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Not so Easy Peasy for Albanese!

October 10, 2013

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Factional right-wing hack, Union boss, and Gillard/Rudd loyalist Bill Shorten is widely-tipped tipped to become the next leader of the Labor party despite leadership rival Anthony Albanese being more popular amongst voters.

A Reach Tel poll of 1800 people conducted by Fairfax Media shows Mr Albanese leads Mr Shorten as preferred Labor leader, 58 per cent to 42 per cent, in both Victoria and NSW.

Mr Albanese, the former deputy prime minister, is also considered a better leader and manager of the economy, even in Mr Shorten’s home state of Victoria, while in NSW he has a 61-39 percentage lead, Fairfax reports.

Among Labor voters, each candidate received highest support in their respective states, however, in the new caucus, Mr Shorten appears set to win the vote with the backing of the dominant Right faction, which outnumbers the Left 48-38.

Some Right faction members say Mr Shorten will win between 50 and 52 votes.

However, the result will not be known until Sunday, when the rank-and-file count will also be revealed and the final result announced.

Mr Shorten said he had used the four-week campaign for the Labor leadership to articulate a “mandate for change” on key policy ideas..

He said he wanted Labor to be the party of science, research and innovation, and to “reach out” to new constituencies such as small business.

He said he also wanted to pursue action on domestic violence, and ensure people on the disability pension weren’t treated like second-class citizens.

Without a hint of irony, Bill Shorten said Labor had “largely lost the last election as a result of disunity.”

He said the party had work to do on policies, but it had got it right on fundamental issues such as its support for a price on carbon and the NBN.

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128 Comments leave one →
  1. egg permalink
    October 10, 2013 11:21 am

    ‘He said he wanted Labor to be the party of science, research and innovation, ‘

    He wants a fight over climate change.

  2. egg permalink
    October 10, 2013 12:30 pm

    Which he will lose and Albo should eventually reign supreme …. the people’s choice.

  3. October 10, 2013 2:17 pm

    If Short Man wins Labor has gone from doomed to apocalypse. 🙄

  4. October 10, 2013 2:27 pm

    Agreed Ricky….

  5. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 10, 2013 2:48 pm

    Bill has done much to keep the party together in these trying times, having removed not one but two failed leaders. He is the ideal person to heal the old wounds and keep the party moving froward. The party now, more than ever, needs a faction man to lead them so they don’t lose touch with their union roots. Unionland forever!

  6. egg permalink
    October 10, 2013 3:15 pm

    At least Rudd will cross factional lines to vote for Albo, its the most decent thing Kev has ever done.

  7. TB Queensland permalink
    October 10, 2013 5:15 pm

    Shorten is one of the causes of the ALP demise! Stupid is …

    I’m not all that keen on Albanese either …

    In fact Bowen is my choice in the run up to the next election … but then the knives will come out again …

    What ISN’T working is this mini-side election while Abbott & The Acolytes fiddle and Rome burns …

    Its like the fire service is on strike and the plebs are just throwing buckets of water …

    I love a sunburnt country … 🙂

  8. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 10, 2013 5:22 pm

    Shorten is a cnut who represents the very worst in ALP ethics, his shabby public life and contribution parallels his private one.

    That Albanese is the more attractive candidate says plenty about the paucity of talent in the party. In a ministry in the Hawke era, Albanese would be about the 15th best choice.

  9. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 10, 2013 5:23 pm

    I agree TB, Bowen has been outstanding.

  10. October 10, 2013 7:37 pm

    Jacqui Lambie seems nice…

    http://palmerunited.com/staff/jacqui-lambie/

  11. October 10, 2013 7:42 pm

    Tragically, Jacqui drones like Joolya

  12. TB Queensland permalink
    October 10, 2013 7:54 pm

    my son served for 12.5 years and sfter reading this I suggested he might apply his taents in similar fashion with the PUP …

    … my son generally swallows an alcholic drink … but … not a pretty sight … 😦

  13. TB Queensland permalink
    October 10, 2013 7:57 pm

    Gawd, it looks like I have a speech impediment … and I simply have phat phingers! 😛

  14. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 10, 2013 9:33 pm

    Not so Easy Peasy for Albanese!

    It never is [easy] for ‘teh left’!

    I’m for albo, I like him and feel he has the goods to take the fight up to toned abs. Shorten is all smarm, no reformer. I read somewhere that the labor right wing stitched it up, as they always do, voted as a block to ensure their man. The popular, peoples choice is still disregarded in favour of the cathlick brotherhood, they must have control over gay marriage and euthanasia etc

  15. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 10, 2013 9:46 pm

    BTW reb, I have meant to congratulate you on the quality of your work at TGT of late, I’d say like a ‘professional journo’ but that would be more of an insult than a compliment!
    good stuff.

  16. egg permalink
    October 10, 2013 10:33 pm

    ‘I’m for albo, I like him and feel he has the goods to take the fight up to toned abs.’

    For once we agree on something.

  17. October 11, 2013 7:27 am

    Thanks Kittylitter… 🙂

  18. October 11, 2013 8:37 am

    It does not really matter who wins because neither will ever be PM but if I were to be choosing with my LNP hat on I would hope that Shorten wins because he is the least attractive candidate and the man likely to put up the weakest showing in the house. Albo certainly comes across as the nicer bloke though,

  19. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 11, 2013 9:29 am

    Iain, why would you wear a Liberal hat? They’re a singularly unattractive group- threadbare.

    …and that’s what they’ve always been. The only real reason I can see for supporting them is that they are more likely to hand tax cuts to high income earners, and attractive as that may be, it doesn’t quite resonate as a political talking point.

    On the other hand the ALP were rich with progressive ideas and intelligent people, but that ended about 20 years ago.

    Discussion that reaches the depths of ‘I’d prefer your side to be dumber, to make it easier for my side’ doesn’t generate much interest here. Though the debating style is popular on some ‘other’ blogs.

