different standard on discourse with the CCP because of their military muscle.
That’s forelock tugging/brown nosing/sucking up

Voldemort AAAGGHHH!

Meanwhile

Mad f*cking witch
Dirty lefties
Crazy lefties
Water lapping at your door
Women trying it on
Ali uses disability as an excuse
African gangs

(At least he’s not a Monster) 😉

I find it embarrassing the way MN and TB advocate the cowering stance in foreign policy.
…”they might throw a punch, it’s best be just do what we’re told”
How assertive and responsible

you might upset a bully if you speak

Who was the bully again?

you might upset a bully if you speak

Did our (previous) Government bully a sovereign nation to try and help interfere with an Australian election?

Aren’t there laws about that?

That sounds like political behaviour. Remember…
Boris’ latest Dan’s tactic is to unashamedly say – I accept full responsibility .

And then nothing happens. That’s the end of the matter. No penalty. No consequences.

Around the world, the democratic facade we have is in decline.

Maybe that’s what you would think if you ignore the facts.
* There are more opportunities for people to express their views and press the government, than at any other time in modern history
* There are more political parties that allow people to differentiate between policies than at any time
* The traditional press is in decline and clearly is impotent in rounding up people to support their candidates
* Anyone with a mobile phone can access any media outlet in the world
* Western democracies are realising that they are threatened by authoritarian regimes, and are resisting

Then it’s your use of “facade” that is incorrect.
Countries that have maintained their strong democratic institutions (here, for example, despite the long term strategy of the CCP) …are as committed to the democratic system of government as ever.

Big Party in Biloela tonight … !

So the queue jumpers have won.

Would your opinion be the same if 20 million people came here by boat?

Most of these people are here because we have a better lifestyle

Ah TB – the USA is the (modern) home of a particular and peculiar type of democracy . Where citizens get to elect their representatives, only to see such reps bought by those who have the dollars and the inclination.

There (as here), the Citizens (often information and attitude poor) mark a ballot paper or two and then proceed to buy a sausage and retorn to slumber for a few more years, thinking that they have a healthy democracy .

We have the technology to facilitate a more participatory democracy but no side of the aisle is in the least bit interested in taking up that cause. And maybe for very good reason, because a real democracy might not work. So we will continue with the farce.

It really is a sick country …

I sort of agree but it is still better than most. I would live there.

But it was news to me that we had the right to bear arms here until Howard/Coalition took away that right. You should see the abuse Howard gets from Coalition supporters for taking away their guns.

Have you ever been there?

Yep i worked in the USA. I have to say i never saw any guns in private hands. It is an OK place to live. They do knot know much about the outside world.

But it was the Coalition in this country who brought in gun control. I had no idea we had a gun culture in this country not much difference to the USA before 1996.

Apparently Australia was defended by the militia from 1901-1947. Hence the need for the right to bear arms. We did not get a standing army until 1947 when National Service started.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Australian_Army#1901%E2%80%931914

The Defence Act of 1903 brought all of the units under one piece of legislation; more significantly, it prevented the raising of standing infantry units and specified that militia forces could not be used in industrial disputes, and could not serve outside Australia.[10] The vast majority of soldiers remained in militia units, now known as the Citizen Military Forces (CMF). In 1911, two significant changes followed a report by Lord Kitchener: the Royal Military College, Duntroon was established and; a system of universal national service began: boys aged 12 to 18 became cadets, and men aged 18–26 had to serve in the CMF.[9]

The vast majority of our soldiers from 1901-1947 were in the Citizen Military Force (CMF) ie the Militia

We may have had a standing army from 1901-1947 but its size was negligible. The vast bulk of our troops were in the CMF.

I guess we had a army in WW1 but it was then disbanded and the troops left the Army and joined the Militia

Re:

There were people out there who thought the Teals were ‘independents’

Not think! But know! As Macron would say.

If one wanted to write ‘a’ serious history of the Teals, one would do well to look at the rise of independents such as Cathy McGowan and Zali Steggall. Their arrival on the political stage was well before Holmes à Court’s intervention to financially assist. Indeed, those who follow politics know that he was originally raising dollars for Frydenberg. (Or should one say he was pulling Josh’s strings ? )

And if not then why not?

Certainly, Holmes à Court poured fuel on the fire (and he was not alone) but he didn’t light the flame. There was no need. The Independents’ time had come. To suggest he is the ongoing master of their destiny misses the point. Yes it’s what the Murdoch media would want you to think but they too took a drubbing in the recent election. Rupert, John (Howard) and the IPA were shat upon. Again!

But, as always, there’s ‘true-believers’.

And now we have another born again leader In (soft and cuddly) Peter Dutton. So much new lipstick on the political pig one expects a fashion shoot in New Idea. But Dutton knows that Angus Taylor is circling and do is Sussan when she is not visiting the Gold Coast to inspect potential property investments.

So expect Dutton to be all over Sky, at the football, and kicking heads.

