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The Catholic Church is The Real Death Cult

May 21, 2015

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The Catholic filth are back in the headlines this week with new allegations of rampant and heinous child sex abuse taking place within its institutions on an unprecedented scale.

The Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse is this week holding public hearings in Ballarat to examine historical abuse suffered by children at a number of schools in the area.

A number of victims have come forward to reveal harrowing accounts of abuse perpetrated by the Catholic clergy and other members of the Church.

It’s been confirmed that some of Australia’s most notorious child sex abusers, including Gerald Ridsdale, Robert Best and Edward Dowlan, were part of a paedophile ring operating in and around Ballarat for many years.

In her opening address, Senior Counsel Assisting the Commission, Gail Furness SC, outlined the extent of Ridsdale’s offending.

She said the inquiry would hear evidence of Ridsdale’s time at the Mortlake parish during the early 1980s, including comments from the priest who took over from Ridsdale.

“EVERY MALE CHILD ABUSED”

“Father Dennehy told the Catholic Church’s insurance investigator that he thought every male child between the ages of 10 years and 16 years, who were at the school, had been molested by Ridsdale,” she said.

Ms Furness said Ridsdale was a “prolific offender” during his time at Mortlake.

She also told the inquiry Cardinal George Pell – who later became Archbishop of Sydney and now oversees the Vatican’s finances – was one of seven present at a meeting in September 1982 where Bishop Ronald Mulkearns discussed the need to remove Ridsdale from the school.

She said under the heading of “staff” the notes from that meeting read:

The Bishop advised that it had become necessary for Father Gerald Risdale to move from the Parish of Mortlake.

Negotiations are under way to have him work with the Catholic Enquiry Centre in Sydney.

A new appointment to Mortlake will be necessary to take effect after October 17th.

The minutes did not disclose whether the Bishop said why the move was necessary, she told the inquiry.

“However … it is expected that there will be evidence that Bishop Mulkearns knew it was because Risdale had abused boys in Mortlake and that he had offended in this manner in 1975,” she said.

ALL MALE TEACHERS AT ST ALIPIUS PRIMARY SCHOOL MOLESTED CHILDREN

All male teachers and the chaplain at the St Alipius primary school were molesting children

All male teachers and the chaplain at the St Alipius primary school were molesting children

Ballarat was one of the most horrific sites of abuse and it was revealed that in 1971, all male teachers and the chaplain at the St Alipius primary school were molesting children.

Ms Furness said the royal commission would also hear from a survivor who had a photograph of his grade four class at St Alipius in the 1970s.

She said he would tell the hearing, of the 33 boys pictured, 12 had committed suicide.

Philip Nagle (circled) claims 12 out of the 33 of pupils in the photograph went on to commit suicide because of the sexual abuse that took place at the school.

Philip Nagle (circled) claims 12 out of the 33 of pupils in the photograph went on to commit suicide because of the sexual abuse that took place at the school.

In his opening address, inquiry chairman Justice Peter McClellan urged those attending the hearing to remember the victims and survivors.

“The evidence in the first stage of this hearing will include the personal stories of a number of survivors,” Justice McClellan said.

“That evidence will describe the gross violations of individuals by ordained members of the Catholic Church.

“As you are aware, the royal commission has revealed many shocking stories of the betrayal of children.

“As we listen to the evidence in this hearing, we should all reflect on the impact for those who have suffered in the Ballarat region, and the thousands of others who have suffered throughout Australia.”

“There will be evidence that his behaviour around boys was no secret,” she said.

Paedophile Pall George Pell denies all allegations of a cover up

Paedophile Pal George Pell denies all allegations of a cover up

GEORGE PELL TRIED TO BRIBE VICTIM OF ABUSE TO KEEP QUIET

David Ridsdale, the nephew of Australia’s worst pedophile priest, said he told Cardinal Pell in 1993 about the abuse at the hands of his uncle. He told the royal commission that Cardinal Pell, a family friend, asked him in a phone call: “I want to know what it will take to keep you quiet.”

Mr Ridsdale said Cardinal Pell started talking about his growing family and that he may soon have to buy a car or house.

He said his response was “f… you George and everything you stand for”.

After he hung up, Mr Ridsdale said he told his sisters about their phone conversation.

“I remember saying to both my sisters: ‘the bastard just tried to bribe me’,” Mr Ridsdale told the royal commission hearing in Ballarat.

“I have never stated that Pell offered me anything specific or tangible in our conversation, only that his attempts to direct the conversation down a particular path made me extremely suspicious of his motivations and what he was insinuating.”

Cardinal Pell has previously denied Mr Ridsdale’s claims of bribery.

In a statutory declaration made in 2002, when David Ridsdale first spoke of his call to Pell, the then Archbishop of Sydney said he recalled the conversation.

“Although I do not recall the precise date of the telephone call, I recall that it was while I was an Auxiliary Bishop of Melbourne and that it was around the time of police action against Gerald Ridsdale.