  20. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2013 9:47 am

    The only real reason I can see for supporting them is that they are more likely to hand tax cuts to high income earners …

    I suppose that could be attractive to welders these days …

  21. October 11, 2013 10:04 am

    ToM
    I was trying to suggest a couple of things with my comment, firstly as a reformed Labor supporter I still have some feelings of good will towards the party in much the same way that many of us wish our former lovers well even after we have moved on to greener pastures, Secondly that “my” side remaining in a winning position through the next parliament is not the whole world.
    TB
    I for one am not a big fan of the corporate oligarchs but I think that we broadly have a pretty good mix when it comes to the way that tax is both levied and collected. The problem with more punitive tax regimes is that they tend to be counter productive because if we tax the rich too hard they tend to do one of two things, either they go elsewhere or they find way to structure their affairs so that they are not obliged to pay as those of the left imagine they should.

  22. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2013 10:40 am

    … we broadly have a pretty good mix when it comes to the way that tax is both levied and collected.

    Its how much actually gets paid being the real issue …

    Youv’e certainly been brainwashed into what the “rich will do” …

    A “reformed” Labor supporter … AND an athiest …

  23. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 11, 2013 11:23 am

    The problem with more punitive tax regimes is that they tend to be counter productive because if we tax the rich too hard they tend to do one of two things, either they go elsewhere or they find way to structure their affairs so that they are not obliged to pay as those of the left imagine they should.

    Let them go.

    If it’s tax evasion the ATO should hunt them down and crack down on tax havens and the loopholes that the rich and their accountants use.

    The left only imagine that they should ‘pay their fair share’ seeing that they get plenty of taxpayer funded ‘incentives’ in operating their businesses.

    Knowing what they do is no excuse to do nothing – they need to be chased and penalties applied. We don’t have the same attitude with druggies and organised crime, there are crack [no pun intended] task forces and combined state and federal teams who spend lots of time and money tracking their every move and chasing the money trails.

    Why are they not serious about white collar crime in this country? These are not ‘good’ people doing great things for the country, they are powerful, privileged people who wield much influence and use it to their own advantage. They don’t care one bit about the less fortunate or contributing to a better society as shown by the pitiful corporate philanthropy here.

    ASIC will go hard on little people with no money like that protester who made the fake press release on a bank letterhead, yet the big fish are time and time again allowed to swim free.

    http://candobetter.net/?q=node/3469

  24. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 11, 2013 11:48 am

    My sentiments as well:

    A decent man.

    Why I Voted For Albo:

    http://thehoopla.com.au/voted-albo/

    …Who can forget when Albo choked back tears in February 2012 declaring his support for Kevin Rudd in the leadership ballot, his decision dating back to his opposition to the removal of Kevin Rudd in 2010? Albo offered his resignation to Julia Gillard, who declined to accept. He was upfront about his position and never wavered and was willing to fall on his sword.

    Albo remained committed to the minority government arrangement. That commitment and his passion for the cause is why I am voting for Albo. This guy wears his heart on his sleeve and we don’t see enough of that in politics.
    Albo is also a strong parliamentary performer, and has cut his teeth on the parliamentary floor. Some of the most memorable moments in parliament have been watching Albo taking the Coalition to task…

  25. October 11, 2013 12:01 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘Why are they not serious about white collar crime in this country?’ ‘ ‘ ‘
    .
    coz they would end up finding that teh-west is funding most global crime and cruelty via it`s corporations like, teh-oil-for-food-scandal, awb, iraq-war-profiteering, blood-diamonds-africa, and so-on,
    .
    and keeping monsters in charge of other countries, like saddam was funded and propped-up for years while saddam attacked iran,
    .
    this is why teh-west govt`s shit themselves over wikileaks, snowden, manning type events

  26. October 11, 2013 12:11 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘I for one am not a big fan of the corporate oligarchs but I’ ‘ ‘ ‘ am silly enough to lobby for all things that benefit them only, over and above people and society.

  27. October 11, 2013 12:15 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ASIC will go hard on little people with no money like that protester who made the fake press release on a bank letterhead, yet the big fish are time and time again allowed to swim free.’ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘
    .
    same with ato and other govt entity`s,
    tough as hell on the little-guy,
    weak as piss against the mega-rich *so-called_freedom*

  28. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 11, 2013 1:07 pm

    speaking of crime

    http://wixxyleaks.com/2013/10/11/ray-of-light-fair-work-commission-drops-its-civil-case-against-craig-thomson/

    These civil charges started out many may remember at a headline grabbing figure of over $500,000. This figure has steadily dropped as things like facts and evidence have been taken into account and the figure now is well and truly under $30,000. Although ancient history, publications like The Australian still like to portray the old $500K figure as fact despite it being utter fiction…

    …Today in court the Fair Work Commission has requested to settle through a mediator in a bid to reach a confidential agreement between themselves and Thomson…

    …It is important to note that this request to settle though a mediator was made by Fair Work Commission and not by Craig Thomson which is a clear indication of which party had the weaker case…

    …As this went to press Michael Lawler refused to comment when I contacted him…

  29. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 11, 2013 1:23 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘Why are they not serious about white collar crime in this country?’ ‘ ‘ ‘

    Fine, get worked up about it.

    Personally I just can’t understand why people aren’t particularly bothered about violent crime against women.

    Marching in Brunswick is fine, but there is no change in public safety. No locked on tracking devices for offenders after release, no chemical castration for repeat offenders.

    I just don’t understand why there isn’t a campaign to address public safety through technology and medical procedures.

  30. October 11, 2013 1:32 pm

    “Abbott has already redefined the parameters of a whole range of policy areas according to this principle. He has determined, for example, that it is better to beg forgiveness for taking money that isn’t yours, than it is to ask permission to take money that isn’t yours. Which is pretty sensible, given that if you ask permission to take money that isn’t yours, you might not get the money at all, and then how are you going to get to the wedding?”

    https://newmatilda.com/2013/10/10/its-never-too-late-say-sorry

  31. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 11, 2013 1:48 pm

    I just don’t understand why there isn’t a campaign to address public safety through technology and medical procedures.

    good one tomM, let’s just forget all about white collar crime because that’s not even important, best to concentrate on another issue that gets little attention from males.

    Some men are speaking out.

    http://www.whiteribbon.org.au/

    You would hear the outraged foaming at the mouth hysteria immediately. The male backlash, the male support groups, all those angry white males who believe they are victims of feminism and PC. They are all being blamed for what ‘some’ men do.

    The shrieks of…’but what about male victims of female violence?” as if that is somehow an equal balance argument.

