Rostrum: No Particular Reason Edition!

The damage Joe Hockey did in just 2 years

Yeah and when Wayne Swan became Treasurer in 2007 govt debt was ZERO and unemployment was 4.3%.

Kids in detention in 2007 = zero
Kids in detention in 2013 = 2,000
asylum seekers in detention in 2007 = 6
asylum seekers in detention in 2013 = thousands
money spent housing 6 asylum seekers in 2007 = not much
money spent housing 50,000 boat people that Rudd/Gillard let in = $11B and rising

The damage that Rudd/Gillard did in just 6 years.

You always miss the point … they were ousted … so was Hockey …

But Hockey did not do any damage. He did fail to clean up the mess that Swan left but things are more or less the same economically when Labor lost govt.

The budget deficit is similar and unemployment has gone up a little bit but nothing like the huge increases that happened under Swan.

And the Coalition did not drown 1,200 people.

And the Coalition did not drown 1,200 people.

Sorry i made a mistake there. Rudd/Gillard drowned 1,200 people that we can record but there were most probably 4 or 5 times that number.

The sad thing about that is that Howard after much trial and error put a stop to things like that.

But the ALP restarted the drownings.

Isn’t yabot still a sitting member of parliament? What is he doing moonlighting on tax payer dollars? He is also talking about “the second yabot grubmint” (or wtte)

I also see hockey has been asked not to “double dip” on his pension. This could be fun.

It’s great to see my personal troll returning after their suspension. Let’s all hope that the quality of the trolling shows some improvement and that lessons have been learned!

sob

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The TURC does a good job in hunting up union thuggery, union corruption and unions selling out their members.

Nice to say, harder to prove. An example would be nice, if you can.

But by turcmedia standards (and presumably yours), that would mean that the Unions sold out the workers at Port Kembla just recently then?

can bel seen as corruption.

Of course it “can” be seen, if you frame it as such without looking at what actually occurred. But, as Turc showed, it wasn’t. It was simply payments for services, such as training for non-union workers.

there was an additional, undisclosed exchange of consideration.

You mean, except for all the receipts on their public register?

AWU sold beneficial agreements for commercial gain, without specifically drawing the total commercial package to the members covered by the agreement.
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Please don’t interpret my (re)acceptance of you as my personal troll (ie butler/jester) be interpreted as a decline in my standards and expectations.
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Former ACTU president and cabinet minister Martin Ferguson has warned union influence over the Labor Party is “getting out of control” and the union movement’s control over the selection of ALP candidates is causing Labor MPs to resist changes to the industrial relation system.

Read more: http://www.afr.com/news/policy/industrial-relations/martin-ferguson-says-union-influence-getting-out-of-control-20151026-gkij30#ixzz3pi6spQJO
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If Ferguson is saying that, then it’s easier to believe that @AustralianLabor is heading the right way. #turc

ALL political parties have an ideology and controlling interest.

I’ll still stick with the one whose “faceless men” (and women) are rooted in the movement whose primary focus is the protection of Australian workers, as Turc has proven time and time again.

“Loss Making Vanity Pamphlet” lol

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/oct/27/free-speech-champion-biff-bootface-in-mystery-on-guano-island

“Loss Making Vanity Pamphlet”

Yes……………The Left could be expected to attempt to make fun of rape in order to attack a rival.

I have to say that I breathed a huge sigh of relief when malcolm emerged the winner,

That is all the evidence i need that Malcolm is not to be trusted.

“Still waiting for the Coalition to take real action on climate change. ”

LOL

Looks like the Indonesians are taking real notice every single year

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/10/21/asia-pacific/science-health-asia-pacific/carbon-indonesia-fires-exceeds-us-emissions-say-green-groups/#.Vi7bL26PYt8

“You mean as opposed to manipulatively attempting to use her to push their own political barrow.”

Link ? or just your usual Lefty opinion created from Zero foundation.

I still have yet to hear an explanation as to how the woman was able to write a note in perfect English yet she needs an interpreter ??????????????

“Link?”

“If my public support for strong border protection measures helped sway Nauru’s decision, so be it’ … – Chris Kenny

That is not a Link to “manipulation”.

