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Craig Thomson Guilty!

February 18, 2014

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Craig Thomson has been found guilty over the first set of charges against him. Magistrate now going through other alleged offences…

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  1. Walrus permalink
    February 18, 2014 11:31 am

    I cant believe it……………he’s innocent

    What about that bitch Kathy Jackson ?

  2. February 18, 2014 11:31 am

    Craig Thomson found guilty obtaining financial advantage by using his HSU credit card to pay for sexual services and making cash withdrawals…

  3. February 18, 2014 11:35 am

    The case heard testimony from a former prostitute who said Mr Thomson paid her for sex on several occasions, as well as HSU officials who said claiming escort services, adult movies and private travel on the union credit cards was not acceptable though there was no written policy.

    Records from Sydney brothel Tiffany’s Girls have shown a job sheet from its ‘Red Turbo Spa Room’ matched charges on Mr Thomson’s card, with hotel rooms where he stayed also matching escort agency records.

    Mr Thomson, who lost his seat after standing as an independent in last year’ election, pleaded not guilty to the charges.

    His legal team argued the rules of the HSU did not define the boundaries of work-related expenditure, and because the expenses had been approved and paid, no party had been actually defrauded.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/craig-thomson-found-guilty-of-defrauding-hsu/story-e6frg6nf-1226830337709

  4. Tony permalink
    February 18, 2014 11:37 am

    The magistrate is obviously a Liberal stooge.

  5. Walrus permalink
    February 18, 2014 11:39 am

    There are going to be some disappointed girls at the Red Turbo Spa Room tonight

  6. February 18, 2014 11:40 am

    But, but, but what about all that stuff that Wixxy said….??

  7. Tony permalink
    February 18, 2014 11:43 am

    Can contempt of parliament charges be brought against an ex-MP (you know, in light of his tearful denials in the House, and all)?

  8. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 18, 2014 11:44 am

    This matter will be appealed. All fair-minded people will wait for the Court of Appeal to rectify this gross miscarriage of justice before reaching a conclusion.

    Please refer to the independentaustralia.net site for my views until I have time to memorise them. In the meantime I will give Wicksy a good felching and spit out the answers when I’m done.

  9. Tony permalink
    February 18, 2014 11:45 am

    TomR maintains his perfect record of being wrong on every issue he’s ever argued for. 😯

  10. Walrus permalink
    February 18, 2014 11:59 am

    Now bring on the Royal Commission……….

  11. Jherek Jagged permalink
    February 18, 2014 12:10 pm

    Wow, I guess that means that everyone is free to accuse him now. Oh, wait? Some have a lot of catching up to do.

  12. Walrus permalink
    February 18, 2014 12:22 pm

    “I guess that means that everyone is free to accuse him now”

    No need to accuse him of anything boofhead.

    Its now a court proven fact

  13. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 18, 2014 12:26 pm

    “Some have a lot of catching up to do.”

    You want to do Catching Up????????? A lot??????? Sick, sick, sick.

  14. Jherek Jagged permalink
    February 18, 2014 12:28 pm

    You want to do Catching Up???
    ??

  15. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 18, 2014 12:45 pm

    Think of the baby!

  16. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 18, 2014 12:50 pm

    • It’s all a media beat-up
    • There is no evidence
    • He’ll make a comprehensive statement
    • Think of the baby
    • He has a nice wife
    • Gillard supports him 100%
    • Fairfax settled with him
    • Wait for FWA to issue its findings
    • He’s not been charged
    • Wait for the court to decide

    ….now I’m expecting –
    • He has a baby and
    • Wait for the appeal

    and… here’s a poem!

  17. Walrus permalink
    February 18, 2014 1:01 pm

    Now its off to the Parliamentary Privileges Committee as well

  18. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 18, 2014 1:03 pm

    Catching Up in one of her many guises.

  19. Walrus permalink
    February 18, 2014 1:07 pm

    And now the Civil Action can restart………………

    HSU acting national secretary Chris Brown welcomed the verdict.

    ”It has been six long years since the fraud was first uncovered with three major investigations leading to today’s verdict,” he said. He said the union would seek to recover ”any monies stolen from the union”.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/craig-thomson-found-guilty-of-fraud-theft-charges-20140218-32xay.html#ixzz2tdSwkcmH

  20. Walrus permalink
    February 18, 2014 1:08 pm

    LOL @ sp

  21. Walrus permalink
    February 18, 2014 1:10 pm

    I just cant wait for the RC

    Hang on to your hats when that starts………………………this Blog will be very busy this year.

    And Bill Shorterm will be gone by years end

  22. TB Queensland permalink
    February 18, 2014 1:16 pm

    Good decision … I’ve been convinced since my last jury duty that the system does work 99% of the time …

    Just a pity that most people can’t control their lynch mob gene … and let justice take its course …

  23. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 18, 2014 1:16 pm

    The RC will be a blessing for Labor as it will be able to get rid of its unlovely grub of a leader even with its cumbersome leadership rules.

  24. February 18, 2014 1:18 pm

    I look forward to reading Catching Up’s insightful analysis of the Thomson verdict and her conviction that he has been set up.

    😆

  25. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 18, 2014 1:18 pm

    “Just a pity that most people can’t control their lynch mob gene … and let justice take its course …”

    Most people understand the difference between the criminal standard and the right of citizens to form a view of their grubby politicians. By your standards we should shut up about Obeid, Tripodi, Maitland, McDonald and the rest of the ALP crime cartel until they are convicted.

  26. Meta permalink
    February 18, 2014 1:23 pm

    (The Canberra Times reporting seems to contain a bit more detail than some of the MSM articles I’ve read: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/craig-thomson-found-guilty-of-fraud-theft-charges-20140218-32xay.html . It might interest some.)

  27. egg permalink
    February 18, 2014 1:27 pm

    ”He is a liar,” Marg Brehaut said later.

    Definitely.

  28. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 18, 2014 1:32 pm

    Thomson did not comment as he left the court, but he was heckled by relatives of Marco Bolano, a HSU official and one of the group who ensured the former MP’s conduct came to light.

    Mr Bolano’s partner, Kylee Brehaut, and her mother, Marg Brehaut, called Thomson a liar and said he deserved to be found guilty. They said Mr Bolano and his family had gone ”through hell” since he and others made Thomson’s offending known.

    ”He is a liar,” Marg Brehaut said later.

    But i thought this whole thing was a set up by Brandis and the Liberal Party??

  29. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 18, 2014 1:35 pm

    “But i thought this whole thing was a set up by Brandis and the Liberal Party??”

    This injustice shows only how far their tentacles reach. The rats Jackson and Bolano and their families deserve all the get for breaking the Unionland code of silence. Unity is strength!

  30. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 18, 2014 1:39 pm

    “Marg Brehaut said Thomson ”deserved an academy award for that speech’.”

    He deserves to be jailed for contempt of parliament for that speech.

  31. Jherek Jagged permalink
    February 18, 2014 1:46 pm

    He deserves to be jailed for contempt of parliament for that speech.

    It certainly looks that way now.

  32. Meta permalink
    February 18, 2014 1:49 pm

    (I tend to concur with TB’s assessment of the central role of the judicial process in securing justice; KL’s views on credit cards and access to funds; Walrus’s views on the need for better internal controls, and enforcement of them; and tend to resist any imputation of guilt by association, even as the irony of quoting associated union members’ views about Thomson’s conduct seems lost; Chris Brown’s views on recovery of monies would seem sensible, too; and, imho, Thomson should never have been placed in the position before Parliament he apparently starred in, per the English model of sending MPs to the cross-benches until the law of the land has run its course.)

  33. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 18, 2014 1:52 pm

    So Gillard was wrong to assert that “a line had been crossed”?

  34. February 18, 2014 2:04 pm

    The Prime Minister [Julia Gillard] said she has “complete confidence” in Mr Thomson.

    “I think he is doing a fine job representing the people of his constituency in this place, raising their concerns in this parliament as is appropriate for a local member,” Ms Gillard said.

    “I look forward to him continuing to do that job for a very long, long, long time to come.”

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-16/gillard-defends-craig-thomson-over-escort-scandal/2842042

  35. February 18, 2014 2:07 pm

    I wonder how all those people who donated to the “Craig Thomson Legal Defence Fund”feel now….?

    On the fund’s website, Thomson states that: ‘I know that like me, a great majority of people believe in the rights of all Australians to defend themselves in a court of law. To help me defend myself against these wrongful charges, your donations are greatly appreciated’.

    He says that without public donations he will run out of money to pay for his legal representation.

    “It’s a real danger,” he said.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-30/thomson-asks-public-to-donate-to-legal-defence/4661000

  36. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 18, 2014 2:48 pm

    Just to help patricia get started!

    (she may have writer’s block)

  37. February 18, 2014 4:53 pm

    How amusement…..Down at the cafe it’s like a fkn ghost town and meanwhile at the lofty AIMN Miglo’s declaring that there have been 12 attempts to hack into his Facebook account….

    Can we expect to see a health scare sometime soon??

  38. Walrus permalink
    February 18, 2014 5:02 pm

    “Down at the cafe it’s like a fkn ghost town……”

    I know it so fucking funny.

    It seems to now consist of the mindless rantings of Catching Up who with the help of Mobius and fellow leftwing featherweights are holding fort against an ever rising tide of Right Wingers.

