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New Poll confirms Voters want rid of Joe Hockey and Tony Abbott

April 13, 2015

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Bookies are backing Malcolm Turnbull to become the next leader of the Liberal Party as two new polls out today confirm that Tony Abbott remains toxic amongst voters and Treasurer Joe Hockey is considered an abject failure amongst Labor and Liberal supporters alike.

It’s been a horrible anus and a mighty fall from grace for Joe Hockey, the once popular member for North Sydney who famously danced to the tune of “This is the Best Day of My Life” moments before he unveiled one of the harshest budgets in Australia’s living history, slashing health, education and welfare services for low and middle income earners.

Reflecting on his achievement, Mr Hockey and Mathias Cormann were later photographed relaxing and smoking Cuban cigars, an image that many felt suggested that the LNP were “out of touch” with ordinary Australians. Quelle surprise.

It was a budget couched in extreme Liberal Party ideology, a belief that the well-off shouldn’t have to fund the “excesses” of those who are incapable of funding their own “lifestyle choices,” as Tony Abbott would later call it.

Joe Hockey preferred the term “leaners,” in reference to those unable to find work to support their day-to-day living expenses, while elderly father figure Senator Eric Abetz proclaimed that the miracle of employment was available to those who sought it.  Even in cash strapped states like Tasmania and South Australia where jobs are few and youth unemployment sitting at 20 per cent, Senator Abetz suggested that the unemployed would simply find work by sending out more job applications.   40 applications a month was the figure touted by the Libs, but later abandoned once it was brought to their attention that this would simply create an administrative nightmare for employers who faced being inundated with applications.

The harsh measures were justified as necessary for the good of Australia, due to a so-called “budget emergency” created, apparently, by the former Labor government, and one which Julie Bishop would falsely claim as being “the worst set of books inherited by any government in history.”

Despite the lies and falsehoods, last year’s budget measures to slash funding for health, welfare and education have been unanimously rejected by the Australian public.

Christopher “the fixer” Pyne’s so-called “education reforms” remain in tatters, and are unlikely to see the light of day under this government ever again.  His days as the Member of Sturt appear numbered, on the back of cuts to funding to the ABC in Adelaide, a self-inflicted wound if ever there was one, and his master’s decision to build Australia’s new submarine fleet anywhere else but in the home of submarine manufacturing in South Australia.

With the next budget just 4 weeks away, Joe Hockey’s fortunes look less than rosey. He has suffered a massive 45 per cent reversal in his approval rating over the last 13 months, from a plus 20 per cent approval rating in March 2014 to a less than perky minus 25 now.

The morale blow for the government comes as the Fairfax-Ipsos poll for April, found 6 out of 10 voters (58 per cent) say they still want the budget deficit addressed as a “high priority” and a growing number favour an increase in the 10 per cent goods and services tax to help balance the books.

Even among Coalition voters, Joe Hockey has been given a fail mark by a third of respondents at 32 per cent although 60 per cent approve of his performance.

At approval ratings of minus 26 and minus 25 respectively, Mr Abbott and Mr Hockey are equally unpopular, reinforcing a view within the Liberal party-room that a change in leadership would be a 2-for-1 deal resulting in Mr Hockey’s removal as well.

In the crucial election-deciding two party preferred stakes, Labor has opened up an eight-point lead against the Coalition at 54 per cent to the Coalition on 46 per cent – a collapse of three points for the government since last month.

These results, if carried through to the next election, would see an electoral annihilation of the Abbott government, with as many as 36 seats falling.

The next Federal election is likely to occur during the latter half of next year.

 

 

 

 

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  1. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 9:36 am

    A Mr Denmore pointed out (and I linked to in the other thread), the polls are either good or bad, depending on which muppet you’re reading.

  2. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 9:41 am

    For a better look, and one which provides no real answer

    If we adjust the recent polls for house effects, an interesting pattern emerges. Very few of the recent polls are close to the median model prediction. A cluster of adjusted polls sees the government on 48.5 to 49 per cent. Another cluster of adjusted polls sees the government on the very uncompetitive 44.5 to 45.5 per cent. I am not sure that this is meaningful, beyond being cautious and acknowledging that the polling seems quite volatile at the moment.

    http://marktheballot.blogspot.com.au/2015/04/aggregated-polling-update.html

    As far as I see it, polling, at the moment, means shit. What will mean something is the budget, and just what the reaction to it will be like.

    The libs are in a real bind. Their backers want their paid for pie, but the public aren’t buying it.

    Will they abandon their backers, will they get smarter on ripping off the poor in more devious ways, or will they continue to just bludgeon them, with the resulting penalty in the polls.

  3. April 13, 2015 9:48 am

    Will they abandon their backers, will they get smarter on ripping off the poor in more devious ways, or will they continue to just bludgeon them, with the resulting penalty in the polls.

    Good question…

    I can’t see them abandoning their backers any time soon.

    I heard Hockey blabbing on this morning about “doing what’s right for Australia, regardless of whether it’s popular or not.”

    Presumably, “doing what’s right” doesn’t include increasing taxes for the top 1% or stopping tax evasion by large multi-nationals.

    Presumably, “doing what’s right” does include creating racial tension in society, fabricated threats to national security and other sensational distractions to draw attention away from their own economic vandalism and cronyism..

  4. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 9:58 am

    Why does one stream of anti-science get hit, when others are actually supported by the grubmint and their backers?

  5. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 9:59 am

    to draw attention away from their own economic vandalism and cronyism..

    Just wanted to highlight that again reb 😉

  6. April 13, 2015 10:27 am

    Fairfax Ipsos Poll:

    QLD Federal 2 Party Preferred: L/NP 47 (-3) ALP 53 (+3)

    VIC Federal 2 Party Preferred: L/NP 41 (-3) ALP 59 (+3)

    NSW Federal 2 Party Preferred: L/NP 52 (-1) ALP 48 (+1)

  7. TB Queensland permalink
    April 13, 2015 11:06 am

    The next Federal election is likely to occur during the latter half of next year.

    And I can’t see any changes happening for the Coalition between now and then either … 36 seats might climb to 46 by the next election … highlighting that the Age of Entitlement is over …

    =================================

    … will they get smarter on ripping off the poor in more devious ways …

    Well their “devious ways” have been pretty obvious so far, TR, and called out for what they are … and smart Liberal minister is a classic oxymoron …

  8. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 13, 2015 11:42 am

    New polls but same old pain for Abbott:
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-13/matthewson-new-polls-but-same-old-pain/6388070

    …Given today’s opinion polls will be used to recast a negative light on the PM and the Treasurer, it would be fair to conclude their power base remains fractured and in danger of being shattered…

  9. April 13, 2015 1:59 pm

    post”””””Joe Hockey is considered an abject failure amongst Labor and Liberal supporters alike.”””’

    #was there ever any doubt

    +

    ”””’It`s been a horrible ##anus and a mighty fall from grace for Joe Hockey””””’#ROFL

  10. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 13, 2015 2:03 pm

    Meanwhile, the alternative is:

    FAINE: You’re at risk of repeating yourself, I’m asking you to explain how you pay for all of these things and the infrastructure that the increasingly growing fast cities desperately need?

    SHORTEN: Well you go to the next lever.

  11. April 13, 2015 2:06 pm

    Meanwhile, the incumbent is:

    PETER DUTTON: Labor mess….Labor mess….. Labor mess…..

  12. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 13, 2015 2:09 pm

    Clearly the Libs go at the next election because they are incompetent liars. But things ain’t gonna get any better with Blib.

  13. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 2:42 pm

    Well you go to the next lever. If education’s one lever that the national government can help pull to make this country grow, because I believe that if you invest in peoples’ minds and let people fulfil their own potential then they will find those economic opportunities that’s so necessary to growth but then you to get to infrastructure. We do need more infrastructure in this country. We need a national infrastructure market where people can invest in infrastructure projects in the future with the certainty that infrastructure is not politicised, that the choices and the projects which are being suggested by national governments are ones which stack up in a cost benefit analysis. So there’s infrastructure then there’s education, then there’s proper investment in science. These are economic prescriptions as well as being things which are good for our quality of life.

    And the problem with that completed statement is…..?

  14. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 2:44 pm

    oh, and the link

    http://billshorten.com.au/radio-interview-abc-774-with-jon-faine-tony-abbotts-unfair-budget-100000-degrees-tony-abbotts-gp-tax

    Not the greatest interview ever, but it has vision and explanations. It just didn’t have the detail oppositions halfway through their term now apparently require

  15. April 13, 2015 2:49 pm

    sb””””’things ain`t gonna get any better with Blib”””’#agree

    ””’SHORTEN: Well you go to the next lever”””

    #shh-blib l think you will find caucus will go to the next `knife` if you remember ..

    +

    #l`ve noticed blib has been doing reasonably well on the shh-blib front, and not appearing too much on telly, unfortunately, when blib does appear on telly, blib is either agreeing with mr-rabbit, or being `teabag-lite`

    #clearly, blib needs to do better, blib won`t get away with his team being slightly less crap than the other team, the public won`t fall for that again

  16. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 13, 2015 3:03 pm

    “Well you go to the next lever.

