Alan Joyce must be held to account for Trashing Qantas

THE ANNUAL SALARY OF $24 MILLION DOLLARS is quite the reward for single-handedly destroying what was once regarded as the world’s leading airline and national flagship carrier with a reputation many other airlines could only look upon with envy.
Today however, Qantas’ reputation lies in tatters thanks to the brutal and negligent management of its CEO Alan Joyce.
As with most other airlines, booking and paying for a Qantas flight online is relatively straightforward. However from that point on, your experience is likely to be the stuff of nightmares. Should Qantas cancel or reschedule your flight, you will face an 8-hour wait time to speak to a customer service representative to discuss your options.
At check-in, you can expect organised chaos, not due to any lack of Qantas staff you understand, but because of your tardy lack of experience in not preparing for the 3-hour queues and check-in process.
Expecting your baggage to arrive at your destination when you do, is a luxury apparently, as is arriving at the destination you actually booked. Don’t be surprised if you end up somewhere entirely different, dumped at some remote terminal late at night with no ground staff to assist you and no accommodation or meal.
Can Qantas trash its reputation any faster than it has in recent months?
Why yes, of course it can!
As Bernard Keane puts it:
“The abiding theme of Joyce’s management of the decline of Qantas is his passionate loathing of his workforce. This is the man who shut the entire airline down in 2011 rather than deal with engineers, pilots and transport workers and their unions, who used the pandemic to sack 6000 workers, on top of another 7000 workers also sacked under Joyce.”
“The loss of Qantas staff has tracked its decline from a respected airline to the butt of jokes.”
“The fact that it now doesn’t have enough staff to answer phones, crew to fly planes, or workers for its outsourced baggage-handling operation is all completely on Joyce and his attitude of belligerent grievance toward the people who make the airline run day after day.”
With Australians now abandoning the airline in droves due to deteriorating service levels, lost baggage, delayed and cancelled flights and a shambolic customer service experience, it’s clear that all Joyce has achieved is to line his own pockets and those of shareholders.
It sure as hell hasn’t benefitted the traveling public. And for that, he must be held to account.
What bullshit! Alan deserves every cent for promoting QANTAS as Australia’s airline.
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Labour hire – another US invention to create misery for people … welcome to the 51st state ….
I reckon the Alley boy … is saving up to buy Ryan Air and then compare it to QANTAS! Shit travel for shit passengers! It’s all their fault anyway!
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WTF is Lord ToM? On some free flight over Antarctica watching the flowers grow and the geysers play as the Pacific Islands go under?
This is what people do as a disaster approaches (don’t laugh I’ve experienced it in a work setting!)
Fascinating priorities on display
* Russian war crimes and slaughter of thousands of civilians
* Unprecedented heat wave in parts of Europe due to carbon emissions?
* Reserve Bank under most significant review for decades
…but let’s talk about an airline that you refuse to fly on
Just because you can’t comprehend even one subject at a time doesn’t mean the rest of us can’t comprehend more than one subject at the same time, Lord ToM … we don’t have all that wealth to “manage” … 😋
I think the demise of a national icon all thanks to the willful negligence of one wealth crazed prick is a fairly relevant and topical subject of conversation given how far it’s fallen in the public’s eyes in terms of customer service, reputation and sheer incompetence.
But by all means, if you feel there are subjects you’d rather talk about you could always start your own blog and publish whatever you like.
You could call it “ToM’s Tantrums” and write article after article about Unions, or ungrateful employees.
Did you look at that Google search I provided, and find a single article that had Qantas raked below the 8th best airline in the world?
No.
Did you pay any scant attention to the hundreds of customer complaints, countless reports of lost baggage, cancelled/delayed flights, 8-hour call centre wait times and extensive media coverage of the shambolic chaos that Qantas has become due to its incompetent management at the top?
No.
BTW. A few weeks ago you were saying Qantas was ranked number 4, I wonder* what’s happened for them to slip to 8th place…?
*Not really
…but let’s talk about an airline that you refuse to fly on
Lets talk about illegally sacking workers (easy to tell why you love him hey yomm) and then watching your company go from 1 to 8 in record time. And it’s just at the start of its decline.
I wonder* what’s happened for them to slip to 8th place…?
Or. what ‘e sed 😉
The corruption in politics is on an unbelievable scale, isn’t it?
I think “Fuck that, I’m off to New York” should be the catch cry for anyone being asked to do a task they’d rather not do.
Joyce holds his job as long as the owners of Qantas are satisfied, or unless he is ineligible to hold a position in a public company. Therefore, instead of the whinging, try the following-
* Contact ASIC and see whether Joyce is eligible to be a director
* Buy some shares and turn up to the AGM and ask some questions.
Otherwise it’s lots of empty carping by the mindless left
Therefore, instead of the whinging, try the following-
*“Fuck that, I’m off to New York”
I suppose the corrupt cunt knew nothing about any of it:
If he actually took full responsibility he would resign.
Meanwhile in NSW:
At last in this case Sidoti has been referred for prosecution.
But because Victoria, having been ruled by Labor for so long, is rotten to the core it is unlikely that there will be any real consequences:
Hilarious*….!!
All those hundreds of Qantas customers who had their luggage lost, flights delayed or cancelled, or ended up at a different destination than the one they booked, or had to endure 8 hour wait times to speak to a telephone operator, are all just a pack of “leftist whingers” according to YoM.
As much as he’s a rusted on cheerleader for such a shit airline, it’s pretty fucking clear he hasn’t flown with them for a very long time.