    Min and the Dickhead are barely there.

    Yes it seems like it might be time for a life threatening attack of Loopie. Seems severely overdue.

    Just for the Hit meter.

    “Oh……………the Humanity”

  39. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 18, 2014 5:09 pm

    I’d imagine they’re all very busy writing their apologies and retractions.

  40. TB Queensland permalink
    February 18, 2014 5:16 pm

    should shut up about Obeid, Tripodi, Maitland, McDonald and the rest of the ALP crime cartel until they are convicted.

    Belt yer keyboard till yer fingers bleed and yer teeth chatter if it makes yer feel better … it’ll have no effect in bringing “justice” any closer or faster …. and its nowt ter me … I can but chuckle …

    … but as a farmer once told my father on the Sussex Downs … as we came up on a herd of cows crossing the road (very slowly) …

    … “Yuuum can parp yor bloody ‘orn all day … bart ye won’ shift moi bloody cows … payshence lad, payshence …”

    And I do agree with this …

    He deserves to be jailed for contempt of parliament for that speech.

  41. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 18, 2014 5:29 pm

    Craig Thomson came undone because he chose to sue Fairfax. He backed himself into that corner by telling his pre-selection committee, when the rumours of his alleged wrong-doing were raised, that he was innocent and to prove the point he was going to sue Fairfax.

    It was during the discovery process of the Fairfax case that the brothel records (including his credit card and details of Thomson’s drivers licence) were obtained under subpoena and also his phone records. Those items were introduced into evidence in the preliminary stages of the case and thus they were available to the public.

    Without that happening Thommo may well have gotten off. But the publication of the credit card, licence and phone details made it difficult for Thomson to hide and made his excuses look very lame indeed.

    Credit to Kate McLymont for sticking to her guns and to Fairfax for backing her by funding the court case and not settling it. It is unusual in defamation cases that the plaintiff walks away and pays the defendant’s costs.

    I just wonder what this pathological liar will say next.

  42. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 18, 2014 5:36 pm

    Peter Wicks: “Whilst authorisation for Thomson’s spending was never proven one way or the other, Magistrate Rozencwajg made the decision that much of Thomson’s spending did not pass the “commonsense” test.”

    Obviously Wicks was in no position to assess the matter on the basis of common sense. not having any himself.

  43. egg permalink
    February 18, 2014 5:38 pm

    ‘He deserves to be jailed for contempt of parliament for that speech.’

    That might be up to the Privileges Committee.

  44. Walrus permalink
    February 18, 2014 5:59 pm

    And before the Lefties go on and on about Jackson dont forget this……..

    “VICTORIA Police has dropped an investigation into Health Services Union whistleblower Kathy Jackson over more than $100,000 paid to her and her former husband, and wages paid to the children of her new partner.

    Detective Gary Jenkins confirmed to The Australian yesterday that Victoria’s fraud squad had conducted a “thorough investigation” into allegations raised by the HSU’s national office that the payments had not been properly accounted for. “There were no criminal offences detected,” he said.

    It brings to a close an attempt to link Ms Jackson to an alleged web of corruption after she alerted police to evidence that resulted in charges against former Labor MP and union official Craig Thomson and a conviction against former HSU boss and ALP federal president Michael Williamson.”

    Having found that she did make cash withdrawals they also found that all was accounted for.

    However generally if an executive of a medium/large company was found to be using a company credit card to make cash withdrawals they would very quickly find their arse parked on a seat opposite an internal audit exec or a finance director asking for a damn good explanation for it as it is generally strictly forbidden in all the joints I have ever terrorized.

    It is not accepted practice……………..period.

    In her case she cant be charged with fraud if she has properly accounted for everything

  45. February 18, 2014 6:14 pm

    Listen all you whitey rightvoide teabagging fucktards most of the people in the center and centre left are happy as fuck that this grub got done…he’s about the only unionist that I have ever seen that wears loafers and has to pay for a fuck… I wonder if those drones that pitched in for his legals are gonna be askin for a refund?…The HSU is a yuppy trough of latte sipping yogurt garglers.

  46. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 18, 2014 6:18 pm

    “I wonder if those drones that pitched in for his legals are gonna be askin for a refund?”

    You mean the ALP, who kicked in the most?

  47. Walrus permalink
    February 18, 2014 6:20 pm

    “Listen all you whitey rightvoide teabagging fucktards…………..”

    And you dont like being labelled a Commo…………………………..LOL

  48. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 18, 2014 6:25 pm

    I like it when Bed Pann talks dirty.

  49. egg permalink
    February 18, 2014 6:28 pm

    ‘he’s about the only unionist that I have ever seen that wears loafers and has to pay for a fuck… ‘

    Now a fashion critic and moral guardian, is there no end to your talents?

    In defence of Craig, he’s mentally ill and we are seeking community service.

  50. Walrus permalink
    February 18, 2014 6:33 pm

    “In defence of Craig, he’s mentally ill”

    I would fully expect such a matter might come up in the pre-sentencing hearing.

  51. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 18, 2014 6:46 pm

    ***sigh***

    I miss the old days…

    Remember when we’d argue about-

    • Craig is innocent/it’s a media beat up
    • Rudd/Gillard’s policy on asylum seekers is nice (every one of them)
    • Rudd had no intention of challenging and was happy to see out his days as foreign minister
    • Unions and warlords didn’t run the ALP
    • Gillard didn’t really break her written word to Wilkie (and even if she did, so what?)
    • Swan was a great treasurer

    What ever happened to all those people that used to debate those issues?

  52. TB Queensland permalink
    February 18, 2014 6:47 pm

    And before the Lefties go on and on about Jackson dont forget this……..

    Er? Whose going on about jckson? Or fkn Thomson for that matter … scum is scum no matter which side of the scales they creep on …

    And that reminds me … what do you think about the rewinding of the financial advisors regs, Wally …

  53. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 18, 2014 6:48 pm

    Craig with all his contortions and deceptions has been fun to watch – he really is a guilty pleasure.

  54. February 18, 2014 6:49 pm

    Listen Walrus..you blubbering knob, why the fuck wouldn’t I be angry? You call me a commo,… if you did that to me face to face I would flatten you because three of my family were murdered by commo’s dick wad…then you blat on that all lefties support Thomson? If you think you’re gloating to me, You’re an imbecile, My mates that work for unions would rip his head off if the met him…just more ignorant circle jerking confirming you’re nothing but a parrot without an original thought to bless yourself….

  55. TB Queensland permalink
    February 18, 2014 6:50 pm

    Here’s the story re FOFO on The Business last night …

    Push the button marked > 😉

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/programs/the-business/

  56. TB Queensland permalink
    February 18, 2014 6:53 pm

    Ooops FOFA

  57. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 18, 2014 7:03 pm

    “Er? Whose going on about jckson?”

    Only the rusted-on loonies like this?

    “Just because jackson didn’t use the money she stole from members for prostitutes doesn’t make her any less guilty or more moral in my eyes”

    Or like this (from Jiggy Jherk):

    Kathy Jackson (the only proven liar to date in this saga)…

    I shoed further up this thread where Jackson’s testimony exposed her lying on 7.30 about receiving payments for child care…..

    She put herself in the limelight when she went on 7.30 and lied to the nation while trying to smear someone else….

    Or this (from Bed Pann):

    THIS IS POLITICAL AND INITIATED BY BANDIS TO GAIN POLITICAL AND IDEOLOGICAL CAPITAL. IT IS ALSO ABOUT KATHY JACKSON AND HER BOYFRIEND THE 2IC OF FAIR WORK AUSTRALIA AND A MATE OF ABBOTT GAINING CONTROL OF THE UNION.

  58. February 18, 2014 7:06 pm

    “What ever happened to all those people that used to debate those issues?”

    Given that most of them were blogging from retirement homes I imagine many of them have already expired…

  59. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 18, 2014 7:06 pm

    “you’re nothing but a parrot”

    Everyone knows he is a Walrus, silly.

    You are so cute when you are angry, Bed Pann.

  60. February 18, 2014 7:08 pm

    Is Ricky the new rock shifter…? 😯

  61. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 18, 2014 7:14 pm

    “I imagine many of them have already expired…”

    You would cry too,
    If it happened to you..

    Hiding under the blankets, all dreams shattered, feeling like a fool, but hoping against hope that there will be …. an appeal!

  62. February 18, 2014 7:30 pm

    shove those piles back in splatter what The whole Thomson thing is just Bandis saving the Unions from the evils of Thomo the brothel creeping cowboy?…no political motivation whatsoever? Kathy Jackson is just as bad (minus the hookers) the whole culture there is yuppie bitch pit last Lille pad before a right wing pre selection.

  63. egg permalink
    February 18, 2014 7:52 pm

    ‘THE former union official accused of setting Craig Thomson up “with a bunch of hookers” says he feels vindicated after the disgraced former MP was today found guilty of using members’ funds to pay for sex.’

    Deery / Daily Terror

  64. TB Queensland permalink
    February 18, 2014 7:55 pm

    Its really is Back to The Future here …

    So many uptight people … so many silly personal insults … its like watching the Poms and the IRA … both wrong sometimes and both sometimes right … but neither accepting when it happens …

    Its really fkn wearying … I might take a holiday break soon …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Is Ricky the new rock shifter…?

