Craig Thomson Guilty!

I cant believe it……………he’s innocent

What about that bitch Kathy Jackson ?

There are going to be some disappointed girls at the Red Turbo Spa Room tonight

Wow, I guess that means that everyone is free to accuse him now. Oh, wait? Some have a lot of catching up to do.

Think of the baby!

Now its off to the Parliamentary Privileges Committee as well

And now the Civil Action can restart………………

HSU acting national secretary Chris Brown welcomed the verdict.

”It has been six long years since the fraud was first uncovered with three major investigations leading to today’s verdict,” he said. He said the union would seek to recover ”any monies stolen from the union”.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/craig-thomson-found-guilty-of-fraud-theft-charges-20140218-32xay.html#ixzz2tdSwkcmH

I just cant wait for the RC

Hang on to your hats when that starts………………………this Blog will be very busy this year.

And Bill Shorterm will be gone by years end

”He is a liar,” Marg Brehaut said later.

Definitely.

He deserves to be jailed for contempt of parliament for that speech.

It certainly looks that way now.

“Down at the cafe it’s like a fkn ghost town……”

I know it so fucking funny.

It seems to now consist of the mindless rantings of Catching Up who with the help of Mobius and fellow leftwing featherweights are holding fort against an ever rising tide of Right Wingers.

Min and the Dickhead are barely there.

Yes it seems like it might be time for a life threatening attack of Loopie. Seems severely overdue.

Just for the Hit meter.

“Oh……………the Humanity”

And before the Lefties go on and on about Jackson dont forget this……..

“VICTORIA Police has dropped an investigation into Health Services Union whistleblower Kathy Jackson over more than $100,000 paid to her and her former husband, and wages paid to the children of her new partner.

Detective Gary Jenkins confirmed to The Australian yesterday that Victoria’s fraud squad had conducted a “thorough investigation” into allegations raised by the HSU’s national office that the payments had not been properly accounted for. “There were no criminal offences detected,” he said.

It brings to a close an attempt to link Ms Jackson to an alleged web of corruption after she alerted police to evidence that resulted in charges against former Labor MP and union official Craig Thomson and a conviction against former HSU boss and ALP federal president Michael Williamson.”

Having found that she did make cash withdrawals they also found that all was accounted for.

However generally if an executive of a medium/large company was found to be using a company credit card to make cash withdrawals they would very quickly find their arse parked on a seat opposite an internal audit exec or a finance director asking for a damn good explanation for it as it is generally strictly forbidden in all the joints I have ever terrorized.

It is not accepted practice……………..period.

In her case she cant be charged with fraud if she has properly accounted for everything

“In defence of Craig, he’s mentally ill”

I would fully expect such a matter might come up in the pre-sentencing hearing.

”””found guilty over the first set of charges””’

hooker said thomson was a polite, softly spoken man that always used a condom and paid with a credit card

(l heard that on TV from other room)

…meanwhile Adrian (who won’t read this because he never looks here) is pining for someone to debate the issues of the day with.

Adrian is another who prefers to debate with only specifically selected opponents.

‘In fact, it’s given me pause to think why I even bother…….’

Its the dynamic of the place and it sometimes gets nasty. If we could just wander down to the kaf and smash the place up, we would, but instead we dissolve into a larrikin gang and beat ourselves up.

Don’t lose heart, you have a great blog here.

Australia’s most sophisticated city… But then you already knew that.

Unfortunately I look like having to spend a bit of time in Perth soon, which is Australia’s least sophisticated city (if you exclude Canberra – which doesn’t really qualify as a city)

‘China owns the world thanks to Wall St greed’

Interesting theory, not sure its that simple.

“You call me a commo,… if you did that to me face to face I would flatten you ……”

I look forward to you visiting Palm Beach sometime…….LOL

OK I’ll just call you a Bolshevik

Is that better……?

Although Commo is a bit more latter half 20th Century.

Bolshie is sooooo 1920s

End of Empire

‘Under current projections, the United States will find itself in second place behind China (already the world’s second largest economy) in economic output around 2026, and behind India by 2050. Similarly, Chinese innovation is on a trajectory toward world leadership in applied science and military technology sometime between 2020 and 2030, just as America’s current supply of brilliant scientists and engineers retires, without adequate replacement by an ill-educated younger generation.’