*not really.
Not our problem..
If he actually took full responsibility he would ….sack the people and refer the matter to police and IBAC?
Did you see that (despite all the whining hot air) Qantas is ranked no lower than 8th best in the world in any survey!
But that doesn’t stop the whingers from whinging
Tom R quoting himself again!
In Canada, things be different:
Always best if things ain’t lost!
Did you see that Qantas has fallen from first place and is now ranked 8th in the world under Alan Joyce’s mismanagement.
But that doesn’t stop the rusted on apologists from defending his negligence and sheer incompetence.
And for that, he must be held to account
Oh really? And how do you reckon this could happen, exactly (apart from, say, the board sacking him)?
And Melbourne has fallen from number one city in the world to about mid teens
But it’s better for the whingers to talk about Qantas!
Jacinta Allan will have to be very careful!
Dan has said he “takes full responsibility”
Whenever Dan says that he throws a female minister under the bus
By the board sacking him.
(I didn’t think I’d need to spell that bit out)… 🙄
Who doesn’t like a bit of woke-on-woke action every now and then?
I’m sure the Qantas board and all shareholders will follow your analysis with great interest
$7.1 billion to run penal system largely by private companies looking for a quick buck. What could go wrong?
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1546248472940072960.html
I think the extensive media coverage of their epic failures and ensuing consumer backlash will have more than piqued their curiosity by now YoM, but at least they can rely on your
unhingedunwavering support.I happened to be talking to a friend overseas about the issue.
But I’ve no doubt Joyce is anxiously awaiting the next comment for someone who never flies with Qantas and isn’t a shareholder
https://www.google.com/search?q=airline+lost+baggage&client=ms-android-google&source=android-browser&prmd=nsiv&sxsrf=ALiCzsbnibx8N0zJ4fGSpvKi0kvVeN8Few:1658362657893&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjZ-oGp2oj5AhUx6jgGHb8ZC_8Q_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=360&bih=720&dpr=2
Yes, you are right.
Let’s make sure we talk about Qantas, because that’s what the public should be most concerned about!!
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/corruption-probe-to-reveal-extent-of-labor-s-cultural-problems-20220719-p5b2vg.html
Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews apologises after IBAC investigation finds ‘extensive misconduct’ by Labor MPs
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/101252886
The hypocrisy of the left-
*Look over there!! Alan Joyce is in charge of Qantas, and they lost some bags!!!
Sack him!!
* Dan Andrews, in charge of the Victorian ALP for 12 years, during a period of systemic corruption, branch stacking and misappropriation of public funds…
***crickets***
The hypocrisy of YoM…
*Dan Andrews condemns allegations of branch stacking by some Labor MPs.
Sack him!!
*Look over there!! Alan Joyce found guilty of illegally sacking thousands of workers…!
***crickets***
*This game is just too easy… 😆
But look at Qantas!!!
Just because Dan was in charge of the ALP for the entire period doesn’t mean he knew what his party and MPs were doing! He’s only the boss of the entire thing!!
The report of Operation Watts – a joint investigation between the state’s ombudsman and the Independent Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission (Ibac) uncovered widespread misuse of taxpayer resources for political purposes and a “catalogue” of unethical behaviour in the Victorian branch of the Labor party including nepotism, the hiring of unqualified people for public roles and using those roles for political party work.
Dan tomorrow- Hi Jacinta, could you just step under this please. My back is still giving me trouble, and I don’t think I can throw you”

By the board sacking him.
Correct, the Qantas board is responsible for “appointing and removing the CEO”.
Over to you, Board. Alan Joyce must be held to account!
Click to access qantas-corporate-governance.pdf
Just because Dan was in charge of the ALP for the entire period and launched an ICAC investigation and sacked them. He really should have just said *“Fuck that, I’m off to New York”
More from me
That’s such reassurance from Tom R… “don’t single out Dan for blame, it’s the entire ALP that’s corrupt…”
it’s the entire ALP that’s corrupt
Well, with the exception I guess of at least those who exposed this, took it to ICAC, and sacked those who were corrupt. 😉
Speaking of corrupt, it’s good to see people moving on and up in the world. It may not be New York, but at least it isn’t a Shack on Kangaroo Island.
Probaly explains why the board at Qantas won’t sack a guy who is busy ripping apart a major Australian comapny. Shit clings together att the top
Australia’s former Treasurer Josh Frydenberg, who covered-up a corruption scandal at the top of the country’s corporate regulator, has been appointed to a senior role with notorious global investment bank Goldman Sachs.
https://www.theklaxon.com.au/home/frydenberg-appointed-goldman-sachs
Qantas illegally sacks thousands of workers, but don’t single out Alan Joyce for blame, he’s just the boss of the entire thing and enjoys the confidence of the Board…!
*guffaw*
🙂
Re:
https://www.9news.com.au/national/scott-morrison-church-trust-government-victory-life-centre-anthony-albanese-response/eabc6f8b-bec8-4949-b501-cc1ebc6f76b8
If he was, (and I don’t believe that to be the case) then there’s a real problem. Anyone who’s been following Morrison’s ‘career’ (including numerous public statements) would know that’s he’s been a religious nutter of the highest order for some significant time. That the MSM gave him a ‘free ride’ should not be an excuse.
As for Josh Frydenberg, surely this appointment to Goldman Sachs so soon after his rejection at the ‘ballot box’ is a democratic perversion. But not unexpected.