    Because it’s seen as a ‘women’s issue” not a male one and the subject is taboo for men, heavens to mergatroyd, can’t be judging other kings for what they do in their own private castles. We also know that the [vast majority] of DV perpetrators are males in all occupations and institutions. Men don’t want to see their mates locked down simply because they had a problem with a woman and the woman is probably a ‘lying slut’ anyway, out to destroy a good man. Suddenly, when it comes to DV, men see all kinds of grey in this black & white issue.

  32. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 11, 2013 2:00 pm

    …that it is better to beg forgiveness for taking money that isn’t yours, than it is to ask permission to take money that isn’t yours.

    That’s the whole concept of catholicism and confession. Purified and re-born again and again and again, what a great system they’ve came up with.

  33. egg permalink
    October 11, 2013 3:23 pm

    They have stopped the boats, how easy was that?

    ‘Australian Federal Police chief commissioner Tony Negus said … “During the last few weeks, since the 8th of September specifically, there have been 17 disruptions in Indonesia, where over 550 passengers have been stopped getting onto boats. That’s a result of the cooperative relationship between the AFP, other agencies here in Australia, and the Indonesian National Police..”

    Ben Packham in the Oz

  34. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 11, 2013 4:18 pm

    Did Barnaby Joyce buy two barren blocks of land in NSW between 2006 and 2008 because of the massive CSG deposits now known to be lying beneath, asks John Rainford.

    http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/barnaby-joyces-pilliga-pillage/

    Politicians currently or previously employed by Mining Companies:

    http://lockthemidnorthcoast.com.au/mining-politics/

  35. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2013 4:55 pm

    They have stopped the boats, how easy was that?

    A bit too easy to give credit to the new government … tactical ops take quite a long time to develop … at this level a bit longer than five weeks, methinks …

  36. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 11, 2013 5:15 pm

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-11/christmas-island-administrator-believes-png-deal-working/5017306

    Christmas Island’s administrator Jon Stanhope has credited Labor’s Papua New Guinea deal for a dramatic reduction in asylum seeker boat arrivals, even though he is uncomfortable with the policy…

  37. October 11, 2013 6:48 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘Suddenly, when it comes to DV, men see all kinds of grey in this black & white issue.’ ‘ ‘ ‘
    .
    this is a little bit bullshit,
    the feminista always say `men` when often its the fcukers in power,
    different states deal with DV differently, often the women defend the wife-basher in court, even when cops are called, basher removed/jailed etc,
    .
    the system lets women down armchair,
    you may have missed, bayley who killed jill meagher,
    she was his 22nd? victim last l heard, (others came forward)
    *one-man and 20+ victims
    if it were up to me, he would have been dealt with long before now,
    but unfortunately the pinko`s killed-off the death sentence,
    so there is no proper retribution on criminals,

  38. October 11, 2013 6:57 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘The shrieks of…’but what about male victims of female violence?”’ ‘ ‘ ‘
    l agree.
    Mrs-Egg should stop slapping Egg around.

  39. TB Queensland permalink
    October 11, 2013 7:05 pm

    Personally I’ve never understood why anyone should slap anyone around … and I’m happily heterosexual, not even omnisexual or, pansexual …

    I’m called “straight” ’cause I’m single minded … 😆

  40. October 11, 2013 8:08 pm

    “Personally I’ve never understood why anyone should slap anyone around …”

    Me neither, but then we’re fortunate enough to live in enlightened times…..

  41. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 11, 2013 11:03 pm

    What a surprise!!

    Conroy comes clean and admits that the NBN rollout was too ambitious, that it failed to meet targets.

    The question now is whether any of the mindless apologists will own up to the FACT that they were wrong and unban those of us that actually knew what we were talking about.

    http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/government-it/nbn-rollout-was-too-ambitious-stephen-conroy-20131011-hv244.html

  42. October 12, 2013 1:23 am

    well votes are now closed off, waiting for Sunday. Of course i voted for Albo, who was my local member and a top guy.

    He will start on the self destructing Rabbit as soon as we resume. You may notice that the economy has not collapsed and joe hokey has stopped talking down the economy which apparently was in emergency… it would seem fiscal position was about as tight as joes gastric band which was around his brain not his guts. see joe had an affirmation…he is now going to borrow money to build build build, but its not boing to be debt debt debt, rather redefined as errrrr..umm TBOFTB (to be omitted from the books) sheer genius.

    The boats are still coming on the quiet now and watch NBN co get ready for murdoch’s offer….

    Dick head pyne is picking a fight with teachers as he wants a fiberal version of history because apparently the left wrote the text books and he doesn’t like the ending?.

    Julia Gillard meanwhile has been appointed to the top think tank in the world on education based in nyc and been given an adjunct professorship…

    prediction, pyne will not be education minister in 1 year.

    george brand x, minister for the arts and accommodating bolt has gone as quiet as sophie mirabella’s dance card after all the weddings parties anything free for all…fuck me. Funny that, Tony loved howard but if he stuck to his rules he would have no front bench, one would argue that now.

    hows that women’s affairs portfolio working out tony? well you must admit he is well qualified as a first class cunt.

    oh and low and behold..craig thomson it would seem the case is now going to mediation to be settled as peter slipper is not afforded the sam luxury of paying back an amount that is about 1000th of abbotts misappropriation.

  43. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 12, 2013 2:16 pm

    😆

    thanks ricky that pretty much sums up our current state of affairs.

    the feminista always say `men` when often its the fcukers in power,
    different states deal with DV differently, often the women defend the wife-basher in court, even when cops are called, basher removed/jailed etc,

    .
    The fcukers in power are men. You’re right, women are failed by the system, they are usually traumatised further by the processes and don’t get the protection they need.
    I like the way that men are speaking out, letting others know that DV is not a private business it’s a community issue. You only have to look at the raging sexism and incitement to abuse that was devoted to gillard, the highest female office holder in the land at the time to know that women are still seen by many men to be kept under control, bashed into submission and not to be trusted.

    Did you know that there’s a significant amount of DV offending within the police force? I guess that is why DV is not treated as seriously as other crimes. Policing is a macho man culture.

    I have seen US reports stating that wife beating by police is 2-4 times greater than in the general population. I don’t know if there’s even been any research performed in australia.

  44. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 12, 2013 2:28 pm

    Abbott splitting hairs on the difference between towing and turning back the boats

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-10/abbott-splitting-hairs-on-tow-turn-difference/4994592

    shifty as ever is phonytony & co, but it all goes unnoticed by the cheer squad.