Alfred McCoy / Huffpo

“calling me a como, is very very insulting”

Perhaps you should refrain from participation in political blogs or at least refrain from opening lines like “Listen all you whitey rightvoide teabagging fucktards…………..”

Or perhaps inhabit blogs that welcome recipes and poetry

LOL

finally it is resolved, is anyone surprised? the wheels of justice may run creakily and slowly, but get there in the end. How many charges did they get him on? I thought there were about 157 or something.

paying for prostitutes was always a headline to get the public full of moral outrage. Tell me, how is thommo’s crime of fraud any different to pollies fraudulent misuse of ‘entitlements’ where the taxpayer pays for their personal expenses like weddings of friends, gifts to others, holidays and airfares for personal busines, and personal sporting/charity endeavours? The nature of the expense makes no difference to me, it’s all immoral.

thomson would’ve been long gone if it wasn’t a minority govt. I feel quite sure if it was abbott & co were in the same position, they would do exactly the same. Look how howard quickly lowered the bar on his ministers code of conduct when so many of them could not meet the conduct required. IMO, with all of his past misdeeds and possible crimes, TA Abbott also fails the character test, but look where he is now, you guys accepted his ‘wiping the slate clean’ without even a sideways glance. Now we have asylum seekers [remember they have committed no crimes] being killed while imprisoned under abbott’s orders. Isn’t there a RC into roof insulation deaths due to govt policy? certainly puts the “we’re only concerned about safety and deaths at sea” hypocrisy into perspective.

“Just because jackson didn’t use the money she stole from members for prostitutes doesn’t make her any less guilty or more moral in my eyes”

And I still feel the same, see walrus’ comment above, jackson is no ‘whistleblower’, she is still guilty of misappropriating members money. Do you think the members were happy that she paid lawler’s sons, took large cash withdrawals and skiing trips outside of already generous wages and conditions? Perhaps the whistleblower nonsense came up when she and lawler were pillowtalking, as a way to get thomsen but gain protection/immunity for herself. lawler has had to leave the state after bringing the FWA into disrepute.

I swear sb files every comment that I [and some others] make away for use at a later date. that’s twice in two days he’s quoted previous comments I’ve made. I have a good memory, you know, but just for the record, I still stand by everything I’ve said, so no need to pour over every past comment to find what you think is a gloatworthy item. I don’t take it all so personally myself, that I would even bother, but each to his own!
IIRC, no-one defended thomsen as an innocent person, we always said if guilty, he deserves whatever he gets, but wait until proven guilty and all the facts are known.

pretty distasteful saga all round really.

Tell me, how is thommo’s crime of fraud any different to pollies fraudulent misuse of ‘entitlements’

One is illegal, the other only becomes illegal if the pollie doesn’t pay it. It appears that, in both cases, oversights can happen, it is dependent on what the individual does when these oversights are discovered.

If nothing is done, or denial, then, morally, to me, they are akin.

she is still guilty of misappropriating members money.

Yes, and to far above Thomsons rate as well. Guess she chose the right side to cover her arse. That doesn’t condone what Thomson has done. His initial crime, and worse, his subsequent lies to voters and those who work hard in the Labor party who he has now tarnished irrevocably, are unconscionable. He has personally damaged the Labor party and given the Liberals all the ammunition they need for another three years of union bashing and a much better chance of now retaining Government, even if they are this abominable for the next three years.

The question is, what is Labor doing to make sure this doesn’t occur again?.

A few points AO –

”thomson would’ve been long gone if it wasn’t a minority govt. I feel quite sure if it was abbott & co were in the same position, they would do exactly the same.

I agree with that. I think Abbott would probably have behaved in a similar way, I think he would have proved to be expedient, but the point is that it was Gillard who-

• Knifed Rudd when he had the ALP in a winning position
• Made a written agreement with Wilkie and broke it
• Expressed her complete confidence in a crook

Abbott may have been equally, or more, expedient but he didn’t get the chance to demonstrate this following the 2010 election.

”Now we have asylum seekers [remember they have committed no crimes] being killed while imprisoned under abbott’s orders. Isn’t there a RC into roof insulation deaths due to govt policy? certainly puts the “we’re only concerned about safety and deaths at sea” hypocrisy into perspective.

That seems reasonable too.

The protests/riots by people in a desperate situation are entirely predictable, and controllable, just as the outcomes from the home insulation debacle were.

Riots and violent protests can have tragic outcomes, and the government has to accept its share of the blame.

” lawler has had to leave the state after bringing the FWA into disrepute.

