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Statement regarding Eaten Fish

February 6, 2017

MEDIA RELEASE    5th February 2017 Failure to transfer Eaten Fish to Australia will lead to another death on Manus Island Eaten Fish has been on a hunger strike for 6 days now and weighs 48 kilos. …

Source: Statement regarding Eaten Fish

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  1. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 8, 2017 7:10 pm

    Turnbull…called Mr Shorten a “social-climbing” sycophant to Melbourne’s billionaires and pointed out the former union leader had once noted the value of corporate tax cuts.

    That seems to be a fact.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/politics/prime-minister-malcolm-turnbull-calls-opposition-leader-bill-shorten-a-parasite-in-question-time/news-story/7fb6d0ba2587371836aefbdf0a8b4553

  2. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2017 7:37 pm

    That seems to be a fact.

    You have a link … ’cause the one you supplied is just TurnAbbott attacking! Best form of defence usually … but ya gotta have enough ammo to make it work!

    The Cayman Billionaire just might have blown his!

    Seen the latest polls? How fkn predictable!

    Now back to Eaten Fish?

  3. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2017 8:10 pm

    Here ya go ToM!

    Last week the AEC revealed that unions spent $16 million attacking the Coalition during the 2016 Federal Election. In addition, unions gave Labor $10 million in cash donations. Plus, GetUp spent $10 million to campaign against the Government.

    https://www.liberal.org.au/?utm_source=Liberal+Party+E-news&utm_campaign=0d427bd07a-ABCC_30-11-2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_51af948dc8-0d427bd07a-57938261

    Last week the AEC revealed that unions spent $16 million attacking the Coalition during the 2016 Federal Election. In addition, unions gave Labor $10 million in donations. Plus, GetUp! spent $10 million more to campaign against the Government.

    That’s $36 million that Labor and GetUp! spent trying to make Bill Shorten Prime Minister.

    No wonder Bill Shorten has capitulated to the unions and abandoned his previous support for reducing the company tax rate. Bill Shorten has 36 million reasons to place opportunism ahead of our national interest.

    Today in Parliament, Malcolm Turnbull called out Bill Shorten.

    Watch here:

    Regards,

    Michaelia Cash
    Minister for Employment

    Michaelia, is out and about and the vid I watched shows a Coalition frontbench/backbench coached and ready!

    LOL!

    MALfunction can’t even make a “spontaneous attack” look – well – spontaneous!

    I can see MAL every night sitting in the toot asking Percy which way he should flow next!

    I now wait for Bill to up the ante … ’cause I know he will! He’s probably having a nice shiraz with PK right now! 😉

  4. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 8, 2017 8:20 pm

    I knew would impulsively leap to the defense of your man TB.

    You’ll instinctively have a crack at anyone who criticises rhe ALP

  5. February 8, 2017 8:26 pm

    Eaten Fish.

  6. Pussy Snatcher permalink
    February 8, 2017 11:07 pm

    Greenies want extreme vetting but advocate open borders

    What about Putin , Ling Xao Pin or whatever it is next time they visit. Do their abuses count ?

    Hashtag # snatchpussyPutin

    https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/feb/08/greens-move-to-bar-racist-xenophobic-trump-from-visiting-australia

  7. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2017 11:32 pm

    You’ll instinctively have a crack at anyone who criticises rhe ALP

    He’s not my man … and TurnAbbott certainly ain’t may man – weak as piss … worst leader I’ve ever seen …

    MAL is certainly your man … UNIONS BOO!

    Talk to me about instinct! 🙂 LOL!

  8. Tom R permalink
    February 9, 2017 6:27 am

    Now back to Eaten Fish?

    Eaten who?

    But malcayman said something, so we MUST believe 😉

    Actually, it seems like malcaymans playing the ‘politics of envy’, and he thinks people are envious of him. What a self obsessed wanker.

    And yes, nothing more will happen about Eaten Fish, or the rest left rotting over there, as harbour side bitches with the pussy grabber over their fate.

  9. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2017 11:05 am

    Dr Ditchfield says, ‘I urge you to be pro-active in transferring this critically ill young man to Australia. I have no doubt that failure to do this will lead to yet another death of an Asylum Seeker on Manus Island’.

    And if so shouldn’t Dopey Dutton be charged with at least one criminal offence, I can think of?