Josh Frydenberg, surely this appointment to Goldman Sachs
But, but its so difficult for an ex-politician to find a job … that’s why they get a pension … earlier than most and higher too …
Dan’s in charge of a political party, in government, that has found to be corrupt, has misused public funds, nepotism with public funds.
Systemic corruption
…but Qantas lost someone’s bags!!!
ToM – will legal consequences flow from Dan’s failings? Charges pending and the like? Full force of the law and all that? If not – then why not?
And to be fair – are there legal consequences that result from lost baggage? Monetary compensation for example?
Not a lawyer myself, but my understanding is that IBAC (the entity in question) CAN’T decide if a person is innocent or guilty or make determinations re entitlements and liabilities.
Perhaps I’m in error?
The left…
“Alan Joyce must be held to account for Trashing Qantas”…but leave Dan alone for trashing Victoria
but Qantas lost someone’s bags!
Well, they DID illegally sack several thousand workers, including, interestingly, baggage handlers, but, hey, alls fair and all that jazz
“Alan Joyce must be held to account for Trashing Qantas”…but leave Dan alone for trashing Victoria
Linkque?
NB: Do not quote – Lord Tom, Palace.
Let me know when ASIC advises that Joyce is ineligible to hold his position, or when shareholders/board turn on him.
Meanwhile, with 12 years in charge of Vic ALP, Dan oversees a culture of corruption, misappropriation and nepotism
But don’t concern yourselves with that!!
Apparently Qantas is appealing the Federal Court’s decision to the High Court. Don’t worry, though, we haven’t seen the High Court overturn any high profile cases in recent memory.
a culture ??
Re:
Not au fait with particular arrangements in Victoria, but how can the Leader of the Parliamentary Party bear responsibility for the behavior of the Party as a whole? Or does Dan really have magical powers?
As for the basic (and revered) legal principle of innocent until proven guilty , then don’t look above. How embarrassing. Goes far beyond the inability to handle illustrative ‘generalisations’.
TomR
This is what you hero Friendly Jordies got up to.
” The ‘Bruz’ video was filmed in a farmhouse owned by the Barilaros, which his ex-wife had unwittingly rented out to Mr Shanks through AirBnB.
In the video, the YouTuber placed toys depicting the Nintendo character Mario throughout the house, including in one of the beds.
“Waking up with Mario in the bed – that’s a scene from ‘The Godfather’,” Mr Barilaro told the court. “””
What sort of sicko would follow a Politician around for years. Basically stalking. And then rent a AirBNB owned by the Politician and then leave spooky toys around the place so Baraliro would see them?
What sort of sicko would follow a Politician around for years. Basically stalking.
One that basically brought him down you dopey twat lol *“Fuck that, I’m off to New York”
Like i said. What sort of sicko would follow a politician around for years? Rent his BnB and leave spooky looking toys in the AirBnb after he left?
I am all for investigative Journalism but stalking is a crime
“Meanwhile, with 12 years in charge of Vic ALP, Dan oversees a culture of corruption, misappropriation and nepotism”
But the noble Stairman has taken full responsibility! Oh how fortunate are the people of Victoria.
“leave Dan alone for trashing Victoria”
“”Trashing…”” 😆 😆 😆
I am all for investigative Journalism but stalking is a crime
Do you understand it wasn’t jordies who was charged with stalking by the fixated person unit, it was his manager. And it was because he tried to give the one who wants to *“Fuck that, I’m off to New York” the summons he had made to jordie over another matter, because he had got his own address wrong.
fyi, that got thrown out of court, for being just stupid
Jordies was charged and fined for repeating what bruz had said about himself in parliament, but then used parliamentary privilege’s to say it never happened. That is just cooked
”Trashing…”
Just cos
* oversees a party found to misuse public funds, jobs for mates , branch stacking, corruption
* Melbourne slides from world’s most livable city, to #3 in Australia
Thanks Dan
to #3 in AustraliaM
They are up against some stiff competition, like … Adelaide … 😉
Lucky (sort of), that I suggested and then took a family member to buy a pair of wellies* yesterday … he’s somewhere jumping in the mud, or huddled in his borrowed swag, in Byron Bay … waiting for Splendour in the Grass to get going …
Can’t wait for the next family gathering … they’re experts at having a laugh at each other! 😎
*gumboots if you speak Yankee
Really?
Gumboots is an Australian term, certainly not from the US
https://www.wonderfulwellies.co.uk/what-do-americans-call-wellies/
Things are getting worse:
Did Qantas charge them with a ‘babysitting’ fee?
https://www.traveller.com.au/couple-seething-after-qantas-cancels-flight-rebooks-baby-on-separate-flight-h2580n
Really, ToM.
I was impressed that you provided a link re: gumboots … seems the term rubber boots is the most widely used term. The history of rubber boots is interesting too (I’ve been a fan of, Sir Arthur Wellesley, for many years).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington_boot
I’m rather pleased to see that you had a least one small (sort of) win this year … I’m also happy to say, you are right, m’lord … have a shiraz on me. 😎
TomR
I posted this before but i will post it again. Would you call this investigative Journalism? And what would you think if you came home and you found toys throughout your house? Friendly Leftie is a troublemaker.
“” The ‘Bruz’ video was filmed in a farmhouse owned by the Barilaros, which his ex-wife had unwittingly rented out to Mr Shanks through AirBnB.
In the video, the YouTuber placed toys depicting the Nintendo character Mario throughout the house, including in one of the beds.