    Nah … the rock shifter couldn’t even find a rhyming word for “shit” …

    sb, comes closer I reckon … his poetry is crap too, I read a bit today …

    I don’t know about you, sReb, but all that uptight my side is right crap that seems to permeate every post just lately just goes over my head now … I couldn’t seriuosly and certainly honestly barrack for any political party in Oz …

    I feel a bit of empathy for the German Jews in 1937-38 … what are they doing to my beautiful country – and why do so many people not see it?

  65. February 18, 2014 8:03 pm

    “I don’t know about you, sReb, but all that uptight my side is right crap that seems to permeate every post just lately just goes over my head now “

    AGREED TB!

    In fact, it’s given me pause to think why I even bother…….

  66. February 18, 2014 8:05 pm

    ”””found guilty over the first set of charges””’

    hooker said thomson was a polite, softly spoken man that always used a condom and paid with a credit card

    (l heard that on TV from other room)

  67. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 18, 2014 8:18 pm

    I thought it all seems fairly good humoured, but then I’m not terribly sensitive.

  68. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 18, 2014 8:28 pm

    …meanwhile Adrian (who won’t read this because he never looks here) is pining for someone to debate the issues of the day with.

    Adrian is another who prefers to debate with only specifically selected opponents.

  69. TB Queensland permalink
    February 18, 2014 8:41 pm

    I don’t mind debate, ToM … as you know 😉 nor do I mind a bit of banter …
    but we went through all the antagonistic over the top BS years ago … and we know that doesn’t help discussing things and reaching at least some “yeah I take your point” agreement …

    These days its like being in kindy after spending a couple of years in uni … and I don’t play with my “smart” 🙄 phone when I’m bored – I get up and do stuff …

  70. egg permalink
    February 18, 2014 8:42 pm

    ‘In fact, it’s given me pause to think why I even bother…….’

    Its the dynamic of the place and it sometimes gets nasty. If we could just wander down to the kaf and smash the place up, we would, but instead we dissolve into a larrikin gang and beat ourselves up.

    Don’t lose heart, you have a great blog here.

  71. egg permalink
    February 18, 2014 8:44 pm

    ‘I thought it all seems fairly good humoured, but then I’m not terribly sensitive.’

    🙂

  72. TB Queensland permalink
    February 18, 2014 8:45 pm

    In fact, it’s given me pause to think why I even bother…….

    Nah don’t pause, Jummy! Keep movin’ …

    Where are ye noo?

  73. February 18, 2014 8:55 pm

    Back in Melbourne TB.

    Australia’s most sophisticated city… But then you already knew that.

  74. February 18, 2014 8:59 pm

    I so completely agree TB. Been a member of the ALP for 30 plus years..Dont support any team any more just policy so its a desert, They are equally fucked. This left right win lose right wrong lab lib is such an insidious bore. I do know one thing though. This government is out of control. I can stand stpudity, but considering my background calling me a como, is very very insulting…

    TB I had no idea that they were rolling back those reforms, but then again these guys are a laying it o thick and fast and it would seem that their supporters think that anything is just fine.

    Reb this is a good blog…there are lots of good exchange here, these sarcasm just gets a bit like a over the top pissing competition. Unsubstantiated opinion usually triggers that off. Like asserting that your a leftoid, you support Thomson…yeah the R&F of the ALP love him, he divided the party and caused damage to the party and the union movement. Now my friends who devote their lives to the service of others who don’t have a voice cop his fallout.

  75. February 18, 2014 9:02 pm

    Actually Reb I cannot disagree with that… especially for the arts.

  76. February 18, 2014 9:10 pm

    “don’t pause, Jummy! Keep movin’ ”

    Actually that;s my mantra TB…!

    Just keep fkn movin’ cos once you stop that’s it. You’re fucked and you start accepting things for “the way they are”.

    And that’s your road to blind acceptance…

    Maintain the rage agnanst the dying of the light!!

  77. February 18, 2014 9:18 pm

    Rage against the dying of the light….!

  78. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 18, 2014 9:18 pm

    Australia’s most sophisticated city… But then you already knew that.

    Unfortunately I look like having to spend a bit of time in Perth soon, which is Australia’s least sophisticated city (if you exclude Canberra – which doesn’t really qualify as a city)

  79. TB Queensland permalink
    February 18, 2014 9:25 pm

    Australia’s most sophisticated city… But then you already knew that.

    🙄

    And that’s your road to blind acceptance…

    I guess I’m just venting ’cause of my little tête-à-tête at lunch with the friends yesterday the ones we are off to Asia with … I could not believe the … to nick a word … blind ignorance even when told what was happening … I did get a “well Shorten has now dropped behind Abbott in the polls” – like its a fkn football game … who gives a shite … they are both none performers … can’t see beyond the money on their fkn noses …

    … its not about “politics” its still about about power, money and greed but now its so frigging obvious … Hockey is no better than Swan … mumbling and grumbling through press conferences and actually saying nowt …

    Robber Barons’ puppets at play … unions own business – business owns unions and both own our democracy …

    And China owns the world thanks to Wall St greed … again … nothing to do with market/command system rivalry or one party communism versus multi party democracy … assets trump all … just Wall St giving us all the finger … and China biting it off …

  80. February 18, 2014 9:26 pm

    “I look like having to spend a bit of time in Perth soon”

    Oh how we laughed and laughed and laughed…………!

    😆 😆

  81. egg permalink
    February 18, 2014 9:30 pm

    ‘they are both none performers ‘

    Abbott’s doing alright, but Shorten will have to fall on his sword at some point before the next election.

  82. egg permalink
    February 18, 2014 9:39 pm

    ‘China owns the world thanks to Wall St greed’

    Interesting theory, not sure its that simple.

  83. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 18, 2014 9:55 pm

    Oh how we laughed and laughed and laughed…………!

    Thanks! Perth is a hole, it’s full of demented people, those that volunteer to settle there from the east are either nuts to start with, or become so after a few years.

    Perth makes Brisbane seem civilised.

  84. TB Queensland permalink
    February 18, 2014 9:56 pm

    Thanks for you comm , inpu , rebu , reason rep , cryp comme , egg …

    I understand much better now why its not so simple … 🙄

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    “I look like having to spend a bit of time in Perth soon”

    I like Perth … noice city … nobody’s got their head up their arse like Mexican cities … 😆

  85. egg permalink
    February 18, 2014 10:05 pm

    ‘I understand much better now why its not so simple …’

    Do you want a lecture on The End of Empire or Accident of History?

  86. Walrus permalink
    February 18, 2014 10:11 pm

    “You call me a commo,… if you did that to me face to face I would flatten you ……”

    I look forward to you visiting Palm Beach sometime…….LOL

    OK I’ll just call you a Bolshevik

    Is that better……?

    Although Commo is a bit more latter half 20th Century.

    Bolshie is sooooo 1920s

  87. Walrus permalink
    February 18, 2014 10:14 pm

    “Is Ricky the new rock shifter…?”

    Only when he tilts his head

  88. egg permalink
    February 18, 2014 10:20 pm

    End of Empire

    ‘Under current projections, the United States will find itself in second place behind China (already the world’s second largest economy) in economic output around 2026, and behind India by 2050. Similarly, Chinese innovation is on a trajectory toward world leadership in applied science and military technology sometime between 2020 and 2030, just as America’s current supply of brilliant scientists and engineers retires, without adequate replacement by an ill-educated younger generation.’

    Alfred McCoy / Huffpo

  89. Walrus permalink
    February 18, 2014 10:23 pm

    “And China owns the world thanks to Wall St greed … ”

    ROFLMAO

    That’s funny

    And very untrue

  90. Walrus permalink
    February 18, 2014 10:33 pm

    “calling me a como, is very very insulting”

    Perhaps you should refrain from participation in political blogs or at least refrain from opening lines like “Listen all you whitey rightvoide teabagging fucktards…………..”

    Or perhaps inhabit blogs that welcome recipes and poetry

    LOL

  91. February 18, 2014 10:37 pm

    ””””””””I like Perth … noice city … nobody’s got their head up their arse like Mexican cities”””””Ditto,

    west-coast knows how to get things done, beats the east-coast circle-jerk by a mile,

    e.g while the John-W regime poo-pooed wind-farms/alternate-energy/desal, the west-coast `built` their desal, right next to a coal-station,

    phase-2, build solar/wind-farm at desal site, remove coal-station,

    didn`t hear much about it from teh-east-coast teabag-media tho, did`ya

  92. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 19, 2014 1:00 am

    finally it is resolved, is anyone surprised? the wheels of justice may run creakily and slowly, but get there in the end. How many charges did they get him on? I thought there were about 157 or something.

    paying for prostitutes was always a headline to get the public full of moral outrage. Tell me, how is thommo’s crime of fraud any different to pollies fraudulent misuse of ‘entitlements’ where the taxpayer pays for their personal expenses like weddings of friends, gifts to others, holidays and airfares for personal busines, and personal sporting/charity endeavours? The nature of the expense makes no difference to me, it’s all immoral.

    thomson would’ve been long gone if it wasn’t a minority govt. I feel quite sure if it was abbott & co were in the same position, they would do exactly the same. Look how howard quickly lowered the bar on his ministers code of conduct when so many of them could not meet the conduct required. IMO, with all of his past misdeeds and possible crimes, TA Abbott also fails the character test, but look where he is now, you guys accepted his ‘wiping the slate clean’ without even a sideways glance. Now we have asylum seekers [remember they have committed no crimes] being killed while imprisoned under abbott’s orders. Isn’t there a RC into roof insulation deaths due to govt policy? certainly puts the “we’re only concerned about safety and deaths at sea” hypocrisy into perspective.

