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Pauline Hanson’s Dramatic Dummy Spit over Acknowledgment of Country!

July 27, 2022

Pauline Hanson, her of the self-titled political fringe party, has today stormed out of Parliament in protest over the traditional acknowledgement of country.

The meltdown occurred as Senate President Sue Lines acknowledged the Ngunnawal and Ngambri people as ‘traditional custodians of the Canberra area’ and paid respect to elders past and present at the opening of Wednesday’s sitting.

Hanson interjected, yelling: “No, I won’t and never will…!!”

She then dramatically exited the chamber.

The Queensland One Nation senator later said she could not accept the welcome to country, nor a proposal – to be moved later today – that would see the Indigenous flag present in the Senate chamber.

“I’ve been feeling this way for a long time,” she said. “I see this [the acknowledgement of country] as divisive.”

Hanson added the Indigenous flag had “never been voted on”.

“I will never pay respect to [that flag]. I find this flag divisive,” she said.

“We are now hearing it on flights and aeroplanes. I’m sorry – this is my country as well.”

“This is heading towards division in our nation. A them and us. And we’ll never close the gap if we continue down this path. All Australians should be treated equally and the same.”

If Hanson falls to pieces over a few spoken words and a flag, she’s going to lose her mind when she discovers the State of Victoria is planning to move Australia Day celebrations from January 26 in recognition of the concerns of indigenous Australians observing it as a day of mourning.

195 Comments leave one →
  1. July 27, 2022 12:48 pm

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  2. Tom R permalink
    July 27, 2022 1:17 pm

    Simple but to the point

  3. TB Queensland permalink
    July 27, 2022 6:05 pm

    While I agree with you dicks re Hanson, I really would like to see a “one nation” “we are one” FLAG … “its time” … having three flags IS divisive … maybe the Voice will make a difference …

    Flying three flags at the same level is really silly … if we are one nation … lotsa dots no union jack!

    As for recognising country … absofknlutely! Silly bitch, Praline! … am I the only sane Queenslander? FFS!

    As a side note, if you have never been to Uluru, Kata Tjuta or the Katherine Gorge … and of course K’gari … GO … all those places are really “spiritual” (never felt in all those stupid cathedrals) … impossible to explain …

  4. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 30, 2022 5:59 pm

    Putin’s defense (and those if his apologists) are no different to the excuses used by a wife beater.
    * She was always mine
    * She was starting to look at others
    * She made me feel inadequate and insecure
    * It’s like I wasn’t good enough
    * We used to be so happy when she would do what I told her
    * She deserves it

  5. July 31, 2022 12:59 am

    ??

  6. TB Queensland permalink
    July 31, 2022 9:55 am

    LOL! @ Sumer …

    We know … but that’s our ToM …. 🙄😎

  7. TB Queensland permalink
    August 1, 2022 9:27 am

    The latest issue to hit the embattled airline has also led to renewed calls for CEO Alan Joyce to stand down.

    https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/chaos-at-melbourne-airport-as-qantas-travellers-face-massive-delays-due-to-it-glitch/news-story/cec0e5fdb942939fd07369e60ef696fd

  8. Fire When Ready`Teabag permalink
    August 1, 2022 12:00 pm

    l see kooyong is quite emotional about theRealdeal. You need to calm down. Just as physics based citizens know; our govts are clogged with corporate whim granters, and assorted weak cornflower blue ties. Back in 2013 (mh17-days) theRealdeal understood that nato was clogged with the same type of critters, and thePanda knows this too. lt will be interesting to see if thePanda ends up chomping taipai island as well. They both know that ukrain and taipai are knot going to be fought ‘head-on’ for by yankeeland and its arselicking deputy sheriffs. Tho ukrain may end up being a ‘vietnam’ for theRealdeal.`

  9. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 1, 2022 12:37 pm

    Bye bye groomers:

  10. August 1, 2022 7:13 pm

    Don’t think that Pauline can do New York but perhaps she could make a visit to Taiwan?

    A mountain of publicity awaits.

  11. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 1, 2022 10:01 pm

    So MN do you think public officials should be able to visit Taiwan? Or should they accept the bullying and intimidation of the CCP?

  12. August 2, 2022 8:39 am

    ToM – a few questions in return.

    Do you think that United States public officials should be subject to the International Court of Justice? (Or don’t USA officials commit war crimes?) Do you think the USA should have allowed Cuba to host Russian missiles? Do you think the USA should have invaded Iraq? What about Vietnam? Do you think that the USA would allow Mexico to host Chinese missiles? Or Canada to host Russian Missiles? If not then why not?

    Do you think that the USA should have continued to bomb North Korea, long after they had raised the metaphorical white flag? What about Dresden? Mosul? Should they have used a nuclear weapon? (Twice – the only Nation to use same.)

    Did you know that the USA has roughly 750 foreign military bases – spread across 80 nations while China has 5? Do you think China should be allowed to have any number of bases in the East and South China Sea(s)?

    As stated on any number of occasions (without apparent effect) when it comes to international power plays the overriding principle is Might Is Right . Shouldn’t be too hard to grasp

    It’s probably the case that Pelosi will make an unannounced visit to territory claimed by China. Will she then take full responsibility for any unpleasant outcomes? You might note that the US President (the boss of the armed forces is recommending against same).

    The USA is in decline. Realists know that. But it’s ‘common sense’ proceeds on the assumption that Might Is Right , regardless of how temporary that ‘state of affairs’ is.

    You should recognise that as well.

  13. August 2, 2022 9:35 am

    Is Pelosi going or not?

    Will she accept the consequences? Or is she not responsible for any outcome? Just her (supposedly) “good intentions”

    Will she be held “ethically” accountable? (See “teleological” ethical principles as distinct from the “deontological” – and while there you might look at “existential: ethics as well).

    https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-teleological-and-deontological/#:~:text=of%20an%20action.-,Teleological%20ethics%20determines%20the%20goodness%20or%20badness%20of%20an%20action,between%20teleological%20and%20deontological%20ethics.

    http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/politics/ideology-politics/difference-between-deontology-and-teleology/

  14. TB Queensland permalink
    August 2, 2022 10:53 am

    ToM – a few questions in return.

    This should be fun (for a few days)

  15. August 2, 2022 12:11 pm

    TB – telling lies is “par for the course” when it comes to international politics.

    Not sure that the average punter can handle what we might call the ‘truth’. It’s perhaps why we don’t have a ‘better’ democracy.

    (Note – there’s been some generalisations above. And there always will be – at least – on most occasions.)

  16. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 2, 2022 12:17 pm

    “Do you think that United States public officials should be subject to the International Court of Justice? “

    No. Globalist institutions fuck off.

    “(Or don’t USA officials commit war crimes?)”

    Of course they do.

    “Do you think the USA should have allowed Cuba to host Russian missiles?

    No. Commie tyrants fuck off.

    “Do you think the USA should have invaded Iraq?”

    No.

    “What about Vietnam?”

    They didn’t invade Vietnam.

    ” Do you think that the USA would allow Mexico to host Chinese missiles? Or Canada to host Russian Missiles? If not then why not?”

    They should not, if they can avoid it. It is not in their interests.

    “Do you think that the USA should have continued to bomb North Korea, long after they had raised the metaphorical white flag? What about Dresden? Mosul?

    Probably not.

    “Should they have used a nuclear weapon? (Twice – the only Nation to use same.)”

    Of course. Less people died as a result.

    “As stated on any number of occasions (without apparent effect) when it comes to international power plays the overriding principle is Might Is Right .”

    Is there something wrong with this?

    “It’s probably the case that Pelosi will make an unannounced visit to territory claimed by China. Will she then take full responsibility for any unpleasant outcomes?”

    Why should she. If Cunt Xi does something atrocious, why blame Cunt Pelosi. She is not threatening China, just doing something the murderous mongrel regime doesn’t like. Cunt Xi, like Cunt Putin, is responsible for his own actions.

    “The USA is in decline. Realists know that. But it’s ‘common sense’ proceeds on the assumption that Might Is Right”

    And? The US has been in managed decline since Obama. It is what globalists want. A world dominated by Russia or China will not be better than the Pax Americana. Better that the US retain at least military parity with its rivals and communicate clearly its ability and willingness to use its power.

  17. Know Collusion`Teabag permalink
    August 2, 2022 12:38 pm

    That’s correct splats, yankeeland and its arselicking deputy sheriffs should just keep elevating the level of hairychestedness in the world (against-others), then bleat and bray when they receive ‘in-kind’ or sleep zombie into something they can’t escape/ extract selves from. BTW, dozey joe drone bombed the team osama 2ic today.`

  18. Primate Pocks`Teabag permalink
    August 2, 2022 12:42 pm

    As l’ve said for years ‘ more pelosi is an answer to nothing’`

  19. August 2, 2022 12:44 pm

    TB – you may recall that when ‘breathalyzers’ were first introduced into QLD, those of good character (men of the cloth in particular) could (successfully) claim that while they may have been the influence of alcohol (as objectively determined via the machine), they had driven (only) under the belief that they were sober. They had the best and purest of intentions.

    Because they were ‘priests’ who religiously followed the 10 Commandments (an example of deontological ethics) and therefore never lied, the good intention argument often prevailed. But (with the right character references) more and more objectively drunk were freed by the courts. So the law was changed. Intention was overridden by outcome. in virtually all cases.

    Another example of relevance involves police and speeding drivers. In days of yore, police could and would chase speeding drivers until the end. Now, with an ethical command unit to the fore, police must be conscious of possible outcomes. Might be the death of the driver, passengers, pedestrians etc. No, Police must consider the possible consequences/outcomes of their actions.