  45. egg permalink
    October 12, 2013 2:56 pm

    ‘The fcukers in power are men.’

    Yeah, no positive discrimination, but he has lots of women in his office. Surely that counts for something.

  46. October 12, 2013 3:59 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘The fcukers in power `are` men.’ ‘ ‘ ‘
    We are now at the stage the feminista `should` be equally pissed-off at the women who have been in the halls of power and `maintained` the system-of abusive misogyny. All states have had women in parliament now, also as leader, yet most of em have done exactly the same as *Joolya* did and piss on their sisters, one-way or another.
    *(misogyny speech day, then cut single-mum`s welfare)
    .
    ‘ ‘ ‘macho cops/DV’ ‘ ‘
    sorry armchair, l don`t have/know DV numbers for AU-cops, tho l do know they have a very high spouse-rate of `other`cops, ambo`s, firey`s and trauma-medicos.

  47. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 12, 2013 4:08 pm

    Nice to see Dianne here, she brings a polite perspective. Quite different from the rest of the crowd.

  48. October 12, 2013 4:17 pm

    heads-up armchair,
    l reckon this can be applied to all aspects of our system,
    the abuse/unfairness is `structured`/built-in to the system, whether it is not delivering for women, children, elderly or men. We can watch at the very-present as mr-rabbit and brandis do all they can to keep structural unfairness in the system over gay-marriage and try to explain-away that teh-system is 7/8ths-equal.
    .
    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘Structural violence refers to the systematic ways in which social structures harm or otherwise disadvantage individuals. Structural violence is subtle and often seemingly invisible. There is usually no one specific person or organization who can (or will) be held responsible for this form of violence as it can be insidious and all-encompassing within any given society.
    .
    Structural violence is one way of describing social arrangements that put individuals and populations in harm`s way. The arrangements are structural because they are embedded in the political and economic organization of our social world; they are violent because they cause injury to people, neither culture nor pure individual will is at fault; rather, historically given (and often economically driven) processes and forces
    conspire to constrain individual agency. Structural violence is visited upon all those whose social status denies them access to the fruits of scientific, economic and social progress”””””’
    http://seventhvoice.wordpress.com/2013/09/22/structural-violence-and-how-it-impacts-on-those-with-disabilities/

  49. TB Queensland permalink
    October 12, 2013 4:32 pm

    Nice to see Dianne here, she brings a polite perspective. Quite different from the rest of the crowd.

    I agree, ToM. But I do wish you wouldn’t judge the rest of us by your own standards …

  50. October 12, 2013 4:44 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘wish you wouldn’t judge the rest of us by your own standards’ ‘ ‘
    We all do that TB, yomm can`t decide things by anybody elses standard. *just-sayin

  51. TB Queensland permalink
    October 12, 2013 5:06 pm

    *sarc, 0000007, and ToM would know that … 🙂

    Thanks for thr advice tho’*

    *yep, that to … 😉

  52. October 12, 2013 5:10 pm

    probably of interest to most here,
    .
    pbs/newshour just had a bloke called robert-rice on,
    promo/discussion for a documentary called
    `inequality for all`, how teh-usa system has been stacked so that much more `benefits` in teh-usa flow to the rich and remove `benefits` from the lower classes (teabag-trickledown)
    .
    making the case that `benefits` not received by all classes is not democratic, also features warren buffet

  53. egg permalink
    October 12, 2013 5:45 pm

    Crowd sourcing and crowd funding are novel ways to finance new ventures.

    http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/bulletin/engineers-crowd-together-to-make-hyperloop-a-reality/31858

  54. October 12, 2013 6:02 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘A single top income could buy housing for every homeless person in the U.S.

    On a winter day in 2012 over 633,000 people were homeless in the United States. Based on an annual single room occupancy (SRO) cost of $558 per month, any ONE of the ten richest Americans would have enough with his 2012 income to pay for a room for every homeless person in the U.S. for the entire year . These ten rich men together made more than our entire housing budget.

    For anyone still believing “they earned it,” it should be noted that most of the Forbes 400 earnings came from minimally-taxed, non-job-creating capital gains.’ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘
    .
    http://inequalityforall.com/fact-2/

  55. egg permalink
    October 12, 2013 7:08 pm

    Much amusement in the UK….

    ‘The Coalition was riven by bitter infighting over green taxes last night after David Cameron ordered a review to stem the rise in energy bills.

    ‘Green taxes have been blamed for pushing energy prices to record levels, but the Prime Minister’s intervention met fierce opposition from the Lib Dems.

    ‘They insist the Government’s green energy targets are sacred.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2455538/PM-orders-review-green-taxes-Cameron-battles-Lib-Dems-bids-curb-soaring-energy-bills.html#ixzz2hUbe0KeZ
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  56. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 13, 2013 1:23 am

    For anyone still believing “they earned it,” it should be noted that most of the Forbes 400 earnings came from minimally-taxed, non-job-creating capital gains.’ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘

    and the loony teabaggers, those useful idiots for the wealthy continue to scream “less tax, no obamacare!”

  57. egg permalink
    October 13, 2013 8:28 am

    If the US stopped funding their WMD war machine there would be more than enough money for universal health care, but unfortunately half the population has a weird mindset.

    They think of themselves as a christian nation, but JC would be sickened to see so many citizens sleeping rough and denied health care. The US conservatives really are a disgrace.

  58. October 13, 2013 10:48 am

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘If the US stopped funding their WMD war machine’ ‘ ‘ ‘
    FFS 100% accuracy!
    Okay folks, Who drop-kicked egg off the tea-trolley.?
    l hope you`re okay egg.
    .
    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘minimally-taxed, non-job-creating capital gains.’ ‘ ‘ ‘
    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘useful idiots for the wealthy continue to scream “less tax, no obamacare’ ‘ ‘ ‘
    it is quite strange teh-usa teabags continue to piss on their creditors(China) when they have shipped so much of their business assets to China, and damage confidence and economy too
    .
    FYI China holds one-point-three-trillion-dollars of teh-usa debt

  59. egg permalink
    October 13, 2013 11:18 am

    The Albo/Shorten race looks tighter than at first thought, a promise of future instability.

    Go Albo, you little bewdy!