    Yep.

    Shorten couldn’t even get the party he leads to agree to a some very light reform he committed to.

    If his own party doesn’t support his agenda, why would the voting public?

  17. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 3:05 pm

    to a some very light reform

    What you blabberin’ about willis!

  18. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 3:06 pm

    Finally, some sense on this issue

    All this considered, it was worrying to see many ostensible progressives congratulating the government on what amounts to a pretty authoritarian piece of political theatre. We can agree that anti-vaxxers are wrong about the science, and still be disturbed at the state trying to compel people to do things to their children they would rather not. Anti-vaxxers are not, after all, guilty of a crime of neglect or cruelty: their actions are born of divergent (if scientifically unsound) beliefs about what constitutes child welfare.
    …….
    She suggests that it would be more effective to implement a national vaccine reminder system, home visiting programs, and to build respect for vaccination centres. This, of course, would cost money. On the other hand, punishing parents with reduced incomes inevitably means punishing kids. Abbott christened it a “no jab, no pay” policy: with a name like that, can it really be anything more than a form of displaced social revenge?

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/13/everyone-is-lining-up-to-punish-parents-who-are-anti-vaccination-isnt-that-worrying

  19. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 13, 2015 3:11 pm

    “Not the greatest interview ever, but it has vision and explanations”

    Like this crock of meaningless motherhood blathering?

    Bill Shorten: “Well the Labor Party believes in lots of things, and it’s a great opportunity this morning to talk about some of them. What I fundamentally believe and I think it was Martin Luther King who said this best, but it’s I think true then and it’s true now: ‘everybody is somebody’. I believe in an Australia where everybody gets the chance to fulfil their potential. Where we’re not a divided society but we’re a united society.”

    So there you have it. Even Blib is “somebody”. In his case that would be a careerist Unionland hack who has schemed and knifed his way to the top. And that meaningless drivel is what “somebody” sounds like.

  20. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 3:12 pm

    I believe in an Australia where everybody gets the chance to fulfil their potential. Where we’re not a divided society but we’re a united society

    what a commie!

  21. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 13, 2015 3:17 pm

    Federal Labor leader Bill Shorten has suffered a setback in his home state with the weekend’s party conference in Victoria voting down his preferred “70-30” ¬reforms to reduce union power in ALP preselections.
    Delegates from the Opposition Leader’s own union — the Australian Workers Union — voted against the proposals to increase the weighting of rank-and-file members in preselection contests from 50 per cent to 70 per cent.

    Shorten excused himself from the conference rather than face the humiliation of defeat of a modest and democratic reform.

    If his own party won’t take any notice of him, why would the rest of the voting public?

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/bill-shorten-defied-by-victorian-labor-on-union-power-reforms/story-e6frgczx-1227288400198

  22. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 3:23 pm

    ahh, so, he’s not a dictator. Thanks yomm 😉

  23. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 13, 2015 3:23 pm

    “what a commie”

    What a wanker! The whole thrust of the interview was Blib’s inability to be specific about anything and that he doesn’t have any idea how would fund his promises.

  24. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 13, 2015 3:26 pm

    Good point, ToM. The ALP is a subsidiary (i.e. a controlled entity) of the Unions. That isn’t going to change. It is just entrenched corruption – Union money and power is as corrosive of good government as is the power and influence of property developers.

  25. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 13, 2015 3:27 pm

    Shorten seeks the support of the party he leads to bring in some modest democratic reform.

    His party says NO!

  26. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 13, 2015 3:30 pm

    Democratic reform is anathema in Unionland!

  27. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 3:40 pm

    And yet the Party which is apparently beholden to corrupt Unions is the only one that introduces tax reform that levels the playing field and introduces progressive policies like the NDIS and GONSKI

    Yea, I’ll take your self described “subsidiary” any day 😉

  28. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 13, 2015 3:45 pm

    A subsidiary that denies the people who choose to join a democratic say in it.

  29. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 3:50 pm

    A subsidiary that denies the people who choose to join a democratic say in it.

    Or a subsidiary that allows everyone a vote that equates to their level of involvement is another way of looking at it.

  30. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 13, 2015 3:53 pm

    The party of Unionland corruptocrats is what it is.

  31. TB Queensland permalink
    April 13, 2015 4:01 pm

    Finally, some sense on this issue

    Yeah, TR, that’s been bothering me since it was announced … what about the kids whose parents don’t receive any welfare?

    Ahhhh, they’ll have a few bob and have had an education including some basic science … biology and the like … so don’t need to worry about the rich folk this time …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    … Union money and power is as corrosive of good government as is the power and influence of property developers.

    OR

    … big business money and power is as corrosive of good government as is the power and influence of property developers.

    Democratic reform is anathema in Unionland!

    Is “democratic reform” Libspeak for “ideological reform” or “revenue revenge”?

    I mean we all vote for the Prime Minister according to The Mad Monk and Jockey … dumb and dumber … and luckily most of us know better … don’t we?

    Democracy? Democracy? Where’s that then …?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    WAY OFF TOPIC (Bit like a Foxtel advert)

    POLDARK

    Any fans here who watched the original Poldark series many years ago will not be disappointed with the new 2015 series … started last night on ABC

  32. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 13, 2015 4:07 pm

    “Democracy? Democracy? Where’s that then …?”

    Not in any union if the ALP can help it. Which is why they voted down legislation to put the same fiduciary standards on union leaders as are applied to company directors.

  33. April 13, 2015 4:16 pm

    JON FAINE:””””Bill Shorten is the leader of the Federal Parliamentary Labor Party, is there more too him than just the famous zingers and one liners”””””””'(#from.blib.dot.com)

    #no jon, sadly, there is much, much less

    #guess.what.i.am.reading.team.cheerer

  34. April 13, 2015 4:51 pm

    FFS, gay-marriage, and blib faffs about like mother goose,

    blib.dot.com”””””””””” FAINE: Would you legislate for gay marriage in Australia?

    SHORTEN: I do support marriage equality. I think what we need is a conscience vote in the Parliament, Labor has a conscience vote –

    FAINE: Would you introduce it?”””””””””’

    #blib doesn`t even have the brains to answer this with a straight-up `yes` or `no`, it`s painful to read the transcript of blib blathering, pity the listeners having to put up with blib

    #blib seems to be quite gutless or quite clueless

  35. April 13, 2015 4:57 pm

    “blib seems to be quite gutless or quite clueless””

    or both.

  36. TB Queensland permalink
    April 13, 2015 5:48 pm

    I’d like to know just what negatively geared property EVERY POLITICIAN in this country “owns”!

    Federal – State – Territory – Council!

    Because THAT is the GOLDEN GOOSE for wannabe ROBBER BARONS!

    I own a home – no other property …

  37. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 5:51 pm

    #faine fully pwned blib on `negative gearing`

    I AGREE

    Looks like the ALP aren’t going to tackle that one. Mores the pity. All it needs is a small, incremental change to get the ball rolling.

    blib seems to be quite gutless or quite clueless”

    Tell it to the NDIS 😉

  38. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 13, 2015 6:03 pm

  39. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 6:18 pm

    wow, that’s big news about the Exclusive Brethren AO, especially considering morriscum had said this

    Mr Morrison said parents seeking a religious exception would need to be registered with their church or similar organisation.

    “That’s the only basis upon which you can have a religious exception, and there are no mainstream religions that have such objections registered so this would apply to a very, very small proportion of people,” he said.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-12/parents-who-refuse-to-vaccinate-to-miss-out-on-childcare-rebates/6386448

    The Exclusive Brethren aren’t exactly mainstream, but they are influential (obviously)

    “The choice made by families not to immunise their children is not supported by public policy or medical research, nor should such action be supported by taxpayers in the form of childcare payments,” Mr Abbott added in a joint statement with Mr Morrison.

    Hypocritical choiceless bastards. CHOICE was their mainstay.

    Why can they not simply educate people, instead of making people already sucked in by the same anti-science bullshit the libs rejoice in in other fields? Educate people that cranks and nutters on the innertubes ARE NOT science, they are snake oil salesmen pushing an agenda. They are fine backing these cranks with AGW, and actively perpetrate this form of disinformation, and then want to take money from some poor sod who also bought into the same kind of bullshit.

    Education is the key. But it is never their answer is it.

  40. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 6:23 pm

    Fucken hilarious

    “We’re not going to be imposing new taxes in order to try and recover that lost revenue.”

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-13/joe-hockey-announces-iron-ore-write-off-but-no-new-taxes/6387536

    Of course, being this grubmint, lying is just part of the day.

    The Government has already signalled it is looking at a so-called Google Tax to ensure multi-national companies pay more tax in Australia and a tax on bank deposits.