    “Just because jackson didn’t use the money she stole from members for prostitutes doesn’t make her any less guilty or more moral in my eyes”

    And I still feel the same, see walrus’ comment above, jackson is no ‘whistleblower’, she is still guilty of misappropriating members money. Do you think the members were happy that she paid lawler’s sons, took large cash withdrawals and skiing trips outside of already generous wages and conditions? Perhaps the whistleblower nonsense came up when she and lawler were pillowtalking, as a way to get thomsen but gain protection/immunity for herself. lawler has had to leave the state after bringing the FWA into disrepute.

    I swear sb files every comment that I [and some others] make away for use at a later date. that’s twice in two days he’s quoted previous comments I’ve made. I have a good memory, you know, but just for the record, I still stand by everything I’ve said, so no need to pour over every past comment to find what you think is a gloatworthy item. I don’t take it all so personally myself, that I would even bother, but each to his own!
    IIRC, no-one defended thomsen as an innocent person, we always said if guilty, he deserves whatever he gets, but wait until proven guilty and all the facts are known.

    pretty distasteful saga all round really.

  93. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 19, 2014 1:14 am

    The laberals are both the same, corrupt and corrupting. Every few years they get a turnabout for the power, glory and the gravy train. It is the public who is being defrauded.

  94. Jherek Jagged permalink
    February 19, 2014 8:03 am

    Tell me, how is thommo’s crime of fraud any different to pollies fraudulent misuse of ‘entitlements’

    One is illegal, the other only becomes illegal if the pollie doesn’t pay it. It appears that, in both cases, oversights can happen, it is dependent on what the individual does when these oversights are discovered.

    If nothing is done, or denial, then, morally, to me, they are akin.

    she is still guilty of misappropriating members money.

    Yes, and to far above Thomsons rate as well. Guess she chose the right side to cover her arse. That doesn’t condone what Thomson has done. His initial crime, and worse, his subsequent lies to voters and those who work hard in the Labor party who he has now tarnished irrevocably, are unconscionable. He has personally damaged the Labor party and given the Liberals all the ammunition they need for another three years of union bashing and a much better chance of now retaining Government, even if they are this abominable for the next three years.

    The question is, what is Labor doing to make sure this doesn’t occur again?.

  95. Walrus permalink
    February 19, 2014 8:54 am

    “Yes, and to far above Thomsons rate as well. Guess she chose the right side to cover her arse. ”

    What Crap !

    A complaint against her has already ben made and the Police have already investigated and found that all the funds withdrawn were accounted for.

    Meaning she was specifically entitled (per her generous package) to $X and took it or she had receipts for all the monies she took.

    Withdrawing cash as I pointed out above it completely out of order in private industry ( the only exceptions being when its the owner/100% shareholder).

    However it sems acceptable in the Union movement which is another reason why they need governance changes plus a RC.

    And for someone who will need to go before the RC she seeems pretty damn relaxed about it………………….Oh I forgot……….in exchange for evidence against Bill ShortTerm……………she’s already cut a deal to become the next ambassador to Paris or something fucking well “out there”

  96. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 19, 2014 8:55 am

    “I swear sb files every comment that I [and some others] make away for use at a later date. that’s twice in two days he’s quoted previous comments I’ve made. I have a good memory, you know, but just for the record, I still stand by everything I’ve said, so no need to pour over every past comment to find what you think is a gloatworthy item. “

    I generally have a bad memory for this stuff. However, your defence of protesters assaulting innocent citizens is fairly well seared on my brain. It is not gloatworty it is utterly sickening. And it is entirely appropriate to point out that this is the same thinking totalitarians of all stripes, from Brownshirts to the Red Brigades, use to justify their actions. That sort of thinking has no place in civilised society. Decent people will not stay silent when violent thugs try to impose their will on ordinary citizens.

    The whole point of democracy is that we settle things at the ballot box.

  97. Jherek Jagged permalink
    February 19, 2014 9:22 am

    and found that all the funds withdrawn were accounted for.

    I’m not sure they were that precise. They said there was no evidence of wrong doing.

    Kind of like the first few investigations into Thomson.

  98. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 19, 2014 9:38 am

    A few points AO –

    ”thomson would’ve been long gone if it wasn’t a minority govt. I feel quite sure if it was abbott & co were in the same position, they would do exactly the same.

    I agree with that. I think Abbott would probably have behaved in a similar way, I think he would have proved to be expedient, but the point is that it was Gillard who-

    • Knifed Rudd when he had the ALP in a winning position
    • Made a written agreement with Wilkie and broke it
    • Expressed her complete confidence in a crook

    Abbott may have been equally, or more, expedient but he didn’t get the chance to demonstrate this following the 2010 election.

    ”Now we have asylum seekers [remember they have committed no crimes] being killed while imprisoned under abbott’s orders. Isn’t there a RC into roof insulation deaths due to govt policy? certainly puts the “we’re only concerned about safety and deaths at sea” hypocrisy into perspective.

    That seems reasonable too.

    The protests/riots by people in a desperate situation are entirely predictable, and controllable, just as the outcomes from the home insulation debacle were.

    Riots and violent protests can have tragic outcomes, and the government has to accept its share of the blame.

    ” lawler has had to leave the state after bringing the FWA into disrepute.

    I think Lawler was on approved (annual or long service?) leave. I’m not sure that any ‘disrepute” came into his nonattendance at a hearing. His absence was approved by the FWA President.

    Lawler is well regarded for his exceptional intelligence and huge range of capabilities and there is no widespread view beyond Wicks and the like that he’s done anything beyond exercising some indiscrete judgment.

  99. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 19, 2014 9:53 am

    “Now we have asylum seekers [remember they have committed no crimes] being killed while imprisoned under abbott’s orders. “

    Pretty low comment. This was a problem handed to Abbott. There was only one asylum seeker in detention on Manus Island in 2007.

    And how come all the sudden interest in one death. I guess it may be because he was killed rather than committing suicide but the results is the same.

    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3928324.html

    Seven people have died in our detention centres in 18 months, thousands are now deeply depressed and considering suicide as the only way out of their pain and misery.”

  100. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 19, 2014 9:55 am

    ToM, what you are seeing with this vendetta against Lawler and Jackson is the usual Unionland reaction to people with enough guts to expose the corruption within. They are persecuted, vilified and hounded. Utterly disgusting.

    It is hilarious that the same people who wanted to give Thomson the benefit of every doubt when he told one outlandish and unbelievable lie after another are ready to call Jackson guilty long before any trial and even after the Police have said she has no case to answer.

  101. Jherek Jagged permalink
    February 19, 2014 10:13 am

    And how come all the sudden interest in one death.

    Pretty low comment.

  102. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 19, 2014 10:15 am

    Yes, the vendetta mentality runs deep in unions, punishment & get square is a key motivator in their behaviour, “make them pay” is their motto.

    Jackson has been investigated and cleared of any criminal behaviour, but in any event she wasn’t in parliament and therefor her behaviour isn’t of such public interest. The only reason she is of any interest is because she assisted to show the criminality of Thompson, and the ALP/unions just won’t tolerate that.

  103. February 19, 2014 10:24 am

    “It is hilarious that the same people who wanted to give Thomson the benefit of every doubt when he told one outlandish and unbelievable lie after another are ready to call Jackson guilty long before any trial and even after the Police have said she has no case to answer.”

    Good point!

  104. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 19, 2014 10:36 am

    Pretty low comment.”

    No it is the truth. ALP supporters are only interested in deaths in camps when the Coalition is in power.

    Same goes for deaths at sea. We have 334 poles for each SIEVX death but no memorials for the 1,000 -2,000 people who drowned under Rudd/Gillard.

  105. Jherek Jagged permalink
    February 19, 2014 10:46 am

    Good point!

    True. Of course, it works both ways

  106. Jherek Jagged permalink
    February 19, 2014 10:50 am

    ALP supporters are only interested in deaths in camps when the Coalition is in power.

    That is a pretty disgusting remark in itself. I was horrified at the deaths occurring under Labors watch. I would have seen anything for it to stop. It hasn’t, and remains horrifying. What is worse now is that deaths are occurring that reflect immediately on policies and actions implemented by the Government. You cannot blame people trying to get here on any local Government policy, the fact that people want to get her is outside of our control, which is why we need to work with regional partners.

  107. TB Queensland permalink
    February 19, 2014 11:14 am

    And it is entirely appropriate to point out that this is the same thinking totalitarians of all stripes, from Brownshirts to the Red Brigades, use to justify their actions.

    Give it a fkn rest for CHRIST’s sake …

    Yes, the vendetta mentality runs deep in unions, punishment & get square is a key motivator in their behaviour, “make them pay” is their motto.