  60. October 13, 2013 11:35 am

    Unfortunately the trough-snouts, faceless-goons and factless-trolls will back shortman and keep teh`race` tight, which will give the pups plenty to chew on, instead of having the brains to give albo clear air. *go-watermelon* *go-albo*

  61. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 13, 2013 12:43 pm

    International Monetary Fund strongly suggests countries tax the rich to fix deficit

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/11/international-monetary-fund-strongly-suggests-countries-tax-the-rich-to-fix-deficit/

    …Tax the rich and better target the multinationals: The IMF has set off shockwaves this week in Washington by suggesting countries fight budget deficits by raising taxes.

    Tucked inside a report on public debt, the new tack was mostly eclipsed by worries about the US budget crisis, but did not escape the notice of experts and nongovernmental organizations (NGOs).

    “We had to read it twice to be sure we had really understood it,” said Nicolas Mombrial, the head of Oxfam in Washington. “It’s rare that IMF proposals are so surprising.”…

    …“Scope seems to exist in many advanced economies to raise more revenue from the top of the income distribution,” the IMF wrote, noting “steep cuts” in top rates since the early 1980s.

    According to IMF estimates, taxing the rich even at the same rates during the 1980s would reap fiscal revenues equal to 0.25 percent of economic output in the developed countries.

    “The gain could in some cases, such as that of the United States, be more significant,” around 1.5 percent of gross domestic product, said the IMF report, which also singled out deficient taxation of multinational companies.

    In the US alone, legal loopholes deprive the Treasury of roughly $60 billion in receipts, the global lender said….

  62. public toilet permalink
    October 13, 2013 12:55 pm

    Clearly, the IMF must be a Stalinist shopfront!

  63. October 13, 2013 1:20 pm

    Nice to see some trough-snouts are finally catching up to the sane commenters around here armchair, (good point dunny, the teabags will do some wild and woolley screeching over this one) unfortunately, the trough-snouts have convinced govts to dismantle themselves to such an extent, l don`t think this will gain any meaningful traction, just noise.
    #imf

  64. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 13, 2013 2:22 pm

    tomM, you could start a national campaign like this US one called #31 for marissa

    ‘We Failed You, Marissa. Men Fail Women Like You Every Day.’

    Men write about domestic violence experienced by women they know, in a weekly compilation of letters from the #31forMarissa project.

    http://www.alternet.org/activism/we-failed-you-marissa-men-fail-women-you-every-day?paging=off&current_page=1#bookmark

    October 11, 2013 |
    Editor’s Note: A nationwide, month-long letter-writing campaign called #31forMarissa has just finished its second week. The campaign encourages men to write about domestic violence, sharing stories that deal with the action, reaction and inaction of men in their family or community, and the legacy of that behavior. The letters will be sent to Marissa Alexander, a Florida woman who was sentenced to 20 years in jail after firing a warning shot at a wall near her abusive husband

    see the letters here [pretty hard reading]

    http://the-swag-spot.tumblr.com/

    …’Welcome to theSWAGspot. A digital village via tumblr; a community of conversations by men with men for men from a space of ‘emotional justice’. Via letters, notes, quotes and images men share stories, experiences, lessons learned and legacy left from violence, traditional masculinity, love, fear, rage, healing…

  65. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 13, 2013 2:29 pm

    for toilet

    Chomsky: For Almost 70 Years the U.S. Has Been the World Leader in Spreading Destruction and Misery Across the Planet:

    http://www.alternet.org/world/chomsky-almost-70-years-us-has-been-world-leader-spreading-destruction-and-misery-across?paging=off&current_page=1#bookmark

  66. egg permalink
    October 13, 2013 2:41 pm

    Kitty I think the Germans deserve that prize, the US tries to limit destruction with small wars. In both world wars the Americans were reluctant to get involved, but ultimately forced.

  67. October 13, 2013 3:01 pm

    hey armchair, did you see this.?
    .
    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘You Think You Knew Crazy? Think Again.
    10 Shockers from the Increasingly Unhinged Right Wing’ ‘ ‘ ‘
    http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/you-think-you-knew-crazy-think-again-10-shockers-increasingly-unhinged-right?paging=off&current_page=1
    .
    *bat-shit crazy teabags
    *mr-egg, come on down

  68. egg permalink
    October 13, 2013 3:05 pm

    Instead of taxing the rich, they are selling national assets.

    ‘The Italian government is to sell scores of historic properties to help it tackle its huge budget deficit.

    ‘A haunted fortress, a cardinal’s palace and an island in the Venetian lagoon are among 50 sites for sale.

    ‘The move recalls 2012, when Greece was forced to sell off some its beautiful islands to foreign buyers, to chip away at its enormous debts.

    ‘The Italian government hope that the nation’s treasures will be bought by private businesses and converted into hotels, restaurants and museums, bringing much needed employment and international investment.

    ‘Minister for the economy Fabrizio Saccomanni aims to make £425million from the sell-off.’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2455543/Italy-sell-50-historic-sites-try-pay-government-debt.html#ixzz2hZTroVMm
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

  69. October 13, 2013 3:08 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘Kitty I think the Germans deserve that prize,’ ‘ ‘ ‘
    Fascinating egg,
    considering ww1 and ww2 combined, was about 10 years, while teh yanks only fought in half those ten years, shall we look the other way.? vietnam 13-years, lraq/Afghan 10+years, korea-hostility 60-years, meddling in mid-east and south-america
    .
    lt might help if you actually read stuff egg.

  70. egg permalink
    October 13, 2013 4:36 pm

    Oh yeah, past seven decades.

    “For nearly seven decades the United States has been the anchor of global security,” a role that “has meant more than forging international agreements; it has meant enforcing them.”

    A sort of policeman, the toughest kid on the block.

  71. TB Queensland permalink
    October 13, 2013 4:50 pm

    lt might help if you actually read stuff egg.

    Especially some political/military history of the 19th, 20th AND the 21st Centuries …

    Having said that I’m currently reading 10th, 11th Century (previously a couple of hundred years BC of Rome’s history) and the only thing that seems to change is the weaponry!

    The motivation and politics used by government, church, military and business has changed not a jot …

    I’m currently discovering what a knight REALLY was in the 11th Century … and it wasn’t honourable … but then look at today’s knights and what’s changed?