    No wonder the Qld police kicked him out … mean spirited prick.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Sycophant – a person who acts obsequiously towards someone important in order to gain advantage

    Social climbing – a person who is anxious to gain a higher social status

    Parasite – a blood sucking vermin that drains strenght from it’s host

    Describes MALfunction more than Bill Shorten …

    And Peta Credlin originally said:

    “”If it’s known that you were going to do a street walk in Penrith, the last thing you want to do, ‘Mr Harbour-side Mansion’, is look like you don’t know and you’re not welcome in Western Sydney.””

    And which politician has his “investments’ in the Cayman Islands?*

    And which politician donated $1.75 million to get re-elected?

    Only a “social climbing, sycophantic parasite” … that’s who!

    Hypocrite alright!

  10. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 9, 2017 11:25 am

    Shorten always brown nosed to influential people. He was also a duplicitous union official who routinely sought to advance his own interests even at the expense of other unions.

    …TB admires those traits in union hacks that become ALP politicians

  11. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 9, 2017 11:50 am

    I wonder why Leigh Sales was calling Centrelink? Does she receive welfare?

    http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/leigh-sales-takes-to-twitter-to-criticise-twohour-wait-for-help-from-centrelink/news-story/83a1c22c9bebe829e8752869fc14a1f8

  12. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2017 5:41 pm

    …TB admires those traits in union hacks that become ALP politicians

    ToM admires those traits in Liberal wannabes that spend $1.75 million to play Prime Meddler … and still fuck the lives of most Australians … while suckholing up to the COALitions main contributor …

    As if Liberal pollies are baptised and immediately cleansed of all lies, actions, sitting on their hands, harassing the weak, the poor, the young, the old, sick and the unemployed who struggle to survive!

    BTW, senior union reps are supposed to engage with MALfunction’s Elite … or is that just not done, y’know?

    ToM is sounding more “better than you lot” arrogant with each comment …

    ___________________________________

    I would guess Leigh Sales was doing her JOB, and investigating personally how long Centrelink clients actually have to wait …

  13. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 9, 2017 7:01 pm

    Every time anyone posts criticism of the ALP or it’s leadership we can rely on a rant about Turnbull from you TB.

  14. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2017 7:32 pm

    Every time anyone posts criticism of the ALP or it’s leadership we can rely on a rant about Turnbull from you TB.

    LOL!

    Most comments on the interwebby think TurnAbbott made a fool of himself … all except —— YOU!

    UNIONS! BOO!

    Should I just keep quiet and let you and MALfunction have your way with us? CHORTLE!

    Born ta rule!

    Build a bridge …

  15. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2017 7:43 pm

    These buffoons really need to find a real job and get their snouts out of the snot trough!

    There is no way you can write the sentence, “The treasurer of Australia, Scott Morrison, came to question time with a lump of coal on Thursday,” and have that sentence seem anything other than the ravings of a psychedelic trip, so let’s just say it and be done with it.

    Scott Morrison brought coal into the House of Representatives. A nice big hunk of black coal, kindly supplied by the Minerals Council of Australia.

    “This is coal,” the treasurer said triumphantly, brandishing the trophy as if he’d just stumbled across an exotic species previously thought to be extinct.

    “Don’t be afraid,” he said, soothingly, “don’t be scared.”

    No one was afraid, or scared. People were just confused. What was this fresh idiocy?

    Lurching from one ideological failure to another …!

    The coal was produced as a totem of how the government in Canberra was going to keep the lights on, and keep power prices low, and stop the relentless march of socialism, or prevent random thought crimes against base-load power stations.

    Whatever the question was in the parliament on Thursday, the answer was: “South Australia has just had a blackout and, if Bill Shorten becomes the prime minister, all the lights will go off around the country.”

    Australia would become like South Australia, “struggling all too often in the dark” as the prime minister said at one point – because Labor was drunk on renewable energy, or suffering from coal-o-phobia, the fear of black rocks.

    YEAH! Renewable energy is so bad! Coal will save the 21st Century! What fkn nonsense!

    The official line from the government on energy policy is when it comes to technologies, it should be “all of the above” – which would be laudable, terrific even, if we actually had any coherent policy mechanism to deliver all of the above.

    Cabinet’s energy subcommittee met in Canberra for the first time on Thursday afternoon. They’ve got a job of work to do.

    Perhaps they could do us all a favour.

    Perhaps they could just shut up and get on with it.

    Decisions made for profit! Not for our society!

    Elysium anyone?

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/feb/09/scott-morrison-brings-coal-to-question-time-what-fresh-idiocy-is-this

  16. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 9, 2017 8:15 pm

    I don’t think Elysium is a documentary.