To the best of my recollection the call took place early in 1993,” he said.

“He told me that he had been abused by his uncle. He also told me of financial difficulties that he, his wife and children were experiencing.

“I felt sorry for David and would have been keen to help him if I could. However, there was no basis upon which I could have provided him with any significant financial assistance.

“In my telephone conversation with David, there was no mention made of David going to the police. I did not consider his call or the conversation to be threatening in any way. David did not make any threats and did not swear at me.

“It was alleged that I said to David words to the effect “What will it take to keep you quiet?” I emphatically deny having said these words or any words to that effect.

“I emphatically and totally deny the allegation that I made any attempt to buy David’s silence.”

Pell also denied he offered to buy David a house or a car.

“I DON’T RECALLL”

Contradictory statements…Cardinal Pell said in 2002:

“At a distance of 28 years, I have no recollection of any such conversation. If I was approached and thought the stories plausible I would have informed the Christian Brothers.”

“DON’T BE RIDICULOUS”

One victim says he told Cardinal Pell about boys being abused at a Victorian Catholic school but that he told him not to be “ridiculous and walked off’’.

Giving evidence at the commission, Timothy Green, 53, said that he told then Father Pell in 1974 that something had to be done about Christian Brother Edward Dowlan touching boys at St Patrick’s College.

“I said Brother Dowlan is touching little boys,” Mr Green told the commission. “Father Pell said ‘don’t be ridiculous’ and walked out.”

Mr Green, who said he was 12 or 13 when he told Cardinal Pell, was himself a victim of Dowlan. “Father Pell didn’t ask any questions. He didn’t say what do you mean or how could you say that.

“He just dismissed it and walked out. His reaction gave me the impression that he knew about Brother Dowlan but couldn’t or wouldn’t do anything about it.”

Cardinal Pell is a former Archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney and is currently a senior figure at the Vatican in Rome where he is Prefect of the Secretariat for the Economy.

Cardinal Pell is also expected to be asked to provide a statement to the Royal Commission about Mr Green’s claim. Cardinal Pell has previously denied Mr Green’s account when it was made at the trial of Brother Dowlan.

PAEDOPHILE PAL GEORGE PELL SHARED HOME WITH GERALD RIDSDALE

Cardinal Pell, who supported Ridsdale at his first court appearance on child sex offences in 1993, shared the St Alipius’ presbytery home with Ridsdale in 1973.

He has faced criticism for offering support to priests facing accusations of abuse rather than offering support to the victims of their actions.

It’s about time that these Catholic scum face the full force of justice and be held to account for their heinous crimes.

117 Comments leave one →
  1. May 21, 2015 9:34 am
  2. May 21, 2015 10:00 am

    Jesus Wept…Its obvious that Pell was complicent.. he’s a fucking liar.. lots of silencing deals were done.. I know for a fact that there are quite a few private educations were facilitated as part of settlements…. (my ex girlfriends kid.. her brother was abused and eventually killed himself)
    Its a wonder this Tyke cockwobble dont spontaiously combust the dirty old Pedo protecting prick.
    Just like Abboott writing a reference for his convicted pedo mate from the gong …

  3. Tom R permalink
    May 21, 2015 10:04 am

    I’ve lived in filth I’ve lived in sin
    And I still smell cleaner than the shit you’re in

  4. TB Queensland permalink
    May 21, 2015 10:18 am

    What can I say … 😦

    I suggest Pell have his passport revoked and he is never to set foot in Australia again … these pricks are no better than terrorists of children …

  5. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 21, 2015 10:33 am

    The church must be sued until it is bankrupted, the damage done to people is just too horrific.

    What of all the organisations that have protected the churches all along though? Government depts and police etc, those who refused to take action when they should have, I hope the RC reports the lack of protection by the community to these kids. All I can think of is how alone, hurt, unsafe and unloved those kids must have felt.

    Now pell is safe in rome, never to face his accusers. He appears to have operated on the “tell me nothing that I won’t want to hear” principle, if he accidentally got told something that he couldn’t avoid, he just walked away, certainly complicit by doing nothing.

    Why in all that is decent do we still have forced taxpayer funding of religion? get them all off the taxpayer teat and treat them like every other business.

  6. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 21, 2015 10:55 am

  7. May 21, 2015 10:57 am
  8. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 21, 2015 11:19 am

    “this is your fault”

    Charming and compassionate

  9. May 21, 2015 11:21 am

    How any self-professed “catholick” can continue to be a catholick after reading about Ballarat alone,is beyond my understanding.These people should be locked up in psychiatric prisons.

  10. TB Queensland permalink
    May 21, 2015 12:08 pm

    certainly complicit by doing nothing.

    Indeed, KL, under Common Law principles … “acts and omissions” are equally challengeable …

    Charming and compassionate

    Hypocrites ALL!

    And then take the high moral ground with those who do not “believe” … how could anyone who isn’t a member of the social networking system of organised kiddie fiddling religion possibly know right from wrong?

