AFL Grand Final Preview with Tom of Melbourne!

Tom of Melbourne brings us his exclusive take on the Grand Final 2022…!
Has there ever been a more self centred, attention seeking organisation than the British Royal Family?
Now they’re determined to disrupt our annual football festival.
Just when the attention of the entire civilised world is returning its focus to Melbourne, again hosting the AFL Grand Final, Queen Elizabeth dies. And without even considering all the scheduling disruption!
Families had already organised their drinking games for the Brownlow Medal count. But all this had to hastily change when the Royal Family organised the funeral at the very same time.
Dozens of blonde lasses had to reschedule their spray tans and pick up early the double-sided tape to hold their frocks together.
Even the public holiday (to mourn) is the day before our day off to celebrate Australia’s greatest cultural gift to the world!
In the actual game, it is Geelong (representing the landed gentry demographic) versus Sydney (representing the Oxford Street demographic).
Sydney to win by 3 goals!
Tom of Melbourne brings us his exclusive take on the Grand Final 2022…!
Does, Lord Tom, know? 😉
Has there ever been a more self-centred, attention seeking organisation than the British Royal Family?
I’m surprised Lord ToM doesn’t recognise a perpetual marketing plan, being the local self proclaimed business guru (although he probably sees marketing as a middle management role).
Just when the attention of the entire civilised world is returning its focus to Melbourne
Sydney and Perth are not … “the entire civilised world” … in fact they’re not even fkn civilised!
As for Aerial Ping Pong! Well, duh!
(One of your best posts, reb, ToM should write more) 😎
It’s all YoM’s handiwork.
I’m grieving quietly at home today, curtains drawn, in solemn mourning and thankful prayer for our late Sovereign lady, Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.
🤢🤬🤢🤡🤡🤡
Speaking of Elizabeth’s Wake and Rumble …
Queen Margrethe II of Denmark and Crown Prince Frederik both tested positive for C19.
How many more will pop up … might be some open spots for new puppets.
SirDuke reb of MelbourneSirDuke TB of BrisbaneMadame Tom R of (King) Adelaide
lol
I’m on the record as having made plenty of disparaging remarks about Trump.
But I’m not sure I’ve previously posted my theory- “Having an irrational narcissist in the Whitehouse may promote restraint in the ambitions of expansionist fascists”
* If a US leader is rational, an expansionist fascist (such as Putin) can predict the likely responses. There will be a broad menu of choices and escalations. Advisors and experts can wargame all the options. Each can be analysed and a response planned
* If a US leader is an irrational narcissist, the expansionist fascist and advisors are unable to make an informed prediction about the likely response. The response will depend on whether (Trump) took the invasion/military operation as a personal slight, whether he feels like he’s being made to look foolish and how all the conspiracy theorists see it. His response will depend on how he sees it effecting him personally. His response will range from “do nothing” to “go nuclear”
The unpredictability causes uncertainty.
Therefore it’s entirely likely that having a narcissist nutcase in the Whitehouse is a handbrake on expansionist fascists
Don’t care who wins but I wouldn’t mind if some of the smugness got wiped off Chris Scott’s face.
Therefore it’s entirely likely that having a narcissist nutcase in the Whitehouse is a handbrake on expansionist fascists
Or fucking dangerously stupid!
I am watching the cricket on Kayo. I am not interested in aussie rules. Apparently my team is playing- Sydney
I hope Geelong wins
Therefore it’s entirely likely that having a narcissist nutcase in the Whitehouse is a handbrake on expansionist fascists
OR, and, hear me out, having a nutjob who is happy to give away American military to the Russians, and who knows what else after the revelations from the CIA raid, why not just build your power and asset base while the fool is there, and unleash it after?
OR, and, hear me out, having a nutjob who is happy to give away American military to the Russians,
Isn’t that what I wrote, TR?
I think there’s something to be said for complete unpredictability.
It can’t be managed or planned.
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LOL! @ reb!
BTW, where’s Coburg? Germany?
I think there’s something to be said for complete unpredictability.
Wyrd Bið Ful Aræd: Fate is Inexorable
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There was footy on the weekend?