    It’s a science fiction movie intended to made lots of money for Hollywood robber barons

    But if you choose to form your political opinions on the basis of Hollywood movies starring a crazed scientologist, and produced by billionaires, well that’s a fine with me TB.

  17. February 9, 2017 9:06 pm

    “I don’t think Elysium is a documentary.”

    lol… 🙂

  18. Tom R permalink
    February 9, 2017 9:42 pm

    Every time anyone posts criticism of the ALP or it’s leadership we can rely on a rant about Turnbull from you TB.

    Arguable, but why mention that now when all he did was reply to a vacuous personal attack with no substance.

    Meanwhile, truth will out

    However, South Australia energy minister Tom Koutsantonis blamed the AEMO – which is a federal body – for not ensuring there was enough generation available, and wondered why it allowed Engie’s 250MW gas unit at Pelican Point to sit idle, while consumers and business suffered forced blackouts.

    Koutsantonis was particularly outraged given there was three day’s notice of the potential shortfall. Claiming not enough time to fire up the generator simply didn’t cut it. He and premier Jay Weatheril have threatened to take matters into their own hands, even talking of “nationalising” the industry.

    http://reneweconomy.com.au/coal-reliant-nsw-faces-rolling-blackouts-as-accusations-fly-in-south-australia-40115/

  19. February 9, 2017 9:45 pm

    BTW, quick shout out to ToSY who’s been lurking..

    “If you’re gonna lurk, you may as well participate, no?”

    Actually that’s a rhetorical question… 😉

  20. Tom R permalink
    February 9, 2017 9:48 pm

    I hope they get a full explanation of this. What the power companies/national regulator/grubmint have done to SA is reprehensible.

    Their just lucky nobody has died from heat exhaustion due to this.

    Labor to Frydenberg re South Australian blackouts: I refer to the statement recently released today by the operator of the Pelican Point power station which reads, “The second unit at Pelican Point is not able to provide a market response under the current rules of the NEM unless directed by the market operator”. Why did the federal regulator that reports to this minister force blackouts on South Australian households and businesses instead of directing Pelican Point to switch on the second unit?

    Frydenberg says the energy market operator disputes Labor’s version of events.

    “Pelican Point could have come on with the high demand and the high prices. Now, the issue in South Australia was not Pelican Point. The issue in South Australia was the low supply from wind power.”

    Labor tries to table the statement from Pelican Point power station. The government refuses to allow it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2017/feb/09/bill-shorten-malcolm-turnbull-union-liberal-labor-politics-live?page=with:block-589be4fde4b0e78a1131d73d#block-589be4fde4b0e78a1131d73d

    And I hope they hold the ministers to their words once the full story is known (if ever)

    To think that there was (again) turbines sitting idle, whilst the power goes out … again.

    Obviously, it is the fault of the fossil fuel generators. The solution is more renewables [sarc]

  21. Tom R permalink
    February 9, 2017 9:55 pm

    “If you’re gonna lurk, you may as well participate, no?”

    Maybe he’s just looking for in-spuration

    May as well oblige. Keep up the good work tosy 😉

  22. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2017 10:34 pm

    I don’t think Elysium is a documentary.

    Fuck me! It not true!

    Arguable, but why mention that now when all he did was reply to a vacuous personal attack with no substance.

    I’m getting used to them, TR … but the perpetrators seem to be dwindling? Wot have you done?

    You know when we “lurk” … Big Gay Brother?

    Hope you’ve all been watching Ray Donovan (its a TV series ToM – fiction – almost 🙂 ) !!!

  23. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2017 6:46 am

    Wot have you done?

    I’ll never tell.

    Hope you’ve all been watching Ray Donovan

    I saw the first season, was pretty engrossed. But haven’t got around to anything else. I think ‘labeling’ things as ‘documentary’ or ‘sci-fi’ is fairly dangerous. Can’t WE decide 😉 I mean, we have to when it comes to ‘news’ (some would say ”propoganda’)

    eg

    What’s the solution?

    South Australia needs more sources of power that can be dispatched on demand.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-09/sa-power-what-is-load-shedding-and-why-is-it-happening/8254508

    Except that we had them, you numptees. It’s almost like ulman was dictating. Interestingthat there is no mention of the gas turbine sitting idle. And ignorance is no excuse, this was printed hours after Weatherill mentioned it.

