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No wonder there is a media circus. The ALP are hell bent on supplying the clowns!
Much of the cabinet gone, ALP in disarray, a leader without a semblance of ethics, but “it’s all a media beat up!!”
In other nooze this week …
Nuclear physicist Charles Hall (in Australia to sell his new book) says aliens are walking amongst us and Astrophysicist Piers Corbyn believes a mini ice age has already begun.
…in even more interesting news-
*NBN a debacle
*Media laws a debacle
The ALP barrackers are quiet.
Very few are wallowing in Julia’s glorious victory –
• Beat up her own party
• Hated by much of the caucus, but prevailed over those enemies
• Lost much of her ministry
• Most experienced and articulate ministers – gone
Gillard and the ALP has so much to celebrate!
The barrackers don’t know what to believe anymore.
Up until Thursday, Kevin Rudd was their sworn enemy, but since he didn’t run against Gillard in the spill, he’s now their new best friend…
Because now Gillard is completely unopposed and will lead the party to complete annihilation in six months time…!
There’s so much to celebrate at the cafe and AIMN…… ! 😯
Apparently Kate Ellis is one of the highly talented people who will be promoted given the departure of so many talentless ministers.
Here’s a photo of Kate demonstrating her ministerial competence – http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2010/04/04/1225849/624103-kate-ellis-in-grazia-magazine.jpg
VOTE 1, NIGHTSOIL !!!
I thought Simon went to the Rudd camp and exhibited his numbers… and they agreed it could be done. Perhaps it was a communication breakdown, or someone’s telling porkies.
‘Meanwhile, bruised Rudd loyalists claimed Mr Crean had failed to honour a deal to swing 10 MPs behind Mr Rudd in return for becoming deputy prime minister if Ms Gillard was toppled.
‘Mr Crean denied there was any such deal and described as ”bullshit” the claim that the Rudd camp had offered him the deputy prime ministership.’
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/rudd-was-behind-spill-move–crean-20130322-2glci.html#ixzz2OKxzeG8e
The barrackers don’t know what to believe anymore.
Quite frankly, neither do I, sreb … but for about eighteen months!
Here’s a photo of Kate demonstrating her ministerial competence –
I’d say that just about covers the highly talented and competent Ms Ellis alright , ToM …
Excess night soil production is a huge problem in Moe. We don’t have nearly enough demand to soak up the oversupply.
Kate is now a married woman, have some respect.
So Simple Simon took his list of ten possible defectors and told Kev’s minders he should give them a call.
Nobody called… pick up the phone kev, this is not a fait accompli, but no…. he expected acclimation.
Top marks to joolya for calling a snap meeting. She can be quite brilliant in close encounters, especially party room brawls.
Simon of course is in denial about the ten faceless MPs and somebody is bound to draw up a list.
Shouldn’t Garrett resign? (oh, please) He was one of Rudd’s protégés from memory … Kevin Kustard being a rock fan an’ all … 🙄
Garrett could resign, but he might as well hang around for the Budget Day no confidence motion….the independents are being primed.
Talcum looks good.
“We are not asking to be made the government. We are not asking the independents to a baton change. We’re just saying let the people decide,” Mr Turnbull told Seven.
The girlfriend and I are finding it impossible to make ends meet with five kids so we’ve just managed to get her pregnant again. We need the extra money from the government. (No they’re not all mine, the oldest four have a different father each. I sired the youngest one.)
Jayden?
No, we’ve already got a Jayden and a Jayke. We’re going to call this one Hunter Blade, that way it won’t matter if it’s a boy or girl it’ll still be a grouse name.
Braydyn for a girl (although I think Schapple may become popular).
Graydyn for another boy!
Meanwhile over at AIMN, Miglo speculates about the identity of someone who is difficult to argue with. That’s what he prefers to do, rather than address any points they make.
…and John Lord must be about due for another pornography analogy. Does this reflect an obsession?
Methinks, someone playes with oneself …
Those names are awesome too. Our other three are Monaro-Brock, Nikohl and Shantaeya.
Dirk has nothing to do with me TB, just in case that’s what you’re suggesting.