Some positive news for the longsuffering NDIS
l noticed three weeks in, and underwhelmy had already triggered repug noises to start eroding the tribal voice to clowntown. Now that Liz is gone and charlie’s in, (the highest profile greenist ever) the bandt-greenists are making anti-charlie repug noises too. None of which was what last election was about.`
I see the libs are being as terrible as they can be. Typical
Suspect that a CDC (of sorts) will remain for years to come. Certainly, there’s lots of kids who share that hope.
For adults (without dependents) who want to ‘piss it all up a wall’, then feel free. Provided of course, they’re not harming others, broadly defined.
I see reports about the mass shooting at a Russian school.
Dreadful, but most people don’t realise that Russia has a higher homicide rate than the US.
A higher suicide rate too.
Putin is such a success
Did you know that the U.S. has 4% of the world’s population but recorded 25% of global Covid deaths? And it now has 35% of all Monkeypox cases.
Did you know that Covid finished off 1.04 million Americans, the highest toll of any nation. It is the Exceptional Empire. The U.S. population clocks in at 330 million.
The U.S. is a public health fiasco.
Compare that to China’s 5200 Covid deaths out of a population of 1.4 billion. Further the average life span of Chinese citizens now exceeds that of American citizens.
Which country took this lethal virus seriously enough to protect its citizens? Hint, not the capitalist behemoth, with patients intubated from sea to shining sea?
Did you know that the USA Empire spends 3.5% of its GDP on “Defense” even though it hasn’t had to “defend” any of its territory since … Perhaps it isn’t about ‘Defense’ after all?
And then it causes Australia (possibly its most compliant Vassal) to spend something like $160 billion on submarines that are likely to be obsolete before reaching service.
Note that the USA and Australian Citizens are not consulted about such matters.
Ain’t “democracy” wonderful? Lol.
I think you’ll find that covid deaths in the US and Russia are about the same rate.
But congratulations on a meaningless diatribe
And I think you might also find that Russia spends a greater percentage of its GDP in the military
Russia spends a greater percentage of its GDP in the military…
Obviously not on its military …
And, the USofA has dragged Australia in to all of its failed wars against non-christians … Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan … ain’t religous wars wonderful for the soul! 🤑
Good news from Parliament for once
And
Have you seen the way the Russian orthodox church runs the public relations campaign for Putin?
Who could have foreseen the optus thing coming.
Step 1, allow private companies to harvest as much personal data as they want
Step 2, don’t make them protect it
They all catch up eventually, TR
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… the way the Russian orthodox church runs the public relations campaign … ?
Point being, ToM?
You referred to religious wars
Ahhhh! So Russia and the USA are the same?
So no chance of conflict? *
Which country is most likely to use nuclear weapons in the near future?
Which country uses the state church as it’s military recruitment office?
Which country is most likely to use nuclear weapons in the near future?
Who knows, maybe Russia, maybe USA (who has a track record?)
Which country uses the state church as it’s military recruitment office?
That’d be the USA from where I’m sitting..
Raises the issue of whether the “religious” should make political statements or not. And if they do, will the MSM refer to same if they raise “embarrassing” questions?
Wonder how many have read or viewed the Pope and his views on significant “moral” questions.
Note that like those of a religious orientation, he comes (begins) from a “deontological” perspective (emphasis on ‘intentions’) but also considers the ‘consequences’ of those ‘intentions’ (teleological considerations).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarch_Kirill_of_Moscow
Those who have been following the issue would know that the Russian Orthodox Church is now split. A Schism – on political affiliation(s).
Some members have left and joined the Greek Orthodox (in Ukraine). Many in the Donbass have remained with the Russian Orthodox (explains in part – but only in part – the overwhelming support for joining the Russian Federation.) Most, however, elected to join the breakaway Ukraine Orthodox Church.
Not for the first time has a Schism broken out. In 1054, there was the Great Schism which saw the (Roman) Catholics lost control over the Orthodox based on theological and political considerations.
Russia is a very religious Nation and the Communists had to accommodate that.
And here’s the “objective” reality.
Ukraine is not an Elephant! (But who really knows what the future holds?)
And now for something completely different ….
Another research project to reveal something most of us knew …
This is hilarious:
Yet, the narrative being promoted is that Russia destroyed its own pipelines.
And that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was unprovoked.