    So if the humble copper has to consider possible outcomes , then why not well educated national leaders? Could the leader of Ukraine (and Russia) foresee the likely outcomes of their actions? What about the President of the USA? What about the many deaths to come? How are they to be judged?

    So many questions that might be asked – but never will. It’s not how international politics works – unless there’s very clear losers.

  20. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 2, 2022 12:49 pm

    How about we start here. Can you cite a similar United Nations report on the US?
    https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/05/1118072

  21. August 2, 2022 1:00 pm

    ToM are you now using the UN as a final arbiter? Why not the International Court of Justice?

    Or even this one.

    https://www.hrlc.org.au/news/2021/7/6/australian-government-ignores-key-recommendations-from-major-un-human-rights-review

    at the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva, Australia ignored key recommendations from countries including to prohibit children being held in immigration detention and to end offshore processing of people seeking asylum. Raising the age of criminal responsibility was a standout issue in the review, however the Australian Government rejected recommendations from 30 countries to raise the age above 10.

  22. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 2, 2022 1:25 pm

    How about you stop trying to contextualise Putin’s brutality and CCP intimidation with the “look over there” nonsense
    Is there any United Nations report that provides similar criticism of the US or any other western democracy?

  23. TB Queensland permalink
    August 2, 2022 3:38 pm

    It’s not how international politics works – unless there’s very clear losers.

    There are always losers … just not the ones responsible … half a dozen megalomaniacs playing chess with billions of lives? People who just want get on with their lives … the Russian people have nothing to gain from the Ukraine “military operation”. In fact its costing globally.

    I’ve been down the … “might is right”, track before … my business mentor many years ago used to say, “if might is right, and right is right, then, might, might be right”

    The heated discussions followed!

  24. TB Queensland permalink
    August 2, 2022 3:40 pm

    Did we invade East Timor? Or was it politically “arranged” so that Australia could steal resources?

  25. TB Queensland permalink
    August 2, 2022 3:47 pm

    Did we invade Vietnam … or … The American War as the Vietnamese call it … millions of people and their families lives were disrupted in many different ways … in VN and many other countries on both side …

    1954

    The Viet Minh defeat the French army in the Battle of Dien Bien Phu, forcing the surrender of most of the occupying troops. On July 21, France signs the Geneva Accord, a cease-fire that leads to the peaceful withdrawal of French troops from Southeast Asia. Vietnam is temporarily divided between North and South at the 17th parallel (17 degrees north latitude). The Viet Minh are to withdraw north of the line, while troops supporting France are to withdraw to the south. Elections are to be held in 1956 to reunify the country.

    1955

    On October 26, South Vietnam declares itself the Republic of Vietnam, with its capital at Saigon and Ngo Dinh Diem elected president in rigged elections. Diem argues that South Vietnam was not a party to the Geneva Accords, and cancels the 1956 elections. The North remains under the control of Ho’s Communists, with its government at Hanoi.

    The Winners — again The Robber Barons

    Read on …

    https://www.ncpedia.org/anchor/vietnam-war-timeline

  26. August 2, 2022 6:24 pm

    Fascinating to see YoM accuse someone else of “look over there nonsense” when he’s spent the last two weeks desperately trying to derail a post about Alan Joyce with unhinged rants about Dan Andrews!!

    Lol

  27. TB Queensland permalink
    August 2, 2022 6:34 pm

    Chuckle!

    Ahh … Lord ToMmy! Its all that sun and salt water … and the swells of course …

    He seems obsessed with “failure” – executives, public servants, unions … so what was he? A “manager” at JH? (They’re all engineers BTW … “yesterday I couldn’t spell engiir, today I are one!)

    😄

  28. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 2, 2022 10:14 pm

    Yes.
    Because when anyone raises stuff like the current bombing of hospitals and schools as an approved Russian military strategy, it’s important that we talk about Vietnam.

  29. TB Queensland permalink
    August 2, 2022 10:18 pm

    What? Please explain? @ ToM

  30. Tom R permalink
    August 3, 2022 10:07 am

    unhinged rants about Dan Andrews!

    Guessing dAN made him do it?

  31. Tom R permalink
    August 3, 2022 10:12 am

    And dAN made joyce an asshole too I guess?

    During the pandemic the grounding of airlines saw Qantas receive $2bn of bailout money from the then Morrison government.

    The government demanded no equity in exchange for its largesse, and Qantas management gave no reassurances, either – not about jobs, routes, services or quality. While milking the taxpayer teat for two-thirds of the value of the company, Qantas management did not maintain jobs.

    Instead, they sacked its unionised ground staff, exploiting a “window of opportunity” when workers weren’t physically at work and therefore unable to bargain. In late 2019 they unlawfully sacked 2,000 baggage handlers, cleaners, aircraft towing crews and other ground crew whose professionalism is now so desperately missed.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/02/once-upon-a-time-qantas-had-a-peerless-reputation-how-did-things-go-so-wrong

  32. Tom R permalink
    August 3, 2022 10:58 am

    But dAAAANNNN

  33. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 3, 2022 2:19 pm

    Pauline Hanson, her of the self-titled political fringe party, has today stormed out of Parliament in protest over the traditional acknowledgement of country.

    Traditional? When did this tradition start in Parliament?

  34. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 3, 2022 3:42 pm

    Yes. Qantas has sought to get a workforce that actually works

  35. Tom R permalink
    August 3, 2022 3:56 pm

    When did this tradition start in Parliament?

    Since 2008

    Qantas has sought to get a workforce that actually works

    Yes, a workforce that can take them from number 1, to working their way to the bottom? …… Do you ever think about what you write?

  36. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 3, 2022 4:08 pm

    I see the leader of the Greens just said this

    Gas companies are “poster child tax avoiders” which should be made to pay a greater share of revenue to fund essential services, Greens leader Adam Bandt says.

    But ALP/Greens want to get rid of fossil fuels. So we will get zero coal and gas revenue under these people.

    PS i would not say something which started in 2008 traditional.

  37. Tom R permalink
    August 3, 2022 4:33 pm

    PS i would not say something which started in 2008 traditional.

    But I’ll bet you are hooked on the date for Australia Day

  38. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 3, 2022 4:40 pm

    When did Australia day start? But i would not call something which started in 2008 traditional.

  39. TB Queensland permalink
    August 3, 2022 5:58 pm

    FFS! Kneel … recognising another mobs country has been traditional for 60,000 years … ADOPTING that tradition in Parliament, has been for 14 years.

    And before you start your bullshit argument – when does a “tradition” can begin?

  40. TB Queensland permalink
    August 3, 2022 6:03 pm

    FFS! Kneel!

    When did Australia day start?

    You don’t know? And you’re arguing about tradition?

  41. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 3, 2022 7:51 pm

    Did we invade East Timor? Or was it politically “arranged” so that Australia could steal resources?

    You cannot give Howard credit for anything. It was your hero PM Gough Whitlam who gave East Timor to Indonesia. Labor did not care about East Timor. Not worth a fight.

    It was John Howard who sent in the troops and got East Timor their independence

  42. Fur Rower Might`Teabag permalink
    August 4, 2022 9:41 am

    Yes. Qantas has sought to get a workforce that actually works
    So you blame chairman dan for the dud performance of old jonestown airport, knot the toxification of jobs via outsaucing by the boardrooms.`

  43. Tom R permalink
    August 4, 2022 9:47 am

    You don’t know? And you’re arguing about tradition?

    It is a guttertrash tradition for nil to argue about what they don’t know about. Let’s not go changing traditions now 😉

  44. Tom R permalink
    August 4, 2022 10:02 am

    The Friendly KingBreaker 🙂

  45. Fur Rower Might`Teabag permalink
    August 4, 2022 10:03 am

    ” The government demanded no equity in exchange for its largesse, and Qantas management gave no reassurances, either – not about jobs, routes, services or quality. While milking the taxpayer teat for two-thirds of the value of the company, Qantas management did not maintain jobs.”

    So (if-true) gold parenting medalists are knot bothered about the 2/3rd ‘value’ drained from treasury into qantas, building the debt/deficit mountain of crap dropped on their baby primates. At least the asset stripping and sovereign risk loading of muppet island so publicly give thePanda comfort. Good thing there is know other risks out there.`

  46. August 4, 2022 4:06 pm

    Re:

    … milking the taxpayer teat …

    Way back in 1761 in America, an anti-British slogan was generated (before the American Revolution – 1775-1783). In full, it stated – “Taxation without representation is tyranny.” It was attributed to James Otis and reflected the resentment of American colonists at being taxed by a British Parliament to which they elected no representatives. Versions of that mantra still exists today.

    That ‘common sense’, like much of American political discourse, now finds a home in Australia – which has a completely different history. But one shouldn’t be surprised because while Australia is quick to claim sovereignty , it’s largely limited to the ‘verbalised’ level. At the ‘lived’ level we tend to be ‘followers’ – not ‘leaders’ – eveready to accept a ‘reality’ as constructed by the ‘other’ as any reading of recent history will demonstrate.

    Thus we can accurately describe ourselves as a Deputy Sheriff to the USA as pointed out by US President Bush and originally welcomed by John Howard. But perhaps ‘language’ is not important. And being labelled as the poor white trash of Asia should matter not.

  47. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 4, 2022 4:42 pm

    Did we invade East Timor? Or was it politically “arranged” so that Australia could steal resources?