    Poor widdle hockey wants to cry about Revenue all of a sudden. I reckon Labor should go bug on Waste and Chaos (nah, just joking, but you get it)

    Harden up Princesses. It’s not like you have a GFC or anything to combat, it’s just an economy you piss weak wankers

  41. April 13, 2015 7:06 pm

    Tell it to `this` and tell it to `that` is a piss-weak reply team.cheerer, particularly when raising personal liberties in a so-called democracy where blib smells like a timid catlick, too afraid to upset dog-club. Wake-up. When both teams contain timid creatures that don`t have the nads to get out of the way of citizens personal liberties because they are petrified by a loud minority, does not reflect well on either team or democracy.

  42. April 13, 2015 7:16 pm

    my abc””””””’according to well-connected conservative columnist Niki Savva, Nutt was unable to obtain assurances of access , presumably to the PM , and responsibilities, which is code for Credlin being unwilling to accede to a power-sharing arrangement.

    Nutt joins a growing line of experienced and respected political or policy talent that has either been rebuffed or shown the door by Credlin and Abbott”””””””””

    #niki and paula seem to be indicating that the roles of `puppet` and `master` could be interchangeable armchair

  43. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 7:21 pm

    Tell it to `this` and tell it to `that` is a piss-weak reply team.cheerer

    Perhaps. Yet it still #nailed ya’ 😉

  44. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 7:23 pm

    Open for Business, or 1 million jobs. Whats the biggest joke?

    The renewable energy sector has lost almost 2,500 jobs in the last two years, according to official figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-13/renewable-energy-job-losses/6389242

    And these Muppets are crying about the price of ion-ore dropping. I wonder if perhaps there was another industry not reliant on that that we could pursue ❓ 😯

  45. April 13, 2015 7:34 pm

    guardian””””””””I now know of a couple of mainstream media outlets who have policies of not speaking to anti-vaxers at all when they do science based vaccine stories, which is a fantastic result.”””””

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/16/anti-vaccination-activists-should-not-be-given-a-say-in-the-media

    +

    guardian””””””’Anti-vaccination is a fringe opinion. For every 5 doctors who oppose vaccination there are 95 who support it. We are not obliged to provide equal time and space to unscientific and dangerous viewpoints.”””””’

    #similar ratio to environmental-denial

    #if only my abc would adopt the `bbc` idea too, like the guardian has, cranks are cranks, and denying the earth is `round` won`t make it `flat`

  46. April 13, 2015 7:52 pm

    fascinating team-cheerer, l never realized blathering blib being timid on gay-marriage (and probably voluntary euthanasia) had anything to do with `disability` and #nailed me and `democracy` too, l suppose. l guess wanting better performance of both teams on topics that would cost little to no taxpayer dollars is too much to ask of either team. As long as the `cheerers` are happy, that`s all that matters l suppose.

  47. Tom R permalink
    April 13, 2015 9:26 pm

    gay-marriage (and probably voluntary euthanasia) had anything to do with `disability`

    Yea, just keep bleating with ya list of wants whilst studiously ignoring everything Labor (and Shorten) have already fulfilled for you from your list. And within a poisoned environment where their well resourced enemies will do everything to tear them down. Just jump on the tearing down team and help out those who want to tear it all down cos it aint all happening and it aint all happening NOW()

  48. Tom R permalink
    April 14, 2015 8:16 am

    You really gotta laugh at Hockey, the libs and their spruikers. Years of sprouting on about Labors alleged “Debt and deficit disaster”, and now, apparently, their job of fixing this mess is being made more difficult because of “lower revenue” ROFL

    Yet the media will still run this line for them I’m sure. Well, not all, but murdochs hacks certainly will. And recall, this relates to the post at April 13, 2015 6:23 pm

    “Quite frankly, I really wish I had the revenue that Peter Costello had,” he told the ABC’s AM program.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-14/economic-reform-only-way-to-solve-gst-battle-hockey/6390338

    It’s fucken priceless really. 6 years of steadfastly refusing to accept reality, now it is upon them. And, not only that, but they have also undone most of the actions Labor took to re-balance the budget. A fuckup of stupendous magnitude. Will they have the balls to right the wrongs of the past?

    Call it karma. It has fallen to Joe Hockey to undo two of the stupidest and potentially most expensive decisions ever made by an Australian government.

    They were made by the Howard government of which Hockey was a part. But they were driven by its treasurer, Peter Costello, and by the Treasury itself.

    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/why-hockey-will-have-to-clean-up-costellos-superannuation-mess-in-may-budget-20150413-1mi15l.html

  49. Tom R permalink
    April 14, 2015 8:17 am

    And Now for Something Completely Different

  50. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 14, 2015 8:43 am

    Thanks for that Tom R. It is a whole lot more interesting than the wares you are usually hawking.

  51. Tom R permalink
    April 14, 2015 8:52 am

    It is a whole lot more interesting than the wares you are usually hawking.

    A change is as good as a holiday sb, said some moron who never had a real holiday 😉

    But back to mine normal “Hawkings’ 🙂

    Hypocrites spelt Large

    University of Sydney associate professor Julie Leask said the federal government’s move to prevent parents who don’t vaccinate their children from accessing childcare payments and family tax benefits would not have a “meaningful” impact on overall immunisation rates.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/abbott-government-vaccination-plan-wont-work-expert-20150413-1mjyhw.html?

    Mind you, my problem is with a grubmint that ran on anti-science, and against nanny states, is now hitting the poor (and this time ignorant) people INSTEAD of educating them. When it appears that even the dumbest fuck out there can be educated.

  52. TB Queensland permalink
    April 14, 2015 10:18 am

    When thieves fall out! LOL!

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/liberals-line-up-to-attack-abbott-governments-economic-plan/story-fn84fgcm-1227302897668

    Now I’ve met Wayne Swan on a number of occasions and he’s a nice bloke but I never had much faith in him as Treasurer … but he shines when it comes to the present rabble …

    If I was looking at the government as a business right now I would see an organisation with no planning skills, no leadership skills, no organising skills and no controlling skills … and I’d predict that they would be out of business in less than six months …

    The Mad Monk & The Acolytes are lucky they don’t run a business and they wont be out of work so soon … pity most of them will still be getting paid tho’ …

  53. TB Queensland permalink
    April 14, 2015 10:22 am

    Brought up the subject of negative gearing last night at a meeting … easy to see who has negatively geared property by the aggressive defence … it truly was astounding!

  54. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 14, 2015 10:58 am

    Call it karma. It has fallen to Joe Hockey to undo two of the stupidest and potentially most expensive decisions ever made by an Australian government.

    And you are at it again. One week you say that the Howard/Costello govt was the highest taxing govt in history and anybody could run a surplus if they taxed like Costello eg the tax to GDP ratio picture that was posted the other day. However the next week you say Costello tax cuts are causing us problems.

    Perhaps you just hate the Coalition

    It’s fucken priceless really. 6 years of steadfastly refusing to accept reality, now it is upon them.

    For once I would agree with you if Hockey could get his spending cuts through the Senate. But he can’t because they are apparently unfair and the Senate refuses to pass them.

    It is not obvious to Labor supporters but Costello was a quality Treasurer. Costello made it look easy so stupid people eg Swan and to some extent Hockey thought it would be easy.

  55. April 14, 2015 10:59 am

    “”easy to see who has negatively geared property by the aggressive defence””

    If the govt decides to tamper with the current negative gearing rort scam entitlements, I’ll personally come round there and deck ya!

  56. TB Queensland permalink
    April 14, 2015 12:30 pm

    Hehehe … WCProperty Magnate! 🙂

  57. TB Queensland permalink
    April 14, 2015 12:45 pm

    Jockey’s guesses are as good as any other Treasurer’s … so there …

    Mr Hockey is predicting a further drop in the iron ore price to $US35 ($A46.13) per tonne compared to his $US60 forecast in December, which would wipe $A25 billion off revenue over the next four years.

    So the Liberal Party Cra’ked Crystal Balls are alive and well I see …

    Wish I could tell what would happen in the next four weeks, let alone the next fkn four years … these arrogant pricks are so amusing at times it’s sickening …

    Fix today – yesterday has gone and tomorrow’s not yet arrived …

  58. Walrus permalink
    April 14, 2015 1:42 pm

    “”Wish I could tell what would happen in the next four weeks, let alone the next fkn four years ……….””

    Hockey is taking a very conservative approach as that would be an average price over 4 years (it would go lower) and would basically leave Rio and BHP as the only producers O/S China as at those levels even Vale (of Brazil) would be under water.

    And don’t forget that Rio and BHP have First Tier mines which produce much higher quality ore which fetches a lot more than $35 pt.

    Twiggy with his low quality ferrous filings is in BIG TROUBLE at those prices and wont survive and Gina must be slightly concerned. As the suppliers fall over so does the supply and slowly up creeps the price.

  59. April 14, 2015 1:52 pm

    Smaller iron ore producers struggle to break even http://ab.co/1CROVkr

  60. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 14, 2015 2:32 pm

    Wish I could tell what would happen in the next four weeks, let alone the next fkn four years

    I am guessing that is required for the budget. I think the forward estimates are tabled for the next 4 years. It is called a budget. You have to have a go at the future.

  61. TB Queensland permalink
    April 14, 2015 3:03 pm

    As the suppliers fall over so does the supply and slowly up creeps the price.