  72. October 13, 2013 4:52 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘for nearly seven decades” the United States has led the world in aggression and subversion – overthrowing elected governments and imposing vicious dictatorships, supporting horrendous crimes, undermining international agreements and leaving trails of blood, destruction and misery.’ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘

    as usual egg, you missed the main game

  73. October 13, 2013 4:57 pm

    not the pinewood bullshit TB, really just mercenaries

  74. TB Queensland permalink
    October 13, 2013 5:09 pm

    On topic… Shorten’s election has almost guaranteed Abbott another term in the The Lodge(ings) …

    And after reading up on the TPP what a disaster our lives will be if that document is ever signed!

  75. TB Queensland permalink
    October 13, 2013 5:12 pm

    If you, consider the way, say, the Redcoats were used around the world mercenaries fit nicely … the US Military in Iraq … mercenaries for oil …

    Korea was actually a UN initiated war … by the USA …

    You could say that the ADF is a mercenary force … its only ever been deployed, until last month, overseas …

  76. October 13, 2013 5:22 pm

    l was thinking of `crusades` in the name of dog(but Loot all you can) #knights

  77. October 13, 2013 5:27 pm

    “A sort of policeman, the toughest kid on the block.”

    A self interested interferer, wielding the biggest stick & (in nearly all instances) acting to protect its own global monopolies & influence.

    A lot like the TPP really.

  78. October 13, 2013 5:32 pm

    ” Shorten’s election has almost guaranteed Abbott another term in the The Lodge”

    Agreed.

    A regression for the ALP, when the opposite was needed. Apparently, the same shadowpuppeteers still hold sway.

    I wonder how ALParselickersRus will ‘adjust’ to their new ‘official’ hood ornament? Perhaps they were all waiting for Julia to come back. 🙄 Anyhow, I’m sure they’ll neatly segue into nodding lockstep with Shorten, because, well, just because…

  79. October 13, 2013 5:34 pm

    The obstinate Teabaggers in the US continue to cling to their dangerous game, I see.

    Personally, I think they’re shitting the fuck out of most of their fellow citizens (the ones who aren’t dyed in the fucking wool anyway)…let alone (duuuuuh rockshifter) the rest of the planet’s economic voyeurs.

  80. October 13, 2013 5:39 pm

    I’m partway through Rubicon, TB. Busy, but enjoying it when I get the chance. Will definitely look into Holland’s further works.

    Solar panels & inverter went up on Friday. The local tradies were as sure footed as mountain goats on the roof of the Lodge. Much higher than a standard house roof, coz it used to be a hall…& with a steeper gradient. Better them than me, up there; kudos.
    ETSA to install new meter later in week, then…Let The Gouging BEGIN

  81. October 13, 2013 5:39 pm

    Just watched Shortman on Ten-teabag-news,
    he looked just like he did when he back-stabbed Joolya,
    (like a frightened possum in a spot-light)

  82. October 13, 2013 5:40 pm

    “A regression for the ALP, when the opposite was needed. Apparently, the same shadowpuppeteers still hold sway.”

    Yep, the factional right wing Union hacks cling to power while what was actually needed was for them to be weeded out.

    Abbott must be popping the champagne…

  83. October 13, 2013 5:45 pm

    Thanks for the Chomsky link, KL.

    Now, watch the ‘others’ chime in with deflective arguments like…”well, the commies/muslims/South-American-Democracies would have been worse…”…as if that excuses the reprehensible manoeuvring by the US (which, all the while, sold itself [misleadingly] as the quintessential ‘Good Guy’).

  84. October 13, 2013 5:48 pm

    So 60% of ALP members (some 30,000 voters) wanted Albanese but the factional hacks installed Shorten instead…

    Labor deserve to be in Opposition for a long time while this sort of shite goes on…

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-13/bill-shorten-elected-labor-leader/5019116?google_editors_picks=true

  85. October 13, 2013 5:48 pm

    We should be running as fast as we can in the opposite direction of ‘free’ trade agreements with the US.

    Unfortunately, Abbottcorp. will be ideologically predisposed towards reflexively dropping its knickers for Unca Samuel.

  86. October 13, 2013 5:49 pm

    “Labor deserve to be in Opposition for a long time while this sort of shite goes on…”

    Indeed!

    As I said, it will be interesting to see how supposedly ‘leftwing & proud’ blogsites play this development.

  87. October 13, 2013 5:51 pm

    I look forward to Catching Up’s insightful analysis… 🙄

  88. Neil of Sydney permalink
    October 13, 2013 6:12 pm

    Wonder how long before Rudd makes a challenge??

  89. October 13, 2013 6:17 pm

    Haha…probably not until 2016, Neil. 😉

  90. October 13, 2013 6:28 pm

    The ink’s not even dry on the ballot figures yet Shorten and his right-wing backers already want Rudd’s party reforms wound back… http://gu.com/p/3jg53/tw

  91. egg permalink
    October 13, 2013 8:49 pm

    ‘A self interested interferer, wielding the biggest stick…’

    It cannot be denied, the behaviour of the US over the second half of the 20th century is not a good look. Chile and Vietnam are two examples of their pathetic approach to contain Communism, but now that they have won the cold war their attitude should change.

    China is the last Communist superpower and no longer a threat to capitalism, so the US will probably remain active in their pursuit of wannabe terrorists (freedom fighters) in the Middle East and limit the use of ground forces.

    Commando raids, drone attacks and kidnappings reduces collateral damage, which can’t be a bad thing.

  92. October 13, 2013 8:52 pm

    Kevin07`s reforms did not go far enough, and my `colleagues` didn`t tell the full story.
    http://730reportland.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=516

  93. October 14, 2013 8:45 am

    I am resigning from the ALP today, I’m a life member. I’m done.

  94. October 14, 2013 9:10 am

    Was it the voice of the 55 caucus members overruling the wishes of its 30,000 strong membership base that did it Ricky?

  95. TB Queensland permalink
    October 14, 2013 9:55 am

    Let The Gouging BEGIN …

    Speaking of gouging, where’s Wally these days … Libs in, fights over?

  96. TB Queensland permalink
    October 14, 2013 10:00 am

    I am resigning from the ALP today, I’m a life member. I’m done.

