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Support for Abbott Plummets in wake of Broken Promises and G20 Gaffes

November 18, 2014

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The insipid Bill Shorten is now Australia’s preferred prime minister with voters universally condemning Tony Abbott’s performance on the world stage during the G20.

According to the latest Newspoll, Blib Spartan’s rating as preferred prime minister has jumped from 38% a fortnight ago to 43% now.

Tony Abbott lost ground, collapsing from falling from 39% to a mere 37%.

It’s the first time Shorten has polled ahead of Abbott in three months.

Labor extended has its lead in the election-deciding two-party preferred stakes to a massive 10 points, which will strike fear into the ranks of the LNP as it marks its half way point in government.

Labor now leads the Coalition  55% to 45%.

It is Labor’s 14th consecutive lead over the Coalition.

The Coalition’s primary vote also fell, hitting a four-month low of 36%.

Its vote at the last federal election was 45.6%. Labor’s primary vote rose three points to 39%, up from 33.3% at the last federal election.

The Greens’ primary vote has fallen two points to 11%, while the “other” category, which includes independents and the Palmer United party, has gained one point to sit at 14%.

Tony Abbott’s personal approval rating has also fallen one point to 36%, while his dissatisfaction rating has soared three points to 55%, his highest since August.

Shorten’s approval rating is up two points to 39%, while his dissatisfaction rating is down four points to 41%.

The survey was conducted on Friday and across the weekend as Tony Abbott was hosting world leaders at the G20 conference in Brisbane.

 

 

 

 

 

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206 Comments leave one →
  1. Tom R permalink
    November 18, 2014 9:06 am

    ltdnews only has so much lipstick. Obviously not enough to cover up the first pm to still be in opposition (stolen again from pb)

  2. November 18, 2014 9:19 am

    “the first pm to still be in opposition”

    That’s gold and oh so accurate….!

  3. November 18, 2014 9:33 am

    Consumer confidence drops in the lead up to the critical pre-Christmas retail spending period…

    IT’S THE MEDIA’S FAULT!

  4. Tom R permalink
    November 18, 2014 9:40 am

    Queensland election to be called today.

    You heard it here first (unless you heard it where I did first 😉 )

  5. Tom R permalink
    November 18, 2014 9:40 am

    IT’S THE MEDIA’S FAULT!

    I don’t think you should let Labor of the hook that easily reb 😉

  6. TB Queensland permalink
    November 18, 2014 9:45 am

    Looks like it’ll be a bit quiet on this thread …

    I was thinking this morning about the China FTA … we’ve been negotiating for ten years and along comes Robbie the Robot and within 12 months we’re signed up and ready to go …

    What have they given away?

    This is the most childish, amateurish, boorish, incompetentish government Australia has ever had … without doubt …

    Great question on the bottom line “feed” last night … “when is Shaun Micallef going to get a run on Q&A?” …

    If you don’t watch I’m Mad As Hell you’re mad … brilliant satire …

  7. Tom R permalink
    November 18, 2014 9:55 am

    and within 12 months we’re signed up and ready to go …

    I wonder how many other people think that we have signed a “Free Trade ” Agreement with China?

    What have they given away?

    Well, for starters, the farm. The Nats must be quite chuffed with their achievement.

    I mean, from the bits we have seen about this agreement to agree, we are allowed to sell a bit more there, in return for them being able to buy up everything that we sell back to them 😯 ❓

    So they can buy up what they are about to purchase.

    How in gods name is that “Fair”?

    I guess yabot was serious when said “I’m focussing not on what might happen in 16 years’ time. I’m focusing on what we’re doing now.”

    So, it appears he doesn’t care how much of Australia Australians own that they can sell to the Chinese in 16 years time?

    As long as he gets his FTA signed now (or later)

  8. November 18, 2014 11:23 am

    “”If you don’t watch I’m Mad As Hell you’re mad … brilliant satire …”

    AGREED!

    It’s the best comedy show on TV at the moment I reckon…

    I liked it the other night when they crossed to the traffic report – live from the Mad as Helicopter!

  9. November 18, 2014 11:26 am

    “we are allowed to sell a bit more there, in return for them being able to buy up everything that we sell back to them “

    Exactly!

    It’s the Chinese Model:

    Basically the plan is to turn Australia into a giant souvenir shop, where Chinese tourists come here in Mass Tour Groups booked by Chinese owned and operated Tour Companies to buy stuffed kangaroos, made in China from Chinese owned souvenir shops.

    It’s a great win for the Australian Economy!*

    *sarcasm alert

  10. Tom R permalink
    November 18, 2014 11:30 am

    *sarcasm alert

    Perhaps someone should have added that at the end when they proposed it to yabot 😦

  11. Tom R permalink
    November 18, 2014 11:33 am

    I also wonder why there are not more cheering about how great it is we have signed this FTA with China?

  12. TB Queensland permalink
    November 18, 2014 11:39 am

    Yeah, TR! The silence is deafening … oh, wait! Is that the sound of a walrus wailing?

    Chortle … 🙂

  13. November 18, 2014 12:03 pm

    Why are you lot so cynical?

    The FTA announcement has been met with resounding enthusiasm as the market shows:

    “ASX FALLS, NIKKEI GETS SMASHED”

    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/australian-stocks-are-down-heres-what-you-need-to-know-2014-11

  14. November 18, 2014 12:08 pm

    “ASX FALLS, NIKKEI GETS SMASHED”

    Don’t sell. It’s a buying opportunity.

  15. Tom R permalink
    November 18, 2014 12:08 pm

    Why are you lot so cynical?

    I don’t know.

    Could it be because our grubmint pushed Climate Change off the table and replaced it with “real solutions”

    You know, like making absolute commitments that make a real change, not airy fairy stuff like a Climate Fund.

    You know, real stuff, like a PPL, a $7 fee for GP visits and university deregulation

    No wonder the G19 went away confused, bemused and totally let down.

    “If anyone can produce a serious economist who says that slapping on a GP tax or $100,000 degrees are going to make it easier for Australia to grow … I’d like to meet them,” he said.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/ppl-in-mix-as-australias-g20-commitment/story-e6frfku9-1227125809813

    I’d like to meet them too.

  16. egg permalink
    November 18, 2014 12:29 pm

    ‘Could it be because our grubmint pushed Climate Change off the table and replaced it with “real solutions”

    Yes and for good reason, which requires no elaboration from me. Personally, coming from Labor’s left faction, I cheered when Abbott stood up to the world’s most powerful man and won.

  17. November 18, 2014 12:31 pm

    Does anyone else get the feeling that Tony’s friends at news limited are realising that he’s a lost cause?

    They’re now running with this headline article that he’s the “village idiot.”

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/tony-abbott-down-in-polls-after-g20/story-e6frflo9-1227126587431

    With friends like that, who needs enemas..

  18. November 18, 2014 12:32 pm

    “I cheered when Abbott stood up to the world’s most powerful man and won.”

    #delusionalidiot

  19. Tom R permalink
    November 18, 2014 12:32 pm

    which requires no elaboration from me

    ROFL

    So, you think making commitments of policies that have been rejected in our Parliament and will quite likely never see the light of day is a “real solution”

    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

    😯

  20. November 18, 2014 12:34 pm

  21. November 18, 2014 12:45 pm

    Yes, it’s odd that the so-called leader of the free world would make such a bombastic intervention into the politics of a supposed ally and friendly host, but the true statesman turns out to be Mr Xi of China.

    #whenworldscollide.

  22. Tom R permalink
    November 18, 2014 12:57 pm

    bombastic intervention

    ROFL

    The G19 basically begged him to include Climate Change, but misterheadinthesand knew better

    Just cos you’re chairthingy doesn’t mean that you ignore the wishes of the others

    All he needed to do was accept what was wanted, but instead he forced the issue, and then pretends it’s everyone else being rude

    What a wanker

  23. November 18, 2014 1:02 pm

    “”instead he forced the issue, and then pretends it’s everyone else being rude”””

    I know…..!!