In the mass media you’re not allowed to talk about the known US/NATO/Ukraine actions which experts have been warning for many years would lead us to where we’re at. You’re only allowed to say Putin attacked Ukraine completely unprovoked , in a vacuum, solely because he is evil and hates freedom. And you have to do it while saying the word “unprovoked” at every opportunity.
(Doesn’t excuse the Russian invasion. But gives it context.)
Agreed, MN. Also, it appears the US has form in b lowing up Russian pipelines.
Re:
That’s a “positive” for the USA. Almost impossible to keep things under wraps for too long. Much “history” still to be disclosed.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957
So cool:
(Doesn’t excuse the Russian invasion. But gives it context.)
Glad you said that … some folk don’t get it … nor that propaganda is a two way street … and as above!
So cool: tru dat! And Italiano too! Scooter person quick! 😎
Yeah, “provoked”, because
* Former Russian colonies didn’t want to return to being colonies
* The Ukraine parliament voted unanimously to oust Yanukovych after he tried to join the Russian trade zone in 2014, when parliament had already established a process for joining the EU
* Every former Warsaw Pact country now opposes Putin’s regime, and Ukraine prefered the company of that fraternity
“Provoked” is the refuge of apologists for the fascist Putin…and wife beaters
That’s the company you keep
ToM – who doesn’t (or can’t) read links. Lol.
Perhaps one might get a response/reaction to this:
So who gave the “warnings”?
Pat Buchanan (1999) pointed out : By moving NATO onto Russia’s front porch, we have scheduled a twenty-first-century confrontation.”
Then there was Kissinger who warned:
Was Kissinger an “apologist” too?
Then there was Mearsheimer from the USA who warned in 2015:
And then there was Jack F. Matlock Jr., US Ambassador to the Soviet Union from 1987-1991, and, and – so let’s cite Stephen Cohen who pointed out “if we move NATO forces toward Russia’s borders […] it’s obviously gonna militarize the situation [and] Russia will not back off, this is existential”
Think it’s fair to say there has rarely been a conflict that so many strategic thinkers from the other camp saw coming and warned against for so many years, yet had their advice ignored.
Then there’s Tom from Melbourne who used to work for Qantas but can’t provide any links or historical perspective.
Enough!
Will finish with an advice:
But it will fall on deaf ears. Sadly!
1. Is Putin so stupid that he was “provoked” into a war he didn’t want?
2. Are you such a sycophant that you’re unable to explain exactly what the “provocation” is? All you do is provide a list of those you agree with. Not any rationale
Putin may well have wanted to seize Ukrainian territory. The US and NATO gave him an excuse to do so.
Then there is this: Western allies led by UK’s Johnson sabotaged tentative Ukraine-Russia peace deal
At the moment the West senses the opportunity to weaken Russia. Hence the Nord Stream 2 pipeline explosion, as promised by Biden.
1. All year, every visit to Ukraine by a leader has been unannounced. It is a little disingenuous of the article to suggest that a surprise visit is unusual.
2. Putin denied any plan to invade until he invaded. Since then the rhetoric has increased its provocation . There has never been any indication by Russia of a willingness to compromise.
3. If Zelensky was looking for a support not to surrender, it’s hardly unreasonable that he was provided with this.
4. Ukraine shows a willingness to continue to defend itself against an invasion. Is that a problem?
All year, every visit to Ukraine by a leader has been unannounced.
For a very good reason … there’s a war in Ukraine! … a surprise visit is unusual … not during a war … did you work for Optus? Seems “thinking” past yesterday is a bit of a problem for you …
4. Ukraine shows a willingness to continue to defend itself against an invasion. Is that a problem?
Why would it be a problem? You’ve got preparations in place in case China bobs up in islands around the Australian coastline and Darwin, haven’t you? Y’know, transport, clothes, water, food, power, lights, fire kit, temporary shelter, weapons? 👽
Is Mar-a-Lago still standing? What about the owner … ?
(sic)
Nah, still standing, still as “empathetic” (pathetic?) as always … christian hypocrisy writ large …
Long Live the Enablers!
I had to visit the Doctor this week. For the first time the Doctor did not bulk bill. So i had to pay. The bill was for $73. I got a $40 rebate so i had to pay $33.
I think it could be a good idea that you have to pay something when you visit the Doctor. Apparently more Doctors are not bulk billing anymore.