    I agree with the facts (ie Twiggy v BHPB and Rio – Gina’s got nuclear bombs remember?) but no-one can forecast out to 4 years … and nail it … 12 months is difficult enough … but …

    “WEAVING A NET IS BETTER THAN PRAYING FOR FISH AT THE EDGE OF THE WATER” (Chinese proverb)

    Plus the rumour that China may shift its economic focus away from infrastructure to a consumer led economy … and THAT”S what Jockey should be looking at sponsoring for Australia … particularly training, admin services, food supply, tourism …

  62. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 14, 2015 3:14 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_estimates

    “Forward estimates are budget projections for revenue, expenses and financial position for the three years beyond the current (budgeted) fiscal year. The “forward estimates” system evolved in Australia from the late 1970s through the 1980s[1] and is used at both the Federal and State levels.

    The forward estimates provide a mechanism for discipline within the budgeting process that enables a greater focus on strategic policy issues,[1] and provide a strategic framework for budgetary decision making in the medium-term.[2] Depending on the context, [3] the forward estimates period can refer to the three years following the budget year or the four years inclusive of the budget year.”

  63. Tom R permalink
    April 14, 2015 3:20 pm

    oh nIls He of the “Swan’s forecasts”

    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

    😯 😯 😯 😯 😯 😯 😯

  64. Tom R permalink
    April 14, 2015 3:21 pm

    WHADAYA mean I’m still in moderation!! 🙂

    Guess this’ll go there too 😉

  65. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 14, 2015 3:33 pm

    Yeah Swan didn’t even get close. We will find out in September how far out Hockey is.

    And there goes TomR again. And people wonder why i do not trust anything a Labor supporter says.

    Koukouklas said the Howard/Costello govt was the highest taxing govt in history.

    At the same time Costello gave tax cuts which apparently destroyed the budget.

    Both statements cannot be true. What is true is that ALP supporters are deceitful people.

  66. Tom R permalink
    April 14, 2015 3:47 pm

    Both statements cannot be true

    Perhaps you should check the dates of the tax cuts bright eyes 😉

  67. Walrus permalink
    April 14, 2015 3:55 pm

    “Perhaps you should check the dates of the tax cuts bright eyes”

    NoS

    The best way to attack TomR is a frontal assault upon his senses

    Take that ……………..

  68. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 14, 2015 3:56 pm

    You know lefties just play politics with anything.

    Reversal of tax cuts are the easiest thing to do if you have the numbers in both houses. Labor bragged about how much legislation it got through parliament.

    Why didn’t Swan reverse the Costello tax cuts?

    Lefties just play politics. Most things that concern lefties when the Coalition is in office do not rate when Labor is in power.

    Like nobody cared when Labor locked up record numbers of kids. That is until the Coalition was elected.

  69. TB Queensland permalink
    April 14, 2015 4:01 pm

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ …. ZZZZZZZZZZ

  70. Walrus permalink
    April 14, 2015 4:16 pm

    “wow, that’s big news about the Exclusive Brethren AO,”

    Yes I’m sure its big news to them as well…………..

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/vaccinationexempt-church-revealed-as-christian-scientists-20150414-1mkmj8.html

  71. TB Queensland permalink
    April 14, 2015 4:35 pm

    Yes I’m sure its big news to them as well…………..

    I see no reason for any child to be exempted unless the grounds are medical …

    Just as I see no income earned by any organisation to be exempt from taxes … 20% a good start …

  72. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 14, 2015 5:09 pm

    Lefties are so deceitful. For years they said the Howard tax cuts destroyed the budget. Then they come out and say they were the highest taxing in history. Now Peter Martin is back again saying Costello tax cuts destroyed the budget.

    Here is Koukoulas saying the opposite in 2012 when Rudd/Gillard was in power.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-14/koukoulas-the-better-economic-manager/4427680

    The budget papers also show that the Howard government was the highest taxing government in Australia’s history…………………All of this suggests that the current government and the Labor Party more generally are low taxing and the only side of politics willing to cut spending when required.

  73. Splatterbottom permalink
    April 14, 2015 5:30 pm

    Snipers, TB! Fucking snipers are the answer to everything. Anti-vaccination morons – snipers with vax darts for them and their kids. Hockey and Cormann having a cigar on the balcony – snipers. Bullets love Belgians, I’ll tell you what! We need more snipers to make the world a better place.

  74. Tom R permalink
    April 14, 2015 5:40 pm

    snipers with vax darts for them

    Let Jerry Cornelius sort ’em out!

    Lefties are so deceitful.

    nIls is so stoopids 😯

  75. TB Queensland permalink
    April 14, 2015 6:31 pm

    Snipers, TB! Fucking snipers are the answer to everything.

    Noice play on words there, cobber … 🙂

  76. TB Queensland permalink
    April 14, 2015 6:31 pm

    Look out, sb!

    Phfffft!

  77. TB Queensland permalink
    April 14, 2015 6:36 pm

    ToM, I’ve just unsubscribed – OK!

    https://www.luluandlipstick.com/

    Phfffft!

  78. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 14, 2015 8:44 pm

    Nice TB. The lips look familiar, very popular at the “dancing studio”

  79. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 8:19 am

    Koukouklas said the Howard/Costello govt was the highest taxing govt in history.

    At the same time Costello gave tax cuts which apparently destroyed the budget.

    Some simple facts for nIls

  80. TB Queensland permalink
    April 15, 2015 8:24 am

    Business Spectator h/line – Iron ore over $50 ton … what will today’s prediction for 2019 be, I wonder?

  81. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 8:38 am

    We are not yet in the danger zone, but if those two trends continue there is the risk of falling into recession. To avert that risk it would be better, at this point in time, to find ways to stimulate the demand side of the economy
    …….
    In December 2013, his first budget document – the mid-year economic and fiscal outlook (MYEFO) – shocked everyone by blowing Labor’s projected deficit out by around $20 billion. About half of that was a one-off recapitalisation of the RBA, which really wasn’t needed.

    What few appreciated at the time is that Mr Hockey was just trying to borrow a good chunk of money while rates were low – 3.4 per cent on 10-year bonds.

    Now that the government’s borrowing rate is even lower (2.34 per cent at the time of writing), Mr Hockey would be wise to pile on the debt, with a view to cutting borrowing more in subsequent years.

    That’s the dilemma. Mr Hockey knows what he needs to do, but second only to Prime Minister Tony Abbott he’s the storyteller who convinced the nation it can’t be done.

    http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2015/04/14/rob-burgess-budget-households-meltdown/

    Will they die by their lies? Will they drag us down with them?

  82. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 8:40 am

    what will today’s prediction for 2019 be, I wonder?

    That it will not be the same as now?

  83. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 8:46 am

    Speaking in predictive terms TB

    The price of wind and solar power continues to plummet, and is now on par or cheaper than grid electricity in many areas of the world. Solar, the newest major source of energy in the mix, makes up less than 1 percent of the electricity market today but will be the world’s biggest single source by 2050, according to the International Energy Agency.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-14/fossil-fuels-just-lost-the-race-against-renewables

    Of course, our present grubmint blunders on with their heads well and truly ensconced in fossilised sands.

    The white paper uses the International Energy Agency’s “New Policies” scenarios to encourage expanded exports of fossil fuels from Australia. “New Policies” reflects policies announced some time ago. The IEA says that this scenario is unsustainable because it is likely to lead to an intolerable increase in world temperatures. Nor does the paper recognise that these projections of Chinese and global demand for coal are already obsolete. This obsolescence means that tens of billions of dollars of investment in expanding coal supply capacity will never return the cost of capital. A better-informed government might have encouraged caution into private decisions, instead of reinforcing errors.

    http://www.afr.com/opinion/columns/abbott-governments-energy-white-paper-fails-to-face-reality-20150414-1mkroh

  84. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 8:49 am

    Dr Karl tries desperately to retrieve some dignity from that loast when dealing with this grubmint

    “And the frog says, ‘Hey, you stabbed me, I’m going to die! And so are you! Why’d you do that? Are you crazy?’ And the scorpion said, ‘I can’t help it. It’s my nature.’

    “It was my fault for not realising the nature of the beast that I was involved with.

    “I really thought that it would be an independent, bipartisan, non-political document.”

    However, Dr Kruszelnicki said he had not asked for the ad campaign to stop.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-15/dr-karl-backs-away-from-political-intergenerational-report/6393152

  85. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 15, 2015 9:11 am

  86. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 15, 2015 9:22 am

    …Dr Karl tries desperately to retrieve some dignity from that loast when dealing with this grubmint…

    If you lay down with dogs…

    I find it hard to believe that Dr Karl was so innocent that he thought they would just do the right thing, when every other report and everything this govt touches is highly political and partisan, certainly not independent. He sold out for some gold coins.

  87. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 15, 2015 9:24 am

    That’s interesting AO. Should an employee have to risk their job because they attended the ‘wrong’ type of political rally?

  88. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 9:31 am

    Perhaps follow the much maligned “linky” yomm to see an explanation 😉

    The members of the “emergency response team” at Nauru, who were hired on the basis of their cultural “sensitivity”, have been stood down pending an investigation into their social media use.