I think Lawler was on approved (annual or long service?) leave. I’m not sure that any ‘disrepute” came into his nonattendance at a hearing. His absence was approved by the FWA President.

Lawler is well regarded for his exceptional intelligence and huge range of capabilities and there is no widespread view beyond Wicks and the like that he’s done anything beyond exercising some indiscrete judgment.

Yes, the vendetta mentality runs deep in unions, punishment & get square is a key motivator in their behaviour, “make them pay” is their motto.

Jackson has been investigated and cleared of any criminal behaviour, but in any event she wasn’t in parliament and therefor her behaviour isn’t of such public interest. The only reason she is of any interest is because she assisted to show the criminality of Thompson, and the ALP/unions just won’t tolerate that.

“Pretty low comment.”

No it is the truth. ALP supporters are only interested in deaths in camps when the Coalition is in power.

Same goes for deaths at sea. We have 334 poles for each SIEVX death but no memorials for the 1,000 -2,000 people who drowned under Rudd/Gillard.

ALP supporters are only interested in deaths in camps when the Coalition is in power.

That is a pretty disgusting remark in itself. I was horrified at the deaths occurring under Labors watch. I would have seen anything for it to stop. It hasn’t, and remains horrifying. What is worse now is that deaths are occurring that reflect immediately on policies and actions implemented by the Government. You cannot blame people trying to get here on any local Government policy, the fact that people want to get her is outside of our control, which is why we need to work with regional partners.

The whole point of democracy is that we settle things at the ballot box.

Only the truly gullible would believe that the elections we have represent a democracy. I haven’t noticed a democratic choice of candidates at the branches, both parties have that all rigged and the voters are given their choice, not ours.

There is no open and transparent information about the political, religious, business and community affiliations that the representatives have. How does a CEO of a junk food lobby get to take down a public interest food site?

The voting system of preferences manages to work in the favour of the two major players who then take turns in the gravy train. Libs love a preferential system because they would hardly ever get in without it, how else can you win an election with a lesser primary vote than your opponents?

We now have a ‘preference whisperer’ to instruct ‘parties’ in how to get into the senate, these parties pretend to be sports and fishing parties who stand to serve the interests of billionionaires.

The lobbying industry has distorted any democracy and governments are beholden to them and their wealthy donors. Party unity also distorts democracy by having members vote according to the wishes of the party and not the electorate.

…and so on

let’s not pretend it’s a democracy for the people to decide.

(It’s very simple. The Archon (aka Leviathan) can have its monopoly-on-the-use-of-force head cut off; governments should be a little afraid of their people. And that goes double for whenever overt, covert, or latent violence is being inflicted on a people, or significant parts of it; the social contract is become at a natural end, for breach of good faith. Or, something like that.)

I quite like Ricky – he’s good value.

“Maybe Parliament needs to be vindicated?”

Or maybe Bill Short-Term needs to take a revised position on Thomson. The Parliament can jail or fine Thomson should the Court fail to do so. And since he’s by admission almost bankrupt fines would be of no use. So jail time could be an option.

“The political damage is already done.”

With plenty more to come. It goes with the narrative of “why is Bill Short-Term so resistant to an RC if he also tries to block a convicted criminal from an enquiry.”

“Is Bill Short-Term just completely soft on criminal activity even when there is a conviction ?”

Blah……….blah…………..blah………!

Yes, this blog is unique-

• Exchanges are (usually) orderly, informed and intelligent
• Humour is rife
• Ridicule is sharp
• Self deprecation and boasting are posted in equal measure
• Everyone is welcome (well… almost everyone)

This is a site appreciated by many, so perhaps we should make it a little easier for the owner to run.

“Ricky – a blogger on this forum has threatened violence against another poster on this forum and physically appeared at his/her place of residence. ”

TB may and will correct me if I’m wrong, but, if memory serves, Scaper “appeared” at his place after he was invited there. At that point, Scaper hadn’t gone through his Damascene conversion of leftoid to wingnut.