    TB

    You really should apologise for that statement. This from Wikipedia about what your hero Gough whitlam did

    In September 1974, Whitlam met with President Suharto in Indonesia and indicated that he would support Indonesia if it annexed East Timor.[137]

    Whatever the motives were of John Howard/Coalition, Howard sent in the troops and got East Timor their independence. Something the Labor Party did not care about. The ALP is just a waste of space as a political party. It just destroys people lives.

  48. August 4, 2022 5:06 pm

    How long will it take for Hanson et al to jump on the ‘super tax’ (windfall profits) bandwagon? On behalf of Labor, Chalmers rejected that path in response to a question from Steggall today.

    Guess, the promise of “no new taxes” (a foolish one) might be the beginning of the end because so many more citizens see graphs showing rising profits with an increasing percentage going to ‘capital’ at the expense of ‘labour’.

    Best to act when the polls are positive because, as a glance at the historical record will show, the ‘honeymoon’ is somewhat brief.

  49. TB Queensland permalink
    August 4, 2022 6:47 pm

    You really should apologise for that statement.

    NO! I should not! You should for your iggorance!

    I disagreed with Indonesia annexing East Timor (and West Papua) … they are sovereign states … East Timor was a major asset (help) to Australia during WW2 …

    Just because you are blinded to anything Johnny Howard and the Private School Boys and the LNP did … doesn’t mean that I am … nor am I blinded to the stupidity that Labor can do …

    Did Australia “steal” gas from ET did Australia use detection devices in ET parliament?

    ET are our ALLIES FFS!, Kneel!

    A family member served there …

    You know SFA …

    Why do I reply this crap?

    ‘Tis fun … 😎

  50. TB Queensland permalink
    August 4, 2022 6:55 pm

    … increasing percentage going to ‘capital’ at the expense of ‘labour’.

    A never-ending story, MN, hence my use of Robber Barons … they have always been here but now they are Corporate Robber Barons … and the ignorance of company boards astounds me … if the workforce is shifted to a resource pool … then those SKILLED workers and their families wil literally REVOLT!

    They have to to simply survive and provide for their families …

    Welcome to the 51st State of the USA …

    Trickle down economics is a farce … vacuum up economics is slowly destroying Western communities and what do we end up with … communism or complete global annihilation just because of greedy pricks who have more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ than they could use in a million lifetime … the poor and destitute (now middle class!) need a decent cut of the profit!

  51. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 4, 2022 8:39 pm

    Did Australia “steal” gas from ET did Australia use detection devices in ET parliament?

    Once again you divert. I have never heard you condemn Whitlam/ALP. I have only heard you condemn Howard about East Timor. This from Wikipedia

    There are a number of reasons why the Whitlam Government supported Indonesia’s
    annexation of East Timor. Whitlam, speaking to the ABC, said to an extent, his Government was carrying on the view that East Timor was not viable as an independent state.[10] Additionally, there were initial fears of a possible Communist government being installed in East Timor by the Timorese, after the withdrawal of the Portuguese. This saw the Whitlam Government look favourably upon Indonesian annexation, and Whitlam expressed this desire to Suharto in a visit to him in 1974.[11]

    You should be praising John Howard not trying to divert the topic to stealing gas.

    It was your party that gave away East Timor. It was John Howard who sent in the troops and got their independence.

  52. TB Queensland permalink
    August 4, 2022 11:19 pm

    It was John Howard who sent in the troops and got their independence.

    And attempted to steal gas income from a third world country!

    FFS! Kneel!

  53. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 4, 2022 11:24 pm

    And attempted to steal gas income from a third world country!

    FFS! Kneel!

    Thank you for proving me right.

    You do not condemn Whitlam/ALP who gave away East Timor. But you condemn John Howard who sent in the troops and got East Timor their independence.

  54. Tony permalink
    August 5, 2022 2:05 am

    Great news everyone! Things aren’t as bad as we’ve been told.

    GREAT BARRIER REEF SETS RECORD FOR CORAL COVER

    … The latest data on the GBR indicates it is in good shape. It happens to have a great deal of coral in 2022 because there have been few major mortality events over the last five to ten years. The three or four bleaching events since 2016, which have been widely reported in the media, could not have killed much coral, otherwise the 2022 statistics would not be so good.

    The data since 1986 shows that every region, every sector and most reefs have occasionally had periods of very low coral cover for one reason or another. This is entirely natural. The media makes much of occasional setbacks to coral cover, but a measure of the health of an ecosystem is the ability to recover from a major stress. Frail systems will not recover, robust systems recover well, just as healthy people recover quickly from disease.

    The GBR has proven to be a vibrant and healthy ecosystem. This should not be a surprise; there are few human pressures on the reef, and it is well protected. It is also unreasonable to expect that the small temperature rise over the last century (1°C) will have caused much impact, especially as it is well known that most corals grow faster in warmer water.

    The data collected by AIMS shows that the GBR is a robust system with rapidly fluctuating coral cover. We must expect that, sometime in the future, a sequence of events will cause the coral cover to fall sharply, as it did in 2011. We must then remember that this is almost certainly natural, and not allow the merchants of doom to depress the children.

    Evidence here: https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2022/08/Ridd-Record-Coral-GBR.pdf?mc_cid=4682239443&mc_eid=85327a63aa

  55. August 5, 2022 6:28 am

    Great news. Global warming’s a hoax. No need for targets. Approve more mines – NOW!. Bring more coal into Parliament. Resurrect Morrison – all is forgiven. It’s another ‘miracle’. Egg(s) on faces. No need to go nuclear. They’ve been lying to us.

    Bolt’s already out of the blocks.

    One swallow DOES make a summer. It’s a fact.

    And so it goes.

  56. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 5, 2022 9:33 am

    Climate science isn’t science. Once I was true believer in AGW, concerned about the implications of the hockey stick graph, that most iconic of climate scare tactics. Then it turned out that the methodology was so flawed that it could produce a hockey stick graph out of white noise. The lead author of that propaganda paper falsely claimed in court filings (which he had to withdraw) that he had won a Nobel Prize. The stupid cunt was suing a journalist for accurately referring to him has Dr Fraudpants.

    If you are scientist with divergent views you risk being hounded out of academic institutions. If you want to review the data of other scientists you will be denied access to it. How very scientific.

    If you are concerned about AGW and want to look at the most cost-effective ways of dealing with it you will be denied appointments at two Australian “universities” as Lomberg was.

    If scientists and politicians were actually serious about climate change they would have already built their alternative supply of base load power. They haven’t but if they started in the nineties the problem would be solved by now.

  57. August 5, 2022 11:38 am

    Yay! Climate change is over and all those so called “endangered species” are coming back to life too!!

    How’s the awesomeness??!!!

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-05/baby-boom-endangered-wildlife-cambodia-angkor-wat/101303212

  58. TB Queensland permalink
    August 5, 2022 5:01 pm

    The Nadesalingam family have been granted permanent visas a month after they were released from community detention on bridging visas and allowed to return home to Biloela in Queensland, according to friends of the family.

    How easy was that …

  59. TB Queensland permalink
    August 5, 2022 5:06 pm

    Floods, storms and heatwaves are a direct product of the climate crisis – that’s a fact, so where is the action?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/04/floods-storms-heatwaves-direct-product-climate-crisis

    So, prove that any gods exist … ’cause if you can, they’re quite incompetent – if – you can prove it … preferably scientifically … ’cause the numbers simply don’t add up … just the deaths …

  60. August 6, 2022 7:48 pm

    Is China more “democratic” than the USA? Might depend on how you define it and whom you ask.

  61. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 6, 2022 8:53 pm

    Did Australia “steal” gas from ET did Australia use detection devices in ET parliament?

    Don’t know. Do you have a link?

    Why cannot you give John Howard some credit for sending in the troops no matter what the motive was? OK you say Howard sent in the troops to steal East Timors gas. Fine, at least he sent in the troops.

    Your hero Gough Whitlam and Labor gave away East Timor. This from The Guardian

    On foreign policy, Whitlam supported some troubling causes. He cosied up to Indonesian dictator General Suharto, and gave his assent to Jakarta’s plans to occupy what was then Portuguese Timor.

  62. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 7, 2022 12:42 am

    Yeah, of course it appears that CCP oversees a vibrant democracy… if you have your head right up Xi Jinping’s arse

  63. August 7, 2022 9:06 am

    Ethnocentrism on display. As well as an inability to comprehend, leading to ‘wild’, pejorative and inaccurate claims about ‘support’ and the like. (You do have your problems – and at any number of levels.)

    Also noted is the clear distinction you invariably draw between the CCP (bad) and the Chinese (good) as though that’s a universally useful way to proceed.

    Travel to Germany and it’s quite common for guides to speak of NAZIS (bad) as if NAZIS (historically) were not German. And Putin (bad) is not Russian (possibly good).

    In return, (and for reasons of factual accuracy), one points out Australians (good) only went to Vietnam and Iraq because of the LIBERALS (bad).

  64. TB Queensland permalink
    August 7, 2022 11:00 am

    … if you have your head right up Xi Jinping’s arse …

    Linque?

  65. TB Queensland permalink
    August 7, 2022 11:06 am

    MN, I’ve suggested here before that people read Kissinger’s “On China” … gives a pretty good “history” of the political developments in China and how history influences policies in the 21st Century …

    I used, an example, in a discussion at home just yesterday imagine if Tasmania decided to become Communist in 1946 … would Australians be comfortable?