“Waking up with Mario in the bed – that’s a scene from ‘The Godfather’,” Mr Barilaro told the court. “””
that’s a scene from ‘The Godfather’
Not sure Mario was around when they made the Godfather, #justsayin
But anyway, here he is, breaking the rorts of the bruz the msm were ignoring. And he exposed so much, bruz decided to say *“Fuck that, I’m off to New York”
TomR
Friendly lefties was a stalker. He did not care about corruption. He only cared about Coalition corruption.
But how would you like it after you came home and their were stuffed toys placed throughout your house?
He did not care about corruption. He only cared about Coalition corruption.
er, isn’t that caring about corruption? #justsaying
throughout your house?
it’s not his home, it’s a b&b, and investment property. Just after the 18 minute mark he discuses that, it’s quite revealing actually.
Watch the video. What he exposed was damning. And it’s the main reason he’s been run out. No wonder he hates him. The only part missing from the vid is when he repeated what bruz had said about himself in parliament, which is what they found to be in violation of the youtube rules. How twisted is that? You know our Governance is buggered when they use their rules to attack Journalists (with a comedic bent)
it’s not his home, it’s a b&b, and investment property.
Just after the 18 minute mark he discuses that, it’s quite revealing actually
So? Barilaro turns after after the guy has left and finds stuffed toys throughout the house. No Journalist would do that.
Friendly leftie was a partisan hack and stalker who only cared about Coalition corruption.
Actually the guy sounds a lot like you TomR.
LOL! @ TR! 🤣
Re the “stuffed toys”. Perhaps Barilaro thought Santa Claus was ‘moonlighting’ or maybe ‘rehearsing’?
MN
I am not sure what your point is. This Friendly Jordies/leftie guy was stalking Barilaro for some reason. He left toys ” depicting the Nintendo character Mario “” throughout Barilaros AirBNB, including in one of the beds.
I had no idea what this Mario toy is so i looked it up on Wikipedia
Mario has appeared in over 200 video games since his creation. Depicted as a short, pudgy, Italian plumber who resides in the Mushroom Kingdom, his adventures
generally center on rescuing Princess Peach from the Koopa villain Bowser.
Friendly Jordies is not a Journalist with a comedic bent. He is a stalker of Coalition politicians. Actually most of the media appears to be stalkers of Coalition politicians.
I am not sure why Friendly leftie left Mario toys in Barilaros house. Perhaps it is something to do with being Italian.
This Friendly Jordies/leftie guy was stalking Barilaro for some reason.
To expose a corrupt politician. He ended up taking down a whole government. With nothing but a bunch of facts, and a stuffed toy 🙂
TR, you do know your discussing stuffed toys with … a stuffed toy?
😎
It’s a total shit show…
Link – https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/qantas-pilot-exposes-behindthescenes-airport-chaos/news-story/23342599e2f5f29ba9929b2adf6bbd03
But wait, there’s more….
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-24/qantas-crisis-delay-cancel-aviation-fuel-covid-impact/101262422
Not sure you should have done that, reb!
Aw, fk! Here comes, Lord ToM!!
I think you’ve said that
But did you go through all those airline rankings and find one where Qantas was ranked below 8?
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Meanwhile, for 12 years Dan has been in charge of a government that has found to be corrupt.
But did you go through all those airline rankings and find one where Qantas was ranked below 8?
😯
It ranked the national airline 92nd out of 130 global airlines for on-time performance.
you do know your discussing stuffed toys with … a stuffed toy?
Troo dat. But it did allow me to go and watch that video one more time. His ‘comedy’ may not be to everyones taste, but it is to mine 😉
Oh, and the sheer volume of dodgy shit bruz was up to was mind boggling
For those who are hard of hearing…
92nd out of 130
Or hard of comprehension … or just difficult …
For those that are more interested in an airline they don’t use, than in the party that governs them
* IT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT DAN IS IN CHARGE OF A CORRUPT POLITICAL PARTY!
or just a rusted on fucknuckle.
That’s fine
As long as you’re happy to continue with your obsession about a commercial airline, while excusing proven corruption in government , that starts with the leader
Yes, the party is SO corrupt, that when They discovered maleficence within their own party, they reported it to ICAC, and sacked those involved.
They really are bad at being corrupt aren’t they?
#92ndoutof130
I see YoM’s “doing a Nasking” and providing his views on what I ought to be writing when the topic at hand doesn’t suit him.
All I’ve got to say in response is “Go _ _ _ _ yourself”.
Would you like to buy a vowel…?
#rustedonfucknuckle
“that starts with the leader”
I think you’ll find that the investigation categorically cleared Dan Andrews of any wrongdoing.
But I imagine that doesn’t #suityourrustedonfucknucklenarrative
#92ndoutof130
I see
So the leader of a corrupt organisation is absolved
Dan knows nothing! Everyone kept him is the dark for a decade!
Malaise and hubris spring to mind
Ahhhh … Nasking … (YoM’s “doing a Nasking”
At least you won’t “ruin”, Lord ToM’s, journalistic career … and … I suspect, m’lard is a bit more robust than the erstwhile, Canuck!
ToM’s more fun anyway … 😍😘🥰🤩
Spot the difference:
Alan Joyce found guilty by the Courts of illegally sacking thousands of workers. And then lost a subsequent appeal.
Dan Andrews cleared of any wrongdoing following IBAC investigation into corruption.
But what does YoM do…?? Get’s all worked up about the guy who was actually found innocent and completely overlooks the fuckhead who’s been found guilty of illegal conduct…!!