    And how dare they not congratulate him for scrapping the carbon tax, which they obviously all realised was a remarkable achievement…

  24. egg permalink
    November 18, 2014 1:13 pm

    ‘…the true statesman turns out to be Mr Xi of China.’

    Hear Hear

  25. egg permalink
    November 18, 2014 1:14 pm

    ‘The G19 basically begged him to include Climate Change’

    I don’t doubt your word, but would you have a link?

  26. egg permalink
    November 18, 2014 1:32 pm

    Shit Happens

    ‘According to the Newspoll, conducted for News Corp last weekend, Tony Abbott suffered a fall in satisfaction with opposition leader Bill Shorten again the nation’s preferred prime minister.

    ‘This follows Mr Abbott’s embarrassing gaffe on Monday night where he confused China with Tasmania while toasting Chinese President Xi Jinping at a special dinner at parliament house’

    Daily Mail

  27. November 18, 2014 1:40 pm

    “he confused China with Tasmania”

    Well, they’re both overseas.

  28. Tom R permalink
    November 18, 2014 1:50 pm

    So, no-one is very happy with us signing this FTA with China then?

  29. Tom R permalink
    November 18, 2014 1:51 pm

    “he confused China with Tasmania”

    Chinania?

  30. November 18, 2014 3:27 pm
  31. Walrus permalink
    November 18, 2014 3:44 pm

    “So, no-one is very happy with us signing this FTA with China then?”

    There are always Winners and Losers you Bolsheviks just concentrate on losers since you have quite an afinity with that kinda status………………….LOL

  32. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 18, 2014 3:44 pm

    Obama has done something similar to Britain. If you insult the countries leader in a forum like that you insult the country. Better to say some things in private even if you are correct.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100215856/barack-obamas-top-ten-insults-against-britain-2013-edition/

    Barack Obama’s top ten insults against Britain

    1. Siding with Argentina over the Falkland Islands
    2. Snubbing the funeral of Lady Thatcher
    3. Holding up a Senate Resolution honouring Lady Thatcher
    4. Lecturing Britain against leaving the EU
    5. Throwing Churchill out of the Oval Office
    6. Placing a “boot on the throat” of BP
    7. Using a State Dinner for the British Prime Minister as a campaign event
    8. DVDs for the Prime Minister
    9. Insulting words from the State Department
    10. Calling France America’s strongest ally

  33. egg permalink
    November 18, 2014 4:01 pm

    “So, no-one is very happy with us signing this FTA with China then?”

    Barnaby is happy, the farmers and graziers will claw back a decent return at the expense of city folk. Its a postmodern agrarian revolution.

  34. TB Queensland permalink
    November 18, 2014 4:01 pm

    Nile Gardiner is a British conservative commentator, director of the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom at The Heritage Foundation, and a former aide to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. He is also a commentator on U.S. and British television and a frequent contributor to the Fox News network, and the London Daily Telegraph.

    … I too would have thrown Churchill’s bust out … along with Thatcher they would be the most obnoxious British politicians in modern history …

    Can we have a list of The Abbott’s gaffes … shit happens a lot to him …

  35. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 18, 2014 4:06 pm

    “… I too would have thrown Churchill’s bust out

    I knew you would say that. But Obama is anti-british and pro-france.

    Most Americans thought giving DVD’s as a present to Gordon Brown was embarrassing.

  36. Walrus permalink
    November 18, 2014 4:09 pm

    Added to that is Mrs POTUS is rumoured to be a dreadful piece of work in private.

  37. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 18, 2014 4:28 pm

    I’ve not specifically read the FTA, but China continues to grow at about 7% a year. Australia is wise to hitch itself to the growth.

  38. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 18, 2014 4:37 pm

    Well Alan Jones is against the FTA and he is a Coalition supporter.

    I wish i could make a comment but i have no idea if it is a good idea or a bad idea.

  39. Claim online shopping vouchers permalink
    November 18, 2014 4:40 pm

    This great article I am please to find. This discussion interest me. How do you research indepth article like these? I definitely come back again to read more. This blog is really great _ one of the best O have ever seen. Keep up the great work!

  40. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 18, 2014 4:42 pm

    Allan Jones is a sensationalist dickhead who would launch into anyone if he thought there was a headline in it.

  41. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 18, 2014 4:44 pm

    Claim on line vouchers makes a good point

  42. November 18, 2014 5:01 pm

    Well that was completely expected… lets face it, Abbott is proving to be magnanimously out of his depth in every aspect of his ability ..people are consistently winging about people picking on him as he keeps digging a bigger vacuous hole for himself.

    He is proving by virtue of his own actions, reflected in every poll what everyone suspected (and what those of us who knew of him) to be emphatically true, he has no vision beyond rhetoric and sloganism….

    Australians deserve better and the majority now have spoken loudly about any “mandate” he so hollowly claims.

    Personally, coming from Labor’s left faction, I cheered when Abbott stood up to the world’s most powerful man and won.

    What a lying grub you are Egg

    Poor Squeal is in denial … grasping at straws…..just more cheap offal in the Abottoir

  43. November 18, 2014 5:10 pm

    “”This blog is really great _ one of the best O have ever seen””

    Why thank you Claim online shopping vouchers (if that’s your real name), that’s very kind of you. Most people just saunter in here and treat this place like a bloody hotel without so much as a by your leave.

    It’s nice to actually be appreciated for a change, unlike those mindless pricks like egg, walrus and Neil to name but a few… Perhaps you could have a word to them about manners and etiquette if it’s not too much to ask?

    But aside from that what do you think of the FTA? It’s fucked isn’t it….??

    I look forward to hearing from you.

  44. November 18, 2014 5:10 pm

    I wish i could make a comment but i have no idea if it is a good idea or a bad idea.

    Holy fuck ..knock me down with a feather.. did we just witness Humility and honesty from Squeal? He must be in a state of shock 😯

    FTA’s are all about globalisation and Corporatocracy.. part of the big banking families line out… line in strategy. Lip service at best… China’s main game is espionage. Expect them to buy up big here and have little pockets of workforces that will be about as far from the “jobs” rhetoric is is conceivably possible.. They want out shit.

  45. November 18, 2014 5:11 pm

    “”I wish i could make a comment but i have no idea if it is a good idea or a bad idea.””

    That’s ok Neil. It’s called “thinking.”

    It can hurt a bit if you’re not used to it.

    I get the same sensation when I drink frozen margaritas too quickly.

  46. egg permalink
    November 18, 2014 5:12 pm

    “he confused China with Tasmania”

    He may have mispoke because of a momentary brain fade, Xi would not have been offended. Xi is a tough cookie, as his recent display at the APEC Conference reveals.

    ‘Although Xi met Abe, he managed to snub him at the same time. Not only was Abe left standing in the Great Hall of the People while he waited for Xi’s entrance (in a complete reversal of normal protocol), but when the two leaders actually did meet, Abe extended his hand in a friendly gesture, smiled and said a few words. This was barely reciprocated. Xi just shook Abe’s hand, said nothing and turned away. This simple gesture displayed a remarkable lack of hospitality towards a state guest who was clearly treated with disdain, as a Japanese Foreign Ministry official put it.’