    Absofknlutely fkn astounding!

    Gives a whole new meaning to “suffer the little children to come unto me” … that crucifix must be doing 1000rpm!

  11. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 21, 2015 12:23 pm

    What a beautiful scam it’s been.
    Make a religion, make males the unchallengeable keepers and controllers of it [and through it, all society] give men the authority and dominance over women and children.
    Make yourselves the representatives of your ‘god’ on earth, .
    Have more power over the population than any other established organisation including the lawmakers of the land [vatican is it’s own state]

    Untouchable and unaccountable.

  12. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 21, 2015 12:34 pm

    …I suggest Pell have his passport revoked and he is never to set foot in Australia again … these pricks are no better than terrorists of children …

    I think that was always the intention TB. The safety and protection of the catholic state from where he will never return. He ran from any mortal justice.

    THE PRINCE: Faith, abuse and George Pell [David Marr]
    https://www.quarterlyessay.com/essay/2013/09/the-prince/extract

  13. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 21, 2015 12:48 pm

    I would like to share with you all a helpful regime for the flu season [you should still have the flu jab]

    Some vitamins and minerals have anti viral properties.

    This reduces the length and severity of colds and flu.

    Take Blackmores ZinvitC250 as soon as you feel the symptoms, there is a product just called Zinvit or simlar, it is NOT that one.

    Day 1 – take 1 tablet, 3 x day
    Day 2 – 1 tablet 2 x day
    Day 3 – 1 tablet only

    With food, as it can make you feel a bit sick on an empty stomach.

    This comes from a respiratory consultant. I’ve followed it myself for a few years now and I swear it works for me.

    You’re welcome 🙂

  14. May 21, 2015 12:48 pm

    LAWYERS for Cardinal George Pell have sent a letter indicating they may cross-examine witnesses giving testimony at the Royal Commission.

    http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/3093918/royal-commission-responds-to-pell-statement/?cs=61

  15. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 21, 2015 1:04 pm

    Thanks AO, but I enjoy turning up to work and coughing over people, then having a bottle of shiraz of an evening to kill the germs. I don’t think I’ll change my routine

  16. TB Queensland permalink
    May 21, 2015 1:58 pm

    Thanks, KL, son-in-law in bed right now … will pass that on!

    We too a re “fans” of the flu jab! (Done before our trip!)

  17. May 21, 2015 2:14 pm

    Pell’s denials of wrongdoing at the child abuse royal commission are a defence by media release – not testimony …

    http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/05/21/pell-must-face-abuse-commission-victims

  18. May 21, 2015 2:58 pm

    Christian Brother called 12yo boy ‘evil’ as he abused him…

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-21/paedophile-priest-called-boy-evil-as-he-abused-him/6487146

  19. armchair opionator permalink
    May 21, 2015 3:22 pm

    “…Thanks AO, but I enjoy turning up to work and coughing over people, then having a bottle of shiraz of an evening to kill the germs…”

    😆

  20. May 21, 2015 3:24 pm

    I’ve always found red wine to be an effective “cure all” for most of life’s ails…

  21. May 21, 2015 3:24 pm
  22. TB Queensland permalink
    May 21, 2015 3:54 pm

    sreb, that must be one of the longest blogs you’ve ever posted!

  23. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 21, 2015 4:00 pm

    Yes TB. It hits the mark too

  24. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 21, 2015 4:04 pm

    I’ve suggested that reb edit his blog history and publish the best. There’s probably a thousand people that would buy it. I’d buy a dozen copies, autograph them and use them as gifts.

  25. May 21, 2015 4:10 pm

    “Yes TB. It hits the mark too”

    Thank you.

    I particularly like the first three words of the opening paragraph.

  26. May 21, 2015 4:57 pm
  27. TB Queensland permalink
    May 21, 2015 6:18 pm

    I particularly like the first three words of the opening paragraph.

    Had to go back and look, bro! Droll … but I like y’u …

    And I just looked at the photo above … there ain’t many people I’d like to snot!

    I didn’t know Pell was a fisherman (oh … ‘scuse the pun) …

  28. TB Queensland permalink
    May 21, 2015 6:20 pm

    Yes TB. It hits the mark too

    I reckon all, sreb’s, posts hit the mark, ToM … somehow I think that’s why most of us comment here …

    Can’t help thinking its time for a TGT Summit … even if it is in Mexico … 😉

  29. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 21, 2015 7:45 pm

    “It’s about time that these Catholic scum face the full force of justice and be held to account for their heinous crimes.”

    Agreed. Wholeheartedly.

  30. May 21, 2015 10:09 pm

    I’m still self-flagellating!

  31. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 21, 2015 10:41 pm

    I like the 4th photo of pell in your post reb, where he’s getting out of the car. He’s got a really obvious bald spot which seems to match those little hat things that they wear all the time. Made me wonder if it was caused by years of wearing a little tiny, poncey hat that serves no real purpose. The rest of his hair seems quite thick still.