When anyone turns up with an intelligent point to make, it’s natural to imagine it might be me.
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Analysse?
The missus likes Mhadeziyn. Here she is with me, Jayke and Nikohl.
Here’s the house we rent and some of our cars.
Life in the Latrobe Valley seems prosperous, probably because of the coal and stuff, and keep up your effort to populate or we’ll all perish
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Dirk says he’s about to quit the scene … TB do me a favour and point him in this direction.
Dirk has nothing to do with me TB, just in case that’s what you’re suggesting.
LOL! Me, me, me, me … I know who Dirk is … he’s fun …
Still my remark about playeing with oneself … may have triggered your response … 🙄 Chuckle …
This is Monaro-Brock doing some artistic photography shit. He must have learnt that at Moe Tech before he was kicked out because of the science lab incident.
Turkish Cypriots are grinning from ear to ear because of their cousin’s plight, even though its no laughing matter.
‘Cyprus must find €5.8 billion ($7.2 billion) to bolster its failing banks by Monday or watch them collapse.
‘The European Central Bank’s announcement that it would withdraw emergency funding from the Cypriot banks if no bailout was in place gave urgency to the country’s scramble to find cash.
‘European leaders warned in the strongest terms yet that problems would quickly spread throughout the eurozone if Cypriot banks failed.’
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/cyprus-must-raise-72b-by-monday-to-avert-crisis-20130322-2gl44.html#ixzz2OM6ClxDv
Monaro-Brock is a real prankster!
We couldn’t make it to Pisa
‘We’re still operating on a 100-year-old architecture in the Labor Party where many people are influenced by outside forces. They are not their own people. They’re influenced in what they do by other people and that has a big impact on leadership challenges… Some of these people are influenced by outside forces and that includes trade unions.’
Joel Fitzgibbon
Hi JFM life must be hard as a bogan, having to live in a typicalboganhouse sat-arvo.jpeg image by 59moose.
How long have you lived in NSW?
It must suck to have kids with different dads who all choose their names from thingsboganslike.com
I feel sorry for your son Monaro-Brock who can’t master artistic photography, he only seems to be able to down load picture dumps like his dear old dad.
I can’t wait to hear some of your political veiws.
Anyway, Gillards on the way out in my veiw, she’s hanging on by a thread, her voice on the TV tonight sounded a little shakey, I doubt if she’s slept much in the last few days. Her next big cockup and she out.
They’ve only limped through this last week with the help of the spill distracting everyone from the real plot. I get this uneasy feeling that was a stunt/planned/acted out, everythings acted on TV, but made to look real. The next step is to find some bozo to lead them through the wilderness for the next 3/6/9/12 years.
Good sleuthing outlander. I had a bad feeling about Joey from Moe but wasn’t quite sure what it was. Now you’ve outed him as an imposter it’s all become crystal clear. He’s from Drouin!
Drouin is up market. Only the cream of the bogans live in Drouin!
The substance is not made from pigshit!
This quite interesting to be honest…A “spill”…Power grab? Now I am a bit envious of your system…Whoops! We are stuck with our leadership for 4 years at a time!
Too right Sparta, it was a bloodless attempted coup, except for those caught with their pants down … who promptly fell on their swords.
MASSIVE storm! Directly overhead here in Brissy …
We are stuck with our leadership for 4 years at a time!
We’re actually stuck with ours until we become a Republic … ’tis a monarchy!
A trough is directly over Brissy and stretches back to the NT.
Hello, I guess I better introduce myself.
I’m a small business owner in regional SA and I’ve always voted labor.
Business is good and rides on the fortunes of mining.
I read the Trash most nights, and think it has a good balance.
Hope I didn’t offend anyone by giving Joey a tongue lashing.
He was getting up my nose, an AIMN stooge I guess.
His spelling was far to good for a bogan.
Hello Outlander. Welome to Trash Central… As you my have already guessed from the name of the blog, we don’t really have any lofty pretences about being “Australia’s media alternative” or anything like that…
We’re really just a group of folks from all walks of life and different political persuasions who like to have a good argument, albeit with a healthy dose of dry humour.