    The Diplomat

  47. Walrus permalink
    November 18, 2014 5:30 pm

    “…….It’s nice to actually be appreciated for a change, unlike those mindless pricks like egg, walrus and Neil………”

    You are sooooooooooooo lucky I dont have feelings

    As far as egg and NoS are concerned https://www.lifeline.org.au/

  48. egg permalink
    November 18, 2014 6:12 pm

    chuckle

  49. November 18, 2014 6:15 pm

    On the news just now…

    “Tony Abbott is enjoying walking world leaders through his festival of flags”

    Just as well it’s not Mardi Gras…

  50. TB Queensland permalink
    November 18, 2014 6:27 pm

    “Tony Abbott is enjoying walking world leaders through his festival of flags”

    He’s just as likely to point to the Kiwi flag and say … “that’s ours there” …

  51. November 18, 2014 6:34 pm

    That’s ok Neil. It’s called “thinking.”
    It can hurt a bit if you’re not used to it.
    I get the same sensation when I drink frozen margaritas too quickly.

    ROTFL.. I love this place 🙂

  52. November 18, 2014 8:36 pm

  53. Tom R permalink
    November 19, 2014 8:11 am

    grog has a good piece up explaining how efficient our IR system actually is.

    Given the current weak employment growth and rising unemployment, it displayed that the current IR system works exactly as an efficient IR system should
    ……….
    But over the past three years – under the Fair Work Act – for the first time since the wage price index has been calculated, labour productivity has actually grown faster than wages. This is pretty much your aim when you are devising a flexible and efficient IR system:

    http://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2014/nov/18/slow-wage-rises-show-australias-industrial-relations-system-is-working

    Yet still, it MUST be changed! 😯

  54. November 19, 2014 8:37 am

    “”Yet still, it MUST be changed!””

    Well obviously. The plebs are STILL earning over $2 and hour…. 😯

  55. Tom R permalink
    November 19, 2014 9:13 am

    The plebs are STILL earning over $2 and hour

    Good point. There is still work to be done then

  56. Tom R permalink
    November 19, 2014 9:24 am

    Looks like Whyalla WILL be wiped of the map

    Agriculture Minister Barnaby Joyce has conceded Australian food prices will rise as a result of the nation’s freshly inked free trade agreement with China.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/food-prices-will-rise-under-china-trade-deal-barnaby-joyce-admits-20141118-11p3o7.html

    The FuckedTradeAgreement with China will be a python squeeze!

    If it goes ahead…..

  57. Walrus permalink
    November 19, 2014 9:43 am

    “”Well obviously. The plebs are STILL earning over $2 and hour””

    Hopefully the FTA will fix that up

  58. Tom R permalink
    November 19, 2014 9:46 am

    Hopefully the FTA will fix that up

    It’s looking “positive(?)” in that respect wally 😉

  59. egg permalink
    November 19, 2014 9:56 am

    ‘The FuckedTradeAgreement with China will be a python squeeze!’

    Speaking for the farmers and graziers, its a win win.

  60. TB Queensland permalink
    November 19, 2014 10:30 am

    Gas prices have skyrocketed with sales overseas … why shouldn’t everything else … it just matches the price gouging of overseas companies selling here!

    Screwed by others and screwed by our own …

    Speaking for the farmers and graziers, its a win win.

    Shouldn’t it be a win-win for all Australians not just a favoured few?

    The farm is literally being sold out from under us …

    Had to laugh at the Indian PM when he said … “and Australia is so full of energy” … yep the nuclear kind … actually he meant fuel …

  61. TB Queensland permalink
    November 19, 2014 10:33 am

    Hopefully the FTA will fix that up

    And why would you be hopeful about that, Wally … ?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Something else just dawned on me … its the people on low and/or fixed incomes who will once again suffer the brunt of this FTA …

    Nothing changes … Robber Barons at work … (thanks for reminding me, Wally)

  62. November 19, 2014 10:37 am

    Oh dear, yet another body blow for the Abbott govt… How many more can they take….??

    http://www.theage.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/fofa-changes-in-tatters-in-body-blow-to-abbott-government-20141119-11piah.html

  63. November 19, 2014 10:39 am

  64. Walrus permalink
    November 19, 2014 11:19 am

    “”Nothing changes … Robber Barons at work …””

    Says he as he thieves downloads from the web.

    Spoken like a true hypocrite

  65. Walrus permalink
    November 19, 2014 11:23 am

    “”Gas prices have skyrocketed with sales overseas “”

    Yes I’m so glad the World is moving away from fossil fuels…………ROFLMAO

    Why don’t you stick some more of those sun dial solar thingys on your roof or…………………………

    Solution : Buy some Santos or Woodside Petroleum shares

  66. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 19, 2014 11:38 am

    “Gas prices have skyrocketed with sales overseas

    Yes. According to ALP/Greens we should not be using gas or coal because this will destroy the planet.

    We have to use windmills, solar, wave , tidal and anything other than evil fossil fuels.

    But i am suspicious of the FTA with China. I think the Chinese will always outsmart us.

  67. egg permalink
    November 19, 2014 11:49 am

    ‘Shouldn’t it be a win-win for all Australians not just a favoured few?’

    Its been out of balance for a long time, the poor buggers have been dudded by coles and woolies, its about time we recognize the true value of the man on the land.

    ‘The farm is literally being sold out from under us … ‘

    Mainly in Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane, not too much in the bush.

  68. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 19, 2014 11:56 am

    By the way i have not been over to AIMN for several months. I tried to make a comment but it did not post. I tried again but the same thing happened.

    It looks like i have been banned. Just reaffirms my belief that Labor supporters are natural totalitarians.

  69. egg permalink
    November 19, 2014 11:57 am

    ‘I think the Chinese will always outsmart us.’

    They genuinely only want the world to benefit from their wealth, Xi is a benevolent dictator.

  70. egg permalink
    November 19, 2014 12:02 pm

    ‘Just reaffirms my belief that Labor supporters are natural totalitarians.’

    Once again. its important to recognise the difference between old Labor members and the PLS who have infiltrated and caused resentment.

  71. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 19, 2014 12:14 pm

    “They genuinely only want the world to benefit from their wealth”

    Come on Egg. Humans only do things from self interest.

  72. Tom R permalink
    November 19, 2014 1:03 pm

    This has to be an Onion site, really

    Otherwise, fark only knows why they’re on the nose

    http://www.change.org/p/chairman-james-spigelman-ac-qc-and-the-board-of-the-australian-broadcasting-corporation-abc-the-abc-must-not-close-its-production-house-in-adelaide

  73. TB Queensland permalink
    November 19, 2014 1:13 pm

    Almost a year later, the proposals have been savagely criticised by consumer groups as a series of financial planning scandals, including the Commonwealth Bank, Macquarie Private Wealth, Timbercorp and the life insurance industry, caused a crisis in confidence in the financial planning sector.

    Actions speak louder than words … dilute the FOFA and The Robber Barons will continue to steal … off the peasants …

    Says he as he thieves downloads from the web. Spoken like a true, Wannabe …

    You’ve been told often enough that I buy the bloody things when they are made available … guess what? Season 4 of GOT in BD won’t be available till early next year … I’m looking at seasons 123 right now … if The robber Barons want to think they make more profit that way they are sadly mistaken … poor marketing model as has been pointed by none other than the Minister for Communication, Mr M Turnbull!

    Yes I’m so glad the World is moving away from fossil fuels…………ROFLMAO

    Natural gas is a fossil fuel formed when layers of buried plants, gases, and animals are exposed to intense heat and pressure over thousands of years. The energy that the plants originally obtained from the sun is stored in the form of chemical bonds in natural gas. Natural gas is a nonrenewable resource because it cannot be replenished on a human time frame.[2] Natural gas is a hydrocarbon gas mixture consisting primarily of methane, but commonly includes varying amounts of other higher alkanes and even a lesser percentage of carbon dioxide, nitrogen, and hydrogen sulfide.