    And it seems like fossil fuel generation is quite ‘intemittent’

    Three generators down with technical issues

    But Mr Koutsantonis also revealed that three generators were out of action due to technical issues.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-09/aemo-orders-back-up-power-station-at-pelican-point-on/8256594

    I’ve changed jobs, and don’t don’t have much time for posting now, that’s my excuse. A short burst in the morning or evening is what I’m restricted to. I’m hoping that will change once I settle in, but it’s a steep learning curve I’m on, and am getting kinda lost in the technologies. It quite interesting and fun actually. It’s been a long time I’ve said that about work.

    This could apply to yomm too. Interesting to note the msm’s sudden disinterest in ‘context’ this time around. I guess ‘context’ is so 2012.

  24. Shane in QLD permalink
    February 10, 2017 6:47 am

    ToM

    Union hacks might have given the ALP $36,000,000 but the LNP is giving business $50,000,000,000. So who do you think has benefitted the most from a government?

  25. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 10, 2017 11:50 am

    Union hacks get to nominate the people who directlly determine the policies of the ALP.

    Union hacks get control, business get substancial influence.

    There’s a difference.

  26. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 10, 2017 1:47 pm

    Union hacks get control, business get substancial influence.
    There’s a difference
    .

    I disagree

    Business also get control. They do it in an underhand manner too, none of it is open knowledge for the public to check out. Look at the IPA with their secret business donors who have basically taken over the LNP. The IPA and their business reps, would we call them business hacks? they now have their people in parliament [freedom boy and the 12 yo james paterson] so not only does the organisation directly control the Libs through huge secret donations and donors [the likes of murdoch & rinehart] they also have their people directly elected.

    How is that different from what union hacks do in a more open and honest, transparent manner?

  27. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 10, 2017 2:56 pm

    Just out of interest, does that figure regarding union donations include union affiliation fees or just donations?

    I think it is only donations, and therefore there are $$$$$$$$$$$ millions more that unions provide to gain their control of the ALP.

  28. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 10, 2017 3:01 pm

    Ao I think there is a difference between having the right determine the representatives that decide ALP policy (ie that’s the control unions have)…and the ability to influence decisions through donations and lobbying.

    Few European progressive parties have that structure, and they generally manage to have a well balanced policy platform.

    The ALP is stuck in the British colonial era, observing the political and class structure of Mother England.

  29. TB Queensland permalink
    February 10, 2017 4:42 pm

    FFS!

  30. Pussy Snatcher permalink
    February 10, 2017 5:35 pm

    “How is that different from what union hacks do in a more open and honest, transparent manner?”

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bill-shorten-failed-to-disclose-40000-donation-from-labour-hire-company-unibilt-to-his-2007-election-campaign-20150707-gi7elj.html

  31. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 11, 2017 11:32 am

  32. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 11, 2017 11:39 am

  33. TB Queensland permalink
    February 11, 2017 12:10 pm

    Happy Swelterday!

    COALition hot headed BS severely doused!

    Extreme price spikes in Queensland’s fossil fuel-dominated electricity market this year have far eclipsed those seen in South Australia last July, which sparked calls of a national inquiry into renewable energy and led the federal Coalition to call for a halt to state-based renewable energy targets.

    Since the start of 2017, Queensland’s wholesale spot price for electricity has spiked above $13,000 per megawatt hour a total of 71 times, according to analysis by Dylan McConnell from the Climate & Energy College at the University of Melbourne.

    Adding up the effects of the price spikes, McConnell found they cost wholesale purchasers (such as retailers and some large businesses) a total of just over $1bn.

    By comparison, in July 2016, South Australia’s wholesale price spiked above $13,000 per megawatt hour 32 times.

    The vast majority of Queensland’s energy is supplied by coal and gas. In 2015, Queensland had just 4% of its supply coming from renewables, compared to South Australia which had 41%.

    “Clearly these figures show that other dynamics like market concentration and gas prices are contributing to these price spikes and volatility, not the penetration of renewable energy,” McConnell said.

    While the events in Queensland have not raised an eyebrow, the smaller volatility in South Australia last year hit the front page of newspapers around the country, with politicians and rightwing commentators blaming the state’s reliance on renewable energy, calling for a halt to renewable energy expansion.

    The push against renewables was supported by the coal lobby too, with the Minerals Council of Australia saying the reliance on renewables “exposed families and businesses to higher prices, supply instability and greater reliance on imported power”.