  32. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 21, 2015 11:31 pm

    https://twitter.com/DameyonBonson/status/601369577512042497

  33. May 21, 2015 11:58 pm

    Just because I can…and the fantasists are in hiding, because they recognise the GRAVITY…

  34. May 22, 2015 12:20 am

    armchair opinionator permalink

    May 21, 2015 10:33 am

    The church must be sued until it is bankrupted, the damage done to people is just too horrific.”

    What’s wrong with you people, he’s since come out & implausibly denied.

    Clearly, he saw & heard nothing, even though he allegedly lived with a pero!

    god’s men on Earth are unimpeachable!

    * remember, the moosies are frightening, forget the misdeeds of the other depraved fantasist rapists!

  35. Tom R permalink
    May 22, 2015 7:45 am

    What’s wrong with you people, he’s since come out & implausibly denied.

  36. Tom R permalink
    May 22, 2015 8:07 am

    This is from a grubmint that protects the likes of pell from “questions to answer”

    Asylum seekers no longer asked torture question during first encounter with Australian officials

    http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/asylum-seekers-no-longer-asked-torture-question-during-first-encounter-with-australian-officials-20150521-gh6hu2.html

    I also see that Labor are taking a vote at their annual conference over whether they will agree to turning back boats or not. I just have one small question for Labor

    YOU REALLY NEED TO TAKE A VOTE YOU FUCKS!!

  37. May 22, 2015 11:05 am

    “”I’m still self-flagellating!””

    How disappointing…

    I was expecting you to trot out your usual well worn defence:

    – But child sex abuse goes on in other parts of society too..
    – It’s fashionable to single out the Catholic Church for attention
    – You lefties wouldn’t say anything if it was the muslins doing it..

  38. May 22, 2015 11:45 am
  39. May 22, 2015 11:49 am
  40. TB Queensland permalink
    May 22, 2015 11:58 am

    Remember the secret meeting that The Mad Abbot had with Pell … denied on Lateline and then proven to be lying …

    http://www.phonytonyabbott.com/lies-and-deceptions/tony-abbott-tries-lie-about-meeting-george-pell-lead-2004-federal-election

    ToSY, there was even a painting …

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/Arts/Pell-tolls-for-Bald-Archies/2005/05/04/1115092543961.html

  41. TB Queensland permalink
    May 22, 2015 12:03 pm

    The commenters on this thread seem to be quite limited … wonder why?

  42. Walrus permalink
    May 22, 2015 12:08 pm

    Because its boring.

    Catholic Church bashing again………….. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN

    And next week the Uniting Church……………………..Then the Salvos………………….Then……………………………who knows ?

    It will all play out in due time.

  43. Walrus permalink
    May 22, 2015 12:11 pm

    “”I also see that Labor are taking a vote at their annual conference over whether they will agree to turning back boats or not…””

    Yep…………the Left is taking control.

    Not to forget a new Carbon Tax………………………I wonder if there will be compensation for that this time around ?……………ROFLMAO

  44. May 22, 2015 12:30 pm

    “”Because its boring.”””

    Says the accountant.

    #ohtheirony

  45. Tom R permalink
    May 22, 2015 12:32 pm

  46. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 22, 2015 12:53 pm

    “The commenters on this thread seem to be quite limited … wonder why?”

    I said earlier that I agree with the comments here. I am sickened by the whole thing. I only hope that the enablers go to jail for a long time. In a way they are worse.

    Also, I have a bit on at the moment (I haven’t had time to comment on the other threads either).

    Finally, being by nature an arse, I rarely comment at all unless to disagree with someone. There is little to disagree with on this thread. To the extent that I might take a point here or there, I don’t want to do that or anything else to diminish the great evil that has been perpetrated by the Catholic Church.

  47. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 22, 2015 1:17 pm

    The commenters on this thread seem to be quite limited … wonder why?

    Like SB i usually do not comment unless i disagree with what has been said.

    This whole thing is a disgrace. The worst thing is that rather than removing the people who have committed these crimes they tended to place them at another church where they offended again.

  48. TB Queensland permalink
    May 22, 2015 1:30 pm

    Time to make your mark then, Kneel, sb … see above …

    Wally’ll only sign one for Muslim changes … Onward Christian Soldiers … I suppose, hey?

  49. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 22, 2015 2:23 pm

    Yeah. I’m in Brisbane today, it’s full of upmarket bogans.

  50. May 22, 2015 2:25 pm

    “”I’m in Brisbane today, it’s full of upmarket bogans.””

  51. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 22, 2015 2:32 pm

    Thanks for the correction – your you’re right!

  52. TB Queensland permalink
    May 22, 2015 2:39 pm

    Yeah. I’m in Brisbane today, it’s full of upmarket bogans.