    Why don’t you stick some more of those sun dial solar thingys on your roof or…………………………

    That’s about yer sum total of understanding …

    Solution : Buy some Santos or Woodside Petroleum shares

    LOL! See above … typical “make money fuck everyone else wannabe, Robber Baron” … can’t innovate … just expectorates on anyone who can … gas’ll run out, yer, Wally, solar will be here for how long …

  74. Meta permalink
    November 19, 2014 1:31 pm

    (Speaking of marketing models and energy inputs-outputs, wouldn’t it be neat if we managed to consume hundreds of millions of years’ worth of complex chemical( bond)s in mere centuries, by thinking about them simply as fossil fuels; and not as the irreplaceable products of unreproducable chemical factories, with myriad present-actual and future-potential uses beyond tossing them on the bonfire.)

  75. TB Queensland permalink
    November 19, 2014 1:33 pm

    TR, that’s a bit of some satire surely?

    If that is genuine then this Federal LNP Cabinet needs to start talking to each other .. then the Parliamentary Party members then the rest of us …

    Ludicrous …

  76. TB Queensland permalink
    November 19, 2014 1:37 pm

    Meta … you’ll be pleased to know then, that some oil is used for plastic production … but not much … burn, burn, burn!

    http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=34&t=6

  77. Tom R permalink
    November 19, 2014 1:38 pm

    Ludicrous

    Aye

    with myriad present-actual and future-potential uses beyond tossing them on the bonfire.

    Ar

  78. egg permalink
    November 19, 2014 2:24 pm

    ‘Humans only do things from self interest.’

    Xi is practicing enlightened self interest based on Confucian ideas, presumably.

  79. Meta permalink
    November 19, 2014 2:50 pm

    (It’s all good, Neil; when Andrew Robb extols the fact that Australian fresh milk is fetching up to $9 a litre in Beijing; and when Tony Abbott explains to Alan Jones that megafarmers will only be doing what free-marketeers do when voluntarily selling the family farm and/or its produce to the highest bidder; you may rest assured that the costaliving for average innacity-leet latte-guzzlers can only be improved by a FTA; under a government which freely acknowledges as ridiculous the idea of Australia’s being, and being able to be, the Foodbowl of Asia; because unmet demand so, so, so far outstrips capacity to supply; but we can, will, and do try.

    Nevertheless, it’s perhaps best to wait for the formal modelling, reportedly yet to be undertaken, before making any declarative announcements about how very much are the huge benefits which Australians will derive; and, in the interim, while you and I await your and my government doing and releasing some due diligence documents to the public, we might, perhaps, consider a recent David Rowe cartoon from the AFR, to keep ourselves amused.)

  80. TB Queensland permalink
    November 19, 2014 3:33 pm

    This looks good to me … “The Coalition of Common Sense” (sic) 🙄

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/xenophon-heads-team-of-pup-rebels-and-others-cross-benchers/story-fn84fgcm-1227128299857

    Ah, well … if it works who cares what they call themselves …

  81. Tom R permalink
    November 19, 2014 3:34 pm

    releasing some due diligence documents to the public

    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

    But will it be in the form of a #ginapoem?

  82. TB Queensland permalink
    November 19, 2014 3:38 pm

    ‘Humans only do things from self interest.’

    Yeah, that’s why three of us got out of our cars at a busy intersection yesterday … to help push a stalled P platers car off the road … I was going in the opposite direct …

    You egg and Kneel believe that (and I suspect a couple of others here) … I for one try to do at least one good turn a day for someone else …

    Selfish Fuckwits© …

  83. Walrus permalink
    November 19, 2014 3:43 pm

    “”Yeah, that’s why three of us got out of our cars at a busy intersection yesterday … to help push a stalled P platers car off the road … “”

    Straight into a ditch I bet

  84. Walrus permalink
    November 19, 2014 3:48 pm

    OK you can take your feeble shots at us beancounters but I cannot believe as was revealed today that the ABC does not have a Chief Financial Officer.

    $1 Billion per annum and no one oversees how the money is spent let alone wisely or corruptly.

    No wonder they spent an extra $1.5million outbidding SBS for the Asian Cup (which I must say not even News Limited has picked up on from what I can see)

    Yup……………….$1.5 million to outbid another taxpayer funded broadcaster.

    What a fucking waste of money.

  85. Walrus permalink
    November 19, 2014 3:54 pm

    Why did you give us all a lesson on Natural Gas being a fossil fuel when I already know that ?

  86. Walrus permalink
    November 19, 2014 3:56 pm

    “”You’ve been told often enough that I buy the bloody things when they are made available “”

    Yeah and I’m going to walk into a bank today and rob it but my last words as I run out the door will be……..

    “”Don’t worry I’ll return the money as soon as some of my clients pay me””

    That would be a crap excuse just like yours is.

  87. TB Queensland permalink
    November 19, 2014 4:49 pm

    Yeah and I’m going to walk into a bank today and rob it but my last words as I run out the door will be……..

    People BORROW from banks and pay them back …

    If they close the doors people can’t pay them back …

    As for this …

    That would be a crap excuse just like yours is.

    Its not an excuse … its a reason … your Mr Turnbull actually agrees …

    Speaking to ABC Radio, Mr Turnbull said internet piracy has become a “big issue” and a “massive problem” for the creative industries. But he isn’t blaming consumers entirely. Mr Turnbull said content owners also need to take responsibility by lowering the prices of their products if they wanted to “discourage piracy”.

    “There is an obligation on the content owners, if their concerns are to be taken seriously and they are by government, and if governments are to take action to help them prevent piracy, then they’ve got to play their part which is to make their content available universally and affordably.”

    For example, a quick search on the iTunes store shows that the movies Noah, Lego Movie, and The Other Woman cost $19.99 each in the US, while in Australia they cost $24.99.

    “If you want to discourage piracy, the best thing you can do… is to make your content available globally, universally and affordably,” he said. “Content owners… have got to justify why they are charging more to Australians. They’ve got to make their case too.”

    AND …

    https://www.jbhifi.com.au/movies-tv-shows/movies-tv-shows-on-sale/tv-fantasy/game-of-thrones-season-4/611099/

    And when I CAN … I’ll buy the fkn thing!

    … either way they will get paid … they seem to want to wait … not me.

    Your the only one blubbering …

  88. November 19, 2014 5:18 pm

    “”Your the only one blubbering …””

    As usual.

    PS:

    (I think you mean “you’re”)

  89. Tom R permalink
    November 19, 2014 5:26 pm

    you can take your feeble shots at us beancounters

    OK

  90. Walrus permalink
    November 19, 2014 5:29 pm

    So how come its illegal if its not stealing ?

  91. TB Queensland permalink
    November 19, 2014 5:48 pm

    So how come its illegal if its not stealing ?

    For the same reason the shite you do is legal … just someone’s opinion …

    Thanks sreb … I’ll keep it in mind in future … 😈

  92. Tom R permalink
    November 19, 2014 6:19 pm

    On the internets, it is just “yor”, which covers any interpretation/meaning/intent

    (I’m trying to start a fad 😉 )

  93. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 19, 2014 8:04 pm

    “You’re”

    It’s time to have some bad grammar banning

  94. November 19, 2014 8:08 pm

    “Barnaby is happy, the farmers and graziers will claw back a decent return at the expense of city folk. Its a postmodern agrarian revolution.”

    The BIG farmers. Not ‘farmers’.

    They will (continue to) subsume the family farm & absorb any profits.

    Farm hands, and ‘farmers’ who’ve conventionally ‘farmed’, y’know the fuckers who actually get their hands dirty, will get shafted.
    Business will employ labour on farms, not ‘farmers’.

    dumbasdogshit

  95. November 19, 2014 8:09 pm

    “So how come its illegal if its not stealing ?”

    It’s in the eye of the beholder.

  96. November 19, 2014 8:16 pm

    If it’s against the law, it’s illegal. Some people disobey laws they disagree with, knowing that there are consequences if they are caught. It’s a calculated risk, which can have its own rewards.