So pleased for you, Kneel …
lt is quite funny seeing the in-house kooyong calling gorby, kissinger, etc ‘sycophant’ while ignoring the nato chook shed took the 14 sleepwalk steps to russia/ crimea, and theRealdeal took the 15th step in 2013?/ 2014?/ mh17 remember. Then huffs’n puffs about theRonald in same blather. Newsflash, theRonald wasn’t even ‘running’ for 2016 when it started in crimea.`
Those in kooyong that ‘true-believer’ teabag recite, anti-ruski/ anti-panda and yankeeland arselick are still knot watching the main game. Giving global cooling near 3/4rs of a century head start aint a winner for anybody. Some years ago l dropped a link here on thePanda building 400-ish coalburners around the planet. ln 2021 350-ish of them were meant to be finished. The two or-3 dozen stragglers are due by 2026. Plopped on a coal quarry to chug away for decades. Now, the euro-trash have a gasline spewing out methane. The food shortage/ emergency has begun. The world as a whole is still sleepwalking into another ‘vietnam’-like quagmire of its own making. Those that swoon for any of the so-called global leaders are sure to be disappointed. l-promise. As the vast majority of them are pretty crap.`
For those who proceed on the childish belief that this “issue” began yesterday and not decades ago. So an article by Jeffrey SACHS.
“Since Russia views its vital security interests to be at stake in the current conflict, the war in Ukraine is rapidly escalating to a nuclear showdown. It’s urgent for both the US and Russia to exercise restraint before disaster hits.”
https://johnmenadue.com/the-great-game-in-ukraine-is-spinning-out-of-control/
Actually it’s Russia that has to exercise restraint. No one else is threatening to use nuclear weapons
Historically, it’s only the USA that has used nuclear weapons. Not once, but twice. There they stand alone.
Do we judge by (last resort) threats or by historical actions?
Was always against USA/NATO eastern expansion, particularly given any number of promises not to do just that. Was also against ‘arming’ a divided Ukraine because of long term consequences. Simplistic actions in a complex world.
(Yes Ukraine is/was a divided nation based in part on ‘religion’, ‘ethnicity’ and now particularly ‘language’ and its use and non-use in certain crucial areas of daily life.. Yes most of the population ‘looks’ to the west but there’s a significant group whose loyalties are to Russia. The NATO issue – Putin’s ‘redline’ has caused further divisions.)
Already the USA Republicans are making noises about NOT funding further military aid to Ukraine and they are likely to make significant gains in the coming mid-terms. Then there’s unrest in the EU (try Poland and Hungary) – with a cold winter coming. The chances of back-sliding on sanctions are increasing. (Might explain why the ‘pipelines’ were put out of action.)
So who is going to support (a partitioned) Ukraine in the longer term? When (or if) its “usefulness” exits centre stage? Does the USA remember who assisted them? They didn’t in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan? Who is going to rebuild Ukraine? etc, etc.
As I pointed out some time ago, sound moral decisions (rarely made by empires) should go beyond “intentions” and consider “outcomes” or “consequences”.
Was watching a TV show and a segment on Alexander the Great (“Museum Mysteries” from memory) and how the “barbarians” all attacked Macedonia when he succeeded his father at age 20, his enemies thought he was young and weak (poor judgement as it turned out).
My point is, that its a bit like Putin deciding to attack Ukraine, when a new young, “learner” president has recently been elected – must be weak(?) … moreover that president was new to the job of politics, having been a well known comedian and entertainer … how could Russia lose?
History rhymes and Zelenskyy has risen to the challenge!
1. The events of 80 years ago, at the end of WW2 have little relevance to their use today
2. Got some evidence about NATO not expanding? Various US presidents have denied that. It’s expansion is specifically related to the anxiety of former Warsaw Pact countries/colonies.
3. Putin has shown brutality, arrogance and poor judgement throughout this war. But you were advocating the surrender if Ukraine when it started
4. It is just as plausible that Russia is losing its appetite for war
Plenty of ‘evidence’ available from those who are ‘experts’ in the area.
(I’m certainly NOT an ‘expert’ and never claimed to be. That would be ridiculous in the extreme.)
The problem seems to be that it isn’t being read or viewed. Perhaps the articles are too long? So here’s a brief one from an acknowledged expert. Google him for verification.