    Reading the comment above it runs deep in many minds …

    ALP supporters are only interested in deaths in camps when the Coalition is in power

    These comment are distasteful to say the least … could I suggest that no-one here takes the death of anyone anywhere lightly … one death of a person in the cudtody of OUR country is simply wrong …

  108. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 19, 2014 11:36 am

    “Give it a fkn rest for CHRIST’s sake …”

    You raised the issue of whether my terminology was appropriate. When I reply you want me to shut-up?

    Needless to say you didn’t actually answer the question I asked you.

  109. Walrus permalink
    February 19, 2014 11:39 am

    “I feel a bit of empathy for the German Jews in 1937-38 … what are they doing to my beautiful country….”

    — TB

    “And it is entirely appropriate to point out that this is the same thinking totalitarians of all stripes, from Brownshirts to the Red Brigades, use to justify their actions.”

    Give it a fkn rest for CHRIST’s sake … – TB

    Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……………………………you were saying……….. LOL

  110. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 19, 2014 11:50 am

    The whole point of democracy is that we settle things at the ballot box.

    Only the truly gullible would believe that the elections we have represent a democracy. I haven’t noticed a democratic choice of candidates at the branches, both parties have that all rigged and the voters are given their choice, not ours.

    There is no open and transparent information about the political, religious, business and community affiliations that the representatives have. How does a CEO of a junk food lobby get to take down a public interest food site?

    The voting system of preferences manages to work in the favour of the two major players who then take turns in the gravy train. Libs love a preferential system because they would hardly ever get in without it, how else can you win an election with a lesser primary vote than your opponents?

    We now have a ‘preference whisperer’ to instruct ‘parties’ in how to get into the senate, these parties pretend to be sports and fishing parties who stand to serve the interests of billionionaires.

    The lobbying industry has distorted any democracy and governments are beholden to them and their wealthy donors. Party unity also distorts democracy by having members vote according to the wishes of the party and not the electorate.

    …and so on

    let’s not pretend it’s a democracy for the people to decide.

  111. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 19, 2014 12:05 pm

    sb I’d like to remind you that protest is also a legitimate function of a democracy, in fact concerned citizens have a duty to protest unjust laws and government policy. How else do the out of touch, corrupt, powermongers know how the people [that they supposedly represent] feel?

  112. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 19, 2014 12:10 pm

    Democracy is the worst system .. except for all of the others. It is certainly a lot better than in the situation in the Syria.

    Our system works pretty well at the moment, at least as well as any other that that has been tried.

    True, the Gillard government showed the problems arising with minor parties exerting too much influence, and there is always the background stench of Unionland corruption, the abuse of power by politicians of all parties and the total schemozzle that is proportional representation in Tasmania. But it is still better than letting an activist minority exert disproportionate power, especially where they are prepared to use violence to intimidate other citizens.

    Most Australians do not want to change our system drastically although they do expect better behaviour from their politicians and less thuggery, extortion and corruption from the Unionland sector.

  113. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 19, 2014 12:12 pm

    Howard Zinn — ‘Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience’.

  114. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 19, 2014 12:13 pm

    “sb I’d like to remind you that protest is also a legitimate function of a democracy, in fact concerned citizens have a duty to protest unjust laws and government policy. “

    You don’t need to remind me of that, I strongly support the right of protesters to demonstrate – peacefully. But you could remind why protesters should not be condemned for assaulting people they disagree with. I’ve never been able to grasp that.

  115. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 19, 2014 12:14 pm

    Again, I’m talking about uncivil disobedience.

    Not that I’d take much notice of a stupid moral cretin like Zinn.

  116. Meta permalink
    February 19, 2014 12:50 pm

    (It’s very simple. The Archon (aka Leviathan) can have its monopoly-on-the-use-of-force head cut off; governments should be a little afraid of their people. And that goes double for whenever overt, covert, or latent violence is being inflicted on a people, or significant parts of it; the social contract is become at a natural end, for breach of good faith. Or, something like that.)

  117. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 19, 2014 1:09 pm

    I agree meta

    But you could remind why protesters should not be condemned for assaulting people they disagree with.

    Perhaps they are the ones affected by the policies and dirty deals done between government and wealthy interests. Perhaps there is provocation.

    Do you mean police? The state force who should be protecting citizens, using violence against them, instead protecting the interests of private wealth?

    I don’t think protesters go around assaulting people they disagree with at all, the assaults are usually against them.

    I know you had a bee in your bonnet about the immoral fraudster geoff shaw, isn’t he another who should be in jail, not parliament?

    Have a good read here about the ‘non-violent’ history of geoff shaw 🙄

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Shaw_(politician)

    geoff shaw is a grub who appears to me to give as good as he gets, pushing and shoving elderly protesters and then hiding behind parliamentary privilege and protection. Why do these ugly, immoral and unethical people get to hold a balance of power, how do they ever get into a position of power? it is through the actions of the political party that he is foisted upon us. This man’s aim is to control the fertility choices of one half of the population? One person trying to exert influence over the bodies of half the population of victoria for a minority of godbothering religious activists. Now that’s undemocratic.

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/mp-geoff-shaw-harassed-before-clash-at-state-parliament-new-video-shows/story-fni0fee2-1226740581579

  118. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 19, 2014 1:19 pm

    just out of interest, I hope these articles haven’t gone unnoticed

    Bumper profits but sounds of silence in Canberra:

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/bumper-profits-but-sounds-of-silence-in-canberra-20140218-32xoy.html#ixzz2tjLIHLS4

    Combine the higher profits with that forecast and you have the best economic news in nine months – but our Treasurer and Finance Minister remain strangely silent about it.
    It doesn’t fit their budget preparation narrative.

    Coalition lied about true cost of NBN: Jason Clare:
    http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/government-it/coalition-lied-about-true-cost-of-nbn-jason-clare-20140218-hvcvh.html

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-12/braue-the-inconvenient-truth-for-the-coalition-nbn/5152800

  119. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 19, 2014 2:00 pm

    “I don’t think protesters go around assaulting people they disagree with at all”

    That is a blessed relief. You know as well as I do that this discussion goes back to your refusal to condemn the protesters who assaulted people going to hear Geert Wilders speak. I’m glad you now understand that those protesters had no right to intimidate and manhandle the attendees.

    There is a clear balance between the right to protest and the rights of other people to go about their business unmolested by activist cranks and ratbags.

    “governments should be a little afraid of their people”

    So say the supporters of 2nd amendment rights.

    “And that goes double for whenever overt, covert, or latent violence is being inflicted on a people, or significant parts of it; the social contract is become at a natural end, for breach of good faith. Or, something like that.”

    Sounds like I’d need a degree in Marxist sociology to even begin to understand what is meant by “covert or latent violence”. In the past justifications of revolutionary violence were usually based on”false consciousness” which is how idiots explained the fact that the vast majority of people didn’t agree with them.

    Most revolutions lead to tyranny and mass murder. In a society such as ours the forces of thuggery need to be put down hard. I have no problem with moral exhibitionists strutting about screaming their little lungs out. It’s the violence I don’t like.

  120. February 19, 2014 3:04 pm

    “Pretty low comment.”

    No it is the truth. ALP supporters are only interested in deaths in camps when the Coalition is in power./blockquote>

    It most certainly is. in addition to being immoral, a lie and highly offensive

    <“You call me a commo,… if you did that to me face to face I would flatten you ……”
    I look forward to you visiting Palm Beach sometime…….LOL
    OK I’ll just call you a Bolshevik Is that better……?

    Sure, if you have the balls give me your address I will deliver it personally….I guarantee you wont be LOL

    “Give it a fkn rest for CHRIST’s sake …”
    You raised the issue of whether my terminology was appropriate. When I reply you want me to shut-up?
    Needless to say you didn’t actually answer the question I asked you.

    Oh the Irony… TB these genius’s that call me a Commo (deeply offensive as members of my family were murdered by commo’s) dribbling out this inane matra of commo , dictator…infinitum…stick up for Murdoch and Morrison?

    This is a wannabe totalitarian… what a grub…
    http://archiearchive.wordpress.com/2013/12/19/the-public-life-of-scott-morrison/

  121. Walrus permalink
    February 19, 2014 4:33 pm

    “Sure, if you have the balls give me your address I will deliver it personally….I guarantee you wont be LOL”

    By the way Fuckwit you dont scare me at all. And I’m not in the habit of giving out my address to total losing cunts like you who like to dish out plenty of names but threaten violence when its served back to them

    AND since when have threats of physical violence been allowed on this Site ?

    Many castigated scaper for the exact same but the silence now is rather deafening when it comes from the Extreme Left

  122. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 19, 2014 5:00 pm

    Bed Pann, what is going on here? You throw insults around with abandon and then complain when someone insults you.

    There are a lot of bad propositions made here – it is perfectly acceptable to criticise the proposition, even in a colourful way.

    It is also seems to be acceptable to directly insult public figures.

    I try not to insult other commenters directly, but every now and then I fail on this score, particularly when I’m responding to insults.

    Too many insults and too much bitterness makes this place unpleasant. It doesn’t hurt to show a bit of respect to other posters even if you fundamentally disagree with them.

    Jiggy Jherk is a good example – he makes a lot of good points and lands a lot of telling blows without resorting to pure insults.