They’re all independent

ToM so much fog to clear. So let’s start::

All with the same major donor

How do you know that? Or are you blinded by your ‘biased’ assumptions? Ever thought of that? You don’t know the extent of the donations made and neither do I.

Given that in this great democracy or ours, monetary ‘donations’ don’t have to be declared in real time. Indeed, we usually don’t find out the quantum of ‘financial’ contributions for some considerable time after they were made.

But dollar amounts are usually but the tip of the donation iceberg. So let’s dig below the surface – just a tiny bit.

What flies below the radar for most are donations in kind . What price (monetary and political value) does one put on an editorial? (and there were so many of them.) What about the shocking headline(s)? Such as – the candidate doesn’t even know … Who gets to ask the questions? Who sets the tasks? – and to the embarrassment of the ‘profession’.

What’s the value of the ongoing repetition? The reinforcement? The cartoon(s)? The compromising photo? And so on.

Now think about who the major donor of the anti-tealers was? Who owns the newspapers? Who owns Sky? Who declared Climate 200 was “a RICO [racketeer-influenced and corrupt organisations] case in the making”? The Tealers had few friends in the media.

ToM – the ‘major donor’ to the Tealers gave little more than political small change when compared to the contribution(s) made by Rupert et al. Please. Try and rise above the usual fog.

And that’s just your first ‘point’. Lol. Will return to the rest of the nonsense – maybe.

Hilarious!
Holmes à Court is the major donor to each of the Teals.
And they have to meet specific criteria to obtain a franchise to run a candidate as a “Teal”
I provided a dozen examples to refute your “I know”
You replied to one, and you can’t even justify that

Wong has a big win!

Here is another example of our soldiers being in the militia before 1947. Leslie Morshead was a WW1 General. Between WW1 and WW2 he was manager of Orient lines. But he stayed in the militia to stay up to date with modern military ideas. He became a full time General again when WW2 broke out. He defeat Rommel at Tobruk, Easter 1941

WE did not get a full time standing Army until 1947

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Morshead#Between_the_wars

Morshead returned to Australia in November 1919 and his AIF appointment was terminated in March 1920. He considered applying for a regular army commission, but found that these were reserved for graduates of the Royal Military College, Duntroon…

All this time, he remained active in the part-time Militia, commanding the 19th Infantry Battalion from 1921 to 1925.[36] He became commander of the 36th Infantry Battalion on 1 August 1926.[37] He was promoted to colonel in 1933, and was appointed to command the 14th Infantry Brigade on 1 January 1933. When he moved to Melbourne in 1934, he transferred to command of the 15th Infantry Brigade, then part of the 3rd Division under Major General Sir Thomas Blamey. On returning to Sydney in 1937 he assumed command of the 5th Infantry Brigade. During a visit to England in 1937 as part of his duties with the Orient Line, he had occasion to observe the British Army on manoeuvres in East Anglia, and was impressed by the pace of modern mechanised forces

In 1939 Morshead was Manager of a shipping company- Orient Lines. Easter 1941 he defeated Rommel at Tobruk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Australian_Army#Occupation_of_Japan

The Australian Regular Army was subsequently formed on 30 September 1947,
while the CMF was re-raised on 1 July 1948.[20]

Scummo needed to lose because he was incompetent.

I meant about Penny Wong turning back the Red Army single handedly after the libs allowed them a beachhead, but your point is accurate too 😉

Can I borrow your rose-tinted glasses?

Oh, they aren’t rose tinted anymore, they’re fucken Rainbow these days 🙂

TB

From your link

The Australian Army was initially composed almost completely of part–time soldiers,
where the vast majority were in units of the Citizens Military Force (CMF or Militia)

We did not get a full time regular army until 1947

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Army

The Australian Army was initially composed almost completely of part–time soldiers,
where the vast majority were in units of the Citizens Military Force (CMF or Militia) (1901–1980) during peacetime, with limits set on the regular Army. Since all reservists were barred from forcibly serving overseas, volunteer expeditionary forces (1st AIF, ANMEF, 2nd AIF) were formed to enable the Army to send large numbers of soldiers to serve overseas during periods of war.[5][6]
This period lasted from federation until post–1947, when a standing peacetime regular infantry force was formed

WE did not get a standing full time army until 1947

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Australian_Army#Occupation_of_Japan

Meanwhile, planning for post-war defence arrangements had come to the
conclusion that the Australian Army should be predicated on maintaining a relatively strong peacetime force. This was a significant departure from past Australian defence policy which had previously relied on citizen forces, the Australian Army would include a permanent field force of 19,000 regulars organised into a brigade of three infantry battalions with armoured support, serving alongside a part-time force of 50,000 men in the Citizen Military Forces.[19] The Australian Regular Army was subsequently formed on 30 September 1947, while the CMF was re-raised on 1 July 1948

So what does this bit mean?

The Australian Regular Army was subsequently formed on 30 September 1947

WE did not get a full time standing army until1947

our “lack of democracy”

WHY DID LABOR GET IT SO WRONG!