  97. November 19, 2014 8:20 pm

    I may occasionally partake of substances which are deemed by our moral and intellectual betters to be illegal. I fully understand the consequences if the law enfocement community wants to clamp down on what I do in my own home to my own body.

    I’m happy to take that risk.

  98. Tom R permalink
    November 19, 2014 8:37 pm

    what I do in my own home to my own body.

    I’m happy to take that risk.

    Yes, but did you have to paint that image!

    Bloody Poets 😉

  99. egg permalink
    November 20, 2014 7:42 am

    😉

  100. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 20, 2014 9:52 am

    I’m not bothered about cuts to the ABC**.

    Listening to ABC reporters and commentators talk about themselves, there’s a sense of privilege and job security that doesn’t exist in the rest of the economy. It’s the ABC making a living by talking about the ABC.

    Looking at the organisation, there are plenty of overheads and professional meeting attenders that can be cut.

    COMMUNICATIONS Minister Malcolm Turnbull wants ABC managing director Mark Scott stripped of his role as editorial ¬director and has outlined more than $300 million in cuts to the nation’s two public broadcasters.
    It is expected that at least 400 jobs will be lost at the ABC, mainly from “operational efficiencies” to be determined by its management and board.
    In total, the cuts represented $254m in savings over five years at the ABC and $53.7m at SBS over the same timeframe.
    Mr Turnbull also used the long-awaited announcement to urge ABC board members to take responsibility for objectivity and editorial ¬balance and, if they felt incapable of doing so, to resign.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/broadcast/mark-scott-the-big-loser-as-axe-strikes-abc/story-fna045gd-1227128908635

    **Abbott was a dickhead for ever committing not to take an axe to the ABC.

  101. November 20, 2014 9:58 am

    Malcolm Turnbull yesterday:

    “Yes, well there are cuts (to the ABC and SBS)…”

    Mathias Cormann this morning:

    “They’re not cuts.”

  102. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 20, 2014 10:01 am

    Cormann left out the ‘n’

  103. Tom R permalink
    November 20, 2014 10:10 am

    It’s the ABC making a living by talking about the ABC

    Funny, I watched it on channel 7

    Are the reporters there as ‘privileged’ as ‘consultants’ hired by big companies to work out ways to rip off workers?

    This also is a case of saving a dime but costing a fortune (or whatever that saying is)

    The Abbott government is creating “a fourth free-to-air network by stealth” after it proposed doubling the amount of advertising on the SBS, Ten Network boss Hamish McLennan says.

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/media-and-marketing/stealth-attack-rival-tv-chiefs-livid-over-sbs-changes-20141119-11pvvw.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nc&eid=socialn%3Atwi-13omn1677-edtrl-other%3Annn-17%2F02%2F2014-edtrs_socialshare-all-nnn-nnn-vars-o%26sa%3DD%26usg%3DALhdy28zsr6qiq

    As I said earlier, there is no forward thinking at all with grubmint, They came in with appears to be the one aim of cutting anything their ideology does not like, and to hell with the consequence.

    In fact, in many ways, they resemble a ‘privileged consultant’ hired by a big company to work out ways to rip off those not in their box of winners?

  104. Tom R permalink
    November 20, 2014 10:15 am

    Cormann left out the ‘n’

    Why would he call them ‘grubs’?

  105. November 20, 2014 10:32 am

    The Government is looking pretty fucking stupid over this defence of the indefensible….
    When is a cut not a cut? when its spun as a budgetary efficiency,,,

    Weasel words from a dysfunctional, incompetent , lying government who are as unworthy as they are credible…

    They can spin this all they like but they cannot recover from this with a slogan….

    Apparently Jackie Lambie is leading a coalition of common-sense… fuck me.. good luck with that.

  106. egg permalink
    November 20, 2014 10:34 am

    Government is being cheeky calling them savings and not cuts.

  107. November 20, 2014 10:40 am

    Apparently Jacqui Lambie, and Ricky Muir is leading a coalition of common-sense… ROTFPML.. Now lets just take a breath to take that idea in….”common sense” Yeah good luck with that 🙂 (you know when you’re laughing so hard shit is coming out of my eyes) The feral Bogan senator with .09 of 1% of the electorate is wielding power in our very broken democracy

    ..http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-19/labor-greens-crossbench-senators-unite-in-bid-to-overturn-fofa/5902312

  108. egg permalink
    November 20, 2014 10:41 am

    ‘When ABC staff look around them, for example, it surely would not escape their attention that conservatives are somewhat thin on the ground. It must feel a little odd to work in a building where hardly anybody admits to voting for Tony Abbott. They must realise, surely, that many of their listeners and viewers (and an increasing number of ex-listeners and ex-viewers) see the world in a different light, and that they cannot all be stupid.’

    Nick Cater

  109. Meta permalink
    November 20, 2014 10:50 am

    (So, first we appoint some conflict-of-interest-free cultural warriors to the entity which selects board members; then we subtly intimate that existing board members, some more than others, should resign; and, as our contribution to ‘objectivity’, we have also preprepared some ‘suggestions’ for how new/old board members will exercise their ‘independent’ duties; off the back of a blatant, fundamental breach of an unambiguous promise-cum-contractual-term to the Australian people not to block supply to a public statutory corporation; for all of which behaviour we take no responsibility? Nice.)

  110. Tom R permalink
    November 20, 2014 11:01 am

    some conflict-of-interest-free cultural warriors

    None of whom “admits to voting for Tony Abbott” 😆

  111. Tom R permalink
    November 20, 2014 11:05 am

    A fantastic analysis of what yabot said to world leaders, and, more importantly, how that differs to what is said to us

    Weird and graceless. Shorten’s description of Abbott’s G20 address to world leaders was spot on. We all know that Abbott doesn’t perform well at public speaking. And we never expected him to say anything inspiring, intelligent or even informative at the G20. It’s not like he was going to admit he’d been wrong about climate policy and could Obama and Xi Jinping please help him to fix his faults. No, what we expected was for him to be uninspiring, unintelligent, and to say not much at all. Like he usually does. Because let’s face it, we’re used to three word slogans repeated slowly, spread out amongst ahh, err, arh, urms ad nauseam. But that’s not what we got from Abbott yesterday. Surprisingly, we got worse than this. Which is why it’s worth taking a closer look at what he actually did say.

    http://victoriarollison.com/2014/11/16/what-abbott-actually-said/

    The kind of analysis our msm miss repeatedly. eg

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought Pyne’s argument was that deregulation of university fees would make fees less expensive?

    I was also frustrated that Abbott forgot to mention that his great-big-GP-tax was not actually going to be used to fund a budget surplus. It was being used for a $20 billion research fund

    ……….

    It’s all our fault that Abbott can’t balance his books!

    It exposes the completely vacuous and total inconsistent approach this grubmint has taken to almost everything to date.

  112. November 20, 2014 11:17 am

    Hello reb, I’m getting an email every time someone comments, only on this thread. I may have accidentally ticked the box allowing it, but can’t work out how to untick it.

    Please make it stop. 😉

  113. Tom R permalink
    November 20, 2014 11:21 am

    Please make it stop.

    So …. you are “ticked Off” 😉

  114. Tom R permalink
    November 20, 2014 11:22 am

    I probably should apologise for that previous post
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    but I won’t

  115. TB Queensland permalink
    November 20, 2014 11:25 am

    I’m getting an email every time someone comments, only on this thread.

    Hheheheh …

  116. TB Queensland permalink
    November 20, 2014 11:25 am

    I’m getting an email every time someone comments, only on this thread.

    Hheheheh …

  117. TB Queensland permalink
    November 20, 2014 11:26 am

    I’m getting an email every time someone comments, only on this thread.