And a longer much more detailed article(s) from an ex-insider.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/09/22/scott-ritter-reaping-the-whirlwind/
The “evidence” I’ve seen about a commitment to non expansion was an alleged comment by Helmut Kohl when Germany was reunified.
But this has been debunked by other leaders and US presidents.
ToM – you don’t participate in “good faith”. You are presenting yourself as an “expert”. No links. Just claims. So I’ll remedy that with a source (because I wasn’t there). I have no other way of ‘knowing’.
https://original.antiwar.com/scott/2022/03/02/the-history-behind-the-russia-ukraine-war/
There’s just one link among the many that are available.
You’ll find that Bush denied approving that and Baker said he went to far. That’s a reason that none of it was contained in the final protocol
Have you experienced negotiation, where a range of possibilities are explored? It is the final agreement that applies, not every point that arises during the negotiation.
Did you also notice that just a matter of months ago, Putin repeatedly denied that he would invade Ukraine?
And by the way, a political leader can make a verbal commitment that applies to the policies for the course of their tenure.
Do you think private, unwritten, verbal commitments lock in the policy options for their successors?
No politician or leader would accept this.
And all the other world Leaders listed above additional to Bush? Did they go too far as well?
Hilarious. Again no links to support.
And those records in the various archives (as listed above)? They all got it wrong as well?
For those who might be interested in the USA’s war history since the end of the Cold War. (Guess what – their aggression has intensified as evidenced via the documented incidents.)
Does a private, unwritten, verbal communication bind succeeding governments for decades?
So you’re conceding that the promise was made? And it was recorded (now in written archives in the USA and Britain)?
Again there is a mountain of evidence re personal mala fides.
Or are you the world’s fastest reader?
(Again stressing the personal view that Putin should not have invaded BUT he was “provoked”.)
(Did you know that Putin just had his bi-weekly “heart attack” as reported in the MSM and that …. the Nord Pipelines were destroyed by Russia which preferred to blow them up and not simply turn off the taps.
Gees those Russians are stupid aren’t they?)
It is disputed
But tell me, how does a private, non binding, unwritten, verbal statement bind a future government
Is a future US president required to observe any verbal statement Trump might have made?
Love this timeline.
And so it goes. The USA is a peace loving Nation. But only 2 years of peace since the end of WW II – 1952 and 1974. Only 16 years in its existence have the guns been silent.
Can’t understand why these other Nations keep wanting to attack the American Empire. Or maybe, it’s the other way around.
Yeah, as I’ve said, if only the US wasn’t a superpower,then Putin and Xi could carve up their spheres of influence between them. People like you would be delighted
Ya don’t get it ToM … we invaded, Korea, we invaded, Vietnam, we invaded, Iraq, we invaded Afghanistan … and I’m beginning to think we “invaded”, Timor-Leste (for gas) under the well trod, USofA guise, of “helping” the “people” …
Having said that … it irks me that the world is “controlled and manipulated” by half a dozen ego driven power hungry maniacs … in every country I have ever visited (almost 40) all the “people” I’ve met and talked to have wanted the same thing … a peaceful existence, education, health services, gainful employment, and a happy, successful family.
All governments … use their people for their gain … ALL including our own!
The USofA is a not bunch of world saving christian crusaders … its just another defence force used as an assault force …
It gets awkward when the aggressive nation is (supposedly) christian and the defensive nation is also christian … orthodox this and orthodox that …
Now think of the other nations that the USofA (with our help) invaded – Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan … their religion? Or not?
With your masterful observation and analytical skills, coupled with even a bit of comprehension … you may notice that the West is not as squeaky clean as you seem to imagine.
Pity because I prefer the “West” to any alternative … just a bit less of The Wild West!
Where are we buying nuclear subs from again?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1677239/nuclear-submarine-trident-defence-system-out-of-action
In days of yore, vassals paid tributes in gold and silver. Now they contract to buy submarines and other weapons of war that fit seamlessly into the Empire’s war machine.
And yet it’s called maintaining our sovereignty. Oh how we laugh.
Yeah, because nations with similar systems of government and similar security and institutional interests shouldn’t act as any form of collective or with any sense of preservation of those common interests
Oh how we laugh. Chuckle! 😶
“Nothing is new!” Aish,
Tour guide, Egypt – 1997
You must know your strengths AND weaknesses before you can understand yourself … that goes for your country too!