    I’m concerned that reb will start to wonder why this has become a bitter and unpleasant place and close the blog down. Then everyone loses.

  123. Walrus permalink
    February 19, 2014 5:08 pm

    “Bed Pann, what is going on here?”

    Exactly Splatter

    Put rather bluntly……………we all got along reasonably fine until the total fuckwit that is Pann arrived on the scene

  124. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 19, 2014 5:11 pm

    I quite like Ricky – he’s good value.

  125. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 19, 2014 5:12 pm

    “Coalition wants Labor support for probe into MP’s parliamentary statement regarding prostitutes”

    Now this is getting over the top. Thomson will be sentenced for his criminal behaviour and still faces civil action by the HSU and FWA. Is there really any benefit in having a parliamentary probe? Maybe Parliament needs to be vindicated?

  126. Walrus permalink
    February 19, 2014 5:19 pm

    “Maybe Parliament needs to be vindicated?”

    Or maybe Bill Short-Term needs to take a revised position on Thomson. The Parliament can jail or fine Thomson should the Court fail to do so. And since he’s by admission almost bankrupt fines would be of no use. So jail time could be an option.

  127. Walrus permalink
    February 19, 2014 5:22 pm

    Short-Term’s position will look even more ridiculous if he attempts to block an enquiry.

  128. February 19, 2014 6:01 pm

    The political damage is already done.

    The government beating the dead horse further is just blatant politically expedient overkill.

  129. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 19, 2014 6:06 pm

    I think so, TBoss.

  130. February 19, 2014 6:12 pm

    “Many castigated scaper ”

    As I understand it, he actually fronted TB’s residence. A little more than empty bravado & ill advised interweb threats, imo.

    In my case, the thick emotionally unstable dickhead attempted to post recognisable residential details; he was incorrect. The fact that he would even bother said more about the unhinged exaggerating fool’s mental state than any amount of his angry rants. At no stage did I take his childish tantrums as a credible threat.

    Obviously, it should go without saying that carrying blog enmities into real world confrontations is contemptible.

    My principles are consistent.

  131. February 19, 2014 6:12 pm

    It appears my services are required again.

    Threats of physical violence are not going to be tolerated on this site.

    Ricky – consider yourself warned.

    As a highly sought-after entertainer, I don’t have the time nor inclination to sit here and moderate comments all day, so the next step will just be to ban you.

    Take this as a first and last warning.

  132. Walrus permalink
    February 19, 2014 6:12 pm

    “The political damage is already done.”

    With plenty more to come. It goes with the narrative of “why is Bill Short-Term so resistant to an RC if he also tries to block a convicted criminal from an enquiry.”

    “Is Bill Short-Term just completely soft on criminal activity even when there is a conviction ?”

    Blah……….blah…………..blah………!

  133. February 19, 2014 6:15 pm

    Yep and there in lies my point… Banter is fine, got no problem with banter.. However when I tell someone I am grossly offended because members of my family were butchered by communists….and they make light and keep it up, just like that bearded droid did then work it out for yourself..

    You wouldn’t say that without the anonymity of a avatar…

    Notice how splatter uses the typical troll tactic of “oh we were fine till he came along” which is pretty much how right wing divisive’s work…

    What you are both all swollen and puffy about is I don’t support Thomson or the ALP’s position on asylum seekers…So you’re both all confused as your standard worn out go to one size fits all mantra stupidity don’t work…

    Get over yourselves, put ya bunched up panties back in your purses; you’re both sooks…That whole…anyone who doesn’t agree with me and doesn’t circle jerk to the broken record of fiberals greatest hits is leftoid, communist or wrong is quite droll. 🙄

  134. February 19, 2014 6:26 pm

    Ricky – you’re not shy in dishing out insults at others on this forum, so it’s a bit rich to get all offended when you cop some in return.

    Nevertheless, it is the issue of making threats of violence that is the issue and as I mentioned, such threats won’t be tolerated here.

    And as I have indicated, I can’t be fucked monitoring and moderating comments, so banning those who continue to make threats is the only option.

  135. February 19, 2014 6:41 pm

    In my humble opinion, this should be respected at all costs…

    “I’m concerned that reb will start to wonder why this has become a bitter and unpleasant place and close the blog down. Then everyone loses.”

    It is easy to forget the liberty afforded here, something which is at no cost to participants but which has surely strained the good nature & tolerance of the host over many years now.
    It shouldn’t be taken for granted & would be sorely missed by those who recognise it, if lost.

    The alternatives are fake, partisan, boring & non-viable (for me, at least).

  136. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 19, 2014 7:30 pm

    Yes, this blog is unique-

    • Exchanges are (usually) orderly, informed and intelligent
    • Humour is rife
    • Ridicule is sharp
    • Self deprecation and boasting are posted in equal measure
    • Everyone is welcome (well… almost everyone)

    This is a site appreciated by many, so perhaps we should make it a little easier for the owner to run.

  137. February 19, 2014 7:36 pm

    Yeah i’m gonna seek Walrus out and have a hit done on him over a blog 🙄

    These are the guys who are first to castigate Cafe whispers, yet they are a mirror? Offended? well when someone calls you a leftoid or a fuckwit, whatever…big deal.

    Commo? Sorry that has the same implication of severity as kiddy fiddler to me. I can see why Splatter likes Timmy so much…

  138. February 19, 2014 7:51 pm

    Ricky – a blogger on this forum has threatened violence against another poster on this forum and physically appeared at his/her place of residence.

    I can appreciate that you m ay not be aware of this, but it has happened .

    So this is why any threats of violence won’t be tolerated in the future..

  139. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 19, 2014 7:57 pm

    Well Ricky, I quite enjoy your robust manner of expression, but it is all a little like a rowdy bar (as AO once observed).

    That means – “no thongs or singlets”

  140. February 19, 2014 8:05 pm

    Someone actually did that? they didn’t turn up in a Noddy car did they? I have not intention nor desire to do anything of the kind. I’m sorry I offended Walrus, the delicate little flower pretty safe as I would not touch you with a barge pole. I wont apologise for being offended by being called a Commo, which quite frankly is ridiculous.

    I strongly recommend this doco on Iview “Tall hot blonde” .its amazing

    http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/view/81351195

  141. TB Queensland permalink
    February 19, 2014 8:09 pm

    It is easy to forget the liberty afforded here, something which is at no cost to participants but which has surely strained the good nature & tolerance of the host over many years now.
    It shouldn’t be taken for granted & would be sorely missed by those who recognise it, if lost.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    This is a site appreciated by many, so perhaps we should make it a little easier for the owner to run.

    Hear! Hear!

  142. Tony of South Yarra permalink
    February 19, 2014 8:10 pm

    “Ricky – a blogger on this forum has threatened violence against another poster on this forum and physically appeared at his/her place of residence. ”

    TB may and will correct me if I’m wrong, but, if memory serves, Scaper “appeared” at his place after he was invited there. At that point, Scaper hadn’t gone through his Damascene conversion of leftoid to wingnut.

  143. TB Queensland permalink
    February 19, 2014 8:21 pm

    And in passing …

    “I feel a bit of empathy for the German Jews in 1937-38 … what are they doing to my beautiful country….”

    – TB

    “And it is entirely appropriate to point out that this is the same thinking totalitarians of all stripes, from Brownshirts to the Red Brigades, use to justify their actions.”

    Give it a fkn rest for CHRIST’s sake … – TB

    Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……………………………you were saying……….. LOL

    Big difference, Wally – a one off remark aimed at living in Queensland and disagreeing with Noddy Newman & The Nitwits – doctors are about to walk out of hospitals and they are now campaigning in Redcliffe againts the government – an unprecedented move by medicos …

    And variations on … the same thinking totalitarians of all stripes, from Brownshirts to the Red Brigades, use to justify their actions. … more than once or twice daily in an attempt (although it seems to have worked) to anger and distract other commenters from criticising the disastrous management of our country and my state …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It seems now that the RAN “miscalculated” six times the position of navy vessels in regard to the Indonesian border … so I expect at least one reprimand and a possible discharge of senior officers commanding our RAN ships … you can’t have it bothe ways … either thr RAN was ordered to breach the Indonesian border OR the RAN made a “mistake” in navigation and should suffer the consequences of gross negligence …

    Someone is lying …

  144. TB Queensland permalink
    February 19, 2014 8:27 pm

    TB may and will correct me if I’m wrong

    No I won’t, ToSY … it was the threats (and personal info) that was posted later that was not only offensive but dangerous to my family … I’m sure you remember that aspect of it?

    You may also remember that I took it seriously enough to contact the Australian Federal Police …

    I also confess to an ignorance of the blogworld at that stage … although most of my career details are readily available here …

    I still have the rock shifters email address if you want to contact him and verify details…?

    Other than that … for my family’s sake I’d like to drop the subject. 🙂

  145. TB Queensland permalink
    February 19, 2014 8:29 pm

    BTW, ToSY … thanks for pointing out that I was “the blogger” …

    I obviously overestimated your integrity … 🙄

  146. February 19, 2014 8:44 pm

    ”””’Bumper profits but sounds of silence in Canberra:
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/bumper-profits-but-sounds-of-silence-in-canberra-20140218-32xoy.html#ixzz2tjLIHLS4
    ”””””””””””””

    armchair, l`m not sure pascoe is talking about the same thing mr-eleventy is talking about,

    teh `fortune-500`s and asx`top-200` etc, are measuring `monster`corporations, not mom+pop-biz which `may` be what mr-eleventy is banging on about, (as he often has),

    this could be crap from pascoe

  147. February 19, 2014 8:57 pm

    You’re welcome, TB. Just correcting the record, btw. Nobody else here, including you, was inclined to.