    As opposed to downmarket Mexicans in Melbourne …

    Me I stay out of the Brisbane CBD … its full of people from Victoria …

  53. TB Queensland permalink
    May 22, 2015 2:40 pm

    Should have let me know, ToM … could have met you for a XXXX somewhere … I’ve just had my weekly shave … 😉

  54. TB Queensland permalink
    May 22, 2015 3:06 pm

    And speaking of irony …

    MR Abbott says the plan will reveal the costs of inaction, after an Infrastructure Australia audit to be released on Friday …

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/road-funds-a-mix-of-tolls-and-govt-abbott/story-e6frfku9-1227364873449

  55. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 22, 2015 3:54 pm

    Thanks for the offer TB. Luckily Unfortunately I’m not in your part of this seething mass of bogans town.

  56. Accounts permalink
    May 22, 2015 4:22 pm

    ToM,

    Are you going to drop in on your brother ?

  57. Walrus permalink
    May 22, 2015 4:23 pm

    LOL

    I signed in as Accounts rather than Walrus.

    Password change now required…..LOL

  58. TB Queensland permalink
    May 22, 2015 5:50 pm

    So you kan spel acuntant then? 😉

  59. Tom R permalink
    May 22, 2015 7:19 pm

    what’s an ant got to with a cunt?

    Although, speaking of not the ant

  60. Tom R permalink
    May 22, 2015 7:20 pm

  61. TB Queensland permalink
    May 22, 2015 7:24 pm

    Abbott’s refusal to help the thousands of Rohingya refugees

    As someone who actually CHOSE to be Australian I somehow feel very, very dirty!

  62. May 22, 2015 9:49 pm

    “How disappointing…
    I was expecting you to trot out your usual well worn defence:
    – But child sex abuse goes on in other parts of society too..
    – It’s fashionable to single out the Catholic Church for attention
    – You lefties wouldn’t say anything if it was the muslins doing it..”

    Yeah, I’ve never said any of those things, but they’re all good points.

  63. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 22, 2015 10:19 pm

    https://twitter.com/Snow_Crash/status/601614669757964288

  64. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 22, 2015 10:20 pm

    “– You lefties wouldn’t say anything if it was the muslins doing it..”

    Well of course, but at least they have the good grace to marry children at 12

  65. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 22, 2015 10:24 pm

  66. Good for Walrus Budget permalink
    May 23, 2015 1:11 am

    Ok so the Catholic clergy are/have been scum bags with young boys.

    And I on the evidence so far have no reason to doubt that…..so far

    So that means they are homosexual Catholics ……….is that not correct ?

    Have we heard of widespread paedo activity with young girls from the Catholic Church ?

    Discuss

  67. Good for Walrus Budget permalink
    May 23, 2015 1:17 am

    Sorry I forgot to add

    That means Gay people are more likely to be pedophiles

    But of course saying that would mean all Catholics support child sexual abuse

  68. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 23, 2015 10:04 am

    “Discuss”- the reasonable view is that people who become priests are odd. Twenty year olds that decide to live a life of sexual isolation aren’t mainstream.

    Some of he odd balls will prey on vulnerable for their sexual gratification

    The abuse of children is a direct product of the Catholic system

  69. TB Queensland permalink
    May 23, 2015 10:10 am

    Shakes head … again …

    Are homosexual adults in general sexually attracted to children and are preadolescent children at greater risk of molestation from homosexual adults than from heterosexual adults? There is no reason to believe so. The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual (Groth & Gary, 1982, p. 147).

    http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites/rainbow/HTML/facts_molestation.html

    Have we heard of widespread paedo activity with young girls from the Catholic Church ?

    I’ve never heard of a Catholic altar girl ………………….?

  70. May 24, 2015 2:50 pm

    The result of the Irelandia `gay-marriage` public referendum is .. 62%-FOR gay-marriage .. Congratulations Teabags! .. we are now MORE backwards than irelandia! .. #yay.team

  71. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 24, 2015 4:36 pm

    Have we heard of widespread paedo activity with young girls from the Catholic Church ?
    Discuss

    They have sexually abused young girls, haven’t you heard and seen all the women appearing before the RC?

    The real reasons priests abuse:
    http://www.salon.com/2011/05/19/priest_5/

    …There’s a tremendous body of data showing that gay men are no more likely to become sexually involved with a boy than are heterosexual men to become involved sexually with a girl — and that’s one of the reasons that they allowed gay men to adopt in Florida. The evidence simply doesn’t support that this is a gay problem. In fact, I think that’s one of the mistakes the church made early on, thinking they had a homosexuality problem when what they really had was a child sexual abuse problem…

    Priest Abuse: Male Compared to Female Victimization Impact
    Girls as well as boys have been traumatized by priests
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/crimes-violence/201005/priest-abuse-male-compared-female-victimization-impact

    …A sexual advance made by “a man of God” is thus extremely disillusioning to the child, who is often highly religious and trusting of this highly esteemed adult. The male victim is apt to have been an alter boy; the female victim, a vulnerable girl who has gone to the priest for personal counselling. As a predator, the priest takes advantage of the vulnerability of the child or youth.