🙂
Welcome Outlander.
I’m a very small business owner on the Central Tablelands of NSW and have always voted Labor, until that pathetic tax on a harmless trace gas.
G’day, outlander, I’m a Labor politician … and I’m here to help … 🙂
… just how small ARE you, egg?
A trough is directly over Brissy and stretches back to the NT.
I forgot about this … thanks, egg, for explainin’ the bleedin’ obvious … ’bout to cop it again, methinks …
Just looked at the posts’ times above … when does that silly Summer Time finish in Mexico?
A very very small business and probably around Easter for a change back to normal times.
You obviously missed the sarc … should have warned you … you wrote …
I’m a very small business owner … 🙄
That bloody English language
Dirk’s back – did you know? I just asked him how he creates jobs with contracts of employment … he’s a consultant though???
Outlander is as much a small business owner from regional SA as I am a bogan from Moe. Aside from my being a fellow tricker and the fact that my spelling is orthodox I fail to see what I was doing to get up his nose. If he’d care to let me know I’ll be sure to do a lot more of it.
“We’re really just a group of folks from all walks of life and different political persuasions who like to have a good argument, albeit with a healthy dose of dry humour.”
You mean a bunch of idiots who are not even good at walking with one side saying Julia Gillard is our greatest female prime minister ever and the other side saying she is our worst female prime minister ever.
Where is kitty these days ?
It has probably escaped everyone’s notice but the US has passed a budget after 4 years.
No cuts. No taxes,print …print …..print
NO CUTS !
No cuts and business as usual in the US, while Cypriot Greece is expendable, should be taught a lesson and made an example of …..if its wise to do so.
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Missed your sarc TB, distracted by the flash mob of Mick, Outlander and Joey.
Gary Gray to get Resources and Energy.
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/alp-boss-calls-for-more-grassroots-say-20130324-2go2w.html
So this is the party that some support so vociferously, even their office holders agree that recommended reforms “gather dust for 20 years”, and that the grassroots have not say.
The ALP is moribund, a complete embarrassment, it serves no purpose beyond providing a career to ambitious union officials and a few dysfunctional individuals.
In other news, the most experienced and capable ministers are now on the ALP backbench, while Gillard promotes the B team. We now have a Homebrand Ministry.
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Outlander and Joey are both welcome here.
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TB is there a “Certificate 3” in Leadership? Not capability is competency based, and not all training requires a standard certificate (just chiming in regarding a little commentary you’ve exchanged at the “standard free zone” – AIMN)
“Gary Gray to get Resources and Energy.”
Gary Glitter to get Early Childcare and Foreign Affairs.
TB is there a “Certificate 3” in Leadership? Not capability is competency based, and not all training requires a standard certificate (just chiming in regarding a little commentary you’ve exchanged at the “standard free zone” – AIMN)
There ia a Cert III in Frontline Management – aimed at “junior” supervisors … goes up to Ad. Dip. FLM … different levels to cater for heirarchy … ie the Ad Dip is aimed at people at lower management levels … unis will give credit to B.Bus. majors …
The ADF use them – ie Corporal Cert III, Sergeant – Cert IV, WO1/2 Ad/Dip. … officers (generally) degree …
Competency and capability are entirely different (not quite sure what your sentence means) … people can be trained to a certain competency level but will demonstrate varying capabilities within that competency – that’s why it competency level …
I’ve just offered some “valuable info”, regarding awards, to, Diirk … he seems very passionate – reminds me of you, ToM … 🙂
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http://www.news.com.au/national-news/kevin-rudd-sent-me-text-but-i-missed-it-says-simon-crean/story-fncynjr2-1226605153494
So Crean stuffed it up. He didn’t check.
That puts paid to the stupid barracker’s notion that he-
• “fell on his sword”
• “did it to flush out the vipers”
The fact is now established, Crean tried to roll Gillard because she is loathed by the electorate!
Barrackers are just full of crap, they have no notion of the double standards of the ALP the dishonesty that underpins their actions, or the power wielded by the hacks.
The ALP is full of incompetents, and most of them remain in cabinet.