  148. Tony permalink
    February 19, 2014 9:06 pm

    Ricky Pann (If that’s even his real name) adds colour and movement. It’s just that rebutting aspersions – from anyone – distracts from the threaded argument.

  149. TB Queensland permalink
    February 19, 2014 9:07 pm

    You’re welcome, TB. Just correcting the record, btw. Nobody else here, including you, was inclined to.

    Maybe I didn’t want to go down that path … I have others to consider that I care about … and maybe you don’t know everything …

    sreb, obviously recognised that ….

    Now please leave it alone …

  150. Tony permalink
    February 19, 2014 9:08 pm

    “this could be crap from pascoe”

    Correct.

  151. February 19, 2014 9:10 pm

    ”””’let’s not pretend it’s a democracy for the people to decide.”””’

    agree 100% archair, (great rant) 🙂 🙂 🙂

  152. TB Queensland permalink
    February 19, 2014 9:12 pm

    It’s just that rebutting aspersions – from anyone – distracts from the threaded argument.

    Agreed, ToSY, something that the regulars here had recognised and reduced … the change in group dynamics brought the storming phase back – let’s hope we reach the norming stage soon …

    I enjoyed our brief performing era …

    As Ser T and ToM pointed out let’s not encourage an early adjourning … 😉

  153. February 19, 2014 9:15 pm

    what`s your take on the pascoe post scales`osy, it`s not like you to agree with me 🙂

  154. Tony permalink
    February 19, 2014 9:19 pm

    ”””’let’s not pretend it’s a democracy for the people to decide.”””

    You people speak about democracy like it’s a good thing. 😯

    In any ballot there are winners and losers. The losers might be 49.99% of the electorate. The more things can be left to the individual to decide for themselves, and taken out of the hands of government, the better.

  155. February 19, 2014 9:24 pm

    ””’In any ballot there are winners and losers.””’OKAY
    .
    ”””The losers might be 49.99% of the electorate.””””’

    Nonsense. The Losers and Winners are the same `every` time scales`osy.

    Winners=Top 2% of wealth.

    Losers=The poorer. the more you lose.

  156. Tony permalink
    February 19, 2014 9:27 pm

    Your ideological crap is spilling out of your daiper, T-Bagz.

    😉

  157. Walrus permalink
    February 19, 2014 10:15 pm

    “Commo? Sorry that has the same implication of severity as kiddy fiddler to me.”

    You have a really strange moral code you
    big tough keyboard warrior.

    You really are a fucking loser

    100 metres from Observation Point. Don’t choose the wrong driveway as a almost convicted murderer who now has various firearms offences lives close by.

    You don’t always get to pick the neighbours

  158. Walrus permalink
    February 19, 2014 10:21 pm

    And if you want a face to face robust discussion you better bring a step ladder LOL

  159. February 19, 2014 11:25 pm

    And if you want a face to face robust discussion you better bring a step ladder LOL

    I sure as shit wont get from you , as the point is obviously lost on your feeble one trick mind 🙄

    big tough keyboard warrior.
    You really are a fucking loser

    Why don’t you throw a few Commos’, and Unions in for good measure we never tire of your informative insight and gargantuan intellectual repartee 🙄

  160. Jherek Jagged permalink
    February 20, 2014 10:46 am

    The losers might be 49.99% of the electorate. The more things can be left to the individual to decide for themselves, and taken out of the hands of government, the better.

    Election Now?

  161. Walrus permalink
    February 20, 2014 10:31 pm

    According to the Parliamentary Priveleges Act the Speaker of the Lower House can recommend a vote by the HoR to decide by simple majority whether a current or ex member should be jailed for upto 6 months for an offence under the Act which includes misleading the House.

    Plus get this. There is in accordance with Westminster tradition a small jail cell under our Parliament House.

    Imagine having the current speaker Bronwyn Bishop bring you your meals in a metal tin each night with a big baton and a wink.

    Holy fuck !

  162. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 22, 2014 10:26 am

    It is probably timely to remind readers that magistrate Charlie Rozencwajg found Craig Thomson’s explanation – “an affront to common sense”. It always was.

    In court, Thomson explained that he was allowed to spend union money on prostitutes etc, this followed his explanation in parliament that was entirely contrary to his legal defense. In parliament-
    • I didn’t do it
    • It is a conspiracy by someone I will name
    • I didn’t do it

    His unbelievable explanation was accepted and defended by a range of blog commentators, Miglo and Min for example, who actually banned people who dissented from their version of the truth.

    It’s interesting that they haven’t bothered to provide a single correction, but still vociferously promote their “truth in media” campaign.

    It’s hilarious that they continue to take themselves seriously.

  163. February 22, 2014 11:33 am

    “It’s interesting that they haven’t bothered to provide a single correction, but still vociferously promote their “truth in media” campaign.”

    Well that would be akin to fessing up to their own blind stupidity, and their egos wouldn’t allow that I imagine…

  164. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 22, 2014 11:44 am

    Maybe they think the judge got it wrong.

    I must admit personal belief can make people deluded. I must admit i do not believe the judges position who ruled that the slipper trial was an abuse of process or whatever. I reckon Slipper was guilty but his supporters seem to say it was a conspiracy against Slipper with an ex-Coalition politician involved and the judge agreed.

  165. egg permalink
    February 24, 2014 4:25 pm

    ‘THE Coalition will push the Senate to release thousands of pages of secret documents unearthed during investigations into former Labor MP and convicted union thief Craig Thomson.

    ‘Senior Coalition figures hope the move could expose further detail about webs of union cronyism and corruption, and further wedge Bill Shorten on his obstruction of government efforts to launch inquiries into such activities.’

    Higgins / Oz

  166. egg permalink
    February 25, 2014 9:58 am

    ‘LABOR will not oppose a parliamentary motion apologising for “egregious falsehoods” uttered by convicted former MP Craig Thomson during a now infamous speech proclaiming his innocence.

    ‘The unusual, Liberal-sponsored motion will also apologise to Health Services Union members for Thomson’s spending $267,000 of union funds on electioneering, and for his fraudulent use of union credit cards to purchase sexual services.’

    Owens / Oz

  167. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 25, 2014 10:13 am

    Thompson’s “comprehensive statement” was a deliberate abuse of parliamentary privilege, a shameful act by an MP. His behaviour has hardened a public attitude that politicians are crooks*

    Thompson deserves everything he gets, from the parliament, the judiciary and public opprobrium.

    His mindless supporters are now mute, not a word about retraction of their bizarre convoluted and attempts to excuse his dishonesty, or apologising for abusing anyone who suggested he “had a case to answer”. They also slandered FWA officials, the police and journalists who investigated.

    Some of them comment on “other” sites and apparently still expect to be taken seriously. That is the most amusing part of the saga.

    * (so maybe it did some good after all)

  168. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 25, 2014 10:49 am

    “His mindless supporters are now mute, not a word about retraction of their bizarre convoluted and attempts to excuse his dishonesty, or apologising for abusing anyone who suggested he “had a case to answer”. “

    The most egregious slanders were against the whistle-blowers who outed the fraud of Thomson and Williamson.

    The fact is these crooks may never have been brought to justice but for the efforts of the whistle-blowers. Sadly there were many dumb scum ready attack the whistle-blowers. They were all too ready to fall into line with the cardinal rule of Unionland which is to shut the fuck up whenever you see corruption and to intimidate and persecute anyone who exposes Unionland corruption. There is a shameful history of persecution of those with the fortitude to speak out against Unionland corruption. The retaliation against these people speaks loudly about the entrenched inner rottenness of Unionland culture and its greasy apologists.

    The ALP also owes its members an apology for spending $350k on Thomson’s legals. Most of that would have come from union contributions i.e. dues paid by ordinanry workers. This shameful waste of members’ money would be considered outrageous everywhere but in Unionland.

  169. Walrus permalink
    February 25, 2014 11:06 am

    “The ALP also owes its members an apology for spending $350k on Thomson’s legals.”

    Very good point

    “Thompson’s “comprehensive statement” was a deliberate abuse of parliamentary privilege, a shameful act by an MP. ”

    Absolutely !

    With privilege comes responsibity. This was not a case of an MP making a mistake because of lets say a forged document.

    This was a series of false statement or just plain lies made by a scumbag to whom no one was immune, from being defamed, if they could prove useful to save his own stinking carcass.

    He needs jail time and I think the overwhelming majority demands it if just as payback for him repeatedly treating us like we were idiots easily fooled by his bizarre story and ridiculous excuses.

  170. Meta permalink
    February 25, 2014 11:11 am

    (So, if I understand the sub judice piece aright, we’re now in the ‘green zone’ on the explanatory chart, and should proceed with caution, lest we still run afoul? Which would make waiting to go rank with over-generalizations and speculative extensions beyond the instant case to innominate others, and perhaps not even then, or comments on particularities of process and outcome and ultimate criminaluiy, until after any appeal, the more prudent option? Which is odd, really, since Craig’s team worked hard to have the matter first heard in Mags rather than Sup, and ran an unusual argument, there, in inferior court.)