    At the time, Labor’s spokesman for climate change and energy, Mark Butler, described the discussion around the electricity prices in South Australia as “extraordinary exploitation” and “a cocktail of exaggeration, hyperbole and downright misinformation”.

    “This is a push … by interests that have nothing more or less than an ideological bent against renewable energy,” Butler said. “It’s a push that should not be underestimated and it’s a push that must be overtly challenged.”

    The attempt to blame renewables for South Australia’s price volatility was quickly refuted by analysis showing the price spikes were caused by gas generators in the state that had extreme market power, and were able to game the system, gathering a $30.3m windfall as a result.

    McConnell said these new figures support that analysis.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/feb/11/queenslands-electricity-price-spikes-far-worse-than-south-australia-analysis-shows

    Our air conditioner is chuffing along nicely powered by solar! And its FREE! 🙂

  34. Tom R permalink
    February 11, 2017 1:22 pm

    Yes, the fossil fuel argument is blown after events in NSW yesterday (not that this is unprecedented, power shedding has happened before, it will happen again.)

    Yet NSW had to force business to shed power. Interesting how the media is running (didn’t have “there was no significant loss of service” when SA had power turned off, even though they forced Tomago aluminium smelter to turn off its pots for hours on Friday (isn’t that the same as a “rolling blackout”?)

    It really does look like the grubmint, AEMO, and ‘many’ media outlets are running the ‘get renewables’ line.

    Led by the simpering ulman.

  35. Tom R permalink
    February 11, 2017 1:24 pm

    and led the federal Coalition to call for a halt to state-based renewable energy targets.

    Will this lead to the coalition calling for a halt to coal?

  36. Tom R permalink
    February 11, 2017 1:30 pm

    Can I say, it’s great to see the pussy snatchers are as spooked by Shorten as harourside is. 🙂

  37. Tom R permalink
    February 11, 2017 3:42 pm

  38. February 12, 2017 10:06 am

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  39. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 12, 2017 6:37 pm

    Great… because Bill is such an honorable man of the people!

  40. TB Queensland permalink
    February 12, 2017 6:53 pm

    It’s getting serious now, ToM …

    Someone on the page below may be able to help you deal with your persecution and anxiety issues.

    https://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=counselling+services+melbourne

    Please let us know how you get on … and … good luck.

    I have no idea how you must feel … you being one of the Elites … (you know paying more tax than – 99% of Australians – isn’t it?)

  41. Tom R permalink
    February 12, 2017 9:38 pm

    because Bill is such an honorable man of the people!

    Decisions, decisions.

    Pick someone who has dedicated their efforts to protecting workers and their families, or someone who has dedicated their efforts to protecting their portfolio.

    It’s a toughie 😉

  42. February 12, 2017 10:00 pm

    “It’s a toughie 😉”

    Isn’t it just. It’s got me stumped.

  43. Tom R permalink
    February 12, 2017 10:05 pm

    It had me stumped last election. harbousides been a fully fledged lib from day dot. I can’t believe so many fell for his leather jacket scam. Even after what he did to the NBN

  44. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 13, 2017 3:10 am

  45. Tom R permalink
    February 13, 2017 6:50 am

    Well, looking at that picture of a ‘nat’ ao, is picking onenation any worst?

  46. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 13, 2017 8:36 am

    Pick someone who has …. spent their adult life doing dodgy deals and undermining other unions to advance their political ambitions or someone who took on the Thatcher Government over transparency in intelligence, was a partner with in Wran, Whitlam, Turnbull, who voluntarily put their own time and money into taking on Howard over the Republic…

  47. February 13, 2017 9:00 am

    Just in case anyone’s wondering what happened to ToSY…

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  48. TB Queensland permalink
    February 13, 2017 9:49 am

    was a partner with in Wran, Whitlam, Turnbull, who voluntarily put their own time and money into taking on Howard over the Republic…

    WTF does that sentence mean?

    We lost the Republic Referendum because of TurnAbbott! The man’s a twisted, tossed and turned underachiever … who is now being puppeteered into selling coals to non-believers … Bernard Keene’s four fotos above says it all!