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#92ndoutof130
Are you sure “Alan Joyce was found guilty”?
Maybe post the court decision that says that, without obfuscating about it.
My tip is you’ll obfuscate
Do your own fucking research.
Hello, hello – there’s been developments:
Is this particular ToM now a witness for the prosecution? (Perhaps, better late than never.)
https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/qantas-pilot-exposes-behindthescenes-airport-chaos/news-story/23342599e2f5f29ba9929b2adf6bbd03
Hilarious!
“Alan Joyce was found guilty”
Someone doesn’t understand law!
You could prove me wrong.
But my guess is you’ll just obfuscate.
🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄
YoM:
“Dan Andrews is trashing Victoria”
Fact Check:
Put out a box of tissues for YoM. 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
“Unemployment is at a 50 year low in Victoria”
~ ABS June 2022
#TrashingVictoria #92ndoutof130
hmmm, wonder if it triggers anyone here?
LOL…!!
*Lowest unemployment in 50 years!
*Strongest performing economy in in Australia…!
*Australia’s most liveable city….!!!
Maybe it’s about time YoM just fucked off to Queensland….!
#rustedonfucknuckle
#fuckofftoqueenslandcunt
#92ndoutof130
#fuckofftoqueenslandcunt
Not sure how happy TB would be with that.
Maybe send him to NSW, apparently they will be short one soon 🙂
“Maybe send him to NSW, apparently they will be short one soon “
😆
I know people … he’ll be stopped at the border … visa or not!
We allow the occasional Mexican here but most go back pretty quickly usually in motor-homes … can’t stand the beautiful weather y’see …
can’t stand the beautiful weather y’see
Queensland, humid one day, flooded the next 😦
“Alan Joyce was found found guilty” is as hilarious as “Asia thinks…”
That’s the left for you
That’s the left for you
Yep, always right! 😄😃😁
Queensland, humid one day, flooded the next
You sound like a Mexican!?!
The weather at the moment is cold 21C with a gentle freezing wind … low clouds … but “mostly sunny” …
NB: No floods on this fkn hill, mate! I can watch the cruise ships glide in from up here … bring unhappy Covid patients …
“Alan Joyce was found found guilty”
True, it was only the company he was ceo of that was found to have undertaken the illegal sackings.
Yep, always right 🙂
The replies to this are glorious. People haven’t forgotten that they only got away with it, because the media enabled them. They were complicit
“Dan Andrews has trashed Victoria” is way funnier tho. 😆
“Dan Andrews has trashed Victoria”
yea, but he’s ‘trashed’ them all the way to the top, while joyce is busy ‘improving’ Qantas all the way to the bottom 😉
Another Bob Ellis also with something worthwhile to say:
Seems very much like more of the same.
https://johnmenadue.com/bob-ellis-the-duchessing-of-our-pm/
LOL @ ToM R… 😆 😆 😆
Did he also come up with the “Asia thinks…” line?
https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js
Suppose it’s always a bridge too far for a ‘dot point’ specialists to read beyond the headlines, particularly when they can’t handle generalisations.
And of course Ellis is not alone.
We have the deadly habit of following the (economically declining) USA into conflicts that turn out to be disasters for all except weapons manufacturers. As evidence – try Vietnam, Irag, Afghanistan and now we have the new ‘savior’ – AUKUS. Never mind being ‘upstream without a paddle’, Australia is now ‘underwater without a sub’. Not even a SCUBA.
They must resign
I wagging it near enough?
We have the deadly habit of following the (economically declining) USA…
FYI, MN, I served as a Nasho … and my interest in political history was suddenly “enhanced”.
I wagging it near enough?(sic) but its fkn parliament, cobber! No need to say anything next thing you know he’ll be in Queensland on hols!
July 25, 2022 2:46 pm
TR, keep dem cards and letter comin’ LOL!
Hope he has a Dr’s Certificate is a bit indulgent! 😀😀😁😂🤣😃😄😅😆
Re Morrison absence
Arrogant prick!
And don’t forget ‘tother perks for Snotty!
Tonight I’ll be have homemade spaghetti (yes homemade) Napolitana … eat ya heart out Snotty!
In so far as this is acknowledged by news sources it is universally reported as a result “of the war in Ukraine”, rather than the economic warfare of the US and its European allies.
What puerile babble.
Sanctions are a diplomatic measure. It seems the people you quite don’t understand diplomacy or economics
It seems the people you quite don’t understand ❓
I AGREE!
Re:
Hilarious – as often is the case. In this example, particularly the “quite” bit. Try “quote”.
To suggest that “sanctions” are ONLY a “diplomatic measure” (without economic “effects” and “affects”) is rather … stupid …
And at a deeper and more significant level – as though the meaning(s) given to “concepts” such as the two referred to above are somehow fixed and unchanging and not inter-related.
Perhaps it’s the case that Australia can’t have an independent foreign policy, and, if so, then why not come clean.
Isn’t an informed electorate at the heart of a “democracy”?
Sanctions are a diplomatic measure. Do some research and read beyond tired public servants/failed executives
As for the rest, Russia has been in serious decline for years
Sanctions aren’t any form of warfare, they represent diplomacy beyond the cocktail circuit
It’s amusing the way YoM directs others to “do some research” while liberally spouting fact-free bullshit.
#TheNewNeil
#rustedonfucknuckle
#92ndoutof130
Exhibit A:
“””Dan Andrews is trashing Victoria”” says YoM.