    The guards had appeared to endorse Hanson’s anti-immigration politics, and some promoted the Reclaim Australia movement and posted anti-Islam slurs online.

    A former employee for Transfield subcontractor Wilson Security told Guardian Australia the guards’ online posts provided a glimpse of the mindset of ex-defence force personnel who “frequently referred to asylum seekers in their care as ‘the enemy’ ”.

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/apr/14/detention-centre-guards-suspended-over-photo-with-pauline-hanson-at-rally?CMP=share_btn_tw

  89. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 15, 2015 9:44 am

    Would you agree that it’s a slippery slope when employees risk their employment for expressing legal political options?

  90. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 15, 2015 9:45 am

  91. April 15, 2015 9:50 am

    From AO’s link:

    Dr Kruszelnicki said: “The only reason I agreed to do it [promote the report] is because I was told that it would be independent, bipartisan and non-political. [and they paid me a shitload of money]..

  92. TB Queensland permalink
    April 15, 2015 9:52 am

    NEGATIVE GEARING – FACT!

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/taxpayers-fork-out-as-investors-fill-pockets/story-fni0fiyv-1227304073156#itm=newscomau%7Chome%7Cnca-homepage-masthead-feature%7C3%7Cheading%7Chomepage%7Chomepage&itmt=1429055383610

    ALMOST 30,000 people have five or more homes negatively geared for tax offsets, costing the nation up to $5 billion a year in lost revenue.

    ATO figures show 15,264 landlords own at least six investment properties, which they claim run at a loss.

    Another 14,555 own five.

    Negative gearing sees owners able to claim as tax deductions all costs associated with that property, including mortgage interest — so they aim to ensure that the costs are greater than the rental income.

  93. April 15, 2015 9:57 am

  94. April 15, 2015 9:57 am

    $339? What a bargain!

  95. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 10:03 am

    Would you agree that it’s a slippery slope when employees risk their employment for expressing legal political options?

    So (possibly) displaying violent racist tendencies (while being in a paid position of power over other said races) is being rebadged as expressing legal political options 😯

  96. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 15, 2015 10:03 am

    That’s interesting AO. Should an employee have to risk their job because they attended the ‘wrong’ type of political rally?…

    Aren’t they supposed to be professional and apolitical?

    They work in an area that has documented reports and evidence of their own torture and abuse of detainees, should they really be attending a hate rally supported by the likes of neo nazis?

    Makes me wonder if they are psychologically profiled to be accepted because they are xenophobic nationalists who hate the very people they are paid to torment detain.

  97. TB Queensland permalink
    April 15, 2015 10:03 am

    He sold out for some gold coins.

    And the way the ads burble he sold out the older generation! His own generation Judas Kruszelnicki … must have been silver coins!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The price of wind and solar power continues to plummet, and is now on par or cheaper than grid electricity in many areas of the world.

    But they are so noisy, TR* … The Mad Abbott & The Acolytes have their heads up their arses … and each others!

    They think stimulus is a chewing gum … the worsest government I’ve ever booed!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That’s interesting AO. Should an employee have to risk their job because they attended the ‘wrong’ type of political rally?

    What?

    Would you agree that it’s a slippery slope when employees risk their employment for expressing legal political options?

    Legal? political opinions … if you mean the Intergen Report it was Jockey doctored and is not a legal document … it is now a political document … and employees are able to say no its wrong … particularly “employees” with celebrity status like Dr KK …

  98. TB Queensland permalink
    April 15, 2015 10:04 am

    ToM, missed the Hanson photo … in reply … no they shouldn’t – even tho’ they look like a bunch of dickheads …

  99. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 10:05 am

    $339? What a bargain!

    Typo?

    Mind you, whatever costs are involved, should be met by the morons who drew up a contract when the outcome rested on an election where one side was dead against said contract.

    Royal Commission anyone (if they are worth anything at all these days)

  100. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 10:07 am

    This is appropriate

  101. TB Queensland permalink
    April 15, 2015 10:07 am

    Aren’t they supposed to be professional and apolitical?

    I see at is a photo shoot … a group selfie … fkn stupid but I want the same rights as they seem to abuse …

    Every strength has its weakness …

  102. TB Queensland permalink
    April 15, 2015 10:11 am

    Re: ANZAC … I mentioned last night watching the Power of Ten (really interesting) that I will get pissed off if the 100 year remembrance (Note! It is not a celebration!) … is continually commercialised … and its happening now … some subtle, some not so subtle …

  103. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 10:13 am

    in reply … no they shouldn’t

    Did you read the extended explanation from the Guardian I posted to above (and which was linked to from AO’s posted weet

  104. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 15, 2015 10:21 am

    Would you agree that it’s a slippery slope when employees risk their employment for expressing legal political options?

    Pretty sure the code of conduct that they signed up to might say something about their representation of company values and professional behaviour.

  105. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 15, 2015 10:28 am

    …A former employee for Transfield subcontractor Wilson Security told Guardian Australia the guards’ online posts provided a glimpse of the mindset of ex-defence force personnel who “frequently referred to asylum seekers in their care as ‘the enemy’ ”…

    Sexism, physical aggression, trained to see the enemy as less than human and deserving of being killed.

  106. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 15, 2015 11:05 am

    Which is the party of lower taxes in Australia? Hmmm.
    Bernard Keane

    And that is exactly my point. The ALP cheersquad says opposite things.

    For years they claimed the Costello tax cuts destroyed the budget. Keane now says the ALP is the party of lower taxes. So does Koukoulas who says the Howard/Costello govt was the highest taxing govt in Australian history.

    Lefties are so deceitful and just make stuff up.

  107. TB Queensland permalink
    April 15, 2015 11:59 am

    Did you read the extended explanation from the Guardian I posted to above (and which was linked to from AO’s posted tweet

    Just did, TR, and your right, I only commented on the photo …

    … Transfield’s background checks come into question, hey? …

    … but then free speech is free speech …

    None of them seem to have been found “guilty” of anything except having potty mouths … on “social” media … and associating with Pantsonfire … the anti-social rantings on zombie phones from many people are questionable to say the least …

    Have the “guards” been found guilty of anything? (‘cept possible breach of contract?)

    I do object to the blanket tarring tho’ … online posts provided a glimpse of the mindset of ex-defence force personnel … for personal reasons if nothing else …

    And the soldiers from the Afghanistan conflict I’ve spoken to have a great deal of respect for the “enemy” … just as we were taught during the VN BS …

  108. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 12:04 pm

    None of them seem to have been found “guilty” of anything

    No, which would be why they are only suspended at the moment.

    I think people should be free to associate with who they please, but, if your contract has limitations, then you need to be aware of that when you sign up.

  109. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 12:25 pm

  110. TB Queensland permalink
    April 15, 2015 1:16 pm

    TR, do you have a subscription for The Oz? Cause I don’t and never will …

    Your comment might be right re The Oz but the Canberra Leaners haven’t given the go ahead and lambasted Triggs yet!

  111. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 15, 2015 1:22 pm

    Triggs is an immoral piece of filth like the ALP. Triggs belongs in the ALP.

  112. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 1:38 pm

    but the Canberra Leaners haven’t given the go ahead and lambasted Triggs yet!

    The oz has been having a go at Triggs for months. Or am I misunderstanding your comment?

    No, I don’t have a subscription, but I clicked the link and it was available (unfortunately)

    Thought you might like this tweet TB 😉

  113. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 15, 2015 1:44 pm

    “The oz has been having a go at Triggs for months.”

    Me too.

    Triggs is an immoral piece of filth. She has never stated who she votes for but we all know. Immoral pieces of filth vote for filth.

    I wonder if Triggs votes for the ALP?

  114. TB Queensland permalink
    April 15, 2015 2:42 pm

    “”” … but the Canberra Leaners haven’t given the go ahead and lambasted Triggs yet!”””

    Oops, not having a good day today!

    … meant Dr KK …

    And in further motoring news … this is really quite dangerous stuff … not all overseas cars are manufactured to Australian Design Rules (ADR) or Australasian New Car Assessment Program (ANCAP) … that means not only the owner but YOU and ME are at risk on the roads!

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/controversial-changes-to-car-import-laws-to-be-revealed-by-the-end-of-this-week/story-fnkgdhrc-1227304649098

    Another poorly thought out government policy … how do you make a small fortune – start with a big one … how do you destroy an industry – piece by piece …

  115. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 15, 2015 2:46 pm

    Aren’t they supposed to be professional and apolitical?

    Yes, and plenty of employers (as Tom R points out) have policies regarding social networking and posting opinion or material that is contrary to their interests.

    It’s a fine line between curtailing the expression of lawful political opinion and protecting the interests of the employer when the employer is engaged in activities that are of political interest.

    For example, I had an involvement in the roll out of the NBN, should my comments on the politics of it been prevented/curtailed/censored?

  116. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 15, 2015 3:03 pm

    I believe that governments should be liable for not taking steps to keep their citizens safe from a known and preventable global warming, for refusing to regulate the polluters and their lack of advocacy for alternatives..
    Looking the other way and pretending there’s a personal choice whether to believe in it or not [like faith in a god] is deliberate and wilful negligence.