    Australia has become a laughing stock around the world since The Mad Monk started his Captain’s Picks and handed out knighthoods to princes … but hey, “shit happens” – even when Diggers die … and their reward is reduced pay and conditions … now we’ve got TurnAbbott a boofhead that invests in the Cayman Islands, can’t collect tax from corporate and millionaire defaulters, has a bunch of right wing, born to rule, thieves telling him what to do, pillaging pensioners, the poor, the sick, the weak, the unemployed, destroying the environment and Australia’s reputation for a quick coal quid …

    GMAFB! with your union shit … I’ve lived in a world where workers had to fight for leave pay and annual leave .. sick pay … to get penalty rates for shitty jobs … fair workers compensation (another worker right eroded by Tories) … safer and healthier working conditions …H&S regulations and legislation … its the ignorance of modern workers who haven’t walked the talk that will create the problems of the past all over again … it has always been a battle between the workers rights and remuneration and the employers’ champions the Liberal Tories in Australia …

    Employers, given a free rein, would have workers toiling for a pittance and be worked to death! Just look at the USA for that model.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    What’s a ToSY?

  49. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 13, 2017 11:06 am

    …I’ve lived in a world where workers had to fight for leave pay and annual leave .. sick pay … to get penalty rates for shitty jobs … fair workers compensation (another worker right eroded by Tories) … safer and healthier working conditions …H&S regulations and legislation … its the ignorance of modern workers who haven’t walked the talk that will create the problems of the past all over again …

    I agree with you to a point TB. The fight for wages and conditions hasn’t gone away, I actually think that it is even harder in this globalised, privatised, world, with governments and corporations working in league to advance the neoliberal agenda. You can’t completely blame modern workers, they are just so glad to have a job, any job, they won’t risk losing it. And when they’ve grown up on a diet of anti union rhetoric from both government and employers, it’s hard to tell fact from fiction. The labor party has tried to be such a small target for so long re unions that they have failed to tell the public that unions are all that stand between them and complete employer control.

    The issue that I have is that modern Labor and the unions have embraced capitalism and the greedy neoliberal ideology for themselves and are now part of the problem, not the solution.

  50. February 13, 2017 11:53 am

    …I’ve lived in a world where workers had to fight for leave pay and annual leave .. sick pay … to get penalty rates for shitty jobs … fair workers compensation (another worker right eroded by Tories) … safer and healthier working conditions …H&S regulations and legislation … its the ignorance of modern workers who haven’t walked the talk that will create the problems of the past all over again …

    HEAR HEAR!

  51. TB Queensland permalink
    February 13, 2017 11:57 am

    Fair comments and I agree, KL, I really shouldn’t say “modern” … I had a 65 yo in the back of my car complaining that unions were useless because she had lost her Qld government job … (that’s where part of my rant came from too) …

    Thanks, sreb!

  52. February 13, 2017 12:01 pm

    “”The fight for wages and conditions hasn’t gone away, I actually think that it is even harder in this globalised, privatised, world, with governments and corporations working in league to advance the neoliberal agenda.””

    Exactly right!

    I was having a “discussion” with my neighbour the other day, who was of the view that when he was a school leaver, young people would just go out and get a job, rather than “sit on the dole like they do today.”

    It’s a simplistic view that many people hold dear today.

    However when you scratch a little deeper that whole argument falls apart.

    What sort of jobs may they might be? I asked, oh you know – the likes of a petrol station attendant, working as a check out operator in a supermarket, or a job at McDonalds.

    Well two out of three of those jobs no longer exists, and the third is on the way out with self serve computers now replacing counter staff at McDonalds.

    Heck, there’s even a shop that’s opened in Melbourne that doesn’t have any staff – just fkn vending machines, and the owner’s making a motser.

    And there’s going to be a fewer jobs in the future (especially for the low skilled) as human workers are increasingly being made obsolete by technology.

    Of course, it’s the simpering harbourside elites who begrudge the right of anyone else to you know, actually “try to get ahead” in the world, instead slamming them as “social climbers” as we witnessed the other day with Talcum.

    They’re no longer bothering to even try to pretend that it’s not class warfare.

  53. February 13, 2017 12:20 pm

    So Turnbull and Joyce basically lied to the public…

    “AEMO had told federal public servants and political advisers that renewable energy was not to blame for the blackout. But instead of informing the people of South Australia of this fact, both the Energy Minister and Prime Minister chose to push a false narrative about wind power,” he said.

    “Here we see frank and fearless departmental advice being ignored when it didn’t suit a political agenda.”

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/pm-and-ministers-were-told-wind-not-to-blame-for-sa-blackout-20170212-guaxf0

  54. TB Queensland permalink
    February 13, 2017 12:21 pm

    They’re no longer bothering to even try to pretend that it’s not class warfare.