I understand that TB. Supervision is a process, and can be taught as a certificate level competence. Leadership isn’t, it is contextual – values and judgment based.
Plenty of capable people who provide leadership development aren’t delivering an off the shelf competency version.
“So Crean stuffed it up. He didn’t check.”
Why didn’t Rudd use the telephone?? A bit risky to rely on e-mail or text messages for something as important as that don’t you think? Perhaps that is why people do not like Rudd.
Strange thing is that at 10.00am Crean was urging people to be loyal to Gillard. However latter that day he was trying to get rid of her. Or something like that.
‘Gary Glitter to get Early Childcare and Foreign Affairs.’
LOL
What potential leader spells it “Gidday”?
Plenty of capable people who provide leadership development aren’t delivering an off the shelf competency version.
… just protecting your patch, ToM … I can understand that … but its 1950’s thinking … leadership values, decision making processes, communication skills, perfomance evaluation etc are all skills (competencies) that can be learned … the days of “leadershp traits” are long gone … rely on them at your peril …
Even “natural leaders” improve their output and results with structured learning … just sayin’
I’ve personally assisted companies to improve their bottom line with competency based learning and assessment programs as opposed to “monkey see, monkey do” … and all the poor habits that entails … and that included management teams …
TB, I’m no trainer, I understand my limitations, and having me train anyone would be a disaster for both them and me.
I’m talking concepts, ToM …
ie I could train you to understand adult learning and assessment and then deliver in your field of expertise … but if your “field of expertise” knowledge and skills are limited (ie leadership, management “concepts”) … then no-one learns anything … that’s why assessment (correctly applied assessment! Not tick and flick) is such a major part of the learning process … but people concentrate on the “delivery” not the learning and application …
… getting carried away you know my passion for the subject … people like me don’t graduate at 45 ’cause they like study! In my case I had “trod the boards” successfully for two decades but knew I needed to be more professional … the more you know the more you realise how little you know …
And I hate training and/or business consultant prostitutes … people who say the words, entertain the crowd, have no real substance, don’t get results and charge a small fortune … pick ’em a mile away!
Troy Bramston had this fairly uncontroversial comment today:
“Labor’s future depends on how willing it is to accept the critique of Gillard Labor by Crean and Martin Ferguson. It demands Labor recapture the Hawke-Keating legacy, practice consensus politics, improve policy processes, end the class warfare and govern from the vital centre for all Australians.”
But his proposed means of achieving it sound strange indeed:
“Allowing party members to elect the leader will break the stranglehold of factions and unions over the party. It will ensure contests are not only about personality but leadership, policy and electability. It will make backroom deal-making a thing of the past. And leaders will not be vulnerable to sudden removal by powerbrokers.”
Apart from the practicality, say of replacing a PM who resigns mid-term, how will that reduce the power of a faction-controlled caucus? All’s will happen is a greater emphasis on branch-stacking. For as long as the ALP is a controlled entity of the unions, especially in terms of votes at the national and state conferences, the ALP will be a plaything of these increasingly irrelevant special interest groups.
Gillard’s strategy seems to be based on empowering unions, which is exactly what you would expect from someone who owes her power to union bosses. To the rest of the country that is just grotesque.
If leadership could be taught as a competence, some politicians would have tried a course.
But clearly there is no competent political leadership in the country, and none appear willing to acquire it.
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That’s true SB. Gillard (and Shorten) are increasing the relevance of unions while the workforce is voting with its feet.
The ALP is handcuffed to unions, in lockstep, heading for the cliff.
Gillard is the dishonest product of union hacks. She causes people to cringe (from the sound, the image and the reputation) every time she speaks.
This is an interesting development….
‘As part of today’s changes, the Department of Climate Change will be merged with the Industry Department and will become the Department of Industry, Innovation, Climate Change, Science, Research and Tertiary Education.’
ABC News
“Department of Industry, Innovation, Climate Change, Science, Research and Tertiary Education.’”
One of those things is not like the others and has nothing in common with any of them.
This is probably to help with the morale of the useless fact free zone formerly known as the Department of Climate Change.