    Dutch government taken to court over climate change
    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn27347-dutch-government-taken-to-court-over-climate-change.html#.VS3oedykeSo

    …Urgenda is suing the Dutch government on behalf of some 900 citizens, including children. The suit claims that the government’s action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions is insufficient, and is therefore “knowingly exposing its own citizens to dangerous situations”…

    …”It would be groundbreaking for Urgenda to win,” says James Arrandale of the London-based environmental law firm Client Earth. He says it would lead to similar suits in other countries. A Belgian group is already on the case…

  117. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 3:12 pm

    should my comments on the politics of it been prevented/curtailed/censored?

    If you’d said “ignored” you’d have had me on side 😉

    But, the case with the detention guards (?) is not as simple as them attending a rally. There (appears) to be a fairly deep undercurrent of aggression towards immigrants in general.

    Do you think that is appropriate for someone who has that much power over them?

  118. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 3:16 pm

    From your link TB

    Senator Carr said the government is “doing everything it can to kill off the auto industry”.

    Has he been asleep since he lost the election. The auto industry is dead, buried, cremated. The libs made sure of that as one of their first acts of bastardy.

  119. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 15, 2015 3:28 pm

    “The libs made sure of that as one of their first acts of bastardy.”

    Even more lies.

    Why did Ford up and leave under Rudd?

    It was Ford leaving meaning it was all over. Actually it was all over way before Ford up and left. The only time you stop telling lies is when you are in your coffin.

  120. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 3:31 pm

    … meant Dr KK …

    That’s what this little piece of drivel by the dog botherer was doing TB. Seems that whilst he was spruiking the grubmints line, all was well and good. But once he strayed from the path (and, it wasn’t very far from it) out come the attack dog (so to speak). I didn’t realised it was locked. Link worked for me when I clicked from the twit before, but is now locked. I pulled a google, and here is some of the garbage

    ……..
    It seemed ridiculous form the start to have a person who is clearly antipathetic to the Coalition and virtually all it stands for spruiking a crucial government message.

    Think about it. Where would you go if you needed to find visceral anti-Coalition voices?

    Your safest bet, perhaps even ahead of trades hall, would always be the ABC or a university.

    So the government went with a bloke who earns his living spruiking his views at both Sydney University and the ABC’s Triple J youth network.

    Now, Dr Karl Kruszelnicki has become a prominent critic of the very report the government has paid our tax dollars for him to promote.

    He has told the ABC that it is “flawed” and that he “should have insisted there be climate change” in it.

    What an own goal.

    This is the equivalent of Meat and Livestock Australia dumping Sam Kekovich from its lamb commercials and replacing him with Gwyneth Paltrow.

    If that doesn’t tell you something about the intergenerational challenge of governments constantly wasting our taxes in counterproductive ways, nothing will.

    A kind of perpetually-teenaged version of Professor Julius Sumner-Miller, Dr Karl helps to popularise science.

    But he always has an ear to the Green Left trends of his audience; he even ran on a climate change ticket for the NSW Senate in 2007.

    You can see how an advertising agency would have recommended him — trustworthy on science and hip with the social media crowd, they would have said — but the government should have known better and gone with someone with credibility on economics and disconnected from political grandstanding.

    Putting an ABC leftie on a stage in what looks suspiciously like a pyjama top is not a way to suddenly win over the Green Left and youth vote with your economically rational arguments — it is a way to waste taxpayers’ money chasing popularity with a crowd who will never vote for you, and miss your opportunity to make an important point.

    Better to save taxpayers the cost of the campaign and just spruik the importance of the report yourselves — you know, like politicians used to do, by advocating and prosecuting arguments.

    As for Dr Karl, for a bloke who prides himself on evidence-based science he has demonstrated an alarming lack of diligence.

    He admits to not reading all of the report before agreeing to promote it.

    It was only after filming his spots that he decided it didn’t have enough pages on climate change.

    (Although how climate change is going to help repay government debt, he doesn’t say — at the moment renewable energy targets, solar subsidies, carbon tax compensation and billions of dollars of mothballed desalination plants have only hurt state and federal budgets.)

    So why would a popular science communicator spruik something he hadn’t read and subsequently doesn’t fully support?

    Fairfax Media published an answer last month: “He agreed to do it to support long-term policy making and because he gets paid ‘bugger all’ by his employers, the ABC and the University of Sydney, he said.”

    We don’t know how much he was paid but trust it has enabled taxpayers to help secure his retirement plans.

    Fucken hilarious hearing the kenny whinging about someone not reading a report as an alarming lack of diligence Not that it isn’t, it is, and Dr Karl was a fool not to, but cast your mind back into the not too distant past when kenny etal was busy vilifying Gillian Triggs with the help of a commission who refused to even read a report they were vilifying her over.

    Well, not so much hilarious, as just fucken stoopid verging on the nIl scale of stoopid. (see his comment above if you dare)

  121. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 3:34 pm

    Just read the full article from the Kim Carr article, and looks like I went off half cocked. He was talking about the automotive dealers. So he has been awake.

  122. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 15, 2015 3:38 pm

    …But, the case with the detention guards (?) is not as simple as them attending a rally. There (appears) to be a fairly deep undercurrent of aggression towards immigrants in general.

    Do you think that is appropriate for someone who has that much power over them?…

    Exactly.

    One of them has a tattoo on his neck saying “infidel” and another has ‘infidel’ written on his T-Shirt. Such is their commitment to race hate and anti muslim advocacy. Why would they be doing that?

    Detainees wouldn’t get fair treatment from the likes of them. They look muscled up too, ready to smash heads and kick the living shit out of anyone at any time!

  123. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 3:48 pm

    Detainees wouldn’t get fair treatment from the likes of them.

    That’s the heart of the matter isn’t it AO. And, it really looks like they are almost selected because of those attributes instead of being disregarded for them.

    “There’s a fox, among the chickens, and a killer in the hounds”

  124. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 15, 2015 4:01 pm

    Peter Costello’s five most ‘profligate’ decisions as treasurer cost the budget $56bn a year:
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/15/peter-costellos-five-most-profligate-decisions-as-treasurer-cost-the-budget-56bn-a-year

    …1. Permanent income tax cuts during the boom. Worth $37.6bn or $26.4bn if you exclude bracket creep in 2011-12

    2. Capital gains tax discount. Worth $5.8bn in 2014-15

    3. Got rid of fuel excise indexation. Worth $5.5bn in 2013-14

    4. Superannuation tax cuts. Worth $2.5bn in 2009-10

    5. The decision to convert “franking credits” into cash refunds for shareholders

    However, in 2000, Costello made the system even more generous to shareholders by allowing them to get a cash refund if they receive more in franking credits than they actually owe in tax. Because income from superannuation is tax free for people over 60, high income retirees can use franking credits to get a cash gift of over 40 cents for every dollar they receive in dividends.

    The ATO estimates that Costello’s decision to allow “excess” franking credits to be refunded as cash cost $4.6bn in 2012-13.

    These five changes are worth $56bn per annum. This is likely to be a very conservative estimate since some of these costs were for earlier years. The total is likely to be much more…

  125. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 15, 2015 5:35 pm

    Too funny.

    The lefties are now play the game “lets blame everyone else for the mess we created”

    We are only having these stupid posts because we got rid of Howard/Costello in 2007.

    We deserve deficit budgets and we deserve to lose our credit rating

  126. Tom R permalink
    April 15, 2015 5:53 pm

    The lefties are now play the game

    Just a heads up nIl, it was hockey crying about “falling receipts”. Not sure he could be classified as a “lefty”.

    He really is a stoopid man. Are you related?

  127. TB Queensland permalink
    April 15, 2015 6:05 pm

    http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/researchers-believe-a-biological-revolution-enabling-humans-to-experience-everlasting-youthfulness-is-coming/story-fnpjxnqt-1227304902553

    LOL! Jockey will be pleased … but he needs to start working on providing more jobs rather than farting around ringing bells …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    NEGATIVE GEARING – FACT! A Quick $5 Billion for Jockey!

    These people are running a BUSINESS! TAX ‘EM!

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/taxpayers-fork-out-as-investors-fill-pockets/story-fni0fiyv-1227304073156#itm=newscomau%7Chome%7Cnca-homepage-masthead-feature%7C3%7Cheading%7Chomepage%7Chomepage&itmt=1429055383610

    ALMOST 30,000 people have five or more homes negatively geared for tax offsets, costing the nation up to $5 billion a year in lost revenue.

    ATO figures show 15,264 landlords own at least six investment properties, which they claim run at a loss.

    Another 14,555 own five.

    Negative gearing sees owners able to claim as tax deductions all costs associated with that property, including mortgage interest — so they aim to ensure that the costs are greater than the rental income.

    .

  128. TB Queensland permalink
    April 15, 2015 6:09 pm

    ‘You can’t have a strong society without a strong economy to support it,’ says Abbott, getting it back-to-front as usual.