    LOL! …

  118. November 20, 2014 11:31 am

    Please

  119. November 20, 2014 11:31 am

    Make

  120. November 20, 2014 11:32 am

    it

  121. November 20, 2014 11:32 am

    stop

  122. November 20, 2014 11:32 am

    lol

  123. Meta permalink
    November 20, 2014 11:38 am

    (Also, how can, “It’s all our fault that Abbott can’t balance his books!”, possibly be true when The Plan clearly was that all promises detailed therein were fully-costed and fully-budgeted and verified by either the Charter of Budget Honesty or the Parliamentary Budget Office and received further rigorous testing after a detailed statement on policies funding and, by corollary, policies was published in good time before the next election?)

  124. Tom R permalink
    November 20, 2014 11:49 am

    Absolute classic

  125. November 20, 2014 11:51 am

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.

    Emailanche!

  126. TB Queensland permalink
    November 20, 2014 12:00 pm

    Sorry, ToSY … ROTFLMAO … !!!

    WTF did your expect? 🙂 🙂

  127. November 20, 2014 12:01 pm

    I would have expected nothing less. 🙂

  128. TB Queensland permalink
    November 20, 2014 12:03 pm

    TR, that cartoon says it ALL … flip/flop/flip … no two ministers say the same thing …

    The only thing worse would be Prime Minister Morrison …

    Now I know how the cavalier royalists must have felt with Olive Cromwell running the show … and I’m a fkn Republican!

  129. TB Queensland permalink
    November 20, 2014 12:06 pm

    I would have expected nothing less.

    Humour the stuff that binds the trash … 😉

  130. November 20, 2014 12:23 pm

  131. November 20, 2014 12:24 pm

    When is a cut not a cut? When it’s a lie spun as an efficiency dividend
    #defendingtheindefensible

  132. November 20, 2014 12:33 pm

  133. egg permalink
    November 20, 2014 12:47 pm

    ‘…after a detailed statement on policies funding and, by corollary, policies was published in good time before the next election?’

    Never trust a politician, they have a tendency to exaggerate and tell outright fibs to achieve the desired outcome. Fortunately for the Conservatives they have two years before the next election. Then they will say the savings made were essential and get away with it.

  134. November 20, 2014 12:51 pm

    Sorry ToSY

  135. November 20, 2014 12:51 pm

    I

  136. November 20, 2014 12:51 pm

    Can’t

  137. November 20, 2014 12:52 pm

    Help.

  138. November 20, 2014 1:01 pm

    All right then. I’ll block Trash emails from my end. There are only so many pixels on the internet, you know. Mustn’t waste them.

  139. Meta permalink
    November 20, 2014 1:01 pm

    (Speaking of successors to Vogon poetry, Our Future apparently is proceeding apace.)

  140. egg permalink
    November 20, 2014 1:27 pm

    ‘….but said he had no other choice after the federal government announced it would withdraw its two-thirds share of the funding of power, water and services from the communities, and hand control over to the state from July next year.’

    Bollocks, its the richest state in the commonwealth and should support the 1300 citizens the Federals are defunding.

  141. egg permalink
    November 20, 2014 2:04 pm

    The Ministry of Troof

    ‘It is estimated that 71% of Australians access the ABC’s television, radio and online services, with approximately 6 million unique visits to ABC online properties each week. Interestingly, the ABC also attracts 498,900 active users of the ABC flagship app each month. The online audience is significantly growing, based on the ABC’s Webtrends data, that recorded a shift from 5 million unique visits at July 2013.’

    The Conversation

  142. November 20, 2014 2:55 pm

    You know as much as I could not stand a bar of Latham the Polly… I love his writing. He is an articulate provocatore,,,
    He has the leftist feminist going banshee with this one…. I love it

    http://www.afr.com/p/opinion/why_left_feminists_don_like_kids_zCbYWk9GxhdiLHnYdE3fsM

    Egg you are a pointless pillock.. yes the ABC is both popular and the most technologically advanced mult iplatform media network in Australia if not the world.

    Maybe Reb should ban all your posts that have no lucid point…

  143. November 20, 2014 3:12 pm

    “”Maybe Reb should ban all your posts that have no lucid point…”””

    There wouldn’t be any leftover….. 😯

  144. November 20, 2014 3:16 pm

  145. Walrus permalink
    November 20, 2014 4:01 pm

    Jacqui Lambie makes Pauline Hanson seem statesman like

  146. Walrus permalink
    November 20, 2014 4:08 pm

    “”The online audience is significantly growing, based on the ABC’s Webtrends data, that recorded a shift from 5 million unique visits at July 2013.’””

    Not sure what that’s based upon but this is the latest online survey I could find

    http://www.nielsen.com/content/corporate/au/en/insights/news/2014/todays-top-headlines-8-9million-australians-go-online-for-their-daily-news.html

  147. Walrus permalink
    November 20, 2014 4:11 pm

    Oh my Dog…………………..cuts to the ABC ?????????????????

    There go the dog collar wearing, bicycle riding, inner city, latte sipping Green votes……………!

  148. TB Queensland permalink
    November 20, 2014 4:19 pm

    There wouldn’t be any leftover…..

    That should be “left over” …

    Just sayin’ …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Jacqui Lambie makes Pauline Hanson seem statesman like

    Didn’t know Hanson had a sex change …

    … anyway we’ll find out soon … with the buffoons trying to run the country at present, people are bound to vote for Hanson again …

    … then The Abbott & The Acolytes in the Canberra Monastery will have a panic attack … watch for the triple somersault with a half hitch, followed by a double flip flop …

    … the LNP will then start up a slush fund to get rid of both of ’em … get ’em arrested on trumped up charges and into jail … easy its been done before and The Abbott has form …

  149. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 20, 2014 4:26 pm

    How funny is this disintegration of PUP…

    We have a delusional rich guy, one of his managers, a punch drunk former NRL player and a loud mouth bogan, all having a disorderly brawl!

    ‘Go Clivey’

  150. Walrus permalink
    November 20, 2014 4:31 pm

    “”How funny is this disintegration of PUP…””

    Wait until Clive’s Chinese court case hits the court room.

    He has a rather MAJOR problem with the nickel price as well. There is no way he’d be making money out of nickel at the moment. He’s way too far up the cost curve on nickel.

    I’d say he’s sinking fast.

  151. TB Queensland permalink
    November 20, 2014 4:37 pm

    Clivey’s just discovering how karma actually works … he’s worse than The Abbott for lying and deception …

    Go Clivey! PLEASE!

  152. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 20, 2014 4:42 pm

    Jacki Lambi is from Tasmania.

    Clive Palmer is from Queensland.

    No further explanation is needed really.

  153. November 20, 2014 4:53 pm

    That should be “left over” …

    🙂

  154. November 20, 2014 4:53 pm

    and Christopher Pyne is from South Australia

  155. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 20, 2014 5:14 pm

    ” with the buffoons trying to run the country at present

    Typical ALP comment. Hand the incoming Coalition govt a trashed budget and then call them stupid because they do not fix the problem in 2 years.

    I suspect the ALP has created a runaway debt train which most probably cannot be stopped.

  156. TB Queensland permalink
    November 20, 2014 5:19 pm

    Typical …

    Why? Because even though Netfix commissioned the shows in the United States, their Australian rights are owned by Foxtel (partly owned by News Corp Australia, the publisher of news.com.au). It’s not just these shows either that will be effected by this, with new Australian streaming service Stan claiming the exclusive rights to Breaking Bad spin-off Better Call Saul.

    If you think that you can simply continue to use your US Netflix account just as you are now once it launches here, think again. It’s no secretNetflix makes it easy for international users to use a work-around to access the service. Once it launches locally, however, the company will want local users to access the Australian content, rather than US, much the same way it does in the UK.

    http://www.news.com.au/technology/home-entertainment/netflix-in-australia-will-create-an-even-more-fragmented-market/story-fn8tnfhb-1227129617272

  157. TB Queensland permalink
    November 20, 2014 5:20 pm

    And The Abbott is from the UK …

  158. November 20, 2014 5:47 pm

    “It’s not just these shows either that will be effected by this”

    I think that should be ‘affected’ (not to mention the lack of commas before and after ‘either’). No sub-editors for online stories, perhaps?