  171. February 25, 2014 11:23 am

    Sadly there were many dumb scum ready attack the whistle-blowers. They were all too ready to fall into line with the cardinal rule of Unionland which is to shut the fuck up whenever you see corruption and to intimidate and persecute anyone who exposes Unionland corruption.

    Indeed. The geriatric patrons of a certain tea and scones outlet springs to mind.

  172. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 25, 2014 11:28 am

    Whichever way you dice it there was no excuse for the venomous attacks on the whistle-blowers. Unionland has form on this: expose (one of the many) ALP pedophiles, expect retaliation; expose Botany Council corruption – careers destroyed but Brereton promoted; expose AWU corruption, get bashed.

  173. Meta permalink
    February 25, 2014 11:54 am

    (Nope; I am wrong: it’s the ‘blue zone’.

    Still not sure where discussions or assertions of appropriate prospective sentencing fit into the schema, though; or where collateral or coincidental proceedings of Parliament, and apparently prompted by asn still apparently preempting the judicial system’s full course, fit into a broader theory of justice.

    Oh, well. Maybe, it is okay to cross the proton pack streams, like in ‘Ghost Busters’.

    http://www.thenewsmanual.net/Resources/sub_judice_chart_01.html )

  174. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 25, 2014 12:03 pm

    Even as the bitter-enders cling to a faint hope of a successful appeal, their special pleading rings exceedingly hollow. Parliamentary proceedings need not pre-empt the outcome of any appeal. For example they may afford Thomson the opportunity to testify under oath, something he has studiously avoided to date.

  175. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 25, 2014 12:36 pm

    The geriatric patrons of a certain tea and scones outlet springs to mind.

    Various fact free replies to “he has a case to answer”

    • Troll
    • Look at that slut Jackson
    • Troll, Liberal stooge
    • But he has a baby
    • It’s a media beat up
    • Craig is innocent
    • Ban him!

    ..and a couple of my favourites

    • Nassios and Lawler shared an office
    • Nassios and Lawler exchanged favours

    Best of all!

    Bannings
    By popular demand ToM has been banned from further commenting on this blog site.

    Hilarious!

  176. Walrus permalink
    February 25, 2014 12:41 pm

    Bill Short-term must be sooooooooooooooo pleased. LOL

    After calling for Union corruption to be investigated by the Police it looks like George Brandis has succumbed to Shorten’s relentless pressure and agreed……………..LOL

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/police-taskforce-to-work-with-royal-commission-on-union-corruption-george-brandis-to-announce-20140225-33e7v.html

  177. TB Queensland permalink
    February 25, 2014 12:47 pm

    George Brandis has succumbed to Shorten’s relentless pressure and agreed

    Its odd though that the other thieves in society – financial advisers will get open slather at ripping off people’s hard eraned cash …

    http://www.smh.com.au/money/super-and-funds/super-funds-worry-about-possible-changes-to-financial-advice-laws-20140221-337ha.html

    Thieves and cheats everywhere need to be stopped … not just idealogical ones …

  178. February 25, 2014 8:06 pm

    ”””Best of all!””’
    .
    ”””””””’Bannings By popular demand ToM has been banned from further commenting on this blog site.””””””””’
    .
    Still stinging huh, 🙂 Troll`in the same pensioners across several blogs from ya`cubicle, ya`can`t say you were`nt beggin`for that outcome.
    .
    Suck it up Princess 🙂

  179. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 25, 2014 9:31 pm

    Just keeping this on the list-

    https://theguttertrash.com/2014/02/18/craig-thomson-guilty/#comment-46832

  180. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 25, 2014 9:32 pm

    It’s a badge of honour 3.45

  181. egg permalink
    February 26, 2014 8:35 am

    ‘Building union corruption whistleblowers have been threatened and warned not to co-operate with investigations into alleged criminal activity as the federal government prepares to launch a national police taskforce to examine the construction sector.

    ‘Fairfax Media can also reveal that corruption suspects have been meeting to plan their responses to the Abbott government’s royal commission into unions, raising concerns evidence has been destroyed and false stories agreed upon in a bid to stymie investigators.

    ‘Four prominent construction companies in NSW and Victoria have also launched internal investigations after Fairfax Media recently revealed links between their operations, underworld figures and allegedly corrupt officials in the Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/construction-union-whistleblowers-warned-not-to-cooperate-with-corruption-investigators-20140225-33fsw.html#ixzz2uN7iomXz

  182. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 26, 2014 9:22 am

    Typical Unionland politics, egg. And exactly why we need a Royal Commission. The Unionland lackeys, the wannabe gangsters, will be out in force denying everything, distracting attention away from entrenched union corruption and diverting the discussion to coalition failings as though that is an excuse to go easy on the Unionland/organised crime cartel.

  183. egg permalink
    February 26, 2014 10:04 am

    Good to see Fairfax chasing after this, they had three reporters on the job.

  184. Walrus permalink
    March 18, 2014 8:45 am

    The sentencing hearing starts today in Melbourne Magistrates Court

  185. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 18, 2014 9:06 am

    “The sentencing hearing starts today in Melbourne Magistrates Court”

    Nice timing as the ICAC hearings into the Obeid/Sinodinos racket are starting. One grub put away and now on to the next. The more inquiries the better until this rotten culture of corruption and entitlement is utterly destroyed and the crooked bastards are exposed and jailed.

  186. Walrus permalink
    March 18, 2014 9:19 am

    “Nice timing as the ICAC hearings into the Obeid/Sinodinos racket are starting.”

    Yep

    If Sinodinos has done wrong then he should cop it in the eye as well. Although my understanding was that he bailed as soon as he heard Obeid was involved.

    Its going to be interesting to see how Joe Tripodi explains why he altered an official document ……………well I suppose we know why he altered it but the explanation will be a humdinger.

    Gotta give it to Kristina Keneally though. She seems to be the only Premier who actually read what was put in front of her. That’s twice from memory that she has blocked something that the Obeid/Tripodi/Kelly trio have tried to get through her.

    Certainly not just a very pretty face.

  187. March 18, 2014 9:42 am

    Walrus – did u watch Aus Story last night?

  188. Walrus permalink
    March 18, 2014 9:52 am

    No I missed it.

    I read the program guide after 8:30 which is unlike me as I do tend to scan the 8pm to 10:30pm ABC and SBS slots every night much earlier

    I’ve actually met Tara. Hopefully will find it on Catch Up ABC

    I was busy comforting Andrew weeping together over the phone waiting for Tony Jones to give his Sorry Day Speech…………………LOL………………He actually gave a pretty much full blown apology to Bolt

  189. March 18, 2014 9:59 am

    “I’ve actually met Tara.”

    She’s quite an inspiration. I thought of you when I was watching it. Not because you’re “inspirational” (heaven forbid), but because of the work you do in Cambodia…

  190. Walrus permalink
    March 18, 2014 10:18 am

    “…….but because of the work you do in Cambodia…”

    I went 3 times and it was a great experience. Hard work and soooooooooooo fucking hot. Mosquitos the size of which you would’nt believe………they almost block out the sunsets…………….and dont get me started on the damn leeches……………..LOL

    I now prefer to get a few of my business friends together and we send them wads of cash accompanied by my friend’s teenage sons and a few daughters who my friends acknowledge are spoiled boarding school brats who need to see how lucky they are.

  191. March 18, 2014 10:26 am

    “Tis good what you do Walrus (despite what people say about you…) 😉

  192. Walrus permalink
    March 18, 2014 10:33 am

    “”(despite what people say about you…)”

    OMG

    What have they been saying ??????????????????

    LOL

    Its quite nice to be able to throw huge insults back and forth with people like Ricky and TB and then just wake up the next day like nothin’ had happened then onto the next topic.

    Thank you for the blog Reb

  193. March 18, 2014 10:35 am

    You’re welcome Walrus.

  194. March 18, 2014 11:50 am

    Its quite nice to be able to throw huge insults back and forth with people like Ricky and TB and then just wake up the next day like nothin’ had happened then onto the next topic.

    I guess Our skins aren’t as thick as politicians, but bullshit washes off in water especially when its all steam and no piss. 🙂

    You know I should have started up a trough business in the 80’s as there seems to be a big market for em now, Big shortage, the old supply and demand rule of thumb, less troughs than snouts. Seems to be more crowded than an oktoberfest dunny.

    Has anyone been watching Rake? Not a word from either side of politics on a brilliant thinly veiled depiction of NSW politics…

  195. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 18, 2014 12:16 pm

    Ditto about the blog.
    …………………
    So Craig is going to repay the$25,000 that he stole from the HSU, I’d imagine the sincere retraction from CW is being drafted right now!

    http://mobile.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/ex-mp-thomson-to-repay-funds/story-e6frfku9-1226857830667

  196. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 18, 2014 12:30 pm

    “He sought comfort elsewhere,” Mr James said.

    So finally he has admitted his brothel-creeping ways. I take it there won’t be an appeal then.

  197. March 18, 2014 12:36 pm

    Well I’m glad to see this had a “happy ending” 🙂

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