”””’Bumper profits but sounds of silence in Canberra:
http://www.smh.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/bumper-profits-but-sounds-of-silence-in-canberra-20140218-32xoy.html#ixzz2tjLIHLS4
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armchair, l`m not sure pascoe is talking about the same thing mr-eleventy is talking about,

teh `fortune-500`s and asx`top-200` etc, are measuring `monster`corporations, not mom+pop-biz which `may` be what mr-eleventy is banging on about, (as he often has),

this could be crap from pascoe

And if you want a face to face robust discussion you better bring a step ladder LOL

Ouch!

http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/cathy-wilcox-20090909-fhd6.html

According to the Parliamentary Priveleges Act the Speaker of the Lower House can recommend a vote by the HoR to decide by simple majority whether a current or ex member should be jailed for upto 6 months for an offence under the Act which includes misleading the House.

Plus get this. There is in accordance with Westminster tradition a small jail cell under our Parliament House.

Imagine having the current speaker Bronwyn Bishop bring you your meals in a metal tin each night with a big baton and a wink.

Holy fuck !

‘THE Coalition will push the Senate to release thousands of pages of secret documents unearthed during investigations into former Labor MP and convicted union thief Craig Thomson.

‘Senior Coalition figures hope the move could expose further detail about webs of union cronyism and corruption, and further wedge Bill Shorten on his obstruction of government efforts to launch inquiries into such activities.’

Higgins / Oz

‘LABOR will not oppose a parliamentary motion apologising for “egregious falsehoods” uttered by convicted former MP Craig Thomson during a now infamous speech proclaiming his innocence.

‘The unusual, Liberal-sponsored motion will also apologise to Health Services Union members for Thomson’s spending $267,000 of union funds on electioneering, and for his fraudulent use of union credit cards to purchase sexual services.’

Owens / Oz

(So, if I understand the sub judice piece aright, we’re now in the ‘green zone’ on the explanatory chart, and should proceed with caution, lest we still run afoul? Which would make waiting to go rank with over-generalizations and speculative extensions beyond the instant case to innominate others, and perhaps not even then, or comments on particularities of process and outcome and ultimate criminaluiy, until after any appeal, the more prudent option? Which is odd, really, since Craig’s team worked hard to have the matter first heard in Mags rather than Sup, and ran an unusual argument, there, in inferior court.)

Bill Short-term must be sooooooooooooooo pleased. LOL

After calling for Union corruption to be investigated by the Police it looks like George Brandis has succumbed to Shorten’s relentless pressure and agreed……………..LOL

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/police-taskforce-to-work-with-royal-commission-on-union-corruption-george-brandis-to-announce-20140225-33e7v.html

”””Best of all!””’
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”””””””’Bannings By popular demand ToM has been banned from further commenting on this blog site.””””””””’
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Still stinging huh, 🙂 Troll`in the same pensioners across several blogs from ya`cubicle, ya`can`t say you were`nt beggin`for that outcome.
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Suck it up Princess 🙂

It’s a badge of honour 3.45

The sentencing hearing starts today in Melbourne Magistrates Court

“Nice timing as the ICAC hearings into the Obeid/Sinodinos racket are starting.”

Yep

If Sinodinos has done wrong then he should cop it in the eye as well. Although my understanding was that he bailed as soon as he heard Obeid was involved.

Its going to be interesting to see how Joe Tripodi explains why he altered an official document ……………well I suppose we know why he altered it but the explanation will be a humdinger.

Gotta give it to Kristina Keneally though. She seems to be the only Premier who actually read what was put in front of her. That’s twice from memory that she has blocked something that the Obeid/Tripodi/Kelly trio have tried to get through her.

Certainly not just a very pretty face.

No I missed it.

I read the program guide after 8:30 which is unlike me as I do tend to scan the 8pm to 10:30pm ABC and SBS slots every night much earlier

I’ve actually met Tara. Hopefully will find it on Catch Up ABC

I was busy comforting Andrew weeping together over the phone waiting for Tony Jones to give his Sorry Day Speech…………………LOL………………He actually gave a pretty much full blown apology to Bolt

“…….but because of the work you do in Cambodia…”

I went 3 times and it was a great experience. Hard work and soooooooooooo fucking hot. Mosquitos the size of which you would’nt believe………they almost block out the sunsets…………….and dont get me started on the damn leeches……………..LOL

I now prefer to get a few of my business friends together and we send them wads of cash accompanied by my friend’s teenage sons and a few daughters who my friends acknowledge are spoiled boarding school brats who need to see how lucky they are.

“”(despite what people say about you…)”

OMG

What have they been saying ??????????????????

LOL

Its quite nice to be able to throw huge insults back and forth with people like Ricky and TB and then just wake up the next day like nothin’ had happened then onto the next topic.

Thank you for the blog Reb