    I’ve only ever voluntarily “joined” one group in all my life … that’s my model railway lot … and I haven’t been to a meeting all year … too much politics …

    Ooops … I tell a lie I just joined the RAEME Assoc (to save some money, as a member, on Anzac Day) …

  97. October 14, 2013 10:07 am

    I take my lead from Groucho Marx…

    “I don’t care to belong to any club that would have me as a member. “

  98. public toilet permalink
    October 14, 2013 10:08 am

    I imagine you won’t be the only one, Ricky.

    Seems to me that the ALP came to it’s fork in the road …& took the wrong turn.

  99. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 14, 2013 10:24 am

    I’m not fond of Bill Shorten, but I think process of involving the caucus in the ballot is good.

    Without Rudd and Bowen, it would never have happened. Where’s Conry? He’ll have to eat his words.
    ——
    I can understand your sentiment Ricky.

  100. October 14, 2013 10:37 am

    On the weekend, a friend of mine said he was going to a fancy dress party dressed as an Italian island…

    And I said…

    “Don’t be Sicily”

    😆

  101. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 14, 2013 10:39 am

    I think process of involving the caucus membership in the ballot is good.

  102. egg permalink
    October 14, 2013 10:44 am

    Lol Reb.

  103. TB Queensland permalink
    October 14, 2013 11:01 am

    “Don’t be Sicily”

    Boom! Boom! LOL!

    I think process of involving the caucus membership in the ballot is good.

    Well spotted, ToM … 😉

  104. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 14, 2013 12:02 pm

    There are far more union members in Australia than there are ALP members. Those union members deserve to be heard through their elected union leaders and the politicians those union leaders parachute into parliament. This is exactly what has happened. The combined voices of the ALP members and the union members have spoken.

    Unionists founded the ALP and are the the very reason for which the ALP exists. However there needs to be some reflection on the current voting system. It is probably weighted too much in favour of the membership. The ALP should not turn away from its own traditions and history by empowering a bunch of faux-radical upper middle class trendies who have little in common with working class people. Labor needs to focus on working people and their needs, not the cause du jour of the dregs of the middle class. Those fickle fuck-knuckles are the ones having a hissy fit now, threatening to leave the party. Good riddance. Leave the fuckers to the Greens. Unionland forever!

  105. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 14, 2013 2:26 pm

    AO – ‘tomM, you could start a national campaign like this US one called #31 for marissa

    Thanks AO, maybe reb could put up a tab where people could post their support for sensible, contemporary policies for the protection of women from cnuts that rape women, such as the use of tracking devices.

    I’ve mentioned this idea to a range of people (to the point of hearing teeth grind) including a prominent criminal lawyer. I haven’t heard a sensible counter argument.

    Our recent experience shows that the worst rapists that then proceed to murder their victims are recidivists. Track them, impose a curfew on them for the rest of their lives.

  106. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 14, 2013 2:34 pm

    Those union members deserve to be heard through their elected union leaders and the politicians those union leaders parachute into parliament.

    yes they do sb, but many of those union leaders, the real faceless men eg joe debruyn et al are guilty of undemocratic representation. Joe [strong catholic] refuses to poll the SDA membership to see if they want gay marriage etc. When the members have complained about his misrepresentation he says the leadership is elected to speak for them. The power mongers vote according to personal religious belief, not the wishes of the majority of their membership, and that is the problem.

    You might have seen paul howes trying to bring on the fight with some public pro gay marriage statements but it goes nowhere because the right wing catholic brotherhood installed forever won’t countenance it. They vote in a bloc to destroy and chance of democratic outcomes that they don’t like.

    To me, Bill Shorten represents all that is wrong with the labor right wing machine and they have once again rolled their union members.

  107. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 14, 2013 2:36 pm

    I’ve mentioned this idea to a range of people (to the point of hearing teeth grind) including a prominent criminal lawyer. I haven’t heard a sensible counter argument.

    All men?
    Are women more sympathetic to the idea?

  108. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 14, 2013 2:44 pm

    Are You Scared Yet? The Mugging Of The Australian Electorate:

    http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/are-you-scared-yet-the-mugging-of-the-australian-electorate/691/

    Dr Peter Hatemi, a research fellow at the United States Studies Centre at the University of Sydney summarised those conservative traits to me last year:
    “People on the social right tend to be more closed-minded, more focused on out-groups, more authoritarian, more militant, punitive and retribution-minded,” he said…

    …Conservatives, for example, tend to have a stronger “startle reflex” in response to sudden loud noise, than liberals do. They exhibit stronger sympathetic-nervous-system reactions to what they perceive as threatening images. They are more inclined to feel disgust and are generally more fearful…

    http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/the-claim-game/709/

    The Gillard Labor Government – with the full support of the Coalition – acted to wall off parliamentary departments from FOI laws after Australia’s Government-appointed FOI watchdog, the Information Commissioner, Professor John McMillan, had ruled that the departments should be subject to FOI laws. For years department heads had worked under the assumption that they were exempt.
    Of course, nobody actually said that the reason to quarantine the departments from FOI laws was to keep the public from poking its nose into the oft unsavory details of public spending on MPs…

  109. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 14, 2013 3:05 pm

    AO, I’ve raised the point a dinner parties, particularly in the context of the rape & murder of the poor young Irish woman.

    Women seem very supportive, but don’t seem to express this with much vigour. Men also seem supportive but don’t get very passionate about the subject.

    Marching up the street in Brunswick is great, it’s nice to show interest.

    But some practical public safety measures are required. It seems reasonable to say – once convicted of rape, you’ve lost your right to roam the streets unmonitored, forever.

  110. October 14, 2013 4:23 pm

    “It seems reasonable to say – once convicted of rape, you’ve lost your right to roam the streets unmonitored, forever.”

    Agreed.

  111. October 14, 2013 6:39 pm

    Reb the right finally got their wish. They have tried to throw me out before and now i’ve walked. I’m just sick of it, the ALP is fucked and still not listening to their membership at their own peril, we have the most unworthy bullshitting muppet in the lodge in Australian history. I’m gonna take some time out finish this film and do a new record at the end of the year.

  112. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 14, 2013 7:44 pm

    7.30 Report – Annabelle Crabbe is nice, but Shorten is a dull dill.

    The ALP is committed to an unsavory hack to 3 years.

  113. egg permalink
    October 14, 2013 8:33 pm

    China has more worthless US Treasury Bonds than any other country on earth and they are buying gold in a hurry. China has a plan to allow the Yuan to become the dominant currency on the planet, to replace the US dollar.