    …The disproportionate number of male compared to female victims is seen as a reflection of the role that priests traditionally were expected to play as role models to young males. Keep in mind the fact that until fairly recently, only boys could be altar boys (servers) who got to work alongside the priests….

    The Vatican’s response, which is to remove known homosexuals from the priesthood, is not helpful. This is a case of scapegoating and a false equating of homosexuality with pedophilia…

  72. TB Queensland permalink
    May 24, 2015 6:08 pm

    This is a case of scapegoating and a false equating of homosexuality with pedophilia…

    Yes, KL, I did neglect the evidence of young (and not so young!) girls being sexually mistreated …

    The whole monstrous charade is indefensible …

  73. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 25, 2015 5:57 pm

    Cardinal George Pell visited Ballarat weeks before royal commission hearings in town began
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-25/cardinal-george-pell-visited-ballarat-before-royal-commission/6495718

    …A post on St Patrick’s College’s website showed Cardinal Pell visited the Ballarat school late in March 2015.

    “He was particularly interested in meeting new headmaster John Crowley for the first time and taking a tour of the college to meet with staff and students and inspect new facilities,” the post read.

    The page, which said he was on a short vacation to Australia, has since been removed from the site…

  74. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 25, 2015 7:10 pm

    The main reason ISIS is a problem is that it provides violent misfits, weirdos and nutcases (usually on welfare) with a rallying point.

    Apparently even too weird for bikie misfits…

    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/lindt-cafe-siege-inquest-man-haron-monis-wanted-to-be-a-rebels-bikie-20150525-gh93k4.html

  75. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 26, 2015 2:46 pm

    In breaking news about another death cult…

    ”Crisis at Carlton: Blues set to sack Mick Malthouse

    Malthouse the former AFL coach of Footscray, West Coast, Collingwood and Carlton has been on the slide for over 30 years.

    His sudden departure from the Bulldogs a few decades ago represented a highpoint for that club, it also represented the highlight of his coaching career.

    Since leaving the Bulldogs Malthouse has moved to Perth, where he appeared rational, given the crackpot nature of the population. Coaching the Eagles is one of the most hated (by sane people) occupations in the country. Then to Collingwood, where Mick was regarded as “first among bogans” until bogan Eddie McGuire replaced him with ultra bogan Nathan Buckely (and his lovely wife Tania, voted by AFL players as best in the cot)

    Finally the hapless Mick finished at Carlton, the club of Fraser and Menzies, which justifies opposition players spitting at the crowd.

    Good bye Mick, and f**k off.

    http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/crisis-at-carlton-blues-set-to-sack-mick-malthouse-20150526-gh9qof.html

  76. May 26, 2015 3:57 pm
  77. May 26, 2015 7:45 pm

    “I think that was always the intention TB. The safety and protection of the catholic state from where he will never return. He ran from any mortal justice.”

    Inescapable interpretation…the R.C.C. has been (along with Pell) obviously (and shamefully) playing the long game on this.

    Notably, conservative megaphones like Bolt have been running serious interference for Pell (Abbott’s ‘mentor’?) for the last week, since the ‘heat’ got intense…

    Fuck their ‘Institutional Response’.

  78. May 26, 2015 7:50 pm

    “Remember the secret meeting that The Mad Abbot had with Pell … denied on Lateline and then proven to be lying … ”

    Well, do I remember!

    Only reflexive apologists compartmentalise such things upon the documentary record.

  79. May 26, 2015 7:59 pm

    “I said earlier that I agree with the comments here. I am sickened by the whole thing. I only hope that the enablers go to jail for a long time. In a way they are worse.”

    Splatter is honest & (presumably) more ‘invested’ (self declared) than most. I appreciate the candour, and the legitimate (dare I say ‘christian’ [but I’d rather categorise it as decent]) response. It’s simply not worth defending the indefensible…and I couldn’t give a semi-circular fuck if that is/was Pell’s job…when you pretend towards moral arbitration you don’t get semantic excuses or (im)plausible deniability

    “Also, I have a bit on at the moment (I haven’t had time to comment on the other threads either).”

    Me too.

    My dearth of input is because I am time poor, not because I don’t care. I play catch up a lot, and often don’t get to formulate a response.
    Strangely, this is one of the corners of the interwebz I do care about & pay attention to (when I’m able).

    Peace

  80. May 26, 2015 8:00 pm

    “I remember!”

    Me too. Apparently there are (still) ppl quite happy to defend the lying piece of filth we have as a PM.

  81. May 26, 2015 8:01 pm

    TPP will be the ‘new’ god…and for ToSy, I’m pretty sure it gets signed prior to parliament getting a good look at it…let alone the (un)willing plebs (the rest of us) who stand to be impinged by it.

  82. May 26, 2015 8:03 pm

    ” Apparently there are (still) ppl quite happy to defend the lying piece of filth we have as a PM.”