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The Labor Government invested more than $44 billion to protect the health and wellbeing of Victorians during the pandemic, including an unprecedented $13 billion in business support.
Meanwhile, the feds gave away a similar amount to big business who didn’t need it (some even illegally sacked the workforce they had been receiving money to keep employed)
Meanwhile, looks like the Climate Wars have not ceased, at all. We are back to 2009 again 😦
It is factually correct to say that no state leader in Australia can run an economy as successfully as Daniel Andrews.
#justayin
#92ndoutof130
Hilarious! Now the economy is the only thing the left talks about
“Don’t mention the corruption”
“I’d prefer to survive in an economy…”
“I’d prefer to survive in an economy…”
If you’re going to (attempt) to quote me – get it right.
I prefer to live in a society not survive in an economy!©
Someone doesn’t understand what “cleared of any wrongdoing means”… 😆 😆 😆
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“Now the economy is the only thing the left talks about”
I have some thoughts about Qantas too.
#scrollupcunt.
Where’s Yom…?
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“cleared of any wrongdoing means”
Well, obviously it means, they need to go to another court, to get the right answer.
Same as “found to have illegally sacked workers” means the same, but for preferably different results
Surprised? Maybe not?
https://www.9news.com.au/world/russia-ukraine-update-us-considering-sending-jet-fighters-to-ukraine-air-force/c8647672-8766-429f-b605-e43e839cd5ea
Surely any jets would have to be accompanied by “advisers”? ( And so it goes.
Then there’s this:
Anyone remember Nguyen Van Thieu? He used to get 125% of the popular vote.
Nguyen Van Thieu Oh, yes!
I also remember the “Training Teams” deployed to VN
I remember the insults and being spat on by a couple, as I was going to work in uniform too!
I remember … Lest We Forget!
Re:
And then there’s the mental trauma. Personally, only missed the ballot by days but had friends who didn’t.
Now of course, Vietnamese are “mates” (Caution – that’s a generalisation and like any generalisation it shouldn’t be taken to mean ALL – without exception.) Did note that Morrison made mention of Vietnam recently when he was lecturing China on how they should behave. Sad!
Ideally, Australia should have no part in this Ukraine conflict. It will not end well. It’s not our fight.
Time we grew up and understood that Nations pursue what is in their ‘national interest’ (nothing to do with ‘morality’ or ethics’.) But again we will be the ‘lap dogs’. And while the USA pursues Russia, China looms on the horizon with a much bigger stick.
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Stan is NOT the man for this show. He’s simply not a ‘compere’. Seems to suffer from an ‘inferiority complex’ and tries far too hard to compensate.
He’s okay as a ‘guest’ but not the ‘host’. Big mistake!
Now of course, Vietnamese are “mates”
The Vietnamese people are very friendly to Aussies … my experience only … went to Long Tan in 2010 to pay my respects to the 11 Nashos who died there … and a mate from my training section in ’70 … and a mate’s brother …
Ideally, Australia should have no part in this Ukraine conflict. It will not end well. It’s not our fight.
Keyword … ideally … and they never are our “fight” … but it is having an impact here … and I have no idea how it may end – if ever. (Korea?)
And we will need help with that big bloody stick, MN.
I’ve always had this “idea” that the concept (strength) of the Commonwealth should be explored more – but then Charles is the — lost for words. Now Harry?
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Stan is NOT the man for this show.
Agree – he doesn’t ask questions he provides leading questions with his own answers …
Disclaimer: Never particularly like Stan … lack of self-esteem may be part of it and I guess that makes him appear “arrogant”
I must also admit I’ve not watched Q&A through for a long time. Don’t mind Trivoli – good operator … nor have I watched Insiders … dead show … thanks, LNP
LOL! Apologies, reb! Just clicked on your twitter link – says it all!
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Snotty! (Photo)
As it turns out this guy has been pestering people to give him a new job and I know he’s an expert at pretending he can cook. I’m sure he’d sure fit well with the magazine’s content & production values👍
This prick is an “expert” at one thing — pretending!
Tonight I’ll be having – a BBQ brekkie … eggs, bacon, hash browns (try Aldi), home grown tomato and onion mix and rye bread toast …
Give, The Minister a break …
Oh, and a glass of Bowlers Run Semi Sauv Blanc
TB. I’m not sure that we have to be so close to the USA that we lose our ‘independence’. Other Nations in the region aren’t so supine.
“As a nation that “guards” its sovereignty, Australians would be aghast to learn of a foreign influence operation that brings together leading politicians, government officials, journalists, and business executives from Australia and China for secretive annual talks. But that is what we have with America.”
https://johnmenadue.com/exposed-secretive-annual-talks-influence-australian-foreign-policy/
And the sad part is that this “fixation” is shared across the political aisle. All mates together when on this ‘junket’.
“and a glass of Bowlers Run Semi Sauv Blanc”
And here I was thinking that YoM was the only one who showed up here to humiliate himself in a public forum… 😆
How’s that campaign going to get the leprechaun held to account? The board sacked him yet?
Someone who doesn’t even understand what “convicted” means
It’s going really well, thanks ToSY.
In fact, Alan Joyce called me yesterday to apologise for all the systemic failures but wanted to convey his appreciation to both you and YoM and because of your unwavering support he still has the strength and conviction to keep fighting on. Well done!
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Snob! 😋
“he still has the strength and conviction to keep fighting on.”
Good to see he has the conviction!