    Most people are unaware of the Chinese invasion let alone the events after the Nationalists kicked them out … and the Communists returned from hiding in the hills …

  66. August 7, 2022 2:04 pm

    TB – Find it hard (stupid) to be ‘black and white’ on most issues – with China/Taiwan definitely in the ‘too hard’ basket. Think it was reckless for Pelosi and self-indulgent to do what she did. And am not alone.

    There are consequences. Predictable and predicted.

  67. August 7, 2022 2:24 pm

    Those who cling to deontological ethics tend to see ‘issues’ in terms of right/wrong. Don’t appreciate that what might be ‘right’ can also be ‘bad’ and what might be described as ‘wrong’ can also be ‘good’.

    Thus ‘lying’ is NOT necessarily ‘wrong’. Telling an untruth (lying) can be ‘good’. Indeed a failure to ‘lie’ might prove to be very bad indeed. And so on.

    That sometimes brings to the metaphorical table what is sometimes labelled ‘existential’ or ‘consequential’ ethics. (Not that ‘great powers’ are ever limited by ethical considerations. That’s just for the punters. Plato’s ‘cave dwellers’.)

  68. TB Queensland permalink
    August 7, 2022 6:23 pm

    Think it was reckless for Pelosi and self-indulgent to do what she did. And am not alone.

    Before I even watch your links … (😉) … I agree, wholeheartedly. In my “world” she was incompetent at the lowest level as the House Speaker and as third in line – that’s dangerous to all of us!

    What on earth did she hope to gain? In fact, she put the Earth at extreme risk … the ignorance is beyond belief …

    There will never be a WW IV … there will be no-one left to wage it … it only takes one – oops!

    And history may not repeat but it certainly rhymes!

  69. TB Queensland permalink
    August 7, 2022 6:42 pm

    That’s just for the punters. Plato’s ‘cave dwellers’.

    In my “real world” … philosophy is an indulgence … politics is an insult … and life knowledge is existence … royalty is a farce … and religion has been/is the greatest cause of wars, poverty, inequality, control and particularly female abuse (oddly enough enabled by females – and never researched …why?).

    Simple example – I served a a National Serviceman during the “American War” in Vietnam … when asked what my religion was I said – “agnostic” … my files show … C of E … at the time I was married with a daughter … my NoK – my father, not my wife! … ludicrous “democratic” power … encouraged by – religion.

    To top all that, I have NAA evidence that I was “Balloted Out” of NS and a handwritten red line through my name and a notation “now active” … trust government? Offered a substantial bounty to “sign on” at my discharge …

    Rant over …

  70. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 8, 2022 8:32 am

    “Think it was reckless for Pelosi and self-indulgent to do what she did. And am not alone.”

    It is usually reckless to stand up to bullies. And is it reckless to walk out alone in skimpy clothing late at night?

    Not stopping Hitler when he took the Sudetenland was reckless. It cost tens of millions of lives. Same with China. Allowing the Chinese annexation of Taiwan will ultimately cost many more lives.

  71. TB Queensland permalink
    August 8, 2022 9:08 am

    Only one example above aligns with Pelosi’s posturing …

  72. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 8, 2022 9:15 am

    There are two moral principles worth considering:

    1. “do unto others as you would have them do unto you”, or in the Kantian variation: “act only in accordance with that maxim through which you can at the same time will that it become a universal law”. This rule emphasises equality and that people cannot be just a means to an end.

    2. Choose that which produces the greatest good for the greatest number. This is what the Aztec priests thought they were doing when performing human sacrifice.

  73. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 8, 2022 9:21 am

    Pelosi was on a shopping trip. Liken Biden taking his crackhead son to China to further the Biden family business interests, Sleazy Pelosi took to her son to Taiwan. The Pelosi family are brilliant and successful investors and no doubt Pauli Jr will snag a few good deals to bolster the already obscene family fortune.

  74. Tom R permalink
    August 8, 2022 10:45 am

    The US has always needed a war to maintain its weapons industry. China seems to be the next target. China are happily obliging, themselves being no better than America

    Meanwhile, Labor has its work cut out, as the the decade of decay unravels to expose how threadbare our services have become.

  75. Tom R permalink
    August 8, 2022 11:22 am

    Bizarre watching the libs berate Labor over fuel prices. Even more so when you know this is ALL their fault

    Motorists could have saved $5.9bn in fuel costs over the last six years if Australia had adopted fuel efficiency standards in 2015, according to a new report.

    …………..

    The report finds that the release of 9m tonnes of carbon dioxide would have been prevented, similar to a year’s worth of emissions from domestic aviation, and that Australia would have needed to import 4,000 megalitres less fuel.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/aug/08/australian-fuel-efficiency-standards-could-have-saved-motorists-59bn-research-shows

  76. TB Queensland permalink
    August 8, 2022 2:36 pm

    Can you spot Lord ToM in this article?

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2022/08/08/qantas-execs-baggage-handlers/

  77. August 8, 2022 5:22 pm

    Re:

    Pelosi family are brilliant and successful investors

    Indeed! And Nancy (as Speaker) has access to ‘insider info’ that is of particular assistance in share trading. A recent example related to ‘funding’ to be to US ‘chip makers’. Shortages of ‘chips’ wrought havoc on many and varied production lines, including vehicle manufacturing’ in recent years. Hence much assistance provided.

    In Australia she would have been in all sorts of trouble but the USA has different rules. Because Pelosi’s ‘dealings’ were disclosed, there were no illegalities. Shakes head.

    Re:

    if Australia had adopted fuel efficiency standards

    John Cadogan’s been on about this for years. Because of this lack (or laxity) of fuel standards, many manufacturers are able to ‘dump’ vehicles/engines in Australia that have been banned elsewhere. Think he’s also connected the practice to donations made.

    Re:

    US has always needed a war to maintain its weapons industry …

    Indeed.

    The US empire is addicted to a belief in its “exceptionalism”, “manifest destiny” and being the “indispensable nation”. It is grounded in aggression both at home and abroad. “Chosen people” find it hard to admit mistakes or change.

    Apart from brief isolationist periods, the US has been almost perpetually at war. The greatest military risk we run is acting as a proxy for the US in its dispute with China.

    The record is clear. Time and time again we have allowed ourselves to be drawn into the imperial wars of the UK and then the US. We have forfeited our strategic autonomy.

    Can’t see any change even when we elect a different party. Then again, ‘differences’ are rarely allowed to be an election issue.

  78. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 8, 2022 5:36 pm

    Western democracies have no territorial claims on Russia or China.
    The CCP has territorial disputes with 17 countries and Russia is clearly expansionist
    What’s the problem with western democracies acting with more unity and co-ordination is the face of autocratic expansion?

  79. August 8, 2022 5:39 pm

    Re the execs as ‘baggage handlers’ – and the rate of pay, and conditions will be …? Overtime?

    No mention of it anywhere. Journalism at its ‘best’ or ‘worst’?

  80. TB Queensland permalink
    August 8, 2022 6:47 pm

    Where to start, MN… 😎

    There are no chips in the States! Its fries or nowt! (PS ‘Tis a strange and corrupt place … )

    Fuel efficiency has been well known for centuries … the modt efficient engine is still powered by steam (70%) … in the 70’s I was conducting training to carry out emission testing on owners’ vehicles for Nissan for the then Emission Control Standards under the Australian Design Rules for vehicles … WTF happened … ?

    US has always needed a war to maintain its weapons industry

    Only because the so called “democracy” is controlled by corporations … and we are getting there! They make the treasure at the expense of young soldiers blood … as JL always said … “what if we had a war – and nobody came?”

    Can’t see any change even when we elect a different party.

    Menzies took us into VN … by the time Whitlam came to a short lived power the war was dying … he immediately took NS from 2 years to 18 months … by ’72 NS was gone. However the childhood relationship continues with the Septic Tanks ad infinitum – as you say no matter what party … 20 fkn years in Afghanistan for what? … 10 years in VN for what?

    Our ADF has been used for so many years even they are fooled …

    Re the execs as ‘baggage handlers’

    Doesn’t say anyone has accepted … in my experience managers ain’t trained in management – and couldn’t find the starter on a forklift let alone operate one!

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    What’s the problem with western democracies acting with more unity and co-ordination is the face of autocratic expansion?

    You may get on with The Minister for War, Water, Finance and Fun, ToM, she keeps asking a similar question … I’ll give you the same answer … World War III (possibly probable) its a spilt second mistake and the World goes … pooof! Or p………………………………

  81. TB Queensland permalink
    August 8, 2022 6:51 pm

    Tonight, we’ll be having lamb chops and corn on the cob cooked on the BBQ … with potato, cauliflower, carrots and brussel sprouts from the kitchen … as we watch a Nordic Noir series on SBS … enjoy your evening. 😎

  82. TB Queensland permalink
    August 8, 2022 6:54 pm

    its a spilt second mistake and the World goes

    LOL! What a Freudian! spilt alright! Can’t pick it up! 🙄

  83. August 8, 2022 9:58 pm

    Re:

    What’s the problem with western democracies acting with more unity and co-ordination is the face of autocratic expansion?/blockquote>

    While the explanations/theories can be many and varied perhaps it’s because God is not willing to support same? (After all there’s so many who believe that there’s an Almighty who controls ‘everything’ so that would be a powerful explanation for any number.)

    But what’s YOUR view/theory/explanation of the problem you identify? (Because a solution seems far away.) So what concept(s) do you bring to bear in explaining the ‘WHY’ of behavior at the international level? Faith, hope and charity?