    It’s a reflexive ‘Team Response’…or they’ve had too much Bolt et al, for breakfast, and lost their ability to even give the illusion of attempted impartiality.

    Mind you, terrorists are scary & apt to distract the easily spotting.

  83. May 26, 2015 10:27 pm

    I, too,care somewhat about this corner of the innerwebs (although not quite as obsessed interested as I once was, and don’t actually know why), but I’m also time-constrained recently.

    As for the Trans Pacific Partnership, whatever it is, I reserve my judgement. Because judgement is the only input the ‘ordinary’ person is going to get. Apparently.

  84. May 27, 2015 8:58 am

    This should be interesting…

  85. May 27, 2015 11:57 am
  86. TB Queensland permalink
    May 27, 2015 12:06 pm

    Jesus fkn Christ!

    So, god creates gays and the vatican knows better … someone is missing something here …

  87. May 27, 2015 12:20 pm

    I would’ve thought that grown men sexually abusing hundreds of boys would be more akin to a “defeat for humanity””…

    The rank hypocrisy is astounding.

  88. May 27, 2015 12:24 pm
  89. May 27, 2015 12:25 pm
  90. May 27, 2015 8:18 pm

    So the Catholic Church reckons that Ireland’s decisive vote in favour of marriage equality is a “defeat for humanity.” I would’ve thought that harbouring and protecting adult men who were brutalising, torturing and sexually abusing young children in their care would be considered more of a “defeat for humanity” than anything two adult consenting males in a loving relationship could do. Perhaps Cardinal Pell should reflect on that while he explains justifying why he provided a character reference for serial paedophile Gerald Ridsdal who raped more than 100 young boys in his care.

  91. May 28, 2015 5:35 pm

    “Because judgement is the only input the ‘ordinary’ person is going to get. Apparently.”

    Luckily for the signatories, our ‘advocates’ (guffaw…by their actions on this they expose their true allegiances better than ever…both sides; Labor’s protestations are murmurs which are obligatory at best & cynically neutered at worst), our judgement & potential eternal condemnation is very easy to ignore.

    We are as the buzzing of flies to them.

  92. May 28, 2015 5:38 pm

    “Vatican says Ireland gay marriage vote is ‘defeat for humanity’ ”

    I read the Guardian article the other day & meant to post it here, but reb has beat me to it! Mayhaps our incredulity is of similar proportions to the ‘official’ response? Note, Pope SoftRhetoric is staying ‘safely’ off of the public record in the aftermath of the ‘Ireland Solution’?

  93. May 28, 2015 5:40 pm
  94. May 28, 2015 5:41 pm

    “Gerald Ridsdale says he can’t remember when he 1st met George Pell and can’t remember living with him in the early 1970s”

    I call that knowingly & willingly running interference.

  95. May 28, 2015 5:44 pm

    Note, Pope SoftRhetoric is staying ‘safely’ off of the public record in the aftermath of the ‘Ireland Solution’?

    Well one could almost (but not) feel sorry for them. They’ve ruled through power, guilt and vilification for generations, and ppl are suddenly wising up to the fact that they don’t need to subscribe to that medieval bullshit anymore, and in fact a better life awaits those who don’t.

    If I get to see one thing before I cark it it will be seeing the demise of the catholic Church and those motherfuckers that work there.

  96. May 28, 2015 5:47 pm

    reb @ 5:40

    Yep, just like AbbottCorp (indeed, most politicians) he ‘s tailoring (not Tayloring…make what you will of that…. 😉 ) his despicable message for his subservient (or not) audience.

  97. May 28, 2015 5:54 pm

    “Well one could almost (but not) feel sorry for them. They’ve ruled through power, guilt and vilification for generations, and ppl are suddenly wising up to the fact that they don’t need to subscribe to that medieval bullshit anymore, and in fact a better life awaits those who don’t.”

    People who were on the fence are suddenly confronted with the facts , largely impossible to ignore (in the days of social media) that (in part at least, and inexcusably) an Institution which pretends at moral arbitration is, in FACT, an Institution of PR-centric, fallout-mitigating, Paedophile Protectors. Mustn’t soil the brand, you know!

    I hope you live for another century, but, in your remaining time you’re likely to see the erosion of the church’s moral credibility (in the short term) & the requisite erosion of its indoctrinated children willing adherents (in the longer term).

  98. Walrus permalink
    May 28, 2015 6:11 pm

    “If I get to see one thing before I cark it it will be seeing the demise of the catholic Church and those motherfuckers that work there.”

    Yeah and Stalin was an atheist and therefore all atheists are evil

  99. Walrus permalink
    May 28, 2015 6:13 pm

    Or

    Any one who served in the German Army in WW2 was evil……………….I mean just look at all those atrocities

  100. May 28, 2015 6:22 pm

    I notice he didn’t defend Pell by name.

  101. May 28, 2015 6:24 pm

    Stalin was an egomaniac first, a Marxist second & was raised Christian.

    Personally, I think atheism had fuck all to do with his atrocities…they certainly weren’t ‘In The Name Of’ atheism.