LOL @splatterbottom
And here I was thinking that YoM was the only one who showed up here to humiliate himself in a public forum…
not.so.fast.reb 😉
How’s that campaign going to get the leprechaun held to account?
Hehehehe … a gotcha moment … methinks …
https://inqld.com.au/business/2022/07/27/qantas-says-sorry-as-it-vows-to-hire-more-staff-cut-some-flights/
LOL! @ The Chaser!
From TB’s link…
“Qantas has become Australia’s worst-performing airline in recent months, with understaffing of airport jobs causing delays, cancellations and lost luggage.”
BLASPHEMY….!!!
Qantas has become Australia’s worst-performing airline
But they are the Land From Down Unders airline, so bottom is top, isn’t it?
She really puts the c*nt in cuntry
because of your unwavering support he still has the strength and conviction to keep fighting on. Well done!
Good to hear. I’m glad we’ve helped stiffen his resolve.😬
The left-
* Let’s not talk about systemic corruption in the Andrews government
* Let’s endlessly talk about some lost bags, and invent nonsense like “convicted”
I’m glad we’ve helped stiffen his resolve.
Hope that’s all you stiffened while doing it. 🤩
“Convicted” is a useful concept because it can clearly indicate “guilt” and in the Court of Public Opinion he’s been found “guilty”.
(Warning – abstract concept employed – defined in terms of an entity that has no physical or spatial constraints because it has no direct representation in the physical world. )
If Australia allowed open competition in the airline industry, then Joyce would be history.
Err…this comment has nothing to do with “public opinion”
“Alan Joyce found guilty by the Courts”
It’s exactly the type of invented nonsense that gets passed of as fact.
ToM – are you suggesting that the Court of Public Opinion is NOT a useful concept?
In the business (and political) world, the Court of Public Opinion can be far more influential than any other court. Last time I looked, the Court of Public Opinion changed Joyce’s behavior quite significantly. Something about being ‘match fit’.
I’m suggesting that saying – “Alan Joyce found guilty by the Courts “…is ignorant garbage, the stuff that the left just regurgitates
It’s exactly the type of invented nonsense that gets passed of as fact.
Sounds like most of your comments, m’lard …
“ignorant garbage”
Like “Dan Andrews is trashing Victoria”…. ??
That sort of “ignorant garbage..?”
Go tell Bernard Keane
https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/07/21/dan-andrews-leads-rotten-government-should-resign/
Then square away – Alan Joyce found guilty by the Courts “
The ‘sanctions’ are changing things – but maybe not as expected.
Seriously — the man has been leader for 12 years, premier for eight, suspects something is happening that is “a serious problem” and “a corruption risk” — and seems to do nothing about it.
“Go tell Bernard Keane” who referred the matter to IBAC in the first place and has committed to implementing every single one of their recommendations.
He really is quite a stupid person. On the upside, he does write shit columns about both sides of politics
Dan-
* Party leader for 12 years
* Knew there was branch stacking, corruption and misuse of public funds
* Appointed the leader of the corrupt behaviour to the ministry
* Did nothing until it became an issue in the media
Did nothing until he had enough evidence to take it to icac
12 years as party leader and did zero, zilch, nothing until the press investigated, and uncovered outrageous misappropriation of public funds and corrupt behaviour
But let’s talk about some lost bags
nothing until the press investigated
Well, unless reporting it to ICAC is nothing, then, yea.
But the bags, OK 🙂 It appears even joyce now admits it was he who stuffed up. And, he’s going to fix his fuck up by, providing less services. What a role model of Management Exceptionalism Australian Noir.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/we-have-not-been-delivering-qantas-apologises-to-frustrated/2txcdgv6o
So view of the left is that even if the ALP deeply and systemically corrupt, don’t blame the guy who has leader for the entire period, 12 years
The report on branch stacking within the ALP released by the Independent Broad-based Anti-Corruption Commission (IBAC) and Victorian Ombudsman yesterday is scathing. Public resources were misused by ALP ministers
Staffing jobs were used for internal political work and nepotism — instead of serving the public, appointees worked, sometimes full-time, on factional hackery, or never showed up for work at all. Attempts were made to misdirect grants to factional mates. The report finds there was a culture of branch stacking within the Victorian ALP that went beyond Somyurek’s faction, and the misconduct was openly or tacitly condoned by senior figures in the party.
The ombudsman and IBAC, the latter carefully and conveniently prevented by legislation from suggesting its subjects may have broken the law, went out of their way to explain that no laws were broken only because laws against abuse of public resources and misuse of office are so vague in Victoria as to be practically unenforceable.
Luckily the ombudsman got a referral, luckily Dan was premier for about a decade and presided over unenforceable laws
But let’s talk about lost bags!
ALP deeply and systemically corrupt,
Yes, the ones who report and sack the offenders, are deeply corrupt, unlike the mob who ignore and promote those who are found to do wrong
Maybe we should talk about lobsters and bags 😉
Let’s talk international ‘power plays’.
But let’s talk about lost bags!
Or Angus Taylor, Tudge, Littleproud … FFS! the list just goes on! And on ………. ad infinitum ….
And wrong is wrong! Fkn “political class” = no class at all, just a wayward bunch of incompetent private school bullies … all of ’em on both sides of our parliament! (I exclude the Bogan Bitch Hanson from the private schools! – did she go to school?!)