    As you’ve probably guessed, TR, I’m in real catch-up mode today!

    We should remind Abbott that a strong society delivers a strong economy … not the other way around …

    And just a reminder …

    —————————-
    Prosperity with Integrity!
    —————————-
    I prefer to thrive in a society,
    Not survive in an economy!

    —————————-

  129. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 15, 2015 6:34 pm

    Just a heads up nIl, it was hockey crying about “falling receipts”. Not sure he could be classified as a “lefty”.

    As we all know there are lies damn lies and statistics.

    But your graph shows that the Howard/Costello govt was a high taxing govt. Which is what Koukoulas has been saying.

    Why then for years were you lefties complaining about the Costello tax cuts which i think he gave every year he was in power?

    And Hockey is no Costello but he is better than Swan.

  130. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 15, 2015 8:36 pm

    http://slackbastard.anarchobase.com/

    “Two Greek anarchists are making molotov cocktails. One says to the other: “So who will we throw these at then?” The other replies: “What are you, some kind of fucking intellectual?”

  131. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 15, 2015 8:59 pm

    I know that dr karl’s been copping a lot of flak from social media.

    I think he has been honourable, he’s admitted he was wrong and then sought to publicly rectify it, plus now not going to keep any of the profits.

    I don’t know what more he could do to make amends for his poor judgement in trusting the LNP.

  132. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 15, 2015 9:05 pm

    The Dr Karl deadbeat is only worried about the part about Climate Change. He supports the rest.

  133. April 15, 2015 9:47 pm

    Interesting everyone’s a deadbeat in Nils world except John Howard and Peter Costello 🙄

    Dr Karl can suck my cock.

    He has your expressed permission then Reb?

  134. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 15, 2015 10:14 pm

    Bit harsh reb

    I see you’re in the same camp as the unforgiving sortius, while I’m with weez, after all it wasn’t dr karl who behaved deceitfully, it was the government.

  135. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 15, 2015 11:55 pm

    APS department orders report to be rewritten 16 times
    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/public-service/aps-department-orders-report-to-be-rewritten-16-times-20150415-1mki3m.html

    …A Commonwealth department has produced 17 versions of a consultant’s report, amid accusations the document was redrafted until it told departmental bosses what they wanted to hear…

  136. April 16, 2015 1:28 am

    Karl””””takes the money but feels dirty afterwards, `flawed` Intergenerational Report”””””””””’

    #No surprise here #l couldn`t believe he was peddling it when l saw the advert #Shows everybody has their price #He should have known better after the treatment of Flannery #Education does not equate to wisdom #Played like a fiddle by the teabags

  137. April 16, 2015 1:47 am

    This””””””gormless knob has just sent 300 of our troops to Iraq and doesn`t know the name of ISILs leader”””””””””

    #the andrews zombie was fully pwned on reportland and quite unsurprising, l think the rancid turd was the halfwit teabag behind the dr-haneef disaster #go.team!

  138. April 16, 2015 2:07 am

    that””””means not only the owner but YOU and ME are at risk on the roads!””””””””’

    #Good to see some of my bleating is sinking in teebz. #Off-shoring is `all` about avoiding/getting-around `all` kinds of `rules`, `laws` and `standards` that have been fought for and hard won. Which means our market-place now supports by default, everything from slavery to contaminated foods and unsafe/dangerous product.

    #As a side-note, soon you won`t have a choice on gm-food, west-coast court system has already set precedent in favor of a `monsanto` farmer whose crop contaminated an `organic` farm. East-coast coming soon.

  139. April 16, 2015 8:50 am

    “”Bit harsh reb”””

    Agreed. I apologise and retract that mark.

  140. April 16, 2015 9:07 am

    Carl not sucking cock

    The Americans dont want ISDS but Abbott is intent on sucking that cock

  141. April 16, 2015 9:09 am

  142. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 16, 2015 9:15 am

    Agreed. I apologise and retract that mark.

    Very generous of you but certainly no need to go that far at all!

  143. TB Queensland permalink
    April 16, 2015 9:15 am

    self moderation or power of the people? Or both!

    What a bizarre blog … has Kamahl retired?

  144. TB Queensland permalink
    April 16, 2015 9:16 am

    I must say – having got here “late” I was somewhat confused with RP’s comment … until I realised the object of his sarc was deleted …

  145. TB Queensland permalink
    April 16, 2015 9:18 am

    And I’ve always thought Corbett was a self serving wanker … you can never tell, hey? They get it right occasionally … keep stabbing and your bound hit something important …

  146. Tom R permalink
    April 16, 2015 9:28 am

    “How can you possibly have a report that looks at the 40 years and doesn’t mention climate change”

    Probably because it was written for a bunch of anti-science climate deniers who have only ever supported any kind of science when they saw a way they could hit the poorer people, AGAIN.

    Research tells us that parents of the 7% of incompletely vaccinated children fall into two distinct groups.

    The first group, more than half of the 7%, face practical, economic, social or geographic impediments to full and timely vaccination. They are more likely to experience poverty or social exclusion.

    http://theconversation.com/forget-no-jab-no-pay-schemes-there-are-better-ways-to-boost-vaccination-37921

    But this mob just want to use the stick whenever possible (on the worst off anyway), even when the carrot would be more effective.

    Good to see the Dr Karl is apparently giving the money from his pr disaster (that’s what you get for trusting this mob Dr) to poorer schools. But will this mean the the grubmint will now take money away from those schools?

  147. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 16, 2015 9:29 am

    Ricky, 9:09 am

    Funny how the wealthy now want a DD when they won’t get their taxcuts and can’t impose their IPA agenda on the rest of us, who daily give thanks to those senators for blocking the worst budget ever.

    The people who really run this country want to sack the voters!
    Oh, how they blub when their aims are thwarted by the very system that they created to favour themselves.
    Last I heard that ‘no land tax party’ was a lib front, especially there to harvest votes.

  148. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 16, 2015 9:31 am

    But will this mean the the grubmint will now take money away from those schools?

    wow, does an ad/endorsement pay that much??

  149. Tom R permalink
    April 16, 2015 9:35 am

    Fucken hysterical Ricky

    The libs lose an election, and spend the entire term spitting the dummy and calling for a new one. They then win one, and spend the entire term spitting the dummy and calling for a new one.

    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

    It highlights nIls stoopid link to Mark Riley, who was quite successfully highlighting yabots rhetoric before the election, and the reality after.

    The libs appear to have forgotten what a democracy is. And they have clearly forgotten what negotiation is. Witness the recent RET shambles.Everyone must give in to the libs extreme and quite ridiculous position, without them giving any more ground (their first position was even more of a joke than their current one). That’s “negotiation” according to libs.

  150. Tom R permalink
    April 16, 2015 9:41 am

    does an ad/endorsement pay that much?

    30 pieces of silver usually suffice 😉

  151. April 16, 2015 9:45 am

    Dr Karl says he will donate any income he receives for fronting the Abbott government’s Intergenerational Report advertising campaign to government schools after admitting to “deep regret” over his role.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/deep-regret-dr-karl-kruszelnicki-to-hand-over-intergenerational-report-pay-20150415-1mm3i0.html

  152. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 16, 2015 9:48 am

    Dr Karl was a little stupid. What person would endorse something without having read the report? And if they would not give him the report to read he should have said, no thanks. I will not endorse something i have not read.

  153. TB Queensland permalink
    April 16, 2015 10:02 am

    The Intergeneration Report was rewritten by Jockey as the Generation War Report …

    … this theme of divide and conquer that the Liberal Party has engaged in since Howard became PM has always backfired …

    … you unite a country … a SOCIETY is far more powerful when everyone believes they have a fair share and a fair say … and the ECONOMY blossoms …

    It is simple (but effective) group dynamics … ideological groupthink is always a failure …

  154. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 16, 2015 10:04 am

    Antony Green “Is It Time for a Fundamental Review of the Senate’s Electoral System?”
    http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/~/~/link.aspx?_id=6EAB2F2521E8462CBBBF9EAE79C5229C&_z=z

    …To conduct a Senate election whose result will be determined by Byzantine deals between unknown backroom operators is bad enough. But to give voters only two options in voting, to accept the deals or be forced to number up to 110 preferences, is an abuse of the power granted the Parliament by the Constitution to determine the method of Senate voting.

    An election should be the process by which the will of the people is translated into representation in a chamber of parliament. In the case of the current Senate system, the will of the people can be interfered with by the strict control of preferences granted to political parties by the group ticket or ‘above-the-line’ voting system.

    How did we get to this impasse and what are the solutions?…

  155. April 16, 2015 10:05 am

    wow, does an ad/endorsement pay that much??

    Not really.. It is a common delusion that if you have your head in the media you are on the gravy train… Not so. After the tax, agency fees ect.. he may walk away with 15 to 25K and a whole lot of headache…
    Considering that is part of his yearly income, he makes about the same as a real estate agent… if you watch the video people are being way too hard on him he goes into detail.. Why are people saying he has sold out? I wasn’t aware he was the leader of any social movement, just someone trying to forge a living.