    He used/abused religion as a tool of state. As all ‘Statesmen’ do.

  102. Good for Walrus Budget permalink
    May 28, 2015 10:15 pm

    “Personally, I think atheism had fuck all to do with his atrocities…they certainly weren’t ‘In The Name Of’ atheism.”

    That’s not my point

    He was an evil atheist so all atheists are evil just like everyone working for the RC Church must be a ped .

    That’s my point………..but feel free to carry on.

    Any chance of getting a Muslim thread up soon with the author’s real name attached ?

    Nah……won’t hold my breath on that one

  103. May 29, 2015 7:20 am

    “”Any chance of getting a Muslim thread up soon with the author’s real name attached ?””

    Sure. Just send it to me by email and I’ll be only too pleased to publish it for you.

    When do you think you’ll be able to have it ready?

  104. May 29, 2015 11:30 am
  105. TB Queensland permalink
    May 29, 2015 12:34 pm

    They’ve ruled through power, guilt and vilification for generations, and ppl are suddenly wising up to the fact

    Wishful thinking, sreb … there are people on this blog who still call for “evidence” FFS!

    He was an evil atheist so all atheists are evil just like everyone working for the RC Church must be a ped .

    No not all RCs are peds but you ARE still defending the church that harboured them!

    Any chance of getting a Muslim thread up soon with the author’s real name attached ?

    And no-one here defends muslims … organised religion is organised religion … if they fuck up we say so … you may not have noticed what happens outside you tunnel …

    The world would be far better off without people who make decisions based on an emotive framework, subconsciously, psychologically and carefully crafted to make human beings believe they are infallible with the help of a misty, mystic things that they all agree to disagree on … sending messages to a chosen few Fuckwits© … who want to rule the world …

  106. May 29, 2015 6:28 pm

    “………..but feel free to carry on.”

    No, that would be you, carrying on…

    “Any chance of getting a Muslim thread up soon with the author’s real name attached ?”

    Coming from the…cough…’devil’s advocate’…cough…yes, very credible response.

    I love how you fuckers think that because I criticise the moral delinquency of Christianity I am, by some bizarre extension, an Islamic Apologist. Get it sorted, I think religion is a ridiculous fucking excuse for anything. I couldn’t care less if you want to play “They’re Worse!!!!”…honestly, that in no way invalidates legitimate negative observations of any of the other lot of fantasy clubs.

  107. May 29, 2015 6:30 pm

    Shoulda read upwards comments first. TB said it already…

    “And no-one here defends muslims … organised religion is organised religion … if they fuck up we say so … you may not have noticed what happens outside you tunnel …

    The world would be far better off without people who make decisions based on an emotive framework, subconsciously, psychologically and carefully crafted to make human beings believe they are infallible with the help of a misty, mystic things that they all agree to disagree on … sending messages to a chosen few Fuckwits© … who want to rule the world …”

  108. May 29, 2015 6:32 pm

    I’m convinced they all mistake attacks upon “The Institutional Response To Paedophilia” as an attack solely upon the catholic church.

    How very oblivious…& convenient; it makes the apologia & deflections all that much more (mis)targeted.

  109. May 29, 2015 6:35 pm

    So, to clarify…sundry catholic clergy have (uncontested fact) abused children under their ‘power’ for decades (just those so far known thereof)…

    But….MOOOOOOSLEMS!!!!!!!!!

  110. May 29, 2015 7:23 pm

    I see Walrus has ignored my invitation…

    #nosurprisesthere

  111. May 29, 2015 7:53 pm

    well, the blubbering is quite funny here today,

    blubbers”””everyone working for the RC Church must be a ped””””

    #nobody said they are `all` pedos, but the evidence is stacking-up they are probably all `pedo-defenders`, they `all` seemed to play `hide-the-pedo` and not support victims, and NOT report crimes.

    #even if they kept their hands and cock to themselves, `all` the `pedo-defenders` kept `all` their yaps shut.

    (take note Tinfoil`osy)

  112. May 29, 2015 8:07 pm

    blubbering”””’He was an evil atheist so all atheists are evil”””

    #you`re not much of an `accountant` either are you, all those (non)aligned, (non)skyfairy-believing, (non)tax-loop-holes to pay for [non]beliefs-agendas you have to deal with.

    #you do realize `non-believers/atheists` are NOT an `organized` homogeneous group don`t you.? The CPA does not stand for `Consolidated Practical Atheists`.? They don`t meet each week to plot for power, leverage govt, or maintain a tax-free status to off-shore wealth to havens or head-office.?

  113. June 4, 2015 9:54 am

    How unsurprisment that the Catholic filth™ are siding with their man at the Vatican..

    Next it’ll be Pell saying he’s the victim in all this….

    “”Top Australian clergy back Cardinal Pell as ‘man of integrity’ http://bit.ly/1MmTHxg

  114. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2015 10:11 am

    ‘man of integrity’

    😯

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