    #grammarpolice

  159. egg permalink
    November 20, 2014 6:13 pm

    ‘Egg you are a pointless pillock.. yes the ABC is both popular and the most technologically advanced mult iplatform media network in Australia if not the world.’

    In the old days at Gore Hill most of the staff were North Shore types who voted Liberal, now its totally in the hands of the PLS.

  160. November 20, 2014 6:21 pm

  161. November 20, 2014 6:34 pm

    Typical ALP comment. Hand the incoming Coalition govt a trashed budget and then call them stupid because they do not fix the problem in 2 years.
    I suspect the ALP has created a runaway debt train which most probably cannot be stopped.

    Squeal is getting LAzy we’ve only heard that one 3000 times….

    I think Squeal is the Jacqui Lambie of the Blogashere..

    Jacqui Lambie makes Pauline Hanson seem statesman like

    Bookend Bogans in the arrogation of the ignorant

  162. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 21, 2014 9:51 am

    FOREIGN Affairs Minister Julie Bishop has taken the unusual step of criticising the most powerful man in the world.
    Tonight, Ms Bishop confirmed the Queensland government was displeased with President Barack Obama for comments made during a speech at last week’s G20 Summit.
    Appearing on ABC’s 7:30 program from New York, where she is meeting with the United Nations Security Council, Ms Bishop told host Leigh Sales there was an “issue” concerning President Obama’s climate change speech.

    I really don’t understand why this is controversial. If a foreign politician comes here and discusses domestic issues, it’s fine to have a minor crack back at them.

    You can imagine the outrage if Putin had reflected on a domestic issue. Obama got politically involved so there is a political response. Fair enough.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/julie-bishop-criticises-president-barack-obama-on-abc-730-program/story-fncynjr2-1227130069369

  163. TB Queensland permalink
    November 21, 2014 10:07 am

    ToM,

    from the same article …

    The expansion of a coal port at Abbot Point — the most northerly deepwater coal port in Australia — is causing so much controversy that Federal Liberal MP for Dawson, George Christensen, withdrew his support for the dumping of dredge spoil in August, announcing “I got it wrong”, in an advertisement in the Whitsunday Coast Guardian.

    The risks to the reef from port development and associated dredging has even prompted the United National Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (UNESCO) to express “concern” and “regret” at the Federal Government’s approval of the project, news.com.au reported at the time.

    Yet tonight Ms Bishop claimed the government was “demonstrating the world’s best practice in working with the World Heritage Committee to ensure that the Great Barrier Reef is preserved for generation to come”.

    I guess Mexicans don’t have much worth “protecting” … it would be intellectually difficult to understand … have you ever visited the GB reef?

    … and why not take the opportunity to piss of the US of A … China would love that … thanks Julie …

    Based on the “story so far” … I’d back Obama’s version over The Abbott and Noddy Newman any day!

  164. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 21, 2014 11:12 am

    … have you ever visited the GB reef?

    Only about 6 or 8 times.
    —————–
    … and why not take the opportunity to piss of the US of A …

    Why on earth would we brown nose to Obama? He’s not even supported in his own country now!

    …and since when did you get concerned about what the USA thinks?
    ————–
    …and I preferred Obama over the fake tan, hair dyed smarmy Republican he was against.

    But if Obama chooses to intervene in domestic politics, he can experience a polite reply.

  165. TB Queensland permalink
    November 21, 2014 11:18 am

    People who live in ivory towers need to get out more …

    MYER chairman Paul McClintock has again taken a swipe at GST laws, saying they are unfair and harming trade.

    MR McClintock said Australian governments must work harder to create the right conditions for business to thrive, including consistent laws.
    “Currently, retailers are having to face several major inconsistencies which harm trade,” he told the retailer’s annual general meeting in Melbourne on Friday.
    “The first, which I have raised repeatedly, is the continuing unfair exemption for overseas companies on the Goods and Services Tax (GST) on delivery of items of what is misleadingly called lower value.”
    He said Myer collected more than $300 million in GST from its customers in the past financial year, paid income tax of over $49 million and payroll tax of over $20 million, while offshore retailers selling into Australia paid none of this.
    “It is important that this loophole is closed,” he said.
    “The retail industry has argued strongly that the GST exemption issue must be on the agendas of federal and state governments, but action has still not been taken.”

    Wonder if this twit has ever googled Myers products and compared prices even with10% added … Fuckwit©

  166. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 21, 2014 11:19 am

    “Why on earth would we brown nose to Obama? “

    You would have to ask Gillard and the ALP

    https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRAmb1mQP5AKIXpdVg-vpmnIhrQLfu8L–O3wDU0uJYutiQ_2nK9g

  167. TB Queensland permalink
    November 21, 2014 11:19 am

    In fact I wonder if Mr McLintock knows how to operate a fkn computer?

  168. TB Queensland permalink
    November 21, 2014 11:23 am

    Only about 6 or 8 times.

    Ever visited any other reefs? (I have BTW)

    …and since when did you get concerned about what the USA thinks?

    Only when they are right … and it affects my country …

    But if Obama chooses to intervene in domestic politics, he can experience a polite reply.

    Bugger me, and here I was thinking that the GB Reef was World Heritage Listed … World is a bit of a clue that its not a domestic issue …

  169. Walrus permalink
    November 21, 2014 11:29 am

    “In fact I wonder if Mr McLintock knows how to operate a fkn computer?””

    Why are you offering to build him one of your homebuilt ones,……………… you know the ones you reckon could work in an F35 ?

  170. Walrus permalink
    November 21, 2014 11:31 am

    And what do you care about Myers ?

    You steal all your stuff……………that’s what thieves like you do………………..but you then claim some sort of weird moral high ground with your stupid slogan

  171. November 21, 2014 11:43 am

    “that’s what thieves like you do”

    Unlike accountants who help rich people avoid paying tax through ethically questionable practices….

    Nothing dodgy about that at all….

    No siree…

  172. TB Queensland permalink
    November 21, 2014 11:50 am

    You steal all your stuff …

    You got a link for that?

  173. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 21, 2014 12:03 pm

    Here is another one

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZN3Iy_WrMjvM1yPoMpXUW5qPdJyAkgYjKHPl8E1GYvdpUhq4j1Q

    What is it with the ALP and Obama?

  174. Walrus permalink
    November 21, 2014 12:06 pm

    “”Nothing dodgy about that at all….””

    Yeah………..but I don’t utter silly hypocritical slogans

  175. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 21, 2014 12:16 pm

    Yeah, all the girly giggling and footy hand-balling of Gillard with Obama was repulsive.

    It’s fine with me if a female politician has a go at him instead of flirting with him.

  176. Tom R permalink
    November 21, 2014 12:48 pm

    Obama got politically involved so there is a political response.

    You really think Obama gives a flying fuck what yabot does locally with politics. Talk about delusioned.

    It was simple, the G19 wanted Climate Change to be discussed, chairthingy thought he was CEO and said no. The real powers simply shoved it up his arse and talked instead about what they wanted. yabot showed himself to be a very ungracious host, telling them to talk about anything they want, then having a hissy when it turned out to be Climate Change

    bishop is just showing she has no more brains or grace than tabot.

    all the girly giggling and footy hand-balling of Gillard with Obama was repulsive.

    poor widdle left out yommy. You really need to learn to move on laddy, just cos It’s Not You 😉

  177. Tom R permalink
    November 21, 2014 12:52 pm

    Yeah………..but I don’t utter silly hypocritical slogans

    ROFL

    that’s what thieves like you do

    😯

  178. Tom R permalink
    November 21, 2014 12:54 pm

    What is it with the ALP and Obama?