    Such is the vitriol of social media where gutless anonymous trolls like Nils say things which if uttered in the real world , would be bitch slapped owned like the spineless nobodies they are metaphorically sucking my cock 🙂

  156. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 16, 2015 10:09 am

    When you think of it, even the Dr Karl debacle has turned out to be a stuff-up by this government! They just can’t do anything with honesty, decency or integrity. They look like the bunch of shonks that they are.

  157. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 16, 2015 10:11 am

  158. Tom R permalink
    April 16, 2015 10:12 am

    even the Dr Karl debacle has turned out to be a stuff-up by this government!

    Is the good Dr a third columnist? Did he sneak in behind the enemas pay walls to both steal their money then highlight their lies?

    Conspiracy theories are always way much more fun than reality 😉

  159. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 16, 2015 10:14 am

  160. TB Queensland permalink
    April 16, 2015 10:16 am

    RP, Dr KK trades on his reputation … that is well and truly trashed now … he was used (oh, yeah) because he was well known, respected by most and seemed to cross over generations …

    I was never a fan (he’s a nerd as far as I’m concerned) but like many people I couldn’t believe what I saw and heard on the advert … and in particular who was delivering the nonsense – with childish demonstrations … literally …

    Dr KK made an awful judgement call … bit like the Pope coming clean and saying she doesn’t really believe there’s a god … 😈

    All he’s done in IMO is prove what I always thought – he’s a Dickhead™

    The only good thing to come out of all this is that Dr KK realised his error and spoke up!

    Pity about his future cred and career … but such is life … ughcch!

  161. TB Queensland permalink
    April 16, 2015 10:19 am

    … behind the enemas pay walls …

    Chuckle …

  162. TB Queensland permalink
    April 16, 2015 10:25 am

    Mr Turnbull is quoted as saying: “Honestly, it’s this simple: I get out of bed and I am me. If people find me persuasive or offensive that’s up to them, but I am comfortable in my own skin and I honestly never ask, ‘How can I change myself to be more appealing to people?’.”

    What a refreshing change from The Mad Abbott … o_O

    One arrogant, born to rule prick after another …

  163. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 16, 2015 10:26 am

  164. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 16, 2015 10:29 am

  165. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 16, 2015 10:32 am

  166. April 16, 2015 10:34 am

    “”Dr Karl ad seems a disaster all round. how much is this campaign costing the taxpayer?””

    It’s not just the Dr Karl ad, it’s also the higher education reforms ad, that thing was an embarrassment. How much did the govt spend on that piece of newspeak that was ultimately doomed to fail?

  167. TB Queensland permalink
    April 16, 2015 10:36 am

    Price added that his own pay package of $1.3 million (US$1 million) annually is “really high” and that he had decided to reduce his own pay to the same as other employees’ (about US$70,000) “until our profits go back up.” The announcement drew wild applause from employees at the Seattle-based firm that employs more than 100 people. The news comes amid an ongoing debate about wealth, wage, and income inequality in the United States.

    Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton has denounced the low tax rates for investments which allows some on Wall Street to avoid part of the tax burdens of middle-class working families.

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/ceo-dan-price-cuts-his-own-salary-to-boost-employee-pay/story-fn5tas5k-1227305797774

    That last paragraph is interesting … sounds very familiar …

    NEGATIVE GEARING – FACT! A Quick $5 Billion for Jockey!

    These people are running a BUSINESS! TAX ‘EM!

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/taxpayers-fork-out-as-investors-fill-pockets/story-fni0fiyv-1227304073156#itm=newscomau%7Chome%7Cnca-homepage-masthead-feature%7C3%7Cheading%7Chomepage%7Chomepage&itmt=1429055383610

    ALMOST 30,000 people have five or more homes negatively geared for tax offsets, costing the nation up to $5 billion a year in lost revenue.

    ATO figures show 15,264 landlords own at least six investment properties, which they claim run at a loss.

    Another 14,555 own five.

    Negative gearing sees owners able to claim as tax deductions all costs associated with that property, including mortgage interest — so they aim to ensure that the costs are greater than the rental income.

  168. Tom R permalink
    April 16, 2015 11:22 am

    it’s also the higher education reforms ad,

    That shits me too reb. They were happy to front up millions to advertise reforms that never got passed, but won’t spend money educating people about the benefits of vaccinations. Just hit ’em!

  169. TB Queensland permalink
    April 16, 2015 6:37 pm

    More than half of individual taxpayers with geared rental housing investments earned at least $100,000 a year, and 30% earned more than $500,000, the report said. House prices rose 92% between 2002-12 and flats increased by 40%. Rents for houses have increased 76% over the same period and the cost of renting a flat has gone up 92%.

    Between 2000 and 2013, lending for investment housing rose by 230% and lending for owner-occupied housing rose 165%.

    ACOSS

  170. April 17, 2015 7:27 am

    fcuk the retraction, karl can suck reb`s cock

    (and l hope it`s a monster and karl chokes on it)

  171. April 17, 2015 7:57 am

    limited news”””””””””””Price added that his own pay package of $1.3 million (US$1 million) annually is `really high` and that he had decided to reduce his own pay to the same as other employees` (about US$70,000) `until our profits go back up.””””””””’

    #surprised limited news reported this, it doesn`t fit with their `core` cheering, sponsors or owner

    #it is good to see `price` take these actions tho, and not just trash everybody else down the food-chain, when most of these boardroom fcukers cut their pay, they`re usually still getting million$, and shafting the plebs to pay for the boardroom mistakes #anal.joyce #qantas #teabags

  172. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 17, 2015 10:06 am

  173. Walrus permalink
    April 17, 2015 10:23 am

    “NEGATIVE GEARING – FACT! A Quick $5 Billion for Jockey!”

    How can that be let’s say a “Quick $5 Billion” unless you introduce it retrospectively ?

    I hope you are not proposing that are you ?

  174. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 17, 2015 10:28 am

  175. Tom R permalink
    April 17, 2015 10:34 am

    I hope you are not proposing that are you ?

    Didn’t you mean “I hope you are proposing that!”? 😉

  176. Tom R permalink
    April 17, 2015 10:35 am

    Nice isn’t it AO, they can’t find money for health or education, but they seem to locate it when indoctrination is on the menu.

  177. TB Queensland permalink
    April 17, 2015 11:59 am

    I hope you are not proposing that are you ?

    I am now!

  178. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 17, 2015 12:43 pm

  179. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 17, 2015 12:47 pm

    Nice to see sir GG giving a knighthood to sir angus, both recipients for services to the liberal party above and beyond the call of duty.

  180. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 17, 2015 12:50 pm

  181. Tom R permalink
    April 17, 2015 12:51 pm

    I am now!

    Oh oh, TB’s on the warpath. (with pretty good reason imo)

  182. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 17, 2015 12:58 pm

  183. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 17, 2015 1:02 pm

    By Pushing Mining The Abbott Goverment Trashes Environment And Economy:
    https://newmatilda.com/2015/04/17/pushing-mining-abbott-goverment-trashes-environment-and-economy

  184. TB Queensland permalink
    April 17, 2015 2:15 pm

    Joe Hockey anticipates a “mildly contractionary” budget, in the face of falling revenues. What does he mean?

    Who fkn cares … he has no idea himself …

    … just more widget speak …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’m off to Helensvale now – daughter and s/in-law taking us to Australian Outback this evening …

  185. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 17, 2015 7:08 pm

    Well here is Dr karl giving us the real reason he did the advertisement.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/dr-karl-kruszelnicki-my-role-in-government-video-does-not-mean-im-a-liberal-party-stooge-20150314-143dh5.html

    “He agreed to do it to support long-term policy making and because he gets paid “bugger all” by his employers, the ABC and the University of Sydney, he said
    .”

    And therefore we all know he votes for the ALP. Because human scum vote for the ALP

  186. April 18, 2015 8:07 am

    AFR””””””Asked why there were no other strategies included, Mr Birkler said by telephone hookup from the US at a briefing in Canberra on Thursday that `was the strategy that was under consideration for the future submarine at the time we did the study.`

    `That was it was to go offshore””””””””””

    #lt seems to me team-imbecile just want to destroy pleb-jobs, particularly if they are reasonably paid or/and unionised.

    #The imbecile-regime don`t seem to realize that trashing the canoe-industry will end `about` another 2000-jobs. Seems a highly stupid thing to do if you don`t like govt paying welfare.

  187. April 22, 2015 8:13 pm

    Sooooooo, not long until AbbottCorp compulsorily (I’m sure they’d like their political Indian Summer to go on & on without having to deliver another budget) deliver their next ideological evisceration budget.

    Yay!

    I wonder if they’ll try it on again? or if they’ll put more sauce on the same LaborLaborLabor shit sandwich? or if they’ll ride it home on the back of Simpson’s donkey?

  188. April 22, 2015 8:19 pm

    “Presumably, “doing what’s right” does include creating racial tension in society, fabricated threats to national security and other sensational distractions to draw attention away from their own economic vandalism and cronyism..”

    And strangle the internet & fuck everyman like Red (squirt, squirt) China. (except they will only impede the benign).

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