Why oh why can’t we talk about opening a McDonald’s in outer surburban Melbourne?
It’s the issue of the moment!
You know in my lifetime I think Australia has had only one leader as such. Bob Hawke. You don’t need to agree with their politics to acknowledge leadership. John Howard was more of a boss than a leader, not always the same thing.
Leaders unite.
James – you’re probably too young to rememebr Bily McMahon.
I’d like a Lamburger, please.
“Why oh why can’t we talk about opening a McDonald’s in outer surburban Melbourne?”
Every Time You Eat a Burger, a Nutcase Shoots Up a School
Here’s Billy … pity he had such an awful speech impediment and big ears … as a leader I would never have called him “inspiring” nor “uniting” …
This is a good read too … note the references to disloyalty and backflips (sound familiar?)
And this was the LIBERAL PARTY …
Actually the intrigues during the Peacock Howard “periods” were even more Machiavellian in the LIBERAL PARTY …
They are all the same I tell you! All the same!
TICK FOR TURNBULL
Yes, I’m too young. Although I do remember his wife for some strange reason.
‘Although I do remember his wife for some strange reason.’
It was the dress that had the wags going…a very long slit and quite shocking for some.
These days we get Hyacinth the Hairdresser!
Although I do remember his wife for some strange reason.
LOL! You’re developing a good sense of humour! Kids will do that to you … they don’t take crap … they just … crap … 😦
I see ToM has utterly lost his SoH … single? Perhaps?
This was the dress that caused the kerfuffle … internationally …
But then there was this photo …
Remember this was LADY McMahon and in the 60’s …
What most of us red blooded blokes couldn’t “get” … was Billy as her husband … 😯
It really was the odd couple …
Shows how much notice TB takes!!
He’s posted the same photo as me, but twice!!!!
LOL! C’est la vie … *clinque*
Michael Bublé’s new single …
An interesting insight into how factions rule Labor and why Labor will be rotten to the core until the power of faction bosses is stripped away:
Fucking Unionland scum the lot of them! And if you actually care about the ALP, you should want to abolish this inherently corrupt system.
It is no surprise that people are sickened by Labor when we are ruled by this unholy alliance.
A husband and wife are shopping in their local Coles.
The husband picks up a case of Tooheys New and puts it in their trolley.
‘What do you think you’re doing?’ asks the wife.
‘They’re on sale, only $40 for 24 cans’ he replies.
‘Put them back, we can’t afford them’ demands the wife, and so they carry on shopping
A few aisles further on along the woman picks up a $80 jar of face cream and puts it in the basket.
“What do you think you’re doing?’ asks the husband.
‘It’s my face cream. It makes me look beautiful,’ replies the wife.
Her husband retorts: So does 24 cans of Tooheys, and it’s half the price.’
I was in bed with a blind girl last night and she said that I had the biggest penis she had ever laid her hands on.
I said “You’re pulling my leg”
Aren’t the barrackers hilarious!! Poor Roswell, at AIMN, writes-
”MAJM sounds awfully like Tom of Melbourne.”
Poor Roswell, with his odd conspiracy theories should somehow realise that not all intelligent and independent contributors are me. There are some others, but they’ll probably be banned soon, particularly if they show too much intelligence.
Everything I learnt at school prepared me for nothing in life.
Everything I learnt at school prepared me for nothing in life.
i noticed that with your first post! 😆
http://www.news.com.au/national-news/victoria/steven-james-hunter-pleads-guilty-to-frenzied-stabbing-murder-of-sarah-cafferkey/story-fndo4cq1-1226607435906
So here’s someone who has murdered a young woman, which followed his murder of another young woman.
Is there any legitimate reason that people who commit violent crimes against women should not be tracked for a decade or two?
” invoking of Kevin Rudd from all sides of the political spectrum and the negative predisposition prism towards Julia Gillard’s leadership) are still very much in play despite all that has happened and all that was said because nothing really got resolved except for a very short term resolution to the superficial leadership contest.”
http://gordonsthoughts.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/tuned-out/
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TB will probably enjoy Gordon`s site, interesting, different, politics.