It’s simply a Link to an account of a woman who cant speak English one minute but who magically has her conversation “interpreted” by Pamela Curr from the Asylum Seeker Resource Centre over a fucking telephone line. And as soon as she is legally challenged as to what was said she goes to water. Perhaps Albyn should have written another note.

Keep going I’m still her ROFLMAO

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. And as soon as she is legally challenged as to what was said she goes to water.

How has her story changed?

my neighbor (sic) is fully convinced

**f**kwits mates

Got a link to prove that?

Of course I do. Perhaps you missed it?

https://theguttertrash.com/2015/10/23/rostrum-no-particular-reason-edition/#comment-117773

But, just for you, I’ll put up even more of the interrogation , just for ‘context’ OK 😉

Q. Just to be clear, I’m not suggesting the MOU was in
any way illegal or anything like that.
A. Thank you.
Q. You say that the fee of $25,000 was for servicing
non-members, is that what you say?
A. That was my understanding, yes.
Q. I just want to put this to you for your comment.
There’s nothing about servicing non-members in the
agreement itself, do you see that?
A. What, in the actual agreement or the MOU?
Q. In the – no. In the side – we’re calling it a side
deal —
A. Yes.
Q. — on page 250.
A. Yes. Look, and I’ll say again, whilst I don’t recall
sending the letter but I’ll offer you this comment: the
service was to provide service for all Cleanevent employees
who are covered by the MOU and the enterprise agreements
and there was no discrimination against members,
non-members, casuals, permanents, and the AWU has,
particularly the Victorian Branch, put enormous resources
into servicing that workplace, along with delegates.
That’s basically what actually happened in reality, and
that’s basically it.

…………………..

Q. Could I explore the rationale for this arrangement a
bit more. You have given some evidence about it this
morning. Just picking up your last answer, when you
negotiated the terms of the MOU, you were acting on behalf
of AWU members, weren’t you?
A. Yes, and the employees and the enterprise.
Q. And the employees and the enterprise. All right. In
seeking to convince Cleanevent to pay $25,000 a year, you
were looking to get a benefit for the AWU; is that right?
A. Well, I wouldn’t say a benefit for the AWU because if
we look at what the AWU would have put in in resources, it
would far outweigh the $25,000 you might be referring to
because that would be maybe a portion of what resources we
were putting in and it’s fees for service, and it’s not
uncommon. The AWU rules allow for service fee arrangement
to actually be negotiated and agreed to between parties, so
the rules do allow for that.

Of course, following the link I put up earlier would have entailed reading the actual turc transcript, with all it’s associated accusations and agendas. But, in the end, they are all squashed with explanations and, as in this case, public information that any real investigation should/would have known, which I would guess is why so many Union representatives under the witch hunts gaze get very agitated when being seemingly “implicated” for what turn out to be fairly straight forward and open arrangements.

she does’nt speak English……………..but she can write a perfect note in English.

Perhaps wally hasn’t worked out that writing and speaking are, in fact, two different things.

And one last thing (maybe) . I see a report that union membership in the private sector is now 11%. Yet they still own the ALP

perfect note in English.

Yea, right……………..just who is doing the manipulating ? 😉

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So now you accept that the statements to the TURC are evidence?

Unchallenged. The interrogator did not disagree, unlike the statements about the “sham” invoices, where actual evidence was used to shoot the claims down.

I also take it that will be the end of your rancid claims about the eba and “side” deal then?

Yet they still own the ALP

I’d rather an organization that has 11% of the work force, plus one that benefits the entire workforce, holding a controlling interest in a party over one controlled by 1 American oligarch

so now she has appointed her own lawyer

You were the one claiming it was written in “perfect note in English” You fail to consider, even AFTER seeing it, that perhaps the English aint purrfect?

From the link AO. The story kenny ‘forgot’ to tell/manipulated.