    Where’s Wally?

  114. October 14, 2013 8:42 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘I’m just sick of it, the ALP is fucked and still not listening to their membership’ ‘ ‘ ‘
    .
    A lot of folks agree with you Ricky,
    http://730reportland.wordpress.com/730reportlands_alp_vote_breakdown/

    (silly me, forgot to click save yesterday, updated now)
    Shortman is going down like a lead balloon with my household too.

  115. October 14, 2013 8:59 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘Yuan to become the dominant currency’ ‘ ‘ ‘
    sorry egg , no it won`t
    China holds down the currency, (proven-fact_the-usa_screeches_about)
    to keep it the `cheapest` vendor on earth,
    the total opposite of `dominant`, most variation between yuan and green-back, (or-others) is when teh-greenback goes into freefall, yuan is govt controlled, not dumped on free-trading-brokers whims.

  116. egg permalink
    October 14, 2013 10:32 pm

    We shall see.

  117. October 14, 2013 10:48 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘We shall see.’ ‘ ‘ ‘
    sorry Dumpty, they just discussed it on qandaland tonight.

  118. October 15, 2013 12:23 am

    armchair, yeah, good read on scared teabag psychosis,
    it was a shame tho, that the `Lefty` psychosis wasn`t covered.
    http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/are-you-scared-yet-the-mugging-of-the-australian-electorate/691/

  119. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 15, 2013 1:06 am

    But some practical public safety measures are required. It seems reasonable to say – once convicted of rape, you’ve lost your right to roam the streets unmonitored, forever.

    I’ve got no problem with that tomm, they’ve shown that they are an opportunistic sexual predator and can’t be trusted around women who just want to go about their own business safe and secure.

    Labor MPs slam return to factional ‘cabals’, after missing out on frontbench:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-14/labor-mps-slam-factional-cabals-in-frontbench-voting/5021804

    …Inside Caucus, dumped Northern Territorian Mr Snowdon complained of side deals and stitch-ups, allegedly using the word “corruption”…

    …”You can’t have small groups of people meeting as a cabal, deciding on who should be the shadow ministers which is what in effect what happened today,” he said…

    Not very happy campers, already having a grizzle to the press.

    There are six new faces in the Shadow Ministry, but former ministers Jacinta Collins, Kate Lundy and Warren Snowden have been dumped.

    Probably no great loss.

    In an opinion piece written for The Guardian, and published soon after the new shadow ministry was announced, Ms Burke says the line-up reflects a return to the “faceless men” in control of the Labor caucus…

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/14/anna-burke-faceless-men-control-shorten-labor

    so tell me, what’s changed?

  120. October 15, 2013 10:12 am

    BREAKING NEWS!: former HSU boss Michael Williamson pleads guilty to three fraud charges in a Sydney court…

  121. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    October 15, 2013 10:19 am

    He may have pleaded guilty, but you should withhold judgement until the court actually finds him guilty.

    You can’t jump to conclusions.

  122. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 15, 2013 10:22 am

    “they just discussed it on qandaland tonight”

    Just a bunch of posturing Pecksniffs strutting their exquisite consciences.

    Does anyone still watch that drivel? It is like the 20/20 Summit on endless loop, the quality degrading with every regurgitation.

    Agreed KL. Good to see Anna Burke calling out misogyny in the ALP. More than Gillard did when she had the chance. Where’s Emily’s List now?

  123. egg permalink
    October 15, 2013 10:49 am

    Williamson faced 50 charges and ‘all but six of those charges were withdrawn on Tuesday.’

    Does pleading guilty mean there will be no court case?

  124. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 15, 2013 11:00 am

    I think it means that the prosecution does not need to lead its evidence or prove it in court although it will make some statements at sentencing to show the perfidious nature of the crimes.

    This was an issue in the Port Arthur massacre case. Because there was no detailed evidence in the court record the conspiracy theorists have had much more scope to make shit up.

  125. egg permalink
    October 15, 2013 11:44 am

    Okay.

  126. Splatterbottom permalink
    October 15, 2013 1:48 pm

    Williamson:

    Williamson admitted funnelling nearly $340,000 into a business called Canme Services, which was registered in his wife Julieanne’s name.

    Dozens of cheques were made out to Canme for services that were never provided to the union.

    He also admitted to defrauding the union out of $600,000 through a consulting company called Access Focus.

    It is believed Williamson received a massive windfall from the company, due to inflated fees billed to the HSU.

    The former unionist also pleaded guilty to fabricating invoices to cover his tracks in returns to the union in February last year.

    The final guilty plea came in relation to recruiting of other union members to help destroy evidence and hinder a police investigation.

    Last year, Williamson was caught trying to shred documents when he was confronted by the NSW Fraud Squad at the union offices in Sydney’s CBD.

    Relatively minor by Unionland standards, but it is good to see this former ALP President at least get to court, unlike the grubs who rorted the AWU. That Royal Commission should be fun. Especially watching Shorten explain his role in the matter.

  127. armchair opinionator permalink
    October 16, 2013 2:18 am

    That Royal Commission should be fun. Especially watching Shorten explain his role in the matter.

    They should’ve thought of that before installing shortman. People are suggesting that the reason sinodinos is not in abbott’s ministry is because he’s tainted by obeid and those water shares that he ‘forgot’ he had, I remember he had to offload around $3 mill.

    I hope that a light is shone on all of the players, there are ‘baddies’ [to use an abbott/bush simplification] on both sides. Will ashbygate be given some scrutiny?

    I hope kathy jackson sees her day in court for the substantial HSU dollars that ended up in her pocket. Some sources have her with a psych problem, a mental breakdown or something, I do hope she is not allowed to do a grech. It seems that people who collude with libs to bring down labor, never see their day in court. They suddenly have mental health issues. She should not be allowed to live happy ever after with that lawler grub either, another cowardly tory who will be protected in ‘the system’, allowed to slink away to work in another state after he brought FWA into disrepute.

    One in, all in.

    The RC terms of reference will be very interesting [for who and what it doesn’t include].

  128. egg permalink
    October 16, 2013 6:57 am

    Kathy is not Godwin, he’s a pathetic little man who told blatant lies, while Kathy is a heroic whistle blower …. of sorts.

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