    Don’t mention CLASS WARFARE!

  55. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 13, 2017 12:36 pm

    Why isn’t this another Tampa?

  56. February 13, 2017 12:48 pm

    Children overboard!

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  57. TB Queensland permalink
    February 13, 2017 12:56 pm

    And there’s going to be a fewer jobs in the future (especially for the low skilled) as human workers are increasingly being made obsolete by technology.

    And that’s why the smarter countries are researching a “living income” and the changes coming to their societies … not here of course still bogged down with 1950’s TORY IDEOLOGY!

    Coal is good!

  58. TB Queensland permalink
    February 13, 2017 12:57 pm

    oh oh our new water has arrived goat fit it up and do the plumbing! Gives an extra 3300 litres!

    Catch ya later

  59. TB Queensland permalink
    February 13, 2017 12:58 pm

    water tank!

  60. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 13, 2017 1:01 pm

    two out of three of those jobs no longer exists

    Heavens!! Where on earth is that? When I got petrol the other day I’m quite certain I handed my credit card to a human!

    I even went to the supermarket where there were a dozen or more young humans doing things with scanners and cash registers as well as putting stuff on shelves! One even helped on old person carry their bags out of the store!

    While I don’t frequent McDonalds very often, I stopped to get a take away coffee on my way to the coast a week or 2 ago. I’m certain a human took my order, another made the coffee and handed it to me in exchange for some money!

    I must live in the labour intensive part of Melbourne

  61. February 13, 2017 1:34 pm

    “”When I got petrol the other day I’m quite certain I handed my credit card to a human!””

    Yes, at the cash register.

    Once upon a time they had people outside at the pump who would actually fill your car for you while you sat inside the car. They’d then bring you your change.

    “”I even went to the supermarket where there were a dozen or more young humans doing things with scanners and cash registers.”

    If you’d said 2 or 3 I might’ve believed you. Are you saying that there are more people employed at check out counters now than there were 5 years ago?

  62. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 13, 2017 1:35 pm

    …Of course, it’s the simpering harbourside elites who begrudge the right of anyone else to you know, actually “try to get ahead” in the world, instead slamming them as “social climbers” as we witnessed the other day with Talcum.
    They’re no longer bothering to even try to pretend that it’s not class warfare…

    It’s always been a class war and the capitalists have won.

    For some reason, there is a deathly fear on the part of labor and the unions to call it class warfare, the wealthy are quick to do so, they scream ‘class war’ every time they are criticised or something might get taken off them eg negative gearing, tax concessions.
    There is this big pretence of egalitarianism in this country, this ‘equality’ that supposedly exists between the poor and the rich in australia which is total BS designed for a nostalgic view of a bygone era of colonial australia. .
    The 1980’s brought globalisation and our wealthy elites really looked after themselves and their mates, we had the hawke/keating accord and then the new IR regime which has been weakened and whittled away for decades. These days, the capitalists don’t want any rules for themselves but the unions have to work under strict legislated conditions and workers are treated as lazy bludgers who need a kicking.

    Time for the revolution.

  63. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 13, 2017 1:39 pm

    If you’d said 2 or 3 I might’ve believed you.

    Me too

    A dozen or more? I doubt it

  64. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 13, 2017 1:46 pm

    I’m saying there are a couple of people working in the petrol stations I go to and if I wander around a supermarket there are people stacking shelves and operating cash registers.

    The jobs exist, as distinct from “no longer existing”

  65. February 13, 2017 2:04 pm

    “”The jobs exist, as distinct from “no longer existing”””

    So name one petrol station where you can pull up in your car, sit in the driver’s seat, while an attendant walks up, asks you much you want, fills up your car, collects your money and brings back your change?

  66. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 13, 2017 2:24 pm

    The jobs exist, as distinct from “no longer existing”

    A job might exist, but not as it used to, the employee is just a money collector at the petrol station, there’s no service and there is only one of them

    Same for the operating of cash registers, you will usually find one cash register lane open and everyone expected to queue through the self serve registers, there’s 10 of those all beeping and alarming and only one person supervising to see that you don’t nick something. Shelf stacking? If you actually ask them to do something for you there’s pandemonium, they have to go and find a manager from deep in the bowels of the shop!

  67. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 13, 2017 2:30 pm

    Well if you think inhaling petrol fumes all day while dodging distracted drivers entering and leaving is a great job for youngster, I’ll have to beg to differ.