    For me, the POWER concept is the most useful. If you haven’t got the ‘power'(broadly defined) to change the behavior of the ‘other’, then you are stuck with the problem – aren’t you?

  84. TB Queensland permalink
    August 8, 2022 10:28 pm

    Are Israel’s intentions re: the Gaza Strip the same as China and Taiwan, or Russia and Ukraine?

  85. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 9, 2022 12:00 am

    And that is exactly why (despite all your negativity about it) , it is vital that countries with similar systems and values stand together, rather than be picked off one by one.
    Finally you’ve accepted the reality of this.

  86. TB Queensland permalink
    August 9, 2022 9:37 am

    And that is exactly why (despite all your negativity about it)

    Who you talkin’ to, Willis?

  87. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 9, 2022 9:56 am

    Are Israel’s intentions re: the Gaza Strip the same as China and Taiwan, or Russia and Ukraine?

    An ignorant anti-Semite would say.

    In fact the situation is quite the opposite. Russia claims large chunks of Ukraine on the basis of ethnically Russian demographics. Israel did the opposite – it forcibly removed Jewish residents of Gaza in an attempt to make peace with the Palestinians.

    Instead of making peace the Palestinians elected Hamas terrorists to lead them. Hamas, driven by its vile religious beliefs, is dedicated to the extermination of the state of Israel.

    In WWII, Hitler and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem were allies. The difference now is that the Germans have recanted their murderous ant-Semitism whereas the Palestinians have doubled down on theirs.

  88. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 9, 2022 10:03 am

    The FBI has raided Mar-A-Lago. The deep state is getting desperate.

  89. August 9, 2022 2:16 pm

    Re:

    countries with similar systems and values stand together

    So what values are you referring to? And are they at the lived level or just at the verbalised level? Perhaps there are a great many more differences you haven’t considered? And perhaps we have more in common with the other ‘great powers’ than you admit?

    You would be aware that:

    Over two centuries, the US has subverted and overthrown numerous governments. It has a military and business complex that depends on war for influence and enrichment. …

    Since its founding in 1776, the US has been at war 93 per cent of the time. These wars have extended from its own hemisphere to the Pacific, to Europe and most recently to the Middle East. The US has launched 201 out of 248 armed conflicts since the end of World War II. In recent decades most of these wars have been unsuccessful.

    The US maintains 800 military bases or sites around the world, including in Australia. The US has in our region a massive deployment of hardware and troops in Japan, the Republic of Korea and Guam. China has one off shore naval base in Djibouti in the Horn of Africa …

    Then there’s the supposedly similar structures and more importantly the way they’ve evolved. Or are we simply ‘powerless’? Without even ‘influence’? So many issued that might be explored and should. Your ‘reality’ and the way it’s ‘constructed’ is not mine.

  90. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 9, 2022 2:17 pm

    Some sage advice from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention:

  91. Tom R permalink
    August 9, 2022 2:19 pm

    The FBI has raided Mar-A-Lago

    Is it really a raid if the media isn’t informed first though?

    It’s hard to know why, I mean, he only orchestrated an attempt to steal the Presidency. Surely all’s fair and all that rot?

  92. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 9, 2022 2:31 pm

    The world is lucky the US got involved in the two world wars. The US was instrumental in the defeat of communism in the USSR and Eastern Europe. Communism, an atheist strain of socialism, was responsible for over 100 million deaths in the 20th century.

    The US, for all its many failings, is still the best option we’ve got. Better than China or Russia and much better than the dictators club that is the UN.

    If Australia does not want an alliance with a great power then it should develop its own nukes and the ability to deliver them accurately anywhere in the world.

  93. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 9, 2022 2:34 pm

    Before Trump was president the FBI, at the behest of the Clinton campaign, lied to the court to fraudulently obtain a warrant to spy on Trump. This is the same FBI acting in the service of the Democrats.

  94. Tom R permalink
    August 9, 2022 2:40 pm

    The US, for all its many failings, is still the best option we’ve got.

    I don’t disagree. Although, as we have seen, we were very close to them not being the best option.

    And you still think the Democrats are pulling the strings of the FBI lol

    I mean, perhaps, just perhaps, trumP ISN’T the Messiah?

    Trump has previously come under scrutiny for his flagrant violations of the Presidential Records Act of 1978 – mandating the preservation of White House documents – but the search for the first time, appears to indicate potential legal jeopardy for Trump over his records practices.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/08/trump-says-fbi-raided-his-mar-a-lago-home

  95. Tom R permalink
    August 9, 2022 2:59 pm

    NOT SATIRE!

  96. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 9, 2022 3:06 pm

    If you need to ask what are the similar values among western democracies, you’re not very bright

  97. Tom R permalink
    August 9, 2022 3:29 pm

    Some sage advice from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention:

    It’s becoming obvious to me why I haven’t caught Monkeypox yet 😦

  98. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 9, 2022 4:32 pm

    The CDC guidelines would bring a lot of my favourite events to a grinding halt, so to speak.

    I also hear that there is talk of the name “Monkeypox” being offensive. The suggestion is that it be renamed Schlong Covid.

  99. August 9, 2022 4:39 pm

    Re:

    similar values among western democracies

    I referred to the lived values. You know that which guides/drives/displays their behavior on a day to day basis. Not what they say (espouse) but what they do (live). What sent them to Vietnam and Iraq (two examples only).

    In Australia, we have a US-centric media which has no apparent understanding or appreciation that US, UK, Australian and Japanese warships patrolling off the Chinese coast (part of the One China geographic region) reminds them of earlier Western gunboat diplomacy and a century of humiliation.

    When you next visit China, go to The Bund (or Waitan) which is a waterfront area and a protected historical district in central Shanghai. Listen to the guides who will point out the humiliation suffered by the Chinese in their own country at that time. Then there’s the Rape of Nanjing.

    And when you next visit Russia, listen to tales re the deaths of 27 million people (greater than Australia’s current population) on the Russian side at the hands of the Germans and then you might realise why they don’t want NATO missiles on their border.

    Maybe then you’ll appreciate what ‘lived’ values are all about. And why Putin’s actions meet with local approval.

    Just trying to be fair and balanced.

  100. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 9, 2022 4:53 pm

    You look for every possible reason to brown nose to expansionist autocratic regimes, you try to excuse/contextualise their brutality in a way you would condemn in the west.
    You ridicule efforts of smaller countries to maintain alliances that will assist to deter the encroachment of brutal regimes
    You play a “look over there” game to diminish brutality
    You obfuscate about things as simple as countries with shared values sharing a common interest in maintaining their values.

  101. August 9, 2022 4:54 pm

    And in the tradition of being ‘fair and balanced’ – try this.

    By the way, it would seem that the QANTAS execs aren’t being paid at going rate. Will he come out of hiding and do some volunteering? Set an example and all that. And if he does, will he depart with the TVs, and the background nodders?

  102. August 9, 2022 5:01 pm

    ToM – still waiting for you to identify these shared (lived) values that are somehow unique to the USA and Australia and not to be found in the Nations populated by groups not to your liking.

    Come on – for a person with your (implied) superior intellect it should be a breeze.

  103. August 9, 2022 5:06 pm

    Re: (your current favourite)

    expansionist autocratic regimes

    Would NATO fit that description? If not, then why not?

  104. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 9, 2022 5:43 pm

    Hilarious
    Did you notice that countries voluntarily join NATO? And countries that were formerly neutral choose to join?
    Every former Warsaw Pact country now opposes Russia. Do you think they’re all wrong or acting out of a sense of self interest/preservation?

  105. August 9, 2022 5:45 pm

    Would you believe China is doing what the USA once did?

    Isn’t history mind blowing?

  106. TB Queensland permalink
    August 9, 2022 6:39 pm

    And when you next visit Russia, listen to tales re the deaths of 27 million people (greater than Australia’s current population) on the Russian side at the hands of the Germans and then you might realise why they don’t want NATO missiles on their border.

    1. Russia actually won WW11 by defeating the SS and Wehrmacht on Russian soil at an enormous cost ie 27 million … (the Battle of Britain helped earlier) …

    2. Having “missiles on the border” is 1950/60’s Cold War a fallacy …

    The Minuteman III inter-continental ballistic missile (ICBM) has the longest range of operational missiles in the United States, with a range of 13,000 kilometers. With a range of 12,000 kilometers, the submarine-launched Trident missile has the second-longest range among American missiles.

    If you think Russia is the only country playing propaganda here … think again … it works on both sides.

    I have it on good authority that the British civilians looked forward to listening to Lord Haw Haw during WWII.

    And do some research on VN, Iraq, Afghanistan propaganda … ain’t no rules once the bullets start to fly … and any strategic plans go up in smoke – with the first round – ask Putin …

  107. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 9, 2022 6:41 pm

    “It’s becoming obvious to me why I haven’t caught Monkeypox yet”

    Is it your latex fetish that protects you or your mastery of masturbation at six paces?

  108. Tom R permalink
    August 9, 2022 10:00 pm

    Is it your latex fetish that protects you or your mastery of masturbation at six paces?

    Yes 😉

    More latex here too

  109. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 10, 2022 8:57 am

    The FBI defrauded the court to get a warrant to spy on Trump before he was elected and again after he took office as president. Four times in all.

