Rostrum: Special Tasmania Tourism Edition!

Burnsidenomics: “The point of it of course is that it’s much less damaging to the people involved and it would be far less expensive even if every one of them received full Centrelink benefits, which they’d spend in the Tasmanian community.

“That would liberate probably another $3 billion a year and out of that $3 billion a year savings I would urge the Federal Government to give the Tasmanian Government $1 billion a year as a thank you for looking after asylum seekers.”

Does anyone understand his logic, because I don’t? How does this “plan” “liberate” $3 billion? Anyone?

Tasmania would be acceptable if it was closer to New Zealand

When I look at CW it only proves that many of their participants, that have self-selected out of here, have done so because they can’t withstand the scrutiny of their honesty and judgment.

‘If Cathy McGowan wins the seat, it will be one of the major upsets of this federal election. Already the pundits are claiming that the reason for her success is captured in her campaign slogan of “Putting Indi first”.

‘Most of the federal electorates within the Murray Darling are held by MPs from either the Liberal or National Parties. Over recent years, however, major water policies instigated by federal Coalition governments that directly impact these electorates have been to their long-term detriment.’

Jennifer Marohasy

This 1946 George Orwell essay gives an insight into the intellectual foundations of Nineteen Eighty-Four.

“The organized lying practiced by totalitarian states is not, as is sometimes claimed, a temporary expedient of the same nature as military deception. It is something integral to totalitarianism, something that would still continue even if concentration camps and secret police forces had ceased to be necessary. Among intelligent Communists there is an underground legend to the effect that although the Russian government is obliged now to deal in lying propaganda, frame-up trials, and so forth, it is secretly recording the true facts and will publish them at some future time. We can, I believe, be quite certain that this is not the case, because the mentality implied by such an action is that of a liberal historian who believes that the past cannot be altered and that a correct knowledge of history is valuable as a matter of course. From the totalitarian point of view history is something to be created rather than learned. A totalitarian state is in effect a theocracy, and its ruling caste, in order to keep its position, has to be thought of as infallible. But since, in practice, no one is infallible, it is frequently necessary to rearrange past events in order to show that this or that mistake was not made, or that this or that imaginary triumph actually happened. Then again, every major change in policy demands a corresponding change of doctrine and a revelation of prominent historical figures. This kind of thing happens everywhere, but is clearly likelier to lead to outright falsification in societies where only one opinion is permissible at any given moment. Totalitarianism demands, in fact, the continuous alteration of the past, and in the long run probably demands a disbelief in the very existence of objective truth.”

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“They don’t trash the budget they spend it on developing the country instead of sitting on their arses … its called building infrastructure! ”

You know this comment is so dishonest. Wasting billions of dollars during the biggest boom in history is explained away.

Labor supporters will excuse any obscenity unless of course the same thing happened under a Coalition govt

(Hardly surprising that he also reads one of the more prominent “right-leaning” blogs. You checked the timestamps, evidently, because you made no “channeling Bolt” accusations.)

The context which you seem to ignore when discussing American involvement in the Allende overthrow was that the USA was fighting a Cold War against the Soviet Union and the spread of Communism. They won that one, by the way.

‘I find it’s an interesting way of monitoring what conservative fetish items are going to be dominating the contemporary public debate.’

Abbott is displaying modesty with his choice of temporary abode, the Murdocracy will strengthen his assets and turn the PM into a well rounded human being.

“Only selling the convenient facts= ideological credibility deficit.”

You missed the “facts” link above, then?

https://theguttertrash.com/2013/09/13/rostrum-special-tasmania-tourism-edition/#comment-33794

Acting in good faith …

‘Making explicit concessions also shows good faith. Often in the course of arguments we encounter valid counterarguments. Rather than be antagonistic or adversarial, concede what is valid to such counterarguments.

‘This shows not only good faith, and civility, but that you are oriented toward achieving consensus, and in fact it makes your argument stronger if you can respond effectively to every such counterargument. Naturally there will be cases in which you find a counterargument to be superior to your own, and such counterarguments may in fact change your own thinking.

‘Rather than simply walk away, give concession to your opponent(s) by stating clearly that they have won the argument through logic, reason, and clarity of concept.’

Wiki

(Who won the Cold War?)

‘Last I heard, they were going to ‘live at home until they’re married’…whatever that means.’

LOL

Its only temporary, but it gives us an insight into the man’s character.

‘While at Oxford, Abbott found another mentor in an American trainee Jesuit priest, Paul Mankowski, whom he calls the finest man he has ever met. Deeply religious and keeping to a vow of poverty, Mankowski wore the clothes of dead priests. He was intelligent and a boxer.’

Louis Nowra

The Monk is taking his cues from the Pope.

Its not generally known that Tony Abbott’s dad wanted to be a priest, but became a dentist instead.

HD provides more evidence that it’s the smart people who contribute here.

I now appear top be banned at Deltoid (again) and Marohasy’s backwater blog.

IPA if you are wandering past Deltoid perhaps you could let Luke know why I’m incommunicardo (sic).

Being an egg at Trash has saved me from detection, otherwise I may have been obliterated throughout the blogosphere.

I hopeful of continued refugee status here.

My CV looks bad, but you can trust me not to be disruptive.

The Deltoid saga now appears to be over, its a block banning, so I’m a genuine refugee.

‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ Who won the Cold War? ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘
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The Govts and Corporations `won` so-called cold-war.
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The worlds `citizens` Lost, as did some of their `ideals` such as fainess and so-called democracy. Elections are now run by `spooking` citizens and politicians claim they will `save` the voters, or countries have `problems` that corporations have `solutions` to. This is why we have the crap elections we have, reported in the crappiest way possible and cities are filling with `tolled` roads, bridges and tunnels that have protection clauses that forbid railway competing with them.

“JULIA Gillard wrote a personal cheque for $4243 to the Department of Finance because her partner, Tim Mathieson, had misused her taxpayer-funded car to drive around Victoria selling shampoo and other haircare products in breach of parliamentary rules.

The documents were provided yesterday after a 10-month battle by the former prime minister and her office to prevent the Department of Finance from following through on its decision to release the material.”

It’s a disgrace that poor Julia had to fight to have this suppressed, the press should just never ever be able to report on the misuse of public funds by Julia’s boyfriend(s)

It’s typical of the HATE MEDIA that they went to such efforts to get this “information”

The sooner the press is muzzled the happier we’ll all be.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national-news/julia-gillard-wrote-personal-cheque-for-4243-to-department-of-finance-because-partner-tim-mathieson-misued-taxpayer-funded-car/story-fncynjr2-1226720672955#ixzz2f9PU6spz

‘ ‘ ‘ I see TPS has given up, AD Astra ‘ ‘ ‘
Well yomm,
that will restrict your `pensioner-watch` program somewhat

Tim Lambert, the blogmasta at Deltoid, now goes by the name of nick.

His banning technique is similar to that practiced at the cafe, leaving a few harmless contrarians so they can enjoy a bit of biff.

My mate Luke has returned as PentaxZ and Tim leaves him in the loop. Luke has always been a warmist and has only recently become a sceptical convert, if you see my drift.

I sometimes get up under the name of egg pantzwettar, but its held in moderation until snipped. The Denialati are feared the most because they offer troof and ‘ope.

The revolution is now.