  68. Shane in QLD permalink
    February 13, 2017 2:37 pm

    I have never seen more than 1 person in a Caltex Woolworths service station. The only ones where I have seen 2 is when they are a super sized station and have a diner attached in major country areas. I remember when Ampol existed and dad used to pull up and 2 people would be serving him alone. I on the fuel and the other checking oil and cleaning windscreen along with 2 attending other cars at other pumps.

  69. shaneinqld permalink
    February 13, 2017 2:40 pm

    reb

    I put that link up at 6.27am 🙂

  70. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 13, 2017 3:10 pm

    Senator Bernie Sanders on Sunday called President Donald Trump a “pathological liar,” while Senator Al Franken reiterated that “a few” Republican senators are concerned about the President’s mental health.

    Bernie Sanders is right, but he’s understating the facts. Trump isn’t simply a pathological liar, he’s an overly sensitive bully who can’t tell the difference between diplomatic relations and personal ones.

    He has no sense of ethics. Deluded, dangerous, a complete disaster

    http://www.theage.com.au/world/bernie-sanders-calls-donald-trump-a-pathological-liar-20170212-gub8vg.html

  71. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 13, 2017 4:54 pm

    http://www.news.com.au/national/extreme-vetting-plan-for-australian-citizenship/news-story/0dd82ec39933098bca7603ed271651e1

    I’d prefer to have a higher standard for citizenship application

  72. shaneinqld permalink
    February 13, 2017 5:40 pm

    Tom

    I agree with both of your last 2 posts.

  73. Tom R permalink
    February 13, 2017 7:09 pm

    For some reason, there is a deathly fear on the part of labor and the unions to call it class warfare

    Would it be because when Labor say it, it is reported by a group who sit well on one of the class divide, and have shown time and again that when it comes to ‘class warfare’, they are definitely on the side of the ‘elites’ (the real elites, as in, those with the inherited moneys)

    Just witness harboursides recent rant, which was done in response to Labors attempt to protect the lower class, by one who is currently grifting the upper class $50billion.

    And the media thought it was ‘gutsy’ 😯

  74. TB Queensland permalink
    February 13, 2017 7:11 pm

    Well if you think inhaling petrol fumes all day while dodging distracted drivers entering and leaving is a great job for youngster, I’ll have to beg to differ.

    Have you ever worked at any physically manual job in your life, ToM?

    ‘Cause your comments constantly tell me you’ve had a Joe Hockey Lifetime Experience …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    On a “news” note … its pissing down here! The storm was forecast and time was limited (we had to replace a 2.4m fence panel and position the tank and set up taps and filters) so I made the decision to just plumb the inflow pipes – and hope for the best – whoo hoo!

    Both tanks are really filling! As the lightning flashes and the thunder roars!

  75. TB Queensland permalink
    February 13, 2017 7:13 pm

    The new tank doesn’t have the overflow connected! That was the risky decision … and the rain just seemed to soften!

  76. February 13, 2017 10:58 pm

    Good link Tom, that sums up everything that’s wrong with the face of retail today.

  77. TB Queensland permalink
    February 13, 2017 11:31 pm

    My business motto has never changed (from my days in “motor trade” – as in “She’s Leaving Home”)

    “Provide the service and the dollars will folla”

  78. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 16, 2017 1:19 am

  79. February 16, 2017 7:22 pm

    Coles,,,,has even called in the NSW Police, who in October said they will charge people for theft over “discount” amounts as small as $2,,,,

    (then jonestown-plod should be real busy with 7-11, dominos,)

    That`s a cracker team-cheerer. For those that want a change from traditional fake-news, l am strongly recommending `vice-news` on sbs2, which has already covered this topic in britannia, where junkies know exactly what time to hit which supermarket, then head to the pensioners in the estates to off-load half price meat and household goods.

    Out here, l reckon aldi has been making a killing from the coles-woollie monster `self-checkoutz`, they now seem to be full of older folk much more than they used to be. Probably not a great idea by the monsters to make older folk that already struggle with the shopping and atm/pin, to then make them do the scanner too.

    But,,,,Coles might want to take a lesson from public transport in Melbourne. We didn’t have much of a problem with fare evasion when conductors sold tickets on trams. Once scratch tickets and then Myki came in and conductors went out (nothing more than a cost-cutting and union-busting exercise by transport managers),

    fare evasion took off.

    PTV now deploys goon squads of inspectors to heavy fare evaders, creating an adversarial relationship with customers: Very Bad Business Practice,,,,

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