Chuckle Let’s talk international ‘power plays’. So true …
“History Doesn’t Repeat Itself, but It Often Rhymes” (Mark Twain) … “nothing is new” (our guide in Egypt ’97) … “we live in interesting times” (Joseph Chamberlain).
Lt. Richard Sharpe is currently with the Rifles in Spain* … the British have been run off by the French and the Spanish are desperate …
*Bernard Cornwell, the Sharpe series
For those who “panic” the inflation rate of “predicted” 7% is not unusual …
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/AUS/australia/inflation-rate-cpi
If anyone wants to express an opinion about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, maybe try using their own words, to express their views.
Blandly posting a video of the views of someone else is particularly arrogant, and therefore unsurprising
Blandly posting a video of the views of someone else is particularly arrogant …
Especially for someone who can’t use an ereader and to my knowledge (correct me if I’m wrong) has never uploaded a Youtube leeeenk … you do know how that works, m’lard?
“Blandly posting a video of the views of someone else is particularly arrogant, “
FMD. Barely a day has passed since some arrogant prick posted a link to an opinion piece penned by Bernard Keane.
🙄
Read an article in a few minutes or watch an inarticulate old bloke stumble over his words for 8 minutes and realise he has nothing new to say.
Even left dills will notice the difference
What IS the height of arrogance is the view that a keyboard warrior of somewhat limited life experience can do better than an internationally recognised “expert”. If so, then why not link to published papers authored via your own hand.
Perhaps ToM does his own medical diagnosis: represents himself in Court; services his motor vehicles; pilots his own plane; removes damaged teeth via a length of cord and a heavy door… ?
First to admit, that most of my expressed views come from the generalised “other”. Things I’ve read. Always have and always will. It’s why we rely on “education”. You ought to try it. A new experience.
Yeah nah, you’re still just blandly posting someone else’s views which apparently smacks of arrogance by your own standards.
Even an arrogant fuckhead should be able to spot the blatant hypocrisy.
“You ought to try it.”
Don’t waste your breath MN.
YoM is the resident expert on everything here. Or at least he thinks he is… 🙄
If you’re sufficiently informed and educated, you’re capable of expressing your own views.
If I wish to discuss the opinions of your nominated experts, I’ll pop into a site that features their articles.
To blandly post a YouTube video, with watch this and you’ll understand is arrogance.
But I suppose someone who says – “Asia thinks…” isn’t really up to the challenge of distilling their reading (and video watching) into coherent opinions
The arrogance knows no bounds.
Keep digging YoM.
* Alan Joyce found guilty by the Court”
* Asia thinks…
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Blandly posting a video of the views of someone else is particularly arrogant
Dear oh dear. Another video on Ukraine – (made by an ‘other’) – and it shows another side of Zelensky.
No surprise here – the lawless Cunts Fuck ME & U is about to be let off the leash. The millions they bribed Labor with was obviously money well spent.
In Albo’s world it is the regulator securing convictions over criminal unions that needs to be shut down. Criminal activity is the stock-in-trade of the ALP and their union paymasters.
“YoM is the resident expert on everything here.”
I don’t think he is alone in having opinions. However, unlike some of his interlocuters, he is not some jabbering gerbil spitting shit from the cosy confines of the Stairman’s rectum.
“most of my expressed views come from the generalised “other”. Things I’ve read. Always have and always will. It’s why we rely on “education”. You ought to try it. A new experience.”
Some people actually think for themselves. You ought to try it. A new experience.
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reb! WGAFF waht this fucking disgusting prick looks like even if its like a big dick with a red tickler on the end of it … another wannabe that should have a third eye!
Sick of dumb people being manipulated by dumb arseholes (its fkn Arseholes in Oz! Not fkn Assholes) with an ill-gotten treasure chest – and/or guns … and the Yanks and Yankeephiles are so fucking easy to yank! Ugly is as ugly does!
Victoria’s economy is the best performing in the nation overall, including leading all states and territories
Even if true so what? Howard/Costello took unemployment from 8% to 4% and govt debt from 18% of GDP to zero and lost govt in 2007. Howard is the only govt since 1972 to reduce govt debt.
We now have $1 trillion of govt debt thanks to the retards who voted for Rudd in 2007
Criminal activity is the stock-in-trade of the ALP and their union paymasters.
According to yomm, judges decisions don’t mean anything. I guess that is ouble true when you consider the judge 😉
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-06/judge-salvatore-vasta-sued-for-wrongly-jailing-qld-man/100676922
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/jul/30/dispirited-australia-after-losing-the-trust-of-a-nation-can-the-qantas-brand-bounce-back
LOL!
Seems, Lord ToM, is out of step … again … fuckin’ Dan!
TB re your link:
Who is this “Andrew David” character? The real deal, the public face is now part of the National Anthem learnt by every child. You know:
Lol.
My thoughts are with YoM at this difficult time… 😆😆😆
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-30/act-government-ends-dispute-with-construction-union/101284430
If you want a chuckle at political/religious bigot, check out Hildebrand’s “column” in, The Guardian.
On a serious note … family net door has Covid … decided to do a RAT (sic) test … you’ll be pleased to know that they are not only manufactured in China but also Certified in China …
Now … should I or shouldn’t I … 🤒
If you don’t want your country to be in a “recession”, then just change the “definition”.
And then go further.
https://www.npr.org/2022/07/29/1114599942/wikipedia-recession-edits
It’s called – constructing reality. Every person does it but don’t tell anyone that governments do it too.
what i mean
“ it’s lots of empty carping by the mindless ”
Great description of the last nine years of clowntown.`
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