OHCHR has been in direct contact with her. Abyan is in a very fragile mental and physical condition and is deeply traumatised by her experiences since the day of the alleged rape. She has refused to give information to the Nauru police about her attacker because she is understandably afraid of reprisals. She does not feel safe, given that her alleged attacker lives on Nauru, which is a very small island State with a population of around 10,000. OHCHR is concerned about reports that the Nauru police have failed to take action against alleged perpetrators of violence against women, particularly when the victims have been asylum seekers and refugees.

http://hrlc.org.au/ohchr_abyan/

“…………that perhaps the English aint purrfect?”

It’s good enough. In fact its better than my Italian green grocer. And he he full well understand moi.

So why does she complain about no interpreter

PM repels anti-mine push with coal hard facts

Well, according to the closest things to scientists over at the “Loss Making Vanity Pamphlet” anyway

The real scientists disagree with the murdoch brainstrust, again

The Prime Minister was completely and utterly wrong when he argued that “if Australia were to stop all of its coal exports it would not reduce global emissions one iota. In fact, arguably it would increase them because our coal, by and large, is cleaner than the coal in many other countries.”

http://www.crikey.com.au/2015/10/28/turnbull-fails-debate-economics-and-science-with-dumb-coal-defence

But then again, the LMVM hasn’t had a good run with science accuracy in the past. Why should they change now.

“I don’t understand what happened to the Malcolm Turnbull of 2009 who was willing to stake all on the principle of lowering carbon emissions, on having policies which were sensible on climate change.”

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/oct/27/shorten-coalition-rightwingers-forcing-australians-to-pledge-loyalty-to-coal

I do 😉

I get the feeling that any review into private health, under this grubmint, will be something along the lines of reducing public health.

“The reality is that the rising cost of health insurance is hitting all Australians through the swelling cost of the health insurance rebate, now nearing $6 billion a year, its failure to take pressure off public hospitals and the mounting burden on health fund members,” she said.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/private-health-insurance-sector-review-to-ask-public-about-value-for-money-20151028-gkkzil.html#ixzz3ptvMkhue

I find this difficult to admit, but I may have been wrong. From those numbers, it appears that the private health system is even more of a leaner on tax payers than accountants are.

And, it puts the millions ‘saved’ from killing the auto industry into perspective. And just how much is that going to cost us down the track (or even already).

And, speaking of “level playing fields” and “cayman islands”

A review by Fairfax Media and University of NSW accounting academic Jeff Knapp found that over the past eight years the group’s economic activity in Australia has doubled while its income tax contribution has fallen.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/vws-tax-payments-need-explanation-20150924-gjuhmh.html#ixzz3ptwVpu6w

Seems legit, which really is the problems. But, will our “cayman” PM be inclined to do anything about it? Going on my previous post ……………..

Nothing has changed. Still pushing their agenda.

Helen Rowell, the second most senior official at the Australian Prudential Regulation Authority, admitted at a Senate hearing that APRA officials had briefed the crossbenchers on a bill to change the governance of industry super funds.

The admission comes just days after Ms Rowell delivered a contentious speech that dismissed as a “fallacy” years of evidence, based on APRA’s own statistics, showing that not-for-profit industry super funds delivered better returns than retail funds run for profit by banks.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-28/apra-briefs-cross-bench-senators-on-superannuation-bill/6893816

But WHY are they pushing this agenda you might ask?

For the banks who have long coveted the giant pool of money in default superannuation funds, a recent speech from APRA was manna from heaven. But consumers have reason to be concerned, writes Stephen Long.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-28/long-why-banks-want-a-default-superannuation-free-for-all/6891668

Yep, so that the big boys can keep making the big bucks. (and then probably siphon the profits of to some tax haven like ….. caymans perhaps?)

Because employees have the right to choose their own fund and not have one imposed on them by a bunch of Union thugs

I actually agree with that, and was surprised that eba’s were still allowed to be drawn up that dictated that a particular fund be used.

But, we can be sure, that is not where it will end.

Personal responsibility is required.

Ideally, but, do we live in an ideal world? And, if that is the case, why is there so much talk of the ‘default’ fund?

But, it is all these things going on around the proposal that is revealing. Purely coincidental of course.

as you put more and more effort into making it so.

Do you mean for yourself, or for society in general?

Moi !

I get the feeling our new caymans pm would answer in a similar fashion.