  110. TB Queensland permalink
    August 10, 2022 9:08 am

    So much for being allied with the USA …

    ‘The US let him go free’: release of terrorist who killed unarmed Australian soldiers shows contempt for ally, family says

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/10/the-us-let-him-go-free-release-of-terrorist-who-killed-unarmed-australian-soldiers-shows-contempt-for-ally-family-says

  111. TB Queensland permalink
    August 10, 2022 9:27 am

    LOL! Great (must) read …

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/09/donald-trump-fbi-mar-a-lago-president

  112. TB Queensland permalink
    August 10, 2022 9:37 am

    If you’ve done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear … shimples

    The full implications of the FBI’s decision to search Donald Trump’s home in Florida today may lie in a relatively obscure corner of American law.

    Under Title 18 of the US Code, you will find Section 2071, titled “Concealment, removal or mutilation generally”. It concerns the mishandling of government documents.

    The section states that any individual with “the custody” of such documents who “wilfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies or destroys” them “shall be fined or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States”.

    https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/obscure-law-might-explain-why-fbi-raided-donald-trumps-home-at-maralago/news-story/f5932dc8c9480994ba92a40219f371a0

  113. Tom R permalink
    August 10, 2022 9:52 am

    The FBI defrauded the court to get a warrant to spy on Trump

    ?

  114. Tom R permalink
    August 10, 2022 10:11 am

    I truly don’t understand duttons game. Is irrelevance his ultimate goal?

  115. TB Queensland permalink
    August 10, 2022 2:09 pm

    Potatoes have no brains … and very thin skins …

  116. TB Queensland permalink
    August 10, 2022 2:36 pm

    If anyone is interested …

    https://www.factcheck.org/2022/08/qa-on-the-fbis-search-of-trumps-mar-a-lago-home/

  117. August 10, 2022 5:21 pm

    In Australia, archivists, even at the State level, take their role very seriously. They don’t care about the immediate political consequences, their eyes are always for the long term.

    Sometimes, Ministers when reading ‘briefing papers’, Cabinet submissions etc might write in the margin(s) – What the fu** does this mean? Or something similar. Seemingly unaware that their petulant outburst will be forever on the historical record.

    More prudent Ministers make their comments on post-it notes which can then be rescued from what is then an Official document as the subsequent briefing proceeds.

    Strictly speaking, it’s not supposed to happen. It’s illegal. Any document generated is supposed to be an official document (including the post-it notes) which might be released almost immediately under FOI etc.

    As TB’s link explains, it’s not an offense to be taken lightly both in the USA, Australia and elsewhere. Can’t rewrite. Serious consequences.

    (Ironic that the Head of the FBI – appointed by Trump – is now accused of being part of the ‘deep state’. Hilarious.)

  118. August 10, 2022 5:35 pm

    While Dutton (Leader of the Libs) won’t attend the Jobs and Skills Summit , Littleproud (Leader of the Nats) said he would BUT he wasn’t invited.

    Presumably, the invite will now be in the mail.

    So Dutton is the political novice with Littleproud to get the daily media spotlight. A mistake!

    In the next election the ban on three-cornered contests ends in (traditional) ‘conservative’ seats without a sitting member. Can only benefit the Nats.

  119. Tom R permalink
    August 10, 2022 6:15 pm

    Meat and one veg TB 😉

  120. TB Queensland permalink
    August 10, 2022 6:33 pm

    Presumably, the invite will now be in the mail.

    I hope so (… but … I don’t like Littleproud because of his damage to the Murray Darling but then so so many entities to dislike because of the MD … at least Cubby Stn is now owned by MACQUARIE Infrastructure and Real Assets (MIRA) … but that is small comfort … just as “grabbing” as Shandong Ruyi (Ruyi) …

    Oddly enough I thinl Littleproud could be a very effective operator if he worked for Australians …

  121. TB Queensland permalink
    August 10, 2022 6:35 pm

    Meat and one veg TB 😉

    Bloody hell! TR … got it in one! 🙄😎

  122. TB Queensland permalink
    August 10, 2022 6:36 pm

    “Oddly enough I thinl Littleproud …”

    Chuckle – where’s K again? Fat finger syndrome … and that’s not all!

  123. TB Queensland permalink
    August 10, 2022 6:42 pm

    Oh! FFS!

    Donald Trump’s legal team has floated an explosive theory, sensationally claiming the FBI may have “planted” incriminating evidence at the former president’s residence.

    Paranoid or what!

  124. August 10, 2022 7:40 pm

    Mike Scrafton argues that Australia is now (effectively) the 51st State of the USA.

    “The Australia-US Ministerial Consultations (AUSMIN) joint statement records Australia’s surreptitious accession as the 51st state of the Union. That it has been done without a vote, or even a serious national or parliamentary debate, highlights the accompanying loss of democracy.

    Australia has effectively surrendered its right to say what kinds of military platforms and weapons can be brought on to, or stationed in, its territory.”

    Perhaps we are now a ‘guided democracy’ with the USA now effectively driving the ‘political bus’. So much for ‘sovereignty’.

    https://johnmenadue.com/ausmin-and-aukusits-even-worse-than-you-think/

  125. August 10, 2022 7:58 pm

    TB – re Littleproud.

    Some years ago David Littleproud’s father (Brian) was the Principal of a very small school on the Downs. He was also a grazier of sorts with a very modest herd of cattle.

    The school was visited by an Inspector who advised Brian that he couldn’t be both a Principal and a grazier. He had to choose. So he did. Ran for Parliament and soon became Minister for Education and therefore the Inspector’s boss.

    Both ‘dined out’ on the story for years.

  126. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 10, 2022 10:59 pm

    Dissent in Russia…
    The home of a former state TV journalist who quit after making an on-air protest against Moscow’s war in Ukraine was raided by Russian authorities Wednesday.

    A criminal case against Marina Ovsyannikova was also launched on the charge of spreading false information about the Russian armed forces, her lawyer said on social media.

    The case was launched under a law, enacted after the Feb. 24 invasion of Ukraine, that penalizes statements against the military, lawyer Dmitry Zakhvatov said. A conviction is punishable by up to 15 years in prison.

  127. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 11, 2022 9:25 am

    “Paranoid or what!”`

    Because the FBI would never do anything like that to get at Trump would they? Oh wait they already have:

    FBI Attorney Admits Altering Email Used for FISA Application During “Crossfire Hurricane” Investigation

  128. Fur Rower Might`Teabag permalink
    August 11, 2022 3:24 pm

    ‘ allowed to return home to Biloela ‘

    Finally, thank fcuk for that. Just how many squillions did team-spite blow persecuting these poor folks and using the system to engage in child abuse.`

  129. Fur Rower Might`Teabag permalink
    August 11, 2022 3:34 pm

    ‘ for a person with your (implied) superior intellect ‘

    Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Haw! Great Comedy MN.`

  130. Fur Rower Might`Teabag permalink
    August 11, 2022 3:48 pm

    ‘ Did you notice that countries voluntarily join NATO? ‘
    Did they. Or did yankeeland entice/ leverage them. Did you notice nato sleep walked into the crimea-2013 wreckage, or were you too busy sock-cucking the mh17 boardroom. Did you notice that theRealdeal had nato’s number long ago, and theRealdeal merely sticky taped the nato chook shed door closed, leaving them inside clucking ever since.`

  131. TB Queensland permalink
    August 11, 2022 4:34 pm

    Australia has been heading blundering down the path to becoming the 51st state of the US of A for sometime … this is what to expect!

    Under United States labour laws, workers in all 50 states bar Montana are subject to at-will employment. This means employees can be fired without prior warning and without the need for the employer to establish a cause. However, employers can still be challenged on the grounds of wrongful termination – like discrimination.

    While some states have exceptions – for example, workers in the public sector, or those under union agreements – the states of Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Maine, Nebraska, New York, and Rhode Island have no exceptions in regards as to why an employee may be terminated.

    Read on …

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/entire-starbucks-team-walks-out-during-shift-after-manager-fires-union-leader/news-story/f39cc5e840f4224699ad1253ccc23bb3

  132. TB Queensland permalink
    August 11, 2022 6:26 pm

    Chuckle …

    The FBI search of former President Donald Trump‘s Mar-a-Lago residence was sparked by an “FBI confidential human source” in the Trump camp who knew what documents to look for and the location.

    According to two separate reports in Newsweek and The Wall Street Journal, the raid of Donald Trump‘s Florida residence was also “deliberately timed to occur when the former president was away”.

  133. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 11, 2022 11:13 pm

    “51st state”
    You’re full of it

  134. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 12, 2022 7:50 am

    Now that the deep state is flexing its nuts it is getting another 87,000 IRS agents to “serve” the people. Job requirements include carrying a firearm and a willingness to use deadly force:

    Let’s hope the ATO doesn’t get any ideas.

  135. TB Queensland permalink
    August 12, 2022 10:25 am

    ‘Be willing to use deadly force, if necessary’

    You sound surprised, splats … its the fkn USA!

    But we do import all their other shit why not that … we could be the deep state in the deep South Pacific … or just the 51st State of the Union (union? FFS!)

  136. TB Queensland permalink
    August 12, 2022 10:25 am

    You’re full of it …

    Interesting life knowledge and experience that I share especially to help you through life, ToM?

    Or links to so many interesting articles … you’d never find without my links …

    BTW, have you found an eReader yet? I suggest a Kobo for good value and features …

    I’m still reading ebooks that kittylitter (remember KL?) sent me on a disk – over 3,000 FREE!

  137. Tom R permalink
    August 12, 2022 11:23 am

    its the fkn USA!

    I know right, deadly force is where they start at ffs lol

    I see the deep state is … what trump created? Hillary must be pissing herself atm

  138. Tom R permalink
    August 12, 2022 11:27 am

    I’m sure friendly jordies would step in and offer some details for them 🙂

    These bozzos fold like paper envelopes when their corrupt machinations finally get exposed.