    Well, they both favour universal health care, which is proven to be far superior to the pay as you go variety.

  179. Meta permalink
    November 21, 2014 12:59 pm

    (I thought George Christensen MP was busy professing his faith in an omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent God and Her ability to provide a convenient distraction: Halal products may be funding Islamist extremism, claims Nationals MP.

    Not that Neil would ever be so easily beguiled; and especially not when there’s the CoW’s FAT ATF FTA numbers AFT to peruse: Why isn’t the government being held to account on the China free trade deal?)

  180. Tom R permalink
    November 21, 2014 1:07 pm

    Why isn’t the government being held to account on the China free trade deal?)

    Is it because we haven’t signed a free trade deal with China perhaps?

  181. egg permalink
    November 21, 2014 1:14 pm

    ‘It’s fine with me if a female politician has a go at him instead of flirting with him.’

    Bishop was a school teacher and the female leftoid school teachers I know reckon ‘she needs a good slap’.

  182. Walrus permalink
    November 21, 2014 1:31 pm

    I actually quite enjoyed Obama’s stand up comedy routine. It showed just how easy it was for the Lefties to swallow his bullshit about his “”ëmissions deal”” with China.

    Pretty hilarious actually.

  183. Walrus permalink
    November 21, 2014 1:31 pm

    “”Bishop was a school teacher and the female leftoid school teachers I know reckon ‘she needs a good slap’.””

    Raises hand !

  184. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 21, 2014 1:34 pm

    “You really think Obama gives a flying fuck what yabot does locally with politics. Talk about delusioned.

    I don’t imagine Obama would be bothered at all by the mild comments of Bishop, that’s the reason I don’t understand what the controversy is about.

    Delusional is when anyone thinks flirting, giggling and handballing a football will improve international relations.

  185. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 21, 2014 1:35 pm

    (I’ve been to the outer reef about 6 times TB)

  186. Meta permalink
    November 21, 2014 2:03 pm

    (So, we don’t understand the controversy, therefore discussing the controversy, which we don’t really think really is a real controversy, is the new (non-)controversy, and something about teaching and handballing? So confusing!)

  187. Tom R permalink
    November 21, 2014 2:05 pm

    I don’t understand what the controversy is about.

    That’s not really surprising yomm 😉

    I’m pretty sure Obama doesn’t give a fuck either, but I’m sure there are a lot of players on the side looking and drawing their conclusions from the way we are acting on the world stage.

    Village Idiot summed it up pretty well 😉

    Unfortunately, bishop just showed that the village is full of them.

  188. Tom R permalink
    November 21, 2014 2:06 pm

    You’re so controversial Meta 😉

  189. Tom R permalink
    November 21, 2014 2:11 pm

    btw Meta, I think grog summed it all up in this paragraph

    Given the price of iron ore has fallen 47% since December and thermal coal prices have gone down 29% in the same period, does anyone really expect this agreement is going to improve our terms of trade?

    But the meeja will spin it as if it has.

  190. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 21, 2014 2:26 pm

    I just happened to have a look at some of the streets around some of the USA world heritage sites. Outrageous & overdeveloped ugliness in the very neighbourhood!!

    But that’s not surprising, it’s the USA and that’s how they seem to prefer their landscape.

    Abbott should point this out to Obama next time they talk.

    (street view is so handy)

  191. egg permalink
    November 21, 2014 2:27 pm

    ‘Unfortunately, bishop just showed that the village is full of them.’

    She’s mooted to become the next PM.

  192. Meta permalink
    November 21, 2014 3:09 pm

    (“She’s mooted to become the next PM.”

    But does she ‘understand’ that a virtual tourist ‘might’ consult Google Earth to ‘overlook’ a ‘domestic issue’ about a UNESCO-listed ‘world’ heritage site when referring to a ‘world’-class work of nature, as a ‘local’ example, in relation to a ‘global issue’ otherwise being ‘overlooked’ (un)controversially? I ‘imagine’ she ‘might’; particularly, if that virtual tourist had a pronounced interest in matters maritime and wasn’t necessarily signed-up for the bad acid trip package-deal.)

  193. Tom R permalink
    November 21, 2014 3:12 pm

    Outrageous & overdeveloped ugliness in the very neighbourhood

    I know the feeling 😉

  194. Tom R permalink
    November 21, 2014 3:14 pm

    pronounced interest in matters maritime

    They just gotta have the biggest in anything.

    Mind you, add that to favouring universal health care 😉

  195. November 21, 2014 3:40 pm

    Yeah………..but I don’t utter silly hypocritical slogans

    What like no cuts to the ABC and SBS the night before an election?

  196. Meta permalink
    November 21, 2014 3:55 pm

    (Yet more ingratitude: Only 38% of Australia’s Ebola funds have made it to Africa, group claims.)

  197. TB Queensland permalink
    November 21, 2014 4:52 pm

    Yeah………..but I don’t utter silly hypocritical slogans

    Yep … the only “creativeness” we see from you and the CPA* wallas, Wally is shuffling the deck of $$s …

    While other people actually produce stuff …

    Here’s financial creativeness for ya …

    1. 20% tax across the board for everyone/every business … no claims, no returns

    2. Repeal negative gearing

    3. Repeal Family Trusts

    4. Abolish all post pollie perqs …

    Well, I guess that’s enough to get quite a few shiny arses out planting trees for Direct Action …

    Looking forward to your poem in Poet’s Corner … or a recipe, or a painting, or a photo, or a film review … anything creative and positive … even an interesting “original” comment now and then …

    C’mon, Wally! Thrive in society, or just stay alive in an economy! 😉

  198. TB Queensland permalink
    November 21, 2014 5:02 pm

    (I’ve been to the outer reef about 6 times TB)

    No, ToM I meant other countries … I’ve snorkelled in North Africa, the Caribbean and PNG … and of course the GB Reef …

    Our tourist areas for the reef are atrocious … of them all I’d have to say, Black Beach and another bay north of Port Moresby (can’t remember its name) were the best.

    Having said that the GBR needs absolute protection … imagine an Exxon Valdez in the Coral Sea? And we know that some ships cheat and try to go through the reef rather than follow the shipping lane …

    The coal mines aren’t really the issue but the dredging waste is …

  199. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 21, 2014 5:32 pm

    TB has apparently been snorkelling in some interesting places!

  200. TB Queensland permalink
    November 21, 2014 6:01 pm

    Bluddy ‘ell, tha’s me on’t moors … I think I’d lost thruppence at the time 🙂

    For the edification of those who have never held a thrupenny bit in their hot little fingers in the sweet shop as a kid …

  201. Walrus permalink
    November 21, 2014 6:33 pm

    “”Looking forward to your poem in Poet’s Corner … or a recipe, or a painting, or a photo, or a film review … anything creative and positive “”

    Mmmmmmmmm……………………….a poem about Blind Trusts in the Cayman Islands perhaps ?

  202. egg permalink
    November 21, 2014 6:40 pm

    ** chuckle

  203. November 21, 2014 6:46 pm

    “a poem about Blind Trusts in the Cayman Islands perhaps ?”

    Could you give us a little poem about the Centrelink changes to pensions that take effect from Jan 1…?*

    (At least TB and any lurkers from the cafe might find that beneficial)…

    * I realise I’m going to regret this.

  204. TB Queensland permalink
    November 21, 2014 7:06 pm

    * I realise I’m going to regret this.

    A COMPETITION! Whoo!

    Not only poetic but knowledge too!

    I’ll do the write thing (hehe) and let the Walrus dribble first … 🙂

  205. TB Queensland permalink
    November 22, 2014 8:07 pm

    Slo-o-o-o–oo-ow …

  206. November 22, 2014 9:32 pm

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