  139. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 12, 2022 12:09 pm

    Being publicly exposed as a conniving lying venal snake on the make might impact your health. He’s probably on suicide watch.

  140. August 12, 2022 1:08 pm

    Note Kissinger’s warning:

    “To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal”.

    The US has also invaded or bombed dozen of countries and supported nearly every single right-wing dictatorship in the world since the end of World War II. It has overthrown or attempted to overthrow dozens of foreign governments since 1949 and has actively sought to crush nearly every single people’s liberation movement over that same period. It has also meddled in scores of elections, in countries that are allies and adversaries alike.

    With that in mind, it’s little wonder that nations join up of their own accord. Lol.

  141. Tom R permalink
    August 12, 2022 1:25 pm

    Being publicly exposed as a conniving lying venal snake on the make might impact your health.

    Sorry, which post were you referring to? 😉

  142. Tom R permalink
    August 12, 2022 2:02 pm

  143. TB Queensland permalink
    August 12, 2022 2:55 pm

    Sorry, which post were you referring to? 😉

    Surely this one … 😊

    I see the deep state is … what trump created? or <

  144. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 12, 2022 3:44 pm

    Barilaro. But on the other hand:

    America has the Fifth Amendment, in Australia we pull a sickie. “Sorry, can’t attend today’s activities, got a sore bum”

    Sounds like FBI Director, Chris Wray. The arrogant fuck ran off early from his Senate hearing saying he had a plane to catch. He didn’t mention that the plane was his government-funded private jet flying His Lordship to his holiday retreat. Congressional oversight be damned.

  145. Tom R permalink
    August 12, 2022 4:04 pm

    The arrogant fuck

    Given who appointed him, what more would you expect?

  146. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 12, 2022 5:32 pm

    * 51st state
    * Guided democracy
    …what a lot of crap

  147. TB Queensland permalink
    August 12, 2022 6:29 pm

    …what a lot of crap

    ToM is this you?

    He didn’t mention that the plane was his government-funded private jet flying His Lordship to his holiday retreat.

    WTF is “guided democracy”?

  148. August 12, 2022 6:39 pm

    Guided Democracy (Indonesian: Demokrasi Terpimpin) was the political system in place in Indonesia from 1959 until the New Order began in 1966. It was the brainchild of President Sukarno, and was an attempt to bring about political stability.

  149. August 12, 2022 7:00 pm

    As an aspirant State of the USA, perhaps we should adopt (and then adapt) the very potent mantra of yore. “No taxation without representation” might become

    “No new wars without public consultation”. Giving teeth to democracy.

  150. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 12, 2022 7:21 pm

    TomR

    I do not get it? Why the witch hunt against Barilaro?

    I do not remember you posting anything against the much more corrupt politicians in the Carr ALP NSW government.

  151. Tom R permalink
    August 12, 2022 9:50 pm

    Why the witch hunt against Barilaro

    It’s not a witch hunt. IT’S A STALKING!! 🙂

  152. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 12, 2022 10:41 pm

    TomR

    You did not answer my question.

    Why didn’t you and “””friendly leftie””” post anything against the much more corrupt Carr ALP NSW govt??

  153. August 13, 2022 9:55 am

    Did you know that John Howard described ­Donald Trump’s behaviour as ‘appalling’ and ‘atrocious’ for not accepting the outcome of the 2020 US presidential election and therefore not fit for future office.

    Isn’t America a ‘democracy’? That it’s for US citizens to ‘decide’. Or is he suggesting that as citizens in the 51st State we too should have A VOICE

    But not sure whether he’s helping, hindering or there for comedic relief.

  154. TB Queensland permalink
    August 13, 2022 11:31 am

    Negative Gearing HAS to go!

    Even economists are now calling for it!

    https://www.theage.com.au/property/news/why-the-cost-of-negative-gearing-tax-breaks-is-likely-to-rise-20220810-p5b8qh.html

  155. TB Queensland permalink
    August 13, 2022 11:34 am

    Give the NG tax break to first home buyers!

  156. August 13, 2022 1:19 pm

    TB from your linked article:

    … Australian taxpayers could spend billions … negative gearing cost taxpayers … cost the public purse up to … would cost taxpayers significantly …

    After that conceptual confusion, some clarity from the Grattan Institute ;

    … cost the federal government substantially …

    Conflating taxpayers such as BHP, (the largest Australian taxpayer), the big 4 Banks, Miners, Retailers, etc with Citizens – the rightful owners and electors of the government – has long-term effects.

    It’s not necessary to be a Taxpayer to be a voting Citizen. Indeed the biggest taxpayers aren’t. While all Taxpayers are not equal, all Citizens are (when it comes to the franchise.)

    But as Georg Simmel points out:

    .. as our labor and lives are quantified by monetary value, humans are also becoming like money, indistinguishable in number; independent and flexible at the cost of the loss of a fixed and specific identity.

    Perhaps the actual enemy can be found by looking in the mirror?

    https://www.waggish.org/2016/georg-simmels-philosophy-of-money-5/

  157. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 13, 2022 7:25 pm

    Did you know that John Howard described ­Donald Trump’s behaviour as ‘appalling’ and ‘atrocious’ for not accepting the outcome of the 2020 US presidential election and therefore not fit for future office.

    Well if Howard did say that he may be right. Trump should have accepted the result of the election. If he had any problems with the results he could have followed it up when he lost office.

    Trouble with comments by Howard is that people twist his words. I am still waiting MN for a link that say the Howard would say nothing after he lost office.

    MN- you come from the side of politics that twists people words. I would really like to see a like where Howard said he would say nothing when he lost office.

    Please provide me with that link.

  158. Tom R permalink
    August 14, 2022 6:10 pm

    Why didn’t you and “””friendly leftie””” post anything against the much more corrupt Carr ALP NSW govt??

    I’m pretty sure friendly was still in school back then, and, at the time, I had no interest in other states politics

    Of course, this means that what is happening is fine I assume?

  159. TB Queensland permalink
    August 14, 2022 6:59 pm

    MN

    I did read you’re links … enlightening but not convincing (I do love the innocence of philosophy) … human beings have always been a commodity … and controlled … no matter what economic system (usually coupled to a political dogma) we live and work under.

    As I’m sure you are aware, the original European tax (demanded by the Pope!) was for England and France to wage war in Palestine (oh, the irony of the 21st Century – now it Isreal) …

    Taxes have always been squandered on pointless religious wars (VN is one in point!) or political gain for, The Robber Barons, (eg East Timor – Ukraine) and individuals pay the price … not corporations – they profit from the “little” folk who pay with blood, anguish, treasure … not the CEO’s, or politician’s, or public servants … the Australian troops – sent to war and ignored when they return … it has always been …

    Could you clarify … Perhaps the actual enemy can be found by looking in the mirror?

    As for “indistinguishable in number” … another time …

    What has corporate tax to do with giving new home buyers an “equal” chance and removing an enticement for investors to look elsewhere … a home is not an investment it is a home … and tiny suburban boxes is no place to grow children … this nation will only survive if its children do and they are educated and healthy … and well housed … with access to a decent backyard!

    George Simmel … mmm … just had to look him up … Jewish family converted to Catholicism (father) and Methodist (mother) … left a fortune by “stepfather” spent his life “studying” …

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Simmel#Early_life_and_education

    G’night! Chuckle …

    BTW, Negative gearing has to go! Give the kids a break! Not the rich pricks! Again …..

  160. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 15, 2022 10:03 am

    “the original European tax (demanded by the Pope!) was for England and France to wage war in Palestine (oh, the irony of the 21st Century – now it Isreal)”

    Like so much else, TB, you are abjectly, ridiculously wrong on this. Not that you will admit it, of course.

    Before currency existed taxation in kind was prevalent in Europe. As soon as coinage was invented the Greek city states imposed taxes:

    The early form of taxation in Greece required these kinship groups to provide food, materials, and manpower to wage war and maintain religious monuments. In 500 B.C. coinage was implemented, which brought a huge economic change as well as the growth of trade and commerce. These Greek city-states raised revenue from numerous sources – some owned mines while others profited from conquering other states. Taxation was the most dependable way for Greek city-states to raise money.

    Of course the Romans imposed taxation from the time of the Republic onwards:

    In the early days of the Roman Republic, public taxes consisted of modest assessments on owned wealth and property.

    The tax rate under normal circumstances was 1% and sometimes would climb as high as 3% in situations such as war. These modest taxes were levied against land, homes and other real estate, slaves, animals, personal items and monetary wealth.

    And you being a Pom and all, I’m surprised that you haven’t heard of the Danegeld:

    In England, a hide was notionally an area of land sufficient to support one family; however their true size and economic value varied enormously. The hide’s purpose was as a unit of assessment and was the basis for the land-tax that became known as Danegeld. Initially it was levied as a tribute to buy off Viking invaders but after the Danish Conquest of 1016 it was retained as a permanent land-tax to pay for the realm’s defence

    As you can see from the above references, taxation was pervasive in Europe long before Christianity existed. But not according to you – the “original European tax [was] demanded by the Pope”. Your bigotry and anti-Semitism have blinded you to facts, sense and reason. Your hate-filled heart has produced this latest fevered outburst, ignoring history so you can bash the Jews and Catlicks. You really can’t get more idiotic than that.

    TB, if you can dial back your racist and religious bigotry you might make more sense and be less prone to rewriting history to suit your irrational prejudices.

  161. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 15, 2022 10:22 am

    If you really wanted to attack vile religious beliefs you cold spare a minute to condemn the human filth that believe that anyone criticises their paedophile prophet deserves to die:

  162. Tom R permalink
    August 15, 2022 11:21 am

    Our previous Parliament really was a joke. And now it looks like a full blown constitutional crisis may unfold

  163. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 15, 2022 11:32 am

    “the cabinet model we’ve had in Australia for well over 100 years”

    Didn’t Whitlam have a two-man cabinet? A duumvirate with Lance Barnard:

    Whitlam was:

    • Prime Minister
    • Leader of the Labor Party
    • Minister for Foreign Affairs
    • Treasurer
    • Attorney-General
    • Minister for Customs and Excise
    • Minister for Trade and Industry
    • Minister for Shipping and Transport
    • Minister for Education and Science
    • Minister for Civil Aviation
    • Minister for Housing
    • Minister for Works
    • Minister for External Territories
    • Minister for the Environment, Aborigines and the Arts

    Barnard:

    • Deputy Prime Minister
    • Deputy Leader of the Labor Party
    • Minister for Defence
    • Minister for Supply
    • Minister for the Army
    • Minister for the Navy
    • Minister for Air
    • Postmaster-General
    • Minister for Labour and National Service
    • Minister for Social Services
    • Minister for Immigration
    • Minister for the Interior
    • Minister for Primary Industry
    • Minister for Repatriation
    • Minister for Health
    • Minister for National Development

  164. Tom R permalink
    August 15, 2022 11:43 am

    Didn’t Whitlam have a two-man cabinet?

    But no Ministry had two ministers (seems impossible to achieve going on some ‘experts’), and it was publicly announced.

    It’s very common for Ministers to hold more than one ministry (yes, Whitlams Was extreme), but it is perfectly legal, in a constitutional sense

  165. Tom R permalink
    August 15, 2022 1:08 pm

  166. August 15, 2022 1:14 pm

    In Australia, for Ministers – there is an Oath of Office :

    I, (name), do swear that I will well and truly serve the people of Australia in the office of (position) and that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Australia. So help me God!

    But perhaps Morrison’s Oath was to an Authority on High? If so, then at least it would align with his stated beliefs.

    Says much about our claims to be a Sovereign Nation.

    Then there’s this from the diplomatic ranks re China and where we fit in:

    The inherent contradictions of the policy of strategic ambiguity have become more stark as the policy has morphed more obviously into blatant duplicity.

    … serves the fundamental US objective of sparking a proxy war between China and Taiwan whilst standing to one side, in assumed innocence, to condemn China’s “unprovoked attack”, just as it has done with Russia and Ukraine.

    Pelosi’s visit was not a blunder by a venal politician shoring up her husband’s extensive questionable business interests in Taiwan. … America is not preparing to launch itself into war from bases in Australia, it is preparing to launch Australia into the American war against China.

    The US has already demonstrated in Ukraine that it will go to great lengths to avoid the risk of direct conflict with a nuclear-armed adversary. … Australia’s alliance with the US and its loyal contributions to the many American misadventures around the world since 1950 have earned it the right to much more than simply following in America’s wake.

    But perhaps Deputy Sheriffs(s) are not there to speak but be spoken to and for. Farcical!

  167. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 15, 2022 1:36 pm

  168. August 15, 2022 1:39 pm

    Re: – love the innocence of philosophy . TB – we are all philosophers of one kind or other and on that there’s much agreement:

    But philosophy is for everyone, and one of the great gifts Pope John Paul II left the Church was a reminder of that.

    We may not be aware of it, but as reasoning human beings, we engage in philosophy every day. … each of us has some standard by which we judge whether a statement is true or false — this is epistemology. Each of us has some standard by which we judge whether an action is right or wrong — this is moral philosophy. Each of us has some standard to distinguish mere appearance from reality — this is metaphysics. </blockquote

    If you do not like the 'religious' view, then there's a similar one from a well-known Marxist, Antonio Gramsci whose writings – From the Prison Notebooks is much cited.

    Each man, finally, outside his professional activity, carries on some form of intellectual activity, that is, he is a “philosopher”, an artist, a man of taste, he participates in a particular conception of the world, has a conscious line of moral conduct, and therefore contributes to sustain a conception of the world …

    Thus philosphising is part of everyday life.

  169. Tom R permalink
    August 15, 2022 1:41 pm

    lol,
    Straya – Constitutional Crisis

    Splats – Look. Over There, ‘merica is having a wardrobe malfunction

  170. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 15, 2022 1:45 pm

  171. August 15, 2022 1:53 pm

    Can’t understand that why Republicans decry institution authorities they’ve created, they can’t see the irony in thanking their God.

  172. TB Queensland permalink
    August 15, 2022 2:01 pm

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/taxation

    Sources here, sources there, ’tis simple now to find ’em everywhere … )

    Oh, hum … insults … never enhance a “scholarly” rant …

  173. TB Queensland permalink
    August 15, 2022 2:03 pm

    Re: – “love the innocence of philosophy” . TB – we are all philosophers of one kind or other and on that there’s much agreement:

    Thus philosphising is part of everyday life.

    Can’t disagree with any of that … 😎

  174. August 15, 2022 2:06 pm

    Can’t understand that while Republicans decry institution authorities they’ve created, they can’t see the irony in thanking their God.

  175. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 15, 2022 2:11 pm

    “Sources here, sources there, ’tis simple now to find ’em everywhere … )”

    Shame you didn’t read your own source before putting it about that “the original European tax (demanded by the Pope!) was for England and France to wage war in Palestine”. Your link makes perfectly clear that your statement was wrong. It lists plenty of taxes imposed before “the original European tax”.

    Why can’t you just admit that you got that one wrong? Everyone makes mistakes. The stupid among us can’t ever bring themselves to admit it. Which is why they never learn.

  176. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 15, 2022 2:14 pm

    Look. Over There, ‘merica is having a wardrobe malfunction

  177. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 15, 2022 2:18 pm

    “Straya – Constitutional Crisis”

    Is it really? The crisis is over. Morrison, the prize idiot, has been booted. His catalogue of idiocy and impropriety will no doubt grow as we look into his conduct. I still have hope that Albo may be an improvement.

  178. Tom R permalink
    August 15, 2022 2:19 pm

    🙂

  179. Tom R permalink
    August 15, 2022 2:23 pm

    The crisis is over.

    For morrison, it’s just beginning. He has ‘Questions to Answer”

    Like, is this the reason he protected the alleged rapist from scrutiny?

    Is this why he protected alleged rapes within a stones throw of his office?

    Is this why no-one order vaccines, because each thought the other was ordering

    And does this mean that anything associated with any of those Ministries is now legally questionable?

  180. Tom R permalink
    August 15, 2022 2:24 pm

  181. August 15, 2022 4:48 pm

    While there is no obvious constitutional crisis, the ‘political’ waves will probably be short lived as well. More significant, and of longer term politically, will be Josh Butler and Sarah Martin’s naming the Albo’s department secretary as Glyn Davies when his correct name is Glyn Davis.

    No future ‘drops’ for that pair. Lol.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/aug/15/anthony-albanese-seeks-legal-advice-over-reports-scott-morrison-secretly-swore-himself-into-ministry-roles

  182. August 15, 2022 6:29 pm

    Much ado re Constitutional matters on tonight’s The Drum. But one wonders how many politicians have actually read the Australian Constitution let alone understand same. And remember, for the average punter, ‘Ignorance of the Law’ is never an excuse.

    Then again – politicians are there to MAKE the law, not to UNDERSTAND it and certainly not there to OBEY it.

    And back to Morrison and his directive to public servants – Your role is NOT to provide advice but to implement government policy.

    Be interested to see how Glyn Davis can change that nonsense.

  183. TB Queensland permalink
    August 15, 2022 6:36 pm

    Why can’t you just admit that you got that one wrong?

    Yes you’re right

  184. TB Queensland permalink
    August 15, 2022 6:42 pm

    I see the Deep South is in more trouble that the Shallow North …

    Just where is Lord ToM holidaying? ahhh the libraries are open … I admire self learing … (whoo -ps- ) 😎

  185. TB Queensland permalink
    August 15, 2022 6:46 pm

    Dutton says he was not aware of Morrison’s secret ministries

    Scrabble, scrabble … 🙄

  186. TB Queensland permalink
    August 15, 2022 7:11 pm

    And from our Entertainment Department:

    We watched – “13 Lives” – last night directed by Ron Howard, and what brilliant directing (as usual) …

    ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ — ⭐

  187. August 15, 2022 7:12 pm

    So Morrison had no confidence in Pitt? Who could blame him for that?

    Effectively, Morrison had no say in the matter because Pitt was Barnaby’s choice under the agreement he had with the Nats. And Pitt’s party vote was essential in Barnaby’s re-election as Leader.

  188. Tom R permalink
    August 15, 2022 7:37 pm

    Yes you’re right

    🙂

  189. August 15, 2022 7:48 pm

    To-night’s unrealizable but ideal dream for Morrison:

    “FUCK THAT – I’M OFF TO NEW YORK!”

  190. August 15, 2022 10:05 pm

    Is the much lauded ‘representative democracy’ the best form of government we can devise? You know – where a person who thinks that 2 + 2 = 5 is afforded the same voting ‘power’ as … (Take your pick)

    And they do. The result is Pauline Hanson who thinks – there’s old mathematics and then there’s new mathematics (old school).

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